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June 16, 2024 12 mins

Andrew Saville and Guy Heveldt joined Mike Hosking to discuss Super Rugby semi-finals, the Warriors' loss to the Storm, the US Open and the beginning of the European Football Championship 2024.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I have else is with us along with Andrew sevil Felders.
Good morning to you. Enjoying the golf game.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I am very much enjoying the golf. I think Sam
and I were talking about this yesterday or maybe Michael
and I at work. This is the best type of
golf to watch when the best players in the world
are finding it so difficult and they have to use
all their shots that they have to just get any
birdie that they can. I'm really enjoying it. McElroy. I

(00:31):
hope McElroy wins. It's been a decade since he was
any believe that. Well, he's only two behind and Bryson
is in a bit of trouble on the eighth hole,
but Bryson has produced some incredible shots over the last
two days when he's been in trouble, so it's unlikely.
I would say that McElroy is to win. But by

(00:51):
no means out of it.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Do you soak your balls and epsom salts?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
What a what a strange but also fascinating guy. Bryson
to Shamba is if you haven't heard yet, he puts
his balls and it's and salts to check where the
heavy side of the ball is. He reckons that in
a cylindrical object, you're not going to get complete balance
all the way through. So he puts them in its

(01:17):
and salts to find out where the heavy part of
the ball is, and he reckons that's like finding out
where the mud is on the ball. So if it's
I think, if it's heavier, it goes that way, and
he thinks that that's something to do.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
With I'm surprised. I'm surprised. That's not against the rules
in some way, shape or form.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Everything that he does is within the rules. But everything
that he does no one else does. He's got every
club is the same length. You know, most most shorter
irons are a bit shorter than the longer irons obviously,
So you're.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Telling me, is nine irons the same length of his
three iron?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yep? Wacky, yep, They're all exactly the same length.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Why doesn't he win every week?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well, because that's in the head that's in the headset,
which is what I want to talk to you about.
Because I'm watching the NHL yesterday and I'm not watching
a lot of NHL, but the Stanley Cups on Florida
the Edmonton, right, So Florida is up three nil. Same
in the NBA. If you look at the NBA Dallas v. Boston,
Boston's up three nil, Suddenly Dallas win. Not only do
they win when they have to, they blow them out.

(02:25):
They destroy them, not.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Only over the weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, they destroy them. So that's the psychology of sport,
isn't it Your thrash three nil? You're going to lose
in a best of seven, yet all of a sudden bang,
you're so superior to that.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Explain that, yep, yep. Oh, So much of sport of
pat level is in the head. Say it with the
football code, you see it with individual sporting competitors all
across the board. So much of it is in the head,
which leads us, I think to maybe the worry is
if not the Super Rugby which is going to have

(03:00):
a fitting finale next Saturday night at Eden Park?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Well is it is it? I saw the drone shot
of Eden Park. I could count the number of people
there was.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Look that was the Blues, Brumbies and the Aussie teams
just not attract fans here. And it was a Friday
night in Orcus.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Was a Friday night? Is a Friday Look? I was
going to all this and earlier on this morning. Here's
the thing, full crown. Go to Buffalo, go to Chicago,
go to Boston, go to New York, go anywhere you want.
In the middle of winter where it's minus white, five
hundred and fifty seven, it's sold out. This weather slash,
it's on the TV slash. It's a bit tiring. Slash.

(03:40):
I want to go to Costco doesn't count. They actually
turn up because they love this sport.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Excuse what's the answer.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I don't know. I'm just saying rugby. Maybe it's boring
it make it. Somebody text me said to expense so
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I met. Well, there's a there's a lot of
issues going on, but you'd imagine for the final weekend,
Eden Parks should sell out. If they don't sell it out,
there's a major, major issue. It's it's Auckland v Hamilton
Blues versus.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Will that be mainly Hamiltonians though I mean doesn't really
matter how they were.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
There'll be a lot of Whitcatto supporters and from the
surrounds of the Chiefs area.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
I'm sure I regon the Chiefs can boil. I reckon
the Chief's going to win.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think the Chiefs can do it. The Blues very
very good team, are hard to beat at high and
they haven't lost the home for ever but or for
a long time. But the Chiefs have been building and building,
peaking the right standing players. I thought that performance on
Saturday night or Saturday afternoon and Wellington was simply superb.
Hopefully the game isn't ruined by the officiating. Look right,

(04:45):
for Union is just becoming so bloom and hard to officiate.
I understand that, but you're getting You're seeing yellow cards
that aren't yellow cards. You're seeing tackles that should garner
a yellow card and not. It's just all over the show.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Still one shot, guy, What did I just tell you?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
One shot? And Bryson's got a fairly long par part
as well, so it could be all square at the top.
And that's exactly what happens at this course.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
You'd have sympathy with us. Have too expensive to go
to the Rugby cost me thirty bucks for two cans
of beer and a pie. So for you, sev there'll
be six cans three pis ninety dollars. That's a big
night outn't it.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Look Yeah, Look, there's a number of reasons, Mike. You know,
people don't have the same amount of cash to throw
around these days, i'd imagine. But as I say, it's
a big, big final. If you're going to go to
one game of rugby this year.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
One, yeah, and you got you've got to Arguably, I
suppose the Hurricanes will be arguing, but you've got the
two best sides in the competition, which brings us, unfortunately
guy to the Warriors. And so the Warriors start well,
this is all good. I fully expect Melbourne to come
back because they're a quality side. But what I don't
expect if you're a decent Warrior's side who stand a
realistic chance of getting right to the point of end

(05:51):
of the competition, is you get blown away by it.
And that's that's the problem. Making it a fight is
nothing wrong with a fight, but getting thrashed that way
is not acceptable.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It was the same problems that we saw in that
four or whatever game Rus it was when they lost
however many games in a row. Discipline was terrible, defense
wasn't great. They didn't seem to have the right options
or execution on attack, and they had two guys binned
and there were some inconsistency. I think in those biddings.

(06:21):
I think those two for the Warriors were deserved, but
I think the Storm deserved some. That is not why
they lost. They lost because they went away from what
they've been doing very well in the last few weeks
to get them back into the competition, and that's a
massively missed opportunity because that was a chance where they
could finally a beat the Storm after however long it's
been and b get themselves pretty much into the top

(06:43):
four of the NRL. Now they're still in that little
log jam of a lot of teams that are kind
of vine for the back half of the eight.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they still worry me Andrew that as good as
they look against the Panthers or the Dolphins or whatever,
you still know that if things don't go right, it's
still possi Melbourne. If you're a Melbourne fan, you you're
going to win. If you're a Dolphins fan, you're going
to win. You know what I mean. We're just not
that confident yet.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
There'll be the there'll be the odd big win. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I understand totally, But it isn't that why people have
continued to watch the Worries over twenty five years, Mike, because.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
They Yeah, it's the possibility.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
For a couple of weeks, then they lose, Then they
win a game they shouldn't, then they lose a game
they should win. Yeah, that's I think that's part of
the reason. Yeah, the new one keeps coming back.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
We're going to lose the Lesniec though, because that was
reasonably indisputable.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Close for a week, close.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
People is not acceptable anymore, is it.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
But then you can't take players out in the year either,
And that's what the Storm did, was it? I you
can't remember, but Montoya whoever it was, But that wasn't
even And then the way the egan won that wasn't
even penalized. I don't think, or it was certainly.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Wasn't always been shocking. I think they I don't think
they pay them well enough, or train them well enough
or something. I don't know what it is, but the
referring and league has always been problematic, especially the same even.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
You're full of theories too, Michael. So the Worries sell
out pretty much every home direct. They're not winning the competition,
they're not winning every game, but they can. What is it?

Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's the magic. It's the belief it's the belief system.
It's the quality of the game, it's the pace of
the sport, it's the sense of community. To be fair,
it's only twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Thou get that there's in one country. Yeah, but I
think they were wanted to do a very good job
in marketing. I think they also do a very good
job and talking about their game and talking it up.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yep. Also, sorry to interrupt guy before I lose my
train of thought. So we ring last week. We ring
the Blues to do an interview on the show Friday, right,
biggest radio program in the country. Blues don't want to
turn up. We ring the Chiefs, biggest radio program in
the country. The Chiefs don't want to talk, so we
get the Hurricanes guy on at the end of the day.
That's the sort of cockiness or arrogance that's doing damage

(08:52):
to the game. Now, I personally couldn't give a monkeys
you don't want to turn up, I don't care, But
do yourself a favor. If you don't want to talk
about your game, I can ring Cameron George now and
I have them on in twenty minutes. No problems at all,
or a Warriors player or Webster or anyone you want.
And that's the difference. Same with the car racing people.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, I'll put a chat to them. I'll have a
check them.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want to have a chat with them. I'm just saying,
if you can't work that out for yourself, don't become
whining to me.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
But also, as I just said before before, you cut
me off, which was fair. Sorry sorry guy, No, no, no, no,
that's fine.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's just better be good, by the way, because I
interrupted a flow for this. So here we go. Here's
a guy wholt. Ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
You could get a ticket for ten dollars to the
Warriors against the Storm, the best team in the competition
or one of the best teams in the competition. You
could get a ticket in the south stand. Granted so
not the best stand, but for ten bucks that's pretty
good money.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Good point, very good point. It's worth holding onto. Actually
you're following the euros SEV I mean you guys.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Running it as I'm watching it as you speak to me. Actually,
stout England up one Neil over Servia love.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
It a full one mill after how long.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Sixty minutes?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah, sixty minutes for a a single goal. Terrific.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
A lot of action, make a lot of action, stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
That could have happened back and forward.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Made that part as well, Mike.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Who did got the part?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Who did Bryighton?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
De Shambo sa par or Boodie par So? It's still
one off. Yeah, fantastic call it now.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
You know what? Do you know what? Rory soaks his
balls and going good?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Good question, Sef what are you referring to their saf Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
The goal for.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Maybe a pint of guinness. So I'm not too sure.
Northern irishman is he is?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
He carries away, he's he's built. Now have you noticed.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Rory he's not as built as as de Chambo?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Shambo is on steroids. I think I can call that
quite you know, I think I think that'll come out
of the later point, won't it. I'm joking.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I'm not involved in this conversation.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
But you know what I'm saying, Shambo looks abnormal. Actually,
if you want to see a photo of a weird
person who's too old to be doing what he's doing,
have a look at the phone of Gordon Ramsey in
his cycling top.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I saw that bruising and the bruising.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Shock, you know, shocking, shocking accident. But he's one of
those guys who puffs his chest out in a photo
in a way that really he shouldn't anymore because he's
not quite built the way he used to be.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
But when you went you, when you went through your
exercical phase, I'm still still didn't you we.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Like, I'm still in it. I'm still in the phase.
I was in Istanbul over the weekend. Have you ever
done it? Have you ever done a tabata workout? Sev?
I mean it's obviously looking at you you haven't, But
I'm just as in theory.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
It's like the body Crusher of workouts, the one the.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
One I did one of those through Istanbul. So don't
you you know.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Exercises, the body body crusher exercises stopped.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Andrew clearly, I think my subscription ran out. Guy cost
A living.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
You guys next week, Andrew Savile Guy.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
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