Full Show Podcast: 10 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honest facts.
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, Finding the
buyers others can't use, togs, D.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
B Bning and Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Today the Golden Visa and whether ed will bring money
and growth. Speaking of money, our apples and pears have
crashed through the billion dollar income barrier for the first time.
We got the cooks and the China deal. How ugly
things have got? Are the lads in the commentary box?
After late Richard Arnold, Steve Price in from off shore
as well Pard skiing into a brand new week seven
past six Prime Minister speech yesterday afternoon to what I
assume was a business audience. I couldn't see it as

(00:33):
I watched it live. It was well received. As my point,
another piece of tangible evidence that we are at last
trying to get this place moving economically again. The Nomad
Visa Digital Nomad announcement the other day was of a
similar vein but a mile to late sixty plus countries
of course have a similar scheme already. And to be honest,
if you're on holiday, think about this, I meaning you
open your laptop right are you a visitor or are

(00:54):
you a digital nomad? Yesterday's Golden visa is not a
minute too soon for a couple of reasons. One the
settings from the last government bordering on an economic crime.
Prior to COVID, investors brought in money to the value
of billions post the changes made by Labor. The Prime
Minister told us it was about seventy million. It's a joke.
It's almost as though they hated being successful. Two simplified

(01:15):
categories if you've missed it, five million over three years
for a risk year investment, ten million over five for
a safer one and two. The other reason we needed
to move is that it's likely Peter Dutton in Australia
is going to reintroduce the Golden visa. There little of
any requirements outside the money he stands, of course, AHAs
decent chance on being the Prime Minister in a couple
of months time. We simply have to be competitive, which

(01:37):
is why we have also dropped the language test, not
as the Prime Minister point it out, because no one
can speak English because they can. It's because we look
arrogant and childlike in making people who want to improve
the country sit a test. This isn't school, it's real
world business. The next move, and given our talk with
Winston Peters on the program Friday, I am convinced the
speculation that his rife is right. The next step is housing.

(01:59):
Not everyone one who invests once or needs to live here.
But the Prime Minister's speech contained the thought that once
you take the plunge, opportunities arise. It might be you
like the place. It might be you have more money,
more ideas. It might be you want to hang around
for a while. To do that, you need to buy
a house. The foreign band then becomes absurd. Stand by
for the change to that policy, and like these other moves,

(02:21):
not a moment too soon.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
What news of the world. In ninety second.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Hostage releases over the weekend as the guards of deal
holds not getting the attention some have. Thai farm workers
were released about a month ago. They finally made it
home over the weekend.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Hey, we are all very grateful and very happy that
we get to return to our homeland. We all would
really like to thank you. I don't really know what
else to say.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
The Israelis have praised for Trump in ongoing talks over
the police.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Y secerely thank President Trump from bringing about this deal
and hopefully pushing forward so that we can bring the
deal to a completion.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
We're there, Envice Steve Whitkoff.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Speaking of Trump, he did old Hezze a favor.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
When asked about would he intervene in Harry's case, he said,
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
I'll leave him alone. He's got enough problems with his wife.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
She's terrible.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Old. Here's a knowing he's safe in Montecito for the
foreseeable was actually in Kenada opening his games.

Speaker 8 (03:20):
At this moment, when there is no shortage of crises,
no lack of weak moral character in the world, the
values you embody, your humanity illuminate a path.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Forward for us all makes it a reasonable point. Then,
in Britain, some more inexplicable government Minister of Behavior what
it called Andrew Gwyn, who was the Health Minister, decided
to be sixist about Angela Rayner, racist about Dian Ebbott
and one of his constituents died.

Speaker 9 (03:48):
In one of mister Gwyn's tweets, he refers to a
constituent as being too Jewish, and that really does suggest
that just beneath the surface that with Senior labor politicians.
There may still be a very serious problem with anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Starmer not left with a lot of options other than
basically the second, which the Housing Minister's fully on board with.

Speaker 10 (04:09):
He's been suspended from the from the labor whip. There's
an administrative suspension from the party as well. I don't
think if there's anything more decisive we could have done
in response and as quickly as we have that in
response to this situation.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Gwynosent's decided is full of regret. Finally, airline Ratings dot
Com have announced the BFDIR line as a year it
goes to the core Regionaire credited as number one for
the extra lid room and commitment to passenger comfort, Kaitar
second in New Zealand, Third, Cafe Pacific and Singapore rounding
up the top pass use the world. Amazing job numbers

(04:42):
in America much anticipation as always these the non farms
will give you the number, but a little bit light
and China a mixed picture here because we're desperate for
them to go well. The consumer inflation accelerated at its
fastest pace than five months, but producer prise deflation persisted,
So I don't know where we're at there, twelve minutes

(05:02):
past six.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
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Speaker 3 (05:10):
Talks, Central Bank News. The Indian Central Bank cut is
the significant yesters, they haven't done anything like that for
nearly five years. So they've reduced their repo rate from
six point five two six two five fourteen past now
for eleven funds management, there's month they're not in Greg
Smith Morning to You, Morning to Mike. So the number

(05:32):
itself job wise a little bit light. So where's all
this lead the Fed?

Speaker 11 (05:36):
Yeah, probably leaves the Fed on hold for now. Ould
have thought. So it's a bit of a bit of
a mixed bag. Market's now, so saying fifty to fifty
chance for rate cut in June. So yeah, job creash loan,
Expected's largest economy pears to be slowing down a ted.
So you look at the non farm paroles up one
hundred and forty three thousand, so that it was less than
half of what we saw in December. It was the

(05:57):
live forecasts as well, Job Grave concentrating health care, retail
government usual suspects there. But on the brighter side, there
were upper revisions to the counts of December and November,
so they were revised upwards by total of one hundred thousand.
And you look at the unemployment rate, might that actually
went down to four percent? So yeah, the population participation
in terms of labor forces actually increasing. This that's good news.

(06:20):
Wages also raised more expected, so four point one percent
on an annualized basis. So well, you know, parts of
the jobs print was soft. Wasn't a disaster. I mean, overall,
you look at the jobs market, it seems in pretty
good shape. So I think that won't compel the FED
to rush to cut rates in the next few months.
Me and it was interesting the Trump administration. They see
the job numbers were a poor reflection on Biden the presidency.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
There's also some other data.

Speaker 11 (06:43):
They look at the numbers for the year end in
March twenty twenty four and they were revised down by
almost six hundred thousand. All the officials and neglected to
mention there was a similar downward revision during Trump's first
term in pre COVID.

Speaker 12 (06:55):
But he.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Amazon So the number, as I thought, looked reasonable. But
the gidance isn't the shoe, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (07:04):
Yeah, that's right. So the numbers on the face that
we're strong. So sales for wealth fullth I just coumpany
the one hundred and a seven point eight billionaire they
had need income they had almost double to twenty billion.
Are actually also of course cutting costs, and then you
know they're simming down their workforce post COVID and all
that sort of stuff. Online visits doing pretty well, so
that's obviously good barometer for the air market. Generally. They

(07:26):
are the third biggest platform in the global digital advertising markets.
So revenues there eighty eight percent. Cloud computing service, you
know that did pretty well. Revenues up nineteen percent, twenty
eight point eight billion, and investing around about a one
hundred million, she'd have turned itself into an AI supermarket.
But they want They did warn a couple of things.
Actually might have said they could be capesite constraints due

(07:46):
to power CAPESI we've heard that before end the supply chips,
but it was mainly about the guidance, as you said,
and the shoes actually fell four percent, So they reckon
revenue growth in the first quarter is going to be
five to nine percent. That would actually be the slowest
onre in their twenty eight year history in the public market,
it seems as strong US dollars to blame. They reckon
there's going to be foreign exchange impacts of two point

(08:08):
one billion. That's all about converting the money down overseas
back into the US dollars. The US dollars, it's highest
level in two years, larger in the back of Trump
coming in, and it's a bit of a head win
for other teach companies as well. Might So you look
at Amazon, twenty three percent of their selves are offshore,
but Apple, Meta Alphabet, Microsoft and Tesla all in at

(08:29):
least half of their revenue from overseas. So you think
this could be something to watch in particular, inflation persists
and the FED holds off cutting rates even further, maybe
towards the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Now I read this yesterday and it's as much as
you don't want to believe that the numbers don't lie.
Every time Philadelphia wins anything, and they're in the super
Bowl today, it's ugly.

Speaker 11 (08:49):
Yeah, it depends on whether your superstitious. So we're talking
also about the baseball and any sort of team involving Philadelphia,
so historically that you know their wins have coincided with
some pretty bad stuff. So we have the nineteen twenty
nine stock market crash, we have quite a few recessions
nearly nineteen hundreds, and then the Eagles they won their
first Super Bowl and twenty eighteen, so that's a course

(09:10):
of celebration where you're not for the stock markets.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
They actually had their worst.

Speaker 11 (09:14):
Year since two thousand and eight, So it depends on
whether you're superstitious, and I guess they might. For the record,
you probably know this Kansas City JEPS.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
A slight favorite.

Speaker 11 (09:24):
There's some pretty cool other stets around as well. If
you look at and talk about advertising, eight million bucks
of commercial that's what some companies are paying. Some pretty
cool adds a bit of a I think to look
at in themselves. Evidently Seal he's going to be promoting
Mountain dew of all things. Last year we had more
than one hundred and twenty three million people turn in
the ruvy andw rooms five hundred and fifty million dollars.

(09:46):
So you advertising for big sports events are still going
pretty pretty much gangbusters. And another notable fact about the
Set Bowl, Mike Donald Trump will be in attendance. Evidently,
first time a sitting president will attend and.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Where a statistic I've never heard. It seems incomprehensible that
if you're the president of the day, you're not at
the super Bowl, But there you go. What are the numbers?

Speaker 11 (10:05):
Yeah, exactly, Hey, So that the US markets were a
bit lower on the on that job's read. So that
now I was down one percent forty four to three
zero three s and P five hundred that was down
one percent as well, six zero two five. Nare's dock
down one point four percent, nineteen five to two three
foot see down point three percent in the UK, Nicko
down point seven percent. ASEX two hundred was actually down
point one percent eighty five one one under the Domino's

(10:27):
Pizza that's is twenty one percent higher. Though I shutting
under performing stores. In Japan, we had a good day.
Insidy's fifty up half percent, twelve nine zero two go
On up five bucks, twenty eight hundred and sixty one
ouncets around a record oil seventy one dollars a barow
up percenty nine cents. Currency markets Q was weaking around
to the US fifty six point six ozsie dollar ninety

(10:48):
point two down slightly. We're up against Stirling slightly forty
five point seven this week, Mike, plenty going on. Likely,
we've got cards spending, we've got a manufacturer of sector print,
we've got food inflation, we've got earning some we can
steal and scalur up off shore, get use inflation, UK
GDP and plenty of results of a McDonald's, Coca Cola,
Sony Honda and cross the Tasman JB High fight and

(11:11):
com off Bank of Australia. So plenty going on, and
it's say go to the.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Chiefs, all right, fair enough and lucky. We got a
five day week to deal with it or go well, mate,
Greg Smith, Devon Funds Management auction over the weekend in Britain.
Harry Potter first edition. It was found in a garage.
It was destined for the bin, but NBA Auctions got
hold of it. The first edition of Harry Potter and
the Philosopher's Stone. How do you know it's a first edition?

(11:37):
They misspelled philosopher went four forty two thousand dollars six
twenty one. Yourritt News Talk, said.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
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it by News Talks at.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
B didn't I speaking of Trump. He didn't end the
war on day one like he promised, but he was
never going to. Obviously he's spoken. Trump has spoken with Putin.
He said on Air Force one, he did not tell
you what it was about, but nevertheless he's spoken with him. Meantime,
you might have seen the interview over the weekend Zelensky
gave in which he started talking about security guarantees. Wants
to do a deal. Security guarantees is code for I

(12:16):
don't have to join NATO because there's no way that
Russia and America are going to let them join NATO
because that's whole purpose of the war. Blah blah blah.
So if America gives Zelensky security guarantees, Zelenski will cough
up the rare earth deposits that they hold to the Americans,
so Trump can build chips and cars, give them security.

(12:37):
Putin holds on to the areas he's got hold of.
And I think that's how it's going to unfold over
the next couple of months. Watch this Space six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
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Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yes, Super Bowl Sunday, a lot of stuff will be
talked about over the day, but it's already this is
already going off. So we've got ESPN host and Football
Hall of Famous Shannon Sharp and his brother Sterling. Now,
a lot of people think Sterling has consistently been overlooked
for the Hall of Fame. He played for a number
of years for Green Bay. This is many years ago. Anyway,
Shannon even said so in his Hall of Fame speech
back in twenty eleven.

Speaker 13 (13:10):
I'm the only player they can honestly say this. I'm
the only pro football player that's in the Hall of Fame,
and I'm the second best player in my own family.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
So what a day Shannon gets to give his brother
the news today invites of my ovidues wearing his Hall of
Fame jacket.

Speaker 14 (13:28):
So we get essentially about nine hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
That's how got going over here.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Welcome bro to your to your house.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 15 (13:54):
This is something Oh wow said, this.

Speaker 13 (14:05):
Is crazy to have this moment, and I've had some
great moments in my professional life.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
This at the proudest moment in my life. That's how
I felt when you went in. That's nice say only
Brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame Richard Arnold
with more on the Super Bowl in the next half
hour of the program. By the way, if you're looking
to get your gold out, two main places in the
world store gold. Gold's gone off, as you well aware.
At the moment, a Bank of England holds a lot
of it. In fact, it holds four hundred thousand gold bars,

(14:31):
so that's worth billions. And of course New York's the
other one. If you want to get your gold out
at the moment from the Bank of England, as literally
take your gold out, you can't because all slots are
booked for weeks in advance as people panic about the
tariffs and go hmm, I wouldn't mind moving the gold
out of London and into New York. Why because gold
trades it more in New York than it does at

(14:54):
the moment in London. Postage would be quite something. I
would have thought getting your gold across the Atlantic. But
the if you got gold, you probably don't worry about
that stuff. News for you in a couple of.

Speaker 16 (15:04):
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
We've brought a catching up with Steve lader on this
morning out of Australia too. By elections and Victoria over
the weekend, the Coalition, it's entirely possible, will win both.
As the significant you bet it is Paran, which is
an inner city sort of suburb, fairly trendy, has been
a green seat. They've lost it, coalition picked it up.
Of more importance is Wiriby, which they're still battling over

(15:36):
this morning. They're going to do some scrutineering. Entirely possible
the Coalition will get that off Labor. To get it
off labor is massive because it's a huge swing. So
the question is was it a swing against Labor and
Victoria and Dan Andrews dissenter Allen or is it a
swing against Elbanesi And if it's the latter, that's trouble
for the federal election. Twenty three minutes away from seven

(15:58):
Musk judges caught USA those four more years of this
rigid anald with the latest update for you shortly meantime.
A lot of back and forth over the weekend is
our relationship with the Cook Islands looks increasingly messy, doesn't
their pms in China of course, to sign some sort
of cooperation deal. Our Foreign minister ropable that he wasn't
in the loop. The Cook's leader of the opposition, Tina Brown,

(16:19):
is with us. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (16:22):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
How much disquiet is there?

Speaker 17 (16:26):
Oh, the country is reacting in a way that I've
never seen before. And you know, we've we thought that
things worth calming down, but actually they're not. That they're escalating.
The most recent release from the spokesperson for the Deputy

(16:49):
Prime Minister of New Zealand is completely different to the
release by our Prime minister on Friday.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Is it possible mister Brown will come back from China
on a couple of days with the deal that everyone
looks at and goes, my word, that's good news and
it all settles down.

Speaker 17 (17:07):
Well, it is possible, but I have to say that
I'm not showing that to us before signing it up.
Must be a concern. It is very possible that it'll
come back and and everything in there is what he
says it is, but it's also very possible that it isn't,

(17:30):
and of course we can't unravel it.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Then what's the argument what's the suspicion around him not
giving details before he goes Well, I.

Speaker 17 (17:39):
Can only conclude that if it was okay, well why
not consult? Why not share it with New Zealand? Why
not consult with New Zealand If it's okay? There are
a few of us that are There are two other
lawyers in Parliament, myself and the Minister of Foreign Affairs.
What's wrong and sharing so that we can all participate

(18:02):
in something that he reckons is going to be beneficial
to our public in the future. So what's wrong with
doing that?

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, I'm sure you've got the diplomacy side of it.
Is there an anti China thing in this at all?
Locally in the coxs or not?

Speaker 17 (18:17):
There is some looking at the way that China is
performing in other Pacific islands like Pity and Solomon. I
think there is some fear that we would end up
in the same boat.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
So it's not to do with defense, he reassures us.
We assume we take him at his word. If it's
just about aid and help and money, is that necessarily
a bad thing?

Speaker 17 (18:42):
Well, no it's not, but it's it's I think one
needs to also have a look at the implications of
what happens then with having that as a starter and
then it grows into something.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
When did you back?

Speaker 17 (19:04):
I think he's still back on Friday for Parliament next Monday.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Okay, we'll stay in touch. Appreciate tenner. Go well, Tina Brown,
who's the Cook Islands leader of the opposition, nineteen minutes
away from seven pass covert offorite with the Prime Minister
tomorrow of course, very good piece of reading Kate McNamara
over the weekend if you missed it. This dubtails in
with Nicola Willis, who's whether us after seven thirty this
morning in the announcement yesterday. New Zealand doesn't need to
tell a growth story. It needs to be a growth
story and a number of the people and this is

(19:31):
an ongoing theme and you picked it up last week
in our conversation with the Prime Minister as she talks
to a number of people in this particular article about
announcements to one thing runs on the board of something
completely different. And this government increasingly looks like a talker,
not a doer, our headline grabber, not necessarily a deliverer.
And so that's well worth read. But anyway, Niicola Willis

(19:52):
with us after seven thirty, nineteen to.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
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Speaker 3 (20:01):
Every morning, at about three o'clock, I drive past the
International Convention Center, which of course will never open. It
looks a little bit different than it used to this morning.
I could have been fooled into thinking that it may
well one day open if I hadn't received the news
on Friday that it clearly isn't going to. It's been
delayed yet again by another three to six months. It
won't host a bench until twenty twenty six. They started

(20:22):
because these signs are up on the car park, so
there lit up. So if you see the sign, you
say there's car parking available. It looks almost like you
could go in there and park your car and then
take an elevator to somewhere within that building that might
offer you a service or a facility. It's got that
sort of delusion about it. They blame Fletchers, of course,

(20:43):
and so it goes. But it was started. If you
don't remember, it was started in eighteen thirty nine, and
it is possible it will be opened by twenty one
forty two.

Speaker 18 (20:53):
Do you reckon which would you peck first, CRL or
the Convention Center?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Which the end of the world. Oh yes, consider that
promp Third Presidency six forty.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
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mind for New Zealand business stay.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Stood, Richard Arnold Morning, Good Morning, made judges and courts
and Musk and Doze.

Speaker 19 (21:19):
Yes, Yes, Yes, Trump two point zero getting a positive
approval rating, however, and a new CBS poll out today
which gives Trump a fifty three percent favorability score for
doing what he said he would do. When it comes
down to details, that support and not so strong. I
few are backing the idea of taking over Gaza. They
are also very mixed feelings about the raid on the

(21:40):
US government by the richest man in the world, Elon Mask,
whose approach is to barrel in as fast as he
can before opposition and the courts can intervene flood the zone.
As they say, some sixty five thousand federal workers so
far have agreed to take retirement buy out. This is
a teeny tiny fraction, but Musk's mostly anonymous crew has
access down to at least ten in federal agencies, including

(22:02):
the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which is supposed to protect consumers,
was virtually shut down overnight, with workers told us stay home.
In response, the courts have begun to respond with some
forty lawsuits far now. However, the law, as we know,
moves slowly and often not very effectively in this land.
Trump is said to be agitated by the spotlight that

(22:22):
Elon is getting, including that Time magazine cover showing Elon
Musk sitting there he is behind the Presidential desk, the
resolute desk in the Oval Office. Trump said he is
not bothered by any of that yet. This is, of course,
the same Trump who made fake Time magazine covers to
her on the.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Walls of some of his golf courses.

Speaker 19 (22:40):
Trump was asked about Elon.

Speaker 20 (22:42):
Is there anything you've told Elon Musk he cannot touch?

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Well, we haven't discussed that much. I'll tell him to
go here, go there.

Speaker 17 (22:51):
He does it.

Speaker 21 (22:51):
He's got a very capable group of people, very very
very very capable.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
They know what they're doing.

Speaker 22 (22:58):
Aha.

Speaker 19 (22:59):
The person on the Musk team who got access to
the Treasury Central Payments system has just been reinstated after
a fhurl over the discovery of his racist social media
twenty five year old marco Eleez was found to a
post of things like quote you could not pay me
to marry outside my ethnicity end quote.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
He wrote.

Speaker 19 (23:17):
Also, quote I was racist before it was cool end quote.
Also normalized Indian hate end quote. That last one led
to I think a pretty bizarre exchange. Trump VP JD.
Vance is married to an Indian woman who had and
had an Indian wedding ceremony. Vance wrote, I obviously disagree
with some of Alezza's posts, but stupid social media should

(23:38):
not ruin a kid's life. This is one of the
very capable people the President speaks of. I guess Democratic
Congressman Roe Kenna, who is of Indian descent, asked Vance
if he would seek an apology from oles you discussed me,
Vance wrote to the lawmaker in response, so disgusted by that,
but not by the initial social media post. Meantime, another
in the Musk team is a nineteen year old called

(24:00):
Edward Corristine, who has a background as a computer hacker
and called himself online big balls.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (24:07):
Also, President Trump has signed now in executive order to
stop all aid to South Africa's punishment for what the
Trump team says were rights violations by South African government
against some of its white citizens. Trump is offering White
Africana's resettlement in the United States. One of their groups
has declined that offer because Elon Musk was born in
South Africa and Peter Teal, the tech bro who pushed

(24:30):
JD Vance into the political spotlight, also lived in South
Africa for a time. So Silicon Valley types who grew
up with the experience of South African apart eight and
the move to shift to a post aparthe eight regime, all.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of that on hold for now. Sunday Super Bowl Buffalo Wings.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Here we go.

Speaker 19 (24:47):
Yeah, always huge, and this time they're suggesting it could
be the biggest rating television event here. Ever, pretty likely.
It usually gets bigger and bigger year by year. Should
be a great game. The team rivals the Kansas City
Chiefs and the Philadelphia a thought by the experts to
be roughly on par with the Eagles, having perhaps the
strongest overall lineup, But the Chiefs, looking to their quarterback

(25:07):
Patrick Mahomes more dat thing.

Speaker 23 (25:09):
I just want to maximize the opportunity in that I
have here, and that's leaving everything I have in the
football field and just let it rely on my teammates
to go out and handle the rest.

Speaker 19 (25:17):
Well, the Chiefs are hapy to make history. We're the
first three feet in Super Bowl stats. The Eagles QB
Jalen Hurst also has his site set on the Lombardi
Trophy and a number of Super Bowl rings.

Speaker 13 (25:30):
Just winning it, man, just going all the way and
having an opportunity to win it with their brothers is
always fine.

Speaker 19 (25:34):
Chiefs defensive lineman Chris Jones says, everyone is feeling the excitement.

Speaker 22 (25:38):
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Three times back to this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
I can't make it up. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (25:44):
Security, well it's always the thing. This year just massive,
including hundreds of National Guards, the FBI, the Secret Service.
Since Trump is attending as the first US president to
do so, Homeland security is along. We're talking just hordes
of security people, especially after the New Year's Day vehicle
attack on Bourbon Street where what fifteen people were killed
and fifty seven others were injured. Meantime, if the Chiefs win,

(26:07):
does this make mahomes the new playoff goat greatest of
all time? Take that? Tom Brady? Many would say, yes,
you know, I always buried for underdogs. But at Kansas City,
w also it would be.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Something indeed enjoy kick off at about lunchtime, New Zealand time,
of course. By the way, just quickly on taraf Front's
Kelvin kleinb Tommy hillfigure. They've been attacked by the Chinese
under a company called PBH. They slapped ten percent tariffs
on them and they seem to be out of nowhere.
The Chinese have decided to have a crack at them
and as a result of the executive order the other

(26:38):
day when we left you on Friday. But transgender athletes,
the NC double A, which is the Collegiate Athletic Association,
they've updated their student athlete policy as a result of that,
and transgender women will not be competing in women's sports
from here on Him Away from.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Seven, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
The car sales for the month of January skinny old month,
not terrific, a fourteen point one percent decrease on jan
of twenty four and a thirteen percent job on jan
of twenty three. High Lucks outsold the Ranger if you're
interested in that sort of stuff. And the BYD Shark six,
which is an ev truck or ute came in tenth

(27:20):
with one hundred and ninety five registrations. It says here
remarkably it came. I would have thought that people were
interested in that, they would have pre ordered ship arrives
picked them up. But you know, we'll see where that goes.
So anyway, the economy is still fairly tight, is what
I'm telling you, Mike. Can you please ask nicola As
and Willis, why aren't these settings to let wealthy investors
and change in the first one hundred days. I see
this as being one of the most important things I

(27:41):
will I've asked that same question of many of their
policies their general antswer appears to be we had other
things to do at the time, but it doesn't mean
they shouldn't have done it. Five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
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Speaker 3 (27:58):
As which it said, Super Bowl Sunday, chicken wings. This
is the food, This is the important stuff. Chicken wings, dips, sliders, nachos,
and pizza. They're the big choices for the day. According
to Wells Fargo, if you can afford it last year,
then things look good this year. Because store bought Super
Bowl snacks are going to cost just zero point one
percent more than last year. So on average to cost
of food and drink for ten people, which includes chip, squacamole, beer,

(28:21):
and chicken wings, is going to cost you two hundred
and forty five n Z, which is only one hundred
and thirty nine as American and only ten cents more
than last year. So the problem though becomes the consensus
number one Super Bowl food is, of course, chicken wings.
They're up in price over seven point two percent, growing
demands driving that you can save money on frozen shrimp

(28:41):
if you're into that, that's down four. The frozen pizzas
down three point seven. Nacho chips they're down one point four.
So if you went with those three items alone, you
shrimp your pizzas, et cetera. You can afford the chicken
wings with your savings. So the dips, the guacamole, the
veggie sticks not as popular. Cherry tomatoes are up eleven

(29:03):
point nine percent, Avocados are up eleven point five, peppers
up seven point four, carrots up three point four. Now
the veggies, why are the vedgie's going up? Well, A
couple of things growing conditions last year not so flash. Also,
you get a lot of people on a ZEMPC and
the weight loss pills, so they're all skinny, so they
want to look like they didn't take pills to be skinny.
So they're ordering up the carrot sticks beer and winds

(29:24):
up two percent, which isn't the end of the world
non alcoholic they're reporting. What you need to do is
buy a big two liter bottle of the non alcoholic.
That way, by buying in bulk, you save more money.
That's what the more things do. I was going to say,
well we have more on the Super Bowl, Yes we will.
Ricky Ellison who won three of them. It's not bad going,
is it? New Zealand? To Ricky Allison? He's with us

(29:45):
after seven o'clock this morning. Also, look at this Golden
v So what actually and this is what I'm dying
to find out, what actually is the investment required? So
you got your five or ten million? Can you buy
shares or do you have to do a tech startup?
Do you have to build a rocket? What are the
rules around? That's more shortly out of the news, which
is next.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
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Speaker 3 (30:12):
Seven past seven. So as part of the government's planned
to fire up the economy this year, the Golden Visa's back.
In simple terms, you can invest five million over three
years in a growth type project or ten million over
five years and a more conservative operation. Either way it
gets your residency. Former Labor Cabinet Minister Stuart Nations well
a Stuart morning, Good morning Mike. Here are you very well?
Thank you? You congratulate the government.

Speaker 24 (30:31):
Why I've done a really good job on this. I
mean I launched this visa September twenty twenty two. The
intent is still the same. It's about active investment. We
want people over here going to contribute to the economy
and our communities. We've got a couple of things wrong,
I admit that, but it was new. We'd always written
a year long review period in the policy. The government's
taking a look at what we did. Thought we could

(30:52):
do a couple of things better. I agree, so good
on them.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
And as one of those things that you can do
better as the language test.

Speaker 24 (30:58):
Yeah, what was happening is some very wealthy guys found
it quite insulting that they came from countries where English
wasn't the first language. We were forcing to take a test.
It's not required made.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
So Phil Twyfe and I'm watching whining on the news
last night about rich people and how we don't want
them in the country and they don't do anything for us.
Is he wrong?

Speaker 24 (31:16):
One hundred percent wrong. I don't think still understands how
an economy works, or how New Zealand's economy works. But
we have very shallow capital markets, as generally acknowledge, we
just haven't got the people to grow companies into world
leading companies and a hell of a lot of a
month from the bank. These are people who are proven globally.
They know what to do, they know how to do it,

(31:36):
They're successful, they want to be part of our economy.
They're going to add to our communities. I think these
are awesome. Keep in mind, like to get your active
Bested plus visa, you've had to pass the good character tests,
You've had to pass the health tests, you've had to
your wealth has got to be acknowledged well, no proven
is coming from legitimate sources. These are good people, their
money is legitimate. They add value there is no downside.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Play to me. Once you arrive with your fire or
ten and as the planman is to point it out
in the speech yesterday, that you like the country, you enjoy,
you might have some more money and some more ideas.
At what point do they need to turn around the
rule where you can't buy a house A straightway?

Speaker 24 (32:13):
So at the moment if you arrive and you say
you want to be a tax resion, I live here
for one hundred and eighty three days. It's actually called
ordinarily reson, but be a tax resident, then you can
apply to the Overseas Investment Office to buy a house
to live in, and they'll keep you there. Under the AIP.
You don't have to be in the country that long,
so you can't actually buy a house. In fact, I
was speaking to a very wealthy American who's invested literally

(32:36):
fifteen to twenty million dollars.

Speaker 22 (32:37):
You're ready.

Speaker 24 (32:38):
He has his permanent residency, but he's not allowed to
buy a house. Loves the place, comes here a lot,
has to rent a place. That is the sort of
guy that adds immense value to this country, loves our community.
He spends a hell of a lot of money. He
should be allowed to buy it.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
You explain to me, because you worked with him, how
is it Winston can't see that.

Speaker 24 (32:56):
Oh, look, I'm still working with Winston on this. I
think Winston may come around to us. I mean, keep
in mind New Zealand's first major policy platforms we will
not sell New Zealand New Zealand to foreigners. And look,
I kind of buy that the fine Buyer band was
right at the time because we believe that overseas buyers
had about timcent of the market. Now that was skewing
the market. This is about creating economic opportunity, about economic wealth,

(33:19):
about growth, about jobs, everything that New Zild two stands for.
So I think there's a way forward. And when we
can say to once these are the good guys. These
are the guys that are coming over here and creating
jobs for keyweks. They're creating economic wealth for our country
and they're driving up everything that is positive about this country.
I think that there is a way forward and working
Thwitts another one.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Good to catch up. Appreciate it. Stuart Nash, former Labor
Party Cabinet minister. Of course ten and it's past seven
Pasky Bill us at just after seven thirty other matters.
New player and the billion dollar club. Good news, can
we Fruit and grapes, of course have crashed through the
barrier now joined by our apple and pear industry. They've
cracked a billion dollars for the first time. It's the
measure of how much an ortodist's paid pertray that goes
to the market. It's up twenty seven percent year on year.

Speaker 22 (34:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
New Zealand Apple and Peer CEO Karen Morris is will
us Karen, morning to.

Speaker 24 (34:05):
You, Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Where's the twenty seven percent come from? Is that purely
on price or quantity or both?

Speaker 7 (34:12):
So the twenty seven percent is actually the total GDP
value to New Zealand so the wider community. But certainly
anything has come from increases in production, certainly the investment
in some of those higher paying varieties, and to be honest,
just levels of productivity and the growers themselves and dogged
determination brilliant.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
When we say apple and pears, really we're talking about apples.
It's mainly apples, isn't it correct?

Speaker 7 (34:37):
Yeah, pairs make up about three percent of plantings year
on you.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
How nervous are you as you sit here this morning
about terraffs in America and the world and trade and
all of that.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
I think it's something that we have a watching brief on,
something that we're very mindful of, but something that we
would want to work with our own government to minimize
the impact as much as possible.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
And we watch and see fantastic And where do we
go with the Apples and pairs in terms of growth
new markets and growing those markets or the old markets
and growing.

Speaker 24 (35:09):
Those a bit of both.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
To be honest, it's about making sure that the market
access we've got we've got is maximized, but also looking
at you know, what does the world look like in
five to ten years, Where can we maximize new markets,
new growth, new middle income, that kind of thing. So yeah,
looking forward very much, so fantastic.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I love a person bearing good news. Karen Morris, who's
the New Zealand Apple and Pears CEO. Twelve minutes past
seven past because Stuart Nash are born again centrist. Now
it's amazing, isn't it. Once you get rid of the
shackles of the political party, you can see the world
in a whole new light and as insight into Phil
Twyford was on the money, but plenty of reaction on
Stuart Nash. Here's part of the problem with the mainstream media.
As I was watching poor old Television three over the weekend,

(35:51):
so Carolyn Lebett, who is Donald Trump's new mouthpiece, fronts
up with a long, long, long, long, long list of
all the money that's gone wayward at USAID, which has
slowly but surely been closed down. So she cites one
point five million to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces, seventy
thousand dollars for a production of a Dei musical and Ireland,

(36:13):
forty seven thousand for a transgender opera in Colombia, thirty
two thousand per chans during a transgender comic book in Peru.
She doesn't give the complete list, it's just a pracie. Anyway,
here comes the script. This is what TV three are
telling you afterwards. Those projects are worth less than two
million dollars, and that is just zero point zero zero
five percent of the total USA budget. That budget of

(36:33):
forty three billion dollars is just zero point seven percent
of the total federal spending. Now, I watched a bit
of this over the weekend. CNN and TV three. They're
of the same milk. What they're suggesting, first of all,
the money that was or the list that was given
by Carolyn Leabett of two million dollars is but a small,
tiny fraction of the overall amount of wastage. But what

(36:54):
these people are telling you is if we can show
you that the waste is only a small percent of
the complete bill, that then somehow becomes acceptable. So if
it's only just a bit, then we can go, oh,
never mind. I know it's wasted, but it's not really
the end of the world. And that, in a nutshell
is everything wrong? Is wrong with too many parts of
the mainstream media at the moment. Fourteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
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Speaker 3 (37:25):
News Talks. It'll be seventeen past seven. As we mentioned
a number of times already, Super Bowl Sunday in America,
the Chiefs v. The Eagles and New Orleans this year.
Former forty nine er and three times Super Bowl winning
Ricky Ellison's well this Ricky, very good morning to you,
good bying, very good season followed it closely. Will this
be a good game or will it be one of
those Super Bowls where the season was better than the
Super Bowl itself.

Speaker 22 (37:47):
I think it's gonna be very competitive, and I think
it's going to come down to the fourth quarter with
this team. I think Philly is going to get ahead
of it and Casey will come back as they always do.
And I think it's a team that wants at the
at the end to win it. Just looking forward to
making sure the refs don't play anything. But let the
kids play and let the rules be the rules, and

(38:11):
stay out of the game and let this game play.
That's what I'm excited for.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
If the Chiefs win and it's three times, where does
that put them in the annals of NFL history.

Speaker 22 (38:22):
Well, it's a different it's a different type of game
as it was, you know, fifty years ago. But it
is for this era of football to have a dynasty
when you have free agency put in place. Back in
the old dynasty is Green Bay and Dallas and US.
There was no free agency, so you keep the players together.

(38:43):
So this is so you had dynasty. So this is
a remarkable achievement in the air of free agency where
you can move players every year to sustain something like this.
This will be historic if they win this one.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
If the Eagles win. In your view, what is it
a surprise, shock, a boil? Over all, they deserve to win.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well.

Speaker 22 (39:04):
I think Eagles are playing a different game than k
C plays. They're back to traditional running the ball. They
have a running back right now that nobody in the
league's had something like that for probbably since Bo Jackson.
He's legitimately able to go to the house to score
anytime he touches the ball. They're going to go old
school and try to keep the ball away from KC,

(39:26):
control the ground and control the possession. To do it,
this would be a surge on it. And I think,
you know, Casey's also worry now this is they've taken
a toll. They're not the best KSE team over the
last couple of years. They're still great, but they're not
at the peak of what they can do. The quarterback
obviously can make things happen. And again I think the

(39:50):
refs are got to stay out of this and let
these guys play.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Well.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
We're looking forward to it. Ricky, good to talk to you.
Appreciate it very much. Rickyellison three times Super Bowl went
up for the forty nineers out of San franciscat the
difference he might a player who can touch the ball
and go to the house is, of course Saquon Barklay,
who has reignited the role or position of running back
in the last couple of seasons. Mike, was that really
the ex labor im Peduitt Nash or an AI version
of a Mike The easy answer for the rich immigrants

(40:15):
is to own a house in New Zealand. Let them
build a house. No one's doing that. That's pointless, Go Stewart,
first time I've heard of make sense, Mike. I always
thought Stuart Nash was in the wrong party. Lot of
respect for him. Do remember Stuart Nash. We always saw him,
It's why we used to have him on the program
as a moderate. He comes from the Labor Party of
Mike Moore and David Longe and Roger Douglass and David
Cagle and Richard Prebble, not the current version of the

(40:37):
Labor Party, which is unrecognizable to many traditionalists. And that's
why he looks moderate and sensible.

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One of the areas that didn't seem to get addressed
last week in that big social housing resetters. When does
it stop? Think about it? How big does social housing

(42:08):
have to get? I mean, just how many people does
the state need to house? When does it end? Or
does it never end? How big is that social net?
One hundred and seventy ish thousand people are in social housing.
Huge numbers, one hundred and seventy thousand. There's a queue
of twenty thousand, so let's call it a couple. One
hundred thousand people want social housing? Why? How come is

(42:28):
it the criteria that's soft? Can anyone get a social house?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
See?

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Part of the Labour government problem was the ideology that
once you got one, you didn't have to leave. So
that met a couple of things. One you set up
a system of bludging, and two because of the bludg
is you need more houses. But surely there must be
limits based on population. I mean, there's only five million
of us, for goodness sake, a couple of million work.
We've got one hundred and forty thousand ish jobless. As
we found out last week, there are far too many beneficiaries.

(42:54):
The ratios I would have thought must be easy enough
to work out based on other countries comparisons. In other words,
of any given population will be jobless, or kids or
at school or retired and so on. In that population,
a certain percentage on average will need social housing. Are
we worse than others? Seems like we are a department
with two hundred plus houses worth over two million dollars each.

(43:16):
Is a department with a shed load of property. Are
those alone are worth half a billion dollars? They're building
fifteen hundred more houses and you can argue about the
location and the price, But what about the demand? Why
don't we talk about the mham Why does so many
people actually need a government house? What is it in
their lives that they can't afford a house? Labor never
thought it was an issue. Obviously, you simply build anywhere

(43:36):
you like forever and increase the debt to do so.
And good on this government for reworking that into something
more fiscally sensible. But it still doesn't address what looks
like a swamp where no one knows where the bottom is.
Asking how many farewell parties do you think Marjorie app
is going to have two or three. How much are
they going to cost? Anyway, So we got the good
news Friday. You notice it was Friday, you know, in

(43:57):
the middle of a long weekend. You notice on Friday,
Marjorie decides that they need different leadership. The different leadership
one hundred percent right on that It is time is
health New Zealand is at a point in the reset
where a different leadership approach is required to take us
for She's one hundred percent correct. The type of leadership
is called competency. So we'll have some competency hopefully, and
she can go off and do whatever she's going to do.

(44:19):
She was going in June anyway because a contract was up,
but clearly the pressure got too much, so presumably the
farewell parties. Now let me ask you this next question,
fung array. We're in a scrap with a health department
over fluoridation. So before Ashley left Health and Helen became
the boss of Health, he issued an need it and

(44:39):
he said there are certain councils around the country you
must put and Taron's had the scrap you must put
fluoride in the water and he's entitled to do that
under the law. He is entitled to issue an edict
and the council must follow suit. The council got together
in fung array and they went and they had a
vote and they decided they weren't going to do it.
To which point, so Party who runs health Director General

(45:02):
of Health says it was an offense under the Health
Act of nineteen fifty six for a local authority to
contravene a direct or a direct direction from the Health Department.
So my question is this, if you have the law
behind you, why are we even having this discussion. Why
is it the council gets to give your middle finger
to somebody who has the law behind them. How is

(45:24):
it we're even having this conversation if they say you
do it, do it? And how is it you get
away with that? And how long does this go for?
And how much money in time is wasted in doing
all of that? Nikola willis next.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers others can't
use Togsdad.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
B Mike, I was talking to my wife about that
last night's social housing. If we keep building social housing
like this will end up like Singapore where the state
owns all the housing and we just have long leases.
Mike Saquon Barkley needs only thirty rushing yards to break
the single season record including playoffs of twenty four hundred
and seventy six yards, currently held by Deerald Davis Orso
Barklay twenty eight birthday today, it is indeed twenty three

(46:03):
minutes away from eight. I've got a call at commentary
box up to eight o'clock of course with Jason Pine
and Andrew several many time. Back to this new deal
for entry to the country is wealth. If you've got
five million, you can buy a residency. It's the Golden
Visas of April one, the active and best of plus
scheme will change its drop, its language, test entries five

(46:24):
million over three years for growth, ideas ten million over
five years for more conservative plans economic growth. Minister Nikola
Willis is Willis, good.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
Morning, Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
The specifics what delineates growth from conservative and who.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Decides so growth is the five million and that's for
direct investments straight into a Kiwi business or into a
New Zealand managed fund that is investing into New Zealand
businesses via managed funds, So that's direct investment.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
But a managed fund is also a superannuation fund. It's passive.
It creates nothing, does nothing other than eventually and somehow
feeds through to the market generally.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Well, well, no, we have a list of approved funds
that NZTE have approved that are making investments into New
Zealand ventures and businesses. So those are funds that, yes,
they're more passive than a direct investment, but the ruler
is seventy percent of that cash has to be flowing
directly into New Zealand adventures, so that is pretty direct investment.

(47:22):
And you talk to those fundholders, they'll tell you they
are always keen for more capital because they know lots
of startups, they know lots of businesses that need to grow,
and they're trying to source capital for them. So that's
the growth category.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
Could buy I could buy Sheares and Fisher and Pike
or Briscoes.

Speaker 5 (47:36):
No, it can't be for listed equities.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Okay, so it's got to be a fund like the
superannuation fund, superannuation fund.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Well, like the Angel Investor fund, like funds like the
Movac fund. There's a range of funds. There's dozens of
them on the NZTE site, and in fact, we expect
fundholders will set up funds specifically to take advantage of
the visa because there are clear rules that the money
needs to be going to active New Zealand investments, but
there are also people very interested in making those investments.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
The numbers he gave the Prime Minster in a speech yesterday,
I thought we were alarming what used to come into
the country versus what comes in now? How much of
that were the settings or how much of that was
the English Language test?

Speaker 5 (48:20):
Look, it was the settings, including the English Language test.
And you're right, Mike. We've been leading billions on the table.
So we know that in the two years prior to
Labour's changes, New Zealand took in more than two billion
dollars an investment through these golden visas. Labor went and
fiddled with things and that shrunk to just seventeen million,
which I just think is criminal because all of that

(48:41):
money could have been helping our economy, creating New Zealand jobs,
helping grow New Zealand businesses and the wealth of our economy.
So this is a putting right and it's important that
we do it.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Did you have to move now because Dunton maywell win
the election. He's going to do exactly the same thing
in Australia.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
This was about us being compared than the foreign investment space.
We've had a very messy immigration system we've inherited. First
thing was to clean up the house, fixing up those
employer work visas, ensuring that we had the regional seasonal
employment scheme working. And this was always firmly on our agenda.
It is an area where we had to consult pretty
widely because the details do matter. No point in setting

(49:21):
up visas that no one wants to take up, so
we did a lot of engagement to ensure that this
will work.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Is that your answer to my next question, which is
why didn't you do it sooner?

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah? Look, basically, as I said, the immigration system when
we came in was out of control. We were getting
huge flows of very unskilled people. We had migrant exploitation
opening up. We had a regional seasonal employer scheme that
wasn't working. So first moves were to fix that up.
You know, you clean the house and do the dishes first,
and now we've moved to this very important setting, which

(49:51):
is about attracting investment into the country.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You must be at a point now where you're getting
sick of being asked you, the Prime Minister and everybody
else about Peter's and his fascination with foreigners buying houses.
When's the announcement coming that changes that blockage.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Well, the first thing to note is that if people
become New Zealand permanent tax residents, then they are able
to buy homes in New Zealand. So there is a
pathway for people coming in at the moment. But you're
pointing to the National Party policy going into the election
in which we said we'd like to see more people
from overseas being able to buy a house here because
we see that as a contribution. And look, there are

(50:27):
discussions about what the conditions might be to meet that.
And I have learned Mike that is best not to
get ahead of Winston Peters, best to let him speak
for himself.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
He did on this program on Friday, where he seemed
to indicate that he was kind of across the line.
And the word is it's five or six million dollars
by way of a house, not your policy of two million,
And we're sort of there is that kind of about right.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
I think his position is that he sees value that
if people are genuinely going to contribute to New Zealand,
they're investing their cash here, they're creating key we jobs,
they're contributing to New Zealand communities, then actually there is
a case for them buying a home and the details
of that are all things that we're working.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
Through exactly in a matter of days or weeks, because
what you've announced doesn't make sense unless you follow through
with the logical conclusion, and that is that we need
to move on with the housing thing. So can we
say that's close or not?

Speaker 5 (51:21):
As I say, Mike, I'm not going to get here
to Winston Peters. As you know, this was an issue
that we campaigned very strongly on New Zealand. First have
had their position. It's up to them to decide we're
going to come to the table on this one. And
as I say, they're at the table and I hope
that we get.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Also on economic growth. And I couldn't get a decent
answer out of the Prime Minister the last week, and
we went to Stanford's office and she didn't give us
nothing but flannel. How is it that the Chinese will
allow us into China? Visa free and we won't reciprocate
when we're desperate for tourists.

Speaker 5 (51:55):
Well, you'll find that a lot of countries around the
world take the same approach. While we do visa free
travel for people from Canada, the UK, the US, we
do have a screening requirement for those coming from China,
and that puts US in the same place as Australia
and other countries. And that's just about protecting our national interests.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Well, are we suspicious of the Chinese?

Speaker 12 (52:17):
Look.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Immigration officials have looked at the pattern of where it
is that we get asylum seekers from, where there are
problems with expatriation, and all of those factors are taken
into account when they're deciding when visas are needed and
when they're not. But the bottom line is this, we
want more Chinese tourists. We've worked really hard to speed
up the processing of those visas that have come down dramatically.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yeah, ours of paperwork and all that sort of stuff.
It's just it seemed, I mean, you've answered it better
than they did, so I get the problem. But if
we can't get the Chinese back and we're at eighty
seven percent, where are we going to get them from.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Look, those numbers are continuing to grow. We are getting
them back off those big COVID lows, and I want
to see more of them. So we working both on
a marketing planned rictually to potential Chinese tourists, as I say,
speeding up those visa processing times, making that visa processing
as easy as possible. At the moment, we can see
that there is more that we can do there and.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
We should all right, appreciate your time as always. Nicola
Will serves the Economic Growth Minister. Seven forty five The.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
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Speaker 12 (53:26):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Away from my great hope last week, and I articulated
it was the whining around school lunches would stop. I
agreed with everybody. If you are not delivering on time,
there's something wrong with that. And the contracts a contract
and you pay big money and you've got to deliver
on time. But apart from that, the business of accessing
it and being a bit colder, a bit the wrong
color or the wrong shape or whatever the case may be.
I thought, when does the wine stopping it?

Speaker 14 (53:48):
I hear this yesterday, So we get essentially about nine
hundred and fifty dollars a week to help pay for
the wages of people. To do that distribution. Based on
last week, it costs me about fifteen hundred bucks last
week in wages, and so we're about five hundred and
forty five hundred and fifty bucks short per week in
terms of the real cost to me of distributing those lunches.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Right, So we're talking about now distribution. Last week, we're
talking about the difficulty of breaking the cellophane and getting
into the lunches. But presumably if we can get past that,
we then need to distribute them. And I'm thinking, listening
to this something, what the hell's distribution of a school lunch?
A van pulls up and drops off some lunches, and
you go, kids, lunches here and they go grab a lunch.
That's Born Coyer, by the way, who's one of the
unionsies on this program periodically. Nice guy he employs at

(54:31):
his school. As it turns out, this is the distribution
of lunches. He employs for four hours a day, five people,
So he employs twenty hours a day of labor just
to distribute lunch. Now, what is distributing a lunch off.

(54:52):
A van pulls up with some lunches and drops them off.
How is it you need five people for four hours
each every day? In other words, one hundred hours of
labor a week to distribute lunch. When I would have
thought call me old fashioned, you'd say, kids, lunch is here.
The kids come along, go to the pile, grab a
lunch and move on.

Speaker 18 (55:13):
Are they experts trained and breaking cellar phone?

Speaker 22 (55:16):
Perhaps?

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Could be that, but then they've got the cleanup. Now
call me once again old fashioned. You either one, if
you want to recycle, you take it back to the
original spot where presumably the contractor comes back and picks
it up to recycle another day. Or you, I don't
know what's the other thing you do? Oh that's right,
put it in the bin. Why do you need five
people for one hundred hours a week? This is just
one school to distribute lunches?

Speaker 18 (55:39):
You reckon? They have been at it.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Well, of course they don't have days. So you take it.
You take it back to the recycling, don't you How
hard is it to distribute a lunch and get it?
I have I gone mad?

Speaker 18 (55:50):
Could they not a point? I don't know? Some kids
as lunch monitors.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Just like the old days. Yeah, yeah, exactly nine minutes
away from.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
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togs dead be given.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Away from a change coming to everyone's favorite train, the
to Whui. You haven't talked about the to WHOI you
so far this year? So as of this morning, no
longer stops at Papakura. Sorry Papakura. We'll call in at
Poka Coe. Are the Waycatto Regional counselor angel strangers back?
Will this angel a very good morning to you?

Speaker 6 (56:18):
Yeah, good morning bye.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Now Poka Coey's had an upgrade park and ride and
all that sort of stuff. Is this part of the
reason you've done this?

Speaker 12 (56:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:25):
Absolutely. The other reason is our residents within North Waikato. Yeah,
we really came for them to easily access to Hueya. Also,
Pokikuey residents getting a limited stop service, and Aukland.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Is Papacura gutted.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
There's there's been some disappointment there.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
Yeah, but what can you do? So you're still you're
still only doing one stop, So it's Hamilton, Poka Coe
next stop Auckland or not.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
So it's Hamilton, two stops in Hamilton Huntley, Popikoe Poe
nooi and then into the strand.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Okay, how long is it taking? Is it taking faster
than a car yet or not?

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Well, that depends on the time of day.

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Mike.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
What is great about to who he is that you
have that guaranteed arrival time, which is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
With Papakota and Pokkui. We unfortunately we couldn't do both.
Every time you stop, you lose five minutes and we
know that, as you say, time is really crucial.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Yeah, right, So time and delay. Do you keep those stats?
Does it arrive on time?

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Yes, yes, it does, apart from when there's things out
of our control. So we work as hard as we
can and the staff at key we Rail are awesome,
but often things just don't go to plan.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
No, So do you keep those stats and when you
arrive on time and don't arrive on time so you
get an overarching sort of picture, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yep we do, and yeah we look to address those issues.
Yeah when we see a pattern developing, so yep, definitely
keep an.

Speaker 12 (58:00):
Eye on that.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
So twenty four thousand last year passengers, is that up significantly?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 6 (58:07):
Sorry, every year since the Hue has launched. We've been
making steady games on the patronage. Obviously, we've been shut
down since just before Christmas, so we've been back at
it a week and really excited to see where Patronage
grows this year, especially with their Pockey Cooey stop in
our Northway Cuto residence and Auckland residents being able to.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Access that fantastic go well, Angela, angela strange. Excuse me,
who's the wake out our regional counselor always arrives on time?
Set those times when it doesn't.

Speaker 18 (58:39):
Or indeed doesn't arrive at all because it couldn't because
it wasn't due to one of those things out of
their control.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Exactly, food tech class. We've decided, get the food tech
class to distribute lunches. Give them some NCAA credits, give
them level three straight away. Just get the first thing.
Get to Form three or you know, detention attention com
So if you're in attention, you get to distribute the lunch.
You have to distribute the loan, you have to distribute
the lunches.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
To get that.

Speaker 18 (59:09):
I've had enough of you.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Exactly, you're distributing lunches. Yeah, very good idea or na
credits eighty credits, so you get level three straight away.
Just to distribute the lunches. And if you can also
tell the kids how to pierce the cellophane uie simple
as that. See problem solved every morning on this program
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Speaker 4 (59:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Seventy four. He let up, got off the.

Speaker 8 (01:00:03):
Stadium, the last ten overs going for one hundred and
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
He gloves one to dominate them and that's the rapt
with nine down and Horristrove engined two hundred and fifty
two is what Pakistan managed. Seventy nine behind.

Speaker 15 (01:00:19):
Was one of the great tenth matches in the Guinness
six station since its deduction bucks in the year two thousand.

Speaker 12 (01:00:28):
It just had everything.

Speaker 21 (01:00:30):
What a game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Heavy Tevil Jason Pine with us this Monday Morning fellows,
good morning to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You, good morning, morning morning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
A couple of quick things just to tick them off, Jason,
You for was it white any day the Phoenix were playing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It was?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
How come no one was there?

Speaker 21 (01:01:07):
Oh, nine thousand within one thousand? It's you know, apologies
like your pan around to the yellow seats and it
looks pretty empty. Look, you know, we don't have time
to discuss this today. They should be playing somewhere else.
But yeah, nine thousand was okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
So you'd say nine thousand's okay compared with Auckland, which
is a twenty five thousand plus et cetera. So it's
not a problem for the Phoenix. You don't think, no,
I know, I think it is a problem.

Speaker 21 (01:01:33):
I think it's a and I think it's a great
problem for them to have that Auckland FC have created
for them. Look, Auckland f C, you cannot deny have
engaged the Auckland football fans magnificently. So yeah, Wellington Phoenix
have to respond to that. They absolutely have to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Now it's sam a couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Bigger population than Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah, well look I get all of that, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Winning and ure winning.

Speaker 23 (01:01:56):
But no, I think they've done it. We've discussed previously.
They've done very very well new club and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
They have set the standard. It's it's it's a blueprint
on how to launch.

Speaker 23 (01:02:05):
Speaking of crowds, isn't going to be interesting in the
coming weeks to see how the Blues compared to Auckland
f C.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Who compared to the Warriors.

Speaker 23 (01:02:14):
That's going to be a good breaking number the Warriors week.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
One thing you can say about the Warriors, I'll get
to that game because I watched it. Did you watch
the game, Andrew?

Speaker 23 (01:02:23):
I've seen bits and pieces of it. I watched another
preseason game last night. I thought, gee, that's it's quite exciting.
I'm excited for the NROL season coming up. Watching preseason, Yeah,
I didn't see a lot of the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Though Warriors were Warriors. It was written up in a
in a way that they would be disappointed, and I
disagree with it. I thought they did okay, they dominated
the game more than the other guys. I know, the
other guys didn't have their stars and we did blah
blah blah. But but but for a warm up, you know,
I thought they did fine. The question this preseason, right, yeah,
the question I want to ask you, Joe Schmidt, why

(01:02:55):
what's happened there? Do you think?

Speaker 23 (01:02:57):
Well, he was only contracted until after the Lions tour.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
But he's doing well? Hello, oh not more? What is
he there?

Speaker 21 (01:03:10):
I'll pick up, I'll pick up if you like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Mike, He's sorry, Jason Grendad's gone and muted himself. It's boomers,
boomers on the phone. Anyway, you carry on, Jason.

Speaker 21 (01:03:22):
All I was gonna say he was as said was saying,
he was only.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Your bet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Pick it up there, come on, granddad, And to keep
your thumb off the button.

Speaker 23 (01:03:34):
I think my fat left cheek pushed against the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
My facial cheek that is pushed against the mute button.
I'm very sorry about that, Joe Schmidt.

Speaker 23 (01:03:43):
Mike, he was only contracted until the end of the
lines to what's that July August. He's signed on to
the Rugby Championship. But I assumed somewhere along the line
he would stay on to the next world exactly. He
doesn't like spending a lot of time away from his family,
which is which is which is fair enough. I think
he only really took this job on short term, clearly,

(01:04:03):
But I thought he'd been doing well enough and elks
to be enjoying it that he would stay on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Precisely exactly, That's what I was thought. So where they
go now? I mean I don't care. I mean, they
can get anyone they like. But what I mean that
they had they had a winner. I thought they had
a winner. I thought there's something there on that because
they we need them to be good, don't we.

Speaker 12 (01:04:22):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yep.

Speaker 23 (01:04:22):
They always beat the All Blacks a couple of times
last year, if you remember, We're too now for a
coach to them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I don't know, I don't know. It looks like they
might have to start from scratch again.

Speaker 23 (01:04:32):
I mean, they mistakenly got rid of the Dave Rennie
and now Joe Schmid's not staying on with the World Cup,
so it could be back to square.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
One, which is a shame, fair enough to I was
watching the golf Jason over the weekend. I know Elka
came second, but I was watching the thirteenth. It's called
the thirteenth Beach Golf Victorian Open. And it was so
windy there yesterday Josh Geary won it. It was so
windy there yesterday. When you put the ball down on

(01:04:59):
the green, it blue away.

Speaker 21 (01:05:02):
So why do they schedule golf and places like that.
They must look at the forecast, do they, surely?

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Well, yeah, but the forecast tends to be a little
bit more current than when you scheduled the tournament, which
was probably a year in advance. And the long term
bull coust as we will know, are no good. I
don't know what you do, but Josh.

Speaker 23 (01:05:17):
Did you bring back memories of did it bring back
memories of your golf career? Michael albeit brief what he
was when the balls sometimes used to move by itself
all round part to the golf course.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
I tell you what I learned over the weekend, Andrew,
thanks for raising it. I had a breakthrough in my snooker.
And I got my breakthrough in my snooker from Sean
Murphy who hired a coach, and he said stay down
on the shot and don't lift up until the SHOT's
virtually complete. So, in other words, think through what you're
going to do stay down, watch it unfold and then

(01:05:49):
lift up because most of the time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Too too quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Yeah, And I did that, and I did it on
Friday and I thought, bucking me, this isn't working. Then
I went back into Saturday and I thought it's still working.
So I'm at a different league as a result of
this weekend's top tip from Sewn Murphy.

Speaker 23 (01:06:04):
When you say you're in a different league, is it
still a low league?

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Like fifth division? Sixth division?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Go put yourself on mute. Thirteen past eight, The.

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Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Like just just going back to your snooker.

Speaker 23 (01:06:40):
It makes sense because you know, goalkickers keep their head down,
Golfers keep their head down through the follow through they
finished the shot. Cricketers the same, So that makes sense
for snooker, dosn't it does? It's all about it's all
about staying down. You know, often go to get off
the couch to go for a run, and I.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Stay down, stay down, right down, stay down. The other
thing about the reason I RaSE Seawan Murphy is here's
one of those guys. It used to be good, but
then he faded and you thought that's him done. And
now he's back, he's back winning. And the other thing
you do is you lean forward to the point in
your shot where it's uncomfortable to lift your bridge hand up. So,
in other words, there's so much weight going forward it's

(01:07:16):
difficult for you to lift your bridge hand up, which
is another top tip. By the way, are you hearing
the lisp Jason in SAB's voice from his WhatsApp connection.

Speaker 21 (01:07:27):
I know, not necessarily, not any more than normal.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Where's this going?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Well, no, it's just a lot of people say when
you're on the go, but go back, And I thought
you normally did you go back to the website and
listen to your performance, Sab, You've got a distinclawy lawyers
back and listen to just to cover it. Of so
you developed, through your WhatsApp app connection a lisp this morning,
so your voice is a little bit different that's all
just to explain it to people, people getting upset. Super

(01:07:52):
Bowl Jason, are you interested or are we interested for
just the sake of being interested, because everyone seems to
get interested.

Speaker 21 (01:07:58):
Now I'm interested. I'm interested. I'm always interested in dynasty.
The Kansas City Chiefs can can add to theirs. No
one's ever won three Super Bowls in the era where
they had a decider. They always win tight games. They
won an overtime last year, beat the Philadelphia Eagles in
a tight one two years ago by three points. From memory,

(01:08:20):
Patrick Mahomes incredible. Can you dethrone him? Saquon Barclay, the
incredible running back for Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 21 (01:08:29):
I know there's a lot of pageantry wrapped around at
the halftime show, Kendrick Lamara and all that sort of thing,
but you can't deny the you know, the size of
this things.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
In the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
It'll be a record breaker. I think Andrew see as
a person who follows NFL as closely as anybody, I
want it to be a good game. But I've seen
so many Super Bowls that aren't good games. And this
season has been a great season. It's been a phenomenal season,
and I just want the game to match the season
as much.

Speaker 23 (01:09:01):
It's been a lot of close games as a lot
of a lot of games won by kicks or one
by last last play touchdowns. Isn't it amazing how the
Kansas City Chiefs were sort of America's team for a
while with Mahomes and Kelsey, and now that they've won
so many games and people everyone hates them, people accusing
the referees of taking it soft on them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
It's amazing how quickly people turn when you have success.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Couldn't agree more. If Steven Adams goes to the Lakers,
is that a cool thing?

Speaker 23 (01:09:27):
Well, that's fantastic. That would be fantastic way to have
a couple of years. Then maybe to see out the
end of his career, that would be. It would be
brilliant playing Lebron. Okay, Lebron's what forty on now? But
Don Chic should be in his prime.

Speaker 14 (01:09:39):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
I don't know if you read Jason the other day.
I look out for sab on the news each night,
and he's I think he was there sometime last year.
He certainly hasn't turned up this year so far, but
I'm reading in the Heralds.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Entertainment the list over the holidays, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
It's probably it, but I'm reading I'm reading, Jason as
I'm sure you are, in the Herald's Entertainment section that
Sad was at the Shane Jones Big bash last week
for White Tangy Days. So he's hanging out with the
literati and literati and it says, you know, the Prime
Minister was there, and the Governor General was there, and
the leader of the Opposition was there, and Andrew Sevil
was there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
You got all You've got all free wrong. They weren't there.
I was definitely there. I had a good chat there,
old mate Mark Mitchell.

Speaker 22 (01:10:28):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Good to see him. I told you who I was
ran and so I was going to raise this before
the end of the show. Brad Olson from Infometric.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
That guy is a great guy, that guy, I said, the.

Speaker 23 (01:10:38):
Brad, Brad, you're on the sprites and he said, actually, Andrew,
I don't drink.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
And I said, sorry, I didn't know that, mate, Glenn
have painted you out to be some alcoholic on here.
I feel I felt sorry for him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Did he bust and he moves out?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
I think he left.

Speaker 23 (01:10:56):
Before the dancing began, but we but but I had
a good him and then we toasted both of our
cands of sprite together and we were off.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Into the bart.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Are you still claiming you're not drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Pardon?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Are you still claiming you're not drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I'm just losing you on this new technology.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I think I've nice to see you guys. We'll catch
up next week. Appreciate it very much. I could have
There was so much more I could have talked about
Chris Wood? Are we over him? Sale? GP were useless?
The black Caps? Was that a thing? Jason?

Speaker 21 (01:11:28):
I'm still here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
I like to wrap up a segment. This is the thing, Jason.
I like to wrap up a segment and you relax
and then I can buy something straight back at you.
Catch you out?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Love it? I love it? Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:11:42):
The black Caps are they things' trae if you're looking
forward to it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Can we mention just quickly?

Speaker 21 (01:11:45):
Sam Ruth this fifteen year old and incredible is well
he's he's run faster over fifteen hundred meters as a
fifteen year old, then yakub Ingebrits and the double Olympic champion.
He's a key We Sam Ruth, remember the name.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Okay, very good. Indeed, was that the Douglas thing was
happening yesterday? Yes, I was watching that their coverage lacked cameras.
Did you notice that It's not like they had two
cameras and you sort of went to another sport and
they had to sort of zoom in on it, and
I thought, hang on, this is not the way we
used to do it. Mind you, we didn't used to
mute our phones either on WhatsApp?

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
So am I still no?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
You're not an entry you you you've gone ages ago.
It's just me and Jason having a good time. Take care.
It's a twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
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Nowsky the Taylor Swift effect. Everyone hates her. I'm going
to sing the Eagles victory song. That's not true, but

(01:13:32):
there is something in that. Mercedes. If you watch Drive
to Survive Mercedes when they used to win a lot
in f one, everyone hated Mercedes. I wanted anyone to win.
If you go back far enough, you look at the
Ranfilly shield eras of Auckland and Canterbury. Everyone hated Auckland
and Canterbury, and so I don't think Taylor Swift's got
anything to do with it, but you know, people do
tire of success. It's the weirdest thing. And as for

(01:13:53):
the Eagles victory song, what a stupid song that is
Byles Boy. So I mentioned Josh Geary. And the only
reason I raised this with Steve, which I will shortly,
is this was held at the Thirteenth Beach Golf Links yesterday.
It looked a seriously inhospitable part of the world down
there in Victoria, and of course I strongly suspect that

(01:14:14):
Steve belongs to it, or if he doesn't, he plays
there on a regular basis, because I think he lives
down that way, and I thought, why would you play
golf basically in a headland which next stop is the
antactic because it looked like anyway. Josh won it, so
he's happy, but he was struggling. So Steve price on that.
And of course then we've got the big business of
the two by elections in Victoria over the weekend. Both

(01:14:35):
look like they been tipped over to the Coalition, So
more details on that shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Be good bit of work by the consumer people. A
rumor of things at Christmas time. If I said to you, hey,
at Christmas time, do supermarkets put up their prices in
order to rip you off at fest of season? You go, yeah,
damn right, that's they do. Anyway, they went and did
some research through December ten supermarket products, custard, mustard, chocolate,

(01:15:11):
stuff like that, things you'd buy at Christmas. They did
it at New World, Woolworths and Pack and Save. There
are clear trends. In the Christmas week they had the
highest number of specials on offer twenty three discounts across
ten products. The week before that twenty two specials. By
the end of January only three. So, in other words,
the specials were to be had in the Christmas season
when you're out looking, so they were genuine bargains to

(01:15:32):
be had. Once Christmas came and went, the bargains were gone,
so you're not getting ripped off after all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Business Right stagers do price morning to you good, Adam,
talk to me Steven about the Thirteenth Beach golf links.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
What do you know?

Speaker 12 (01:15:52):
It gets very windy And they had the Victorian Open
being played there yesterday, correct, and at one point the
players asked for the tournament to be halted because the
wind was blowing the balls off the green. Do you
live that way as the crow flies? I'm about probably
ten k from there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Right, because I looked at that place yesterday and I thought,
what a god forsaken play. I mean, if you're into
like pretending you're in Scotland and playing links golf in
a storm, that'd be great. Does it blow like that often?

Speaker 12 (01:16:25):
No, not very often. Yesterday was the windyst I've ever
had it here, so it was very, very very windy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
New Zealander won. Now what I'm really interested in is
this business of a Paran's gone. So the Greens have
lost that wire abe two by elections. What do you
reckon the chances of the coalition picking this up once
they work through all the numbers.

Speaker 12 (01:16:43):
Today, I don't think they've got enough folks left to
win it. But this is I mean to describe it
for people, This is labour heartland whereby is about fifteen
to twenty kilometers west of Melbourne would have been held
to seat there uninterrupted sinto that nineteen seventy nine, the
former treasurer, who who's wrecked the economy of Victoria, decided

(01:17:06):
he was not going to play politics anymore. So quit
that's why there was a by election. The swing and
now looks like being the primary vote swing of about
fifteen percent against labor. Everyone says, well, why is that
the case. Well, these poor people, I mean sometimes they
sit for an hour on the one road in, the
one road out trying to get onto the freeway. So

(01:17:27):
they are local issues. But I think everyone's attention has
now turned to the fact that we're going to a
federal election coming up. What's this mean for labor? And
it means that labor is on the nose big time
in Victoria and voters are not differentiating between local issues
and federal issues. Crime is a big one in that area,
and so they're going to blame anyone they can, and

(01:17:47):
I think Labour's going to have a real problem in
holding some of these outer suburban seats. There's another poll
published today that showed if an election was held this weekend,
it would be very very tight. Now Labor federally Mike
Old's twenty four seats in Victoria, so they could win
the Coalition could win the election in Victoria alone, let

(01:18:08):
alone what they might do in New South Wales and
Queensland and other places. And so there'd be a lot
of head scratching in camera this morning from Labor about
what they can do to reinvent their brand. Quite simply,
what's happened is the outer suburban ring, which was largely
blue collar Labor, have now decided that Labor is not

(01:18:30):
doing anything for them both federally in state, and so
they're going to vote for either an independent or someone
from the coalition. Ken Peter dunt't win an election. I'm
not sure yet time So.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
That was my next part. So good answer. So they
need to win from memory about eighteen seats to flip
eighteen seats? Can does this change the conversation materially out
of the weekend all by itself or not?

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Really?

Speaker 12 (01:18:56):
Yeah, it probably does. It probably pushes the election out
to the last possible time that they can do it.
It probably also says to Labor that, Okay, if we
do that, we've got to have a budget. If we
have a budget. We're going to look after these people
who've turned on us. We've got to somehow find in
the budget enough money to start pushing money toward the

(01:19:16):
projects that they want fixed. I think the time's too
short for them. I think the mood in the country's
already turned. You've got to remember Tony Abbott when he
beat Kevin Rudd won sixteen seats. It's not impossible, but
eighteen's are very big. Ask Peter Dutton is performing pretty
well at the moment, Anthony albit easy And this is

(01:19:36):
the other crucial point is looking like a week leader,
and people don't like week leaders.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Justly what I did see I was watching a bit
of it on Saturday night because I was interested for
this very reason, this preferencing thing. You've got the actual
vote they got the coalition versus what they ended up
with once you're preferenced at all. I mean there's a
huge difference, isn't there?

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Yeah? There is.

Speaker 12 (01:19:58):
I mean the way our system will works is that
preferences flow on from whoever you tick number one and
whoever that if you follow the how to vote card
to that candidate, then often what will happen is the
Labor candidate. It gets a huge number of Greens preferences. Now,
what Labour stupidly did in that pran by elections didn't

(01:20:19):
stand a candidate. If they had, the Greens would have
probably held that seat and the Liberals wouldn't be running
around today crowing. It's a very very complicated system and
most people, you know, people I know, people who've been
around a long time, still don't understand how voting preferences were.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
I'm assuming elbows desperate for something to happen with Michelle
at the Reserve Bank tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:20:43):
Look, we've had twelve rate rises in a row. There's
been no cut since Anthony Albanezi came to power two
and a half years ago. The Bank has left the
rate on hold. Now I think for the last three
times we'll know by about two thirty our time tomorrow
the bank will go from a cash rate of four
point three five percent to four point one. The economists,

(01:21:07):
as usual a split. Most of them seem to think
that there's a chance that will happened. Others are not
so sure. Caution is something that Michelle Bullock is very
good at and I wouldn't be surprised tomorrow if she
comes out and they leave.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
It on old interesting. I know that Miles was Defense Minister.
Miles was in the States meeting hig Seth over the
weekend and he handed over check for eight hundred million
on Orcus. Has anything materially changed because of Trump?

Speaker 12 (01:21:33):
Not yet. Tariffs and what China might do will have
a big impact on Australia. Everyone was saying, oh, well,
isn't it great that we've got a solid relationship with
the United States and they're our greatest partner in the world.
It does help when you turn up with a bag
with eight hundred million dollars in it. But Orcus seems
to be still on track. There was some fear that

(01:21:54):
Donald Trump would blow that up, but he seems not.
He's got a few other things to worry about. It's
looking at whether Australia and submarine juries problem.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
You're a good blake. See Wednesday to preciate it. Steve
Price out of Australia this morning just quickly. I've been
following with an element of interest a trial, a court
case that's going on in Sydney and is being covered
breathlessly by the Australian media, mainly because the ABC, the
Australian Broadcasting Corporation have turned out to be complete and
out buffoons. There's a woman called Latouf who got sacked

(01:22:26):
by the ABC and she's suing them for wrongful dismissal.
She got sacked because she got hired as a fillain
and she then posted some stuff on her social media
about the Palestinians and the ABC. Public broadcasters are supposed
to be neutral, which of course they're not, but this

(01:22:47):
just proved they're not anyway. The funny thing was, this
is how it was written up the other day. Hello,
this is the newspaper, the Sydney Morning Herald. Hello, and
welcome back to our coverage of the Antoinette La Tooth
versus ABC trial in the Federal Court. I am Callen Jaspin,
and today it is day five of the proceedings, which
just so happens to be the same length of time
the Troop was employed to fill in as a casual

(01:23:09):
presenter on the ABC Radio Sidney in December of twenty
twenty three. She got sacked. This is the irony of this.
She got sacked after day three, day three of her
five day contract. The trial will last longer than her
entire career. It is eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
At b twelve minutes away from nine. I should mention
that she, of course was a diversity higher and officially
admitted as a diversity higher by the ABC. When they
asked them in court, is she a diversity higher, they
went yes. Years at no point they checked her social media,
of course, her track record on social media as to
whether she might be a problem that they were more

(01:23:53):
interested in the fact she was a diversity higher and
that's gone and bitting them in the bum. Can I
ask for your advice? We had on our for a
while there. We had several African juju hats on our
walls at home and Katie went through a period where
she bought I think it was three African juju hats
and she's she came home and announced they were art,
which of course they're not.

Speaker 18 (01:24:12):
Sky Can you just explain exactly what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
It's a very large I mean on a wall, it
would be a meter and a bit in circumference, made
of feathers. If you take it off the wall and
stick it on your head, it sort of falls on
your head like a hat. It's I suppose pretty anyway,
she announced that they were n't so they hung on
our walls. We somehow managed to get rid of a

(01:24:35):
couple of them, and the last one was there and
one of the kids is moving into another flat and
he said, we need something bohemian to hang on the walls.
Didn't have anything bohemian. The first thing I thought it
was an African juju hat, So I said, had the
juju hat get the hell out of here?

Speaker 18 (01:24:47):
Cultures to me and African juju.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
I didn't want to explain that to him. He's young man,
he's moving into a flat. Let's not make it complicated.

Speaker 24 (01:24:54):
Glenn.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Also, I got some crap off the wall, so I've
nuggled a gap. I also read over the weekend Barry
Humphreys is date this week is selling some of his stuff.
So here's my question. This is it Christie's and I'm
going to buy something, And this is my question to you.
So he was an artist, not a particularly good one,
but an enthusiast. Do I buy one of his pictures

(01:25:18):
that he painted? So I've got a Barry Humphreys painting
or also in the sale are pictures of him, some
by moderately famous people. So do I buy a picture
of Barry Humphreys buy somebody else that doesn't Bury Humphreys,
or do I buy a Barry humphreyes that is a
Barry Humphrey. So when you come to my house and
look at the wall, you go, oh my word, what's that?

(01:25:39):
I say it to Barry Humphreys and you go, really,
I didn't know you painted.

Speaker 18 (01:25:41):
So this is basically a wall of cancelable material. Is
that what you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Well, I don't know, but I've always because no one's
a bigger fan.

Speaker 18 (01:25:49):
I'm still not very comfortable about the African Doo two
heads to be pivot.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
I could have given you one if you come to
me earlier, I could have happily given you one. And
now Barry Humphries. Yeah, no one's a bigger fan of
Bear Humphries than me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:26:01):
So yeah, so do I problematic?

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
It's a simple question. Do I buy a picture of
him by somebody else? Or do I buy a painting
he did that you might not know it was from him,
And to be blunt, really blunt, not that good a picture.

Speaker 18 (01:26:16):
Actually, Sam next to me makes a very good point
in my right ear. Who's what difference doesn't make is
nobody's ever going to come around and see it. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I'll be there, though, I'll be there. You can buy
glasses Dame Meid and glasses genuine.

Speaker 18 (01:26:29):
I was really hoping that Damien there had perhaps collected
her own or a selection of juju hats, or.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
A daymid An address. Anyway, it's all at Christie's. It's
it's this week. I'm super excited, ate away from.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Head be you know it's still coming in, Mike, buyer
Barry Humphrey's painting. You'll have years of enjoyment knowing he
physically touched and painted it. It's a nice way of
putting it, Mike. Buy one of the paintings, Mike, you
buy a Humphrey's painting. Mike, my mum's thinking of selling
a Goldie. That's not helpful. Buy a clock for the
wall so you can see how much time you've wasted on.
Barry Humphreys are not helpful either. Why on earth do

(01:27:07):
you want something that barr Humphrey is not helpful? No,
by the glasses, they'll suit you, not helpful by the
original painting.

Speaker 18 (01:27:12):
So it seems to me see and but I've got
feedback that says I have explicitly banned any Barry Humphreys
art from the house.

Speaker 3 (01:27:22):
That's a small impediment.

Speaker 18 (01:27:24):
And please note I only ever bought one Juju hat.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
It was three. See what she does distorts the true
five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Trending now with Warehouse, the real House of Fragrances.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
UFC was in Australia last night. UFC three twelve very successful,
brought in thirteen and a half million at the gate.
That's a record for any Australian indoor sporting event. Don
Dana White, he was chatting about the event. Listen to
what he said and explain it more if it doesn't
make sense.

Speaker 20 (01:27:54):
But the person for a place that is so tough
and the people, everything on land and the water can
kill you. You have the biggest pussies I've ever seen
in the media in my life. I saw a story
where a guy was like I saw Dana do a
podcast with.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
The premiere and it physically made me sick.

Speaker 20 (01:28:13):
Holy can you guys have to have the biggest pussies
of all time in the media here.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
Just for the record, it's funny because I was reading it,
I think most of it was in the Sydney Morning Herald,
and they were like really exercised that something this brutal
was going to be coming to Australia and how it
wasn't acceptable and it wasn't on and people beat each
other up and there are no rules and there's blood
all over the arena, and they were begging Middens as
in the premiere of New South Wales particularly for they

(01:28:43):
put money in, so New South Wales put money into
bringing it here and they said, why on earth would
we be using taxpayers money to bring this sort of
nonsense to Australia. Lead I note by Peter fitz Simon's
well known liberal. Of course he couldn't stand the idea
that he wrote a very good piece about Joe Schmidt,
but then he got onto this. He went way off piece. Anyway,
The upshot was Dana read it, obviously didn't like it,

(01:29:04):
and that was the that was the end of that.
Speaking of things not liked, Ben Elton last time he
was here, it is claimed in a New Zealand Herald
review hates me, hates me it says Ben Elton hates
Mike Hosking as much as some other New Zealanders. That's

(01:29:25):
what the New Zealand Harold said. So I thought, what
more can I possibly do than ring Ben Elton and
get him on the program. I thought, you know, for
a personally, it hates me. He won't want to come on,
and yet he is, and he's with us tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
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