Full Show Podcast: 08 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, Togs,
EDBS morning You welcome today.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Western seems to start the campaign early Razer on Saturday
and how good that was for Rugby. Good news from
the Health Department as operations are up and targets are exceeded.
Got the Prime Minister in for a Monday word of course,
the lads in the commentary box, Richard Arnold, Steve Price
in the mix as well. Hosky, Welcome to the new week.
Seven past six. What a contrast Saturday night was I
at Eden Park, Rugby as good as you could possibly want.

(00:33):
For all the hype and the worry of the week,
the All Blacks reminded us that when it comes together,
when it really matters and records of significance are on
the line, there was no side in the world that
can touch them. We won well, we never looked like
we would lose, and when you know you're that good,
there's no reason to believe you won't win the rest
of the season. Meantime, in the by election, what a
shocking reminder of several things. One give an MMP, we

(00:54):
no longer need Maory seats. Two given those who argue
for Maori seats do so at least in part because
Maury new to see themselves represented and they need the
chance to participate. Why don't they The turnout was appalling.
It was a joke. Three What does the result tell
you about the Labor Party? Four? What does the result
tell you about the Maori Party. Let's deal with three. First,

(01:15):
the seat'sman, Henaray's for three terms until he lost last
time by forty two votes. Not great, but not the
end of the world. Yet Saturday they rejected him spectacularly.
Not only couldn't they get the vote out, those that
did turn up didn't want Heneray all Labor. You can
argue all you want about by elections and history and turnouts,
but this was embarrassing. But back to four, this was
not a win for the candidate either. This was a
win for the party. The candidate didn't seem up to much. Worryingly,

(01:38):
that doesn't seem to matter, which indicates in most races,
we don't vote for the individual, we vote for the party.
The Maori Party will be worried because they too failed
to get the vote out, but boyd I guess by
the fact that they seem to have the Maori vote
such as it is stitched up. So the All Blacks
march on after one of the great matches, the Marory
Party take a win that was worryingly troubled, and the

(01:58):
Labor Party must really be wondering if the size of
this rejection is potentially there to be played out again
next to you short of them doing something pretty spectacular
between now and next October and obium news of the world,
and for all the coalition of the Willing meetings that
still hasn't stopped. The bombs dropping keeps been hit again
as I was sleeping or heard the explosion. The house shook,

(02:23):
the sixth floor balcony is on fire.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I just have no more wits left to express what
I feel towards Russia.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Only expletives.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, the idea of a Putin meeting seems farstical.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I always said we can't trust he played games, and
he's playing games with the United States.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Putin's goal is doc You've paid Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
So the pressure's back on Trump.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Are you ready to hoo for the second phase of
factions against Russia.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I think he's probably going to turn up at the
tennis shortly and that may well turn into a news
story today when I say him, that's Trump and he's
at the US Open final. And the last time he
turned up there was a tremendous amount of booing, so
much booing that they couldn't avoid the booing. So they've
asked the networks, if there's a lot of booing, please
don't focus on the booing. In Britain, Farag's head a
triumph and the week end at this conference, they've tested

(03:13):
their cell phones for emergencies that didn't go well. By
the way, I'll come back to all of that. And
the government has come up with a new place to
put the illegals from boats. They're thinking barracks.

Speaker 7 (03:21):
We are looking at the potential use of military and
non military use sites for temporary accommodation for the people
who come across on these small boats that may not
have a right to be here or need to be
processed rapidly.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Obviously not universally supported.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
I don't see a way for the government to be
able to use small military sites without a lot of opposition.
So on humanitarian grounds, these sites are not fit for
human habitation.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And then enter France, where it would appear that by
about this time tomorrow they're going to be looking for
a new government and the UPM.

Speaker 8 (03:59):
Francois by so propose as a budget that once again
penalizes the most vulnerable working class families, ordinary workers. What
we need today is to rebalance the state's finances, to
go looking for wealth where it actually is.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I don't think he's got the number some how. Finally,
by the way, Trump has turned up at Flushing Meadow
and they did, in fact booth. Finally, Joe Chesnut has
done it again. He was competing in the World Poutine
Eating Championship. He did twelve kgs a poutine and he
did it in ten minutes, which is roughly twenty two
and a half thousand calories in ten minutes. The guy
got sick and was on gate points into calories to

(04:32):
use the World of nine. Tell you what's a busy
morning today? Good news. The Japanese finalized their trade tariffs
with the US at fifteen percent, so Issubar, the Prime Minister,
would have gone fuel and that's just before he quit.
So that happened late last night in Japan. So he's gone.
They're going to have to hold an emergency leadership vote.
But this is the Liberal Democrat party. So he's been

(04:53):
in trouble ever since the last election. He's been pondering
his future. He pondered no more. He's walked twelve.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
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Speaker 2 (05:11):
The other thing that's happening. France is going to be
the big one this week, but Norway's voting as we speak,
Norway voting today and tomorrow. Small country, but they box
above their weight in that particular part of the world.
So Labor run the place. The Tories ran it for
a long time. Labour won the last election, so they're
looking for a second four year term. They're up against
a coalition of a couple of right wing parties or

(05:32):
right ish wing parties. Wealth tax is one of the
hot topics big no vote at the moment, so the
polls have it either way. So we'll probably know, hopefully
by tomorrow. Fifteen past six. Generate Greek Smith, good morning
to you.

Speaker 9 (05:50):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, last time the job numbers came in, they weren't
that good. He sacked people. He's got no one to
sack this time, So how do we explain it?

Speaker 9 (05:57):
Yeah, he's he gonna explain it this time around. He
might have to own the trend. The jobs market, the
world's largest economy is clearly slowing down. It's not just
about sort of the messaging. The numbers, non fine pay rolls.
They rose by just twenty two thousand August, so that
was massively blow the consensus forecast of seventy five thousand.
It was a slow down from July, which was revised
higher to seventy nine thousand. But June was the shocker.

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It actually showed a contraction of thirteen thousand jobs rather
than growth, so that was lowered by twenty seven thousand.
So unemployment that hit four point three percent, participation rate
sixty two percent. If you look at a broad measure
of unemployment that looks at discouraged workers and those are
holding part time jobs for economic reasons, that hit eight
point one percent, and that's the high since October twenty

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twenty one. Earnings are up point three percent. Health Care
still led the way up thirty one thousand, but federal
government hiring that was down fifteen thousand and manufacturing down
twelve thousand worth, noting that's the fourth monthly drop, So
you Trump, you might have to own the trend. If
you look at the river after the revisions, total jobs
might ad in May, June, July, and August. They're bet

(07:02):
the same as what was added in August twenty twenty
four last year. So certainly going to put some pressure
on the Fed cut rates. A rate cut next week
is now a lock in. It's probably also why the
US market didn't react too severely. So there have been
some notes that with that negative month that's been a
precursor of recessions in the past. You've got two thousand
and one in two thousand and seven. But the big

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caveat is it's downtowns in the past have been avoided
where the feed's embarked on a big easing campaign. So
Droon Powell is prettydubbish when he spoke a few weeks ago.
So the bell might certainly have been rung for the feed.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
They might now the tech companies, the numbers now just
look ridiculous, don't they. I mean, they're amazing, absolutely, So
it was still a big week for tech spite a
bit of softness in the video on Friday, for instance,
but eight companies worth overite trillion dollars they combined value
roads at four hundred and twenty billion dollars last week
hit twenty one trillion. They now account for more than

(07:57):
thirty five percent of SMP five hundred. So what sparked
it off or Google's parent alphabet.

Speaker 9 (08:02):
They got that positive ruling, so it doesn't look like
they're going to be broken up anytime soon. They are
up ten percent over the week. Nevigate to EF It's
basically to break up the monopoly, all they really have
to do is shared that with competitors.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Basically, the courts of.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Acknowledged that with Generative AI, the search market's a lot
more competitive than when people sort of first talked about
antitrust allegations a few years ago. Also means that gil
can continue to pay Apple billions of dollars to be
the default search engine on iPhones, clears the path for
them to have a bigger deal with Gemini. Yeah, so
basically the monopoly is sort of safe near to them,

(08:38):
maybe not longer term. AI is obviously going to have
more to say about that, and it's also what investors
sort of shrugged off. They got to go up a
three billion euro fire from Erigulas on Friday, but to
investors overlook that also broadcme they had a really good
result as well. They're a big chip maker. They make
chips to Google, Meta and tip Top. Revenues there six billion,
mic actually growing it over sixty percent annually, andronounced a

(09:01):
ten billion dollar contract with a customer believed to be
Open AI. So these years are up nine percent on Friday.
There isn't one hundred and twenty percent over the past year.
They're also in the trillion dollar club one point six trillion,
still less than half in the video, but it's catch
up on a few fronts. And just on the subject
of market caps, tears a wilding at that, don't we
Mike up over five percent last week. They've approved to

(09:22):
pay plan for Musk or they want to approve one
that could be up to almost one trillion dollars. I
can get the company's market cap up towards two trillions.
It's about double worders now, so big numbers.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mike, Yeah, I wish them well with that because it's
not going to happen. Lulu Lemon, Now, I was talking
to somebody about this over the weekend. So my understanding
is the young kids all like baggy clothes. Now they
like cheap and there's dupes out there, and they've just
lost their shine basically.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
Basically, I think, yeah, they sort of haven't kept up
with the times, and management made the point about that.
They said they've become too predictable with their casual offerings
and they're going to accelerate innovation. So I suppose Shopers Mike,
they can expect the new legging styles they and increasing
new styles from twenty three percent of overall assortment to
thirty five percent. Yeah, the she has had a chakra
on Friday down nineteen percent. Actually beat on earnings, revenues missed,

(10:09):
and always an expected outlooks. So they're also getting hit
by tariffs as well, and they expect this to hit
four year profits by two hundred and forty million dollars,
and also being hit by the removal this Deminimus exemption
which excluded smaller ships from tariff. So yeah, that's sort
of going to affect them as well. But yeah, certainly
they want to be more relevant. Of course as well,
they're being hit by the So it's the US economy

(10:31):
and the US consumer which has become increasingly more discerning
and includes yoga pants that seems so of course cost
the living pressures and economic concerned. So yeah, she is
down heavily on Friday and down over fifty percent years
a day numbers please, So the day actually held up
pretty well on Friday year despite his job numbers half
percent for also down half percent to say, forty five

(10:51):
four hundred AC and P five hundred was down point
three percent six four eight one. And there's that pretty
flat twenty one seven hundred foot see down point one
percent nine zero six better news and age and nickel
at one percent asex two hundred and half percent. Inzex
fifty we're up point seven percent thirteen two to two
three just in the combodity markets, gold up forty dollars

(11:11):
three five eight six and ounce oil down a dollar
sixty sixty one spot eighty seven. Currencies against the US
styllar kiwi with fifty eight point nine point eight percent,
Austra and A nine point nine ups slightly as well,
up also against the British pound forty three point six
and the end eighty six point nine. This week plenty
going on locally, visitor arrivals got card spending, got some

(11:33):
manufacturing data. We've got half few results in Briscoes. That'll
be a good side on the consumer off Sure, we've
got Chinese trade data, inflation, also inflation in the US
and the European Central Bank meeting.

Speaker 10 (11:44):
We'll get some.

Speaker 9 (11:44):
Results as well coming through. I got Oracle, Adobe and
a sporting one from Manchester.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
United Go well, Mam Greg Smith from Generate Wealth and
ki We Sabers specialists past Game Japan mentioned them a
moment ago. Real wages though term positive for the first
time in seven months and maybe issue but shouldn't have quit.
Maybe this good news still to come. Josh Hellen, by
the way, left Nike over the weekend, landed at New Balance.
The NFL kicked off over the weekend, so they will
have paid him nicely and that's a big win for

(12:09):
New Balance. Six twenty one at news Talks, a't.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
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Speaker 2 (12:25):
At be Morning, Mike's split screens next Saturday Night. Silly
stuff here it is. It's unfortunate, isn't Panther's worst possible
scenario to be frank? Wasn't it didn't play well, lost
the game. She never lost the game. Blah blah blah
normally most years of the thirty one years. I followed
them at say it would be good news, that would
be celebrating this sixth fantastic wahoo, here we go playoffs?
Time doesn't figure that way, does it? Already? Where close anyway?

(12:48):
Raises with us after seven o'clock. I'm mixing the two sports,
but I'm assuming you knowing what I'm talking about. Morning,
My New Zealand politics Marie electric by election, twenty percent
turnout and a politician showed herself unsuitable. Beats are capable
and respected MP hopeless. That's yet another reason why we
shouldn't move to a four year term. Look to the UK,
look to France for reasons and plowed quickly and the
voters get stuck with a useless government. I mean it's

(13:10):
hard to argue with that. I mean, what you saw
on Saturday night was a disgrace. But I suppose that's
the beauty of democracy, isn't it. You've got the freedom
to make it a disgrace. Six twenty five.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Trending now with him as well. Spring Frenzy sale.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
On Now last week it was the tennis where the
bloke snatched the player's hat from the kid. Now it's
the baseball we've got Cheryl Richardson Wagner. She's been caught
on camera having a crack at a dad and his
son over a home run ball. So replays seemed to
show that the dad got the ball fair and square,
but Cheryl wasn't convinced. Could you hear that? She sounds

(13:53):
like she's whining anyway, Sports Center ESP and waden.

Speaker 11 (13:57):
Oh she went after and watch she murdered.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Sheers big nat like he went into her space to
get it.

Speaker 12 (14:03):
Well, like how that watched it.

Speaker 13 (14:04):
He goes on and on not and the dad immediately
is like, well, okay, if it means that much to you,
he takes the ball from his kid's glove and goes
here and you can have it, really.

Speaker 11 (14:17):
Lady, it's a collar at Karen.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It ended well though, because Harrison Bader, who's with the Phillies,
he hit the blog who hit the home run. He
saw the clip and he gave the kid his signed back.
So I'd take a bat over a ball any day
of the week. Got some very good news on the
health front for you, so they set some targets in
terms of operations and procedures. Now, to be fair, some
of them were philly easy. They were cataracts, and cataracts

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are a lot easier to do, for example, than knees
and hips. But nevertheless, they exceeded their targets. So things
starting to move materially in the hill sector. So we'll
have a look at this in the the next half
hour of the program. Winston Peter's after seven. If you
watched the speech yesterday, it was over an hour. It
was moderately entertaining, It was a big crowd and he
seemed to like it and he had some interest ideas.
So we'll talk to him after seven o'clock prime minutes

(15:02):
through until this Monday morning as well. Meantime news is
next year a news talk sad.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
Be not the quickst from Britain I mentioned at the
start of the program they did the phone test. What
was unusual about the phone test, you know, the emergency
alert thing on the phone that we've all gone through
over and over and over in this country. They've only
done it twice in Britain, and the second time was overnight,
and it was a complete cock up because they did
a lot of it. They tried to do a lot
of it on e Alive on television. It sort of
didn't turn up at the right time.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
Was interested that they use the exact same noise that
we do well.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think that's a universal noise. You go to the
universal noise store, pay your money and you get a
universal noise. The other thing that happened that was of
far more importance over the weekend when we left your
Friday rainers seemed to be in real trouble. By Saturday,
she'd quit and that then sparked what I can only assume.
We'll talk to Rod more about it tomorrow, but I
can only assumes complete panic because it's one thing for

(15:58):
her to quit, and there's now an open contest, and
that's part of the problem for the deputy leadership of
the Labor Party. But Starmer pulled the trigger on a
major cabinet reshuffle, including Lammy the Foreign Minister's gone, and
so a whole lot of people are new in their
jobs and so we'll, you know, count but something's gone
seriously wrong there so we'll need to watch the space

(16:19):
twenty two to seven meantime. Back here our new health
data Richard Arnold shortly, by the way, new health data
out this morning. In March, the government committed to an
extra ten thousand, five hundred and seventy nine procedures before
the end of June. Right did they hit that daye it?
Sixteen thousand and five were completed, which is fifty one
percent more than they actually planned. Just over five thousand

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of those were cataracts, six hundred and thirty eight hit
seven hundred and fifty one knees. Chris Wakeman as General
Surgeon also at the University of Waikato, University of a Tago,
Rubber in christ Church, where he is a senior lecturer. Chris,
morning to you, Good morning. In the grand scheme of things,
how effective has this group of procedures been in the
overall idea of getting rid of a weight list?

Speaker 14 (17:03):
It clears a lot of cases off the weight list.
I mean the chosen cases which are hard to turn
the quick efficient and there is a wait time for it.
If you've got a cataract and you've been waiting, of
course you're very grateful.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
What's the value of a target is it just money?
Is it space? Is it labor? Is it the organization?
Is it where you are in the country?

Speaker 15 (17:25):
What is it?

Speaker 14 (17:27):
I think the value of the number is just to
try and clear people off just it looks good. It
is good clearing ten fifteen thousand patients off weightless.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
What is it they do in that case? Then in
the sense, why don't we just have a whole lot
of targets all the time and you know, crack.

Speaker 14 (17:43):
On, Well, we used to have targets and they were
removed and that gave you something to aim for and
you knew what we were standing compared to last year
or the year before. So I think it's beneficial to
have a target to know what you're trying to do,
what you're trying to achieve.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Cataracts at five thousand strikes me as being there. They're
an easy hit. Is that fair if you want to
drum some numbers upas.

Speaker 14 (18:05):
Yeah, definitely, And they've chosen chosen the easy hitters to say.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, so the northern region, I'm looking at the numbers
that I don't know whether this means anything. The northern,
the mid central, the southern, the South Island. I mean,
is this this post code healthcare or not.

Speaker 14 (18:23):
It's a bit hard to know because I mean I
don't know for the Southern is that Tamaru or is
that Dunedin or us in christ jets doing all those operations.
I know we've been doing quite a few, and it's interesting.
The easy hitters, as you say, I mean, Guyany was
the one which stuck stood out to me. There's not
much guyny being done, but there's a lot of unmet

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need in gynecology and part of the problem is actually
getting people into into outpatients, assessing them, getting them ready
for surgery now in a rush, right, and then getting
them out contract so.

Speaker 15 (18:58):
Numbers down.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
How does this work in a high Do you get
an email from somebody going, hey, look we've got a
big target here, let's let's go for it over I mean,
how does it unfold?

Speaker 14 (19:07):
No, it's a little bit secret sqrarel.

Speaker 16 (19:09):
We don't know.

Speaker 14 (19:10):
With my public hat on, I don't know. I contracting
stuff out and private. The private hospitals then contact the
private institution rooms, so the surgical rooms, and say you've
got ten contract cases you need to do, do them
with the next six weeks or whatever, and they then

(19:31):
send a hospital name and number and some details and
you contact that patient, get them into your rooms, and
hopefully they're appropriate.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
To be done right. And so you feel that things
have been moving. You can see that as a doctor
on the front line, that you are doing some more work.

Speaker 14 (19:46):
With my private hat on. I'm definitely seeing every week
I get one or two cases come through the rooms
which need need to be put on a private list
to get contracted out and get done efficiently.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Do you breakdown of kids fifteen percent, with children forty
nine percent, we're over sixty five, sixty six percent with
New Zealand Europeans. Do we have any indication of whether
that's how that's approached or why that's approached that way,
or you just do as you're told them.

Speaker 14 (20:14):
My feeling is that they're just they're not worried about
if you're on the waiting list. There's no check up
of trying to get rid of certain targets for ethnicities
of ages like the previous institution, previous years we've done.
It is just a matter of trying to get as
many patients as soon as possible.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Very broadly, are we on the right track here?

Speaker 14 (20:40):
Yes, I think it is a really good maneuver. It
worries me long term training. What are our doctors, surgeons
and ethetists in ten years time? What even theater nurses,
how are they are going to be able to handle
the smaller cases and the high turn other cases that
they don't see them in the public institutions.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, okay, Chris shot it very much. Chris Wakeman, General
Surgeon and at the University of Otago's references. The more
you go the private the training is done at the public,
and if they don't see as much in public, you
don't get as much training done. Let's go to the stage.
In Richard Donald shortly eighteen to two.

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Speaker 12 (21:24):
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Speaker 2 (21:25):
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Speaker 2 (21:33):
Biside Richard Old Morning, good morning. You make so precious
back on Trump. I'm assuming, given there's no meeting in
the bombs are still falling.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
You would think Russia's Putin has just slammed Ukraine with
the biggest area bombardment of the war so far. They
launched more than eight hundred drones in their latest volley
and other weapons as well, targeting science, including the building
in the main square in Kiev which houses Ukraine's governing cabinet,
so no stop signs are there. Ukraine managed to shoot
many of those drones, but part of the roof of

(22:01):
the building was set a light. So this after the
Trump imposed two week deadline for peace talks between Putin
and Zelenski expired, and just days after that summit in
Beijing featuring what China, Russia, India, and North Korea tagged
as a new World Order or whatever we should call them.
So now Trump has been calling European leaders and urging
them to put more pressure on China. Treasury Secretary Scott

(22:23):
Besson says today the US is open to an expanded
partnership to apply more sanctions on those who buy Russian oil.

Speaker 17 (22:30):
He says the US and the EU can come in
to more sanctioned secondary tariffs on the countries that buy
Russian oil. The Russian economy will be in four collapse
and that will bring President Putin.

Speaker 18 (22:44):
To the table.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Trump already imposed fifty percent tariffs on India, citing the
country's continuing purchase of Russian oil. Not clear how close
any of these new sanctions is, says Bessent of this situation.

Speaker 17 (22:59):
We're prepared increase pressure and Russia. We need our European
partners to follow us.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
In an interview with America's ABC Now Ukraine, Zelensky says
he thinks that imposing tariffs in.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
This way is the right tack. He says, we have
to stop by any kind of energy from Russia.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
But the way anything any deals, we can't have any
deals if we want to sob down.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Asked about the Alaska somewhere between Trump and Putin, Zelenski
says he wasn't there, but he says Putin got everything
he wanted in terms of international pr The latest Putin
gambit is to suggest that Zelenski could visit Moscow if
he wishes for any.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Direct talks over the wars. Zelenski says, well.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
He can come to Kiev.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Tennis underway, Yeah, so it's underway right now.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
The big finals match sh at the US Open between
Spain's color Sakaras and Italysianik Sinner, the two rising stars
in the game. Trump decided to attend, but the last
time he was there in twenty fifteen, he was raucously boots,
So the White House asked the broadcasters to tensor any booze,
and the US Tennis Association agreed. They requested the broadcasters

(24:07):
any protests or other reactions to Trump from the telecast.
When Trump arrived at the stadium, he appeared briefly for
a cameo, which was not carried live. Some cheers were heard,
while the overwhelming reaction Trump's fist, pumps and whales were
gears and booze from the tennis fans. Then the idea
was to have Trump shown on screen as the national
anthem was being sung, so the anthem would cover up

(24:28):
any crowd noise, even if fans decided to challenge etiquette.
Here's what happened when Trump's image appeared.

Speaker 11 (24:35):
That are flag was.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
So, there's Trump appearing on screen.

Speaker 11 (24:41):
There say that star.

Speaker 12 (24:48):
Yeah, well kind of covered the whole thing, didn't it.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
But those notes were held for a long long while.

Speaker 10 (24:56):
She was out of breath.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Anyhow, not clear wherether any anti Trump proto will are
up during the match, and presumably those in the crowd
have their own mobile phones to get around any network
TV broadcast censorship in this land of the Free.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
See Wednesday Richard Old State side Department of War if
you missed it over the weekend. Pentagon's going to become
the Department of War the way it used to be
many years ago, and Hexseth is going to be the
Secretary of War. Perhaps more worryingly for them this morning
is the NBC poll that's out. He's underwater in a
major way. Trump forty three percent approve, fifty seven percent disapprove,

(25:29):
thirty nine percent approve of his handling of inflation, forty
one percent approve of his handling of trade and tariffs. So,
in other words, more people disapprove and the other one
to watch this week In America, they rounded up the
Ice agents, rounded up a lot of Koreans and the
South Korean government. This is in America. This is a
a at a factory in Georgia. LG Energy Solutions rounded

(25:50):
up hundreds of them, allegedly four hundred and seventy five
in fact, allegedly they're there illegally on temporary visas, on
a temporary visa account work in America, So the government
is dispatched, as in the Korean government's dispatched a bunch
of people to Washington try and sort this out. But
it looks increasingly tense, so we'll see where this goes.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Ten to seven, The Make Casting Breakfast with Bailey's real
estate news dog Zebby.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
What are defections going on at the moment? Are Nadine
Doris who is a very high profile ex Tory minister
in Britain. She defected over the weekend to reform, so
that seems to be running at about one or two
people a week at the moment. I read a very
good piece from the Political Letter of the BBC. He
said he's been to any number of conferences, he's never
seen anything like what's happening with reform in Britain at

(26:34):
the moment. So let's deal more with that with Rod tomorrow.
Also speaking of defections, is this possibility.

Speaker 11 (26:40):
They don't listen to national radio and they trust.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Mike Hosking far more than the PM to tell them
how it is. Stuart Nath they seem to agree with them.
Stuart Nash at the New Zealand First conference over the weekend,
so that seems to be kind of I'm heading that
way and this process to go through, and once I've
gone through the process, I'll probably end up a potentially
an MP and presumably a senior player and the New

(27:04):
Zealand First Party, which brings us to Winston Peter's after
seven o'clock this morning. If Peters goes, which you will eventually,
maybe not this election, but he needs some sort of
succession plan, maybe Nashes that, maybe Jones is it? Can
anyone name me anybody from New Zealand First apart from
Jones and Peter's And that in part is their problem,
isn't it. So they need more robust representation, So that

(27:24):
might be part of the bigger plan, the bigger picture.
Five minutes away from seven well, the ins and.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
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Speaker 2 (27:35):
In Peter's with us directly after seven o'clock this morning.
Calm cations have been the rage this travel season. Other
side of the world. They're in autumn, they're heading towards winter,
of course, So what were the trends of the summer
of twenty twenty five or the trend was calm caass.
It's when you book somewhere quiet to get away from
it all, wanting to get away from the doors, particularly traffic.
People hate traffic and they want to get away from it,

(27:56):
as well as going somewhere like a cabin where there's
nature and there's no internet and you can unwind. So
a number of travel sites, from booking dot com to weir,
b and b and Expedia, have cited these particular types
of holidays as being among the most popular for the
holiday season. Napa Valley is very popular, Arizona very high
as far as the States are concerned, the Norwegian coast,

(28:17):
and off the beaten track places in London, Off the
beaten track places in London. What does that even mean?
Off the beaten track places in London. When people book
the holidays, they didn't book a lot of activities apparently,
so now mad rushes to see a temple or a
full day excuse and they just got their cabin in
Arizona and said, has a serenity Scott Robertson to celebrate.

(28:43):
I don't know how banged up they are. I mean
some of them are more banged up than others, obviously,
but we've only got a week between games. So Scott
Robinson in the next half hour of the program, Christoph
luxon on a whole bunch of things this morning, including
the turnout for the by election, and what was interesting
I guess yesterday out of Winston Peters as he lined
up along with david'son Anymore and said, we've got to
get out of Paris. So two of the three parties

(29:04):
in the current government are saying we've got to get
out of Paris now. That may not come to pass
because what Peter says at this particular point in time
means nothing. They're a smallish party and you know you
don't automatically get your policies through. But when you got
two of the three parties in government both saying the
same thing, there's a building mood. And we talked about
that on the program last week. Whether you go to America,

(29:26):
you go to the Tories in Britain, there is a
building mood globally to get out of Paris. Simply not
that we don't want to save the climate, but simply
it does not and is not working. So something to
watch for the future. Winston Peter's directly after the news
you're at News Talk said.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
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Speaker 4 (29:50):
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Speaker 2 (29:51):
Seven past seven of the Pea is the election campaign
of twenty six is already begun. They gathered in Palms
to the North over the weekend from New Zealand. First
rev up Stewart Nash turned up as a possible for
few you candidate and we got some key we Saber
policy as well. Leader Winston Peter's with us. Pretty good
morning to you. Good morning this Paris accord between you
and ACT? Are you placing already pressure on national to
do something about it?

Speaker 19 (30:12):
It's not between us and Actor. I said a long
time ago that the developments of the huge emissions from
four countries caused us to the question, liners, are we
expected to deliver on our part of the bargain when
they are not delivering on theirs. The ACT party has
followed that, but it's not agreement to us an ACT.
We've never spoken about it.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
No, But between the two of you, you've got three
parties in coalition running the country at the moment. Two
of them don't want to be part of Paris, So
do you lean.

Speaker 19 (30:37):
On national Well, no, look, I'm not saying what that
act Party is saying in that sense. What we're saying
is we have to go and ask the rest of
them what on earth they think is going on in
terms of the deal that they signed up to at
the time and how it can it possibly be delivered
when four countries have sixty percent of the emissions.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
The detail on Kiwi saber. When do we get it?

Speaker 19 (31:03):
Oh, look, we're developing that because what's happened here is
you've got thousands and thousands of people, hundred thousands have
signed up, but they're not contributing, they're not saving, and
so it's not as deeply easy as some of the
journalist's thought just to work out what's going on. But
we're going to make a compulsory and we're going to
assure the spaced at a level which you'll see comprehensively
is followed overseas. We need to turn this into a

(31:25):
super super saving fund and a superinvestment fund at the
same time, but not in the control of politicians.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
When you talked about yesterday tax cuts, that's literally a
tax cut for a person who's contributing to Kiwi saber
or is it? Is it a rebate or how it
it worked?

Speaker 19 (31:41):
That's a tax cut for the person contributing to key
wesaver and also for the employer.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right, so I would pay I would pay less tax
if I'm contributing to kiwisaber? Exactly are you still with us?

Speaker 17 (31:54):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (31:54):
I said exactly, Yes.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay, the differentiation? What's your assessment at this particular point
of campaign. Because I listened to your speech yesterday and
I heard what you said about a variety of different things,
I'm thinking to myself, how do you differentiate yourself as
a party in a campaign where you're not going to
go with labor so you're sort of lining up to
go with National maybe Act again, and you've got to

(32:18):
look different. How does that work?

Speaker 19 (32:21):
Because we're compellingly different. We're not out there ideological extremists
putting out something that's failed for the last forty years
or something in the case of the left hand side,
which failed a long time ago from the day it started,
and pulling us misery around the world called Marxism. We're
in the middle. We're pragmatic, we don't deny that, and
we talk about common sense solutions. And around the world

(32:42):
and around these hill at the moment, that's what people
are asking for. Look, just give you an example, Dad,
Provincial airlines were starting to close down in critical parts
like Blake Barrier Island and elsewhere Pokapane for example, and
we've stepped in and found two two me to say,
now this is vital to keep it going. We've got
to keep that infrastructure going because as they recover and
go forward, then they will be essentially part of the

(33:05):
national good, national network, and they're now tied into anyw Zealand.
That crisis forced us to do the right thing and
ensure that we keep the infrastructure going. We can't afford
to have factory stones because of lack of energy. That's
what his zil First is saying. We're talking about practical solutions,
not blind ideology that somedow somehow says, oh well they
stick to this and it all come right. Well we've
waited forty five us for to come right. It has

(33:27):
come right.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Bottom lines are any of the policies? Who will any
of the policies be bottom lines? During the campaign.

Speaker 19 (33:34):
I don't like that expression, Mike, because a meansa not
actually there to negotiator there to be adamant and rigid
about things. But if there are things that we are
never going to sell ourselves out for, yes there are,
but we don't call them bottom lines. We just hope
the rest have got enough common sense of negotiating table
to understand them.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, appreciate you time very much when Stanmpeter's and
New Zealand first leader could have been the start of
the campaign right there, eleven minutes past seven.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Pasking what's in a job?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, perem rem a prison houses the country's most notorious criminals.
Of course, the theory is if you slap some colorful
designs and shapes on the walls, you'll lift the quote
oppressive surroundings. Now, this apparently all came out of concerns
from the Chief on Woodsman's report last December about cruel
and humane and degrading conditions. Lee marsh is Corrections Custodial
Services Commissioner and is with us morning.

Speaker 20 (34:19):
Oh, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
So it's one thing to have a report, I guess
it's another thing to go after might attend to buy
a hol ot of buckets of ten litre paint? How
does this thing unfold?

Speaker 18 (34:27):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
From the report to this, how do we get here?

Speaker 20 (34:31):
Well, this is actually part of a much broader piece
of work, just one small part of it. We're looking
at a range of combination of both maintenance and improvements
to the safety and security of the whole environment. And
just being clear, this isn't isn't just around the prisoners.
Whilst we've had that feedback around the oppressive nature of
a very stark and basic scheme within that environment, we've

(34:52):
also got to appreciate that our staff and a lot
of other workers work in that environment too, so we
want to make that as as good and conducive for
them as possible.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Who designs what it looks like?

Speaker 20 (35:03):
Well, the color schemes and the designs are pulled together
by an in house design team as part of others saying,
much broader piece of work. We've had a range of
people at work in that environment and visit that environment,
input into that, and that's where we've come up with
what is, quite frankly, a very basic geometric design that
enables us to maintain it and keep it keep it

(35:24):
in a good state for longer.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Is it design that's the key or the color?

Speaker 20 (35:29):
I think there's a combination of both. So what to
be really clear here, when we talk about murials, we're
not talking about pictures of people and landscapes. We're talking
about a range of colors that kind of more natural colors,
sort of hues of blues and greens. And we're talking
about geometric triangles that, to be frank to look a
little bit like trees. But we keep them nice and

(35:51):
simple because they're all done with stencils. And inevitably this
is a prison unit and things will get damaged and
graffited and we can just pop in with the spensil
and repainted.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
What do the staff say? Are they bullish on this?
Are they excited about it? Or is it like, oh yeah,
good luck now.

Speaker 20 (36:06):
I think the staff are really supportive of making our
environment a lot better for them to work in. It's
just to be clear. I mean that a lot of
the reports so far I've talked just about the prisoner
selling yard. It's far greater than that. It's all of
the entry ways, the four years, the staff areas, the
external yards, the visits area, of the interviews. Essentially, it's
quite if you can imagine a large commercial building and

(36:26):
it's everything in there, of all the areas that our
stuff are working. So they're very supportive of this.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You got any kping our eyes out of this? I mean,
is there any thing material that will ever come out
of this? Well, people commit fewer murders, they'll be less
better than then the prison. Someone will skip down the
corridor because they're so thrilled to work. Now, I mean,
does anything.

Speaker 20 (36:43):
Actually happen now, Well, we know there's a lot of
research that suggests that moving away from very stark and plain,
great environments does help reduce tension and monotony. Well, God,
appreciate is the men that are in this environment are
going to be in here for a long time, and
they are very dangerous individuals, and one of the things
we were focused on is how we can get them

(37:04):
engaged and not bored, because things like that help them
engage in rehab rehab, but also reduce the tension and
make it safer for us staff.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
All right, appreciate it. Leley Marsh who's with the corrections.
It's fourteen past seven.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
This is a news talk saied B developing story.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So from Richard Chambers, the Police Commissioner. Police are responding
to a serious incident in the Western Way Cato this morning.
The Commissioner said police will provide a full update later
this morning. The acting Deputy Commissioner, Jill Roger, she's traveling
with the why Catto as we speak. We'll speak with
the media later. Chambers is in Melbourne. He's been attending
the funeral of those police members. That's the that's the
hunt and Victoria at the moment. Police say he will

(37:43):
return later on today. You can probably join a couple
of dots there to see where the story is going today.
Fifteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
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Speaker 2 (37:56):
EDB Prime Minister and for a chap fifteen minutes away
eighteen minutes past seven to the rugby match with the Ages.
Really wasn't it delivered on Saturday night under enormous pressure?
That wasn't Part two about charge with the lost in
Argentine of the All Blacks one won well and kept
the much talked about record of Eden Park. Scott Robinson's
with a Scott Morning.

Speaker 15 (38:14):
Yeah, morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
You're a bit edgy in the box. There several times
were you were you struggling to contain yourself?

Speaker 15 (38:23):
I was living in every play just like the players.
It was one of those games. I felt like I
was wasted sitting Yeah you just oh do you just
the occasion in the atmosphere you could feel it in
the warm up? Or was pree special? Wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I reckon? What did you say at the end of
the game to them?

Speaker 15 (38:43):
Just proud of the efforts in the care I think
the country showed how much it choose you need to
as as a team. And when you're in a fight,
like a title fight like that, when you have one
versus too, it can come down to any moments and
just how they want and moments. And it was right
to the end, from the first pay to the last

(39:04):
play the game was on. So it was just said
they stayed in it and we get to do it
all to keep this week.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, how banged up are you? And when do you
get back into full training and all that stuff for
this week?

Speaker 15 (39:16):
Yeah, look the docs on overtime. It's just because it's
one of those games, the brutality of it and the
amount of like our contact low was so high, probably
the highest it's ever been recorded. You know GPS in
the back of there between the shoulder base and poison.
So the Livis Boards. They got a few records. So look,

(39:39):
well we're review, we're recover and then the proper training
starts tomorrow. It is just going to give you self
body sort of forty eight seventy two hours.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
To come right those new guys, did you have to
talk to them and go this this, this is going
to be something a bit different than what you might
have expected.

Speaker 15 (39:56):
Ah, Look, you used to know. The big thing is
you just want to trust them, just their instincts and
the ability. You know, when you when you play an
instinct you move forward. You go forward, and see when
you go forward, and you're going to win contacts. And
someone like a summer park as a prime example. He
goes out there, a big body and he loves it

(40:18):
physically side of it. So just keep as simple as
you possibly can and enjoy it as much as you can.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, exactly. It reminded me of the good old days
in the sense that there used to be a time
in this country where the whole week was semi dominated
by the possibility of the coming Saturday. We didn't know
what which you know what I mean. It was just
like it used to be.

Speaker 15 (40:37):
Yeah, I felt like that, And there's so many stories
and narratives and you know the occasions and obviously the
record and you know after Argentina had like all those
things just added to it and a hell of a
storyline and that that played out and the packed house.
You know, it was a special ocasion to be a
part of. And like I said, you know this week,

(41:00):
it's good if you've done that, but you're going to
go and do it again. About how do you relive dead?
And how do you start the excimony game?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Well, that's exactly. Are you expecting something different from them
this week? This weekend?

Speaker 15 (41:12):
The majority of it will be the same, mic. I
think they won't go from too far from the DNA,
but they'll just to be as hungry. You know, one
thing about it, Bosi is as teams are so mentally
and physically tough. Uh, they're great competitors. So we expect
all that and a little bit a little bit of
innovation is that if we saw on the weekend as well,
something expect the unexpected.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, and it shuts the critics up. For while Scott.

Speaker 12 (41:37):
Does it.

Speaker 15 (41:40):
Look on pretty good man and turned the noise off way.
I just as the team get the best out of
them and for that you're going to get best out
of myself and and that's like skip the environment. So
they the boys love what they're doing. You need and
they got when when you see that for what it
means to us on the weekend, help help how we're
willing to fight for everything.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
So this role, well, there was a joy to watch.
Good catch up, preshout it go well this weekend. Scott
robertson All Blacks Coach seven two.

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Ask Mike, did that interview about interior design improvements in

(43:21):
our top security prison really just happy?

Speaker 15 (43:23):
Yes it did.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I did have a similar sort of thought, but some
real place here.

Speaker 20 (43:27):
When we talk about murials, we're not talking about pictures
of people and landscapes.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
The old muriels. Now, Mike, we saw passion back in
the game Saturday Night, and that's the magic, isn't it.
I Mean what you saw of the all blacks on
at Eden Park, that the absolute desperation that were so
evident to win. How do you conjure that up each
and every week? Mike, can you please interview the acchoir
director from the anthems on Saturday night? Well, I don't

(43:52):
think we need to interview them. I mean they sang.
They sang extremely well, and they were very good versions
of the And I don't know why we don't do that,
to be frank every time, because in going individuals singers,
you take the risk that some are brilliant others are not. Mike,
that was the best and most passionate national anthem I've
ever ever heard of, Eden Park. I seem to agree.
I haven't got time to do it now, but I
will in the next half hour. Jenae tips Traney did

(44:14):
some brilliant work on treasury. This or slash quiggly thing
continues to unfold in an increasingly embarrassing, if not scandalous way.
And this is specifically in reference to the Reserve Bank
going to the government for amounts of money to run
their operation that defy belief. But anyway, let me come
back to that after the Prime Minister, who is next?

(44:35):
After the news? You're a news talk said?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the Mic asking
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Speaker 2 (44:52):
Minutes away from another morning. Prime Minister Christoph Luxton joints
is spring. Good morning to you want you like it
to be?

Speaker 9 (44:57):
O ya.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
You were at the rugby and that was where Scott
Robert no one before, but that that was the thing,
wasn't it was?

Speaker 12 (45:02):
It was a moment good, proper test match, wasn't it?
And I had the great privilege of meeting the all
blacks and their change rooms afterwards, and man, some of
them have been what do you say to them in
that because they you know, they look at you. Some
will love you, some will hate you.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
So you can confirm that all all blacks no, love you, No,
but they're all very good.

Speaker 12 (45:21):
I mean it's actually just you just you know, I'm
always very interested in what do they do with their process, right,
I mean, like they're going into ice spars and they're
going onto two spas after treatments, and you know, they're
big guys and they do a lot of conditioning, a
lot of you know, and they all say, you know,
they feel like they've been in a car crash the
day after.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah, it was a tough game. Did you raise your
niggle with them? No, I didn't. What's your name?

Speaker 11 (45:43):
My god?

Speaker 12 (45:44):
You're doing this if I can't believe it?

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Well, I mean you were sitting there watching the All
black game.

Speaker 12 (45:49):
Okay, I've got to tell everyone now because you're just
going to embarrass me in front of the country, as
you tend to do. And I basically got out of
my seat, twisted to go down onto the onto the
paddock and then into the change rooms. And as I
came out of the seat, twisted and tweak my knee.
A little bit done your hair, But you feel a
real when you're sharp in the all black change room.
And these guys have been smashed up and done a

(46:10):
lot of stuff, and I'm just sort of trying to
pretend not to hobble them.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Did you Limpen?

Speaker 12 (46:15):
No, No, I didn't. I really really toughened up, and
I really, well, they.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Test will be. You're doing a postcab meeting preciate day,
so that it's quite a walk. It's quite a walk,
hasn't it down the stairs? It could be an old
managering the by election. The fact that nobody turned out
has got to be of great concern to us all,
doesn't it.

Speaker 12 (46:38):
Well, it surprised me completely because I thought Labour would
trounce to Party Mara and they got killed, you know,
two to one, and basically they got three thousand votes
out of what sixty five thousand potential voters in that seat.
So surprised me a bit. I thought, maybe, you know,
I think, you know, at the end of the day,
they haven't had any policies. They've just been criticizing, but
haven't actually come forward with any policies or ideas. And

(46:59):
I felt sorry Penny henri Ay because you know, Hopkins
wasn't even in the party on Saturday night. They're supporting
his team.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
No, but but regardless, it was a real shock. Actually,
do we have a participation issue in this guy? I mean,
you can dismiss it to an extent it was a
by election, but you can't dismiss twenty percent.

Speaker 12 (47:14):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what why that was
such a low turnout and that Marie electric because as
I said, I think it's got probably sixty five thousand
potential voters. It'll be similar to the general electorate's sort
of composition of voting. And with all that machinery and
you know, the two parties that were involved in that,
you would have thought they would have activated you know,
that vote out and got it, got it turning out.

(47:35):
It's just you know, you noticed in local government, you
know we've had probably what thirty five forty percent voter turnout.
As I keep saying, democksty is pretty precious thing, and
if you don't show up to sort of vote for it,
you can't get what you've deserved.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Keyan Clark in China last week, you are the ex
Prime minister and you were invited to a similar thing.
Would you go?

Speaker 12 (47:54):
No, Personally, I wouldn't know. I think why, Well, I
think once I leave politics, you know i'll be I'm
not in politics, so yeah, there's no need for me
to be involved in that.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Would it be my personal call? Did the China thing
have anything or would the China thing have anything to
do with it? I thought they I thought they both
made a mistake. They shouldn't have been there.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (48:09):
Look, I mean I think those are decisions for them
to make. I mean, from our point of view, we
had representation from our embassy there, as you would expect
as to the Australians. But you know, I think if
I'd been invited, I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Gone Okay, Paris. Did you watch Peter speech yesterday? I did, Actually, yeah,
I read it. It's moderately entertaining. It went for over
an hour. He wants out of Paris, Sema wants out
of Paris. Sixty six percent of the government want out
of Paris.

Speaker 12 (48:37):
How do you handle that, well, I mean the government,
the coalition government today. I mean they might have different
party positions going forward, let's see where they get to.
But you know, the coalition government has made the correct
assessment that actually, if you want to come out of
Paris and join Libya, Yemen and Iran and now recently
the US is the only four countries that are not
part of it. That is a massive punishment to our

(48:59):
farmers and it's going to make all New Zealand is
poorer because I can tell you what's going to happen
is that the countries that we compete with and the
large multinational countries that we sell our products to, particularly
think dairy, they're going to kick us off our shelves.
They'd like nothing more than that to happen. So we
ain't going to punish the farmers and we ain't going
to make New Zealand poorer.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
But equally if it wasn't for the farmers, because your
reference trade here and it's tied up in trade deals.
But as an exercise in saving the planet, it's not working.
I mean that's just a statement of fact, isn't it. Well,
I mean we are doing we are prioritizing.

Speaker 12 (49:30):
Economic growth in this country, and I've been really clear
about that.

Speaker 18 (49:33):
We can.

Speaker 12 (49:33):
If you look at farming, for example, our farming emissions
are coming down. That's because actually our farmers are doing
things like you know, the work at lic on breeding programs.
There's a whole bunch of technology, genuine technology and innovation.
It's making them more productive. So actually we want to
be able to you know that we should be able
to get more farming done in this country given the
land that we've got, and also be able to lower

(49:54):
emissions at the same time. And we've got a series
of really good pipeline of innovation now under what's called
this Agri zero project, stream of real stuff that makes
a big difference.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
So do you still believe in twenty fifty you still
believe in that zero twenty.

Speaker 12 (50:09):
If you look at our if you look at our
plans at this point, you know, the latest plan suggested
we might even do it six years early, you know.
I mean, like, so, what people haven't understood is the
agriculture part of it. You know, they have really been
adopting technology, innovation, and actually emissions have been coming down
at a great rate. You know, it won't be difficult
for agriculture to deal with it. But you know, I'm

(50:29):
all I'm just saying is yeah, it's an you know,
if you really want to pull it out, I'm telling
you right now, it'll be a trade barrier immediately.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Okay. The a WUS it wasn't the time last week,
but it was. It was tomorrow last week. The a
WUS thing that turned into a thing. Is the media
against you?

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
That story was? That story turned weird for reasons I
couldn't get my head around, apart from the fact that
they don't like you and somehow want to hobble you.

Speaker 12 (50:54):
Well, I think the point I was, Yeah, I mean
that's I don't I don't comment on it because I
just think it's a waste of time. You know, my
job is to respect of what the media say or think.
My job is to crack on and actually just find
a way to win and to find a way to
make sure we get the country sorted. So yeah, I
mean I had the same reaction. I just looked at
that and I thought, I read the transcript of what
you and I talked about, and then I saw all

(51:14):
the headlines. I saw all the question that came after
all that. I thought, Jeep, as you know, that's you know,
we've misread something here. Because the bottom line was that
was just something that yeah, I'd said, it had been
flagged for a while.

Speaker 17 (51:24):
You know.

Speaker 12 (51:25):
The reality was today was the day that they were
launching that they were very excited. Was the biggest tech
conference we had in the country. It was a positive
story when a multinational wants to invest here, as it
was a positive story a couple of days later when
i Kia announced their opening date and I'd met with
the owners of my care in the Netherlands as well
to talk about Resource Management Act and things that we

(51:47):
can do to encourage them to do more. You've heard
Costco come out on the back of Nicolas stuff saying
they want to do stuff. So there's some there are
good things going on, you know, as you know, there's
some challenges for sure in Auckland, but actually you've got
to report also the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Do you worry that people there's a couple of op
eds over the weekend. Houghton did one on Friday in
The Herald, and you can dismiss Houghton for a while,
but then Damien Grant did one yesterday as well. Do
you worry between that sort of commentary and what we
saw by way of reaction to the AWS announcement that
I don't know what it is that you're in trouble.

Speaker 12 (52:21):
No, not at all. I mean I think you know,
there's nothing. I mean, I don't know Matthew and I
think I met him twice and at functions or something
passing through. And yeah, I don't think I've probably ever
had a good article from Mathew from the very beginning,
so I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (52:34):
Yeah, I only take advice from people that you know,
offense from people I take advice from, as I keep saying,
So for me, it's no problem. So I know why
I came to politics four years ago was because you
can sit on the sidelines or you actually get involved
in actually try and change the joints and actually get it,
realizing it's potential. So yeah, yeah, I can talk about media,
whether I get any fear treatment or not, but I
just think it's not particularly helpful, useful.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
What's the timeline? Simon Watts refused to come on this
program him last week because he was in Australia, yes,
doing the two plus given the formal minutes, So he
was an australiast his own leadership, and we wanted him
on what do we want on about five thirty? I
think we wanted him on Australian time, acceptable or not?

Speaker 12 (53:14):
Well, I try and get to you at one thirty
in the morning on in Europe, So I think if
I can do it, I think all my teams should
make the effort to do it well.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
So because Steven Joyce when he was on the program
never missed once and he was in China a number
of times, so he was at one or two in
the morning, You've been on one or two in the morning.
So the message needs to be sent to some ministers
that five thirty in the morning is not really that early.

Speaker 12 (53:35):
After all, I don't know his circumstances. There was genuinely
reason why.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I'm not sure what sort of circumstances you can have
at five thirty in the morning. That a problem at
four thirty every morning you're up at three, so exactly.
So I'm glad. I'm glad we got that sort of ad.
Do you worry about the door, about.

Speaker 12 (53:50):
The New Zealand Dillar about you of well, lack of Yeah,
A lot of it's about us getting getting our mojo
Backham and we've got to get those fundamentals moving in
the right direction. And obviously the low dollars helping us
with our exports. But as obviously you know, as a
worry on the import side of it.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
What do you think it should sit out? I don't
have a view on that.

Speaker 12 (54:11):
I mean, I'm sure, yeah, yeah, Should you have a
view on it?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
No?

Speaker 12 (54:15):
I think I think I've just got to focus on
getting the fundamentals right. If I can get as I said,
inflation and interest rates and growth and unemployment down, that's
really what I've got to deal with in the dollar
as in a market mechanism will sort itself out.

Speaker 18 (54:26):
Alright.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Good luck on the walk this afternoon.

Speaker 12 (54:29):
Thank you mate, Thank you for that making That'll be
the next exclusive from ZIB that will be on the
news by by the next two minutes.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Nice to see you. Thirteen minutes thirteen minutes away from a.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
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Speaker 4 (54:45):
It be.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Money talks, Mic, it's nothing to do with our climate,
sitting not to mention floored methodology around me saying it's
bluff and bravado. Get out of Paris, Mic. The Paris
Agreements a dog. It just needs to change, has become
a trade document, not a climate change policy, of which, well,
let me come back to that, Mike. We just need
to quietly quit Paris. I don't think that's possible somehow, Mike. So,
Paris is just the type of extortion scheme the reference

(55:08):
of you haven't followed it. It's directly tied into trade
deals these days. So in other words, because of our
miles and all of that sort of thing, and the
amount of stuff we put on a plane and how
far it goes, it is directly tied in with trade.
And we only want to or they only want to
trade with countries that are part of the climate change agreement.
So we're kind of stuck to a degree. But all

(55:29):
I'm flagging here, and you've seen it with David Seymore,
you've seen it now with Winston Peters. You've seen it
with Kimmi bad Not, You've seen it with Donald Trump,
and it's a growing trend globally. And it's not about
wanting to save the climate or not wanting to save
the climate. It's about doing something tangible that we can
all agree is working, will work, and can work, as

(55:50):
opposed to what it's fast becoming, which is something that
is largely a waste of time. So it's a debate
for the ages. Now speaking of I don't know the
media and the way they deal with luxon at the moment.
What about the media and David seymoa or come back
to this in a moment over the weekend, the digital
media and I'm talking about the heroll and I'm talking
about stuff we're dealing with, the situation with David Seymour

(56:13):
and his car and a video and if you didn't
see it, this was David Seymour undertaking as opposed to overtaking.
So I won't bore you witless with the rules of
the road. But nevertheless, let me come back with that
in the moment nine minutes away.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
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Speaker 2 (56:31):
Like, give up your obsession about ministers doing early morning interviews.
Why why would I? All I want is people to
get out of bed. If you want to run this country,
run it properly, work hard, do long hours, get stuff done,
be available to explain yourself. That's all I ask.

Speaker 10 (56:45):
I think they're just saying they would like just you
and without them. Oh sorry, they're what they mean.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
You see, I can fully understand that, right. So is
this news? So David Seymour allegedly speeding. Video shows David
Seymore speeding. The clue is in the bloke's commentary. So
if you missed the story, David Seymour in his act car.
If you've never seen David Seymour's act car, it says
pink with a painting of himself on the side. It's

(57:09):
as obvious as it can possibly be. So this guy's
not skulking around in some dark tinted windows special vehicle
that you wouldn't really know. It's Seymour. It's got Seymour
written on the side, it's got act written on the side,
it's got his photo on the side, and it's pink.
You can't miss him, guy says, had this guy riding
the tailpipe for a good whack on sh one. He

(57:32):
must have hit the snooze button a few too many
times this morning. I gave it a touch of the
jendle to gain a bit of distance from him, but
it wasn't enough. As soon as there was the slightest gap,
he shot up the inside undertook and started tailgating the
next in line. He must have been doing twenty over
the posted speed limit. People. Obviously this clown posted it
to redd it. Now here's the thing. There are clowns

(57:55):
all over the road and you see them every day.
People who give it a bit of jendle. There are
people who are clowns on social media. You're never going
to stop that. You can't regulate that.

Speaker 15 (58:05):
It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
What we can do if we just pause long enough
to think about it, especially in the media. Is wonder
perhaps even allowed to ourselves? Is this news is idiocy
posted on social media automatically news? And therefore do I
need to run it in my digital outlet if I

(58:27):
am staffer run the New Zealand Herald or whoever else
ran it? I don't know. Do I really need to
make that a thing? Because one of the problems the
media has in this country is they've got a credibility
issue with the wider public. And when you do that
sort of stuff and you make something inconsequential news just
because some moron put it on social media, the moment
you do that, you distance yourself yet again from the

(58:49):
wider public, because the wider public see this for what
it is. It's a dumb stitch up by some idiot
who gave it a bit of jandle and thought he
might like to jump on social media and make a
think about it. Let him be, and let social media
do their thing, and let's concentrate on more important things,
and maybe we can slowly but surely restore some of
the credibility that we've so badly lost in recent years.

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Speaker 11 (59:28):
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Speaker 9 (59:33):
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Speaker 11 (59:37):
My field goal for daily Cherry Evans is.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
The difference between the two sides. The Cloud's got it,
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Speaker 21 (59:47):
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Speaker 11 (59:54):
Take fourteen of the best for the blackst job done.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
And Jason Pine good morning, Good Mike, Jason, as good
as it gets. Surely what are we talking about?

Speaker 22 (01:00:21):
Mike, give us the clue.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Well, I'm thinking the rugby Jason.

Speaker 18 (01:00:27):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 22 (01:00:29):
It was a It was a terrific test match. It
was a magnificent battle, a lot of great layers to
a huge crowd. Arty's one hundredth but of rain to
make things a little bit more interesting to defend the fortress. Yeah,
it was a terrific occasion. Heaps of South African fans.
Uh yeah, not much really that you can complain about.

(01:00:52):
And the the undefeated streak at Eden Park continues.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, we spent out. Do you enjoy taking Andrew?

Speaker 21 (01:00:59):
I was fantastic.

Speaker 18 (01:00:59):
Mind.

Speaker 21 (01:01:00):
I mean I've been to a lot of test matches
at Eden Park over what nearly thirty years plus. I
don't think I've ever seen fans arrive so early. I
don't think I've ever seen so many away team jerseys
in the crowd or that amount of support for.

Speaker 11 (01:01:15):
The away team.

Speaker 21 (01:01:17):
And I thought, whoever came up with the idea to
have the schools choir door the anthems needs a massive
pat on the back. They were simply superb and this outstanding.
I mean that I was on the sideline watching the
anthems talk about spine tingling and then the Harker. The
light show where they dimmed the lights and put the

(01:01:38):
spotlights on the Harker and the anthem singers is a
great idea. Just it just had that real buzz to it.
When the All Blacks came out to warm up just
behind us, they could see the look in their eyes
if to say, this is our home turf, we are
not going to lose tonight, And that was evident on
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
It was you need to bottle that, Jason, because this
is the problem, isn't it. You know, how was it
you lose to Argentina, I get it away and all
that sort of stuff. But I mean they are capable
of clearly beating anybody and being the best side in
the world. It's just a matter of bottling that up
for the appropriate time, in the appropriate ground, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:02:13):
Yeah, consistency, isn't it. It's that it's that search for
consistency that all elite sports teams are really looking for.
And you're right and that the great thing about it
is that we get the opportunity now to see whether
the All Blacks can do that, because in what five
days from now they do it all again. It won't
be as big an occasion with everything that sav mentioned,
you know, in everything that was wrapped around this this

(01:02:37):
Eden Park thing the other night in Wellington, but it
can still be a great opportunity for Scott Robertson and
Cod to say, right, we are you know, good enough
to win back to back test matches against South Africa
put Argentina behind us. Just on Razor as well, Mike,
you know he had massive pressure on him last week,
you know, watching him in media sessions and and just
the way he was he was carrying himself. He was

(01:02:59):
under enormous pressure. You do not want to be the
coach who oversees the end of the unbeaten run at
Eden Park off the back of being the first coach
ever to lose a Test match in Argentina and I
saw him afterwards on the field on Saturday night and
it was relief and elation on his face, but mainly relief.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I think that's fantastic, you know, I watching that.

Speaker 21 (01:03:20):
Just on just on the just on the attitude, mic.
I think as we've as we've mentioned on the show
a thousand times, at that level, it's it's it's the
little mental motivational factors that can sometimes win new games.
There was obviously the Eden Park factor. Ardie saves one
hundredth can't be underestimated. The guys the players played for him.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
That's for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:03:38):
As well.

Speaker 21 (01:03:40):
I think the influence of Sir Wayne Smith during the
week can't be underestimated as well, bringing a calming influence
to everyone around him. But yeah, just another key challenge
is lifting again for Wellington and finding those little motivating
factors gain apart from playing for the All Blacks obviously
finding those little factors again lift again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yeah exactly now I said to raise it just last hour.
It's like it reminded me of the old days, Jason,
Like when you're a kid and New Zealand and rugby
was the thing because you didn't have as much to
do when life wasn't as complicated as it is now.
It had that about it, didn't it, Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:04:16):
I did?

Speaker 22 (01:04:17):
I mean I spent most of last week in Auckland,
and you know sometimes when there's a Test match in Auckland,
I mean there's so much going on in this city
that it can be swallowed up a little bit. But
everywhere you went from about Wednesday onwards and certainly on
the day and then around Eden Park Sava is right.
There were people arriving at sort of three in the
afternoon for a seven o'clock cack and so many South
African fans, great banter. They really interesting thing one of

(01:04:40):
them said to me on Saturday afternoon was we can
still play our best, or we can play our best
and still lose to the All Blacks. And I think
that's the beauty of this rivalry is that you can
be at the top of your game but you might
still lose. I'm not saying South Africa were They've got
some things to work on, but it was just a
brilliant occasion.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
What are you going to watch the Saturday?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Have you got a class here?

Speaker 21 (01:05:00):
I don't believe Gee, the NRL doesn't make it easy
for them, does it? The Warriors a home playoff, a
real home playoff. Surely they should have played it on
Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I would have thought so, and avoiding a.

Speaker 21 (01:05:13):
Clash with your Okay, different cities, but similar times. I
just can't work out why they would person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
In the NRL's point of view, what do you care
about rugby?

Speaker 21 (01:05:22):
We think focus Yeah, they don't care about rugby rugby union.
They want to focus on Sydney too, and yeah, yeah,
it's it's frustrating.

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Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Just an update from the police there responding to the
serious incident in my tomo. The incident relates to a
burglary in the early hours of Monthay morning. There was
a confrontation and a police officer was shot. They were
taking the hospital in a serious condition, but they were
speaking to colleagues at the suspect while shot by police
and has died. Another person has been taken into custody.

(01:06:04):
The White Termo Meir John Robinson's been quoted he's been
briefed by police on the incident. He would not elaborate
without giving too much away. It's reasonably, i would hope,
evident as to what we're dealing with here. Seventeen past eight.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Andrewseveled Jason Pine with us. So here are the numbers, Fellas,
eight hundred and sixty eight thousand. These won't be released
till late thirty, but I'm breaking the embargo just for
you guys. Eight hundred and sixty eight thousand watched it.
Another two hundred thousand they thought or reckon at the bars.
So you've got over a million people there, four hundred
and eighty thousand of those on streaming. So that's the
biggest audience for a all black South Africa game since

(01:06:50):
the World Cup of twenty three. So it is still
the sport to be reckoned with, which is good. So
bit of interest, yeh yeah, exactly. Back Jason to the Warriors.
Worse I mean, miserable way to win the season under
different circumstances, would be thrilled. You know, for the thirty
one years I followed the side most years to get
to the playoffs. You can't believe you luck so you're in.
But this year it's a disappointment and we play the

(01:07:11):
Panthers and you know, can we beat them?

Speaker 17 (01:07:13):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:07:13):
Will we.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Tough, real tough.

Speaker 22 (01:07:17):
And you're right, Mike. I mean if you'd said at
the start of the season, I think I said this
a couple of weeks ago, said to Warriors fans, will
finished sixth, They would have taken that in a heartbeat,
absolute heartbeat. But given the way they were playing in
the middle part of the season, just before the injuries,
when Luke Metcalf got injured, you know, and this was
a top four side for a long time. And now
we're looking at a situation where maybe the season's only
elongated by one week. Because the Panthers, as we know what,

(01:07:40):
full time defending champions. They might not be the force
they have been in recent years, but they're still a
tough proposition. And the Warriors kind of limp into the
playoffs off the back of two straight defeats to teams
who aren't even in the top so look yeah, but
on the flip side, you say, right, you clean the slate.
It's a new season of sorts, a short season. You've

(01:08:00):
got nothing to lose, petition now, nothing to lose.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I'd go healthy that you got the problem.

Speaker 21 (01:08:06):
The problem is you have nothing to lose. Yeah, but
the problem is might the way they're playing, they could
probably be beaten by any of the other Skiven teams.
If they're playing anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
I wish I could play differently. But I think you're right.

Speaker 21 (01:08:16):
Well, they've got home advantage. Look, if they were at
full strength home advantage, you give them a chance. It
gets Penrith, but they're missing still obviously a couple of
key players here in the year and Keenrith. Look, as
we've discussed them, the mental motivation at this level, Penrith
will be wanting to win the title outside the top there, right,

(01:08:37):
they haven't done they haven't done that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Right, Say the Panthers beat us and then they go
on and win the grietition. Right, that's that's that's the
greatest premiership victory in the history of rugby league, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:08:47):
Yeah, probably well close, yeah, yeah, I'll give us a chance.

Speaker 10 (01:08:52):
I'll give us a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Look of course, well, I mean they'll they'll have some
players on the field and they'll be a kickoff.

Speaker 22 (01:08:57):
So you know, Jackson forward back rock was such a
James z rock o'berry go off again. Man, he's a
terrible luck. But yeah, Jackson fod back, that's a plus.
Who knows, big crowd obviously and coming. Shame about the
class with the all blacks, but they'll still Phillip go
media on Saturday and who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Did you see the ren Philly shields sef what I mean?

Speaker 21 (01:09:16):
Jeez, I saw little snippets of it my year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
What you were, well, they sort of it's a highlights game.
It just went ding ding every time he's look ding
more points points points. This is a I reckon. This
is another of these eras coming, isn't it? Because if
you look at the latter Canterbury are very good.

Speaker 21 (01:09:32):
Yep, they won it for so many years around the
last couple of season has been a bit wobbly and
now now is it Tasaman on Sunday?

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Yes, I don't care, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
I will win.

Speaker 22 (01:09:43):
Fair call.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
What's the matter?

Speaker 11 (01:09:45):
Hey?

Speaker 22 (01:09:46):
Black black Ferns, Mike black Ferns, forty nil this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Are you excited honestly, Jason, are you honestly exciting by
thrashing after thrashing after thrashing after thrashing. I mean, what
a one sided competition?

Speaker 22 (01:09:58):
Well you're the one this morning. I'm more interested in
because Ireland have beaten us two of the last three times,
and to put forty on them and not concede. I
think it speaks of a team that's some pretty good
neck And I watched the highlights this morning. Look, it's
all setting itself up for a final against England, South
Africa and the quarters probably Canada and the Semis and
then England in the final. I think hopefully it rams up.
It's just so difficult to watch at one thirty in

(01:10:18):
the morning, isn't it. What terrible time for us over here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Sooner and El correct things.

Speaker 21 (01:10:23):
Mike is red Bull back?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
No, no they're not. But what the really good story
out of this? And if you haven't seen the game,
well they might be. He might be Red Bull aren't back?
I mean verstappens the thing. It's not the red Bull.
They swapped McLaren swapped Norris and Pastree for no other
reason than Norris had a bad pit stop, and so
they said to be Astre, swap back places. Pastre quite

(01:10:47):
rightly goes why and they said, well, we had a
bad pit stop and so we need him to come
second so that we can close up the gap in
the race. I mean, that's just that's rigging the sport,
isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:10:56):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:10:58):
And the other question for you is the most over
rated sports franchise in the world, your team, the Dallas Cowboys.
Are they going to suck again?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah? They are. They do suck. They No one sucks
more consistently than the Devils Cowboys. I watched that game.
Here's the problem with the YouTube. I watched the other
YouTube game, which was the Chiefs and the Chargers charges
one in Brazil. So that was a boilover. But more importantly,
these people who are buying these games, they've got no
talent in terms of commentary, because all the commentary talent
is you know, it's like you, Jason, It's like you know.

(01:11:26):
TV three gets a bit of rugby and they need
the top man. It's you, and you're tied up, You're
in contract. Pardon so they hire some I'm sorry, Sam,
but you know we'd come to you eventually. But what
I'm saying is what you need to do.

Speaker 21 (01:11:38):
What you need to do is that nine oh one Yes,
run down to your Maserati, get in it, race home,
click on TV and Z Plus and there's game z
for you on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
That games galore mate games go hey quickly. Oh no,
I don't have time. I'll have to raise it after break.
Nice to see you guys.

Speaker 11 (01:11:54):
I'll have to. I'll have to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
I'll have to offer a commentary on my own comment
that should be exciting. Andrew Sevil Jason fin eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
The Mike Hosking, Greg Best, Where's Rainthrowver News Togs, dead
Beat A.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Twenty five of news talks. That'd be what I was
going to mention the lads, but don't have time. By
the way, as speaking of the NFL, Rogers who started
Aaron started with the Steelers this morning beat the Jets
and he used to play for the Jets, so there
was a thing, you know, a little free song. Anyway,
they won, so that's exciting. Michael Checker is lying or
being lined up for the Newcastle League side as a coach.

(01:12:27):
Is that weird? Can you go from just answer me?
Name me somebody high profile who's coached in rugby at
the highest level of the sport and has switched to
another code and been successful at that. Who's done that?
I can't think of anybody. Can you think of anybody
who's done that. No one's done that. Anyway, he's been
lined up for Newcastle as their as their new coach.

(01:12:51):
Strange business. Aaron Patterson gets sentenced today in Victoria. There
was one I was reading over the weekend. I can't
remember the exact sad but I think there's only one
woman in Australian history who's been sentenced to jail with
no possibility of parole, the suggestion being it could happen
again today, so she'll get sentenced. We'll go to Steve Price.

(01:13:12):
And speaking of Steve, he will be I don't know
if he's up early enough to watch the f one.
But the McLaren thing with Piastre and Norris, that's stacking
the game. And the reason they put Norris back in
front of pstre is because Norris had the bad pitch stop.
But they want to close the gap in the championship
race and I would have thought Pastre he must be
absolutely ropable about that. But anyway, Steve price will be

(01:13:36):
able to come on Shelton and goes saying, I'm just
saying to stitch up. The whole thing's to stitch up.
And he's right, he said at first.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
News, opinion and everything in between.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
The Mike Hosking break best with Bailey's real estate covering
all your real estate need news tog dead be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Someone says and Andy Farrell coaches Ireland and rugby but
played rugby league. That's not what I'm asking. I'm talking
about a coach in rugby league and a coach in
the Union. A lot of you said Allan Jones and
Wayne Bennett's your other one, primarily rugby league, but also
coach the England Rugby Union siders defense coach. That's not
the same either. I'm talking about head coach to head coach,

(01:14:12):
So I think I'm right. Where did Jones go in league?
I can't remember where he was in league? Was that
the rabbit Oz for a period of time, I can't remember.

Speaker 10 (01:14:21):
I mean he coached everybody how to do talk radio
for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
That is true. But also the other one is for
all of you who said Ted Lasso, that's not real.
Twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 16 (01:14:31):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Steve Price as well, Stephen, A very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (01:14:40):
Balmain Tigers is where.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
He was what he was to the Belmain Tigers. That's right.
But you can't think of anyone off the top of
your head. I'm talking about Michael Checker is allegedly lined
up for one of the league jobs. And so I
was just trying to think of a coach at the
highest level, head coach in union and in the league
and outside of Jones, I can't think of anybody.

Speaker 18 (01:14:58):
Allen would be the one be exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
The level of interest obviously in the trial was enormous,
same level of interest today in the sentencing.

Speaker 18 (01:15:07):
Yeah, Aaron Patterson we talk of of course, she's fifty
years old. She has been found guilty of murdering Don Patterson,
Gail Patterson, Heather Wilkinson and tempting to murder pastor Ian Wilkinson.
The reason I raise that is we get lost in
all of this stuff, but she cooked up beef Wellington,
used deathcat mushrooms in the recipe, and those three people

(01:15:29):
dead and the survivor is still around now. Her sentencing
will be at eleven thirty your time, and in a
rare breakward tradition, it'll be televised live in Australia. There's
a TV camera in the court. It will be completely
focused on the Supreme Court justice and not anybody else,
including you. Will not see the face. I don't believe

(01:15:51):
Aaron Pattison. Now this case has huge interest. If she
is sentenced to as can happen in Victoria life without parole,
she would become only the second woman to be sentenced
in that way in Australia. Now, I can't even tell
you what the other woman did because of the time

(01:16:13):
of day were speaking. But she was an avataur worker.
Catherine Knight stabbed at in fact her husband John Price
thirty seven times. I won't give you any more detail.
She was handed a non parole period. Now Patterson could
get this non parole period of more than thirty two years,
she'd become the longest sentence of a female killer in Victoria.

(01:16:35):
That's currently a Chinese woman who is in jail also
for murdering her former lover's wife. So we'll see what
happens at a nine thirty out time eleventh thirty real time,
but most people would expect she gets life without parole.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
And then we come to the youth crime thing. So
we've got the lives now taken up a twelve and
fifteen year old. For goodness sake, tell you you're right,
Mike Bush has got his work cut out from isn't he?

Speaker 18 (01:16:58):
Has he? Ever, they were on their way home. There's
two boys from an African family in the western suburbs
of Melbourne. They played basketball at a local stadium, took
a bus two stops and jumped off and they were
simply walking home and they were set upon by a
group gang of eight armed with machetes. Now, the machete law,

(01:17:19):
of course, came in on September one. You and I
might have talked about that it's going to do nothing
to stop this sort of crime. I mean, who thinks
that any of that eight group who attacked these two
boys and killed them are going to turn up down
at the local police station and give them a machete.
They're not going to do that. And the worst thing
about this case is that it appears that the two

(01:17:40):
boys twelve and fifteen, were mistaken identity, that they weren't
in fact part of a gang. They were simply walking
home from basketball. I do know with some interest that
the police have now broken ranks with the government. You
and I've been waiting for this to happen for a
long time. They wheeled out, probably at the behest of
your former New Zealand Police commissioner. They willed out a

(01:18:04):
police officer yesterday, Detective Inspector Graham Banks. He said, look,
this is a significant issue we've got in the community.
The police's position has always been there needs to be
strong to terrant the balance. Whether the balance is right
is a matter for community in the courts. But I
stand here before you. I think the penalties are not
in balance with what the community expectations are or mine

(01:18:28):
tough copper getting tougher.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Good not too soon either. Now, then we come to Dizzy,
Who's He's obviously getting a lot of help, isn't he.

Speaker 18 (01:18:37):
You would think so, Desi Freeman. Of course, they announced
at the weekend that there would be a million dollar
reward for any information that leads to the arrest of
Daisi Freeman. Now, Freeman's been on the run for two weeks.
As you said, we probably all presume that he is
getting some sort of help his son spoke out yesterday.
He said his dad was a bit like Rambow and

(01:19:00):
he could go for weeks with quote without food. His
name is CoA. Freeman passed on his condolences to the
slain police. That doesn't help too many people, he said,
on behalf of myself and that family. Our hearts go
out to them. Freeman's obviously either hold up somewhere with
someone helping him, or he got quickly got out of
the area hidden in a vide can I mean, or

(01:19:22):
he's dead or you know, one of those things. But
when you think about it, Mike posting a million dollar bounty.
Police were then quickly had to have another media conference
and say, look, we do not want vigilantes out there looking.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
For it exactly.

Speaker 18 (01:19:36):
So they're obviously, you know, the money is so significant
that they're worried someone's going to go and try and
find you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
So that's what I got you. I've right over the weekend.
This is interesting. Elbow's got such a just is this
going to happen? Is all I want to know. He's
looking and it hasn't been since I think it was
Hawk's time. He's looking, expanding the number of MP's in
the House and that's obviously controversial, and they did a
little while back and that didn't quite get it. He's
got another where he's got such a majority, such power
that he's going to have another crack. Do you think

(01:20:03):
that's possible or not?

Speaker 18 (01:20:05):
Probably? I mean, given the population of Australia, how quickly
it's expanding, the number of migrants we're taking in in
any given year, there is probably two little too few
seats for the size of the population that we have,
particularly in Sydney, in Melbourne. He might have a crack
at it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Interesting. I probably owe you some sort of apology because
I mean, you call it very early on in the
F one. But I was watching it and they cocked
up Norris's pit stop and they said, Oscar, can you
let Norris pass please? That'll be nice if he could
come second and you could come third. And that's just
rigging the sport.

Speaker 18 (01:20:42):
It's cheating. And I told you they'd do this. Most
of those pit crews and the people that run Formula
one of British, as you know, Lando's British. They don't
want Australian to win. They'll do everything they can to
give points to Lando Norris and get him ahead of
Oscar Piastre, and there it played out. Why is it

(01:21:02):
Oscar's fault that some let can't put a tire on
properly with a ratchet gun? It's not and he should
not have had the letting pass.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
And what do you do with your Oscar? I mean
you're on the radio, You've got to sort of go.
I don't understand, but I mean, but behind the scenes
you must be ropable.

Speaker 11 (01:21:18):
Isn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:21:19):
I'd do what probably Max for Staffam would do, or
what Michael Schumacher would have done, and told them to
go nowhere.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Yeah, all right, mate, we'll see you Wednesday. Appreciate it.
By the way, it's an interesting thing. So they're looking
at we have is it thirty something thousand ish per
electorate in this country? Queensland is the Queensland seat of
Longman is the largest seat in austraight as one hundred
and forty three thousand, five hundred and twenty seven in
the electric for one MP for one hundred and forty
three thousand, five hundred and twenty seven people, more than

(01:21:48):
the third of the nation's electorates, and there's one hundred
and fifty of them have at least one hundred and
twenty thousand voters, in hence the desire to make the
parliament a bit bigger. Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Twelve away from nine. I referred to this earlier on
in the program. If you didn't read it over the weekend,
I think it might have even been Friday. Anyway, this ongoing,
I don't know if you want to call it a scandal,
but certainly just a shambles. As with quickly and or
running the Reserve Bank. This goes back and it's just
it's almost death by a thousand cuts, even though they're
all gone now. But I still maintain that all owesers

(01:22:27):
a public explanation given he got some money to walk away,
and he packed a mass of sad about the funding.
So anyway, it goes back to the funding. So the
bank goes to the government, goes, we need a billion
dollars please over a number of years, five years to
run our organization. The government comes back and goes, it's
not happening. Let's be realistic about this, at which point
all stamps his feed up and down and has a

(01:22:48):
big tanty and then the quickly the board chair has
to write to him say can you please not stamp
your feet up and down and pack a big sad
it's not very professional. Whole thing implodes and he gets
a check to go away. He's never been heard from anyway.
As part of their argument this is the latest development.
As part of their argument as to how they came
up with the numbers that they needed so desperately to

(01:23:08):
run their organization, genotips Trainee reveals that the Reserve Bank
added forty million dollars of underspends from previous years to
what it had planned to spend in twenty four to
twenty five. The bank had more funds because Grant Robertson
approved its request for funding top ups. I mean Grant
approved anything you wanted, so if you wanted some money,
you could have some money. So they had so much

(01:23:28):
money they literally didn't know what to do with it.
So they took the money they hadn't spent and they
added it into their budget and they said, so this
is how we get to the number we got to.
That's not the worst part noted it assumed funding would
need to be adjusted to account for an inflation rate.
This is the Reserve Bank. What's the reserve bank in
charge of inflation? It noted it assumed funding would need

(01:23:51):
to be adjusted to account for annual inflation, So it said, well,
you know, you've got to take into account anyal inflation.
Fair enough, what did they count annual inflation at three
point six percent? At which point somebody went, aren't you
the guys in charge of inflation? And what's the band?
You run inflation at zero to three? And yet you're
telling us it's a three point six and it's going

(01:24:12):
to be at three point six, and so you need
five years worth of funding in excess of the very
band you're in charge of. It said, a disproportionate number
of resources have been concentrated at the upper echelons of management.
This is treasury. The Reserve Bank was not sufficiently considering
reprioritization opportunities such as downsizing non legislative functions. They also

(01:24:34):
said the sum of the bank said it needed for
capital expenditure, including twenty two million dollars for ambiguous contingencies
slush fund. Now, hopefully fingers crossed, they've got this under
control now and all's gone and quickly's gone. But when
you're asking for money at a greater rate than the
very thing that you're in charge of, something seriously seriously wrong,

(01:24:59):
and you and I is always a paying for it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Nine to nine, The Make Asking Breakfast with Bailey's real
Estate news Dogs. They'd be White Lotus Europe apparently France
for the fourth season, the Grand Hotel de cap Farratt.
It's proximity to can people know it? It's got a
certain allure about it, So that's nice. I mean it's
not confirmed, but you know what these things are like.

(01:25:22):
I thought cosin NEWI was lacked a certain something to
be fair, didn't have the same asjuis de vive about it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
If you're interested in that. I watched the Paper, by
the way, I think on Friday we previewed the paper.
Was it Friday? It's no good, It's it's okay, It's
it's got that classic. The papers are kind of a
rehash of the Office. The original Office was good, The
American Office was fine, but the paper is a version
of that. It's I wouldn't be back. I watched the

(01:25:49):
first episode. I thought, nah, I regret. I don't know
we recommended it? Did we recommend it? We said it
was on. It's not the same as a recommendation. Make
up your own mind, but I'm saving you the time.
You there's a lot of buzz around. A lot of
people got excited about it, a lot of media got
excited about it, but what do they know? Six away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Trending Now we have the chemist warehouse. If praise it
would sale on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Now what was funny is Cadie showed me this on
the way home from the country yesterday. She goes, look
at this, this is funny. It's an interview and it was.
It's funnier without Have you beeped a dark Glynn? Oh good,
it's funnier without it. You okay, it's funni you're without
the beefing. But I almost drove off the road wedding
my pants. It's an interview with an Australian mining company
owner called Jerry Norton. Anyway, he's talking to a foreign

(01:26:33):
news crew who've asked him about how the electrification of
the world in what it does for business.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
Well, we have coal because we've got the biggest col
deposits in the world, but we're not allowed around the
start say the worlds is it really it's all right
to be idealistic, but you also have to be realistic.
And until the lights go out, the idiots that want
to be green on everything and not do mining, not
do col not do anything, they're going to have to
go back in years, can handles and live in tents

(01:27:01):
and then they'll no. You might working laugh, but it's true.
Are you understand what I'm talking about. I'm not talking bullshit,
I'm talking realities. If we don't get realistic, it's as
simple as that, we're not allowed to use uranium. We've
got the biggest uranium deposits in the world in Australia.
We're not allowed mine looking stuff. So it's all so
when half these things die, well the wild will be

(01:27:22):
a better place and then those of us that survive
will let get it going again. My next door neighbor
was talking to him. He's a lawyer, so he's not
an idiot. Well he is a WHI but that's another problem.
But he said, oh, you just put plugs along the highway.
So I said, but if you haven't got a source
from a power station, plugs on the highways aren't going
to do jack shit, right, do you understand me? The
people don't understand. They think the electricity comes out of

(01:27:44):
in space. But if you haven't got a charging system,
which is a steam coal burning power station, how the
can you charge your batteries?

Speaker 19 (01:27:51):
Do you understand that?

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
Well, there's a lot of the and that's the problem
with the world.

Speaker 10 (01:27:56):
So there's a couple of problems there. You've used up
your bleep allowance the rest.

Speaker 17 (01:28:00):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
It's brilliant though, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:28:03):
And also, so you were being shown this while you
were driving back while, so you're basically this is like
if somebody had seen you, if I had a David Seymour.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I probably undertook somebody at the same time.

Speaker 10 (01:28:15):
You were whitting your pants while driving, literally with my pens.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
While driving, and probably doing over the speed limit as well. Mike,
you did better than me. I gave the paper four minutes.
There you go, each to their own no way. Anyway,
we're on their way for the week back tomorrow morning
from six Happy.

Speaker 11 (01:28:31):
Days, Skin telling you where you can go

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
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