Full Show Podcast: 02 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Today the Labor Party gets together a list of promises
and whether they mean any things. Zelenski blinks on territory
and the rebels are fired up in Syria. We're looking
to launch our own state controlled satellites, apparently, lads in
the commentary Bucks after a g Richard Ardel and Thanksgiving
Comer and Stea Lights as If Pasky, Welcome to the week,
seven past six. The National Public Health Service are exactly

(00:31):
what's wrong with this country? The Health Minister, who shouldn't
have had to intervene over the weekend and their submission
to the district council looking at the application for McDonald's
and Wonaica. Now, why was the Health Service offering a
submission because the council asked them to. So who's more
at fault? The answer, of course is both of them.
But who's more at fault the Council for creating work
in waste or the service for creating work in waste?

(00:53):
The Health Service, among other things, talked of health. They
talked of health and the widest possible context, the World
Health Organization context, which essentially means anything can be dragged
into the health sphere if you are determined, in my word,
where they determined, they won't be in future because Shane
Ricky told them to stop wasting everybody's time. And the
ironing of the outcome is the submission wasn't even correct,

(01:13):
hinting perhaps that these people have little of any knowledge
of what they're actually doing and simply fill their days
with pointless exercises. They cited tatiity. Of course, what tatillity
has to do with fries and a chocolate shake. I've
got no idea, and I suspect they don't either. But
that is why this is also criminal. Tatillity is everywhere
for no particular purpose. It's over reach is reached well

(01:34):
the point of absurdity. So hundreds of submissions, days of
hearings and the treaty and a government department admolished by
the minister. That's why nothing gets done, and that is
why this country is in the state. It's these people
want to sell a Hamburg. They want to employ locals,
they want to contribute to the growth of the community.
They want to pay their tax. They simply want to

(01:56):
do business. Why is the industry and the apparatus in
not doing business so vast, so complicated, so expensive, and
so wasteful. And who's blowing it up and win.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Views of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
It's not what the election used to smart defection find
one the Irish, but the other two major parties look
set to count a deal. So this bloke is back.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Anybody who makes any projection about who is going to
be the largest party or the construct of the next government,
I think they're a braver person that I am. But
what I am very confident about is in my party
we'll have a very significant role to play in the
years ahead. And I'm cautiously optimistic and excited.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Out of the Trump victory. Comes to the appointment this
morning of Cash Bettel is the head of the FBI.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
He doesn't want the status quo. He wants to clean house.
He wants an FDI that's accountable to the American people,
that restores our system of justice and restores credibility. They've
lost all credibility right now. And I think this is
a tremendous pick. I think it's really exciting what President
Trump has put out the end.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Of the great immigration divide in the UK, so Friday
Stam who was giving speeches looking to have a good crackdown,
but the net fig is vice for last year look
like they actually dropped so into the Tories.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
Some of the measures that we have put in place
will is already bring. They are already bearing fruit as
we've seen the removal, for example, of the ability of
international students to bring dependence. That is the main reason
why immigration has gone down in these latest figures.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
But trouble for labor. It's all very well having targets,
but you kind of need people to do stuff.

Speaker 8 (03:23):
So setting a number and seeing that's the magic let's
say it was one hundred thousand or two hundred dozand
or whatever it was. What happens when we need a
skilled worker for the two hundred and first thousand jobs exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Then we have the Greg Wallace Mastership disaster. Greg decided
that taking to social media would help us cause.

Speaker 9 (03:41):
In the newspaper, I can see the complaints coming from
a handful of middle class women of a certain age,
just from celebrity masterschef.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
This isn't right.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Kirsty Alsop of Location Location local decided, as she quite
often does, to have a word.

Speaker 10 (04:02):
Within an hour of meeting grab ballis this is what
she put on X. He told me of a sex
act that he and his partner at the time enjoyed
every morning. And then she signed off that first tweet
by saying, I'm a hashtag middle class woman at a
certain age.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Finally, the treasure hunt is. John Collins Black has written
a book called The Treasure in Sight. It was inspired
by games like Dungeons and Dragons. Inside a hints as
to where the five chests are around the US must
be might be inside on and we got we got
sports memorabilia, we got gold, we got stones, we've got jewelry,
we got rare Pokemon cards. Each chest is actually worth

(04:36):
a couple of million dollars.

Speaker 11 (04:37):
He says.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
None of the chests are in dangerous areas that require
going up, mountains, are underwater, and if some remain hidden,
He's going to write a second book in a couple
of years time. News of the World of note. Yeah,
the interesting thing about the Irish folk one well, it
was close and the poles said it was close, and
the poles turned out to be dangerously accurate. So Shinfein
technically won with twenty one point one, fine, Gael at

(04:58):
twenty one and fail at nineteen point five. But Gale
and fail of course, as you if you followed Irish
politics had the last government and so they'll form the
next government so someone can win, but they don't get
to be a winner. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
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Speaker 3 (05:22):
Evy can't even tell you what a cluster, the quitar races,
Hultenberg's out, Periers gone, Strolls gone, or Corn's gone, Colar
Pinto's gone, Hamilton Screwgy's about to finish. Norris is under investigation.
Sonoda and Lawson are on softs. They're at the back
of the field, but they've only got about fifteen laps
to go, so they'll be flying. The whole thing's been
squeezed several times by the yellow you know, so it's

(05:44):
a mess. So we'll keep you posted. It's exciting anyway.
Fifteen past six. Eurozone inflation, by the way, which was
the alternative thing I was going to tell you about,
is two point three percent. So if one or two
point three percent, you're choice. Greg Smith froms even Bund's
Management Morning. More so, oh, come on, it's Christmas time
ninety nine point eight.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, this is the A and Z Roy Morgan consumer
confidence So yeah, that's againting the celebratory mood. Things are
on the up and just like business we talked about
that last week, it is from a position of weakness.
But yeah, falling interest rates maybe pick up in the
housing market stay tuned there, and easy inflation. Yeah, they
appear to be the factors, so offsetting and rising unemployment

(06:26):
of course. But the report was titled optimistically almost back
at par so future conditions they are up. Perceptions of
current personal financial situations they are up ten points, but
still negative. Some regional differences. Won't surprise Wellingtonians that they
remain the most pessimistic in the country by some margin.
But overall a net twenty two percent appear to be

(06:47):
expected to be better off this time next year. That's
up eight points. House price inflation that's seen as lifting
to three point seven percent. I'm not sure if the
auction rates are sort of saying that just yet, but anyway,
Perceptions regarding the economic OUTLOK twelve months time rose eleven points,
still negative though and you have to really look at
the five year head measure to get too positive, and
that's up three points to plus nine percent. So in

(07:10):
terms of whether it's time a good time to buy
a major household oneand perhaps over the Black Friday weekend,
thirteen percent say it's a bad time. But that is
up to improved ten points and it's the best since
January twenty twenty two. So yeah, people still feeling the pinch,
and they do seem to be taking some convincing on
the inflation front.

Speaker 11 (07:27):
MIC.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
So those they'd see two year inflation expectations at four percent,
and that's in contrast to businesses which see it tracking
towards two percent, So quite a bit of difference there.
But over all the households and businesses, they are optimistic
about lowerench rates, lower inflation, although that's said, it is
still very tough out there for many, but you will
take the positives, might.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, I think we well, just speaking of positives the
Black Friday, the Thanksgiving business seems to be going well stateside.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, it seems to game very well, particularly online. So
retail sales on the the day after Thanksgiving they grew
three point four percent according to a master card that's
up on last year. But you look at instore up
just zero point seven percent, but e commerce it's booming
up almost fifteen percent. I recalled ten point eight billion
US dollars according to adobeank was spent on Friday. But yeah,

(08:18):
instare traffic declined eight point two percent. So the Americans
that they're shopping there on a hunt for a bargain,
but they're mainly doing it sort of in front of
their computers and obviously mobiles. But it just illustrates the
challenge is still attracting consumers in the price needs to
be right. It is a bromeintive views consumer spending so
yet as a positive one and consumers will we have

(08:38):
been spending over the weekend. So satellite that was looking
for around about five point two billion according to Adobe,
Sunday five point six billion, and today Cyber Monday will
be thirteen point two billion according to four CAUs, so
up seven percent overall. Meanwhile, in New Zealand, Mike, it
seems like it's been a bit of a slow start
despite fifty percent saying they plan to shop on the day.

(08:58):
Preps are a little bit more up and you know,
we've had this Black Friday thing for about I suppose
ten years or so. Americans have been celebrating it since
the fifties and sixties, and Philadelphia an interesting sort of background, there,
isn't it. It was at the day of Thanksgiving in
the Army Navy football game. They coined it due to
the rowdy tourists, and chaoses ensued well, and perhaps kiwis
are a little bit more less.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Rowdy preps might nice.

Speaker 11 (09:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
What are the numbers?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
So we've got a positive end of the week as
well in the US. Obviously fairly light trading given Thanksgiving,
but the day up point four percent to a new
record forty four nine one zero, up seven and a
half percent for the month. S and P five hundred
up point six percent. That's up six percent for the month.
Narsdack up point eight percent. For two one hundred up
point zero seven percent, Nick down point four percent, A

(09:43):
six two hundred down point one percent, eight four to
three six insx fifty. We're up three point four percent
for the month, up point one percent. On Friday thirteen
zero sixty six go on up five bucks two thousand
and six and forty three and ounce oil down seventy
cents sixty eight even a barrel. Just in the currencies week,
down a half percent against the US fifty nine point two,
up against Ozzie ninety point nine, stealing forty six point four.

(10:06):
That's flat. Just looking ahead this week, speaking of salesforce
and consumer spending earning situy Via, we've got some pm
I during the US China. We've got Ozzie GDP as well.
We've got POWE speaking, We've got non farm payrolls mack caan,
we've got building permits, another dairy auction and sinile milk AGM.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
All right, mate, go well, catch up tomorrow. Appreciated. Greg
Smith devon Funds Management pasking. We've founmember the GDP wasn't
as high as they thought it was, so that's a problem.
Two degrees. By the way, good news, significant growth across
the business, positive outlook for future growth. Underlying profits is
up sixteen percent. Total revenue up seven percent. I put
entirely down to the fact they sponsor Fridays after eight o'clock,

(10:47):
but that's just me.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Six twenty. You're a news.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Talks there'd be.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
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Speaker 3 (11:00):
So eight laps to go, Hamilton's last. He's potentially got
another five second penalty. Norris has just served as ten
second penalty, so he's second to Lass. It puts Laws
and thirteenth son to twelfth, so they're still out of
the points, but they are on softs and going for it.
The Stapping still in the lead, Leclaire Piastre and Russell.
Russell of course was on pole, but Russell count started

(11:23):
his life depended on it. How many wars can we
have before the worlds are just completely exhausted? So Sirie
he thought was sorted, but woop, snow it's not. So
Aleppo's fallen Alisad may Or may not fall with it.
I don't know. We'll check on them after seven o'clock.
And then you've got Zelenski over the weekend, going right, Oh,
you can have some land as long as I can
join NATO. Then you got Georgia, so that's your pro

(11:45):
EU pro Russia thing, and they decided to be a
bit more, you know, so they're back on the streets,
so they're not happy with that. Then Romania, which had
an election and a guy from nowhere who campaigned on
TikTok appeared to win. George Escue we got twenty three
percent of the boat didn't get fifty needed fifty. So
there's a second round nineteen percent for the runner up,

(12:05):
which is Lasconi from the Save Romania Union party. So
they were going to go head to head, but they've
decided out of the weekend. The whole thing's dodge. Yeas,
so they want to recount. Now they don't know how
they're going to recount, when they're going to recount, or
how long that recount's going to take, and if the
recount leads to them not having a runoff. But the
world is just a complete and utter shambles at the moment,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
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Speaker 3 (12:31):
Now we've got one of the most popular football shows
in the world CBS. It's the YUEFA Champions League pre
and post show stars Tierry Henree, Jamie Carriger, Michael Richards
and Kate Scott. So Barcelona were drawn to play a
French side called Breast Breest Breast. You see where this
is going. So when Michael Richards pipes up he likes
breast all the time he's banned from the segment.

Speaker 12 (12:51):
You have consistently proven that you can't stay professional in
these segments where we're talking about Brest. So we were
just production would like to ask you were you comfortable
with just staying silent whilst we do this?

Speaker 4 (13:02):
No, we really think it's the best.

Speaker 12 (13:04):
I think it's the best after four games? Who here
likes Breast?

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Like Breast?

Speaker 13 (13:09):
You do too?

Speaker 14 (13:10):
I like the shape them that are going to try
to trouble just wak off each other.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
How much do you do you enjoy watching them?

Speaker 12 (13:20):
Would you pay to watch them?

Speaker 15 (13:22):
I have to.

Speaker 14 (13:27):
You don't have to be big, you can be small
and complete.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
That's interesting.

Speaker 12 (13:32):
Do you think Breast could get exposed tonight?

Speaker 9 (13:34):
I hope so.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I guess one of the things.

Speaker 11 (13:40):
What is this, nons?

Speaker 4 (13:42):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 12 (13:43):
Ban? Do you think Barcelona could come a bit quickly
for Breast tonight?

Speaker 16 (13:48):
Whoah?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
I think it across the line. You're trying to be
So is this is this cancelable or not?

Speaker 9 (13:55):
So?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Is this serious? Or is this funny? You don't know anymore?

Speaker 11 (13:57):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (13:57):
We live in a world in which you don't know.
Barcelona ended up beating Breast three nil. Nissan, and we
were talking about this last week. This is the ev story.
So Nissan had a meeting last week with the UK
government along with BMW. I mean, everyone's just freaking out
globally about what's going on with the car industry at
the moment and all these laws and the EU that

(14:19):
are making these companies go. Nissen, it is reported widely
over the weekend, have twelve months to survive. In other words, Nissan,
one of the most storied car manufacturers in the world,
is allegedly, according to reportage, twelve months away from completely collapsing.
So the question, then you ask, in the bigger picture,

(14:41):
how many car companies need to fall over before somebody
with a bit of authority works out that they've gone
down a very dangerous path and they need to hit
reverse gear fourthwith used for you in a couple of
moments in news talks, there'd.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Be demanding the answers from the decision makers.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover vi La designed
to intrigue can use Tom sad be.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Sort of a race the other day in Brazil. Were
sort of poured with rain and it became chaotic. This
will be in Qatar. I would suspect the most shambolic
race we've seen all season. The Stappins wanted, as you
heard in sport, as far as the constructors is concerned,
because the driver's championship's already done McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull,
that order doesn't change and the gap hasn't closed. They

(15:27):
all got points, but that's not the point. At this
end of the season. You need to close dramatically and
they're not, so McLaren probably have one hand on the Constructors'
championship for the season. Russell, who started pole, ended fourth,
so he'll be probably the most disappointed of the lot
Sonoda and Lawson. They got soft tirees put on far
too early, so they fell apart. So that was a
complete cockup on strategy. So they came at the back

(15:49):
of the field. The back of the field wasn't so
far because half the field didn't even finish, so you
can say we probably ended midfield because half of them
were in the pit lane for most of the race.
So anyway, that's the way it ended to twenty three
to seven FB I picked. As far as Trump's concerned.
Richard Arnold with the News at the letter end of
the Thanksgiving weekend in America for you. Surely they meantime

(16:11):
back here sommers here of course, warm temperatures this week,
Thank goodness about Tom. Anyway, we tend to get a
little bit anngsty about swimming and drowning at this time
of year. So what is Safety set to meet with
the Sports minister. They want a better water education program.
Apparently water safety in New Zealand Boss Daniel Girard is
whether it's Daniel morning to you and Mike. Aren't the
drownings down?

Speaker 17 (16:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (16:31):
Absolutely, this is so far this year we're looking at
a twenty six percent reduction. But there you go, point
in time, this is definitely not a trend.

Speaker 19 (16:40):
Yet.

Speaker 18 (16:41):
We want to celebrate the fact that people are obviously
making better choices and we want to highlight that fact
and share that with our minister and others.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
How gritty of is the data and do you know
where they drown how old they are? Is that you
know whether there are patents to be seen there?

Speaker 17 (16:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (16:57):
Absolutely, We've spent a lot of time and energy around
the data science and the analysis work and really changing
the shape of water safety New Zealand so that we
are purely evidence based we can now identify where clearly
things are going wrong, what people are doing at that
point in time, how long are they're doing that activity
to put them at risk, and what are some of
the things we can do to help prevent and encourage

(17:20):
people to make some different choices.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
How much of it's just playing. It's not that you
can or can't swim, it's just education, getting into a
drinking too much, all the weird stuff.

Speaker 18 (17:29):
Yeah, look, they are significant challenges. But the big thing here,
and the big thing that we're really trying to push,
is that there's a difference between being able to swim,
or a child learning to swim in a nice warm
swimming pool with their cap on and their goggles and
beautiful tiles, to actually being out in open water. And
our data is suggesting that twenty seven percent of eight

(17:49):
year old can't even float for two minutes. So that's
in a nice warm pool. You put them out in
the difficult conditions, maybe a chop, maybe a swell. How
long can people survive. We also see that forty percent
of adults and a self reporting survey say actually out
and open water, I'm that comfortable on that, not that
constant being able to swim and move through the water.

(18:11):
So we've got to give the next generation, in particular
those basic aquatic skills, the skills you need before you
learn to swim to make sure that you are actually
able to keep yourself afloat and then move on to
the fantastic skill of learning to swim and a lifelong
of getting out and gathering ky and having great time
on our waters.

Speaker 20 (18:28):
Where do you do it?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Because you do, I did it in the school pool,
but a lot of schools don't have pools anymore.

Speaker 18 (18:34):
Yes, schools, we believe are the cheapest and the easiest
place for this to occur. So the cheapest of all
versions is to have a passionate stuff. As we know
that school teachers are stretched every which way, but the
basic skills to be able to teach their students these
aquatic skills. So it's very very basic, straightforward stuff. If
you need to go to a council facility or other

(18:55):
places and use professionals to help you, that's where the
cost starts to mount up. But right now we believe
that the schools are the right place. Most schools are
doing something around a quitic education. We just want them
to align with some basic world leading research around competencies
and ages and stages of having the right skills at
the right age and then just rolling that out through

(19:18):
their school life.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Good stuff. Daniel appreciate up Daniel Girard, who's the water
safety New Zealand bo nineteen minutes away from seven Speaking
of outings, Eden Park twelve concerts. How good this Verroukland
listeners particularly, but Eden Park has been a cluster for years.
They finally got permission. They were only allowed six massive
stadium does nothing all day and six times a year

(19:40):
you can have a gig and all the locals going
off loud anyway, so they finally got around. I mean,
why it's not open any night. You want to as
many events as you possibly can have, I don't know.
And if you don't like it because it's too noise,
you don't live in the area. But anyway, there were
more than two thousand public submissions, ninety four percent of
people in support of concerts. So finally we've woken up
to the benefits of having some you know, I don't

(20:01):
know business. So Eden Park go from six to twelve
gigs a year and not a moment too soon.

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Speaker 4 (21:38):
Oh well, good wedding.

Speaker 11 (21:39):
Way.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Now the FBI picked another interesting choice.

Speaker 16 (21:42):
Well, it's another confirmation paddle ahead, it seems, with Trump
naming cash for Teller is his choice to head the agency.
Patella is someone who has been signed by side with
Trump for some years now, speaking out on the need
for retribution against what he calls the deep state. Now
there are several contentious choice through his cabinet and other aids,
of course, but this could be the biggest one of them.

(22:03):
After the first Trump term, Bill Barr, who served as
Trump's ag wrote in his memoir that Cash Pateel was
suggested at one point as someone who might become deputy
in the FBI. Over my dead body, wrote Bill Barr.
In a recent interview, Patel has said he wants to
shut down the FBI headquarters and then reopen the place
as a museum after seating all power to the president,
and Patel said, quote, We're going to come after the

(22:25):
people in the media who lied about American citizens who
helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections end quote. So Patell
has signed on to the campaign statements by Donald Trump
that he would carry out quote retribution against quote unquote
the enemies in the side. One initial issue is that
the FBI post isn't open. The current FBI Director, Chris Ray,

(22:46):
has more than three years left in his ten year
term unless he resigns under pressure or is sacked by Trump.
Ray was appointed by Donald Trump during his first term,
but their relationship soured early on, and then things worsened
when the FBI issued search warrant for classified documents that
Trump had refused to return and kept in the barthroom
and elsewhere at more Lago. That case, of course, collapsed

(23:08):
with Trump's reelection. Jake Sullivan, the current National Security Advisor, says,
the FBI role has been shaped so it does not
become a partisan operation.

Speaker 21 (23:17):
We would like to ensure that the FBI remains an
independent institution insulated from politics.

Speaker 16 (23:22):
Well, we'll see why, don't we. Some Republicans agree with
that this has yet to be determined. They've been remarkably
weak in defending US government systems when they're challenged by Trump.
Democratic Senator Chris Murphy says he is a no vote
on Patel.

Speaker 22 (23:36):
Caspartel's only qualification is because he agrees with Donald Trump
that the Department of Justice should serve to punish, lock
up and intimidate Donald Trump's political opponents.

Speaker 16 (23:50):
Well, Patel was alongside Trump during much of his New
York trial. He has also taken in hundreds of thousands
of dollars a year in advising Trump related groups. So
this will be in a historic confirmation fight.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
And we got the hostage video.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, this was brutal.

Speaker 16 (24:06):
The release of that three and a half minute hostage
video showing one of the Americans held captive, Eden Alexander,
basically pleading for his life. His mum has reacted.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Wendy cried, I just want to hold them and I
want him to know that we are doing everything that
we can to bring him home well.

Speaker 16 (24:22):
President Biden also has responded with this message to Hamas.
We are working actively, says the President, in relation to
all of this, the only way out is to release
the hostages, including American citizens, which.

Speaker 11 (24:36):
They hold well.

Speaker 16 (24:37):
National Security Advisor Sullivan is offering some hope. Perhaps take
a listen to what he's saying.

Speaker 21 (24:43):
We are working actively to try to make it happen.
We are engaged deeply with the key players in the region,
and there is activity even today. There will be further
conversations and consultations, and our hope is that we can
generate a ceasefire and hostage deal.

Speaker 17 (24:58):
But we're not there.

Speaker 16 (24:59):
Yeah, I've had similar comments so many times, haven't we.
Even Alexander has been health more than four hundred and
twenty days, totally inhumane in the midst of his ongoing
in humanity all round, All.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Right, catch up Wednesday, appreciate it. Richard Arnold states, so,
by the way, Greg gave us the US numbers or
some of the US numbers out of Thanksgiving in Black Friday, spending,
Cyber Monday and all that sort of stuff looks like
a record in Australia as well. Roy Morgan and forecasting
six point seven billion over the four days. That'll be
the biggest on record, five point five percent increase compared
with twelve months ago. Retailers quote unquote a feeling cautiously optimistic,

(25:32):
which is good here from all my reading, and we
won't get anything until today. Sometime didn't look nearly as good.
It was over hyped, I think. So we'll report on
the numbers tomorrow. For you're ten to seven.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate used talk.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Zby I have for you this morning. The twenty twenty
five World's Best Cities Report Resonance, in collaboration with IPSOS,
talked to a lot of people twenty two thousand people
around the world in thirty countries. They looked at liverability, lovability,
and prosperity, which are very world category. So I'm deeply
suspicious of the whole thing. But it's Christmas, so let's
have some fun. So Singapore tenth most lovable city in

(26:07):
the world, mainly because of the food seen in the shopping.
Berlin because it's ig call that is true. Do buy
at number eight because basically they are the world's playground
now and I think that's probably fair as well. Madrid
it's seven. You don't want to be defined as a
tourist because they'll squit you with a water pistol. But
apart from that, they got a lot of parks and

(26:29):
they got a lot of outdoor spaces, which as far
as I can work out, it's the same things. An
outdoor space is a park in a park as an
outdoor space. But if you're happy in Madrid, there you go.
Seventh most lovable city in the world. That Hellna is
number six. Once again, don't identify yourself as a tourist
because they'll run you out of town. But it's got
good night life's got good beaches, got good sunshine. So
that's the sixth most lovable city in the world. Number

(26:52):
five Rome because of its history, so that's useful. Tokyo
restaurants and shopping. I'm sure there's more to Tokyo I mean,
having been Tokyo, there's more than that, mind you. All
I did was eating shops, so I spoke, what do
I to? So that's the fourth most lovable city in
New York, New York cultural, really New York cultural. I
suppose top tier dining. Second most lovable city Paris for

(27:14):
the shopping and the sight seeing and the way the
French welcome you so openly and kindly to their city.
In London, there you go. Museums and nightlife in London.

Speaker 14 (27:28):
It's quite contrast, isn't it. Museums are It's quite a
contrast museums and nightlife.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Because they're not open late, so you're obviously doing something
after the museums are closed. All the museums close at five,
if not four, certainly not open on a Friday. I'm joking,
five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
All the ins and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's the fears with business fiber take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 11 (27:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Germany's problems now infecting other people in the EU. So
when Germany gets a cold, as they say, Switzerland gets
the flu, Germany's a bar good case. So the alarm
bells are going off in Switzerland. The Swiss manufacturing sector
huge hits lately due to the current weakness in the
German industry. The Switzerland's top trading partner, the Swiss National Bank,
the SMB. They're set to make their next interest rate

(28:14):
cut in a couple of weeks. So far this year,
they've dropped their rate three times. They're now down to
one percent, so not much room there for movement. More
cuts to come. Seventy two percent possibility, they're telling us
for a twenty twenty eight percent chance of fifty. This
is all happening December twelve, by the way, can you
believe it's December? How mad's that the cuts have come
after inflation slowed? How much has it slowed a lot?

(28:36):
Inflation tends to slow when you're not doing anything as
an economy. We'd know about that zero point six percent
lowest than three years. It's within the SMB's targets, everyone's
target of zero point two percent. So that's been in
between the margin for eighteen months now. So they got
some real problems. They clearly don't have the important inflation
that we tend to have in this country. With the insurance.

(28:57):
I assume they've got insurance country problems. Assume they've got
local councils that are charging everybody too much. Andrew Little,
Labor Party conference over the weekend. Weird think the best
thing I think the Labor Party did over the weekend
was picked the Isaac Theater. I mean, that is a
fantastic place. If you haven't seen that since the refurbishment.
What a beautiful place to pick. So at least the
Atmos was good. They handed out a price to a

(29:18):
Nyama Hootera. I mean, that's the most astonishing thing. The
most incompetent foreign minister of the modern age loses a seat, vanishes,
and then she pops back after a year to pick
up a prize.

Speaker 14 (29:32):
Was it like a wooden spoon or something.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
It was like a really good prize. They thought she
was fantastic. It was a you're a really cool person prize.
And I'm thinking, come on anyway, Andrew Little is whether
it's after seven o'clock and then Chris Hipkins joins us
after seven thirty Monday morning. Sport of course, got to
get into that guy Hervelt and Andrew seven on the
commentary box. Meantime, the news is it is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
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Speaker 1 (29:55):
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Speaker 3 (30:05):
Togs dad be falling seven past seven, So the Labour
Party picked the very nice spot of the Isaac Theater
and Christach to have their annual gab fest. Orcus has gone.
The Dunedin Hospital has originally promised us back in the
tobacco tax break on heated products is canceled. Bit of
a sledge at the government as well.

Speaker 14 (30:20):
Look back at our history.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
We excel when we bring people.

Speaker 20 (30:24):
Together rather than drive them apart as this government seems to.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Want to do.

Speaker 11 (30:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
The former Labor leader Andrew Little is with us. Very
good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (30:33):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
What'd you make of it? What's the vibe?

Speaker 19 (30:37):
Yeah, I think I think, you know, for a party
in the first year in opposition after a pretty slammed
set of result last year, they felt it together. Well
during the year it's been very disciplined. They know is
they've acknowledged things they got wrong. Well, we got wrong
in government. Things have to change and I guess this
was about checking out what the change starts to look like.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
What's happened with Orcust given it started with you, and
it's sort of been this mysterious Pillar two thing and
we'll have a think in a chat and we'll work
something out and then suddenly it's gone.

Speaker 17 (31:04):
What happened there, Well, good christ, I think.

Speaker 19 (31:07):
I mean the reality about it is the species they
talked about not signing up to a nuclear sort of
war things, well, the reality is we were never signed
up to the nucro propelled submarines part of it, and
on all the things that in aucus, that's the one
thing that is likely to collapse because it's always needed
the approval of US Congress. It hasn't got that in

(31:28):
the last two and a half years, it's unlikely to
get it now for some time, so they'll probably go.
The other part of it was joining with our long
standing traditional partners UK, Australia and the US on developing
new defense technology for stuff that'st of used to us,
like remote maritime patrolling, that sort of thing. Saying we'
I'm going to sign up to it is kind of

(31:49):
one thing. I think the lost opportunity there in the
weekend was to say we understand that our natural security
and defense needs our changing because the situation is changing,
and this is what i've because the reality is this
current government having promised, for example, a defense capability plan,
which is the list of new investments back in June,
then to September, we still don't have it, So there's

(32:11):
a bit of dithering going on. Later could have distinguished
themselves in that respect exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
So what are we saying with the Pillar two thing
that we don't want to be closer to America and
we like China, or we're not saying that.

Speaker 15 (32:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (32:23):
I don't quite know what the post position is that
in ours that we're not signing up to August August.
I don't know what that means in practice, because those
three partners are partners who will get most of our
defense technology from that. Anyway, we'll always get it from them,
So we're not signing up to that. We still have
to have a relationship with them what we're going to

(32:44):
and we still need new defense cat So I suppose
what I guess would have hoped for is a bit
of an indication about how we're going to manage those
relationships in the future.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Speaking of maritime surveillance, As the next Minister of Defense,
what do you make of the man and the revelation
that no one seems to know how to work an autopilot.

Speaker 19 (33:03):
Yeah, it seems to be comminent the maritime genevi out
of Teddy. But yeah, it's disappointing to see.

Speaker 17 (33:10):
I mean that was you know, that was.

Speaker 19 (33:12):
It displays an important role for our navy and our
relationship with the South Pacific country. It's really disappointing to
see what happened. I think due to the Collins is
right to express their disappointment, and I guess it's the
next thing is to see who's going to be held
responsible for it with the next stage of the Court
of Inquiry's cly.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Good to talk to you appreciate it. Andrew Little, former
labour leader, former defense industry of course. Ten minutes past seven. Yeah,
the August thing's weird. I just don't understand it. It
seems to have come from nowhere. There seems to be
no logical explanation for it. We supposedly didn't know anything
about it. Anyway, We'll talk to Chris Hepkins about it
in about twenty minutes or they're about now. A couple
of international developments over the weekend. One Zelenski seems to

(33:51):
have blinked Russia and have some territory if Ukraine gets
to join NATO to the Syrian walls back former UK
defense attashe in Moscow, John Foreman's with us from Britain
morning or indeed does Zelensky move over the weekend week
or not?

Speaker 13 (34:07):
No, I think it was a good idea. I mean,
obviously this is all about Donald Trump, and missus Lensky said,
actually his interviewed, that there'll be no ideas, that everything
needs to be more detailed. So I think missus Lenski
is trying to fill the void by putting forwards her
proposals ahead of January when Trump becomes president.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
So when putincy is also we can rely on Trump.
You know, smart man, he'll sort something out. What's he
gunning for?

Speaker 13 (34:33):
Well, I think I've thought for a while both sides
I heading towards some sort of cease fire MESSI compromised
deal in the new year. I mean Russia just said
out its stall earlier this year about more of us
of capitulation from the Ukraine aside from the Ukraine's and
turned now said we're ready to accept some form of
ceasefire and peaceful territory swap only with a guarantee of

(34:56):
security guarantees from NATO. So I think both sides on
influenced Trump, who's kept his cards very close to his chest.
Actually the only person really has is miss General Kellogg,
whose plan actually there was very much sort of negotiation
and peace through strength. Ialue that Native membership would get
de lay, but America would actually provide some form of
security assurances to Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
If Putin gets a bit of land but they get NATO,
can he sell that as a wind domestically?

Speaker 13 (35:22):
I think that's difficult, because you know, we know how
much Putin set his stall against NATO in fact force
justifications of the war in.

Speaker 17 (35:29):
The first place.

Speaker 13 (35:30):
I think President Leski said that Putin wants Puttin thinks
that Ukraine's part of Russia. He wants to destroy Ukraine,
so that would be very difficult for him. And I
think native membership has always been an absolute firm red
line for the Russian side. So whether it's actually NATO NATO,
or whether it's a selection of NATO countries to provide
security guarantees to Ukraine in that piece deal, would that

(35:51):
be acception. I think we'd have to see if I
think we've got a long way to go, and I
think things will depend on how things turn out over
the winter, and you know, by the exact front line
and the exact situation, both us fund themselves in right
January February.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Flip side, can Zelenski sell NATO and but a loss
of land.

Speaker 13 (36:08):
Well, we've seen I think politics hasn't gone away from Ukraine.
I think we've seen Presidents Lensk's popularity is slide and
the number of people inside Ukraine who want some called
piece deals for prison So there's that sort of tension.
It would be very difficult, after I think almost three
years of war to say we're going to give all
his temporary acquaied territories. I think was clever, but he
said we're not going to give up our claim to

(36:29):
all of Ukraine. This will be a temporary end to
the hot phase. And now though it's the first time
he's talked about it, these sort of rumors and discussions
have been around Kia for a long time. So this year,
especially as the situation has gone against Ukraine on the battlefield.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Okay, and then while I've got jip Syria, does Elisad
survive this why now? And Russia and Iran too busy
to help out.

Speaker 13 (36:53):
Yeah, I'm not a great expert on Syria. I would
say from the Russian respective, I think the rapid advance
of the opposition forces has caught everyone unawares, especially the Kremni,
which's been massively distracted by the war in Ukraine. Of course,
you Rand's been distracted and of course Sad allies and
has been hammered by these railers over the last a
few months. So we've seen how much Russia treats Syria

(37:15):
as a client, because I said, quickly pleued Moscow to
get his orders, and we've now seen a round of
purist diplomacy. But I think the problem is that, you know,
Russia has less leaders than it might have had a
few years ago. It hasn't got the troops because they've
all been bogged down in Ukraine. The aircraft we poured out,
the air defenses they gave to a said were also
pulled back, so they've resulted to bombing. But whether that

(37:37):
will actually affect the situation aground that it's very confused
at present. But I would say there's a lot of
people in the Syrian opposition who want to seek revenge
on the Russians for murdering tens of thousands of Syrian
civilians over the last decade.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
All right, John, appreciate it. John Foreman, former UK defense
in Moscow. Cora Manel got some good news for you,
sport Up to Ride of course, fifteen past seven, first full.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
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Speaker 3 (38:04):
News Talks seventeen past seven. Been building for something good
in the Corimandel this summer, isn't It looks good walking
access to the cathedral cove. But I'm sure you're well aware.
Is some reopen so along with twenty five A, well,
they could well be booming the Corimandal meal insult is
Will this lend very good morning to you?

Speaker 23 (38:21):
Morning, Mike, can do very well?

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Thank you. How big a thing is the cove in
terms of you know, bringing people to the region.

Speaker 23 (38:29):
Oh, this is huge for us, but you know it's
kind of an early Christmas present, isn't it for us?
And last year we had the early Christmas present with
the opening of twenty five A ahead of schedule. So
it's don't expect this to happen every year, Mike, But no,
it's big for us.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
They said December, didn't they They said it will be
opened by December, and I think they've delivered on that.

Speaker 23 (38:52):
So I wrote to the Minister on the first of
December twenty twenty three and I said, congratulations on your
new job, mate, We've got a problem here. Can you
help And he came back to me and said, look,
I'm going to give you a commitment to have it
open by the first of December twenty twenty four.

Speaker 17 (39:11):
And he was as good as his word.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Fantastic And is it a permanent fix in terms of
what they've done infrastructurally speaking, this is a long term thing.

Speaker 17 (39:19):
No, it's a temporary fix, Mike.

Speaker 23 (39:21):
And it's part of a whole reconstruction or a development
of the walking access not just down to.

Speaker 17 (39:28):
The cove, but the other bays.

Speaker 23 (39:31):
We've got Gemstone Bay and Stingray Bay which is still
closed to access, but there's other there's historical sites there.

Speaker 17 (39:39):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 23 (39:40):
Work being done with between Doc and Nati Hay, who
are local EWI and very very collaborative and respectful work
because we've got to respect, you know, the katiarchy of
the of the whole area. And there's some good work,
but it's in progress. It's probably another couple of years work.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Fantastical. I hope you have a very good summer where
a len appreciate it. Courrimandal merely insult with us. The
uchest thing, Mike just show is how addicted to ridiculous
ideologies the Labour Party is labor Gabe Pold their base.
They don't like aucust political decision, not a mature one.
I'm not sure half the people in the Labor Party
would know what to I don't think anyone knows what
Orcus has pillar two because no one's got to the
bottom of it. Mike, listening to Andrew Little, I think

(40:20):
most of the people at the Labor conference think Orchist
is a marine at Mammal. What's entirely possible they do, Mike,
is their light? Is there a light with a label
saying auto pilot clearly visible on the bridge of the ship.
Let me come back to that. In the moment seven twenty.

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long a bow? Am I drawing an unfair bow? I
ask you this Monday morning, when I try and link
what happened to the Manua to what is happening in
this country generally seems to me a landlubber. Admittedly, the

(41:50):
two major ships won, a fairy won a Navy vessel
came to grief in exactly the same way in the
same year. Admittedly, the manor will was vastly more serious,
given it to the bottom of the ocean, and the
fairy backed up and went back to wood. Autopilot is not,
I would have thought a hard concept to understand. And
yet as I watched the Head of the Navy on Friday,
in front of a picture board with an almost comical
extendable pointer, he was explaining it was though it was

(42:11):
the stuff of rocket science. As they adjusted the thrusters,
they didn't respond because the autopilot was on. Hmm, not
really that surprising. When the thrusters, he went on didn't respond,
they adjusted the thrusters again. It's time backwards once again.
As he pointed to the photos of the thrusters, they

(42:32):
didn't respond. That is right, because the autopilot was still on.
The message I received from his labored, pointy explanation was
if the auto pilot is on, the thrusters aren't in operation.
Now call me a smarty pants, but that is essentially
what autopilot is it is the pilot for the ship
in an automatic mode. No real point in it if

(42:55):
you can just muck around with levers and knobs, And
so she ran aground listed they all bailed, and here
we are. It is, of course inexcusable. I would have
thought beyond any explanation and will require I assume some
people to leave the service having been booted out the
connection to the country. Well, we are wayward. We are
real disciplined, we are disheveled. We lack vigor and determination

(43:16):
and a desire to be better. We have lost our way,
not all orbus, but enough of us to provide an
increasingly comprehensive picture of a country of averageness of lasadaisical complacency,
a country that produces too many people asleep at the wheel,
a country on autopilot if you like, which suits us fine, until,
of course we need to wake up and change direction.
I haven't even got to the bit where the ship

(43:36):
is worth a hundred million bucks. We undoubtedly Osama a
lot of money, given it was caused by idiots, and
we are presumably the laughing stock of the entire military world.
But what other excuses there? How else? Do you explain
the inexplicable asking. And then we come to the CRL

(43:56):
the press release and all the French are flying in
for the special meetings in them. The alarm bells have
been rung. The press release made public was a quote
complete mistake. This comes to us from the Auckland Council
Chief Executive Phil Wilson at once again I quote it
was a cock up. It was intended for was not
intended for the public agenda. So the French construction executives

(44:19):
they're winging their way into the country. I think they
arrived today for a meeting tomorrow while quote unquote the
horse had bolted. The appropriate thing to do was to
move the report to the confidential section of the Council's
Order and Risk Committee. And they're going to do that tomorrow.
They're not going to do it today because there probably
it is probably a work from home day, but they'll
get back to the office tomorrow and when they get
back to the office they'll slip it to the appropriate department.

(44:41):
It's a seven page report now in the confidential section
under the Local Government Official Information of Meetings Act. Quote again,
it was a human error situation where somebody didn't tick
the confidential box. That's correct. There is a box marked confidential,
sort of like there's a button marked auto pilot. Nobody

(45:04):
hits the right button, and when they do, they don't
know what to do. I think on the business of
this country being a bit wayward and laxadaisical, I think
I can probably rest my case there can't I can
I then say, speaking of wayward and laxadaisical Chris Hopkins
as next door, would that be a little bit unfair?
News is mixed.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
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Speaker 3 (45:33):
Lads after right twenty three minutes away from my back
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But they are keeping out of the QT for an hour.
What God announced was the Dunedin hospital back asked for
the original promise, the tech tobacco tax break for the
heated product is gone, orcus is off. Labor leader Chris
Hopkins with us morning, Good morning, I was saying earlier
on this morning, best thing you did was pick the

(45:54):
Isaac Theater. How Good's that's amazing?

Speaker 20 (45:58):
Venue, and actually when you realize that it was mostly rebuilt,
so the bit they're supposed to look old is actually
the newest part of the theater and then the stage
is out the back, which you know, sort of they're
the bit that survived the earthquake, so exactly amazing.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Then you and as a home handyman, you would have
appreciated the workmanship.

Speaker 17 (46:17):
I really appreciated the workmanship. I was.

Speaker 20 (46:19):
I was most impressed with the way they'd managed to preserve,
you know, the historic sort of plaster work and stuff,
or at least replicate and restore it. Incredible building.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah, did you read Peter Dunn's article over the weekend.

Speaker 20 (46:32):
No, I haven't seen that one.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
He says the government's going pretty well and compared with
a lot of governments around the world, they're actually performing
quite well. You wouldn't want to hear that.

Speaker 20 (46:43):
Oh I don't agree with that obviously. I mean I
think that there, you know, overall, our economy is getting
worse rather than getting better, and I think that some
of the actions of their taking and contributing to that.
So if you look at the twelve thousand odds fewer
people who are employed in building and construction at the
moment compared to this time last year, I think the
decisions of this government to stop a whole lot of

(47:04):
building projects, like statehouse building projects and school upgrades and
so on, has actually contributed to that rather than made
it better.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
And at no point do you accept that the six
years of urineptitude not yours. Specifically, you're only responsible for
a small part of that ineptitude, but no part of
that ineptitude is responsible for where we sit now, and
it takes more than a year to put it right.

Speaker 20 (47:27):
I think there's no question that the global response to
the global pandemic, including in New Zealand, contributed to a
number of the things that subsequently happened, including the spike
in inflation. Now, a lot of that actually in New
Zealand was driven by decisions that were taken independently by
the Reserve Bank, but overall, the response to COVID, including
things like wage subsidies and so on, had a stimulus

(47:48):
effect which then led to inflation. So you know, New
Zealand wasn't alone in that, but decisions that we took
as a government did contribute to that. I think the alternative, however,
was to see a who lot of people losing their jobs,
which also wasn't a great alternative either.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
And you won't concede that of all the countries in
the world, no one's had three recessions and two years
like we have. And that's a direct outworking of your
government and adrenal.

Speaker 20 (48:15):
Well, the decisions that this government have taken have contributed
to the economic situation that we're into the moment. I mean,
they've been in government for a year now. I know
they want to including through a whole budget cycle. Another
want to continue to blame the previous government for everything
that's been happening, But actually they need to start accepting
responsibility for the decisions that they have taken.

Speaker 17 (48:33):
They are the government.

Speaker 20 (48:34):
They've been in government for every year.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Even though you and government spent your full six years
blaming the previous government, so you had two full so
you didn't take your own advice.

Speaker 17 (48:43):
Well, I don't think that that's true.

Speaker 20 (48:45):
I mean, I think we would say that some of
the long term decisions that previous governments took, such as
not investing in schools and hospitals and so on, had
a long legacy effect, and then includes decisions of the
previous government. I think we were well and truly in
the position where we were accepting responsibility for the current
economic situation that the country was in when we were
in government the parts that we controlled. It's interesting that

(49:06):
the current government say, now, oh, there's a whole lot
of international factors that are contributing to New Zealand's economy
being in the position that it's in, when just a
year ago before the election they were saying, oh, it's
all labor's fault and none of this is to do
with international factors. Well, I don't think things have changed
that much in the last year to be Frank.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay, August, have you seen something specific or is this
an ideological decision of yours over the weekend?

Speaker 20 (49:28):
I well, at principal, Mike, I think you know, Aucus
ultimately is a nuclear submarine packed. If you look at
Pillar two of Aucus, it's not something that we think
is going to be in New Zealand's best interests to
be involved with.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
If you have you actually specifically looked at Pillar.

Speaker 20 (49:43):
Two, well, only the details that are publicly available, and
you know, ultimately we've made the decision that New Zealand's
best interests will be best be served through our existing
international arrangements, including things like the Five Country Partnership, that
we have any access to things like new technology should
come through the avenue, not through the ORCUST arrangement.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
That's fine. I'm just working to see it was under
your government that it started and it's been sort of
trapped ever since, and I can't work out whether anything
actually materially has changed or whether you just decide you
don't like it.

Speaker 20 (50:18):
Well, I think UCAS if you look at the way
it's perceived internationally, including in our region, it's perceived as
part of the polarization of geopolitics in our region, and
I don't think that's something that's going to be in
New Zealand's best interests to be actively participating in. I
think we should continue to have good, you know, strategic
relationships with the US, the UK and Australia, but we've

(50:39):
also got to recognize we've got other partnerships in the
in the region and they're not happy with AUCUST. Well,
China is one of them, but our specific nations partners
are not particularly comfortable with ORCUS either, and I think
we have to be eyes wide open to that.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Okay, Dunedin Hospital to what extent will you build it,
no matter what the bill.

Speaker 20 (50:59):
We said, that will build it to the specification that
we agreed to at the last.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Election, no matter what the past election.

Speaker 20 (51:06):
Well, I mean peering in mind that the previous that
the current government before the election was saying they were
going to build a hospital is even bigger than the
one that we were courting.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, but forget that. This is your promise that, at
no matter what cost you were, whatever it was going
to be, specification wise, you will pay that bill.

Speaker 20 (51:21):
We will we will build a hospital to the respect
that we had agreed to before the last election.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
That's okay, currently sitting in over three billion. Where's that
money coming from?

Speaker 20 (51:29):
Well, that's not that's just not true, Mike, because that
includes the whole lot of things that were in the specification,
including a big car parking building that was never part
of the original specific.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
So you think it's still one point.

Speaker 20 (51:40):
But they've loaded in things like radiology, which was actually
excluded because that's likely to be built by a private sector.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Okay, that's that's fine, But you are saying, under your
specifications you will build it. If the bill's above one
point nine, you will pay for it. Where's the money
come from, well.

Speaker 20 (51:56):
The multi year capital allowance that the government has every
year to spend and so.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
That's all borrow. We'll make sure because we're back, we
don't have any money.

Speaker 20 (52:04):
Well, when you're building new assets, so you borrow, unreasonable
to borrow. It's not unreasonable to borrow for assets that
are going to have a forty fifty plus year lifespan
and then pay them off over the lifespan of those assets.
That's actually quite prudent biscal management.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
And you would have more money, of course coming in
because of the CGT.

Speaker 20 (52:23):
Well, we'd have more money coming in among other things,
because we're not going to give a taxt bak, a
two hundred million dollar taxt baak to tobacco companies, which
this current government have agreed to.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Yeah, but the two hundred million is nothing. I mean
that's pocket change in the cost of a hospital, and
that's fine. But the CGT, how much do you reckon
that would bring in?

Speaker 20 (52:38):
Well, we haven't, we haven't agreed to a CGT. Yes,
it's one of the options on the table. We've set
out our text policy. Yes, closer to the next election.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
But if you did have a CGT, how much would
that be bringing in roughly.

Speaker 20 (52:49):
What depends on the decisions you make about Watson scope
and what's out of scope. So there's still a lot
of water to flow under the bridge before we've agreed
a policy on that.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Do you reckon out of the weekend, you're closer to
a CGT you were before it.

Speaker 20 (53:02):
I think we're certainly closer to tex reform, and you know,
I think that's going to be a good thing.

Speaker 17 (53:07):
If you look at it.

Speaker 20 (53:08):
You know, when we started talking about this fifty years
ago as the Labor Party, we were the only people
talking about it. Now everybody's saying, actually, New Zealand's tax
system needs reform. So you know, I think and I
think that's a good thing. I think it's good that
people are talking about it. And you know, I think
we are closer to seeing public appetite in New Zealand
for reform of our tech system.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
All right, good to talk to your Precipkins Labor Party leader.
I wouldn't say, what do you think of that? You've
already started telling me what you think of it, So
perhaps some of that in a moment seven forty five.

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Speaker 3 (53:43):
Whereas Tom and it's away from My favorite part of
that was this, did you read Peter Dunn's article over
the weekend?

Speaker 17 (53:51):
No, I haven't seen that one.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Nothing's changed all the stuff I haven't read. By the way,
I did read he'd done his peace over the weekend.
Government doing better than other global first term governments. And
he makes, as he always does, a very good point.
The United States, Britain, Germany, ALBANIZI have all had difficulties.
The jury is still out on the influence current government

(54:14):
policy is having on these settings. He refers to the economy.
There is a general, although unquantified and unsubstantial, assumption that
things are going to get better over the next couple
of years. However, the government is so far is doing
better in keeping the voting public largely on side than
other first term governments around the world. And I think
in that he is probably accurate. But of course the
Pillar two thing was fascinating, and talking to Andrew a

(54:35):
little earlier on and I just I assumed that Hipkins
had read some in depth secret report around Pillar two.
Have you, though actually specifically looked at Pillar two.

Speaker 20 (54:48):
Well, only the details that are publicly available, so.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
He hasn't thought about that.

Speaker 20 (54:53):
It's just the same old courts of these days. I
don't get time to sit down and watch the news. Sorry,
what was that. I didn't read much of the news
over the weekend.

Speaker 14 (55:01):
It's just crowdhoad day. It's absolutely groundhold day.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
It brings back Mike haunting memories. Didn't answer a single question.
Mike Labor never met a TAXI didn't love. Mike Hopkins
takes no responsibility for anything he and his government had
inflicted on New Zealand. Are dead man walking Chippy wall is?

Speaker 4 (55:19):
He?

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Because as Kien macinnaughty was elevated to whatever the job
officially called, you know, to run the election, he sort
of proved he doesn't want the leadership. He said he
doesn't want the leadership. Now, hopefull you'll believe him. I
believed him all along. He said it with such conviction.
I have no doubt he doesn't want the leadership. Mike
Good starts so then but who else? See this is
the point. If not Chippy, who else Mike Good start

(55:41):
to Monday morning with a good laugh, poor deluded Chippy.
And so it goes as about several hundred others. But
you know how they go, tim and ten minutes away.

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Speaker 3 (55:56):
Away from It looks like we could get into the
satellite business. Government wants to law which one that we
can control. Currently we rely on the Brits and the Americans.
People like that. The Auckland University physics professor Richard Eastershell,
there's Richard morning, Good morning. Is this a thing? I mean,
this is something countries aspire to do. It's what you
want to do, it.

Speaker 24 (56:14):
Is I mean, And the government has a space strategy
and number one in the space strategy is to develop
our sovereign space capabilities for the National Space Mission.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Okay, cool, So how would we do that? How many
satellites would we need? Just the one or a whole bunch?

Speaker 24 (56:29):
That depends. I mean, if many cases you might want
to work up to something with a couple of trial satellites.
In other cases you may actually need more than one
because you know, in lowest all but given satellite is
only over New Zealand maybe twenty minutes a day, and
so you might want to have multiple coverage, do we?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
I mean as Peter Beck changing the game and Elon's
changing the game, and to get these things up there,
it's so much cheaper. Therefore we're in the we're in
plane now.

Speaker 24 (56:58):
I think it's more than in the case of New Zealand.
And you know, completely unexpectedly, New Zealand is a huge
player in the space industry as a result of Rocket Labs,
and that's not something that you would have necessarily guessed
fifteen years ago. You know, there's one hundred companies trying
to do what rocket Lab does and it's only rocket
Lab that's doing it.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Okay, do we lose anything by piggybacking with the British
of the Americans?

Speaker 24 (57:22):
You lose in particular the ability to have sovereign control
of so you know where the data is coming from
and nobody else can turn it off.

Speaker 17 (57:30):
It may not be so much a.

Speaker 24 (57:32):
Government that we're piggybacking with in those cases. In the
cases of a lot of this observation data that's increasing
that they're provided by private firms, okay, and so you
may hope to be able to do it cheaper than them.
On the other hand, if you do that, then obviously
you know you're trying to compete for the one off
against somebody who's doing company in Bolk.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Okay, if we pulled the trigger this afternoon just to
ruin to this, could how quickly are we up in
business and up and running.

Speaker 24 (57:56):
The key thing is to decide what to do, and
so I think I think the real question is whether
the scope of the questions that have been asked about
are ambitious enough.

Speaker 17 (58:07):
There's a lot of.

Speaker 24 (58:08):
Countries that want to do this, and a lot of
times what they produce is is what's sometimes known in
the trade as a participation trophy. You know, we put
our thing up there, we put ourselves on the backup
for it, but we haven't actually done anything. Novel on you, right,
And you know, given how given New Zealand's unique position
in the space industry worldwide, I would say, you know
that you'd want to be providing the minister is something

(58:30):
that you know she goes and tell the other space
minus is that you know that they're excited and they say, wow,
it's amazing you guys are doing that. And I think
that would be the test out. And I don't know
that that question is being asked.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
It good point, Okay, Richard appreciate your expertise is always
Richard Easter or Can the university physics professor. And I
assume that Peter Beck's doing it for us and those
sort of people that probably takes the Air Force and
the Navy out to play. Therefore, when we go and
launch the satellite, it doesn't I don't know, to run
into something or go into.

Speaker 14 (58:56):
Well, you mean you actually have to take it off
automatic pilot or.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
I have old Andrew Sevill both well as fellows. Good
morning to you, Good morning morning, Andrew. Don't give me
the corporate flannel. But I happened to watch a little
bit yesterday. I was watching because I'm certainly flannel. Well,
I mean, I don't give me there, don't give me
the Chris Hopkins answers. So the numbers on stream, So
I'm correct in saying to watch the cricket in this country,

(01:01:22):
this is the black Caps yesterday. To watch the cricket
in this country, you've got to stream it on TV
and z AM I correct or am I completely.

Speaker 17 (01:01:28):
It's on our Duke channel as well on Free of You.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Okay, do you have any numbers? Is anyone watching it
or not?

Speaker 17 (01:01:35):
No, I haven't checked the numbers. I was thinking about
that last night. Maybe I should check the numbers before
I come on with Mike, but I haven't. But I'd
say they'd be very very strong also.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
So not not strong on the KPIs then, So so yeah,
I let's check that before I go on with Mike.
And here we are with Mike. I'm Mike, by the way.

Speaker 17 (01:01:50):
No, no, it was late. It was late last night.
I was singing about you before I drifted off to sleep,
and I thought, I.

Speaker 15 (01:01:56):
That is Chris Hopkins areas not reading things read.

Speaker 11 (01:02:02):
Much.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
It's a sky have Elton Chris Hopkins on them.

Speaker 17 (01:02:05):
And now what I'll do for you, what I'll do
for you in the next couple of days is take
out my corporate flannel win it under the tap, wash
my face and get those numbers for you. However, you're
not going to be here next week.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
No, no, no, no, I'm not no, I'm it's.

Speaker 15 (01:02:20):
The secret of December. This is like starting to be
like Christmas music. When are they going to start playing
Christmas music and shops Win's.

Speaker 17 (01:02:27):
Mike, get it take me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
That's that's the thing. That's so what I've decided to
I've decided to align myself with the Christmas music. So
when the Christmas music stops, it starts.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I stop.

Speaker 17 (01:02:37):
And when Parliament stops sitting when.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
You don't even get me started on you, you take up.

Speaker 15 (01:02:43):
I was pulling.

Speaker 17 (01:02:43):
I was actually pulling out the advent calendars for the kids,
you said, and I thought, December first, Mike, must be
just about you to go on holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
That's very good sense, that's very good. So let's enjoy
these final few moments while we can. By the way,
you're not on the show next to your sav We've
sacked you.

Speaker 17 (01:03:02):
But that's certainly using the corporate flannel, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
That's exactly right? Now, what do we start with our
guy to tell me? So I was watching this cricket,
just go back to cricket. First of all, did you
notice christ which looks a bit parched? Do you notice
that from the aerial shots?

Speaker 15 (01:03:19):
I didn't think that it looked a little bit dry.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
You go to the port Hills, you're getting around the
port Hills that just needed like a sprinkle.

Speaker 15 (01:03:27):
Yeah, And considering that's the start of summer, I don't
know what it's going to be like there is the
summer if it's a dry summer. Look, the cricket was
heavily disappointing. And I've heard a lot of people talk
about selections and all that sort of stuff or the
bottom liners, And the thing here is if they took
their catches, they would have been right in that game.
They dropped eight catches. Eight catches. This is a team

(01:03:49):
that used to be the leading fielding team in the
world cricket were there by no means that anymore. And
this wasn't a one off. They have been pretty poor
in the field now for probably the part of a year,
maybe even slightly longer. I don't know what's happened in
that regard.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Because what do you do about that. There's nothing you
can do about that, is there. That's not like you
go on Monday. You go, right, guys, let's do some practice,
some catching practice, because I mean.

Speaker 17 (01:04:13):
They do teams practice anyway, right, These teams practice catching
all the time. Okay, outfield slip catching in close the
problem and guy would know about this. Guy would know
about this because he's got two left hands anyway. But
in a cricket team, when someone drops one, yes, everyone
else thinks, oh god, I hope the ball doesn't come back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
Psychological?

Speaker 17 (01:04:32):
It's contagious. Yeah, that happens a lot.

Speaker 15 (01:04:34):
It's massively psychological, and says right they. I mean, I
don't know how many Black Cats trainings I've been to,
but every single training they would spend at least half
an hour, maybe forty five minutes on their catching.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
And this is a funny because I would have I mean,
I know they do that. But what I'm what I'm
saying is you can't improve. You can hit a ball
up in the air and I get under it as
many times as you like, am either good at catching
or I'm not. Yeah, I mean it's not going to change.
It's not a skill you can improve.

Speaker 15 (01:05:03):
Is it? Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:05:04):
No, it is it is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
How can you improve you? How can you improve a
skill of catching the kitchen?

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
You can?

Speaker 17 (01:05:09):
You can improve your reactions and the slips and that
using a slip cradle or whatever they use these days,
you can improve.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:05:16):
Isn't that.

Speaker 17 (01:05:20):
The all Black still practice passing and catching a rug can.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Because there's nothing else to do. I mean, but what
I'm saying is if I was first slip, I'd be
a coiled spring at all moments, ready to go.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
Well.

Speaker 15 (01:05:33):
And I think that's I mean, I think that's possibly
part of the test of test cricket, is that five
days you've got to be concentrating all the time. And
I don't know, maybe their concentration was slightly off.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Because I'm saying that's a mental thing.

Speaker 15 (01:05:45):
Yeah, these catches weren't overly difficult. Yes, some of them
were hit hard, but when you're a professional that's been
playing for X amount of years and you're on the
international stage, they weren't tough. And that's the difficult thing
for me to process is that.

Speaker 17 (01:06:00):
So you think, Mike that once you get good at catching, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
You either can or you can't. It's like handy coordination.
There's no amount of practice on hand eye commination.

Speaker 17 (01:06:09):
Keep practicing, of course, you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
Keep practicing, but it's not to materially improve. It's not
to go, look, hey, I know you're really useless at catching,
but let's do one hundred and see if we can
make you a black cap. Doesn't work that way. You're
either good at it or you're not.

Speaker 15 (01:06:24):
But if you if you stopped practicing for say, let's
say they didn't do any field in practice, as you're
semi suggesting, that'd be terrible.

Speaker 11 (01:06:32):
In the field.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Well, they were terrible in the field, so they probably
need to practice more.

Speaker 15 (01:06:36):
But that'd be even worse. I mean, it's just like,
I don't know, it's like doing anything. If you don't
do it for a while, you feel a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I've never found that guy. That's my problem. I just
I just I think you you reach a point of perfection,
and I just wonder if you were down at third man,
whether he's looking at the porthills and thought, jeez, they're
a bit parched, And the next thing you know, there's
a ballway something like that. Brief Bragg more at my
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Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Right, so here it is morning, Mike. I'm with you.
Isn't you need to catch a ball like riding a
bike once you've mastered it. It's what you do and
that is true. That's what I'm saying. So your reaction
time is what you're looking to home. But the reaction
time is something that's on the day. There's what you
do on Tuesday and Wednesday. Reaction time wise is not
applicable on a Friday or Saturday.

Speaker 17 (01:07:38):
But you can improve your reaction time by practicing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Can you I read the RECOI specialist?

Speaker 17 (01:07:45):
Look, there are specialist fielders in the slips. There are
specialist fielders out in the deep who have better arms
and are faster. Yes, there are specialist positions, but you
need to practice.

Speaker 15 (01:07:54):
Okay, on the reactions thing. Imagine let's take Lee and
Lawson for example, if if they didn't practice their reactions,
they'd be crashing all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Yeah, but that would be more c I can specifically,
so you sit in the simulator and you aim for
the apex of the corner and when you get on
and off the break and stuff like that, timing. I
get that.

Speaker 17 (01:08:14):
But then all right, well you don't do you think
Roger Feeder are one all his grand slams? And then
you know, I don't want to I'm not going to practice.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
No, no, no, But that's different. That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying that catching is such a natural basic skill,
whereas putting a bit of spin on a ball and
putting it down the center line exactly when you want
to do it, at the speed you want to do it.
That's a whole different level of and of course you
need to practice that. It's like going back, I'm going
to practice serving. You know, you don't practice serving. What
you're doing is you're practicing a specific part of the serving.

(01:08:44):
You're at the next level. Whereas catching is just catching
a ball's up in the air and it falls into
your hands or not.

Speaker 15 (01:08:50):
I agree to disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Okay, Hey what about Taco fall.

Speaker 17 (01:08:56):
Well, I'm not sure if it's been the.

Speaker 15 (01:09:00):
Best move so far. I watched the game on Friday
night or Thursday night. Was he was the first game
of their double hitter. Well, he's he's he's massive, I'll put.

Speaker 17 (01:09:11):
It that way. He's empowering presence. Yeah, he too?

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Is he so massive? He's not effective a little bit?

Speaker 15 (01:09:17):
And I don't think he's quite got the movements around
the court that they really need, and they haven't figured
out how to play with them and use them to
their advantage the most. This is from me just watching
one of their games this.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Weekend, because they lost both of them.

Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
Yeah, and it wasn't I mean Thursday or Friday night,
whatever game it was. That first one against Llawarra was dreadful.
They were dreadful and and the interesting thing about this
is that if you read in between the lines from
hearing from their coach, it doesn't sound like he had
he wanted exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
What was that about? Why as a coach, even if
you even if you know you had some issues behind
the scenes, why would you go on national television and
sort of say, yeah, we got this guy I didn't
really want him. I don't know what I'm going to
do with them, but we'll give it a crack. I mean,
what the hell's the point of that?

Speaker 17 (01:10:02):
He just hacked off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
It was not professional, Andrew, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (01:10:06):
Look, I think what he wasn't using the corporate flannel, clearly.

Speaker 21 (01:10:10):
I think.

Speaker 17 (01:10:13):
It just might take time before to get into those
into the into the into the regime and the tactics.
Look under the under the basket. He can block, he
can rebound because he's so much taller than everyone else,
so it will probably work in the end. It'll be
intriguing to see how it develops in the coming weeks,
but they can't afford to lose too many more game agreement.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Tell you what. The highlight of the weekend for me
was at Auckland FC. They got a half decent crowd
in the rain and it was a shocking day. And
they're unbeaten. They're so far ahead on the rest of
the table that's embarrassing. They haven't had a single goal
scored against them. They are the Hellburg winners. I've made
up my mind. I know we did this, and I've
asked other people, but if they go in with.

Speaker 17 (01:10:53):
There's a different Halburg winner. You can't hand them out,
will he?

Speaker 26 (01:10:58):
Nelly?

Speaker 17 (01:10:58):
Look, look, look fantastic womans. And what they're doing, Mike
is they're playing entertaining football. They're actually quite a joy
to what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
I agree.

Speaker 17 (01:11:05):
And then you think next week, next week they were
already they solved this return local derby game out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
We looked up for tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
You know what they're going for four hundred and hundred.

Speaker 15 (01:11:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I'm not I've never been a
massive football fan, but that is the thing I'm looking
forward to the most this weekend is the Phoenix again.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
If you build it, they will come. And that's the point,
isn't it. You know, you come on. So here we
are and we're good, and we score and we draw
a crowd and we're gonna win the championship and we're
gonna win the hell big award.

Speaker 17 (01:11:37):
Men will start a team from scratch twelve months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Mike is that unheard of.

Speaker 17 (01:11:42):
Would often often protein like the Warriors had three or
four years and to to surge into life. But this
this club has done it very very quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
World. Pardon the Warriors. What year did they surge into Life.

Speaker 17 (01:11:57):
Ninety ninety five. But they got the license about to
or three years before that, didn't they.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
I don't know. I'm still waiting for them surgeon to life.

Speaker 11 (01:12:03):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Finals, all right.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
But.

Speaker 15 (01:12:09):
What's what's on the holiday plans?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Well, I don't know, to be honest, it's quite as
a suggestion.

Speaker 17 (01:12:17):
Here's a suggestion.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
He's got so long.

Speaker 19 (01:12:19):
It's got so long.

Speaker 15 (01:12:20):
He doesn't actually know what.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
I'm navigating the world. You're got around the world.

Speaker 17 (01:12:31):
You hit the wine cellar in the first week, so
that's a right. Hop's actually I don't suce you reread
reread Guy's email about our horse racing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Well, aren't we waiting for the sale the page.

Speaker 17 (01:12:45):
You go Andrew the eighteen page home that he sent
out to us about what sort of race horse for
going to get, whether it's got four legs to two
eyes or whatever. And I heard back from Mike, but
I didn't hear back from you, Andrew.

Speaker 3 (01:13:00):
He doesn't know how to use email. Hey, listen, we've
got to wrap it up.

Speaker 15 (01:13:02):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Listen, very merry Christmas to both of you. And I
think at least one of youse back next year when
we come back. So so go well, Happy holidays, Merry
Christmas and all that. Andrew sevil Guy have ld A
twenty three the my.

Speaker 4 (01:13:14):
Costing regusness with the Range Rover.

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football teams. There's a bit of that, but you can't
take anything away from what Auckland is doing. It's absolutely
brilliant Lydia Thorpe, craziest woman you've seen in ages. More
shortly with Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
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There you go, Bridget, Now we're in business. You have
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Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Steve Right, Well, it's across the Tasman morning mate. Good
that I happen to have a little bit of the
Australian Golf Open on over the weekend and they were
playing two courses and I looked them up on a
map and they appear to be ten minutes apart, and
there was the men in the women's tournament. One was
at Kingston Heath and the other one was at the
Victorian Golf Club. Are they good golf clubs?

Speaker 17 (01:15:40):
Victoria Golf Club, Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:15:41):
I went there on Friday and walked around ten holes
watching some of the best female golfers in the world.
They are on the sand belt. They are about ten
minutes apart right Kingston Heath. One of the members there
is one of my favorite people, Ex Premier Daniel Anne. Jeez, yeah,
I got him from down here Portsy but he's a

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member there.

Speaker 17 (01:16:03):
Beautiful golf course. Is pitty About the weather.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
I was going to say, it looked blowy and it
looked like it could pour with rain at any moment.

Speaker 11 (01:16:09):
Did it did both things? Roaring wind and a hell
of a lot of rain.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
Yes, okay, and of course Sydney got smacked over the
weekend with flooding and everything.

Speaker 11 (01:16:19):
Yeah, the weather in this country must be global warming oppresent.
Has been very unpredictable in the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
So are you forecasting a long, hot, dry summer or
we just don't have a clue.

Speaker 17 (01:16:31):
What are you after? Clickbait?

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Not very good. The pub who is it?

Speaker 11 (01:16:38):
Well, it's a group of pubs. It's called the Australian
Venue Company. This story broke Lake yesterday. I couldn't believe
it when I read it. I've done some checking on
who these people are. But they run two hundred venues
across Australia, pubs, places where people go and drink. They've
got sixty pubs in Victoria, ninety in Queensland, they've got
twenty in South Australian, ten Incydney, so massive, two hundred venues.

(01:17:01):
They've decided to tell all of their hotels that on
the twenty sixth of January next year, you are not
allowed to celebrate Australia Day because what reason. Well, quote
from their media release, Australia Day on the twenty sixth
of January causes sadness and hurt in the community, and
so you are just to treat it as a normal day,

(01:17:22):
even though it's a national public holiday and it is
Australia Day. And that's what most Australians in pile after
pile after poll have said that they want that day
to stay the same. The wopeness in companies like this
is extraordinary. When I did a bit of digging, which
I hope the rest of the media do. The CEO

(01:17:43):
spoke for Waterson, but this group also it's a private
equity basically started up in Southeast Asia. They also own
four and twenty pies, so you couldn't get more Australian
than a four and twenty pie. And yet they say
don't celebrate Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Unreal the reshuffle coming. I think it's early jan isn't it.
This is just shortened or were We don't know how
big it's going to be.

Speaker 17 (01:18:08):
To be bigger than that, I think, I mean Bill Shorten.

Speaker 11 (01:18:10):
It was from the right of the Labor Party obviously,
and so the right faction would expect that they would
have one of their members fill that vacancy. It seems
like though what Antony Albanize will do will be installed
probably an ALP member from either Queensland or Western Australia

(01:18:30):
where he needs to win seats at the election. So
that's one of the reasons why he would do that.
That means that the local branches are then out campaigning
vigorously for him to be re elected. Bill Shorten decided
to step down. He's gone into the job as chancellor
vice chancellor at Camber University on a million dollars a year,
So why wouldn't you exit a government that's looking shaky

(01:18:50):
at the moment the election campaigns really started already. Anthony
Albanize will be out on the campaign trail today. No
date yet, I can't tell you when it's going to be.
You've got every date from March to April to May.
I think if the poles stay the same and there's
no interest rate cut, you'll hang on as long as
you possibly can.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Mind, do you want to take into account the whether
you want Tom Mountain a nice Sunday Saturday, don't you probably?

Speaker 11 (01:19:15):
Which would? You could probably say that April would deliver
that for you. April twelve is one date of quite consistently.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Boomingham we haven't talked since Boomingham left. On the other side,
is he is he a major or no?

Speaker 11 (01:19:29):
Considered a wet Probably no loss to the coalition to
be honest. And so they'll have a new senator from
South Australia. They wouldn't even have a clue that they're
going to replace them it at this stage.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Right, So I'm watching the video and the snakes, so
hand on heart, you're on and I assume it was
the freeways that it looked like the Tullamarine.

Speaker 11 (01:19:51):
Yeah, monaster.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
So the snake's coming out of your dashboard and hand
on heart and it's up your leg. Would you pull
over the way this person seemed to pull over in
an ordered manner.

Speaker 17 (01:20:05):
No, it's stop.

Speaker 11 (01:20:06):
That can't get out in the middle of the layer.
I don't care what man I mean, and I would
just flee. I mean, I have my partner in Australia
is a keywig and she has an absolute fear of snakes.
This woman was from Kolak in Western Victoria. It would
appear that she left the door of her car open
at some stage and the snake got in there and

(01:20:28):
it was up behind the dashboard and she was driving
along an eighty kilometers an hour, felt something on her leg,
looked down and a tiger snake, which is the fifth
most deadly snake in the world, I should point out,
was slithering up her legs. She somehow managed to shake
it off, pulled over safely on the side of the road,
got out, screaming hysterically as anyone would, was taken to

(01:20:51):
hospital in an ambulance. And some bloke turned up, who's
a snake catcher? He said, these things give off some
sort of musky scent and he has to smell la.
And it worked out that it was in the boot
of the car and grabbed it and stuck it in
a bag. That is everybody's nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Let me tell you, i'mreal Lydia Thorpe. I'm reading what
she did at Tullamarine Airport, So she did you know,
the business last week? Then she gets to Tellomarine Airport
and she's yelling at people, the security guards, and so
is she having a breakdown of some sort.

Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
I wish I could say yes to that, but probably not.
I mean, she just demands it love's attention. Thinks that
screaming out free Palestine and everybody is a smart thing.

Speaker 9 (01:21:30):
To do.

Speaker 11 (01:21:31):
She's a senator now out of the Greens and Independent,
and she's there till twenty twenty eight. I mean, this
is the problem with our system if you get reelected
at the right time. She's on two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars a year to run around sticking her middle
finger up at people, ripping up bits of paper and
screaming at everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
So on, pretty bad, I reckon, all right, might see Wednesday.
Appreciate it very much. Yeah. So she's at Tellomarene Thursday night.
She goes through the crowds in the terminal. She passes
a member of the Australian Federal Police and snaps Adam.
She's still wearing her Blackfellow's Palestinians tank top, turns to
the officer demands to know if he's ready to use

(01:22:12):
his weapon a machine gun at the airport. For f's sake,
She shouts the AFP's counter terrorist first response to Team
Carey short barreled rifles at the nine major airports around Australia,
not machine gun, So she's wrong. Before the flight, she
had been spotted and enjoying a drink with three companions
in the quantas Chairman's Lounge, which of course you get
invited to if you're an MP, after spending hours on

(01:22:34):
the lawn outside Parliament at a rally denouncing what she
called Colonial HQ. So straight from Colonial HQ to the
Chairman's Lounge for a couple of week and then to
make a complete full of herself at the airport a
forty five the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I should mention that the other story that's floating around it,
but even the Sydney Morning Herald, who are a well
known left leaning sort of organization, have had a crack.
I happened to watch it the other day. Is guy
called Kim Williams who's the new chair of the ABC
Public Broadcaster, and one of the first things he did
when he got there was where he's sacking a whole
lot of people at the moment, but all because they're
in dreadful shape. Like the Public Broadcaster here, they have

(01:23:15):
losing audience all that sort of stuff, so they're doing
something about it. And one of the first things he
did with the website was he said, this far too
much fluff on this website, to far too much clickbait.
Do some proper journalism get onto it? Anyway, as a
result of that, I was looking at some numbers the
other day. Their website's gone back to number one on Australia,
so he's onto that. But anyway, gave the speech at
the Press Club the other day about public broadcasting and

(01:23:37):
all that sort of thing. So I was watching with
the deal of interest. Anyway, I woman called Jane Norman,
who's one of his reporters, asked how the National Broadcaster
could capture and similar to that of Rogan, the inference being,
of course, the ABC is not particularly popular anymore, but
Rogan is. And he said the following, I'm not a
consumer or enthusiast about mister Rogan and his work. People
like mister Rogan pray on people's vulnerabilities. They pray on fear,

(01:23:59):
they pray on ans, they prey on all the elements
that contribute to uncertainty in society, and they entrepreneur fantasy
outcomes and conspiracy outcomes as being a normal part of
social narrative. He found Rogan's reach in the US deeply repulsive.
Doesn't like the popularity at all, deeply repulsive. I am
also absolutely in dismay that this can be a source

(01:24:20):
of public entertainment when it's really treating the public as
plunder for purposes that are really quite malevolent preach. Would
it surprise you to know he's a former I can't
remember whether it's clarinet or flute.

Speaker 14 (01:24:35):
But when players are other smartest layers in the orchestra.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
But of course the problem is he doesn't have an
audience and Rogan does. That is depressing, and he hates Rogan,
but he still doesn't have an audience.

Speaker 17 (01:24:51):
So what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Turn away from nine.

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Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Speaking in your morning Heralder is a piece under the
headline that caught my attention. What other countries do to
control chi'll on social media access? Because, of course, last
week the Australian government passed what will turn out to
be a foolish bit of law that will achieve basically nothing,
And so what do they do around the rest of
the rest of the Britain are no current plans norway
they propose raising the age at which children can consent

(01:26:16):
to the terms legally required to use social media to
fifteen years from thirteen. They're working on legislation to set
an absolute legal minimum, but that's gone nowhere. EU they
need parental consent. France past the law requiring platforms to
obtain parental consent. Do you think that's worked. No, technical
challenges mean it's not yet been enforced. So it's the
same thing. So what Australia thinks it's doing, I've got

(01:26:39):
no idea. Germany, parental, Belgium, Netherlands. Itally all around the
world is where you look if they do anything at all, basically,
and it's like the business of buying booths online. Are
you eighteen? Click? Yes, I am. Whether the person is
or not makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. Other story that
got up my nose this morning, this reporting of women
working for free for the rest of the year. It's
a scam as well. It's another one of the little

(01:27:00):
you know, send out a press release and get yourself
some news. It is not women being paid less. Women
aren't paid less. We don't sit in this country and go, oh,
you're a woman, I'll pay you less. It is the
job that is paid and women for whatever reason. And
that's an interesting conversation in and of itself. But it
is the job that women tend to choose to navigate

(01:27:20):
towards that is paid less. You pay for the job,
you don't pay on gender. And until you work out
the difference between the two, we will get nowhere fast.
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popular song from the film according to the list, sung
by Dwayne Johnson and Rachel House.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
Six hundred and fifty one million. These are all New
Zealand dollars. Oh our specific place, look at their current
exchange R six hundred and fifty one million New Zealand dollars.
Highest global opening weekend for an animated film ever three
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seventy three million big opening, Biggest Thanksgiving opening in the
US ever for an animated movie. Domestically overall, it was
the highest grossing Thanksgiving weekend ever seven hundred and twelve
million collected from Moana two, Gladiator two, and Wicked. Glicked
or glicked. I think that's what they came to, wasn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:28:43):
So they didn't like my wiki aid to suggest they
did not.

Speaker 19 (01:28:46):
They did not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Much better than Dwayne Johnson's Black Adam film, which was
supposed to be a game changer. What there was one thirteen,
one thirteen is pretty good. Don't don't, don't don't just
one thirteen, one thirteen millionaires not two.

Speaker 14 (01:29:00):
Yeah, but it didn't change the hierarchy of the DC
universe wherever, as he promised it was going.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
To thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:10):
Yes anyway. So that's good thing is people are back
at the movies, and if you make it, they're prepared
to spend the.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Duck any way.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Back tomorrow morning from six as always Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
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