Full Show Podcast: 01 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial
and rural news talks head being.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Billing and welcome today more coppers as the new Police
College opens. The Investors Evened office also opens today for well,
if they build it, will they come some more talker
Our new theories could be partially privatized. Ryan Fox in
for a word before the open Championship. Our kasmine Field
is in a heart and smoke free France. Right little
does the burst from the UK asking gooday morning, welcome

(00:32):
to it. Are the fiscally here's a question? Are the
fiscally illiterate making a comeback? So New York decided a
bloke who will eventually run the place bankrupt should be
the next mayor. He will tax and make a lot
of stuff free. He will watch business leave town, thus
shrinking the tax ball. He will most likely make New
York look like San Francisco. Britain, already a fiscal mess,

(00:52):
has what looked for a while like a moderate version
of the labor government. They saw the trouble they had
made at least not unreasonable noises about sorting things out
until now. Of course, welfare reform is undoing Starmer's good
work by winning so lavishly at the election. He has
a very large caucus, over one hundred and twenty of
them are not economically that attuned to the plight of
the country, and despite the welfare bill running them to
the poor house, they have decided the reform program that

(01:14):
would have cut five billion pounds off it is not acceptable.
So they threaten the Prime Minister and they have won.
He has back down. The back down is a massive
humiliation the government with a mandate. Until the mandate was hijacked,
such as the political cycle. Many of the what many
of the agreed will not be back next time, but
when they're gone, the problem they refuse to face will

(01:36):
still be real. This all leads to the question when
is political success not success? Answer when you are Keiya
Stama with a party that doesn't align with your thinking.
Another question is democracy so valuable that you back it
even when the people and in the Democrats case in
New York, a very small collection to people vote to
destroy what has made you great for all the fearmongering

(01:59):
that's gone on and so and parts of Europe with
the so called far right in their rise? Is the
worry not equally shared by the rise of certain parts
of the world of the far left. If you can
ban the AfD in Germany, can you ban the crazies
in New York? Is the vetting process in need of
an overhaul in UK labor? So the far left don't
hijack the joint Is this some movement or just a
couple of examples and a bigger question for you? When

(02:20):
you have wrecked the place like Portland or San Francisco,
or the debt has ballooned in Britain to the point
where the payments on interest are ruinous. Do those who
wanted it like it and see it as a success
or don't they care? Asking ah, Yes, welfare and recorn leaves.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Views of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Our difficult days in the commons, the Tories all over it.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
This is a government in chaos, open rebellion from their
own backbenches, unfunded U turns, costing billions, and welfare plans
that are not worth the paper they are written on.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Scott's needed reassuring.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
The Spending Review has delivered an additional nine billion pounds
for Scotland, the biggest deva settlement in the history of devolution,
and I just hope that the SMP matches our ambition
to get more people into good work.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
There's also the ongoing issue of Blessed though, whether the
BBC are taking all Beryls.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
The moment he started to call for people to be killed,
and it doesn't matter who's calling for to be killed,
it's wrong. They should have instantly pulled the feed, which
is a very easy thing to do.

Speaker 6 (03:29):
More Beryls questions remain, including why this performance was broadcast live,
given the concerns regarding other acts in the weeks preceding
the festival, why the feed wasn't immediately cut.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The instate side, the Big Beautiful Bill is getting a big, boring,
stalling debike from the Dems.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
Senate Republicans have to decide choose the American people or
bow down to Donald Trump and his coterie of billionaires.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well you know which way a they going to go. Obviously,
the jury is out in the Combs trial a lot
of stake, perhaps no more so than the racketeering charges.

Speaker 8 (04:04):
The most serious charge of which he is accused is racketeering.
This is something that's usually reserved for big criminal enterprises
like the mafia. It carries a maximum sentence of life
in prison.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Finally, time of the weather. Spain is expecting their hottest
June day on record. They think forty six ish in
the South. Previous forty five degree record is sixty years old.
Kind of proving hot days, aren't you. Portugal recorded their
hottest ever June day forty six points six seven regions
are on red. Greece forty three parasit for thirty nine.
Catherines there will go there shortly. London thirty five could

(04:40):
have thirty five. That'd be the hottest day of the
year so far. What is so the usfar is not
really a thing, is it? There's the hottest day of
the usfr that's called Summer Day one of Wimbledon though
thirty four degrees. That's the hottest opening day ever for Wimbledon.
And what was cool about that? As Beckham was there
and he didn't even remove his tie, In fact he didn't.
He's so cool, he didn't even look hot. As new
as the world of ninety A German inflation where it's

(05:03):
probably hot as well, but the inflation isn't annual. Numberkman
at two percent for June. Is that good? Yes, because
they thought it would be two point two, so it
seems to be well under control. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
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Speaker 2 (05:23):
China still struggling manufacturing, third month in a right it's
gone the wrong way forty nine point seven, so that's
below expansion numbers. Of course, a non manufacturing services construction
that went sort of you know, it's just above fifty,
but barely. We've got the Casanon manufacturing coming today. Fifteen
past six from j My Wealth Andrew Kellah. Good morning,

(05:45):
very good morning.

Speaker 9 (05:45):
My good news is here.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Because we have found some confidence, a.

Speaker 10 (05:49):
Little bit of confidence. Yeah, we're going to bring it
back home this morning. The rest of the week could
get quite interesting over in the US, actually, Mark, because
they've got a holiday shortened week over there. You've got
the big holiday on Friday, July fourth, and that one
big beautiful Bill Act working its way through the Senator
as we speak. Yeah, but the local economy, the wheels
keep turning, Mike, And as we've spoken about many times,

(06:10):
we've got this sort of two speed economy, the rural
urban thing, agri versus everything else in the north versus south,
and you can see evidence of this in the start
to release yesterday, so aims a business outlook.

Speaker 11 (06:21):
Yeah, confidence has recovered.

Speaker 10 (06:23):
What I think is interesting here, Mike, we've still got
this big gap between expectations and the cold hard reality
of the here and now.

Speaker 11 (06:30):
So well, I suppose.

Speaker 10 (06:31):
Unless you're a dairy or be fun, which case, the
hero and now is pretty good. But confidence bounced in June,
So headline number forty six point three versus thirty six
point six in June.

Speaker 11 (06:43):
Now, this was kind of expected because you might recall
in May you.

Speaker 10 (06:46):
Had that sort of divergence inside the month, and things
got better and better as May went on. So essentially
now you've got forty six percent of respondents expecting better
business conditions ahead. But here's the thing in there. You've
got this past own activity that's the best predictor of
GDP or growth, and it's gone the other way. It's
down three points, but expected activity went up. It rose

(07:09):
six points. So this actual own past activity and expected activity,
these two indicators have diverged quite a lot in the
last couple of years. So respondents keep thinking things are
going to get better. But the actual level of activity
is having a hard time catching up with those expectations.
And you know, recall last year survived till twenty five.

(07:29):
But we're you know, we're not seeing that love yet
so far, and it's now looking like more like it's
going to be twenty six.

Speaker 12 (07:36):
There.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
As I say, there is this evidence of the differential
sectors so profit expectations, no surprise there the sector with
the highest profit expectations the AGRA sector construction's the lowest
investment expectations, big jump, and investment expectations.

Speaker 11 (07:51):
For the agresector low levels in retail.

Speaker 10 (07:54):
You can see evidence in the responses that people are
cognizant of that investment legislation because government policy is now
being cited as a key reason to invest.

Speaker 11 (08:06):
Cost precious still evident are.

Speaker 10 (08:07):
Being zebral Note that I agree with the authors though
the omens for Q two GDP aren't promising.

Speaker 13 (08:13):
No.

Speaker 10 (08:14):
Yeah, to sum it up, Mike, the I think the
survey paints a picture of some relief that the tariff
noise has subsided and I find it fascinating that that
tariff noise is having such an impact at a local
avenue zone, but outside of the agrosector activity actual activity
is still quite subdued, right.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And so how does that dubtail into the jobs.

Speaker 11 (08:34):
Into the job.

Speaker 10 (08:35):
So this, yeah, labor market number yesterday is the monthly
employment indicator. This is what we call phill jobs Inland
revenue data hard DARTA, not a survey, yet very lackluster.
Philled jobs up zero point one percent in May. Now
wouldn't have been surprised to see that in negative territory,
but the previous months have been revised lower, so it's
quite probable that May's zero point one will be revised lower.

(08:57):
Mixed across sectors construction notable for are loss in jobs. Look,
this whole thing raises the possibility of a slightly higher.

Speaker 11 (09:05):
Unemployment rate at some point.

Speaker 12 (09:07):
The number of.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
Full jobs across the whole country is two percent lower
than the peak in early twenty twenty four, so there's
less jobs. Primary sector was up zero point four The
service sector, it's the big employer in New Zealand. Seventy
five percent of full jobs are in services. That did
rise point one percent. It's okay, but it fell They
revised down, so in April it was down zero point

(09:29):
two percent. That's down one percent year on year. And
what this number in here that I find really sad.
Might no reprieve for the youngsters the fifteen to nineteen
year age gap. That employment is down almost ten percent
in the last year, So pretty tough for school leavers.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Out there, Ain't that the truth? What are the numbers?

Speaker 10 (09:47):
Well, the US markets have bounced on that sort of
Canada announcement.

Speaker 11 (09:51):
I think they're reacting positively to that.

Speaker 10 (09:53):
So the digital services tax being dropped as part of
the negotiations there.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
So the Dow Jones is up one hundred and twenty
six points. That's point two nine percent.

Speaker 10 (10:01):
Forty three thousand, nine hundred and forty seven. The S
and P five hundred are all time highs there six
one eighty four. It's up eleven points point one eight percent.
In the NASDAK up forty.

Speaker 11 (10:11):
Two points, twenty thousand, three hundred.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
And fifteen, the forty one hundred foul point four to
three percent start the week eight seven, six oh the
Nikay was up point eight four percent forty thousand to
four hundred and eighty seven. Shanghai Composite up twenty three
four four four. The AUSSIS gained twenty eight points yesterday.
The six two hundred closing at eight five four to two,

(10:34):
and on the local market we gained nineteen points point
one five percent twelve thousand, six hundred two. The close
Kiwi dollar continues to go up point six eight seven
against the US, point nine two six three against the OSSI,
point five one seven two Euro, point four four to
three nine against the pound, eighty seven point a two.
Japanese end gold is three thousand, two hundred ninety four

(10:56):
dollars in brea crude steady as sixty seven dollars and
sixty three.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
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(11:22):
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Speaker 1 (11:27):
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Speaker 2 (11:37):
Great sadness of Glastonbury this year is it's going to
be remembered for those dickheads who made spectacles of themselves.
Avon and Somerset Police have announced overnight they've had a
look at the video footage. Following the completion of that assessment,
we have decided further inquiries are required. A criminal investigation
is now being undertaken. It'll be evidence led and will
closely consider all appropriate legislation, including relating to hate crimes.

(12:00):
This is Bob Villain of course, and Kneecap as well,
so they're both in for it. I assume they knew
what they were doing when they ventured out into the
world of being deckheads. What will not go well for
mister Villain, not that mister Villain's a person, but they're
a duo. But I won't boy you witness with anyway.
Point being as Marco Rubia is now looking at it,
they're due to tour America and there's much angst and

(12:24):
the Republican Congressman Randy Fine says he is quote unquote
on it, so on it means the US state department
are looking into stopping mister Pascal Robinson Foster aka Bobby
Villain from touring America, so he might find that being
a dickhead at Glastonbury has major implications for his career.
And I say good Sex twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
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Speaker 2 (12:50):
Now having seen every app every movie for the last
fifteen years, six seasons, fifty two individual programs all and
not forgetting the five Christmas specials under it said to
report this morning that Downton abby is coming to an end,
and end and final end are dropping overnight and insight
into Downton Abbey the Grind finale. It's hard to accept

(13:12):
that it's time to go.

Speaker 14 (13:15):
Your friendship has never been more important to all of us,
but the future of Downton Abbey is now in Mary's hands.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
You will be a sensation.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm very sorry I shouldn't have come. The world is
changing the way we talk, the way we dress, the
way we deal with each other.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Surely you're entitled to have.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Some fun classic Mary Long Lived down to na Abbey.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Amen to that. I love Michelle Dockery. No, no, no, no,
it's a smash. It I mean it's a smashit millions
all out of will reveled and who doesn't love a
costume drama. I mean, honestly, we were just discussed about it.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
Does it doesn't happen in our house.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's and beautiful real estate and classic aged furniture with
people serving you.

Speaker 9 (14:15):
The more you talk, the more I'm just about to
lose consciousness.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Lovely China. Don't you want to live in a house
with beautifully polished silver cutlery?

Speaker 9 (14:24):
If it can't go in the dishwasher, I don't own it.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
It's amazing how easy it is to clean silver. I
was discovering this the other day. We've got a lovely
set at home of cutlery and you just get a
little clot out, you get your gloves, you got your
cleaning silver gloves, get your cleaning silver gloves out and
you polish them up before you make beautiful silver cuplany.

Speaker 9 (14:40):
Just wait me when this is over. Please.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Now we're going to have a look at the New
Zealand economy and several guys is this morning our centrics
have got their credit report out. The alarmists at the
Herald have gone with the big headline that we've got
thousands more people in trouble. When you actually look at
the numbers, things have stabilized nicely. It's not all that bad.
So we'll give you a reality check on that in
just a couple of moments. That's after the News, which

(15:05):
is next here. News Dogs said that.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
The Mike host game would be insightful. We have been
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Speaker 2 (15:20):
Dogs head be, we'll get you to Catherine shortly. I'm
more interested, to be honest, in France at the moment,
on the smoke free band which is coming and what
effects it will have or not have, as the case
may be. But they do seem to be a bit
obsessed with the weather at the moment. I can't work
out whether we're more obsessed with whether because the weather's
become a thing and therefore each season we go, h

(15:40):
tell you what's going to be amazing. Anyway, We've got
a record number of heat alerts across France. Eighty four
of the ninety six departments they call the mainland regions
are currently under an Orange alert. Excuse me, I'm just
dying quietly in the background, so that, according to the
Climate Minister, is unprecedented. Also got warnings in Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany,

(16:02):
the UK and the Balkans including Croatia under the SIA
yesterday was forty six point six. Now, oh, grant you
have forty six. Anything over forty is weird. Especially in
June they got two hundred school across France been closed
or partially the places. But they're sort of exercised about
Britain and they really shouldn't be a mean slow thirties
and it's only in the southern part of the country.
The top part of the country our suns in Scotland,
he's not feeling it. He says, it still rains every day.

(16:24):
Let me give you an update on the Senate and
the big beautiful bill. They've begun voting. And when I
say they've begun voting, they've begun excuse me arguing. Could
be up to twenty hours of debate, so they're expecting
the Democrats to use all ten of those hours. The
Republicans are not going to full Senate vote either late tonight,
and when I say late tonight, it's early afternoon there,

(16:46):
so maybe in the next six to eight hours, if
not in the early hours of Tuesday morning. At that point,
they've only got they can only lose three votes. As
the point. If they lose three, jd Vance comes into plan.
He's got a tie breaking vote. They lose more than three,
they're finished. If they get it through, that then goes
back to the House of Reps. And that vote could

(17:07):
be as early as Wednesday morning, their time, which is Thursday,
and they've got to tie this thing up allegedly theoretically
by the time they go away on the fourth of July.
So we'll see where that goes. Meantime, Tom tell us
if you missed that yesterday he voted against it, and
upon voting against he's a Republican, he said, I quit.
I won't be going for reelection, so it's not a

(17:29):
hard choice. I'm going home to see the family and
I'll thoroughly enjoy it. Twenty one minutes away from seven. Yes,
a business right, Let's have a look at the state
of the place with new data the chows. When it
comes to credit areas, things look stable, but a jump
in the company is going under apparently. Monica Lacey is
a COO Atcentrix and as well US Monica Morning to you.

Speaker 15 (17:53):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
I'm trying not to be too alarmist about this. The
hero's got an alarmist sort of headline, and sort of
sick of alarmist headlines. It doesn't appear people in mortgage areas,
for example, has never been and doesn't appear to be
correct me if I'm wrong to be that bad. It's
one point something percent, which means ninety eight points something
percent of doing fine. Is that fair or not?

Speaker 15 (18:13):
That's totally fair. Look, I think that's the headline number
definitely portrayed in that way can look quite bad. But
when you take the context of the situation, we're actually
seeing area's rates for the fist consecutive months in a
row below last year's levels, which is a really positive sign,
and I think that definitely makes a trend. So I
think that's really important to take into consideration. There's no

(18:36):
doubt that people are doing it tough out there, but
it's really a small percentage of the population and things
are starting to get a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
When we get to this credit demand thing, I'm always
it's up nine percent. Business credit demand that is, is
that people wanting money because they're aballish and they want
to expand. Or is it people in trouble who need
some cash.

Speaker 15 (18:56):
It's probably a combination, to be honest, people might be
shopping around for better rates if there's difficulty and cash
flozed situation. So it's not just one thing that's made
up of lots of different components.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Liquidations up twenty seven percent. Is this the last cab
off the rank? In other words, the id's toughening up,
they're going through the funding some people that weren't fluid anyway,
and they're tidying matters up. Or are things a bit
ugly there?

Speaker 15 (19:22):
It's definitely a lag effect, And I think if you
cast your mind back to COVID, most credit providers really
altered their collections treatment for many customers, whether you're a
band or a power company, things got a little bit
softer over that period. So I think it is just
a continuation of a bit of a tidy up of
all of that historic debt that's sitting there.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
How would you describe the state of the economy as
you see it this morning?

Speaker 15 (19:48):
I heard someone on your show actually recently describe the
economy as we're bouncing along the bottom and I think
that's a really app.

Speaker 16 (19:55):
Wace to describer.

Speaker 15 (19:56):
It just feels like we can't quite get.

Speaker 16 (19:57):
A leg up.

Speaker 15 (19:58):
So I'd like to I hope that as we're coming
to spring, and you know, we're really relying on consumer
sentiment to try and drive things. So hopefully with lower
infrastrates out there and a bit more positivity, one might
start to say some changes.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Let us hope. So, Monica, nice to talk to you.
Go well, Monica Lacy, who's the chief operating officer at Centrix.
It is it's the psychological asn't I keep saying it
on this program. I mean that it's there, but this
SURVIVEDAL twenty five thing is not quite as real as
we thought it would. But they keep relying. My question
is this and this is as political as much as
anything as and I'm thinking July they got to cut

(20:35):
the Reserve Bank twenty five points. I'm thinking August they
got to cut twenty five points. But if they don't,
then what And if we're relying on the cheaper money
from the banks and we don't spend because we're too
busy paying the insurance bill and the rates and the power,
then what eighteen to two the mic.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
I was just trying to work out why I was choking.
I think it's the almonds. I've got hazel nuts, and
hazel nuts are a little bit loose around the edge
in terms of a cover, so it could be the
hazel nuts, could be the almonds. I've got walnuts, brazil nuts.

Speaker 9 (21:18):
It's an interesting question.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, macadamia, you have any cashews in there? I hate those,
but they're not a problem.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
You go for the cashws first, don't you go.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
For the cashes in the brazils? But I think it's
the almonds all the I just I want to want
to if I need to get rid of them, because
I don't want to choke anymore on it. That's all
makes for bad radio, as indeed does this probably six forty.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
How hot are you?

Speaker 17 (21:50):
Catherine?

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Come on? Tell us is at the end of the world.

Speaker 18 (21:53):
It certainly does feel like it's the apocalypse.

Speaker 19 (21:56):
Spoke.

Speaker 18 (21:57):
I have to tell you you can hear me because
I've just led over and switched off the fan. That's
been on beside me all day. It has been absolutely
extreme temperatures here the last few days. I mean it's
look at it Spain, highest ever temperature forty six degrees
in southern Spain. Yet we have heat waves summer. This

(22:18):
is true, but there's never been temperatures this high so
early in the summer, or this high generally. I mean
Monday was the hottest June day in France. Ever, they
say it's only going to get worse by Tuesday lunchtime.
It's going to get up to around forty forty one degrees.
The warnings are just intense, like you know, extreme heats.

(22:40):
So there's going to be health alerts, wildfire alerts, just
telling people stay indoors that this is going to be uncomfortable,
watch out for forest fires, and just the rest of
the news is get used to it because it's going
to be a long summer.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
That was my next question. So you're not going up
and up and up. In other words, by the time
you get July and August, you're not going to have
forty nine. But presumably what you're talking about is a
lot of hot days over an extended period of time,
and that will wee you down, well.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Wear down.

Speaker 18 (23:09):
I mean you're already seeing it make you. We've had
what four days of this, People already getting a little
grudge here with one another. It's fine if your work
of regular hours and you can be like me and
go and walk your dogs at two o'clock in the
morning and meet all the neighbors and have a good chat.
But other people have to go to good work, go
wherever it is they work. Not all places have the airkns,

(23:31):
so on that respect, it is bad that you also
have to remember this has come after a very dry winter.
You had a dry spring, so the ground is already
pretty parched. And that's why they're saying, not just here
in France, but Spain, Ehaly, Greece, Turkey, there will be
forest fires. Just be really careful.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
What's it doing. And I worry about the grapes. You're
picking about September and a grape like stress. But I'm
thinking if you didn't have much water and winter, and
you know, the egric culture must be affected by all this.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
It really is.

Speaker 18 (24:03):
I mean, now we're starting to see not just agriculture
affected by climate change, but also by global conflict. Look
at what we've got We've got Poland and Ukraine, the
world's leading grain exporters, Europe's bread basket. They've been in
drought now for more than three months. They had a
very dry winter, they had a dry spring as well.

(24:25):
So we're going to be this time next year, we're
going to be looking at really high grain prices elsewhere. Already,
traffic along the Rhine River is down because the water
levels are down. You've got barges, vessels that are unable
to sail fully loaded, some of them about forty to
fifty percent loaded.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
What does that mean?

Speaker 18 (24:44):
That means the grain, the minerals, the oil that they're
taking along the Rhine that's going to be more expensive
by the time it gets to the consumer.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
The smoking band that came in yesterday, today, whatever date
you're on, is is there much debate around that or
are you just joining many other parts of the world
that is well?

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Is it is?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
What it is?

Speaker 9 (25:02):
Really?

Speaker 11 (25:02):
I mean, there's been a.

Speaker 18 (25:03):
Couple of complaints about it, but it was just really
putting in place what a lot of local councils had
already been doing. You know, you go to the beach
and people were smoking beside you, and people didn't like it,
and it was really just regularizing a situation that in
the summer months was a little bit unpleasant for.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Okay, these scientists who have parked themselves under the science asylum,
how many are there? And do you think they'll stay?
And what are they doing? And you know, are they hot?

Speaker 18 (25:29):
They well, yes, at the moment, the first aid have arrived.
They're down at the University of Ex Marseilles, which is
one of France's largest universities. The first of twenty from
the United States that've arrived. They're going to be doing health,
climate science, astrophysics, those sorts of subjects. There will eventually
be twenty down there. For those twenty places. At one

(25:51):
university they received three hundred applications from American researchers. That
particular university is putting up around million New Zealand dollars
to attract these researchers. There will be other universities that
are looking as part of this asylum possibilities for researchers
from America. The French government has put in total around

(26:13):
two hundred million New Zealand dollars to get these researchers
to bring their knowledge to France and the hope that
the knowledge they bring will help the economy, will help
society in general.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
H we wish them well. Go well, Catherine stay called
Catherine Field in France. A hot France. It's nine to
eight done.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
The my casking Breakfast with a Vida. Retirement communities use
tom tad.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
B Mit Karp has gone for the season. Luke can't kick,
but he can run well. He's getting better at the
kicking Warriors anyway, torn acl Ermmm, still a year. Don't
worry about it. So the UK trade deal, it's another
thing that comes in today. It's good for cars with
the US of course, good for cars. They still don't

(26:58):
know about the steel they still. Trump is suing, just breaking, developing,
whatever you want to call it. He's suing Los Angeles.
He's suing Karen Bass, and he's suing the city council
over sanctuary city policies. The ordinance violates the Constitution because
it hinders the enforcement of immigration laws. I assume investors sue,
then everybody else's a sanctuary city. He also said yesterday

(27:20):
he's rounded up a couple of rich people to buy TikTok,
and that's the third time he's had to delay the
sale of TikTok. If he couldn't sell it, he was
going to ban it. But the queue hearers, I'll tell
you in about two weeks who they are. Now that's
a trick. He says that a lot. When he's in
trouble and he doesn't know what to say, he goes,
ask me in two weeks, ask me in two weeks.

Speaker 9 (27:40):
Or we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
We'll see what happens. And I've asked me in two weeks.
So I don't think he's got anything with TikTok. Five
minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
If one the film it's banking cash global opening over
the weekend pulled in one hundred and forty four million.
Is that good? Pretty good? Number one and thirty six
hundred places around the world. Biggest three day opening the
weekend for an original film since the height of the pandemic.
Biggest opening of an Apple original, Pitt's most successful opening weekend.
That's good because his other one was one hundred and
twelve million four World War Z. That was back in

(28:17):
twenty thirteen. They cost a lot to make those the
problem turned fifty million dollars for production and marketing, so
at one forty four there's still not making any dough.
But it's early days so far. For twenty five marbles
first Biggie the Captain America eighty nine, Thunderbolt seventy four,
Mickey seventeen nineteen, Snow White forty two, Sinners forty eight,
they accounted two twenty five. So the only two films

(28:39):
to beat f one so far this year are The
Minecraft Movie at one sixty two and Lelo and Stitch
at one forty six. So it's the third biggest, but
it'll climb, although I did see some numbers the other day.
What I find fascinating about films is it really is
opening weekend once the numbers in the second weekend. In
the third weekend plummets off a cliff, So your big

(29:00):
is done on opening day. And those are the people
these days ago to the movies, and it's very few
people comparatively speaking that go, oh yeah, forgot about that.
I'll go this weekend. By the way, if you want
to watch something interesting, which I did yesterday while I
was on the stationary bike martin Brundle, Brad Pitt and
Lando Norris in Austin at the racetrack. Brundle drives Lando's

(29:23):
twenty twenty three F one car and Pitt drives Lando's
twenty twenty three F one car. They go out in
a McClaren seven fifty, yes for a start, just for funsies.
But then they get into the F.

Speaker 9 (29:35):
One car and what is Lando drive?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Lando's standing on the side of the track hoping his
car doesn't crash. But I'll tell you what Pitt can drive,
and it's quite something. And Brundle still drives F one
cars on a fairly regular basis, but Pitt can drive.
He's a genuine tellent. News for you in a couple
of moments. They're opening up a new police college today,
the second police college in Auckland. If you build it,
will they come? The police Commissioner for you.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
News opinion and everything in between. The mic hosting Break
Bend with the Defender Actor the most powerful defender ever made,
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Speaker 2 (30:09):
Calling seven past seven. So a lot going on in
the crime and justice space this week. One punch laws
to talk about shortly, but also today we've got the
new police college opening the Royal New Zealand Police College
Auckland campus will have its ribbon cutive. In fact, there
is a ribbon. The Police Commissioner, Richard Chambers is with
us on this Richard Morning.

Speaker 16 (30:25):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Is there a ribbon?

Speaker 16 (30:28):
Well, I suspect there may be. There will certainly be
a plaque.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Is this got a we should have done this years ago?
Vibe about it?

Speaker 16 (30:37):
Well, look, we had done it before, Mike, not for
some years. But you know, we are obviously putting through
a lot of recruits at the moment, and I know
that over the years some people have steered away from
a career in the police because you're traveling down to
our parier college for twenty weeks. Since it's quite a
challenge for some family. So this is about creating opportunities
for those that might find for twenty weeks a challenge

(31:01):
and a bit more local. So the forty that we
have getting underway today, thirty three of those are from
tom Kimikoto and seven of them are from Norton.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah. I was going to ask, so what are you doing?
Are we getting more police or are we just getting
the same number of police shuffled about in two different
locations around the country.

Speaker 16 (31:18):
Well, any one wing we can manage up to one
hundred recruits and the reason for that is that our
numbers per recruit and our trainers is very important. We
can't overwhelm the trainers. We need to be able to
create opportunities for one on one as best we can.
So the more recruits we have, the less that personal time.
So we operate to a maximum one hundred. So yesterday

(31:39):
we had sixty start in Pariu College and today we
had forty up here in Auckland. But right now we
had five wings going through. So we have four wings
down in Pari Rua and at the moment, over three
hundred and fifty recruits are training to join New Zealand place.
And I don't remember a time where we've had so
many recruits training at any time.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Encourage Why are they? Is this the promotion? Is this
the noise around it?

Speaker 5 (32:03):
Or what?

Speaker 11 (32:05):
Look?

Speaker 16 (32:05):
I mean, I've been around for thirty years and policing
fantastic career and there's no doubt there are so many
thousands more out there to join. Can very keen to
join these in a police and we have been putting
a lot of effort into our recruitment. We've got a
five hundred more come in our way, as you know,
and we're working really really hard to recruit when you
have thousands in the pipeline. But we take very seriously

(32:27):
our recruitment process, and of the ten who say may
apply to join police, we actually only get one coming
to the college because we have very intensive expectations, you know,
processes be the physical, medical, or academic. So it sounds
like quite a low number ten percent, but you know,

(32:48):
we do have standards in place which is on as
you know, determined to ensure we look.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Up to the legal stuff that we're talking about this week,
the one punch of the discounts and courts, all of
that sort of stuff the government to move on.

Speaker 20 (33:00):
Does this help you, Well, look, our job, Michael, is
to enforce the law, whatever the law is, and we
certainly welcome the new coward punch laws. I mean, you
know in New Zealand people have lost their lives as
a consequence of coward punches when victims are distracted and
you know can't defend themselves. And you know, appreciate the

(33:21):
some perspectives out there, but neither day will.

Speaker 17 (33:23):
Enforce the law.

Speaker 16 (33:24):
And we have some tragedies in our own country through
coward punches.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
All right, rich appreciate your time very much. Richard Chambers,
who's the police commissioner, willis speaking which tenant, it's past
seven tasking. They're also called king hits of course in Australia,
and there's a new law around this. So what they're
doing is introducing a culpable homicide offense for the one
punch attack that results in death. Maximum penalty there for life,
a walk without fear of trust. They've long campaign for this,
of course, Mike Ango as a board member of that

(33:50):
particular trust and as well as Mike Mourning.

Speaker 21 (33:51):
To you, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Have they got it about right? The government?

Speaker 21 (33:56):
Look, I think so, you know, it brought really simply
the previous laws mixed up within the GBH laws with
a lot of precedencyt in too many discounts being been given.
Meant with the coward punch wasn't recognized for its potential lethality,
which it has been now and further to that, just

(34:17):
understanding how lethal it is and making it very very
clear that this is no king hit. This is exactly
what we're talking about, which is a potentially lethal coward punch.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
So it's the punishment as opposed to the distance center
because I can't believe somebody's out there going, oh, well,
I was going to whack you, but now I'm not
because I might end up in jail for longer. That's
not how it works, is it.

Speaker 21 (34:41):
Look, and I've said this previously, I think what you
have to have this in conjunction with, which is education,
particularly starting it at school level, and that's what we're
heavily involved in as well. You can't have a big
stick if you're not also educating people around the culture
of violence, around the danger that the card punch can cause.

(35:02):
So those things should work hand in glove. What I
think politically is people get two head up and too
fixed to one idea that just being purely punitive doesn't work.
But at the end of the day, I don't think
anyone would argue that if you're attacking someone with a
knife or a gun, that has a high degree of
lethality associated with it. When you're hitting someone when they

(35:24):
do not know a punch is coming, or with our
blind shot, it has a high degree of permanent damage
and lethality about it, and no one would argue that
if you had lethal intent, okay, and we need to
understand and we need to introduce this into our thinking
that that kind of act has lethal intent, then there's
really no excuse.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Good on you. Might I appreciate time, Mike Anger, who's
with the Walk without Fear? Trust? It is twelve minutes
past seven past, Mike. You're deluded if you think the
Warriors can win this year without Metcalf and they'll be
lucky to make the top eight. You'll heard it first here,
Thank you Caine. Mike. It was our year until the
wheel nuts came loose? What is it? Thank you, Craig.
What is it about the Warriors that you hate on

(36:04):
them so much? Why don't we want more success the news?
Have you missed it this morning? As metcalfs out for
the season because he's done his knee. Why don't we
want more success? Why can't we revel in the possibility
of success? Why can't we enjoy what they're actually doing
so far without writing off an entire season at the
first sign of bad news? Mike reschool attendance figures last Friday.

(36:25):
If the ministry officials wanted to know where the students were,
they only needed to go out to our international airports
to find the answer. Yeah, I just wanted. David Seawall
was on later on the Fairies. But as a minister
who has been in charge of this business of turning
up to school, it's interesting I got sent a social
media post from a principle yesterday as regards last week,

(36:45):
Please be safe out there today far now the weather
looks bad for the whole day. It's understandable if you
want to keep your tamaiki home today, just ring the
office and let us know that you want to keep
them at home due to weather conditions. Now, when I'm
assuming that's either from the office or principle or both.
When you've got that sort of attitude going on at school,
plus the holidays, plus the wheather plus the attitude, is

(37:07):
it any wonder the education system is where it is?
Fourteen past seven The like.

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looking good faith is still sky high? Well glad to
hear at seventeen past seven, right. The other thing that
happens today July one, first official day of ourn you
invest in z initiative. This is the Investment Attraction Agency
Laura only got passed by Parliament last week. Now Simon
bridges Auckland Chamber of Commerce bosses with us, Simon morning.

Speaker 21 (37:38):
Good Ay, Mike.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I can't work out whether this is a thing that
one we should have already been doing years ago, and
two doesn't everyone else have one anyway? And is it
going to make any difference at all?

Speaker 22 (37:49):
That's yes to all of those things. I mean the
reality of you know, I think your good points is
we had suboptimal settings and now we're getting better settings.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Are they world leading?

Speaker 17 (37:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Not on your life.

Speaker 22 (38:00):
But I tell you what we have got with these
changes is impeccable timing. Right we're changing this stuff. Is
the world's turning increasingly to custard. You've got North Americans
wanting to exit trump Land. You've got thousands. I mean
I saw one media report thirty thousand, which sounds overblown,
but British millionaire is wanting to leave because of high tex.
You've got Chinese who've poured money into Singapore that still

(38:21):
want to get into an even safe haven. So I
think I think it's really good timing. And I think.
The other thing I would say is in New Zealand,
there is definitely, I mean, I said, in Auckland in
the marketplace, real enthusiasm and excitement about this. Because if
you just say a thousand retin new residents paying somewhere
between five and ten million, let's say seven and a

(38:41):
half million each, well, they have seven and a half
billion dollars. So the flow and effects from that if
they're investing in a startup, and you know, the startup
gets a new office and pay some lawyers and accountants
and buy some takeaway coffees, it has a real effect
on the economy.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
How much is this just awareness? In other words, Oh,
I didn't think of New Zealand as we are genuinely attractive.

Speaker 22 (39:03):
I think, truthfully it's both of those things. I mean,
I do think, you know, this is world according to
Simon stuff. But I believe for some time our biggest
strategic disadvantage over the last couple of hundred years has
been with the most isolated kind of developed country in
the world.

Speaker 19 (39:19):
You know.

Speaker 22 (39:20):
At the moment, though, as I say, in the world
we live, and that becomes I think quite a strong
strategic advantage. We have all the things you know.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
All of law.

Speaker 22 (39:27):
You know, not bad weather, but nice scenery, actually decent people,
all of that stuff. So I think it's there, but
that the settings aren't bad. You know, we had poor
settings for a while there, and you saw it in
the numbers. You know, it was sort of a billion
dollars a year of in wood investment and then it
went to sort of fifty million. So there's just no
reason why we can't get up into the billions again.

(39:47):
And I think with this we will that the immigration
always and advisors are very excited. They're they're out there
getting inquiries every day.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I talk every week.

Speaker 22 (39:56):
I'm not exaggerating to someone who's setting up a new fund,
a property fund, an infrastructure fund with something to try
and take some of this money. So yeah, I think
it's it's a real bright line in our economy.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Good stuff. Nice to catch up. Simon bridges Auckland Business
Chamber CEO with us this morning speaking winners. Ryan Fox.
Haven't had him on the program since you went on
that mad tear of success, and so he's aiming he's
on a break week in Florida, lives in Florida these days.
He's on a break week and he's heading to eventually Ireland,
which is where they're holding the open. He's going to
do the Scottish opent then the Major the Open, so

(40:32):
he'll be with us after eight o'clock, so we'll look
forward to that catch up. Seven twenty.

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such an awklanndition, isn't it. Helicopters. I love helicopters by
the way I've flown, and a lot of helicopters now

(41:47):
places on a flight path north people who go to
the Bay of Islands and to the flash golf courses
north of Aalkland. They fly over our place on a
sunny Saturday. They start maybe four six thirtyish in summer
on a still You can hear them coming maybe thirty
seconds before you might see them. And because I like them,
I've never understood why, you know, for example, the y
Hecki moners who can't stand and want them banned on

(42:09):
the island. A helicopter to me is full of people
going places, you know, tourists and golfers. These are people
we like and people we want. Anyway, if you haven't
followed the story. Eli Williams once in all Black and
Ana Mobray, part of the Zuru clan, are a couple
and they got a house in Westmere, which is an
inner city suburb if you're listening outside of Auckland. They
applied to land their helicopter at their place. Que the horror.

(42:33):
Far too much money and time has been spent on
this whole issue. Fourteen hundred submissions, that's right, one thousand,
four hundred submissions. But what was mad about it was
one A number of submissions submitted said that they had
no view. You can't make the stuff up. The number
of people who were clearly bored out of their brains
is unbelievable. Too many a submission against their use of

(42:55):
a chopper in suburbia came from people who don't even
live in Auckland, not only not not close to the
landing pad, but not even in the same city, i e.
It's got nothing to do with you. So lawyers, council staff, submissions, hearings,
Lord knows how many hoursand dollars, and as you will
have heard, Williams and Mowbray one they can land at

(43:15):
their place two times a day, no more than ten
times a month. There is nothing said the commissioners untoward,
unacceptable or significantly out of character with helicopter noise, which
I think is fair enough. But two questions, One, how
many god exercised do you reckon out of petty jealousy? Oh,
they're rich, so we don't like rich people doing rich

(43:35):
people's stuff, so we'll complain about it. And two how
unpopular do you reckon? It makes them locally? And I
suppose question number three do they care? There is, of
course the precedent that's been set now suburbia and choppers
are now apparently no big deal. Very Auckland asking, Oh
my gosh, I'm in my eighties. It's not me talking.

(43:57):
I'm in my eighties and would never have considered not
going to school. Rain Hale or Shine can't believe that
a school principle would send out a message suggesting they
may need to stay at home. No wonder school attendance
where it is gay you quite run. I met another
eight year old yesterday as in the wine shop when
sow my mate Sebastian at the wine shop, which brings
me to the health problem that I don't have time
to tell you about. But I will later maybe anyway,
so later.

Speaker 9 (44:18):
To your inability to tune nuts that suddenly come on
this morning.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
No, actually no, complete it could be well could but
if that's medical yet new anyway. So I'm standing at
the wine shop yesterday and the day as a walking
the door lady turns around from the country. He goes, oh,
I know you, which is what a lot of people
say to me. And then there's nothing really you can
do apart from that, go do you or oh? I
mean obviously you don't want to say well, of course
you do. I'm Mike Hosking, because that would just be stupid.

(44:44):
So you go, oh, well, that's nice, and then they
sort of go and confirm who you are, which is
also slightly uncomfortable. Then they go I love your show.
Now I've got a prerehearsed answer to that, which is
always oh, that's very nice of you, thank you so much.
And that makes me sound humble, which my wife constant
tells me to be. She goes, if you're going out
in public, please please.

Speaker 9 (45:04):
Be saying something to deliberately sound humble. Does that kind
of defeat the purpose?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Or I don't know, but because I say it a lot,
I don't want it to sound rehearsed like ah. He
says that to everybody that sounds rehearsed, because then that
would not make me sound humble, It would just make
me sound like the prac that you clearly just endured
for the last thirty seconds. Anyway, I've now run out
of time on the story.

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Speaker 2 (45:39):
Heead be, well, you might appreciate your alternate view to
the helipad was not the alternate view to the helipad
because the people who wanted the helipad won. They got
a helipad. Therefore it's the majority view, isn't it. Anyway,
Another submission result of over ninety percent support has resulted
in a faster motorway speed being approved, which is good
news for you. Yes it is, But your point being
that ninety per send to the people who wanted the helipad.

(46:02):
I didn't want the helipad. So that then brings in
the question do you go with volume? Is a submission
process about volume or is it about quality. What you know,
if you just have a pile on as that democracy
and you go well, democratically speaking, you had to add
your chance to have a say, and we had to say,
or do you look for some sort of reason? I
actually thought, as much as I'm sure that if you

(46:23):
live in Westmere and you're next door to Ali Williams's house,
you go and going why do I need a helicopter
or not? I thought the points the Commission has made,
if youre going to spend time, energy and money looking
at something as ludicrous as this, at least make relevant points.
I thought they made relevant points. Twenty two minutes away
from eight five box back after eight this morning, none
of my costing breakfast. Meantimelet's look at well it looks
like the doors open to some sort of part privatization

(46:45):
of the new ferries across the Strait. Cabinet has had
a word apparently after Winston Peter seems to have changed
his mind around the matter, and the Deputy Prime Minister,
the David Seymore, he likes it and he's all for it,
and he's with us. A very good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (46:57):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
May you'd know about submissions, wouldn't you with your regulation
and your Regulary Standards Bill. I've never seen this is
immediately off topic, very poorly conducted interview. I've never seen
a subject that's so dry been having so many people
exercised about it.

Speaker 19 (47:16):
Well, I heard someone say, never have so many been
exercised by so few on so little substance. But if
I could just get one thing across about these so
called submissions, I think the public submitting on legislation to
Parliament as a critical part of the democratic process. But
it's supposed to be by people that have read the legislation,

(47:37):
understood it and has something constructive to add. What's actually
happened this one hundred thousand or so Greenpeace set up
a website. They give you a place to put your name,
and then they give you four statements about the Regulatory
Standards Bill which are false, invite you to click one
of those, and then you agree, and then you have

(47:57):
a pre formed submission without ever having touched the bill
or understood it. And of course that's somehow called democracy.
It's actually a perversion of democracy, and it's mainly designed
so Greenpeace can get your email address.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Okay, fairies, how far is this got.

Speaker 19 (48:14):
Well, Winston Peters has got the baton on this. It's
his job to go out and find the boats, to
make sure that they're going to line up with the terminals,
which is the problem that the previous government got itself into.
And once he's done that Cabinet will sign it off
and we should have by the end of the decade
some shiny new fairies, just in time for the current

(48:36):
ones to become obsolete.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Do we care who owns them?

Speaker 19 (48:41):
Well, I certainly do, because this government is facing pretty
tough times with debt. Frankly, it's not our fault, it's
not the previous government's fault. It's everyone's fault. But for
too long we've been far too lax about government capital.
As a result, you know, we have the choice. We
can own a two billion dollar fairry business and if

(49:03):
the government's paying five percent interest, that's one hundred million
every year. Now it's there to be making at least
one hundred million to pay that back. But sadly, most
government businesses are making a loss on average. They're making
a huge loss across the board. And if people are
worried about the cost of living, which I certainly am, well,
the biggest cost that people have. A third of the

(49:25):
economy is government. If you add on councils, it's two
fifths of the economy. And I think it's time for
some honest conversations given government's track record of being hopeless
at maintaining hospitals, hopeless with the state housing portfolio, owning
a whole lot of businesses that lose money every year?
Do we want to keep spending nine billion in total

(49:45):
on interest payments on debt for assets that aren't performing.
Because if they want to do that, they can, but
it's not going to make the boat go faster.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
No, it is not. Is that you held across government
or would somebody like you have a battle on that.

Speaker 19 (50:00):
Let's say that. I think there's ideology and there's reality.
I have long had the philosophical view that government is
not a good operator of commercial enterprises, and there's no
shortage of evidence for that. But the reality will be
much more persuasive to whoever's in government. You've got to
balance the books, and at the moment we own too

(50:22):
many underperforming assets. We are really struggling as a result.
The New Zealand people who fund the government as taxpayers
are struggling and there's going to have to be a reckoning.
The alternative is people young and talented keep looking further
afield for opportunity, and I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
No, that is quite right. I read out a thing
from Principle on this is yet another subject on school holidays,
no one turning up because it was rainy, and and
we're all et cetera. C Are you losing that battle
of getting kids to school?

Speaker 19 (50:53):
No, every term that I've been in charge of attendance,
we've had better stats than before. We're up almost ten
points on where we were in twenty twenty three, so
we are actually winning. However, I mentioned I actually tweeted
that it was sent to my electorate office by a youth,
a police officer who really cares about this topic. And

(51:17):
his text message back to the person was a face palm.
Because when you've got presumably a principle, we haven't identified
them telling people, you know what, it's a bit rainy,
school's not a priority. That message goes out through the
community and it lets down all the good principles and
educators who are sending the right message. But unfortunately education

(51:39):
has gone down the totem polem. And you look at
the floods here at Auckland. You know, two years ago
there was no reason for ninety five percent of students
not to physically go to school. In the aftermath of that, however,
only Auckland Grammar and Stanley Bay Primary actually stayed open.
They surveyed their people and it was fascinating. The teachers

(52:01):
all said it was far too dangerous to open. The
parents said that they had to. So there's got to
be a transformation and attitude, because if we don't pass
knowledge on from one generation to the next, doesn't matter
how many fairies we own, we're cooked.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Couldn't agree more. I was reading Business desk this morning.
Let me ask you this, once again out of left field.
Is there a merger between Ministry of Transport, Ministry of
Housing and Urban Development in the Ministry of Environment as
driven by Brian Roche, in other words, squeezing some people together.

Speaker 19 (52:28):
Well, I don't know the answer to that. You'd have
to ask Chris Bishop, who's the minister of most of
those things. However, I do know that Brian Roche has
pretty hot to Trump. He's recognizing that there are too
many departments, too many ministers, and too many lines of accountability.
I happen to have given a speech saying exactly that
myself about two months ago, so I'm hardly going to protest.

(52:52):
If that is happening, then there won't be much resistance
from me.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Good stuff. Nice to talk to you. David Seymoor, the
Deputy Prime Minister, Act Leader and Assistant Minister or Associate
Minister of Education. Sixteen away from eight the.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
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Speaker 2 (53:10):
It'd be Mike, how do we get to Seymour as
prime minister? He's just exactly what we need in this country,
common sense and answers every question flawless. Thee serve me
very good with the answers. I'll give you that.

Speaker 9 (53:19):
You just seen Christopher lux into NATO, don't you. That's
how you get him?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Is that how we do it? Who was it got roll?
Was it Bolder? You got rolled with Shipley? Was it
Boldger left the country? Bulger left the country and then
the coup was on. That's what you need. You need
a prime minister out of the country. Back to the
eight year old at the wine shop. So just to
inform you and not bore you, although possibly bore you,
but inform you at the same time. So one I
turned sixty, I go along to the doctor under instruction
from some people who won't be named. So I go

(53:44):
along to the doctor and they poking from me in
that whole let's see how you are and how long
you're gonna live type vibe and and so I do
all of that, and that's mine. Then do the bloods
come back? And bloods are all fine. In fact, the
doctor said to me, go congratulations, might congratulations might wow.
I think he used the word wow. I think he
used the word wow.

Speaker 9 (54:01):
So your hearing didn't come back.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Quite probably not. So I said, look look at the
old cholesterol there. I said, look at that cholesterol. I said,
do you reckon? That could be a bit better. He goes,
it could always be better, Mike. You know, in the
way that doctors talked to you. It could always be better, Mike.
And I said, do you reckon? That could be the drinking,
And he goes, quite possibly. And so that's why I
gave up drinking. When I say gave up drinking, didn't

(54:24):
give up drinking completely, gave up drinking. I only drink
two glasses a week now, one Friday, one Saturday. That
was me. I used to have a glass of wine
every night. Occasionally on a bad day, I'd have two
glasses of wine. Anyway, So I've cut down my drinking
substantially into two glasses of wine per week, with a
view that would improve my cholesterol, or the hope was.
I said, if that's the case, how long will it

(54:44):
take for me to see this? He goes four months
and so right, I said, June. So June, I go
back and get the bloods done the other day, came
back and guess what happened? Nothing? Absolutely nothing.

Speaker 9 (54:57):
So it's a wet July for you.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Then it didn't go up, go down, And all I
could think of was think of all the drinking time
I'd lost. Think of all the drinking time I'd lost
to Can you sue him for that? I don't know what.
It's not his fault, he said, it might do. But
then my wife sent me a story yesterday from the
telegraphs saying all the cancers that are associated with alcohol.
So that's a thing.

Speaker 9 (55:19):
So anyway, so now you've got to go through a
barage of cancer tests, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Presumably, So I don't know what's going on anyway, I
came back from the wine shop with some wine yesterday.

Speaker 9 (55:27):
Yeah, I was to say so, and maybe a brief
on loss of enjoymental life, I would have thought.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
And she said to me, and she was standing at
the kitchen. She goes, how much do you spend on wine?
I said? Why? She goes, because I'm looking at how
much you spent on wine right now on the and
electronically as soon as I spend it, it comes up
on her screen.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
That was another conversation, Sam, do you reckon there's a
way we can funnel some money out of the coffee
account which Mike hasn't been using very much of lately
for more and to a wine account.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
So anyway, it's tear away from.

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Giving away from a new startup for you might end
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Speaker 12 (56:10):
Now.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Danny Purcell is the founder of Basis Smart Panels and
is with us Danny, Morning Morning, Mike. So it's ready
to be installed, which means what how long has the
journey been to get here.

Speaker 17 (56:23):
Oh, I've seen a long journey where well over four
years of product development, testing, prototyping, and yeah, we have
product available in New Zealand sitting with electricians ready to
be installed at homes. It's an exciting step.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
It's supported by an app. So from what I'm reading,
it essentially allows you or tells you what you're using
how you're using it. So you've got some sort of
input into that. Is that right?

Speaker 17 (56:48):
There's absolutely correct. So once the panel's installed, you'll have
full visibility into how electricity is consumed in your house.
Do you understand appliances and how they use but you
also have a really good understanding of the electrical health
of your home. So it's a tremendous amount of information
that our houses contain and the way we use electricity,

(57:08):
and we bring all of that to lights. The customers
can save money and make down safe.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
What's the conversion in the sense that it will cost
me money to do that, and therefore I do save money.
What was it twelve thirteen hundred dollars potentially a year.
Does it pay for itself?

Speaker 17 (57:22):
Yeah, pays itself back pretty quickly. So as an early startup,
launching costs the production will be at their absolute highest.
We would expect the payback period to be around fifteen
to eighteen months for the average customer, and the kind
of delta and cost to a traditional electrical panel being
fully installed is around fifteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
It's three bucks a day, which is twelve hundred dollars annually.
Who's interested? I mean some at three bucks a day,
some are, some aren't.

Speaker 17 (57:52):
Yeah, you're absolutely right, and so from a pure power
savings perspective, you'd be surprised. Power is disproportionately used by
people with higher incomes, and they care about it when
they're exposed to it. I would say I was someone
who didn't really care about it. I've had a panel
in my house and I've already figured out how to

(58:13):
save fourteen hundred dollars a year, and I've acted on that.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
But is that because you're a geek and you go, oh,
if I adjust that turne that on switch, that move
that here is and look at me, aren't I calls
it become a game in that sense.

Speaker 17 (58:26):
I don't think so. I think the actions to save
money are relatively simple and easy. You don't need to
do a lot to save a lot. You just need
to shift a few high loads in your house. You
don't need to monitor it constantly, and it's really just
moving the large, large loads in your home. Like hoult
water use, it's pretty simple. It should be hands off
and it should be run for you.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Fantastic. Are you in a crowded market of people doing
similar things that are you going to bleed here?

Speaker 17 (58:52):
So in the product category, it's absolutely crowded. In the
incumbent world, there is tens of millions of electrical panels
installed around the world every year. We are the first
that has ever digit type digitized safety and this is
really important for electricians. A core part of our founding
story was electrification and rising electricity costs were bringing a

(59:16):
world of pain into the design and installation of system
and an innovation that's you know, world first out of
New Zealand by some incredibly smart engineers, is how we
can figure safety and that's all done through an app
for electrician.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
I like it completely fantastic. Well go well that, Danny,
hope it works in true for you. Danny Purcell, who's
the founder co founder of Basis Smart Panels, Mike my
Mum's ninety five. This year has a wine or two
every day.

Speaker 9 (59:44):
Actually, we've got a bit more on this story later
on in the show. I thank you all the sources
as week.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Out, Ryan Fox, Let's talk golf after the news.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
A dream run. It has been this year since we
lasted Ryan Pox on the show. Winning Gets Winning, which
is what happening Middle Beach Canadian Open, makes him one
of only a handful of people who have won multiple
times on the PGA this year. He's on a short
break before he hits to the UK. Got the Scottish
Open ahead of the Open itself, which is nihil anyway,

(01:00:27):
we'll detail that at the moment. Ryan Fox has well
us Morning Morning, Mike. I don't think we've talked since
you've been so fantastically successful. Is that still sitting lightly
on your shoulders? And life is feeling good?

Speaker 14 (01:00:39):
Life is feeling very good.

Speaker 12 (01:00:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:00:41):
It's been a pretty crazy couple of months, to be honest,
going from trying to figure out where we're going to
play gold Well, where I was going to play golf
next year where we're going to live as a family.

Speaker 17 (01:00:50):
To you.

Speaker 14 (01:00:51):
Being on the PGA Tour for a few more years
now and having a couple of wins and playing my
way into the big events, it's been a just a
bit crazy, really and still trying to come to terms
with it. But it's kind of what I've always dreamed
of wanting to do, so that's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
And watching you and your family are there and they're
at the course, and we heard the story about the
you know, the bunkers and all of that sort of stuff.
What is life like with a family on the road.

Speaker 14 (01:01:19):
It's good to be honest. I mean, you know, taking
two kids around on airplanes the whole time can be
a little bit tedious, especially young ones. But you know,
the tour's got great childcare. Yeah that they for the
most part, they don't. The kids don't know any better.
They used to used to traveling and used to not
being in a routine, so they kind of manage that

(01:01:39):
pretty well for the most part, kind of get excited
when they go to different houses that might have some
new toys that they can play with for a week.
So yeah, it's it's good, you know, I wouldn't recommend
dragging them around every week like we did last year.
That was a little bit tough. But you know, having
a base in Florida this year where we can kind
of pick and choose what tournaments the family come too,

(01:02:00):
has made everything a lot easier in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Is this so you've got to four and two four
year old? Does she get it in any way, shape
or form, do you think or not? Really?

Speaker 14 (01:02:11):
I think she's starting to. You know, after the win
in Canada, she she comes up and goes, Daddy, did
you win? And do you get the trophy? And it
was like, yep, I did. That's so I think there's
a little bit of understanding there.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
Now.

Speaker 14 (01:02:26):
You know, she definitely understands that Dad does golf as
a job, and you know, she's not too disappointed when
I go to golf. Now she knows it's what I
have to do. But you know, I don't think there's
a there's a comprehension of you know, dad plays on
the PGA Tour or what the PGA Tour is, and
you know Dad's on TV every now and again. But yeah,
she's she's definitely understands that golf is what I do.

(01:02:48):
At least now, which is which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
I'm interested to hear you say that the PGA are
good at childcare. So that's that's a thing that they've
worked on.

Speaker 14 (01:02:57):
Yes, Yes, so they have childcare on a Wednesday through Sunday.
You kind of put your kids in for about six
hours a day, and you know, they do lots of activities.
I think the older kids tend to do tend to
do a bit of learning. You know, my daughter's just
learning the letters and how to write and stuff like that,

(01:03:18):
so she's done lots of that. They do obviously, lots
of fun stuff, lots of craft activities, and you know,
the tour generally gets in, you know, various different activities
for them to do during the week. You know, one
day they might have a magician come in, they might
have a visit from a from an animal animal farm

(01:03:40):
or something like that. You know, we've had tournaments where
they've had like kids activities at the zoo where we
can take them to the zoo and have dinner and
go and feed the animals after hours and stuff like that.
So the tour does a really good job of getting
families involved because you know, obviously a lot of us
do have families out there, and it can be pretty
lonely traveling by yourself, so you know, they want to

(01:04:02):
include the families as much as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Does that camaraderie go to the whole tour? Is everybody
sort of in the same boat and therefore sort of
friendly or does somewhere the competition come in there and
will need to be a little bit more distant with
each other.

Speaker 14 (01:04:15):
Everyone's really nice. You know, it can be hard to
make close friends out on tour because everyone kind of
has their own little groups. You know, everyone's got managers
and trainers and caddies and whatever, so everyone is a
bit isolated in that regard. But everyone's really nice. You know,
there's there's an understanding that everyone's doing the same thing.

(01:04:37):
You know, a lot of my wife tends to hang
out with a lot of the foreign players wives. There's
there's kind of some camaraderie there around being away from
home and traveling, and a lot of them have young
kids as well, so there's a lot of bonding over that,
and you know, we have dinner with with them with
you know, other other players and their families during the week,

(01:04:58):
and you know, catch up with for little playdates with
the kids and stuff like that. So it's pretty good
for the most part.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
What are you going to do big picture? I don't
want to turn this into a parenting session, but what
are you going to do a big picture with the kids' education, school,
all of that sort of stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:05:11):
Long term, we're trying to figure that out, to be honest,
you with being over here for a few years now,
schooling systems a little bit different. Our oldest wouldn't start
school in America until like August twenty seven, whereas she'd
start she starts school in February if she was in

(01:05:31):
New Zealand. So we've got a little bit to figure
out there, you know, talking to schools at home and
seeing if we can maybe do a couple of terms
at school in New Zealand, and you know, do do
a couple of terms where she's home, where our oldest
is homeschooled on the road. So yeah, we've got a
little bit to figure out. But at least, you know,
after you know, the success of the last couple of months,

(01:05:53):
we can make those decisions with certainty going forward, which
it makes it easier. It's still not easy, but yeah,
it's there's there's options there at least?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Is that exciting? The ability to be I mean, you
can presumably be anywhere in the world you want to
be as a base. If you have to have a base,
you could be anywhere, couldn't you pretty much?

Speaker 14 (01:06:14):
I mean obviously being playing in the US to it,
it makes sense to be based in the US. So
we're going to be based in Florida just you know,
looking at houses now basically, and we'll have a able
to buy a house over here and be based here
long term. We still want to come back to New Zealand.
New Zealand's always going to be home, you know in

(01:06:34):
the off season where you know a lot of people
tend to head to the Southern states, you know, like
Florida where we are to get away from the weather.
Will do the opposite, will come home and try to
enjoy a bit of a New Zealand summer. But yeah,
it's New Zealand's probably the only place I can't really
be based at full time for what we do, Like
that just makes it travel too hard and I'll be

(01:06:55):
away from home too much of the families at home.
But you know, it is nice to to be able
to be based overseas in that regard, and you know,
try to find a little bit of our home away
from home exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
Hold one more in the moment, Ryan Fox out of Florida,
fourteen past.

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Speaker 12 (01:07:16):
It be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
There'd be sixteen perst. Ryan Fox is with us. Last
time we talked about your success actually and asked you
about the money, and you said, look, it's not all
about the money. But I'll tell you what we've learned
from what you've gone through these last couple of months,
of course, is that success brings choice, doesn't it, And
that's what it's now allowing you.

Speaker 9 (01:07:34):
Yes it is.

Speaker 14 (01:07:35):
And I mean, you know, we're looking at houses here
with no real issue around what we're trying to do.
You know, obviously we're still got a budget and all
of that, but it makes everything just a lot easier
in that regard, and you know, fitting out a house,
all of that stuff just becomes easier. You know, potentially,
if we're going to do schooling for the kids, we

(01:07:55):
can look at a tutor or something like that a
couple of times a week, and all of that stuff
hopefully makes my life easier on the golf course and
can help performance, and as you said, it gives you
options that you know, we can do stuff with the
success I've had, rather than trying to do it bear bones,

(01:08:18):
which you know, I certainly went through that early early
in my career and it was great and it was
a great pathway to get where I'm at. But you've
also got to enjoy you know that the rewards you
get from the success as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I think that's one of life's lessons, isn't it, Because
unless you've had tough times, you can't enjoy the good times.
But they were always good times. You don't know any different, do.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
You, No, you don't. You definitely don't appreciate them. And
as I said, we've had the tough times where I
felt like I wasn't going to play golf, I wasn't
enjoying it, and you know, money was tough, and you know,
you scrape in the bottom of a barrel, staying in
terrible hotel rooms around random areas of Europe, playing on
the Challenge Tour, and you know, now we're kind of
at the opposite end of that, which is really cool.

(01:09:00):
But you know, I've also worked pretty hard to get
to this point, so it's nice to be able to
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I know, if I asked you going into a tournament,
you would go, you know, you're there to win. I
get all of that. But given that you are winning,
do you reset your mindset?

Speaker 12 (01:09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:09:16):
I think that's something I have to do going forward.
You know, I've achieved a couple of dreams, not just
goals I had written down. You know, it was a
dream to win on the PGA Tour, and you know,
I think I've probably struggled without a couple of years
ago when I had a really good year in twenty
two and going into twenty three, I didn't reset and

(01:09:38):
kind of lost the motivation a little bit there. So
I think at the end of the year, when everything
calms down a little bit, it'll be time to actually
sit down and go, Okay, well what do I want
to achieve now going forward? And those are those kind
of goals give you the motivation to keep working hard,
to keep doing what you want, you know, keep trying

(01:09:58):
to achieve things. And you know, that's certainly something I
need to do going forward. But at the moment it's
sort of haven't had a chance to do that. It's
just go in and go to every tournament. No, I
feel like I'm playing really well still and just go that.
I know my good golf is competitive and that's that's
the goal every week, to be competitive and be up
there on a Sunday afternoon fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Next up is the UK and eventually the Open itself.
I looked chat GPT told me you twenty nineteen lowest
back nine at twenty nine at Port Rush. You remember that?

Speaker 14 (01:10:33):
Yes, yes, I got whisked off the golf course my
first round. I'd miss seven cuts in a row leading
into that and had to do a bunch of interviews.
I'm like, why is everyone going crazy? And it was
the lowest lowest back nine and Open history ever, which
I think I still hold, which is kind of a
random little piece of golf in history. And yes, I

(01:10:54):
mean that I scraped by to make the cut and
actually had a pretty good weekend finished sixteen, but it
was it shows how stupid golf is. You know, I've
missed seven cuts in a roll and all of a
sudden shoot will break a hundred and something year old record. Yeah,
it's it's a golf course. I really like at Port rush,
and I'm looking forward to going back. But yeah, twenty

(01:11:14):
nineteen was just a weird week all round.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Imagine winning a major A.

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
Yeah, yeah, I obviously that's that's on the dream list
as well, you know, and obviously what's happened the last,
you know, last eight weeks, I felt out my game's
in pretty good shape to be able to do it.
There's also one hundred and fifty other guys in the
field that are pretty damn good and trying to do
the same thing. So, you know, as as I said
a couple of questions ago, you know, the goal is

(01:11:42):
to get myself in contention come Sunday afternoon and kind
of anything can happen there. And yeah, we'll see. I'm
looking forward to the next couple of weeks. I love
links golf, I love that part of the world up
in Scotland and Northern Ireland. So yeah, it'll it's going
to be a good couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Well, I hope so. And we'll be following as always.
Good to catch up with you might appreciate it very much.
Ryan Fox out of Florida. This morning, it's a twenty one.

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(01:13:14):
a pro golf Well, I'm glad you're like that. Great
interview with Ryan. My understanding how he ticks poor Luke
what a sod, but we still have faith in the team.
The Luke references Metcalf who's been He's gone for the
rest of the season. Mike, fantastic interview with Ryan as
the new Zealander. I'm so proud of and what he's
achieved on and off the golf course. Yes, no, he's
an awesome blake. Authoroughly enjoyed it, and I do remember

(01:13:36):
when you said about the business of the money and
the shanky hotels and stuff like that. I do remember
interviewing at times and he sounded down and I thought,
you know, the trick to success, especially at that level
elite sport, is it's all in your head and if
you're not feeling on top of your game, then it
makes it very hard work. Mike, I spent nine years
on a hearings committee in Marlborough. It's a long time

(01:13:57):
and a hearings committee, and I can come to inform
you that a precedence can no longer be used in
future cases as there has been a case showing that
every situation is different. Andy, thank you for that. I
appreciate that. I don't believe you because I can see
what you're saying, and maybe it's got a rural slash
provincial vibe to it, and every case is individual. But
what I can tell you, I am sure, is that

(01:14:19):
if you get the permission to land a helicopter in
suburban Auckland, then the next person who comes along and goes,
I want to land a helicopter in suburban Auckland is
not really going to be that different from Ali Williams
and landing his helicopter is. I mean, it's suburban Auckland.

Speaker 9 (01:14:36):
Well that was the case though. Didn't we have this
whole fath with Rod Duke at one stage.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, he withdrew up though, and he wanted to build
a hut, an electronic hut that would go out and done.
So they were individual circumstances, actually, Glenn see the man
from Alburn might well be right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
I'm against the commercialization of the Island service as it's
an essential piece of infrastructure for New Zealand. So fairpoint.
Are you against the commercialization of a New Zealand which
is also an critical piece of infrastructure? You don't seem
to be because fifty one percent owned by the government
and forty nine percent owned by somebody else, Mike, Dad

(01:15:26):
is one hundred years old Saturday. Brilliant, well done, congratulations.
He still enjoys his daily wine at lunchtime and dinner,
says the Queen. The Queen had four drinks a day
to at lunch to at dinner.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
She probably had quite a big budget for it. I'm
just getting some information from a source who shall remain
anonymous at this point. So is it true that you
agreed a budget for the wine for the holidays? Yes
or no?

Speaker 21 (01:15:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
No, it's just for this trip. I know this is
this good story, so I agreed to budget. I said,
what about I do this? This because my friend Sebastian
sends me a list of wine he's got and I go,
what about this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this,
and she goes, how much is that? And I tell
her a number and she goes, right, fair enough. So
that was fine. We did agree on that.

Speaker 9 (01:16:13):
So is it then true that you then snuck out
quote no, while your domestic manager was out and then
there's sources clean and then you then you doubled the
agreed budget without her knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
The problem was this, I didn't realize that what we'd
agreed to was eleven bottles and the box.

Speaker 9 (01:16:37):
It wasn't a budget, it was a quota, was a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Budget, well, it was a budget, but the budget came
to eleven bottles. I didn't realize it was eleven bottles.
And as I stood there looking at the box, there
was eleven bottles in the box and a box holds twelve,
and I thought that's stupid.

Speaker 9 (01:16:50):
So hang on, So then that doesn't quite marry out
with this bit of information that I've also received from
my sources that you tried to sneak the boxers plural
back into the house while she was gone. No, then,
but then she beat you home and caught you in
the act.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
No, that's not true. Yes, yes, but the problem with
the bot is just the one bottle. The one bottle
turned out because she does, I said, because the one
bottle as a hole in the box. I said, just
filled the bottle. She goes, well, how much was that?

Speaker 9 (01:17:26):
So what do you when I'm seeing the word boxes?

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Well, the other one was that was a separate thing,
so it wasn't part of the original box. So there
were two years. There were two boxes.

Speaker 9 (01:17:36):
But I think we're going to have to go away
and research. We're running out of time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
It's your honor twenty one minutes away.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
From international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Ye so much, Rod morning, Good morning, Mike. I do
want to come to the rebellion in just a couple
of moments. But there seems to be a growing fascination
all over Europe about your weather. Are you and the
aten if you're in the north, how hot is it?

Speaker 12 (01:18:02):
It's too hot, mate, it's too hot. It's about thirty
one it was earlier today, easing off a little bit now, yes,
and we projected thirty five tomorrow, which is a bit much.
That's what I expect in Kuala Lumpa, not really here. Yeah,
it's the killer heat waiver, as the Daily Mail has it.
No one's died, but it is sticky and uncomfortable, and

(01:18:26):
I would imagine London is an absolute hell hole at
the moment because it is such a sweaty city at
the best of times.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
How much of it is I mean thirty one here
is a hot day and in summer it's not dreadfully unusual.
How much of it's about You guys just aren't used
to big heat end Because of that, you don't have
a lot of beer conditioning, all of that versus it
simply being.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
That's very much it. That's very much it. And people
coming to stay in our hotels over here, especially in London,
which you could always add another two or three degrees
on because of London so microclimate, we'll find that very
little air conditioning and very few fans. Yeah, we're not
used to it, and global war warbing means we're gonna

(01:19:10):
have to get more used to it. There's been no
doubt in my mind. You know, I live near the
International Ski Center for England and there's been no snow
for twelve years, so you know it is changing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Okay, so to the House and I was watching that
earlier on and the rebellion and they seem to have
got their way. I mean, what's the point of having
a fabulous large electron victory if half your ranks are gonna,
you know, turn coat on you.

Speaker 12 (01:19:38):
It is very, very difficult to understand. It's how to
imagine a worst first year for a government than this,
And you're absolutely right, massive majority of over two hundred
and yet they seem to be in perpetual rebellion. Meanwhile,
Starma is trying to do the right thing. He is
trying to cut benefits. Goodness me, just five billion to

(01:20:00):
slow down the rate at which they're escalating, and now
it's going to be two point five billion, and still
quite a lot of the rebels aren't happy. So it's
everywhere Kars Starmer turns. It's intractable for him. He can't
either do the right thing anthlease the Parliamentary Labor Party.
He can't chase red Wall votes without alienating the left

(01:20:21):
of votes, and he can't chase the left wing votes
without alienating the Red Wall. He is in a very
very precarious position.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Does he have a caucus that's so large that there
are in fact two Labor parties within it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:35):
He doesn't have a caucus at all. I mean he
is there because he was able to lead the party
after the disaster of Jeremy Corbyn. But there are no
Starma rights in the way that there were Blair rights.
You know, there are just none because it's hard to
imagine what one would believe in if one was a
starm right, because he changes his mind every couple of days.

(01:20:59):
So no, he does have a caucus. What he has
is some good will from large parts of the party
for holding the party together. But seen for the first time,
some senior commentators are saying he's really unborrowed time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
And then the next question, and this is the Bednock question,
I guess, is that they get around Rollingham, who's next?
Who is it? And do they make any difference?

Speaker 12 (01:21:24):
I think it's it's hard to see when you look
at the polls and what the people in the various
areas want, beyond the fact that Labor and the Conservatives
have both kind of been busied making themselves obsolete for
the last five years. You know, the tours are still
in not passing twenty percent in the polls still way

(01:21:47):
down at sixteen percent. They've got four years, of course,
but there seems to be no appetite for the Tories
either Reform has it all and then the Greeds and
the lib Dems.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Then we come to this business of Glastonbury over the weekend.
Did they I mean, I've demands with you talk about
the police of the BBC. But the knee kept was
a build up. I mean the Prime Minister got involved
in knee kept for goodness psych Did they not see
this coming?

Speaker 12 (01:22:15):
No? I don't think they did. It's another terrible, terrible
corporate error. What they should have done was when this
rap duo, Rap grind duo, Bob Villain came on stage
and started saying death to the IDF, just cut transmission
and they've got cameras at every single one of the

(01:22:36):
stages Atlastonbury. Would have been very easy to do, but
they didn't. And it's annoyed to government. It's you know,
enraged Jewish people in this country as well as plenty
of other people besides. And they are in trouble once again.
And you have to say that because it's Israel, because
it's Jewish about the Jewish community as well. They have

(01:22:59):
form on this, you know, they really have bad form.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
On this exactly. And as far as the police are concerned,
they've launched to the criminal investigation. Does anything actually come?
Does somebody get some handcuffs on them in a charge light?
Or where does it go? Do you reckon?

Speaker 12 (01:23:12):
I shudder a little when I see charges like this.
I don't want these people on my television, but nor
do I necessarily want them locked up for saying things
they are. I think they will probably get a sentence
for hate speech and that will mean a long philosophical

(01:23:32):
row over whether saying death to the IDEF is actually
hate speech or not. It's it's very very difficult. The
truth is. You know, there have been bands who said
in century things at Glastonbury before, but not on the stage,
not on the scale of this, and not when it's
directed so clearly at one single community in our country.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Or I might go, well, we'll see if ron Little
out of Britain eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
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Speaker 21 (01:24:06):
At b.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Mike Bob Dylan, a duo, helped me understand it's not
Dylan's villain and his name is Bob Villain and it's
not really even his name. And he's got another guys
in the duo. Don't worry about it, they're losers. Just
before we leave Britain, there's a Conservative MP. He's gone
and referred himself to the Standards Commissioner. His name's George Freeman.
So he asked the director of an environmental monitoring company

(01:24:29):
what to ask about when submitting questions about the sector
that that particular firm operates in. He was previously advised
by the Government committee not to lobby the government on
behalf of the firm due to his previous role as
Science Minister. He doesn't think he's done anything wrong, but
he asked the company's director what to ask about as
he prepared written parliamentary questions to Labour's ministers related to
space data and emissions tracking. He asked the company if

(01:24:52):
they could help him get the wording right, which he
could then convert to parliamentary language. So anyway, we'll see
where that goes. Meantime, Rob Rob was run the Warwickshra
County Council and he's quit health. He's claiming he's staying
on as a councilor he just doesn't want to be
a leader anymore. He ain't got elected the other day.
The role of leader is an extremely demanding role. Regretfully,
my health challenges now me from carrying out the role.

(01:25:14):
So he's left George in charge. The current deputy George
turns out to be eighteen years old, So George Philly
young to be running a council. And we all know
what happens when young people run councils, don't we. I'm
looking at you, Gore, Mike. The first helicopter just landed
at Ali William's house. How exciting we got the newsroom.
There's the newsroom covering the one And are you counting

(01:25:35):
if you're in westmea suburb of Auckland, if you're in
West are you counting now? Because he's allowed two per
day and maximum ten permit?

Speaker 9 (01:25:42):
Who do you complain to?

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
You A good question, Glynn, Who do you complain to?
Do you make a citizens Does the council have like
a helicopter line? What do they do for that? Do
you get put on hold? Anyway? One down? Nine to
go for the month? Nine away from nine?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Mike, can you clarify is he allowed to land twice
a day for nine days or ten days per month,
which gives you twenty landings? Or is he allowed ten
landings so only five days twice a day? See why
they have commissioners. So he's allowed to come and go
one thing or two depending on how you want to
count them, for ten days. Once's he can't stay there

(01:26:28):
because he has to then go, so he can't do it.
He can do twenty individual movements where he can come
and go ten times.

Speaker 9 (01:26:37):
You've really cleared that up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Calendar month or thirty or thirty one days? What about February?
What's he going to do in February? What about a
leap you? I hope the submissions covered those particular aspects.
Off six minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Now TikTok I mentioned earlier on And he's got some
wealthy people to buy TikTok. And this is Trump and
he's delayed it and delayed it and delayed it because
I think he's stalling for time. And he goes I've
got these three people, and I'll tell you about it
in two weeks now. I alerted you to this earlier
on in the program. And I alerted you to this
because Caitlin Collins, who I've got a tremendous amount of
time for, who works for CNN in the afternoon out time,

(01:27:21):
she alerted me to this the other day. He uses
two weeks as a stalling tactic. Every time he doesn't
know when something's going to happen, or he doesn't know
he can deliver, he pretends he knows and then says,
two weeks. Do you think this is a pattern?

Speaker 13 (01:27:35):
Do you still believe that Putin actually wants to end
the war?

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I can't tell you that, but I'll let you know
it about two weeks.

Speaker 12 (01:27:42):
Within two weeks.

Speaker 13 (01:27:43):
President, If you know it about two weeks, i'd rather
tell you in about two weeks from now. You can
ask that question in two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:27:51):
That's over the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 13 (01:27:53):
When you say, I think so, over the next two
three weeks, we'll be setting the number. I will make
that this vision, I would say over the next two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
At some point in the next two weeks or three weeks,
I'm going to be.

Speaker 21 (01:28:06):
Setting the deal.

Speaker 13 (01:28:07):
It should have been done by Biden, just like the
young gentlemen that I brought home yesterday.

Speaker 12 (01:28:13):
After two weeks, and I.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
Think I'll go to a couple of these towns over
the next two weeks. You'll see for yourself, and I'll
be making a big decision on the Paris Accord over
the next two weeks. I think you're going to find
some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the
next two weeks. We're going to be announcing something, I
would say over the next two or three weeks that

(01:28:38):
will be phenomenal. We've got the plan largely completed and
we'll be filing it over the next two or three
weeks maybe, So we're going to be having a news
conference in about two weeks to let everybody know how
well we're doing. We're signing a healthcare plan within two weeks,
a full and complete healthcare plan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So that's a thing, don't you reckon? Breaking news. By
the way, Mike, looks like Ali's heading out towards the airport.

Speaker 9 (01:29:07):
Well, how many times is he allowed to land at
the airport?

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Another question for the commissioners, Glenn. In the olden days,
the media would have tracked him by a helicopter. But
the media can't afford a helicopter anymore. The only people
who can afford helicopter are Bally Williams.

Speaker 9 (01:29:22):
And also they've used up there helicopter allowance for the month, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Precisely, Mike, what if a friend with a helicopter visits?
What an excellent question. I mean, has he got parking
for two copters? And does that then count?

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
And is it just the same helicopter? Like, if he's
got more than one helicopter, can he bring it a
different helicopter?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Very good question. I hope that commissioners with their job
or I think there's more questions and it's a classic
there's more questions than answers scenario here, Folks. Go back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
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