Full Show Podcast: 07 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking
Breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and
use togs, dead be welling and.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to Day to Cox and China. How bigger winners
this for them? How bigger hit to rask the foreign
ministers with us? The newt unemployment rate is twenty three percent.
Not surprisingly it's a record accountants, the survey tells us
in a shedload more across the Tasman the week with
Tim Katy being a Friday, Richard Arnold with more Trump
fun Murray Olds does Fridays in oz Hosky Welcome to

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the day. The peran Aura performance the Seymour reaction a
both indicative. I would have thought of all that is
wrong with this country in terms of race relations. It
is not harmonious race relations. It is not well debated,
it's not cordial. It is not better than it has been.
The PM seems to get at Seymour, doesn't There's no
point in heading north each year for goodness, Aki simply
treated poorly by rude people this year and Seymour's speech

(00:52):
have you missed it all? The mic was removed twice
the backs were turned, the people tried to sing over
the top of them. It's the same old, same old.
There's always a grievance, there's always somebody to hate on.
They defend it by telling you how angry they are
this year it's the Principal's bill. But at no point
does anyone accept that just because you'd disagree doesn't mean
you have to be rude. Rudeness is not justified simply
because you are on the opposite side of the debate

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of the page. It is why most of us have
tuned out of the National Day a long time ago.
Then the Rugby Union the guardians of our national game.
The Peranara scenario unfolded because we live in the country
where MARI issues are too often acquiesced to in an
excessive manner. Peranara is just a player and a player
and a team. His race does not trump the team.
And yet it's very clear, as per the story on Wednesday,

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that he was allowed to blackmail a woke collective into
a sort of submission. The NZAU was woke enamored by
the modern day practices because it's inept and has been
for years. Organizations, groups and businesses who are not sure
of themselves, sway in the wind, and as such are
captured by whatever's currently call maray them in public life
or public service or the zeitgeist. For a while got cool.

(01:55):
Everyone had to say chioa, call it the motu token.
It up to look like you were part of the gang.
That tide has turned, or if it's not turned, its turning.
But because the ends are were submerged in it, the
Peranara scenario was allowed to unfold with all the indecision
and panics so eloquently recounted in the story. If you
haven't read it, it's as much about Peranara and as
arrogance as it is about governance and ineptitude, whether in

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White Hangey or in this case Turin, it is this
sort of nonsense that prevents progress, and we are all
paying the price.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now, before the Trumpster turns Gaza into the Riviera, he
has promised to get all the hostages back. So this
morning's press service he laid down a bit of law.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
I made a statement. I meant it totally that if
they're not at home by the time I get into office,
all hell will breakless in the Middle East, and I
think their respect to that statement.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
So we'll see as regards the construction site or the
ethnic cleansing plan of some prefer to see it. Not surprisingly,
despite the fact he said everyone loves it, they don't.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
This land is an oots for us and it's not
owned by Israel ill to get it away. This is
owned by the palestinis E israel Ilies are the ones
who are occupier of this land.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
At the UN headquarters that down appear ivy leagues in
the search for solutions.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
We must not make the problem worse.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
It is vital to stay true to the bedrock of
international law.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
It is essential to avoid any form of ethnic cleansing.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
It's not all bad news. Yesterday he did sign off
another executive order, this one about men playing women's sport.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
Now, I don't want anyone not to be involved in sport,
but what I do think is fair is that that
fifty one percent gets the opportunity to have fair and
safe sport. And that's really what I've been speaking about
to Britain.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
With the Bank of England hairsurb and I cant the
right to drop the growth projection started fretting again about inflation.

Speaker 8 (03:51):
We live in an uncertain world, and the road ahead
will have bumps on it. We expect inflation to increase
this year to a peak of about three point seven
percent before returning to the two percent targets, and we
will sat bank rate to ensure that it does so sustainably.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And then we had the Super Bowl this Monday. Of course,
teams were in New Orleans and the hypers in full
sweet a lot of talk about pressure.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
I'm so focused on just the process of making the
best play possible for the team, and you don't worry
about the moment or where you're at, the environment or
anything like that. You just go out there and just
go about your process, step by step, through your checklist
and then make the play happen.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's big, Pat if you didn't recognize the voice. Finally,
cat trubs in Scotland. Independent experts put out a report
saying that cats were a major threat to Scotland's wildlife,
they killed seven hundred million birds every year and they
needed to be contained. Our government said that fully consider
the recommendations, which included putting restrictions on households owning a cat.
Well queue the fury and the immediate withdrawal saying the

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government will not be in cats and we have no
intention of doing so, so use the world of ninety seconds. Yeah,
they cut the twenty five. They're at four point five,
which is worse than us, of course, so they really
are a basket case at the moment. Mind you, they
do have growth. Even though they hard the forecast. It
was going to be they thought one point five percent,
they now think it'll be zero point seven five percent.
Twelve past six, the.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
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Speaker 2 (05:15):
Zeb South Korea. Two point two percent?

Speaker 10 (05:20):
Is that bad?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's inflation year a little bit higher than their thoughts
are running a bit hot. Argentina saw what Trump did
with the who, so they pulled the plug as well.
Fifteen past six, Well, we do have also a leaked
it has claimed peace planned for Ukraine. So I'll work
you through that shortly. Meantime from Devon Fund's Management Group Smith, morning.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
To you, Good morning to my trade talk.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Lots of it, of course, but Huawei they seem to
be doing okay.

Speaker 11 (05:44):
Yeah, they seemed to be for sure, so you have
to see where it all goes. Of course, with the
tars and obviously China's and focus given that pause on
Kenna and Mexico. But when you think about it, you
these frictions against Chinese companies are not anything particularly new,
and you know, Huawei has been for quite a while.
So it's quite interesting that the companies revealed that it's
revenue exceeded eight hundred and sixty billion one and twenty

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twenty four. That's around one hundred and eighten billion dollars.
But the interesting thing is that's up twenty two percent
on twenty twenty three. It's actually the fastest growth since
twenty sixteen. And yeah, those restrictions that the US have
been placed on their ability to get tech from your supplies,
it's actually been there since twenty nineteen, so they've been
down with headwinds for some time. But yeah, they continue

(06:28):
to take market cheer from Apple. Seems it was a
bit of a backlash, I suppose, as you'd expect, particularly
in China. So their shipments and mainland China are up
thirty seven percent, so they've gone from fourth in terms
of market cheer to seconds. They've jumped Apple, who's got
seventeen percent there. Their brands are sort of flying off
the shelves men. We look at Apple. Obviously they caught
in the crosses, aren't they, And they rely heavily on

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China for their manufacturing, so in theory they could shift
some to lights in India, but you know, it's going
to be hugely disruptive, so we have to see what
happens they of course, last last time around, you know,
Tim Cookie actually mentioned to get a product exemption to
the viet metter, so that could be on the cards
a game. But also wonder this all could provide a
bit of an edge to Samsung. So most of their
manufacturing is actually outside of China and known placed like

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Vietnam and India. So yeah, lots of interesting but yeah,
while we're doing pretty well.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Okay, so that's tech. What about cars and Ford.

Speaker 11 (07:18):
Yeah, obviously they're caught up in metters as well, so
the execs are pretty sort of quiet on metas initially.
And yeah, certainly the tariffs in the in the current
form would impact a lot of vehicles, around over fifteen
million in the US six years. Some estimates that, yeah,
the price of an average car would get by three thousand,
So yeah, forwards out without their numbers, they actually beat

(07:38):
expectations on revenue unions. But they did flag a tough
year ahead, and that's also without even factoring in what
happens on the tariffront. So they reckon earnings of seven
to eight and a half billion this year. That's down
from teen and twenty twenty four. They're sort of taking,
suppose an easy view at the moment to you know,
how the tariffs play out. They're waiting for more clarity,

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and I suppose it's what a lot of companies are
having to deal with, right It's a bit of a
moving feast. They fought unformed a bit this last year
due to recalls and the like. And the other interesting
thing just away from the trade side, Mike, was the EV's.
So their model ee V business lost five billion last year,
and it lost one point four billion in the fourth quarter,

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and they reckon they go it was the same amount
in twenty twenty five. So the EV's, we know, great
in theory, but yeah, the battery distance, battery life, lack
of grunt, it's just not living up to expectations. But
the thing that is actually going pretty well, Mike, our hybrids,
and they actually sold double the number of those compete
evs last year. She's actually down six percent. That was
mainly around sort of the comments about the outlock and

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obviously the tariff uncertainty, and another all that was also
feeling the pressure a little bit was Vulva, even more
so in across Atlanta. Those years were down to eleven percent.
They said they're considering relocating production supplies, and they're also
faced with hyper competitives, competitiveness from China. So you have
plenty of head wins for the auto sector.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, okay, So Disney's interesting. So Moana was a hit,
we know that, but the subscribe they're losing subscribers.

Speaker 11 (09:09):
Yeah, they certainly are on terms of Disney Plus. But yeah,
the box office success, that's really helping them out. One
and two. I thought that was a pretty good good
Flecker features Maocy can't complain about that, but that topped
a billion dollars at the box office. But that was
their third movie that that topped that. Mars they also
had Paul Maulveren, he had Inside and Out two. So
all going pretty well there and that helped their operating

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income for the late last quarter surge thirty eight percent,
revenues up five percent, twenty four point seven billion, and
you look at also how offsets and headwinds at the
theme parks. They are impacted by hurricanes. They're continuing to
invest there and in fact they're rolling out some more
cruise ships and the likes. So that's all going pretty well.
But yeah, the Disney pluses is not going so well.

(09:50):
So subscribers, they slipped one percent from the prior quarter
to one hundred and twenty four point six million out
But but like Netflix, they put up prices around about
twenty percent, but it hasn't gone as well for them.
Still quite profitable operating profit of nearly three in a million,
but that's when wrapping in likes the ESPN plus. But yeah,
they compared to Netflix, they do seem to be lagging.
But you look at We've talked about this a few

(10:12):
weeks ago. Netflix added nineteen million subscribers last quarter, so
Disney Plus has gone backwards. So yeah, just wonder what
they need to do. I guess it probably wouldn't be
a brand fit for Disney. Might to get into broadcasting
boxing events, but yeah, the problem needs to do something.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
In camp numbers.

Speaker 11 (10:28):
Yeah, so the Dow is down point three percent at
the moment, forty four seven five six is in p
five hundred is up point two percent six zero seven one.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
We had a couple of.

Speaker 11 (10:36):
Strong innings results from Eli Lilly and Philip Morris. I
both up strongly. Naza cup point one percent nineteen seven
twenty stocks fifty in Europe that's up one point six percent.
Carlsburg and shipping drant Masks their shares are up eight percent.
Fit in the UK you mentioned the Bank of England.
I've cut rates by quarters percent. Some said they should
have gone half percent terms of some members, so that's

(10:58):
up one point two percent eight seven two seven.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's a record high.

Speaker 11 (11:01):
Nicer out point six percent A six two hundred and
one point two percent insects fifty. Obviously we were closed
fourteen eighty gold down nineteen dollars two eight four eight
and now it's all up ten cents seventy one spot
thirty in a barrel kvy. Weaker against the US down
point four percent fifty six point sixty seven. Also weaker
against the Aussie dollar ninety point three. But you find
that Bank of a decision we're up against stirring up

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point two percent forty five point six.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Have a good weekend to you Monday. Appreciate it, Grig Smith,
Devin Funds Management, Pascal, a bunch of results, qual Colm
chip Maker. Of course they did well, Mersk, as he
mentioned a moment ago, sales were up despite everything going
on in the Red Sea, et cetera. Snap better than
expected results, what do they pull in there? On one
point five billion in revenue global active users on Snap

(11:46):
four hundred and fifty three million alphabet disappointing, although revenue
was at ninety six billion, YouTube advertising at ten, cloud
revenue at eleven. That was the thing they did a
little bit angsty about. But it's reporting, see and so
it's a busy old time. Six twenty one here in
news Talk said.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
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Speaker 2 (12:11):
B Greenland's parliament if you've missed it, they've passed a
law that bans political parties from receiving contributions from foreign
or anonymous contributors. You know why they've done that, Google,
They're scrapping their diversity target's recent court decisions in US
executive orders. In the memo, it said, in the future,
we will no longer have aspirational goals when it comes

(12:31):
to diversity equity or inclusions of that particular dream's over.
They stopped taking parcels us posts if you missed this
as well, stop taking parcels from China and Hong Kong,
and everyone went what until twenty four hours later they
decided they would take parcels all to do with the Dominimus,
which is eight hundred bucks. So this is where Sheen
Shine whatever have tried to jerrymanner the system and get

(12:53):
a whole bunch of stuff into America. So there's a
loophole around the tariff. So it was off, now it's on,
and it's just the going what the Hell's going on
kind of vibe around the world at the moment six twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Five trending now with chemist were house Keeping, Kiwi's healthy.

Speaker 12 (13:09):
All year round.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I got some top shold British radio for you. This
is Talk Sport. Ellen Brazil is your host. He's talking
about men United's playing, which they've decided to call Mission
twenty one. The idea being that they start, you know,
I don't know, looking like a top level side when
some games, maybe when some trophies. Anyway, Ellen's co host
is Shaban. She said that the women getting silverware was
just as important for the team as well.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
Greatest respect. When you talk my man cheshi and hated
the women's foot by those getting more important. But when
you tap my manionate, it's only the man's that we're
talking about here of a mission impossible, it's not the women's.

Speaker 13 (13:42):
Well.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Actually, as part of the plan, it's called Project.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
On the World Are not bothered? True is true?

Speaker 14 (13:50):
And I'm sitting here and telling you that.

Speaker 13 (13:52):
The world by that, yeah, they're not.

Speaker 15 (13:54):
They're not.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
The bigger picture than not, okay than not.

Speaker 14 (13:57):
The bigger picture is having a future and then being
values that.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
No, I'm not going to see you in LA.

Speaker 14 (14:02):
It's not as if, Oh, stop being like that. That's
not you sound like a proper DNA. So I don't
know why you're speaking like that.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Are you kidney your cell on?

Speaker 14 (14:13):
I'm not kidding myself on, I'll in stop listen to yourself.

Speaker 13 (14:16):
That's a project.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Listen to you kid your cell on.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
That's breakfast radio. By the way, British styles. I love
talk sports ben there, nice people we go there every
time we go to Britain. Anyway. Positive story for the day,
Mike h The Tyler Childers concert spark Arena triumph last night.
Outstanding performance by Tyler and a seven strong virtuoso band
supported by largely young, well behaved crowd who dressed the part.

(14:40):
What does that mean? What is addressing the part mean?
I don't understand that anymore?

Speaker 6 (14:45):
Use for you?

Speaker 2 (14:45):
In a couple of moments, Unplas speaking of young unemployment
rate among young people twenty three percent? How do you
dig yourself out of that particular job hole? More for you?

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Shortly make card game in stateful engaging and vitally on
Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers
others can't use Tog's head b.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I'll come to the leak, alleged leek. And just a
couple of moments of Trump's plan for the Ukraine. There
are peace talks, there were meetings with Poot and the
whole thing. So I'll work you through that. Mike driving
to work at the moment. Has all of Auckland gone
on holiday? Glenn? Yes, they will have. In fact, most
of the country will have gone on holiday. I hope
you're still tuned in though. Twenty three minutes away from
seven Also more from trumpering the Guards a thing with

(15:29):
Richard Arnold shortly meantime, when we left for the day
of yesterday, we were standing by for the job was right,
of course. It came in at five point one. It's
one hundred and fifty six thousand New Zealanders looking for work.
One of the standout numbers was the unemployment right now
for fifteen to nineteen year olds is twenty three percent,
which is the highest in the decade. Former Zerbank economist
Michael Ddell's with us Michael, morning to you.

Speaker 16 (15:49):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Am I old fashioned? But at fifteen you've got nothing
to offer the economy and you shouldn't be registered as unemployed.
You should be in school or training, shouldn't urim a?
Is that just old world thinking?

Speaker 16 (16:00):
Well, it's actually true. I mean if you're a fifteen
you've got to be at school, So I mean fifteen
to nineteen category has always been The numbers don't shed
an awful of light on things. And you know most
sixteen year olds are in school as well. But remember
this isn't registered as unemployed. This is when the people
from smz S that's New Zealand bring you up and
say are you working? If you're not working, well, you're

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looking for a job last week? Are you ready to
start work for a job. So if like my kids,
you'd happily have had a summer job over holidays and
you just can't five one even though you're going back
to university in February, you count as unemployed in.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
These numbers, right, So what we're finding out is in
a difficult economy, it is the vulnerable who are hit
the most most often.

Speaker 13 (16:40):
Is that fair?

Speaker 16 (16:41):
Absolutely? And young people definitely are the ones who bear
the brunt new entrance to the labor market when things
are tough. So this series, you know you quoted the
twenty four percent number, it's never got below about twelve
thirteen descent, even when the economy was at its strongest.
It's been up at these sorts of levels the last
couple of times unemployment surged. But we don't help ourselves
as well by having really high minimum wages for young people,

(17:04):
as you put it, often don't have a lot to
offer to the labor market starting out.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
And so how long, even if the economy turns round
to the latter part of twenty five, how long before
they start to get mopped up in a growing economy
And the number of returns to some sort of normality.

Speaker 16 (17:17):
Well again, once you look at the last couple of
cycles of the early nineties and the global financial crisis,
once the aggregate unemployment number stops starts dropping, you'll see
the young person one tend to drop away quite sharply.
You know, we went from about twenty five percent to
seventeen in not much more than a year or so
in twenty twelve thirteen.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Do you agree broadly with the idea that by the
latter part of this year we're going to be better
than we are now or we just don't know?

Speaker 16 (17:46):
Well, we just don't know, particularly with the ructions that
Trump's putting on the world economy, right you know, the
trade war has temporarily been semi suspended, but who knows.
We will be very later this year. The tristreats coming down, Yes,
certainly thinks should be a little bit better domestically, but
the world it's a really unsettled place right now.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That is the truth. When you talk about interest rates
coming down in a week or so, the rb are
up for twenty twenty five is at fifty points. Do
we think do we need the fifty.

Speaker 16 (18:08):
Well, that's pretty much more promise for Christmas. A technique
is the right court me will be fur to puts
beyond there as well, based on the inflation numbers that
we've been seeing recently that is really low and putting
near the point of the targets out.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
All right, Michael, good to talk to you. Appreciate it.
Michael Dell, former Reserve Bank economist. Twenty minutes away from seven.
So it is a leak and it hasn't been confirmed
as anything other than a leak. But the Trump plan
will try and force Zelensky to agree to a cease
fire by easter. It's being reported by the Ukrainian outlet Strana.
It's a ban on Ukraine joining NATO, so it's going

(18:42):
to be fascinating to see how that happens. Demand for
Kiev to accept Russian sovereignty on Ennix Land. So none
of this is going Zelensky's way at the moment. The
Ukrainian troops will be made to leave Russia's Curse region
once again, not probably going down well with Zelensky. EU
will reportedly be asked for US Ukraine and its reconstruction.
The reconstruction cost at the moment they think is about well,

(19:04):
they say three ninety two billion pound let's call it
a trillion about a trillion New Zealand dollars, so EU
pays for that. So so far Trump's done nothing apart
from Pistolenski off and get the EU two pay a
trillion dollars which they don't have. The plans will reportedly
begin with a phone call between Zelenski and putin this month,
a meeting between the two late this month or early March,

(19:27):
an official ceasefire, declaration of a ceasefire by April twenty.
Let's see if any of that happens.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
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Speaker 2 (19:44):
I do have some good economic news for the country.
It's officially a seller's market record. Demand for business ownership
valuations are going up. This is from ABC Business Sales
Quarterly Market Intelligence Report. Fourth quarter business sales are up
six percent nationwide over the past year. A lot of
new migrants driving that, so that's encouraging.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Sixteen to two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,
peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So I'd writ anal morning to you.

Speaker 17 (20:10):
Good what he mean?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
So it was permanent that it wasn't they own it?
Then they're not. And so it went yesterday.

Speaker 18 (20:15):
Yeah, and so what happens tomorrow? You know, now we
find that President Trump didn't bother to tell his top
cabinet peaks about his idea of turning Gaza into the
Mara Lago of the Middle East. So now some I'm
in Team Trump backpeddling a little. And Trump's new Secretary
of State, Michael Rubio says those who thought the Trump
Gaza takeover was crazy and potentially criminal, well they've got

(20:37):
it all wrong.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Says Rubio.

Speaker 19 (20:38):
The only thing President Trump has done, very generously, on
my view, is offer the United States willingness to step
in clear the debris, clean the place up from all
the destruction.

Speaker 18 (20:49):
No, that's not the only thing he said. Of course,
Trump spoke of a takeover quote unquote, which would see
the US evicting the two Midian or so Palesidians from Gaza.

Speaker 15 (20:58):
To are you talking about a permanent occupation there?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I do see a long term ownership position, and I
see it bringing great stability to that part of the
Middle East.

Speaker 18 (21:11):
So if you are just doing cleanup, why would all
the Palestinians need to be forcibly removed from Gaza. You
could clean the damaged areas bit by bit. With Palestinians
staying in the region, Other Arab states could take them,
says Trump, Like Jordan. Well, Jordan already is more than
half Palestinian, and if those numbers are boosted, they could
bring the end of King Abdullah, who is to meet

(21:32):
with President Trump next week. What about Egypt, their president,
our sees is engaged in a fierce campaign against Islamic radicalism.
Not in the market for this kind of thing. The
Saudi say thanks, but no thanks for while many Palestinian
Gazan say this is their land, as they've been saying
for songs we can remember. Back at the White House,
the twenty seven year old new press spokesperson Carolyn Leavitt says.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
The President has not committed to putting boots on the
ground in Gaza.

Speaker 13 (22:00):
He has also said that the United States is not
going to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza.

Speaker 18 (22:04):
So who pays for the rebuilding of Gaza and turning
it into the riviera of the Middle East, as Donald
Trump now who's taken to calling it. Who would build
the resorts and the golf courses and all that other
important stuff Mexico once they pay for the border wall.
Maybe the US also has a problematic history, as we know,
with nation building, which Trump often referred to during his

(22:25):
political campaign.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
We do not seek nation building.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
We're getting out of the nation building business.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
No more nation building.

Speaker 10 (22:33):
It's never going to work.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
We must abandon the failed policy of nation building.

Speaker 17 (22:40):
We are not nation building again.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
We're not nation building.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
We're going to end the era of nation building.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
A disastrous concept, a disastrous era.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
What are we doing?

Speaker 13 (22:56):
What are we doingness?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
This could go on.

Speaker 18 (22:58):
Runk was supposed to be a nation building effort. So
was Afghanistan, and so looking further back was Vietnam. So
should Washington try this in the most turbulent region on
the planet. Democratic Senator Reuben Diego caused.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
This absolutely dumb, super and elite.

Speaker 13 (23:16):
We will now be occupying Gaza.

Speaker 18 (23:17):
A number of Republicans on Capitol Hill echoing those concerns.

Speaker 17 (23:23):
Here is one, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Supportive of having the American people paid to rebuild.

Speaker 18 (23:29):
Gaza, Louisiana Senator Kennedy there, while another Republican Senator, Lindsay
Graham calls the Trump proposal problematic if the new president
was just floating some starting position for the debate. Question
would be, of course, what is the realistic plan?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
And then we come to us best mate, Elon, Who's
is everyone resigning? What's happening here?

Speaker 18 (23:47):
We'll find out in a few hours. At the top
of this hour for starters, the US Federal Court judge
will consider a stay on the midnight deadline for numbers
of the federal staffers to quit with pay until September
or face the prospers being fired with nothing. A union
group calls the Elon Musk plant illegal and two percent
two percent of the federal workers have agreed so far

(24:09):
on the latest figures, so it affects currently a foreign
aid the FBI with its list of some five thousand
people apparently who are part of the January the sixth
Trump investigation, the CIA, the Education Department also on the
firing line. Some air traffic experts were involved as well,
but it was found that they were being asked to
quit at the very point when we're seeing this rash
of aviation tragedies, so they decided to keep them on

(24:32):
for a bit. Protest rallies are being arranged. Some Democrats
also are starting to take on must directly the will's
richest man.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Of course, we don't.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Pledge allegiance to Elon Musk.

Speaker 15 (24:46):
We are here to fight back.

Speaker 13 (24:50):
No one elected Elon Musk.

Speaker 18 (24:53):
Done nothing while a Capitol Hill committee turned into complete chaos,
really wed calls for Elon mush to be subpoened.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Mister chairman, I think it's outrageous that this committee will
not even.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Entertain that's not a point of order.

Speaker 9 (25:12):
Order, well, not order emotions.

Speaker 18 (25:24):
This is so much, it's all going really well.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
There's only four more years, Richard Arnold stateside. The other
thing was the Panama Canal. Yesterday, the Panama has denied
making changes to allow US government vessels to transit the
canal for free. White House claims that was part of
the move, but apparently apparently it isn't. Seen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Hosking breakfast with the Range Rover Villa news talks, there'd be.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I'm trying to navigate Trump at the moment. If Wednesday
afternoon the press conference with Trump and n Yahoo, I
watched the whole thing. It was absolutely fantastic because it
was so unbelievably unhinged. You couldn't believe what you were watching.
And the thing about Trump is and you go back
to an old Steve Bannon interview, he said it several times.

(26:12):
What they do is they throw crazy stuff at you,
and the media can't cope. So you do three things
a day, one of which is real. And so the
idea there's a seed of truth and pretty much everything
Trump says. So the seed of truth in this particular
Gaza thing was not that it's going to be the Ribiera.
None of that's going to happen. The seed of the
truth was we can't keep doing what we've been doing

(26:34):
because it doesn't work. And in that is correct. Then
he goes off piece does the mad thing. Everyone reacts
to the mad thing, and what will actually unfold will
be less than that, but more than what it has been.
And so in that sense, it's quite clever, which brings
me to David Seymour and why tung you And we'll
do that shortly six minutes away from seven by the ouse.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's the fizz with business favor, take your business productivity
to the next level before we do that long weekend.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
For many Booking dot COM's looked at the place as
we're traveling to this is domestic and international. Domestically Auckland
top place, Queenstown second, Wellington, christ Church top four, Tauerpo
comes in at five, Roada Vegas sixth. Pie Here climbed
a couple of spots to seventh for obvious reasons. Internationally,
where are we going because it's a four day you've
got to go close by? I'm assuming so Sydney, Gold Coast, Meldon,

(27:27):
raratong A, Brisbane. A lot of people going to those places.
They are the top places. We're traveling for a Thursday frea.
They said this, So then we come to I mean,
either you're a travel junkie, so you're going as far
afield as you possibly hand in four days to get back,
or you're looking actually it's no longer a long weekend.
It's actually turned into a holiday because Tokyo, Bangkok and
Singapore are in the top ten. So domestically, I'll give

(27:49):
you the hot Auckland, Queenstown, christ Church, Wellington, Tauerpo, Rotorua
pie Here. Then we got Hawk's Bay disappointed. Hawks Bay
would have thought you'd better than that, Dunedin Tower and
Dunedin got to come back to the campaign. Have you
seen the the campaign currently that Dunedin's running against Auckland
and Wellington. It's brilliant. Tarong and Mount Monganui that's the
same place. Come on, Hamilton, Hamda Springs. How does Hamilton

(28:11):
beat Hamda Springs. You ever been to Hamilton? Hamder Springs
is brilliant.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well the Handley Springers has only got one thing.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, what's Hamilton got?

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Heaps the things? It's the city I love who it's
the city of loved the city.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I think those gardens, the gardens. I'll give you that.
But that's the only one thing. Blenn, name me two things.
You can't name me two things for Hamilton, Warnaker, New Plymouth, Nelson, Kaikoura,
Kaikoura is going gangbusters, Palms to North Lake, Tekapo and Whittyanger. Internationally,
this is Allbolos decision. Make this so this is just
regular travel. They've not done a special list for the

(28:45):
long weekend. It's just regular travel. So Sydney, Gold Coast, Melbourne,
Raratong of Brisbane, that standard, Tokyo, Nandy, Singapore, Perth, Bangkok, Dubai, Barley.
It sees here. I've got Soul in the top list.
A bitter be Quick in New Zealand's pulling out a
soul because they haven't got enough engines all playing day.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
And also probably the Raratonga is in that list, you know,
last chance before you have to get a Chinese visa.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well, actually, funnily enough, it isn't. It's already gone. It's
not even in the top twenty how to the top.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
But you said it was like it or something on
that list.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Ye? Sorry, Ye's four. I don't listen to what I
say to him. I mean, that's less than number one
of the squad. Now I am listening to what I'm saying.
Sometimes I find myself entertaining. But we're going to tune out.
So China and Rara Tonga, what's going on? How come
we didn't know? Do we have every right to feel
aggrieved about this? More importantly, from the big picture point

(29:43):
of view, what's the future for the Pacific? More on
the start of the news and.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
News, opinion and everything in between, the MIC hosting Breakfast
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Speaker 2 (29:58):
Be seven past seven. So how big a deal is
cook signing with China. It's expected to begin died the
Dial this weekend as part of their firsty have a
state visit to Beijing, and part of the problem seems
to be New Zealand's been out of the loop on
all of this. Winston Paiter is shortly but the University
of Oaklands international relations expert Stephen Hidley. First, Stephen, morning to.

Speaker 10 (30:14):
You, Rona.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Is this a big win for China?

Speaker 12 (30:20):
It is?

Speaker 10 (30:20):
Indeed. Yeah. If you're an Australian analyst of geopolitics, you're
going to be very alarmed about this. If you're an
island leader, you're going to say, look, why not Cook
Islands needs the economic resources. It's got brain drain, it's
got an ocean. It should as people have higher expectations.

(30:40):
So there are really several narratives here. And then there's
Winston Peters narrative. You'll remember the Wine Bucks scandal. You're
old enough to remember that. Winston Peters put the hard
word on Cook Islands for dodgy banking practices and almost
money laundering. So Winston Peters has a long hit story
of irritation with Cook Islands.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Would astrilily be as upset with this deal as we
are upset with this deal?

Speaker 10 (31:07):
Oh yeah, I think so. And we hope this doesn't
attract the attention of Donald Trump. Now Donald Trump is
taking a hard line to China, and he's going to
want all of his partners and allies to do the same.
And this may reflect badly on New Zealand to allow
it's one of its realm countries to slide over into

(31:28):
the Chinese orbit.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
How I mean you go back to the twenty seventeen
one billion dollars foreign aid and Peters argued we needed
to be better friends, needed to be more present in
the Pacific. So good on them for doing that. And
yet the chickbook was always going to win. How do
you compete with the Chinese chickbook?

Speaker 10 (31:44):
Well, you can't. Look, it's impossible. You can do the
best you can. You could work with your allies. You're
bringing the Japanese and the Australians and the United States
if possible, into the mix, and hang in there best
you can and hope the Chinese self destruct. That is,
their economy is not all that strong, and maybe they'll

(32:06):
make mistakes along the way, as they have done with
their road and built and dative. So it's the game
is at last, but certainly the current play the Chinese
have moved forward in not on these alban islands, but
also curebus also in Palau and now in Cook Islands.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Good stuff. Steven appreciate the insights. Steve Hadley, University of Auckland,
International relations expert. I was going to suggest, I mean
to Barley, care of us is one thing, but the
Cooks is the big price, basically, isn't it. Nine minutes
past seven far about teen years ago, Mike thought it
was odd the Chinese company was doing the water upgrades.
That was a year, that was a seventeen million dollar job.
They botched it. Have you been watching this, Barbara Driver?
We should give credit to the story Barbara Driver of

(32:46):
TV and Sid's got the story. Everyone else seems to
have ignored it for reasons best on under themselves. It's
one of the biggest stories of certainly of the week
and certainly in this region. The ramifications are absolutely enormous,
and I will talk to Peters after seven thirty the morning.
The claim by Brown, the Prime Minister of the Cook Islands,
that somehow they funnel a billion this way and we
only channel sixty million their way. I've got no idea

(33:08):
where he comes up with that, and I don't think
Peters has either. Anyway, that's still to come We've got
another police officer hit by a car though, so we
need to deal with this. This was an Huntley on Wednesday.
One office has got moderate injuries. Now this is just
a month after, of course, the senior sergeant Lynn Fleming
was killed tragically in a similar fashion of Nelson Police
Minister Mark Mitchell with us on this morning.

Speaker 20 (33:26):
Good morning, Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
This these two incidents, are they isolated? Do you think
one officer just happened to have happened close together or
we've got some sort of sick trend going on here.

Speaker 20 (33:37):
Well, I hope that they are isolated and so that
it's not a sick trend that we're going to see.
But if you look around the world, unfortunately these sort
of things are happening more regularly overall. You know, the
type of violent defending that our police and first responders
have had to deal with, we've seen growing over the years,
and we're working curiously hard and governments try and reverse it.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Does it mean the line has been crossed? In other words,
as mad as you may be, there was a line
about you know, attacking police people and that now seems
to be a bit blurred.

Speaker 20 (34:10):
Yeah, I agree with you. I think that. I think that,
you know, the boundaries have changed and people are more
likely to get violent, whether it be verbally or physically,
not just with our police officers and first responders, but
with retail workers. You know, we have seen those lines blurred.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, so what do we need to do? Is there
a law that we can pass? It's like the King
hit thing out of Australia, isn't it. Is there something
specific legally we need to do?

Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (34:37):
So there is.

Speaker 11 (34:37):
We are.

Speaker 20 (34:38):
We've here on legislation. Like I said, we're working on
It's hard to get it into the House as quickly
as we can. Around protection of our first responders and
prison officers. There was a bill that I picked up
off Derek or when he was in government last time
that was it literally was Protection and first Responders and
prison Officers bill. I couldn't get picked that up in opposition.

(34:58):
I couldn't get support for fill from the government party's
Labor Greens to party marriage, so it didn't go through.
So now we've sort of picked that fill up. We're
obviously refining it, doing some work on it. I'm working
closely with Paul Goldsmith on it, and we'll get that
back into the house as quick as we.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Can refined in what sense? So if I run over
a policeman and the policeman's dead, what happens to me?

Speaker 20 (35:21):
Well, you're going to get So that's the work that
we're going around sentencing and making sure that it seems
a very clear signal and it is preventative in terms
of the seriousness of the actual sentencing. So yes, there's
a lot of work done around sentencing, cumulative sentencing rather
than concurrent, defining emergency services workers, you know, and also
being able to have in the bill the ability to

(35:43):
respond to what you've identified as the changing threat levels
for our frontline and for our first responders.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
What's the timeframe on this, Well, it's a priority, so
definitely in the first quarter of this year. All right,
now go well, Marke Machill back next Wednesday on the
Macsking Breakfast of the Team, and it's past seven. Did
you watch the stand up with David Seymour at Waitangi
where Mikey Sherman, Jenna Lynch and Guy Williams made absolute
fools of themselves and were owned by David. I did

(36:11):
Seymour's extremely funny and what made it really funny? Was
that Guy Williams isn't and yet Guy Williams was there
as a comedian, but David Seymour wasn't, and yet David
Seymour was vastly more funny than Guy Williams. Was What
also disturbed me in reading in the Herald this morning
and look it up was and this brings me back
from what I was saying before seven o'clock on Trump.
So what is exercising the media, especially the political media

(36:34):
at the moment as they were making a thing. If
you saw the six o'clock News last night about Seymour
being miked, he miked himself. And what act do these days,
very cleverly, is they filmed themselves everything they do, the
interactions with the media, they film the whole thing. And
this is the future of media and the gallery don't
seem to have got hold of this. So what they
do is they filmed the whole thing. So when you
watch the six o'clock News and you see forty seconds

(36:54):
worth of David Seymour, it's never the full story because
they've jerry mannered it, edited it, put a spin on it. Whatever,
we're a Seymour. By filming the entire interaction puts it
up on his website. You can see what actually happens,
and they hate that because the control has been taken away.
Of genuine concern to me though, if you read this
morning's Herald, is that Gilliams was there filming a television program.

(37:17):
The television program has received from the taxpayer, You and
I one million dollars one million dollars to make a
program that of this particular exercises anything to go by
is literally a complete and nutter waste of money. Fourteen
past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
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Speaker 2 (37:40):
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past seven Reminder and part as to why so many
people are leaving New Zealand for not only the heat
of Australia but the pay packets. We've got a survey
of accountants, eight thousand of them across Australasia. Turns out paywise,
there's a big gap. Charted Accountants Australia. New Zealand General
Manager Charlotte Ebbetts with us on this Charlotte Morning.

Speaker 15 (37:59):
To Year Wanning Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
This charted accountants are all accountants.

Speaker 15 (38:06):
This is charted accountants, so that down members, we have
almost one hundred and forty thousand members across Australia and
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
What sort of gap are we talking about dollars wise?

Speaker 15 (38:18):
You know, the gap is significant if you're looking at
some of those bigger roles, so chief chief executives CFOs
and general managers so CFOs for example. And this as
we looked at the median, so everyone knows a CFO
paid higher than this, But in Australia they'll get about
three hundred and five thousand, whereas in New Zealand you're

(38:39):
looking more at two hundred and sixty five thousands. But
you know, equally there are plenty of roles in New
Zealand that pay pretty similar to those in Australia. More
junior accountants get very similar pays.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
So have we got a problem here or not? Because
if you say two sixty five to three h five,
yes it's a gap, but the cost of living in
Sydney is way more than that as compared to with
say living in Auckland, So in other words you're not
necessarily ahead at all.

Speaker 15 (39:05):
I mean, also, I think I was reading something this morning.
I think on interest dot Co dot Can said that
it said Australians are a lot more dissatisfied than us
with the affordability of housing. So you know, we think
we've got it bad here, they have it worse there.
You try to buy a house in Sydney, it's pretty pricey.
But look, I think over the lifetime of our survey,

(39:25):
we've always seen higher salaries in Australia than in New Zealand,
so this isn't something new at all. And economic performance
there there's been a big gap since way back in
the seventies.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And your sorry, in your experience, is retention here an
issue because of pay or not?

Speaker 15 (39:42):
Well, I mean everyone it feels like everyone knows someone
that's moving to Australia, but there are also plenty of
people that are happy to stay here in New Zealand.
We've got a lot to offer, as you know, like
you said, affordability. But also our survey showed that a
lot despite a being a bit more in Australia, over all,
New Zealanders feel more fairly paid. So over a quarter

(40:06):
of Australians thought that they were unfairly paid, but in
New Zealand that was only twenty percent.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, so, but we do have a problem.

Speaker 15 (40:14):
I thought a problem and that there are people leaving,
but there's still a lot of people that come back
home as well.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Good stuff. Nice to talk to you, Charlotte. Charlotte Ebbitt,
who's chartered accountants A and Z or Australia and New
Zealand general manager, talking to my daughter in Melbourne last
I can't sleep, which you can't Sleep's too damn hotspan
thirty nine degrees all week in Melbourne. You can't sleep?
Who wants to go to Australia? You get no sleep?
Seven twenty.

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Speaker 3 (42:25):
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(43:37):
sadly is what you get when you systematically go about
wrecking a place. Tex seven The budget could be interesting. Hmm,
let's hope so are the cook Islands.

Speaker 11 (43:45):
Four.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
In some respects the story of the week. Winston's line
has always been the Islands value our friendship. My line
has always been the Islands value of checkbook. And that's
the week copies on the website and the registers valuation
for this, by the way, Cayman this week it's up
another seven percent for the quarter. Basically it's gold hosking
taxes away higher in Australia, Mike and the stamp duty
when you buy a house. Mike's salaries are only part

(44:06):
of the story. You need to look at the net
income tax rates in Australia. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's true. Essentially,
what we find out is nothing's changed. The gap between
New Zealand and Australia paid wise in some jobs has
always been big. In other jobs, it's no different. But
at a certain level your tax rate goes well above ours.
I think it's forty five as the top tax rate.
And yes you've got stamp duty, and yes it's my
daughter's telling me. It's thirty nine degrees every day in Melbourne.

(44:27):
You can't sleep. And they've got snakes story somewhere this
morning accout when we're a root. One hundred and twenty
snakes were taken out of a house in Sydney, one
hundred and twenty. I mean, one's bad enough.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
I always think that, you know, when you see all
that flooding that they've head up north, and I always say, ooh,
what's good?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Have it up north? They're having it up north. It's
still going. You imagine what's in it. It's the crocs,
it's the snakes, it's the spiders, it's Queenslander's I mean,
you know, by the time.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
That's a big thing, isn't it. Like if you do
move to Australia. You are going to have to deal
with Australians exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Exactly, so just think long and hard about it before
you go. Winston. Peter's on the Cooks. I will also
ask him about UNRA, because I thought his response or
his officer's response to UNRA the other day after I
asked lux And who didn't know anything about it, was
somewhat weak. But it seems unbelievable that US has pulled
the pen. But we happened anyway, Winston for you shortly.

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twenty three minutes away from it. Back to the Cooks
and their big day out in Beijing as they incad
deal that seems to suggest China's making major inroads into
the Pacific. The issue this time we appear to be
out of the loop on this and further, if you
saw Cooks PM Mark Brown last night, he's suggesting the
Cooks pay us, not the other way around. So how
does all this work? Foreign Minister Winston Peters is with

(45:51):
this very good morning to you. Good morning on a
scale of one to ten ten year app apoplectic. How
aggrieved are you?

Speaker 17 (46:00):
I wouldn't like to put it that way. It's just
a simple fact that since nineteen oh one and we've
had this special constutional relationship. It was further enhanced with
the Helen Clark Prime Minister Mote two thousand and one agreement.
And out of left field this has happened, first of
all in a demand to have a separate our sport,

(46:21):
so to speak, which would be dramatic in terms of
our constitutional arrangements, and also the upcoming visit to China
which has come on the back of this, which has
blindsided both the Cook Island people and ourselves. We have
asked over a number of months and did time for
and the chronology of evidence is there for that for

(46:43):
information and as we have found out, it has not
been shared with us all the cookol And people. So
that's where things stand.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
So is this a Mark Brown thing or a Cook's thing?

Speaker 17 (46:55):
Well, no one mus have personalized this, but a few
on receiving in we are and as I am, numerous
acquisis what's going on when the answer lies in the
cook Islands, and when the Cookarden Cooks and news are
recent articles have been asking for that and not getting answers,
then the answers lie elsewhere as to what's exactly going on. However,
in any arrangement we have the cook Garens people will

(47:18):
be talking to all the people both in the Cookardens
and the Cookarlands abroad as to what they want and
whether this is what they agree to.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Brown was on the news last night saying, you've been
talking for ages. It's just he was disappointed at got leaked.
Have you been talking for ages? Do you know this
was coming or not?

Speaker 17 (47:34):
Well, we've been talking for ages and we have made
sure that we have written it to put it in record,
on record for a long time as to the answers
to these questions and to frame us being disappointed at
the conversation not working is not something I could possibly
agree with, nor could I possibly agree with. The economic
statement was made last night. There a billion dollars going

(47:56):
to the Cookoudens to us and peanuts are going back.
I mean this is well extraordinary in the extreme.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Did he make that up? I mean, where does he
get a billion dollars from?

Speaker 17 (48:08):
I've got no idea.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
What would your numbers be? Do we give them sixty million?

Speaker 17 (48:14):
Well that and much more and over the years, I
mean we were on a long way back underwriting the
nysilln't travel to Cookans to enhanced their tourism. All these
things huge. We put an over well a fortunate into
fixing up the water system there that we were in

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tandem with China working on, and every part of their
work had failed massively. I raised this with four minths
a long year, long long time ago. He told me
you'd get it picked up. And now these are things
that are going to be out in the ether very
shortly if this comes down to a discute us of
what's happened. And sadly that should not be the case.
We've had this special relationship and I believe the mass

(48:58):
majority of Cocardis wanted to go on.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Actually that water is a good example. So it was
you was China, and it was the Cook Islands. Is
are we buying this out of proportion? So they signed
deal with China? So what we like China, we do
business with China was really an issue.

Speaker 17 (49:12):
It was an issue to extent that a number of
the constructions where the Chinese were involved in the Cook
Islands have simply failed. Some have failed within ten years.
So I raised all these works so far and said,
well a long long time ago, and he said he
would get them fixed up. And now I don't want
to go over those things because we've had fixed the

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water system up largely, but not in the way we
wanted to do it, not within the speed we wanted
to do it, and a part greater cost because of
the faulty construction on their part. Now these are facts,
but the reality is that the Cook owned people as
them as by the news and all the requires they're making,
just don't know what's going on. And I am my
government and our government I constantly required to ensure we

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talk to them, to ensure that we, on the behalf
of the usual tax know exactly what's going on, so
that we're accountable. Deasy on taxpayer. It's their money, after all.
Do not against We're not against the soundness of our
aid programs. But our job is to monitor every dollar
and make sure it gets to wes we mint ago
for the right purpose.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Is this Chinese creep? Do you worry about it? And
do you think Trump will worry about it.

Speaker 17 (50:23):
Lord I kanas for President Trump or the American people
that I have to answer for the injured people, to
ensure that our purpose is corrected. Chase is pure, and
we do what we say we're going to do. And
that's been our long long record, regardless of political parties,
has been our long record. And here's the point that
cook on. People are entitled to know, and we are

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trapped by our need to ensure that they know and agree.

Speaker 16 (50:48):
With what's going on.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
I remember talking to you in twenty seventeen when you
did the one billion dollars when you anointed Jacinda are
doing to run the place, so you hand a billion
dollars in. Your argument at the time was we need
to be better or more present than the paife. We
haven't been as good as we could be, and I said,
checkbooks will win out at the end of the day.
Checkbooks have won, haven't they. That's what this boils down to.

Speaker 17 (51:08):
No, I do not believe.

Speaker 15 (51:09):
I believe that.

Speaker 17 (51:09):
But all these other things about the Leaf principles freedom
with human rights, these are fundamentals that to go violence.
People are also concerned about as they are around the Pacific.
They need to know what's happening here and as a
consequence with they make their decision, then they should be
free to make it, but they have should be free
to make it in the circumstances of the commitments that

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we made, going back to Hell in Clark's time and
going back to nine o one where we discuss and consult,
that's where we are now. I can assure you that
the resumed government has done its best to find out
what's going on, and just said this has been discussing
with us is absurdly not true.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Okay. A couple of things while I've got you are unruh.
So Trump pulls the money over the weekend or this week.
I talked to the Prime Minister that he didn't know
anything about it, but there was a hostage that was
British is hostage was released. Talk to Starmer on the phone.
She said she was kept at UNRA facilities by Hamas
why are we still funding them?

Speaker 17 (52:09):
Will you recall I stopped the funding too, Hora at
the time of the our nation's inquiry as to what
was going on and our reconfiguration of our next Payment's
not you yet and that's where things are. But this
information is something that will be of intense and quiry
protected by Western nations because the proximity to harmas and

(52:32):
to owner operations means they had to know. So, yes,
this is a new question. In the next we're going
to find out what's going on before we commit one
more dollar.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Good. Are you suspicious?

Speaker 17 (52:44):
Well, you know you'd be aristontle in the extreme not
to be seeing information, hearing information and asking yourself what
is going on here? And how can I face the
these younger people if I don't make the right Stanford?
What's right?

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Exactly?

Speaker 10 (52:58):
Good?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
And then we coun for foreign home ownership? Can you
answer me this question? Just for you will be aware
that the real estate institute, or not the real the
real estate industry in this country is a wash with
stories that you've been talked across the line in some way,
shape or form to be able to have foreigners come
back into the real estate market and start buying some
expensive houses maybe five or six million. Is that true

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or is that not true?

Speaker 17 (53:25):
There's the Hosking rumors are rumors that I was the
one that said when National announced in twenty twenty three
that they were going to go for the two million
dollar house sale numbers, that the figures were massively faulty,
but they didn't work and they wouldn't bring the money
that they should bring. But if you're talking about and
this has always been as your first time, if somebody

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is coming to this country like they do to other countries,
bringing you fifty million dollars to invest a huge industry
into ensure that we've got employment with its non employment
now potential exports there is not exports in area now,
then we will look at it. Certainly. That's always been
our view because that means you've got a serious investor
committed to the zoom economy and not just a bolt
hole in case of on the coming one day.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
But is that going to be made official and articulated
from a government's point of view.

Speaker 17 (54:14):
Well, these are things that are work in progress because
we're going to have to construct an economy which answered
the question why invest in his Zealand and that has
to be detail and specific and we're not selling ourselves out.
If you're investing in Zealand and you're going to build
and be the mass apartment building our economy, if home

(54:34):
ownership while you do that is part of it, that
wouldn't done to be automatic. No, But let's see the
details first.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Okay, that's fine. That's what I couldn't understand. You're out
in the world as foreign minister, by all accounts, seemingly
doing a very good job, and we've got an economy
that's stuck and we need help. And if an American
comes in and he's got ideas and he wants to expand,
he wants to grow, and he wants to employ some people.
He also wants to live here, he should be able to.
And if he can go to Lake Hayes and spend
nine million dollars on the house, what's the problem.

Speaker 17 (55:00):
Look, I was down at the conference you see a
year ago talking about a one hundred billion dollar future fund.
I'm trying to answer the question that needs to answer
by his hull importans. Yes, but whiney isean. There's many
options of God, and the answer to whine is Zealand
has to be laid out very clearly and make us
country an attractive place to invest in and your pipe God,

(55:23):
But do you remember the case of Peter Teel. Yes,
Peter Teale got the old citizenip from ton Key within
six days and he's not an other than buying a house.
What else is he invested. I'm not criticizing him. I'm
just saying that the National Party at that time had
no foreign hold on I.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Mean, I don't want to get bogged down on this
because amount of time. But what he wanted to do
was build the lodge, and the council prevented him from
building a lodge.

Speaker 17 (55:48):
All the National Party's job then was to ensure that
the Council didn't have the authorities stop that sort of development.
That's what case law means.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Look, look, you and I, I hope, are on the
same page. We need to get this economy moving and fast,
and if we need to do everything we can to do.

Speaker 17 (56:02):
That, well, look, I agree with you. Here's a rubb.
I know it personally because a private conversations specifically aimed
at me, that we are people and interests seriously with
the money to start yesterday. We have to frame our
country's policies wise, it like Ireland, like Croatias, doing like

(56:22):
a rocket now like Seapore did, and it makes some
sense for these young people. We've got the assets, we've
got the people. We just heaven God, the structural framework.
It should have been so paid us a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Appreciate your time. As all West Winston played as Foreign
Minister twelve away the.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
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Speaker 2 (56:45):
Mike, I work as a real estate agent, having an
authority from an extremely wealthy European investor who's just arrived
in the country that he'll be able to buy an
expensive home in Auckland in the coming weeks. Everyone says
that you've got nothing more than just about every second
real estate agent going at the moment says everyone knows
somebody who knows somebody who's got low covered across the line.
Doesn't quite work like that, Mike. If these specific Islanders
want to align to China, then their entry to New

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Zealand will be the same as China, which is visa related.
Of course, I don't think it'll go that far. It's
an interesting time, though, Mike. I'm not a car dealer,
but I have a Maserati gron Trismo's Sport four point
seventy to V eight MC sports with Ferrari's F one shift.
Are you interested?

Speaker 15 (57:20):
Ash?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Not really, sorry, because the MC shift is not a
good one. You've got to feather the throttle and it's
it's you need a basic automatic. But it depends on
what year and what miles. I am looking at one
at the moment. That's thirty th k, twenty seventeen, ninety
thousand dollars. I reckon I could talk them down to eighty.
It's white with blue interior. It's quite nice. Peters claimed
that he stopped funding. Is a odds with m Fat's position.

(57:42):
They did not suspend. Funny, that's no, yes and no.
We only pay once a year, and we weren't due
to pay while he inquired, so we never didn't pay.
We just inquired why we were waiting to pay. So
we paid on the due date because we satisfied ourselves
that we should be paying, because they weren't dodgy. I
think that might have changed ate away from eight.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
The mate Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News dogsz'd.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Be Mike, you should look at the BMWE forty six
M three. You get a much better return than a Maserati. Jamie,
your one hundred percent correct. There's no one ever got
a return on a Maserati. But that's not where you
buy them. There's an E forty six M three CSI
saw manual, but that was a fortune. You don't want
to bought over the holidays. The best thing I bought
over the holidays was a snow cannon. You don't want

(58:31):
to snow cannon is. You can get a snow gun,
but you don't want a snowgun. You want a snow cannon.
Now snow cannon connects to your water blaster, or a
snowgun connects to your hose. And it's a thing that
professional car groomers use. And you put a little bit
of sauce in the bottle and because it's connected to
the hose or the water blaster, it sprays the foam

(58:51):
over the car in this like this gargantuan curtain of foam,
and it projects it, especially with the cannon, it projects
it so far on to the car that it actually
cleans the car. So you rinse the car. And I
did this multiple times over the holidays, whether the car
needed it or not, because there was so much one
so I would rinse the car with a water blaster,
put the snow cannon on, snow it up, rinse it

(59:14):
off cleaner, never have to never have to clean.

Speaker 6 (59:16):
Then, and then you dry it with the leaf blaster.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
You dry it with the leaf blow, of course you
get there, don't don't do it with enough and inflection.
Of course you dry it with a leaf blow where
everybody does. But you get a beautiful clean car and
you never have to rub and clean your car again.
So snow, can you get them everywhere? They're not even
that expensive. I can't remember what I pay eighty bucks.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
If this is why he was run out of town
everybody and now has to live in the country.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
News for you, and a couple of moments and more
fun chat with Tim and Kati, shortly.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Setting me a gender and talking the big issues, the
mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, finding the buyers
others can't.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Use togs dB. Mike whires that resil on a Maserati
is not important yet it was one of several rants
about EV's having no resale value. Confused to St Mary's Bay,
Confused of Saint Mary's Bay. Good morning to you and
appreciate your tuning in on what for many is a
long weekend. It's a fair question, actually, and I will
come back because it's comprehensive answer. Mike, what's your foam

(01:00:15):
canon secret? I've been using one for a year or two,
but still need to contact wash to remove dirt? Are
you removing dirt or just garage dust from not driving?
Once again, excellent questions, very very good questions. I'm looking
at a photo of this bloke who's called the Weekend,
and he looks I didn't realize how much he looks
like Carnee if you under sadly, very very Carne looking

(01:00:37):
unhearinged you mean mo just Carnea looking his sixth and
potentially I'm reading also his final album. There's a cloud
of finality that hangs aggressively and heavily handedly over Hurry
Up Tomorrow. Hurry Up Tomorrow's the name of the album.
Nearly every song here focuses on the riggers of fame,
with lyrics returning time again to being drained by the

(01:00:58):
demands of.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
Turi wanting you don't we know it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Criming a rhythm what I say being in too deep?
Don't I say that quite often after shout so.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Now well we might be in, but too deep? Ye,
that's what you always say.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Ultimately, Hurry Up Tomorrow achieves its objective of ceremoniously ending
the Weekend. The challenge here, however, is finding the right
mood to appreciate the weekend's lengthy and elaborate funeral for himself.
I think down twenty two tracks, which is far as
in many a pus, indicating perhaps he's not finished yet
in eighty four minutes eighty four minutes of I'm sick

(01:01:34):
of this. I don't like it, and I want to quit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
The week in review with two degrees fighting for fear
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
Sim Wilson, good morning.

Speaker 13 (01:01:44):
Good morning. That weekend thing. It's a bit like Taylor Swift,
doesn't it? Less is actually more? You don't want eighty
four minutes at Taylor Swift.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
You don't Travis's that quite often, I understand Kate Hawksby's
with us. Good morning to you, Good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:01:59):
The weekend looks nothing like Kanye.

Speaker 21 (01:02:00):
By the way, Hey, can I just double check that
I heard Winston correctly, because he's very difficult to understand
because he talks and riddles.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
Did we just hear him dialing back his stance on
the foreign biba? I believe that accoun he's made this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
I believe that to be the case. I think we
might have if any of the other media are listening,
we might actually have a story there, I would have thought.

Speaker 14 (01:02:21):
So I think that's a story.

Speaker 21 (01:02:22):
And also all the real estate agents that have been
banging on about it for ages could be in fact correct.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
The interesting thing about it, and what I couldn't understand
is that for a bloke who's out in the world
now and he's always taken his foreign fears portfolio very
seriously and by all accounts, has always been very good
at it, and I just don't know how you get
out into the world spreading the message that we're open,
we're interested, we want to grow the economy, we're in
deep stook, all that sort of stuff. This is his
last row deoh, as he would so eloquently put it,

(01:02:50):
And so he needs to be re elected, and to
be re elected he needs to fire up the economy.
And I think even he understands that now, and for
that you need some people with money, and the people
with money you are international and you can't start a
business and settle in New Zealand if you've got to go,
you know, get a two betty rental when actually you
can afford a twenty million dollar house. And so I
think he's finally got on board with that.

Speaker 13 (01:03:10):
Yeah, Yeah, I think I think. Actually it's interesting. I was,
we were we're sort of looking for a new house,
and we took into a real estate agent the out
the day.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Are you're very transient, aren't you.

Speaker 14 (01:03:21):
Well, we moved into the one you're in.

Speaker 16 (01:03:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:03:25):
No, it was a couple of a couple of years ago.
A couple of years ago. But that's this real estate
agent to give.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I'm going to give you. I'm going to give you.
I'm going to give you five hundred dollars to the
charity of your choice if you can tell me what
the average length of ownership of a home in this
country is and why therefore you are unusual, unusually shortened
your ownership.

Speaker 13 (01:03:45):
So where we are, we're renting. Okay, so we don't own.
We don't own this place. So you're what do you
want to choke us the beds to?

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
How long?

Speaker 13 (01:03:54):
You know how long it is people rent for?

Speaker 15 (01:03:56):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:03:59):
No, no, well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Two or three months?

Speaker 13 (01:04:04):
I can, I can. I can make up the stats
so we could get the five hundred. I'll just give
you my account.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Now if you're like, no, I don't do them. I
don't do made upstates. So anyway, sorry, you're looking for
a house.

Speaker 13 (01:04:13):
Yeah, yeah, but interesting because because the real estate agent
we were talking to, she's like, oh, I sold five
last week, and this is supposed to be the flat
the flat period. So it's really that was that was
surprising for me in terms of just where the market's at,
because you're hearing a lot of stuff about the market
being sticky, but for some people it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
No, that's interesting.

Speaker 21 (01:04:32):
What you need to do to is give Mike your
stats in terms of things you're looking for, how many beds,
how many baths are out exter.

Speaker 14 (01:04:40):
This is Mike Sporte. He does it for all our friends.
He does it for everybody.

Speaker 21 (01:04:43):
He will find you a house because nobody is across
the real estate market more than Mike, and so he
really should be working in real estate, not radio.

Speaker 14 (01:04:50):
To be so there, tell him what you want. I
guarantee you your house by by next year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
How many bids? How many bathrooms?

Speaker 13 (01:04:57):
He's going to be okay, two, two bathrooms and four beds, four.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Beds, two bars, three baths if you can afford it.
I don't think you want to count three baths.

Speaker 6 (01:05:11):
This is what happens to him. He's already trying to talk.
I've seen this firsthand.

Speaker 11 (01:05:15):
He did it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:15):
He did it with our boss recently, and our boss.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Ended up didn't he find Jason's house?

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
Yes, and and and what's more, he ended up moving
to a completely different area than where he was originally looking.
And the house was twice as big as what he
wanted and costs four times.

Speaker 14 (01:05:32):
But he's happy the whole thing. He loves it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
He's but just to be fair, just happy, just on
the record, Jason, Jason tell us he's broke, but he's happy.
He loves every minute of it. Hey, did you use
just quick, by the way, two years as your average
rental period in this country? Would you have guessed?

Speaker 13 (01:05:52):
Two years? That's what what we are your average? Have
you got a please? That's the charity.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Have you got a reference?

Speaker 13 (01:06:03):
Oh yeah, we can get reference. So so you're you're
our referee.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Okay, yeah, fair enough. We'll actually wait.

Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
Wait, Kate, well that open doors or closed doors to
see how we go?

Speaker 12 (01:06:12):
Both?

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Good? Good question, Tim, without embarrassing you in any way,
shape or form, or demeaning your parenting acumen or skill.
Are your children at school today?

Speaker 13 (01:06:25):
I just mentioned it for three kids That was off
here to Sam and Kate. But three kids in school uniforms. Yeah, yeah,
three kids in school uniforms ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Good man, I love your style. What percentage do you
think we'll be going to school around the country today?

Speaker 21 (01:06:42):
I was just out walking the dog in a number
of children in school uniforms walking to school.

Speaker 14 (01:06:47):
I wanted to high five them. I was very impressed.
So I think potentially a few more than we think.

Speaker 13 (01:06:53):
Hey, listen briefly, I reckon more like seventy five percent
or dues.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
That's high. Actually, I'll give five hundred dollars the charity
of your choice if you get that. Fourteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Morning, Mike, what brand does your PHAM canon? Where did
you get it? Please? Good question. I'll come back to
you that. Mike thoughts on a nine nine six turbo
low case future collective question Mark not a bad question either. Jeez,
I've got a lot to do before.

Speaker 14 (01:07:27):
Nine o'clock turned into a car show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
It's not my fault. I'm just responding. Unlike Mark Brown.
Unlike Mark Brown, Prime Minister of the Cork Islands, I
answer to the people and when they ask, I answer anyway.
Foam canon, Katie backed me up. Was the foam canon
the greatest summer fun ever had?

Speaker 14 (01:07:46):
Well for you? I didn't use it, but it was
the best toy you bought. You had the most fun
with it. And effective yep, very effective?

Speaker 13 (01:07:54):
Well question question can it be used on boys aged
nine to two?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I reckon? I remember if you you foam Canadam, you'd
probably want to start with a foam gun because of
the pressure, pressure and really hurt a small child, especially
when you're not over his feet. But but but the
foam aspect of it, I cannot imagine more fun as
a young lad in my backyard if you can fad
a backyard in your inntal, of course, in my backyard

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being phoned.

Speaker 14 (01:08:22):
Dolly, send them around to my He'll phone them up.

Speaker 13 (01:08:25):
That sounds that sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Go get me.

Speaker 14 (01:08:28):
I've got a question for this morning.

Speaker 21 (01:08:29):
Do you think we could start a petition to get
New Zealand on here to provide some funding for David Seymour.

Speaker 14 (01:08:33):
To have his own comedy show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
He's very funny, exactly. Read the Hill, hilarious, Read the
Herald and the transcript of what Happened to My.

Speaker 21 (01:08:40):
Goodness the transcript it's it's like it's total outcomedied the comedian.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
And and why some margin, unfortunately, by some margin, it's
like Guy Williams brought a knife to a gunfight. I
think I think the issue is though Guy Williams is
used to audiences of sort of like agreeable, disenfranchised thirty
somethings giggling at crypto progressive quote unquote jokes, whereas David
Seymour is used to bigger, more aggressive audiences, like he's

(01:09:08):
used to being heckled, shouted down. It's just he's just match.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
But and the thing about Parol guy is he's living
in an old media landscape where he thinks he can
turn up at WAITANGI fire a few barbs, he'll slice
it back up in the editing facility and then present
it to you and in a in a way that
makes him look better than it is. And what Seymour's
doing that's so smart is he's micing up everything and
filming everything so you've already seen it before it ever
gets to a television program, which then leads you to

(01:09:34):
wonder how it is the taxpayer can afford a million dollars.
I mean, to be here, it's nine hundred and ninety
nine thousand dollars to make Lord knows whatever they call
that thing.

Speaker 13 (01:09:48):
You know what you should You should make an application, Mike,
I've got I've got an idea for you for a
comedic segment, which is that the next time you talk
to Winston Peters, can you remind him that your surname
is Hosking, not Hosk, then spell it out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
That's the fun.

Speaker 14 (01:10:02):
He knows, he knows, he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
He doesn't to rile me because he's done it for
twenty years, to rile me up. And it just doesn't.
It just doesn't rile me. Just got a minute later, Katie,
do you want to take this last sixty seconds to
defend the mowbrays and the helicopter pad in suburban Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:10:19):
Yes, yeah, I do. Actually, because I heard you bagging
that this week.

Speaker 21 (01:10:22):
Well you claim you weren't bagging it, but it sounds
like you were saying people in suburban areas shouldn't shouldn't
apply for helicopter licenses, And I disagreed with you, and said,
the hard working, good people doing great things for this country,
and if they want a chopper now and again, why
shouldn't they be allowed to what's the criteria?

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
So how good, how hard working do you need to
be before you're allowed a helicopter license in suburbia?

Speaker 21 (01:10:44):
Well, I'm happy for them to have it, and I'm
happy for Roderke to have it because these are people working,
putting a lot of business into our country. If they
want to chop this is the new Zealand attitude that's
got to change. We've got to stop poopooing everybody and
being so anti any sort of success and wanting every
body to just, you know, come down to a certain
level that we find acceptable. Why can't people be ambitious

(01:11:05):
and aspirational and do cool things?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Is there a lot we're looking with?

Speaker 13 (01:11:10):
That's why we're looking to buy, not rent?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Bomb Okay, no good, you're on that, you're on the
up and up. But is there a line between being aspirational,
ambitious and like really pissing off your neighbor.

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
I think you'll find it her in Bay. The liner
is theory, very small change.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Attitude got to change. Helicopter is in suburbia even in
a colder second, even in a colder second.

Speaker 14 (01:11:37):
Wismea, bring it on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Okay you heard you're not going to hear a lot
of coverage pro helicopter in colder sacks. I think this
is almost this is almost almost niche Wilson k hawksby
for another week A twenty one.

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We did. Then she left and she gave it back.

(01:13:02):
She gave it back, Mike. They sold it super cheap
for seventy nine dollars. Yeah, look you can get I
don't think it's I think mine's McGuire's might be on
my money. I can't remember, but they're all the same.
It's just a plastic bottle with a nozzle that sprays
foam everywhere. It's brilliant, Mike. We need your motoring show, knowledgeable,
passionate and humorous. Do it and though watch you of course, Ever, Mike,
what brand of foam Canon has I don't know. I

(01:13:23):
think McGuire's the nine nine six Turbo low Cas. There's
one for sale at the moment, two thousand and two
seventy something, K's on the clock manual and that's semi collectible.
Be careful, as Maserati's a fragile mike. The two best
days of a Maserati ownership the day you buy it
the day you sell it. It's been unfair. In answer
to the EV question, the reseller of the Maserati is

(01:13:47):
not important yet it is for the EV's fair point.
The difference between an EV and a Maserati is one
is beautiful and one isn't guess which one it is.
So you buy the Maserati, and everyone who's ever owned
a Maserati buys it for its sheer beauty, the fact
that it literally is worth nothing after about five years.
And new Maserati is worth about four hundred thousand dollars.
The GT, the brand new GT is about four hundred

(01:14:07):
thousand dollars. You can buy a five year old one
for eighty and so they tend to tank in value,
but they remain beautiful at all times. As regards my cannon,
secret and only it's a secret. I drive on dusty,
dirty country roads. So it's not caked on mud. I
think you'd have to scrub the car of its caked
on mud. But in terms of just dust and a
bit of break film and grime, your spray, you rinse it,

(01:14:30):
your foement, your foemen, you rinse it again. She's good
as gold. As far as I can tell. You need
a good quality water blaster though, of course news for
you in a couple of moments. Boy, Australia is a
busy place at the moment as well as being hot.
Murray Olds is but moments away.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
Justin from the States. The judge. They've always they were
always going to find one. This one's in Massachuset. It
has put a halt on the deadline. This was the deadline.
You had to quit or you weren't going to get
paid money. In other words, if you're a federal worker,
you could say I quit in return to the email.
They would pay you all your benefits and salary up
until September, and you had till midnight tonight their time
judge has put the kibosh on that, so they'll I'll

(01:15:18):
not necessarily go back to square one, but they'll have
to rethink about it next week. We found you a
full bore by the way snow cannon at Bunnings for
fifty ish bucks. Timu, We've got you one, but you
know I'm anti Temu. But it is seventeen dollars, which
is why Timu was tu seventeen fifteen. But as I

(01:15:38):
was just saying to Sammy, you can buy a lot
of water blasters and they come.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
With soe foam.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, where does that go?

Speaker 13 (01:15:45):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
You open it and so all it is is a
bottle with a lit So you put the foam in
the bottle and you connect it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
So, no, I've got that I'm talking about once you've
squidded it off your car.

Speaker 22 (01:15:57):
Yes, then what happens to it when you rinse it?
Because I noticed that there's those on the train. There's
a there's a bread Yeah, that's what I was worried about.
Because there's a brand here of snow cannon from an
outfit called the Chemical Guys.

Speaker 6 (01:16:10):
Oh yeah, full of and the Chemical Guys is just
going straight into the drain.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
How do you how do you think you can't car
gets clean? The chemicals and probably worse chemicals on the
on the phone that's pink or lime green?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
It's your's your phone? What color is your my my my.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Phone is just white, to be fair. But I want
to go pink. I want to go pink all green.
But it's so I was going to say water blast.
You can get a free one often twenty one minutes
away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
I'm Muriel. How are you good morning?

Speaker 10 (01:16:44):
Mate?

Speaker 12 (01:16:45):
Pretty well, you'd get few through a lot of those
cans with that fleet of Bentleys and rollers you've got,
would't you?

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Big cars? Murray, they're big, long cars and they take
a while to do it. This business that I cannot believe.
And this is politics one oh one, especially in election
when you're in a hole, either get yourself out of
the hole. But this caravan business is still going on.
And do we know when Elbow knew and was he
kept in the dark by the Feds.

Speaker 12 (01:17:12):
Well, look, it's a multi it's a big question, and
I mean it's emerging now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
It looks like it doesn't.

Speaker 12 (01:17:18):
Really matter when Albanese he knew or didn't know much
to Dutton. I mean, Dutton's here waving his arms around
saying it's inconceivable. But here's the thing. The Federal Police
on Thursday were in Canberra in a Senate estimates hearing
and they defended Alberanze. That didn't say if they told
him or not. Apparently the Premary of New South Wales

(01:17:39):
was told the day afterwards. Right, And it's now emerging
that the Australian Federal Police were called in and they
had a look at the caravan.

Speaker 11 (01:17:48):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:17:49):
The explosives inside were decades old. There was no detonator,
there was a you know, a beaten up old caravan
that appeared to have just been dumped. And they did
not assess it to represent any threat whatsoever. So I
don't know why you'd bother picking up the phone and
calling a Prime minister. I mean, it wasn't deemed to

(01:18:11):
be a threat at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Does this go back to what I was telling you
talking to you about last week, and that was this
theory that you know, it just could be a wild goose,
tests it was a threat of a threat. In other words,
so everyone just nothing was going to happen, but you
freak everybody out.

Speaker 12 (01:18:26):
Well possibly, I mean the couple who apparently owned the caravan,
who the last ones to have any access to it.
I mean, between them, I don't think their IQ would
surpass thirty. And they are in the clink for unrelated
defenses but not unrelated to anti Semitism. So whether or
not they wrote some note in crayon I hate the

(01:18:47):
Jews whatever the note has not been made public, but
suffice to say the authorities he had, domestic and international
terrorism agencies, intelligence agencies as well state and federal police,
they're all over this like a cheap suit. So you know,
I mean, and Dunton don't think that Peter Dutton is
a former policeman as if as if the primaris is

(01:19:10):
going to come out blabbing about you know, if it
was a matter of extreme significance.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Is if he's going to come out to tell you
about it. You know that's fair enough. Speaking of anti
Semitis and these new rules or laws they're looking to,
are they going to do anything? Is their confidence that
they will be on?

Speaker 12 (01:19:24):
No good question. The Jewish community in Australia definitely has
been pushing for this. So to Peter Dutton in the opposition, Labor,
of course, it's anathema to labor to have mandaty sentences
for anything. It should be left, is what Labour says
it should be in every single case. It should be
up to the presiding judge or magistrate to determine the
effect and appropriate sentence. So for Labor to buckle here,

(01:19:49):
because that's what's happened. Labor has buckled. Albanesian company have
buckled and brought in these minimum crimes, minimum sentences for
these crimes. I'm just having a quick look at the notes.
So here we go jail terms of at least twelve
months for displaying hate symbols such as Nazi flags and
the like, three years for financing terrorist groups, at least

(01:20:11):
six years for committing any terrorist deemed it to be
a terrorist offence. So Labors come reluctantly to the kicking
and screaming, as the opposition said, whether it's going to
change anything, I don't know. I don't get the impression
that these people are scared of anything. They go out
and they spray this rubbish on fences of their synagogues
and private homes, exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:20:31):
I don't think they care.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Less what about this lunch thing. So if you're the
biggin und of town, you can do whatever you like
and claim it off tax I'm sprighted. It's a weird
old thing because we do that. We've had this rule
here forever. It's like if you're a business person and
you take your mate out for lunch and it's you go, well,
what about that contract? Was that a good contract? You know,
there's your business write it off And that's how it.

Speaker 12 (01:20:53):
Works well over here that it was the norm for
for decades was outlawed though, gee whiz if I said
twenty years ago for the obvious reason it could be
raughted silly. And that's exactly what the Labor government here
with Albanezian Company are saying. They have had the coalition

(01:21:14):
policy for these tax deductible business lunches. The reckon is
going to cost between one point six and ten billion
dollars a year. They're all going to be going out
scoffing and troffing and staggering back to work after lunch
writing it off against the taxpayer. Well, the government says
it's just a nonsense policy with no flesh on the bone.
Angus Taylor of the Shadow Treasurer. He's waving his arms

(01:21:37):
around as saying the cost of this policy would be
far less than that proposed with the government, but he
is not telling us what the cost of the policy is.
So until they've actually come out with the dollar figure,
we have no idea just how much it will cost.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
It's all money, but I mean part part of that.
I saw an interview on it. The point was made
and I thought it was very fair. I mean, if
it is going to cost ten billion dollars, that's ten
billion dollars in the hospital sector. In the hospital sector
would like the ten billion dollars. So, I mean someone
wins somewhere, don't they either the taxpayer doesn't win a well,
the hospital does, and vice versa.

Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
That's great.

Speaker 12 (01:22:06):
If you want to take your mate out to lunch,
you pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Yeah, all right? That what's her name?

Speaker 11 (01:22:10):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
It was Handlin, wasn't it. Yeah, Joe Halen Halen, Yeah.
I watched her press conference and this where I just
she goes very difficult to be a mother and a minister,
and I thought, don't run that line with me when
you're you didn't have any trouble getting to the vineyard,
did you that's true, you haven't. There's a difficult balance
between drinking and being a minister as well. I mean,

(01:22:31):
that's just how she thought she would. I mean, and
what this men's guy who I don't know nearly as
well as you do. I thought he was okay, But
where's his backbone?

Speaker 12 (01:22:42):
But it smells to high heaven there's no way known.
Joe Halen is the only one. She's the only one
to get caught. That's the bottom line. Calls for every
ministerial travel log book to be made public. Oh no, no, no,
nothing to see here, says Chris Mend's the premiere, so
he's put that well and truly to bear. We won't
see anyone else's log log books. And don't forget this

(01:23:04):
for me was a classic gets square by the union
movement here against the labor minister too. Mike Halen was
a very effective transport minister. She was after the I
mean here in New South Wales, the railed union wants
a twenty five percent pay rise now twenty five percent,
and the government stared them down. Well, I'll tell you what.

(01:23:24):
The union movement, the railed union and the union that
runs the outfit that supplies drivers for ministerial cars. You
can't tell me they weren't meeting over a couple of
beers in the local pub because someone fed all that
information to the media about Halen ducking off the winery
for lunch and for birthday parties and dropping off the
kids for school sport and all the rest of it.

(01:23:45):
And she was stitched up like a piglet at Christmas.
And I mean that for me, is absolutely aware that
this has come from. It's a union gets square and
she's not the only one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Exactly. Go well, mate, we'll see an next frider appreciated.
Oh how hot? To answer me this question?

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
On?

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
So, my daughter's in Melbourne and she lives there. Anyway,
point is it's been at thirty nine in Melbourne. She
can't sleep too hot. So and I talk to average
Australians to go thirty nine, mate, we're at forty seven
the other day. It's nothing. Now, at what point does
it even for a Sydney cider of your long standing,
At what point does it get what's the number? What's

(01:24:23):
too hot?

Speaker 12 (01:24:24):
Well, it depends if you throw in humidity, and humidity
can make a thirty degree day feel like a forty
degree day if you live in South Australia, as I
did for three years, four years. Actually the heat there
comes straight off the desert. There's no humidity, as dry
as anything because it comes off the desert. You can
deal with forty degrees in Adelaide, but forty degrees in

(01:24:44):
Sydney feels like about fifty because you're drenched and sweat
the moment you step out the door.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Okay, sure it doesn't answer it, Murray, I don't know
where I'm at.

Speaker 12 (01:24:55):
Say thirty degrees and that feels like you're roasting.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Good on your mate, Now go, we'll see you're saying
thirteen Tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
B turn away from nine. Mike, you need to go
retro get yourself a Holden Sandman panel van. Thank you,
James if you haven't. Mike Brewer, who runs a show
on the Turbo Channel on Sky fifty five, I assume
you can still get it even with satellite problems at
the moment. Is that over or not? Do we know
there's still got satellite problems?

Speaker 6 (01:25:24):
Isn't it going to be a problem until April.

Speaker 10 (01:25:26):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I noticed the chief financial officer resigned the other day
with an immediate effect. I don't think it was her fault,
was she? I mean, unless she was up there bumping
satellites or something.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
Or was that why it went wrong because they didn't
pay the bills?

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
No, what's going anyway? Mike Brewer does a think a
program called dream Car.

Speaker 6 (01:25:39):
Is this the same Mike Brewer used to play number
eight for Otago.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Different Mike Brewer, completely different. And if you saw Mike
Brewer his shape, you'd think that guy's never played number
eight at all. He's about four foot nine and eight
feet wide anyway, but a nice guy, and he did
a show on the Holden Sandman panel van. He went
to Australia and they bought a cheap one and tarted
it up. Mike the Ellerslye carsh featuring the Lazie Concord

(01:26:02):
de les is on the racecourse this Sunday. So if
you're listening in Auckland's I've been to that. That's brilliant.
Thanks for the heads up, Steve, Mike. I think Winston's
mellowing in his senior years. A couple of years ago,
the anointing justinder comment would have set him off. That's
probably true, Marcus. I think he's taking himself seriously at
last because he knows this is his last chance, and
he knows if he can get the economy back running,
he can get another term. So I think he's fine

(01:26:23):
to be woken up.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
I mean, he almost got your name right this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
He almost got it right. But I think yeh see,
I would be disappointed if he actually got my name right.
I think that would be the last this time. But
it's always it's been Hoskins. There's has but I've always
put that down to a state of well being at
that hour of the morning. Personally eight away from.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Nine the Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
The LA News togs Head be Business DESCNAE is running
a story this morning that our defense force is refusing
to say whether the ammunition stocks were allowed to run
down about fifty rounds of artillery ammunition. A couple of
sources tole Business Desks that the ammunition supply was fifty
shells at one point. I means, I suppose I should

(01:27:09):
take that to you. But what is it we do
with our shells in you should have been in the
middle of the desert road in a practice. What is
it we do? Honestly? Is there a savings thing there?
We could save a lot of money by not having
any bullets five minutes away from mine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Trending now with warehouse, the real house of Fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Jurassic Park.

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
Is back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
If you can believe it, this would be a medical
breakthrough that could save countless slaves.

Speaker 13 (01:27:39):
It comes from the largest dinosaurs on the planet. My god.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
Fortunately for us, all these species exist in one isolated place.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Can you do any tomorrow?

Speaker 13 (01:27:51):
I can guarantee your states to you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
I've been more or less, more.

Speaker 17 (01:27:55):
Or less.

Speaker 13 (01:27:58):
No one's dumb enough to go with are gone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
These dinosaurus. We're too dangerous for the original part. The
worst of the worst we're left here. The worst of
the worst were left there, so they're game back there.
So Scarlett Johansen and Maschal Ali mahosheal Ali from what exactly?

(01:28:34):
You can't hear You wouldn't have a clear right.

Speaker 6 (01:28:37):
You couldn't hear him, he said, So he's from so much?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yes, so much? When did that run? From win to win?
Who were there? A gone?

Speaker 13 (01:28:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
The green Book? Were the Arragon actor glad we got
that out out second of July. That look I gotta
be on. I thoroughly enjoyed this morning. It's difficult. It's
a difficult day when you're working when you know full
well that vast swathes of the rest of the country.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
Aren't do it make you feel like you're back on
Saturday mornings again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
Very similar. Yes, it had that kind of no one's here,
but you know, we had a good time anyway kind
of vibe.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
Let's go the one day week, Eh, how productive we
could be if.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
We only turned up one day week. I'm going to
give that some thought. Anyway, We'll look forward to your
company Monday Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
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