Full Show Podcast: 04 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The Mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed
to intrigue can use togs edb Welling.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
And welcome today the new police approach to mental health
call out that rolls out today. We celebrate with the
Black Caps. Gary Stead's in we look at the trade
out comes for us depending on who wins in America
this week. Lads in the commentary Boxer after right, of course,
Roll Little talks us through the new Tory leader Richard
Arnold on the trail and Steve Price as the Mighty
Australia as well. Hosking, Welcome to the week seven past six.
I tell you what the reported Friday was fairly blunt.

(00:32):
The Australian government beleagued by any number of cock up
scandals and a general malaise about the economy. We're looking
for a circuit breaker, looking for something to announce that
would spark a bit of excitement in the electric economies
are interesting at the moment if you're following them. I
would argue we in New Zealand have something genuine to
complain about. I mean, assuming the last quarter Q three
was negative and most people think it was. When the

(00:53):
numbers are finally published, it will show we have been
in three recessions and two years. As I keep saying,
no one has missed post COVID up worse than us.
In Australia last week the Treasurer was talking about a
soft landing for goodness sake, and he's right. Australia has
been performing a mile better than us and generally has
taken the post COVID period and handled it laudably Locals,
though they don't see it. They mown, they winge about

(01:14):
a lack of cash, rate cuts, but their economy is
growing and jobs are bullish. In America, if Harris loses
this week, it will in part be because most Americans
argue their economy is no good, and yet in many
respects it is. They've got jobs, they got growth. There
is no recession or anything close to it. But perception
is reality, which brings us back to Welbonezi, who has
announced a sixteen billion dollar sugar hit for those who

(01:37):
have student loans. Like Biden, who set out a program
to forgive loans elbows, offering you the chance to earn
more before you get to pay things back, hasn't worked
for Biden, did work for Helen Clark if you remember
all those years ago, a blatant bribe so close to
the election, widely credited with getting her across the line
in ninety nine. So let's see what happens in Australia.
He's in a world of pain behind to the polls,

(01:57):
and the election has to be held in the early
ish heart of next year. It'd be nice to think
that leaders treat money they mainly don't have with a
greater level of respect. But here's a simple lesson in
human frailty. Offer us something for nothing, or perceived to
be nothing, more likely than not, we'll take it and
maybe even thank you for it by way of a vote.
We probably know better, but we can't help ourselves.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Spanish floods and carnage probably haven't got the sort of
coverage here that they should have. But it is hard
to overstate the fury the Spanish of feeling over the
lack of response.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
We feel that we are abandoned by the government and
we are.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Helping each other, but there are a lots or fit
in the night, so we are scared.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Also, the King and Queen toured and they were abused
and yelled at and called murderers. Post budget and Brittain
the Chancellor has done the talk show rounds over the weekend.
Had to may a culpro on that bit where she
said there wouldn't be a bunch of large tax increases.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
I was wrong on the eleventh of June. I didn't
know everything because the previous government hit it from the country.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
They hit it from Parliament, and then it's all about
the states. Trump has been in North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (03:10):
We want to be unified. We don't want to say
bad things.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
About anybody, including our including our opponent.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
He's Hitler. He's Hitler.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
Well, you haven't here she talks about unity and then
she calls me hitler.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Harris was on SNL.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
I'm going to vote for us.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Great any chance you are registered in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, I I'm not.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
A full thing. By the way, about two and a
half minutes long. If yeah, but if you haven't, it's
worth a watch. It's close to being funny, and she
delivers it actually quite well. They rolled out Joe for
some reason.

Speaker 9 (03:47):
I justize and remember used to have a little trouble
going down the plot once and a while, But I'm serious,
this is.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
A kind of guy you're like to smacking it. Really,
I got new poles for you. By the way, it
is tight in Michigan.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Trump can narrowly when Harris could win by a little
or a lot.

Speaker 10 (04:05):
Nobody really knows.

Speaker 11 (04:06):
This little rural midwestern county holds the stake for both
candidates come next Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's the truth. Finally, NASA reckons they could well be
onto life in Mars. New studies ship Poulton Lab says
we should be one hundred seed actively investigating life on
Mars under the surface. We know about the water, of course,
and they theorize that below the surface there were frozen
Martian ice exposures. What we don't know yet is that
the ice can melt because of a thin and dry atmosphere.
So NASA is trying to recreate dusty ice to see

(04:36):
what can be done in the near future. News of
the World of Night will give you a fun fact.
I've got siple fun facts for you this morning. Just
shy of one billion dollars has been spent on political
ads up and down the ballot in the last what year,
two years, three years? Week? One billion dollars in a week.

(04:56):
Presidential race itself two hundred and seventy two million dollars
last week. More than ten billion dollars has been spent
so far on political advertising since the start of twenty three. Incredible.
Twelve past six.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
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Speaker 3 (05:17):
It's going to be a miracle of the f one
ever finishes today. Science has just crashed again after a
red flag stop. They've done a couple of laps. He's
in a wall. It's a yellow flag. So there's countage
unfolding moldover by the way. Their second round of the
presidential election. This is another of these pro Russia, pro
Europe races. The current president who's pro Europe, Sandu, didn't

(05:39):
get to the fifty percent first time round, so they're
trying to wrap up the second round to see if
you can get across the line. But we'll keep you post.
At fifteen past six seven, Funds Management, Greg Smith, Morning
to you the morning to Mike. Well, they said hurricane
and strikes, but twelve thousands not much of a number,
is it.

Speaker 12 (05:54):
Yes, Sidney had an impact, isn't it? So that was
down from two and twenty three thousand in September for
the US economy, well below estimates of one hundred thousand.
Was that twelve thousand for October weakest pace of job
creation since December twenty twenty. Did you say some mitigating factors?

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Yet?

Speaker 12 (06:10):
As you unresolved Boeing strikes, that's subtracted around about forty
four thousand jobs and a couple of hurricanes like the
hell back. The title response rate to the serve less
than fifty percent. It was actually the lowest reading since
nineteen ninety one. Over five hundred thousand people said they
couldn't work in October, and one point four million who
normally work full time said they can only work part

(06:30):
time because of the weather. They certainly had an impact
healthcare government that led the job creation as usual, but
lots of sectors saw job losses, including manufacturing. There were
visions as well, downward by one hundred and twelve thousand
for August and September. The unemployment rate that wasn't too
bad four point one percent, but two hundred and twenty
thousand people left the labor force in October, so it's
worth bearing in mine average hourly earnings they are up

(06:52):
four percent annually.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That was as expected.

Speaker 12 (06:54):
But yeah, that twelve thousand mike compares not that well
to the two hundred thousand average per month during twenty
twenty four, so quite a dip. I guess you could
say it presents a bit of a murky pictures of
those head to the polls on Tuesday markets, they just
took the news in their stride. I suppose cementing really
an adventurest rate cut by the feed later this week,
we're probably going to get quarter percent cut. And also

(07:15):
as their preferred inflation gauge came in at two point
one percent last week, so supports anario of the inflation
is under control. Well, that remains vulnerable to disruption, and
particularly under o' donald Trump administration, which is viewed as
a bit more inflationary.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Exactly, And give me some tech talk.

Speaker 12 (07:31):
Tech talk, So look, it's been a bit mixed as
far as the supercap tech names. Go Ye had alphabet
from numbers were strong, Microsoft and made a lest so
last week, but Amazon on Friday been an expected result
consistent with a lot of alphabets released. So the cloud
computing unit that propelled the momentum revenues they are up
nineteen percent. Advertising revenues they are also up nineteen percent
as well, and mentioning a forecasting revenues to go seven

(07:53):
to eleven percent year every year. So Amazon shares are
up over six percent on Friday. Apple they also beat
expectations for revenue in innings per share. iPhone sales up
six percent before six point two billion. It's around about
half of the company's sales. Total sales up by a
similar amount of the iPhone fifteen and sixteen were going
pretty well, although Asia for Apple was weak and they
didn't come. It was down over eight billion orthough they

(08:14):
had a one off text charge of ten billion in
Ireland to said of a text dispute there which has
been long running. She is and Apple they were down
two percent, up over twenty percent year to day still
but looks like sumer selling. Including Warren Buffett so big
show I had the way they've dumped around about a
quarter of their Apple holdings over the past three months.
They've still been around about seventy billion worth of shares,
but it's cut its holdings by two thirds.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Over the past year.

Speaker 12 (08:37):
But the Abuffet, he's done pretty well on the stock.
It's actually was in tenfold since he first started buying
eight years ago. I just want to have a textop
like Intel that sawed nearly eight percent. They gave an
upbeat forecast and boosted optimism that they're going to be
able to increase market share. They had a lot of
seventeen billion, but they're restructuring. They're trying to focus on
making chips for other companies. But until they've clearly behind

(09:00):
Video in the AI game, it's coming to cost in
terms of the share price. Until She is down over
fifty percent this year, it's actually being ejected from the
Dow Jones Index to be replaced by you guessed it
in Video and who She is a up one hundred
and eight percent this year and.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Blow me down if we're not building houses.

Speaker 12 (09:16):
Yeah, I mean, look, the economy is still tough, isn't it.
But yeah, there's some green shoots here in terms of
consent so stats NEWSEUALM report on Friday. There were nine
hundred and seventy six new homes consented in the September
twenty fourth quarter. That was up half percent on a
year ago, and standalone houses are up twenty four percent
first time since December twenty twenty one. Remember that peak

(09:36):
when there was a year and year increase in the
number of standalone houses. High density lodgings are still weak.
They were down fifteen percent, actually even weaker when you
take out a forty nine percent increase in retirement village units.
But overall we're seeing some signs of strength. September quarter
on the Dune quarter up six point two percent annually.
It was still down seventeen percent to three three six
seven seven in the year of September, but the pace

(09:59):
of decline is easing. That said, the comedy stall in
a tough place, as we know.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Mm hmm, give me some numbers.

Speaker 12 (10:06):
So the Dow was up on Friday, point seven percent
higher forty two zero five two s and P five
hundred up point four percent five seven two eight, nasdack
up point eight percent for one hundred point eight percent.
Nickey down to two point six percent.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
The Bank of Japan hit.

Speaker 12 (10:19):
Rates on hold, but said they could height rates further.
Hanks seeing it with that point nine percent ASEX two
hundred down half percent, NZ fifty. We were down point
six percent, Gold flat two seven four nine and ounce
oil up twenty three cents sixty nine spot forty nine
currency is the key. We down slightly against the US
fifty nine point six, up slightly against the Adeler ninety
point nine, forty six point one against Stirling, down a

(10:39):
half percent this week, busy week, as we know, we've
got labor market data so unemplointment rate expected to remain
under five percent. New Zealand were forty numbers in Westpac
and A and Z. We've got the RBA having its
traditional Melbourne Cup meeting Banker and it was also meeting.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
But of course all.

Speaker 12 (10:53):
Eyes on the US are the race looks to be
set to be even close with the election, and we've
actually got the small matter of the feed me lad
this week as well.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Okay, mate, go well, catch up soon. Preciate it very much.
Grig Smith Devon Funds Management, Chine is manufacturing fifty point three.
That's the Cackson s and P will take it. That's expansionary.
And my second fund fact of the morning, if you
invested one thousand bucks in Apple ten years ago, it'd
be worth eight thousand, eight hundred and eighty five dollars now,
so one thousand to play eight hundred and eighty five,

(11:21):
eight thousand, eight hundred and eighty five. But if you
thought Apple was good when they opened in nineteen eighty
and you invested one thousand dollars, you would get one
point eight five nine million dollars. Now it's twenty one,
you would News Talks ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
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Speaker 3 (11:47):
Whaty Mike, any chance of some talking information about the
new leader of the Conservative Party, you bet roder little
no less as well as directly after seven o'clock this
morning our meantime Boeing, by the way, watched this. In
the next twenty four hours, there's thirty two thousand machinists
who walked off the of it than the early part
of September, and they are after thirty five or forty
percent of lost count now in twelve thousand sign on
bonus and blah blah blah. They've cut a deal to

(12:08):
the extent the union says, take it, and they're going
to vote in the next twenty four hours, so watch
out for that. As regards the racing, Lawson is currently
ninth and Sonoda's eight. Verstappan if you followed this remarkably,
who started seventeenth is now leading, so both Lawson and
Sonoda are ahead of Perez. The thing is being I

(12:31):
cannot overstate what a cluster in an exciting way this
has been. They started well McLaren, but they are struggling now,
both Lander Norris and piastre A sixth and seventh respectively.
So the points implications here not to mention the career
implications for people like Liam Lawson all to play for
in a very wet and dramatic Parlo, Sex twenty.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
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day as we.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Mentioned earlier, but and ugly in Spain and Letitia have
been pelted with mother's the king and the queen, for
God's sake, they've been pelted with mud and objects. When
they visited those areas hit by the floods, Queen was
seen was mud on the face, bodyguard had a cut
on his face from a drinks can. They had to
get away from an angry mob over the perceptions basically
the royals haven't done enough, Plus the fact that one
of the only roads cleared and the city was in

(13:19):
fact then shut down for the motorcade were saying as
murderer in Spanish. Then, in contrast, although still involving anger,
you've got Jason Kelcey and a fan. The fan was

(13:40):
following Kelsey, baiting him over his brother, and Taylor cuzzy, chuzzy,
can I get up with this book? What anyway? The
homophobic slur was beaped out and Jason grabbing the phone,

(14:01):
smashing it on the ground walking away. Kansas City Mayor
Quentin Lucas Wade and I shouldn't say, he said, but whatever,
I appreciate Jason Kelsey standing up for his family. Something
wrong with people, isn't there anyway? Polling this morning, big
Pole as I'm sure if you're following this closer you'll
know about Iowa. The point that hasn't seemingly been made
by anyone in this country is that the poll is
by a gold standard polster. In other words, we believe Seltzer,

(14:25):
j Nne Seltzer, who has got a history of being
deadly accurate. Suddenly iowas in play. Iowa wasn't supposed to
be a thing. I'll give you the numbers in a moment,
Trump was supposed to bowl time. Then we've got the
final New York Times see in a college series of
poles in the Swing States. Yes, still tight, but of
the seven two are dead heats, four have gone to Harris,

(14:49):
only one to Trump. There seems to be a last
minute move on towards her. Anyway, we'll crunch the numbers
for you after the news, which is next her at
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Speaker 2 (15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:14):
I'm still ninth with fifteen laps to go. He is
currently being hunted down by Perez and the battle for
that is on. But will keep you posted. Des Moines
Register Mediacom Iowa poll so Iowa became a talking point
as of yesterday. Final POLLA worked you through the Swing States.
Iowa was supposed to be a slam dunk for Trump.
He's now down by three margin. EVERA in the polls

(15:34):
three point four. As I mentioned before the news, jay
n Seltzid did it. She's a rock star. They get
it and they tend to be accurate. So people are going,
what's going on here? What's significant about this? In September,
Trump had a four point lead. In June he had
an eighteen point lead. So it's gone from eighteen down
to four to being behind by three. What's happening? Everyone's

(15:59):
women independence and women late breakers in Iowa? Does that
extend to the swing states? I'll tell you new polling
in a mind of twenty two to seven. And of
course Richard aren't all over and the state side he's
with us shortly as well. Meantime, back here a new
twist in the old dental argument and who should pay.
New report suggests a fully funded dental system i either
state pace for it could cost less than what we

(16:20):
do right now now. Their argument is that lost productivity
and life satisfaction is worth five point four billion dollars.
Obviously we need to ask how they come up with
that new Zealand Dental Association policy DIRECA. Doctor Robin Wyman's
with us, Robin morning, good mining, How are you well,
thank you? How do you come up with it?

Speaker 5 (16:36):
Well, it wasn't our figures. Actually, this is a report
from another group talking about the cost impact of poor
dental health and what they looked at was actually the
lowest or the highest need twenty two percent, So it's
actually quite a little bit misleading to say extrapolate that
across the whole population. But what we do agree with

(16:57):
is that if you've got poor dental health, then it
does impact across and two more costs than just paying
for the visits to the dentist. There's certainly costs in
terms of lost productivity, in sick days, in your impact
on your life. So absolutely agree with that, and we've
had researched on earlier that showed similar things.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's funny thing if you follow the Farmac debate with
David Seymour, he's trying to argue something similar. So he
says if they can come to him and say if
you fund ex pill or potion, we can save why
number of dollars in the wider economy. He's opened to
that argument. So if he's open to that argument there,
it might be they're open to this argument here. Well,
it may be.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
And I think if the way we're looking at this
is to say, well, where are those higher needs and
where would you get perhaps the most impact. And so
what the Dental Association saying is it would make some
sense if you look at the research to increase the
free dental care scheme which goes up to eighteen years
old into the mid twenties. That's where we see quite

(17:55):
a peak of acute admissions into hospital and that young
adult group. We're not talking about fractures and things like that.
We're talking about infections and things that need to be treated.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's because they don't have the money. They've had it free.
They're out there on the workforce for the first time
or as a student, they don't have the money. They
don't go to the dentist. That's where the problems come
along well.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
But also that's where we tend to see some impact
into things like the hospital system, which is driving a
whole lot more cost than going to the dentists.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Where do you draw the line though, If you said free,
what is it? A check up? Is it a filling?
Is it root canal work? Is it veneers?

Speaker 10 (18:29):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
I think we'd talk about the essential dental care, so
check ups and fillings took out. If that needed to happen,
maybe you would go to root canal treatment, particularly if
you're talking about front teeth and those sorts of areas.
We're not talking about cosmetic treatments like veneers and orthodontics
and that sort of area.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Well, let's seehere it goes. Robin appreciated Robin and Wyman,
who's the New Zealand Dental Association policy director, twenty minutes
away from seven pasking. I can tell you where it's
going to go, and it's going to go nowhere, because
we've had this argument for years, and when you're stuck going,
if you don't do it this way, it's seventeen billion
there and twelve billion. They're just made up numbers, and
governments don't deal with made up numbers. Right, swing states,
So I alluded to the fact there were seven of them, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan,

(19:11):
North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. One is tied, one
goes to Trump. Rather, Arizona is up in Arizona forty
nine to forty five, in Georgia forty eight forty seven, Harris,
North Carolina forty eight forty six, Harris, Nevada forty nine
forty six, Harris, Wisconsin forty nine forty seven, Harris Pennsylvania,

(19:34):
dead heat, Michigan dead heat. So when they say it's tight,
it's tight, do they underperform the polls? Do they under
estimate Trump, Do they underestimate Harris? No one knows, and
that is what makes it so interesting slash exciting well
with Richard Shortley nineteen two.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
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Speaker 3 (20:00):
It be if you missed it over the weekend. By
the way, the courts for now have decided that Elon Musks,
if you want to sign up to my petition, you
can potentially win a million dollars a day. He can
carry on with that sixteen away from.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Business center of the world, with genial morning good what
he makes. Can you hear the clock ticking?

Speaker 12 (20:22):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (20:23):
I hope so, final pictures and final polls being made,
and as you say, it's still a deadlock. There are
some surprises though. One is that with two days till
the official polling start, more than seventy five million Americans
already have cast their ballots, voting early and in huge,
huge numbers. That has led to what you were just
talking about, that surprising Iowa poll showing that Kamala Harris

(20:43):
has picked up support in Republican read Iowa to lead
Trump Donald Trump in a state he has worn twice before.
According to the state's leading newspaper, the Des Moines Register,
Harris leaves by forty seven to forty four percent, however,
still within the margin of arab Trump calls this a
fake poll by an to meet same Pauline he praised
a few months ago when he was up, so there

(21:05):
is still no clear indicator. The New York Times Siena
battleground pole show Pennsylvania remains even, and that Pennsylvania number
is one reason why Harris Candle last minute trip to
Detroit last night to make a cameo appearance on snl
a's Saturday Night Live comedy show. She did a brief
bit with Maya Rudolph, who plays Harris in the show's sketches,

(21:26):
as Rudolph looked through a dressing room window at the
real Kamala Harris, who equipped this advice to her alter ego,
I'm just here.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
To remind you you got this because you can do
something your opponent cannot do.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
You can open doors.

Speaker 9 (21:44):
Yeah, referring to the trouble Donald Trump had the other
day when he tried to get into his rented gabbage
shrup to track to score a point against Joe Biden,
but missed the door handle as he tried to get him.
Harris also made herself the butt of a joke with
the comic.

Speaker 11 (22:04):
Like that do I?

Speaker 9 (22:08):
The top Republican commissioner on the Federal Communications Commission, blasted
Harris's isinal appearance as a quote blatant effort to evade
the government's equal time rule. Fair point, you might think
as the sketch end of the two women stood side
by side as Rudolph declared she was going to quote
vote for us in quote great, said Harris, any chance
you registered in Pennsylvania. Meantime, Donald Trump was having some

(22:29):
microphone trouble at a couple of rallies, including one in
Milwaukee where he threatened to quote knock people out, while
he also had my trouble in Michigan and called for
the contractor not to get paid. That's where he spoke
about shooting Republican Liz Cheney. Just joking folks, and started
playing with his mic stand in a way that shall
we say some as sexually suggestive. More directly, he said this,

(22:51):
I didn't need this.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
I didn't need to be with you today actor a
bit at a gorgeous beach and lots of places.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
Trump then told of some unnamed person who he said
had praised him as the greatest ever.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
They said, he's the greatest president so we've ever had?
I said, does that include George Washington and Abraham Lincoln? Yes, sir,
it does. I said, That's okay, I'll take it.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
And modest too.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
Harris meanwhile, has been bringing in the star power with
John bon Jovi and Alicie Keys at her latest events.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Are we doing that?

Speaker 9 (23:32):
So neck and neck down to the wire.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
And in the middle of all of this is Jerome
Powell and what he does.

Speaker 9 (23:38):
Yeah, which is possibly just as interesting whoever wins. The
Federal Reserves, expressing confidence at least in the short term,
with inflation continue to cool, the fedues indicating that they
are set to cut interest rates for second time this year. Economously,
expect a quarter of a point rate cut in December.
That'll be a huge relief to most everybody, especially ordinary folks,
if had made its first half a point cut back

(24:00):
in September. You recall, once it does settles over the
presidential election, however, the Fed likely will take another look
at things. Some economists have been saying the imposition of
high tariffs on imported goods and mass deportations of illegal
immigrants could send infations spiking again. Even Elon Muskim Trump
has said he would put in charge of a government
efficiency commission sort of cost Cutters says that process would

(24:22):
quote necessarily involve some temporary hardship. So if that's how
it plays, and you want to make some investment, maybe
early early next year, it might be the window.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
See your election, Dame, I appreciate it. Richard Arnold, state side,
speaking of money investments, the betting markets, jail partners, there's
a move against Trump at the moment. Arizona still likely Trump,
Georgia likely Trump, Michigan's now a toss up, Nevada's leaning Trump,
which is not as good as likely, and it was likely,
North Carolina likely Trump, Pennsylvania leaning Trump, and Wisconsin a

(24:53):
toss up for Trump. The numbers, once you crunch them
all and run through all your algorithms and work out
the various scenarios, still runs at about sixty two sixty three,
which means he's got a two and three chance of winning,
as opposed to Karla Harris who according to the market
has got a one and three chance of winning eleven
away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
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Speaker 3 (25:17):
The last time I reported, Peirez was up the tailpipe
of Lawson. Pereerz has st I won't to explain what happened,
but he cocked it up, which is why ultimately is
going to get fired and Limb's going to end up
in Red Bull. But now we've got Hamilton up the
tailpipe of Lawson. Lawson still ninth, Sonoda's eighth. Piastre, who's seventh,
has a ten second penalty at the end of the
race that will put him at the stage behind Sonoda,

(25:39):
not quite behind Lawson unless Lawson can make up some time.
If he can make up some time, or they can
both make up some time, potentially Piastre falls behind both
of them. So points for v Carb and a good
day out at the office. The real talking point of
it continues to unfold as it is at the moment,
will be for Snappan, who will cement himself as probably

(26:00):
the greatest racing driver of the mod NERA given he
started seventeenth. He currently leads and leads by a long way.
But the brilliance of what has happened in Sapollo over
the last couple of hours is that Elpine have Orconn
and ghasly second and third. Now they are the two
most with the possible exception of Salba, most useless cars

(26:20):
on the grid. And yet when the conditions are right
and luck is going your way, literally anything in F
one can happen. So the points they will collect today
are worth millions and millions and millions of dollars in
the Constructors Championship, which once again brings us back to
Red Bull. So if the Stapan does all he needs
to do, Perez doesn't because at this point, at eleventh
he collects no points whatsoever. And once again Helmet and

(26:41):
Christian will get together after the race and go, oh,
coms that guy track or Strolen in the car? And
why don't we put Liam in all words to that effect,
And we'll see what happens in the final three meetings
of the race. But as we go, we got what
do we got but ten laps to go? Some like
that three laps to go. So as long as they
can hold their positions, liams and the money. So This

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is good five minutes away from seven pal.

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So exciting that what can I tell you one roof
this morning, I had done the business for us. They
found the best suburbs in the country in terms of
potential for growth. It's their Hot one hundred. It's the
Hot one hundred. They've looked at suburbs worth affordability, resilience
in the recent downturn, number of building consents issued in
recent years, mortgage data, employment proximity, property price, population growth
and how many houses got a front portion. I made

(27:33):
that last bit up. Suburb with the highest average property
price in the Hot one hundred is Mount Eden in
Auckland at one point seven nine million. Lowest average property
value is wi Raw at three hundred and thirty eight thousand.
Average property value in the top one hundred is seven
hundred and eight thousand. So what are these top ten?
Where are we at? Well, let's go number ten. Number
ten is master Ton with an average property value of

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five thirty three, scored highly on price growth, affordability in
population growth. Night there's Wanganui four hundred nineteen thousand are
scored highly on ownership mix, affordability and development land. Eighth
is Takeaniny in Auckland average property price nine hundred and one,
but building consents and affordability is good from an Auckland
point of view. Seventh Auckland Central five hundred and seventy

(28:14):
three thousand. Why is that so lowell its apartment Central, amenities,
employment and affordability. Sixth is Waltham in christ Church by
the Old Pool average property value five seventeen, resilience to shocks,
affordability and rental growth, plenty of new stock in the area.
Fifth is Mungmery, once again an Auckland eight hundred and
forty five average turnover, amenities, employment, and new stock in

(28:36):
Mungery means it's fifth. Fourth Sydenham and it's in territory
five sixty four thousand. Resilience to shocks, affordability, rental growth.
Third is o Tahooho or Otaho who as we now say,
seven hundred and forty six thousand, ownership mix, amenities, employment
and rental growth. Second is Mount Wellington, also in Auckland,

(28:57):
nine hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars. Why do we
like Mount Wellington amenities, employment and new stock And the
number one suburb and the one route Hot one hundred
is East Hammicky average property value of just over a
million dollars. In fact, let's call it one point one,
scored highly on turnover, our ownership mix, amenities, employment and

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development land. Basically East Hammicky has got it all. So
there we go the Hot one hundred And if you
want to fill your day with more excitement, you can
have a look at the other ninety or so that
we didn't mention. Police are changing the way they do
mental health callouts. You can see the angst by way
of media coverage and this and the ensuing weeks. Can't

(29:37):
you how many lobby groups and pressure groups and non
government organizations are there that are just sitting by their faxes,
emails and telephones ready to send off alarmist stories about
the things that were missed by the police. Chris Carhill
from the Police Association with Us. After the news, which is.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
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Speaker 3 (30:07):
He'd be please seven past seven. So today's the day
the coppers start pulling back from the mental health care
out call outs, the threshold to transport patients has increase.
There will be fewer visits to mental health clinics, handovers
to health staff will be shorter. Police Association President Chris
Carhill back with us. Chris morning, Good morning, Mike. You're
feeling good about this or not?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
Yeah, look we are.

Speaker 13 (30:26):
It's difficult that it's had to be saying that we've
sort of forced upon how New Zealand. They haven't come willingly.
But the bottom line is it's about the patients. Shout.
It's the right care from the right people, and that's
what's important. These people sufframental stress aren't criminals.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
No, it's not your fault. But I see this as
a mine field. I see any number of NGOs and
people wanting to stir trouble politically ringing, any number of
newsrooms going and I left them there and they did this,
and the police were nowhere to be seen, et cetera.
And that's and that's that's for you to deal with,
isn't it.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
Well, police will school go to anyone that's riskahan themselves
or harming someone else. That's still the bottom line. For police.
But if we don't change, nothing will change, and that's
what we've learned from overseas. But if police just stay
in this space and it's eleven percent of all the jobs,
please go to a these mental health jobs. So if
police just stay there, nothing will change. House have to

(31:18):
step up and look after these people.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Is it difficult for the individual compa to make the decision.
So you're sitting in a hospital ward, the person's unstable,
the nurses and the doctors are concerned. How long does
a police person stay there when nothing's actually happening.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
But could well?

Speaker 13 (31:34):
Sometimes two or three ads, I think is the average,
Sometimes five or six ads, and that's a ridiculous amount
of time that I think that's the pressure point is
police and nurses are on an operational level, get on
really well and understand what needs to be done and
that we don't want any tension going on there. So
I think that's the bit that's going to have to
be watched really closely. But that's where how they have

(31:54):
to step up and make sure they've got the resources
in place to assist these people and not just leave
police officers baby sitne has they've done for years.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Hand on heart you reckon this is going to go
smoothly or not or we just don't know.

Speaker 10 (32:06):
I think there'll be a.

Speaker 13 (32:06):
Few heck ups. But you know, if we look at
what happened overseas, it's led to bitter outcomes for the
patient and that should be the most important thing. They're
getting the help they need sooner.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Good stuff. Chris appreciated it as always, Chris Carr Hill
Police Association President namon. It's past seven beaking in Britain
for the Tories as the party members. After a three
month process involving the party MP's decided who's going to
lead them? Can we bad knocks taking them to the
promised Land? Allegedly she's the sixth leader of nine years.
Rod Little's with us, Rod, very good morning to you. Morning.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Rod.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Is Rod with us or not? Phones blind up? Let
me come back to that in just a couple of moments.
Insurance information for you. Let me see if I can
do this here, you're there, rod In talking, got your mate,
well done. My apologies to you. As we discussed last Thursday,
wasn't necessarily a surprise. Is she a placeholder or potentially

(33:05):
one of the greats?

Speaker 14 (33:07):
That's the interesting question. And well done and well done.
What the people who supported her are trying to say
is that she will buck history by being the real
one who will take the Conservatives to the next election
and win it. Of course, history is against her. What
tends to happen when a big party has picked out

(33:28):
powers that they go through two or three leaders before
they can agree upon one who the public likes. But
there is the suspicion with Kenny Badenok that the public
will like her. She is fourth right, perhaps two fourth rights.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Sometimes.

Speaker 14 (33:45):
The most The Guardian could get on her to do
her down today was to say she doesn't say thanking
very often, and there is a question about her humility
and her abrasiveness, but all things which, as the tours
will tell you, were leveled at Margaret Thatcher when she
acceeded to power in the mid to late nineteen seventies

(34:10):
and went on to win a landslide election. I think
she is a very very good choice, and I think
she's been I'd been the kind of leader in waiting
for a couple of years now. Already the Labor Party
has got itself in trouble with Dawn Butler. One Labor
MPs saying that she is a black face white supremacist.

(34:33):
This is from a party which has never had a
black leader, never had a female leader, you know. And
this all does play a little bit with the public.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
How much of her success depends on her driving her
party more to the right of the conservative end of
the spectrum versus labor being in it.

Speaker 14 (34:53):
An awful lot about winning the next election depends upon
labor being inept, and she will have to hope that
Labour comature being an extribuse. They've certainly been that for
the first three or four months of the of their reign.
She will hope that they will continue to do that.
I'm not sure it's dragging the party to the right

(35:14):
terribly much. In some ways, she's quite a pro leveling
up politician. She does appeal to the red wall there
are on the on the social issues on the on
the conservative kind of social issues of transgenderism, race and
all that stuff. She is very very firmly on the right,

(35:37):
but then so is the large majority of the British public,
so I don't think that's a huge problem for her.
What will be a problem is sniping amongst the conservative
MPs who are in there, especially the left wing MPs
such as people like Christopher Chope, who shortly before she
won her contest against Robert Sheenrick, said that she would

(36:01):
spend too much time with her children rather than leading
the party. That's the level of opposition she's facing the moment,
and I don't think she will give it much mind.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Gradon, catch up with you tomorrow. ID appreciate I very much.
Run a little out of the UK for us this
morning for thirteen minutes past seven. Past week they election day,
of course, but we also in the morning get our
unemployment figures, which will not be good if you generally
subscribe to the idea that as things come right, not
that they are necessarily at the moment. But there are
some green shoops. There is some hope in some of
the surveys that it's unemployment that always drags the chain.

(36:33):
They think the guest work from the so called experts
is anywhere between four point nine to five point one,
midpoint of five. What worries me is the ASB is
saying that's few signs of imminent economic recovery are evident.
I think that's fair, But they say demand for workers
expected to remain weak heading into twenty twenty five and

(36:53):
the unemployment rate set to reach six percent, which is
a number I've not seen before. I think the RB's
go that, maxing out at five five, even lower as
six percent by mid twenty twenty five. So there's still
some pain to go.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
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Be Lads and the commentary box after eight o'clock with
the Sport of Course speaking which sixteen minutes past seven.
It has been quite the quite the arting in India,
hasn't it? Series whitewash, three tests, three victories, first time
we have ever done. At magic moment, it's all over.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
This is the greatest Test series when in New Zealand
Test cricket history.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think it's probably fair. We won by twenty five
Gary Steeds with us morning mate.

Speaker 15 (37:36):
Yeah, hi, Mike.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Of all the things you've done, where's it sit?

Speaker 15 (37:41):
Probably right up there. Look, I think winning in India
is incredibly special just one Test, but win three in
a row over here is Yeah, it's really amazing. And
I said to the guys today I think for me
anyway right up there with winning the World TIS Championship.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Take us through how it happened. So first time you
think this is great, weren't expecting it maybe, but good
on us, and then it sort of starts to build
from there. Did have that feel about it?

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (38:14):
Look, I mean we knew that after the first Test match,
which probably favored us in terms of the pitch conditions,
and that a little bit more than we're expecting that
it was always going to be tough after that, and
they produced a couple of turners in Pune and then
in Mumbai, and I guess that's the one thing that

(38:35):
sort of makes you most proud is the way that
we've adapted to beat them sort of at their own game.
And that's yeah, particularly pleasing, I think as a coach anyway.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Are they gracious and defeat the Indians? Have they come
up to you and go, can't believe it? Well done?

Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (38:51):
They were, They were very gracious. I think when you
play over here, it's hard if you haven't been here
to really understand. I guess the magnitude of the crowd
as well, and the noise that they make. And you
always talk about silencing the crowd if you can, and
if you know if you've done that, you're you're in
a good position and they certainly ride the highs and

(39:13):
lows with their team.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Is there hell to pay for the Indian team from
the locals and the press?

Speaker 15 (39:19):
H yeah, I imagine there is. There's always pressure, I
think on if they're not if they're not winning, because
they're expected to perform and win all the time. So
that's certainly nice of being in our shoes. Anyway, have you.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Got something you can go on with now? I mean,
is this a thing or was this a moment in time?
Do you reckon?

Speaker 10 (39:40):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (39:40):
Look, I mean every test you go into or every
every series you play, you go in with the highest
of hopes and hoping that you can play your best cricket.
And I guess that's the one thing that's most pleasing
is I think the cricket that we've played has been
outstanding and there's been contributions from from everyone right throughout
the whole team throughout the s So delighted for the guys,

(40:02):
and I guess all the hard work that you do
put in that it's nice for it.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
To pay off like this. I reckon, go well with it,
might appreciate it. Gary Stead out of Indie this morning,
heading off of force to Sri Lanka headline in the
Sitting Morning Herald, which doesn't normally come New Zealand cricket
doesn't involve Australians, just a bunch of keywis taking on
the world, which was a nice headline. By the way.
I'm no football fan or expert, but I watched that
Auckland Phoenix thing and I made an observation in the
opening games because I've been sort of fascinated new franchise

(40:29):
Bill Foley big money. Can they build a side from
scratch and do well? And from my observation at looking
at Auckland, I thought they looked like a fast, agile,
aggressive looking side. What an interesting game it'll be against
the Phoenix, and the Phoenix is going to ask themselves
some serious questions, having been thrashed as to just what

(40:50):
it is they've been doing for the last handful of years.
If some people can come along in Auckland, buy some players,
put a team on the field and be three zip
with not a single goal scored against them in their
opening three weeks of the contest, while the Phoenix have
been busying themselves doing god knows what for several years now. Anyway,
more later seven twenty one.

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Can I thank Mike Grimshaw for saying what he said
over the weekend. Mike is at the University of Canterbury. University,

(42:24):
by the way, with a very good reputation. According to
the vast swathes of late teens we currently deal with
in our lives are there's great demand among students from
all over the country. Anyway, Mike's associate professor wants university
to return to elitism. He didn't put it that bluntly,
but he did use the word elite. And the word
elite is stoked with gunpowder these days, full of charge

(42:45):
in this egalitarian society of ours. I thank him because
it isn't easy to speak your mind in this country,
asked Mike King. Grimshaw sees too many of what he
calls functionally illiterate kids in classes and classes as his
other problem, no one actually goes to classes any more.
COVID taught us to isolate not just from the virus
but from life, apparently, and he argues that because universities

(43:06):
will fall over backwards to keep you enrolled. Turning up
is no longer a deal break up. His argument is
naturally new. The idea that kids pop out of high
school completely unprepared for university has been an issue for years,
but once again, because we've decided Uni is a thing
and you should go. You go whether you want to
or are ready to go or not. It's elitist nonsense.
Of course, the university is a path to success. I

(43:28):
mean it can be, but only if you want it
to be, and only if you're on a path that
requires that. Those of us that never went, never wanted
to go, many a time, have made a decent go
of life anyway. So Mike wants to return to a
form of elitism. In other words, bums on seats has
led to a lot of people getting bits of paper
they call qualifications that lead to not a lot of
places and often leave you with a debt to resent

(43:48):
for many years of not a lifetime. He argues, for
a higher quality of learning, it should be a place
you need to achieve to get into, not just turn up.
It's refreshing to hear it, not just because he's right,
but because a lot of people think the same thing.
They're just too afraid to say so far less actually
do something about it. Pasking Mike four hundred and twenty

(44:09):
bucks return on my fifty bucks tab investment in the
India Test. Good score, Well done, John, Congratulations to you, Mike.
Why does Lawson get a job ahead of Sonoda? It's
not a bad question, It's been asked before. In essence,
he's a hot head. They've never really got on with them.
He at times can be very good. At times he
just doesn't know what he's doing. He's also linked with Honda,
and he's only there because of Honda. And when Honda

(44:29):
leave Red Bull, which they will be doing at the
end of twenty six I think it is. It might
be the end of twenty five things the end of
next year. Anyway, when he went Honda goes, he probably
goes with them. That's the basic answer to the question.
So Wednesday, we may know, we may not. But the
difference between the two is stark when it comes to

(44:49):
things like tariffs and international relations. Where does New Zealand
sit if Trump wins and he whacks all of these
tariffs that he's talking about. In other words, one of
the booming economies for US at the moment in terms
of experts, and they've got some sheet and beef numbers
for you actually. But one of the booming economies for
US in terms of exports at the moment is the
mighty US of a wine sheep beef hought. They're lapping

(45:12):
it up. They cannot get enough of it. But if
Trump wins, on go the tariffs. So what are the
implications there? Look at the details after the news, which
is next on the mic Hosking bos.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
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Speaker 3 (45:33):
Togs dB God. Mike Phoenix had betted the Warriors all
day long. Now, don't go down that track with me.
I was commenting on the football. I'm not going to
into sports. Finding a football team to go against league
team is pointless. All I was saying is this, you
would make the comparison if there was another side, if
one of the you know, like of the Canterbury idea
for the league got up like whatever they were going
to be called the canterby Twataras or whatever, and all

(45:55):
of a sudden they started three and zero and they
were looking really good and they were a vastly superior
to the Warriors. You be going, what the hell of
the Warrior's been doing all of those years? So what
I'm saying is the Phoenix are under the gun because
they've got some serious questions to answer. How has it
they've been able to be around for so long and
be so ordinary? And yet Foley's team, and I suppose
the early part of the season, who would know at

(46:15):
this stage can be so impressive so soon? And what
I should have said earlier is, if you haven't followed
Bill Foley's story, who's the billionaire American behind all of this?
He started an ice hockey team. We had him on
the program a couple of months ago. He starts a
hockey team in the NHL in Las Vegas. They go
out and win the Stanley Cup in their first season.

(46:37):
It's unheard of. So there's something there in the model
he uses for startups that he's got going, potentially in
the Auckland FC story, because they if you watch the
game like I did. Once again, I reiterate, I'm not
an expert in football, but I can see what I
can see, and Auckland are a vastly superior side to Wellington.
All I'm saying is, how come twenty two minutes away

(46:59):
from Ape in the comment greet up to give the lads, guy,
I have eld D seven I've read to talk the
meantime the final days of the US campaign to twenty
twenty four nine seensibly irreccurately can call it, of course,
the universal acceptances. That's going to be close. The contrast,
depending on the result though for this country, could be huge.
Ins The US Council chairman Jonathan Mason's with us. Jonathan,
very good morning to you, Good morning. Make have you

(47:21):
enjoyed the campaign.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
It's much longer than the New Zealand campaign. If you
asked me to pick, I picked a New Zealand model
over the US model. It's the six week model over
the two year model.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
But yeah, I had a number earlier on. There's a
billion dollars was spent last week in advertising in America
in all the races. A billion dollars just advertising. It's gargantuan,
isn't it?

Speaker 11 (47:47):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (47:48):
And I mean I spent just spent the month of
October in the US and in Michigan, in battleground states.
Just think of the ads are eighty percent focused on
the election, well not like products, so they dominate advertisements.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
In a swing site of people engaged, Yes, I mean.

Speaker 6 (48:13):
There's there would be heavy engagement by people in politics
who love politics, on both the right wing and the
left wing, but there would be a significant portion they
fifty sixty percent of Americans or just having their daily
lives rather than like focused on politics and reading the

(48:37):
each story every day. So really interesting.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
I mean, is this going to be a record tune
out given what we would perceive to be unfolding, or
it'll just be the same old time all those who voting,
those who don't don't.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
I mean, I think it's going to be a big turnout.
It's partly it'll depend on the weather on Tuesday in
the US Wednesday in New Zealand, but I'm guessing pretty
high turnout like it was sort of eight years ago too.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, we can we say Harris is a continuation to
Biden from our point of view in terms of trade
and access to America.

Speaker 6 (49:15):
Harris hasn't made many pronouncements on trade, so it's likely
it's a continuation. But we'll have to watch the space
to see how it develops. Trump and our fear the
only business fear would be even with Harris, US will

(49:39):
gradually go a bit more protectionist, just because Harris will
start to be if she were the president, will start
to be interested in getting re elected in twenty twenty eight,
and the battleground states with the rest belt sensitivity will
be important to her.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Also protectionists against China or are we just collection damage
and we'll just be protectionist with everybody and we pay
the price of that.

Speaker 6 (50:05):
Yeah, So if Trump, yeah, it's protection against China, but
it's also generally being seen to protect US jobs. So
you know, those battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Ohio
got ravaged both by automation and the NAFTA trade deal

(50:29):
and the China trade deal, and it gave benefits to
the broader US economy, but those benefits are less visible
than the job losses in the battleground states.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
If that makes sense, Yes, it does. A problem with
Trump is one with you believe and when he says
I'm going to slap two hundred percent on John Deere
if they moved to Mexico, whether that's actually true or not,
and whether or not any of it comes to pass
and effect usk but what I do know is that
Americans are a buying a lot of our stuff these days,
from mat to wine, et cetera. Do we get badly
affected if Trump slaps the tariffs on Yeah.

Speaker 6 (51:06):
So first, just just to note your point being right,
is that in the last ten years trade New Zealand
US trade has grown at approximately twice our GDP rate
of growth, so close to eight percent. So we've had
a very profitable and mutually beneficial relationship with the US.

Speaker 10 (51:28):
The fear with.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Trump is he's talking ten to twenty percent tariffs and
that is about one and a half one to two
billion dollars on New Zealand goods exports, and that would
double if services are included. So you know a targeted

(51:50):
hit on the New Zealand economy is possible.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Well, I'm gonna have to waite and see on Wednesday
and see what happens. Well if it is Wednesday, of course,
Jonathan Mice. I appreciate your time, my New Zealand US Council.
And the point also that's made that Trump is inflationary
may or may not be true because what happens with
tariff's I'm sure you're aware when you slap it on
you pay more at the retail end of the market,
So whoever brings in a piece of beef from New
Zealand has to charge a higher price. That's the whole

(52:14):
point of tariff's. The question is do the consumers pay
that price, and therefore, if they do that then is inflationary.
The counter to that, and I'm sure he would argue
it is that the American domestic market is so large
in terms of production that whatever really they bring into
America can be reproduced locally anyway. And therefore it may

(52:36):
well be that, and this is his thinking, it may
well be that local production booms because of it. So
you can't afford a piece of state from New Zealand,
Well we'll get a bit of local. No, it's not
as good, but it's cheaper and we'll buy it. And
that's how patterns developed. So it'll be interesting to see
what happens. Sixteen two.

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Speaker 3 (52:57):
At be My Apologies. The gold Knights didn't win the
Stanley Cup in the first season. They got to the
final in their first season. It took them six seasons,
but Bill Foley's big goal was to do it within
six seasons. He did it within six seasons. Mike, I've
been unemployed for about six weeks now. I'm sorry to
hear that I'm not eligible to apply for any kind
of government benefit because we're fortunate in the sense we
won't lose our house or go hungry. But do I

(53:17):
get counted in the unemployment figures? No, you do not
unless you were registered as unemployed. You are not unemployed.
You could just be having a holiday or taking time out,
or be retired, or be self funded or whatever the
case may be. Not statistically, and lots of people you
talk about the public service, for example, all the people
that got laid off, do they end up on the
unemployment benefit. No, unless you end on the benefit, literally

(53:40):
you're not unemployed. You might go from one job to another,
plus collector redundancy check. In the meantime, let me give
you those meat numbers, by the way, and this is
where America fits into the overall equation. As far as
this country is concerned, we're processing fewer animals, which is
never good. But the Meat Industry Association five hundred and
sixty four million of red meat exported in September which
is eight percent down. US largest export market at one

(54:02):
hundred and forty three million, which is down five percent.
China though, down forty one So that's the importance of
them getting their act together. Most noticeable trend is the
drop in volume, largely due to the drop in production
over recent months. Less meat produced means less meat available
for export. Now why would that be. Some farmers are
giving up the cost of it's too difficult, a couple

(54:22):
of areas around the country, weather related issues, and of
course you got the forestation ongoing problem. You plant a
lot of trees, you can't have a lot of cows,
simple as that. Between June and August, beef and sheep
production dropped by twenty four percent. So these are things
to think about, if not worry about. Increases though in
sheep and beef exports to Canada up seventy one percent,
the Netherlands up forty eight to the UK up fifty

(54:44):
one percent, So we're still finding the markets. It's just
whether or not we're producing enough meat. And if we're
not producing enough meat, what is it we're doing to counterbalance?
It's certainly not tourism, I can tell you that. And
I was reading more cruise numbers over the weekend the
cruise into stry deeply worried about what's not happening over
the summer period, the ships that aren't turning up and
the passengers that aren't there, and the money that isn't

(55:06):
being spent insurance. This morning in Wellington, interesting insight are
from the insurance comparison website. Average home insurance in the
capital four thousand, four hundred and sixty seven bucks. Is
that a lot damn straight? It is because the national
average is twenty seven hundred dollars. In Auckland it's twenty
one hundred dollars. Who would have thought that Auckland's below

(55:28):
because of cause a lot of insurance is based on
the value of house. But Wellington, how do you afford
to live in Wellington? Your pipes are bursting, your council's
crap and you're paying on average four four hundred and
sixty seven dollars. And that's before you get to all
of the business of the buildings that need to be
you know, earthquake strengthened, and all the infrastructure that doesn't
work in all the cliff tops and so it goes.

(55:49):
It's hard yards for some ten minutes away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
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Speaker 3 (55:56):
Theyvy talking points today out of the fine, very wet
and dramatic if one in Sir Parlow one for staff
and will be regarded as probably the greatest racing driver
of the modern era given what he did. Elpine could
not believe their luck given what happened. And then of
course the racing bulls Liam and Sonoda had a very

(56:17):
good day, both scoring points. Peiers was the only Red
Bull driver not to score points a Liam talking after
the race about how tricky it all was.

Speaker 11 (56:25):
I nearly crashed probably ten times. I don't know about you,
but it was very sketchy even coming into the pit lane.
We made the cord to stop, and I came into
the pit lane and I wasn't stopping, and I was
aiming straight for the time like Paul at the barrier
at the pet entrance, and it just s grew up
before then. So I mean, obviously fair play to Alping
for staying out and surviving it. Obviously that's what we

(56:47):
should have done. But I think we also lost quite
a lot of time earlier with the spind with Pastre
as well.

Speaker 16 (56:53):
So yeah, crazy race.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
It was a crazy race and he did really well
because he had careers up as pipe for a lot
of it, and he had Hamilton once he dealt with Perezzi,
then had Hamilton, so he got a lot of praise
for his defensive driving.

Speaker 14 (57:05):
At the end.

Speaker 17 (57:06):
That defensive drive that you were putting in, you had
to be inch perfect to keep behind a red bull
Ani Mercedes, which on any normal day we'd expect to
be in a position of authority over you guys.

Speaker 11 (57:18):
It's just every lap exit, turns, twile, last corner, focusing
on getting maximum attraction. It was the main place I
was using the red tires because we were a bit
the opposite. We were strong at the start of the
sin after the red flag, but everyone was in a
training we couldn't really use it, and then it sort
of faded away for us. So yeah, partly because of
the pressure from behind, I would say, you know, spent
a lot of time defending. But yeah, it was a

(57:41):
lot of concentration.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Asking I'm a mantis. Just let me go back to
something that probably wasn't covered here over the weekend. Guy
called Hugh Hewitt. Doesn't matter who he is, he's a
radio host. He quit a Washington Post podcast podcast called
First Look, and this gives you an insight into why
the media is in the state it is in too
many parts of the at the moment. On this podcast
called First Look, Jonathan cape Hart alongside of Ruth Marcus

(58:06):
sitting there chatting away about the legalities of the upcoming
election and how many lawsuits are being filed. And that's
a talking point potentially for another day. So this is
what cape part says, is it me or does it
seem like this week Donald Trump is laying the groundwork
for contesting the election by complaining that cheating was taking
place in Pennsylvania by suing Bucks County for alleged to regularities.

(58:29):
Marcus replies, no election can be fair in Donald Trump's
mind unless Donald Trump wins it, at which point Hewitt,
before he quit, says, this Bucks County was reversed by
the court and instructed to open up extra days because
they violated the law and told people to go home.
So that's the lawsuit. It was by the Republican National Committee,

(58:50):
not Trump, and it was successful. So what the Republican
National Committee was saying is these people in Bucks County
closed the doors early and they told people to go home.
They were not entitled to do that. They broke the
rules and doing it, they went to court and they won.
And yet unless you knew that, then what was presented
on the podcast by cape harton Marcus was Trump's a
winer and they're just going to spend all their day

(59:12):
in court. And it was Hewitt who then gave you
the full story. And upon giving you the full story,
he said, you know what, I don't need this and
the quick and he walked out and that was the
end of that. So unless you know the full story,
do you know the full story? Is the question mark? Now,
where do we start? What do we start with this morning?
We won't start with the F one because it doesn't
count for anything of the grand scheme of things. So

(59:32):
do we start with the All Blacks because that was good?
I found that an intriguing game. I thought that was
an excellent game and an excellent exchange and we won,
so we beat England good three nil for the season.
Or do we start with the cricket because we've never
done that before? Or do we start with the Auckland FC? Hey,
Andrew and Guy in a couple of moments for you Big.

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Good right, see Andrew, Let's play a small game here.
This was the Andrew Sevil Breakfast Show, not the Mike
Hosking Breakfast Show.

Speaker 14 (01:01:06):
Probably should be.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
It will be one day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Your top sports story to start with is what is it?
If one? Because it's current? Is it the black Caps
because it's never happened before? Is it a rugby test?
Because most people like rugby. Is it Auckland FC because
they're one out of the box and where we're talking
about what is it now?

Speaker 18 (01:01:27):
I think it's a black Caps hands down? Yeah, yeah,
never never been done before by any cricket team. That's
my understanding and history for a series of three matches plus,
no one picked this Black Cap side to pick to
win rather one Test and if people say they did,
they're lying. No one picked them to win a match

(01:01:47):
at all in the series in India, given their form
leading into the Test series and to have players stand out,
Different players in each game stand out like a Rourke
and Saudian game. Ravendra, you had Santna in game two,
the ajas Paatel getting a ten wicket bag in this
latest Test match.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Quite extraordinary, yep, that is true. And guy, you to
be fair to you wrote them off before you they
went and fair enough to why wouldn't you? But what
is it about what's happened here? Do you think? Is
India a bit ordinary? Taking nothing away from the black Caps?
But you know, how do you explain it?

Speaker 10 (01:02:25):
They've still got the likes of Kohli Shama Jadeja, who
are shouldn gil They've still got a very very good
cricket team. Re chapaint they're an excellent team. They're playing
in India, whereas sav has just said, they don't generally
lose there. This is just a black Cats team that
I don't quite know how they've done it. Sav's right

(01:02:47):
that there have been I think previously or in the
last couple of years anyway, they probably relied on maybe
one or two players. This time, they've had six, maybe
seven players who have stood up at different times in
the series, and that's been key to this team. They
have beaten a very very good Indian team and this
would have to be right up there in New Zealand
sports greatest achievements. It can't be understated how much of achievements.

(01:03:11):
They haven't just sweept the series. They've beaten India convincingly
every time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Results.

Speaker 18 (01:03:17):
It's hard to work out, Mike, it's hard to work
out what's what's happened. Well, clearly what's happened is the
black Caps have played better than India.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
But yeah, but we're not we're not the site. We're
not that good as what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 18 (01:03:28):
Without I know and if you look at the teams
on paper, India much much better team. And also the
fact that Samana and Tests two and Patal and Tests
three they were spinning. They spun India out, then you'd
assume that India would spin New Zealand out for even less,
but that didn't happen. I think what's impressed me, apart

(01:03:48):
from the bowling, is that a few of the batsmen
from time to time have really applied themselves in very
very trying conditions against a very good bowling attack and
they've stuck to their guns and they've and they've scored
not huge amounts of runs, but enough to get this
to get this team through and the difference might you know,
you and I grew up watching Sir Richard Handley. You're
throwing the bourn rip through teams and that New Zealand

(01:04:09):
side will win on the back of Sir Richard Hanley.
But this team, this has been a real team team effort.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Well that's good stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:04:15):
And they and they don't have Kane Williamson's which is
probably the most remarkable thing about it all. And they've
just changed their captain to Tom Latham and he's just
got to threat the series in India.

Speaker 18 (01:04:26):
Test captains mystery.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Mystery mystery story of the weekend in terms of sport,
and I'm sure you've got it on TV one tonight, Andrew.
Is why Guy Havevelt who works for the tab it
is in Melbourne on the first Monday followed by the
first Tuesday of November and yet claiming to be on holiday.

Speaker 10 (01:04:47):
Is this for tax purposes?

Speaker 18 (01:04:50):
What's going on here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
So for a place in the world you could go
on holiday, you just happen to go to the place
with one of the biggest horse races in the world
while being employed by a group of people.

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
That this trip was booked before I changed jobs, I'll
have you know. And my wife was the one who
said that she wanted to go to the Melbourne Cup,
so I booked us a trip to the Melbourne Cup.
A couple of others have come with us. And I'm
currently looking out the window of our apartment actually over
over Albert Park the Melbourne scene of the Nice Yeah

(01:05:25):
and the Breakers play here tonight, so he might go
check that out as well.

Speaker 18 (01:05:28):
I want to break Break the Breakers also be grateful
top of the table with a new little team. It
seems as though Guy just seems to go from job
to job on.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
Holiday to holiday. Yeah, I will, Andrew. I don't know
if you remember, but do you remember when Guy was
at the Olympic Games and he went just after the
Olympic Games morning a massive holiday. Many people called it
like a European adventure like from the eighteen.

Speaker 18 (01:05:56):
Because he basically got to the closing ceremony rang working ship,
see you later.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
It was incredible. Excuse me, I'll correct a few things here.
I came straight home after the Olympic Games, so you
correct this. And Andrew is right. I may have done
four or five days where I changed jobs after the Olympics.
So in a little bit of a nice coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
Do you like a bit of work from home as well?

Speaker 9 (01:06:18):
Do you?

Speaker 14 (01:06:18):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Do you do most of the meetings from your office?

Speaker 10 (01:06:22):
Jeez, pray, let's diappear for the show. Everybody real more.

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I do worry save about some of the coverage of
the All Blacks, you know, like, yes we got home,
but we've got and go and if only England hadn't
missed the drop goal and stuff like, but they did

(01:07:04):
and that's sport and that's why it makes it exciting.
That's why I'm looking forward to Ireland because that's going
to be. If this wasn't the contest, the next one
will be.

Speaker 18 (01:07:11):
I'd imagine there'd be a fair amount of drama and
that too, but great game to what Yeah, well in
the end, a great drama. Look, you've got to give
credit to the All Blacks for hanging in their gritin determination.
You've got to give credit to England's defense, which I
thought was outstanding through the game, but too worried for
the All Blacks. Still a lot of air, is still
a lot of penalties. Still, the kicking game, I think

(01:07:33):
they'd probably kicked a little bit too much and the
kicking game was off in certain areas. I know you've
got to try different things against that English defense. But
I think, yes, the All Blacks lucky to get out
of jail on this one. But in sport, you take
that right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Couldn't agree with him more.

Speaker 10 (01:07:51):
That isn't that what makes and I'm not saying they're
a great team, but isn't that what makes teams great?
They're able to win games like that situation.

Speaker 18 (01:07:58):
You can still make a lot of mistake win exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:08:02):
The thing for me is the line out. The line
out was dreadful and they've got to sort that out.

Speaker 18 (01:08:05):
And the way that was throwing long down the back,
I don't know why you would do that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:11):
Well, that things the only option they have because they
can't win it normally.

Speaker 18 (01:08:15):
When for a change the bench came on and made
a real big impact. That scrum penalty was the crucial
in the end of the game.

Speaker 10 (01:08:22):
And then to find a way to clone Wallace Satitia.
I think the guy's an absolute machine.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
He's fantastic. Debbie Rogerson, yes guy, you know Debbie? Yes, yeah,
got her on the program tomorrow. What's what's my what's
my hot? First question?

Speaker 10 (01:08:40):
Well, Graham trained efficients to the two thousand and seven
Melbourne cups, so maybe having another runner and the covers.
Actually I just look out the window and there's a
couple of hot air balloons flying past. What a city
this is?

Speaker 18 (01:08:54):
Sort yes, you know the first question to Debbie Mike
from Guy would be, Hey, I'm over here and holiday
they get some free tickets under the flesh grand fan.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Exactly. It's not going well for you.

Speaker 10 (01:09:05):
But I actually, I actually think that sharp and Smart
is a chance of charts of upsetting him in this race.
I think he's at seventy one to one.

Speaker 17 (01:09:12):
Or something to her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I just want to go into the interview like knowledge
by I go, I reckon he's sharp and smart, and
my friend Guy tells me that sharp and smart's a
pretty reasonable chance. Is she going to go? Whose Guy?
Because I don't want to embarrass myself.

Speaker 10 (01:09:25):
Yeah, she probably will? Okay, well maybe, but I genuinely
think he is, like he's as good as those horses
that are that are shorter in the market. And if
he can race up to his potential, which he probably
hasn't quite done for a while in terms of his
absolute best, but if he can do that, he can
win the Melbourne Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Did you watch the football step.

Speaker 18 (01:09:47):
I watched chunks of it. Yeah, I thought it was
I thought it was great. I thought the atmosphere was good.
I was speaking a bit more closer to a sellout.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Yeah, I was disappointed. I raised that on Friday. If
something's not right about football in this country. If you
if you get a local derby and that in all
the fizz that comes with a professional era with you know,
first time it's ever happened in the camp, if you
can't sell thirty thousand tickets, there's something wrong anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Awkland look of Vasley superior team.

Speaker 18 (01:10:15):
Yeah, they've got some good players in there. They're obviously
well coached, well managed. I think the game does the
The next local derby's only in a few weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
In Auckland that will sell out, Yeah, I hope so.

Speaker 18 (01:10:27):
Smaller venue but and bigger population obviously, but that will
a lot of interest in Orkland and this football team.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Did you see the f one this morning?

Speaker 18 (01:10:35):
I have seen little bits of achieve max for staffing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Wow, that is the I think that's probably the drive
of I was going to say the year, certainly the year,
if not the decade, to come from where he was
at seventeenth in those conditions and do what he did
ingin to be fair and the hens is pul do.
But you take nothing away from him.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Of course, yeah, of course, because didn't have the day. Yeah,
he's home free and the drivers, but the constructors is
the problem. Tell me there were four red bull drivers
out there today. One of them didn't score a point.
Who's the one who didn't score a point? Exactly? Yeah, exactly, guy.
Quick update on Melbourne?

Speaker 10 (01:11:17):
What about it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Mood vibe? Homeless people, left leaning, people in doc Martins
with pink hair, what's the vibe?

Speaker 10 (01:11:26):
I haven't seen any homeless people yet. Actually, I mean
to say, I did see Brinda McCullum on the flight
over and we did talk about the cricket and he
was absolutely blown away by what the black Cat's doing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
So I thought, I just did he come back and
see you in economy or did he come up to
see you in business? What happened there?

Speaker 10 (01:11:42):
I don't think there was ex.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Did you ask for another free upgrade? You realize there's
a big scandal in Australia about free upgrades? Did you
ask for a free upgrade?

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Did they say something like you're so small they won't
even notice you in business. Have that seat there?

Speaker 10 (01:11:58):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Dear Idea, listen, are you going to the cup tomorrow yourself?
And what are you wearing?

Speaker 10 (01:12:07):
Yes, I am, I've got my navy suits. Going to
go out and buy a new tie, I think, and
finish the ensemble.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Okay? Is that still your wedding suit?

Speaker 10 (01:12:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
No, until go back?

Speaker 10 (01:12:24):
Are you in the of mine? The Hosking alw suit
of my e was that buy now playloaders, So you'll
be asking if it's from Pumpkin.

Speaker 14 (01:12:36):
Are you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Very good?

Speaker 14 (01:12:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
A good time you guys, will see you next week.
Andrew and Guy felt he said it.

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minute sports segment Monday morning. It goes too fast, not
enough time, Coryers and Pequette listening to us this morning.
It's very early hours of perket this morning. Or are
you just coming home from the clubs, Mike, there were
twenty six and a half thousand people at the football.
It was the biggest regular season crowd the Phoenix. Have
your head, Well, it doesn't make any point. So what

(01:13:57):
just means you haven't had big enough crowds? Local Derby
thirty five thousand? Pack it out for goodness sake, tell
you what I did to find really uplifting about the
football were the drone shots of the stadium panning out
to the harbor on a beautiful Wellington day. Aerially speaking,
when you can't see Tory, a council, a burst pipe

(01:14:17):
or an idiot bureaucrat, Wellington is a sensational looking place.

Speaker 16 (01:14:22):
Did you see chains and fairies moving in the right place?

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
I saw a ship parked and it wasn't smashed into
the dock. It seemed to be directly aligned with where
it was supposed to be. I thought, oh my hold on,
there's somebody there that knows how to partnership. I've got
some new polling. This is more of the New York
Times seeing a poll interesting, where the new voters, the
late breakers are going. Then we'll get across the Tasman
two see price in Australia. This monder morning on the

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going to do plus on mines three and a half percent.
So I gave you those numbers earlier. On the swing states,
very very tight everywhere. If there's anyone leading of the
seven swings, she's leading in five, and there's a couple tied.
Basically Trump lead to one. I think it was Arizona

(01:15:22):
from memory, but then the new one among voters who've
decided in the last few weeks. This is the growing
trend you'll hear in the next twenty four hours. And
this is why it will get slightly angsty because some
camps will say, well, that's you know, this is just
hype and noise. Other camps say, well, I told you so,
there's a move on. They're breaking to Harris. So in
other words, you can read what you want into the
number of people who voted early, and it's up around

(01:15:44):
seventy million people. How many of those are early versus
the total number it'll be you know, someone will win
with sixty million votes, sixty something million votes, and somebody
will lose with about some sixty something million votes if
it's close. But of the late breakers, it's women, it's
older people, and they're going to Harris and the poll
this morning says of those who have decided in the

(01:16:04):
last few weeks, so the question slightly vague the last
few weeks fifty five forty four to Harris twenty two
to nine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business as the.

Speaker 10 (01:16:20):
Jableman, we go three part very good money to you,
good Aden.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Now we the pole we got a bit hard to
believe that Albaneze has seen is incompetent. Where on earth
did that come from?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Well, it is an unusual pole. It's not the normal
news pole, so we've got to make that very clear.
But it's published in Australia this morning. It's not great
for Peter Dutton either, I should point out. But this
new pole says the Prime Minister has seen is incompetent
and useless, while for Peter Dutton he's seen is untrustworthy
and bad. So it's not great for either leader. But

(01:16:51):
the Prime Minister's had the week from hell. Last week
we spoke about the upgrade issue. Of course that is
still bugging. We can't believe it. He went to Adelaide
yesterday and I'll mentioned what he did with the UNI
debt at the moment he had an dooring crowd. They
were cheering for him.

Speaker 10 (01:17:08):
But in the wider public, this whole.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Thing about getting airline upgrades for ministers and the Prime
Minister in particular, is going to dog him all the
way to the election, I think.

Speaker 10 (01:17:18):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:17:19):
We learned yesterday that one of his senior colleagues, Jason Claire,
very much a supporter of Prime Minister Albneasy, he suddenly,
after eight days miraculous you remember, oh yeah, okay, yes,
I got an upgrade on a flight on Connis between
Sydney and Singapore. It was all the way back in
twenty nineteen, that's not that long ago. And he said

(01:17:40):
he actually asked for it. He picked up a phone
and rang somebody. He can't remember who he rang, of course,
as if you wouldn't remember. He said he'd had surgery
on his leg for some sort of melanoma or something,
had it cut out. His family were already traveling, and
so he rang Desploke in Connis and said can I
get an upgrade? And they gave it. I mean, the

(01:18:01):
public just look at that and go, these guys are
just done.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
It wrought exactly and that's the problem. He's opened up.
First of all, he cocked it up by taking so
long to deny it all if in fact he has
been able to deny it in the way that people believe.
But you've now got this can of worms of every
politician and you know they're going to have to cough detail,
aren't they correct?

Speaker 4 (01:18:22):
And interestingly, the Australian sent questions to all of the
Tiel independence These are the independent MPs who've got elected
at last election on making Parliament a better place, all
very much about honesty and transparency. None of them would
respond to any questions about air line upgrade.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Interesting the debt you mentioned we did it here. When
I say we, the Labor government did it a number
of years ago. They suspended interest on the debt and
that got them an election. Biden's busy for giving debt
left right and see that that doesn't appear to have
worked for him necessarily. But this is just a blatant
I need something for Australians to feel better about me
type policy isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:19:00):
Pretty much here. What they're what he announced in Adelaide
yesterday was anyone with a student debt will get a
twenty percent discount on their loans which will wipe out
around sixteen billion. Well, wipe out's a good phrase because
the government's got to find sixteen billion to wipe that
debt out. So you're taking taxpayers money and handing it

(01:19:21):
from one one pot to another pot. Really, but it
is a chase for the younger vote. Well, the younger
vote's probably already there, although it might pull some people
away from the Greens. To give you an example, an
average university student debt with an average twenty seven six
hundred in debt, we'll have five hundred and twenty dollars
wiped off their hex debt. Interestingly, I mean, this is

(01:19:45):
a disgraceful thing for a father to admit. I rang
my eldest daughter, who did a law degree at A
and U. Took five years. She's now got a very
well paid job working for one of the big accounting services,
nin house lawyer. She's got a sixty five thousand dollars
hex debt.

Speaker 14 (01:20:00):
I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
What's her old man, what's her argument for not having
paid it off?

Speaker 4 (01:20:07):
Well, she started to pay it off, But I mean,
you don't pay it off until you get to a
certain salary. That's the other thing. He changed yesterday. You
don't start praying it until you get over sixty seven
thousand dollars. But how the hell is she ever going
to pay that off? I mean, I'll put my hand
up here. I know you can't see me, but I'm
putting my hand up. Who do you think is going
to pay that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Yeah? Exactly, I'm going through the same thing at the moment.
I don't know what to do. Give give me some advice.
What do you do with kids in debt? Do you
do if you can? And we might well be in
lucky positions if you can, do you or not?

Speaker 4 (01:20:36):
We're in very lucky positions. Yet, well, well I think
you do, because I mean, how are they ever going
to get into the housing market, Because if you've get
a heckstead, the bank looks at that and says, we're
not going to lend you enough money that you want
to buy that house or unital flat or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
And do you vary it based on you go, well,
they've got an arts degree, or they got a law degree,
or they are a doctor or there or whatever. You know,
therefore you'll be earning millions versus fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
You're a father just.

Speaker 14 (01:21:01):
Pay the debt.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
This is true. By the way, if you have a
holiday tomorrow, do you take Monday off?

Speaker 4 (01:21:10):
Oh? Everyone is? I mean you know I live outside
of Melbourne. The town's packed with people. No one's working tomorrow,
no one's working today. I should say, everyone's taking a
four day week. You speak of the Melbourne Cup of books. Now,
I always give you five horses for a box trifector.
We've done this every year. So here we go. Everybody ready.

(01:21:31):
A horse called vol Van which is at seven dollars
at the moment, Bukaroo which is at five dollars fifty.
You've got a horse called Zardozi which is at nineteen
dollars an absurd ending in a knee eleven dollars. And
I've thrown in a Hosking special. This is just for
you to top it up. Okay, smooth, smooth operator, which

(01:21:56):
is what you are, of course, one smooth operator. I
should say. It's all one word, one smooth operated brackets Tsking.
That's your box trifector.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
And that that's going to pay me enough not to
do the show anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:22:07):
Or it's going to pay you enough to pay off
your pick step.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
That's all. It's going to do all right, mate, We'll
see you on a US election day on Wednesday. Look
forward to your company, Steve Price, where we might it is.
I'll come back and tell you about this other story
in the moment. Sixteen minutes away from there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Just to update you on a bubbling story that may
well explode into something. This goes back to Dan Andrews
and I didn't have time to talk about it with Steve,
but maybe another day. But because there was a leaked
phone call over the weekend at Triple zero, which is
an emergency call. This goes back to twenty thirteen and
a cyclist was seriously injured in an accident with Dan

(01:22:49):
Andrews's wife and three kids. Andrews and his wife and
three kids were in a car cyclist obviously on a bike.
Andrews has always argued that they weren't moving, they had
stopped bike t bone the car. Now, a couple of
things happened. The emergency service has never breath tested missus Andrews,
who was driving at the time, and she also gave

(01:23:10):
her maiden name, not her married name. So a couple
of questions around that. And you might remember last time
we talked about it with Murray Olds, a former he
was a former police prosecutor I think, if not a
deputy police commissioner, went and did a report on behalf
of lawyers. This guy on the bike is suing on
behalf of the lawyers. Went did a report and said

(01:23:30):
the whole thing's a cluster. It was appallingly handled and
there are far more questions than there are answers now.
Over the weekend a triple zero call was leaked in
which Andrews was on the phone claiming they had hit somebody.
Not the bike had driven into the side of his car,
but they had hit somebody. They had collided with a cyclist.

(01:23:53):
He was Opposition leader at the time. It was an suv.
He has always maintained his wife, who was driving, came
to complete stop when this guy Mulman t bone. Therefore territory.
The call leaked to The Herald's son. He's heard telling
the operator we hit him. We've turned right into Ridley
Street and the kids come flying through on the bike

(01:24:16):
path and we've hit him. There's a second call that's
also been leaked triple zero, where the caller says, we
know not who the person is. The caller says the
bike the cyclist has been run over, indicating once again
the car is moving. So we now have one report
from Andrews himself suggesting we've hit him, and a second

(01:24:37):
caller who seems to have seen the accident saying the
car ran the cyclist over. And we've got the report
that says missus Andrews was never breath tested, and let's
just bury this and forget about it. So that's twelve
years on and she's bubbling away.

Speaker 16 (01:24:52):
This sounds like a case for Cleaver Green, very very Rake.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
And if you're looking for an old chair, by the way,
just before I forget Rakers, I always recommend Rake. I
got to the end of what was the program? I
was the Jilly Cooper book that's got ribles. It's got
some real buzz around the place at the moment. It'll
be one of those things you either love or hate.
Very camp, very overacted. A lot of bonking going on,
as the British would say, in Jilly Cooper's style, but

(01:25:18):
quite good. And it's got so much buzz. It's made
by Disney, which in and of itself is kind of
what are they doing with that? But it's got a
good vibe about it. And now we get to the
part where he may be dead or he may not
be and depending on whether you've read the book, means
you'll know the answer to that. And it's only halfway
through the book. So therefore, if they get a second season,

(01:25:38):
that will complete the book. But it's well worth it.

Speaker 16 (01:25:41):
If you're thinking nothing, ask just for the Disney style bonking.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Well, no, it's not Disney style bonking. It's very Undisney
style bonking.

Speaker 16 (01:25:48):
It's like Disney style bonking I'm picturing there's a lot
of muppets involved.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
There's no muppets. There's not even a Disney character in sight.
But it's it's quite fun, is what I'm trying to say.
And as always with budgets, well shot nine minutes away
from them on.

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(01:27:10):
past season one, and I don't even think I tried
much through season one. It had a vibe about it
and I thought, yeah, it could be good. Lost me.
Mike could be the biggest attraction of Red Bull of
Lawson as he doesn't be in the car. Very good point.
I watched Franco colo Pinto, who's hot stuff at the moment,
and he's probably going to replace Lawson when Lawson replaces Careers.

(01:27:30):
But colo Pinto was literally driving an eighty k's in
a straight line under a yellow slid out, smacked a
wall and bent the car. And you can't go around
doing that because it's quite expensive to fix cars. And
Lawson drove brilliantly today and didn't touch the sides at all,
got tipped by a pstre but only spun around and was,
you know, across the finish line of ninth. It's five
minutes away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
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Speaker 3 (01:27:55):
Year round, Trump's and Pennsylvania. You saw the Cheney comments
over the weekend and people got a bit exercised about that.
So in Pennsylvania was talking about being behind a lot
of glass. And for a bloke who says the Dems
encouraged assassins to have a Godum, here's what he said today.

Speaker 7 (01:28:11):
And I have this piece of glass here, but all
we have really over here is the fake news man.
And to get me, somebody would have to shoot through
the fake news.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
And I don't mind that so much.

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
I don't mind. I don't mind that.

Speaker 7 (01:28:40):
So I have a piece of glass here, And the
problem with that glass is it's I don't look great
on television when you have a four inch piece of
glass that Howartzer.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Can't go through.

Speaker 3 (01:28:51):
Now, I have a listen to the sea. If you
can work at what he's talking about.

Speaker 7 (01:28:54):
That was the most brilliant speech. Are saying, it's a weave.
You go and then you're here, and then what happens
is while you're here, there's a point having to do
with that point, and you going we then you come here,
then you do another weave. He and it's very complex,
but then it gets very simple because it all comes

(01:29:15):
brilliantly and beautifully together and they actually acknowledge this total
genius there. They don't, not all of them do. Most
of them are failed writers. They're not even good writers.

Speaker 3 (01:29:26):
What he was trying to talk about was sitting up
the different glass panes. But no one can work out
that he was trying to say that. So they went
to the campaign and they said, once you're talking about
and they said, he's sitting up the glass panes. It's
it's sometimes it's just so genius you don't even realize
that it's genius.

Speaker 16 (01:29:40):
Genius.

Speaker 10 (01:29:41):
That's right.

Speaker 16 (01:29:42):
I'm just trying to figure out what the word was
for us, and that's what he had us believe. That
is us.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
Back tomorrow morning from six as always Happy Days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
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