March 23, 2025 • 12 mins
Canterbury rugby great Alex "Grizz" Wyllie, who died on the weekend aged 80, is being remembered for his uncompromising nature.
He played 210 games for Canterbury as a loose forward before a storied coaching career with his province and the All Blacks.
Sports journalist Andrew Saville told Mike Hosking on the Commentary Box that Wyllie loomed large in his formative years, in the good ol' days when players and media actually socialised.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andrew Sevil with us along with Jason Pine Morning fellas
Andrew how well do you know Gris Wiley.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Had quite a bit to do with him when I
worked in christ Church in my formative years, Mike, as
you would have too, I think around those times like
late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Of course, grew up as you did, grew.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Up idolizing grizz and that Canterbury team that won the
Shield in the early eighties and held on to it
before that that lost to Auckland. He was, you know,
the words legend and greater often thrown around a bit,
but he was a true legend of Canterbury, not only
Canterbury rugby, but the province itself.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I mean, you think of.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Cannaby rugby, you think of Gris Wiley from North Canterbury days,
through to coaching them, through to playing for Canterbury and
the All Blacks, and then and then coaching both Canterbury
and the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Later in life.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A remarkable man, someone who was really larger than life
in rugby and outside of rugby.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Do you know I played Paul with A and Timaru
and they came along to me and they said, you
want to game a pool with gris Wiley and I
said why not? And they said the only thing is
you got to pay doubles and I went what And
they said, you got to play doubles because Grizz doesn't
play singles and I go, I go why not? And
he goes because he doesn't want to lose. So if
(01:21):
he loses you, he blames someone else. You cannot you
can you cannot have the bragging rights that I beat
Griswiley at Paul so we had to play double weird ruling.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I remember, as a young man, when I was still
learning the art and craft of off field.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Play, a couple of.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Social activities where there was no way you were going
to leave early.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
When gris Wiley was there.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You'd often feel that massive beer poor slap you on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The shoulder with another refreshment, and yet there was no
way you would head home early.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it was a great, great storyteller, great yeah, great
great man and obviously a big loss for his family.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Do you know him Jose Cannery news on rugby exactly?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I knew him from watching his All Blacks teams, obviously
from Wellington, not christ Church. I was gutted when Wayne
Smith scythed through and took the shield away from us
in eighty two to start that wonderful run. But the
teams that Griz coached in the late eighties I think
were some of the best all blacks teams we've seen
off the back of that Rugby World Cup when he
took over from Sir Brian Lahure head coach eight eighty nine,
(02:30):
some of the best rugby I've ever seen. And I
think it was a bit of a shame really that
he was forced together with John Hart for the nineteen
ninety one Rugby World Cup. That was never a happy marriage.
But didn't have the opportunity to meet Grizz in a
social setting as sav did very often, and probably quite
a good thing by the sounds of it.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
George Foreman sevspect Grizz that talking to a lot of
his former players yesterday, some of them just too upset
to you know, to talk on camera or talk and media,
which is quite understandable.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All of them said he just had such a huge
impact on their lives. He changed their lives for ever
in that Canterbury team. It's nice and many have gone
on to great things.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's a funny thing. I was still going to Richard
Lie about it earlier this morning, and I was trying
to get across he was one of those I mean,
it's of an era where the public persona was not
who he was. Privately he was nice, but you know
what I mean, it was all gruff and publicly, but
privately it was a bit of that also, but equally
there was more to it than that. I always remember
(03:30):
Lorrie Mains. He used to be miserable in the media,
but privately was very nice. And then when he lost
his job as All Black coach, suddenly it's Lori Mayins
is the nicest guy you've ever met.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And you know, a heart of gold, big softy and
also a lot of people assumed he was just such
a basic rugby coach because of that nice owner. But
from what I found out, used to say he was
very innovative and ahead of his time in fact in
rugby coaching.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Exactly and seventy six George Foreman, Jason two young seventies.
But the grill. I'll never forget the grill, no, or.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The fact that he came back to win the world
heavyweight title at the age of forty five, you know,
knocking out Michael Moore. I mean, we all remember, you know,
the Fraser fight when he knocked him down six times
in the first two rounds to become world champion, rumbling
the jungle of course, goodness me, what a what an
iconic event.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
But then yeah, to then retire but come back at
forty five.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But yeah, the grills and well we talked about Gris
being a big teddy bear off the you know, off
the rugby field.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
That's exactly what George Foreman was.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Anyone I've read or listened to talk about him was
that he was just that way as well, just a
very generous man with his time and his energy. And yeah,
I mean, but he could hit man. He could hit Fraser,
Ali Mora and many others. I think he had seventy
eight knockouts in eighty six fights.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That is some hard punching. Not bad.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You think sad with Lawsons. You're twenty three years old,
got your big break, You've spent the summer in New
Zealand anticipating your big break. Your big break turns to
shite in two weekends, one in Melbourne, one in China,
And as far as I can work out, they'll give
him Japan. But unless he turns it around and something
miraculous happens. He's toast, isn't he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'm just going to ask you how much more time
will they give him?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They'll give him Japan, would they give them more than that?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean, if they see something in Japan. It's not
a sprint weekend, so you get some good practice. And
if they see something in Japan but they didn't see yesterday.
I mean the thing about that, You've got to understand.
He didn't overtake anybody, I mean all the other I mean,
can't you look at the result. The result looks better
than it is. There's no speed there. He can't drive
the car. And unless he learns to do that all
of a sudden, what do you.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Take note of that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I did take note of the end of all times
down the left hand side of the screen last night. Yeah,
he wasn't getting any closer to the guy in front
of him. No, which they brought him in two or
three times, didn't they? For different tires. They keept changing
the tires, changing this and that? Is it a combination
of clearly the top there was an issue with the
tires in China. What about the lack of time and
the car. Yep, he drove racing balls last year, but
(06:06):
very very different car, very very different set up.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But you can't make up for what you haven't got.
They can't go look, you know, go practice for six
weeks and come back and see us that it's too late.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But some of the commentators were saying they should have
had him in an older car, which they're allowed to
absolutely over the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Summer karun Chandock said that, and he's right, he's one
hundred percent right, but that's retrospective. They didn't and he hasn't,
and therefore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You've got the tires, you got the set up, and
also the massive expectation that must surely be that pressure,
that expectation on how must be massive is massive, and it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Gets worse because it's psychological, because it's all confidence. And
he knows he can do it because he did it
at Silverstone at the test, got within two tenths of max,
so he can do it, But you know, do you
believe you can do it? And if you don't believe
you can do it, you won't and if you don't,
you're out. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
How different would his car set up beat over stapends.
I think it would be quite different.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, but yeah, it's the same car though. I mean, yes,
you can stick you nose and a new you know, foil,
and but it's the same car. And so if you
don't like the car, or can't handle the car, or
the car is unpredictable, then that doesn't change it. You
can paint it purple and put a you know, you
can put a banana seat on it if you want.
It's not going to go any different. It's still original,
isn't it. And that's and that's your problem.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
So I think you're right Mike with.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I think you're right with they'll give them Japan, although
there's already talking about Yuki Sonoda being in the seat
for Japan.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I mean that would be very now, that'll be unfair.
That'll be unfair, wouldn't it, wouldn't it. Yeah, So look,
but the pressure on the kid, goodness me, he does.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Need time in the car. It's a hard cut of driver.
It's not a great car. That's the step and could
only finish fourth last night. Look, I just think time
is running out and he doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, And the problem is if they put snodor in
and he can't drive it, and then they'll put hagurin
and he can't. Then what have you achieved? Well, yeah, yeah,
you just boot through a whole lot of drivers for
no particular reason.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's not going to be described as the poison Chellus?
Is it number two to the step?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And what would happen if they put Snoda in the
red ball and then Lee and back into racing balls
and Liam does better than.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, that's the other thing. That's where that was where
it was worth before. If you remember when he was
at racing balls, he's out qualifying people. And you've got
to remember Snoda last night, for all the talk of Sonoda,
he was his car fell apart and he didn't even
you know, didn't get anywhere. So, I mean, it's it's
it's a multi pronged problem. But from our point of view,
patriotic point of view, it's a great sadness that somebody
who promises so much is on the verge unfortunately of
(08:23):
imploding in a fairly sort of global public.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Again, it doesn't it prove the extreme high tech nature
of these card and also the massive global pressure on youngsters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
A couple of those drivers are teenagers. In that field.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, well that fortunately is the other problem Antonelli.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But there and lower there and lower cars.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, well, Antonelli's in a Mercedes. I think the Mercedes
is a good car, and Antonelli's driving it. Well, but
you look at Carlos Science, one of the best drivers
in the world. He's still getting to grips with his
Williams and that's a much easier car to drive than
anything he's driven before. So I mean, you know, he's
got excuses. It's just that the patience factor will run
out unfortunately. Yes, did anyone play the football Jason over
(09:08):
the weekend? I didn't see any.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Of it where no alive got an international break mic.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because there it was that why Chris Wood was here
and we were playing some island nation thinking it was
a big deal and we're going to the World Cup.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Well yeah, the island nation, big Figi of course on
Friday night.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, I mean, come on, I mean this whole thing.
Of course we're going to beat Figi and then we'll
beat New Caledonia and then because there's eight hundred countries
going to the World Cup, of course we're going to
go to the World Cup. That's how it works.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Isn't it, Mike. The path might be different, but the
end reward is the same.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yes, it's an expanded, bloated World Cup of forty eight teams,
but that's not New Zealand's fault. They haven't made the rules,
they've been handed them. Ironically enough, the all Whites of
twenty twenty five probably would have got through the old way.
I think they're as good at football team as I've
seen play for us. Expecting a big crowd there to
night at Eden Park, I'll be amongst the thirty five thousand.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You will, yes, I will be there. I know you
probably won't be, Mike. I hope its tune.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And at some stage are we well let me okay
listen in anticipation of the victory tonight in our trip
for the World Cup, will we as a nation come
to a grinding holt when we draw three times and
think we've done well?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
No, that's see that that is now not sufficient for
this group of players. I think we'll grind too a
halt when New Zealand gets out of the group, gets
into the knockout stages and Chris Wood and Marco Staminich
and many of the others show on a world stage
exactly what they're capable of.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
So you're right, draws aren't any good anymore. I know
you love your draws.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The World Cup next year and these footballers can't win,
can they? If it's one or it's boring game? According
to Hoskin, if it's ten mil.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm hopelessly insistent. Now, sav I need you to get
onto the big story in the sporting world. Are you
do you know of Charlie Gallico. Charlie Gallico, right, Charlie
Gallicos eighty. He is Reggie the Rabbit. So he's a
mascot for the NRL team right now.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Do you know the problem with Reggie the Rabbit. What's
the problem with Reggie the rabbits?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Reggie the Rabbit is on social media having punched a
nine year old. Yeah, so an investigation has been launched.
Reggie the Rabbit went rogue. So I need you to
be onto that tonight.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Please. His own was it his own grand kit? He
would have had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Kids from the from the footage I've looked out this morning,
the kid was giving him a bit of lip and Charlie,
being eighty dressed as Reggie, wasn't having any of it.
So he gave the kid a clip and of course
you can't do that as a mess.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'll look into that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I tell you what I saw yesterday, some wonderful vision
of Grizz right that eighty five game Aorkan Canterbury Lancaster part.
We had a camera on the sideline following Grizz and
he had to make his way through the crab. Remember
they were down about twenty nine half time and he
came on and gave him this rousing half time speech.
He had to wind his way through all these people
who'd gathered on the sideline basis it was out of
control and some and some guy said something to him.
(11:55):
He walked past Grizz, turned and gave him.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
A bit of a slap. This guy then swung a
punch it and.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Hill the days. Nice to see you, guys, Amy Sevil
and Jason Pine.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
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Andrew Sevil with us along with Jason Pine Morning fellas
Andrew how well do you know Gris Wiley.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Had quite a bit to do with him when I
worked in christ Church in my formative years, Mike, as
you would have too, I think around those times like
late eighties, early nineties.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Of course, grew up as you did, grew.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Up idolizing grizz and that Canterbury team that won the
Shield in the early eighties and held on to it
before that that lost to Auckland. He was, you know,
the words legend and greater often thrown around a bit,
but he was a true legend of Canterbury, not only
Canterbury rugby, but the province itself.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I mean, you think of.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Cannaby rugby, you think of Gris Wiley from North Canterbury days,
through to coaching them, through to playing for Canterbury and
the All Blacks, and then and then coaching both Canterbury
and the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Later in life.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A remarkable man, someone who was really larger than life
in rugby and outside of rugby.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Do you know I played Paul with A and Timaru
and they came along to me and they said, you
want to game a pool with gris Wiley and I
said why not? And they said the only thing is
you got to pay doubles and I went what And
they said, you got to play doubles because Grizz doesn't
play singles and I go, I go why not? And
he goes because he doesn't want to lose. So if
(01:21):
he loses you, he blames someone else. You cannot you
can you cannot have the bragging rights that I beat
Griswiley at Paul so we had to play double weird ruling.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I remember, as a young man, when I was still
learning the art and craft of off field.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Play, a couple of.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Social activities where there was no way you were going
to leave early.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
When gris Wiley was there.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You'd often feel that massive beer poor slap you on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The shoulder with another refreshment, and yet there was no
way you would head home early.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
But it was a great, great storyteller, great yeah, great
great man and obviously a big loss for his family.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Do you know him Jose Cannery news on rugby exactly?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I knew him from watching his All Blacks teams, obviously
from Wellington, not christ Church. I was gutted when Wayne
Smith scythed through and took the shield away from us
in eighty two to start that wonderful run. But the
teams that Griz coached in the late eighties I think
were some of the best all blacks teams we've seen
off the back of that Rugby World Cup when he
took over from Sir Brian Lahure head coach eight eighty nine,
(02:30):
some of the best rugby I've ever seen. And I
think it was a bit of a shame really that
he was forced together with John Hart for the nineteen
ninety one Rugby World Cup. That was never a happy marriage.
But didn't have the opportunity to meet Grizz in a
social setting as sav did very often, and probably quite
a good thing by the sounds of it.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
George Foreman sevspect Grizz that talking to a lot of
his former players yesterday, some of them just too upset
to you know, to talk on camera or talk and media,
which is quite understandable.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
All of them said he just had such a huge
impact on their lives. He changed their lives for ever
in that Canterbury team. It's nice and many have gone
on to great things.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's a funny thing. I was still going to Richard
Lie about it earlier this morning, and I was trying
to get across he was one of those I mean,
it's of an era where the public persona was not
who he was. Privately he was nice, but you know
what I mean, it was all gruff and publicly, but
privately it was a bit of that also, but equally
there was more to it than that. I always remember
(03:30):
Lorrie Mains. He used to be miserable in the media,
but privately was very nice. And then when he lost
his job as All Black coach, suddenly it's Lori Mayins
is the nicest guy you've ever met.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And you know, a heart of gold, big softy and
also a lot of people assumed he was just such
a basic rugby coach because of that nice owner. But
from what I found out, used to say he was
very innovative and ahead of his time in fact in
rugby coaching.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Exactly and seventy six George Foreman, Jason two young seventies.
But the grill. I'll never forget the grill, no, or.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The fact that he came back to win the world
heavyweight title at the age of forty five, you know,
knocking out Michael Moore. I mean, we all remember, you know,
the Fraser fight when he knocked him down six times
in the first two rounds to become world champion, rumbling
the jungle of course, goodness me, what a what an
iconic event.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
But then yeah, to then retire but come back at
forty five.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
But yeah, the grills and well we talked about Gris
being a big teddy bear off the you know, off
the rugby field.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
That's exactly what George Foreman was.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Anyone I've read or listened to talk about him was
that he was just that way as well, just a
very generous man with his time and his energy. And yeah,
I mean, but he could hit man. He could hit Fraser,
Ali Mora and many others. I think he had seventy
eight knockouts in eighty six fights.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
That is some hard punching. Not bad.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You think sad with Lawsons. You're twenty three years old,
got your big break, You've spent the summer in New
Zealand anticipating your big break. Your big break turns to
shite in two weekends, one in Melbourne, one in China,
And as far as I can work out, they'll give
him Japan. But unless he turns it around and something
miraculous happens. He's toast, isn't he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'm just going to ask you how much more time
will they give him?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
They'll give him Japan, would they give them more than that?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I mean, if they see something in Japan. It's not
a sprint weekend, so you get some good practice. And
if they see something in Japan but they didn't see yesterday.
I mean the thing about that, You've got to understand.
He didn't overtake anybody, I mean all the other I mean,
can't you look at the result. The result looks better
than it is. There's no speed there. He can't drive
the car. And unless he learns to do that all
of a sudden, what do you.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Take note of that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I did take note of the end of all times
down the left hand side of the screen last night. Yeah,
he wasn't getting any closer to the guy in front
of him. No, which they brought him in two or
three times, didn't they? For different tires. They keept changing
the tires, changing this and that? Is it a combination
of clearly the top there was an issue with the
tires in China. What about the lack of time and
the car. Yep, he drove racing balls last year, but
(06:06):
very very different car, very very different set up.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
But you can't make up for what you haven't got.
They can't go look, you know, go practice for six
weeks and come back and see us that it's too late.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But some of the commentators were saying they should have
had him in an older car, which they're allowed to
absolutely over the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Summer karun Chandock said that, and he's right, he's one
hundred percent right, but that's retrospective. They didn't and he hasn't,
and therefore.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
You've got the tires, you got the set up, and
also the massive expectation that must surely be that pressure,
that expectation on how must be massive is massive, and it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Gets worse because it's psychological, because it's all confidence. And
he knows he can do it because he did it
at Silverstone at the test, got within two tenths of max,
so he can do it, But you know, do you
believe you can do it? And if you don't believe
you can do it, you won't and if you don't,
you're out. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
How different would his car set up beat over stapends.
I think it would be quite different.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, but yeah, it's the same car though. I mean, yes,
you can stick you nose and a new you know, foil,
and but it's the same car. And so if you
don't like the car, or can't handle the car, or
the car is unpredictable, then that doesn't change it. You
can paint it purple and put a you know, you
can put a banana seat on it if you want.
It's not going to go any different. It's still original,
isn't it. And that's and that's your problem.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
So I think you're right Mike with.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I think you're right with they'll give them Japan, although
there's already talking about Yuki Sonoda being in the seat
for Japan.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
I mean that would be very now, that'll be unfair.
That'll be unfair, wouldn't it, wouldn't it. Yeah, So look,
but the pressure on the kid, goodness me, he does.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Need time in the car. It's a hard cut of driver.
It's not a great car. That's the step and could
only finish fourth last night. Look, I just think time
is running out and he doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, And the problem is if they put snodor in
and he can't drive it, and then they'll put hagurin
and he can't. Then what have you achieved? Well, yeah, yeah,
you just boot through a whole lot of drivers for
no particular reason.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's not going to be described as the poison Chellus?
Is it number two to the step?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And what would happen if they put Snoda in the
red ball and then Lee and back into racing balls
and Liam does better than.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, that's the other thing. That's where that was where
it was worth before. If you remember when he was
at racing balls, he's out qualifying people. And you've got
to remember Snoda last night, for all the talk of Sonoda,
he was his car fell apart and he didn't even
you know, didn't get anywhere. So, I mean, it's it's
it's a multi pronged problem. But from our point of view,
patriotic point of view, it's a great sadness that somebody
who promises so much is on the verge unfortunately of
(08:23):
imploding in a fairly sort of global public.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Again, it doesn't it prove the extreme high tech nature
of these card and also the massive global pressure on youngsters.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
A couple of those drivers are teenagers. In that field.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, well that fortunately is the other problem Antonelli.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
But there and lower there and lower cars.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Well, well, Antonelli's in a Mercedes. I think the Mercedes
is a good car, and Antonelli's driving it. Well, but
you look at Carlos Science, one of the best drivers
in the world. He's still getting to grips with his
Williams and that's a much easier car to drive than
anything he's driven before. So I mean, you know, he's
got excuses. It's just that the patience factor will run
out unfortunately. Yes, did anyone play the football Jason over
(09:08):
the weekend? I didn't see any.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Of it where no alive got an international break mic.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Because there it was that why Chris Wood was here
and we were playing some island nation thinking it was
a big deal and we're going to the World Cup.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Well yeah, the island nation, big Figi of course on
Friday night.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Well, I mean, come on, I mean this whole thing.
Of course we're going to beat Figi and then we'll
beat New Caledonia and then because there's eight hundred countries
going to the World Cup, of course we're going to
go to the World Cup. That's how it works.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Isn't it, Mike. The path might be different, but the
end reward is the same.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yes, it's an expanded, bloated World Cup of forty eight teams,
but that's not New Zealand's fault. They haven't made the rules,
they've been handed them. Ironically enough, the all Whites of
twenty twenty five probably would have got through the old way.
I think they're as good at football team as I've
seen play for us. Expecting a big crowd there to
night at Eden Park, I'll be amongst the thirty five thousand.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
You will, yes, I will be there. I know you
probably won't be, Mike. I hope its tune.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And at some stage are we well let me okay
listen in anticipation of the victory tonight in our trip
for the World Cup, will we as a nation come
to a grinding holt when we draw three times and
think we've done well?
Speaker 4 (10:14):
No, that's see that that is now not sufficient for
this group of players. I think we'll grind too a
halt when New Zealand gets out of the group, gets
into the knockout stages and Chris Wood and Marco Staminich
and many of the others show on a world stage
exactly what they're capable of.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
So you're right, draws aren't any good anymore. I know
you love your draws.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
The World Cup next year and these footballers can't win,
can they? If it's one or it's boring game? According
to Hoskin, if it's ten mil.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I'm hopelessly insistent. Now, sav I need you to get
onto the big story in the sporting world. Are you
do you know of Charlie Gallico. Charlie Gallico, right, Charlie
Gallicos eighty. He is Reggie the Rabbit. So he's a
mascot for the NRL team right now.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Do you know the problem with Reggie the Rabbit. What's
the problem with Reggie the rabbits?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Reggie the Rabbit is on social media having punched a
nine year old. Yeah, so an investigation has been launched.
Reggie the Rabbit went rogue. So I need you to
be onto that tonight.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Please. His own was it his own grand kit? He
would have had a lot of.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Kids from the from the footage I've looked out this morning,
the kid was giving him a bit of lip and Charlie,
being eighty dressed as Reggie, wasn't having any of it.
So he gave the kid a clip and of course
you can't do that as a mess.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I'll look into that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I tell you what I saw yesterday, some wonderful vision
of Grizz right that eighty five game Aorkan Canterbury Lancaster part.
We had a camera on the sideline following Grizz and
he had to make his way through the crab. Remember
they were down about twenty nine half time and he
came on and gave him this rousing half time speech.
He had to wind his way through all these people
who'd gathered on the sideline basis it was out of
control and some and some guy said something to him.
(11:55):
He walked past Grizz, turned and gave him.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
A bit of a slap. This guy then swung a
punch it and.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Hill the days. Nice to see you, guys, Amy Sevil
and Jason Pine.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
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