October 23, 2024 • 12 mins
An iconic Kiwi actor is back in the country.
Craig Parker mostly lives in the United States these days, but has been back in New Zealand for a while, filming a mystery project before he guests at Auckland’s Armageddon Expo.
The last time he was back on this side of the world was a couple of Christmases ago, but he told Mike Hosking that he likes to try visit every couple of years, escaping the milder LA January.
Guesting at conventions like Armageddon is an industry of its own, and Parker says that while it’s easy to be cynical, he loves the con scene.
“They’re a place where, for all different reasons, people who love a show or a genre of shows come together.”
“When you make a show, it’s about the making of the show,” he told Hosking.
“And sometimes you forget that other people out in the world watch it.”
“But these events, you get to meet people who really love the stuff you've done, and it's not an ego thing where you're going, I'm amazing, these people want to meet me, they want to meet you because you are part of some world they love.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Craig Parker's back in the country Shortened Street Lord of
the Ring Spartacans take your pick. He's currently filming something
secret and it's also appearing at the Armaged and Expo
this weekend. Anyway, Craig Parker as well, it's very good
morning to you, Good morning to you, and delightful to
meet you. It seems. It seems one of those weird
things that I've been around a long time and you've
been around a long time, and yet we have never met.
(00:20):
We've never met, so we're rectifying it now. What do
you hear filming?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can't say.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is it super cool?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It was very lovely to be asked and it was
very lovely to do. It's all done now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It was finished. Yes, yes, So have you seen it? No?
I haven't. Do you have a suspicion as to whether
it could be brilliant?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It'll be amazing, Will it be one of the best
things has ever been on television in this country?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So it's a TV thing? Yes, it is okay, funny drama,
oh everything. What's the secrecy about?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's nothing particularly exciting it it's just.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It's just that that it is. It is better for
it to remain remain okay, fair enough to well, I'm
glad you had a good time. How much time you've
been back here these days?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The last time I was back was two Christmases ago,
and then before then I hadn't been back throughout COVID,
So the idea of being in a room for two
weeks by myself was fair enough. I every few years
I try and come back, and ideally so my parents
down south, so if I can do Christmas with them
and then have a month in Auckland in January, which.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Is the best.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yes, it's one of the best places on earth to
be and it escapes. I live in Los Angeles where
we don't really have weather, but January is a bit
wet and a bit slightly colder than yes and normal,
so it's kind of nice to escape.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you are an American now, I am an American.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I got my citizensship this year, no last year.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So to explain to everyone, because I ask everyone the
same questions when they come and when they do what
you do? So you go there on a beza and
you get to work and that spine and if things
go well, you then get maybe a green card, which
you've got and then then you've become a citizenship. But
a citizen is a conscious decision, though, isn't it as
opposed to being able to merely be there and work. Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There is a slight difference in that the green card
gives you, you know, absolute everything except voting and one
other thing which I never recall. But you have to
remain in the country. You have to be in the
country a certain amount of time each year, and you
can't then go away working in another country for nine
months a year and then come back. It's difficult where
(02:34):
if you become a citizen, it's I can come and
go as I please. The difference is you pay tax
there for the rest of your life or you put
in a tax return. And I think they can call
you up into the militia if they go to war.
You know, in America may well have it. I suspect
I've aged out of that risk.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
What is it about America that made you want to
invest to that extent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had lived in London for a long time, which
I absolutely loved, but the industry there is difficult if
you're not English.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I think England is difficult if you're not English.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
England is difficult I grew up in Fiji, so New Zealand,
you know, is very much home. But I've never I've
never needed a place to be home. Home is a
collection of friends or where I want to be. So
that freedom in England, we're slight. I found I was
there was a freedom from their integral class system and
(03:35):
what school you went to and all that thing. We
sort of get to skate through that because we're not
even in competition for that. But it's a wonderful place.
It's just it's a bit grim. So you talk to
people about you know, I'd have a meeting with my
manager or agent there and they'd be like, oh, it's terrible, darling.
It's you know, it's all awful. There's nothing going on
at all. You know, it was booming industry. But you
(03:58):
go to America and it's actually when you first arrived
there and you know, you go to meetings everywhere, so
everyone wants to meet anyone new just in case there
and everyone is so god damn positive. They're like, oh,
we're so glad you're here. It's amazing, We're going to
do great things. I can't wait to work with you.
So you it's you know, and it's it's rubbish, but
(04:18):
it's that positivity is amazing and and it really is
a place for this industry where you know, things are
changing a bit now, but there was a sense of
anything as possible. And and also it was a large
enough market that you are in one successful show, you
make enough meaning to be safe.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
For a while. That's the story of America, though, isn't
it anything as possible?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Anything as possible? It's I'm not sure how real that
story is any more real for you. Yes it is,
but there is there is a you know, every country
has its own myth and its own idea of itself,
and often that's slightly outdated. I but there is greater possibility.
It's just a very big place. It's and California is
(05:07):
different to a lot of you know, it's Europe. It's
a whole lot of different countries all shoved together pretending
to be one country exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So you can't tell us what you were here filming.
That's fine, But you are here for the Alma Gidden thing.
Just let me get into that by talking about Lord
of the Ring Spartacans that whole world. How did you
get into it? And did you partially answer the question
by saying, once you get and it leads to a
whole bunch of other stuff. Anyway, Absolutely it was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There was a show Hercules, yes, and there was a
show Zena and Young Herk and a number of sort
of robbed hap at one great producer came to New
Zealand to use New Zealand's environment and for fantasy, and
they were campy and they were silly, but they became
big money shows for New Zealand. We hadn't been used
(05:55):
to any of those budgets, and you know, the shows
were pretty crappy, but it was suddenly a different way
of working. So all of New Zealand's crew and all
of Auckland, at least Crewe and actors all were on
the show at some stage. And as an actor, you
would you would be invited back, you know, every couple
of weeks, and you put a different wig on, a
different thing to be someone else. Terrible accents, terrible acting,
(06:17):
a lot of things like that. But it gave us
all the taste of that, and I think it was
the beginning of New Zealand being seen as a great location,
particularly for fantasy stuff from overseas.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Do excuse my ignorance because I don't know any of
the names of the people who are coming to apart from
Jason MMU obviously everyone knows him. But the other people
that are coming are they within the.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
World, I don't know anyone. So often you you know,
I do quite a few of these things, and it's
like school camp, you know, over the weekend you get
a little gang of friends from the guests.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You don't underplay it because we had do you know
the name Robert Patrick? Yes, yeah, right, so he does
the same thing. So he turns out I'd never met him.
Reachns it to be nice at Gloving. A lot of
nice to go in the world. So this whole thing
of going to armageddon's around the world. This is an industry.
It is it's absolutely time industry, and it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Is a I it's easy to be cynical about these things,
but they are actually I love them. They are a
place where, for all different reasons, people who love a
show or a genre of shows come together and you
get to meet people. When we make a show, it's
about the making of the show. Well for me anyway,
(07:31):
it's the kindy folk aspect of it. And you know,
you have a home viewer in mind. But the process
for me is all about the making of it, and
you sometimes you forget that other people out in the
world watch it, which is a good thing because it
pays our bills. But these events you get to meet
people who really love the stuff you've done, and it's
(07:52):
it's not an ego thing where you're going, I'm amazing.
These people want to meet me. They want to meet
you because you are part of some world they love.
And with Lord of the Rings those I'd never read
the books as a kid. I didn't know the value
of those stories. And twenty years later still people are coming,
largely for Lord of the Ringstone.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
We would you have inhabited of ice? Do you? Twenty
twenty five years ago? Here's here some fantastical stuff that
could you could be into as an actor. Would you
be going, Well, that's not really familiar. I've gotten bitter
ideas or once you immersed yourself and you couldn't believe
your luck, we.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Couldn't believe the luck. And also I love those There
is something about fantasy worlds that there is something operatic
and wonderful. You get to you know, if you're going
to hate, you really hate, if you're going to love
you really love you can you can really sort of
have a good time with it. So I do like
those worlds and you can get it in a realistic setting.
(08:45):
Every show has to define its own universe, even if
it apparently is this universe, it's not. It's always a
universal in the show, and within the fantasy worlds you
get to play some really fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So is it original? And the reason I say a
report the other day, post the strike in Hollywood, production's
gone down.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Terrible exactly eighty percent less.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Exactly, so they don't make. What they are making is
all remakes of remakes. There is not an original idea left.
So is what you're doing an original idea or just
an offshoot of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, there's the idea that there is no original ideas.
It's it's the five stories that we retell. But what
has happened is it's I think there's a number of things.
There is that sort of eighties that happened with it manufacturing.
There is an asset stripping going on throughout the studios,
(09:39):
and Hedge funds own most of I think it's seventy
percent of the studios are owned by Hedge funds now
and hedge funds don't grow anything. They shove a hole
lot of capital in somewhere, they strip as much return
from that, and then they back off with their I said,
back with their capital, and they leave ruins behind. So
we're sort of going through that change. And we're also
(10:01):
going through a stage where you pay j Lo two
hundred million dollars to do five films for Netflix. You
don't really care how good they are because it's Netflix,
so everyone tunes in that night. I think they had
half a billion people tune into some robot thing and
you know, she's great. People in it are great. It
was terrible, but it doesn't matter because this you don't
(10:22):
need them the next night. You just need that one
metric amazing. And it's heartbreaking. But I think, you know,
there's still some of the most creative people in the
world are working out of that place, and they will
find a way to make good stories. I think there
are still good stories being told, but there's just a
lot of drafts at the moment as well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
One more question about being a US citizen, will you vote? Well, absolutely,
you've decided yes, even in California. I suspect I know
which way you both that doesn't really matter. But in
California it's amict.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I suspect, yeah, my vote will not really alter what
California is going to do. But I still the fact
that I can vote is an incredibly powerful thing for me.
I think, you know, I I wish everywhere it was
compulsory to vote, all right. I wish people took a
vote the value of a vote serious process serious, or
took the process serious. Yeah. And also and I absolutely
(11:20):
get it, there are people who go it doesn't make
any difference which way I vote, because there's a whole
lot of people who you know, never really benefit. But
but for me, it's I love it. I got to vote,
I think in more sort of local things.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Last year. Do you vote in props? In props?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I do, But it's it's so confusing the system there is.
You know, whenever there is a Prop fifty five, it's
like vote no one to say yes to reject the
proposal that you agree with, and you have you know,
you have to. So there is certain amount of things
that you just you find a newspaper that you trust
or you that aligns with your thoughts, and there's a
(11:59):
whole lot of you know the dog you vote for,
the dog catcher, or the local librarian assessment and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So Carrie Kerry, you were embracing her in a way
that I've really seen. Is there something you want to
tell us about?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I love carry Woodham more than anything. We we met
each other years ago in the disgraceful days in Wellington
of Heredisa and I love her, and she and I
lived together for a wee while.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Stop and I didn't even know. I just thought these two.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Know each other. No, I adore her. I haven't done
it for a few years.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Good will you go catch up with him? Good to
make you nice to talk?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Loving me? Thanks for talking, Craig Parker. For more from
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Craig Parker's back in the country Shortened Street Lord of
the Ring Spartacans take your pick. He's currently filming something
secret and it's also appearing at the Armaged and Expo
this weekend. Anyway, Craig Parker as well, it's very good
morning to you, Good morning to you, and delightful to
meet you. It seems. It seems one of those weird
things that I've been around a long time and you've
been around a long time, and yet we have never met.
(00:20):
We've never met, so we're rectifying it now. What do
you hear filming?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I can't say.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Is it super cool?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It was very lovely to be asked and it was
very lovely to do. It's all done now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
It was finished. Yes, yes, So have you seen it? No?
I haven't. Do you have a suspicion as to whether
it could be brilliant?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It'll be amazing, Will it be one of the best
things has ever been on television in this country?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So it's a TV thing? Yes, it is okay, funny drama,
oh everything. What's the secrecy about?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's nothing particularly exciting it it's just.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
It's just that that it is. It is better for
it to remain remain okay, fair enough to well, I'm
glad you had a good time. How much time you've
been back here these days?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The last time I was back was two Christmases ago,
and then before then I hadn't been back throughout COVID,
So the idea of being in a room for two
weeks by myself was fair enough. I every few years
I try and come back, and ideally so my parents
down south, so if I can do Christmas with them
and then have a month in Auckland in January, which.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Is the best.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yes, it's one of the best places on earth to
be and it escapes. I live in Los Angeles where
we don't really have weather, but January is a bit
wet and a bit slightly colder than yes and normal,
so it's kind of nice to escape.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
So you are an American now, I am an American.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I got my citizensship this year, no last year.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
So to explain to everyone, because I ask everyone the
same questions when they come and when they do what
you do? So you go there on a beza and
you get to work and that spine and if things
go well, you then get maybe a green card, which
you've got and then then you've become a citizenship. But
a citizen is a conscious decision, though, isn't it as
opposed to being able to merely be there and work. Yes, and.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
There is a slight difference in that the green card
gives you, you know, absolute everything except voting and one
other thing which I never recall. But you have to
remain in the country. You have to be in the
country a certain amount of time each year, and you
can't then go away working in another country for nine
months a year and then come back. It's difficult where
(02:34):
if you become a citizen, it's I can come and
go as I please. The difference is you pay tax
there for the rest of your life or you put
in a tax return. And I think they can call
you up into the militia if they go to war.
You know, in America may well have it. I suspect
I've aged out of that risk.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
What is it about America that made you want to
invest to that extent.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I had lived in London for a long time, which
I absolutely loved, but the industry there is difficult if
you're not English.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I think England is difficult if you're not English.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
England is difficult I grew up in Fiji, so New Zealand,
you know, is very much home. But I've never I've
never needed a place to be home. Home is a
collection of friends or where I want to be. So
that freedom in England, we're slight. I found I was
there was a freedom from their integral class system and
(03:35):
what school you went to and all that thing. We
sort of get to skate through that because we're not
even in competition for that. But it's a wonderful place.
It's just it's a bit grim. So you talk to
people about you know, I'd have a meeting with my
manager or agent there and they'd be like, oh, it's terrible, darling.
It's you know, it's all awful. There's nothing going on
at all. You know, it was booming industry. But you
(03:58):
go to America and it's actually when you first arrived
there and you know, you go to meetings everywhere, so
everyone wants to meet anyone new just in case there
and everyone is so god damn positive. They're like, oh,
we're so glad you're here. It's amazing, We're going to
do great things. I can't wait to work with you.
So you it's you know, and it's it's rubbish, but
(04:18):
it's that positivity is amazing and and it really is
a place for this industry where you know, things are
changing a bit now, but there was a sense of
anything as possible. And and also it was a large
enough market that you are in one successful show, you
make enough meaning to be safe.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
For a while. That's the story of America, though, isn't
it anything as possible?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Anything as possible? It's I'm not sure how real that
story is any more real for you. Yes it is,
but there is there is a you know, every country
has its own myth and its own idea of itself,
and often that's slightly outdated. I but there is greater possibility.
It's just a very big place. It's and California is
(05:07):
different to a lot of you know, it's Europe. It's
a whole lot of different countries all shoved together pretending
to be one country exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So you can't tell us what you were here filming.
That's fine, But you are here for the Alma Gidden thing.
Just let me get into that by talking about Lord
of the Ring Spartacans that whole world. How did you
get into it? And did you partially answer the question
by saying, once you get and it leads to a
whole bunch of other stuff. Anyway, Absolutely it was.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
There was a show Hercules, yes, and there was a
show Zena and Young Herk and a number of sort
of robbed hap at one great producer came to New
Zealand to use New Zealand's environment and for fantasy, and
they were campy and they were silly, but they became
big money shows for New Zealand. We hadn't been used
(05:55):
to any of those budgets, and you know, the shows
were pretty crappy, but it was suddenly a different way
of working. So all of New Zealand's crew and all
of Auckland, at least Crewe and actors all were on
the show at some stage. And as an actor, you
would you would be invited back, you know, every couple
of weeks, and you put a different wig on, a
different thing to be someone else. Terrible accents, terrible acting,
(06:17):
a lot of things like that. But it gave us
all the taste of that, and I think it was
the beginning of New Zealand being seen as a great location,
particularly for fantasy stuff from overseas.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Do excuse my ignorance because I don't know any of
the names of the people who are coming to apart from
Jason MMU obviously everyone knows him. But the other people
that are coming are they within the.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
World, I don't know anyone. So often you you know,
I do quite a few of these things, and it's
like school camp, you know, over the weekend you get
a little gang of friends from the guests.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You don't underplay it because we had do you know
the name Robert Patrick? Yes, yeah, right, so he does
the same thing. So he turns out I'd never met him.
Reachns it to be nice at Gloving. A lot of
nice to go in the world. So this whole thing
of going to armageddon's around the world. This is an industry.
It is it's absolutely time industry, and it.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Is a I it's easy to be cynical about these things,
but they are actually I love them. They are a
place where, for all different reasons, people who love a
show or a genre of shows come together and you
get to meet people. When we make a show, it's
about the making of the show. Well for me anyway,
(07:31):
it's the kindy folk aspect of it. And you know,
you have a home viewer in mind. But the process
for me is all about the making of it, and
you sometimes you forget that other people out in the
world watch it, which is a good thing because it
pays our bills. But these events you get to meet
people who really love the stuff you've done, and it's
(07:52):
it's not an ego thing where you're going, I'm amazing.
These people want to meet me. They want to meet
you because you are part of some world they love.
And with Lord of the Rings those I'd never read
the books as a kid. I didn't know the value
of those stories. And twenty years later still people are coming,
largely for Lord of the Ringstone.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
We would you have inhabited of ice? Do you? Twenty
twenty five years ago? Here's here some fantastical stuff that
could you could be into as an actor. Would you
be going, Well, that's not really familiar. I've gotten bitter
ideas or once you immersed yourself and you couldn't believe
your luck, we.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Couldn't believe the luck. And also I love those There
is something about fantasy worlds that there is something operatic
and wonderful. You get to you know, if you're going
to hate, you really hate, if you're going to love
you really love you can you can really sort of
have a good time with it. So I do like
those worlds and you can get it in a realistic setting.
(08:45):
Every show has to define its own universe, even if
it apparently is this universe, it's not. It's always a
universal in the show, and within the fantasy worlds you
get to play some really fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So is it original? And the reason I say a
report the other day, post the strike in Hollywood, production's
gone down.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Terrible exactly eighty percent less.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Exactly, so they don't make. What they are making is
all remakes of remakes. There is not an original idea left.
So is what you're doing an original idea or just
an offshoot of the same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well, there's the idea that there is no original ideas.
It's it's the five stories that we retell. But what
has happened is it's I think there's a number of things.
There is that sort of eighties that happened with it manufacturing.
There is an asset stripping going on throughout the studios,
(09:39):
and Hedge funds own most of I think it's seventy
percent of the studios are owned by Hedge funds now
and hedge funds don't grow anything. They shove a hole
lot of capital in somewhere, they strip as much return
from that, and then they back off with their I said,
back with their capital, and they leave ruins behind. So
we're sort of going through that change. And we're also
(10:01):
going through a stage where you pay j Lo two
hundred million dollars to do five films for Netflix. You
don't really care how good they are because it's Netflix,
so everyone tunes in that night. I think they had
half a billion people tune into some robot thing and
you know, she's great. People in it are great. It
was terrible, but it doesn't matter because this you don't
(10:22):
need them the next night. You just need that one
metric amazing. And it's heartbreaking. But I think, you know,
there's still some of the most creative people in the
world are working out of that place, and they will
find a way to make good stories. I think there
are still good stories being told, but there's just a
lot of drafts at the moment as well.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
One more question about being a US citizen, will you vote? Well, absolutely,
you've decided yes, even in California. I suspect I know
which way you both that doesn't really matter. But in
California it's amict.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I suspect, yeah, my vote will not really alter what
California is going to do. But I still the fact
that I can vote is an incredibly powerful thing for me.
I think, you know, I I wish everywhere it was
compulsory to vote, all right. I wish people took a
vote the value of a vote serious process serious, or
took the process serious. Yeah. And also and I absolutely
(11:20):
get it, there are people who go it doesn't make
any difference which way I vote, because there's a whole
lot of people who you know, never really benefit. But
but for me, it's I love it. I got to vote,
I think in more sort of local things.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Last year. Do you vote in props? In props?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I do, But it's it's so confusing the system there is.
You know, whenever there is a Prop fifty five, it's
like vote no one to say yes to reject the
proposal that you agree with, and you have you know,
you have to. So there is certain amount of things
that you just you find a newspaper that you trust
or you that aligns with your thoughts, and there's a
(11:59):
whole lot of you know the dog you vote for,
the dog catcher, or the local librarian assessment and stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So Carrie Kerry, you were embracing her in a way
that I've really seen. Is there something you want to
tell us about?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I love carry Woodham more than anything. We we met
each other years ago in the disgraceful days in Wellington
of Heredisa and I love her, and she and I
lived together for a wee while.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Stop and I didn't even know. I just thought these two.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Know each other. No, I adore her. I haven't done
it for a few years.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Good will you go catch up with him? Good to
make you nice to talk?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Loving me? Thanks for talking, Craig Parker. For more from
the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks it'd
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