Full Show Podcast: 1 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Calling and welcome today. More health targets and they look heroic.
The Big Boy Race, the crackdown and whether it worked
out for the weekend, the fuel tax in the North
has ended. Got to fall out from the debate as
we stand by to see of Biden Bales got the
lads in the commentary box after rate, Richard Arnold and
Steve Price. They are part of the gang as well.
Asking welcome to the week seven past six. Here's a
question for you. Is Sean Johnson the Daniel Ricardo of

(00:34):
League Tomirie Martin steps in and each time he does
stuff happens. What an excellent game on Saturday night? I
probably always going to happen, I suppose, though I still
can't explain the Titans and that score. But I've lost
count over the years to how many times we found
ourselves lost for logic and explanation when it comes to
the Warriors. The Broncos didn't play badly, but they had
no time looked like they were going to win close
the gap. Yes they did, but win no. And if

(00:56):
you want to be a little bit blunted about the
final score, probably flatted. The worry is a little bit
we were better, but perhaps not that many points better.
Maybe the easiest thing to do is to suggest normal
services resumed. How about we do that so when we focus,
have it together, get off to a decent start. We
look the goods I reckon, we look like a side
that can compete and most likely beat any of the

(01:17):
teams in the competition. It'll be a very good test
this week with the Bulldogs to put that theory on
the line. We're at a point in the season where
we need to get back to stitching together a group
of winds. There are plenty of games left, but not
so many we can coast. But back to Johnson. You
can't deny Martin as good and he makes things happen.
He is bold at the line, he is fast, and
at the very least when Johnson isn't there, we lose nothing.

(01:38):
But there's a very fine line in this discussion because
too much of it's driven by the anti Johnson vibe
that doesn't take a lot of fact and history into account.
But if we needed to make a statement post the Titans.
We did, and if we needed to see that collapse
as a one off, we probably hopefully got that as well.
When it works, we're excellent. It's just the bit where
it goes off the rails that needs an explanation, some

(02:00):
sort of fixed. But wins are wins, and as long
as they keep coming, no reason to believe this isn't
are you.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
News of the world in ninety seconds now we're in.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
The midst of election favor French poles have closed, or
we'll get you the numbers shortly. In the States, Biden's
hold up at Camp David trying to work out what
to do next. Are the Dems rolling out everyone they
can to try and stem the blood or is that.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Same kind of a freak out?

Speaker 5 (02:25):
After my debate, and in fact, I might even say
that I had a more difficulty evening than the President did.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
And here I am right now having this conversation. One
debate is not a career.

Speaker 6 (02:35):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
In the UK, the Reform Party, you're having a missing weekends.
Three candidates stood down for racist remarks.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
I want to live in a country that is literally
color blind. I couldn't care less what color you are.
I'm not interested in what sexuality you have. Let's treat
everybody equally. That is my agenda.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
He's working hard on that. The tourists trying to explain
the reform popularity by blaming Russia.

Speaker 8 (02:56):
There is a threat in all elections, and indeed we
see it in this election from hostile state actors seeking
to influence the outcome of the election campaign. Russia is
a prime example of this.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Is CMP trying to explain the lack of popularity by
blaming schools.

Speaker 9 (03:12):
I think it's illustrative of the fact that when this
election was called, there was no thought given to the
fact that it would take place during the Scottish summer
school holidays labour.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Finally, trying not to get too excited too early.

Speaker 10 (03:23):
I'm assuming nothing about the result on Thursday. I think
libor has chance, has a good possibility this time, but
change will only come if people.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Vote for it.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Becksed outside Upstate New York, thirteen year olds been shot
there by the police.

Speaker 11 (03:40):
We called this press conference not just to explain and
be completely transparent, but to offer our condolences to the family,
the community and all they're involved.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
And finally, also in New York Nutrient and bars they're
seeing more establishments are increasing the age restriction to twenty
five and app and infect on Fridays and Saturdays summer, going
as high as thirty and up. The last couple of
years a quarter of new bars have had some form
of age restriction against the early twenties are the owners
say basically they're sick of young people coming in, having
a couple of quickies, throwing up in the bathroom and leaving.

(04:14):
The restaurant consulting firm JK consulting those says they don't
think it'll take on, you know, and that is news
to the world. In ninety seconds, Yeah, fresh off the
big turnout and that boded well for the national rally
and it's worked out well. So the first exit polls
are in. The polls closed eleven minutes ago. National rally
have got thirty four percent, the Popular Front twenty eight

(04:35):
point one, the ensemble that's Macron's party twenty so they're
a distant third. Other parties fifteen. Will work you through
the implications of that throughout the morning. Eleven past six.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
The Myke Costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Couple of upsides for Biden if you want to try
and find them. We raised the next day twenty seven million,
which was a good number for May The collective that's
his campaign, the DNC, the packs, all that sort of stuff,
raised eighty five million. May Trump came in with one
hundred and forty one. So he's still got money problems
and the other upside for Biden. There's not many people
watch the debate. Comparatively speaking, it was interesting fifty million,

(05:08):
just under fifty million, and you compare that to twenty
sixteen when Clinton went up against Trump, it was eighty
four million people, indicating of course that most had made
up their mind. Anyway, fifteen passed section shortly on that
big day for the Supreme Court tomorrow too, by the way,
that immunity decision was coming down. So we'll update you
there shortly from Devon Fund's management, Very Smith, Morning, Morning, Mike,

(05:29):
And speaking of the states, that inflation they got that
under control.

Speaker 12 (05:32):
Yes, pretty good. Actually, it's the core Personal consumption Expenses
price index, so you're looking at May here, so felt
it's lowest annual rate in one three is it was
good news. So two point six percent and that was
down from two point percent on April. So it's yeah,
it was the first time when if you came back
to March twenty twenty one where it was actually went
above the feeds two percent targets. Obviously the Fed's trying

(05:54):
to get inflation back to that level. Shows that this
is working. So that's good news as we try and
work out how many rate cuts are going to have
this year, if at all. So inflation is definitely coold.
Look at the headline level, it's around about two point
six percent, so prices for goods energy that's softened. Housing
prices are still quite strong, so that is one thing
that it's been a bit persistent. Dad also shown might

(06:16):
that Americans are being a bit more frugal even as
price pressures slodes. That's good news as well. So personal
income up half percent, but consumers spending increased only zero
point two percent. Interestingly, this is not because Americans are
any feeling any less confident. There's a separate serve out
from the University of Michigan show that consume sement actually
came high and expected in June and consumancy one year

(06:37):
inflation at three percent. That was down from three point
three percent of May. So it's all pretty good news.
So it's still probably a close call whether we get
one or two rate cuts this year, but market's now
pricing in a sixty percent chance to the first one
coming in September, and where the feed goes, a lot
of others follow maybe in their IRBNZ were cheers, we're
weak on Friday, but did They did come off a

(06:58):
big half s and people have ended it up nearly
fifth percent year to day. Na's deck up eighteen percent
of their IICRA has really got going okay.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So with Nike as at the high tops, are they
the problem?

Speaker 12 (07:08):
Yeah, there's there's a few problems of Nike. So it
was the biggest one day fall for the shares on
Fridays since they iPod in nineteen eighty, so they were
down twenty percent, so inn exacutory all right, they came
at one and a half billion, but a lot of
it's cost cutting. My revenues were down two percent on
a year ago. And what really unmoved the market was
the outlook. So they slashed sales predict projections. They said

(07:31):
it was going to be They're gonna be down ten
percent in the current coreter. They expect four year sales
growth to be mid single digits. They had expected positive
sales growth much higher there. It did come at a
bit of a shock also given that you know, we
know a lot of retails are struggling, but well branded
once have been doing pretty well, so things are certainly
slowing down. Actually one here, Mike, is it's their lifestyle.
This is trying to appeal to consumers. We maybe aren't

(07:53):
hitting the pavements or hitting the gym, but one appear
like that they're leading an active lifestyle. So that the
sales you were lower. You think your air force ones
and the light US and Europe converses cells there down
twenty percent almost in the quarter. Like you also said,
the environment softening in China, so investas didn't like that either.
I suppose one thing, Like you know, they've also been

(08:13):
accused of resting on their laurels and bit of a
lack of innovation. We've all were seeing that that Jordan movie.
A lot of us have, but the air Jordan's have
relied on that to keep the gravy train going and
the preps that's slowing down it. They're also looking at
this sort of strategy to sell directly through their website
rather than through footlocker and the lights. They're looking to
walk that back. They reckon, they get they can get
things back on the front foot. The new we've got

(08:35):
new styles coming also betting on the twenty the Paris
Olympics or which are coming out there, kidding out a
number of teams. They've also might unveilve thirteen AI generated sneakers.
I don't know, they might need to need to left
the game. But further, you've also got brands like Hoker
coming through as well. So yeah, tough times for the
Mega brand.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay, Then we come to China. What do we make
of the factory data?

Speaker 12 (08:55):
So you was sort of in contraction mode for the
second straight month in June forty nine point five, so
it's pretty close to expansion territory, but obviously officials want
to get it into the expansion mode. They're targeting five
percent growth this year. So new orders are down a bit,
export orders with flat in real estate, that continues to

(09:17):
be a bit of a headwind as well. I suppose
the other challenge from you with factory activity sort of
I suppose to a flat lining a little bits of
the trade tensions, I mean picking up You've got the
US and they're are slapping tariffs on Chinese exports, particularly evs,
and then you mentioned the debate. You know, if we
have Donald Trump getting back and that's not going to
be it's a bit of a wildcard for what happens
as well.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So I think the.

Speaker 12 (09:38):
Upshot of this data that MIC is that boldesteam is
maybe needed from China. Also comes ahead of the Third
Plan in which is in the middle of this month,
so they're setting economic direction for the next five to
ten years, so you'd expect they'll take this data into account.
Lay the numbers on me S and P five five
hundred had a great first six months of the year,
of course, but down point four percent on Friday five

(10:01):
four sixty isn't a nazdack down point seven percent, seventeen
seven three two down down point one percent, thirty nine
one one eight foot seed down point two percent in
the UK nick at point six percent, a six two
unded up point one percent n fifty. Of course we
were closed, so eleven seven one seven on Thursday gold
up three bucks two thousand, three hundred and thirty nine
US dollars an ounce aill down twenty cents eighty one

(10:22):
spot fifty four are bell currency markets ki we up
slightly against the US sixty point nine and Stirling forty
eight point two, down slightly against the eight dollar ninety
one point three. This week we've got minutes some last
meetings the RBA and the FED. Obviously we've got France
going at the moment, but maybe some more fireworks of
the UK general election on July the fourth year back home,

(10:43):
perhaps a bit more. Today we've got some business confidence
building permits and another GDT print.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh go go, well, appreciate it very much, Greg Smith,
Devon Funds Management. Let's getting tide out too, corracked it
over the weekend globally gone through a bigin So that's
the first time movie's done that since Barbie, which was
last year. No Disney animated feature from Pixar or any
of the animation studios has generated more than four hundred
and eighty million at the global box office since twenty nineteen,

(11:09):
so it's a massive hit. As of Sunday, which still
is in the state one point zero one four billion
dollars six twenty one, you're at Newstalk zenb the mic
Hosking Breakfast. The exit polls out of France, so it's
a busy week France. Now second round in France this
coming weekend and of course Thursday of the UK. But
the national rally holds on thirty four percent the popular front.

(11:32):
They've adjusted that up to twenty nine percent, the ensemble
they've got at the moment. Other parties have come in
at fifteen percent. This is all unfolding as we speak.
But the ensemble of this Macron's party is somewhere at
this point, they say, between twenty point five and twenty
three percent, So that will be material depending on how
it all unfolds, of course, but at this stage the
most bullish is of course Marilla penn.

Speaker 13 (11:54):
Er compatriots on the thirtieth of June twenty twenty four,
where is renewed on the seventh of July. Do mobilize
yourselves so the people in fact can win. Long live
the Republic, Long live France.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Now the interesting thing, Badilla, who's her pick to become
prime minister, will only take the job if they get
an outright majority. So the second round is this Sunday.
So what happens at this particular point is people have
to work out, well, I've seen these numbers, so who
do I coali behind if you vote for the ensemble,
do you go with the popular front? Have you voted
for the popular front? Do you go with the ensemble?

(12:34):
Other parties they go right, well, no one's got any
chance here at Also, I might as well go with
the national rally, et cetera. And that's why this coming
Sunday is so critically important. Unless they get an outright majority,
he's not taking the job. If he doesn't take the job,
you've basically got a stale mate six.

Speaker 14 (12:48):
Twenty five trending now with Chemist Well house Keeping Kiwi's
healthy all year round.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
Meantime.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Euros Round sixteen England Slovakia as we speak, Slovakia strike early,
fifth minute straight.

Speaker 9 (13:01):
That sends it in Slovakia, have the lead. Evan sranks again.
It's his third goal.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Of the euro.

Speaker 15 (13:12):
The upset is on.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
England came back though, or did they?

Speaker 15 (13:16):
Forward?

Speaker 9 (13:16):
Movement here from care and Tripia Tripier into the box,
great chance turn home by Phil Foden.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
We're all square, Hinger on the back in it only
in the second half.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, they weren't, because Vir said hello.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
It is being looked at in the var room.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Whether he was in front of the ball when the
ball was put across.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
He shouldn't really have been.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It's no goal.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
He should never have been in front of the It
was too it was too simple. He needed to stay
behind the ball. Ninety fifth minute Bellingham, Slovakia so close
to a famous.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
Win, and ever did the equalizer. Dude, Bellingham's done it.
He's pulled it out of the bag right to the
end of the game, and just to say we're about
to side out of the competition. He keeps their hopes alive.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Then extra time sent Gorwoods again had it across change
them too?

Speaker 9 (14:10):
In England, I want to turn around here in Couns
and kirkeet two quick cars right at the end of
added time and right at the start.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
Of extra time.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Right, they've just started the second spell of fifteen minutes,
two lots of fifteen minutes an extra time England still
lead to one exit poll out of France. They've dropped
a national rally back to thirty three percent. So things
are unfolding and being manipulated as we speak. News for
you in a couple of moments here at News Talks.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Headb the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk
to Mike Costing Breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real
estate differently since nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
News talks head b coming to the end of extra timement,
the football are they haven't added on extra time of
the extra time, but England's still up to nil. This
man could well be the new French Prime minister.

Speaker 13 (15:03):
Three weeks after the European elections which are led to
the legislative elections. They've given verdict and they've confirmed their
clear hopes for change. The candidates from the National Rally
are at the head and allow them to in fact

(15:24):
to get to the second round with an extraordinary majority.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And this is giving us a hope.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Mister Bardella, aged twenty eight. Here's horold unfolds over the
next week. Macron's just spoken. He's called for a broad
democratic alliance. The time has come for a clearly democratic
and republican alliance for the second round. So, in other words,
they try and stack the deck against the right wingers.
Jean Luke Milichan who hits the left wing New Popular
Front alliance. He says he's going to withdraw candidates of

(15:55):
his party who placed third in the first round in
order to defeat the highest number of far right National candidate.
So it's all to play for this coming weekend twenty
two to seven, and that's before we get to the
States and Richard Arnold and the Maiden family hunkered down
at Camp David. So there's a lot to talk about
this morning. The longtime England of one, so it's over

(16:16):
to one. They go through. So maybe Rushi's going to
win on Thursday. Now you see Rusha's going to run
on Thursday. England come back from the death, Russia comes
back from the death.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Anyway? I will worry about that another date. Integrity Sports
and Recreation Commission launches today. This is a new Crown entity.
It will take responsibility for safeguarding sport and recreation in
this country. The chief executive is Rebecca Roles, who is
with us. Rebecca, good morning, Morrian and Mike. You take
over from who do you simply replace? Drug Free?

Speaker 16 (16:43):
So drug Free becomes part of the Commission, which will
be a bigger organization than drug Free Sports Zealand was.
So their staff twenty four people will come over and
then the Commissioner build on that to discharge its obligations
around other functions.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Will you be doing things that nobody else has been
doing before.

Speaker 16 (17:00):
Yeah, absolutely, actually, I mean anti doping has been going
really well obviously for many years now, so that will continue.
But the Commission brings together services around complaints, mediation, looks
at safeguarding and competition manipulational match fix and so a
lot of the things that have been potentially reactive or
not dealt with it all. The legislation provides the mechanisms

(17:20):
for the Commission to actually start investigating and doing something
about those things.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
And are you forced on sports or does sports have
to sign up to you?

Speaker 16 (17:28):
No, if there's a code for integrity which will be
released later in the year, and that's a voluntary code,
so it is support and recreation organizations to make that decision.
But so far, the intent, the opinions we've heard is
that everyone's very very supportive. So it'll be a process
of a year or two while people sort of work
through what that means. But you know, I think, you know,

(17:48):
after a couple of years it will start to settle
down and be able to be up and running properly.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And how much of that actual code is out there
and people know of it and have time to soak
it up and react to it.

Speaker 16 (17:58):
Look, there'll be plenty of time, and we've done some
initial sort of testing with specific support and recreation organizations,
and then we'll release an exposure draft, probably within the
next couple of months, so that people will have time
with it, and that'll be open for six weeks initially,
and if we need longer, we'll we'll keep it open
longer and we'll start processing the feedback. But ideally they'll
put us in a good position to release on the

(18:18):
end of the year.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
How much subtlety isn't it, in other words, max fixing
we're all against probably I'm assuming at the other end
of the spectrum, how nuance does it get and how
nuanced do you have to be to bring sports on boards,
you know, instead of them saying i'll tell you what
it's a it's a bit too much for us.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (18:35):
No, it's a really good question, and that's kind of
fed in quite a lot into the code, and it's
drafting is making something that people can see themselves in
and organizations can actually realistically implement, but also as a
massive awareness raising an education piece as well. In competition
manipulation is a really good idea, a really good example
of that because other than a criminal act in that respect,

(18:56):
there's not much legislation or none until today that actually
it makes it against the rules. So some some of
the lower level stuff like passing inside of information and
that kind of thing. So a lot of nuance, a
lot of education. He's the reason why we need to
take sport and recreation organizations along with us.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Good stuff. Rebecca, go well with the job. Apreciate it
very much. Rebecca Roles, Chief executive of this new Integrity
Sports and Recreation Commission nineteen to seven. While we're on
the old democracy front, I use the word reasonably loosely
when I bring you now to Iran. They've had a
vote on Friday. They're still counting, but the Moderates winning,
which is interesting. They're going to have a run off.

(19:33):
It's another one of these of no candidates gets fifty
percent plus one, then they go again this Friday. What
we've got so far is the moderate has got fire
point nine million votes. The guy JULII, who's the hardliner's favorite,
has got fire point five. Turnout was about forty percent
because everyone's sick of it and they're anstey about the war.
But nevertheless, we'll have to go again, we think at

(19:54):
the stage eighteen two.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
The Mic Costing Breakfast now, just to give.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
You a little pick me up this morning of the
ain z Edruy Morgan consumer confidence poll which came out Friday,
so I've got no real coverage. Came out Thursday, rather,
so got no real coverage because of the long weekend.
We're down another two points. We're sitting at eighty three points.
One hundred or above is optimistic, So at eighty three
we're not optimistic, and we're well below the twenty year average.
So long weekend, but no real change to the mood.

Speaker 17 (20:21):
Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,
peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Just to really pick you up. One roof have come
out with their biggest Loser suburbs this morning. Who's so,
who's the biggest loser? Anyway, we'll come to that shortly.
Richard Arnold stateside, morning, what do you speaking of? Which
is he still in camp? David working out what the
hell to do?

Speaker 6 (20:43):
He is nice to be a fly on the wall, right,
but the sense of panic around the Democratic Party has
not eased in the wake of Biden's disastrous debate effort.
The President is back at that retreat where the only
people who really matter when it comes to where that
Joe Biden will stay in the race. This is a
Camp David visit that was planned a bit earlier. But
all of the Biden kitchen cabinet is along. His wife,

(21:04):
doctor Jill Biden is there, so to the President's young
assistant Valery, his longtime print Ted Kaufman, plus a band
of White House advisors. There is a new poll out
today showing that seventy two percent of voters do not
think Biden has the mental and cognitive health to serve
another term. That includes forty one percent of Democrats who
were asked. So the needless barely moved as to the

(21:26):
Biden rematch with Trump, because while Trump spoke with ease,
he also allied with a similar ease some thirty plus
times according to various counts. While Joe Biden is not
yet the official Democratic nominee, it is all but done.
He has sufficient pledge delegates from the primaries, and there
are not enough party heavies so called super gettle delegates

(21:46):
to put in another candidate at this point, so it
is all up to Biden himself. It is Joe Biden
alone who must decide whether he presses on or withdraws
from his re election bid. His debate performance is what
even his own political aid calling a bleeping disaster. He
looked old, unwill He lost track of sentences at times
like this when asked about how taxes on billionaires could

(22:09):
help the country, making sure.

Speaker 18 (22:11):
That we're able to make every single solitary person eligible
for what I've been able to do with the UH,
the COVID, I could be with dealing with everything we
have to do with what if we finally beat Medicare?

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Yeah, that was about the worst moment. Totally lost track
in a way that was hard to watch and difficult
to overlook. Former Democratic Senator Claire mccaskell says of this,
he had one thing he.

Speaker 19 (22:40):
Had to accomplish, and that was reassure America that he
was up to the job at his age, and he.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Failed at that.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Since then, Biden has been out on the hust sins
for a couple of days, actually sounding way more energetic
and coherence our.

Speaker 18 (22:54):
Speak of Smoothe I used to do out of debate
as well as I used to.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
I know what I do know, I know how to
tell the truth.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't like the nas of Americas.

Speaker 18 (23:08):
No, when you get knocked down, you get back out.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
Well, where was that, Biden? On debate night, Biden's supporter,
Congressman Jim Cliburn says that was Mark.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
If this were a ball game, you've got too much.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Well, well, this isn't the ballgame. And behind the scenes
Cliburn is voicing concerns as well, so different stories.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Publicly and privately.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Biden allies have played out the scenarios and see little
chance of anyone by Advice President Kamala Harris getting the
nomination if Biden steps aside, would the Democratic Party deny
the nomination to the first woman, the first Black American
to be VP? Hard to imagine that, and yet many
believe Harris could not win against Trump. So few but
the Trump faithful thought Trump said anything of use in

(23:49):
the debate either, said Senator Raphael Warnock.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
The more I hear Donald Trump talking, the more nervous
I've become watching Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
The other night, I had to say to myself that
this is a person.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
I mean, how do you stand and literally lie every
ninety seconds.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
I don't know anybody like that.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
So the broad polling hasn't shifted much, which is interesting,
and right now Biden advised that are confiding it's a mess.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
And then we come to tomorrow, which could be good
news for We don't think so. That could be good
news for Trump could be.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
The Supreme Court, highest court in the land, with the
three Trump appointer use and of course of the sixty
three conservative majority at the minute, is set to rule
tomorrow on whether former President Trump has immunity over his
actions involving the storming of the US Capitol on January
the sixth, twenty twenty one. The Court has left this
case as the last one to deliver a ruling on
in their present term. It will be a hugely impactful

(24:44):
finding that Trump trial was set to begin, as you know,
last March before the Supreme Court intervened in this way.
Just two days ago, the Court ruled that some of
the January the sixth rioters were improperly charged. They also
said that homeless folks in an Oregon town could be
rounded up and put in jail for sleep in the
streets and in parks. Meantime, Trump advisor Steve Bannon reports
to prison tomorrow for a four months jail term for

(25:06):
refusing a Congressional subpoena to appear before the Congress on
the January of the sixth riots. Bannon says he's not
sorry for defying the US Congress. Thinks the government workers
who oppose his policies and refuse to be loyal to
Trump should be kicked out of their jobs. He told
cheering crowd. His intentions are simple. It is, he says,
victory or death.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Catch up Wednesday might appreciate it very much. Lot going on.
Richard Arnold stateside a, Rishi Sunak just put out the
photo with the sign it's not over till it's over
the football or the vote or both.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Ten to seven the mic Hosking Breakfast went Jaguar News, togs.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
eNB big it. It sounds me the reaction to Biden.
Like some commentators, I saw this coming two years ago.
No surprise at all that Trump wins. Of course, the
MSM will be in shock and disbelief. I don't think
they're in shock and disbelief at the over arching issue.
It was an ongoing issue. And what was remarkable was
that he had that one job as the woman that
Richard played a moment ago. He had a singular job,

(26:05):
just turn up and look coherent, and he couldn't do that.
That's the shot, Michael Biden can't even hold it together
for a debate. Do you truly believe he's got the president?
But no, that's what I'm saying. He's not going to
get any better. He's getting no better from where he
is right now. Do you think he's going to get
any better in the next four and a half years.
Of course he's not. The question for people who potentially
vote for him is how much worse does he get? Morning, Mike,
congratulations on your win with the BSA despite your states

(26:29):
on the increasing electrification of the road vehicles. I would
never report you to the BSA for you very can't.
If you missed the BSA coverage, it was a non event.
I might come back to it later. But and they
yet another person whined about us and it wasn't upheld.
Now five minutes away from seven pull the ins.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
And the outs.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
It's the fizz on the Mike Husking Breakfast on News
Talk s B.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I might not be the Hunger Games, as we said
last week, but still a tricky old job market out
there at the moment in some industries This is the
BEE and Zi Seak employment report shows the number of
job ats fell farve percent in May, down thirty percent
over a year, so fewer job ads applications per ad.
They're up sixty nine percent on this time last year,
so a lot of people looking for a lot of work.
Construction were sect and not surprisingly biggest fall in job ads,

(27:13):
largely thanks to the engineering jobs down twelve percent month
on month, so that's a big drop. Construction jobs had
the largest quarterly decline at ten percent. Public sected down
as you would imagine a month on month at seven percent. Manufacturing,
transport and logistics also saw large drops seven point two
percent fewer ads in those categories and May applications for
those jobs up nine percent, which puts it up forty

(27:35):
three percent higher than COVID, which is a record. So
there are specific areas the economy that are not going
particularly well. Right, Let's come to the loser of subjects.
This is one roof this morning, just to percu you
up for a Monday. The biggest losers suburb wise around
the country. Who's lost the most over the last three months,
who's loss of the Let me have a look Kelvin
Heights come on in Kelvin Heights and Queenstown. Beautiful part

(27:58):
of the world, but you're not worth what it was.
You down one hundred twenty two thousand dollars in the
value of your property over the last three months. Pirata
one O two thousand. Kelbourn very nice and Kelburn just
not as valuable as you used to be. Down ninety
four thousand dollars and three months. That's thirty thousand dollars
a month. That's one thousand dollars a day. Do it
that way, you are losing one thousand dollars a day. Kelburn.

(28:19):
Mount Albert eighty nine. You're almost as bad as Kelburn.
You say, what is that they say about Mount Albert?
It's almost as bad as Calvin Huma Wana down eighty
three thousand dollars in the past three months. Melon's Bay.
My wife grew up in Melon's Bay, went to Mellon's Bay.
Primary Like he.

Speaker 15 (28:37):
Said, how that's so exclusive that I've don't even think
I've ever even heard.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I've never heard of Melon's Bay. Oh beautiful out by
howickyst Auckland variant, Well it was nice, not nice anymore
of I'm glad I'm giving people are flooding out of
the place, down eighty thousand dollars and three months Omaha.
Oh the elite of all well, none of them will
be in Omahara at the moment. They're all in Europe
for August, of course, because people who can afford a
house and Omaha average value two point seven million dollars.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Oh, I hope.

Speaker 15 (29:03):
So Joe and Key's not listening.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
He's already sold up and moved on out. My friend
moved on out ages ago. He saw this coming and
he ran for the hills Totra Park. Sorry, down seventy
five thousand dollars. It's twenty five thousand dollars a month.
That's what eight hundred and fifty eight hundred and sixty
dollars a day. How was your day? Well, I lost
eight hundred and sixty dollars on the value of the
house Westmere down seventy four thousand dollars. An only Hunger

(29:25):
is down seventy three thousand dollars. Biggest losers according to
one roof not me.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
That was one roof the breakfast show You Can Trust
the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
With Avida Live The Age You Feel News TOGSEDB.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Welling seven past seven more health promises from the government.
We now have a three year plan for the public
health system. It focuses on reducing the impact of cancer,
caadiavascular and respiratory diseases, and diabetes. There are also five
specific targets for mental health and addiction, including eighty percent
of people accessing specialist mental health and addiction services within
three weeks and training five hundred mental health and addiction

(30:00):
professionals every year. The Health Minister, Shane Retty is with
us morning.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Morning.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I good to speak with you and you too big,
called you up for it.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Absolutely. What we've done here with the government policy statement
is focused the direction for health and said very clearly
is what we do. We're going to improve life expectancy
and improve the colleague of life and here's how we're
going to do it timely access to quality healthcare, workforce, infrastructure.
And then as you said, beneath that, out of five
percideses five targets, that's what we do. Really clear system

(30:29):
can focus on that, the accountabilities are clear, that's where
the good ship help is going.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Even if you load money in right now, how long
does it take to flow through on things like staffing.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
So what we've seen, we've projected our targets out to
twenty thirty. But as we start to bring staff up
here now and a good example would be a Totadahomo
which I opened yesterday, we're seeing people right now who
are in their pre op We need to go to
surgery in the next hour or two. It does take
an orientation time when you bring people on board, of course,
but you bring up the workforce and within months you
start seeing okay.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
The workforce comes from where you train them or you
bring them in.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Combination of both. The most immediate lever that you can
pull is immigration, but I'm absolutely committed to building our
own domestic pipeline. So it's a combination of both. Along
with retention. We need to be able to retain those
who are here so that they're not leaking out the offshore.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
On the mental health front, and it's not your fault
because you're new to the job, but we've heard the
mental health debate for years and years and years. What's
different this time?

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, what's different this time several things. First of all,
we have a dedicated minister and Minister Doucy for mental health,
an absolute focus and a passion, plus a track record
in his previous life of working in mental health. That's
significantly different. Secondly, really strong targets which you'll talk to
later in the week, that brings a real focus and

(31:52):
energy to mental health and that's quite different.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
We wish you well with it. Doctor Shane Redding, the
Minister of Health with us this morning, Nam and it's
past seven the week in big weekend, as the police
went after the boy race his Saturday night across Wellington
Bay a plenty in Canterbury, we had four hundred and
seventy two infringement notice this issued. Sixty nine vehicles seized
and pounded or ordered off the road, eleven cars were
pinkle green stick and six people were forbidden to drive.
Four people had licenses suspend at thirteen at excess boost

(32:17):
relieving Central District Commander Superintendent Jeanette Parkers with us. Very
good morning to you. So the work was clearly out
there to be done, wasn't it.

Speaker 20 (32:27):
Absolutely yeah, look at disrupting our communities, people in need
vehicles and causing damage injuries as definitely not going to
be tolerated.

Speaker 21 (32:35):
That we were out about.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
As successful as you would claim it to be. Were
you surprised at how much of it there was to
clean up.

Speaker 20 (32:44):
Thank this is not a new issue for us. We've
been policing this for some time and definitely, you know,
we went out and actually advised that we would be there.
And when you see results such as nine hundred infringement
notices across the districts, it's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
And what happens to those infringement notices these sort of
people who dutifully pay the fines.

Speaker 20 (33:05):
Well, so it's interesting because actually we had base working
across in Wellington and they seized vehicles where people had
outstanding fines and I remember one situation where they actually
one person on the side of the road paid they're
through one thousand dollar fine, so they didn't have their
vehicles sees.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Three thousand dollars on the spot they paid it.

Speaker 22 (33:26):
Absolutely unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, pink or green sticker means what.

Speaker 20 (33:32):
It's unroadworthy vehicles that so you know, you get vehicles
that have been lowered, that have been altered and they
are still on the road and they're not roadworthy.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
How many cars actually got taken off people and they
won't get them back hence solving the problem.

Speaker 20 (33:47):
So there was fifty vehicles in pounded and varying reasons.
So they will be managed according to what the legislation
lifts for.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Those and who are the people behind the wheel? Though
the same sort of people you would expect to round
up on a Saturday night that drive these sort of
cars and do this sort of thing.

Speaker 20 (34:06):
Look sadly, these are young people, so they are teams
and up. I mean, you know on occasions parents they
don't know they're out there. There was an example in
Wellington where our staff went to an address that they
identified with a vehicle that you know, these young people
were seventeen and wearing tactical vests and being aggressive. Turned

(34:26):
out that they were the learner driver and the mother
rang her son to get her car back.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Cheers.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Is this a will have a chilling effect or is
there more with this came from?

Speaker 20 (34:39):
I think this will definitely have a chilling effect, and
certainly we're not finished. And for the people that were
involved in illegal behavior, I mean, you know, we had
eagle about, we had a lot of support. We're getting
support from the community which is tremendous, and our staff
is focus and we will continue. So people who were
involved in the legal behavior on those nights. We will

(35:01):
follow them up and they may just receive a knock.

Speaker 21 (35:03):
At the door.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Good stuff, Jeanette, appreciate your time, Jeanette Park Superintendent with
us this morning, twelve minutes past seven, Pascal. That's part
of the tangible action that Mark Mitchell will be very
pleased with. Good poll out over the weekend from the
Taxpayers Union.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
This is the there.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I suggest it's the maraification of New Zealand. I'll come
back to that in just a couple of moments. But
the question was who should be the final decision maker
on the introduction or disestablishment of malor rewards and constituencies
on local councils, local mayors, councilors or local voters. In
other words, the government is returning the rules to the
way they used to be. In other words, if a

(35:37):
council just one day wakes up in the morning and goes, hey,
we're going to have some local boards or local wards
or local seats here, you if you want to drum
up enough signatures, can hold a local referendum. It's been
done before. Each and every time a referendum has been held,
the no vote wins and by some substantial margin. So
the poll is fifty eight percent, a very comfortable majority
believed local voters should have the say twenty three percent.

(35:59):
Sh it be back to local mats. So what we
know for a fact now out of that poll is
councils act on their own behalf, not on the voters,
and that is anti democratic. Thirteen past seven, the host
racist Olivia Henry out of America on the Trump debate
and the Trump Barden debate, and I'll give you an
interesting poll just out from CBS a couple of moments ago,

(36:20):
very shortly meantime, at sixteen past seven, Auckland's regional fuel tax.
A lot of things changing today being July one, of course,
but the fuel tax in Auckland that has ended as
a result of Petrol's eleven and a half cents a
later cheaper as of midnight, AA Fuel Prices spokesperson Terry
Collins as with us, Terry, very good morning, Good morning morn.
You had a chance to get you people out there
to see if it's all happened as per well.

Speaker 23 (36:40):
It's a guest boy app and a lot of those
crowd sourced information things. You can start seeing it through
pretty quickly. With all the media that we've had around it.
I think there's plenty of rise on all the super stations.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
There will we no reason to believe that something as
simple as a tax that goes can't be seen at
the petrol pump immediately, is there?

Speaker 23 (37:00):
And I think the reason why it too is a
Comduce commission a couple of weeks ago put out a
report about an effect called the rocket and feather. That is,
when the price inputs when up to say the price
of crude, when the price at the retail pump would
lock it up. We know same inputs went down, the
price at the retail pump went down like a feather.
I cannot imagine the oil companies wanting to exaggerate that

(37:20):
effect or confirm it exists by holding off dropping that
price today.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And that's the problem, isn't it with the complexity of
the I mean, this isn't tax isn't complicated at all,
but the makeup and the inputs into it is. And
so in three days time, when something happens to a price,
people are going to go, wait a minute, here is
that the tax, or is that the oil? Or is
that the transport?

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Or is that the dollar?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
And we never know do we we do it, and.

Speaker 23 (37:44):
It's exactly right. We've got a bunch of these external ones,
the price of wild refining, shipping itet settery. Then we've
got the internal ones. Well, the tax stays are same,
we know that, but you've got kind of the margin
shift around and the transport costs. Look an Awkland today
is the fifty cent difference between the most expensive in
the cheapest so eleven dollars sorry even and a half

(38:04):
seats at six dollars ninety for sixty leadier tink, it's
fifty cents for sixty leter tink, there's thirty dollars. And
I only put a teen kilometer radius on Auckland.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah that was them, Which it doesn't make it right, Terry.
But I keep saying, if if you want to save
money and you've got an app or whatever, you can
do it if you shop around and look hard, can't you?

Speaker 23 (38:23):
Oh, you desperately can, and just be smart about it.
If I go on a long trip, I'll actually we'll
get with so no it's a matter matter or something
like that, Hey that's the cheapest place, or now on
my trip I'll fill up with if you'est things like
that no a tink Eve Toomey for the tent, say
thirty dollars. Well, that's pretty good, Soviet.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I reckon, very nice to talk to. You appreciate it.
Terry Collins Automobile Association, whether it's this morning now. For
the rest of the country, of course you don't care
because you never had the regional fuel taxs. But unfortunately
in Auckland, the money they raise from the fuel tax
with fantastic. All the things that have been done, it's amazing.
I don't have time to list them all now, but
believe me, it's just revolutionized.

Speaker 15 (38:58):
I'm just looking at it.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Lest Yeah, I mean incredible, isn't it. I mean it's
difficult to know which one to use.

Speaker 15 (39:03):
I don't know where to start.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Should Biden be running for president?

Speaker 10 (39:07):
Not?

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Should Biden be president? The pollers the CBSU gave a
couple of moments ago should Biden be running at all?
So in February, thirty seven percent of Americans thought he should.
So that wasn't a good number back then. As of
this morning, it's twenty eight, so it's gone. As a
result of the debate from thirty seven down to twenty eight,
he should not be running back in February it was
sixty three. As a result of the debate, it's gone

(39:30):
from sixty three to seventy two percent. So it's no
wonder the Democrats are saying they're being gaslet because the vast,
vast majority of Americans do not want him to even run.
They don't even want him as the option to vote.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
So what do they do?

Speaker 2 (39:47):
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Speaker 3 (40:56):
Is it true?

Speaker 2 (40:58):
I think it is. It's true to say that Biden
got it together somewhat as the debate unfolded, But it
started out so badly that even in his finest moments
it was ordinary to say the least. The unmistakable truth
is what you saw. It's as good as it gets.
If America vote for him, he doesn't improve. Think about it.
He doesn't improve over the next four and a half years.
He doesn't get younger, he doesn't get sharper. I've not

(41:20):
until this point, and this was the interesting thing about
the big debate. I have not until this point actually
believed the narrative that you can take a sitting president
and replace a mid race. But now I'm not so sure.
If he quits or gets pulled, they will lose. It
would be a disaster. But is it a bigger disaster
than letting him carry on and lose. Anyway, no one
in their right mind can vote for him in the

(41:43):
state he is in. I can also mount an argument
that no one in their right mind can vote for
Trump either. He lied his way through most of the debate.
Everything was perfect until he left. Apparently, now it's the
worst it's ever been. Water, the air war, the border,
the economy. It was perfect like no one had I've
ever seen it. Now it's the worst we've ever seen
in the history of the world. That's all he said.

(42:03):
Pick a topic, same answer. They were both shocking. It
is an indictment on the American political system that those
two are what you get to choose from the debate.
Was also the loser.

Speaker 21 (42:13):
I thought.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Questions weren't answered, it was locked down by a stopwatch.
Questions were ignored, matters went followed up, nothing flowed. It
lacked energy. I mean, yes, if they'd let it free wheel,
that would have imploded. I guess. So I don't know
what to do about the next one, if there's a
next one. But what you were left with is an
empty feeling. I thought that the most powerful nation on
Earth is run by or about to be run by,

(42:35):
some exceedingly limited people. The low point, surely was the
exchange over golf handicaps. Biden was a sex and till
he decided he was an eight. And Trump wins tournaments
and not even senior ones. Are you serious? Trump is
dangerous because he's mad. Biden is dangerous because he's in
the most obvious cognitive decline. A crook versus a geriatric

(42:56):
What a choice? And that choice, for ninety minutes was
on display in the most pressing show of credentials I
think I have ever seen hosking Mike. The Americans don't
want Kamela Harris running America eitheron and that's the problem.
I can work you through if I get time, and
I'm probably not going to. But you have the delegates
at the convention. The convention's coming up. The delegates come

(43:16):
representing each state. This is what the whole primary system
has been about and somebody goes, you know, from the
great state of Michigan, our seventeen votes go for mister
Joe Biden, and that's you know, you can in those
circumstances actually have delegates vote for anybody you want. They
try and stitch them up before you get there so
you don't have an all out fight. But they've stitched
up Biden. So the problem with that is that not

(43:39):
only have the delegates from the state's been ticked off
and finalized the campaign itself on Biden's behalf have finalized them.
In other words, they're all in Biden's camp. They're all
going to the convention to think they're going to vote
for Biden. So what do they do? And that's before
you get to the super delegates. But that's another matter.
The whole thing's a complete mess, Mike. That California candidate

(44:00):
seems very knowledgeable. No he isn't. Gavin Newsom's a disaster,
and you can't buy pass the vice president. You can't
pull a prison for a start, you can't pull a
president and have no one go what and then not
go to the vice president, go to some guy in
California with greasy hair. No one knows who Gavin Newsom is,
apart from the people who live in California who have
watched him run the state into bankruptcy. So the whole

(44:20):
thing is a complete and utter pluster. Mike not really
in touch with the French election. Is there a chance
they could go right? Yes, missed your updates. Well that's
on you. I've been updating you all morning. Yes, there
is a chance they'll go right, and we won't know
that until this coming Sunday, when the second round. So
we'll carry on the discussion with the Americans. Olivia Henry
is with us in just a couple of moments. What

(44:41):
happens next? Does he come out of camp David? Does
he even know he's at camp David? Does anyone make
a decision? Who pulls the trigger? Anyway? More Shortly, Big News.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Bold Opinions the Mike asking breakfast with Jaguar the art
of performance news Tom said, b.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Difficult to know when you're looking at highlights with or
anything out shone this particular moment.

Speaker 24 (45:06):
I just won two club championships, not even senior, two
regular club championships.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
To do that you have to be quite smart.

Speaker 18 (45:13):
I'm happy to golf if you carry on bag, if
you can do it.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
So what's the biggest write?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
There is a six handicap of.

Speaker 18 (45:21):
All hours, an eight handicap, yeah, eight.

Speaker 11 (45:25):
You see, I've seen this wing.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
I know this wing. Let's not act like Trump. We're
going let's not act like children.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Let's not. We're still talking about it. Four days later,
presidents at Camp David. Of course, we're family working on
what to do next. The panic and the Democratic Party
has been palpable. Former presidents have been rolled out to
reassure people. A bad debate does not a campaign derail.
Senior national correspondent at US News and will report to
oliviate Henry Is with US. Good morning to you, good morning.

(45:56):
Could you believe what you were watching?

Speaker 13 (46:00):
No?

Speaker 25 (46:01):
No, I could not. You know, we've had three and
a half years and countless live exchanges with President Biden
and that debate, those ninety minutes on that debate stage
were easily the worst of his time in office in
terms of his public appearances, speaking, and the and just
the general state his general stake.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Does the fact he rolled out the next day looking
bitter and obomber, and Clinton rolled out as well to
help him out. A bit fix anything or not.

Speaker 25 (46:32):
Well, it'll it'll It's like a tourniquet, right, it stops,
it stops the bleeding in the immediate but if you
take a tourniquet off, the person will will keep bleeding.
So it's helpful to Joe Biden. Obviously it was necessary
for them to come out. But then you also see,
you know, a bunch of former aids, former White House
aids to Barack Obama coming out and saying Biden needs

(46:55):
to step aside. So there's still they are still under
considerable pressure. In the last forty hours, they've been trying
to reassure the donor base. They've been hyping up fundraising.
I think they're up to thirty three million dollars since
the debate, half of them from first time donors. But
everyone's going to be watching polling from America's battleground states
to see just how badly this damaged President Finden's reelection effort.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
What's your assessment with it? There's a second debate, well.

Speaker 25 (47:23):
Biden Biden now needs one, and they've already they've already
telegraphed that he would participate in one. In one half
of I mean, there is one notionally on the schedule
in September, but he needs one now. He needs he
needs to be able to well, he needs one. If
his team thinks he can, he can deliver a completely
different performance, obviously, but he needs stuff to reset his campaign.

Speaker 23 (47:44):
He's got.

Speaker 25 (47:46):
He has a small advantage going into this week, and
that there are a lot of things that are going
to be demanding the public's attention, you know, the Paris
Olympics and that Yahoo's visit, things like that. So his
best bet now might be to just try to drop
out of the headlines as much as possible and those
things will stop the constant replays on television of his

(48:08):
debate performance. I mean, the way, the way that I
put it in my in my peace for the US
News World Report was if you want to know how
badly his night went, removing lead pipes made it into
his final remarks, but neither neither restoring abortion abortion access
nor preserving democracy in America did, And that presumably was

(48:31):
the was the That was the remarks that he would
have prepared knowing that they'd be invited to make closing remarks.
It was a terrible performance.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Does he stay on the rice, Yes, I think he does.

Speaker 25 (48:43):
We have a new reporting from the New York Times
that says that family members are encouraging him to stay in.
It would be actually pretty difficult to remove him against
his will. So I think as of right now, he
stays in the race, certainly in the barnstorming he has
done since the debate. He's done a few rallies, he's
done a bunch of fundraisers. He has not given any
indication at all that he's having second thoughts about running.

(49:06):
So I think I understand there's a lot of wish
casting that he might step aside, or we might have
a magical savior for the Democratic Party. I don't think
it's going to happen. I think it's I think it's
Biden Trump in November, barring some cataclysmic event for Aderman.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Olivia, appreciate your expertise. We'll get you on again soon,
Olivia Henry, who was the senior national correspondent of the
US News and World Report nineteen minutes away from eight
PSKAR A lot of this this morning, Mike. Why isn't
the MS media talking about the lies that Biden says?
They only comment on Trump lies? Mike, In the seven
o'clock News referred to Trump's lies. Could you please expand

(49:41):
on what these lies were would be my pleasure. Shortly
nineteen to two.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
The Mike Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
We're at seven forty five year fact checking, so a
lot of emphasis on the number of lies that Trump told,
and there were many of them, which which is why
I came to the conclusion there were no winners out
of this. The whole thing was just a cataclysmic cluster. Anyway,
the fact chick is came out after the bite. So
how many times did Biden lied? Nine times?

Speaker 19 (50:08):
He said he's the only president in a while who
didn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world. Troops have,
of course, died on his watch. He said, he's put
in a fifteen dollars per shot cap on insulin and Medicare.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
It's a thirty five dollars a month cap.

Speaker 19 (50:19):
He said, it's a two hundred dollars cap on overall
drug spending in Medicare.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
It's two thousand dollars a year. He said the border now.

Speaker 19 (50:25):
Has fewer crossings than when Trump was in office. That's
generally not true, he said, or at least strongly suggested
unemployment was that fifteen percent when he took office, it
was actually six point four. He said Trump's want Trump
wants to get rid of Social Security. Trump doesn't. He said,
billionaires pay eight point two percent in taxes. It's much higher.
He said Trump told Americans to inject bleach amid COVID.
We know Trump made foolish comments about scientists studying disinfectant injection,

(50:48):
but didn't frame it as advice to people. And Biden
said the Border Patrol endorsed him. No, it's union supported
the border bill Head supported, never endorsed him himself. In fairness,
the President did appear to clarify that one will.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
They lies some of the around numbers. If you listened
to Joe Biden, he didn't have a clue about numbers millionaires, billionaires, trillionaires.
He was all over the place. He's completely confused. But
nevertheless he got a lot of stuff wrong. Nine times
he made mistakes, which is not as many though as Trump,
who made thirty deep breath.

Speaker 19 (51:15):
He said some Democratic states allow people to execute babies
after birth, an agregeious lie that is illegal in every state.
He said, everybody, even Democrats who wanted Roe v. Wade
overturn Roe was supported by two thirds of Americans, even
more Democrats. He said every legal scholar wanted Row overturn
abortion to return to the States. Legal scholars have told
me directly this is not true.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
He said.

Speaker 19 (51:36):
The US currently has the biggest budget deficit ever. Know
that happened under Trump in twenty twenty. He said the
US currently has a record trade deficit with China. That
also happened under Trump in twenty eighteen. He said Biden
personally gets a lot of money from China. Zero evidence
of this. He said there were no terror attacks during
his presidency. In fact, there were multiple attacks. He said
Iran didn't find Hamas has Belah other terror groups under

(51:57):
his presidency. Iran, in fact did. He said Biden want
to quadruple people's taxes. That is pure fiction.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
He said.

Speaker 19 (52:02):
The US has provided way more aid to Ukraine than Europad.
It's actually the opposite. He said has provided about two
hundred billion in Ukraine aid. It's closer to one hundred
and ten billion. He said, eighteen or nineteen million people
across the border under Biden. That is millions too high.
He said many of these migrants are from prisons or
mental institutions. His own campaign cannot corroborate this.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
He said.

Speaker 19 (52:22):
Biden has only created jobs for illegal immigrants. Total nonsense.
He said Nancy Pelosi turned down his offer of ten
thousand National Guard troops on January sixth. There's no evidence
she even got such an offer. It was the President,
not Pelosi, who had the power to deploy the DC Guard,
he said. Pelosi now acknowledges she turned down the troops. No,
her office tells me this claim is still a lie.
He said he deployed the National Guard to Minneapolis in

(52:43):
twenty twenty. Actually that was the Democratic governor. He spoke of,
quote ridiculous fraud in the twenty twenty election, zero evidence
of any widespread fraud. He said NATO was going out
of business before he took office, completely clearly absurd. He
said the US was paying one hundred percent of NATO
before he came along. The US made up about seventy
one percent of NATO defense spending nin one hundred, he said.
He not Biden, is the one who lowered insulin prices

(53:04):
in Medicare. He did it for some seniors, but Biden
did it for far more.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
He said.

Speaker 19 (53:08):
Biden indicted him again no evidence Biden has had a
personal role in any of these four prosecutions.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
He said Europe takes no US cars. Just not true.

Speaker 19 (53:16):
He spoke of food prices quadrupling under Biden. That's a
wild exaggeration, though they are up. He said Biden made
up the idea. He called dead service members suckers and losers.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
No.

Speaker 19 (53:25):
The Atlantic magazine reported that, and then former Trump Chief
of Staff John Kelly corroborated it. He said Biden called
black people quote super predators for ten years. Biden never
once deployed that phrase, let alone for ten years, though
he did at least one speak of quote predators without
specifying as about black people. He said his Trump tax
cut was the largest in US history. Not true, though
in fairness, Biden also said this. Trump said China and

(53:47):
others stopped buying from Iran under him. China never stopped.
He revived his pet lie. I don't know how many
times I've done it that he signed the Veteran's Choice
Program into law. Barack Obama did that in twenty fourteen.
Trump signed an expanded version in twenty eighteen. Only Trump
said Biden got rid of that veterans program. Biden has
not done that.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
But apart from that, they were bang on eleven away from.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Eight all the mic hosking breakfast with use dogs.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Dy Well eight minutes away from We've got a key.
We as a first person in the world to trial
the groundbreaking gene therapy. So it's a gene silencing drug
targets a form of muscular dystrophy known as fsh D
it iff it's one in eight thousand trials. Principal advisor
describes the drug as being as significant as having antibiotics
versus not having antibiotics. Associate Professor Richard Rocksbury as well,

(54:34):
there's Richard, morning to you.

Speaker 22 (54:36):
Oh good morning.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
What's the technology that's allowed us to get here? Has
something happened? Have we discovered something changed something?

Speaker 13 (54:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (54:44):
In the last ten years or so, various drug companies
have been working very hard on finding ways to interrupt
the the messenger RNA at that level and do that safely,
so that it's been a big and also finding ways

(55:04):
to direct that technology to the muscles where the problem is.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Right, So that was ten years ago. They've been working
on that since they got that breakthrough. Has that been
a complicated journey?

Speaker 22 (55:15):
Yes, it has, you know, there been a series of
experiments in the lab doing that, first with cells and
then with animals of course, and then and now we're
ready for human trials.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, and what is it about FSHD that's different from
any other form of muscular dystrophy and that this particular
drug may well work for it.

Speaker 22 (55:38):
Well, it's unusual because the whole our bodies actually do
everything we can to suppress the expression of a gene
called Ducks four. So we're basically by doing something where
we silence this gen we're actually doing the job that
the body is trying to do for itself. But with
people who have these conditions, they have a genetic normality,

(56:00):
so that the Ducks for escapes from the surveillance and
suppression is.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Gene silencing the future and all sorts of things. If
we can isolate one out, isolate out the gene for
whatever it may be, and then go about silencing it,
you can solve pretty much anything.

Speaker 22 (56:16):
No, not just about everything, because some things are the
problem is a lack of you know, the genetic abnormality
causes a lack of something. But there are some diseases
such as f SHD, where there's an over expression of
something toxic. Another example would be myotonic dystrophy that's probably
the commonest muscular dystrophy in New Zealand and that we've

(56:38):
already got trials which is showing amazing benefits for the patients.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
And when you talk about gene silencing, so you're not
I mean, you're not solving the problem. It's like a headache.
You've still got the headache, you just can't feel. Is
it that simple or not?

Speaker 22 (56:51):
Yeah, it's well, it's no, you don't have it's gene
silencing in that we're not taking away the gene. So
you're right, it's not getting We're not doing crisper at
this stage. Maybe that's for the future, but we're not
changing the gene itself. But we're changing the very first
message from the DNA. Your body makes messenger RNA, which

(57:15):
goes out to the cells to make proteins, and it's
at that very first step where the DNA makes messenger RNA.
We're interrupting at that very fundamental level. So we really
getting to the root of things.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
But we're not about side effects at this point. And
whether or not it works with everybody, oh good question.

Speaker 22 (57:34):
I mean, the whole of this, this thing where the
New Zealanders are having the first doses, and last week
and this week. The whole purpose of this study is
to make sure it's safe.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
All right?

Speaker 2 (57:45):
When will we When will we know? And when's the
path of commercialization?

Speaker 22 (57:50):
Well it's early days, but I was if it works
as well as this other study that we've just had,
I would think over the next three years it may
may maybe clinical practice and within about three years time.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
It's amazing. All right, Richard, go well, appreciate it very much.
Richard Rocksborough, the trials principal investigate. It's amazing what science
can do or will do or is about to do. Mike,
how can Biden's wife stand by and allow her husband
to be mocked by this? Kathy? I don't know she
is standing by and allowing them to be mocked. I
looked at her over the weekend. As far as I
can work out, she's doing a lot of the mocking herself.

(58:24):
Standing there with Joe looking like a five year old
who's wet his pants on stage, going and you answered
every question. Joe, I'm thinking, are you serious? Woman, She's
the biggest problem, and wearing a dress with vote on it.
I mean so I just wonder if she's one of
the bigger problems and that whole calamitous mess. But gess

(58:44):
I tell you what she's going to unfold in an
interesting one in the news. I mean, he's got to
reappear at some point. They've they've got to let him
out of Camp David at some point to do something,
say something. And as was mentioned earlier on, he's got
net Me coming to coming to town this week. The
worry is about the if one. If you missed this
morning as good as it gets. More with the lads
in the commentary box.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
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Speaker 4 (59:18):
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Speaker 15 (59:22):
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Speaker 3 (59:27):
He established his front wing.

Speaker 26 (59:29):
The lady contenders for the World Championship come together and
turn three the crowd can't believe it and George Russell
will be looking at the gap and for just the
second time in Formula one, the British Drivon will see
the flag first.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
And George Russell wins.

Speaker 26 (59:45):
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Speaker 9 (59:48):
Gonna get it done here at Mount Smart Stadium, every
Martha McKey, everybody and worries.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
And bounce back and find nation under the horror.

Speaker 15 (59:59):
Show on gold.

Speaker 9 (01:00:02):
It hasn't been a vintage performance, but all importantly.

Speaker 22 (01:00:06):
For Garah self gets team, it has been a winning one.

Speaker 9 (01:00:09):
As ever, it seems England did it the hard way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Andrews both with us fellows, good morning to you, morning
morning as well. Yeah, I was going to say the
highlight for you guys.

Speaker 21 (01:00:25):
What well. I woke up in about the eighty something
minute and turned on the England game and saw that
golden Jude Belling and what a goal. That was just pinpoint.
I can't analyze the rest of the game. I know
a lot of England fans have said they were terrible,
but they got the win. And then I also watched
the replay of the F one and man, oh man,
that was a pretty exciting few laps leading up to

(01:00:47):
the incident and George Russell winning. It was a It
was a pretty wild little period.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Did you hear Toto on the radio.

Speaker 21 (01:00:56):
To George and then George telling you win?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
George drive, drive.

Speaker 24 (01:01:01):
I'm trying to win the race.

Speaker 21 (01:01:02):
Then maybe an bomb in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
It was absolutely brilliant. What about you, sad? What do
you enjoy?

Speaker 24 (01:01:09):
Bellingham's goal bicycle kick goal was basically the last kick
of regulation time or stoppage time in that England Slovakia game.
England were terrible through most of the game. They couldn't
hit the side of the barn, and then all of
a sudden, we're thirty seconds to go. Bellingen scores the
equalizer with the bicycle kick of all kicks. Ballsy stuff,

(01:01:30):
and then Caine scores early in extra time. In England
through to play Switzerland and the quarter finals. Remarkable stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So that then means do they go through to the
semi finals.

Speaker 24 (01:01:42):
A quarterfinal against Switzerland?

Speaker 27 (01:01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
No, But do they go through the semi finals?

Speaker 25 (01:01:46):
When did they go to the final?

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Yes, because you think they will.

Speaker 21 (01:01:49):
Generally that's generally what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
If you want to call it now, you're dick. I'm
meaning Switzerland. Aren't that good?

Speaker 24 (01:01:55):
Switzerland?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Wow?

Speaker 24 (01:01:56):
The Swiss peak the Italians with Italians aren't up too
much these days. No, but look England, I think they
need to make some changes and become a bit more
of an attacking side. They've just struggled scoring goals.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
But that's their problem, though, isn't it. I tell you
what I learned the other day that I didn't know
because I don't follow the sport that much. And it's
funny you should say that. You know the ice hockey
we were talking about this time last week. So the
deciding game was played. It was played at home in Florida.
Florida won it, so they won the Stanley Cup. And
what they had done is they were I can't remember
how it went, but they once upon a time were
a defensive side and couldn't win by being a defensive side,

(01:02:33):
so they transformed themselves to an attacking side. In other words,
they sacked people, hide people, completely transformed the way they
played the game, or vice versa one or the other.
So it's worked. So I would argue that England aren't
the side they need to be. Therefore, that's why they constantly.

Speaker 24 (01:02:47):
Struggled a type of can they just need to make
some changes. They've got, They've got the players that got
the talent you're sorry to remind you of.

Speaker 21 (01:02:58):
That reminds me of the black Cats under brandam colum
for years they played a defensive, kind of pretty boring
style of cricket and the Black Camps got trounced a
week and week out, game and game out, and then
McCallum said, no, we just got to go and just
take it to the opposition and they turned They pretty
much turned their fortunes around. Didn't win them any titles,
but that made them play a lot better. So maybe

(01:03:18):
you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Interesting, Do you have any ideas said whether there's rates
the European football? Is that a rating success for you
guys at TVNZ?

Speaker 24 (01:03:26):
I would imagine so, Mike, I'd imagine the England games
right well, and others as well. I think that the
the eye catching, the eye catching quality of the games
and the atmosphere of the games, it's been outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Okay.

Speaker 27 (01:03:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
And having said that, then guy, let me put this
to you. The cricket which sort of you know, into
your wins fantastic and South Ambera. So did that do
what it was supposed to do or meant to do
in America? Did that sort of energize Absolutely not.

Speaker 21 (01:03:58):
And then especially if you if you if you're trying
to energize the sport in a new country. As you say,
would you not have the main games of the tournament
in that country instead of just having pool games that
really don't mean a lot. I would have thought that
you should have a semi final in the final, maybe
in America, to try and get the main games in
front of the eyes that you want them to be
in front of. For me, it seems like the perfect

(01:04:22):
tournament for India to go and win in the right conditions.
The pitchers were perfect for spin, pretty difficult to bed
on and they what do you know, they didn't lose
an entire game throughout the tournament. Great to see Varrat
Coley do what he did and what turned out to
be his last t twenty game Rowhit Sharma win as well.
But it certainly seemed perfect for India to go and
win that tournament, and it proved to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
I've got to talk about the Warriors in a moment,
guy have led Andrew Sevil twelve past eight The Mic
Hosking Breakfast You Just Talk to be fifteen past eight.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mic Hosking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Breakfast, iavel Andrew several whethers Andrew the Warriors, how good?
You're very good, Mike.

Speaker 24 (01:05:06):
Let's put it in the context though, Brisbane missing the
State of Origin players and a couple of other key
players and how Weaver all suspended. However, at certain stages
during the season, the Warriors have been missing half a team.
So you take these wins, yep. And it was an
outstanding performance, I thought, especially after that hiding on the

(01:05:26):
Gold Coast and their key players stood up and to
Marie Martin and Chanel, we're outstanding in the halves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Outstanding, Yeah, probably to Marie Martin, now is you're going
to raise it?

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Guy?

Speaker 12 (01:05:39):
I know?

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Is what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Because you can't ignore him, can you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:05:43):
And I think you've got to leave him in. He's
played very well over the last few weeks when he
has been in the team, and so I think he
deserves to keep his place. How many teams would go
from losing by sixty points to then playing like that
in the very next week, and also on that, how
many teams would go from losing by sixty points to
then playing in front of us old out home crowd.
And that speaks to the following that this team has

(01:06:05):
managed to gain through both their performances and the way
they're kind of interacting with the public as well. I
think they've They've got the people on a ride, and
no matter what happens after a sixty point drubbing, people
don't want to get off it. I just read an
excerpt from a piece from Scotty Stevenson on our one
News website as well, which spoke about the DNA of
this team and that Andrew Webster's managed to formulate over

(01:06:29):
the last couple of years, and I think he's dead right. Like,
there just seems to be a different dynamic to this
team that doesn't let them get bogged down by heavy
losses that they have. And even in that game in
the weekend, you could see in the first two sets
of that game how markedly different their attitude was compared
to the week before. It it didn't take even that long.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
The problem with that, though, is it doesn't explain when
it all goes wrong. Does it say no, that's true.
I mean putting it right's fine, that's good, that's a skill.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
But finding myself on that whole the way we did
the week before is the reason that we're not going
to the competition.

Speaker 24 (01:07:04):
That we're over to the GC with the head space
that the Titans will last at that point in time
and they wouldn't have to do much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
But you know, fifteen minutes getting thrashed, you should do
something about it.

Speaker 21 (01:07:15):
But it felt like energy, It felt like a mindset
thing because, as I say, you could tell if you
watch the first two sets from that game against you
compare it to the first two sets in the game
against the Broncos. It is such a marked difference. I
don't know why they have a different mindset turning up

(01:07:35):
in a week, but I'm telling you that that had
something to do with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah, I agree, Explain to me seven. It's not your fault.
But I'm reading yesterday that no one's covering Wimbledon. There's
no television coverage wimbled unless you go to some sort
of weird app. What's what's gone wrong there?

Speaker 25 (01:07:49):
Now?

Speaker 24 (01:07:49):
I think we've got finals, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
You got finals, But you know what happens, this is Wimbledon.

Speaker 24 (01:07:54):
I would imagine it comes down to not only money, Well,
money is the key, but the timing of a lot
of the matches are during the night, and do you
fork out for matches that a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Well, so the de France and that well so the
euro see each.

Speaker 24 (01:08:13):
Other seven o'clock in the morning. I'm watching Spain foodr
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Yeah, I don't know, it's it's just a weird I mean,
I'm sort of a free market here and if you
don't want to buy, but there's a I just wonder
if there's a social license thing here. And this way
you have anti stiphing legislation in places like Australia, is
that there's an expectation that certain events and I think
Wimbledon would fall into it, that must be available to
the wider public. And if you're going to have a

(01:08:39):
free market whereby you know, you can bet or not bid,
whatever the case may be, then something's gone wrong with
the marketplace, hasn't it mean?

Speaker 24 (01:08:46):
But Mat I also think look, and you'll strike back
and say, oh, well, you cover other stuff that that
doesn't have megastars. But tennis is fast losing a lot
of its luster without Federer, without Nadal and only Djokovic
on one leg at the monument, and women's tennis doesn't
have superstars, and I think the game's just on the That's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
A fair point for a debate that you and I
are having over a beer at a pub. But that's
like saying, well, look, Tiger is no longer playing golf,
so well, we won't cover the Masters this year, and
if we get somebody famous back who's a bit exciting,
then we will. That's sort of not how you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Do sport, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
In terms of coverage? I mean, Wimbledon is Wimbled and
the Masters the Masters. The Tour de France is the
Tour de France, and the Rugby World Cup is Rugby
World Cup. It gets covered.

Speaker 21 (01:09:30):
I think Anthony E Anti Siphoning point is a very
good one.

Speaker 27 (01:09:35):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:09:36):
I do feel like a lot of people in this
country probably miss out on some massive events purely because
there are no rules exactly, and I think that's a
real shame.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Well, you guys are entering into it now, because if
you want to get back into sport at TVNS at all,
that's fine and well. But up until now, sky, who
would I am assuming claim to be the home of
sport need to be? It's like banks and ripping people off,
isn't it. If you're the home of sport, got to
have some of the sport people expect, and Wimbledon would
be it. I mean, I get the snooker, fair enough,
Snookers is minor sport. I lose whippedy doo. Wimbledon is Wimbledon.

(01:10:08):
I mean, come on, I mean when we so all
that are.

Speaker 24 (01:10:11):
The ones the sky is, the ones with the mulah mic?
So why aren't they.

Speaker 15 (01:10:14):
Putting it off?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Well, because they've clearly decided it's not worth it, And
that's what I want to know. It seems it seems
so random, the decision that you've looked at that and gone,
my god, it's so expensive. Or I don't think you
can literally say that no one's watching. I think that
would be unfair and untrue. But maybe you've gone the
other money Semer. I don't know. Anyway, up upshot is
it's not on and there's something wrong with that. Now

(01:10:38):
you ready?

Speaker 23 (01:10:40):
Yep?

Speaker 21 (01:10:40):
I do agree. Tennis TV is how you can watch
it if people do want to watch it. Think it's
about I think.

Speaker 24 (01:10:45):
Over the last few years, Mike, that it's chopped and
changed on different network. It has and and again I
think a lot of it comes back, not only the money,
but the time of the of the of the timing
of the matches through the night.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Good to see you guys, catch up next Monday, precire
very much, Andrew Sevil, Guyhavel, It is a twenty two
The Myke.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Hosking Breakfast, We're the Parter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
News Talk your SONGSBA twenty four. The French Open was
on Sky, Mike, thanks for bringing it up, Mike. Wimbledon disgraceful.
Not so well. See it isn't disgraceful. I mean Sky
are a company you either buy into or you don't.
They offer a service, you pay for it, you don't.
Your choice. At the end of the day, there's nothing
disgraceful about it. They're allowed to make their decisions. Have
they made a strategic mistake? Can they defend it? Why

(01:11:28):
does it always have to be Sky? Why can't it
be TB and Z Well, because TV and ZI of
course don't have any money. They've got less than no money.
They're laying people off, news Hubber closing down at the
end of the week, TV three, Discovery, They're not into sport,
and so suddenly you're looking at the parlor state of
the New Zealand, in this case visual media. And therefore,
is there a social license around somebody like Sky who

(01:11:49):
would claim to be the home of sport and your
expectation is that they would be presenting sport events that
you would expect them to present.

Speaker 15 (01:11:59):
Could we go over, I'll take my Samsung.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Oh yeah, just po podcaster.

Speaker 15 (01:12:06):
We might have to say intelligent things about who's playing
and see it's strawberries and cream.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
It could be boxing. For example, we had Joseph Parker
here the other day. Now there on is it designed
daz design dezone de zone out of Saudi Arabia, and
so you can't get boxing anymore unless you've got to zone.
Increasingly in America, in the NFL, they're splitting up the
NFL like there's no tomorrow, and they're making a fortune
doing it. But you know people aren't. Netflix have gone
aboard a couple of games on Christmas Day and they've

(01:12:32):
paid hundreds of millions of dollars to do it. And
if you don't have Netflix, you won't be watching that
particular NFL. And then they split it off to other
networks and streaming networks, and then you've got local broadcasters,
you've got national broadcasters. And it seems to me that
obviously the answer is apps. And if you're into apps,
and you buy into all your apps, and you've got
a million different sorts of apps. Then fantastic. You can
watch anything anywhere, anytime, which in and of itself is

(01:12:53):
a model is probably where the world goes. So you
can you can select what you want. You don't have
to have a one stop shop service like Sky anymore
because you don't watch you know, I mean, what would
you watch of their sport? Ten percent of it? Maybe
I was watching a little bit of AFL yesterday. How
many people watch the AFL. No one watches the AFL
in this country, and yet there's live game after live

(01:13:15):
game after live game. Obviously they get it for next
to nothing. But the anti siphoning is more about free
to air access and they have it in places like
Britain and Australia. In other words, it must be free
to everybody, and so the BBC and Channel nine or
Channel seven and the Melbourne Cup is a good example.
In Australia it must go to a free to air partner.

(01:13:35):
Anyone can buy it, but you then have to offload
it through to a free to wear partner so somebody
doesn't have to pay for it. We've had this debate before,
we probably won't have it again. It is what it is,
but it does seem to me that the market is failing.
If something as big as Wimbledon is not shown and
you can't see it, that seems to be something too weird. Anyway,

(01:13:58):
NewsPage in a couple of moments speaking of Australian Steve
Price is standing by your reviews talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
The Mic Hosking.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Breakfast with a Veda Live the age you feel news
talk EDB.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Could it be the market's actually working perfectly fine and
there's just a few rivals on Wimbledon. The network's realize
it's not a bad point. It's entirely possible. Supreme Court
have been active last week and they're coming down with
the immunity verdict tomorrow. I don't in my wild as
dreams see them backing Trump with his immunity case, but
we'll wait until tomorrow for that. But what they did

(01:14:35):
do is that they ruled last week on federal prosecutors
arguing they overreached when using an obstruction law to charge
hundreds of Jan six rioters. It's also going to affect
Trump's case to some degree. Obstruction charges must include proof
that defendants tried to tamper with or destroyed documents. More
than three hundred and fifty people, of course, been charged
with obstructing Congress's business. So the law that prosecutors used

(01:14:58):
was passed in two thousand and two after the Enron scandal.
It's the Sabines Oxley Act. It outlines criminal penalties for
anyone who alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document,
or other object. And another clause includes anyone who otherwise obstructs, influences,
or impedes any official proceeding. So the opinion was six
y three. It was, and this is the important part.

(01:15:19):
It cut across the ideological lines of the Supreme Court,
So it wasn't just right b left. It ruled that
the law should be interpreted relatively narrowly and used only
against defendants who tampered with documents. So because you raided
the place and said where's Nancy didn't mean you touched anything.
And on that, they don't know what to do with

(01:15:40):
all of the others, and there have been many. About
twenty five percent of the Capital riot defendants were prosecuted
under that law. The vast majority of the more than
fourteen hundred charge for their illegal actions on jan six
will not be affected by this decision. This is Merrick
galand trying to dig himself out of a hole. But
there are many people who will be able to use
this decision, so that's important in and of itself. And

(01:16:01):
then we come to tomorrow and their call then, so
we'll look forward to seeing what happens. Twenty one minutes
away from nine.

Speaker 17 (01:16:07):
International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Twenty three Fright have you? Monday morning?

Speaker 27 (01:16:15):
Good morning?

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
What'll we make is this morning's poll?

Speaker 27 (01:16:18):
Well, it's taken over the last three weeks Newspot in
Australian and all you can say is that the crazy,
brave nuclear policy of Peter Dutton has had its first
gent put in it. But I'm not sure the coalition
would be all that worried. A were probably at minimum
two months away from an election at most maybe even ten,

(01:16:40):
and so for this to soak into people and get
them to have a real opinion, it's going to take
a little bit of time. But it has had an impact.
Coalitions down three points to thirty six for their primary vote.
That's happened over the last three weeks Labor down one
to thirty two. Now you'd say, well, coalition's still in front.
But of course with our system you have preferential voting

(01:17:01):
and the Greens preferences all end up in Labour's basket,
and the Greens have had a boost in this pole.
On the nuclear plane itself, it's interesting. It's very evenly divided.
Forty two percent of people polls say yes, forty five
percent no, thirteen have got no idea, and it's divided
along sexual lines as well, more men than women fifty

(01:17:22):
four to fifty one, and two party preferred. That now
sees the Labor Party back in front fifty one to
forty nine. Now, given what I'm about to tell you
about tax cuts and so on, Labour would feel pretty
buoyed by this pole. They see their primary votes still
too low, but they know that they'll get those Green preferences,

(01:17:43):
and if they do that, you're probably either going to
have a minority Labor government with support of independence, or
you're going to have a slim majority. So I think
Anthony Albdiz, you'd wake up today, Mike, can he be
pretty happy?

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
How would you describe your Green Party? Where our Green
Party here are radicals in no particularly pro environment they
say they are, of course, but they're sort of you know,
pro Palestine and all the other issues of the day.
Are you're a lot green or not?

Speaker 27 (01:18:08):
Exactly the same as yours?

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Right?

Speaker 27 (01:18:09):
They are now inner city agitators from the socialist left
to just carry on about any of these sorts of
radical ideas that they can, legalizing drugs and all those
sorts of things. We haven't had a Green's leader since
Bob Brown that cared about a tree.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
How much tax are you getting?

Speaker 8 (01:18:32):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
It was the third trund personally or the well, I
mean just generally is I mean, we had tax cuts
the other day and they come in today here and
it's anywhere between about four and eighteen dollars.

Speaker 27 (01:18:43):
About thirty six dollars a week if you're on or
eighteen hundred and eighty eight dollars a year. That's the
average tax cut. So obviously some people get more, some less.
It would have been a lot different under the original
plan stage who meant that one of the tax brackets
was going to disappear, and that would have meant higher
tax decreases for people on higher incomes labor shell that

(01:19:05):
look every dollar counts when you've got inflation running at
four percent. That figure out last week, and so people
will be happy about it because people have been going
backwards now for the last two years. There's also energy
bill relief that kicks in today. Non means tested because
Jim Chalmers told us during the budget that that was
too complicated, So everyone will get it, and that means

(01:19:28):
you'll get seventy five dollars a quarter off your electricity
bill for this financial year. So that comes you don't
get the cash, it comes off your energy bill, taken
off by your energy provider. So the headline today is
that you've got tax cuts for everyone. Labor will be
out there selling it, and then we're going to make
your electricity cheaper, not as cheap as they promise them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
No, let me mount this argument. I thought the Dunton
nuclear number was good because I mean, in our country
we had we're anting nuclear and all that, and I
think that's slowly but surely changing and we're never going
to go in nuclear, so sort of it's a debate
we're never going to have. But to land something at
forty two as having approval, there would have been a
time correct me if I'm wrong. Not that long ago

(01:20:11):
where people would have gone your nuts, go away, what
a radical, and you'd get nowhere near forty two to
land forty two means you're in the conversation, isn't it.

Speaker 27 (01:20:20):
Yeah, I think your assessment's absolutely correct. And you know,
when you look at a news pole, you've got to
look at it and go, well, you know, it's a
small sample of people across three weeks. I think I
don't know if it's the people i'd mix with, but
I think a lot of people out in the general
public go well, I don't care how you give you
make my lights stay on, just do it. And I

(01:20:41):
don't give rats whether it's from gas or from solar
or wind farms. You know, I just want cheaper electricity.
And that's particularly the case for small business who their
energy bills, particularly their gas bills are just through the route.
So people haven't embraced it, but they're not running around
saying this is going to turn fish in my fish

(01:21:03):
tank insustrey eyed monsters.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
That's not okay exactly. The labor senator who's been suspended,
where does this go? What happens next?

Speaker 27 (01:21:11):
Well, she got dragged into down to the lodge yesterday
on a Sunday, which was a little unusually. Her name's
Fatimah Payment. She's a senator out of wa. She crossed
the floor last week, breaking the party's tradition of caucus solidarity.
And so in Labor what happens here, I presum it's
the same in New Zealand. If you're a member of
the Labor Party in parliament, senator or lower House, you

(01:21:33):
have to all vote the same way. You can't on
principle across the floor, which is very different to the
Liberal Party in Australia, where.

Speaker 4 (01:21:40):
You can do that.

Speaker 27 (01:21:42):
So she was told she couldn't come to one caucus meeting.
And then Alberizi realized that he really needed to be
tougher on this because he's been seen as a week leader.
This is all about his leadership, not so much about her.
So he dragged her into the lodge yesterday and said, look,
you're not allowed to now ten caucus at all. You're
going to be suspended indefinitely because she threatened to cross

(01:22:04):
the floor again if it came up again. This is
all about the Palestinian state, and so she's been told
that she would vote with the Green. She says if
the party followed through the threat to push the motion
calling the Senate to immediately recognize Palestine. So he said,
you're out, but you're not out of the party. So
he hasn't done, ultimately what Labour leaders of the past

(01:22:24):
have done and said if you don't vote with us,
you're out. He's just said she can sit in the House,
but she can't attend caucus meetings.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Always a pleasure, mate. We'll see your Wednesday. Steve Price
out of Australia eight forty five already the make hockey
racers in fact, AMO, which is the Australian Energy market Operator,
sort of backing up what Steve was saying in terms
of everyone, everyone wants to save the planet with power.
If you can do it, terrific. If you can't, let's
go back to something we know works. And so they

(01:22:53):
said the East Coast over the weekend, East Coast of
Australia is going to need thirteen gigawatts of new gas
fight electricity generation, the equivalent of twin six new gas plants.
How many it they built one, so they're short. There's
a massive gas gap there. High stakes challenge for Elbow
just the one gas plant completed in the last ten years.
One more in development, but that's it, and so he

(01:23:15):
can't keep the lights on in a reliable fashion. So
there's some ankst around that. Bruce Luhman, he was ordered
to pay two million dollars to Channel ten and legal costs.
Does he have two million dollars?

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
No, so what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
And Channel nine we talked about Channel seven laying off
I think it was one hundred and fifty. Last week
Channel nine announced they're laying off two hundred. So and
they're sort of in the midst of that whole media bargaining.
Do we get metaur, Google et cetera to pay something,
can we cut a deal with them? When the deal collapses,
do they go away? Do they turn off their service?
So they're having that little anks forrid an exercise at
the moment. It's very good piece read over the weekend,

(01:23:50):
by the way, and it was well worth reading because
I'd completely forgotten about the link of Sange. Of course,
who's back in Australia still have hasn't said anything. He
all stitched up a deal. The biggest where the real
winner out of the arched freedom from prison question mark
Pamela Anderson remember heard used to take the sandwiches in
the drink, and of course, as sort of as a
result of that, what happened was that she became kind

(01:24:11):
of back in the public eye. Element notoriety move to Vancouver.
Netflix came along and said, I don't tell you what,
we can probably make a television program about you in
a documentary. We had her on the program. She turned
out to be a fantastically likable, likable person. So she's
gone on to resurrect her whole career slash PERSONA good
on her nine minutes away from nine on my.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Cost Gil breakfast it is with januine news, Tom sevb.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I know also over the weekend that mister Caterris, who
leads the United Nations, has announced that only seventeen percent
one seven percent of the one hundred and sixty nine
targets to improve life of the world's more than seven
billion people are on track to be reached by the
goal of twenty thirty. And this is the danger, of course,
of signing up to things like the Paris Accord and
the Paris Agreement. When you gathered in a room and

(01:24:57):
you find business or first class around the world, staying
in an ice hotel and you've all jollyged yourselves up,
and the deadline's coming and you're all fizzing with excitement
and anticipation. You sign anything, and the next thing you know,
you've got to actually, you know, I don't know, deliver it,
and of course you work out you can't. It shows
the world as getting a failing grade. What a surprise.
They adopted seventeen World leaders. This is seventeen wide ranging

(01:25:20):
development goals, from ending global poverty to achieving gender equality.
They did this back in twenty fifteen. They set one
hundred and sixty nine specific targets to be reached by
the end of the decade. Half the targets show minimal
or moderate progress. A third of the targets are either
going literally nowhere or backwards, just seventeen percent or on

(01:25:44):
track to be achieved. So you know, what do you
do this weekend? Oh, I'll tell you what. I'm solving poverty?
Global poverty. We sign a bit of paper and adds
who imagine leading the You've got a question whether it's
actually worth belonging to in the sense that the counter
argument is the alternative, and I suppose the answer is nothing.
But the more you look at the un.

Speaker 15 (01:26:06):
I guess on a global scale. See it's a lot.
You're it's better than nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
That that mathematically is correct. Welcome back, five minutes away
from nine trending.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Now well Chemist Wells the home of big brand ftamens.

Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
It's better than nothing. Words to live.

Speaker 15 (01:26:26):
By, measure, it's my whole philosophy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Measures to run your business by.

Speaker 15 (01:26:31):
It's my bio. It is Glenn is a picture of
me and underneath better than nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
It's better than nothing.

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
Trending now with a chemist Wese keeping Kiwi's healthy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:42):
All year out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Oh Blesto has been a bus to tell you what.
They've had sound problems up and down all over the
place this weekend. A lot of complaints about that. Du
a Leaper has been accused more than once of lip syncing.
She claims she doesn't lip sync. We had Shanaia Twain,
she had sound problems. Avril Levine wading for scissor to
close the festival s a scissor, and then we had Russell.

Speaker 15 (01:27:06):
That's right, it makes you sound. I'm much cooler in you,
so when you spell it s.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
A I'm so cool. It's better than nothing, Glenn, I mean,
come on, Russell Crowe. He had a set, So the
review is what the reviews say about Russell Crowe. Either
he was brilliantly bonkers, shockingly good or a droll delivery.
One of the big draw cards was Coldplay and they
had Michael J. Fox on stage and that really was

(01:27:31):
worth that's worth looking up. If you missed that anyway,
you got to hit the notes, you got to do
the song justice. It's Chris Martin. You have girl friends
watching one too. Bubbla does sound better a good drunk.

Speaker 15 (01:28:17):
Maybe some things aren't better than nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Actually maybe they aren't. And that's I couldn't work it out.
And look at the video to see. They claim they're
only in the band because of Michael J. Fox and
Michael J. Fox playing the guitar in the movie, and
they were in the band.

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
People cried.

Speaker 15 (01:28:38):
Apparently John Mayer started playing the guitar because of Michael J.
Fox and Back to the Future. That in the podcast
over the weekend, Better.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Than Nothing, Back Tomorrow, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
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