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August 28, 2024 12 mins

While it was in Tokyo that Ellesse Andrews emerged onto the Olympic scene, it was in Paris that she established herself as the one to beat in world track cycling. 

Silver in the team sprint, gold in the keirin and topped off with a gold in the individual sprint it was historic Games for the 24-year-old as she became the first woman to complete the sprint/keirin Olympic double. 

Andrews’ three medals took New Zealand’s tally to 14 from 17 Olympiads; an impressive strike rate for a nation whose most-Googled Olympic statistic is the medals-per-capita table. 

The four-time Olympic medallist told Mike Hosking she feels New Zealand’s prowess in cycling comes from people up and down the country who are passionate about the sport, not just in its spiritual home of Cambridge.

“I think with cycling in New Zealand it’s not just about Cambridge, it’s not about that hub it’s about the whole country and what cycling means to the whole country.

“I have grown up in various different areas around New Zealand. Wanaka being one of them, [it’s] amazing for mountain biking, you know. So I would get on my mountain bike as a kid and I’d sprint [against] my parents and that was so much fun and that’s what made me excited.

“Moving down to Invercargill where I tried track cycling, they have an absolute passion for cycling there. They love it and so the Southland programme really, really helped nurture me Canterbury the same, there’s just so many local legends in Canterbury that are just so passionate about what they do.”

On Cambridge, Andrews said having a genuinely world class facility to train at gives the New Zealand team a real shot at competing with the best in the world, along with the buy-in from the local community.

“Moving into Cambridge, where I moved when I was 16, [it’s a] similar thing, you know, we have that facility there - it’s world class. I have people who support me, sponsors, the facility, the community, everything there is just so special.

“And so I think it’s the tight knit community and it’s the passion that’s within that community.” 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of the games we play at the Games of courses,
Who did best? Who was your favorite? Met a lot
of headlines for Hamish Care of course, because he seemed
to basically come out of nowhere. Dame Lisa Carrington because
she has more medals than just about anyone's ever seen.
And then of course we have Elise Andrews, so she
took home a couple of golds in a silver. She
dominated the velodrome and she is with us. Lovely to
see you and meet you.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Have I been boring you in the last five minutes
with my intricate series of questions on cycling and fitness.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, I actually enjoy talking to people who don't have
as probably as much knowledge as me of track cycling.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
So no, definitely not bored at all.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Fantastic what I find fascinating about what you do. And
first of all, clear some stuff up for everybody who
asked all the same questions at the Olympics. The track
was fast. It was a fast track. What makes a
fast track?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
So one massive thing that we talked about and we
know of the Parish track is its height. So we
going into the competition knew that in our flying two hundreds,
we would see some insanely fast times and that is
one of the massive as contributing to that, because you know,
the higher we are, the more.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Speed we're going to get off the banking.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And so we knew that, we knew that the shape
of the track was fast, we knew that it was
going to be hot, we knew that it was quality.
So yeah, there were so many factors that made us
really excited to race on Paris fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
How did you choose what you chose to do in
terms of an event?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I love individual and team events. For me, you know,
I have had success previously in the individual events, which
gave me a start in both of those, and we
were really excited to put a team on the line
as well. So for me, the team event was easy.
I absolutely love that, and I knew I wanted to
do both individual events as well, even though it was
a crazy, crazy schedule. I knew that beforehand, and I

(01:46):
prepared the.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Individual events that you were so good at at what
point in your career or life does somebody go that's
what you could do as opposed to you being on
the road, Yeah, long distance whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I I always love track cycling over road. But
I was an endurance when I was a bit younger.
But I feel like people saw saw qualities in me
that that sort of spoke to track cycling, and so,
you know, one of them was I loved I loved
being in that bunch and I loved, you know, getting
in those tricky situations and getting myself out, so tactically

(02:19):
I loved the Karen. But then sort of my physical
you know ability lent itself really well to sprint cycling
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
So your physicality does that predetermine to some degree what
you will end up doing within cycling?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yes, absolutely so. I mean some pure, pure sprinters, which
isn't me. I'm very obvious that they would be sprinters.
You know, they are extremely poppy, extremely powerful, fast, and
the same with extreme endurance athletes on the track. You
know you'll be able to tell the difference between those. Yeah,
it gets a little bit more tricky with athletes like
me who have a little bit of both. So it

(02:54):
took me a while to find my past.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you were born that way?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yes, I was born Yeah, I would say I was
born that way.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Can you in cycling if you are determined in some
way shape or form become great or are you born great?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I think you know I have.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I have cycling parents, I have a whole cycling family,
so I think I have that to think that as well. Yeah,
But I mean along along with that, there's there's so
many things that go into you know, making making an athlete,
and you know, passion is one of them as well.
You know, it's not all about your physical ability, it's
it's your drive and your want to be an athlete
as well.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, so cycling appeals to you, why as opposed to
anything else.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Track cycling in particular, I love the speed, and I
love the adrenaline. I'm such an adrenaline person.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And you ride a motorbike, I mean maybe I will.
I don't know, I could do that later.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So what strikes me about it as first of all,
cycling is accessible, Yeah, I mean because most people can
afford a bike. You get on a bike, you're off
and running. What you've got there in Cambridge? I take
it you're in Cambridge. Yes, I mean that's a fantastic
facility and despite the headlines of the last couple of years,
it's actually been and is a brilliant program. And would
what can you tell us about because it's yachting wasn't

(04:05):
the same this time, but yachting rowing cycling in this
country to a lesser extent. I suppose a Questrian have
clearly programs that work that breed champions. So what can
you tell me about what we do with cycling that
makes us so successful?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I think with cycling in New Zealand, you know, it's
not just about Cambridge, it's not about that harbor. It's
about our whole country and what cycling means to the country.
And I have grown up in various different areas around
New Zealand, Wannaca being one of them. Amazing for mountain biking,
you know. So I would get on my mountain bike
as a kid and I'd sprint my parents and that
was so much fun, and that's what made me excited.

(04:43):
Moving down to Inficago, where I tried track cycling. They
have an absolute passion for cycling there. They love it,
and so the Southland program really really helped nurture me.
Canterbury the same. There's just so many local legions in
Canterbury that are just so passionate about what they do.
And moving into Cambridge where I move when I was
sixteen similar thing. You know, we have that facility there.

(05:05):
It's world class. I have people who support me, sponsors,
the facility, the community, everything there is just so special.
And so I think it's the tight knit community and
it's the passion that's within that community.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Fantastic. I was reading the article the other day post
Olympics athletes go through this dreadful lull. You don't strike
me as being particularly depressed this morning. You seem seem
full ofide of me. No.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I mean, it's something that we are all aware of.
And I think it's after you've gone through such a
massive high, you know what's on the other side of that,
when you've been focusing on one thing for so long.
But you know, I'm I'm really enjoying sort of a
break and enjoying times with friends and family, and yeah,
I sort of haven't really felt that, yeah, that lull,

(05:50):
But I you know, I have an amazing support around me,
and I am aware of people who do feel the
lull as well.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
But you're also young. You've got years ahead of you. Yeah,
you've got the next Olympics, the Olympics after that and
all that sort of stuff. Yeah, let me get just
momentarily technical and boil you whitlers. So I cycle right. Yeah,
So I have an understanding when I look at that
I can do fifty five k's, but it's it's I
get there. It's it's reasonably fast, but I know what
it takes to get there. So I look at you

(06:15):
guys on the track, and that's what blows me away
about how you do it, because anyone who's never done
fifty five k's doesn't understand how hard that is for
a regular person, And you guys just blow it out
of the water. At what point do you physically limit
yourself to a point where you can go no faster? Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think you know. Paris is a massive example of that.
You know, we we put absolutely everything into the track
and we I feel like, could not have gone any faster.
But you know, in saying that, you know, you do
review a race and you think, maybe I could have
technically done something better. Maybe physically I couldn't have given
anything more to the race, but maybe technically I could

(06:56):
have written a better line. All of that kind of stuff.
So yeah, that's the reviews that we sort of do
now and yet reflect on.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
So we can so fast, that's.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
My next question, how much of the sport then around
speed and success is about you as a human being
versus the bike or the track or the conditions.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I really think it is just, you know, a mixture
of all of those elements that create a good performance.
You know, of course, you need the good athlete, and
you need the athlete to be on form at the time,
but you need the athlete to be riding equipment that
is going to allow them to go fast. You need
the track to be good enough conditions to allow the
athlete to go fast, and then the athlete needs to
be able to technically ride the bike fast enough and

(07:34):
be able to handle it.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Is the technology changing in the bike dramatically or slowly
or not at all.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
I'd say, you know, it definitely is changing. But in
saying that, we ride a very simple classic frame at
site in New Zealand. But you know, there are countries
that spend hundreds and thousands of dollars per bike, you know,
in development, and they are they are going fast, so
you know, maybe there is a little something in that.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
So there is something now. Now, once again, without getting technical,
I noticed on the bike some countries ran what I
would call from below the handlebars a square sort of
thing at the front. Does that make sense as opposed
to the traditional why?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, yeah, So there were countries who ride those those
different looking forks in those different frames, and it's an
aerodynamical thing, but potentially creates, you know, a different handling
aspect to the bike as well. So you know, there's
lots of elements that would have gone into their testing
for them to you know, develop that type of frame.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
How much of your success is about the program then,
and the money that's put into it, the facilities they
provide you, the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I think. I think it's massive.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know, we can do absolutely everything that we can
as athletes, but you know, if we don't have the
coaching staff, the support staff, if we don't have everyone
on board creating the systems, the bikes, the skin suits,
all of that to the absolute highest highest level, we're
not going to go as fast as we could.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
How much how many times have you hit the track
I had to and slid down.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I've had two major crashes, but I've had more crashes
than that overall. I'd say, you know, less than ten.
You know, I'm not falling off every day or anything
like that. But yeah, I'd like to say I have
only had two major major crashes, which is the ones
where I've had a concussion, broken collar bone.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Because it's only when you fail that you see how
stick that is? Yeah? How many splinters there are on that?
Oh yeah, And people think it's smooth and shiny.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
No, no, no, you do not want to fall off. And
that's I think why all of us avoid it so greatly.
The splinters are horrible. You know. I've seen some horrific ones,
seen photos of horrific ones. But when I crash, you know,
it hasn't been crazy massive splinters. It's just been the
amount of wooden splinters in your body. It's not good.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Given have you given much thought to this? Given? You
just back? But what happens now? Does the field come
to you or do you leave the field behind?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I you know, I think at the start of a
new Olympic cycle, obviously we do a lot of infliction
and planning for the future. And I think, you know,
a lot of it isn't what is the field doing,
it's you know, how can I make myself better? Knowing
that every single athlete in the field is also thinking
the same thing. So we don't know what's going to
happen in terms of everyone else's development. What I can

(10:15):
control is my development, and that's what I'm going to
focus on.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Okay, what are your weak points?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
My weak points? I'd say.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
We were just talking about this a little earlier, but
I think I have a lot to do in the gym,
in the upper body.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
That is a massive thing for me.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'm quite messy on my bike, especially when I'm absolutely fatigued.
I do, you know, flip a little a little bit
all over the show. So I think for me, it's just, Yeah,
the first thing is that stability, that strength, but of
course always consistency in training. Not that I haven't had
that and not that I don't do that, but you know,
this year has been up and down with the crash

(10:51):
and all of that kind of stuff. So I think
for me, it's just consistency and getting all those little
things right.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
One of the best things about the whole games for
me and watching you, was it the end. I can't
remember what med it was, but you said, I'm proud
of how I carried myself through this. Where does that
come from?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'm so proud of the whole entire week because of
how massive it was.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I knew that it was going to be like that
going in.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I knew that, you know, all going well, I was
going to be racing every day, six days, and that's
scary and it's daunting and looking at that from the
beginning of a competition is a lot. So I think
to get to the end where I sort of was
feeling those emotions, I was so proud of how I
turned up every day. But even when I was exhausted,
I turned up and I made sure to give absolutely

(11:35):
everything to the race.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
When's your next tournament in November? Yeah, so I'm very
excited for that. It's it's quite a fun little league,
and so I hit to Europe for that, a.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Fun little leg. Once you're a gold middle it's a
fun little thing. I'll between the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
No, I'm very excited for it. It's sort of like
the only the only event in the year that's that's
more about entertainment than it is about Yeah, getting out there.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Well was congratulations on it all, well done, been great
to me and talk with you. Appreciate it very much
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