Full Show Podcast: 03 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Head, be Morning and Welcome today. Good news around our
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mixic as well, Husky Welcome to Wednesday seven past six.

(00:31):
Not surprisingly, the apologies started flowing yesterday. They're being issued
Auckland the airport apologized, said sorry for what sounds like
a horror show on Sunday, as everyone decided the wind.
Yes it was windy, but not alarmingly so, just windy,
but everyone at the airport decided life needed to stop
because of it, people who had landed. Funnily enough, the
wind didn' stopped flying, but once you had landed you

(00:52):
were trapped on your plane for hours. Apparently ours literally ours,
because doors became an issue. Doors and wind are a problem,
while they are if you decide they are, which they did.
People quite rightly, were apoplectic. The sorry came with the
usual safety first nonsense. Safety first has become an excuse
for fear, hasn't it. They closed Cornwall Park, as we've
discussed on the program this week, a whole park, a

(01:15):
massive open space, was closed for wind, and they made
the announcement the day before. The wind hadn't even arrived.
The forecast could in fact have been wrong. Often is,
and yet no, let's announce the matter a day in advance.
The Auckland Harbor Bridge was of course closed on and off.
Given we have had wind before, I thought to myself yesterday,
Given we've had wind before, I mean wind, I am
told has been around for many years. Now what was

(01:37):
it we did with parks near bridges and bridges generally
in god dare I use the phrase the good old days?
I lived in Wellington for a decade, the home of wind.
I've landed in proper wind, real wind. But when I did,
I got off the door somehow must have been opened.
As a kid, I never saw a closed park. Wind
didn't seem to be a thing. When did wind become

(01:57):
a thing? When did the fear take grip? Is this COVID,
I mean, did COVID give us license to basically become
feeble to second guess anything in everything? Orange warnings, red
warnings from the met surface. You know they're new, right,
you realize that they are invented just recently. Why so
we can be more afraid? Can chat GBT tell us

(02:17):
whether the phrase just in case and health and safety
first has seen a gargantuan increase in usage post COVID.
I still at Seattle Airport. Once in a blizzard, you know,
like a proper blizzard, snow, ice and wind. They de
iced the planes, they swept the runways. I took off
the Los Angeles And here's the thing. The authorities will
never convince us there. Right, because we hold the common

(02:39):
sense card. We can see fear induced bs a mile off.
So the apologies mean nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Chinese love and continues, lads having an awesome time.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
The memory of being brothers in arms, trusts, mutual assistance,
firmness into fans in common interests, the basis of the
comprehensive partnership and strategic cooperation between Russia and China in
the New era. We were always together then we remain together.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Now there's a woman who's in the parieties having an
awesome time to yeah, very much.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
In the actual hurry, training is the main focus every day.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
It's not most honored to be part of this military
parade and to be reviewed by the Party Central Committee
by General Secretary S.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Gimping and this solemn, signified and secret moment.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
The shop owners are having the businesses up into because
of the parade route. What can you do.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
It's a little disruption, for sure, a little impacts, but
we all understand.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
It's a once in a decade event that showcases the
nation's strength.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
The occasional half day disruption is no big deal. We
time back at night at headquarters. I haven't forgotten about
its plying the other day, you know, and LED's dirty dealings.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
This stretch from the Russians is increasing every day. Let's
not be naive about it. This might also involve one
day Luxembourg, my country, the Netherlands. We are all safe now.
We think that you are far away from Russia, but
are very close by.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Very close by. And a couple of things in Britain. Firstly,
poor rolled a bit. The Home Secretary has had to
admit that the one in one out migrant deal with France,
it's really sort of hundreds in but none out in
You why she's a fighter. We're moving extremely fast.

Speaker 9 (04:16):
To have had the announcement made, the treaty signed very
swiftly afterwards, and now to have the first people in detention.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
We are clear.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
It is a pilot.

Speaker 7 (04:24):
It needs to build up.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
She's literally shipped no one out so far. And the Greens,
by the way, and Britain have a new leader. Polenski
is his name, although it wasn't until recently. I'll tell
you about that later. Who's also a hypnotherapist. Anyway, Apart
from that, he's perfectly.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
Normal, whether it's the two child benefit cap, the disability cuts,
the genocide in Gaza. My message to labor is very clear.
We are not here to be disappointed by you, we
are not here to be concerned by you.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
We're here to replace you.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Wait till you hear more about them. News of the
World in ninety Yes, not only bet Cooper, but Reeves
has got real problems. The interest rate on the thirty
year government bond is now at five point six nine eight.
Is that bad? You bet it is. It's the highest
level now since nineteen ninety eight, so the markets are
worried about this. The German, French, and Dutch bonds have
gone up higher since twenty eleven, so they've got major,

(05:17):
major debt problems at the Eurozone generally. By the way,
two point one percent for inflation. They thought it would
be two, so that's hotter than they thought. Core inflation
stayed steady at two point three. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
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Speaker 2 (05:38):
Trump's about to speak, which is just as well because
we all thought he was dead. Do we all thought
he was didn't know? He didn't think that anyway. Federal Judge,
this is California, so underlying California anyway, deploying the National Guard,
he can't do it. They're not allowed to make a rest,
they're not allowed to search locations, they're not allowed to
do crowd control. He was sued by the state of California,
so he's lost that. So we're expecting the say something

(06:00):
on that. Another matter. Shortly, it is fifteen past six.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
JM.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Lot Andrew telling her good at morning, Very good morning, Mike.
Now this these these numbers are means and more than
the pause, and we've gone backwards at a phirly Steve.
What happened to here?

Speaker 10 (06:14):
Yeah, very interesting After a string of fairly uneventful global
dairy trade auction outcomes, last night was definitely not uneventful.
So I're supposed to get to the chase a very
weak global dairy trade auction over nice. At the headline level,
the global dairy trade price index has fallen four point
three percent. That's a pretty significant four. Now, back in July,

(06:36):
you might, mate, we've got a bit of a shock
when the similar thing happened and the price to the
nextpel four point one percent then, but then subsequently we
had sort of three relatively stable outcomes, but you know,
four point three percent, pretty notable decline and some very
chunky moves and the key products. Just looking at the
smaller products, butter down two and a half percent, which
is great if you are a consumer of butter, but

(06:57):
remember we also make the stuff mozzarella down four point
six percent. But the real action was in the you know,
the big products, the ones that count skill milk powdered
down five point eight percent, and whole milk powder down
foo point three percent, and if we just delve into
that a little bit more, the skill skim milk prower
average price two thousand, six hundred and twenty US dollars

(07:19):
per metric ton. Now that's the lowest level in over
a year, and whole milk powder at three thousand, eight
hundred and nine US dollars, the average price back to
levels we haven't seen since late twenty four early twenty five,
who sort of wiped out all the games for the year.
A couple of things like futures market leading into is
activity has been weaker since the last auction. So low

(07:40):
price is not really a surprise, but the quantum of
weakness is a bit of a surprise. That does appear
to be a greater volume on offer through this auction,
so that's indicative of the timing, the time of.

Speaker 11 (07:51):
Year the auction has come out.

Speaker 10 (07:53):
But the thing is volume's gone up here and it's
tested the level of demand, and the level demand has
kind of not not come to the party. We need
to see the breakdown of that demand over the course
of the day sort of you know where which buyers
we're missing. Essentially, that we actually saw at what's called
the pulse, the global decontrated pulse auction about a week ago.

(08:13):
Your low price is there too, So something's going on
in the background. Now this could impact on forecast farm
gate prices depending what happens over the next few auctions.
And I can't avoid the observation, Mike, degree is kind
of like our economic beacon at the moment, isn't it.
And we really don't want to see that beacon dimming,
do we?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, we do not. But brings us to trade terms
of seemed okay, but some of the you know values
that this seemed to mixed bag as well.

Speaker 11 (08:39):
Yeah, I think that's right, Mike.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
So sticking with the theme of import export trade figures
released yesterday and there's a lot of data here so
it all needs a lot more further analysis. But at
the high level, merchandise goods terms of trade rose four
point one percent, so all else being equal, this means
that the ratio of our export prices to our import
prices has improved, so we can buy more imports from
the value of our exports.

Speaker 11 (09:02):
So that's a positive development. We can cheer that it.

Speaker 10 (09:04):
Was expected to rise, and there may have been some
people expecting a little bit higher but all in all,
that's pretty good. Export prices for goods of zero point
two percent, import prices fell three point seven percent, So
good to see the cost of imported goods falling.

Speaker 11 (09:18):
I think fuel helped that there. In terms of.

Speaker 10 (09:21):
Volumes, export volumes fell three point seven percent and import
volumes rose. And if I look through the data, market
looks like over the quarter export market's got a little
bit tougher. But remember the bigger pictures that we're being
a good place there, So so you know, I think
that over the day will probably look more deeper into that. Now,

(09:43):
on a slightly more technical note, the data release yesterday
this was called out by Westpac economists. Stats New Zealand
had revised down the value of low value imported goods
enter New Zealand and the value of that category is
based around the number of parcels coming into the country
and then you assume a value for those parcels. Now
it appears that that estimate has overstated the value of imports.

(10:08):
Now we know this type of commerces mushroomed over the
last few years. Think about TVA machine. But the numbers
might a pretty big here. They think Westpac think they
might have overstated by possibly two and a half billion
dollars over the March twenty four years the value of
the import's coming in, which quite a lot, so not
as much spent overseas as we thought. So this does
have implications. So the current account deficit might not be

(10:30):
as bad as we thought. We also might have overstated
the level of demand in the economy as well. In
other words, we're spending less than we thought. Now the
balance of payment data, when we get that out for
the gym courter, this will have all the revisions incorporated.
But I think there's probably a little bit more to
come on that.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's not your fault. But none of that was uplifting.
So can you give us the numbers?

Speaker 11 (10:52):
Yeah, apologize about that. Yahah. The Dow Jones, well, actually
none of this is either.

Speaker 10 (10:56):
The Dow Jones felt as down as I look at it,
three hundred ninety seven points, and that's point seven percent
four five two two one. The S and P five
hundred is down over one percent sixty three eight eight,
and the Nastig is down one point three percent as
I look at it, two hundred and eighty five points.
Concerns here over what you were talking about Mike. That's
the level of long term interest rates all around the world.

(11:18):
The foot Sea one hundred down point eight seven percent,
nine one one six the close there the Nikke actually gained,
which was quite nice to see, point two nine percent
four to two three one oh the Shanghai Composite down
point four five percent, three eight five eight the a
six two hundred lost twenty seven points yesterday eight thy
nine hundred the close.

Speaker 11 (11:37):
There is a little bit of good news for you, Mike.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
The NZ next fifty gained sixty three points point four
eight percent thirty thousand, one hundred and thirty three Kiwi
dollar point five eight sixty five against the US, point
eight nine nine four against the Aussie, point five three
six euro point four three eighto against the pound eighty
seven x zero three Japanese end gold surging.

Speaker 11 (11:59):
It's bashed through its high.

Speaker 10 (12:01):
Three thousand, five hundred and twenty six US dollars and
break cruit also hire sixty nine dollars and eighteen cents.

Speaker 12 (12:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Andrew Kelleherjmiwealth dot co dot m Z tell you what
worked well. The British and ias Irish Lions Tour. This
is rugby rugby Australia collected as much as one hundred
and twenty million dollars. We haven't got the It was
an unprecedented joint venture deal, so they split all the
profits apart from the home broadcast and the naming rights deals.
But it was forecast at Rugby Australia could collect about
one hundred million. Looks like it's twenty percent up on

(12:29):
that one hundred and twenty. The point being they've gone
from being in the red to being in the black.
They owed sixty million, they paid the lot off, got
some extra and a single tour did that so sport
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(14:59):
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he wants. The fight he wants is you said? But anyway,
I work you through some of that details shortly, those
numbers Andrew gave us on the terms of trade and
sheen and shine and all that sort of stuff. We'll
go back to that right after the news.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 2 (15:28):
Michael Trump of the White House and Richard on a
little over that who's with us? Shortly putty three minutes
away from seven? Right back to what Andrew was talking about.
This stats New Stats New Zealand numbers revised down our
import numbers for the year ending March. There were two
point twenty five billion lower than thought. That's zero point
five percent of GDP. It's a lot to get wrong.
Part of that's the value of these chip goods they've dropped.

(15:49):
So it's all the stuff from Shean and Timu and
the average value of parcels have dropped sharply. So Carolyn
Younger's Retail New Zealand's chief executive officer, respect where's Carolyn?
Good morning? Get my head around and you might be
able to help. Is what are we seeing here? Are
we seeing a lot of us buying the stuff online
from China and that's dropped off, or are we still

(16:09):
buying the same amount but it's less of value because
everything is stupid? Do you know what's going on?

Speaker 14 (16:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (16:14):
Look, we are seeing a significant interest in people buying
goods from the likes of Timu, and you know the
price of their goods is lower, so stats will have
been forecasting out goods that a being freated and at
a higher price effectively. But the volume that's coming through
now is just hi and a lot more people are

(16:36):
looking to those sites to buy goods rather than buying
goods in New Zealand, which of course is hurting our economy.
Is that you're going to buy from local businesses. You're
going to help New Zealand grow and help you know,
people have jobs and more money coming around in New Zealand,
So we're trying to encourage people to buy from New
Zealand stores. You know you've got those guarantees too, right,

(16:56):
you know, you know that the good's going to meet
the health and safety standards of New Zealand. And you
know that you know you've got Consumer Guarantees Act and
the Fair Trading Act's going to protect consumers. So really
important to try and keep the money in our economy
rather than shipping it off to China.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
What's your vibe? Is this an economic thing? In other words,
I will buy the cheapest thing I can get my
hands on or is it just I want to be
part of this fres sooon around Timu and Sheen and
those sort of places.

Speaker 15 (17:22):
I think it's a bit of both. You know, people
get onto those websites and they are in the nicest
possible way. They have got the technology sorted to really
pull you in and get you to buy the next
thing and the next thing and the next thing and so.
And their prices are so cheap because they come straight
from a massive manufacturing plant. They offer things that you
can't necessarily get in at the price in New Zealand,

(17:43):
and people think I might get that and not get that,
and then you know, they tell a friend about it
and then they go and have a look, and you know,
there's that fear of missing out and there when people
start looking at this stuff. But ultimately a whole lot
of it ends up on landfill. So it's just really
hard on the whole New Zealand ecosystem.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
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Speaker 16 (18:02):
No?

Speaker 15 (18:02):
I haven't, I had to say, but I had seen
the ones that no Naomasaka has got at the US Open.
She has a new one every day that she wins.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, there's something I don't know about, while I've got
you on slightly more important Issu's Smith's City kitchen things.
Where are we at the retail cycle? How are we
at the bottom yet?

Speaker 15 (18:21):
I'd like to think so, Mike, But we feel like
we've been saying that for a while. Look, you know,
obviously we've got another one or two cuts of the
official cash rate. We're really hoping that that will give
a boost. But the lag factor between these economic measures
and actually seeing a change in the economy is significant,
and it's much more than the economists of thinking hoping

(18:43):
that you know, by March next year we're going to
see a difference. But at the stage, you know, we
are hearing from some businesses they're seeing some green shoots,
but I think some of that is about the fact
that there's less businesses around, so you know, you're getting
a large share of a smaller pie, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Good and so I appreciate it, Carol and Young retail
news it and we've got some good news on tourism
spending and also around the grapes later on in the program.
But there's also the individual so that whole buy from
New Zealand. By local, I mean that's you're flogging a
dead horse, aren't you. As much as I hate to
say it, but at the end of the day, Price
wins every time, doesn't it. Now we're standing by, as
I say, for Trump, but the National Guard decision. Trump's

(19:21):
losing a lot of court cases these days that God's
got the Supreme Court, and I was listening to Best
yesterday he seems to be fairly bullish around some of
these decisions are getting to the Supreme Court and going
Trump's way. But the latest one is the National Guard.
So we'll have more shortly nineteen two.

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(21:06):
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Speaker 18 (21:36):
He No, he's not doing well at all in terms
of court victories. And also he's about to return, as
you've been saying to the spotlight after what is it
six days when he made no public appearances, leading to
all sorts of speculation about his health. He posted on
social media that he has never felt better, but in
recent photos doesn't look at his best. His appearance now

(22:00):
also comes after yet another federal judge ruled against his
deployment of military troops, specifically to Los Angeles back in June.
The judges ruling blistering opinion, which could have significant implications
for the prison's future plans if this holds up. The
Trump Justice Department says it will appeal this latest court decision.
Hundreds of troops now are on patrol in Washington, d C.

(22:21):
About three hundred of main on the streets of LA.
Thousands more could be deployed to Chicago, and perhaps not
into the future, to New York and other democratic run cities.
There is a nineteenth century statute that bars US soldiers
from applying civilian laws in all but the most extreme circumstances.
That's what Trump has been arguing. But the judge, Charles Bryer,

(22:43):
in this instance is asked, quote, what is a threat today?
What are the limits on the use of a federal
force under the orders of a president? So this is
an ongoing standoff.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yes it is. And then we've got Congress coming back
from summer.

Speaker 18 (22:57):
Yeap recess is over. They're back in town after the
holiday break. They have just four weeks to pass legislation
to fund the government and avoid to shut down. Oh boy,
oh boy, talk about old students, right, it's the continuing
face off. It won't be simple. The Speaker has, as
we know, a raise, a thin majority, and the Dems
are fired up. Also, this is the break of the speaker.
Mike Johnson ordered them to take early because of the

(23:19):
uproar on his own Republican Party ranks over the Epstein
pedophile pedophile case. If we thought this was over, no,
there was a clam of course, for the release of
information on any Epstein list, in any and all material
about this individual who spent so much time with the
rich and famous, including Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew
and many others, and about his infamous islands nicknamed Augie Island,

(23:41):
where young girls, often schoolgirls, were taken. Two Congress members,
Republican Thomas Massey and Democrat Roe Canna, have been pressing
for the release of all this material, while others have
been trying to conceal the story. We had Trump's former
criminal Lloyd didn't we Todd Blanche flying off to Florida
to speak with Epstein's convicted sex trafficking partner, Choline Maxwell,

(24:01):
who was seeking the pardon, and claim that Trump was
a gentleman, never did anything inappropriate. So some of the
victims call this an outrage and a cover up and
say they have not been heard. So now a number
of them have just arrived in Washington, d C. Where
Roeunnis says they will take part in a news conference
at the US Capital tomorrow.

Speaker 19 (24:18):
He says, what will be explosive is the trust conference
that both of us are having with ten Epstein victims,
many who have never spoken out before. They're going to
be on the steps of the Capitol. They will be
telling their story and they will be saying clearly to
the American public that they won the release of the
Epstein files.

Speaker 18 (24:36):
However, Speaker Johnson is trying to block this and is
calling for the House Oversight Committee to investigate further. So
it is a bid to delay, delay, delay, delay. And
speaking of delays, we just now have the President speaking
ince might. He is talking about his move to shift
the US Space Command the Missile Defense headquarters from Colorado
Springs to Huntsville and Alabama. Critics are saying that would

(24:59):
create new problems at a point when, as we've been
seeing in recent days, foreign adversaries like China, Iran and
Russia are increasingly assertive. It will be interesting to see
whether President Trump takes questions as he makes this announcement.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Now, I appreciate it. We'll see you in a couple
of days, Richard Donald state. So let's just listen and briefly.

Speaker 20 (25:18):
It's importantly this decision will help America defend and dominate
the high frontier, as they call it. I want to
thank Secretary Pete Haig sith he's doing a fantastic job.
And Secretary of the Air Force, Troy make Troy, thank
you very much. Great job you're doing, Troy. This is
such a big deal.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
This is one that everybody and give a number of topics.
The takeout so far, he's going to rename Huntsville Rocket City,
which I guess is possible. He's surrounded by a large
coterie of people. He looks fine for what it accounts
see and he bruising his cankles the cupboard, So for
now he seems okay.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Away from seven a make asking breakfast with Bailey's Real
Estate news dogs, there'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
The announcement appears to be. You see the guy over
his left shoulder. That's a wig, isn't it. There is
no question that's a wig. Why do people wear wigs?
If you're gonna wear a wig, make it, make it
so good that you go is a word. I'm not
really sure. If it's just overtly obviously a wig, don't
worry about it. That's my advice for the day. Mike,

(26:27):
tell me, is it really Is there any any financial
benefit by buy from a local retailer at an exorbitant price. Well,
that's open to interpretation. That's very motive word exorbitant, of course,
when that retailer has most likely purchased the product from
China in the first place. Well, a couple of things there. Firstly,
a lot of products don't come from China obviously in buying.
I'm not defending this, by the way, I said, it's
a dead horse, this whole argument. And you're all text

(26:48):
to me and I can buy a phone case for
five cents on Team Intorific. Buy your phone case, I
don't care whatever. But there are certain things you buy
on Temu that are cheap out of China that you'll
pay forever. But it's a dead horse, isn't it. This
idea that we support local It just doesn't work. We've
been doing it for years. You will go with price.
I will go with price. Price wins at the end
of the day. But to answer your specific question, yes,

(27:11):
if you pay a bit more locally, it spreads money
around the economy instead of sending money offshore, and that
money is paid in tax, and that money is supporting families,
and that money is supporting jobs. So it does, in
a sense make sense. Five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
All the ins and the outs, it's the fiz with
business fiber take your business productivity to the next level, in.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Which the Chinese EV story continues to grow and worrious
at the same time. So we got new numbers for August.
EV demand rebounded after a slump in previous months, thanks
in part to price. There's a massive price war on,
particularly in Europe, and it's going to end in tears.
Believe me. BYD remains the big one at the moment.
They shipped over three hundred and seventy three thousand cars
in August, which is twenty two percent more than this

(27:56):
time last year, So they're on a roll. Yang Wang.
I cannot wait for yang Wing to get here, because
when the Yangwan get here, I'm going to have one.
You're going to say, how are you getting the work.
I'm going to take out my yang Wing.

Speaker 21 (28:09):
It I'll take you about five minutes to get to
work in a Yangwey.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I'm going to take out my yang Wang. They sold
four hundred units. They don't seem that they're at the
upper end of the market, so they're expensive. Yang Wing's
don't come cheap. I think we all know that, don't we.
Youan get a cheap yang Wing. So far for the Uby,
do you have sold two point eight six million model,
said a lot. It's sort of this. I mean Toyota
Volkswagen meter at the ten million ishmark globally. Neo they

(28:33):
had a record amount of shipments for It's thirty one thousand,
so they're still niche. They've released a new model in
August called the Envo L ninety. What a cool name,
which is family oriented. Seat six. It's an odd number,
isn't it. Normally they seat five or seven, but no,
they're going, oh the old Envo that seats six. They've
also lowed the price of their flagship, the sv SUV

(28:54):
Ees eight. That's down to seventy three thousand dollars. So
you can see why the Chinese are doing well. It's
cheapest chips. I'll be able to buy these things on
Timu before you know it, and you get a free
phone case. Leap motor are they set an all time
high for one month, over fifty seven thousand cars. So
the price in Europe you can buy a car for
about eleven grand. Now a brand new car, brand new
car for eleven thousand dollars and at that point someone go, oh,

(29:18):
betch it's crap. It probably is, but it's only eleven
thousand dollars. You can buy fridges and sof it's more
expensive than a car. So the whole conversation has been
up ended. Now tourism I have sort of good news.
We're seeing more people arriving in the country and they're
spending more money. It's not back to what it was,
so we'll deal with that. Politics Wednesday, of course out

(29:40):
the way for you this morning as well.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
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Speaker 2 (29:52):
Be seven past seven, so tourism getting bigger and better
and brighter. Spending has hit twelve point one billion in
the year to June, which is up four point three
p s. International arrivals are up five percent to three
point three eight million of them are Rene de Monsieur
is the touristm New Zealand bosses back with this Rundow Morning.

Speaker 22 (30:08):
Morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Up is good, but it's still a slow grind. Is
that fair?

Speaker 22 (30:13):
Yeah, look up as good as you say.

Speaker 23 (30:15):
You know, twelve point one billion, so that's up four percent,
so you know, five hundred million more on the year before,
So that's good news. But you're right, it certainly continues
to be competitive. I'm an internal optimist, Mike, so I
continue to look at going. I think there's plenty of
opportunities still ahead of us.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well, I hope so, because in justin for inflation, we're
still spending wise at eighty six percent, so we're sort
of going nowhere fast. When do you reckon one hundred
Is you got any idea?

Speaker 23 (30:42):
Well, we're targeting to get back to one hundred percent
of visitor arrivals by the end of next year. That's
that's quite a big that's quite a big task. But
there's certainly a big focus from us, you know, really
enticing visitors, driving urgency to them to get them to
make that booking for New Zealand as soon as possible.

Speaker 22 (31:00):
And we're seeing some really good results out of that.

Speaker 23 (31:01):
But you know, it is a competitive world and we're
seeing you know, we've seeing lots of markets really compete
for international visitors.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I was reading the other day, I had it wrong.
I thought capacity was back. Apparently capacity isn't back. Is
it coming back? How quickly is it coming back? And
when will it be back to normal? If ever?

Speaker 22 (31:20):
Is that the airline capacity might you men?

Speaker 14 (31:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 (31:23):
Look it's around about ninety four percent probably the latest numbers,
so is a bit slower. You know, that's both there's
a lot of kind of challenges with airlines, engine problems
that you've no doubt heard about, but certainly we've been
actively also working with the airports to entice.

Speaker 22 (31:39):
Airlines back to New Zealand.

Speaker 23 (31:41):
The outlook I think for the summer is probably about
ninety five ninety six percent, So it is building, but
fair to say building a little bit slower than we
would have hoped.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Okay, when I talked to the North Island people yesterday.
Across in Australia at the moment New Zealanding, how much
of the individuals are out there selling or pitching for
Australia or the Norse Irelanders pitching versus the New Zealand Inc.
One stop shop We're open for business type campaign.

Speaker 23 (32:07):
Well, the good thing is there's a lot of collaboration
in the tourism sector, so I know the Northunland road
shows in Australia at the moment, we really welcome that
because that's a combined effort. You know, we work together
in Australia and a lot of and a lot of activities,
so it's really you know, the sum of the parts
make up the whole. But there's lots of different parts
of the sector promoting New Zealand.

Speaker 22 (32:27):
But Australia is a touch on. But Australia has.

Speaker 23 (32:30):
Actually been performing really, really well. We've seen strong double
digit growth inbound over the last certainly over this year
and the outlook for the kind of quarter ahead is
of similar trends.

Speaker 22 (32:41):
So that's really positive to see.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Good to hear Rene, good to catch up. Renault de
Montshur's the CEO of tourism New Zealand. Jesus Slow, isn't
The end of next year is twenty six and COVID
was nineteen and we're only back to where we were
ten minutes past seven.

Speaker 22 (32:57):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Change in education continues with news that schools will now
be able to apply for money to build some walls.
This is the weirdest thing, so they can have proper
classrooms instead of these barns that they currently operate, and
the open learning classroom era is over, as Erica Stanford
has announced previously. Of course, Catherine Law is the principal
at Abenside Gills High in Christchurch and is with us. Catherine,
morning to you.

Speaker 9 (33:17):
Oh good morning Mike, this morning.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, thank you. As a thing, these barn like classrooms
as a thing, as an exercise tenant was perfect. Couldn't
have wanted anything better. One that's been a disaster. What's
your number?

Speaker 15 (33:29):
Oh, probably a two, Mike.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
I mean there'd be in a few bits that we
would want to keep. You know, there's always some things
that work and you think, oh yeah, that's a good aspect,
like some breakout spaces things like that, But definitely a.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Too widely accepted in education that it was a mistake
or would there still be some defenders.

Speaker 9 (33:48):
I think there are some defenders, and but I think,
you know, if you looked at the majority of people
in education, they would say widely proven to be a mistake,
and certainly research backst up.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
What do you reckon in your expert opinion, have the
lack of walls done to a kid's education if you
toss it in the mix of all the other things
you're having to deal with in terms of, you know,
teaching a kid you know how to succeed.

Speaker 15 (34:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Mike.

Speaker 9 (34:17):
It came at a time when other things came in
as well, so an ideological time when you know, open
playing classrooms, students centered learning, inquiry based learning, and what
all of those things did together was they were sort
of perfect storm in which we suddenly had seventy students
together in a classroom, everybody working on projects. And what

(34:38):
we lost was the real importance of relationships with students.
We lost the importance of routines, we lost sort of
emotional safety, and what we gained was a whole lot
of young people who are you know, our PIESA results show,
other results show haven't been learnt very much. But also,
you know, if you're coming in with trauma, if you're

(34:58):
in your adverse, you know, lots of students, for lots
of students, this is not a success.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
How much money do you need for your walls?

Speaker 9 (35:06):
Oh, if we could get one and a half million,
which on the scale of building a school, you know,
I mean, we're not talking about a new school here,
but if we could get a million to a million
and a half, we could do so much at avonside
to improve achievement and attendance and to improve teaching and
learning for our young people.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
When you sign a million and a half, that's your school.
And there are hundreds of schools and there's thousands of walls,
and it's like.

Speaker 15 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (35:33):
Well the point is, do you do that now? Do
you invest now? And get that sorted? Because these are
the young people who are going to run our country.
They're going to they're going to need good education. And
we're bringing a new curriculum. We've got all sorts of changing,
all sorts of things changing. But we know we know
so much more about how students learn, and we know
so much more about torm inform practice. So why would

(35:55):
we not invest now?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
It's a good answer chair. Were you one of the
principles that right to where I can stand for the
other day not wanting these changes? By the way, no,
I wasn't name good and we'll get you back.

Speaker 11 (36:05):
On the program.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
In that case, nice to talk to you, Catherine, Catherine Law,
who's the principle of Avonside Girls high eighty nine out
of four hundred and twenty. Let's get a headline thirteen
minutes past seven pasking Michael Luckston had to say yesterday
re Chippy's comments was that if he didn't get thrown
up by the people last election, he would have been
the one making the beg Amazon announcement. Glen, I'm glad
you raised that because yet again I was embarrassed by
the New Zealand media yesterday. What was a bullish, upbeat

(36:30):
good day for New Zealand inc. I Aws were in,
the centers were live, there were jobs, that was investment.
It was good. We became for reasons. But when I say, well,
I'm not part of it. Obsessed They've found some land
out in west Auckland somewhere that hadn't been built on.
So suddenly they become obsessed about whether any center had
been built and where it was, and then Aws said, well,

(36:53):
we can't tell it for security reasons, which made sense
to me. All I'm interested in are they here yes?
Did they spend some money?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Are they employing some people as the reserve is being operated?

Speaker 8 (37:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
That was the story, the obsession that the rest of
the media ran with. I've got no idea what they
were thinking of. But yet again the media distances themselves
from regular, ordinary, everyday New Zealanders who were just looking
at that, going what the hell are you on about?
Fourteen past the.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
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Speaker 2 (37:28):
At a very cool prize when it before eight o'clock
has got to do with F one and Liam Lawson
you are tell him all? Shortly eighteen past seven. More
good news from the land, though before we get their
wine industry. New data shows our export volumes. They are
expected to grow four percent to two hundred and eighty
five million liters. This is for the year to June
export revenue. Then our forecasting to lift a two point
four billion by twenty twenty nine. Brita Lynn is the
chief executive of Hawksby Wine Grows and is with US

(37:50):
Sprint morning, Good morning, Mike, how are you very well?
Thank you the mixed messages I'm getting, the world's drinking
less alcohol in general. Are we pitching to a smaller
market doing better with quality or is something changed and
we're selling more of it?

Speaker 14 (38:05):
Perhaps if I can just set the sort of parameters,
m you're talking to hawks Bay Wine here, and hawks
Bay is quite a domestically focused market or producer compared
to New Zealand Wine in total as the national organization,

(38:31):
so I can only speak as to what is happening
here in Hawk's Bay on the ground. But that and
that represents about twenty five percent of our production to export,
with the dance being domestic.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
So is it quality? Will volume me dealing with there?

Speaker 14 (38:48):
It's quality. So Hawks Bay's built its pedigree on premium
end of the market, and in that premium end of
the market, we are noticing some return of purchases to

(39:11):
the Hawk's Bay brand.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Fantastic. The terriff issues you wouldn't be dealing with those
of you domestic in that case, but I mean Craigi
Range tomato and stuff there international they be out there.

Speaker 14 (39:20):
Yeah, So about let's say about twenty five percent of
our production is destined for the export market. The character issue. Certainly,
it caused interesting discussions between our producers and their agents
and who was going to end up absorbing that terraff structure.
And most have come to arrangements which they can live

(39:44):
and work with. Not that they really wanted to have
to do that, but I found those arrangements. The bigger
issue with the tariff is what it may cause in
terms of disruption in the market, where other countries with
different teriff structures may start looking at markets that New
Zealand and Hawk's Bay strong and as an alternative to

(40:08):
supply in the States under a higher tariff structure exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
And that's why we like free trade, don't we. Brent
appreciate the insight. So two point four billion or remember
when at crack two billion, So that's good growth that
they can get there in twenty twenty nine, now Paris
Climate David seymour More in a moment seven twenty.

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David Seymour's call around this Parrot's called merely adds to

(41:39):
the list of calls around the Paris Accord globally. If
you if you could park them, just park the emotion
right and the band wagons associated with the obsession around
saving the planet, the case for twenty fifty no longer
adds up. Take the countries that never signed up in
the first place, Take the countries like America that are
now leaving. Take the future British Tory government who will bail?
Take the world's biggest climate alliance for banks. You won't

(42:00):
have read about this. They've suspended their activities and proposed
to vote on scrapping its current structure after a whole
pile of members bailed. Basically the net zero banking Alliance
Right stated their commitment was to align their lending with
achieving net zero. Didn't work, didn't even come close. Since
Paris in twenty fifteen, banks globally have provided loans of

(42:21):
six point four trillion US to oil and gas right
six point four trillion to green projects four point three.
Founder of Reclaimed Finance, a woman called Lucy Pinson, says,
the reality is the banking alliance never truly challenged the
fossil fuel business models. No kidding on fact, climate is losing.
You can argue forever about why that is and whether
that's good or bad. But if it is fact you

(42:42):
are using, then the Seymour call and the growing actions
of places like America are actually sensible. I mean, just
how much fast? How many cops cops eighteen, nineteen, twenty seven,
thirty two? How many of those cops do you want
to continue to failure? How many press releases do you
want asking for us to redouble our efforts knowing it's
never going to happen. How much funding, how many air miles?
How many promises that will never come close to reality?

(43:03):
Do you want to pursue in what simply now is
an obviously vain hope, A well intentioned hope, yes, laudable yes,
but futile. Maybe it's zero or paris. You could argue
as a guide, an aspiration, and let's give it a
go and see how close we get. Sort of thing,
perhaps with no target, the whole thing, does fall apart,
But like a lot of nonsensical ideas, this one has
fast become exposed as a bust. If good intention and

(43:27):
hot air was currency, it might be different, but the
facts and the truth tell us it isn't. Maybe we're
all going to Hell and a handcart, a dirty, filthy,
climate induced handcart, or maybe we aren't. But the juggernaut
of Paris isn't working. Never really did good, clear decisive
decision making would mean we stop the rot, the expense
the energy sooner rather than later. Hosking Trumpy got asked

(43:50):
about being dead.

Speaker 20 (43:51):
I heard that.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I get reports.

Speaker 12 (43:54):
Now you knew.

Speaker 20 (43:54):
I did an interview that lasted for about an hour
and a half with somebody and everybody, So that was
on one of your competitors. I did numerous shows and
also did a number of truths long crests, I think
pretty poignanterrut no. I was very active over the week
and they also knew. I went out to visit some
people at the at the club that I own pretty

(44:17):
nearby on the Potomac River. And now I've been very
active actually over the weekend. I didn't hear that one.
That's pretty serious.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
So just to confirm in case you're still in doubt
not dead. Thanks very much for that. Andrew Hoggatt, the
acting MP, former President of Fed Farmers. On the aforementioned
of the Business of Paris and a Core Competition, we
meet the bloke who's designed Liam Lawson's helmet for the
Singapore GP.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
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Speaker 2 (44:52):
Bleck to the school walls.

Speaker 15 (44:52):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
When my daughter started school thirty eight years ago, she
used to say she'd get a headache because it was
so noisy. Open plane was not good for her. But
they were the norse. I'm so please something's been done
about it, Mike. One and a half million for Rich School.
Someone's going to be making a fortune. It's not one
and a half million for Rich School. That was just
that school. Avanside Girls is quite a big school. Not
all schools will require it, but you know the point
is it's going to be a shedload of dough that

(45:14):
we don't have.

Speaker 8 (45:14):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
My son, at fourteen, in an open plan one day,
said to me, I needed to go to a structured school.
If he was going to pass Nceea at his existing place.
We just drifted around and do nothing all day. That's
been a common complaint. The other complaint really the Trump
White House press conference was the photo that's doing the
rounds of a It turns out to be a bag. Allegedly.

(45:35):
When I first saw it about two thirty this morning, it
was just an object. Object was flying out of the
top window.

Speaker 21 (45:41):
There's been a lot of speculation on exactly what it was.
Some people have suggested the Epstein files. Other people have
suggested it's Milania trying to make an escape.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Well, that was the main thing. Wasn't Malania making this?
The suggestion was Milania was angry and something was being
thrown out the window. So the press conference stopped as
Peter Doucy of Fox News walked up to the President
showed him the photo of the object leaving the White House,
at which point Trump said, not surprisingly, that's fake because
all the windows are sealed. So that's the sort of
world in which we live. Sadly twenty two to eight. Now,

(46:12):
as we mentioned before, the news the Paris climate accord
under real pressure internationally these days. Trump's out the Tories
in Britain can make their they say they can't make
the targets work. Twenty fifty isn't real. ACT here want
a head in a similar direction. Andrew Hoggart is, of
course the Associate Minister of Vagon Environment these days, also
former Fed Farmer's President, and he's with us on this. Andrew,
good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (46:32):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Wake The logic, as I was trying to explain before
the news, if you just take it on fact, you know, factually,
can we get there the accord Losers, doesn't it well?

Speaker 12 (46:45):
Our view is that trying to do all this is
just costing. He's going far too much, and energy prices
and farmland being gobbled up by pine trees, and you know,
we're such a small part of the world's and missions,
and we seem to be one of the few canes
trying to be pure than pure on this whole thing.
And I think it's time we as an act party,

(47:05):
we feel we need be a bit more realistic about it.
We've got a lot of good stuff going for us.
We've got the world's most efficient farmers, we've got a
lot of renewable energy. Let's not beat ourselves to death
over being some sort of sacrificial guinea pig.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
How considered is this within your party? I mean, have
you angst it over or have you just been keen
to move on with us?

Speaker 24 (47:27):
No?

Speaker 12 (47:28):
Look, I think David sort of first mooted this idea
back in February, and we've certainly been working through sort
of the pros and the cons and where we might
position ourselves on this for next year. So you know,
it's taken about a good five months of working through
and thinking through how we position it.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
And having made it public yesterday. Of course National says
that they're not doing it, So this will be an
election issue. You will campaign in the election campaign as
an individual party with this particular stance.

Speaker 12 (47:57):
Yes, that is our plan that voters can see, here
is what we are going to be proposing ahead of
next year's election, and they can make their minds up
at the election.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Do you think anyone you'll ever talk the Greens down,
all the passionates about the subject. Do you think you
can ever talk them down with with some logic and
some fact as opposed to the idealism of trying to
save the world.

Speaker 12 (48:21):
I guess I've been trying to do that for quite
a while and hasn't been too much success. You know,
there's a lot of people seem to get the reality
that you don't have to reduce meat ain't to zero,
but then they just go on to this, but we
don't like dairy farming and we think it should disappear anyway,
So sometimes the religious zelatory over Trump's or Trump's the

(48:45):
practical realities.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Do you reckon if I randed up one hundred farmers,
how many would back the accents on this?

Speaker 12 (48:50):
Do you think going by my Facebook posts at least
ninety eight or ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
You're right up there right mate, appreciate it. Andrew Hoggard,
who's the acting piece, former president of Fed Farmers, speaking
of which, nineteen away from eight to Pasky Rooy Morgan
poll out this morning or late yesterday. We don't take
the Roy Morgan overly seriously. But I passed these on
just you know, do with us what you want, and
we don't take it seriously because they're not aligned with
the polling group of people in this country. Blah blah blah.

(49:17):
We've been through this one hundred times before. Anyway, point
being who's up and who's down? Well, labor are up,
national are down, the Greens are up, so Labor and
the Greens are up. So that's a change of government.
So this is a change of government poll. The left
gets sixty two, the right get fifty eight. But as
I say, the old Roy Morgan's a bit touch and
go nineteen two.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
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Speaker 2 (49:42):
It be by the way, the Speaking of Act, although
it is a coalition policy, they were announcing yesterday they're
changing special licensing rules to make it easier to run events.
Basically there's sort of duvetails into the liquor licensing laws
the other day, setting up a coordinated approach for events
that spend multiple council areas, requiring DLCs to consult each
other within a specified timeframe. All this stuff they're doing

(50:05):
around time frames national you know, in other words, not
doing things individually around different parts of the country. All
of this is just so basic and common sense. You wonder,
I know what's done it previously. So the threshold for
large scale events that need a completed event management plan
and certification of compliance and to work with a police

(50:27):
that's gone from four hundred to two thousand. So that's encouraging,
so it's all good. I have been meaning to tell
you about the new Green Party leader in the UK,
because he's a fascinating bloke. He won the election overnight.
He's not known. No one knows who he is apart
from being unless you're in the Green Party, so no
one in Britain's really heard of him. Zach Polanski. The
Polanski part is interesting. He pitched to the membership by

(50:48):
the way a decisive shunt to the left, the moving
the Greens to the left that were already left. He
wants them to be really, really really left, and he
wants a more confrontational communication style, whatever that means. He's
pre He has been an actor, a hypnotherapist and a
mental health counselor the hypnotherapist part's quite interesting before I
get to that. He grew up in self and he's gay.
He's Jewish. He changed his name from pauld and his

(51:11):
name is actually David Paulden, not Zak or Polanski. He
did that when he was eighteen in order to embrace
the identity raised by his family's anglicized surname. He wasn't
even into the Greens, initially joined the Liberal Democrats before
he joined the Greens. So you're getting a picture here.
What really makes him a little bit different and I
suspect unique, is when he was a hypnotherapist. There was

(51:34):
the Sun newspaper sent a reporter along to him for
a bit of hypnotherapy and the reporter posed as a client,
claiming that he helped her boost her bust size through
the power of thought. Asked about that piece, he said
his time as a hypnotherapist predated any of his political ambitions.

(51:58):
Not but that sort of means anything. I mean, you
still did it, didn't you. Eh. What he didn't answer
is whether it's true? Can you through the power of thorn?
I mean yeah, just raising that by the way, the
port of Taronger, thank the good Lord Chris Bishops Onto.
So if you're not following this, and you should have
because it's been going on forever, they want to basically

(52:19):
extend their operation. And why would they want to do that, Well,
they want to do that so they can be a better,
more profitable, more successful business. There's an idea. Anyway, they've
been held up by local mari who seemed to have
no end of time, energy and money. I suspect ours
to go to court and they were port of Towerong
going to be part of the fast track and one

(52:41):
of the bit Scott left out of the fast track
and they were trying to work out why, and so
it went to yet another court hearing and so the
whole thing's in abeyance and I think it was Andrew
mentioned it on the program yesterday as part of the result.
They announced the result very successful company. Things are going well,
but they expressed their extraordinary level of frustration over this
ongoing problem that they can't get ahead and expand Bishop

(53:02):
says he's going to sort it. What he didn't elaborate
on how he's going to do that, whether he's got
a magic wand or he's going to use some hypnotherapy,
but he is allegedly going to sort it. So the
sooner that gets sorted once and for all, the better.
And if that's not an example of the good that
fast tracks should bring to the economy, I don't know
what is eleven away from it.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
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togs had been.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Jamon Is away from it. This could be better than lotto. Actually,
Ian Ebbs has won a competition. The competition was to
design a helmet for Liam Lawson. Lawson personally picked the
winner the prize as a trip to two to Singapore to
hand the helmet over. I mean, how good this hen
is with us Ian morning. Well, you're an F one fan, yes,
and your son's an F one fan.

Speaker 22 (53:49):
Yeah, a big fan.

Speaker 11 (53:50):
Big fan will.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Try and describe that. Well, actually you try and describe it.
What have you done design wise?

Speaker 22 (53:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (53:57):
So put together this pretty one kind of Kiwi Ona
inspired helmet for Liam that he's going to wear at
the Singapore Grand Prix. It's tried to take in some
of his kind of things that he likes, his colors
from some previous helmets that he's worn, and then just
stuff it into a bit of golf and yeah, a
lot of tastes the home, I guess as well, with
the Kiwi and the Kiwi fruit and kind of the

(54:20):
mountains and the green rolling hills. So yeah, it's just
kind of a taste of news in and for him
on his on his helmet.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I guess it's very well done. It's did you were
there any instructions or did you have to take into
account intricacy? In other words, if there was too much
detail that it would become problematic on on a helmet,
or could you do whatever you want.

Speaker 16 (54:38):
No, there wasn't any kind of requirements as such around that,
so I kind of just went wild with the things
that I added. You did have to kind of stay
off a few areas where his race number goes and
the sponsors on the side and stuff, so there's a
few kind of safe zones that you had to leave bank.
So it'll be interesting to see how the kind of
three D version comes out. I'm excited to see what
they take from kind of the concept. I guess where

(54:59):
we put together they're here and then and how it
turns out when it's on his head flowing around the
track in Singapore.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Where do they do it? Do you know where do
they actually make the helmet?

Speaker 16 (55:08):
I understand it's about a six to eight week process
to get them made, So I think they've already done
the kind of the concept now of what it will
actually look like.

Speaker 11 (55:17):
I haven't had a chance.

Speaker 22 (55:18):
To see that. I'll get to see.

Speaker 16 (55:19):
It in person when we're in Singapore for the first time.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
So it's pink's it's blues, it's green of the land, white,
of the fern and because that's sort of his colors,
isn't it.

Speaker 16 (55:32):
Yeah, So I kind of went back and looked at
some of the helmets that he's worn in the past
to try and get some inspiration for what he might
like to see, and yeah, you're right, the pink is
definitely like a key color. He has this fun, kind
of lean lawson kind of character with a pink baseball
hat on backwards that he has on his helmet at
the moment. So I used that a little bit in

(55:53):
the design and turned them into a little golfer because
he's into his golf now. So that was on there
as one of the mains.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
When you'd done it, did you think you had something
that you know, you thought, hang on, this is actually
quite good. Yeah I did.

Speaker 16 (56:07):
I did think, actually, this does look quite cool, and
I did feel like, oh yeah, it was in with
a shot. And then obviously, about kind of six weeks
after i'd put the entry in, I had a email
from Red Bull and they were just checking that we
were based in New Zealand and over the age of eighteen,
and I was thinking, hold on, you don't really ask
these questions of people if they haven't got a chance.
So I said to my son, Michael, who's coming with me?

(56:29):
I said, Oh, Michael, I think we've been shortlisted. Liam's
gone through and he's looked at all of the designs
that everybody's put in, which itself is pretty cool that
he took the time to go through and look at
everything everybody did you know?

Speaker 22 (56:40):
So yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Were you in because of Michael? Did you enter because
of Michael? Did he tell you the competition was on
or was it you?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (56:49):
Exactly?

Speaker 22 (56:49):
So yeah.

Speaker 16 (56:51):
I've got three kids and they order have loved to come,
but it was Michael who is the one who found
the competition, was like, we need to enter this, we
need to have a go. We need to make a
helmet for Liam Lawson.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
So wow, he's the ones come with me. That's incredible.
You've ever been to F one before?

Speaker 22 (57:06):
Yes?

Speaker 16 (57:07):
About twenty five years ago. I went to the Silver
Soon Gorond Prix with my dad. So it's pretty fun
to better take.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
My that's my dream? Is silver Stone? Is it worth it?

Speaker 22 (57:19):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (57:19):
Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 22 (57:20):
Yeah, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And what about Michael, He hasn't been to an F one? No, No,
never know, So that Paul's a good thing because it's night,
it's in town, you can do the town, you can
do the track it. I mean, it will be amazing thing.

Speaker 16 (57:32):
Yes, it would be incredible just to see it all
let up in the city. Yeah, the neon and everything,
so quite The experience for Michael is it's only only
second trip abroad, so yeah, it will love it.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
There we go, and of course the important point is
you get to meet Liam and you hand the helmet
to Liam. So I mean that'll be as big as
going to the IF one one.

Speaker 16 (57:51):
Yeah, totally, it's very very fun. I kind of held
that back. I haven't really mentioned it too much to Michael,
but he's just starting to get the impression that that's happening.
Is like, well, we get to meet Liam.

Speaker 22 (58:00):
I'm like, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 16 (58:02):
So yeah, very excited, very excited.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
And he's a lovely guy, Liam, So you'll enjoy that experience.
And he did. Apart from Carlos over the weekend. He's
coming together, isn't he. Yeah, the car's looking good.

Speaker 11 (58:16):
He had really good.

Speaker 16 (58:17):
Pace and yeah, it's just a shame, but it's one
of those things, I guess.

Speaker 22 (58:20):
But yeah, I just was looking at the.

Speaker 16 (58:22):
Tracks and trying to work out how much of a
chance he'd have and how the car suited Singapore. And
I think he's got a good go when he's there,
so it'd be nice to pick up some points between
now and then. But I think he should go pretty
good in Singapore as well.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
I hope so, and I hope you go well on Singapore.
Congratulations and Ebbs, who's Michael's dad. They won the competition.
They did the helmet and it's a cool helmet and
they're gonna make it and they're gonna hand it to Liam.
And that's as far as prizes go. I mean, sure
of winning the power Ball in America, which is a
billion dollars at the moment. That's about as good as
it gets, as far as I can work out. Politics. Wednesday,
Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson After the News, which.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Is next you?

Speaker 1 (59:10):
My caskame insightful, engaging and vital The my casking Breakfast
with Range Rover leading by example News talk.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Sa'd be one is the loneliest NU number that you'll
ever do.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Two can be as bad as one.

Speaker 12 (59:31):
It's the lonely number since the.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
NAM Why'd you choose this one?

Speaker 22 (59:39):
Because?

Speaker 21 (59:39):
I actually thought that it was going to be a
different one. I thought it was going to be the
U two song.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
What about the year I break eleven?

Speaker 11 (59:49):
Track one?

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Here we go? I couldn't make an improvement? Really, be god.
The thirty one twenty five minutes and fourteen seconds of us.
There are ten tracks, and as you can tell already,
there covers, but.

Speaker 21 (01:00:06):
Not necessarily the covers that Queen thought one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
No, no one of them isn't clearing. Belinda Carlinle, you
wouldn't have tacked the voice for you? I quite like
Blonda car can't the Carlisle the go goes? What was
the hitch you had? Big Ben, very big.

Speaker 11 (01:00:21):
Hit, so beg.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
None of us can remember what it was called, Jenny
or Ginny.

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Morning, Good morning, Katie Lean. Get a bit of vision
than that, Katie Lean sing that song amazing?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Okay? What was the big hit that Belinda Carlyle had.

Speaker 7 (01:00:36):
Blinda Carlisle? I was Heaven on Earth?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
That's it? Well done? Are you win the prize? Jenny? Congratulations? Actually,
before I give you the prize, Mark, would you have
said heaven is a place on earth as well?

Speaker 11 (01:00:47):
Or not?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
The clue Jenny is the one of congratulations, Jenny. I'll
work out something from the prize covered later on in
the program Politics Wednesday. By the way, Mark, You've got
no interest in no vested interest in this. But are
you surprised that the numbers the Tammicky by election as
of yesterday, I think there were three or four thousand

(01:01:09):
people with forty four thousand enrolled, three or four thousand
people have voted. Is there something wrong with the by election?
Is there something wrong with democracy? Is there something? What
is it? I mean it seems pathetic.

Speaker 25 (01:01:19):
Well, I think it's a bio election, so it's out
of cycle. So you know, it's hard to get people
that interested in it. But yeah, I mean it's it's
a big concern is that this whole whole lot of reasons.
Probably given a couple there, but you know, very low turnout.
But you know there should be more interested in it
because the Labor party out there tautic Penny is the
future leader.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, so you think it's going.

Speaker 7 (01:01:39):
To get that was the multi party Actually he was
doing that.

Speaker 25 (01:01:42):
Hopefully been out saying it as well. So will definitely
not be in that camp.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Have you have you been campaigning with Penny at all? Gunny?
I know, has anyone been campaigning with Penny because he
seems to be making up a lot of his own policy.

Speaker 7 (01:01:57):
Yeah, he's been compaigning with lots of people and I'm
hitting after the coronation to do all day Friday with
him up there. So he's been working incredibly hard. And
I think the thing that stands out for Penny is
he's got the experience and that's really stacking up as
you go through this camp.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah. When you say experience, when when he when is
his policy on the hoof thing he's got going? How
does that unfold the people believe that he's going to
do that? Or can he say anything he wants in
a by election campaign or I just don't understand what
he's doing.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
The fact that he has been the minister responsible for
far no order means he's able to speak to the
reality of what it means to make decisions is Mardi
within government and a big part of that is being
able to work with Maldy, and I think that's the
clear point of difference. He has that in order to
drive the best results, not only just for Maldi but

(01:02:49):
for New Zealanders, we need to work together and he gets.

Speaker 25 (01:02:52):
There, Okay, he wants gangsback and there he wants the
game patches given back and that's not your policy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
And he wants some Marie agency for healthless something.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
Well, he's got a lot more work cut out for them.

Speaker 19 (01:03:03):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
These are seven hundred and forty more game members under
this government, so there'll be more work to.

Speaker 17 (01:03:07):
Do in order.

Speaker 25 (01:03:09):
Decline and gang members the GAG register.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
If you've got members, though, Jenny, by giving them back
their patches, does that help reduce that number or does
it help increase it?

Speaker 19 (01:03:19):
Will?

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
It definitely doesn't make any difference to the ninety seven
percent of more myth and fetamine that they're pushing on
the streets of New Zealand International.

Speaker 25 (01:03:27):
They won't just give them that. They won't just give
them their patches back. They'll give them three minutes. They'll
give them millions of dollars to run myth programs for
the guys that are dealing the myth.

Speaker 7 (01:03:38):
Let me be clear that it's definitely not our position.
We will not do that, but as will deliver more
than the twenty three police officers that Mark's delivered the
so far out of the five hundred, because we'll be
needing more than twenty three.

Speaker 25 (01:03:54):
The good news is I'm sure that you'll be very
pleased to hear though the police have been delivered outstairs.
The results for us as a country the last eighteen
months with crime going down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I think we're up over one hundred.

Speaker 25 (01:04:04):
I think we're actually doing quite well with the.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Where did they places association have it at twenty three?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
So I think that all right, the leadership of stuff
come from?

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
Sorry I missed that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Where did the leadership stuff come from?

Speaker 7 (01:04:19):
What watsch leadership?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Penny having a crack at the leadership?

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
That has been something that the Multi Party raised I
think in Q and A that was so that was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Just solely them. So I saw, I saw a marked
question and I didn't deny it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
From all I've seen is well, first of all, the
Multi Party candidate sy that she voted for Penny and
the last general election, and then subsequently and the Q
and a interview with Jack Tayne, she stated that Penny
would make a good prime minister and that was all said.
I haven't heard any comment on our side in terms
of leadership for him, but they don't get me wrong.

(01:04:55):
He's an excellent person and he's got the ability to
really bring mar and Parker together for the benefit of
New Zealand, and those excellent characteristic.

Speaker 25 (01:05:04):
I think Shennon Helbert, who I think is in your
in the labor Caucus, was out there saying that his
leadership credentials are emerging for everyone to see.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
So yeah, well, I saw a Penny interviews. I saw
a Penny interviewed and they said what about it? And
he goes, well, let's get the by election out of
the way first, and I thought, well, hold on something something.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
I no, that's okay, I said to be christ but
I have got you yet. The only one I viewed
was from the don't get me wrong, is excellent. He's
doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Okay, if you hear anything, Jenny, can you keep us
posted because I'd like to know.

Speaker 25 (01:05:43):
Here'll be a florry of calls going on there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Don't you worry about that? Break more in a moment
Penny and not Penny. Actually maybe Penny, Maybe maybe it
is Penny. Maybe I need to get Penny instead of Jenny.
On the program, Mark Mitchell, Genny Anderson thirteen Past.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
The Make Hosking Breakfast Full Show Pods on a hard
Radio News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Talks seventeen Past eight Jenny and Mark Metrill Weather's mar
because Judith had a word about you know, Brook van
Velden the other day and saying things as Judith had
a word to you about watching your watching your step
and your tongue.

Speaker 25 (01:06:14):
And just just a generalminder for for all ministers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Say what can you say and what can't you say?
Because Luxon was on the show having a good crack
at the Reserve Bank and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I
thought it was good. I'm into saying whatever you like,
and you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:06:30):
You should be the most definational.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
That I just speak your mind and be honest. I mean,
what's wrong with that?

Speaker 25 (01:06:39):
Yeah, but there is a separation of powers and it's important,
you know, strong with democracy like house, it does work
that we recognize that. And that means that you know,
we can't come out and openly criticize the judiciary and
they need to stick to those rules as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Do you agree with that, Jinny? Would you like to
say a whole bunch of stuff you can't.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
The problem with Brook van veld ensued is that she's
appointed some people and she's expecting them to make different decisions,
so she thinks those appointments will have an impact on
decisions that will flavor favor employers over employee games, and
it will save the government money by employee claims not succeeding.
So that looks like she's appointed people who are friends

(01:07:19):
with her to give her decisions.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
That's that's standard politics. I mean, I mean, how did
Meland your appointments.

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
It's kind of bordering on it's kind of bordering on
corruption when you do stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
The problem is that every government, every government appoints people
that they kind of like, we know that to be true.
It's just what you're saying is you can't really say
so whereas I would say, yeah, I appointed some people
are like and I want that. I want them to
do what I want them to do. That's what government is,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
Well that the problem is is provision and that legislation
that they are independent and who comments demonstrate they've been
appointed on the basis she expects them to make certain decisions.
So that's where you get into hot water when you're
a minister, that you're appointing people to make decisions that
are meant to be dependent, that actually have a way
of what you're wanting.

Speaker 25 (01:08:08):
Well, the first thing, The only thing that I would say,
Mike is and that I have my experience having been
in two national governments, is that we appoint people on merit.
They actually have to have the skills and the ability
to be able to do the job. Yes, governments like
to you know, they they like the people at their point.
But the first the number one criteria, This is not

(01:08:29):
a criteria.

Speaker 8 (01:08:29):
That labor stick to you at all.

Speaker 25 (01:08:30):
It's got to be on merit.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
And then if they do the wrong thing, just get
rid of them. What they did with quickly got He's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
You guys need to you guys need to focus.

Speaker 25 (01:08:38):
You guys need to focus on merit and not on
a whole lot of other things because it just weakens
and diluctions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Who I thought of last week, Ginny we put Winston
Peters and saying you're going to have diplomats not politicians,
and that King. No one would argue against Nick King,
would they. I mean, she seems to have done an
excellent job and Bolder in Washington.

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
Yeah, that's right, Yeah, they have. There are some ones
there that have done a really good job. And the
other one who was quite good was the was it
Jonathan hunt in London. Yes, yeah, so yeah, so I
think that you have been ones in the past that
do that, do a good job, and for all, for
all this the fo I got actually Tripa was doing
pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
Name you made that up. You just made that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:19):
The people went over there from from the other side
and they were like, he's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
All right, Price.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
He was so good.

Speaker 25 (01:09:27):
He played Bury Medalow full noise.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Right, Mark, I've got I've got a I pray you're
the messenger. I'm not blaming you. But here's this morning's problem.
On the Mike Hosking Breakfast, Simon Watts. Do you know,
Simon Yes, is in Australia. He wouldn't get up for
us at five point thirty unfair or not?

Speaker 25 (01:09:48):
I don't know. I can't call me that because you've.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Got of the government. You'd get up at five thirty
for us, wouldn't you?

Speaker 25 (01:09:54):
Well of the show every week?

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
No, I know, But I mean even even if you weren't,
you'd still get up at five thirty for us, wouldn't
you if you were in Australia.

Speaker 25 (01:10:02):
I get up regardless of what the error is, because
I'm on the show every week and and I just
think it's important to turn up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
How we would you get that?

Speaker 22 (01:10:11):
You should?

Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
But maybe it's like actor and individual freedom. Maybe Simon
just feels like he's got so no, he's national. Actually no,
I'm getting the other Simon. Simon wats is the climate change?

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yes he is?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Simon.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
What do you think we were talking about?

Speaker 7 (01:10:26):
Simon? There's another Simon that's a bit funny from X.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
What's his name, well, Simon court Court.

Speaker 25 (01:10:31):
Yeah, yeah, Simon is extremely hard working. The only thing
I would say he just won't get up at. My
experience on the show is that every time the labor
member asked for me to do a pre record because
they're overseas and they didn't want to get out of here.

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Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
I've never done that.

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Time Jo asked to do a pre record for the record. Ginny,
it's fair if and when you get to government and
you're the minister of something important, what's the earliest I
can ring you get you on the biggest radio program
giving I do it.

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I'd set my alarm and wake.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Just for the recorder. A couple of you raised yesterday
as part of the nurse's strike. There's another one on tomorrow,
and we were talking about what nurses earn and don't
earn and all that sort of stuff, and they got
the usual angst going. Having said that, a number of
you suggested it wasn't about pay. It was about staffing.
Now it is about staffing. I don't think anyone disputed that,
but to quote the Nurses Organization president and annuals in

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addition to pay equity, so that's one of the points,
pay equity. So it is pay and better staffing. Nurses
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Speaker 22 (01:14:34):
Hello, Nett.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
I was watching Jacinta the Great Premier Allen yesterday standing
in a park when that I do? Can I just
apologize on behalf of all New Zealand. By the way,
I didn't realize the clown the ball guy with the
mustache was born in New Zealand. Did you know that?

Speaker 22 (01:14:51):
I did not know that this is mister Sewell, who
the Nazi leader.

Speaker 12 (01:14:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
So unfortunately we produced them and gave them to you.
So I'm sorry, thanks for that.

Speaker 22 (01:15:02):
Yes, I'm as Sul spent the night in jail. He'll
appear in court the day over, not over that what
he did yesterday where he yelled at the Premier Court
or a coward, but by what happened after those protest
of arches on Sunday where he and a bunch of
his stuggish now Nazi mates decided to storm an indigenous
camp called Camp Sovereignty in a park in Melbourne just

(01:15:24):
off the CBD. So he's going to be in court
this morning. I'm just wondering whether KIW Mike Bush is
now regretting putting his hand up to become the new
police Commissioner of Victoria. He's got a bunch of neo
Nazis running around causing trouble. Dessi Freeman's been now eight
days on the run and still not being discovered after
shooting dead two police officers, and we now have a

(01:15:44):
spade of carjackings in Melbourne like we've never seen. The
reason I raised this is on Monday there were two.
One of them is particularly bad. And all this stuff
now gets captured on cameras that people have on the
outside of their homes, so you actually get to see
it in almost real time because the police get hold
of the footage and then it gets to the media.

(01:16:05):
Mother takes two four year olds out into a car,
puts them in the back seat, and then goes back
inside to get a second child in a school run.
And when she goes back inside, a small car pulls
up out the front. Two women and two blokes. The
two boats get out. One of the boats gets in
the back seat of the car with the four year olds.

(01:16:27):
The other boat gets in the driver's side, and they
steal a car and take off down the road. Mother
comes running out screaming that my children are in the car.
She doesn't see them by the way for another forty
five minutes, and these idiots who carjacked the car dumped
the two four year olds at separate locations about three
kilometers down the road, one of a mushroom farm, one

(01:16:48):
somewhere else. The only reason that anyone knew where these
children were is that a very brave local saw what
was happening and followed them in his own car and
dial triple O, and the police turned up. The mother
does not see the children for forty five minutes, doesn't
know if her four year olds have been killed, dumped on.

(01:17:08):
They were dumped on the side of the road, and
they're not together, these two kids. That's what's happening in
twenty twenty five in one of the biggest cities in Austray.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Do they get them?

Speaker 22 (01:17:19):
Nope, they're still on the run and the car is
still missing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Who are they? Is it a gang? Is it just
young thugs? Is it organized? Is what is it?

Speaker 22 (01:17:29):
Social media is driving it? I'm just a bit worried
that there is a current trend to try and steal
cars with kids in because there was one attempted two
days ago before that, and then another one yesterday as
well where people tried to get a car with children
in it. I don't know what's driving it, but whatever
it is, it's completely out of control. I now live

(01:17:51):
in a lawless city. I described it on Sky last
night as being like Johannesburg of the nineteen nineties, where
you were told not to stop a trap clients if
they were read and you had to have large dogs
in the backyard and fences of barbed wire around your
house when.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
You listen to three AW and those sort of stations.
Because we've had the sort of this conversation in this
country out the last couple of years post COVID, Melbourne
strikes me as a lost place. If you had a choice.
Are people moving from Melbourn to they want out?

Speaker 22 (01:18:21):
Yes they are. The government will say, I know we've
got a net positive migration. You of course you have,
because we're bringing one hundred and eighty three thousand people
a year into the country and a lot of them
end up in milk. Anybody of a certain age who
can afford to is leaving land. Tax is driving you out,
Lawlessness is driving you out. Quality of living's driving you out.
People are going to places like Adelaide, Perth and to

(01:18:43):
Queensland and leaving the state. If you listen to my
old radio station, yes they broke the story yesterday of
the latest carjacking, but they're probably not as strongly worded
as I might be if I was still there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Unreal I read Bob Carr's piece in the paper, him
defeating him being in China. Has it washed? I mean,
does he have a point and you know or not?

Speaker 22 (01:19:07):
You want a headline out of the Australia this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
What's that?

Speaker 22 (01:19:10):
One absent ambassador and two useful idiots will attend Gee's parade.
That's how it's going there in this country. The two
useful idiots are bobka and my ole mate Daniel Anders,
the former Premier of Victoria. As you you'll have this
parade it's due on today. Kim John unturned up good
on him in an armored train with his fifteen year

(01:19:33):
old daughter. Is this a movie about widows or what's
going on? I mean, it's imagine that, you know, he
leaves his country in some sort of old steam train
that's got armored. I mean ten thousand troops from March,
hundreds of pieces of ground equipment, one hundred PLA Air
Force jets, all celebrating China's magnificent victory over Japan. And

(01:19:53):
you've got these two people, seriously, Daniel Anders, who ruined Victoria,
he may as well stay there. And Bob Carr, who
I know Bob Cover very well. I worked Insidery for
a long time and had a great relationship with him.
But Bob's just completely lost the plot they've turned up there.
It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
See we've got John Key, former prime minister there, and
Helen Clark, former Prime minister there. And they said they
thought long and hard, But I got to say, if
I was in their position, I wouldn't be within a
thousand miles of the place I mean the imagery. It's
not about the commemoration of the war. That's what car
said in the paper yesterday. It's we're commemorating the war.
It's got nothing to do with that. It's got Kim
and Vlad and Mody and all the other nut jobs.

Speaker 12 (01:20:34):
It's raining.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
It's exactly. It's a reorganization of the power structure of
the world that's going on. That's what that's about.

Speaker 22 (01:20:41):
Correct, And the Australian government has sent their ambassador who's
in China two thousand kilometers away. He's gone, He's gone
to the town as far away from Beijing as you
can possibly get without leaving China. That's Albanezi's mobticular.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You mentioned one eight five thousand. That number came out yesterday.
That's a net gain. And you've had all your anti
Imma greation protest. Does one eight five thousand do it
for the government or is it still angsty?

Speaker 22 (01:21:05):
Still angsty? I mean that a lot of people that
like zero that's never going to happen. But in the
middle of a housing crisis, people can't afford to fine
rental properties. Why are we bringing that number of people
into the country. And the other question a lot of
people are now asking are we bringing in people with
the skills that we need to fill the vacancies because
we've got a low unemployment break And the answer to
that question is no as well. And that includes just briefly,

(01:21:27):
that we're bringing back now some of these so called
ISIS brides who've been stranded in Syria for years. It's
always been a very hot topic and apparently the government's
letting some third party get involved in bringing these people back.
Thirty four of them, forteen adults and twenty children there
at a joint called the l Roje camp in Syria.

(01:21:48):
Many of these women went over there to support their
husbands who joined up with ISIS. A lot of people
are saying, why the hell would we bring them back
to persistly?

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
How you mate, We'll catch up next week. Appreciate a
step price out of Australia. The other thing I raised
was still Monday and this is going to come back
and bite them as well. That Nauru deal that was
signed on Friday that no one knew about. The Home
Affairs Minister went across the NARU gave them four hundred
and eight million. What we now find out it was
four hundred and eight million plus seventy million dollars a year.
Four who knows how long? And somebody went how long?

(01:22:16):
And they weren't answering that question. How many people weren't
answering that question? And when do they leave Australia weren't
answering that question either, So let's yet to play out
eight forty five.

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We're going to put the Offia stuff on here one day.
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they're going to be back in court there. You remember
the little toothcase. She was a woman they hired for
about five I think it was five days. She was

(01:22:58):
a fillin at the ABC and they said, Antoinette, can
you please not do anything radical on the social media
while you're working for us? And she went off and
started talking about Palestine, so they sacked her. She sued
them and she won. So today they're back in for
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(01:23:18):
of thousands of dollars. The ABC you're asking for somewhere
between thirty seven and fifty six thousand dollars, So we'll
see how that plays. It hasn't played out well for
the ABC so far, and my suspicion is today is
not going to be a lot better. By the way, Mike,
I thought, I understood, MMP. Really, what makes you think
that no one does goodness? Say, don't say stuff like that.

(01:23:39):
But if Hena Ay wins the by election and moves
from list to an electorate, why to labor also get
another list? MP. It is a good question, Debbie, and
the answer is yes they do, and Georgie Dancy is
on the next cab off the rank. The reason they
do is that it's proportionality. It's the proportionality of your vote.
So if you get ten percent of the vote, portionality

(01:24:00):
you have is ten percent of the parliament, which is
twelve unless, of course, you get an overhang, which you
do because of the Maori Party, because they won more
electorate seats than their proportionality and their vote. We're allowing
them to. So that's then the overhang coming.

Speaker 21 (01:24:13):
I already had a hitache this morning because of these
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Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
And so anyway, the proportionality, you've got to still have
the proportion of your vote, which means labor get another
list seat. Don't shoot the messenger. I didn't invent it,
and in all honesty, I can't remember, and on heart,
I can't remember whether I even voted for it all
those years ago. But it's what we've got. We're not
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still an overhanging as there is because the Maori Party
got whatever two percent of the vote, and they won
all of the Maori seats bar one, so they got
six or five, and so if they lose they'll have four,
so they still won't be entitled to the two percent
because the two percent is not over the threshold and
if you do win an electric seat, but you only
get two percent of the vote, you get slightly more

(01:26:10):
so you can get two, possibly three. But therefore because
they've got four, there's the overhank.

Speaker 21 (01:26:15):
Are you are you thinking any of this is making
my head ache better?

Speaker 11 (01:26:18):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
I think I voted. We were talking off here. I
think I voted for STV, Glen voted FORESTDB, and I
voted for s TV. I think there were just two
of us.

Speaker 21 (01:26:28):
We should have advocated a little bit harder.

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Right, So, not only is Jack not a palm Inluction's
not Australian, but they don't talk like robots and never did.
Now honestly, honestly, are you listening to that thinking, hm,
that's a good deal a bit of get into the
Are you the same sort of person who drink toilet
water when Reese Walsh tells you to? I mean, is
that what's happening here? I mean?

Speaker 21 (01:28:05):
And also there was no mention of barnacles cars out
of exactly shaking ass freakin' do what I say?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Why is it? I thought Reese Walsh was moderately funny.
They were running news stories in Australia yesterday about how
serious this is and why is it serious? Is it
because the people who followed Reese Walsh on TikTok is
so thick they think that drinking toilet water might actually go.

Speaker 24 (01:28:30):
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