Full Show Podcast: 05 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real estate
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to day, the immigration crackdown, the Defense Minister and Keen.
David kirkhe these days as tire of KMD, which is Katmandu,
and they're about to close a bunch of stores. Cody Taylor,
He's playing some rugby this weekend. Tim and Katie to
the week Richard Arnold Murray Old's they pony up with
the good global stuff as well. Husky Friday morning, seven
past six from the Old Cart before the Horse Department.

(00:30):
Two setbacks for ideas we thought were going to work,
or perhaps we hoped we're going to work, but sadly
I can report this morning they are not ida. Number One,
we get big tech to pay for locally produced news.
That's Google paying a company like n zad me for
news that ends up on their news feed. Deals to
a degree have been done specifically between some of the companies,
but the government had the idea that as part of

(00:52):
their supporting of the Troubled Media Plan, they could drag
big tech to the table to cough up turns out
they couldn't, They can't and they won't. Australia had the
same idea. Donald Trump got wind of that told them
that these were American companies. If you tax them, he
will whack tariffs all over the place. We were waiting
in the wings to see how it all went in
Australia before we gave it the full crack. Here, neither

(01:13):
of us will be cracking anything. Idea number two banning
social media for kids one of those almost universally agreed
upon feel good ideas that was never going anywhere. Nice thought,
just not real. Australia had to crack at that too,
and like Idea number one, we're sitting waiting and watching
to see what they do. Their ban comes in in December.
It will not work. Why because we have a landmark

(01:35):
national studying this week and it's found it's impossible. The
Age Assurance Technology Trials, what they called it. It was
commissioned by the Australian government, looked at everything. Their conclusion,
no single solution exists. Can you fiddle? Can you poke?
Can your prod? Yes you can? We found I quote them,
we found a plethora of approaches that fit use cases

(01:56):
in different ways, but we did not find a single
ubiquitous solution that would suit all use cases, nor did
we find solutions that were guaranteed to be effective. And
this is where bandwagon's come in. We all like to
hate on social media, we all like to protect kids,
we all want to be seen to be doing the
right thing, and government's are not devoid of that particular weakness.
But the problem with governments is they shouldn't promise what

(02:16):
they can't deliver, and they were never going to be
able to deliver either ideas one or two. Not Australia, not.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
US, News of the World. In ninety seconds on.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Show this morning on the Hill from a Senate hearing,
Sanders VRFK, you're.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Telling the American people that the American Medical Association, representing
hundreds of thousands of people, have been co opted and
that they should not trust their doctors. And I'm the
American accotomy of pediatrics, the American head. By the way,
just for the record, every single Republican I don't mean
to be political here, mister chairman has to receive pac
money from.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
The pharmaceutical industry.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Are they all corrupted as well?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
And I'm telling you the American heart Association is quite
by the everybody but.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
You, sir Elizabeth Warren was there as well as you
and el As regards the Portuguese crash, this bloke was
on board and that he made him. I only started
to panic when I saw the other courage coming down.
If the other one crashed into us, we would all die,
and I screamed, We're all going to die here in
Brooking a couple of things. Versaly Starmer's working awfully hart
this morning to defend Rayner over a text on.

Speaker 7 (03:22):
She new on Monday that she had taken advice previously
when she did the compares as she was taking further advice,
but the actual advice came through on Wednesday morning.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Having said that just breaking in the last hour, Very
Cohen Associates, which is her lawyers, which she claims gave
her advice on Tex said we represented her on the
house purchase, but we gave her never did give her
any tax advice. So I think that's the end of it,
and she's taste. Meantime, in ipping the bloke who sparked
the original protest and the court case from the council,

(03:53):
he's been found guilty.

Speaker 8 (03:54):
He was accused of approaching a fourteen year old local girl,
making lude come towards her, touching her thigh and telling
her that she was very pretty, that he wants to
make babies with her back at his hotel room at
the Bell in Epping.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Now the fashion world has lost one of the grapes
as well.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
He bought a sort of gravitas to the industry that
very few people would be able to achieve today. So
he really felt like her kind of an example of
a lost generation. I think, kind of lost elegance that
we don't really see and we probably won't see again.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
She refers to Jorgio Armani, working till the End, died
at the age of ninety one. I'll work you through
some of his highlights and low lights later on in
the program that has news the world in nineteen jobs,
the big one coming out tomorrow in America. But this
morning we got first time claims for unemployment benefits that's
risen to an eleven week high. So that gives you
an indication that just maybe, in fact, the quote was

(04:50):
the labor market is showing signs of cracking. So it's
signs that just maybe those terrors are starting to hit
twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
The mic asking Breakfast full show podcast on a hard
radio ow if my News talks.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Eb now the court loss for Trump overnight are Harvard
that freeze on the funds that turns out to be illegal.
So by my account, that's zero for five this week.
By the way, that Coalition of the Willing meeting overnight
which we took part in. I understand Luxlan was part
of that meeting via zoom. Obviously. Macron says there are
twenty six countries who are ready to send troops by land,

(05:26):
sea or air. What I want to know? Actually he
claims it's thirty five, and so thirty five were there?
Twenty six are snding troops? Are we one of them?
Judith Collins after seven fifteen past a bye you a
diamond ring. I'm j my Wealth Andrew Keller her good
Friday morning, Very good morning, Mike. So consents to one

(05:47):
thing and we're fascinated by them building work in places
another what do we got?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Okay?

Speaker 10 (05:52):
So, look, the thing about the start of Mike is
it's a little dated. So I mean we're in September
and this is Q two data, so it's the end
of June. But it's all we got, So we deal
with what we got, don't we Yes, you're right, building
consents are stable, they're not getting any worse. The building
work put in place tells us what's actually being built,
so it estimates the value and volume of work put
in place on construction jobs in New Zealand over the

(06:13):
June quarter, So we get that little insight into the
growth and activity and what is an important sector of
the economy. So what are the numbers. The seasonally adjusted
total building volume fell one point eight percent compared to
the March quarter, and you can break that down into
residential which fell two point nine percent, a non residential
which was more resilient, only falling zero point four percent,

(06:34):
and the total building value fell quite a large eight
and a half percent. Now, Mike, there's a little important
bit of context there, because in the March quarter, the
residential work, when we look at the breakdown of that,
it lifted, and that was after four consecutive quarters of contraction.
So we got a little bit excited then. But the
June quarter the needle has turned down again and the

(06:57):
risk of repeating an oft used refrain in this property sector.
We are dealing with the aftermath of the bursting of
an asset bubble that really did reach into every sort
of small town and suburb and every economic looking cranny
in New Zealand because it's our biggest asset class. Residential
property is down over twenty percent in many places, So
this is essentially a residential bear market. We're trying to

(07:18):
work our way out of it, but those economic headwinds
are making it hard, you know, weak employment market, falling immigration,
the reduction, and the fiscal impulse. And that two point
nine percent fall in residential activity takes residential activity as
reflected in.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
This survey to ten year lows.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
Now ASB Bank pointed out that the residential activity is
a better determinant of the construction sector momentum, So we
look to this number to provide evidence of recovery, and
I guess we have to sort of acknowledge THEAI. There
was pretty much a universal consensus that this activity, this
construction would have picked up by now, but it hasn't

(07:57):
happened yet. But his hoping, there's always Q three mic,
it's always cue.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
There's there's always went and doubt, there's Q three. Now
spending are we spending right? We're about spending?

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Well, we are a little bit.

Speaker 10 (08:09):
So this is the A and Z card spending data.
They put this out monthly and it looks at trends
and spending in their A and Z ecosystem and they
say they are seeing some improvement. You have to look
quite hard, but it's there. So overall spending was up
zero four percent in August. So they report this on
a seasonally adjusted and a three month average basis to
try and smooth out the data bit. But spending is

(08:31):
up three percent compared to the same time last year,
and they comment that apart from the impact of lower
petrol prices, the more positive trends are emerging in card spending.
Even apparel, which hasn't been doing well, finally has its
nose above water. Authors point out that there is a
clear differation though, between the nice to haves and the
must haves, So we're spending more on the must haves

(08:52):
and the nice to haves are feeling it and hospitality
and are apparel of those two there. So this is
something that poor km d Brand and CapMan do a
battling against. So, yeah, they do a rough inflation adjustment
in this report, and it is sobering because it shows
that real spending inflations is pretty flat, so maybe we're
just spending more to stand still. And a good evidence
of that, though, is if you look in the in

(09:13):
their in their data for grocery and foods are spending,
it's up four point two percent, but food price inflation
is now running at five percent, So you know you're
actually going a tiny little bit back. Is they're just
looking at some of the details. Some interesting things here, Mike.
Pet shops, pet shops, they are going well, we're still
looking after the pets. And second hand stores are seeing
good growth. As there's a there's a comment there, isn't

(09:35):
it some places are tanking stationary. Nobody is buying stationary anymore, Mike.
And the other one that I thought, well is interesting
because there's a there's a whole topic here, isn't it?
Boos Owl shops sales continue to decline. We are getting
our kicks elsewhere. So I really like the data series, Mirke.
It's an actual treasure chest of information. The bottom line

(09:57):
is to end the week, there is the suggestion that
things are getting just a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Thank the Good Lord for that. What are the numbers?

Speaker 11 (10:04):
There?

Speaker 10 (10:05):
You go the numbers so and the US markets looking
a little bit better overnight as well, your non fun
payrolls that'll be exciting this evening. The Dow Jones is
currently up three hundred and twenty eight points. It's almost
three quarters percent forty five thousand, six hundred. The S
and P five hundred is up point five six percent
thirty six points six four eighty four, and the Nasdaq

(10:25):
is up one hundred and twenty eight points point six
percent twenty one thousand, six hundred and twenty five now.
The fort to one hundred overnight gainedero point four two
percent nine two one six, the Nika one and a
half percent gain their six hundred and forty one points
forty two thousand, five hundred and eighty. The Shanghai Composite
down one on a quarter three seven sixty five. The

(10:46):
Aussie's gained one percent yesterday eighty eight points eight eight
two six, and then the next fifty is just keeps
keeps going up, Mike keeps going up. This We'll keep
an eye on this. Up to fifty eight points point
four five percent, thirteen thousand, one hundred and thirty three
dollar point five to eighty three six a little bit
weaker against the US and against the Ozzie. You know
this is interesting quint eight ninety six three snipped under

(11:07):
that point nine level. Got to keep an eye on
that as well. Against the Europe point five zero one
five point four to three four eight against the Pound
eighty six point seventy five Japanese again gold three thousand,
five hundred and forty three dollars and breakthrough sixty six
dollars and ninety nine sex.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
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Speaker 1 (12:09):
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
A couple of quick things, fun things. Berbery. I'm just
thinking of KMD and David Kirky's with us after seven o'clock.
CAMD is of course Katmandu. Twenty one stores, et cetera,
et cetera are Berbery who are also into clothing. They
struck trouble and they had a turnaround plan. The turnaround
plan has worked because they're going to be put back
on the foot see one hundred. They fell off the
foot Sea one hundred in London in September of last year,

(12:37):
so their turnaround plan is working. Meantime, the problem for
Porsche continues to grow. The tariffs are hitting. They've been
taken off the Decks, which is a glamour stock exchange
in Germany, and you want to be on the decks.
They're going to the secondary market because the tariffs are biting.
So it's an interesting time all over the world, isn't it.
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(14:49):
and immortality come up, you know, just randomly? Was that
the weirdest thing in the world or not used for you?
In a couple of moments, then we'll get into the
health sector and arbitray.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
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togs had been.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Started the show with RFK on the hill today, the Warren,
the Saunders and all of that. But that's before you
get to Florida, who are looking to drop mandates altogether.
Sir Richard Arnold s outside on that. Speaking of health generally,
twenty three to seven, another MESSI week for industrial relations.
Nurses took two days off of course, and now the
government has made in over senior doctors. They want mandatory
arbitration between Health in New Zealand and the union after

(15:34):
twelve months are basically going nowhere. Se mean Brown's a
Health minister of course, and us with us morning, good
morning mate. So they've got till four pm today to respond.
You're confident or not.

Speaker 15 (15:44):
Look, I hope they do the right thing and support
binding arbitration. It's been twelve months of negotiation. There's been
the Employment Relations Authority involved facilitation. The latest offer was
rejected by the union on Monday and they then immediately
ballot it started balancing their staff for another strike later
this month. Ultimately, they would mean more key we's missing

(16:06):
out on the care that they are entitled to, and
so I'm asking both parties to agree to binding arbitration
to resolve this issue so you can move forward and
put patients first.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
The gap, as you understand it is that gargantub been
large small. Is there a problem or not?

Speaker 15 (16:21):
Well, Look, I think the union's put a very very
significant request on the table. Health new Zealand has tried
to address those with a range of issues They've tried
to put try to address a range of the union's
issues such as retention and hard to staff hospitals with
payments to staff who work in those more regional, remote areas.

(16:42):
They've addressed issues such as junior doctors becoming senior doctors
effectively currently get a pay cut, removing those bottom bands
so that those doctors progress in their pay and increases
in the bands over time as well. So Health new
Zealand's tried to address that with the offer it's been rejected,
and so ultimately the way forward in my view and
the government's view, is to have binding arbitration so that

(17:05):
both parties can come together. Independent arbitrator determines the case
and puts forward a recommendation which both parties are then
bound by.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Can't remember, but it was this year. What was the
other one you were involved with. Was it the nurses
that went off to arbitration.

Speaker 15 (17:19):
Well, the nurses have had facilitation and they've had health museums.
I've been working through that with them. They've strike that
has been strikes this week. I've been encouraging both parties
to get back to the bargaining table, which I understand
they will following yesterday's strikes, which is the right thing
to do. Ultimately, my key message is striking is not

(17:41):
the answer. Striking impacts patients who have already been waiting
far too long for the care that they need. We
have too many people waiting too long for elective surgeries
such as hips, knees, cataracts. We've made good progress this year.
Those wait lists are coming down, which is fantastic and
his testament to the hard working doctors, nurses, surgeons. But
we have to keep putting patients first, settle these disputes

(18:06):
and move forward in the best interests of patients.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Why don't we just have laws that say you get
two cracks, four cracks, whatever, and after that you're off
to mediation full stop.

Speaker 15 (18:14):
Well, I think there certainly is a need to look
at this, and I know that the Minister of Public Services,
Judith Collins, is looking at a range of things in
this space. But what I'm doing is what I can
with the powers that exists and effectively trying to persuade
both parties to come to the table agree to a
process which then binds them to an outcome so we

(18:35):
can move forward in the best interests of patients.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
You're losing the political debate on this because health is
supposed to be off the political radar and it isn't.

Speaker 15 (18:43):
Look I think what we're trying to do here is
find a way through. We are making good progress for
patients this year. We're seeing those wait lists drop, but
ultimately my key message to the unions is striking isn't
the answer. We need to find a way through this,
and that's what I'm putting on the table.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I have a good weekend. Appreciate it. Health Minister Simeon Brown,
the Judith Colin things interesting you probably it wasn't covered properly.
But defense has changed. They change or will change the
law on defense so military can now serve in administrative
roles if there is a strike. And Labour's been asking
a lot of questions in the House of late over.

(19:21):
You know, are you going to change the laws around striking?
So something is afoot and if it is, that's good.
I probably don't have time to talk to Judith about
it after seven o'clock, but maybe if time allows, will
give it a crack, because we've got the war to
deal with. Nineteen two seven Pasky Weld on Littleton Port
Record result this christ you city owned, of course, but

(19:41):
it's up sixty two percent. I like a good story.
Revenues up six point eight percent. Container volumes actually down,
but the fertilizer in the grain is moving up significantly,
and that's always a good story. So anyone who's doing
well is in my good books.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
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Speaker 2 (20:02):
Bit of social media ranks in the last twenty four hours.
I'll come back to the Murray party thing. But this
time yesterday I think I was telling you about Mike Joy,
the Heads of the Water guy, and he talked about
hanging dairy industry CEOs and this bit of anks around
all of that, and yesterday the sea was doubling down.
Yesterday wasn't going to apologize, but somebody got to him.
So by the end of the day he'd apologized sixteen to.

Speaker 16 (20:21):
Two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Which should I do? Morning to you?

Speaker 12 (20:29):
What you like?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
What are shambles that was on there?

Speaker 17 (20:31):
Indeed you might be forgiven for asking for meds. And
after listening to three hours of this stuff, this health
policy hearing where RFK Junior, the Health Secretary, was grilled
over his vaccine skepticism, what's to be made of it?
I don't know. This was the most combative hearing of
recent times, and that is saying a deal, isn't it.
There were personal slams and accusations of lying, a barrage

(20:51):
of attacks on Kennedy. Here to a sample, starting with
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren. You know, with the new COVID
vaccine about to be rolled out the US government, who
is recommending coverage shots only for certain people, those over
sixty five or those with a risk of severe illness.
Others might need a doctor's prescription and they have to
pay for that plus hundred and forty bucks US for
the vaccine, so says Larren.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
Taking them away from people.

Speaker 17 (21:14):
Senator, it takes it away if you can't get it
from your pharmacy.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Well, most Americans are going to be able to get
it from their pharmacy.

Speaker 6 (21:22):
Four free dollars. You know what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (21:25):
The UIRI has it to the health of the American people?

Speaker 5 (21:28):
I think that you are resigned.

Speaker 17 (21:29):
Yeah, it was not only Democrats who were lashing RFK.
Republican Senator Bill Cassidy is actually the one who's last
minute vote brought Kennedy's confirmation when he got the job.
He is now raising concern about the availability of vaccines.
Cassidy is a doctor as well.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I was effectively we're denying people vaccine.

Speaker 6 (21:47):
I hate Senator cat Well.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
I ain't it wrong.

Speaker 17 (21:49):
I You're wrong, says RFK at the end there. But
the question is not resolved, is it. Republican Senator Tom
Tillis also is raising doubts about the RFK approach. Queen
Trump said the other day, Trump had his eye maybe
a Nobel Prize for medicine as well as the Nobel
Peace Prize, the medical one. He said yes for backing
the push for the COVID vaccine when it first hit through.

(22:11):
What was known as Operation Warp Speed. Trump wrote, quote,
many people think they are a miracle that saved millions
of lives. Others disagreed. What's the truth he wanted? RFK
says he thinks Trump yeah, should be given a Nobel Prize,
while previously he called the COVID vaccine the deadliest ever made.
So confused, yet are we all? This also ties into
the politics of the sacking of Susan Monaroz as head

(22:33):
of the CDCV Centers for Disease Control. She wrote an
op ed for The Wall Street Journal today saying RFK
had asked her to pre approve any vaccine recommendations of
his newly appointed vaccine reviewed team. She said she refused
to do that. RFK says she's lying and that he
sacked her because she told him she could not be trusted, adding.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
We have the sickest country in the world. That's why
we have to fire people of the CDC.

Speaker 17 (22:57):
Bottom line, Republican discontent with rakare growing this hearing. Did
ZIP to clear things up?

Speaker 2 (23:03):
You got a ticket?

Speaker 17 (23:05):
No, maybe you know when it hits another few few
zillion dollars. But those responsible for this country's biggest lottery,
the powerble or seeing the jackpot's spiking. It's now at
one point seven billion with a B dollars that is
two point nine billion New Zealand. You get a bit
under half of that if you take the lump some
if you winnes this thing. But as ever, your chances
are about the being being hit by lightning twice before breakfast.

(23:27):
This is not the biggest loto prize ever here, but
it's getting them. Previously the record stood at forty one drawings.
This is the forty second week. Next go round is Sunday,
your time, but at two bucks to play, we're in
the sick yet again, a lottery fever, although some say
this is less a game of chance than a national tax.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, have a good one. But Richard Arnold back on Monday, Florida.
By the way, speaking of those mandates, the Florida surge
in general, somebody called Joseph Lopardo, he'd like in mandates
to slavery. Who am I to tell you what your
child should put in your body? I don't have that right.
Your body is a gift from God. So they don't
know what they haven't said when they're going to drop
the mandates. Currently, you've got to be this for public

(24:05):
schools and kids. You've got to be vaccinated for chicken pox,
appatitis B, measles, mumps, and polio. But they're looking to
be the first state to drop all mandates. Meantime, interesting
and it's well worth following. This is the New York
mederal race where the extreme liberal, the guy called Mendani,
is in the lead. So much so there are four
in the race. Trump backs Cuomo, which is interesting because

(24:27):
Quoma is just a shister and a crook. But anyway,
the incumbent Adams, and there's another guy called slee one.
So the story yesterday was that the administration, the Trump
administration were going to offer Adams and Sleeward jobs somewhere else,
like ambassadorships, pull them out of the race because the
vote's being split. So this guy Mandani is going to

(24:48):
come down the middle and just have it. Cuomo v. Mandami.
When they went head to head, of course for the
Democratic nod, Quomo lost to Mindami. So we'll see they
all the night. But you know how New York goes,
so we'll see what seems to see how that all
one folds. Ten minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Seven, the Mike Hosking breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities
News Togsdad.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Be ARMANI ninety one. That's good long life, isn't it?
First designed to ban underweight models from the runway when
that particular topic became a thing. Paul Smith, his continuity
is down to earth nature. His staying power and remaining
as an unlisted independent company has always been a huge
inspiration for me personally. I thought that was nice Maloney
as an prime minister, with his elegant sobriety and creativity,

(25:30):
he was able to bring luster to Italian fashion and
inspire the entire world in icon a tireer's worker, a
symbol of the best of Italy. Thank you for everything
that's nice. He put women in a uniform of suits
just as radical as Chanel. That was the Financial Times
concern over his health first expressed in June this year.
A Miss Milan directed a couture show in Paris just

(25:52):
recently in July. But he did that remotely from his
home in Milan, so he was working from home as well.
Everyone's doing it. If you didn't know anything about fashion,
you still knew about Georgia Omary. That's true, isn't it.
I started a career in medicine, actually moved to fashion
in the sixties, set up his own label. In seventy five,
he owned the Olympia Milano basketball team, did a partnership

(26:14):
with Scuderia as in Ferrari. Char Leclair spoke very nicely,
A great honor to have had the chance to meet
and work with such an amazing person. I bought an
Amari T shirt, very nice one, I thought one day
in I think it was Hawaii, and at the time
my wife was with me, and she said, that's fantastic.
Let's buy that because it was very expensive. And I
still have it and I still wear it, and every

(26:35):
time I wear it, she says, why have you still
got that? It's ugly ass. And that's what happens in
my fashion life. I do have a jacket though, in
Amari jacket, a leather jacket, beautiful deep blue one that
don't wear very often, but every time I wear it,
they go, oh my god, isn't that beautiful? So fashion
stands the test of time, unless it's a T shirt,
of course, then you're not allowed to wear it anymore.
Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
All the inns and the outs, it's the Bears with
business time, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Consumer and Z they've got the yearly survey of best
and worst brands. I don't know how dodgy this is.
It's consumer members based on their own experiences, so it's
opt in. I don't think they give you a list
of all they just tell you. You know who's so anyway,
here's what they've got, one hundred percent Home appliances. They've
been number one in large whiteware and appliances small appliance
categories for eleven years, so you can't argue with that.

(27:24):
Smith City number two don't mean much, does it now? Really?
PB Tech best Home Tech and Mobile Still Shop always
number one. We love still Shop. God, I love the
still Shop hardware category. They win every year. It's embarrassing.
MI to ten are number two and hardware but for
the top five overall macpack top and Sports and Outdoor category,
which is interesting giving Katmandu's story, So maybe that's there's

(27:46):
a Macpac thing. There still a Macpac. By the way,
highest customer satisfaction rating of ninety four percent, Still had
the most eligible stuff. Every retailer should look at still
to see what they do. I've never been into a
still shop. It's the owner operator thing. I've never been
into a steel shop in my life, and I've been
into a lot where they are literally scientifically brilliant at

(28:08):
what they do in terms of knowledge of the product.

Speaker 18 (28:11):
Do all the wise you've been in to have a
peete and a duty.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
They've got them all. Pete and Judy everyone they have to.
You have to if you own a still shop, that
you have to be called peak and Judy. That's a rule.
I thought everyone knew that anyway. The point being when
your next go to a restaurant and say what are
the vegetables of the day, and they look at you
blankly and go, I'll have to ask you know, still shop.
I learned that lesson a long time ago. So well
done to Still In no particular order. Down the bottom
five Rebel Sport one, New Zealand Spark. You can't be

(28:39):
a tech company and be successful, can you. There is
no way you can be a tech company because everyone
hates you. The warehouse there's the story OPSM not liked,
but that's because people like spectators for some reason. I
don't know what's going on. It's specsators. Far from that
promotion where they say you can buy two pairs for
one ninety nine, and then you go to buy the
two pairs for one ninety nine and things become slightly

(29:01):
more complicated than your thoughts, speaking from personal experience. Now
after the news, we'll go to Kiev and actually I
think she's in London now, Judith Collins, are we going
to be boots on the ground? Is that part of
our whole meeting overnight? So we'll talk to Judith about that.
Cody Taylor, he's got a busy weekend lined up. He's
with us after seven point thirty Mazari.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
News Opinion and everything in between the mic hosting breakfast
with Rainthrover leading by example News Tom Stead.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Be seven past seven. So the great illegal immigration debates
finally arrived on New Zealand shores. We have they say
about twenty one thousand overstays or people shouldn't be here. Tonga,
China and the US are your top offenders apparently, so
the government's now change of the law crackdowns on we're
linking crime and deportation, with the limit going from ten
years to twenty years. Steve Watson's GM of Compliance and
Investigations at Immigration New Zealand And is with us. Good morning,

(29:53):
Good morning Mike. There's twenty one thousand ish number that
we've got. How rock solid is that? Do we actually
know what we're dealing with or not?

Speaker 7 (29:59):
Yes, Yes we do. The previous estimate was based on
from twenty seventeen, was based on data that was the
best we had at the time. But the current estimate
we have spent a lot of time cleaning the data,
things like removing people who have become citizens, so we've
cross checked with other agencies people who have subsequently become lawful.

(30:24):
And also with one point six million border movements, there
will be some errors and we've done a really good
job in correcting. Say, for example, people who come on
dual passports arright on one and left on another.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
You've got information sharing and is it good information sharing?
Would somebody who's a bit dodgy trigger somebody somewhere?

Speaker 6 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
We For example criminality, we get referrals from police where
a person on a temporary visa or a person who's
unlawfy in New Zealand has committed a crime and we
would then commence a case to deal with that. Likewise,
with corrections where people are in prison, people serve their
sentences and then are deported straight from prison.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Right, That's why I'm asking the question. Is it just
crime that triggers it? Or could you be in the
country illegally and you could do that forever unless you
come inder crime? No one's finding it.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
No, we have a number of other good methods of
finding people. We work with a lot of other government departments.
We have a good investigative techniques with our frontline staff,
and we also have our own data that we are
getting much much better at interrogating and being much better
at data driven.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Is this going to be a what is this design
to do apart from clean up a few scumbags? Is
that essentially what it's about? Or is it a chilling
effect that if you come to the country illegally, you
just don't want to go around committing a crime.

Speaker 7 (31:48):
So we take our roles regulators very seriously, and there
is an absolute obligation on anyone who comes to New
Zealand to comply with the terms of their visa, which
includes leaving before the expiry of that visa. We expect
people to do that, and we have a number of
different ways of connecting with people, so we do connect

(32:08):
with people before the expiry of their visa to tell
them to go home. Sometimes some of my team, all
that's needed is for them to speak to someone who's
become unlawful and they will just depart at their own costs,
which of course as the best outcome.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Indeed, all right, have a good week in Steve, Steve,
what's out of immigration New Zealand? Ten minutes past seven?
The war where the Coalition to the Willing have held
another of these meetings over night. That's talk about a
support and d mining. I'll come to that in the moment,
but it comes after the visit of course to Ukraine
by our defenseman, as to Judith Collins who was in
Key to meet with her Ukrainian counterpart, among other things,
and the Judith Collins is with us morning, our good morning.

(32:43):
Mat Just out of that meeting, Macron said, of the
thirty five that were in the meeting overnight, twenty six
have committed to troops. Are we one of them?

Speaker 11 (32:52):
Well, I wasn't in the meeting, and I the primary
very clear that any such commitment would need to go
through Cambinate, and it definitely hasn't gone through Campitate. So
I can't add any water.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Would he be in a position at the meeting if
we are one of the twenty six to say, you know,
due process included where part of it could be part
of it or not.

Speaker 11 (33:17):
Well, I think the speculating the problem is that and
I have over the last your ever since this started
these meetings, tried to attend them and to be part
of those discussions. But he's been very clear to me
that any such decision would have to go through Kebinant
as it said, it hasn't okay.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
What's your sense of what you saw is is this
thing grinding on forever or is something material going to
happen soon?

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Well, I think the fact that there is three and
a half years into what Russia thought was a three
day war tells you that New Kraines not giving in.
They do, however, want to cease fire. They do, how
even wants to stopped. They do care about their people,
unlike persons, and they do worry that they have people

(34:10):
being sorted and as I saw and Kiev people being
killed in residential properties, apartment blocks with missiles coming in,
you know, just appalling behavior from Russia and thank the
war crime after war crime.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yes, anddeed. But that's the problem, isn't it. There was
a time when Kiev wasn't hitting, you were relatively safe
from Keev and that's no longer the case, which might
indicate that Russia's on the offensive and something needs to happen.
Do you get that sense?

Speaker 18 (34:40):
Me?

Speaker 11 (34:41):
Well, I think what's really clear is that it was
this particular ballistic missile that and I saw some of
its handywork, and that has been launched fourteen hundreds kilometers away.
I think that the Ukrainians are very staunch people. They

(35:02):
love the fact that they have support from places as
far as wars US, but they are also they have
listened to President Trump, they've listened to Presence Mathmoon and
the others involved in discussions, and they want to get
the sorted. The problem is so far Susan has let

(35:22):
deadlines go past, and he's simply increased what he's doing.
He's got troops in more career there now, he's clearly
supported in the war in many ways by China. I mean,
it's a difficult situation, and I think that there's a
lot riding on those discussions between the US and the

(35:44):
NATO partners, plus also countries like Australia and.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Ourselves appreciate your time. Trouble well due to the colins
the Defense Minister. So a question obviously for Reluxant on
Monday form. Somebody doesn't get to him sooner. I would
have thought someone would ask the question by now given
and he's in a meeting, and maybe we've made a commitment,
maybe we haven't. Thirteen passed the Mike Asking Breakfast Fall
Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b

(36:10):
News Talks have seventeen past seven Cody Taylor after seven thirty.
By the way, it's been a week where bricks and
mortars reminded us of the grind and retail fortune favors.
They were closing until Garage Project came along and saved it.
Last week kitchen things hit the wall. Of course, Smith's
City in the hands of the accountants now and we've
got katiem km D brands. They're looking to close twenty
one stores. David Kirk's the chairman of KMD and is

(36:31):
with us David Morning, I Catman, Do Rip Curl and
O Boss. Is there any delineation between the three or
all three struggling?

Speaker 19 (36:40):
They're all They're all they're talk to tough environment for
all companies. Obos is mostly exposed to the US, it's
a US company, and the other two are exposed to
Australasian domestic spending and consumer spending. So yeah, it's a
tough environment for all of them.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Is spending tough everywhere in the world or everywhere you are,
or is New Island and the outlier, No.

Speaker 19 (37:02):
It's tough everywhere. The greatest uncertainty actually is in the
United States. Things are it's all over the place over there,
and New Zealand is tough, and probably New Zealand is
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Tougher than in Australia.

Speaker 19 (37:15):
I think there's a little bit more optimism coming through
in Australia, but I'm sure we'll get there in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
What's your sense of your model the way you do
business versus the economy in other words, it affects everyone.

Speaker 19 (37:27):
Yeah, I think that's right. I mean we are a
people talk about as discretionary retail. In other words, people
can decide whether they buy or they don't, and when
they're when they're you know, wallets are a bit tight
and straight to being high. For quite a period that's
been difficult for people, then they don't exercise their discretion
and buy the sorts of products that we sell to.
It does depend on which part of the market you're in.

(37:49):
People have to buy food, you know, if your kitchen
appliants breaks, you have to have to replace it, but
they really don't have to go out and buy an
insulation jacket or a raincoat or a wet suit. So
we are genuinely discretionary and in difficult times people hang
on to their money.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
What about the seasonality when you have a bad winter,
bad summer, et cetera, that's beyond your control. Is that real?

Speaker 6 (38:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:11):
That is real. That is definitely real.

Speaker 19 (38:13):
But we try not to focus on that as as
something that's that we make excuses for. But we did
have a very warm lead into winter this year and
then we had a good, decent cold winter. So it
does make a big difference, particularly for cat Mandu, because
you know, we provide gear that's used in cold weather
or in rainy weather, and similarly to some extent for Ripical.

(38:35):
You know, people don't get to the beach if it's
pouring with range or they don't need to replace their
wet suit or buy some swim weear.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I was reading an article on AU Finance this morning
that called you an iconic ossie retailer. What happened there?

Speaker 19 (38:51):
You mean calling called candy brands and iconic? Yeah, well,
I think the business is much bigger in Australia now
than it is in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Formed David christ Jute For goodness sake.

Speaker 19 (38:59):
Yes, CapMan Do. But Mike, there's three brands now. There's
CapMan Do, there's Rep Curl and Obo's. And that's actually
really important because we get that seasonal diversification. We've got
summer around Winterka.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
You excited about the rugby? You buying into this fifty
years Eden Park? Oh my god, we're not as good
as we used to be. The South African is going
to kill us thing.

Speaker 19 (39:20):
Well, I don't buy the last part of that. I
think it's pretty exciting though, to have a long record
to defend at Eden Park, and I think that creates
for a lot of interest, and I'm very bought into
creating interest for rugby. I think we're going to be
killed all I think it's gonna be really interesting game
and I think we had a good chance of winning.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Good on, You're nice to talk to you appreciate it.
David Kirk, chairman of These Days of km D brands.
According to au Financer, an iconic Izzie retailer seven twenty
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than a chat about immortality. The Chinese for eight.

Speaker 14 (41:00):
I thought it was a beautiful ceremony.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I thought it was very, very impressive.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
I mean, forget the politics as a thing, as a spectacle,
as a can you believe how in time those goose
Steppers are. It was spellbinding Clark, Key, Andrews and Carbo four.
On balance, given what it was really about, I think
it was a mistake being there. Trump and courts two's,
I mean, worst week yet. I got them zero for
five this week, deporting to Guatemala, sacking people, the National Guard,

(41:25):
tariffs are now. Harvard Supreme Court better come up big time.
Trump's death too. No, it's very active over the weekend,
sad reminder of just how thick, gallible and worryingly naive
some people are. And that's before, by the way, you
get to the morons who thought Taylor had DMed Eden
Park as a wedding venue. I'm not kidding. I watched
this yesterday. There are people who thought Taylor had directly

(41:46):
dm Eden Park as a wedding venue. Bonds and yields
three get on top of this one. Debts finally started
to come home to roost. From Britain to Japan, people
are worried, and the people who are worried to the
sort of people who crash markets. Teacher's seven and increase
in enrollments just wait till the unions get hold of
them and kill the buzz. Though Neil quickly six did
the right thing. Eventually AWS seven on behalf of too

(42:10):
much of the New Zealand media. Can I say sorry
for the obsessive negativity and remind you not all of
us are like them? David Seymour seven.

Speaker 12 (42:16):
Conscious that there are non Auckland listeners on the show,
so I apologize to them.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
He is right about Paris, and more people know it
then will publicly ever admit it. Wind won from parks
to bridges to doors winds this week's display of modern
day fear driven by obsessives who no longer can think
logically for themselves. Reese Walsh six. Personally, I didn't find
it funny, but it hardly needed the tut tutting it got.
I mean, he's twenty three in a league player, He's

(42:42):
not Michael McIntyre and the Warriors. Six. Let's send it properly,
keep our fingers cross and hopefully enjoy the forum if
we beat the Seagles one hundred and fifty one nell
and don't rule that out. Foreign house is foreign House
adjustment seven common sense made more difficult than it ever
needed to be, really, but we got there in the end,

(43:03):
and we the tammicky by election two. I mean, is
this the most pitiful display of disinterest in modern democracy?
If you thought port Way Kata was bad, this thing's
going to look to head it out of the park
as of the parks open. And that's the week copies
on the website. And if you cut this out, by
the way, the right shape and color is sort of
a pinkish kind of color, you can in fact practice
your own organ transplant. Asking got the good word. No,

(43:24):
we were not one of the twenty six out of
the coalition of the willing. Over night thirty five and
the meeting twenty six committed to troops on the ground
upon a deal. Our official position is we are waiting
for the peace deal to be sorted. When and if
a peace deal is ever sorted, at that point, we
will have a word with Cabinet. So Judith was right.
I got that confirmation from slightly higher up from Judith.

(43:44):
No names mentioned, but nevertheless we can indeed confirm that
we weren't one of the twenty six. Now, the other
thing I can confirm is a number of you asked
the question morning, Mike, what are your thoughts on Matthew
Houghton's column this morning? Bruce, Let me come back to that, Mike.
Did you read Hooton's piece in the Herald? Anything in it?
Do you think?

Speaker 12 (44:03):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (44:04):
These are very good question. So we've done the homework.
We've done the research behind the scenes. Bullshit was one
of the answers we got. But I'll expand on that
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Speaker 2 (44:33):
I lad have found an article yesterday to impart answer
my question, because if you haven't seen the video of
the Venezuelan drug boat being a viscerated, and that's the
only word for it. It wasn't his bomb. It was completely
a viscerated. This week, Trump referred to it in a
press conference of the White House. He said, we've just
shot some people out of the water, so stand by
for that. And it's a fantastic video. And I thought
at the time, it's unusual to see boats are viscerated

(44:56):
like that. I wonder if that's legal, And I thought
before I sort of looked into it the article came out,
was it legal? I thought, I must read that one.
As it turns out it probably wasn't. But then it's
not a signatory the US to the United Nations Convention
on the Law of the Sea, so that gets them
out of it. Under the conventions, countries agree not to

(45:16):
interfere with vessels operating in international waters. There are limited exceptions.
It allows a state to seize the ship that's in
hot pursuit. So they didn't really seize it, didn't really
make any attempt to seize it. They just blew it up.
Force can be used to stop a boat, but generally
this should not be lethal. This was pretty lethal. Have
a look at it. You'll not doubt for a moment
how lethal it was.

Speaker 18 (45:36):
Yeah. I think the eleven people on board found it
pretty lethal.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Pretty lethal. Under Article two Brackets four of the UN Charter,
countries can resort to force. Went under attack, So I
don't think America was under attack, although he probably used
that line actually as for probably call.

Speaker 18 (45:49):
An emergency on the way to kill American.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Yeah, that'll be right, So that'll be his Argument's goy
called Michael Becker, Professor Michael Becker, Trinity College, US. Action
stretches the meaning of the term beyond breaking point. But ultimately,
once you've gone through that worked out that chances are
it was illegal. The big question, and this is the
I added politic at the moment, the big question is
who's going to do anything about it? Twenty two to

(46:11):
eight Right, as far as hype goes, Tim Katy after it.
By the way, speaking of height, as far as hype
goes tomorrow, no shortage of noise around it. All Blacks
of your South Africa, both sides have lost. But the
edentharch thing that's that's a thing, so all to play for.
As they say, Cody Taylor, great can Tabri and an
all black hooker is back with us. Good morning, Good
morning mane.

Speaker 14 (46:31):
How's it going all right?

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Well, now listen before we get to the weekend, just
talk me through Argentina a little bit. This two week
on two week off thing. Does that work for you?

Speaker 14 (46:39):
Ah? Oh? It makes it.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
So it's good for the body.

Speaker 14 (46:44):
And as you're playing two big tests and then you
sort of have a week off and then I get
stuck into another two tests. But it's been like that
for a week while now, so yeah, it's not too bad.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
And how much time we spent on what happened in Argentina?
And when did you move past sat and focus on
this week?

Speaker 14 (47:02):
We got together on Sunday. It was obviously a long
week at home for everyone on the back of a
pretty tough loss. And yeah, we had a good look
in the mirror and covered everything on Sunday and then
obviously looking forward to Monday and the week that is,
because this is a big one too.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
It is do you guys, by the way, do you
break up in between go back home?

Speaker 17 (47:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (47:25):
Yeah, so this is a long long six days at
home and what do you do well personally, just you're
back with the family and be present there and so
tip awaut some training and then yeah, just do what
I need to to come and ready to go again
for another couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
And what have you got on this Australia South Africa thing?
I mean, have you personally followed that closely? And what
do you make of what happened there?

Speaker 14 (47:52):
Yeah? We were and Argie watching those games is in
a good time. I think you know, Australia really played well.
You know, they're a well got galvanized team on the
back of a lion series and you could see that
in that first Test against South Africa and they went
close again in the second. South Africa fixed a few

(48:12):
things obviously got the result. But it just goes to
show that, you know, this competition is pretty tight.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And is it tighter than you thought? You can see
if I'd asked you out to know four weeks ago
before the whole comp began, would you have thought you
know something different?

Speaker 14 (48:26):
Personally? No, I think you know we lost the Ard
last year. You know, a couple played ozziec and then
we lost to South Africa. Last year too, So it's
always close and that's the way you want to us
as a Test footy but as all blacks, we need
to be better and that's what we're struggling to be see.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I can't see. That's what I can't work out, whether
Australia is significantly better than we thought or South Africa
is off the pace a bit.

Speaker 14 (48:54):
I think South Africa is still a great team. You know,
they really have their own identity of how they want
to play and they've playing like that for the last
four plus years. You're just gonna be able to stop it.
And they've little bit of innovation. And then Australia, you know,
on the back of you know, they've got some good
coaching over there and they've got great talent I think,
and we're seeing them play well on the Test arena.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So yeah, so how much of this weekend for you
guys is about you know, going about your business versus
a little bit of the old you know, they added
something given the record so far the season and the
South Africans and the s Eden Park record.

Speaker 14 (49:29):
Yeah, there's there's everything on the line really this week.
You know, we're well aware of Eden Park and and
We're well aware of South Africa's desperations to probably do
a job there. So yeah, this is what it's all about.
As an all back, this is where you want to be.

(49:50):
You know, walk towards that pressure or you don't. So
it's been a really good week so far and yeah,
looking forward to getting into it.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
How do you handle pressure's pressure of things?

Speaker 6 (50:00):
For you?

Speaker 14 (50:00):
It is I think everyone anyone will be lying if
they said they didn't feel it in the game. I
think you know, we've It's something that you've got to
deal with and you've got to You got to make a.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Choice with it.

Speaker 14 (50:10):
You sort of step to it or you don't. And
it really is only one choice in test footy because
if you don't step up, then you get found out.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And what do you expect of the South Africans? I mean,
what have you talked about this week? What do they bring?

Speaker 14 (50:25):
I think, well, they know the way they want to play.
Their physical men. When they get down in your health,
they're going to try and beat you and then they
use the set piece to build a good platform for
their backs that can also play. They've got some great
skilled players in their team and they've got a lot
of variations. So they're a tough team to preview, but
atin the day it's just about physicality and turning up.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
What about the rain filly shield, by the way, you're
given that and you thought you wish you were there.

Speaker 14 (50:53):
There's been a bit of chat about that. Ethan de
Grit's been pretty pretty tough for the Chests out this
week and rightly so with the Southern boys, and there's
been a banter now with the Canterbary lads getting the crack,
so yeah, going for them, that's see.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I think Canterbury will win and hold it obviously. The
only question is how many years will they hold it?

Speaker 14 (51:16):
Well, So it's a tough thing to hold. We had
Michael Jones in here this week earlier this week and
he was a part of the ten that held it
for sixty one games or something, which is something that
will never be broken.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Yeah, what weather? What about the weather's bother you? They say,
I think they're saying it's raining tomorrow morning, but it'll
be fine by night. Does any of that matter?

Speaker 14 (51:36):
No, I don't think so. When either way, when will dry,
It's going to be about rolling his flees upen and
getting into it.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
We'll go well with it. Cody Taylor All Black with
Us this morning, sixteen.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
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Speaker 3 (51:53):
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Speaker 2 (51:54):
Be So the ABS have been their half backs from box,
kicking the ball straight to the opposition. Mike, I'm not
eoser with confidence after that interview, also, Mike, what is
it what is being played for by the ABS is
not having five consecutive losses to the box. That's an
interesting stat and you're still too nil Glenn. Oh, yeah,
no change of mind. So Glenn, Glenn's Glenn's our winner
so far. He said one on one in Argentina, so

(52:16):
we got that right. And he's got zero for two
for the All Blacks for South Africa and one all
with Australia. Sam's got one all with Australia with South
Africa and too nil with Australia. So i'm i'm i'm
I say too too with South Africa, we're going to win.
And I say two too with Australia. Four thousand, two

(52:41):
hundred and ninety one votes so far. And the gripping
soap opera that is Tommicky Markodo. So that's under ten
percent of the vote so far, And if you ever
want to be disillusioned about democracy in this country, here's
your here's your glamour story. Mind you. In the general

(53:03):
election they were shocking in terms of turnout, the turnout
for a country that does eighty one eighty two something
like that percent in a general election. Tommcky McCarry got
sixty three. So I mean, it's the whole thing's pathetic?
Is it the candidates? Penny I don't know, but I've
seen and heard enough of him to believe that he's
very well respected and liked within Marridom. He seems pretty

(53:24):
in effectual rest of the time to me, a renny,
I don't know from a bar of soap. I got
around to him watching the highlights as the wrong word
the aspects of the Jack Tayman to you last weekend
that exposed her for being completely naive, hopelessly underprepared and
little short of a shambles as a candidate. And that's there.

(53:50):
I mean, I'd have trouble probably getting excited about voting
of I was enrolled in that particular electorate as well,
But I mean under ten percent, so tomorrow's a miracle
day for turnout or it's just a complete bust.

Speaker 18 (54:02):
Is there a way that we can ring some of
the people who haven't voted and ask them if they
know that there's a bi election happening.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
It's not a bad question. I fear that the result
would be even more depressing. Do you want to get
to Matthew Houton? A number of you interested in Matthew Houghton.
He's a conspiracy theorist in my book, here's my view.
I like Matthew, I like you. I've got nothing personal
against him. Saw him in a line at Melbourne Airport
the last time I saw him, said hello to each
other from across the line. But I think ever since

(54:29):
he told us that his mate Todd was going to
be the greatest leader national had ever seen and was
going to lead us to the Promised Land and mark
my words. I've known Todd for thirty years and that
didn't quite work out that way. I've lost a bit
of time for Matthew. Anyways, current thing this morning is
that Luxeon's in trouble, about to be voted out. Most likely,
Luxelon will be offered the option of staging his own

(54:50):
departure and explanation. If Luxon doesn't face reality as removal
will be messier. Luxem must quickly accept that from the
most senior ministers to the freshest backbenches, there's an emerging
consensus there's no winning next year under his leadership. We've
canvassed a couple of senior players this morning. Bullshit was
the answer to one of them. Another one said, hand
on heart, there's not even a skeeric of truth in it.

(55:12):
Simeon Brown seen as too young. Eric Stanfer Chris Bishop
are the last two standing Stamford old Bishop would do
the job much better with far greater knowledge of New
zealand It's communities, in the range of economic and social
changes they face. Blah blah blah. So I'm dismissing this
as a bit of stirring because that's what he does.
I will say quite happily here and confidently here that

(55:33):
both Hipkins and Luxon will lead those two parties into
the election.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
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Speaker 2 (55:42):
Mike Luxem wins in a landslide next election. My prediction, Lory,
You're wrong. The days of landslides are gone because of
MMP and because of the maturation of what's going on.
So as I've said before, the Greens New Zealand first
and act and now set in stone minor players in
the political seeing there's no more discussion around the five
percent plus or minus. They're all going to get back.

(56:04):
They'll all get back with reasonable numbers. I mean anywhere
between seven and ten or eleven percent, something like that.
So you're soaking up a good chunk of the vote.
And by soaking up a good chunk of the vote,
that's less vote for the major players. And with the
major players needing smaller numbers or getting smaller numbers, they
need the other players. Therefore it will always be tight.
And it's not like Australia where or Britain. Actually Britain's
the better example. Labour one a landslide with less vote

(56:28):
than they got the previous time because they landed the
votes in the right places. Landing the votes in the
right places doesn't work in the MMP. It's just a percentage,
So there are no more landslides. I'm predicting a reason.
If the economy comes right. Here's mcauleely on one, they'll win.
They get returned because history tells you generally governments get
returned for a second tim anyway. But if the economy
comes right ish next year, they'll sail home because people

(56:52):
will wake up to the fact that you know, the
good who or the hard work's been done and you're
getting some rewards for it, and that'll be the end
of that. And Hipkins, if he turns up with a
cap gains with a wealth tax, hes taste. He's an
idiot if he even attempts it. You can't in a
growing economy with a successful government go against that with
more tax and think you're going to win. Car sales

(57:14):
things are looking better. Third consecutive month we've seen a
rise new cars. This is in the country. SUV's and
passengers up twenty percent on last year, so that's material
up twenty percent on last year. EV's still in a
quote dramatic slump. Can we just give up on EV's
Can we just accept that government's got it wrong, the

(57:35):
zealot's got it wrong. It's it's not the future. Possibly
a hybrid, possibly a pe heaver is the future. But
BEVs are dead. Sharp increase in June, so June, July
and August now where we're seeing good, good increases for
August eleven seven hundred and thirty nine cars, which is
a seventeen and a half percent game light passengers SUVs

(57:58):
eight thousand and nine, which is a nineteen percent increase
from August of last year. BEVs and plug ins are
on a downward spiral. The industry calls the numbers alarming.
BEVs the total number of BEVs. Remember I just gave
you the number eleven thousand, seven hundred and thirty eight
new cars sold. The number of BEVs in that number

(58:21):
was three eighty five. It's none, it's a joke. Rangers
back on top, ahl Lie, that's not it's the rab
still rav Ranger high lux asx Celtos in the Utlander
are your top four or five? Triton Nevara Everest and
the shark that's sharks ugly? Isn't it the BYD shark?
Have you seen that? What a tank? Mind? Joe fourteen

(58:43):
hundred and twenty four people disagree with me? What do
I know? Tim and Katie after right after the news,
which is next here a news talk said.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
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Speaker 6 (59:00):
Be, There's a creek, Oh, walk to my house?

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Fell like a lot true good voice, Wooden Bridge, watch
the Eels playing cool. Elizabeth Stokes, Bard of the Beths.
She in the Sydney Morning Herald this week and she
was talking about some sort of medical situation. Just chat

(59:30):
chp temy that is her look up an article in
the Sindney Morning Herald. I read it, but I just
couldn't remember where I saw it. Expert in a Dying
Field was the last album, and I remember at the
time thinking what a brilliant title for an album, Expert
in a Dying Field. This one's called straight Line was
a lie that's equally clever. I think I can't work out. Also,

(59:56):
it says expert in a Dying Field. The hookey Indie
Rockers third album and most melancholic endeavor yet the bets
Bet Elizabeth Stokes was having trouble writing new songs. Now
is that a reference to this being the third or
the last one being the third? Ten tracks, forty three
minutes and forty seven seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
A week in Review with two degrees fighting for fair
for Kiwi, business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Like to congratulate Gwen, who's produced some music for about
the first time. I think pretty much all year that
I could actually stomach for any sustained period of time.
So I don't know what happened there. Tim Wilson's what
is Timothy?

Speaker 6 (01:00:32):
Good morning, Good morning, And I agree. I'm loving this song.
It's got a country feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Okay, Catherine, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:00:42):
You're an expert in the dying field.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
It's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
It's about what's the dying field?

Speaker 16 (01:00:49):
The media?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Oh, the media generally? Yeah, well, some bits are some
bits aren't. But it's a nice it's nice of you
to say. Speaking actually, speaking of the field. I learnt
something this week about a colleague of mine, Jason Pine.
You know Jason Pine, Yes, Piny Piney. So he turns up.
I've just watched him do a pre record, and he

(01:01:14):
turned up the other morning at about five o'clock and
he was doing some other pre record. So what I
know about his show is he does a tremendous amount
of pre records for a start, But I don't know
whether to approach him because he was sitting there for
a sustained period of time, and of course I left
at six to go into the studio and do the show.
And then I came out at seven and he was

(01:01:35):
still there prepping for the and he was still there
at nine, So he was prepping for this interview for
four hours and he hadn't done.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
The interviewing other work.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
It didn't appear, so it appeared that he's just a
slow prepper. And so I didn't know what to do
about that, and whether I'm so when I admire him
for coming in and actually putting some energy in because
so many people in this industry just wing it so
good on for being diligent, but there's diligence and sort
of like you don't know what you're doing this where I.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
Wouldn't cast dispersions on him at all, because you should
absolutely endorse anyone that's prepared to come in and do
the work and do the prep, because that is again
a thing that we see dying in this industry. Everybody
just shows up a minute before they're due to hand
and it or do anything with no prep. So I
would I would commend him for that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Okay, yeah, I would have thought.

Speaker 13 (01:02:24):
I would have thought you would have recognized him as
a as a brother in arms and that respect traveler.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
No, he is preps more than you.

Speaker 9 (01:02:32):
You're in there at three am.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
No prepping. This is my point. My point being is
there's there's prep and this efficiency of movement, and so
you want to you want to be as industrious as
you possibly can to get as much done. That's my
only point. Next question, he was doing other things? Okay,
well let's let's give him the benefit of that. With
all the collect this weekend show is going to be stunning.

(01:02:55):
I mean twelve twelve to three. I mean I think both.

Speaker 9 (01:02:57):
He's a hot performer. He's award winning, so this something
in it isn't that? I mean if he if he
was a loser, who wasn't getting Yeah, he's a wood winning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Ward winning. I just thought he got nominated. I was
going to look, I've undersold him again, haven't I got
nodding through the grass time?

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
And it's a big it's a big weekend for sport.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You know me. I love my sport.

Speaker 13 (01:03:16):
And boy, oh boy, you'll blacks, you'll blacks and the
Fortress with the springs.

Speaker 20 (01:03:21):
With they don't call him the springs tem No quick
question for you, Katie is has Kate Princess got hair extensions?

Speaker 9 (01:03:32):
Oh, I wondered extually if it was a full blown
Wiged told you one of the photos.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I knew it as soon as I saw that photo
this morning. I thought, here extensions all day long. She
looks magnificent.

Speaker 9 (01:03:43):
Hair extensions and wigs are two different things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
You realize, Well, I do know, but I don't. I
don't think there's a wig there at all. But I
think there are hair extensions for people. People are going
to go look at the photos. So she's back on
royal duties today. She's gone slightly blonde. It looks magnificent,
but there's a whole lot of hair. Though so much here.

Speaker 9 (01:04:01):
Arguably bordering on too much? Here is that for such
a tiny, tiny frame?

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
She Is it a crimp or a curl? She's running?

Speaker 9 (01:04:10):
No, it's just a soft curl, not a crump.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
Should we should we bring Greg? Should we bring Greg
and the expert here?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah no, Greg. Greg Greggs liberally is not out of
bed until about nine. Having said that, would it be
Glenn who knows a lot about here? He says it's
a diceon air rap. Do you think it's a dison
air wrap?

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Could be?

Speaker 9 (01:04:29):
They give you a lot of volume just ask Nichola Willis.
I'm sure she's doing the air rap at times too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Nikola Willis, next question, what's an air rap? There? What
the thing is? And don't ask what an air wrapper is?

Speaker 18 (01:04:42):
Do you not know what is it? Do you not
know what the coander effect is?

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
Is it? I mean, is it a blow dryer? Is
that what it is? Put on the end of the
vacuum cleaner, on ther vacuum cleaner?

Speaker 12 (01:04:56):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Next? Next question, is Nikola will Us the only female
MP who wears false eyelashes?

Speaker 8 (01:05:05):
Does she wear falselishes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
No question? Absolutely, no question, and not that that's not
an aspersion the same way I wasn't casting aspersions on
Jason's prep. But she wears look at her next time.
She puts a lot of energy into it. That matter what,
don't make it. No, I don't genderize this. It's not
a politicians, it's not sexist. I was congratulating her on

(01:05:30):
it because she, like Jason, puts energy and effort into
something and in this case it's her look and good
on for doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
And there we are.

Speaker 13 (01:05:38):
We've okay, we've actually done so, We've turned them around
on poney, We've actually.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Done the U tune. We've worked it. I love I
love the positivity. This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
I need some Ikea and put in the moment please.
Thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Asking you or losing it?

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
That's hey, can I just I just got a little
bones to pick with you. I would not have given
that Matthew Houghton piece are scac of airtime. That is
the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen in the
paper in a long time. And I'm sure that's why
they give them a column. It's just clickbait. They want
to rage bait you. They want you to get annoyed

(01:06:28):
because there's nothing in that. There's no truths.

Speaker 13 (01:06:33):
But also it's it's like, where's the credibility based on
previous predictions in the sense that this is this and
I think you did note that is that there's a
bit of prior form here and.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
There is I shouldn't. My reason, in my defense, abbit hole,
you didn't prepare enough.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
You see, you've got to talk to Piney.

Speaker 13 (01:06:52):
And figure out your preparation, get it right, spend four
hours on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
A I got some editorial piece, I got some texts,
and I thought, okay, I'll respond to the audience. But
it's a good point Piney. By the way, an update.
The interview was at six o'clock, so he started prep
at five, so he had one hour prep for the interview.
Glen City was in the studio editing. Now, that would
be my advice, don't do an interview. You have to
edit clean, quick, sharp, to the point, don't don't wax

(01:07:16):
lyrical top and tail at top and had the top
and tail that's that's that's that's the that's the ultra
Katie's ikea. Were you as surprised as I was at
Luxon's large collection of iq.

Speaker 9 (01:07:27):
I was surprised that he said he has dragged a
cubby all over the world in as many various houses
and places that he's lived. I would have thought that
was sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
A can I ask a question? Lots of cubby a
cubby holder.

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
It's like a cubby to hold stuff, you know, it's
like a description cubby.

Speaker 13 (01:07:46):
And I'm not allowed to ask what's that thing that
you know was doing this year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
The reason. I. By the way, Glenn tells me that
Sir James's as and Dyson has literally just launched the
new air wrap in Berlin this morning, and so I
suspect that Kate is an ambassador for them, and she'll
put it up on Instagram later on today with some likes.

Speaker 9 (01:08:06):
It'll be on everybody's Christmas wish list this year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
How much is an air rap, Katie?

Speaker 9 (01:08:11):
They're close to a thousand dollars if.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
We established what they are there is.

Speaker 13 (01:08:18):
It's a plastic stick with air, a plastic stick with air.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
That comes with multiple different heads and things. You can
curl with it, you can brush.

Speaker 14 (01:08:29):
Dry with it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:31):
Look, I'm not sponsored by Dyson, so I'm not going
to say anything.

Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
More about it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:35):
Make me their ambassador.

Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
Could might be an ambassador. He could he could deal
with a bit of curling and for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
A hair wrap. I don't know about that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:43):
You need more hair you have to talk to I have.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
To talk to Greg about that.

Speaker 12 (01:08:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Have you been participating in the snake promotion at all?
Tim at the supermarket? I haven't.

Speaker 13 (01:08:54):
Okay, what do you want to just I'm just trying.
I'm just trying to emerge from a snow Driftsney discs
the worst thing ever. Honestly, people, people will are you
familiar with the Disney disc thing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Are you still using? You mean discs? As and CDs
are collecting.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
So there's Mike, there's a thing called a supermarket that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
We're getting from.

Speaker 9 (01:09:22):
That's new World.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Oh, for god's sake, multiple emotions. I mean, talk about
keep your messages nice and clear. Supermarket land, so you
get Disney discs and how many of those are you going?

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
But people, The thing is, people say they're useless. They
the houses.

Speaker 13 (01:09:37):
There's a toundre of Disney disc wrappers all through the
house and I'm constantly picking them up. What do you
do when people see us at the supermarket? They go, oh,
look there's a nice family. I'll give them my Disney discs. Please,
no more Disney disc What do you do with them?

Speaker 11 (01:09:50):
They're rubbish?

Speaker 13 (01:09:52):
Well, you just you leave them under couches, You put
them in the way of people. You just annoy your
parents with them. That's what they're there for. Apparently collectible,
nothing's collectible? What is what did lumps of plastic?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
What did Josh do? Caddie? What did Josh collect? The
Weebel's wobble, but mighty beans. Mighty beans. He was into
collecting everything but mighty beans. The nearest we got to collectibles,
I thought that were genuine collectibles, were mighty beans.

Speaker 18 (01:10:17):
But we've still got the mighty beans.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
I'm keeping them for the grandchildren, because mighty beans were
actually cool.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Keeping them. Never say that out. I'm keeping them.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
For me to throw them out so I can't.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
No pressure. Come on, kids, give me grand cats.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
The reason, the reason I just asked about the Ikea
and the surprise. I thought Ikea was correct me if
I'm wrong. I thought Ikia was a stage of life
whereby you're setting up your flat in London and you
bring home your allen keys and your battle with your
you know, to make a stool or a table or
a sideboard or whatever it is, and then you move on.
Is that not the case?

Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
Yeah, that's Oka and also meat balls.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
Also Ikea Ikia.

Speaker 13 (01:10:57):
Anyone planning, anyone planning to get married together an Kia
flap pack together beforehand so you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:03):
Can figure out each other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah, good test.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
It's the litmus test.

Speaker 13 (01:11:07):
If you can't put an Ikea flapback together, you need
to go to counseling.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I think we've got some good advice there. We've sorted
out Jason's career. We've done the flat pack and the
allen Key marriage test, We've done supermarket promotions. Just all
in all, I think this has been a pretty productive session.
Well done you two. Congratulations A twenty two.

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Said, I just want a little hosking, That's all I wanted.
So I was going to do their hasky. You're one
of those. I was going to do the big one
after the news Anyway, I got the final letter this
morning for a thousand dollars from Chemist ware House and
the megmense fragrance of your choosing. I was looking at
the catalog this morning, the Jean Paul Goatier La Mail
I used to have that, absolutely fantastic. It's ninety four
ninety nine. Do you know when I asked war at
about twenty years ago, I reckon I paid more for it.

(01:12:53):
Then it's incredible, Yeah, don't you ring? I mean everyone
had that but a gen boll go to yea.

Speaker 18 (01:12:57):
There and you could smell like the Mike Husking Breakfast couldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
And Birbury they've got Birbery London at half price. Now
Birbery's back on the foot Sea Stock Exchange. Not that
that really means anything, but celebrate that with some Birbury Lane. Anyway.
I've got the final letter for Father's Day coming up
after the news in a couple of moments, along of course,
with Murray Old's This Friday morning on the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Breakfast, The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rangrover leading by example, News Talks,
Dead be Marnie.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
What was the Netflix series Mike mentioned this morning? Brassek
was what you're after, Mike. Disney discs make great golf markers,
so that's useful, Mike. My wife drove forty k's to
get the last meek a mini serious honestly, twenty three
minutes you can have mine. Twenty three minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
When one thousand dollars for Father's Day, thanks to Chemist Warehouse,
the real house of fragrances and news talk, said Bee.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Amanda from Northland writes to us, this is for one
thousand dollars from our very good friends a Chemist ware
House and a two hundred dollars free grants voucher picked
the fragrance of your choice. My dad Neville is a legend.
Back in the eighties, I got a Walkman for Christmas,
but we couldn't afford any cassettes for it. I could
only listen to songs I'd recorded on the radio. But
Dad took his record collection to real Grooby, sult them

(01:14:16):
and let me use the money to buy my first
real cassettes David Bowie and Pat Bennetta. I listened to
them over and over and over. My dad would give
up anything for us. Best dad ever ever. In capital
letters with three exclamation marks, Amanda, very nice, thank you
never well done. Thousand dollars from Chemist Warehouse and that
nice voucher for the fragrance of your choice and everybody

(01:14:38):
father part of figures Bundy, I have a lovely Father's Day.
Twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 16 (01:14:42):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
mind for new Zealand Business Murray.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Old, how are you good morning, Mike.

Speaker 12 (01:14:51):
Yeah, busy week over here, very busy week.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I reckon, do you find Thomas Syle's mustas's ridiculous as I.

Speaker 12 (01:14:58):
Do, oh ages a. He's an absolute tall and a
fool and there's a lot of people here who want
to kick him back to New Zealand where he was born.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
We aren't you under the firebo one, He's you're entitled
to be, that's true.

Speaker 12 (01:15:12):
I mean under the citizenship back the Minister for Immigration
can apply to a court to revoke someone's Australian citizenship
if they're convicted of a serious offense, if they've been
jailed for at least three years and their conduct is
quote so serious it demonstrates that the person has repudiated
their allegiance to Australia unquote. I reckon, This thirty two

(01:15:33):
year old idiot is disqualified on the basis of his
mustache alone. I mean, he's just an absolute muppet mite.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Yeah, I watched the I watched the footage worth Jacinder
Ellen and he's I mean, he's just he's a classic
attention seeking clown. But and unfortunately he is ours and
so you know, you being in New Zealand to murray
you probably need to apologize to Australian says I had
this week for because we produced him sadly. But here's

(01:16:00):
the thing.

Speaker 12 (01:16:01):
I mean, he came over I think as very very young.
But here's the thing. I mean, he and his moron
mates are out there demonstrating against immigration.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Bit like Bob Katter.

Speaker 12 (01:16:11):
They're both hypocrites, they're both coming from somewhere else and
they had the nerve, they had the utter gaul to
attack an indigenous organization just there in the parklands in Melbourne.
For some reason, these black shirted halfwards when punching on
with old Aboriginal men. I mean, what's wrong with them? Then?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Well, they're mental, is the problem. Elbow spoke to Trumps.
It is not the same as a meeting, but I
suppose we're one step closer.

Speaker 12 (01:16:38):
Oh, absolutely right. That's what Richard Miles, the Defense Minutes
was doing. We understand a week ago, ten days ago
in Washington selling a stage with this meeting. It's going
to happen this month, we think. When Albanzi goes to
the United Nations meeting in the General Assembly in New York.
Both sides apparently very very happy with the overnight chat

(01:16:59):
that you know, we discussed that. This is the readout
from social media from Albanezi this morning. Another warm and
constructive conversation quite with the President. We discuss trade, economic
relationship as well as areas for growth, including critical minerals.
We also discussed shared US Australia security interests, but no

(01:17:19):
mention of the Landmark Orcus agreement. Apparently, Mike, that is
a very problematic, very problematic investment for Australia. I mean
hundreds of billions of dollars, billions of dollars, and there's
every chance will never see these submarines. So it's going
to have to come to a head at some point.
They've got this review underway in Washington. Can we let
Australia have these these you know, nuclear submarines. We can't

(01:17:43):
build enough for ourselves apparently, But anyway, look, it is
a step forward. Maybe it'll stop the dogs barking over
here from the right wing. Oh, elbot can't get a
meeting with trumpor well, hello, there's the other things on
his plate, so too for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
For goodness, there's four seventy five million for the robot.
This goes back to Morrison's was Morrison's time, wasn't it
It was?

Speaker 12 (01:18:02):
Yeah, that's right. I mean it was just a horrendous,
heartbreaking exercise and government stupidity really well, the public service
as well. They thought there were all these people out
there ripping off the welfare system, and so someone came
up with this algorithm. I'm not sure if this qualifies
as perhaps early AI.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 12 (01:18:20):
I don't know anything about it. But there's an algorithm
that was set that was run across all these people
that were on welfare payments in Australia and lo and behold,
this algorithm comes up with nearly half a million Australians
who owed the government money and in almost every single case, Mike,
you know, I know, they didn't owe anyone any money
at all. Well, some of these people they had no

(01:18:41):
ability to pay. They couldn't comprehend what was going on.
They killed themselves. They killed themselves. They you know, in
many cases, they took out loans they didn't need and
couldn't afford to pay back this debt they didn't know.
And so the government under Scott Morrison, they paid I
think in the order of one hundred and ten old
million dollars in compensation the people who were victimized in

(01:19:02):
this way, they said, hang on a second. Lawyers for
them said, hang on a second. There's no where the
good enough and now our subject to the federal court
signing off on this, they're going to get four hundred
and seventy five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Quick question joining them, Quick question, how many are there?
So therefore, how much do they each get? Does it
very depending on their circumstances and what happens with the
money for the people who are dead.

Speaker 12 (01:19:23):
Well, it's it's not a quick question, and I don't
have the answer to it. But there's a lot more
to be There's a lot more to be done in this.
I mean, the first thing, I suppose they've got this judgment,
it has to be approved and I'm not one hundred
percent sure why it must be approved of the federal court.
It has to sign off on it, and then they'll
get to that nuts and bolt stuff about allocating the money.
But sadly, tragically, some people are no longer.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
He exactly, Dan Andrews. Really interesting, So John Key and
Helen Clark did the same thing as Dan Andrews and
Bob carry. I think they made a mistake. I've said
they made a mistake. Optically, it didn't look good, but
they received nothing like the approbe room that Andrews took.
And I think Carr got away with it too. So
my question is, did Andrews take heat because he's Dan

(01:20:07):
Andrews and he's from Victoria and everyone hates on him.

Speaker 12 (01:20:11):
I think I think that's part of it. I mean,
in the big scheme of things, Dan Andrews wouldn't raid
as a dogcatcher in Beijing. He's that far down the
political pecking order Bob Carr elected. I mean, you know,
Bob car draws a whole lot more water. He's a
former Australian Foreign minister. And he actually did go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
He didn't go anywhere near the parade.

Speaker 12 (01:20:29):
He was in China shore and you know, he may
have had some senior, some top level meetings, but he
was not there be getting photos with the little weirdo
with the bad haircut in North Korea like Daniel Andrews.
I mean, it's it's just astonishing. Daniel Andrews is a
political pigmy for China and he's up there promoting. You know,
he's up there promoting economic links and the benefits of

(01:20:52):
trade between Victoria and China to that extent, I suppose
it's not a bad thing, but he just looked weird and.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Know he's an idiot. Just real quest this NAU thing.
I've become fascinated. I don't know how interested Australia is,
but the reason I'm interested in NARU two and a
half billion over thirty years, and you're paying these people
to take your crooks off your hands. In places like UK,
this ends up in court permanently and they can't do it.
In Italy it's ended up in court and they can't

(01:21:18):
do it. How is it possible that you are allowed
to export people to another country and somebody within Australia
hasn't gone This has got to be illegal human rights.
We're going to stop it.

Speaker 12 (01:21:30):
Well it's a very good question. I mean, just go
back one step. I mean, these people the High Court
of Australia, the highest court in the Landmike.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Yeah, let them out. I got that part. But then
you've got them. But then there's lots of countries want
to export people, you know, I mean Farage wants to
export them to Afghanistan. But you have seemingly successfully exported
them to Naru, and yet it's not the same calamitous
legal problem that every other country in the world seems
to have.

Speaker 12 (01:21:57):
I'm not sure that legal avenue has been exhausted. Yet
there are critics over here, opponents and very strident opponents
of this deal, saying, you are kidding. How can you
drop rapists and murderers and hundreds of them, not all
rapist murderers, but some of them are How on earth
can you drop? Can you bribe a country that's the
size of Wahiki Island with fewer inhabitants, for God's sake

(01:22:20):
and drop all these crims in the middle of that?

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Because she's an outrage according to.

Speaker 18 (01:22:24):
Many, many people.

Speaker 12 (01:22:25):
But the government seems to have done a deal, and
at the most senior level, Naru's happy to take the
money and happy to take the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Strange Aaron Patterson get home detention? Do you think you jack, mate?

Speaker 12 (01:22:38):
She won't be getting a job in the prison kitchen,
that's for sure. She may be good for the library,
but I think that's about it. We'll find out more
on Monday. We'll find out more on Monday when it's
going to be live stream. The sentence is going to
be live stream, and even the defense has said made
it's a thirty year sentence. The prosecution wants life without parole.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
All right, mane go well appreciate it. That's Murray Holds
out of Australia. Lam's worked through the massinations for the
Warriors this weekend, so I'll work you through that in
a moment. Fourteen to two the Like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
At be Okay. So the Warriors sit sixth fifth plays eight,
sixth place seven, so depending on where we end up,
will play eight or seven Sharks and the two teams
below us, which are the Panthers Rooster's still got to
play this round. This is where it all gets up
in the air of the Sharks lose to the Bulldogs
who are playing their full strength team, so probably they will,

(01:23:31):
and we beat the Eagles, which we will, we finish five,
so that's good. If the Sharks win and we win,
we finish sixth. We can't finish worse than sixth. So
in other years that would be like, hallelujah, praise the Lord.
How good has that been? This year has been different.
So we're a little bit disappointed. I think Panthers played
the Dragons. Panthers should win because, as Sam so eloquently

(01:23:52):
said to me before, he said, because Panthers are the Panthers.
And when Sam says those sort of cliches, you can't
argue with. The Panthers are the Panthers play the Rabbits.
The Rabbits dogged by injuries. But it's the big rivalry,
grame game. This is sam big rivalry again, it's the
big rivalry game. Panthers are the Panthers, so it should
be interesting. Another cliche, Sam, should be interesting, Tilly, what
should be interesting? Panthers are the Panthers. If the Roosters

(01:24:15):
lose and the Dolphins win, then the Dolphins are in
the eight at the expense of the Roosters. So, depending
on the results, will either play the Panthers, Roosters or Dolphins.
I'd take any of them apart from the Panthers, because
the Panthers are the Panthers. Roosters of the Dolphins. To
take the Dolphins, wouldn't you. I take the Dolphins. Dolphins
play the Raiders. Raiders are resting pretty much everyone, so

(01:24:37):
the Dolphins may win. Please do not ask me to
repeat that night. Away from nine, The.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Mate Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities News, togs
Head Bees.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Mike, Why on earth are you confident we're beating manly
because I use confidence and positivity every day. It's a
lifestyle Mike. Why does I Keya get so much news cover?
Which It's fine for international brands to come here, but
why do we need to promote them endlessly for free
in the news. It's not a bad question, especially given
the media's performance over a WUS this week. It seemed

(01:25:09):
so ironic. Was it just because I he has actually
got a shop? If I he was no online offering,
would we go?

Speaker 12 (01:25:15):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Where was the Belding?

Speaker 18 (01:25:17):
Hold on?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
I found some flat land there and nobody built on it.
That's a scam.

Speaker 18 (01:25:21):
Wait a minute, This finiture all just comes in a
flat box exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Hold on, that furniture is not assembled. Did we know this?
What do you mean? In allen Key six Away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Right, we got a bunch of new products this morning
from Dyson. We got the air rap that we mentioned
a moment ago. The Coender two times or Times two,
or the Coender two or the it's just a Coender
air rap and anyway makes you here look just beautiful.
Upgraded VH cyclone. We got a new handheld called the
V sixteen Piston Animal. I mean, how good's that? I mean,
come on, the V sixteen pistol an animal. It could

(01:26:01):
be anything, couldn't It could be a sex toy, are purifier,
the fan. I got the fan. It's crap. I'm sorry,
but it's crap.

Speaker 7 (01:26:09):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
I might be good, could be good. It'll make too
much noise, though, but it looks well. Possibly not. I
got the spot and scrub Ai robot. I'd need to
be convinced on that. But I'm not needing to be
convince I think this is genius. It is the pencil back.

(01:26:32):
It's boring? Was that? James, Oh, for goodness sake needs
a pitch man. He needs me, He needs to hire me,
for I could have done a lot better on the
pencil back. The pencil back is fantastic. He turned up
at the Berlin shop by the way in a convoy
of see if you can tell what he turned up
and listen, what was that? What do you mean was that?

(01:26:52):
It was a men, why do you turn up in
a Mini? Because there's the connection with Mini and clever design.
It was the first car to have a transverse engine
driving the front wheels, reducing length and maximizing interior space.
That's why I stand up on the Mini. So what
have we got? We got the air wrap, we got

(01:27:13):
the upgraded VH cyclone, we got the new handheld, the
V sixteen piston animal. I don't even know what that is.
I'm going to buy one. I mean, honestly, best name
of the air purifier. I'd be yet to be convinced
about that, and certainly the fan I'm not a fan of.
But the spot scrub AI robot, I'm not into AI.
I'm not into robots. No robots. I was talking to
Stephen Joyce the other day, chairman of this company. Don't
want to drop names anyway. He's got a robot lawn mower,

(01:27:36):
and he's had a couple of robot lawnmowers. He's got
acreage and he's convinced. I'm not convincing. I said, he's
got another one coming. That's what happens when you get
the chairman of the company. You get to buy lots
of robot lawmas. Anyway, the third one's a hybrid of
the two he's got. Therefore, the third one's supposed to
be good. I said that if that convinces you, it'll
convince me. But then I said, I said, I'm going

(01:27:57):
to have to let somebody go at my property if
I get a robot vacuum cleaner. And he had a
look on his face almost as though he didn't care.
I found that surprising. Right, listen to the show, and
that's probably said too much publicly there, But there you go.
That's me, isn't it. If I'm not back Monday, that
obviously went worse than I thought it did. And if

(01:28:17):
I am back Monday, I'd love to breed another day.
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
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