Full Show Podcast: 06 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welcome today, but coin us through one hundred k is
part of the Trump month. The Police Minister on the
commissioners claim the five hundred promise might be a bit
of an issue, The Boss of Auckland FC on their
unreal debut this season, and the local barby Part two.
This weekend, we've got the Prime Minister in for a
Christmas bybye, Tim and Katy be the week of not
the Year, Richard Arnold Murriol as they wrap it up
from offshore as well tasking it is seven past six.

(00:34):
Welcome to the day. I tell you what we did
in the last week or so. We paid our last
school fees ever ever. Get this term out of the
way and the high school years at our house are
over one of the great insights we've been lucky enough
to have over the years. As having five kids, you
see a lot of school and you see a lot
of schools. We pretty much touched every part of the
New Zealand education system. We've been to private school, public school,

(00:55):
integrated school, single sex, co ed. We've been to primary, intermediate,
and high schoo We've been to good schools, ordinary schools,
exceptional schools. The overarching view is severalfold. One principles make
or break a place. We have seen a school whose
reputation had been good suffered badly when the principal left
and the replacement wasn't seen as particularly good, only to
see it markedly improve when a new one came along

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with a fresh focus and affirmed determination. Two. Private schools
buys you options and things like extra help and facilities.
Money buys choice and expertise. Three teachers very dramatically. In
all schools, we've seen a selection of everything from lazy
to brilliant, from effective to hopeless.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Four.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
All kids are different, Possibly the most enlightening thing of all.
A school isn't a one stop shop. We had kids
at a school you might have thought would do at all.
For one child it was it was brilliant. For another,
it was a mistake. Five. A lot of it's down
to the child. I'm convinced a child who is determined
will succeed in any school. A brilliant kid who can't

(01:56):
be bothered won't. Six parents have to be engaged. School
has become a whipping boy, a social welfare department. They're
expected to take on any kid with any problem from
any home and fix them. That attitude is criminal, and
too often it's led by shocking parenting. Seven. There is
too much wastage. Take the stuff out of the day
that isn't needed. You'd be at school. I reckon about

(02:16):
two hours a day. We can do way better.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Eight.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I'm not sure it's all that different than twenty twenty
four from when I was there in eighty one. Good
teachers are rare, Most schools are fine. Most kids would
rather play sport. Essentially, like life, you get out of
it what you put into it. The only major difference
is you pay a shed load more now than you
used to.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Korea will end the week with an impeachment vote. They're
still trying to work out what the hell the president
thought he was doing.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
My wife suddenly showed me a YouTube video and said,
the president is declaring martial law. I replied, that's a
deep thke. It has to be a deep thke. There's
no way that's real.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
But it was.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Side saw the new Trump. She has arrived on the hill,
the Doge squad of meeting the lawmakers.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
You want to cut to Jillian.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
We've got to get in here, guys, but we'll look
forward to continue to discuss.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
Last question, how do you convince lawmakers who will not
help you in this effort?

Speaker 8 (03:14):
But can you say to persuade them to work with you?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Thank you, guys, we appreciate it. John Fitterman, who's a
Democrat bit and a is he really kind of way?
I seems to like Elonin Babee.

Speaker 9 (03:24):
I don't know why it's controversial to eliminate waste. So
I mean, that's not revolutionary. It's not controversial, and I
think anybody could support making our government more efficient.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
This particular Trump loves it as well.

Speaker 7 (03:38):
I believe we are upon the most transformational period in
our country's history, basically since our inception. Donald Trump calls
it the Golden Age of America. But it starts with doje.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
That's Larra by the way. Then a Britain couple of
things won justin will be popped by the lords to
say bye bye.

Speaker 10 (03:54):
A shame of what has gone or wrong, whether one
is personally responsible or not, must require a head to
row and there is only in this case one head
that rolls well enough.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And Sakia gave what some are describing as an emergency
relaunch speech. Given things have been shite.

Speaker 11 (04:12):
If there was no jeopardy, if there was no resistance,
no blockages or impediments for us to remove, then as
sure as night follows day, that will be a sign
that we're not serious about delivering change.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
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say it. Pentiny, for You're in Italy is named It's
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brown infused with a sensual and comforting warmth that merges
with its suggestion of delectable quality of cara, chocolate and coffee,
appealing to our desire for comfort that the executive director

(04:50):
of the company says it evokes thoughtful indulgence. It's sophisticated
and last year at the same time in an uncontentious
classic not unlike myself. News of the world and marketing bollocksy.
I've got to read a news fore you're on oil opek. Plus,
they postponed their plans to unwind several formal involuntary crew
production cuts that were going to cut it. And you
know what that means. With the price, They've got to

(05:10):
what they call a lukewarm outlook for global demand on oil.
So they're now restricting combined production to a bit over
thirty nine million barrels a day and they will do
that until the end of December twenty twenty six, twelve
past six.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
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Speaker 2 (05:30):
Zippy standing by for Macron'. When I say standing by,
it will be later because they do everything at night
in France. But after Barney lost his vote yesterday, Macron's
got to address the French people, the defense minister, the
Interior minister, possibly a guy called Baru who was a
former presidential candidate of the hot favorites. I use that
word loosely to replace Barnier. Barnies stays on in caretaker

(05:52):
role until Macrong gets is act together. Fifteen past six,
right over from Jami Wealth. Oh my god, it can't
be now hold on making a rare appearance in twenty
twenty four Andrew Keller, welcome back.

Speaker 12 (06:09):
Yeah, I found my way back.

Speaker 8 (06:10):
Mike had to figure out all how everything worked.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Was the how was the mighty South Carolina?

Speaker 8 (06:16):
South Carolina absolutely fascinating, Mike, fascinating. Yeah, you got to
remember South Carolina. This was Trump territory, right sixty forty
to Trump is South Carolina. And I was there. I
was all over this shop. I was in Charleston. I
was in a lake called Lake Kiwi. I was in
a little town called Spartanburgen. Honestly, Mike, I thought I'd
be descending into a hot bed of political discourse and disharmony.

(06:40):
And you know what, Mike, I had more conversations about
US politics and one day here in New Zealand than
I did in eight days in South Carolina. They just
just didn't seem to be a focus of conversation. I
thought I'd see more overt evidence of Trump's support, just
didn't see it. Hundreds of kilometersving, Mike, do you know

(07:01):
how many Trump flags I saw flying outside people's houses?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thirty three two wow.

Speaker 8 (07:06):
Two two not a Magahattan side. So lots of American flags,
the odd Confederate flag, which is a little bit disturbing,
but it just seems through businesses usual, mate. I guess
you've got to remember this is where Trump won the race.
This was mainstream Bible Belt America. It's not California, it's
not New Walk. Church is omnipresent. I was in this

(07:27):
little town called Spartan Boom, Mike. It is littered with churches,
multiple denominations. If I had to characterize, if I had
to put things in order in these small towns, in
small town America, it's family, it's faith, it's football, and
then it's politics. You know, here's an anecdote, Mike. I
flipped on the television in the hotel room. I thought
I'd better catch up with the news. How many channels

(07:49):
did I have to go through before I got something
that wasn't football. Fourteen channels of football before I hit
you know, before I hit news. Hey, look, look seriously,
people we're talking. Cost of living was an issue I saw.
I don't know how reputable it is, but I saw
something on the television about the cost of a Thanksgiving dinner.
And in the last two years it's up nineteen percent.

(08:11):
And that's what That's what sort of people were focused on.
Things were more expensive, but people seem generally optimistic. You
would be surprised at this, Mike, you would be surprised
at this. Probably not, But there was little or no
talk about climate change. And this is this isn't this is.
This is in an area that's been ravaged by the hurricane.

(08:31):
And yet what do you see? Everywhere your head turns,
what do you see?

Speaker 13 (08:34):
You see another fort f one fifty vad.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
You need another six liter pickup truck, you know, guzzling
the gas and heading down the highway. Nobody's talking about
climate change. But small town America is different, Mic, I
mean Spartanburg, small town. Forty thousand people go to the
outskirts of town. There's a BMW plant, eight million square
feet of factories, eleven thousand people working in there.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Small town America is different. Fascinating though, loved, fantastic. Glad
you enjoyed it. That's where they make their rescue of
these because now bring it back home, just quickly. Building work,
Where are we at?

Speaker 12 (09:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:06):
I think I've talked about this before. It's sort of
the end to the yang of building consents. Building consents
give you a view of intended building work put in place,
tells you what's been done, and before you throw your
hands in the air in despair because the data is
not great this dart of September quarter. It won't be
lost on listeners that it's almost Christmas now, so it's
quite dated. Look, I think we're probably in the sort
of the September quarder was probably the troth in terms

(09:29):
of the economic scorecard. Total construction activity fell three point
two percent, or big falls in both residential and commercial building,
although commercial building a bit more resilient. Look, I suspect
the outcome was also probably below economist expectations.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Residential construction fell three and a half percent.

Speaker 8 (09:45):
That's the fifth consecutive quarter of decline residential activity. It's
down twenty percent from the peak. Total activity is down
fourteen percent. You've seen a bigger fall in that in
building consent, so you do wonder whether or not there
is still a bit of runway.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
On this look.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I suspect there won't be much improvement in building were
put in place in the fourth quarter, But you think
that with improved sentiment lower interest rates, we will make
a difference sort of next year. But you know, it's
evidence that it has been a pretty tough time.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
For the building in exactly right, We've got a motor.
Give us the numbers.

Speaker 8 (10:17):
The dow Jones forty four thousand, nine hundred, forty four thousand,
eight hundred and seventy six down one hundred and thirty
seven points point three percent, no real change in s
and P five hundred six to eight seven, and then
Azdak nineteen seven hundred and eighty nine it's up fifty
four points foots one hundred gained point one five percent overnight,
and the nick A up point three Shanghai comes composite
up point one three, the A six two hundred gain

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twelve points yesterday eight four seven four, and the n
sects fifty relatively unchanged twelve thousand, eight hundred ninety six
Kiwi doll it's till week's going to cost me a
bit on my bills. Here point five eight sixty nine
point nine one two against the Aussie point four six
oh three pounds point five five five four against the
Euro eighty eight point one three Japanese yend gold two thousand,
six hundred thirty six dollars break crude seventy dollars, two

(11:02):
dollars and twenty three cents.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You're a good man. I love you like a brother.
Well done this year. If you've done your Spotify.

Speaker 8 (11:08):
Rap it's six five and eighty seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Mike, it's more than me. Well done. You go well mate,
We'll catch up in tay five. Very shad as always
you do. Andrew kellaher Joemiwealth dot Co dot m Z.
I did give you a contrast. It gave you the
in New Zealand numbers a couple of days ago. So
demand is down and they're changing their schedule. I took
the Prime Minister about that later on actually, but Southwest
this morning and American have said better than expected results

(11:31):
in the fourth courter. They're still booming and probably one
of the great talking points of the year. Prescriptions for
weight loss medications more than doubled this year, even with
limited insurance coverage. This is out of the States and
the cost we're gob zip bound. All of those GLP
one pills list prices of roughly one thousand dollars a
month before insurance and savings. They've still more than doubled.

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Changing phase of the world six twenty one. That News
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
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very nice morning, Mike. Thanks for keeping it real for
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Mike's Spotify wrapped one hundred and six thousand, eight hundred
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Speaker 2 (12:42):
Day if you've missed it. Scrap between George Russell and
Russell and Max Verstappen relatively rare, given most in the
F one Paddick actually get on fine anyway. For stapphin
got poll last weekend ahead of Russell. Mercedes challenged it
said that Verstappen deliberately slowed him down. Red Bull won that,
but for Stappen basically called Russell of winer and he'd
never seen anyone try to undermine a person. At the

(13:02):
Steward's the way he had, he'd lost all respect for him.
Fast forward to this morning Abu Dhabi Final meetably here
Russell was asked if it's all good.

Speaker 14 (13:10):
I've known Max for twelve years. I've respected him all
of his time, but now I've lost respect for him
because we're all fighting on track and he's never personal.
Now he's made it personal and someone needs to stand
up to a bully like this, and so far people
that let him get away with murder. What he was
doing was pretty clear. He was going too slow and

(13:32):
he was on the racing line and we all have
the rules to follow and he doesn't follow it. So,
as I said, it's I find his comments pretty ironic
when he comes out and says I'm going to purposefully
crash into you. I'm going to put you on your
own head.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
In the wall.

Speaker 14 (13:47):
For me, that is unacceptable. And he's gone beyond the
line here. So somebody's got a stand up to a
guy like this before he gets out of control.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
So that was put to the step and while he
was doing some Dutch media, he says, quite that's absolutely
not right. Of course he does not like it, but
that's the same as what he did with the stewards,
lying and putting things together that don't make sense. He's
just a snake in the grass. The drive to survive
guys will be wetting their pants of course. So final
weekend for Liam, of course, so we wish him well
there because he's been one of the great stories of

(14:16):
the year in terms of sport in general. The meeting
is going to be held on the ninth for Checko,
so there seems to be no farewell for him this weekend.
That'll be decided next week. The announcement will be made
that he's off. Maybe he stays in the wider Red
Bull family in some sort of promotional capacity, kind of
like Daniel Ricardo did, and you would expect it's a
Sonoda test and if that goes unbelievably well, maybe Sonoda

(14:40):
gets the seat. But it all bets seem to be
on Liam Lawson and Max for stapping together in Red
Bull for the twenty twenty five season. Bitcoin crypto bitcoins
at are one hundred k us. How does this all work.
We'll have a look at this after the news, which
is next to news Talk said be.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
The newspeakers and the personalities, the big names. Talk to
Mike for my costing Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your
local experts across residential, commercial and rural news togs Head
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Speaker 2 (15:11):
Mike, thanks for your introduction Spotify. I spent thirty one
hundred and fifteen minutes with Luke Combs this year. Lots
of time with the wild Things are and I've got
tickets to see them in January. Prove your Luke Combs
was my top artist for the year too. By the way, morning, Mike,
have a great holiday. You deserve to sleep and make
My words will not be the same in the mornings
without you. It might be better. Hell, Mike, not trying
to show one up, but my Spotify wrap for twenty

(15:32):
four was just over nineteen four hundred and fifty minutes.
It's not bad, Mike. I'm going to miss listening to you.
You're my boyfriend. Turn it down so well.

Speaker 15 (15:43):
Sorry not baby Reindier, I guess Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Mike, one hundred k is not a lot of listening time.
I managed to a mass one hundred and forty two
thousand minutes, six hours a day, three indre and sixty
five days.

Speaker 15 (15:56):
I don't think you went trying to say this as
a competition after all, I mean in the car where
some people are listening to Spotify. You're, of course, are
listening to your stick So.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, precisely. Yeah, but one hundred and forty six hours
a day, three hundred and sixty five. As I say,
I'm going to be interested in Katie's numbers because she
runs the music in our house and it's pretty much
runs all day every day. So we might be up
with but I don't for now, I don't believe you.
Twenty two to seven. Now, I noticed there's last Killer
in New York. Obviously they're talking a lot about Richard Arnold.
Shortly meantime back here Crypto, if you haven't followed as

(16:28):
having a moment, Bitcoin broake through one hundred thousand dollars
at US this week. A lot of the recent rally
is off the back of the Trump victory, of course,
because he's pro crypto. Bitcoins up one hundred and forty
percent on the year. Easy Crypto chief commercial officer Paul
quickened in the ears. Well, there's Paul. Very good morning
to you.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Good morning, how are you.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I'm very well and do thank you? Have all the
others gone with bitcoin or is it highly variable?

Speaker 3 (16:50):
No?

Speaker 16 (16:50):
Most of the older, more established coins are starting to
go as well. And there's been a couple of real
standouts that were really under the cost from the SEC
who you know, done a big chain of political dynamic
in the US, and they're kind of been unleashed.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Let's just say so, no, not alone.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
How much is the Trump factor?

Speaker 16 (17:10):
Well, I think it's fair to say that it was
a political thing in the US for the election, and
now it's become Jilliot geopolitical. He's openly said he wants
the US to become the crypto capital of the world.
The UK is going we want a piece of that.
Action in China and no surprises changed its laws to
allow crypto as well. So it's becoming a much bigger
global phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Has it arrived as a result of all of this?
Is this the tipping point or not?

Speaker 16 (17:36):
Look, I would suggest that the tipping point was when
the ets were approved in January, you know, when black
Rock and Fidelity and the biggest asset images in the world.
That the tip of approval finally, and then it's simply
just cascaded on from there.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Okay, explain to us for people who don't follow it.
The crypto, the digital currencies, the digital currencies that the
central banks are talking about.

Speaker 16 (17:58):
Yeah, so crypto is more open in free trading. It's
i'm a distributed network, which means that no one really
controls it. It's just software, whereas a central back digital
currency may or may not use the same sort of technology,
but it's controlled obviously by a central bank.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, yeah, I get that. But does the central bank
kill crypto or damage crypto?

Speaker 16 (18:22):
Well, it's a great question. Lots of people are thinking
about it. I think they will coexist if they come
to the fore Many countries are killing off the central
bank programs at the moment. In the US is obviously
the fore runner for that, but they're all kind of
asking why, and they can't really come up with a
good use case for why at the moment.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
What's the big deal for a person like you. Is
it the value of say bitcoin, and we go whoo
it's one hundred thousand, or is it the legitimacy that's
more important?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Well, fantastic question.

Speaker 16 (18:52):
Look, hundred k was kind of a mythical number that
was always set there, so for people who've been in
the industry a really long time, it's a big, big thing.
I think it's also one of these real validation steps
in a lifetime, and we'll look back at it and go,
that was the moment, so like it's a better both. Mike,
I think good stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
You go, well, I appreciate it very much. Paul Quickendon,
who's the Easy Crypto Chief commercial Officer, at nineteen minutes
away from seven, we feel good about the economy. Will
some of us do anyway? Forsyth bar Big survey past
three months. Firms much more optimistic, more than half. I
think the economy is headed in the right direction. Half
a budgeting for a better year ahead. They're seeing an
uptick in sales, very broad based as well, which is encouraging.

(19:36):
The Reserve Bank's got something to do with that. Retailer
is much more upbeat than expected. Retail businesses demand was
up nineteen percent in November. Construction not good, freight not good,
Manufacturing not good. But overall there is some light at
the end of the tunnel. So we'll take that, won't we.

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Poward Mike give yourself a Christmas presie for awesome work Ethereum.
Thanks top tip Mike Lowell one hundred and seventy two
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Mike talking time, I spent one hundred and seventy hours
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the competition, morning, Mike. These people are throwing out rookie numbers.
My eighteen year old son a mass two hundred and
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Speaker 1 (20:34):
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Speaker 2 (20:39):
So tid Richard, how are you doing well?

Speaker 9 (20:42):
Mike?

Speaker 17 (20:42):
I've seen best for the.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Holidays, and I've seen seen the latest photo. They've got
to be able to work out who he is, don't they.

Speaker 17 (20:48):
You'd think right killer has been unmasked partially please hunting
this murder of top insurance industry bus Brian Thompson outside
the New York Hotel have released these two new photos
showing at least part of the young man's They also
have gone to a hostel where the shoot ha stayed
for a couple of days. For most of that period
he kept on a black mast under his hoodie, but
at the front desk there were moments when he let

(21:09):
the mask slip, and so we have these photos in
the city of Cameras. There are now more and more
clues in this manhunted. Was apparent from the start, of course,
that this was a target of killing the gun and
was waiting for Brian Thompson as he was heading into
a hotel for an industry presentation. Then he shot him
several times in the back, fixing his gun when it
appeared to jam for a brief moment during the attack.

(21:30):
Police now have found some bullet casings and there are
messages on the bullets. They read delay, deny and depose.
So these appear to be references to the ways that
health insurance companies seek to avoid paying patients claims. The
company that this coo led, United Healthcare, has come in
for some fierce criticism at times from patients and lawmakers

(21:50):
and others for denial of claims. The victim's wife, Paulette,
has made a brief statement, Now.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Brian was a wonderful person with a big heart and
who've lived life to the fullest.

Speaker 17 (22:02):
She and her husband were separated some time ago. She
also has said that they had been threats to a husband,
but says she never knew any details.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Okay, well, so, where guys is Higgsith gunnis about?

Speaker 17 (22:15):
He's on thin ice, isn't he. Yeah, he's back on
Capitol Hill at the minute, trying to salvage the whole thing.
Senah Republicans are not talking because they never do on
these matters, but Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal says this about
the circumstance that Higgsith and I was facing.

Speaker 18 (22:30):
I've talked to five to ten Republicans who have said
to me they're just waiting for the right moment to
say no to Pete has said, and for very good reasons.

Speaker 13 (22:42):
Why do you think so few Republicans none by my count,
have been willing to come out and say they will
definitively not support this nominate.

Speaker 18 (22:49):
Nobody wants to defy Donald Trump.

Speaker 17 (22:52):
Higgs Sith says he spoke with Trump, who told him, hy.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Pete, I got your back.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
It's a fight.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
They're coming out a few get after it.

Speaker 13 (23:01):
Got you back.

Speaker 17 (23:02):
Well, there are reports that Trump has raised with his
campaign for Ron decentus that he might take the defense job. Also,
Trump has not been on the phones trying to persuade
Senators to support Higgsseeth. We hear as additional stories emerge
about drinking and mismanagement. The two small veterans group that
Heigseth was forced from wound up in pretty dire financial straits.

(23:23):
Heiseth says if he gets the top defense job, he
will no longer touch any alcohols.

Speaker 13 (23:28):
The biggest deployment of my life and there won't be
a drop of alcohol on my lips while I'm doing it.

Speaker 17 (23:34):
So is in alcoholic? Would he be awakened alert if
some defense crisis erupted after ours? His mom, of course,
also went on Fox News yesterday to vouch for him
after she wrote that letter years ago slamming his behavior.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
It is a new person. He's redeemed forgiven changed.

Speaker 17 (23:51):
So that's the first is and Mike likes of Don
rumsfeldtic Cheney never had their mums making television appearances like that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
One go well, Michael Ketchupe appreciate it as always. Richard
Arnold stateside for another year. By the way, there's always
one Mattel Remember we told you about Mattel. What was
maybe a couple of months ago. The Wicked kund of
have been a couple of months ago, maybe a month ago.
So Wicked came out and Mattel did some dolls. The
website on the box for the dolls was a porn site.

(24:19):
Holly Rickittson is the one who's hired a lawyer, gone
with the civil lawsuit overnight, so she bought the doll
for her daughter, who then went straight, of course, to
the adults website. They were horrified, quote unquote horrified by
what they saw. They suffered emotional stress. So the court
documents the pornographic website was an inexcusable error which rendered
the dolls unfit for their intended purpose. I don't know

(24:40):
whether we're going to do with the dolls. They also
claimed the company was not offering any refunds, and they've
suited for the five million dollars. That should rectify. I
think it was nicely. Eleven Away from seven.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Called the Mike hosting Breakfast with the Range Rover.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
The line News talks edb Mike, you get me out
of bed every morning. Absolutely love you show. You deal
with so many idiots, but still managed to present things
with clear eyes. Amazing case.

Speaker 15 (25:04):
Are they referring to me?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
I haven't well, Glenn of the Shoe Fits, I listened
to these enormous Spotify numbers. Mike can think get a life?
Ever read a real book? Well here comes the pushback.
Just small.

Speaker 15 (25:17):
You can actually listen to Spotify while you're reading a book.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Exactly was my point. So all my Spotify minutes are
either in the car or so I'm driving and listening,
or in the snooker hall, so you can do more
than one thing at a time. Jan Dawson, well done,
Port of Bokland Chairperson. This was the Deloitte Top two
hundred winners last night. So Jan is the Chairperson of
the year. Fonterra, perhaps not surprisingly, is the company of

(25:44):
the year. What they are doing for the New Zealand
economy far less the farmer needs needs to be dipped
in gold several times over most improved performance a two
milk good because they've been a story and so once
again Dairy farming Land Rural Chairperson of the Year. Jan
have told you about visionary leader Matt Anner and Nick

(26:04):
as in the Mowbrays, as in Zuru. So that's good.
They're a good story. Chief Executive the Year once again.
Not I wouldn't have thought surprising Miles Hurrel who has
taken that company. Not that the company was particularly troubled,
but old Tao. You know, really, if you want to
talk about whoops, did we really employ him? If you

(26:24):
want to talk about one of those stories, then Miles
comes along and he he's filled the place with rocket fuel.
Judges Recognition Award and much deserve goes to Oliver Hartwood,
the New Zealand Initiative. He is doing more good work
for this country than you realize if you're not, if
you're not reading what he writes, and the New Zealand

(26:45):
Initiative does some wonderful work, but he does a tremendous
amount of writing that you can easily access publicly, whether
it be on the Herald of various other websites, and
the amount of sense he has a very good insight
into Europe as well, being European himself, and Europe is
a place you want to watch, not any now, but
well into the next couple of years, given not only
the war but the sort of implosion of the place.

(27:06):
So he got the Judge's recognition awards, So well done
to all the winners. What we need in this country
are more winners five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
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Speaker 2 (27:22):
Best of news. It comes to us this morning from
the warehouse. They've done their annual Christmas survey and what
they found. A sixty six percent of us say we
wait until December to put the tree up. Nineteen percent
put it up in December first on December for first itself.
Twenty two percent do it in the first week of December.
Twenty percent of us put it up in November. We
did one at our house and that's been up since November.

(27:43):
It's a crap tree though it really is a crappy
little plastic It would have a half life. My guess
is of two hundred and seventy five thousand years, full
of so much Chinese plastic. It is really as rubbish,
but it works you've plug it in. It's an all
than one year hairy cresten Yes anyway, four percent say

(28:03):
they do it absolutely at the last minute. Twelve percent
say they won't put up a tree at all. Twelve
no are you putting up a tree. No, aren't you?
No Santa? Fifty seven percent, so they won't be leaving
anything out from fifty seven percent, You miserable bastards. Most
of us been Christmas at home. Fifty five percent have

(28:25):
Christmas at our house forty four percent, so they always
do it at someone else's house. Don't you hate those people?
I can't stand people like that. Ten percent go to
the beach or the batch, four percent go overseas, three
percent go camping. Present stockings. We love stockings. Who doesn't
love a stocking? Thirty six percent of people over eighteen

(28:48):
say they now receive a stocking with goodies in it,
while fifteen percent say they put together a stocking for
their pets. Thirty four percent say they don't do stockings
at all. They're the same people who go to other
people's houses and don't put up a tree. Spending wise,
thirty one percent and this is this is complete bs
as well, because we make this up. Thirty one percent
say they're planned to spend less. Forty eight percent say

(29:09):
they're going to stick to the same budget. That's rubbish.
On average, we're looking to spend three hundred and eighty
six nine percent plan to spend one thousand dollars or
more that whole I'm going to stick to a budget.

Speaker 15 (29:22):
I'm not they're saying that's what they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Oh yeah, No, Well apparent enough have you taken? As
I'm saying it now? Mark Mitchell? See the Christmas Grinch?
What happened here? Five hundred police officers and the new
He appoints a brand new police commissioner, allows him on
his first day to open a brand new police station.
Then he turns up at Scrutiny Week and he drops
the big bombshell. So what's happening with the five hundred?
Mark Mitchell? After the News which is next, he reduced
talk said, there.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
The breakfast show you can trust the mic Hosking Breakfast
with a Veta Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News togs head.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
B seven past seven. Scrutiny Week at Parliament's tossed up
some interesting material, hasn't it, some of which popped up
yesterday Around policing and crime. Government's promise of five hundred
year police officers within two years might be an issue.
Prison might be full, as it turns out as soon
as due next year. Both issues fall under the watchfully
of course of the Police and Corrections Minister, who is
Mark Mitchell as well this morning to you.

Speaker 19 (30:19):
Hey, good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Did Chambers drop you in it?

Speaker 4 (30:22):
No?

Speaker 19 (30:23):
No, not at all. He was one hundred percent right.
What he said is that number one I've been very
hot on as well. We're definitely not dropping standards. In fact,
quite the opposite. The curriculum at the Police College went
from sixteen weeks to twenty weeks for more training. We
remain committed to that target of ten seven hundred eleven

(30:44):
police officers trained by November twenty twenty five. But of
course we knew that was always going to be ambitious,
but we remain committed to it. We'll get as close
to it as we can as you.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Sit here this morning. Is he right in saying what
he said yesterday? It's probably twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
No.

Speaker 19 (31:01):
What they are talking about there is the funding, so
you've got to have funding in place. The funding is
the appropriation goes through to June twenty twenty sixth that's
what they were talking about. Everyone is absolutely committed and
still focused on delivering by twenty seventh and November twenty
twenty five. We know that it's aspirational. We know it'll

(31:22):
be tight, but we're committed to it. All the briefings
that I've had in Casey and the only reason why
Casey's talking to it, it's her delegation under the portfolio
is everyone is committed to it.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well, they're committed to it. But do you need more money?
And if you need more money, will more money be
coming or no.

Speaker 19 (31:39):
No, we don't need more money. All the money is there.
The money is there. We're just getting on with it.
And by the way, we've got a very strong pipeline
of police officers apply of people.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Pipeline.

Speaker 19 (31:50):
No, there's a strong pipeline there. And all the advice
that we've had is that we're on track. We know
that it was no, No, he's not wrong, he's one
hundred per right.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
What can we right in? You're you're on tracking, you're
not on track? Which is it? You're either on tracking
you're not mark.

Speaker 19 (32:06):
Well, we are on track, the police are on track.
That's the briefings of the information that we've had. And
I think what the Commission was saying, and I agree
with him, is that it's ambitious. We're not dropping standards. Absolutely,
we're not going to be doing that.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I get that you don't want to drop standards, but
when he says it's most likely to be the middle
of twenty six, if he's right in saying that, that's
a broken promise, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (32:28):
I think that he was talking about the funding runs
through June twenty six.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
All right, so you said here confidently this morning is
my Christmas present to the z B listeners. You will deliver.
I've promised five hundred by the end of next year.

Speaker 19 (32:40):
That is what our target is. That's what we're working towards,
and we remain focused on that.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
We've committed to that.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Okay, The thing is, there was the best and worst scenario,
you do we know which one it's going to be,
and if it's the worst, is that a problem?

Speaker 19 (32:56):
No? No, there's going to be plenty capacity in our
in our corrections system. They've done an outstanding job. They're
bringing more beds online. We've got I was down at
Wykiria last week. We're bringing six hundred and fifty more
beds online down there, and we turned the side for
the for the next stage of the project, which will
do a further eight hundred and ten dats. So no,
we will on. Well, we've got plenty of capacity. Corrections

(33:19):
have been doing an outstanding job. They are above the
rate of attrition. Now we've got lots of new corestians
officers coming in. We're actually in pretty good showe.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're not giving us any flannel for Christmas? Here are you?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
For goodness? Say you're not gilding the lily? Here are you?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
No?

Speaker 19 (33:32):
Not at all, but talking about Christmas, I actually wanted
to get you a gift, Mike. I've been on the
show for six years. Yes, I love being on the show.
Thank you for having me on again this year. But
what But what do you get a guy that's got everything?
And I thought, well, I said to Sarah what we
get Mike? She said, well, you know what about Camo
golf balls. I don't think he's a golf player. And
if you've got Camo golf balls, you've got to lose

(33:53):
it every time. No one's going to know you played
a crap shot. So thought, yeah, that's that's a good
present of someone that's got everything. But listen, Mike, can
I just say thank you to all the listeners that
tune in for politics Wednesday. It's been a huge door
opener for me around the country because of that common link.
And what's what's really been noticeable for me this year's

(34:14):
with my emergency management role, is that I've been to
eight local states for emergency and it's been a huge
door opener there for me. And there's already some sort
of trust that's been established because they feel like they
know me through the show. So I just wanted to
say thank you, thank you to see them and Glenn
wishing you guys are really merry Christmas. And to all
the listeners that tune in to the show but also

(34:38):
to politics Wednesday and Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Good on you mate, well done and you go well,
we'll catch up with you next year. And does same
to you of course. Marke Mitchell, Minister of Police and
Corrections twelve minutes past seven, asking Foodstuffs facial recognition trial
that's worked out well, they tell us. Of the twenty
five North Island stores that took part, harm was reduced
by sixteen percent. Thought the technology played a part in
preventing more than one hundred serious install incidents, and we're

(35:00):
talking things like assault. The evaluator from Skelatia Analytics. The
film director is Adam Barker, who's with us, Adam, morning
to you, but one of Mike, what your thought versus
what you got? Was it the same thing?

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (35:14):
It was pretty close. We anticipated about well, we were
hoping for at least a twenty percent production and harm
and what we have ended up with as a sixteen
percent production and harm.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And so where do you go from here? I mean,
if everyone agrees at work so more? Please? Is that
how it works?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
Well?

Speaker 6 (35:32):
From here? Our report has gone to food Stuffs and
then food Stuffs and turn has passed it on to
the Office of the Privacy Commissioner. It's currently in the
hands of the Privacy Commissioner now to make some decisions
around where they would like to try and see facial
recognition go next.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Is there a problem with it? I mean, how many
people actually moaned about having their face photographed, sword, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Not many, But I don't think that's there is clearly
a balance. It does need to be struck between privacy
impacts and the harm reduction that occurs. And one of
the important things that we tried to do in our
work was to assess the balance between those different impacts
and to understand what the public thought and what we
found in that work was that the sixteen percent reduction

(36:18):
is more than enough to justify the privacy impacts in
the view of most of the public.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Is the way of the future.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
Well, I guess I certainly feel like it should be
part of the mix of things that had done in
the future.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Good stuff, you go, well, Adam appreciate it very much.
Adam Barker, Sclety, Director, Trial Evaluator. If it works, it works.
Can't argue with that. Can you tell you what's working?
Auckland FC Local Derby Part two this weekend. You can't
get a tick of for love nor money. Actually I
think you can. You can get to the far end
of the field where you don't want to be, but
that's the bucks. But the good seats are all gone.
This thing's gone off. More on the football shortly fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
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Speaker 2 (36:59):
That'd be Sarah Luxan with us in what fifteen twenty
minutes sixteen minutes past seven, Part two of the local
Derby in the A League. Tomorrow Auckland FC hosts the Phoenix.
It's been an amazing start really for Auckland's debut season.
The CEO is Nick Becker, who's back with us.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Morning to you, morning Mike, if you're doing it very well.
Congratulating I think when we last had you on the program,
it was the beginning of the season and you might
have but we didn't know what was going to happen.
So congratulations on it all. I mean, it really is.
It's it's faultless, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
It's amazing.

Speaker 20 (37:26):
It's an incredible star And you know, I mean, if
you'd asked me if I thought this could happen, Oborously'd
absolutely no chance at all. So you know, we're blown
away and we're over the moon.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
What do you reckon? The magic is? Have you worked
that out yet?

Speaker 20 (37:39):
I mean a lot of hard work, a lot of
hard work, But no, I think I think Steve's a
fantastic coach. I mean he's actually just been He's just
one coach of the month for the A League, which
is to many other.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Contenders if you ask me.

Speaker 20 (37:51):
But he's done a great job and pulling together a
fantastic squad of young guys who we just all want
to go up and play for themselt sorry for each
other other than else, and so there's a real cohesive
unit out there, and you see it when they just
fight for every ball together, that are so strong.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
It's just a really it's a pleasure to watch.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And not putting to crass a point on it, but
the bottom line must be looking good, must And I
mean when you sell out, you sell up.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (38:15):
No, I mean that certainly helps. And you know, we're
sort of you know, we know we're not going to
sell every match. That's where we would like to build to,
and that's we'd like.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
To get to.

Speaker 20 (38:24):
But it certainly does help when you've got, well, the
first four matches, we're going to have close to eighty
thousand or police fans through the doors.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
So I mean, that's yeah, that's brilliant.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Do you are some of the younger, more inexperienced players
starting to feel the pressure, because of course, the better
you do, the higher you're going to fall eventually in
some way, shape or form, aren't you.

Speaker 16 (38:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (38:45):
But they, I mean, it's a bit of a cliche
and I'm not going to say they take it one
game at a time, but what they do do is
they set a challenge for each for themselves at each game,
and they build up to that, so they've sort of
focused on the one the one task at hand, which
I think really helps.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
Plus we've got a good mix of experience and the squad,
so you.

Speaker 20 (39:01):
Know, plans like the captain Heroki who's been to three
World cupster, who's absolutely legend and he just brings a
bit of calm in that dressing room and they look
to him and they see how professional he is and
it really helps them lift their game.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Fantastic. I'll tell you, I tell you what's interesting for me.
I'm not a big football fan, nothing against your sport,
but I've just got other sports I'm interested in. But
I am watching you because of what you are doing.
So that's ideally from the marketing, branding, whatever point of view,
that you can't ask them more than that, can you?

Speaker 4 (39:29):
No, you can't.

Speaker 20 (39:30):
And I think there's a lot of Auckland sports fans
who have come on that journey as well, and it's
great to hear that you've got on board.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Myths for status.

Speaker 20 (39:37):
You're always welcome to come along you need to get
to a game. But the I think there's a lot
of you know, because football has exploded, especially with the
kids in Auckland, and a lot of the parents have
a bit like yourself. They're like, well, I've never ready
followed football, but suddenly they're coming on, they're getting on
the journey and they're ride in the.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Roller coaster about her games.

Speaker 20 (39:55):
You know, we've been we've been winning, but we've been
scoring late, and so it's been quite They've been quite
tense games and you just see it in people's faces
in the crowd. It's quote, it's quite amazing to watch.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Fantastic. Well, I hope you're enjoying it. I'm sure you are. Nick,
go well, Nick Becker Auckland FC CEO, Mike, my Apprentice
is zero points zero zero one on Spotify. Thanks for
another great year of morning radio. I don't even have
a Spotify subscription, Mike. I still listen to music on
CDs and I've got two thousand of them. Mike, A
check my Spotify numbers. Can't believe you weren't on my
top podcast. I don't listen to podcasts on Spotify. That

(40:27):
might be part of it, I think, Mike, what's the
difference between city cameras watching behavior and facial recognition? I
was going to say that, but I didn't have time
at the end of the day, you realize you're being
filmed everywhere you go. Ask the bloke in New York
that they're currently chasing down at the moment of how
often you're photographed?

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Speaker 13 (42:08):
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Speaker 2 (42:10):
You know that you know the thing a liar and
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of course, but the party. For lord knows how long
Black Friday eight I mean in places like American Australia
spending like literally they never have New Zealand not so
much to Papa seven see seven and fifty thousand dollars
in two months on sales of tickets, proving revenue generation

(42:31):
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labor in orchust four. I mean, having run with it
in government, nothing changes in between. Now suddenly it's off
with no real explanation as to why not to a
dam eight five years and look at it? That is
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(42:52):
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million people might be worth looking at Zelenski six first
sign of concession. This thing will be negotiated away by
this time next year, siriapour. If a stard goes, that'd
probably market higher. But then what's next to I mean,

(43:13):
is it any better?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Really?

Speaker 2 (43:14):
At seven? I mean that's what you get when your
ear is ten and arrogance's next level? Eden Park nine?
More events they announced? Gosh, who would have thought that
was a good idea? More events? Molowanui won? Does it
get any more comedic? Are the Supreme Court seven putting
an activist ap peel Court in its place? Fro tier nine.

Speaker 12 (43:38):
Bucks?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
And I'm not sure there isn't even more where that
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sound like that.

Speaker 15 (43:47):
Glence, Well do we know what it sounds like?

Speaker 12 (43:49):
Salary?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
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it once again produced at least a couple of illuminating
fact it's not least of which was tax treatment for charities.
Tax treatment on charity sex good because there are charities
and then there are charities. And that is the week
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(44:11):
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see you through the holiday season. ASKI the magic Mike
is a billionaire? You speaker Bill Foley, of course with
the Auckland FC. It's not the fact he's a billionaire,
it's the fact I think he's clearly got because this
is not a first radio or sports team. He's got
a thing. He's obviously got a recipe that works, and
probably the recipe that works is how he became a billionaire.

(44:34):
Morning Mike, we're one of the four percent traveling overseasc
in London. Craig, have a good time. I hope it
snows for you, and I hope you manage a book.
A four hundred and fifty pound lunch, four hundred and
fifty pounds per person. That was my probably my revelation
of the year. Four hundred and fifty pounds per person
for Christmas lunch in a flash hotel in London, for
goodness sake, Mark Mitchell, Mike comes across as authentic and
genuine and yet making real progress in his portfolio. I

(44:55):
tend to agree I like Mike. I mean, I'm biased,
obviously because he's on the program every Wednesday. But having
said that, you can't fault him for kicking a bit
of rear end and getting things moving in that particular department.
And I think we all do we not feel a
little bit better about crime and society as a result
of his presence. The Prime Minister is but moments away

(45:15):
after the news which is next.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
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Speaker 2 (45:29):
Three minutes away from the Kadie do the Week for
the final time this year after eight o'clock meantime. Given
it's the first of season Prime Minister drops in to
say hello and goodbye. Nice to see Nice to see you,
to see you. Do you want the serious stuff first?
A couple of serious things since I talked to you
on Tuesday. Scrutiny week. Broadly speaking, is it worth it
or not?

Speaker 13 (45:47):
Well, I mean it's an innovation from Parliament. That's I
think the first time we've been doing it. Look, I
think anything that tries to give people more visibility as
to what's going on transparency is probably worth it. I
haven't checked in with my guys as to how they
found it, but you know, look, I think that's not
a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Okay. Have you seen the OECD report on New Zealand
this morning? I haven't seen it. It's a doer Yeah,
it is a doer story. So our projected growth for
next years one point four percent twenty twenty six is
two point one percent. The world is at three point three,
so we're trailing the world. New Zealand also faces an
investment gap in addressing the needs of a rapidly growing population.
This is essential to tackle low productivity growth and high

(46:23):
electricity fuenture prices. Labor productivity growth has fallen markedly since
twenty twenty one. GDP growth has been driven by an
expansion of labor. Most of the people coming to this
country are low and medium skilled people. High bank margins,
capital costs, reduced demand for credit, high futures, electricity prices
will exacerbate productivity problems and so it goes.

Speaker 13 (46:41):
I mean, that's a bad what a marvelous set of
challenges to deal with more well.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I mean, to get yourself. I mean, I'm not sitting
here blaming you. I've only been over a year, but
I mean that's but it's dead right right.

Speaker 13 (46:49):
I mean, if you think about it the last thirty years,
what we've had as a productivity disease, you know, we've
been in the bottom quarter basically of economic productivity. That
means that we're all working for and hard, but we're
actually not able to create the value you that we
need to be able to have a high stander living.
And you know, you think about places like Ireland and
Denmark and Singapore and New South Wales, State's other five
million type people places When you say why are they

(47:11):
wealthier to us? And I've studied this through about twenty years,
it comes down to about five things. It's education, it's science, technology, innovation,
what you're seeing at Fonterra where they're really adding lots
of value to their product services. It's definitely infrastructure. We've
got a hell big problem there through red tape and
obviously trade and investment, and you know we've got thin
pools of capital. You know, we've done a very poor
job of attracting foreign investment to this country. The mentality

(47:34):
has been, you know, welcome to New Zealand, but you
know it's a privilege for you to invest here, versus
we should be saying thank you for bringing your money here.
And we're thirty eighth out of thirty eighth in the
OECD to heat attracting foreign investment as well.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Do you think most people we've talked about this is
a theme a number of times this year, do you
think most people truly understand how troubled this country is.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
No.

Speaker 13 (47:54):
And I know when I've sort of said how much
damage was done in that six year period, you get
over that, Like the reality is I now own it
and we've got to fix it and deal with it.
But you know, we've got to get the long term
foundations in place. When you have forty five percent of
your kids going to school regularly and fifty five percent not,
which is what happened when we started. You're sitting there going, well,
England's sitting at eighty two percent, we're sitting at forty

(48:16):
five percent. Well, how are we supposed to be competitive
with England and with Australia and with Canada and other
places that we think are like minded places. So we
can't sort that stuff out. If you're four out of
your five kids arrive at high school not where they
need to be on maths and one out of two
where they need to be on reading, that's serious stuff, right,
because that, seriously is about how you get the leaders
and artificial intelligence and agri science and four lane highways

(48:36):
up to Fungo A and engineers and all that good
stuff if you don't get those things sorted the same
on investment and infrastructure, we've managed infrastructure very very poorly.
You know, we run the country like it's nineteen seventy
five and we have to think about how we do
infrastructure very differently.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Do you think the mentality see one of one of
the things of the media's fault as much as anything else.
There is no shortage of people in your time and
office who genuinely believe that you are the answer to everything.
For money, we're sure of money. This didn't work, that
didn't work, the government will wipe my bum So that's
the mentality in this country that only a government can
fix it. The idea of working hard, doing better, improving

(49:10):
yourself is beyond most people. That's what we've got it.

Speaker 13 (49:13):
That is exactly the notion we have to put in place,
because I will I had it last night. I was
talking to someone in the healthcareist sector and I was
just saying all the differences between New South Wales and
New Zealand. You know, they're thirty five percent wealthier than
New Zealand. Now, so if you don't build out a
better quality economic engine, you can't deliver the public services
that people have expectations of. Ireland's a case study. I've
been there a few times now and I went there

(49:35):
to study education and also how they do infrastructure development
and investment. That was a country that had seventy five
percent of the wealth of New Zealand, same per person,
same sized country. Now twice as wealthy as excelland so
you get twice as many at GPS, you get twice
as many teachers so you know, when I talk the economy,
it's not because I'm focused on money and I'm a
commercial guy. It's actually because what that enables is actually

(49:55):
a better healthcare system, better infrastructure system, better school system.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Ok, well, you've got two more years, I guess to
sell it to us. Having said that, a bit longer
than two more years, it seems it seems weird. It
seems weird to me. It was only a year ago
this time last year year at the quarter of the hotel.
It seems it seems longer ago than that, doesn't it
or not?

Speaker 13 (50:12):
It does feel that to me. But I guess that's
with every week just goes by, you know, so quickly,
and a lot happens in a week, as well as
my observation, and you don't really have time to digest
because you're just moving things forward to reflect that much.
And I'll probably get a chance to do that over
summer a little bit. But but yeah, it's been a
fall on twelve months. But it's been a great twelve months.
I mean, I've thoroughly enjoyed it, you know, because you're

(50:34):
in the mix, you're in the arena, sort of pulling levers,
making choices, making decisions.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
I found it not position you didn't get to. It's
an interesting point. My criticism of you would be you've
not gone hard enough. But take that for whatever else.

Speaker 13 (50:45):
Do you feel it would be a standard criticism I
would have thought from you.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Do you feel like you are in a job that
you thought it would be something where you could make
genuine change and you are doing it?

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (50:58):
I do, actually like I I genuinely think that the
opposition job is really hard, right And I remember looking
at it and thinking about all the leaders that we've had
of the National Party. They're all on a photo in
the wall at National House, which is the head office
of our party, and I think there's only six that
have won elections, and there's a number of that were
you followed on from leaders that at the end of terms.
But you know, it's a hard job because you don't

(51:20):
have anything to do, you know. But now as a prominency,
that's the job you want because you can actually pull
the levers and in the center you have to be
really brutally clear and directive when you're doing a turnaround,
and otherwise by the time it ripples out through the system,
change doesn't happen. And there's a lot of things. I mean,
you can and you can get very lost in it
if you don't have great clarity and choose what you
are doing and what you're not doing right now, because

(51:42):
otherwise you're boiling the ocean. You're just bumper stickering your
way through it and papering over the cracks and actually
not doing things properly. And you know, we've got some
real challenges, you know, there's no doubt about it. But
we have to you know, we want to try right.
We have to get to a better place.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Explain to a person like me who would criticize you
for not going hard enough or hard do than you are.
Do you believe you're going as hard as you can
or have you discovered something that prevents you from going
further than you have?

Speaker 13 (52:07):
The problems are more complex often than they feel, you know,
just when you do a observing them from outside. So
when you get inside the problem that takes you a
bit of you know, they're quite complex by the time
they come your way. But no, look, I think we are.
I mean you've got to. I mean, look, you've got
two choices out on the economic front. You could carry
on doing exactly what the last lot did, which would
spend more, tax more, borrow more, not deliver. Or you

(52:29):
could go what we've seen around the world, which isn'to
hard austerity, and that's not good either. That has got
a whole bunch of consequences and implications. And we are
generally trying to find that third way through which I
think we've done well, and Nicola and I working through
the budget process where we actually are giving people tax relief,
you're able to actually put some investment into the future infrastructure.
But we're going to need for infrastructure for someone. We

(52:51):
are going to need outside pools of capital because we
can't just use our balance sheet and weight to get
roads built in twenty sixty. We have to do things sooner.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
That's funny you should say that because Sullivan's got a
piece of the paper this morning. It deals with you
met Larry Fink, Yeah, at Black black Rock, at the
same company that pulled the plug the other day on
Soul zero. So do you want to mend or not?
I mean, are they the sort of people we want
to deal with?

Speaker 13 (53:11):
Well, the point is that around the world there is
trillions of dollars of sovereign wealth money right like basically
it's inter I think I told you like us. You
had dinner with Mody, and he says he's got a
new university he's opening every week. He needs something like
two thousand plans. So you think about the hundreds of
millions of people coming out of poverty who now moved
from subsistence living into the middle class, and they want
to go travel, they want to go get educated for

(53:33):
their kids, and they actually want to save the money
for retirement. Well, all of those funds need to be invested.
So everywhere I go, if overseas, I take two hours
and I go bring them the biggest investors from those
countries and meet with them for lunch. But is the
money they are open to wanting to invest. I want
their money, and the problem is the middleware, which is
actually they don't know what's here to invest in. And
we need to basically put deal sheets together to actually say, look,

(53:56):
we've got a whole bunch of roads, we've got a
whole bunch of other assets that are a level to you,
and we've got to change some of the settings, which
we're working our way through. So I do think, Mike,
there is actually the doors open. We just got to
push it open and barge through it.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Do you I need to take a break and we will,
but think about this during the break. The Spotify rap
of yours Yeah, are you a fraud? You more more
in a moment facing away from.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
The Mike asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Power
by News Talks.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
It be eleven away from my prime minister for the
last couple of months, just a couple of quick things.

Speaker 13 (54:32):
So that was quite an accusation you made before that It.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Wasn't to be fair. I thought that you were elevated
to prime Minister of this country based on your love
of country music, and so then I see the Spotify
rap and there's next to no country music on it.

Speaker 13 (54:44):
Yeah, well there is actually, Like I mean, post Malone
and du A Lipa did a great song Think I'm
in Love with You, Like, if you do one thing, Mike,
You've got three things to do for me over the holidays.
One is you've got to listen to F one trillion,
which is Post Malone's country collaboration album Brilliant, the best
album of the year. I Think I'm in Love with You,
which is Chris Stapleton song. But he did a duet
with Dua Lipa, which is just unbelievable song of the year.

(55:05):
And the third thing I think you need to do
is actually need to watch Day of the Jackal, which
is with any TV.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Plus and plus. Because they're losing so much.

Speaker 13 (55:14):
Money, we're doing everything we can to make them more profitable.

Speaker 12 (55:19):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Now the present I have for you open this is
this is a prototype. This is first of all, it's
one of one, so it's unique.

Speaker 13 (55:30):
This sounds special.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
It's a prototype, and there is a I believe bigger
and if not more bigger, a more luxurious version of
this coming.

Speaker 13 (55:40):
So so as that sort of like driving gloves or something.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Well they're not no, they're not driving. They're not driving gloves.
But I'm not allowed to drive anymore. I think you'll
be I think you'll be impressed. No one has ever
been given one of these because it doesn't exist anywhere
else in the world.

Speaker 13 (55:53):
Oh look, it's the Complete Guide to Surviving and Mike
Hoski interview.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
So look for the instructions. That is genius.

Speaker 13 (56:03):
That is genius.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
So we'll get a leather bound version of that when
it's completed.

Speaker 13 (56:09):
It's a total mystery to me. Twelve months after having
done these interviews. Can I give you my guests?

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Yes you can.

Speaker 13 (56:15):
You can, all right, so keep the beg that you
get a beautiful card. This is that you are the
very first person that I have given this card to you.
It's a lovely photo of myself stunning wife Amanda. It's
got a handwritten note inside.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
So there you go.

Speaker 13 (56:31):
You can be on the string that you put in
the office.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
That's that's an awesome photo. Is that taken in front
of your hedges?

Speaker 13 (56:36):
Yeah, that's in front of the hedges at home. I
know you appreciate a good fighters hinge.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
I love a good fus.

Speaker 13 (56:43):
This is this is your fear of khaki seasoning. Now,
I mean it's for your listeners. Most of us will
just use you know, people like me who are men
of the people. No, of course I just used soult.
I mean I come from a very humble background and
and just but you look at this and this is
what really posh people. It's like seasoning. And I think
you've got like I think it's like a seaweed that
gets sort of extracted in some complicated process up north

(57:06):
for out carped Sultan.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, you've put that on your food.

Speaker 13 (57:10):
Yeah, I know, it's just that's what I've read about.
You put it on your pokey bowl and you smashed
avocado toast and stuff like that. I imagine you sit
around you and your pajamas.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I love it absolutely.

Speaker 13 (57:19):
And then the other thing is you often comment when
I come in with my water bottle. I'm sort of
you say, Chris Watson, the water and why is it?
And you sort of accused me of it being a
sort of your own sum at one points and all
sorts of things. But I brought you this is my
special energy voost. Now, this is posh Baroka basically is
what you're getting here. And sometimes I come in and
you're a bit grumpy and sometimes you're happier, And I
just think if you put that into your day, that

(57:40):
would be translate.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
You're glad, you're a good bloke. I'm going to enjoy
that over the holiday period. I'll be a whole new
man on the boose next year. You and Amanda and
Kents and everything. You have a lovely Christmas. Mates, have
a great break. Take care see Christopher likes ate away
from it.

Speaker 12 (57:56):
The host rest with us.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Mike Luxon sounds and laughs like a chap, I'd want
to have a beer with his networking skills must be
up there. He's a pleasant like. I mean all politics aside.
I mean to be fair. One of the things you
learned after being in the radio for about a thousand
years is that most of them were the odd exception
a decent people. Mike, thanks for sharing your expertise and
brilliant throughout the year. The hard working dedications are valuable.
You're very kind. You're going to be nice to lux

(58:23):
and this time, Mike, well, I think you just saw reasonably.
But then OECD report, by the way, which hasn't got
the he hasn't got any coverage this morning. You haven't
heard it. But this OECD report on New Zealand is
it is dire. What it says about us now often
you know you don't have to take it. It's an
international organization that looks at us and maybe they know
what's going on. Maybe they but the points they make
about productivity and the points they make about the high

(58:46):
futures and electricity will exacerbate productivity problems. We should re
examine separating the generation and retail operations of large electricity companies.
School education reforms should continue. So they're seemingly suggesting that
we might be on the right track, slowly but surely.
But there's some stuff yet to do, and that gentail

(59:06):
retailer thing in the power industry. The banking industry is
an ongoing issue. They specifically cite high bank margins, capital cost.
There's a lot to worry about in this country as
we go to the summer break, and a lot to
be done. So news for you in a couple of moments,
and then we will do the week with Tim and Katy.
You're on myc Hosking.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
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Speaker 2 (59:44):
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Speaker 12 (59:48):
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Speaker 2 (59:51):
Davy play. This could be quite good. I'll come back
to it in a moment.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
But not.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Everyone's enjoying the festive season. Here's macrom Why did they
act like that?

Speaker 21 (01:00:02):
It's I don't. They don't think about you, your difficulties
at the end of the month, your projects. Let's be honest.
They think about one thing to their presidential election, to
prepare it, to provoke it, to bring it on more
quickly and it's cynical. It fits, let's say, and there's
a sense of chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
You're not happy. You're speaking to the French people as
we speak. This is Jennifer Hudson. It's called The Gift
of Love. Three years after her first holiday album, and
it's the first album overall since twenty fourteen when she
debuted to the world. Anyway. It is produced by Ryan Tedda,

(01:00:46):
who we had on the program a couple of years ago,
A nice guy. Also David Foster, Leonard Cohen, Teller Luo.
They all do it as leaguing.

Speaker 15 (01:00:56):
Later on in the site. We can't play it all
because it goes on for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
It's a note that you can't believe that I can't believe. Well, well,
isolate out that note and we'll have it later on
the pregram. You're right, six forty five long A two
degrees still willis the.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Week in review with two degrees fighting for fair for
Kiwi business, God bless them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Tim morning, good stuff, Katie. How are you?

Speaker 19 (01:01:21):
I'm excellent?

Speaker 22 (01:01:22):
How are you? You must be excited no more alarms.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Boss just asked me that, he said, are you excited?
And we were taking bets off air. I didn't participate
because I'm not allowed to bet because you've told me
I can't, But we were taking bets off your air
as to when I would utter the first words G,
I wouldn't mind getting back on the radio.

Speaker 22 (01:01:41):
Yeah, Jason, and I usually take that bet every summer too,
because you're like, I'm so exhausted, I'm so ready for
a break, and then about five minutes into your holiday
you're like, yeah, no, I've got stuff to say. I'm
ready to go back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 22 (01:01:52):
Have some sleep for goodness sake exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Anyway, how are you going to what's the what's the
situation at your workplace visa the Christmas parties?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Well, ye, look, I've actually I'm investigating this because of
obviously the public sector, but I was actually thinking about
our Christmas party, the wrap the week Christmas party on Monday,
and I think we've got the lowest price per head
in terms of it's coffee. It's a DCF. I'll have
a DCF five point fifty. You're not planning on having
a muffin though, are you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
I'm not actually planning on being there.

Speaker 22 (01:02:24):
What, don't worry them, I'll drag them along, so you're
drag them alone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Three coffees and a muffin, so you're talking, we could
probably come scraping under twenty five, couldn't we twenty five
bucks for three people?

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
You behead?

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
We could do twenty We painted that ourselves. The company
doesn't self fund it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:46):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Something we probably need to k the public. This is
what the public sector. This is how the public sector
needs to learn to run stuff. You do it yourself.
You don't rely on other people. So three coffees in
a muff and we'll say Merry Christmas, and that'll be
us for another year, and we'll we'll be happy and satisfied,
won't we.

Speaker 22 (01:03:02):
Well, we probably have a certain age where we don't
really need to get ourselves completely hammered and you know,
dance on tables.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Do you think that ever happened? Katie? Did you ever
go see when I joined radio in the in the eighties, Yes.

Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
It did happen.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I mean, didn't your chief executive do a show you
at one of the Christmas parties?

Speaker 22 (01:03:21):
You told me a famous story about one of your
radio Christmas parties where someone fell through the ceiling.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
No, that wasn't a Christmas No, that's a good story.
That wasn't a Christmas party. That was just a regular
day at the office. That was towards the end of
the year, and they might have been having a party
for two But that was a fantastic story at Radio Windy.
And the thing about Radio Windy, which is no longer
in existence now, is that it had those ceilings where
you have actually, as I look up, we've got these ceilings,

(01:03:48):
so you know, the ceilings with individual boards. Ye, right,
and you can take the board out and climb into
the roof. Anyway, they fell out of the ceiling in
a certain position into reception, into reception, inter reception. But
those were the glory days of radio. Nothing like that's

(01:04:09):
ever happened since. And I do I do believe that
when you talk to the older members of the broadcasting community,
they all go down that track.

Speaker 12 (01:04:17):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I remember when where you were right like that, And
of course I don't even know that it ever really happened, to.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Be honest, No, I did Mega magazines. I used to
go go out to lunch with Bill Rolston on a Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Friday with Bill Rolston. That's not Christmas Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 12 (01:04:35):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
When you have a lunch that lasts for eighteen hours,
you know you've had lunch?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Eighteen are you?

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Says eighteen so far.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Came twelve o'clock bell from noon from noon. We used
to because the rest of the company used to do,
used to be Australian Consolidated Press. They'd have informal Friday.
But because we were sort of a bit hoiity toyy,
we'd have formal Friday. We go out for lunch and yeah,
I came. I came to my senses dancing to a
heavy metal song.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
It might have been Motorhead at six am in a
nightclub on Queens Stream.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Thought that was a time to go fantastic. Do you want?
Do you want slipknot tickets for Christmas? Codie?

Speaker 22 (01:05:16):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
But guess what.

Speaker 22 (01:05:17):
Guess what excitement I got this morning with my Spotify
ract because I heard you promoing Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I'm dying, I am dying to hear happy.

Speaker 22 (01:05:25):
I hadn't even looked at it, so I jumped on Spotify.
Do you know I'm in the top six percent of
listeners worldwide?

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
It doesn't surprise me because I was saying earlier all
of our music and it's may throughout the day and
on the weekend, is driven out of your Spotify account. Therefore,
because we have music on all the time, every day,
every hour of every day then and it comes from
exclusively your phone, then I'm not surprised at that. So
what do you what do you want to give us?
The number?

Speaker 22 (01:05:54):
Forty three seven and twenty eight minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Forty three thousand? Do you believe season?

Speaker 22 (01:05:59):
I actually think it was too bad?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
No, But that puts you did you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
Think what do you think it would be?

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Well? I had text this morning from over one hundred
thousand minutes and somebody claimed to und in twenty thousand minutes,
So I think that's b yes, because I know how
much music we listened to it at forty three thousand,
they cannot be listening to five times more music than But.

Speaker 22 (01:06:17):
Did you get because your top artist was Luke Holmes,
wasn't it? And my top artist was Joshua Raddon? And
then as I clicked through, I gotta you get this
video message for him?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yes, yeah, that's so cute.

Speaker 22 (01:06:27):
The thanking the Spotify fans for like listening.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Well, i'll tell you that's that's coming out. That's that's
an aiicon, and I'll tell you about that in the moment.
More shortly, fourteen past eight, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
It be and now I can't remember what order we
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Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Macron said he's gonna, you know, do the mandate and
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next couple of days. In the coming days was his word.
Here's the note from Jennifer Hudson that's on Normally you

(01:07:23):
under sell stuff when you didn't und to sell that.
Tim and Katie are with us, by the way, with
the we're not running a slip knock contest people or
the people ringing up saying can I have slipknot take
because we're not running a slipknot contest? Jeez, two hundred
and three kdie where were we?

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
What was the thing?

Speaker 12 (01:07:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yeah, sorry, So it's it's what it is is. When
my artist was Luke Holmes. And then it suddenly it goes, oh,
it seems that we're not alone, and then boom, your
favorite artist comes up with a message. In my case,
it's Luke Calmes. Now the problem with Luke Holmes's message,
it was a very neeric message and it's two Australians.
He says, I tell you what I'm I'm coming to
Australia next year. I'm looking forward to being in Australia.

(01:08:06):
And I thought, mate, I'm not in Australia. And so
they've obviously not quite regionalized it out to a point
where it feels like an individual message. What was yours, Caddie?
Who was it from Joshua Radin?

Speaker 22 (01:08:16):
Yeah, And he was just basically thinking, he didn't he
didn't do a specific region. He was just, hey, thank
you so much for listening to so much of my music.
I just so I appreciate you know, fans, and blah
blah blah, and this is what I'm doing and thank
you for sharing it and enjoying it. And I make
it because you love it.

Speaker 17 (01:08:29):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
So what we want is the first person who has
their number one artist who didn't have a message on Spotify,
because they can't have gone to every artist in the
world and gone a message, can they. Yeah, see, if
your top artist was Beethoven, they would have struggled, surely.

Speaker 22 (01:08:46):
But I wonder if the really big tailor.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
What but she would have done one? Of course she
would have.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
Can I Can I tell you guys about my track
of the year. Yeah, okay, so it's not it's not
on Spotify by a by an artist called It's by
an artist called Wolfi Wilson and I've been talking about
this track quite a bit lately. He's well, he created something.

(01:09:12):
So a few weeks back, he was doing his piano
practice and he had to practice when the Saints go
marching in you know, when the Saints go marching.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
So he did that very reluctantly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, it doesn't, doesn't doesn't love the piano practice thing.
Then he goes outside and he grabs his trident that
he got for Halloween, and he was playing with his
trident to your Wolfie, I'm just talking about you on
the radio. Wolf is just he's just coming to say goodbye.
So Grabs has tried and seems to perk up a bit.
Then walks through the door and swings it between his

(01:09:43):
legs and starts to strut going when my diddle becomes
a trident, When my diddle becomes a trident, and you
just think. You look at your spouse, your bride, and
you say, this is your side of the family, this
is where this comes from.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
There's something wrong fully, Ron boys. I thought I thought
it was he was going to play as a fabulous
rendition of when the Saints go marching in. But no,
it wasn't that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
By the way, Mike, to recreate Bethoven of Beethoven sent
a message.

Speaker 15 (01:10:15):
Because you know how they did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
But they did Richard the third, Yes, yes, who was it? Yeah,
so Bethoven.

Speaker 15 (01:10:21):
Yeah, this is the Ai Bethoven.

Speaker 12 (01:10:23):
Eh, that might be that mummy probably.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Hey listen you guys, thank you for the year and
tuning up each and every Friday.

Speaker 22 (01:10:36):
Hey, thanks to you hard yards.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
But yeah, but you work hard, hard with you you're right? No,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
No, you put in a lot of effort. I don't
think you congratulations, you work.

Speaker 22 (01:10:45):
Twenty four seven, so you deserve a break.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Absolutely, and big shout outs to Glenn who had the
best lines and of course unacknowledged engine of the show,
Sam a fan of luxury chocolate and bullying victim.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
That's one of the weirdest things of the year. Ext
I remember Sam's weird drive to South Auckland. I know
and as freshly important Japanese mist and gtr to buy
unbelievable amounts of chocolate from a strange woman behind a door,
under the guise of it being called Dubai chocolate or
something like that. It's you know, I don't even think
that we got to the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
We love them.

Speaker 22 (01:11:19):
Thank you Sam, thank you Glenn, and thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Katie, and thank you Tim. And Merry Christmas and happy Holidays.
We'll see you see at the Christmas party. At the
Christmas Party. Eight twenty one.

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Travis Scott fans. No message okay, sister got one from Taylor,
So no message from Travis Scott Beastie Boys was my
number one My question why anyway? No message and nothing
from Zach Bryant, which is interesting because Zach Bryant's one
of the hot names of the year, think Skies and
all that. I think that's my song of summer? Was
that my song of summer? I believe it was my

(01:13:02):
song of summer. Listen out over Summer for pre recorded
messages from me about my song of Summer's fantastic. You
won't want to miss that.

Speaker 15 (01:13:10):
Like an AI generated, very very.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Similar to AI. Could be AI Glynn actually could be
the introduction of the AI. Mike Hosking boss has been
working on that for the last two years. He's desperate
to get me out of here. It's so close and
as soon as he gets the technology to AI me
the hell out of this place, I'm gone. So we'll
see where that's gone.

Speaker 15 (01:13:29):
We try doing ME and it just melts down every.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Time doesn't work. I've got three councils and three concerns,
and I'll come back to them after eight thirty and
probably after Murray. And if my time management is anything
like it has been for most of the year. I'll
probably not get too the story at all. What was
he talking about other councils. I don't know. He never
got to it as usual, But when we're are most

(01:13:53):
of the time tickets exactly one of them's stuff I
didn't do. That's a whole new segment, isn't it stuff
he didn't do that? He said he would. Queenstown, Horror,
Finua and Nelson anyway, more.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Up to it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
We've got this no for is this just more of
her more more general? Anyway? News is next to the mood.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Wonder setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life your
Way news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
If you haven't heard it, there's been an earthquake off
the coast of California. It's a seven, so it is
off the coast, which is good. But there is a
tsunami warning and a five million piece so this is
all unfolding. So we'll just see whether the tsunami warning
comes to anything, how deep it was, how much, if
any damage there is. Will keep you posted on that
are more excellent education newsed to end the year, are

(01:15:05):
barely half the teenagers who tried to pass the critical
NCEEA literacy and numerousy benchmark via some online tests this
year have succeeded. These are the final results. Qualifications Authority
published the results September round of tests. They show more
than one hundred thousand students attempted at least one of
the tests over the two rounds, with more than eighty
thousand sitting each subject. They had pass rates of fifty

(01:15:26):
five percent and numeracy sixty six percent, in writing seventy
percent and reading. Students must pass all three before they
receive NCA qualifications. Mind you, Australias no better as I
read this week twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
See that Murray? How are you?

Speaker 12 (01:15:45):
Good morning? Michael? Pretty well this week? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
And did you see that piece yesterday floating around the
gap between boys and girls and maths and sciences? Gargantua
And this is the pins getting worse. It's just hopeless,
it's getting worse. We sort of beat ourselves up in
this country in many respects. We deserve to, because we've
wrecked the wricked the joint. But the more I look
at Australia, the more you've wrecked the place as well.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
Well.

Speaker 23 (01:16:09):
Education attainment has been going backwards for many years, only
going to look as we've got these.

Speaker 12 (01:16:14):
Annual tests nap Land.

Speaker 23 (01:16:15):
They're called yeah, I don't know what that stands for,
but national sort of education and we benchmark ourselves over
here against other OECD countries, and sadly Australia is low
and getting lower.

Speaker 12 (01:16:28):
And I don't know what the answer is.

Speaker 23 (01:16:30):
I mean, I think maybe if you look at Finland,
they've got every teacher. I believe in Finland, every teacher
does their degree and then a master's on top of
that and paid appropriately. They actually get decent salaries in
Finland to teach, and that's why Finland is at the
top or very near the top of all these OECD tables,
not the case in Australia where teachers are living on

(01:16:51):
kansa baked beans along with police officers and nurses for goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
So yeah, exactly. Hey, this poll this morning where they've
done the seat by seat analysis, tell you what next
year is going to be fantastically interesting in as an election,
isn't it?

Speaker 12 (01:17:05):
Oh no, kidding, absolutely right.

Speaker 23 (01:17:07):
I said to you start of this year, no way
known Dutton, you can start now.

Speaker 12 (01:17:10):
He's not going to win.

Speaker 23 (01:17:11):
I don't think he's going to win either next year,
but it's going to be there's I mean, I'm not
sure he can get a bet now on a hung parliament.
That's exactly what it's looking like with the Greens, the
Teals and other ragtag minorities. Perhaps you know, giving the
vote to either side in a split house.

Speaker 12 (01:17:29):
I mean, wouldn't that be interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
What it would be? Let me ask you this question,
given people people don't follow politics in Australia, say Dunton
ends up a couple of seats shorter majority, Are there
Independence and Teals that would side with him? Or could
Labor be short and have a better chance with more
you know people they can pick up along the way.

Speaker 12 (01:17:49):
I think the latter.

Speaker 23 (01:17:51):
I mean, Peter Dutton is just so unpopular right, He's
just a polarizing figure. There's not much love for the
right wing over here. But I tell you what, look
at the collapsing numbers for labor and there's not.

Speaker 12 (01:18:02):
Much love for the left either.

Speaker 23 (01:18:04):
And you know, it would be a brave person to say, well,
the Teals won't get even better results, like whenever Albanezi
calls the election next year could be March, it could
be as late as May, and the Teals might even
improve their position.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Yeah's agree. I see the Teals as if you put
a gun to their head, as more left than right.
Is that fair or no yet?

Speaker 8 (01:18:25):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:18:25):
No, I think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Yeah, yeah, And so therefore Labor could do something with them,
the Greens would be Labor. So you really the coalition
are stuck with what you would argue, say, true independence
that may have a sort of a conservative bent to them.

Speaker 12 (01:18:39):
Well, I'm thinking, you know, the likes perhaps Bob Catter.

Speaker 23 (01:18:42):
You know, he's a very stranger individual from up far
north Queensland. If you had to, you know, go into
the tranches with Bob Catter, he would be a conservative,
no doubt about it. But you've got so many others
who are left or left leaning. The Greens very much
chastened after what happened to them in the Queensland state election.
They folded like a pack of cards in the last

(01:19:04):
week of the Federal Parliament and pasted all the bills
that Labor wanted past a year ago they'll be holding
out and being well hollier than now. Well they sniffed
the wind and thought, bloody hell, we're going to get
cream next year at the federal election if we keep
this up. So the Greens are going to be absolutely chastened,
and I would suggest very firmly behind Labor. No one
wants Peter Dutton to win except Peter Dutton.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
You look at the economy though, and this is where
governments do lose when you look at your liber standards.
You look at the reports out this week that says
the economy grew anemically and the only reason it grew
was because of government spending. And if you do it
on a per head of population basis, you're going backwards.
No government wins a term when that's your economy.

Speaker 23 (01:19:46):
And that's exactly what we saw in the United States.
Cost of living. You know, that's a very potent line.
Are you better off than you were three years ago?
In Australia's case, four years ago for Trump? And it
worked for Trump and there's no reason why it can't
have it significant residents here because people are hurting.

Speaker 12 (01:20:02):
We've talked about this all year.

Speaker 23 (01:20:04):
Mortgage rates through the roof four point three to five
is the cash rate over here for the Reserve Bank.

Speaker 12 (01:20:09):
No sign that's.

Speaker 23 (01:20:10):
Going to come down anytime soon, and people are desperately hurting.
There's no doubt about that, and that will have a
very significant impact of the next election. Whether it's good
enough to give Dutton government. I don't think it is,
because I think Dutton is so unpopular. But I tell
you what, Labor's going to get a kick in the
pants that just won't believe, I promise you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Penny Wong's here in New Zealand as we speak, which
is interesting because I assume it will get raised because
they're having what we call two plus twos and we've
got the Foreign Minister and the Defense Minister, and you've
got Miles and Wong and they're here have a teta
tet today. So this break at the u N is
this Wong rud It's that old style. We're not you

(01:20:49):
know what I'm saying. And they've suddenly gone off on
their own weird tangent or not really.

Speaker 23 (01:20:53):
Well, I'm not sure, on their own and a weird tangent,
I mean overwhelmingly. The resolution was passed one hundred and
fifty seven to eight all for setlers to be removed
from the West Bank. It calls for Israel to get
out of the occupied territories to allow the creation of
a two state solution.

Speaker 12 (01:21:09):
Now, is it the end of the world.

Speaker 23 (01:21:11):
Well, if you listen to the opposition, and indeed to
Benjamin Netanyahu, who was come out, I think for the
first time, Nittanya, who has said listen, what are you
doing Australia.

Speaker 12 (01:21:20):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:21:20):
So, yes, it's a significant vote in terms of the
way it's been received. But as far as Labor would
have you believe, it's simply a continuation of its desire
to have a two state solution where there's Israel and
as a Palestinian state. That's been the case for a
long time. It was bipartisan here a minute ago. But
the way that the opposition has and the government has

(01:21:42):
politicized this, it just seems that further apart than ever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Mike, Yeah, exactly, says funny thing. Our Prime minister was
asked the other day, you know, the ICC arrest warrant
for Nittanyahu, and of course the British the other day
went well, you know, and then the Americans came out
and win, if you do, will wreck your economy. Now,
our prime ministers came out and said, if he turns up,
you will arrest him because we've signed up to the
ic C. But of course, you know we can say

(01:22:06):
that because Nittanya, who's never coming here. Have they said that?
As Wong said that openly nittnya who lobbed into Australia,
which is not beyond the realms of possibility. I guess
would they arrest him?

Speaker 12 (01:22:15):
Look, I can't possibly answer that.

Speaker 23 (01:22:18):
I wouldn't know, and you know it would be it
would be extraordinary if the Prime Minister of Israel was
to be arrested on the warrant issue by the ic C.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
That's what they signed up and that's the sort of
vote indicates, you know, Australia's heading towards that they're you know,
less in love with Israel than the Americans are, and
you get the ire of the Americans and then you
know it's all on.

Speaker 23 (01:22:41):
It's such a complex It's such a complex issue, doesn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:22:44):
I mean, can you ever see it being resolved?

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Of course right, Well, for you, you and I have been
around a while. Every time it flares up, and every
thirteen year old journalist goes Oh my god, that's World
War you know you're just thinking, well, I've seen this
eight hundred times before. Don't keep your powder dry anyway.
Murray as always a joy, a thrill, and you have
a good break and we'll look forward to your run
company next to year. Mike.

Speaker 23 (01:23:06):
I have a lovely happy save Christmas and look forward
to talking to you twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Murray hold's best in the business. That poll, by the way,
look it up. So it is seat by seat in
Australia and it's just the chances of Labor getting a
majority are zero. That's what the pulse is zero. You
need seventy six seats. We estimate there's a ninety eight
percent chance of a minority government, slightly less than two

(01:23:31):
percent chance of a coalition majority. The probability of Labor
majority is now approaching zero. And it's inner city labour
still strong, provincial and suburban. The coalition are creming it
fourteen to two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
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At B ten k's is the depth we're reading. There's
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obviously listen to the news. Right councils quickly Queenstown Lake's

(01:24:13):
district council. Actually, no, that's my favorite, so I leave
that till last. Nelson, they're going to boycott companies who
trade with illegal Israeli settlements. Fantastic. Good on you, Nelson.
I'm glad there's nothing else for you to do that's
more important than worry about the Middle East, and I'm
sure the Middle East is deeply worried about what you think.
Second council horror Fanua. Should local councils be submitting on

(01:24:37):
the Treaty Principles Bill? Do elected members have a mandate
and sufficient understanding of community views on the topic? Good question,
District council chief executive asked counselor. Is that The number
of councilors emailed saying yes, others said no. Majority responded
to the email said no, no, we don't know enough.
We're not into it. It's not our domain. Let's leave
it alone. Having got that result, that's called democracy. Somebody,

(01:25:01):
an elected member no names, has now made a notice
of motion for the eleventh of December meeting so to
have so having said democratically no, we shouldn't, they then
said no, let's have a discussion about it December eleven,
obviously going to provide a platform for them to call
everybody a racist at that meeting. So more good useful
time at the council. My favorite Queenstowne Lake's district. They've

(01:25:23):
been ordered to pay over forty four thousand dollars. Who
to Peter Teal. Who's Peter Teal? He's a billionaire. Wanted
to build a lodge. A lot of people didn't like it.
They went to the Environment Court. The Environment Court as
ping the council appealed the decision. This is Teel's company
appealed the decision. Appeal was declined, largely due to the
visibility of the proposed lodge. Judge also scolded the council

(01:25:43):
for failing to defend its earlier decision to decline the
resource consent. So they go and decline it. Teal appeals
the Council come to the court and going, ah, I
don't really know it's a vibe. Yeah, it's a vibe,
it's Marbo and the judge goes, A council is not
immune to a costs award if it has failed to
perform its duties properly or has acted unreasonably. So the council,

(01:26:07):
because councils of councils go, May, you can't do that, Peter,
and he appeals and then they go to the court
and the court goes, why have you rejected that? And
they go don't know, And so they've now forked out. Congratulations,
forty four thousand dollars you didn't have for wasting everybody's time.

Speaker 15 (01:26:22):
Who knew that one of the most successful businessmen in
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Final hearing in the Trump assassination attempt. This is an
exchange between the acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe, Texas
Republican Pat Felon. Pat brings up a photo showing Ronald
and a crowd behind Biden, Carmela Trump, and Milania. This
is at nine to eleven the commemoration. Pat tries to
make the point that Ronald was in the photo instead
of behind the scenes because he liked publicity.

Speaker 7 (01:28:00):
You don't worry Holy medor elected member of Congress.

Speaker 12 (01:28:06):
And I'm asking you a serious question and you are.

Speaker 22 (01:28:08):
I am a public servant who has served this nation, and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
You won't time questions on our.

Speaker 7 (01:28:14):
Day, on our country.

Speaker 9 (01:28:16):
WI the Mini will come to or asking you serious
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not true questions.

Speaker 12 (01:28:23):
Were you the special agent in charge of that? I wasn't.

Speaker 18 (01:28:25):
I was there representing United STU, Mister not perfect protective?

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Speaker 12 (01:28:51):
And you are out of line chairman.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Fortunately, with the arrival of Trump and the early part
of January next year, things will calm down. It's going
to be a golden age if you is my forecast.
That's the sixteenth year of the Mike Hosking Breakfast is
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(01:29:14):
the l fake give it fake, possibly the latter part
of January. Anyway, Very Christmas, Happy Holidays, and as always,
Happy Days.

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