Full Show Podcast: 01 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mike Hosking breakfast with our Veda Retirement, Communities, Life Your
Way news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
He had been bading and.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Welcome today a new daye new free trade deal. Good
for New Zealand Inc. We love it. The mental health
mister gives us his call on the Mike King Boo's Views.
Boris Johnson is in for a word this morning. Patrick
two for Loow Hotels England and Maharka, Tim and Katy
Rucket Up, Richard Arnold Murrayold's they'd make it the show
it is as wells Friday morning, seven pass six. Just
back to the review of the last election result that

(00:33):
we mentioned on the program this yesterday from the Political
Brains Trust at Victoria University. Just to remind you, they
analyzed our votes, our issues, our voting intentions and as
a result, what sort of mandate they thought the current
government has. Now my point was they overthought the whole thing,
given we only have one vote and it doesn't specifically
buy a lot or guarantee any sort of outcome or
even influence. So it is on that note I ask

(00:56):
you this very simple question this Friday morning if and
when Labor get back to power, they're going to need
most likely not just the Greens, but the Maori Party.
And it's the Maori Party that will potentially lead to
a flurry of analysis and a lot of hard questions.
I'm not sure anyone's even thought about yet. The Marory
Party are radicals. When the police raided the Bungol mob
the other day in a potoquy, Ray Whitety called it

(01:18):
terrorism driven by a race agenda. How do the Labour
Party live with that? How do they explain it? How
do they justify being in government with that? The Maray Party,
to their credit, I think a long term as given
White to t seems to have a lock on his
seat and that is far more reliable than the five
percent which they will never get because they're radicals. They
are single issue zealots. But democracy allows this if you

(01:40):
can find five percent to agree with you, or indeed
deceit where that sort of rhetoric sells and I think
Whitety has that seat. So when you vote for Labor
or for the Greens, do you think about a government
a grouping that has the Maori radical element in it?
And if you do, what do you think that will
lead to what do the Maori Party have the New
Zealand first cart the balance of power. You can't form

(02:01):
a government without them. What do you think their price
for that will be? How radical do you think that
will be? When the politics wants at Victoria University get
to analyze that, the heads will explode. What you thought
you were voting for and what you got will be unrecognizable.
And yet in twenty twenty six it's possible, and in

(02:21):
twenty twenty nine might even be likely.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
What news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Spine or parts of it Spain or just one of them.
Spain or parts of it are having a hell of
a time with the reign of course and the ensuing flooding.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Everything was just floated that what it was running like Hurley,
it was a vit crazy Andess Ferry, we have on
an all neighbor down there and she needed a refugee,
so I took her to my house.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
PM wading with PM type words and.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Once again express our solidarity with the victims their families,
and also conveyed the commitment of the government of Spain
and all the units that belonged to the National Civil
Protections system to help by land see and by all
means for as long as it takes.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
The day after the budget dy in Britain it's spin day.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
What that gives us is an NHS capable and able
to do the forty thousand extra appointments every week which
will bring the waiting the staff. What that gives us
this schools, with the teachers and the infrastructure. They need
to make sure every child can go as far as
their talents will take them, was their.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Person laughing, Because they don't believe starmar, or they're just
having a good time. The Institute of Fiscal Studies doesn't
see it as a panacea too much.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
It's due to grow a bit more next year because
they've got chucking so much money at the economy. But
the Office of Budget Responsibility takes the view that higher
taxes and because it's higher borrowing, higher inflation and higher
interest rates mean the growth will slow later on in
this Parliament.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Then in the Studies, Big don turn up on a
hi bus, vist in a rubbish track and went for
broke on the Biden gift.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
Two hundred and fifty million Americans are not garbage. Crooked
Joe Biden finally said when he and Kamela really think
of our support orders, he called them garbage, no way,
no way.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
To be fair. I watched that rally yesterday for my sins,
he's actually quite entertaining, periodically calm. In the meantime, she's
playing the female card.

Speaker 9 (04:11):
He has actually created a situation in America where now
one in three women lives in a Trump abortion bound
state and has legal restrictions on the right. She rightly
should have some make decisions about her own party.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Were she sounds worn out? Finally are can news. We
got a new roles for you. It's to mark the
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made of one of the card. It's a phantom gold Finger.
It's based on the phantom three Sadanca Deville took three
years to make. Features a gold puts up inside the bootlet.
That's reference to Bond's meeting with Goldfinger on the gold Course. Also,
there's a fictional map of Fort MoOx and twenty two

(04:48):
Carrot Gold. There's a stealing gold map of for car
Pars and switzerlandin eighteen Carrot Gold bar in a vault
in the center console's beautiful looking carriage yellow and black,
which is touch and go on the end. That's a
the interior and exterior. Anyway, don't get too excited, it's
already sold. What for they're not telling us who to.
They're not telling us that either. News of the world
in ninety are the PCEE. Oh boy, the Fed love

(05:10):
the PCEE. The personal consumption expenditure in America, this is
inflation two point one spot on. It's exactly what they
thought it would be. Meantime, in the Eurozone, not good.
Inflation back up from one point seven to two percent.
They thought one point nine a little bit hotter than
they thought. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
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it by News.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
TALKSB Switzerland might have deflationary problems coming shortly, there forecasting
inflation to go as low as zero point one percent.
So if you were wrong, it's suddenly zero, if not negative.
Chines Factory Purchasing Managers Index. We're interested in this because
New Zealand's fascinated with China and business and all that
sort of stuff. Anyway, it's an expansionary territory to a degree.

(05:55):
Fifty point one will take it first time since April
fifteen six again now my wealth Andrew Keller, who good morning,
very good morning. Not only is China expanding, we're optimistic
as well. Are these good times or are these good times?

Speaker 10 (06:12):
Well, we think they're going to be good times because
what is fizzing. It's fizzing, MIC is business confidence another
big lifting optimism that's just coming out of the ANZ
business outlooks.

Speaker 11 (06:23):
So it's hit another fresh high.

Speaker 10 (06:25):
So headline business optimism up another five points two plus
six in October. That is the highest we have seen
it since, Mike, since March twenty fourteen. Can you even
remember what you were doing in March twenty fourteen, I
mean decades talking to you exactly exactly those were the days?

Speaker 12 (06:46):
Is that.

Speaker 11 (06:48):
Anyway?

Speaker 10 (06:49):
Look, I just want to sort of pivot back here
to the theme or to the question about this. You know,
is the here and now diverging from expectations because common
wisdom or common sense suggests that it is, because you know,
business confidence is absolutely flying. But we'll probably still get
negative growth in Q three. But here's the big butt.
We're actually in Q four now and we may not

(07:11):
be diverging to the same degree that it was. So
there's been the left and one of the one of
the indicators here that I look at is there's been
the lift in expected own activity and reported past activity.
So expected own activity is up eight points to minus eleven.
That's the highest it's been since March. It's moving in
the right direction. The lift in reported activity also from

(07:32):
minus eighteen point five to minus ten point five. And
the important thing about that is reported past activity is real,
that stuff that's actually.

Speaker 11 (07:40):
Happening, It's not what you think is going to happen.

Speaker 10 (07:43):
Unfortunately, both of those indicators are still in negative territory,
so they're just not as overly as they were, but
there's a shift there.

Speaker 13 (07:50):
Now.

Speaker 10 (07:50):
If I look at pricing intentions, this is another interesting one.
There's a small lift in pricing intention so it's a
forty four percent of respondents intending to raise prices. So
a question to pond here, particularly if you are the
reserve bank, is to what degree will pick up an
activity prompt people or business to lift prices and try
and recover some of the margin that they've been losing

(08:11):
over the course of this year.

Speaker 11 (08:12):
And unfortunately that's inflationary.

Speaker 10 (08:14):
But stepping back and looking at all the results, a
lot of the indicators are moving in the right direction.
Export intentions plus seventeen hya since twenty eighteen and one
bit I was interested. One point of interest residential construction.
It's at plus thirty eight. It's holding on too recent games.
Not only that, it's also quite optimistic. The thing is,
it's a bit hard to see activity and residential construction

(08:37):
picking up in the short picking up materially in the
short term, you know, because there's a process to go
through and building consensus.

Speaker 11 (08:43):
Still very weak.

Speaker 10 (08:44):
But what that is, Mike, is evidence that it's coming
off a very low base. In other words, things couldn't
get any worse, and we're seeing that in some of
the retail respondents as well. But what we are looking
forward to, Mike, we are looking forward to actual activity
catching up to expectations.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
That'd be great, hope. So the better quickly run us
through the big boys.

Speaker 11 (09:02):
The big boys Microsoft.

Speaker 10 (09:03):
So yeah, a bit of an ugly night in the
tech megacap sector of the US share market. So Microsoft
yesterday after we spoke, it was actually in Ernie's beat Mic.
The result was better than expectations. Cloud business was strong,
big beneficial of.

Speaker 11 (09:17):
The AI boom.

Speaker 10 (09:18):
They're also an investor in open Ai, but lots of
competition in that space.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
As we've been talking, Amazon.

Speaker 10 (09:22):
Alphabet earnings per share three dollars thirty expect to come
in at three dollars ten, revenue sixty five point six billion.
It was expected to come in at sixty four point five,
but after our training was weak and when I look
at the share price overnight, the shares have fallen over
five percent. So the issue here is specific one for them.
Weaker out look for Azure. Their cloud computing division that

(09:42):
had been growing at thirty four to thirty five percent
a quarter now forecasts has grow sort of just over
thirty thirty one thirty two. You also had Meta a
Facebook ovidnight. They're down for shares down four percent as well.
Again they beat landless expectations. The problem here, Mike, and
it's a specific issue that has spilled up.

Speaker 11 (10:00):
Over into the broader concern.

Speaker 10 (10:01):
You get the company, you get Zuck a big warning
of further heavy expenditure on AI, and so people are saying, well,
what returning it out? They're also spending a lot of
money on the metaverse. Mike, and I have to admit
in my in my age, I don't understand the.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Metaverse because have you seen how much they're losing?

Speaker 10 (10:19):
Yeah, but are you gonna say you're going to go
into a virtual office and there's virtual cup of coffee.

Speaker 11 (10:23):
I don't get it. I don't get it. But maybe
I'm too old, you know.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
No, I don't think so, Andrew. You're a young environment
and that's why we love you vibrant.

Speaker 11 (10:30):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (10:31):
The Dow Jones is down two hundred points forty one,
nine hundred and forty two.

Speaker 11 (10:35):
It's about half a percent.

Speaker 10 (10:36):
The S and P five hundred is down one point
three six percent five seven three four. But the Nasdaq
has been smacked. It's down two and a quarter percent.
It was down more actually earlier on eighteen thy one
hundred and ninety. The forts to one hundred overnight. Hey,
guess what's spending? A whole heap of money is inflationary?
Who would have would have thought? Who would have thought that.

Speaker 11 (10:56):
It's down fifty points eight?

Speaker 10 (10:57):
Well, my no, then Nicky is down half a percent well,
thirty nine thousand and eighty one. Shang hoo, cong as
it was up point four percent three two seven nine.
The Ossie's lost twenty points yes down the ASEX two
hundred eight one six O and the n SX fifty
five fifty six points twelve thousand, six hundred and thirty.

Speaker 11 (11:14):
Eight on the currency's key. We dollar on the wholesal markets.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
We'll get your point five nine four seven US point
nine oh seven nine OSSI point five four eighty six
Euro point four six three one against the pound at
ninety point eighty two Japanese yen gold just coming off
a little bit two thousand, seven hundred and forty dollars
and breakthrud closing the week seventy three dollars and thirteen cents.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Look forward to your company next week. Andrew Kella her
best in the business jmi Well dot co dot n
Z Pasky, but quote unquote incredibly optimistic about where we're
going from here. Company's revenues up twenty percent. Shell made
money like this no tomorrow six billion for the July
to September quarter. Our cruise industry numbers out this morning
suggest it pumps one point three seven billion into our economy.

(11:56):
So we like the sound of them. Numbers six twenty
one REDUS talksb.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Coome the mic asking breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News talksb.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Right opoll time. I take this one with a grain
of salt because it's done by Jail, the partners with
the Daily Mail, and the Daily Mail's the Daily Mail.
So there's been a three point one percent margin. Two
This is nationally two Trump forty nine forty six. That's
out this morning. Numbers from CNN yesterday in a couple
of the swing states. This is the srs for C

(12:31):
and N Michigan, Harris Leeds Trump forty eight forty three,
Wisconsin fifty one to forty five to Harris Pennsylvania. It's
tired at forty eight apiece. The point about those numbers
is they've not changed in the ensuing months. And I
was watching a guy yesterday he's been polling since nineteen
seventy two. He said he's never seen a race so close.

(12:52):
And if everyone was being honest, I mean, pick whoever
you want, follow whoever you like, but if everyone was
being honest, no one can actually call it. The most
intelligent comment I heard yesterday was from Nate Silver, who
said his concern about this whole if you subscribe to
the everyone underestimates Trump, and that is true in sixteen,

(13:13):
it happened twenty twenty two. The polls underestimated in the
mid terms of the Dems. But if you underestimate Trump,
he thinks that some of that's dissipated and that there
are more bullish Trump supporters now. So the whole quiet
Trump thing is not what it was which I actually
subscribed to. I think that's probably a bit of truth,
and that's six twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Six trending now with hammers Warehouse, the Real House of Frequences.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Daniel Craigsback's got a new one out, a bit of
Oscar bars, hasn't it always a bit of oscar bars?
He's never won an oscar, not even be nominated anyway.
Queer is based on a semi biographical novel by a
guy called William Burrows. Involves drugs relationships in the Navy.

Speaker 8 (13:50):
The wise old Queen taught me that I had a
duty to live now, to conquer he with knowledge, from.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Sincerity and love.

Speaker 14 (14:01):
The difficulty is to convince someone else he is really
part of you.

Speaker 13 (14:05):
What else should I say?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Come bigger fish to pray?

Speaker 15 (14:09):
Bigger fishes right, cold, slippery, hard to catch?

Speaker 11 (14:15):
Why she had tallon.

Speaker 16 (14:19):
Independence in the.

Speaker 11 (14:23):
In the circum to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
The doors already open, can close it now?

Speaker 15 (14:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Ardy canos?

Speaker 17 (14:34):
Look away?

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Drew Starkey's The Other Star out in a limited theater release,
and I've Been betweenty seven goes straight to a streaming
service after that, Glass Onion was his last Movie's running
along here at the moment. The tabloid media made much
of that, right, Mike King? Do we care about Mike King?
Aren't we entitled of an opinion? So he has an opinion? Down?
Agree with it? Who is anyway? It's become political obviously.

(14:55):
The mental Health Minister Matt Doocey as with us in
a couple of moments after the News which next year
at news Talk said.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
B You're trusted home the News for Entertainment's opinion, and
Mike the Mike Hosking breakfast with the range rover. The
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Speaker 3 (15:12):
Head b the fairy Absolutely right, Mike. Irrespective of whether
the issue was a lack of training or a new
system or simply an aptitude, it was clearly nothing to
do with the age of the ferry or Nikola willis
deafening silence from the unions. That's what is one of
the many points I was trying to make with Ryan
before six o'clock this morning. This is a national scandal.
This is State Highway one, it is public transport, and

(15:33):
they're employing people who seemingly, according to yesterday, literally didn't
know what they were doing. Three of them did not
know what they were doing. And we soon go, oh, well,
that's the end of that.

Speaker 17 (15:47):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Twenty three minutes away from seven? Baseball has been good.
It's not as good as it could have been. It
should have been going to Game six and seven World
Series in Los Angeles this weekend, but it isn't. But
the Dodgers one and Richard Arnold super excited. He's with
as shortly meantime. Not the way to sell gumboot Friday,
By the way, is that Mike King has dug himself
a whole.

Speaker 10 (16:07):
Alcohol is not a problem for people with mental health
is because it's actually the solution to our problem.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
It's stopped, so's thought God.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Super political labor wants the government funding. Of course, stop
the order. The General has already criticized the way the
money was handed out in the first place. Mental Health
Minister Matt Doocey's with us on this Matt Morning to
you morning.

Speaker 14 (16:25):
Mike.

Speaker 18 (16:26):
Hey, I'm glad I rung the right station this morning.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Very good to hear as Mike King wrong.

Speaker 18 (16:33):
Look, I've made it very clear yesterday. I don't agree
with Mike's comments this time, but I have huge respect
for him, Mike and his advocacy. He's talked about his
personal experiences, He's really led some of the campaign in
New Zealand about breaking down the barriers of stigma and
discrimination and mental health. But this time I do disagree

(16:54):
with his comments.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Was this always going to bite you in some way,
shape or form given the way the money was ended out?
And he's controversial to.

Speaker 18 (17:01):
Start with Wincy when you look at the order to
General report which I think you're referring to, the order
to General was actually very complementary of the performance management
measures and the evaluation framework we've got built into the contract.
Because at the end of the day, this is about
the thousands of young people around New Zealand that through

(17:23):
the hundreds of councils of Gunboot Friday gets seen in
sometimes less than forty eight hours, and that's important to remember.
This is about the outcome and the twenty four million
dollars that the government invested will give an extra fifteen
thousand young people timely access to mental health support.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Just going back to the process. Throughout the process I'm
quoting here, the Minister has sought and received assurance from
officials that the implementation option chosen by the Ministry of
Health is compliant with government procurement rules. Did you throw
them under the bus when this got a bit angsty.

Speaker 18 (17:57):
Not at all. I sought assurance that the contract with
gum Boot Friday was compliant with government procurement rules. I
was given that assurance and I was also told that
the contract was not unusual. So at the end of
the day, the government made an agreement through the coalition
we would fund Gumboot Friday. We ensured that was delivered

(18:20):
compliant with government procurement rules. And what we're delivering is
a platform that's got hundreds of councilors across New Zealand,
that ensures that thousands of New Zealand Kiwi young people
at the time, we support they need.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
When you use the word though chosen by the Ministry
of Health, the Ministry of Health chose nothing. You guys
chose it. Via New Zealand first, didn't you.

Speaker 18 (18:41):
Well, it was in the coalition agreement, and we sought
assurance that the contract would be in line with government
procurement rules, which it was, and as I say, the
Order to General quite rightly pointed out that the performance
measures it was something that he was impressed about. And
actually it's about the evaluation outcome of any contract to

(19:03):
ensure it delivers what it needs to deliver. And I'm
confident we're going to see thousands of young Kiwis get
the support they need.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
That's encouraging and I'm kind. Look, I'm a believer in
the government of the day gets to do what the
government of the day wants to do because they've been
voted in to do it. But the way you did
it puts you on the hook. And already, because King
who is what he is, you're suddenly on a major
radio program having to defend him. Do you worry that
this is an ongoing pattern?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Now?

Speaker 18 (19:32):
I disagreement because actually Mike is allowed as an advocate
to have his comments. As I said, I disagree with
his comments this time, but actually more broadly I support
the work he does. But actually we've got to differentiate.
We're actually talking about Government Friday, which is an online
platform where they've got hundreds of counselors who are ready

(19:53):
to go. We know we've got an increasing number of
young people with mental distress in New Zealand. Those counselors
can be deployed to support those young people and actually
complement the publicly funded mental health system which is under
a lot of constraint at the time as well. So
at the end of the day, this is about the
young people getting the support they need.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Good stuff, all right, you have a good week. I
appreciate it. Matt Dousee, who's the Mental Health Minister's reference
at the beginning, of course, to ring in the right
radio station as the day he rang Morning Report and
was told there was no interview with Mike Asking, a
scandal that will probably go into the annals of broadcasting history,
certainly as far as I'm concerned. Eighteen minutes away from
seven past, it look very hard to move on from

(20:35):
things like that. Bit harsh on the ship masters, Mike.
It's the operator's responsibility to make sure that staff had
been trained. Do you honestly believe it? Do you honestly?
I mean yes, technically you're correct, of course it is
but if you're a master or anybody in charge of
anything and you know you don't know, surely at some
point the word self responsibility comes into play, does it not.

(20:58):
Eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 3 (21:06):
Fun fact. Mount Fuji doesn't have any snow on it?
Should it?

Speaker 13 (21:09):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Doesn't normally?

Speaker 13 (21:10):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
How long of records been going back for eighteen ninety four,
it is the longest period of time that Fuji doesn't
have any snow. Let's talk climate change on a Friday,
because who doesn't love that?

Speaker 19 (21:20):
Six forty five International Correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance
Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (21:28):
Whatdy, mikeel We love this, especially in the city of
angels I.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Reckon, I've thought, correct me if I'm wrong, But would
you not have loved six and seven in Los Angeles
this weekend?

Speaker 15 (21:38):
Try saying that in town La the Hollywood So no,
We're happy with five games Man. The Hollywood sign over
the town looks a little bit different this day because
one letter is a lit up. It's lit a D four.
You know what, Dodgers shining in Dodger blue after they
won the World Series with their seven to six victory
over the New York Yankees to take the series. Fod

(21:59):
away and it was a thriller. It was a real
come from behind victory LA entering this fifth game of
the best of seven leading three games to one. The
Yankees had struck back in the last round, and early
on the Dodgers had fallen behind five ZIP before this,
studying reversally with three defensive miscues as most in Yankee
Stadium went from raucous excitement to shock and horror. The

(22:21):
first was the Yankees there and Judge dropping an easy
fly ball. Then they just seemed to lose the plot and.

Speaker 14 (22:28):
This game has changed. In the blank of.

Speaker 20 (22:29):
An eye, Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 15 (22:31):
The Dodgers never looked back, winning as I say, seven
to six.

Speaker 20 (22:35):
And.

Speaker 14 (22:37):
Angeles Doctors.

Speaker 15 (22:42):
LA's Freddie Freeman was named MVP Most Valuable Player. He
homered in a record four straight games to open the series.
This go round, his young son Max almost died because
of yan bar syndrome, so there's a lot of love
for Freddy Freeman, whose son was doing a bit better.
There was also the first World Series win for the

(23:03):
Dodgers Japanese recruit show how A Taney maybe the best
in baseball overall, so they're celebrating in Japan also, and
attorney has a one point one seven billion billion to
the New zeal And ten year contract, so he's pretty tough.
I'd love to have gone to the game, but tickets
started at twenty two hundred bucks a seat plus the
AIRFAF Meantime, some Dodger fans set fire to a bus

(23:25):
and rober shoestore. The official celebration is set for tomorrow,
no doubt, with the police on hand. While in New
York City, the Post has a real talent for newspaper
headline through the years, and they put out another classic
covering this series for sadn New York as the headline
end of the world.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Yep, it looked like it and the mistakes they made
they deserved. Anyway, talk to me about the election, Richard
only five.

Speaker 15 (23:50):
Gosh, you know it's turned into a gotcha game, hasn't it.
It started with the comic at the Trump rally the
other day calling Puerto Rico a floating I don't garbage, then,
thanks Joe. President Biden jumped in with this little blooper.

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Only garbage I see flowing down there is his supporters,
his demonizational scene as I'm.

Speaker 15 (24:10):
Consciable, So that's set off flares in the Trump campaign ranks.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Crooker Joe Biden finally said what he and Kamala really
think of our supporters. He called them garbage. My supporters
are far higher quality than Crooked Joe or Lion Kamala.

Speaker 14 (24:27):
You can't lead.

Speaker 8 (24:28):
America if you don't love American.

Speaker 15 (24:31):
Harris must have been thinking pleased at the White House.
Joe Biden then issued a statement insisting that he was
speaking only of the comedian and not of anyone else
in the ranks of Trump supporters. That when he said supporters,
it was supporter with an apostrophe, so referring only to
the comedian, So it comes down to an apostrophe. But

(24:51):
this was a bungle, and Harris sin had to jump
on it.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
I think that the President has explained what he meant,
but I said it earlier. I sung disagree with any
criticism of the people.

Speaker 19 (25:05):
They sung.

Speaker 15 (25:05):
They for it Trump, and he's brillianted at this pr stuff.
You got to say, then hide a garbage truck for
his next event?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
How do you like my garbage truck.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
This truck is an honor of Kamala and Joe Baden.

Speaker 20 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (25:18):
Then he wore his orange dump truck vest of the
following event, when he went on with his comments that
he will be, if president again, the protector of women, they.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Said, sir, I just think it's inappropriate for you to
say petty. These guys a lot of money.

Speaker 17 (25:31):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 8 (25:33):
They said, well, I'm going to do it whether the
women like it or not. I'm going to protect them.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Whether women like it or not.

Speaker 15 (25:40):
Harrison jumped on that, saying it shows disrespect for women's independence. So,
like you say, Mike, five days to go counting exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
All right, I appreciate it pretty much. Have a good weekend.
We'll catch up week. Britt fav was the endorsement star yesterday,
called his wife Darling. He got up in the truck.
The interesting thing about the truck, and he told quite
an endearing story about how the truck came about, and
he's going to land and he puts on a vest
and he's moderately entertaining. But getting up in the truck
was no mean feat. And I can tell you for nothing,

(26:09):
Biden would never have been able to do it without
a hoist. So Trump had a couple of big steps
to get up. He missed the door handle, which if
it had been Biden they would have made something of,
And they didn't make it of Trump because he completely
missed the door handle and started stumbling. Then when he
opened the door, it didn't open quite as widely as
he thought it would, so it sort of almost smacked

(26:31):
him in the head. Then he realized what was going on,
so he had to climb up into the truck, and
to his credit, given as size and age, he got
up there. But the story he told about that was
good fun in the crowd line. But essentially Americans want
to be entertained. That's what this is boiled down to.
None of this is about policy or nuance, and subtlely

(26:52):
it's just about who's got the good giggles. Night Away
from Seven, the Mike.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Costing Breakfast with Cleanly's Estate News Dogs v.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
Just let me quite you note silver specifically. Another fact
that could be skewing the poles is if Trump's voters
are more charged up and excited, which might lead them
to partake in more poles than they have historically. I
think there's probably something in that how much who would know?
Hence we're all guessing, Mike, these ferry drivers should be
no different to aircraft crew. This is the point I'm
trying to make with Ryan. If a plane had crashed

(27:23):
in this country and the report had come back, look,
they just hadn't been taught how to land it, there
would be all hell to pay. But suddenly, because it's
a faery, it's like, oh, well, it's just a ship morning, Mike.
Of the ferry staff don't know how to turn the
If they know how to turn the automatic pilot on,
they should know how to turn it off. Makes sense,

(27:44):
doesn't it? Five minutes away from seven?

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with
business driver, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Electronic arts otherwise known as AA are so hot right now.
We love gaming Q two results now their Q two
is August and September. Don't ask it can't be bothered anyway.
Their revenue for the quarter was three point four billion,
up eight percent. A lot of what was driving record
bookings for the quarter. That's record book is how many
games they sell physically and digitally. Net bookings were three

(28:14):
point five billion dollars worth. That's up fifteen percent, so
this is all good stuff. Their second football game since
splitting with FIFA, it's called EA Sports FC twenty five
that came out in September. Record sales in a month
reached one hundred and thirty percent more players worldwide than
their twenty twenty four version, so they're booming. They also
launched the first college football that's American football game in

(28:34):
eleven years, best selling type for America during the quarter.
They also had three of the top ten games with
college Football, FC Football and Madden twenty five Maddens the NFL.
The game. By the way, Madden is set to exceed
a billion in bookings, with total hours playing up one
hundred and forty percent. The other top former was SIMS
four despite coming out in twenty twenty two. In the

(28:57):
past year, they've seen fifteen million new player joining SIMS,
so that's still hot as well. So all of that
means they've lifted their full year earnings to about thirteen
billion dollars, which is why we should probably talk more
about the tech sector in this country because there are people,
and there's the great debate around tax treatment. You get
a better tax treatment for the gaming developers in Australia
than you do in New Zealand, and we probably need

(29:18):
to think something about that. If we're suddenly subsidizing the
film industry, why aren't we subsidizing we're helping out the
gaming industry more than we are. Blah blah blah. But nevertheless,
the point being is it, Scott, no geographical barriers. If
you're a bright person who can do these sort of
things electronically and technically, we could be big time players
in the world of gaming because it is huge. Boris Johnson,

(29:38):
remember him. He's popping in for a word after seven
and thirty this morning. I give you the full detail
on that later. Patrick Tuypelota, who's playing some rugby this
weekend at Twicking him, so we'll need to have a
word of him. And we've got the new trade deal
to give you details on in just a couple of moments.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 3 (30:05):
Tog sad be Morning seven past seven, always happy to
report good news for the economy. Today, it's another trade deal,
this time the Golf Cooperation Council. That's a grouping of
six Arab states. You got bar Rain, Qaight, Aman, Qatar,
Saudi Arabia and the UAE. The deal being described as
the best the GCC has done yet from Doha. Trade
Minister Tom McLain Morning, make good morning, described as an
eighteen year long ambition. Why has it taken so long?

Speaker 20 (30:29):
Well, look, it's been a range of things.

Speaker 21 (30:31):
You might remember that many years ago we got quite
close and then there was an issue with Saudi Arabia
around live sheep exports. I was able to re engage
with the GCC ministers in February of this year. I've
had seven this is my seventh visit up here and
I'm just very very pleased that we've been able to
land this deal. It's really good for our exporters. It's

(30:52):
one of the highest quality deals the GCC has ever done.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
So they would be what you would call, and I
reference once again the UK Deal true free traders.

Speaker 20 (31:02):
Yeah, well, yes and no.

Speaker 21 (31:04):
In as far as our agreement is concerned, we have
ninety nine percent of our exports will be tariff free
over ten years when we add the UAE deal to it,
which we did a month ago, about fifty percent on
day one on entry into force. So in that respect, yes,
But if you look at all the other trade deals
have done and have done a few now, they're much

(31:26):
lower levels of ambition.

Speaker 20 (31:27):
So one of the things we've been able to.

Speaker 21 (31:28):
Do during the course of the last seven months is
raised that level of ambition and demonstrate to them that,
you know, getting rid of these tariffs, even over time,
will be good for both sides. And I'll tell you
what they're most interested in us now because that.

Speaker 20 (31:41):
Issue of the live sheep exports has gone.

Speaker 21 (31:44):
It's finished, it wasn't raised, there's nothing in the agreement
about that, so no commitments, nothing at all. What they
really are after now is to be able to you know,
feed their own citizens and a growing tourism industry with
high quality, safe food. And I reckon that's why we're
all the crack it. They have a lot of in that.
You know that from New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Is there a bit of a theme. I don't know
if you've caught up on this because you're traveling the world,
but Shane Jones came back from Singapore. What Singapore is
interested in is food security. Is food security for a
country like us the go to play.

Speaker 21 (32:15):
It is now post COVID, Yes, absolutely, and when if
you look at the world at the moment, you know
with all the uncertainty and geopolitics, it is.

Speaker 20 (32:24):
And food security is two things.

Speaker 21 (32:25):
It's safe food because even if you have food, if
you're not sure it's safe for your citizens to consume,
you know, it's not the same.

Speaker 20 (32:33):
And then making sure you have enough of it.

Speaker 21 (32:35):
And certainly the conversations I've had with the various countries
and all six of the trade ministers from these countries
today here when we are initial, you know, the end
of negotiation is their desire to have long term, sustainable
relationships where when they need the food, we will supply
it to them.

Speaker 20 (32:54):
And that's something we said we'll work through.

Speaker 21 (32:56):
But the first step is to get those tariffs out
of the way, get some certainty in this can invest
time and effort into this trade relationship.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
What's the growth path on this deal, because if you
look at the GCC, it's made up of a bunch
of countries, including the UAE, but we've got a separate
UAE deal. The big money seems to be with the
UAE in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 20 (33:16):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 21 (33:17):
We sell there's about three billion dollars worth a two
way trade.

Speaker 20 (33:21):
We sell them two point six billion every year.

Speaker 21 (33:24):
Of that therere is about one point seven billion, and
red meat about two hundred and sixty million. Their terriff
rates are not high, but you know, it's a very
competitive market.

Speaker 20 (33:33):
So even getting them.

Speaker 21 (33:35):
To zero gives us a competitive advantage. But this deal,
as with the UE, is about how much more we
can trade with them, not what we're doing now. And look,
I suspect that over the next four or five years
we'll see that two and a half billion dollars with
exports jump significantly. They're very, very big lamb meters. We

(33:55):
don't sell them a lot of lamb, but they will
start buying it from us for our sheep. Farmers are
doing it hard. It's a real opportunity here. The other
thing that I think is very important. We've got a
lot of you know, a liberalization of services. So if
you think about Saudi Arabia, they're investing trillions of dollars
into infrastructure.

Speaker 20 (34:14):
They are building their country.

Speaker 21 (34:16):
We already have engineering firms and others up here from
New Zealand. They now have greater rights under this agreement,
and I think we'll see our services trade grow significantly
at the same time as we sell them more food
and fiber.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Quick word on India story here yesterday. They're changing the
way they engage with the world. They're not interested in
small countries. They want to do the big play. Is
that a problem for us or not?

Speaker 20 (34:40):
Well, no, it's not wetting. We're putting a lot of
effort into that relationship.

Speaker 21 (34:43):
And you know, again I've had six or seven visits
and it's building.

Speaker 20 (34:47):
We're starting to sell more.

Speaker 21 (34:48):
In two directions, the Indian President visited New Zealand and
at the same time, you know, there's an invitation from
Prime Minister Modi for Prime Minister.

Speaker 20 (34:57):
Lux And to visit as well.

Speaker 21 (34:59):
I think what that's signaling is they do want to
do deals with larger countries because they haven't.

Speaker 20 (35:04):
Got any of those.

Speaker 21 (35:04):
They haven't got the EU, they haven't got the UK,
they haven't got the US, they haven't got China. But
in my engagement with them, there are other reasons that
they are interested in New Zealand, and some of that
is the innovation and technology we have around agriculture, so.

Speaker 20 (35:19):
I'm still very optimistic there. That is all.

Speaker 21 (35:21):
We've always said that relationship over the last six years
of the Labor government was underdone and we have to
invest in it first before we get close to.

Speaker 20 (35:28):
A trade arrangement.

Speaker 21 (35:29):
I'll have another trip up to India before the end
of the year. I'm just going to keep putting the
effort in because if we don't, we know what we get,
which is nothing.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Good on you have a good weekend, appreciate it. From Doha.
Todd McLay, the Trade Minister. Twelve minutes past seven past
related matters. We are a warning from the hort folks
this morning. Vegetable price is going to skyrocket if the
government doesn't straighten out the freshwater policy plans. Comes out
of a report by the ends at i e. They
reckon broccoli could hit nine bucks ahead hot In. New
Zealand's general manager of Strategy and Policy, Michelle Sands, is
with us. Michelle, good morning, good morning. There's all to

(35:58):
do with nitrogen runof and stuff like that.

Speaker 22 (36:00):
Yeah, it's about the fresh fruit water rules and at
the moment there isn't any recognition that vegetable growing and
enabling the supply of fresh fruit and vegetables for New
Zealand as a matter of national importance. So when counsels
make their rules at the moment, they haven't been paying
enough attention to the impact of those rules on the
supply of vegetables. And so we have rules that are

(36:23):
related to water quality that mean that vegetable production could
be seriously threatened in the Wakatu and horizons.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
But the same rules as applicable to farming and all
the yankst in places like Southland that the farmers are
worried about, you're worried about from the vegetable department.

Speaker 22 (36:40):
It is a bit different. For vegetables. It's really important
that they rotate, and what we have is rules that
are preventing growers from rotating, and so growers need to
rotate for soil health, and at the moment rules classify
rotation as new activities and prevent that from happening and
so what. So it is a little bit different to

(37:02):
what's being what the farmers are experiencing. Growers are absolutely
committed to undertaking good management practices. Of course they want
is a permitted activity which allows them to grow the
vegetables that we need, provided they are Here's.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
What I've never understood, Michelle. First of all, we need vegetables,
and I would have thought that was, you know, just
just a given. But farmers like you know where your
cows or lettuces. No one sets out to ruin your property,
which ruins your business, which ruins your livelihood, do they.

Speaker 22 (37:33):
It's an unintended consequence. But the RMA has become extremely complicated.
We've been in regional planning processes that have lasted for
ten years and at the end of it, no one
can make head or tail of the rules. So what
we need is the government to come in to make
it very clear in the Resource Management at bills that
they're putting before the House by the end of this

(37:53):
year that vegetable production, that enabling the supply of vegetables
as a matter of national importance and New Zealanders and
they need to deliver on the promise that national made
at the election to make digitable production of permot at activity.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
I shall follow it up with the Prime Minister on
Tuesday and see where we're at with that. Appreciate your time,
Michelle Sands Hart, New Zealand. Ten years Eh, why wouldn't
you want to sit around for ten years and then
end up with something you don't understand. Fifteen past seven.

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Boris Johnson shortly Patrick Twopaloto before eight, Tim and Katy
after eight seventeen past to speaking sport by the Way
early season treat for the football fans. The New Auckland
AFC or the Auckland FC get to go head to
head with the A leagues establish New Zealand branch, which
of course comes in the form of the Phoenix, country's
first ever professional football derby. Sky Stadium Chief Executive Warwick
Dent is in charge of hosting his weatherus Warwick Morning.

(38:49):
I like Auckland. I'm not a football fan, but I
like what they're about. They attract a good crowd. The
Phoenix attract a good crowd. I mean that's recipe for
a good weekend for you, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (38:57):
Oh, we think it's going to be a great weekim
I think excitement both here in Wellington but in Auckland
amongst football fans but general sports fans and as you said,
New Zealand's first professional football derby, and we're just really
pleased to be hosting that here at the home of
the Wellington Phoenix sky Stadium.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Fis wise, where does it sit between I don't know
Super Rugby and PC Rugby another sort of event you
would hold.

Speaker 17 (39:19):
Oh, we think it's right up there with a big
Super Rugby clash in terms of a traditional rivalry between
New Zealand Super Rugby franchises. We're expecting a crowd of
an excess of twenty thousand, so we think it's going
to be a great occasion.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Is that good? I mean, I don't want to burst
your bubble, but you hold thirty something. If the two
top football sides in this country can't sell out a stadium,
is there something wrong or not?

Speaker 17 (39:44):
I think, Mike, if you look at crowd sizes for
the A League, a crowd in excess of twenty thousand
for regular season is really good. No, We've we've got
stadiums that are built to larger, larger capacities. But if
we can get crowds of twenty up to twenty five
thousand for a regular football match, and as we saw
with the Phoenix last season when they had made that
run into the semifinals, will be filling out for the semifinal.

(40:07):
There's an audience there.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
You got the weather because I watched the MPC final
there last week. It was miserable.

Speaker 17 (40:12):
It wasn't a little bit for all last weekend. I
please to say that this weekend is looking a lot better.
I think tomorrow looking at sort of almost twenty degrees sun,
not much wind, and to be a great evening for football.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Good stuff, go well, make appreciate it very much. My
wife said to me on our walk yesterday, all you
do on the weekend is watch sport. That's what she
said to me. We were holding hands at the time,
but she turned to me and I said all the
things we were going to do this weekend. She goes,
why are you doing this? All we do, all you
do is watch sport. So anyway, just to warm you
up for what's coming after eight probably seven twenty.

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seven to twenty three. Time now to make a week
little piece of news and current events that will turns
up on the same day. Unlike Travis Scott Democracy eight,
the freedom to have your say has been on wide
display this week in Queensland six. Change your government long

(41:52):
over due. In Japan five, a lesson and scandal and
scuttle dugory it'll get you in the end. And in
Georgia three democracy and name only. Let's see if anyone
does anything about it. Wellington seven as in the NPC
team brilliant final overtime, high drama. Good for rugby. Rugby
numbers six registrations are up this week. Good for rugby

(42:14):
twikers seven the old home country and a chance to
topple the palms. Good for rugby. The Harker Sex. I
know he's a bookhead, but doesn't he make a not
unreasonable point by the time we show up sing the
national anthem twice and then ask for the Harker. It's
a lot of indulgence asked for, isn't it. Auckland seven
Say what you want about it, But of all the

(42:34):
new people who arrived in the country last year, half
of them stayed in Auckland reports. Are they love the
public transport? Anthony Alban easy too, Hi Ellen? Can you
stick us in first? What could possibly go wrong? Jindy
Anderson three? Look at his trousers? What could possibly go wrong?
Australia and the COVID reports seven now obviously a lot

(42:56):
more efficient than us given, we're barely halfway through ours.
But what there says, ours will say in the end,
and sadly for both the trust has gone and lessons
will never be learned. But good to see some honesty
at last. Chogham four. Honestly, what came out of that?
I mean literally tell me what came out of Chogham
apart from that really funny photo of the king that
Ginny told me about. Author FC seven two from two

(43:21):
a local RB to sort the pecking order. Good for
sport are the government's new building self certification ideas this week.
Eight in general eight Yes, in general, things do not
need to be as complicated as they so often are.
And that is the week copies on the website and
for rural subscribers, by the way, it's available Mondays and Thursdays,
as long as the band's running, asking Mike, so great

(43:42):
to hear an enthusiastic trade minister on top of its portfolio?
How refreshing might to listen to the trade minister the positivity?
I agree, I think he I don't think he gets
the credit he deserves. We're out in the world and
we're doing the business, and I don't think he gets
the credit we deserve basically because he's offshore, so therefore
you know he doesn't get the headlines quite the way

(44:03):
he should.

Speaker 14 (44:03):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
I think the Mike King incident shows clearly the difference
between the current government and the last. This government can
disagree rightly with the comments of Mike King made but
still support the good work done. The last lot would
cancel if you didn't agree with him. I think there's
something in that and what I find fast I think
Mike King is too from the lip. And as I
said a couple of weeks ago when the Order to
General got involved in the funding of this, this is

(44:26):
going to be ongoing. Mark my words. This government is
goot Doocey's going to be on this program for the
next couple of years defending all sorts of weird and
one doesn't mean that Mike King's not doing a good
job or his group's not doing a good job. Just
means that it's got a political edge to it. But
what does fascinate me about this country? I go back
to the ferry this morning, fascinated with the Harker. Couldn't
get into the Harker enough. Some dickhead go Harker and

(44:48):
yet again we fall for it, and then Mike King
says what he says, as though having an opinion somehow
is illegal in this country. Couldn't couldn't fall over enough
with the coverage, and yet we drive a theory in
to the ground with dickheads on the bridge who don't
know what they're doing, and somehow they ah, you did we?
But what about Mike King? But what about the Harker?

(45:09):
Let's get back to that. Boris Johnson? Now why is
he on the program? That's a very good question. I'll
answer that for you in the next half hour of
the program. The Head of the Rugby with Patrick who
said Quickers, and of course Tim and Cady Afterway.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
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Speaker 3 (45:30):
What is it with all this niggative press for the
f one top drivers about Lawson? Is it genuine fear
that this guy is obviously better than all of them,
that john is exactly what's going on at the moment,
and people like Alonzo and people like Pei's peeris especially
is about to lose his job to Liam Lawson, and
so when a young guy comes in and they drive
you off the track and they appear to be of

(45:51):
genuine talent, gets a little lengsty and the pattickers they say,
why do we need Mike an inquiry when it was
clear from the start that the operator did not know
how to turn the autopilot off. Elister, I don't know
that it was clear. But the reason we have reports
is that makes it official, and it can't be official
unless you have a report. It also allows the minister
in later times to go well as the report said,

(46:11):
And if you didn't have a report, you wouldn't be
able to say that, would you. Now it is twenty
three minutes away from eight. I did it tell you
the story? Boris Johnson. I had the best time with
him yesterday. I hooked up with him yesterday morning. He's
coming next month for a lunch. And I tell you
about that for a mine and the full interview, and
you can just match the whole thing. It had an

(46:31):
air of kind of chaos about it. Hence, as Boris anyway,
by way of a preview, this gives you an indication.
I just at the very beginning, I said, look, look, Boris,
can you like give us just thirty seconds on the
UK budget.

Speaker 13 (46:46):
Look, I think.

Speaker 23 (46:48):
We left the Conservatives is basically god infation under control.
When I was plannised two years ago, now more than
two years ago, we beat COVID. Yes, we had a
huge problem with the cost of furlough and we spent
a huge amount of fighting COVID. But it is insane

(47:10):
at a time when the UK state has already expanded
so massively to be putting up taxes in this way
with no reform to the public sector and no reform
to white torby.

Speaker 13 (47:22):
They scrapped a plan.

Speaker 23 (47:24):
Of ours to cut sixty six thousand jobs from government.
Government has ballooned, and you know, business is being ha had.
I just got a message from a children's clothing business.
It's being hammered by these taxes on employment. It will
crush enterprise. It's a totally the wrong way for the country.
And you know I shouldn't be saying that I should be,

(47:46):
because I should be extolling the virtues.

Speaker 13 (47:48):
Of my country, which I do. I believe profoundly in
my country.

Speaker 23 (47:51):
But this guy's Starmer and his left wing crew, they're
going in the wrong direction.

Speaker 13 (47:55):
And I'm very, very sad about it.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Are they doing what you thought they would do? Or
has the British public beinhoodwinked by this?

Speaker 13 (48:02):
Right, it's worse because I honestly thought I thought there
was a.

Speaker 23 (48:06):
Chance that he would be another Tony Blair, and you know,
he had people like Mandelssohn around him and so on
and so forth.

Speaker 13 (48:14):
But he's way to the left of Blair.

Speaker 23 (48:17):
And he's doing stuff you know, the I mean tax rates, well,
I'm ashamed to say we're higher under the Tories than
they were under Tony Blair. The income tax rate for
top hurlers was higher, and that was I was going
to cut it if i'd if I'd been allowed to
hang on, which is a cobsolutely great mistake by my party,
because we you know what makes me, what drives me

(48:37):
nuts about this, and I will be covering this in
the Unleashed.

Speaker 13 (48:41):
Tour, the Duco event.

Speaker 23 (48:45):
You know, when I was kicked out by my poor
you know, nighted colleagues in July of twenty twenty two,
whenever the hell it was, we were only a couple
of points behind right and this reform, these reform guys,
you know what I mean, the.

Speaker 13 (49:02):
Farage guys, they were on zero Okay. They then murdered
us in the twenty twenty four election. But when I
was in charge, but they were on zero, we would
not have had.

Speaker 23 (49:11):
This starmer nightmare if we'd if we'd stuck to plan.
And I'm very, very sad about and I'm frothing frankly
about the because it's going to take a long time
to get them out. You know, we have to wait
at least five years, and they're they're gaining the wrong
direction now the UK. The UK look at we need

(49:31):
to look at the United States. Compare the growth rates
over the last fifteen years since the crash in the
US and the EU. It's shattering. The EU is basically flat.
The US goes up to a forty five degrees. Fifteen
years ago, the EU and the US were both worth

(49:57):
about fourteen and a half trillion dollars right intertal Fifteen
years later today that the EU is worth about it's
got up about a trier.

Speaker 13 (50:06):
It's about fifteen trillion dollars.

Speaker 23 (50:08):
The US is twenty six trillion dollars, okay, and it's
got a far smaller population, far smaller population, but it innovates,
it rewards enterprise, It has a lot of tax environment,
it's in favor of growth. It tries to fix energy problems,
and you know both New Zealand and the UK suffered

(50:30):
from those from the exorbitant costs of energy. But there's
a there's a there's a different there's a there's a
we need to have a more can do approach in
our country. And it's not giving you far more than
thirty seconds. But I'm pretty I'm pretty worked up about
it right now. We've got we were going in the
wrong direction.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
So that was me and Boris yesterday with just basically
the opening question. We got on to other matters of course,
the US election obviously, and so he will be with
us on Tuesday on the program in full Flight, and
it's an interview. I can assure you that it's well
worth listening to the book Unleash. By the way, he's
coming to the country, as he mentioned with Djuku Duku events.

(51:10):
It's the Capital Long Lunch with Boris Johnson Tuesday, December three.
By the way, if you're interested in a Christmas present
for somebody, it's between twelve thirty and four length the
old lunch, mind you, it was a lengthy old interview.
I mean if his lunch. Is we ever come to
an end? It's at the courts in Auckland anyway. More
on Boris on Tuesday seventeen too the.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
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Speaker 3 (51:35):
Talks it be I might tell you just before we
leave Britain, led by Jeremy Clarkson among others. There is
absolute fury in Britain from farming and the farming community
over the inheritance tax movement from the UK budget yesterday.
Once upon a time you can sort of it's the
intergenerational thing and this was what makes you the UK unique.

(51:57):
Small farm holdings, landlots are passed down from generation to generation.
That's what, in many respects keeps farming alive. The Labour Party,
you who have never farmed anything in their life apart
from rich people, have decided that they're going to amend
the inheritance tax. So if anything worth less than a
million pounds you get away with. But above that there's
going to be fifty percent relief at an effective rate
of twenty percent from April of twenty six. Now at

(52:19):
a million pounds you go as million pounds a lot. No,
I mean, if you got a block of land, there's
I mean a million plus all the buildings and the
tractors and the equipment. It's nothing. I mean, it's so
essentially every farmer is going to get tax inheritance. Wise,
therefore do you hand it on? And if you hand
it on, is that, you know, shackle around the neck
of the next generation so they cannot be more furious
at the moment. Mike, you're right. As a retired airline pilot,

(52:42):
I can affirm we don't go near a new system
without a full training course. That's the thing that strikes
me is particularly od that and this is why I
cannot see why people aren't more exercised about that. That
you can't get on a digger without some form of
certification or a tractor, but apparently you can drive a
fairy into the ground. We're really not knowing what you're doing, Mike.

(53:05):
What sort of autopilot drives a fury into the land. Well,
that's a not unreasonable question if you hadn't read the report.
So do read the report, because there's a very clean
and clear answer to that. It's not the autopilot's fault.
It's to engage the autopilot. Then we get this, and
this might go some way to explaining why the media
and others aren't overly exercised. Mike, the ship didn't sink,

(53:27):
no one was harmed. Well that's okay then, isn't it fantastic?
So what would you do if they did sink and
they were hard? Would that make it completely different? Would jam? Mike?
I love motorsport, but I've Neil never followed F one
until Liam got his seat. But I've never now read
so much about Liam red Bull in Mexico. How much
trouble is liaman in your view? Is there no trouble
at all? What's none whatsoever? He's making a name for

(53:51):
himself and he's going to be in Red Bull before
you know it, And just think about the implications and
ramifications for that in New Zealand sport Red Bull. That
got trouble at the moment, obvious, but they'll come right.
They're a great sign. They are the two best cars
in F one, and if they're not the two best
cars in F one, they are two of the best
cars challenging to be the two best cars in F one,
and he is part of that. So it's one thing.

(54:11):
First of all, you got to crack F one, then
you got to crack F one in a team that
does something or means something. If you crack that, you
are in a car that potentially means you win a race.
Think about when was the last time in New Zealander
won and F one race. Once you start winning F
one races, then you start aiming for a season and
for a championship. In other words, you become the F
one world champion. The Lewis Hamilton, the Max forstaf and

(54:33):
those sort of people, and you go down in the
annals of motor racing history. And that potentially is on
the verge of where Liam Lawson's at. And that's how
significant that is. Mike, we don't sell out stadiums for
Super Rugby Phoenix of better crowds than Hurricanes, just saying
the problem with that is why don't we That's all
I was asking about. If you can't get the two
best football being the biggest sport in the world, if

(54:54):
you can't get the two top sides of the most
popular sport in the world together for a first time
ever head to head derby, and all you can do
is drum up twenty thousand people from a population hundreds
of thousands. I wonder about our passion for sport, or
for football, or for going out on the weekend. It's
all I was asking you about. It's in away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
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Speaker 3 (55:20):
You don't know. I from Northern Tour speaking of sport
Northern two well and truly underway. A tickle up with
the Japanese last week to warm things up, real deal
this weekend it's England that Twickers Patrick two plot. Who's
wea us? Good morning?

Speaker 12 (55:30):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
How's the week gone for you?

Speaker 12 (55:33):
A very good? That's been good training where there hasn't
been too bad and yeah we're feeling good and confident
leading into a test.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
How much? What sort of thinking is going on in
the team as far as the tour is concerned. England
to start with, that's interesting Ireland. Second you finished with Italy,
you might be a bit soft mentally by then. I mean,
is it a tricky thing to think about?

Speaker 12 (55:55):
Yeah, A very very much is quite tricky. I mean
on the outset, you look at the whole for five weeks,
we've just at Japan and then you've got a tough
European schedule against England island in the French and then Italy.
So for us you want to make it overpowering, so
we focus on each week, take each week as it

(56:18):
comes and enjoy every day that comes.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
Good on you have you got to read on the side.
Let's start with England. Do you have a good sense
of what England are about at the moment?

Speaker 13 (56:27):
Yep.

Speaker 12 (56:28):
Obviously we played them well, they were finishing their season
in the middle of the year, and now that they
will play them at the start of the international season,
so they'll be a bit more fresh and I think
they'll play similar to how they did in the middle
of the year, try and disrupt our set piece, check

(56:49):
the ball quite a bit and try to dominate that way.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
And Twickenham does that have its I mean Twickenham is
an opponent all in itself, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (56:58):
Yes, very noisy, The crowd comes into play quite a bit.
Wove been training quite a bit with a speaker on
meetings out on the field, so not quite the same,
but in terms of prep it will help a little bit.
I myself have played there a couple of times and
it's quite enjoyable, just sort of listening and embracing the noise,

(57:21):
but yeah, if we play well, it shouldn't be too
much noise anyway.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
How are you guys seeing it? Is it a season
of two halves? In other words, you've done you a
bit down in this part of the world and this
is a whole new thing. Or is this just a
continuation of the season of twenty four and therefore all
the wins and all the losses go to add up
in totality.

Speaker 12 (57:37):
Yeah, it's a continuation. Obviously. Want to get better every test,
and we're trying to improve along the way. So you're
on to a full stop to so different games and
different points of the season. I want to carry on
what we can.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
What are you making of Razor? You're loving him?

Speaker 12 (57:57):
Yeah, I enjoy him. It's fresh, Andrei and Eli. He
sits for mindset. It sits the scene at the start
of the week. Ah uh. He's quite a funny man,
and he loved the Craik jokes here and near so
around the environment. He's just himself.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Good suf, all right, Mike, Well appreciate it very much.
Patrick two Pilota out of the Old Blacks camp this morning.
Five minutes a wife or might Poska trump'son New Mexico,
New Mexico.

Speaker 24 (58:26):
Look, don't make me waste a whole damn half a
day here. Okay, Look, I came here. You know we
could be nice to each other, or we can talk Turkey.
Let's talk turkey.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
Okay.

Speaker 24 (58:37):
First of all, Hispanics love Trump.

Speaker 13 (58:40):
They go.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
True.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I like them. They're smart.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
They're a lot smarter than the person running for president
on the Democrats side. You could say, a lot smarter
than Baden too.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
I can tell you feeds off a crowd, doesn't he.
I've noticed it's a very nice autumn in America. I'm watching.
I'm following the campaign with a great deal of interest,
and pretty much wherever they go there are clear blue skies.
So it's fall, as they call it in America. And
whether they're.

Speaker 20 (59:18):
Really in Milwaukee, well, m camera, I got off the plane.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
She looked a bit, was it bit miss clear? But yeah,
but no, there's nothing wrong with cold as long as
you got clear. But I've not seen a bad weather
day on this campaign yet. I mean, obviously New Mexico
is a story in itself. But you're up in the
northeast there and Illinois, and your.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Quite stormy in Florida and.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Recently Stormy recently Hey News in a couple of moments,
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Speaker 1 (59:46):
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Speaker 16 (59:57):
Christmas Morning, and the Goby Your Family for with my
feet dangling wondering when they might grow to you the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
I have been informed this morning that I've heard of
ben Folds. I said that I don't know the name
may when yes, you do. So ben Folds has a
new album out. The suggestion was he put out an
album in twenty twenty three, which would make that last
year What Matters Most, and that was thirty years after
he had formed the ben Folds five. And when he

(01:00:32):
put out What Matters Most last year, he speculated it
could be his last pop album because he'd been embarking
on more and more ambitious projects with a classical realm.
Now this I don't know whether that fits into what
I've just mentioned, but this is his first day of Holiday.

Speaker 18 (01:00:47):
Album, no.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Part Evince Giraldi and Randy Newman. So that's no bad
thing because I like Randy Newman. Seven New Christmas compositions.

Speaker 13 (01:00:58):
Is this one? Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:00:59):
From you Tied the Sunshine?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Five songs and two piano instrumentals. Can a piano instrumental
be a Christmas song? And how do you know that
a piano instrumental is Christmas? It can be jazzy or
rock and rolly come, but it can't be Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
In well, when you whistle hacked, the Herald Angels.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Sing, well, that's your song in.

Speaker 17 (01:01:24):
July, you're just whistling.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
But that's still Christmas whistling, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It's definitely Christmas whistler. It was eight minutes past day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Who sponsors this the weeknd Review with two degrees bringing
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Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
God bless two degrees and God bless Kate Hawk's being.
God blessed him. Wilson. Good morning to both of you.

Speaker 25 (01:01:45):
Good morning, Good morning you too.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Should quick question for you, Tim, what's the ratio of
sportage watching on a weekend before it became problematic.

Speaker 20 (01:02:04):
Inside your average marriage?

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
How much should inside your average marriage? Okay, so look,
I'll probably say I don't have a lot of experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Because you can't. You come to it as a neutral observer.

Speaker 14 (01:02:17):
Okay, Okay, I think I think there are two issues
here and I'm coming at it. You know, to kids
with screen time, there's duration, but there's also approach when
it's switched off, and are their tantrums? And also is
there is there an engagement with the spouse while the
sport is being is being.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
They're all good points. My counter and this let me
bring Jason the Boston because Jason said, and he's quite right,
it's not my fault because I don't schedule the sport
and what.

Speaker 14 (01:02:52):
Oh no, that's no, no, no, no, well you can
you can watch it any time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
No no, no, no, you can't tim stop of course,
because it's my only My only writer on this would
be if I said, all of a sudden, hey, look
the cricket's on. No, I don't watch cricket, and Katie
quite rightly would be able to say, you don't watch cricket,
this is crap. But for example, the f ones this weekend,

(01:03:17):
I've got to watch the f one and I can't
then go in the middle of December, hey look I
might go watch the Brazilian Grand Prix from last month
because it's it's it's spoilt, it's over. So I've got
to watch it when it's happening.

Speaker 14 (01:03:28):
So when's the f one happening?

Speaker 18 (01:03:30):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
That's my court over the weekenctually, Well, you've got on
weekend Friday, Friday, well, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Really, so Saturday
morning is practice one, Practice two, Sunday is practice three
in qualifying, and then on Mondays the race.

Speaker 25 (01:03:44):
Itself, and then Saturday nights there is always something, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Saturday nights well, I mean the early hours of Saurday morning.
You got the all blacks. Yeah, it's it's unpatriotic not
to watch.

Speaker 14 (01:03:54):
Yeah, no, no, no, I'm feeling you're paying Katie. There's
there's a lot of sitting in front of screens.

Speaker 25 (01:04:00):
Please don't because one I don't sit in front of it.
And term an independent woman. And I actually said to
him this weekend, when he was explaining just how much
sport he was looking forward to, I said, why don't
you just do that? Why don't you go and watch
all that and do that in another house?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Not say that another house.

Speaker 25 (01:04:16):
You go and do all that, and I will say
here you and and you just wrap yourself up in
it and enjoy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
It, because all I do and you.

Speaker 25 (01:04:26):
Said, no, I like you being there, And I said,
what hovering in the kitchen?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
No, you said, quote unquote being the little woman, being
the little woman? Yeah, and you are not. You're not
the little woman. Is there any room? Tim? Let me
ask you this as as a neutral umpire here, is
there any possibility that that that you could could make
things better by participating in the sport? Watching yourself.

Speaker 13 (01:04:54):
Could do it?

Speaker 14 (01:04:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Hold on, late breaker, I should have known this. Late
breakers stand by, it's a sprint weekend, so one less
practice and you'll be qualifying for the sprint and then
then you've got to qualify, so there's actually one more racey.

Speaker 14 (01:05:08):
Oh no, no, no, there's no Look, you need to
you need and I'm putting on my parental voice here,
you need to pick what you want to watch you're
going to get. I think a total of three hours
over a weekend is reasonable. And then how can that be?

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I didn't schedule it, Tim, It's not my fault if
practice goes on longer way, and you know.

Speaker 14 (01:05:28):
What, it's not my fault that Netflix has Transylvania Hotel one,
two and three. But I am determining when you are
going to watch it. How you're going to watch it,
how you will engage and how you will disengage, and
also what you will do for your bride to nourish
the relationship this weekend. What's your ant size?

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
That's nice.

Speaker 25 (01:05:47):
Well, he'll just he won't do any of that, tim
He'll just sort of watch the sport and I don't mind.

Speaker 14 (01:05:50):
I don't mind.

Speaker 25 (01:05:51):
It's just he watches it and he yells at it,
and he screams at it, and he swears at it,
and it's so loud and it's it's sort of like
he he has this kind of soul in the lounge
concerts going on, and it's very difficult to do anything else.

Speaker 13 (01:06:06):
No, I.

Speaker 14 (01:06:08):
I've seen. I've seen it obviously. I've seen some of
your Instagram posts, and it's very alarming.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Is good to be passionate about something.

Speaker 14 (01:06:17):
It is good to be passionate about something. But yeah,
I think a bit of the cultar soap for the swearing, Katie.

Speaker 13 (01:06:23):
I don't think you need that kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Language around the home. Do you know anybody that's how
we do it? Do you know anybody Katy by the way,
that went to the Travis Scott.

Speaker 25 (01:06:32):
No, lots of people who in Travis Scott. He only
played for an hour and he had no opening acts.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
So I think our set up producer, our set up
producer took a day off work. No way, that's what
I see. What exactly, That's what I said as well,
I said what in no way, not necessarily in that order.
Took a day off work to go see some loser
turn up a day later, day early. Who knows when
to sing for one hour and leave?

Speaker 13 (01:06:59):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Did you get up to get in any fights?

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Were there any fight? Because there were fights at he.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Was one of that. He was one of the people
involved in the fight in the mosh. But this is
why he's not at work for the rest.

Speaker 14 (01:07:08):
He was in the moshe.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
He was in the moshi beating people up. I don't
know what to do about it. Reef Break More in
the Moment, Tom and Katie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Yeah, it's going well, Mike. You need a man cave, Mike.
The current ones more important than marriage, Mike. I wish
my wife would be like Katie and just let me
watch the sport in peace.

Speaker 14 (01:07:39):
Imagine you know what I think. I was reflecting on
this during the break. I think I've got it right.
I think I've got the hack here for you. So
what you do is you rip it on the way home,
You rip into the pack and save. You get some
of that pancake mix for four ninety eight, You get
the spray on cream for about the same and you
buy a wee bottle of Lindau for about items fourteen bucks,

(01:08:01):
and you surprise your bride in the morning with a
champagne breakfast made by your own quivering hands. And you
can do what you like all weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I used to spray the cream honor, and she doesn't
like it anymore. Is that what you mean?

Speaker 14 (01:08:15):
You ever a rest?

Speaker 20 (01:08:16):
Hey?

Speaker 25 (01:08:17):
It could be worse. You could be on a plane
to New York tonight. Have you explained to your audience
why you're not in the US for the election?

Speaker 26 (01:08:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Good question, Kay, good question. No I haven't I've explained. Well,
I said, such a boring. It's such a boring.

Speaker 25 (01:08:28):
We're going to be on a flight to New York tonight.
And I thought I had a whole week to myself, Well,
that is true. Questionionately, that's now canceled and you're at
home watching sports.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
The key to it is is that the problem is
New York because New York may or may not be
the place we need to be. And if you can
believe this, and it still isn't sorted. As far as
I know, as of this morning, nobody knows where Karmela
Harris is going to be on election night.

Speaker 14 (01:08:55):
I can't let okay, just to jump in, I'm hearing
a lot of outsourcing of responsible was he here are
you kt? Oh, it's not my fault. The f one's
on this weekend. The problem is New York. What else
are you god that you're not responsible for?

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
It's all Carmala's fault.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Well, it's Calma's fault. Here's here's the thing. Here's my argument.
First of all, you gotta know what city is she in?
So she's going to be in Washington or San Francisco,
possibly Philadelphia. Still, so the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday we're
reporting she's going to be in Philadelphia. We'd a story
yesterday from NBC News unconfirmed that she was going to
be at is at Brown University whatever a university is

(01:09:30):
in Washington, but they weren't sure that's true because they
hadn't confirmed. So the next thing is to be in Washington.
First of all, you have to get to Washington, which
isn't the end of the world. Then what do I
need to do to be with Carmea on election night?
What do I need to do? Tim You've done it.
I need to get accreditation from the State Department. Accreditation
a Thursday afternoon or Friday morning as it is now,

(01:09:50):
I can get to the State Department and say, by
the way, I'm going to be in Washington next Wednesday.
Can you give me security clients please? What do you reckon?
The chances of that happening are apart from zero.

Speaker 25 (01:09:58):
Also, international media, as we found last time in twenty sixteen,
they've done Americas couldn't give a toss about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
No exactly exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:10:07):
And so here's why I need this, Here's what here's
here's what you do. I'm full of solutions, I think.

Speaker 13 (01:10:12):
So.

Speaker 14 (01:10:13):
You know when I was at Shallenberger put the plane
down in the in the East River. No it's not
the East River, the other side of the Hudst Hudson,
right so we wanted to land landed yet in the river.
We wanted to film that they wouldn't let us through.
They wouldn't let us through. Then, less to halt from NBC.
The anchor materialized at the security gate with a swarm
of people around him, and of course the gates just

(01:10:35):
opened up, and then me and my cameraman just sort
of sauntered through.

Speaker 13 (01:10:40):
In this.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I need to find John Oliver.

Speaker 14 (01:10:43):
You need to find John Oliver and say where's place?

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
And so I'm with John absolutely and with John Yeah.
So I figured unless I can be with carmelra on election, like,
there's no point in going. Because I saw somebody yesterday
I can't remember who it was, one of the New
Zealand re borders standing in Arizona, and I thought, well,
what's what's the point of standing in Arizona talking to
three people, one of whom talked voted Republican, one of
whom voted Democrat, one of whom voted Jill Stein. And
that's news, That's not news. You got to be well.

Speaker 25 (01:11:08):
Also, the reason that you want to be with Carla
and not Trump is because Trump doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Let any Trump doesn't let the international media in.

Speaker 25 (01:11:14):
So you couldn't be with Trump anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Because we couldn't get in last time in New York.
So we went to Clinton's place. And I would have
preferred to go to Trump's place because it's down the
road from Mary Lago, and I'd far rather be in
Florida than I would be in Washington in a quad
in a university, if in fact that is where she is.
And then if I got to Washington and I went
down to the quad and they went, oh, sorry, Cardal

(01:11:39):
is in Delaware tonight, which is the other place they
think she might be. How pointless would it be me
standing in a quad on a Wednesday night for no reason?

Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
Come on, you're a pro.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
You can make it work. Of course I can make
it work. But it's the week.

Speaker 14 (01:11:58):
Yeah, no, I think we're getting to the root of it. Yeah, yeah,
one West election versus one.

Speaker 20 (01:12:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:12:05):
Sorry, Liam Lawson wins the US election.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Being at home with you on a Saturday night, Cadie
holding your hand beats an election too, see how she laughs.
Nice to see you, guys. You have a good weekend,
no matter what you end up doing at whoever's house
you are at. It is eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
On my cost breakfast with the range rover the laws.

Speaker 20 (01:12:29):
Now.

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bigger the Manchester, yet they always sell out not one,
but two sixty thousand seat football Stadium's a very good point. Actually,
it's just our engagement. I just wonder if our engagement

(01:13:32):
with sport and actually being there and present isn't what
it used to be, Mike, No sports cells at the moment,
not even the AaB's. The crowd that turned up for
the test with these trains, I know it's the AB's
in Japan. I thought the AaB's in Japan were supposed
to be a big deal and that stadium was nowhere
close to being sold out or even and they haven't
been sold out as as far as I remember in
New Zealand for any of the tests, which is a problem.

(01:13:56):
The crowd number question is easily answered. It is Wellington,
remember when it was the coolest little capital in the world.
That's the Windet. No, I don't think it's Wellington at all.
I think it's just it's just it says something about
either the popularity of the sport or the team, or
it will have something a little bit to do with
the economy, and you know how many things can you
go to and how much money can you spend? I
get all of that anyway, It's an interesting discussion. Elbows

(01:14:17):
had the worst of weeks, the Ellen Joyce thing. He
seemed to put it to bed yesterday finally by going
I never called or did anything about getting an upgrade.
But the problem because he took a whole week to
do it, no one seems to believe them. So where's
he at heading into the weekend. He's got a world
of trouble. Murray olds for you after the news, which

(01:14:37):
is next here at news Talk said be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Your trusted source for news and fews the mic asking
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Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
This one will be interesting to follow. It's not out
of the blue, but they're acting Commerce Commission just in
they're're taking Winstone wall boards as in a subsidiary of
Fletchers to court and this goes back to the whole
gym thing. Under sections twenty seven and thirty six of
the Commerce Act. They're in the High Court in Auckland
that they use retroactive teered rebates in plasterboard supply agreements

(01:15:24):
with building supplies between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty two,
and they argue that breached the Commerce Act. In this case,
we allegte Winstone use retroactive rebates to damage competition, ultimately
leading to consumers paying higher prices. So that'll be one
to follow with a great deal of interest, and a
lot of you, I know from correspondence will be going
not a moment to sue, which doesn't pre select the

(01:15:47):
outcome of the court case, and that's why we have
court cases. But I know there's a real vibe about that.
Twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 19 (01:15:52):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business right, murray.

Speaker 26 (01:15:59):
Alters, how Michael, very good morning, made pretty well, thank you,
pretty right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
So Albanesi and Ellen Joyce, if we take elban Ezi
at his word by the end of the week that
nothing untoward happened, I don't, but let's say we do.
How is it given nothing happened, it took him an
entire week to come to that conclusion.

Speaker 26 (01:16:17):
Oh terrible, what a terrible look, as you say, six
days from the time that The story broke last Saturday
from a former nine journalist wrote a book The Chairman's Lounge.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I think it was called I've not seen a copy yet.

Speaker 26 (01:16:30):
But in there the allegation is that over twenty two
years of public service as a politician, alban Easy, first
a shadow, then as minister that again is shadow Transport Minister,
and more recently as Prime Minister, put the squeeze on
Quantus and specifically Alan Joyce, who left last year for upgrades. Well,

(01:16:52):
as you say, it took Elbow a week. I mean,
what please, what's going on? Just look terrible day after
day after day. So finally he comes out and says,
nothing to see here, no phone calls, no nudge nudge winks,
no emails, no staff getting in touch with other staff.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I'm absolutely pure as driven.

Speaker 26 (01:17:10):
Snow, says Elbow. On the other side, you've got Dutton
throwing hand garades, saying you know, it's disgraceful, refer yourself
to the National Corruption Commission and that's really going to happen.
And then all of a sudden, at the end of
the week that he's been absolutely pillaring Antony Albanisi, Dutton's
force to admit, well, yes, he did actually ask a
right wing billionaire if he could borrow a private jet,

(01:17:33):
and the opposition Senate leader.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
She starts the week saying, no, I've never ever taken
an upgrade.

Speaker 26 (01:17:40):
Oh then there's one, and all of a sudden by
Thursday where Albanizi's finally come clean and said nothing to
see here. Bridget McKenzie is saying, well, listen to my
staff are ordering all my flights.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Now, listen the thing over here. But it's the same
over home.

Speaker 26 (01:17:54):
In New Zealand, politicians regularly get perks. I bet they
never touch their bloody kicks for anything. They go to
the football.

Speaker 13 (01:18:01):
They got the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Big yeah, but they got a declared. Now, this is
this is a very good point, Murray, and let me
just work on the new ins and subtlety of this story.
So the declaration, so he started out saying Albanese started
out saying that there's nothing that wasn't declared. So fair enough.
So the people you're talking about, McKenzie and co. They're
all busy saying, well it was declared, and hear them
and numbers and stuff like that, and you're right here,
you get a football ticket anything. I think it's a

(01:18:23):
couple hundred dollars, five hundred dollars, whatever it is, you dee,
you declae your tickets to the rugby and they all
get tickets to the Rugby and Taylor Swift and all
that sort of stuff. The point, wasn't it there was
that he rang Joyce for his family and this was
for private travel. And that's the difference, isn't I mean,
if you're as a minister, if you turn up at
the airport and you go you were an economy and

(01:18:44):
they said you're hello, minister, how are you You're in
that front plane? I mean, it's not your fault. You
didn't ask for it, you just got given it. That's
different to wringing somebody up and twisting their arm.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Isn't it?

Speaker 13 (01:18:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
I would think so yes.

Speaker 26 (01:18:55):
And I mean this week apparently Albanezi got a grave
for his ex wife. Carmel Tebbet is a New South
Wales politician, and there's Nathan who apparently is his plus
one certainly in terms of the perps that are available
for international and national travel. Look, it's murky as anything.

(01:19:16):
Albaneze says he's done nothing wrong. I don't know how
far this goes because he's not going to hear himself
to the National eddy Corruption Commision anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Pup tests, pub test, pub test.

Speaker 26 (01:19:28):
It just looks and stinks and it looks terrible. But
not for the first time. As Albaneze, he blundered from
one political blunder to another.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
We talked to me about the Australian economy. So Solomon
Lou this week, for example, sells a bunch of his
stuff to Myers, gets himself on the board. So he's
a relatively and he's looking he's going to continue with
Peter Alexander and Smuggle and stuff. They seem successful. Then
there's other companies falling over left, right and center and retail,
including a one I can't remember the name of, but
they had a whole bunch of other brands that we
have here in New Zealand. So what's the state of play.

Speaker 26 (01:19:58):
Well, Solomon Lou appears to be the best retailer apart
from Jerry Harvey in Australia. His businesses are doing very
very well, to the point where Maya wants to buy them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
I think he's going to trouse a one hundreds of.

Speaker 26 (01:20:11):
Millions of dollars from that other retailers that really struggling
because guess who's buying everything online?

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Everybody under twenty five.

Speaker 26 (01:20:18):
They just go online by stuff, they don't like it,
they send it back. None of us hanging around schlepping
on the bus up to the local department store.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Well, that's so last century.

Speaker 26 (01:20:28):
So brix and mortar retail is going dreadfully over here.
But for Jerry Harvey and Solomon Leew and guys like
that who've been around a long long time, they can
smell opportunities. And Solomon Lose a very very smart operator,
has been for.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Many, many years.

Speaker 26 (01:20:44):
Look, it's just part of this whole complicated Australian economic
mosaic that, in fact, I think mosaics the name of.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
The company with you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
Yes, it is actually well done.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
So the whole.

Speaker 26 (01:20:57):
Australian economy it looks like it's actually preparing. I mean
there I say it's preparing for a soft landing.

Speaker 13 (01:21:04):
It is.

Speaker 26 (01:21:05):
I mean the annual consumer figures that came out wednesday fantastic.
I mean two point eight percent in the September quarter.
That's the lowest in three years. For the June quarter
was three point eight So two point eight three months later,
the underlying inflation rate that was three and a half percent.
That's the rate that the Reserve Bank looks at, Mike,

(01:21:25):
because it takes out strips out all the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
All the really wild ones.

Speaker 26 (01:21:29):
I mean, you know, for example, gas or petrol and
diesel that down by eight percent, and you've got energy
prices down by damn near twenty because of subs that
is provided by state and federal governments. So those big
big you know, be expenditure items for families and businesses,
they are not included. So, yes, the economy is going
pretty well. But at the same time, you've got people

(01:21:53):
like Solomon lou trousering you know, swags and swags are
dollars because some other businesses are going so badly.

Speaker 3 (01:21:59):
Because I tell well, these twelve hundred companies that didn't
pay any text. Did they pay no text because they
were losing money in on the buge of bankruptcy? Or
are they they running in an operation that you know,
we just you know, we don't pay any tax.

Speaker 26 (01:22:11):
Some of them are struggling, yes, but a lot of
others are doing what they call profit shifting. They are
banking their profits off shore Cayman Islands or Bloody Bahamas,
or Bermuda or whether it might be. So the Australian
Tax Office is going after them. This was for for
financial year I'm just look at my notese twenty twenty
two to twenty three. The Australian Tax Office come out

(01:22:33):
this week says twelve hundred large companies. We don't know
the names of it. Well I don't know the names
of any of them. But the ATO says no tax
being paid for various reasons companies making an accounting loss
or claiming tax office, but also also profit shifting offshore.
So one hundred and twenty four companies have been issued
pay up tax bills to more the value of two

(01:22:56):
point seven billion dollars. But have a listen to this,
just twenty four of those. There's one hundred and twenty
four companies and has to pay up two and a
half billion dollars and they've been identified after an audit
and a review.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
Right now, let me tell you a fun fact. Guess
where Apple as an Apple, Apple New Zealand, So Apple
New Zealand. Guess how much business they did in this
country last year. The ANSWER's a bit over a billion
dollars right right. Guess where they paid their tax, I'd
say they came in islands Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Really they give it to the Australian Tax Office, who
knew what sort of tranteis. So don't you stand there
and Sydney on this bright Friday morning, Murray and tell
me you were getting. I mean, we're giving you our
tax for goodness sake. I mean that's how that was
that allowed? I don't know, it's ridiculous. I don't know.
That's the problem. And not only did they pay their
tax to Australia, not New Zealand for the amount I
can't remember the number, but for the amount of business

(01:23:48):
they did well in excess of a billion dollars, they
paid comparatively about three and a half cents in taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
You know, well they can afford good accountants.

Speaker 19 (01:23:56):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
It's you and I grafting, mate. I mean, look at us.
We're up at the barrows fart and we're barely making
and living in these clowns there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
How do you do? I love it? Just very good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Just keep grafting. You have a good weekend, See you soon,
Hey go, buddy, all the best Murray olds it is.
It's a funny, certain no it's not funny. No, no,
don't love me funny. I tell you, I tell you.
We're about fourteen two.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:24:25):
Said be turn away from nine. What I was going
to ask Murray and we didn't have time for is
I read a very interesting report yesterday about Sky News
which comes to this country sky News as in the
Australian service, the Fox tell Them Rupert Murdoch thing, which
I watched quite a bit of. It doesn't rate, It
has no viewers, and they gave a couple of examples
of programs and you're talking about, you know, forget New
Zealand the fact it's here, but in Australia it's got

(01:24:47):
a population based of twenty seven million people and a
couple of the shows that they talked about have audiences
of about thirty thousand, so in other words, next to
no one watches it. And yet they've got a team
and this came out of the report. They said they've
got a team of eighteen people in America for the
US elections. And so that's the Fox connection obviously, and
what they're focusing on nowadays, and now only reason I

(01:25:08):
want to talk to Murray's. Murray's worked for everyone over
the years, and that part of the world is they
focus on YouTube and they do YouTube clips. So in
other words, the person working for Sky over there is
going to be watched by more people on YouTube and
doing a little clip. And this goes to the whole
TVNZ doesn't make any money any more, interrestrial televisions dying
and we all need to get online and streaming and

(01:25:30):
stuff like that. But they have more audience on YouTube
doing little clips. So you'll do your little clip of
the story. So your story will play out on Sky
News and it might be three and a half minutes long,
but no one's watching that. But no one cares at
Sky because what they'll do is they'll clip that up
until minute fifteen, put it on YouTube. Lots of people
watch it on YouTube all over the world. And that's
somehow is justification for them sending eighty people to America

(01:25:52):
to cover the US election, because a lot of their
audience apparently is in America watching on YouTube, as opposed
to Australians watching Australian television in Australia, which I found interesting.
It's just a constantly unfolding landscape that is international media.
Night Away from nine the cost Breakfast with he didn't

(01:26:17):
have time to talk to Murray about that, but maybe
you should be better with your time management. It's not
a bad piece of advice. Thanks very much for that.
I would counter that by saying, yes, you're probably right,
but there's a tremendous amount of stuff. There's so much
stuff going on in the world, there's literally enough, not
enough time to get into it. I'll give you a
quick property read for the weekend if you want to
know if you're going into an open home. Our boss

(01:26:39):
Jason brought his house this week. So excited for Jason
because we've been invested in him because he's been in
social housing for about six months. He sold his house
and then he couldn't find another house, so he was
ending up in social housing and so we were very
busy looking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
He's been commuting from a motel and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
We were looking on one roof each day. We're looking
at wonder what about this one? What about that one?
What about the next one? Bit fussy? A little bit
fussy we found in the end. But he finally this
week with oh it was not the right kind of
Paul that was the problem. I mean, the shape, the depth,
the color. I said, come on it, it doesn't matter
whether it's tiles, just buy the damn thing. Anyway, he
didn't want to spend a cent over thirteen million, and

(01:27:19):
he got the other beautiful got just under. But here's
the interesting thing. There were four people at the auction,
so that's a good sign. That means the market's fizzing.
Speaking of which, Core Logic Home Value Index this morning
down a smidge in October half a point. Average price
around the country of at matters eight hundred and five
nine hundred and eighty four bucks, sixteen percent higher than

(01:27:41):
pre COVID, so we're still up. Auckland bit flat, I mean,
that's all I can say. It's a bit flat. A
lot of supply, a lot of choice. And that's what
I kept saying Jason, I said, Jason, so much choice,
what's your problem? He couldn't find a house. So much
abundant supply, I'm saying, Jason, Core Logic abundant supply. Still
couldn't find a house. Wellington underperformed, and that's not just
the housing market those Wellington regionally. What can I tell you?

(01:28:05):
Nelson Wonganu he wrote, a rug has been a little
bit up Queenstown Stable and in the the cargo funk
array and napier. I can tell you, unfortunately you had
a little full.

Speaker 11 (01:28:15):
Four minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Fightermins right, Dodgers Yankees, Dodgers got up yesterday. I was
sad as I said to Richard Arnold earlier that we
couldn't go to the game six and seven this weekend
in Los Angeles. But niver less, the Dodgers win, the
Yankees lose. So the Yankees ring up radio stations whining, well, let's.

Speaker 24 (01:28:34):
Talk over the last All morning has been about how
Garrett Cole didn't cover first base.

Speaker 18 (01:28:40):
This entire World Series comes down to aaron Judge. He
didn't hit, and then the.

Speaker 14 (01:28:46):
Game he did hit.

Speaker 18 (01:28:47):
He drops a routine flyball that any little leagal would
have court guys long, he's a disgrace to the Yankee uniform.
He should be stripped of his captaincy. And as far
as I'm concerned, you could trade him to the Mets.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Alright, alright, that doesn't even.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
That's why I couldn't live in New York because having
had the honor of watching Aaron Judge last year at
Yankee Stadium. Last year, he could not miss a ball.
You could have thrown him something at one hundred and
ninety seven miles from now and he would have smacked
it out of the park. This year, he couldn't head
a thing. So the guy was partially right, But you
don't trade him because of that, just the way it goes,
the zibbs and flies. Sometimes the Tuesday show is not

(01:29:24):
as good as the Thursday show, you know what I'm saying.
Every intent to smack it out of the park on
a Tuesday just doesn't come together. And yep, today was
absolutely fantastic. And so it is on that note that
I'm grateful it's Friday, because I don't think I can
give any more. I'll just go and recuperate for the
weekend and we'll see you Monday. Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
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