Full Show Podcast: 05 December 2025

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 5th of December, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon joined Mike to wrap the year before he takes off on holiday. 

They also exchanged gifts, and both of them were hugely impressed with each other's loot. 

And for the final time of the year, Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson Wrapped the Week, talking about the gift exchange and Mike's reaction.   

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:12):
Horny and Welcome today. The Education Minister on the Teacher's Deal,
the Prime Minister to hand over some gifts for the season,
change coming to retirement village rules to mccati rap the
Week of Course, Richard Arnold and America Murray Olds does
the bizz out of Australia Pasky. Welcome to the day,
seven past six, so the first of season Christmas of
twenty five. The New Zealand retail experience, as summed up
by a frustrated Katherine Hawksby as of yesterday so half

(00:36):
a dozen shops visited. One, she reports, was decent, the
rest were useless, useless for a variety of reasons, but
the common theme service or lack of it. How is
it possible, continually possible, that we have one a sector
crying out for supporting, yet so unable to offer something
worth spending money on, and two a country with a
lot of people allegedly happy to go find a job,

(00:57):
and yet the people with the jobs are so far
fantastically incompetent. We all know the story. The story is
not unique to Caty Yesterday, on the early burst of
Christmas shopping, retail tragically is filled with hopelessness, lack of stock,
lack of desire, lack of professionalism, Which is why the
good ones are so welcome, and why I've been able
to tell you many times over this past year. I
can name you a decent number of operators in a

(01:19):
variety of fields that have weathered these past few years
with no real issues at all. They are good at
what they do, they want to do well, word of
mouth and reputation travels far and fast, and they are fine,
thank you very much. Yesterday's highlight was a liquor shop,
a large one part of a chain, a chain you
will know. The woman behind the counter is slovenly, full
of tattoos on the phone, no interest in service or

(01:41):
acknowledging a customer when asked, because she didn't offer any help.
She didn't, as it turns out, know what prosecco was.
How can you work in a shop that sells nothing
but wine and spirits and not know what prosecco is
or where in the shop. Indeed, you will find it.
Who employed her and why? And why was there no training?
This is a big brander, a brand I would have

(02:01):
thought would be interested in reputation and a decent customer experience.
How does a person with clearly no knowledge or interest
in the thing they are selling actually get work? And
are you telling me the people who can't get work
are even worse than that? The resentment Kate fumed is
based on the idea that we all work hard for
the dollars. Handing them over would be easier and nicer

(02:22):
and more fulfilling if you thought the recipient, just for
a moment, was even slightly grateful.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
News of the world in ninety seconds, the.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
War and the attempt to end it, well, that seems
a bit stuck. The Ukrainians heading to Florida for more
talks the Russia. Things went nowhere, obviously, which is frustrating.
The Trump stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
I think it'd like to get back to dealing a
more normal life.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think it'd like to be trading.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
With the United States of America frankly, instead of losing
thousands of soldiers a week.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
But their impression was very strongly than it'd like.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
To make a deal. No semi related matters in Britain.
Are reporters out this morning on the story poisoning you
remember this twenty eighteen Nbuschok.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
The conduct of Petrov and Bosherros and their gius superiors
and those to authorize the mission up to and including,
as I've found President Putin, that conduct was astonishingly reckless.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Even after that. Are the Russians still busy in the UK?

Speaker 7 (03:21):
Six men involved in an arson attack on a warehouse
supplying Ukraine, an individual who attempted to offer services to
Russian intelligence and a former NEP who accepted bribes.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Other British matters, they've launched a review under the way
they handle mental health ADHD and autism.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
Given the media coverage that it's got today. In framing it,
we're concerned that it's just going to keep perpetuating this
idea that get a diagnosis too easily, and that's not
the case. It takes a long process and lots of
text few and they're able to get onto a waiting listener.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
And the Nigel Faraj is the erasist script rolls on.
So Nigel's worked up some new material by way of
a defense.

Speaker 9 (04:00):
The BBC we're very happy to use blackface. Oh, and
not just in the black and white minstrels. You did
it in it ate half hot Mum as well. And
what about half garnet?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, what about Alf Garner? Back in America, the black
who relligidly ordered the second hit on the Narco boat
is up for a few questions on the hill today,
the Dems, they are ready. Why I hear the truth?
One strike? Two strikes, three strikes?

Speaker 10 (04:27):
How many people in the water?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
How does striking if it was just two individuals in.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
The water that were struggling for their lives, what was
the validation?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Finally, forget a lecture and Google and Spotify. The color
of the year is outs and waiting for this one.
This one the Canton Color Institute, of course, it's called
I like this one. I think they've gone really well
with See it's called cloud Dancer. It's a shade of white.
They describe it as a billowy, balanced white, imbued with
a feeling of serenity. And you can argue with it.

(04:58):
Years of the world of Yeah talks and Flora Whitcop's
gone from Russia to Florida. I have to talk to
the Ukrainians. I don't know what for What are you
talking about when the Russians won't do business? Speaking of
the Russians, where's Putin this morning? And Putin's dealing with Mody?
He's in India. Does it surprise you a man who's
banned from traveling outside his country travels outside his country
so often these days? Something's not right about this. Twelve
minutes past six, The.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
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Speaker 3 (05:29):
My great opinion piece, great insight and decayed your high standards.
Try not to pess her off over the holidays. You
might be turned to ash. That's not a bad point, Mike.
Try going to the Auckland Council West Wave. Jim had
to take my own batteries and tools to change the
batteries on the spin bike. Staff could not find batteries
and change them for over a week. It's a good story.
Fifteen minutes past six, Right from Sure and Partners Andrew

(05:51):
Keller her, good morning, Very good morning, Mike, right, oh
house prizes, talk to me? Are we on the move?
Is there a green shoot? Is there a flicker?

Speaker 11 (06:00):
No, it's but it's somehow appropriate that we're talking house
prices this morning, Mike, because it's almost the end of
the year. It's sort of been a key topical year,
hasn't it, As the residential property market just hasn't moved.
There's definitely more optimism around twenty twenty six. So what
better way to close out the week, Mike than a
little stroll down house price lane. And while commentators economists

(06:21):
like maybe pronouncing the arrival of the mercurial green shoots,
there actually isn't any evidence of flickers in the house
prices just yet.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, yesterday we had the release.

Speaker 11 (06:32):
Of one of the key metrics, this is the Totality
New Zealand Home Value Index for November, and we had
a flat outcome. In other words, the index did not move.
That's after a very modest zerup one percent lift in October.
The median house how home value index is seventeen point
four percent below the early twenty twenty two peak. And

(06:54):
I just think, Mike, this is one of the things.
I don't think we're talking about this enough. I think
this psychological impact of the fall in the residential property market.
This is a one point six trillion dollar asset class.
I think the psychological impact of this fall is one
of the things that's actually holding us back, but we
don't have enough time to go into.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
That this morning.

Speaker 11 (07:13):
Is it's only recovered one point one percent from the
trough in June twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
I look across the main centers.

Speaker 11 (07:19):
Auckland down two point two percent year on year, told
On up one point two percent, and of course christ
Jurg up two point six percent year on year.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
So Mike I did.

Speaker 11 (07:29):
I trolled through the numbers and I tried to find
something uplifting. And of the main centers here you go,
four out of six have improved in the last three months,
so there is short term positive momentum. That's pretty good.
Regional areas have fared better or somewhat better. In Vericago's
at three point nine percent in the last twelve months.

(07:49):
So to try and finish on a high bank, there
are actually four areas in New Zealand that are at
a new peak, so they higher than they have ever
been before. I'm I'm going to list them for you now, Gore, Ashburton,
co Korda and Invercargyl. So that's the place to be
in terms of house price rise. They are at all

(08:10):
time high price rises. From here are likely to be controlled,
not crazy, I think was the.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
First indeed, And what about the supply side of that
equation and what we're building.

Speaker 11 (08:20):
Yeah, so on the same theme, I guess Satsu Zealand
to release Q three building work put in place, so
we can see a sort of a nascent trend starting
in the building consents, so lifting confidence seems to be
reflected and lifting multi unit projects. What about the other
end of the construction process, actual building, Well, it does
look a little healthier if you presume that the rate
of decline has slowed on a year and year basis.

(08:42):
So yeah, there is a flickering green shoot here. Q
three building activity rebounded. Total construction lifted one point five percent.
The previous quarter it fell two point four so it's
rebounded from there. That one point five percent lift was
higher than expectations. To dig into the detail, residential building
work plus two point eight percent, so that's pretty good.
The previous quarter that had fallen three point three. Non

(09:04):
residential work though, fell one point three percent, so there
is a bit of a divergency and non residential not
doing as well as residential, so the result was a
bit stronger than expected. It's yet another data point that
suggests stabilization. So nothing's taking off, but stabilization is good.
So this is tending to support some of these Q
three GDP estimates. We starting to see a few forecasts

(09:28):
coming out of the water work now. I think was
one yesterday zero point four percent for Q three. I've
seen some others which are closer, you know, a bit
higher than that, closer to one percent for the quarter.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
But before we start a.

Speaker 11 (09:38):
Big chier building work put in place, still below where
it was last year, and probably twenty percent below mid
twenty twenty two peaks.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
That's a lot of.

Speaker 11 (09:46):
Value, I think again, we just have to be realistic
about the degree of rebound that we will see here.
To need more houses, you need more population, and population
growth is quite.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Modest at the moment.

Speaker 11 (09:59):
But to another one of these indicators, I'd say, Mike,
it will get better in twenty twenty six, which is
a pretty common refrain at the moment, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I think? So, what are the numbers at the moment?

Speaker 11 (10:09):
The Dow Jones is down seventy one points point one
five percent forty seven eight hundred and eleven. The S
and P five hundred is up five points six eight
five to four the mark there. That's a point zero
point zero eight percent gain. The nasaq is up thirty
seven points twenty three thousand, four hundred and ninety overnight,
the foot two one hundred game nineteen points nine seven
one oh the nick A five to one oh two

(10:32):
eight up to two.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Point three three percent.

Speaker 11 (10:34):
Storming day, you say over one thousand point game, shang
Ho COM's it down two points three eight seven five,
the A six two hundred eighty six one eight up
twenty three points, and the ins of the next fifty
down small you set down about half percent KIW dollar
point five seven seven four against the US point eight
seven twenty five against the Ossie point four ninety five

(10:54):
to euro point four three two four pounds eighty nine
point four to three Japanese yen goal four to one
six and break Crow sixty three dollars and forty.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
One sent fantastic, mate, You have a lovely holiday, lovely break,
and we'll catch up in twenty six. As always, I
appreciate all your expertise and brilliance that you bring to
the show every morning. It's been a rare pleasure.

Speaker 11 (11:14):
As ever, Mike and best of best wishes to you
for Christmas and New Year as well.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Go well, Andrew, callaherp sure and partners pasky if your
partner's part was a big part of his year. Of course,
in Vidia headline for the Ages. In Vidia has a
cash problem, too much of it. So at the end
of October they had sixty point six billion dollars in cash.
That is after they spent two billion in Synopsis, one
billion in Nokia, five billion and Intel, ten billion in

(11:41):
Anthropic and the one hundred billion in the open AI shares.

Speaker 10 (11:45):
I hate it. Don't just hate it when you go
too much money.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Unrealay, it's the theme of the year in many respects,
isn't it. Six twenty one and a half at news
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
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Speaker 3 (12:03):
Jeez, you're into this. It's New Zealand.

Speaker 12 (12:04):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
A lot of staff, no services, see, I don't know.
Is there a lot of stuff? I find there aren't
a lot of staff. Mike, ever, will earn break and
thanks for holding the people to account. Very nice of
you to say so. My increasingly the service you get
in retail these days is exactly what happens when mediocrity
becomes the standard. Why rush? Why care? Why go the
extra mile when you already paid a fat minimum wage
just for showing up Back in the day, you busted
your ass to stand out and un a promotion. Now

(12:26):
good enough is good enough?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Sex twenty five trending Now ms warehouse your home for
Christmas shopping Now the.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Bloke who will host the Super Bowl the halftime shot
at the end of the season is the world's most
played artist on Spotify. It is Bad Bunny listen to
more than nineteen point eight billion times. The rest of
the top five was as you would have predicted when

(12:55):
you have predicted at Taylor Swift obviously the weekend Drake
really Eilish. That's globally US and UK, Taylor Swift was
the most streamed. That means Bad Bunny and Swift have
now been the top spot between them for the past
six years. Most stream album globally Wasn't He Bad Bunnies
Debbie Terra mass Potus pollow by K Pop Demon Hunter's soundtrack. However,

(13:20):
in the US, the most streamed album was I'm Going
to Tell You Something About America not in taste in music,
but in cultural landscape. More than wallence, I'm the problem.
The most streamed song globally.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
Was even though this is the most streamed song in
the world, is this instantly recognizable?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It was Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga. The song that
was the most consistent over the top five, both globally
and in individual countries was this one. Look at you
taking me? What'd you name to? Alex Warren? Has he

(14:13):
done other song? So he did this? This is probably
all he needs to do.

Speaker 10 (14:17):
I didn't even know that was his name.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I told you if I'd done the pop quiz and
I said you know this song, and every one will go, yeah,
I know the song, and then you got who sang it?
You would have a scientist clue.

Speaker 10 (14:26):
Would you.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
My Spotify age was fifty five, by the way, Oh
well yeah, so you wouldn't have said that, would you.

Speaker 14 (14:32):
Unfortunately, my Spotify thing is completely corrupted by the fact
that you keep making me play country music all the time,
so my age comes out at about seventy two.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Luxein's was twenty seven. But I think he rigged it.
I think that's the political scandal of the year. Anyway,
he's with us after seven o'clock for the presents. What
we've got to deal with the teachers though, or some
of the teachers. That's good news. The Minister with us shortly.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
make the mic asking, breakfast with the defender, Embrace the
impossible news, TODs dead, be your old buggers.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I'm fifty two on the Spotify agent twenty one. Thank
you for that. Our New York Times are suing the
Pentagon this over the Hegseth things speak you Hegseth, the
blokey blames for the second attack, the admiral who's on
the hell as we speak. So we'll go to Richard
shortly meantime, at twenty three minutes away from seven. Nice
to be able to end the year on some more
educational news. In the classroom, of course, we're seeing tangible
improvements in areas like maths and literacy. Other unions have

(15:28):
been a bit of a problem, no, but part of
that at least is sort of this morning. A deal
cut with the secondary teaches four point six percent over
two years, along with sector and curriculum changes next year.
Erica Stanford is the education minister and is with us.
Good morning, Good morning mate. You're relieved.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm really pleased. I'm pleased for those teachers because I've
been working so hard to raise achievements and close the
equity gap. And from next year, you know, they'll see
pay rises and then again the following year and they
deserve that.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Did you move much in the end from where you started?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
We did a small amount. It's been really quite a
tough road with the unions this time around, and I
think you saw from Brian, Sir Brian Roach, you know,
the frustration over bargaining where we just didn't really have
any idea where the unions wanted to go because they
weren't particularly forthcoming with where they wanted to bargain, so
we were flying a bit blind. But I think in

(16:23):
the end that sort of resolved itself, and there was
quite good negotiations that happened towards the end where they
actually said, hey, this is what we're willing to negotiate on,
so we knew where we were going. So a good
resolution in the end, and I hope that the NZDI
will follow.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
So yeah, I was going to say, who's settled, who's left.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
So we've had in terms of secondary where I'm hoping,
fingers crossed, that will settle principles shortly. So obviously that
the teachers are done, I'm hoping the principles will follow.
With Primary. We have done a part of the principles.
The Primary Principles collect a bargaining union have settled. They
represent about six hundred of the principles, so that they

(17:02):
are settled, and so now we are looking at the
rest of the primary principles and primary teachers and so
well we're negotiating and good faith.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
How many unions are you dealing with here? I mean,
this is a cluster.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Well, she knows, it's quite good having a number of unions.
You know, the PPCBO, the primary they need a new name.
It's terrible PCBU. But they have been wonderful to deal with.
They settled early, they settled quickly, They were very good
to deal with. They put a number of things on
the table that they wanted, they were very clear. You know,
of course there's spans a Secondary Principles Association. They're also

(17:37):
very very good to deal with. So having different unions
outside of PPTA and NZDI is actually quite a good thing.
And we have got very good relationships with them.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
How much of this whole thing do you think, in
your heart of hearts, is about the fact they hate
you because you're conservatives.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Oh look, I couldn't say. You'll have to ask them,
that's certainly well, no, they probably won't. But look I'm
in it's pretty obvious that they, you know, are very
critical and whenever there is good news, like the fact
that every single primary intermediate is going to get a
learning support coordinator.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Deadly silent.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So you know, look, it is what it is. But
I'm actually not worried about them. All I care about
is making sure that our kids are doing really well
in school and all of the you know, the grief
I get from the unions, I tell you what, it
melts away in a second when I see the results
for our kids with reading, writing, and maths improving, because
that's what I'm here to do, and that's what I'll

(18:31):
continue to drive to do, regardless of what the unions say.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Good on you. What's your Spotify age?

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh god, I did it last night after I saw
the report, So it's forty nine and I'm not forty nine,
by the way, are you not?

Speaker 15 (18:43):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I'm closed, but I'm not. It's the problem is I
stopped listening to new music and about nineteen ninety nine,
and so that's aspire as I go.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
So what was your hot artist?

Speaker 2 (18:54):
It was the Goo Goo Dolls and then Green Day.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's good music. Listen, have merry Christmas.
Lovely dealing with you this year, and I'm sure we'll
deal with each other next year as well.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Thanks Mike, you enjoy your holidays.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Take care. Minister of Education Erica Stanford nineteen to two.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
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Speaker 3 (19:17):
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(19:39):
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(19:59):
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of course, but go Harvey Norman and shop today. Pasky
Moni Michael what I walked around five car dealers looking
to buy a new car. Not one person came out
to greet me and ask if they could help. This
was in the smallest town. I went to Auckland, went
to a dealer. Immediately the person comes out, greets me,

(20:20):
shows me the range of cars are traded in. My
existing Karen brought to ninety thousand dollars car. Those twats
who couldn't be bothered will never know More's the pity
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Speaker 1 (20:28):
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Speaker 3 (20:34):
Safe sided Richard Arnold, Good morning, good money, Make they
underway with the questions.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
They are these briefings by the Navy admiral who reportedly
gave the orders for the US military to fire on
those survivors of an attack with alleged drug boat that
they were targeting. So those briefings are taking place as
serious or classified sessions. But lord makers always make their
opinions known, and Democrat Jim Hymes on the House Intelligence
Committee came out a few moments ago saying this after

(21:01):
seeing some of the video, was.

Speaker 16 (21:02):
One of the most troubling things I've seen in my
time in public service. You have two individuals in clear
distress without any means of locomotion, with a destroyed vessel,
who were killed by.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
The United States.

Speaker 17 (21:19):
Any American who sees the video that I saw will
see the United States military attacking shipwrecked sailors. Bad guys,
bad guys, but attacking shipwrecked sailors.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
So that would be against the Geneva Conventions. On the
Republican side, there is division which has been interesting. Some
say the accounts they're hearing clear the Defense Secretary Pete
higgsys Others like Republican Senator Around Paul, say no, the
bug should stop with the Defense chief himself and not
with the Navy Admiral Frank Bradley, and the senator says
these military attacks on the alleged Venezuelan drug boats are

(21:54):
pretty dodgy in his view of the whole operation, says
Rand Paul.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
I frankly think it's illegal.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
As for the video of the twin attacks on the boat,
Trump suggests he would support the release of that material.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
I don't know what they have, but whatever they have
would certainly release, no problem.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
So is that simply talk or is it likely to happen?
The administration accounts of all this have been shifting around
a lot. The admiral reportedly is denying there was a
kill all order given by higgsas the Defense secret He
says he did not see survivors after the first strike.
He says, quote, the thing was on fire, exploded in
fire and smoke. You can't see it now. The Pentagon
is suggesting that the two survivors were trying to continue

(22:33):
their drug run, and maybe we're attempting to salvage drugs
or to radio in for backup.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Can both be true?

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Any of the boat mostly blown to pieces, and still
argue the operation was continuing. A Democratic Senator Cory Booker
is calling for a full and open inquiry.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
You need to do this investigation now. The facts to
me that I'm hearing are not satisfactory.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Well, this incident is playing out as Pentagon Watchdog has
found that heggs Seth put military personnel at risk when
he used that open chat app signal to send info
about an attack on hoodies and Yemen back in March.
Heigsays shared information that was classified with people, including his
wife and a reporter who was sitting in a supermarket
parking lot when he was advised of the pending US attack.

(23:15):
Heg Seth says this review clears him, but he refused
to take part in interviews for the investigation and instead
claimed he has the power to declassified material mentally, the
same thing that Trump argues. So even before he realized
he was telling people outside the Pentagon, but what, when
and where of the attack, he mentally declassified that same
information doesn't make much sense.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Speaking of heigsays, So they're pleading the New York are
going to try the first and the fifth Amendment. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
New York Times has gone to court over this, accusing
the Pentagon of violating their constitutional rights by imposing there's
limits on what can be reported out of that building.
Times claims the new Pentagon restrictions ignore the Constitution when
it comes to free speech, restricts journalist's ability to do
what journos always have done, and challenged public statements. Back
in September, of course, the Pentagon called on reporters to

(24:03):
sign a twenty one page form where they would agree
to potential punishments for gathering any info that was not
approved officially. The Pentagon then stripped several media outlets of
their workspaces in the place, offering them instead to pro
Trump outlets. They also expanded limits on where reporters can
move around the Pentagon building. This follows the Trump exclusion

(24:24):
of the Associated Press from the Waine House Paul after
the AP failed to follow the Trump call to rename
the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
You have a good holiday season, Richard will catch up
in twenty six. Appreciate your if it's in your energy
every morning. Richard Arnold stateside for US. Michael Jordan, by
the way, has also got the lawyers out at the moment.
He'sursuing NASCAR, of which he's a part. Of course, he
claims they're an illegal monopoly Front Row Motor Sports is

(24:54):
involved illegally making hundreds of millions of dollars by stifling opportunity.
That the cars are repaired and they profit from the
repairs and the parts brought by NASCAR licensed suppliers. That
NASCAR has too much control over all aspects of the
racing series, rules and regulations required. Monopolistic exclusive clauses owns
most of the race tracks in the schedule, making it

(25:17):
hard for competitors to emerge. So we'll see where that
goes legally. Ten minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Sin the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Newstalgs.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
The'd be Mike, have just had the most amazing experience
while shopping and Havelock North and Nap. You are courteous,
knowledgeable and helpful. Loved it can't argue with that, Mike.
Thank you for such an excellent show you make morning
radio with listening to you. Very kind to say that, Mike.
We've noticed an increase in activity over the last month.
We are tendering again and feeling confident things are looking
up for the construction sector next time, for this time
next year, and to hire staff before they're all gone. Craig.

(25:49):
Good to hear that message, Mike, Merry Christmas the Crossing Taronga.
Last weekend, every store we went to for Christmas, my
daughter and I were served immediately, happy, chatty staff as
in and upgrades, except for Pandora. I don't know what
happened at Pandora. I noticed staff who were engaging with
customers and not on their phones. With the busy shops
ban phones well and don't need to band stuff just

(26:10):
I mean, it's not It's been my sort of messaging.
You don't have to. It's not hard to be good.
It's like if you go, if you turn up to work,
it's not really hard to concentrate, to do well, to
be professional, to want to be better. How hard can
it be? Tell you what I'll tell you if I
don't know if I'm going to tell you the story,
but I might. But there was an auction I can
tell you about yesterday that gives you a very very

(26:32):
real indication that the housing market, it's certain, at least
in a certain part of the housing market, is back
in a very very big way. Five minutes away from seven,
all the ins.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
And the outs. It's the fizz with business favor take
your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Now, last night they had the Deloitte Top two hundred Awards.
This is Business. The theme of the night was celebrating
those who moved New Zealand forward. A Company of the
Year went to rocket Lab, which I guess is not
surprising in the sense that they've had a they've had
a blowout year. They're now worth thirty six point four billion.
They're leading the way globally for next gen neutron rockets.
So good on them. Peterbeck's story is good in his

(27:10):
book This Year. Read that he was on the show
a couple of weeks ago. He's always got some wonderful advice.

Speaker 12 (27:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Basically it's dream big. Got a planned dream big. So
the yes guy. Sophie Maloney, so well done to her.
She's had a very very good year. Delivered what they
call the spring of transformative deals for sky TV. She
survived the satellite issues, yes remember that that was a mess,
acquired three and three now for a dollar that was
probably the bargain of the year. Got a five year
rugby deal across the line, and got the Olympic broadcasting

(27:38):
right through until twenty thirty two. She might if I
could just have one small moment she might want to
investigate the concept of when you ring them dealing with
somebody one in the country and two who wants to
be just a little bit helpful in terms of paying
your bill. Otherwise we're not going to pay our bill.

(27:58):
The other finalist, Fontier, is Miles, who I would have
thought would have been a hot contender given what they've
been up to in Zero's Sekinder sing Cassidy a chief
financial officer David Muscati's from A two A two's got
a good story to tell, of course, a bit of
a turnaround story, a bit of a comeback story. Chairperson
of the Epedemicbride of Fontira. So I mean it was
it had that peedemcbride, Miles hurrale vibe about it, didn't

(28:18):
it If Miles was gonna when Peter wasn't Vispersa anyway,
I think McBride's won before. I mean the Fontira story.
You just cannot underestimate the value to the economy that
they produced in the last year, although interesting next year
given what's happened to the auctions. At the moment, best
growth strategy was Fisher and pikeel the Young Executive of
the Year was Kate Boyer who works with the New Zealand.

(28:40):
She's the GM of the Airports and she got the
role at the age of thirty, so well done to
her and everyone who was a finalist and a winner.
And I hope last night they didn't say everybody's a winner,
because that simply isn't true and that might be one
of the issues with this country. Everyone is not a
winner and that's what segregates and separates out the winners
from the people who are not winners. Christopher Luxon, We've

(29:03):
got some presents to exchange and a little bit of
the old end of the year chitty chat. Still business
in running the country. The retirement village rules are changing,
so we'll work you through that. Tim and Katie to
do the week out for Late as Web on the
mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Credible, compelling, the breakfast show you can't bess. It's the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate
differently since nineteen seventy three. News Togsdad been.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Mollie welcome seven past seven, So given it's the time
of the year, Liz, welcome back. The Prime Minister for
one last time for the best of season. Christopher Luxon,
good to be with you, Michael, good to be with you. Now,
I told you when he came in. You've made see
an end this morning for turning up, for turning up
at Ikea. Do you regret that?

Speaker 12 (29:49):
Man?

Speaker 18 (29:50):
Now, I'm actually I know, I know how much you
love the store yourself and will be probably a regular
shopper with friends and family discounts or whatever you get going.
But but no, like, I mean, I'm really proud of that, actually,
because you know, I've lived around the world and most
big cities have an Ikea, and it's pretty awesome that
they've come to New Zealand and made the investment, gone
through a rather torturous resource management process, I suspect, and

(30:11):
ended up with a store being delivered, and same with Costco.
Good to see Costco going into Drury as well. So
I think that just good science. You know, we used
to go overseas and see all these cool places and
wonder why can't we have that here.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
We've got it here now, good investment in as non
political way as you're capable of. How would you sum
up your year?

Speaker 18 (30:32):
Oh A challenging Yeah, challenging year, but also encouraging. I
think no doubt about it. You know, we know we've
been hearing it at a miss. We've had to deal with
a big recession, We've had to deal with big COVID hangover,
Trump coming in with a tariff's thing, causing massive uncertainty
globally on trad It's been a challenge, but I actually
think we end the year Actually we knew primary industries
going great, that's been really good. But actually we're seeing

(30:54):
really good science, you know, of the turnaround coming through.

Speaker 12 (30:57):
Now.

Speaker 18 (30:57):
The challenge is, yeah, we've got to continue to fix
a lot of base. I felt like I spent most
of my two years frankly, just sorting stuff out that
you just everything you pack up. You realize there sort
of a bit busted and broken, and we've had to
sort it out and deal with it. But then a
lot of it is now right. We know we're going
to recover. So the question is, well, how do we
down well realize all the potential. It's in the joint
and that means, yeah, we are going to do RMA reform,

(31:18):
Yes we are going to do educational reform. Yes, we've
got to really step up trade and investment. So I think,
you know, no doubt about a hard year, you know,
as you'd expect, but it's a turnaround job that we're
doing here.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's not happened to the year, do you think, because
it started with the concept that things were coming right
and yet broadly they didn't.

Speaker 12 (31:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (31:36):
I think to think what really happened was we had
a very good back end to last year. If you remember,
we started having a good back end, we had a
very good first quarter, and then literally on the second
of April, we hit the tariffs and that put a GDP. Basically,
investors stopped spending, consumer confidence goes through the floor, partly
because of just the lack of clarity and chaos that
was ensuing. That had a massive sentiment loop light less

(31:59):
be clear about you know, we were a negative GDP territory.
The economy contracted after having two quarters where it grew
that and you're in the middle of winter and everyone's going, well, actually,
what the hell is happening and when are we coming
out of this thing. The good news is we are
coming out of it. You can feel it, you can
see it, and actually even the media is now conceding
that it's starting to happen, which is, you know, on balance,
is a better thing than it has been. So there's

(32:20):
note about it that was very challenging. And you can
see that every time we have a negative GDP number,
people go, how much longer have.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
We got to deal with us?

Speaker 18 (32:27):
We've been through COVID, we've been through a recession and
high inflation, high interest rates.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
When does it get better?

Speaker 18 (32:33):
And for some people that are feeling that across the country,
they genuinely are as in South Island again last week.
I was in different parts of the country this week
where you can see the benefits of growth, But for
other folk, they can intellectually say, yeah, I get these
guys are doing it. I up wish they get there faster,
and I just wish, most importantly I'd feel the benefits
of it. Until people feel it, that's the thing that
you've got to see that transmission.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Do you have you personally found the year arduous?

Speaker 12 (32:57):
Now?

Speaker 3 (32:57):
I've enjoyed the year. I mean, even with all the
commentary and the polls and the noise and the lot.

Speaker 18 (33:03):
As I said before, I mean I sort of I
I came to politics because I just genuinely want this
country to realize it's potential.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't.

Speaker 18 (33:10):
I'm different. I'm not a career politician. I've come from
outside the system. I choose to do the job because
every day I do want to get the thing solved.
I like problem solving. I like actually the improvement. I
like turning things around. I like getting things sorted. That's
what I did in my business life. It's what I'm
trying to do in this role.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah. But it's going to wear you down though, because
you although you came from business, you weren't publicly accountable
to the extent that you are. It's a different job
as a politician. Yeah, you're right, And.

Speaker 18 (33:35):
I mean, you know, you wake up at four thirty
every day, seven days a week. You do probably twenty
hour days most days are to be honest, But if
you are very connected to mission and purpose, then you actually,
you know, you can wake up. You get hit with
the lead pipe most days. And you know, as I've
said to you before, you know you don't take offense
from those you don't take advice from.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
But it must wear you down. The only reason I'm
asking these questions is being in the public eye and
myself I've taken over the years like endless and it's
in certain times that it wears you down. Yeah, and
it must have an effect periodically.

Speaker 18 (34:06):
I mean, you know it's hard, you know, and you
know you're fighting it and you know you're taking on,
but you're trying to drive change, right, so you know
that there's going to be people that are Again, you know,
we haven't had the best run with media, I'll be
honest with you. We haven't had the best run with
other public service. You know, we're asking them to do
different things. But if you believe in doing change and
you believe it's worth doing and you've got to go
through it and get to the other side, then you

(34:29):
just keep going and you just have to do each day.
And you know, if you want to be good at something,
you've really got to make the sacrifice and you've got
to double down and get the job done. But I
also think at a personal level, might you know, you
might be the same. But if you've got like you know,
I've got a partner who is a partner, so I
mean we've been you know, we do this together. You've
got great family, great friends. I've got good you know
people I go to that I do respect and take

(34:50):
advice from so you know, you feel supported in the
process as hard as it actually is.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
But it is hard.

Speaker 18 (34:57):
I mean, you know, it's not like it's key in
two thousand eight, where you're sort of like doing a
bit of a realignment.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
No.

Speaker 18 (35:02):
No, we're doing a serious turnaround job and it's hard
because you're having to confront a bunch of things that
haven't have deteriorated or just dribbled away over over a
ten year period that need to be sorted.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Do you think you're a better Prime Minister this morning
than you were in January this year?

Speaker 12 (35:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (35:16):
I think you learn all the time in this job.
You know, you you come into it, it's an extreme job.
It's an extreme job. I mean, by the time things
are coming to you, they're quite hard and the difficult problems.
But I think you get better and better at it.
I think, you know, we've had to deal with I
have to deal with the fact that first and always
had to rebuild a national party that was at civil
war with each other. We did that in a twenty
month period and found a way to win. We then

(35:37):
had to build in a three party coalition, which requires
a huge amount of emotional intelligence, making all of that
kind of work in the background, and then importantly deal
with the massive turnaround for the country to get people
who've been in you know, you COVID with brutal recessions
being brutal. People are tired, they're fatigued, they're over it,
and you've got to get them on the result in

(35:58):
the upcoming we need to get to. So if you're
connected to the mission and purpose and what you're trying
to achieve, then you can sort of deal with all
the knockers along the way and all the hard stuff
that comes.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Who do you think will win the present exchange after
the break?

Speaker 18 (36:16):
I'm very hopeful, But I know you've been trashed talking
my potential gift and how much thought has hasn't gone
into it.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Well, no, it consumed me last night. I saw you
on the news that I here. Apparently I was on
seeing it in. Well you were seeing it in. But
last night on the news I saw I saw you
saying I've got a gift swap tomorrow.

Speaker 18 (36:32):
And I thought, I'm actually really confident in my exchange.
I've thought about this okay, and I think there's a
few a few layers to it.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
So oh interesting, Well, well, let's do this, Let's do
more of this. In a moment fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
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Speaker 3 (36:52):
News Talks seventeen minutes past seven final moments with the
Prime Minister. Now, this this gift just just for just
to clear it all up, from me to you, is
actually from all of us to you because it was
Sam's idea, so he needs credit for it, and it
was a brilliant He's a great young man, saying, stays
with you. It's the boss. I'm actually behind the scenes

(37:13):
like a really cool guy. So the boss poo pooed
the idea and said, no, we can do better. But
it turns out we couldn't. And I think we've got
to win it. We've got an absolute exactly now listen
to this. This is why we've given you.

Speaker 12 (37:25):
Pa.

Speaker 18 (37:27):
We sat down, I think we had dinner on our
on our laps, and I think we started watching There
was some Netflix, so we started getting into.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Stop eating dinner on your knee. It's not healthy. So
so eating dinner on your knee was the.

Speaker 18 (37:43):
Watching TV shows and trying to eat it.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
This is unique. It's one off seriously. Well, it's two things.
You wrap this so I heard this fecious rumor? Or
did you just technically no, technically no, I did a
social media thing that I sort of seemed to wrap
unlap that. I think I'm pretty confident. Actually, I think
you're going to love this. Oh oh look at this.

(38:10):
Oh this is amazing. They came from Britain.

Speaker 18 (38:12):
Funnily enough, it was looking good until I took us out. Okay, viewers,
So what listeners to what we've got? Is you know,
like on those infomercial ads, you put those what are
they sort of like meal trays? And it was looking
really good. It's got lovely wood surrounds. But then Amanda
and I are now going to have the the the

(38:35):
great pleasure of looking at the wonderful face of Mike
Hosking on top of our All I ask.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Of you is next wistful photo is it's it's ponderous
and thoughtful. It's the question I'm asking you with my
eyes is do you really think you win the election
next year?

Speaker 17 (38:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Hell you don't. You're worried about that anyway. All I
ask of you when you're sitting with that on your
lap looking at me I'm going to send your photo.
Is not not to spill your food? Oh yeah, because
I'm terrible to get a bit of a dribble on
the Great Man anyway, More rightly, what have you got
for me? Here we go?

Speaker 8 (39:12):
Yeah, it going right?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh my god, so I want you? Is that a
copy of the treaty?

Speaker 12 (39:19):
One?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Okay? Fantastic, beautiful beautiful bag. By the way, is this handcuffs?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
All right?

Speaker 3 (39:27):
What do you think a muzzle?

Speaker 18 (39:29):
I telling for you and Kate?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh my lord? What what? What is it?

Speaker 12 (39:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (39:34):
What do you think it is?

Speaker 3 (39:36):
It looks what does it look like? Mike?

Speaker 1 (39:42):
What do you think you do with it?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Where did you get this from? And what is it? Well? Well,
what do you think it is? Well, it's made of rubber. Yeah,
and it's black, it's black rubber. Yeah. And you would
strap it on? Yeah? Would you strap it on?

Speaker 18 (39:57):
So, so let's the You know, if you go on
hosting social media, you basically see him doing a couple
of things. One as he sits at a TV and
just curses at it, which is usually his abuse of
the warriors or someone.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Yes.

Speaker 18 (40:09):
The second thing he does is he then goes wandering
around this great ponderosa in a state. He owns half
of Northland or something apparently, and he goes out checking
the estate and making sure it's all good. So put
that around your neck it's on yeah, okay, right, so.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Or there's something to attach that. I want you to
open this. You have no one, You have no idea
how nervous I was about that because I was going
to I thought you were going to ask me to
put something else.

Speaker 18 (40:31):
And yeah, I can see you a bit anxious there,
You're a bit worried.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
Here we go. This is too good. Oh no way,
Now I want to say, no way, you might do that? No,
go the other way. Yeah, yes, yeah.

Speaker 18 (40:46):
So what we've got here team is that yesterday you
might have heard, I went to Ikea because apparently it
was on CN and I was the first person in
the country to make a physical purchase in the store
at Ikea, and I bought Mike. Yeah, I bought him
to two wine glasses. And what he's got is a
wine glass lanyard. Because as he ponders his estate and

(41:07):
looks at his over oversees all his lands and stuff,
him and Kate go wandering around and they often have
a glass of wine in your hand. I've noticed, and
as you've got older, I don't want you to trip
in four, you know, because I could be a real problem. Right,
I don't think it's really good. So we've got two
of those for you. So that's what that is. Okay,
very good. Now the second part of the gift, this
piece here which I want you to open up.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
This is God, Amanda, did the nice woman have done
all my wrapping?

Speaker 12 (41:36):
Yet?

Speaker 3 (41:36):
After that? This is oh, now you got to lay
this out, okay.

Speaker 18 (41:40):
So what we've got here, listeners, is that you'll be
aware that Mike works from six to nine am week days,
roughly thirty five weeks a year, and through the course
of this year he has given me relentless grief about
how unproductive the parliament is, albeit that he's sort of
maybe here.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Thirty five weeks a year.

Speaker 18 (41:59):
So what I've done a Mike Costing breakfast calendar, and
Mike's on holiday quite a big part of the year.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah, four months a year.

Speaker 18 (42:06):
I think I also get a lot of unsolicited advice
when I'm in Parliament during question time. So I've marked
out in green all the times that you can give
me that unsolicited advice, which is in Parliament. And then
the other two big interests in your life are obviously
F one and the Warriors game, so barre or mapped
out there on the planner. And then sometimes you love
to give a bit of esoteric advice to the listeners

(42:28):
around sort of the cameroony and election that might be
taking place. So down this side, I've just given you
a list of random world elections, so that you've got
the many and one on the seventh of June. You've
got the Tamil Nadu Legislative Assembly election, the state legister
in April twenty six. What else, You've got the rhyane
Land State election in twenty second of March. So I've

(42:48):
just got some facts therefore, so my question time for
the unsolicited advice occasionally when you're here, lovely and the
other things there.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
So that's without wood ofble lie. You win, hands down.
That's pretty good.

Speaker 18 (43:05):
I mean that's bare very good and you'll enjoy that.
But that on calendar you take, that's I never thought
you'd get anything.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
You were first part of it. I was so worried.
But the calendar is absolute genius. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 18 (43:19):
Yeah, no, have a great summer though, I will indeed
you have a familial summer.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Good luck in twenty twenty six. Oh, it's going to
be a great year, I hope. So nice to see
take Prime Minister. Seven twenty four.

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seven times now to mark the week the little piece
of news and current airs that has successfully snuck under
the elbow media bandbar consumers seven confidence at a six
month high. Are Business New Zealand six another to come
to the party with a solid economic forecast for the
next couple of years. The turnaround, they say, is reel
so green shoots, green shoots, Green shoots are vaping? Six goold?

(44:48):
Could we have turned the corner there as well? Numbers
down this week are no longer cool. Apparently, school lunch
is three. That is the stupidest story of the week.
Four days it lasted. We've become myopic. We on triviality.
It's got a small villagitiate vibe to it. Don't you
reckon the CRL three. I mean, honestly, if delays and
blowouts were progressed, we would have built an open three

(45:08):
of them by now are the aforementioned social media ban six?
Mainly for effort because it's not real, it's not practical.
It's got idea that's them all over it a scrutiny
Week six. I mean, I remember two years ago it
produced some gold, but now it just looks a little
bit like an exercise. Still a decent idea, don't get
me wrong, just likes fizz these days? Are the A
three twenty two between the software and the harder bits.

(45:30):
How's it so hard to build a plane? And in
the world where building a plane is supposed to have
gotten easier these days? Bank of England six AI warning
two point zero when it pops and it will remember
where you heard it first? Are the wholesale interest rates? Three?
Followed this because post the RB last week, interest rates
are on the up. They are second guessing Hawksby's last
day and we're all paying for it. Are the Rugby
World Cups six? We are the only team? Do you

(45:53):
realize this? We're the only team in a group with
more than one good side. That's if you count Australia,
who's a good side of course. Pete Hecksse three, I've.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Only just begun striking Narco boats.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Between the Narco boats and the signal report, I mean,
what odds you're running that he doesn't make Christmas rates
Cap seven over the week from the Central Government. If
local government just stopped whining for a moment and ask
themselves who the architects of the mess actually are and
why they might not have as much to mind about.
And that is the week copies on the websites and
marking the week when cut and colored into cool shapes

(46:26):
is adorning. At least sixteen Christmas trees all over the nation.

Speaker 12 (46:29):
News for you, and.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Then we'll get to the business of retirement villages and
Kadi and Tim to the week after. Wait here on
the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking
Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life your Way News,
togs Head Boh.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
That exchange, by the way, will be up about nine
ers this morning, maybe a little bit later. Mike Luxon
pulled out all the stops on your gifts. Yes he did.
It was deeply impressive and I'm told visually very funny
when I saw the rubber come out of the bag.
Apparently my face is quite something, Mike. That was a
nice piece of radio. Well, Graham, thank you. Luxem's good Mike.

(47:10):
You just want hard workers to do well. If you're
a hard worker, get out of the way. I think
there's probably something that was a nice festive exchange, wasn't
it that?

Speaker 12 (47:17):
I thought?

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Twenty minutes away from it. A retirement sector timikaty after right,
by the way, the retirements sector getting some attention. Bills
drawn eleven thousand submissions expected to be introduced midnext year.
Key changes will include refunds paid no later than twelve
months after the unit's vacated, weekly fees stopping immediately when
the resident leaves, and the new process for former residents
to apply for early access to funds and cases of

(47:39):
specific needs. So what do we make of all of this,
Jane Wright? Since the retirement commissioner, and there's with us, Jane,
very good morning to you, good morning, makee Have they
got it covered with this.

Speaker 19 (47:49):
Pretty much?

Speaker 17 (47:50):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (47:50):
This has been a five year process, with painstaking consultation
and assessing various sets of arguments. The government's done are
very careful balancing at going straight through the middle of
most of the disputes. I think both parties, the operators
and the residents are pleased about some things and not

(48:11):
so pleased about others, which suggest to me it's mostly right.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Is the industry problematic because the industry is problematic or
because of rules and regulations that needed changes? In other words,
is it there are the rules?

Speaker 19 (48:24):
I think at largely the rules. The acts over twenty
years old now and it was written in a very
different time with the fledry industry. Now the industry is,
as you know, is large and growing, dominated by six
large players and a number of smaller ones. And the
difficulty around all of this has been trying to balance
the rights and obligations of both residents and operators. So

(48:47):
a lot of the criticism around things like repayment of
capital some after twelve months, which is not unreasonable in
my view. In fact, it could be shorter. Some of
the opposition to that will be that the villages simply
can't forward it, and you go, well, some of this
is the market speaking. Yes, I think they can, but
if it's a small village of less than fifty units,

(49:07):
there's a provision already built into that that will give
them an exemption. So there's a fair bit of attitude
built into what will be the new legislation.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
What happened to the eyes wide open scenario, which is,
you know, all the complaints seemed to be to me,
correct me if I'm wrong that you knew what the
deal was going in. Now you may not be happy
at the other end, but you did know what it
was going in or has that not been the case?

Speaker 19 (49:31):
Well, that's that's the caveat into a principle. You know,
let the buyer beware. That doesn't mean there are no
consumer protections, right, and consumer protections have changed over the
last twenty something years. So this overhaul was any effect
about rebalancing the rights and responsibilities of.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Each Okay, by the way, Trump is suggesting this morning,
don't freak out when I use that worden. This question
is coming out of left field to you. He's looking
at an Australian style retirement program. He's how to look
at Australia. You know, your work a contribute worker, the worker, employer, contributor.
He says, it works. Well, it's a good plan he's
looking to implement in America. If you could magic WAND retirement,

(50:11):
would you look at Australia as a great example.

Speaker 19 (50:15):
If I could magic WAND at thirty years ago, probably yes.
What's interesting to know about the Australian superannuation system is
that while that sounds very good and principle and it is,
because there's twelve percent of a boy contributions going in
a routinely first three that's on top of pay not
within pay, so that's interesting. And secondly that's underpinned by

(50:38):
really heavy SAT tax subsidies. And if you add up
the tax subsidies in Australia, they're not far off that
the overall cost of enzed super. So then you go
which is better and nzed super is not connected to
the labor market. It's gender blind. It's it's more fair
and equitable than a tax based system based on your

(50:59):
employment history, which a course doesn't necessarily address very well
the issues of people who come in and out of
the work force over time.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
No good answer, Well, I appreciate it very much, Joan writs.
And who's the Retirement Commissioner this morning? Speaking of Donald Trump,
seventeen minutes away from eight pasking he's been down in
the last couple of minutes the Peacemaker. As always he's said,
I don't know if you're aware of it, but this
year he sold eighty seven walls. It's been incredible. The
latest one he signed off is the DRC in Rwanda.
And he's done this, of course at a brand new building,

(51:28):
which is well, it's not really a brand new building,
it's an old building, but they've renamed it so it's
got a brand new name. It is the Donald J.
Trump Institute of Peace.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
The Democratic Republic of the can'tgoing Rwand they've agreed to
work closely integrate their economies with each.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Other rather than fighting. And they'll be doing that.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
And these two gentlemen are very.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Smart, and I think they liked each other a lot.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I spent time with them.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
I think they like the Some people may be surprised
they really do. They think they've spent a lot of
time killing each other, and now they're going to spend
a lot of time hugging, holding hands and taking advantage
of the United States of America economically like every other
country does. So they're going to do very well. But

(52:17):
they do have some valuable some very valuable things. They're
going to have a lot of money and a lot
of success. And I think they're going to get along
really well. So I hope, so thank you very much.
Look at it them, look at a way they love
each other.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Just a question, do you think? And don't get all
angsty about it because Christmas time? Do you think Donald
Trump this morning is more mental than he was in January.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
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Speaker 3 (52:52):
It'd be clarification on the Prime Minister's prison. Already I
knew this was coming. The rubber give is not from Ikea.
They don't sell rubber gifts.

Speaker 10 (53:04):
Is it rubber? It look like leather from here.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
It's leather and rubber glint.

Speaker 10 (53:07):
I both rubber and buckles.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Don't make it to m Buckles don't make it dirty anyway.

Speaker 14 (53:13):
The glasses, I'm still not convinced it is it and
it's just been repurposed.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Do you reckon? You just called it something that it
wasn't anyway, So the glasses are from Ikea. The cost
of our gift to the Prime Minister I will be
revealing after eight o'clock this morning. They've kept it from
me for it was mainly legal, wasn't it? Was it
administrative or legal?

Speaker 10 (53:31):
I better have to be declared on the pecuniary interest it.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Certainly, so we've got to declare it somewhere because the
money involved for what we got. And do look at
if you haven't seen the video of it, you do
look at it later. It's actually I actually think it's
like a great idea and a really good gift, and
I think It's the sort of thing that he and
Amanda will use on a pretty constant regular basis. But
the cost of getting it done and making it is

(53:54):
just it's everything that's wrong with the world. It's the
cost of living crisis. There's been a cost of living
christ in our gift giving this this this year, by
the way, I've done a longtitude. I've started this year
a long deitudinal study, and I was inspired by the
Dunedin study. You know, the seven fourteen twenty one twenty
eight study that's been going off for years, people who

(54:15):
were born in a certain year and they follow them
through life. I decided at the beginning of this year
to start a longitudinal study. And the longitudinal study was
based on how many people in the media turn up
for their job. Because of course I don't know if
you've noticed, but I get a little bit of grief
over the holidays I take, and it's it's unfair because
I don't take many holidays.

Speaker 14 (54:33):
There's a big planner on your console right in front
of youwise exactly, so sort.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Of that's the sort of libel as nonsense you get
from the Prime Minister down. So I just happened to
take all my holidays at once. Hence they seem a
little bit larger than they are. So we followed the
people this year and the media and worked out how
many times they actually showed up for their job. Who
do you reckon? The worst is have a think about
that and the result. It's next ten to wait on my.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Costing breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs head been.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Now this is what I'm talking about, Molly, Mike back
the truck up. You take every school holidays off, factually incorrect,
factually incorrect. I've taken those school holidays off this year. None.
I took a do I take a week in the
middle of the year. Took a week in the middle
of the year that may or may not have been
tuned with the school holidays. I don't know. But I
was here in April. I was here in September. So

(55:28):
don't give me that stuff. And this is this is
the poison that has spread around the nation as regards
my my annual leave. So we did this. I got
Paul Sammy. I mean what, I look at this, all
this these stats now and I think, the poor bastard,
why why did we you know? So I've got them
in Q one, Q two and Q three. I can
break them down into quarters, quarters or thirds of the

(55:50):
year if you want. But but so the first show
Radio New Zealand's Morning Report, did they turn up to
do their show well? By and large? Yes they did?
Assuming that what was my percentage? Do you know if
I take one week after in the week I was
here for what shall we call it, ninety eight point
five percent of the time, let's call it ninety eight
points Why why not we called it ninety eight point
five percent of the time I was here? Well, Radio
New Zealand Morning Report. Congratulations to Corn Dan who was

(56:12):
the eighty nine percent of the time. There were two
hundred and nineteen shows. He turned up for one hundred
ninety five of them. Ingrid hip Kiss, who is his
co host, turned up for two hundred of them ninety
one percent of the time, almost as good as me.
The Breakfast show on Television New Zealand not so good,
I'm afraid to tell you. There were two hundred and
ten of their shows this year. Chris Chang turned up

(56:33):
for only eighty seven percent of them. But poor old
Ginny May Clarkson and that could be part of them.
Could could be part of the story. Only turned up
for eighty two percent of them. She only turned up
for one hundred and seventy three out of two hundred
and ten shows TV and Z News at six pm.
Simon Dello. I think Simon's going to prove to be
the winner here. He only turned up for seventy six
percent of the time. He'd given up, isn't he? I mean,

(56:53):
let's be honest, we need off recently exactly he knew
he was leaving his out the door. He only turned
up one hundred and seventy one or two hundred twenty
six shows seven sharp. This is where the real story is.
Who's the bloke? Jeremy Wells? He turned up for one
hundred and ten of the one hundred and forty five shows,
seventy six percent of the time. Hillary Barry ninety three

(57:16):
shows out of one hundred and forty eight New Game
will hold on? Is she a part timer? Last time
I looked, I thought she was co host, But she
only turned up ninety three out of the one hundred
and forty five shows sixty four percent of the time.
Three News? Shall we mention three News? There are two
hundred and twenty five three News is three, you know,
cut down, sliced up three newses. Samantha Hayes, who is

(57:37):
the I was going to say, as the host of
that show? Is she she really two hundred and twenty
five shows? She only turned up to one hundred and
seventy seven of them. That makes her at seventy nine
percent almost part time? Does that make her almost part time?
I think it's almost part time. So I am quite
happy this morning to declare myself the winner.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
Yeah, we've done the math at ninety seven point seven.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
Actually is it ninety seven point seven? So I've turned
up ninety seven point seven percent of the time actual factual,
not making it up ninety seven point seven percent of
the time I turned up this year, where Ingrid turned
up ninety one percent of the time, Hillary turned up
sixty four, and Samantha turned up seventy nine. And as
we've always said this year and in fact for the

(58:22):
last seventeen years on the Mic Hosking Breakfast, numbers, don't
lie birthday, Uh, Tom and Katie for the week after.

Speaker 19 (58:30):
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Speaker 20 (58:45):
B seven bigod to a Mondycauz Mammy, It's then good.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
This is Pentatonics. I've never heard of there a vocal
Queen's pet. The old one is called Christmas in the City.
It is the eighth eighth holiday release. This one is
sixteen tracks, some new originals. These new originals, I mean
either originals are there, not only their originals and holiday favorites.

(59:22):
So you can celebrate the magic of Christmas time. Just
not the magic of Christmas time, but the magic of
Christmas time in New York was overtly New York. But
what's a song called? Is it called snow?

Speaker 10 (59:38):
Does this sound to be good for my baby?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
But not be good to buy a baby in New York?
There's nothing here that silver Bells, the Love Medley, Elf
Flits and Human Kind Christmas Classic Mednic. Anyway, it is
a past eight.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
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Speaker 3 (59:59):
Tim Wilson Goode willing to you, Hey, okay, looks to
me morning to you, good.

Speaker 18 (01:00:08):
Morning, Hey.

Speaker 15 (01:00:09):
I love that the Prime Minister said that he gave
you your gift based on what he saw on your
social media.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Which.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Your social media.

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
You know you don't have social media. Referring to my
Instagram and the fact that he's following me on my
Instagram now makes me feel a little bit, a little
bit freaked out about what I'm putting on my Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I watch it kate to you. To be fair, you
knew he followed you on Instagram. I don't think didn't.

Speaker 15 (01:00:34):
He He's commented before, but yeah, hard look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah, it's a it's a there's a little bit of
tension in the station at the moment over the gift
because the Jason's a bit upset that I awarded the
Prime Minister the best gift prize.

Speaker 15 (01:00:55):
Why your gift wasn't even Jason's idea was Sam's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
It's not a bit. But nevertheless, so Jason's upset because
he thinks our gift is useful, will continue to be useful,
and therefore that Trump's just a stunt, which is what
the calendar is.

Speaker 15 (01:01:14):
Oh, I think you'll find the calendar useful. I think
no one cares more about wacky world elections than.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
You couldn't agree more. And I'm going to get it framed.
You don't know this part, but I'm going to get
it framed and I'm going to stick it in the barn.

Speaker 21 (01:01:26):
How can you frame a calendar?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Well, because you can frame anything. You frame anything. You
put it on a hard board and you put a
frame around it, and you put glass over the front
of it and boom there it is.

Speaker 21 (01:01:37):
Oh, okay, okay. So you're not going to use it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
It's a it's an artifact. When you say use it,
what do you want me to do?

Speaker 12 (01:01:43):
Draw on it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
We draw it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
You could clear up the leave.

Speaker 15 (01:01:47):
I think you had your leave wrong, and I think
you make a good point. A lot of the media
do three or four days a week or take their
leaves sporadically throughout the year, and you're unfairly punished because
you take yours in a block at mainly because you
don't want to take time off during the year, because you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Are so dedicated to your job and so hard working.

Speaker 15 (01:02:04):
So that seems a bit unfair their criticism.

Speaker 21 (01:02:07):
Then again, then again, Sophie Paul the News, thirteen years
at school, no days off. I'm just saying that's the benchmark.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
If you miss the story in the news, she is who,
what school she go to? She never took asciated. I
don't I don't recall the school, but she was just
a whole school without taking a single sick day, and
that whole schooling career. Yeah, now that's that's fantastic. The
gift itself that we gave the Prime Minister is have
you have you two seen it literally laid eyes on
it yet or not?

Speaker 21 (01:02:39):
I haven't seen it, but I heard it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Is it a gift for a penance?

Speaker 15 (01:02:45):
The large picture of Mike on the tray, So if
that's sitting on your lap looking back up at you
while you're trying to eat your dinner, I think that
could be off putting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
What happened.

Speaker 21 (01:02:55):
Might we might see some weight loss from the Prime
Minister you put them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Off food, might not be able to finish his meals anymore.
The reason ask have you seen it? Having seen it?
So see the boss once again? Jason, He claims it's would.
I don't think it's would. I don't think Wood's come
anywhere near the tray aspect of it. So it's it's
it's a bean bag, it's a mini bean bag. It
with a faux would tray on top and on the trays.

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
TV trays are Mike.

Speaker 14 (01:03:25):
You're the only one who's never heard of them.

Speaker 22 (01:03:29):
Explain you know they have these anyway, I don't know
what these are. Now the question is how much would
you think?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
How much? How much would you think a bean bag
it with a photo of me on it costs? Roughly?

Speaker 15 (01:03:49):
I thought you weren't allowed to say the price.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
They've given me the price explicitly. No, no, no, it's not
about the price. It's it's it's it's it's just an
interesting exercise and what things cost.

Speaker 15 (01:04:01):
So, given you can get them at Brisco's for about
I think they start at like thirty nine up to
about maybe seventy nine ninety five?

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Right? And how much lost the picture? Okay, so we
unfortunately this is a bit of a revelation. We bought
three because Jason wanted one to.

Speaker 15 (01:04:18):
Take home, maybe for the kids to draw.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
On, maybe, or maybe to eat his dinner off. So then,
how much do you think it would cost to post
three of those from Britain?

Speaker 15 (01:04:32):
Oh, that'll be a lot. Actually, there's probably more experience
than the trays I've tried posting.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
It's a fortune. Okay, you say a hunding, Tim, so
one hundred and sorry? How much, Tim, did you think
the trays were roughly.

Speaker 21 (01:04:45):
Oh well, now that you say, I mean another hundred, so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
One hundred per train, so thirty bucks a tray. So
you've got you've got it for two hundred dollars. How
much do you think in total it is, Caadie, So
you said you're saying thirty nine times three is four
three forty one twenty, so you've seen one twenty. And
how much is the post.

Speaker 15 (01:05:05):
Well you've got to add the personalized photo being put
on top, so that that's probably a bit extra.

Speaker 10 (01:05:09):
Yeah, it is expensive to take a photo of bike.
It is true, it is true.

Speaker 19 (01:05:14):
That's true.

Speaker 10 (01:05:14):
He has a fee.

Speaker 21 (01:05:15):
Also also a wistful one. How many how many shots
does he have to take to get?

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
And ponderous it's library stocked and we didn't do a
special photo shoot for the I reckon.

Speaker 15 (01:05:25):
The postage would be about one fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
One fifty for the postage, one fifty for the postage,
and one twenty for the trays plus two seven Yeah,
the light trays, plus a little bit of a little
bit of extra for putting my photo on. So you've
got you've got about two seventy Do you want to
say three hundred? Katy, would you be happy? With three hundred,
three hundred, three hundred, and you would be happy Tim
with two hundred or two twenty two, twenty five.

Speaker 21 (01:05:47):
Oh, look, now that Catie's run through it, I want
to go closer to three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
I'm going to say to eighty to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I'm hearing guilt Mike for spending if all on a
shite gift when you've given given something called bro It's
not true. It turns out, Katie, you were on the
money in the sense that.

Speaker 15 (01:06:23):
You're rude to talk about the price of gifts. I
hope that they're not listening here, Amanda, because this is rute.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
No, no, no, it's it's he won't give a monkey's
It was just it's an interesting exercise in the because
it was the thought that made the gift fantastic, because
it's an awesome gift. But you're right, the postage was
the same as the gift itself.

Speaker 15 (01:06:42):
Yep, the gifts been there done that, got the T shirt.
It's a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
What is it about British Post? What are they doing there?
Is it just a rip off system?

Speaker 10 (01:06:49):
Post?

Speaker 15 (01:06:50):
I've sent stuff to the UK and I was like,
that's the last Christmas present you get in the UK?

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
More than.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Is posted?

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
Money gone?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Has everything gone through the fit the post office?

Speaker 16 (01:07:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Through the roof?

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
So we paid two forty seven for three trays.

Speaker 15 (01:07:08):
Oh that's let's let's I think that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
I agree.

Speaker 15 (01:07:11):
Who was saying that's expensive?

Speaker 3 (01:07:13):
Well the mail was two forty seven, the mail was
two forty seven, were forty seven? The mail was two
forty seven, two hundred and seven dollars to post three trays?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, that's crazy, It's nuts And could you.

Speaker 15 (01:07:27):
Not get it done here?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Are you serious?

Speaker 21 (01:07:29):
Have you tried to get You've gone down to the
local woodwork shop for the bean bag in your hand
and just said, you know, can your errold diet a
bit of that to that?

Speaker 13 (01:07:37):
And so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
So I go down to the stationary warehouse, the warehouse stationary,
and I buy some some polystyrene balls and some cheap
fabric and a state pler, and then I get some
faux wood and I stayle the bag to the wood
and then I get a photo of me with a
bit of glue and stick it on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Absolutely sad me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
It help you You think Sammy would help me? Okay,
he helps.

Speaker 15 (01:08:02):
You with everything else for next year, just campaigning for
you off here with sam that I think next year,
what you need to do is not take all your
leave at the end, but maybe break it up throughout
the year so you're not so tired by the end
of the year because you are exhausted because you do
work so hard and your work all day. But you'll say,
you'll counter that by saying it's election, yere, I'm not
going to take a single day off election as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Who doesn't love it? Well, who doesn't love election? You
put your hand up if you don't love election, everybody
loves a you love election.

Speaker 21 (01:08:33):
My hands up to we're the only three people in
the nation, every other policy, every politician, where the projects.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Your thing about your service, Katie went off this morning
at the start of the show, right right, So I
want to I want you to you'll love this, to
stand by for this. Conclude this segment with the best
service we have received yesterday, which happened.

Speaker 15 (01:08:54):
Yesterday refreshed fer memory. Sorry so much shopping?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Which service was It's not about shopping, It's about having
a problem that was solved through good service.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Can you memory?

Speaker 12 (01:09:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Here we go, so this is at our house. Yes, water,
water was a problem.

Speaker 15 (01:09:21):
Oh sorry, yes, that's too late, Katie.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
You did You didn't even remember. You don't care, you're
not interested. So we was such an insight into your marriage.
What was the question we had? We had water? Oh,
it's that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Now you can't speak anymore because.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Because you didn't remember, you lose the game.

Speaker 15 (01:09:38):
That it was so much and a day goes wrong.

Speaker 21 (01:09:43):
So all you have to do is sharp at work,
and Katie runs everything behind the scenes, and then you
expected to perform like some seal in a circus on
a Friday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Here we go, ageous. Water is a problem at the property.
So we ring up and we say what is a
problem at the property, And he goes, look, best I
can do is come tomorrow morning. Fair enough, that's not
the end of the world. We're happy with that. Then
he rings back in about twenty minutes and he goes, actually,
I can see one of the young blokes. He'll go
now and solve your problem. Instantly. So the guy, the

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young bloke, turns up at the property within maybe six seven,
eight nine minutes of us calling with the problem, and
then he rings up to tells us it's fixed. He's
come from birthcare where he's just had his baby and
he's abandoned his wife and child to come and fix
our water.

Speaker 15 (01:10:30):
Absolute legend. No, to be fair to him, I said,
please don't do that. That's way more important that you're there,
not at our property with the water. Don't worry about it.
And he said, I know I needed to get out
and get some food anyway. So I was like blown away,
incredibly kind.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
That was to be fair.

Speaker 15 (01:10:48):
We might be en route from the.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Birth care, I'd say, don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Aren't you right beside the birth care?

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
So no, well we're not really beside the birth care.
But the point is, tim I mean, is that above
and beyond? Or is that above and beyond?

Speaker 21 (01:11:03):
That's that's that's like the girl who went to school
every day every morning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
It gives us hope, gives us up and it's a
story for the season, is it not. And on that note,
Timothy Wilson, yes, you have a lovely Christmas and a
happy holiday and We'll see you next year, Kate. I
would wish you a merry Christmas and a happy holiday,
but I get the sense you feel tension with me
being there for an extended period of time from now.

Speaker 21 (01:11:26):
Why it is a long time on holiday.

Speaker 22 (01:11:28):
I will say, oh, here are you know what you thought?

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Okay, you thought this year was just you wait for
the holiday. Lovely to see you guys. We'll see you
next year. Eight twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
The Mike Hosking break were the Defenders.

Speaker 14 (01:11:42):
And he's running into the chair because he can't wait
to do this ad love here he can.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
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watching the Gulf with Foxy yesterday in Melbourne. I don't

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know why they play at that course. That course. I've
got a story about that course, but that the wind
and the hay fever and all of that stuff. Anyway,
Murray Olds is with us after the news, which is next.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
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I've never done this before ever. But I walked out
of the studio and I went off to do some
other stuff, thinking that the half hour was over, and
nobody said, hey, why are you wandering off? Because normally,
apparently when I wander off, I generally come generally come back.
And this time, because I thought the half hour was over,
I saw was on the verge of not coming back.

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And then I sat down outside and they went, you're
on here, oh am I. So therefore then I went
and did that chemist warehouse ad.

Speaker 10 (01:14:10):
Oh, it's a chemist's a.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Chemist's ware house, not the Christmas ware House.

Speaker 10 (01:14:16):
They do have a lot of Christmas stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
They've Christmas stuff and great bargains every day and all
that sort of stuff. But it's it's kind of important
in the advertising area. I've learnt over the last forty
four years to get the name of the client.

Speaker 14 (01:14:27):
The beauty of it was that you just had absolutely
no recognition of the fact that you were saying completely
the run.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
That happens a lot. There are times when I say things.
A lot of the show actually is made up of
things of me saying things that I've got no recollection
of what I actually said. Twenty two So my apologies
to Chemist Warehouse who we love twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
People, We love Murray Olds. How are you?

Speaker 12 (01:14:54):
Yes, the love comes back, Mike. Very good morning, Yeah,
pretty good, thank you after a busy weakened up with
standing in fact Parliament's risen for the year.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yes, indeed, Nika Wells, I watched issue was at the
National Press Club, and I watched this speeds and your
social media thing, and I get I get all of that,
but one hundred thousand dollars for ear tickets to New York.
I mean you've got to work pretty hard to defend that,
don't you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:19):
One hundred percent you do, Mike, I'm just looking. I've
got the receipt right in front of me. Her airfairs, right,
there's a dashed in New York from Australia. Her airfairs
weth thirty five thousand dollars. The deputy chief of staff
the airfares there thirty eight. The assistant secretary, which is
a bureaucrat twenty two thousand dollars. And so you've got

(01:15:39):
accommodation of ten here, four four, and you've got ground
transport so they will get you two thousand dollars taxis
and meals and incidentals eight hundred and fifteen bucks. I mean,
what are they doing? And then on top of this,
she's blamed in New York to spruk Australia's you know,
world leading let's stop kids looking at pawn on online platforms.

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And she's hosted some event. But that's ninety out, that's
the seventy thousand Australian dollars. I mean, here's the thing, Mike.
You know, and I know politicians are great at spending money.
That's not theirs. They never put their hand in their
pocket for buddy well anything. They never buy their own coffees.
They never buy their own taxis. They just spend money
like drunken sailors on dayDay and we have to copy it.

(01:16:24):
It's disgraceful.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
How is your social is she before us? Is she
normally trouble or is this sort of caught her out?

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:16:33):
I think this has caught her out. I mean she's look,
she's apparently a very competent minister. I've only ever heard
good things about it. She's one of the unsung ones.
You know, you have these buffoons who put their head
above the parapet and get it kicked every time they
open their mouths Now, Nika Well's apparently good, hard working
minister who's across a brief But this is it's just,
I mean, what an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
This is this social media band we're sort of looking
at from the side of the Tasman thinking to ourselves,
looking at it, turns out to be a we can
give it a crack here. I get all of that
my observation of this, and it was when we started
looking at it here it was a lot of people
will support it. What parent doesn't want their kids spending
less time on social media, etc. But the application doesn't

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seem real, therefore it won't be effective. Is that fair?

Speaker 12 (01:17:18):
Well, look, it's still early days. Mike Meta jumped this week.
The band for under sixteens comes in next week. Excuse me, sorry,
So Meta jump this week with three or four or
five of its platforms barred for children. And at the
same time they did this to get ahead of the curve,
to get all the headlines. I suppose a week out,

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a week in advance, every television network over here, talk
radio had stories of children already getting around it. The
print of this look, it's very worthy and as you say,
every mom and dad wants children to be safe online.
But the proof's going to be in the eating of
this big fat pudding. And that's the thing. It's untried.

(01:18:02):
Children are smart, you know. And you can have all
these bottoms with pointy heads and big orn room glasses
sitting in laboratory somewhere, the kids are going to come
out and go on bang bang bang, and I'll just
completely go around it. The face of recognition. When you
put on mumbled dance glasses, all of a sudden you
look eighteen. Well, yes it's great, but is it going

(01:18:22):
to work? And that's we're not going to know that
for quite some time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
Are we No, we're not this gasing to mention. When's
it going to happen. It's a funny old thing, isn't it.
Free market? I mean, not the labor governor that free market,
But I mean if you're selling your gas internationally and
the government comes to you and goes, well, you've got
to keep a little bit of gas for the Eastern seaboard,
so we're not going broke. Do they pay you for that,
do they compensate that, or do they just make you

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do it.

Speaker 12 (01:18:47):
They're going to make them do it, is my understanding.
And it's going to happen before Christmas. It's going to
happen this month. There's going to be new rules in place,
but probably grandfather existing contracts with countries like Japan. Japan's
got nothing in the way of home grown resources, energy resources.
He's got no coal, it's got no you know, it's
got no natural gas. Australia can supply that has been

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doing so for years and years and years. And here's
the thing. Western Australia has had a reserve policy to
make sure it's got domestic supplies. It's had that in
place fifteen years, no one in Canberra at the federal
level thought, well, it's a good idea, let's do that.
Only now when prices are going to the roof, when
coal fired power is running out a path because it's

(01:19:30):
just so old, no one's going to invest any more
money in it. Only now they're thinking, oh, jem, that'd
be a good idea, wouldn't it to actually hang on
to scip and stuff we're exporting for our East coast
market Victoria, New South Wales where all the people are
so yes, it's going to happen before Christmas, and the
government will say, well, well, grandfather exist in contracts, but
the rest you must preserve twenty twenty five percent for

(01:19:52):
the domestic market.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
How have you ever played at Royal Melbourne.

Speaker 12 (01:19:56):
I haven't. No, I've not been good enough to play
down there. I'd get out of the car park that
Troy would say, sorry, so turn it around.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
You welcome here because it's funny. I used to visit
my dad, and I'm pretty sure I'm right in saying this,
but he was a member of Royal Melbourne and I
remember him taking me there one day when I was
a kid, so I would have been twelve thirteen something
like that, and we played nine holes and I thought
at the time, I thought, oh, yeah, this is quite cool,
because he said, oh it's a royal on golf CAAs
you know, all that sort of stuff. No, thought, that's
quite cool. And I'm watching this course yesterday where the

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Australian openers raw for a start. Rory's sleep deprived and
he's got jet lag. Then he goes and gets hay fever,
and then he plays crap because the wind's so strong.
And I'm thinking that it doesn't look like much of
a course, Murray.

Speaker 12 (01:20:37):
It's beautiful golf course apparently. I mean, well that's what
the purres say. The greens are like pudding on a mirror.
The roof is so rough, the bug is deep and
very sandy. I mean, you just got to you have
to navigate your way around the golf course. Apparently, those
sand Belt courses are all brutal, brutal, the Royal Belt
gal of Mike. When your next come to Sydney and

(01:20:58):
your private jet, I'll take you at the Royal Bell
Gala and we shall have nine holes there and beer
in the Northern Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
I will look forward to it. You have a lovely
break mate. We'll catch up next to you. Love you,
love you, love you like a brother Murray Olds out
of Australia this morning. It just looked a bit rough
and real to me, to be perfectly frank. And it's
sort of like a lot of gum trees down the
side of the fairways and brutal winds and sand flying everywhere.
And I mean it's not a Lynx course, that's the point.
It's not a link. If it was by the beach,

(01:21:25):
I'd get it, but it isn't.

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Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
At be Australian Spotify News Crowded House, Don't Dream. It's
over second most streamed Australian track of the year. So
two problems with that. Obviously the fact that they're streaming
the song, that's not a problem, but it's an unusual
song still to be streaming, especially the second most stream song.
And you note the word Australian track, and that's what
they do, sort of dishonesty that pervades the Australian landscape

(01:21:58):
and general top artists of the usual suspects. But once
again Morgan Wallan three. I mean you can't argue with that.
Lebels six. I mean globally, country music has turned a massive,
massive corner in the last couple of years and he's
proof of that.

Speaker 14 (01:22:09):
Swift still argue when you put thirty one tracks on
your album, you're going to get out of playlists.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Well maybe that's the trick.

Speaker 10 (01:22:15):
Oh it is the trick.

Speaker 3 (01:22:15):
Well, he's good. He's good enough of course to have
thirty one tracks, which is the other trick. Taylor Swift, Drake, Morganwallan,
The Weekend Billie Eilish Top Australian Artists. Is this depressing
or not? What's the top Australian artist, Most streamed Australian artist?

Speaker 10 (01:22:29):
Oh way, don't, Sayscribe.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
The Wiggles, the Wiggles, But they also had something I
don't think that we had here, And I want to
know why not Top Australian throwback song? We didn't never
throwback list? Did we top Australian throwbacks? Thunderstrike, ac DC,
Highway to Help, ac DC Back in Black, ac DC,
you Shook Me All Night Long, ac DC, t N
t ac DC. It's like they've got no other.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
Well, it's also like ac DC went on two of us.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
Year Natalie and Brouilliers and their Kylie Minogue's in there,
and there's a lot of ac DC. I noticed also
there was a Windja thong yesterday by somebody called Jesse
Austin Stewart, who is the what is Jesse doing? Lecturer
in the School of Music and Screen Arts at Massive
University complaining yet again with our Spotify list that there

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weren't up New Zealanders in it. I mean one of
the things I used to do this, And he's sort
of arguing that, you know, we used to have this
New Zealand Music Month and it was very important and
we had some rules and everyone had to play New
Zealand music and we sort of got past that. I know,
we've still got a music month, but we got to
the point where New Zealand music was good, we liked it,
we got on board with it, and it all sort
of resolved itself. Now they're arguing that we because we

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don't stream it, is it possible we don't stream it
because we have free choice, and in having that free choice,
we choose the music we like it and choosing the
music that we like, some people in New Zealanders and
some people aren't and that's the beauty of free choice.

Speaker 10 (01:23:48):
Or we did have throwback songs, as it turns.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Out, what do we have? What's then one throwback song.

Speaker 10 (01:23:53):
Sway Backwonger, Oh that's nice, yes, and then swing by
Savage came in a second.

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Speaker 12 (01:25:08):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
What Brandon coffee roaster review got, Well, it doesn't really matter.
Just get yourself a coffee roaster. It's called cafe Logic,
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Speaker 10 (01:25:26):
Bag safe there for when you got all those guests around.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Exactly when the guests come around, I break out the
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for a political fix, watch Total Control on Netflix. It's fantastic.

Speaker 12 (01:25:36):
Etc.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
I don't know, I've never heard of that. I did
watch yesterday Adam Sandler with David let Him and David
let Himan with Adam Sandler. That's pretty good. And I've
watched Being Eddie this week, which is the Eddie Murphy documentary.
Actually think that's quite good. Five minutes away from.

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Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Now, I do have a look at the video of
our gift exchange this morning with a Prime minister on
the show?

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Is that up?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Is it going to go? It will be up very
very soon.

Speaker 12 (01:26:04):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
This was my reaction to the thing. Oh my lord,
what what? What is it?

Speaker 12 (01:26:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
What do you think it is? It looks what does
it look like? Mike? What do you think you do
with it? Where did you get this from? And what
is it? Well? Well, what do you think it is? Well,
it's made of rubber. Yeah, and it's black, it's black rubber. Yeah.
And you would strap it on? Yeah? Would you strap

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it on?

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
I've got to be the quote of the year, you
asking the Prime minister would you strap it on?

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
It's apparently my face is quite something basically.

Speaker 10 (01:26:45):
Quite christmasy yeah, hearing things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
He it was an interesting exchange because he was I
was thinking, are you because you know LUs and he's
you know, he's a he's a clean living kind of guy.
And I'm thinking, what's this guy doing with the rubber?
What's going on here? I was thinking of myself. I thought, hell,
where's he going with us? Is this like, is this
all going to blow up in his face politically anyway?
So we got him a bespoke bean bag tray or
two bean bag trays. Was that's a fabulous gift, and

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so have a look at that. He got me wine.
A wineglass lanyard was the gift. The rubber gift. There
was a lanyard with wine glasses from Ikia and a
brilliant calendar. Have a look at the calendar because it's
absolute genius. Anyway, we conclude, can you believe it? The

(01:27:29):
seventeenth year of the mic Hosking Breakfast? Count of no,
don't so, seventeenth year done. So we will look forward
to rejoining you for the eighteenth year of the MYC
Hosking Breakfast and the very very early part of twenty twenties.
I have a lovely holiday and a happy Christmas and

(01:27:50):
love to everybody, Happy days.

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