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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome today, job seeker and young people. The wolves are changing,
even Willering on this netball cluster. We've got the Prime
Minister of course. The lads are in the commentary box
for the sport. Richard Arnold on the peace deels and
shut down. Steve Price does the good stuff out of Australia.
Pasky Welcome to the brand new Week seven past six.
I don't think it's unfair to ask. Is it just
how much damage of those who are running netball doing

(00:33):
to their sport at the moment? I mean, do they
have a plan, an endgame, any idea of what they're
actually doing. Noline Tarua has been stood down, of course
for the Constellation Cup. This is the second series she's missed.
This whole scenario. Let's use the word shall we young?
Want to to Barkle has gone on far too long.
It's a mystery game that appears no closer to resolution
than it was several weeks ago. There was a week

(00:53):
of meetings last week, a week of them. One of them,
I noted, lasted ten hours. Just what is it you
do meeting that lasts that long. This won't be a
complex issue, doesn't appear complex. This will be a disagreement
over approach. This is about ideology. Trouble with ideology as
you can debate it literally forever. That's where the leadership
comes in. That's why leaders make decisions. So the trouble

(01:15):
with netball as many fold. Of course, these days, viewings down,
qualities down, because the players have left for Australia, broadcasting
revenue is down, and now a coach a legend of
the sport has been handled within an aptitude rarely seen
at this level. The accusation still appears to be that
Knowles is a bit old fashioned. Knowles demands a bit
much of the players, and some of the players are
a bit soft and don't like it. Not all players,

(01:36):
of course. One of the best players, Grace and Wicky,
called it out after a game last week. Not a
smart move in normal circumstances, but clearly driven by frustration.
It goes to one of the sticky issues of elite
sport player power. Does the talent run the show or
the coach specifically in this case, just what sort of
talent is it that's calling the coach out? Are they

(01:56):
the players you can't afford to lose? Or some new
bees a bit emboldened the coach. Surely she's due a
level of respect that allows her view to hold some
sort of sway. So she's old fashioned? Is that new?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Has it led to a success? Yes? Are we lucky
to have her? Yes? So they banged some heads and
still have an issue at that point. Surely it's back
on those who run the game. If you let the
slide longer and longer. Can we not suggest you aren't
actually running your game, you are abdicating your responsibility to.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Lead news of the world.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
In ninety second, developments over the weekend on the Middle
East parties arriving in Egypt as we speak for these negotiations,
there is hope around the hostages and some sort of deal.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
They've been fighting for a plan for years.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
We get the hostages back almost immediately.

Speaker 7 (02:42):
Negotiations are going on right now, will probably take a
couple of days, and people are very happy about it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Domestic pleas Chicago is the latest recipient of some federal enforcement.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
My message of alarm is that the constitutional crisis is
not on its way. It is here, and we all
better start acting like it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Secretary of Wars at the Football Army Navy game, talking
troop deployment.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
We're here to defend the hemisphere, defend the homeland, defend
the border, deter China, make sure Europe does shoulders more
of the burden.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So I don't know exactly where everybody.

Speaker 8 (03:17):
Will be, but I'll tell you we're going to be
laser focused on America first and peace through strength.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
And that's what President Trump delivers. Is the shutdown sorted? No,
it's not. Is the blame game still on yesterday?

Speaker 9 (03:26):
Left wing special interest groups are so adamant in their
desire to fight President Trump. It's sort of this blind
Trump derangement syndrome, if you will. They don't want to
give the President of victory on anything.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
In Britain, Height rolls into the weekend with the mosque
in Sussex cent on five.

Speaker 10 (03:44):
I think we're going to stand our ground to defense
the community safety and to defend our local communities and
as Muslim, to defend our mosques and our community in
a peaceful way, in a democratic.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Way, meantime, the Tories have been left out of the
migrant divide. Of course, they felt it's time to get
stuck in.

Speaker 11 (04:00):
Who comes here, why they come, and how they contribute.
That is how we protect the inheritance the generations before
us fought for and died forth.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
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the weekend. Taka Ichi Sanai, woman sixty four, once had

(04:56):
purple hair, punk rock drummer that seemed to be the
fascination for to the media over the weekend. More importantly
for now anyway, she's the new Prime Minister of Japan
and we wish her the very best of luck. Twelve
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Speaker 1 (05:09):
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Speaker 2 (05:18):
I should mention that the Japanese Prime Minister is at
the conservative end of the conservative party spectrum and that
part of the world. And speaking of conservatives, the Czechs
went to the polls over the weekend of the guy Babbis,
who's a billionaire. There'll be a conflict of interest there.
You'll need to watch this one. He won, but he
didn't win enough. He's going to need some sort of coalition.
So Babis is a billionaire, seventy one years old, and
he's replacing the prong strongly pro Western, pro Ukraine coalition.

(05:41):
So how that unfolds is going to be interesting. But
because he runs so much of the Czech economy, running
the country becomes slightly problematic, potentially in a Trump Esque
sort of way. Fifteen second five Who generates Monday Morning?
Greg Smith, Good morning to you, good morning to Mike

(06:01):
Wednesdays of the day. What are you calling?

Speaker 12 (06:04):
Well, I think a quarter point is locked in, but
I think a half percent rate cut is a real probability,
and I think that's what we actually need, So let's
just think about it quickly. So obviously, we have the
dune called GDP that was pretty die, you know, zero
point nine percent contraction. It's triple what the ABENZ had
forecast near look at what we've had since, so the
manufacturing sector we're back in contraction mode. And the ABOU

(06:25):
were getting a few bang on about September being a
better one for the economy, but I'm not sure if
that's a huge achievements from a pretty low base. So
it's still tough out there for a lot of people.
When just you can look at that anecdotally as well.
So we actually can get another side on the economy
before the meeting on Wednesdays. We've got the NZI call
a serve of business opinion, and the aben Z is
known to follow that, so that could be what swings it.

(06:46):
Of course, it will be an additional element, Mike. We
did have the new governor announced in Christian Hawksby. He'll
be in the seat tools start of December, so is
he going to be tended to sign more of those
that are going to remain after he's gone. Obviously, we've
also got another recent appointed as well that might be
drawn that way. We have had reductions in the cash
right of course, we've talked about that since the peak
of five and a half percent last year, but we
need more. Three percent still way too high, and I

(07:08):
think we need to be back at two and a
half percent, So that's where aero point five comes from,
and perhaps towards two percent by the end of the
year and get those transmission effects. So obviously for businesses
and also conceme us and we've got around about forty
five percent of mortgage holders set to refix their rates
in the next six months. Several big bangs cut their
one year mortgage rates last week. They've probably got further
to go as well. So this could all be quite

(07:30):
helpful as we close out twenty twenty five and hopefully
put our economy into a better frame as we enter
twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Six, well one would hope. So shut down in America
is still shut down, of course, so we didn't get
the job numbers apart from anything else.

Speaker 12 (07:42):
No, we didn't get the job numbers, so that the
late beer of labor statistics are paused all activity. Obviously,
Trump's been pretty fixated on those job numbers, so a
double edged sword for him, as we've seen the Doge team.
But what's the impact and how long is it going
to go on. We don't know how long it's going
to go on, but we still have a sense in
the impact. So seven hundred and fifty thousand employees reestimated

(08:02):
to be fairloud each day. It's a cost of around
for one in a million in terms of their compensation.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
So we've got.

Speaker 12 (08:07):
Things that aren't paused, so defense, postal services, debt payments thankfully,
air traffic control that's still running, but national parks, passport
processing that's paused, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Lots of them.

Speaker 12 (08:19):
There will be lots of impacts. And there was a
travel on tourism industry estimate over the weekend that it's
going to cost the sector around about a billion dollars
a week as government travels can and people that were
meeting for government don't need to do so, so travel
impacted there market, So Mike don't seem to perturbed. They
and we have seen this movie before. They've actually, in

(08:39):
fact been twenty shut down since nineteen seventy six, so
obviously a lot of headlines have been investors viewed as
political gridlock rather than an economic crisis. Also, the stuff
that r fairlaid will typically come back with back pace
that have an impact. So overall Cawley GDP impact is
spected to be relatively minor, about point one two point
two percent points per week. And obviously politicians they always

(09:03):
reach a deal, don't they. That's just how well it
goes on for So you look at the past two decades,
equity markets have actually rosen during the shutdown. The largest
and longest one was thirty five day one in Trump's
first term late twenty eighteen twenty nineteen s and P
Mike rose ten percent during that period. I went to
see how long it drags on, but it might not
prove a big deal for equity markets.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
No, indeed not. What about the services sector though, that's interesting.

Speaker 13 (09:27):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (09:27):
So we didn't get the non farm payrolls print. We
did get some reads on the services sector, so activity
there is stored. So there was a couple of surveys actually,
so the ICM Services PMI came in up fifty percent.
That's like break even. So the percentage of firms even
in terms of those of port and growth of those contracting,
that's the first time it's been there since January twenty ten,

(09:48):
down two points in August and was worse than expected.
So you look at the survey business activity and production
index that was in contraction for the first time since
the early days of the pandemic had made twenty t
The employment in the ex directly edge up. In new orders,
they went quite well, partaking in terms of backlogs, but yeah,
certainly slowing down. There was a slightly better side of

(10:09):
form MESMP Global market these survey is a broaderwine. It
looks more smaller mid sized businesses, so there were slightly
more positive did show that things are showing down, but
only slightly. They're saying that our services sector was still
in contraction at fifty four point two. Sorry, it's still
on expansion ship say, at fifty four point two, So
it's been that way for thirty two months. Financial services

(10:30):
and Texas sectors are going pretty well, and consumer facing
services such as leisure and recreation going well well as well.
So it suggests that low interest rates are helping there,
so slightly different view. Foreign demand that improved the first
time in six months. Tariffs there slowing terms of inflation impact,
although hiring did stall, so I think on balance the
two surveys do support the case for more rate cauns

(10:52):
by the Fed.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, what are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (10:55):
So the Dow was up forty six seventy five eight
that is a record high, and P five hundred flat
sixty seven one five that's holding around record highs. And
na'z that down point three percent, twenty two seven eighty
for two one hundred up point seven percent that is
a record high. Nine four nine one nikay one point
nine percent that is also a record high forty five
seven six nine A six two hundred and half percent

(11:17):
eight nine eighty seven insx fifty up half percent thirteen
five one four. We could be talking about our so
record highs before too long as well. Gold up thirty
dollars three thousand and eight eighty six and ounce oil
up forty cent sixty spot eight eight. Currency is kiwi
upslightly against the US dollar fifty eight point three, Austrain
dollar eighty eight point three, up very slightly point one
percent high Bridge pound. We have forty three point three

(11:38):
down point one percent. Japanese en eighty five point nine
eight that was up point four percent was the Kiwi
this week, Mike, we've got minutes and last FED meeting,
and we've got consumer comments in the US as well
as Australia. We've got earning some Pepsi Delta airlines at
Levi Strauss Locally, we've got the manufacturing PM later in
the week with the dairy auction. We've got the collage
server business opinion, and of course the big one so halfcent.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
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Speaker 1 (12:27):
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Speaker 2 (12:33):
A very interesting piece about AI over the week in
Bezos calls it a bubble, and it's it's by that
he means it's not bust, but it's a bubble. The
amount of money, the amount of energy, the amount of
time it's going to AI is not going to return
what you think it will. It's the classic tech advancement
where everyone thinks it's going to revolutionize everything and it doesn't.

(12:54):
See Haitashi There shares went up ten percent last week
simply because they signed a deal with open Ai. What's
it mean? How is it materially going to transfer itself?
Who knows? But oh Ai must be good so they'll pop.
Then you've got the Saura Too thing. If you don't
know about Sura Too, have a look at that and
see what you think and ask yourself whether it's going
to lead to a tremendous number of lawsuits. Because I

(13:17):
can see nothing but trouble There six twenty.

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Bad Bunny I got the Super Bowl gig last week
announced of course a couple of days ago, turned up
on Saturday Night Live over the weekend that was the
opening of their fifty first season. Now the trouble is
with Bad Bunny. He's previously said he wouldn't be performing
in America because of all of this ice business. An Icen,
Kirsty Name, Christy Name have said that they'll be all
over the super Bowl event and the NFL wouldn't be

(13:46):
able to sleep at night over its decision.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
I'm doing the super Bowl half done show.

Speaker 14 (13:57):
I'm very happy.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I'm very happy, and I think when he's.

Speaker 15 (14:00):
Happy about it, even even Fox News, bad buddy.

Speaker 14 (14:08):
This is my favorite.

Speaker 16 (14:09):
Musician and he shouldn't be president.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
No, no, but really, I'm very excited to be doing
the Super Ball and I know that people all around the.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
World who love my music are also happy. Speaking of
is that entertain Is that how you open the season
of SNL? Is that funny? Anyway? Speaking of music, I listen,
of course to Taituy's latest. She was at the movies
and I'll give you some number at that move she
had a movie about the album and that was the
biggest movie of the weekend. Then the vinyl halls, they're interesting,

(14:39):
and I wonder, I ask yourself this question, is a
vinyl hall exploitation? Given the vinyls the same record, but
it comes out in different colors, So you've got to
get the hall and the halls a couple of hundred
US dollars and given her market, which is the tweenies,
is she exploiting them financially for commercial game anyway? More
on tap Swift in the next half hour of the program.

(15:01):
We're also looking at the latest look at downtown Auckland.
They asked the people who work there. They don't like
the look of it, So some more detail on that.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Well, he heard Champy was optimistic. The only thing I
could get out of the the Hummas response is, yes,
the hostages looked like they're going to get three match good.
But the difficulty is they mentioned nothing about putting their
guns down, which was one of the twenty points or
one of the points in the twenty point Plants and
Richard Arnold on that. Shortly meantime, twenty three minutes away
from seven back here, new stats Downtown Auckland seventy one

(15:42):
percent of Queen Street business is not happy with cleanliness,
maintenance and homelessness. Seventy seven percent, our local council and
government ignore their needs. There are growing fears that this
antisocial behavior could undermine the turnaround the things like the
CURL and the Convention Center will bring. Apparently, Viv Beck
is the chief executive of Heart of the City and
is back with us Bird Morning running. How long we've

(16:03):
been talking about downtown Lookland? How many years?

Speaker 17 (16:07):
A long time? A long time, and we're coming up
to a big year. That's why we're doing this. We
cannot allow this to continue.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is this a council thing or is this a government thing?

Speaker 17 (16:18):
I think it's a bit of both. I think, to
be fair to government, they have responded to our long
standing request for a cross agency approach and we have
got ministers involved and we really hopeful what we need
is urgency on that. I think council has to recognize
this is a real issue. I think, to be fair,

(16:38):
they have put some wardens and things on, but I
think they just really need to understand this is not
the sort of thing you need in a trading environment.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
We're going to I'm not downtown as much as you are,
but haven't gone downtown. I mean, the problem is evident.
It's obvious. It's overwhelming. Everyone can see it. Do you
think the council get it, or they get it but
don't want to do something about it, or they just
don't get it.

Speaker 17 (17:03):
Well, I have to say I would hope they get
it and want to do something about it, but I
actually think they don't get it. To be honest, I
think they really it's an attitude thing, and I think
they need to change their attitude for a start to
business and property owners in that area. They have to
listen to their needs and that comes into some of
the work they've done on the street scapes and the

(17:23):
access and the fines and all that sort of stuff,
and they have to understand that in the end, for
this to be a great place for tourists, for people
to want to get onto that train, and for a
great experience for the people coming into the convention center,
this has to be more like what you see down
in britam Art Commercial Bay the viaduct. They have to

(17:45):
take a leaf out of that and significantly lift the standards.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Because Mike Mitchell, from the central government point of view,
I'm sure would argue, look, we've got an increased police presence,
we've got the new station coming all of that. They're
doing their bit, aren't they.

Speaker 17 (17:58):
They are, and I think you know, we got the
downtown police station, so look, they are doing their bit.
We have said to them and I I've spoken to
the Police Commission. I've spoken to the Minister. We do
need more police before CRL because we're going underground and
they recognize that. So now I think police has done
their but I think Justice is doing their bit. We've

(18:19):
got we had a recent announcement from Minister Bishop about
Emergen the housing. We need more on that because that
seems to be deteriorating. But there's just a general deterioration
and standards and Council has to enforce its by law.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Couldn't agree more. Go well, I wish you the best
with a Vivibec chief executive at the heart of the setting.
And of course at this point I would go, well,
the good news is we've got a local body election
on at the moment, so if you're exercised about this,
you could go and vote. But then why would I
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a lease in some slob parks as fat ass outside
your business and Biggs yes at that point, mind you.
Winston probably feels the same way. And that was just
a protest. It doesn't now talk to the Prime Minster
about that. I know two people who voted over the
weekend in Auckland and the Auckland Region. We're up to
the fantastic total. It's like telethon fifteen point nine percent.

Speaker 18 (20:18):
When you say they voted, did they vote like for
everything or did they just vote for the mayor. I
was just talking to somebody who voted over the weekend
and they voted for mayor.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
They will never break down. It's a very good question,
isn't it. I reckon that whatever the voting tally is,
it'd be at least half that for the people on
the council, wouldn't.

Speaker 18 (20:36):
It at at the very least.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So I've got two people. I know two people who
voted over the weekend and those numbers don't clear the weekend,
but at fifteen point nine the best thing that happened
over the weekend in Auckland. Just to bore the rest
of the country witness on Auckland for one more moment.
The government announced five million for the roof at the
Tennis Center. The tennis centers needed a roof forever, and
why we don't have a roof facility, see if we

(21:00):
insist on running international tenants events is beyond me. The
whole bill for a roof of fifteen million dollars. Why
it's taken so long, I don't know, But anyway, they
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Speaker 19 (21:09):
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So I thought, Richard Donald, morning, what do you make right?
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Speaker 7 (21:19):
Well, she is what everyone is saying, and you'd have
to agree.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Right.

Speaker 7 (21:22):
It's almost two years of the day since the brutele
attacked by Hamas on the Israeli settlement with almost two
hundred people killed, and now what some seventy thousand dead
in the war that's followed. Now, these hosts for Peace
as a mass appears to have agreed to the Trump proposal,
but still with a lot of crucial elements to be determined.
So is there a serious agreement or not. Here's what
US Secutive State micro Rubio said a short time ago.

Speaker 20 (21:45):
Look, it's a mass, Okay, So I'm not telling you
here that these are people I trust one hundred percent
or should we. But they have said basically that they
agreed to his proposal and the framework for releasing the hostages.
That's an enormous achievement.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Well, Trump is presenting this as a done deal. In reality,
it is a high qualified acceptance. As you've been saying.
Negotiations are underway in Coro over conditions for the release
of the remaining hostages still alive and the bodies of
those captives who've died. There are believed to be about
twenty living hostages and the bodies of about twenty eight
hostages who didn't survive. One claim is that they might

(22:17):
be released over several days through the International Red Cross.
Trump has responded to some of this through text. With CNN.
He was asked what happens if ha Mass insists on
staying in power. Trump's response quote complete obliteration.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
Then he was pressed.

Speaker 7 (22:29):
About Republican Senator Lindsey Graham's response that the Hamas answer
amounts to a rejection since Hamas insists on no disarmament,
keeping Gaza under Palestinian control, and tying hostage releases to negotiations.
So Trump was asked, is Senator Graham wrong? Trump replied,
only time will tell. Question when will you know if
a mass is truly committed or just stringing the world along?

Speaker 15 (22:50):
Now?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Is Prime Minister Nettano who on board with ending the
bombing and whatever else is required of him? Trump's answer,
yes on BB soon on the rest. So there's the
White House voicing some optimism, while Secretary Rubio says.

Speaker 20 (23:03):
Disarmament, demobilization. That's not going to be easy. That's going
to be hard, but it is really important because without it,
without demobilization, you're not going to have a lasting piece.
A lot of work has to happen there.

Speaker 7 (23:13):
So yeah, this is the most encouraging point in a
long while, but much remains to be done.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And then we got to Chicago with a National Guard
turning up.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yeah, and a lot of ugly situations involving the Ice
immigration raids along with the guards, and the Trump moves
to send three hundred Digtional Guard troops into the city,
and at one scene, the Fed's opened fire on a
woman who was allegedly armed with a gun after one of.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Their vehicles was blocked.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
They say they were blocked by ten cars. I'll say
it was two vehicles. After the woman was shot, she
drove herself to a hospital where she's in critical condition.
Near the ice facility in Chicago, police scuffle with hundreds
of protesters. Here is some of it. We held the

(24:00):
cort off the home, flash bangs going off in the

(24:26):
background elsewhere. They brought it in a black hole helicopter
to raide an apartment block where they were apparently looking
for a small handful of people, but detained everybody, say witnesses,
no shoes.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
The kids that had no shirts or no pants on.
They just treated us like.

Speaker 15 (24:40):
We would nothing.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
They said he had more to five people.

Speaker 12 (24:43):
I said, so why are you detaining the whole building.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's as for the safety of our people.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
So kids taken out with no clothes on, zip tied together,
then detained for hours, says Governor JB.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Pritsko.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
They broke windows, they broke down doors, they ransacked the place,
and there were people that were held. I mean elderly
people and children. Zip tid elderly people held for three
hours at a time. They are the ones that are
making it a war zone.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
Instead, Trump has, as I say, ok sending another three
hundred guardsmen into Chicago, while in Portland a Trumpet point
a judge has put a brief halt to the deployments there,
saying this is a country of constitutional laws, not martial law.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
See Wednesday, mate, Richard Donold stateside. And if you're not
up with it, for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary
of America next year, we're going to have a Trump coin,
one dollar coin. They're looking at designs at the moment.
The first draft has got Trump's hidden profile on one
side above the words in God we trust to date
seventeen seventy six to twenty twenty six. Other side, it's

(25:46):
the photo of him moments after we survived the assassination
with fight Fight Fight. They haven't signed off the final design,
but sort of looks like it's going to be so
it would be a one dollar coin next year. Collector's
piece ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
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Speaker 2 (26:04):
Basically the other thing that's happening in America over the weekend.
The feeds are after Amazon primes drones. A couple of drones.
This is an Arizona and they flew into a construction crane,
which is not part of the deal. This is in
a place called Tolison in Arizona, so substantial damage to
the drones. These were a couple of MK thirty drones.
I don't know what that means, but anyway, they flew
into a crane. One person was evaluated at the scene,

(26:27):
possible smoke INHALATIONI related matters. Funnily enough, didn't get the
cabbage that deserve. But Judith Collin's Ministry of Defense was
out there this company in the Bay of Plenty, which
makes drones for the military. She announced this thing they
calling the Technology Accelerator. But the thing I didn't realize
is that there are eight hundreds. What she's essentially wanting

(26:49):
to do is have more people in this country make
more stuff for the military, which is no bad idea,
But we already have eight hundred suppliers locally. That's a
lot of businesses and a lot of people supplying to
the military in this country. Isn't eight hundred anyway. I
may talk with the Prime Minister about that in a
half hours time, or they're about six away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, I didn't mention before when I was talking about
the vinyl Halworth Taylor Swift is that under the Boom
and Amendment, which I've never heard of. It's a Cold
War era carve out. Under the Boom and Amendment, vinyl records,
cassettes and CDs aren't tarot so you're paying less for
your vinyl CD. So that works out well for the

(27:38):
young people. Now where are we at? So Life of
a Show Girl basically it's unfolded the way you thought.
We get the official numbers tomorrow apparently, but it's sold
two point seven million copies in the traditional album sales.
That's day one, two point seven million copies, biggest ever
album release, second largest release of any album since records
began in nineteen ninety one. Isn't it also amazed you

(28:01):
that records only began in the nineties. It's like, what
the hell were we doing before that? I mean, I
was around before the nineties, and I'm sure we were
collating stuff. Clearly not Adel's twenty five holds the record
currently next one to potentially fall as the record for
the most album sold in the week, which is also
a doll At three point three seven eight million, Swift
broke her own record for vinyl copies one point two
million of them compared to last year when The Tortured

(28:24):
Poets Department That's sold one hundred and fifty nine thousand.
The ninety minute movie, the official release of Party of
the Showgirl, that was the number one movie over the
weekend that was expected to rake in about thirty two million,
which would make it the biggest movie of the weekend
thirty seven one hundred theaters. It did fifteen point eight
million Friday, thirty million domestically over the three day weekend,

(28:51):
not as big as the Eras Tour ninety three and
the highest grossing concert movie domestically at one hundred and
eighty Eventually was the Years to her as well, but
mind you, that was a whole tour. She hasn't too
of this particular album. I listened to the album over
the weekend, of course, and what I like about her,
let me tell you what I like about it. I
like who she is, I like what she's about. I

(29:13):
like successful people who aspire to be brilliant, and she
is brilliant. She's the biggest thing in the world by
so far. It doesn't matter. You can always tell these
things because albums come out every day and no one
covers albums anymore. But the whole world stopped for this
particular album release. Everyone from Fox to C and n
to CNBC to the BBC all had stories about an
album release and her coverage. Why she started in Britain?

(29:33):
I have no idea. Do we know why that happened?
She started in Britain. She went on Norton over the
weekend and I watched an interview she did with the BBC.
So why she and Britain doing that? I've got no idea.
But nevertheless, the album, I mean, She's not my cup
of tea personally, has a couple of songs on that
album that are lovely. She's a better poet than she
is a musician as far as I can work out.
She has some very very clever words, and there's a
couple of really good tracks. She's hard not to like.

(29:55):
I love her. I think she's a fantastic human being
as far as you know, being brilliant is concerned. She
is the voice of a generation. Now news for you
in a couple of moments. Then, speaking of generation, the
young'uns and their jobs will look at the change.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
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Speaker 2 (30:21):
Seven past seven. So the jobs he could changes for
eighteen nineteen year olds have been brought forward. Eighteen nineteen
year olds without dependence will need to pass a parental
assistance test of the parents inurn over sixty five thousand dollars.
We've also got this thousand dollars bonus. That's for eighteen
to twenty four year olds who stay off the benefit
for twelve months through the government's Community Job Service. Rod
Bill is the chief operating officer for Blue Light Youth

(30:42):
and is with us Rod Morning, Good morning, Mike. But
a carrot bit a stick. Do we like it or not?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (30:48):
I think it's a good thing. I am both for
a parental side of things that just because somebody turns
eighteen doesn't take that responsibility your way, but also the
incentive to get out and either obviously word is one way,
but also there's opportunity for training and trade or some
sort of other study. All of that has got to

(31:08):
be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
My guess is it's going to be like the traffic
lights system for the rest of beneficiaries, and that is
that there's a bit of expectation on you and you
need it tidy up. If you're a bit slackened. This
will be the same thing.

Speaker 15 (31:19):
Yes, and I think it's I think a big part
is not just the opportunity for not paying up the benefit,
but also the big dangerous for a young persons starts
down the track where a benefit becomes part of their life.
As a stat shows that they g end up probably
at least a minimum eighteen years of their life. Yea,

(31:39):
we want to break that. You break that once and
you've actually paid them probably for twenty people. So financially
it makes a huge sense. But for anybody they want
to have worth, and worth is doing something positive and proactive,
whether it's work or training or education, is what will
make people feel better about themselves. Make a difference to
the young people a.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Little bit tricky at the moment given the economy. Of course,
how many of the people you deal with. I really
as and genuinely want work. I just can't find any
verses are well, never mind, I'll play some PlayStation.

Speaker 15 (32:12):
Look, I wouldn't that exact percentage, but yes, it certainly
a lot. We know when we advertise ourselves we probably
get three times more applicants, and we did a couple
of years ago. But I don't think we should just
because it's difficult, throw away the opportunity to make a difference.
And I think this is a positive things for family
to get behind the young people and get them out there.

(32:35):
And it not just work. There's heaps of opportunities to
learn a trade or get some sort of hector training,
which would also inspire them to stay away from the benefit.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, there's no excuse. Actually, Rod appreciate it. Rod Bell,
who's the chief operating officer for blue Light ten minutes
past seven, Oscar, Is this eighteen nineteen year old job
secret initiative, Mike, the first of many tougher policies this
coalition might actually roll out now that labor effectively out
of the next action, with or without Chippy. To be fair,
to make the point, if you've missed it, this is

(33:05):
not new policy. This was announced in the budget this
year and the only change has been it was going
to roll out late next year. Why, I guess I'll
ask the Prime Minister why it was going to take
so long. I've got no idea. I'm assuming administratively speaking
along with expectation. All they did yesterday was bring a
policy that already announced back from the end of next
year to begin in the middle of next year. Mike,

(33:26):
when our kids were teenagers, we wouldn't let them go
on the benefit. No me, neither all of our kids.
We've said the same thing. A couple of them wanted
to leave school, you know, before completion, and we said,
no problem, it all do whatever you like, but you're
certainly not going on a benefit. We went out and
helped them get jobs. We actually went and approached some
companies to give them a go. They're doing really well.
Now we've got a banker, we've got a builder and

(33:46):
an electrician, a lot of it. Like Life is About
Attitude eleven past seven, The.

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Speaker 2 (34:00):
Tell you what steep price back from holiday later on
this morning, and his whole theory about I dismissed it
with Oscar Piastre and how he was getting stitched up.
But if you followed the Singapore Grand Prix this morning,
and I'll explain later if you didn't follow it, the
more that that happens, the more you're thinking Steve's on
to something. I thought he was just some crazed old
conspiracy theorists, but now it's happened just too many times. Anyway,

(34:23):
thirteen past seven, hard to believe speaking you've bought this
netball mess drags into another week Knitball New Zealand. Dame
nol In Taru are then headed apparently for some sort
of legal showdown. If you can believe this after a
week of Lord knows how many hours of meetings. Evonne
Willering's with us on this Evon morning.

Speaker 16 (34:37):
Yes, good morning.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Can you explain? And you know from your experience, and
I mean, how is this thing dragged on as long
as it has?

Speaker 16 (34:44):
Oh exactly?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
You know?

Speaker 16 (34:46):
And it was interesting because after sort of Grayson Riicky
spoke out at the end of the Tiny Jameson series,
I thought, okay, this is now going to force nep
On New Zealand to have some honest conversations and basically
work to resolve this whole issue, you know, and with
a situation now who knows. I mean, initially we were
the network community was disappointed. I think the network community

(35:09):
now is quite angry about how it's all come out.
And now Dan noel in Tarro has been suspended for
or made of twenty twenty five and it's gone from
a high performance program and environment problem and it's now
become an employment issue. And you know, I'm going, why
has this not been resolved? And I think it started

(35:31):
off reasonally small and it is really fested and now
it's become a major.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
So does this sit with the leadership of netball It's
on them to do something.

Speaker 16 (35:42):
Well, it's all parties involved, you know, and you alluded
to it. You know, they had mediation and it was
hours and hours. So you know, you're looking at that
and going, someone make a decision as to what's happening.
And for a while there I was sort of saying,
you know, all the wrong people are coming out in
the media rather than the actual people involved. And yes,

(36:02):
I know lawyers an't involved, and you've got to be careful,
but you know, finally, finally the Players Association have provided
a statement and I looked at them and and I
was critical of them and the fact I was saying
they needed to look after all the players, not just
the ones that had had the grievances and had taken
that to nep On, New Zealand. But they're now coming

(36:23):
out saying it's an employment matter, so it actually doesn't
involve the players association. So yeah, I think that really, yeah,
it's now been foled off into into something else, and
it's just sad that really all the talk is about
Dame nol in Tahua and the environment that's being created. Well,
I look at this and I'm going there's lots of

(36:44):
other people on board nowadays. It isn't just about a
coach and a manager. You know, they had three coaches,
they had a high performance manager, they had a manager
as well. Surely any potential toxic situation should have been
avoided or at least dealt with internally. And it's so
sad that this is now out in the public arena

(37:06):
and we're all having to say about it.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
What would you do?

Speaker 16 (37:10):
Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, I just think the wrong people
are now sitting in there having discussions, and I find
it very sad that it's got to the stage that
obviously it's totally about Lawyer's involvement, and you know, it's
all very well, we're saying, you know, the players, you
know how they're going to carry on. No, no, they're
still going to step out of silver firds the moment

(37:31):
they put the black dress on. That's their responsibility. But
you still look at that and you go, where is
their accountability? And you know, Dame Noling Taru is sitting
at home, you know, basically weaving a garden and I'm going,
you know, somewhere along the line. It's just it's a
situation whereby who is responsible for what for what? And

(37:52):
I don't know at the moment, I think they didn't
expect the reaction from Dame Noling Tarua that they got.
I think that they thought she was just going to
tow the line, make the adjustments and move on with it.
But she has strong beliefs in her style of coaching
and you know it's worked in the past, and suddenly

(38:12):
she's been questioned on it. But why just her? And
I just don't get it, And none of us actually
know exactly what the situation is behind the scenes, and
we're all speculating right now.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Exactly. Nice to talk to you, Von Willering. So you
got two parts, haven't you got? Which camp are you
in in the players camp or the coaches camp? And
how much player power is there and how much coaching
power is there. That's one part of the argument. The
other part of the argument is how come they can
lead an organization so abysmally and not make a decision
and allow us to drag on It is eighteen past seven,
as kelling, Mike, we employed mental apprentices in the construction

(38:47):
space and electrical as well, and you did write attitude
Trump's academics any day of the week. I learned that
one of the advantages you had when you got five
kids is they're all different. And we've been lucky enough
at home to have a traditional pathway through universities for
some of them. Others have wanted to make their own
way in the world. I told you last week one
of them's got four jobs at the moment. They're working
the gig economy. That's their dream, that's what they want

(39:09):
to do. They want to hustle, they want to grind.
But at the end of the day, there was no
expectation in our house that any of them were ever
going to end up on welfare. They could do whatever
they wanted with their lives. They could leave school whenever
they wanted, they could get qualifications and not get qualifications.
They could go off and train, they could not train.
They could start a business, they could hustle, they could
do whatever they liked. But at no point was anybody
expecting them to beyond welfare. It was not acceptable. Now

(39:33):
we'll need to come to the RB. It's a talking
point on Wednesday. Couple of insights as to whether it's
fascinating this one because I can't call it traditionally we
have been able to reasonably easily with the possible exception
of June July when it all went horrifically wrong. But
it's definitely twenty five as in a cut, but is

(39:54):
at fifteen so more shortly nineteen past.

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bad health asking seven twenty three, excuse me. Despite all
the good publicity around the Education Minister's up ending of

(41:10):
the high school curriculum. If you followed the story or
continue to follow the story, where starting to see a
little bit of pushback At the moment, we've got the
art history people not happy. Neither are the HOSPOW people.
Some in the ag sector a little bit upset as well.
Now the argument over what stays and what goes, and
funnily enough, the people involved in what goes. But they're
the ones with the beef at the moment. So art

(41:32):
history good example. I mean, art history is niche, It's
a passion, not a path. It's not I mean in
an ideal world, would it be available, yes, it would.
Is this an ideal world? No, it's not HOSPO. Now
they argue that they're an important part of the overall
curriculum come economy because they are tied to tourism, and
tourism is a stated part of government economic policy, all

(41:53):
of which is true. They argue that HOSPO in year
eleven gives you the taste you pick up a knife,
you learn about not eating bad chicken, and from that,
apparently you go on to open a cafe. So here's
the question. Excepting that everybody who loves their subject can
mount an argument to keep it. What is school for?
Is school there to teach you an actual skill? In
other words, you decide at age fourteen you want to

(42:14):
be a bar manager, you want to open a sushi joint,
so you take HOSPO year one nceea or is school
there to teach you to inquire and to learn? Now,
my argument around HOSPER and jobs like it is their
inherent It's not actually about chopping salary. In many cases,
it's about being your own boss. Hosper is not about
tourism per se. I mean, yes, tourisceipt, but so to locals,
HOSPO is as much about business as it is about

(42:36):
food or hygiene or hiring labor. Nothing I learned in
school led me to radio. Nothing you learn in school
leads you to being a surgeon. School is about opening
doors and broadening ideas. And yes, it equips you in
certain specific areas, like being able to speak and read
and write. But in a country where simply turning up
is the biggest issue, art history sadly is a fair
way down the old totem pole in terms of critical issues.

(42:58):
I made a pool table in wood, but only did
woodwork because of failed tech drawing In the end, I
used neither and like life, education has rungs of reality.
We can't do it all. Your passion subject is somebody
else's indulgence. Is hospo there to breed, Gordon Ramsay's or
shelter kids looking for an easy out asking the question, Mike,

(43:19):
we're the same Todd our son a eighteen. No one
has been on the dole in our family, and you're
not about to be the first.

Speaker 13 (43:25):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
What the heck's going on with women's sport? This is
an interesting question. Cycling, hockey, rugby, netball, athletics. There seems
to be something fundamentally broken with the resilience at the
top end of women's sport. It depends. It's a good point, Steve,
It depends on what you're looking at. If you look
at the cycling with Olivia Podmore, that was a disaster,
that was shocking. But if you look at the hockey hagar,
if you remember that story, it seemed to have a

(43:46):
touch of the noleans about. It seemed to have a
touch of the old. You know, we don't quite like
the way he does it, so we'll complain a bit
and see if we can't get rid of him. So
it's not a bad point. But I mean the answer is,
I don't know what the.

Speaker 14 (43:59):
Other thing is. Gender thing is it?

Speaker 18 (44:00):
I mean, Laurie Mains had a climate of fair when
he was coaching the All Black.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Every All Black coach in the world has had question
marks around them, haven't they. It doesn't matter how good
or not they are. By the way, if you didn't
watch the F one overnight, Liam's not had a good
weekend and he unfortunately the great thing about Liam up
until this particular point in time is he's not smacked
the car. He's had the odd he's had the odd
little clash at the back of the field on corners,

(44:26):
you know, but that's standard F one. He's never actually
been the car until this weekend where he binned it twice.
Here's my summation. By the way, we're giving out three names.
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But my point was he's never been the car and
that's critical and it's important because when you've be in
the car there's quite a repair bill and they don't

(45:07):
like it. And if you go back to the bloke
at Williams whose name I've forgotten, sergeant Logan, sergeant couldn't
stop binning the car. They eventually sacked him because he
cost them too much money. My summation of having watched
him in the last couple of weeks is what they
in the sect call overdriving. He's clearly under pressure. What
happens next year is a question mark. And when you overdrive,

(45:29):
you make mistakes and we saw two of them over
the weekend and he was out of the points. But anyway,
we'll do more wrong than the sport. After eight o'clock
this morning, Meantime News is next and then it's time
for the Prime Minister.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
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Speaker 2 (45:50):
Queenmen at tooray for Sport being a Monday of course,
the commentary bots afterway the clock. Meantime, we've got the
Prime Minister with us a very good morning to you
morning Mike. Do you think that the announcement yesterday which
was bringing forward to the original idea? Firstly, just quickly,
why did you bring it forward? Because we can?

Speaker 21 (46:05):
I mean, it takes a while to get through legislation
and regulations. It's sort of often a twelve month plus process,
and we want to bring it forward as we can
into November next year. The bigger issue here is we're
trying to reset expectations with young people that you just
can't partially attend school and then just drift on into
unemployment benefit. And it is a bit of a reset
for under twenty five to say I'm sorry, you're expected

(46:26):
to get connected with work or employment or training or education.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Sixty five thousand dollars. How did you land on that?

Speaker 21 (46:33):
It's basically the income cutout point for the supported living payment,
and so it basically says if you're coming from very
low income families. We're exempting you, but we know.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
It's quite low. But the reality is it puts the pressure.

Speaker 21 (46:45):
Back on parents to say, get those young people into
worker education.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
What I was going to say is, I'm assuming it's
going to be like the traffic light system, and that
is when you put a bit of pressure on, most
people will respond.

Speaker 21 (46:55):
But I'm trying to get this notion of rights and
responsibilities understood. Whether it's around benefit sanctions for not showing
up and looking for a job, whether it's in this
case young people taking responsibility getting connected with work and
other things, whether it's unruly tenants at KO frankly, prisoner voting,
all of those kinds of things. It's the principle of
their rights to man keeping and there are responsibilities as well.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Okay, now Peter's on Friday. Now I know you're working
on some sort of law. But the idea that and
I happen to know where Peters lives and he's on
a small street and it's an unfortunate house that's right
on the foot part. There's something fundamentally wrong with allowing
people to ruin a neighbour's neighborhood's day, isn't there?

Speaker 21 (47:34):
Yeah, look, I mean, minister's an MP sign up for
public life, but your neighbors don't write. And you know,
when you're getting families impacted by protesters coming to your home,
that's not on. It's not the key we way. And
so what we're doing is we've got legislation to stop that.
It's in this let committee phase at the moment, will
come back for second and third reading before it becomes
a law. But yeah, there's lots of places you can

(47:56):
protest a public figure, but you don't need to do
it at their home, not upsetting the kids and the
families around them.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Did do you know what actually happened? Did anyone go
and round them up or not? Yeah, so there's a protocol.

Speaker 21 (48:07):
I have a similar thing. Obviously, I get a lot
of protests at my house as well. But yeah, but
it was not great. I mean, you know, I got
neighbors with young kids who were sort of woken up
at eleven or twelve at night or four in the
morning or whenever they come. But the upshot is that
essentially the protocol is the police will come out from
very very quickly and and yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
And do what moved them on or move them on?

Speaker 21 (48:31):
They can make arrest if they can, but the new
legislation will make it a lot easier.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay, this open letter you tried on with Hepkins and
he said what he said, were you genuine? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:43):
I was.

Speaker 21 (48:44):
If you go back and look at the house in
the Parliament. I've been calling on him to do this
for a long time. I've done so publicly. Simon Wats
and Meghan Woods have had an interchange about wanting to
be bipartisan on energy policy. But the first thing is
Simon Wat's said to Meghan Woods, and as I've said
to Hipkins, is look, if you can't get over yourself
and over the oil and gas band, we need that
repealed and we need that are repealed for at least

(49:05):
a decade. So why don't you just commit to that
pretty basic sort of requirement because it's.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
Your mess and your ideology that put us on this place.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
But the problem is, and they've got you by the
shortened curlings and that scene's happened though, because if I'm
looking at this country and I don't have any sight
beyond next year, why would I invest when I don't
know what's going to happen?

Speaker 15 (49:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (49:26):
Look, I mean there are things that I think, you know,
we're going to have to think through about how we
might support that investment going forward through legislation. And all
I'm saying is it would be helpful if he could
come out and say, look, we're going to need gas
for the next decade or two for the next decade.
We're going to honor the investments that people are making
in this country to try and get gas exploration and

(49:46):
gas generation up and run.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Okay, so what are you doing in legislation?

Speaker 21 (49:49):
Well, there are things you know, first of almost were
putting in the two undred million dollar CONTI. As you know,
we've overcome turned over the oil and gas. But if
there's things we have to do further to give reassurance.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So it's one of confidence. And so what are you
going to do right a contract? This is if you
sign up, we're going to give you twenty five years
rights or whatever. Correct.

Speaker 21 (50:05):
There might be ways you can think about that because
what have you thinked about? Well, no, it depends on
how we're not We're not at that point yet. But
what I'm saying is that what we're trying to do
is give confidence and clarity to that industry that had
it absolutely shattered, you know, on them by eating that
oil and gas ban or eating oil and gas.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
But that twenty five years, twenty years, whatever it may be.
Certainty of tenure is.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
We're trying to do everything we can to give certainty.

Speaker 21 (50:27):
So if you think about what was announced last week,
I know people have their views as you know, that
was bold enough or whatever. The bottom line as it is,
it's quite you know, some pretty strong stuff in there.
The fact that the government will follow its own money.
If Gen Taylors want to explore therm or firming capacity,
that's good. That gives some certainty to those guys that
they can invest in those in that form of energy. Likewise,

(50:48):
the two hundred million dollars sets side. Likewise, the repeal
of the oil and gas band with legislation that's got
some leaks to it that can last.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Were you disappointed on that announcement last week on energy
reform the reaction to.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It, well, I get it.

Speaker 21 (50:59):
I mean everyone's got their reckons and everyone comes out saying, oh,
I wish it was bolder. And then when you say, well, okay,
well you know, if there was anything, if there was
anything I thought would make a difference, I would do it.
I'm pretty pragmatic and practical about it.

Speaker 16 (51:11):
You know.

Speaker 21 (51:11):
We have actually said to the Gen Taylors, you've got
to sell at the same price now to all players
that you would to your own retailing operation. That's sort
of a sort of an approach to separation, but I
think that's.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
The better way to go. We've said we're going to
back up the tournament.

Speaker 9 (51:24):
I was.

Speaker 21 (51:24):
We said we'll actually back up any capital that goes
into thermal energy generation. All of those things are setting
a message to the industry. Look, we want certainty clarity
so you can make that investment, and we're happy to
co invest with.

Speaker 4 (51:35):
You if need be.

Speaker 21 (51:36):
So you're happy with what you did, yeah, I am,
because I think there's a lot of there's a lot
of people on energy. Everyone's got their reckons and their ideas.
I don't get that, but if they were, if they
were real, and they were I thought they'd make a difference.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I would have done it, Okay.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
My only criticism of it was that you perhaps played
it to a point that we expected something big the
big didn't come.

Speaker 15 (51:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Maybe, but I mean I think what we've done.

Speaker 21 (51:57):
Is pretty pretty serious, you know, and it's been a
series of actions that it gets you to a place
that gives that certainty to the industry to crack on
and invest right. At its simplest, we've got to do
two things. We've got to double renewables that actra generations
coming on stream pretty quickly. If you look at what's
happened even in fifteen months versus the previous.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Five years, it's pretty good. But our big issue is
this gas issue that we've got because of the aland guests.

Speaker 17 (52:20):
Man.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
So, Penny Simmons, I don't see your story here. Is
there a story? Is this going to be pumped along
for another week and some sort of scandal on the
press gallery.

Speaker 21 (52:29):
I'm sure to go into a process story, but the
bottom line is there's no contravention of the Cabinet manual.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
She's doing exactly what we need her to do, which
is too.

Speaker 21 (52:36):
She's unsimilarly for e Can's down on the South Island
as well, So there's nothing there.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Okay. The Reserve Bank Wednesday.

Speaker 21 (52:44):
Fifty points. I remember this conversation last time. Can I
just say, asterix, I fully respect the independence of the
Reserve Bank.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Sure, what would you like to see?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Well, I'm not going to get into that.

Speaker 21 (52:56):
I'll just say, you've seen commentators say somewhere we're doing
twenty five and let's see, what.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Would you like fifty more than twenty five? Do we
need something? See how the.

Speaker 21 (53:05):
Grief you got me into last time? My friend and outlie,
it's not that long.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
So what is the role do you see of the
Reserve Bank in the here and now of the economy
versus what you're doing?

Speaker 21 (53:18):
Yeah, so their role with respect to monetary policy. Our
role is with respect to fiscal policy. The two have
to work together. That's why you're seeing good spending discipline
from our government, which is helping contribute to lower inflation.
We changed the mandate. I saw Liam Dan saying he
didn't think that was a good thing on the weekend,
but the reality is it was because we needed a
single focus on inflation, which actually is the as the

(53:38):
precursor to lowering interest rates. But look, we got two
cuts potentially before Christmas. That would be a good thing.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Okay the Tennis roof and I know this didn't get
as much coverage. Its great, it is great. But what
I can't understand, having been to that facility many times
over the years, is why does something that only cost
fifteen million dollars take takes so much time.

Speaker 21 (53:59):
Yeah, I mean I've watched that tournament for years. I
remember two years ago it got rained out. They end
up having to televise from an indoor practiced stadium, and
you go, it's just not a good projection of New
Zealand to the world. The other thing is those events
are under huge attraction from other cities around the world
as well, and actually the standard keeps being lifted each
and every time, so that roof idea is not just

(54:20):
similar to what exists in Adelaide or Queens Queen's Queensland.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Similar things exist.

Speaker 21 (54:25):
It's a no brainer, right, I mean, it's fifteen million dollars,
five from US, five from the council, five from tennis.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
And let's get the thing hard.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Can it be tap into your business leadership? How would
you handle the Nolinta situation.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
It's a difficult one.

Speaker 21 (54:40):
I mean, obviously there's a lot of legal issues going
on there, and there's people who are silenced and can't
say what they should they be well, I mean I
don't think we I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Actually I've tried to sort of follow it.

Speaker 21 (54:49):
From the house side, just as a fan and as
a as a curiosity, but I can't work out what
the actual problem actually is and no one's talking about it.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
You're the chief executive. So a couple of players come
to you, a couple of employees come to you and go,
we don't like the boss, and you drag the boss
in and she goes. You can get stuffed. I do
things the way I do it. Take it a level
would well as a see I'd have a pretty clear
view as well.

Speaker 21 (55:11):
I think that manager is doing a great job or
otherwise job. And as to the employees, we might have
a different conversation. Exactly my manager, who I've put into
that job, I'm backing them.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Okay, so you would back the coach in other words, well,
I mean you've employed the coach to do a job,
and that coach is there will.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Be lots of times, you know, employees don't like their boss.
I get all that.

Speaker 21 (55:30):
I'm just saying, from my point of view, i'd want
to understand the manager where they're coming from, what the
employees concerns are. I'd raise that with a manager, the
things that they could do differently or better, it's no different.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
How long should we give how long should a meeting
go on for if you have it, they had a
ten hour meeting. A number of meetings is like a
long time, one of which was ten hours long. Has
has the leadership been lost at that point? If you're
having ten hour meetings and I'm not going to comment
on this, you're dragging me into this.

Speaker 21 (55:58):
But from a process point of view, sit there and
go there's no way a ten hour meetings that is
what you need it all.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
You shouldn't have any meaning.

Speaker 21 (56:03):
It goes along the half an hour in my view,
maybe an hour at most. But I just be very
clear about you want to know your people, and so
for me, you know, it's the same way I think
about my ministers. It's like I know their strengths, their weaknesses,
will have conversations about what they're doing well and encourage
them on that and things that they need to step
up and do better. And if you've got that feedback culture,

(56:24):
that should be pretty straightforward, you know. And likewise you
take the feedback from employees. I always used to have
something called three sixty feedback, so you employees would talk
about their managers and what they did well, what they
didn't do well. They'd take that on borders feedback to
develop and grow. But you know so I don't know.
I don't know the specifics.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
This one appreciated.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Thanks for dragging me into It's always a fun session on.

Speaker 14 (56:47):
Is work for me?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
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Speaker 2 (56:54):
That'd be neither way, Mike, the parents of children. I
know there are children that haven't drifted into unemployment. Their
children are not for want of trying, have not been
able to find employment, all trying to find employment in
jobs that simply don't exist, and we wonder why they're
off to Australia. There is an element of this. There's
never a great time to do what the government are doing.
It's particularly bad time at the moment given the employment.
But you can always if you want. Here's my lesson

(57:16):
in life. If you want to find an excuse, you
will always be able to find one, Mike, this netball
thing is being treated like it's a major news story.
Do you hand on heart honestly believe the greater population
of New Zealand really cares about all of this? Jonathan,
not a bad question. The answer in a moment eight
to eight.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
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Speaker 2 (57:41):
Could rather hear about the nipples story than hear about
those stupid people on a boat going to Gaza, Mike,
well known supermarket chain in Australia have clocks in their meetings.
Red zone at forty five minutes year ten hours is
observed this netball thing. So do I, hand on heart,
honestly believe the greater population in New Zealand really cares
about alls. I'd say yes, Jonathan, not necessarily passionately, not obsessively,

(58:04):
not endlessly standing around the water cooler and discussing it.
But it's of interest to us all for those of
us who are interested in two things, one performance and success,
and for those of us who like Noling Taru, who's
made no small contribution to the sports she loves. And
it interests me that a person who has that level
of standing can be treated so badly for such a

(58:27):
sustained period of time, with nothing conclusive at the end
of it. And so what increasingly fascinates me about the
story is not just the standoff between some of the
players and the coach, but the third branch of it.
Now just the sheer straight up and down ineptitude of
a group of people within Netball New Zealand that don't

(58:47):
seem to know how to bring this to some sort
of resolution. This is potentially a smallish issue that has
grown exponentially, completely and utterly out of control, and none
of us seem to understand it. It's one of those
classic stories whereby it starts off as one thing and
turns into something completely different. So that's my interest in it.

(59:07):
I'm just after people being treated well, and good people
being treated very well because they deserve it. So it
seems to me at this particular point in times, she's
on the on the on on a sad ending after
having contributed no small amount to her sport in the
national the national game at the highest level, speaking of which,
the All Blacks we got there. In the end we
work out who won and who didn't win. By the way,

(59:28):
so I was right about Australia, so two from two,
so that's good. So I win that part. Sam was right,
Glenn was wrong. So does that make Sam the winner
over all? Should we give Sam the price?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Sam?

Speaker 14 (59:38):
I think Sam and I are even, aren't we are?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Even? So you said you said we'd lose both South Africa,
so you kind of been right there. And you said
we'd lose one Argentina, so you were right there. So
you were right until you were wrong with South Africa.
But you said we'd win it would lose one Australian,
which we didn't. So Sam's only got one wrong. I
declare Sam win. I declare Sam the winner. I'm just
not used to Sam no correspondence being interested into.

Speaker 14 (01:00:02):
I No, No, that's the winner.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
That's the end of it. Sam's the winner. More sport
for you. Shortly, I'm asking the questions.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Right Oh. Jason pines with us along with Andrew Sevil.
Good Mornings, Morning, Mike, Andrew. Your highlight of the weekend
sporting wise was.

Speaker 23 (01:01:11):
I'd say the Rugby League last night. The performance of
Ree Walsh brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Worth watching the highlights just for that day. There's something
he can drink as much toilet water as he wants,
because when you're that good, you can take nothing away
from him.

Speaker 23 (01:01:26):
Looks a bit, he's a bit out there, but every time,
I mean they lost, they lost their half back and
stand off to injury. So Walsh took over in the
last ten or fifteen and led them to the victory,
not only on attack with his stepping and passing and
some of those missout passes he was thrown were just extraordinary,
but also his defense was outstanding, the last line of defense.

(01:01:49):
If only he had stated the Warriors, I wonder what
would have become of him, he would be a superstar.
To imagine with the Warriors, whatever team he goes to,
I think he'd be a superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
He seems. But Jason than I remember I watched him.
I watched the highlights, and that one of the tricks
he scored, he broke through. By the time the two
were on top of him as he crossed the line,
he'd broken through five tackles and most of that was
strength as opposed to stepping. And so he was he
is he beefed up?

Speaker 13 (01:02:17):
Or oh, I think they just stay in pretty good shape,
don't they, those guys? But yeah, he maybe it is
a bit bigger. Look, I thought it was a terrific
Grand Final in the Broncos. I mean you think of
where they were outside the top eight in June and
get to the top four till what sort of late August.
They were down and out against the Raiders, came back
and won that fourteen down and halftime against the Panthers

(01:02:39):
last week, came back and won that. And yeah, last night,
what a terrific game. And look, I think we can
all be really happy for Michael McGuire. Yes, obviously you
know the key week connection there, So yeah, I was delighted.
And what a great, great finish to what's been a
terrific season.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Right, No, I reckon it has been a terrific season
as well as as regards the All Blacks. Sav I
don't see Perth as a rainy sort of place, and
that was kind of disappointing.

Speaker 23 (01:03:04):
It was bizarre. It never rains in Perth, is it?
And then all of a sudden you've got a soggy game.
I think the All Blacks played pretty well. They defended
well only considering one tribes, probably their best effort for
some time under Scott Robertson. Still there's still a couple
of gears lacking in this team. I thought Quintupaire played outstanding.

(01:03:28):
That forward's okay, Yes, there was a it was a victory. Yes,
it meant some consistency with two wins in a row
and what has been a topsy turvy, tough competition. But
I think there's still definitely some room from provemn Are.
They're going to have to improve a step of Ireland
in Chicago and then those Northern teams up there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
So who, Jason are we looking at? I mean, as
Ireland will be Ireland, so that's a genuine test. I'm
not sure playing it in Chicago is the greatest thing
in the world. So who else are we looking at? England?
And in England any good at the moment or no?

Speaker 13 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I think they're They're the other one, aren't they. Yeah,
Island will be the big Test and it's interest say
that's first, then Scotland, then England and then Wales to
finish her course at terrible. So yeah, I think it's
the it's the England, it's the England. Game on with
sav I thought they well, I thought Australia had their
poorest Test for a while. They really, I think let
themselves down on the second half. I loved watching Quincypire

(01:04:18):
play at center. Who knew we could play center? I
don't think we anyone thought that thirteen was his position
and I thought, yeah. I thought Damien McKenzie had a
mixed night as well, So there's still some questions. It
doesn't feel like the all Backs will run over the
top of teams like they used to. And we've talked
about this a lot. Yeah, let's see how they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Go, Andrew just before we leave Rugby and get on
to Nolan.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
The positive mic.

Speaker 23 (01:04:41):
The positive mic is that they won that close game,
and they won what was a close game in Perth,
so they've had trouble finishing games in the recent past.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
But I think that's a ticket for them as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Just quickly before we get to Nolan after the break.
But this R three sixty do you, I mean, it's
it's it's like, is this going anywhere?

Speaker 23 (01:05:01):
Well, it's the Australian scene to think it is. And
they're looking at a few league players I know from
what I'm hearing, four or five All blacks if they
haven't signed, being looked at very intensively. But and there
is some big backing apparently from which includes the Saudis.

(01:05:21):
But I don't And it's supposed to start next October
this time next year. Yeah, but I'll believe it when
I see it. Hitters behind it, there's some backers behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
But yeah, but that's the reason I asked Jason, I mean,
when you got the Saudis. The Saudis are serious and
there's no shortage of funds. I just can't work out
why I would watch. There's no reason to, you know,
invented teams and one of them's in London, one of
them's and wherever. It's like, who cares?

Speaker 13 (01:05:48):
Yeah, And I think also the fact that they're targeting
league players in Australia tells you what you need to
know about a rugby competition. Every All Black, every new
Zealand player who knew would be one signed to the
next World Cup signs to the next World Cup. So
any anyone who's going to play our three sixty from
from New Zealand is going to have to be on
that World Cup. Look, I a king, I don't know

(01:06:11):
whether money is absolutely coming from fifteen million per team
is the budget I'm hearing? So there's some money to
throw around, not the all Blacks frame. Why wouldn't you
have a look at it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, okay, brief break more in a moment, and Jason
will put ten cents in his WAPs aff account and
see if you can't improve the sound. Andrew Savel Jason Pine.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Right, Oh, Andrew, give us you the knolling to I mean,
what I was trying to say before eight o'clock is
you've got the two things. You've got the scrap itself,
but you've also got now the so called leadership or
the handling of the scrap, and the handling part has
become fascical, hasn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
It's been it's been very poor.

Speaker 23 (01:07:00):
You surely this should have been sort of out months
ago if it happened, and yes, it did happen months ago.
The the the reason why there was a review undertaken
happened months ago. I just get the fit look hiding
behind this employment process in this corporate jargon which Netbull

(01:07:20):
seems to do at the moment, is ridiculous, that there
needs to be more transparency, and yes there's there's legal
issues and da da da da dah. But Mike, this
is that this is a very public team. This is
a national team that uses and the sport uses taxpayer
money to help fund the game. Don't have an issue
with that, but when something like this happens, the public,

(01:07:43):
the fans, the players of netball around the country deserve
much better.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
I just get the feeling that.

Speaker 23 (01:07:52):
Maybe certain people want Dame Noling to resign rather than
going to say looking around and carrying on. And maybe
that's to do with payouts. I'm not too sure, but
you just get that feeling that they're just pushing, pushing,
pushing Jason.

Speaker 13 (01:08:09):
I just think it's a tremendously sad set of circumstances
and I can't see Dame Nolen coming back now, can you.
I mean, if they can't sort out the issues in
three or four days of mediation, then are they going
to be able to The corporate speak as you say, Mike,
is just it's just so difficult to listen to. I
had Jinny Wiley on the show yesterday. In goodness me,

(01:08:32):
I can't remember a more corporate speak CEO interview than
the one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
That do you know, I don't know her. I've only
dealt with that.

Speaker 24 (01:08:39):
I know her, No, don't know her.

Speaker 13 (01:08:41):
Look and look say what you like about about her
and about the people involved with the process. You're right,
it's terrible. The process is absolutely appalling. We've got to
a stage now where as I say, I don't think
Dame Nolen's coming back, I don't think they'll find a
way now to get her back, and how are you
going to handle it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
But how they're going to explain it? So so Sam,
you've got you've got one of the great names in
New Zealand sport, one of the most successful exponents of
the art and suddenly she's just going to go on.
Dame Nolan's leaving her. She and that's the end of that.

Speaker 23 (01:09:15):
Yeah, well, if that happens, they are going to have
to come out and tell us what happened. And again
I've told you this numerous times. My understanding is it's
just a few players. There's a heck of a lot
of support in that team. The Dame Nolean Tobruin what
she has done for a lot of players and what
she's done for this team. Jason, I heard that interview
driving yesterday and she whiz almost drove off the road

(01:09:37):
a couple of times with frustration.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
Yeah. Yeah, just the hiding behind the cop or not hiding,
but the confidential If I hear the word confidentiality one
more time, it'll be it'll be too soon. Yeah. Look,
I get it. I get the employment side of it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
I get that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:52):
You know, perhaps it's some of it's not none of
our business, but a lot of it is our business.
This is a team we've cheered for, supported paid for
through our tax B dollars. We need more transparency. We
need to know what the issues are, who they pertain to,
how many players are involved, and when there's a resolution
in our future.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
I thought the Prime Minister was.

Speaker 23 (01:10:11):
This was the all Blacks and this is where they
know we'd be tearing them a new one, mate, we'd
be tearing them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
It's it's they're lucky. They're a smaller type sport. Which
is the other interesting aspect to my mind, Andrew, and
that is this is a sport already in trouble and
what it needs less of is even more trouble.

Speaker 23 (01:10:30):
Yep. I mean when you say it's a small sport,
it's still numbers at the lower level are still booming, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
But that's that's not nothing to do with it. I
mean that's like talking about football. Those kids play football.

Speaker 23 (01:10:41):
All those players, all those kids, coaches, all the fans
of the silver Ferns and nipple around the country.

Speaker 5 (01:10:46):
And yes there's still a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Yeah, I couldn't agree. I think we're all in agreement
on that. Just quickly, do either of you know about
the breakers and why they're so useless.

Speaker 13 (01:10:56):
I'll be watching them. We love that basketball at our place,
but man, and they they they have been very poor
for four games under new ownership, which is odd. I
thought that would reinvigorate them hasn't really yet. Look long season,
but yeah, I need to get need to get a
move on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
You're watching Andrew.

Speaker 23 (01:11:16):
Yeah, a little bits here and there, Mike, Yeah, a
lot of new not on new players or players that
have played a lot together, but years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
Some new faces.

Speaker 23 (01:11:26):
Yeah, I'm I'm pretty Look this coach is very good
from my understanding, from what I've heard, and he's been there,
was there last season. Retained by the new owners. I
think they will probably turn it around.

Speaker 15 (01:11:37):
They just.

Speaker 14 (01:11:40):
Have you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Have you listened at length to Taylor Swift? Jason?

Speaker 13 (01:11:47):
No, is the answer, not at least or even at whatever,
the opposite of the listeners. And in a short way,
I'm aware of it. I'm aware of it.

Speaker 23 (01:11:57):
But and he's still on dial up Jason, I'm seeing
to me sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:12:06):
Don't don't send me a message on messer?

Speaker 13 (01:12:08):
Can you fax me?

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
So? Do you think he's going to listen to Taylor
Swift online?

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
It's a very good point.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
A lot of your music mic is now sounding very
very very samy, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Well, so's Hugh Grant. But they didn't hold him back,
is it? I mean, you know said stick to your
stick to your you know what you do best. You
know what I'm saying. I mean, I've looked at some
of your bullets and seven I'm saying to myself, haven't
I seen this before? You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
And that's why, that's why we love you. Because you're
full of variety. Mate, You're full of variety.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
You even know you never know what exactly, you never
know what's next. Nice to see you, Andrew Sable, Jason
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Silver fans be worth having a poll, wouldn't it when
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Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Well who we've found, Steve Price, morning.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
To you, very good moll. Then great to be back.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Then, how was it?

Speaker 13 (01:16:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
I love sicily for three reasons you can smoke wherever
you like. In Italy, you can speed as fast as
you like in your car, and you can shout at
people in the street and no one cares.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
The three essays of sicily fantastic And did you drink
a lot and eat a lot and all that?

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Every day, twice a day without fail.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yes, there we go, and the weather was still good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Twenty six seven beautiful, great, Too many tourists off cruise ships,
that's the only problem, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Oh well, I'm glad you had a very good time.
Now back here, I read some quarterly polling and it
was for the quarter and the suggestion was, and this
is at federal political level, the inferencing to be that
Susan Lay was trending slowly but surely better, but her
party wasn't. So what does this morning's poll.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Tell us, Well, the Newspop says not that. The Newspop
says that one nation is the big winner. They've got
a primary boat now of eleven percent. That's the highest
primary vote Appauline Hanson's had since July twenty seventeen. The
reasons that date is important, that's when Malcolm Turnbull was
in the lodge as the prime Minister. So that's saying

(01:17:12):
that the people who would normally support the coalition are
drifting towards other conservative parties and of course at the
other end of the teals because they don't like the
wet leadership of the Liberal Party. As it stands. Currently,
Labour's thirty seven percent primary vote highest since they won,
hit thirty eight percent in June twenty twenty three, Albanis's

(01:17:33):
approval ratings through the roof. She Susan Lee has a
real problem. She's lost Andrew Hasty off the front bench,
obviously from my sas commander, who is a wamp, and
of course we have sent a nampertimper Price. She's off
the front bench as well. I don't think, Susan, they
will last. I think that they will leave her there,

(01:17:55):
probably for a year, and then they're going to have
to do something very radical, of which which I'll have
something to say to you about next week. I'm just
trying to form a theory in my head about what
they should do.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
All right, we'll look forward to that. Meantime, we've got
October seven coming up, of course, and you've had as
much ankst as anybody in Australia, haven't you. Over the
last couple of.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
Years, it's been really bad for everybody and the Jewish
community obviously with the anniversary tomorrow, are really deciding to
amp the pressure on the Albanezy government. Now they appointed
a woman as the as the Australian Jewish Ambassador to
basically do a report into how anti Semitism got out

(01:18:35):
of control in Australia. Her name is Julia Siegel. Now
her report was handed down in July and nothing's been done.
I mean, concerns have been obviously pounded by anti Israel
protesters every weekend. You've got a planned protest for the
Opera House tomorrow in Sydney, and Julian Sigela herself has said, well,

(01:18:57):
hang on what you've done with my report? She told
The Australian on the weekend. It was time Albanezi in
his government reviewed publicly what actions they were actually taking.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
She said.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
In July one, I released a plan to combat anti Semitism.
It includes concrete actions to address the root causes of
anti Semitism and restore the Australian Jewish community confidence. I
was grateful the Prime Minister's president at the launch. But
what's happened. Nothing and so Australia Jews are really very
angry about what's gone on in this country the last

(01:19:28):
two years.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Interesting. So I dismissed you, and I think I've told
you I dismissed you in the early conspiracy theory part
of your pstre But the more this goes on and
the more incidents there are, your case becomes boring on
being insurmountable. I would have thought, It's like, I mean,
how many times does it need to happen for somebody
to go this is not right?

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Lap one Norris obviously coming down the inside as our
boy tries to go around the outside of a staff
and then Norris clips into oscars car, obviously causing him
to drop back to forces, which is where he finished.
They're trying to get Lando across the line. I mean,
I told you this. You are an F one offician,

(01:20:10):
and you know you know about how motor racing works.
You've got eyes there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
The swapping of the places since you said it initially,
the swapping of the place is the radio chat and this,
and he clearly wasn't happy. He's still leading and they
won the constructors, so that they'll be happy about the Constructors
but it's an interesting scenario, isn't it. You got jet lag,
got jet leg?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Does it sound like it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
No, it does not remotely. It's just I just wanted
people at the front of the plane. Do you Is
it true what they say about the front of the plane?
You know, and it's like you don't have jet leg
at the front of the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
They're good those little private cabin rooms. You decide the
door and not talk to anyone for the whole time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
See Wednesday appreciated Steve Price out of Australia just before
we leave. By the way, is again the weirdest story.
So just in one day. One was on Saturday. One
was on Sunday. So on Saturday, a Royal ran Mark Latham,
once leader of the Labour Party of Australia. He's now
threatening legal action because he was escorted by police from

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the Royal Randwick Golf cour racecourse. He was asked to
lead by management, he refused. He was at the EPSOM
Day racing event on Saturday. He was at the Grandview
restaurant and you think, well, why are they booting him out? Well,
he's not allowed on the racetrack. After he resigned his
ATC membership amid an investigation into his alleged verbal abuse
of a club official at Rosehill Racecourse back in April,

(01:21:31):
so he entered the racecourse as a guest of another member,
thought he'd get away with it, but he didn't, so
they booted him out, so he wasn't happy. Meantime, his
ex girlfriend, who was a woman called Natalie Matthews who
spent a little bit of time in the porn arena,
she arrived. She arrived back in the country on a
plane and upon leaving that said plane, she was arrested

(01:21:54):
and taking a mascot police station and charged with access
and modifying restricted data held in computer and potentially recording
our intimate images without consent and intentionally distributing intimate images
without consent. She's appearing today at the Paramatta Local Court.
It's not clear whether her revenge pawn activities involve the

(01:22:15):
aforementioned mister Latham, but needless to say, they're not together anymore.
She's in trouble and he's been booted out of the racecourse.
And he was once potentially a man who was going
to lead Australia. Sixteen two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
B thirteen away from nine. By the way, I forget
to raise it with Steve, but remember Daisy Freeman. This
is a very good example of the news cycle. Remember
Dessi Freeman, who's Deassy Freeman. Deasy Freeman's guy has shot
a couple of police people and then disappeared into the bush.
What's happened to him? The answers who would know? Have
you heard any coverage of late No, you have not.
He's been gone for a couple of months now. They

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offered a million dollars and they've got police everyone, They
had the military, and they had the helicopters in the air,
and they found them though they haven't now they guess
what they're doing now, they're scaling down the search. So
I'm assuming they're not giving up the search. But this
because I suddenly over the weekend I thought to himself
that Deisi Freeman story, what happened to that? So one
hundred a round and as of Friday they were looking

(01:23:16):
to scale down the search, so which means I don't
think they're giving up, but obviously they must be close
to thinking he's either scarf but there was a theory
early on he had died because he escaped down a
river allegedly, or one of the stories was he escaped
down a river and that was they were sort of
looking locally on land, but there was a river and
it'd used it many times before. Apparently you jump on

(01:23:36):
a kayak and next thing you know, you have a couple.

Speaker 18 (01:23:38):
Of That's a real end of season cliffhanger, that isn't it?
You jump off for what happened to the river?

Speaker 14 (01:23:44):
Are they dead? Are they not dead?

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Season two? Yeah? Fair point Black Rabbit. By the way,
just while I'm on I mentioned I mentioned that last
week I think did a lot of talk about is
there a season two? I can't see how there's the
season two? You know how there are some programs where
you could see a season two, others you can't see
your season two. The other one was The Girlfriend. I
watched though I can't see the season two for the
Girlfriend because the main character dies. So how can you

(01:24:07):
have season two when the main character dies?

Speaker 14 (01:24:09):
Well, spoilers everyone, sorry, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
The main character in Black Rabbit dies as well.

Speaker 18 (01:24:13):
Oh wow, there goes my week's watching down the Gurgler.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Now it's cool.

Speaker 18 (01:24:18):
Could they not sort of Marvel Universe it and just say,
but what if there was a parallel dimension where they
didn't die?

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yeah, I don't just don't think that works.

Speaker 14 (01:24:25):
So what that's what they did on Peacekeeper.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
On a restaurant in New York. Somehow I may have.

Speaker 14 (01:24:31):
Run that for peace for the Peacekeeper fans now that
I think of it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
So that's three programmes we've just run just like that,
three point nine to nine. So I'm reading over the weekend.
This goes to Wednesday. The Reserve Bank suggestion from loan
market mortgage advisor David Williams is we're going to need
to get to three nine nine if things don't pick up.
That's that's your retail rate. That's your mortgage rate, three
nine nine. Nick Tuffley asb he's told you what he
said last week. We need to hit the gas harder.

(01:24:55):
He reckons two point two five. That's the cash rate
by Christmas. So you got four ffty points and they're
Callie Cold of Westpack he reckons fifty points. I think
Sharon zohln as she said it was she could see
it either way, but probably favors twenty five squirrel mortgages
rates needed to be three nine nine for people to

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start spending again. So in other words, it's psychological and
until you see something. And this is the other argument
we've got at the moment. So say old Christian comes
out on Wednesday and he goes twenty five. For now
you know another's twenty five is coming, So why are
you doing anything until Christian's God has act together in
November and told you other twenty five. What they need
to do is come out and say here's the number,

(01:25:35):
and we're done. It's over. This is as good as
it gets at that point, I think we fire into
life day.

Speaker 18 (01:25:41):
It thinks you'd be going into house negotiations with people saying, oh,
this is my best price and the other person go okay.

Speaker 14 (01:25:49):
Because that's never gonna happen either that true.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Anyway, we'll see what happens Wednesday, ten away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Interesting stands and over the weekend. So New Zealand's largest
owner of liquor retailers a company called Tasman Liquor Company.
So they've got three hundred and seventy shops around the country.
So you got your liquor seine to the liquor spot,
the bottle, oh, all that sort of stuff. So the
revenue at two seventy million is down. I'm just interested
in where we're at with the drinking in this country.
Gross profits down a little bit. The Auckland stores they

(01:26:23):
think could have been affected. The local council changed some
rules around when you can buy booze and stuff, and
they think that might have affected them a little bit.
Beer one spirits consumption generally has declined to its lowest
levels since data was first collected. They don't tell me
when that was. It was probably twenty twenty one. Anyway.
In twenty twenty four, which is last year, average number

(01:26:45):
of standard drinks are day per person in this country
was one point eight which is down four point eight
percent and a five point four decrease since twenty twenty two.
So we materially drink less since twenty ten. So, in
other words, the last fifteen years, the average number of
standard drinks a day has fallen twenty percent. That's a
lot drinking less. So where is it all gone? Well,

(01:27:08):
low carbs, the old low car beers up through the
twelve percent increase in those sort of sales in the
last year two hundred and seventy five million dollars worth
of business. Here is the really big one. The volume
of low and zero alcohol beer consumed has increased seven
one hundred and fifty percent in the last six years.
That's a material societal shift.

Speaker 18 (01:27:31):
So is that because there wasn't any eight years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
That's a good question, and I just wonder if they're
so did you meet the demand? In other words, were
people drinking nothing or water and then the zero came along?
Said you think, well, imas will drink that? So you
met the demand? Or did they come along and you go, well,
maybe I can look like him drinking, but then I'll
drink the zero. But we're drinking less. I'm drinking less.

(01:27:54):
I've never drink less than my life. I don't know
if I'm better for it. Some days I think I'm
better for it. Other days I think now I'm not
better for it at all. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
So Tea Swift the new album. The general consensus, it's
not really the general consensus. I don't know why. Sam
writes this, the general consensus involves a conversation between me,
Sam to a lesser extinct Glynn because he hated every
moment of it, and Jason the boss. So that is
what see. This is where journalism's gone so wrong. So

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Sam took that as the general consensus.

Speaker 14 (01:28:32):
I felt like, this is where journalism guess it's right.

Speaker 18 (01:28:35):
Okay, it's when you wash everything down with actual facts
and data.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Four standout songs. The rest is anyway. We've got some
fans who aren't happy. They claiming she's gone from being
nice to being mean and snarky with this new album.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
I just don't think that this album was a hit one.
It sounded like something you would met with the Casio
keyboard in your room when you were in haste. We
didn't get a good flow on the storytelling, and I
felt like each song had a little bit too much
of an influence from other popular artists.

Speaker 24 (01:29:08):
When you are sad, there is just so much more
shades of gray and there's a lot of variation that
the feelings can be expressed through. And with happiness, it's
a lot more difficult to write about it. Well, yes,
I've been at Taylor Swift fan no, I don't give
a show about her new album and I will not
be listening to it.

Speaker 18 (01:29:26):
All of the songs on the album sound way too
similar to each other.

Speaker 15 (01:29:30):
Remember like my.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
God, remember a song lasting Iver?

Speaker 14 (01:29:35):
Do you remember.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Jeez Eldest Duelter? I think is my favorite. I might
be wrong on the Ophelia on Punt, but the oldest
little was in clent. Some is quinite good anyway, that
is as for the due back tomorrow morning from six
as always, any of the hot to his love.

Speaker 11 (01:29:56):
Was the key that opened my eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Give me it sounds he advertise me and opened my eyes.
Rudwood trade and heart to see his love was the
key that opened my thighs.

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