Full Show Podcast: 11 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
Mike Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs,
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Billy, You're welcome today, A couple of new visas to
get more labor into the country, offshore wind in a
multi billion dollar project, to tell you about a new
hot job farming applications of booming. The Prime Minister tells
us how cold it was in Queenstown? Are the lads
in the commentry box? Charles Feldman does the state? Steve
Price he pops up in Australia pasking.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Here we go for the.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
New week, seven past six in the old hope for
one thing, expect another scenario that makes up so much
of Lafe. The warriors dish up what you kind of
knew was coming, didn't they?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is it over? I think pretty much? It is. I
reckon we will end up with thirty seven is ish points.
That accounts for one more loss and a few more wins.
Is it good enough for the four? You'd hope so,
but probably not. Is it good enough for the eight?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Indeed, most certainly. As we said last week, in other seasons,
at this time of year, we're debating the eight. Aren't
we are we in?

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Are we not?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We used to get excited about all that we make
the eight and who knows what's possible? That was the chat.
But that's the trouble with this, and of course we've
been so much better than that. The eight is not
the story. The four was the story, and it may
may still be. But no matter what the end number is,
the simple truth, the inescapable reality is we can't beat
top sides. We haven't they beat us. We don't beat them.

(01:16):
Oh yes, there was some more concussion and injury the
beleagued side added to the beleaguedness. Replacements had replacements. But
it is what it is. I mean, I don't follow
the wider competition closely enough to know whether everyone carries
our level of injuries or for some reason we are
batted in a way no one can comprehend. But there
is no miracle cure. Depth only takes you so far
when you're dropping like flies. Now I could trouble you

(01:39):
with some fanciful nonsense about hope and maybe's and miracles.
I could say, hey, look at Penrith. They were bottom
of the table, they were useless. We beat them if
they can do it, so can we nine in a row.
But that's wasting everyone's time, isn't it. We have never
ever one nine in a row. My prediction for the
rest of the season, as you just heard, doesn't actually
have us winning four in a row. We're not, Sadly,
aside to defy history, we no teams don't win from

(02:01):
outside the four. We aren't in a position to rewrite
that stack. So was it the injuries that did us
in or do we need to take basically another complete
step up? In other words, yes, we are good, Yes
we improved. Yes this has been a great year, but
we are still always were just short of greatness. And
if that's the case, what's the answer. Well, this, sadly,

(02:24):
I'm here to tell you after thirty one goes is
not our you.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yes, news of the world in ninety second.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Imagine moving on two walls when Alaska at the end
of the week. Of course, maybe Zelenski's involved, maybe he isn't.
Two Gaza and Yaho says he's all in.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Our goal is not to occupy Gaza. Our goal is
to free Gaza creed from kramas Terrace. The warking end tomorrow.
If Gaza, or rather if Kramas lays down its arms
and releases all the remaining hostages.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
You can imagine what they're saying at the UN.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Decision by the Israeli government will do nothing to secure
the return of the hostages and the risk further endangering
their lives. It will also worsen the already catastrophic humanitarian
situation in Gaza and those a bit of this as well.

Speaker 8 (03:17):
How on earth is Israel is still allowed to sit
around this table and in these United Nations. If it
was another country, you would have been imposing sanctions a
long time ago.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
But also a bit of this.

Speaker 9 (03:32):
Remarkably, instead of pressuring Hamas, members of this body have
encouraged and rewarded its intransigence, actively prolonging the war by
spreading lies about Israel, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation and the
United States.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
While at job by the White who exhausted there are
the ideas she remains unchanged.

Speaker 10 (03:52):
We have a clear message for Israel. Urgently and permanently
lift all restrictions on a delivery is vital that the
UN and established humanitarian partners can operate safely and at scale.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
But back to the other war, JD's been in Britain
over the weekend on holiday, but he did have time
to go fishing and catch up with his old mate
Lammy and reassure us all that's all under control.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
The only way to make pieces to sit down and talk.
You can't finger point, you can't, you know why your
finger at somebody and say you're wrong, We're right. The
way to peace is to have a decisive leader, sit
down and force people to come together.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Finally, and the UK driver instructors have been given an
upper cut, so the Driver's Vehicle Standards Agency a little
bit worried about the marty. The grumpy instructors leading to
anxious tests cities, especially women. People generally are intimidated when
their examiner doesn't make any pleasantry. So the report says
men are likely to pass at the rate of forty
seven to fifty five percent, while women pass at the
rate of forty one to forty eight percent. The DBSA

(04:49):
wants all candidates to receive the highest level of customer experience.
Let us news the world and night if you missed it.
Over the weekend, a guy called Stephen Mirn. His name
is not nobly important in his job, as he's been
appointed to the FED. That woman Adriana Kogler who quit
the other day needs replacing. And you will be not
surprised to learn that mister Mirron is a close personal
friend of mister Trump, and we'll probably do what mister

(05:10):
Trump wants on the FED. His job lasts until January
of next year. It is twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
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Speaker 2 (05:26):
Rest of the week is going to be made up
of a couple of things around the wall. Where are
the talks? I mean Alaska. I'm assuming it's a military base.
They haven't told us anything about it. But more importantly,
the Europeans working desperately hard to get Zelensky involved, So
it'll be made up of is he going to be
involved in if he is? How So, watch the Space
fifteen Plass six Funds Management. Greg Smith, Morning to you, Moynes,

(05:49):
you Mike. How's the old results season going? Well, we've
gone mixed bag Gay.

Speaker 11 (05:52):
Even of a mixed bag took you on the consumer front,
So let's look at Expedio. Americans still seem to be
splurging on travel, but sort of the cautious manner so
those years they jump four percent, they recommit any revenue
is going to increase three to five percent. It was
from a previous guard of two to four but a
bit of a split between the US international though, So
domestic sales are sixty percent of tatal revenue. They rose

(06:14):
three percent, where is international jump thirteen percent, So your
budget travelers are just sort of being a little bit
more cautious. It comes the enterprise business that did well.
They helped soilitate travel for credit card companies they saw
seeing quarter bookings grow seventeen percent. But yeah, US consumers,
consumers are just you take a little bit of a
look at things before they spurge too much on travel.

(06:34):
It's also consistent with what booking dot Com said as well.
They said consumers are taking shorter trips at lower rates,
but they're still spending on travel. But some areas of
discretion in retail are under a lot of precious so
she is an under armor. They were hammered by eighteen
percent on Friday, so they said sales are sept to
decline six to seven percent in the current quarter, and

(06:55):
earnings of Judah have no surprises what due to tariffs
they get thirty percent of the mentionandise from Vietnam and
fifteen percent from Indonesia. But then on the positive front,
Americans still to be ordering in so delivery firm Instacart.
They had their strongest order growth since twenty twenty two,
and they also beat estimates, so they saw orders grow

(07:15):
seventeen eighty two point seven million, and then a line
with artpbeat releases from the sector from Uberitz and Dowdesh
so those years up four percent.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Okay, and then the gold where are we? I got
whiplash on the gold? What's happening?

Speaker 11 (07:28):
Yeah, a lot going on the gold market, so just
all around tariffs of course, and a lot of confusion
around whether they are subject to tarifs or not.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
And on the sedestion that.

Speaker 11 (07:37):
They are, saw gold prices record highs almost three and
a half thousand an ounce. Then the White House came
out and said no, this is all misinformation. In the meantime,
Switzerland had temporary halted their shipments to the US, but
they said there's going to be an executive order to
the White House soon that would confirm they won't be
subject to tariff's. But yes, certainly a big deal for

(07:58):
Switzerland and it had been seduced to tariffs on gold
bars would be like them thirty nine percent Switzland. That's
obviously very relevant to them. The US Council around about
six of their total exports. They're being penalized for running
a thirty eight billion dollar bio actual trade surplus with
the US last year. That was the thirteenth biggest. Of
course the name for a lot of things, but it's

(08:19):
Swiss gold that distorted the trade balance. So it's not
produced there or made there, but it is refined there.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
And so the exports to the US.

Speaker 11 (08:27):
Around fifteen billion last year was forty billion first quarter
this year head of the tariffs.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
So they've called for it to be ignored.

Speaker 11 (08:33):
From the trade surplus calculations. Also, there is a small
matter of pharmaceuticals. The expert ran about ten billion of
that stuff to the US. So no decision there yet.
But yeah, what could Switzerland do to try and get
their right lower? I guess lots of countries they are
trying to get their tariffroats. They're not about to go
unnutral and be a military ally. There's been suggestions they
could buy USL and G, but they'd be convoluted, particularly

(08:55):
they focus on hydroelectrical nuclear power, so yeah, a bit
of a rock and a hard place for them. Meanwhile,
centrist to left wing politicians and sort of said the
gold sector should be penalized for the for the ESKA
and the predicament they find themselves in. So the employ
a couple thousand people.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So stay tuned, Okay, give us a word on China.

Speaker 11 (09:13):
China, so I've said there's been concerns around deflation and
price competition and the like, so there's some hopeful signs here.
So the CPI in July was unchanged from a year earlier,
so there have been expectations for a point one percent
decline in June that had broke a four month fallen streak.
Still a lot of factory deflation in there, mic of course,
the government has launched a campaign to try and curb

(09:36):
cutthroat competition, so perhaps a little bit too early to
say whether this is working. And also noted that people's
perceptions of prices are still they're going to be in decline,
and that's been a case for a year or so now.
So I suppose the good news for China is that
overseas demand and the exports are doing quite well despite
used tariffs. But they really need to address this involution

(09:59):
as they call it. They have said that the disorderly
competition will be their top priority, they said that at
the meeting last month.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
But perhaps a.

Speaker 11 (10:06):
Little way to go yet before that's address. But some
positive signs.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Okay, numbers please.

Speaker 12 (10:12):
So we had a record for.

Speaker 11 (10:14):
The nasdeck on Friday, so that was up one percent
twenty one four to fifty. The Dow was up tourhn
and six points forty four one seven five is in
P five hundred that was up point eight percent sixty
three eight nine for two one hundred, down point one percent.
The nikeye up almost two percent forty one eight twenty,
so they had a good week. Asex two hundred down
point three percent eight eight zero seven, ins x fifty

(10:35):
we were down point three percent.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Twelve eight four four.

Speaker 11 (10:38):
Gold, Yeah, whipped a high and then it whipped back,
getting up up a dollar forty three to three nine seven.
Oil that was flat sixty three spot eighty eight. Just
in the currency markets, we're lower against the US dollar
fifty nine point six, austraighting dollar ninety one point three,
slightly lower.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Also slightly lower.

Speaker 11 (10:54):
Against the British pound forty four point three and the
British excuse me, the Japanese yen eighty eight point zero.
That was upo point three percent. So this week, as usual,
lots going on, Mike. We've got the earning season kicking
off here, We've got amongst and we've got a three v's.
We've got Vista Viral Healthcare and Ventia locally, card spinning numbers,
food inflation, visit arrivals, manufacturing PMI. I'm sure use inflation,

(11:17):
China use retail sales. The big one over the RBA
meetes are expected to carts. They might put some heed
on the rbn Z obviously due to meet next week.
And then on earning's front, we've got ten cent Cisco
and agricultural Giant deer Inco catch up.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
So I appreciated Greg Smith Devon Fund's management. I've got
the lab out of the state's two undred and forty
two million in revenue for the three months. Not bad.
They're still not making money. They need the neutron to
take off, and that's been delayed. Of course, if you
followed that particular company, SoftBank did well, searched thirteen percent
and back here T and G Global they do apples
and other stuff net profit. They did have a loss
of eighteen million. They've now got a profit at one
point seven, expanding into stone fruit and berries. They got

(11:54):
acquisitions in Central at Target, the Pacific Islands, Figi, Queens
and so it seems relatively positive, which we like. Six
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Speaker 1 (12:08):
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Speaker 2 (12:15):
Some will fall for I suppose there'll be a headline
hung Parliament. There's a poll out this morning, Taxpayer Union
Caurier poll. It makes literally no sense because it was
taken between the third and the fifth of August. The
reason I say so, Top is on two point six
percent up one point four, so obviously that's not real.
The Outdoors and Freedom Parties on one point one up one,
and Fression New Zealand is on zero point four up

(12:39):
zero point four, so you can dismiss all of that,
which means the rest of the numbers don't make any sense.
The headline will be Labor overtakes National. They've gained two
to thirty three, National drop two to thirty one, so
National thirty three to thirty one. Greens are but hold
at about nine, say ten, actually nine point eight. Act
are down a half point to eight and a half.
New Zealand first down a couple to seven point eight.

(13:01):
The Murray Party drop zero point three to three point two.
So the point of all of that being is that
when you add the seats together, the center right of
sixty one the center left are sixty one six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year out.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, thing's pretty hot Viraly this morning. One is Pete
Hitseth sharing a video from pastors saying women shouldn't be
allowed to vote. Will be president. We'll have more with
Charles on that before seven o'clock. The other's a trailer
for a movie called Adulthood. Siblings looking after the house
of their sick mum when they come across a dead
body in the basement.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
I'll come home.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Wow, I don't think I've been down there like a deckhead.
Jesus christys that the smell.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
I had movie notes in that basement.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
Do you know me?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Ours plea station?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
I played on that couch.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Now that's my virginity on that couch.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Our parents are murderers if this fits out.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Your kids will think Manna is the killer?

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Are you aware about a body was found in Seneca.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Quarie a body?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
No, so.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
We've found three bodies in your connected all.

Speaker 13 (14:09):
We need to cover our tracks, have a good day,
make good choice.

Speaker 12 (14:13):
Then what are we the League of Shadows?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
So Josh Gad he's from Wedding Ring of Frozen Pixels,
all that stuff. And Kayla Scadalaria, who we love because
she was in the Gentleman, Star of the Gentleman, The
Star of the Gentleman cinemas September nineteen. They obviously don't
back that work well because they have got it on
digital as of the twenty third of September. So you
got food. You got four days at the cinema before
we rolled it off through the screaming. Now, big ideas

(14:40):
it could part of the renewable story be offshore wind.
Is it possible to do offshore wind? There's interest, it's
billions of dollars worth of private investment, it's plenty of
jobs and a lot of operational money coming into the region.
What region. We'll have a look at the prospects of
offshore wind after the news which is next here It
news to observ.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The Mike
Hunting breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential,
commercial and rural news talks.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Heead b Darns Peldman shortly in the States to work
out what's the Celestia, what this Alaska thing's going or
how it's going to unfold and where exactly it is
and he's involved, et cetera. Anyway more shortly twenty three
to seven nixt step in our renewable power journey could
be off shore when Belgian company park Wind is exploring
a large scale farm in South Taranaki could be backed
by that five billion in private investment. This is potential

(15:31):
of one hundred million in annual operations to the region.
Peter Spencer is the country manager of park when New
Zealand and as well as Peter morning to you. How
reel is this?

Speaker 14 (15:42):
It's real.

Speaker 15 (15:43):
It's being built good time all around the world, including
over the ditch with cousins in Australia, so they're going
big on it, and certainly in Europe it's been they've
been building off for a whin since about twenty twenty,
so it's certainly out there and it's an opportunity for
New Yealand if we choose.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
To prove it do we have the regulatory framework set to.

Speaker 15 (16:07):
Go, it's in the pipeline, so the government is working
on it at the moment. There's a few sticking points
that we are trying to work through with them, but
there's certainly that their team to get it done and
it needs to be done right.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
How do you fit in to solar, onshore wind, geothermal, rain,
the whole thing. Are you a major player or a
bit player?

Speaker 15 (16:33):
I think yeah. I think what offsh wind offers the
on shore afornives don't is just the scale of them.
So like, for instance, an offshore wind farm somewhere like
South Caronette that could have the same power output as
something like MANATORI. So it would be if we built that,
it would be one of the biggest power stations in

(16:54):
the company, in the in the in the country. So
far far larger scale than you would get from on
sure projects which tend to be quite small. And you know,
I think no one's pitching now offs your wind to
be built tomorrow, But you know, kind of mid twenty
thirties when a lot of the best on sure alternatives
have already been developed. Then it's something's very valuable for

(17:18):
your gem to have this large scale project that can
be built in the mid twenty thirties and make sure
that we have a secure and really resilient energy.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, if you went go tomorrow, how long would it
take to build?

Speaker 15 (17:36):
So we would be looking at about seven years of feasibility,
which is about going out there during your environmental studies,
during your geotechnical studies. Once you've done that, and if
you have a project that stacks up commercially, you would
then spend about three years to build it and then
it would become operational. So operational probably from around mid

(17:57):
twenty thirty five.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, who's done it?

Speaker 11 (18:00):
Well?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Who do we look at?

Speaker 15 (18:02):
The European the other masters? Are it? Australians? The DM
very well, like specially in Victoria. They're really kind of
following the best practice from Europe and so luckily us
on this kind of following Australia. So I think we're
going about it the right way. There is just a few,
you know, a few things we need to sort out.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Good stuff will go well. Nice to talk to you,
appreciate the inside. Peter Spencer who and apologies for the
phone line he was in facts sitting on a propeller
three hundred kilometers offshore, or I might have made that
up one or the other. Country manager for Park Went
nineteen to seven.

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Exactly, it's a fight to the death.

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Speaker 2 (21:01):
John Hilman, This morning, Child's morning to you.

Speaker 17 (21:05):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Now I'm discipal. When are they going to tell us
where this meeting is? I mean, yes, it's Alaska, but
where I'm assuming it's a military basele somewhere.

Speaker 17 (21:14):
I would presume so. And as for when I'm guessing
in the next couple of days, we'll learn. It's hard
to keep that kind of thing, you know, a secret.
But it is an interesting location because I kind of
wonder whether or not mister Trump intends to sell Alaska
back to the Russians, because of course the US bought

(21:35):
it from Russia back in the eighteen hundreds. But it
should be an interesting meeting. But it's controversial, as you know,
it's because so far it doesn't appear as if Ukraine
is going to be part of that, although that apparently
is still up in the air to some degree. But
you know, Trump and the White House have signaled a

(21:55):
willingness to make concessions to the Vladimir Prutin that I'm
that's so shor Zelensky Ukraine is willing to go along.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
With exactly, And of course he'll be under Trump will
be onder tremendous pressure this week if he isn't already
with JD in Europe and the Europeans trying to get
Zelensky involved in all of this. I don't know where
this guy's meantime in Gaza. So the announcements been made,
vir role in the US is signing at the UN.
So does anything change here either? Childs For goodness, Psycho,
haven't we seen the story before?

Speaker 17 (22:25):
We sort of have seen this story before. And of
course you're referring to the fact that Netnyahu has indicated
that they're going to go ahead with their plan to
occupy all of Gaza's city, but they already occupy most
of Gazas so that would kind of make it as
a facto occupation of that entire territory. But you're right,

(22:47):
I mean, the United States is not going along with
what seems to be pretty much an international condemnation of
Israel for doing this. And since the US has veto
power at the United Nations in the security count so
than any motions to condemn Israel at that level is
going to go nowhere. And in terms of Hamas, there's

(23:07):
no indication that Amas is backing down. So it looks
like this the fight is going to go on for
quite some time.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Right, And then we get to Higgs that I alluded
to this earlader on the program, Higgs saith in his video,
how weird is this?

Speaker 14 (23:24):
Well, it's very weird.

Speaker 17 (23:25):
I mean what we're talking about, of course, is that
he reposted a video from a pastor and a church
that he has an affinity for. He's a member of
one of the congregations, and in this video, you know,
they talk about, for one thing, women not having shouldn't
have the right to vote. So by reposting it, it

(23:46):
would suggest that the Defense Secretary is going along with that.
That's a very unusual thing for any US official, let
alone somebody at his level to post on social media.
So you know, he's getting criticism, but he's also getting
I should point out on Twitter X he's actually getting
a lot of people who are supportive of what he's done,

(24:08):
which is also surprising.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
All Right, Charles catch up Wednesday. Appreciated very much, Charles Pelman,
and for Richard Arnold for this coming week.

Speaker 12 (24:15):
Let me just give you this.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
This was interesting that we've got numbers behind the tariffs.
I note that mclay's up there, having told us last week.
This is the Prime Minister having told us last week
we don't stand a hope in hell of reducing it
from fifteen to ten. And maclay also being on the
program saying that he was told by gris and not
to come up until later on the year. He's up
there now trying to twist their arms. So we'll get
the update on that shortly. But anyway, the Budget Lab

(24:37):
at Yale University has come up with some numbers. So
the average effect of tariff imposed by the US on
various countries around the world now is eighteen point six percent.
That's average, which is up from two point four so
there's been a material change. Tariff revenues twenty eight billion,
triple the monthly revenue scene in twenty twenty four, so
they're bringing the money in, there's no question about that.

(24:57):
But the Congressional Budget Office say it would reduce cumulative
government borrowing in ten years to twenty thirty five or
two and a half trillion. So far, so good, right. However,
they also judge that the tariffs would shrink the size
of the US economy relative to how it would perform
without tariffs, and that is the value of free trade,

(25:17):
of course, that we understand in this part of the world.
They also project that the additional revenues generated from the
tariff will be more than offset by the revenue lost
due to the Trump administration's tax cuts over the next decade.
So one of the impacts of Trump's trade war so
far has been to increase the number of imports into
the country. Because everyone panicked, of course, and stockpiled, US

(25:39):
exports have only increased modestly. The net result is that
the US goods trade deficit has not fallen. In fact,
it has blown out. It has reached a level of
one hundred and sixty two billion dollars in March alone,
falling back to eighty six billion in June. So, in
other words, for all the noise about the money coming in,
it is true, but the full picture is only partially true,

(26:03):
and it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that
tariffs overall don't work.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Ten to seven the Mike casting Breakfast with Rainthrow bun
use togged head Ben.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
I am reading over the weekend that loud luxury is back.
Loud luxury will replace quiet luxury. And the only reason
we're replacing quiet luxury is because the world is facing
headwinds at the moment. People aren't spending as much on
quiet luxury. The thinking being that when you buy quiet luxury,
you can't be seen. You don't know what it is,
you don't know that it's luxury. Whereas if you slap
a great, big label and put it, make it yellow,

(26:37):
make it loud luxury, people will go, oh, that's cool.
He's obviously spend some money on his clothing. More importantly
than that is the share price of Crocs has tanked.
I don't believe this. They claim that North American consumers
are buying into a quote unquote clear athletic trend ahead
of next year's Football World Cup. Do you honestly believe
that fat Americans are going well? Next year we're going

(26:59):
to have the Football World Cup. I'm not gonna wear
any Crocs. I'm gonna go out and buy myself some poovers.
I don't think so anyway, Kroc sales around six and
a half percent quote unquote from them Crocs. There's a
concerning second half of the year China. They're still doing
all right because of the influences very big on the
old TikTok the Crocs. But I only started wearing Crocs
about three or four months ago, and I certainly don't

(27:20):
want to be caught out.

Speaker 12 (27:23):
Well, but that's the problem. I mean, you've you've been
wearing them for that long.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Any signs of wear and tear on them add.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
No sign of willness here. They are a quality vehicle.

Speaker 12 (27:32):
So maybe they've made a ride for their own back there.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Nobody's buying new Crocs because the old crucks are still going.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Katie said, it's the ripoffs because you can buy Crocs
and aren't Crocs and they're a lot cheap. And she
I think she's probably right, She's all right.

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Not crocks.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
YEA, let's be honest, She's always right. Five minutes away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
All the inns are the outs. It's the fizz with
business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Little bit of food trouble supply costs. This is the
older in metrics grossery supply cost index this morning, and
average increase of two point two percent. It's not bad
two point two percent. The good news is increases aren't
spreading to as many items. We got about three thousand
items seeing an increase, which is down considerably on where
it once was. Butchery now, butchery costs are up. So

(28:18):
meats increased two point one percent. Beef and lamb prices
up across the board, particularly statements and roasts. Yes, and
that's international prices because we're selling like we never had.
But also livestock prices are up twenty percent year on year,
so the farmer is doing well. Fish pillating costs so
whoever's filleting fish is charging more.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Is this all knife related?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
It looks like knife related, doesn't it. And probably if
you looked into knives, knives are probably more expensive as well.
Blade costs. Oh my god. Other notable increases continue in chocolate.
We've heard that story before. Toilet paper and paper towels.
You really need a paper towel, I mean, honestly, you
really need a payper twel.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Well, what do you put over your plate in the
microwave to stop it from scattering?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
The fear coup I was going to say, toilet paper.
But that's just stupid, isn't it? If you avoid the chocolate,
what have we got? What's cheaper? Broccoli yum yum, Cauliflower
not so young, capsicum, oh super young. They're all down.
They're all cheaper. So don't freak out because constant creases
chilled food, so buy fresh. You see you chilled thing,
don't worry about it. Child is up three point six percent.

(29:19):
What's that about? Bad news for oils, your veggie oils,
your palm. You shouldn't use palm, peanut you shouldn't use
peanut either. Olive oil and we all know about that.
That's up twenty four percent globally. I don't know what
you can do about that. You do need paper towels,
don't you. I just I was thinking about soup yets.
I mean, do we still use sub We like a
good suit, we speak. You're using a lot of oil.
You we need your towel, and you're dribbling visas. We've

(29:43):
got some more visas coming your way to them. We'll
give you the details and just a couple of mosie.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
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Speaker 2 (29:59):
Seven past seven more movement over the weekend in attracting
the right people into the country to fill labor gaps.
This is the Global Workforce VISA will target specialized workers
over a three year period, allowing them to basically come
and go. Pig Seasonal VISA will focus on short term
agri and agriculture things like that for up to seven months.
David Cooper as the CEO director at to Malcolm Pacific
Immigration and is with it's David, very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (30:20):
Good morning mate, makes sense and fill the gaps absolutely.
Look the Minister of Immigration Ericus Stanford, she's listened to
industry and she's mailed it. She solved a big problem.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Why didn't we solve a big problem before? Because what
she's done, although sensible, doesn't strike me as particularly complex
or is it.

Speaker 18 (30:40):
Well, it's not complex if you're listening. But if you're
not listening and you're doing what you think is right
and you're not listening to industry, then things don't get fixed.
And for the last eighteen months in the immigration space,
the Minister's been fixing all the problems.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
The come and go. Aspect of it was that a
key is he to move?

Speaker 18 (31:02):
Yeah, well, look these particularly if you look at something
like the snow industry, for example, these are young people.
They come in, they do a season, and then they
head away. And that's no different to what kiwis.

Speaker 17 (31:16):
Do.

Speaker 18 (31:16):
You go to Aspen, you go to Hofgarten, you'll hear
Kiwi's working on the ski slopes, right, Just what happens
in that particular industry.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
The agri stuff is, have we given up on the
unemployed in this country? We have more of than five
point two percent as of last week. Have we given
up on getting locals to do it? It's just too hard?

Speaker 18 (31:33):
Well, I don't think it's that, Mike. I think it's
the seasonal nature of the job. They're in places where
not a lot of keywis particularly want to be. It's
messy work, it's not particularly pleasant and it's hard to
attract people. So that's why these employers are having to
bring people in from offshore.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
What's your sense of demand? Are we still attractive?

Speaker 18 (31:57):
Take a look at our Golden visa. We're up to
the only two hundred and seventy applications and four months
were at over one point six billion dollars and four months.
The best this visa ever did in the past was
a billion dollars a year. We are attractive, people want
to come here.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Good. Would it help if they could buy a house?

Speaker 4 (32:19):
You bet?

Speaker 18 (32:19):
It would supercharge the interest in this visa. And it
wouldn't help just the interest, Mike. It would get people
committed because they'd spend time in our communities and they'd
do more for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
More common sense, David, always enjoy your company, David Couber,
the CEO director of Malcolm Pacific Immigration. If we can
get this sorted out the way he claims we have
once again, you know Erica Stanford strikes. I mean, how
many good op eds did she get herself last week
with the NCAA stuff. So she seems to have solved immigration.
If it's that easy and we have now done the
right thing, why is it taking us till twenty twenty five,

(32:53):
ten minutes past seven tasking Now I got some travel
at north Police putting more resource into Northland, had a
burst of violent crime officers currently being sent on five
week rotation. Superintendent to Matt Sir Huey is the Northland
District commander and as well as Matt. Very good morning
to you, morning mate. Is that the four homicides that's
tipped you over resource wise?

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 14 (33:16):
I suppose it was the tipping point for us. Might
we had four on quite quick succession. They take up
a huge amount of investigative resource.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
So that's the aftermath of the event and working through
the investigation, the paperwork, tidying it up, that's what would
suck you drive you didn't have the extra people coming
into the region.

Speaker 14 (33:38):
Yeah, that's right, and we have to draw obviously our
investigative polls from other inquiries that they're working on to
complete that. So you know, it's quite unusual to have
that many in such a short space of time. So
when we put the call out, I think it's the
real blessing and advantage I think of having a a

(34:00):
national police force.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Given that it is unusual. Does that mean this is
kind of a one off and you wouldn't expect it
to become a thing?

Speaker 14 (34:09):
I certainly hope. So, Mike, you know, there's obviously, you know,
no guarantees about some of these things. Some of these
things can be a bit random. But yeah, definitely, it
was definitely unusual.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Have you got a time frame when things can go
back to normal so to speak.

Speaker 14 (34:26):
It's, you know, we're in a much better space at
the moment over the last three months, with the support
we've had from around the country. It's, you know, given
us a chance to sort of, I suppose, get back
on top of things, a little bit of it to
continue as long as it can. But you know, obviously
these are busy people that are giving up their time

(34:47):
and their districts are giving up their people to come
and support us. So at some point they've got to
get back to their place.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, good luck with it. Appreciate it very much. Mats
So has the Northern District commander twelve and it's past seven,
for instance, said when you show twenty one to five,
as in May foreign buyers announcement will not be in
the budget but will be announced soon. Luckson said, on
your show twenty eight to seven, announcement will be with
than a week or two. How hard can this be?
Harder than you think? Clearly, I pepper Luxon every time
he walks into the studio off here. I pepper him

(35:14):
every single week and go, where the hell are you
with this? They're negotiating around the numbers. It is, They're
all across the line. It's just a time frame thing.
But it's a classic example of why things don't have
to be as hard as they sometimes appear to be.
Willo jen Prime what a rock star. So, having been

(35:34):
exposed so shockingly on Friday to be a combination of
incompetent and lazy, she then goes and doubles down. So
unfortunately for criss Hipkins, they have a meeting over the weekend,
the Labor Party get together. So the only question anyone
asks him about that is how useless as Willow gene Prime,
or words to that effect. So her defense appears to

(35:56):
be that she was busy, far too busy, engaging with
the sector to reply to an email from Erica Stanford.
She was engaging with the sector. She came away with
the impression, and this is how to be blunt, this
is how thick she is. She came away with the
impression that they the sector did not know what the

(36:17):
government was doing. Quote it was very secretive. Quote nobody
knew anything or could not speak to anything. So my
and of course no one at this point asked her this.
My question would have been given you came away Willow
Jean from the sector with the impression that everything was secretive.
Would it not behoove you to engage with Minister Stanford?

(36:42):
Who oh, hang on has invited you to engage, so
you don't have to be in the dark anymore. Oh look,
I probably could have said, this is why I need
to take my time, and please assure me or assure
me that I can have the time that I need
to do this. Does any of that make any sense? Anyway?
The upshot of it all was by the time Hipkins
turned up on the station yesterday, she apparently had learnt

(37:05):
a lot. I don't believe a word of that. Fourteen
past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
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Speaker 2 (37:17):
Chris Lackson after do we really want to ask about
Albanezi over the weekend? Literally? Did anything happen there? I
mean apart from the two of them got together in
a room. Good on them, I mean, there's nothing wrong
with catching up. But yet again we asked for a
ceasefire on Gaza. Yet again we say how cold it is,
We lay a wreath, we say we're good friends, then
we go home. That was about It wasn't it? Was

(37:37):
there something more that I missed? I got more good
news on farming. Not surprisingly, we're seeing a search and
young people wanting to be farmers. Should I ask him
about whether Chloe Swarbrick should become the finance minister Growing
Future Farmers. He can say anything and get on the
news these days. I'd like to be a finance minister.

(37:58):
Chloe's Warbrick announcers, she'd like to be a finance min is.
Growing Future Farmers has received a record one hundred and
fifty student applications for its intake next year that exceeds
demand by the way, by nearly ninety percent. Wendy Paul
is the CEO of Growing Future Farmers. Wendy morning, than
good morning, mikeel you. I'm very well indeed, thank you.
Is this just an on flow of everyone looking at
a farm and going to tell you what life looks

(38:18):
good on the farm. I'll be a farmer. Is that
what's happening?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
I think there's a bit more to it than that, Mic,
but it's a good, good news story for agriculture.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
It's good. Do you have the people to train them?
At a ninety percent increase.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
No, Unfortunately, that's our constraint at the moment. We've got
some amazing farmers all around the country who do this
out of the goodness of their heart to make sure
we've got a future for the industry. But at the moment, yeah,
we've got a constraint. We've only got eighty placement and
one hundred and fifty young people wanting to get out
there in farming. So yeah, be call out to say
if you are interested to please just get hold of us,

(38:52):
because yeah, we don't want to turn so many young
people away.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
No, you do not how much of what you do
as opposed to what's done on a farm, Like I
mean the sun comes to dad and goes dad, I
want to carry on and they just train them there
and you'd never interface with them. How much what you
do is actual putting people into farms.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Well, all of our students are on real working farms
all around the country and they spend two years on
the farm, forty four weeks a year. They on the farm,
they do some practical skills that are linked to their
academic studies, and then obviously been in a rural community
in a farming environment, they learn a lot of really
good life skills, getting up early work ethic, good attitude. So, yeah,

(39:29):
they are on farm for forty four weeks of the year.
They're not learning in a classroom.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Well, by the time they get to you, are they
cognizant sort of of what's required, ours, dedication, heartbreak, weather,
the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
There's a real max mark because we have some that
are all farms and have had some flying background, and
then we get a couple out of the urban centers
that have never been on a farm in their life.
So I'd say even some of the farming kids sometimes
realize it's a little bit more than what they see
they're doing or assume dare to do or mom I
should say, But yeah, they part of the onboarding is

(40:03):
very much that first three months when they're on farmers,
getting them used to farm last and realizing what it's
all about.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Well, you can't beat a boom and demand. I wish
you well with you call out for some help there.
Wendy Wendy Paul, who's the Growing Future Farmer CEO, thoroughly
enjoyed the supercars yesterday at Ipswich. I hadn't seen Ipswich
before and I don't think it had been part of
the competition for a while, but the race yesterday. The
two on Saturday were okay, but the one yesterday was
super exciting. We might talk more about this with the
lads in the commentary box after eight, but I have

(40:30):
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twenty four. I don't know Alisha Milmine, but I wish
you nothing but the best. But as it turns out,
she is your new counselor in the car Huranaki seat

(41:52):
Hastings District Council. So she was standing against one person.
That person withdrew, so she wins by default. She got
no experience. You put a hand up, one person standing, congratulations,
jobs yours. What a stupid system. So this story is
far from unique. Of course, plenty of elections aren't even
held because no one stands, or people who may or
may not be any good don't get opponents, so they

(42:13):
win by default. So here's an idea, excepting we are
fantastically over governed, and clearly there are nowhere near the
number of people interested in filling the jobs. How about
we run a system whereby you have a minimum number
of candidates, like a quorum. If you don't get that
number of the voters off, the people if there are any,
do not contest that seat, and either the seat is
left vacant for a term, and or a commissioner or

(42:35):
overseer is appointed, like they've done in places like Towering
around that areas when the council falls apart. In other words,
you appoint an experienced expert. Having a vacant seat might
lead to more interest next time, or it might lead
to the realization there are too many seats. Having an
expert or a commissioner might lead to a realization that
amateur hour is no way to run a city or

(42:56):
a town or a district. We don't hand out regular
jobs by default. Why on earth do we do it
at the highest level of civic leadership. The scenario is
so desperate. We literally take anyone that's not smart running
a raffle far less a population, And yet here we
are with any number of councils, mide and debt and
handing out cost plus accounting rate rises because they don't

(43:17):
have a clue how to run anything properly. If someone
from Mars came down to review the way we do this,
they would fall over laughing at our stupidity. So it's
a contest, it's a quorum, or we do some appointing
of some actual talent. Now you tell me that's not
a bad idea. Asking as an MP for northernd Prime
might achieve very little, no treaty settlement, no roading, continue

(43:39):
poverty in housing, increased crime and unemployment. But she did
build herself a nice earth house, did she? Isn't it
true that Will a genius just as lazier Hipkins might
too early? Hasn't read that or this consistent disinterest until
challenged good leadership material yere right. It's not a bad point.
I mean they've been exposed very very badly, Hipkins. It
was when we left your Friday Hpkins wouldn't get up
four six o'clock to appear on Ryan's program. This going

(44:00):
wants to be the prime minister of a country doesn't
get up before six o'clock in the morning. Mike Erica
Stanford for Prime minister? Just before you keep texting me
that and thank you Sir. A lot of people say
that they're very impressed with Erica Stamford at the moment,
asn't he They should be just because she and I
don't know she isn't. But just because she's a good
minister doesn't means you be a good leader. Doesn't means
you be a good prime minister. She may well be,

(44:20):
but some people have skill sets in specific areas, like
you know, you can be good at one thing, but
doesn't mean you're good at being the boss. Mike another
pole with Labor a head. So your prediction doesn't stack up, Well,
it does stack up because I'll be proven to be right.
And a poll is but a snapshot in time if
you missed it. The latest Careier poll's got Labor overtaking national,
but it also has a lot of other random parties

(44:40):
like the top party booming and what were the other parties?
Don't even remember what the parties were, but they came
from now the living outside of pat exactly. There's about
four or five percentage points in that pole of parties
you've never heard of that have suddenly rocketed up, and
of course none of it makes any sense. So it's
a hung parliament at sixty one cents each. Mike seven
o'clock News Swarbrick would like to hold the finance portfolio.

(45:02):
You've got to be kidding me, Terry, I wish I was.
The news aforementioned is next, and then we will welcome
the Prime Minister to the studio.

Speaker 17 (45:12):
In't you.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
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Speaker 2 (45:30):
Three minutes away from Monday morning went to Prime Ministers
in the studio. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Good morning, Mike. I've just come from TV and ZEAD.
They said they'd take you for celebrity treasure roll all
they did today.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And I know, I bus said, I don't think you'll survive. No,
I know, I know if I enter, I win, I've
got a one.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Mine, you'd be hopeless at it. Let's be honest about it.
You come in here, well, no, no, you've got to
help me with all your questions.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I got to say.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I think, I mean, it's nice you're going to give
it a go, but I can't see you surviving without
your pig screen TV ranting and raving it.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
No, that's probably it's probably true. To be fair, did
you no insultant tendered at all? But did anything tangible
come out of the weekend with all? I mean apart
from we're all good friends and we all agree that
there needs to be a CE sprid et cetera.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
Yeah, here, and I've got quite a lot of sort
of regular contact their respective these sort of formal set
piece meetings. But the big thing was saying, hey, listen,
we've had this single economic market, we've had this cr
thing going for a while. We've got good you know,
we've made good progress on that over thirty years or so,
but we actually should revisit all of that and actually
say why on earth are our standards? And so we've
got our New Zealand standards, Australian standards bodies working together.

(46:34):
You've seen things like chartered accountancy bodies come together as
one organization. But he's got challenges within the states, within
the Australia that they sort of have differences of standards
and regulations and stuff. And if we can get rid
of some more of that stuff, it's not sexy stuff,
but it's actually does.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
So we will come out of that.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:50):
So we've got the leaders We met with the Australian
News Old Leadership Forum, which is CEOs on both sides
of big businesses on each side of the Tasman and
we've tasked them to think through what more we could
be doing just the dumb stuff that's just idiolic that
we should get rid of.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Okay, P and G. Since you were last ye year
up there and we've got looking for an embassy, Now,
what was the point of that?

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Well, P and g's quite important in the Pacific. It's
three quarters of the Pacific land mass, three quarters of
the Pacific population, and it's sort of I think I
said to eleven to fifteen million people did they have
to be on their census? And it's in the middle
of Asia and Pacific, and so it's actually quite an
important country in the region. And you know, we've it's
got growth, potentially young population and so there's actually New

(47:31):
Zealand businesses that have actually been doing quite well up
there and core infrastructure building and some development that's taking place.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
A lot was made of the fact you were there
when you could have been in the cooks but you're
not for obvious reasons.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
Was that deliberate? Well, I mean our message very clearly
to the Coxes. We've got an issue with Cook Island's government. Actually,
there's no political contact at this point where any officials
work through what we can do to mitigate the risks
that we see in those comprehensive strategic partnerships signed with
China we had. Our issue is not with the Cook
Islands people, but it is definitely with the Prime Minister
and with the government there, and we expect them to

(48:02):
engage with us on that conversation. So fifty year celebration,
fifty year anniversary of P and G independence and you
I was there.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Right, mixed message from you last week you said the
chances are fifteen percent, isn't coming down to ten. There's
not a lot we can do about it. Fair enough.
Why is McLean now in Washington?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Then?

Speaker 5 (48:19):
I think our official trade officials, and I thought McLay
was going, No, he's just he's been Indonesia.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
And ind just signed that I wanted, So he's not
going to Washington. Well, he will go, but I just.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Say it's not actually just about the tariffs. We actually need.
What I'm trying to do with our relationship with the
US since I started was to say it's not just
leaders to leader, you know, Trump and I, it's actually,
you know, it's actually making sure we know there's fifteen
to twenty people that we've got to build out across
that system. And so having ongoing dialogue conversation with him
is the right thing to keep doing, irrespective of, you know,

(48:49):
the fact we don't like the fifteen percent tariffs, and
we can keep talking about it, but we also have
to sort of accept I don't think it's changing, as
I said last week, Okay, fair, but him having an
ongoing dialogue is something I really want to see, Mike,
because I think in the past we've just been very
reliant on a prime minister and a president occasionally being
able to talk. And in there, you need to talk.
Pick up the phone to big senators, you need to
pick up the phone to other sectories in the cabinet.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Okay, Indonesia, what did we get out of that? By
the way, because that got no coverage? Is and agricultural deal?
Was that dollars? Is it actual dollars?

Speaker 13 (49:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:17):
I mean Indonesia's one that we really want to work
quite hard at. And I was due to go there
earlier in the year and for a number of reasons,
domestic issues, it didn't happen. I met with Praboo, who
I got on very well with. But that's a massive economy.
It's the largest economy in Southeast Asia. And the Australians
have always done a good job since Keating and hawk
On building out their relationship with Indonesia, and we've been

(49:37):
you know, not haven't done that, and so we've got
to build the relationship and get the connectivity in their
Winston's got a good relationship with the team, the leadership there,
Todd's building of the trade relationships, and it's a bit
like the Indian experience, like we had to build that
relationship back over a year period before we could then
get in and do the I'm to do more conversationship.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Shane Jones met with the gas users, Big gas users
on is there anything coming out? I mean, what's the
point We're out of gas, We're running out of gas.
What's the point of a meeting?

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:04):
Well, I mean, well, first thing is we've put in
place of strategic coal reserve to make sure we don't
end up in the disaster that we've had in the past.
So people may not like the coal, but welcome. New
Zealand's now the only country doing the transition from domestic
guess international coal by virtue of the problems of the
previous administration, and we've put the legislation in place to
end the oil and gas band. There are real challenges
about how do you actually get someone here incentivized to

(50:26):
actually explore for and actually get gas out of New Zealand.
That's been the chilling effect of that decision of any
oil and gas. If you're a big global multinational, you're
not putting hundreds of millions of dollars of assets in here.
So we've had to design that legislation to make sure
they understand that, you know, we're happy to co invest
with them to actually build back that.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Top two hundred million dollars. But equally, Balance announcers last
week they're running out of gas in September. They've got
a contract problem at that point. So is moderately important
given way I don't know a farming nation.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
So there are two big gas supplies, you know, Balance
and also Methanathma, and both of them have actually been
running down their production over the last four years.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
You can't have companies closing.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
But this is what the point I've been trying to
make is it's a lovely bumper sticker. It really is
great to say you want to end the oil and
gas bad but when you don't think through the second
and third order consequences of that, people end up losing
their jobs and good people. We don't want people coming
out of that sector and losing their jobs. So what
they can do at the moment is the gas that
they have, they've got to ration and reallocate and use

(51:24):
and all that sort of stuff. But that doesn't get
you far.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
It does not.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Jones also mused about special economic zones, particularly up in Northland.
You did that late last week. It's not a coalition thing,
but is there something in that.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
I've looked at specially economic zones because I was quite
a fan, you know, years ago. But the reality is
we're actually quite small and we should be able to say,
for goodness, say what we do in a special economic zone,
we should be able to do across the whole of
New Zealand. So, you know, getting the RMA sorted, I
personally think taking out regional councils, you know, that stuff
that Bishop will introduce by the end of the year.

(51:58):
The stuff that he's doing in the next week or
two around what's called Amendment Bill two will sort of
help get the thing moving a bit quicker.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Before you went to Queenstown, Hipkins was in Queenstown alluding
to the fact he may well run on capital gains tax.
Would you be happy to run a campaign.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
I'll bring that on. I mean, like, you know, honestly,
if you seriously think a wealth tax, a capital gains
tax or inheritance tax. The thing that I was quite
alarmed about. You had Chloe Swarbrooks saying she wants to
be Finance Minister, and you didn't have Chriss Hipkins defend
Barb Redmonds. He didn't say he didn't rule it. He
didn't rule it out right, and that you know she
wants to add what forty four billion dollars worth of
more debt eighty eight billion dollars worth of taxes. I'm

(52:36):
telling you it's very interesting. I know, if you've followed
what's happening in the UK some of the changes that
haven't made with their taxes. I've had CEOs and wealthy
people leave with capital very very quickly, and that would
happen here in his Zealand hard day, two billion pound
our wealth creators and our generators. I'm telling you people
don't want to hear it, but they would take off well.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
To be fair, the Maori Party would provide the balance.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Then with that three will it would be a wonderful
cabinet with Chloe as your Finance minister, co prime minister's
Rowori Debbie who else? We got to the mrama.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
As much as you may laugh the Qurier poll out
the smaller has labor in front of you, explain it.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
Well, pretty tough time. I mean I don't go into
poles because every time there is a different pole every
week in this country, and people don't want me to
talking about myself for poles. I think the big trend
is pretty obvious. People expect us to fix the economics
as simple as that. So fix it and then in
twenty twenty six they'll make that call.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
The boot camps eight out of ten reoffended. You guys, still,
so it's a success. How do you defend it?

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Well, I mean the point is these are the toughest
kids in the country. We've got to do something different
because we were in a pretty bad place. The boot camps.
There are elements of it worked well. When the kids
are actually in the academies that went great, we'd probably
want to extend that time to give them more that
we clearly didn't manage the there's more work to do
and manage them back into the community. And yes, there

(53:52):
was reoffending that took place, But I just say, look,
I mean people say I'll give up on the boot
camps with points, Well we should. We've got to try
doing something right. I mean, you just can't care leaving.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
No, you can't. But then the cost was the fact
that I mean the amount of money you're pumped into,
which it was enormous, it.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Was I get it, and it was a good you know.
So we've got to take the learnings out of that
pilot and actually sort of you know, get I think
a longer academy phase and better community support for these
tough kids. They've actually got a choice to make. All
we're trying to do is give them an option to say,
you know, we know where your life's going. It's a
bad trajectory. You've got a chance to turn it around
and do something different. This is that intervention to do it.
But I just say, the thing that's really encouraging is

(54:27):
that actually our youth offending is down thirteen percent, ram
raids are down almost sixty percent, and so that a
general approach that we've had around consequences as got through
to young people. And that's a good thing to see.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
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Speaker 1 (54:41):
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Speaker 2 (54:48):
It'd be interesting thing I read over the weekend on parking.
You know where you go to a hospital in this
country and of course you can't find parking anywhere because
the local council's killed the parking, so you've got to
use the building near as the hospital, and the building
near is the hospital charges you're and so they put
some numbers around that. And the claim is that Health
New Zealand is working to quote unquote standardize its approach
to car parking across the country, whatever that means. Anyway,

(55:10):
they brought in twenty three million dollars from parking chargers.
So you're not there because you're going shopping, you're there
to visit a relative. And the unfortunate thing about parking
at hospitals is by and large nothing happens in a
hospital quickly, and therefore you're there for ages. Therefore the
bill goes through the roof. And we every single one
of us know somebody who's been in hospital and or
had people visiting people in hospital that they had to

(55:31):
go back day after day after day after day after day,
and they basically ran themselves bankrupt. Parking the worst, not surprisingly,
is white Matter in Auckland. Are They're two separate places.
By the way, white Matter pulled in six point six
million dollars. Now here's the thing I ask you. Last
year they pulled in five point nine million dollars in parking,
right this past year it was six point six. So
when from five point nine to six point six, why

(55:54):
what happened? Apart from the fact you put the price
up because you can Auckland went from four point two
to five point eight that same massive increase. Why apart
from the fact you could round the rest of the country,
it's not as bad. Canterbury one point five to one
point seven, Capitol and Coast two point eight to three
point one. Hut Valley actually went backwards. How come the

(56:15):
Hut Valley went backwards but everyone else went out? I
just don't care about the relatively it could be there
no one visits. Ohs Nana's in there. Oh well we
went last time. That was boring. We're not going again.
But something's not right about parking. Are they gouging or
is it just the cost of living? And it's not
really their fault that there aren't parks on the street
because the council's gone and destroyed it. It's a lot

(56:35):
of money though, wasn't it eight minutes away from it?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
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Speaker 2 (56:41):
In Mike hung Parliament. How desperate are some of these
polsters for a winter headline? Well that you can't barbar
you can't blame them. They don't make it up. I
question sometimes their methodology, but nevertheless they don't make it up.
Morning Mike, I think this was one of your better
interviews with the Prime ministeries growing in confidence, answering your questions.
Don't believe the Poles national will be thirty seven to
forty two percent range by the election, Gary, there'll be

(57:04):
more thirty seven to forty twos. Think about this friendly
enough this morning. I think we've got to get past,
and I don't think most people have caught up with
a modern political reality, and that is that your Greens
and act in New Zealand first. These days are here
for the long haul. The days when we have an
election where we go, oh, do you think they'll make
the five percent? Maybe they will, maybe they won't, those
days are gone. I can confidently sit here eighteen months
out from an election and tell you that the Greens

(57:26):
act in New Zealand First, without a shadow of a doubt,
will be back now and depending on how far back
they will be. But I mean, you've got to realistically
look at the Greens. The Greens consistently poll at ten
nine ten. They don't pull so well on the day itself,
so they're a good eight. I reckon, they're all roughly
within a margin. They're about eight each rough So you're
suddenly at twenty four to twenty five percent. So think

(57:47):
about it that way. You've only got seventy five percent
of the vote left. So the days of the major
parties getting to forty two percent had gone short of
one of the major parties completely collapsing. I mean of hipkins,
you know, quetes and as a vacuum or if Luxon
gets rolled and we all get sick of national and
in fighting the way history tells us we have previously. Yes,

(58:07):
a major party can collapse, but all things being equal,
I think Hipkins will go to the election. I think
Luxem will go to the election. So nothing dramatic is
going to happen. So, all things being equal, the days
of the major parties being at forty plus percent are gone.
So the media has got to stop that they're nowhere
near the forty percent mark. They're never going to be
near the forty percent mark again. This is the maturation

(58:27):
basically of MMP, where there's a good number of parties
to select from. They're all reasonably and safely above the
five percent threshold. They are in play. You listen to
their policies, you look at the masinations and you work
out who's going to run the country center left or
center right. That's basically what it boils down to. So
you're back down to seventy five percent for the rest
of the parties once you've got rid of the Greens
the Act New Zealand. First, you've got the Mari Party

(58:49):
in there, which is sort of a problem given that
there are an electric type party as opposed to a
five percent, but they're worth two maybe three percent, So
you're down into the low seventies. Now you've got a
couple of percent at any given time for the wacko
parties that'll be vote that's burned down. So you're really
down at seventy percent. Split it evenly, it's thirty five max.
And if one does better than the other, it's thirty

(59:09):
six thirty four something like that. So the days are
the big numbers for the major parties are well and
truly gone right. You want to do the numbers for
the Warriors sitting this morning at thirty win three of four,
thirty six, thirty eight. Maybe are we top four? Top eight?
Is it over the lads? In the commentary box? Next
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Speaker 12 (59:53):
Carl will be the hapside bothmor you finish on twenty two.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
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Speaker 3 (59:58):
Big win.

Speaker 19 (01:00:00):
Has been forty nine from other work two seventeen May
Queen teen go two from two in the NBC thirty
nine twenty two over County's Monago, and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
That's a convincing one to care debury feeding the Warriors.

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Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Go from Pine Andrews trouble both with us Monday Morning
Money fellas Mike Andrew Peter Lester, you will have known him, well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yes, I did. Got to know him obviously during America's
Cup time, especially more so here when it was held
on Auctum what three or four years ago. Great man,
great sailor, great sailing brain, but was able to put
that great sailing brain to use for the general public.
Always really good at explaining things in layman's terms, if

(01:00:56):
you like Mike's. So yeah, what a what a great loss?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Did you know?

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
I'm Jason over the weekend.

Speaker 20 (01:01:04):
Only through interviewing him and having him on many times.
Mike never got the chance to meet Peter Lester. But
exactly what sav said. I think his great strength which
not all former athletes and sports people have when they
come across the broadcasting as his ability to break it
all down to take the jargon out and there's a
lot of jargon and sailing as we know, and make

(01:01:25):
us all understand it. So yeah, a real loss, and
as I understand it, you know, was in great shape.
A real shock to everybody who found this news out
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, seventies a bit makes you feel a bit mortal.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Sav You'd always see him walking through the viaduct, Mike
hannd Trim and in his jandles. He loved a good
pair of jandles. The Lester name synonymous with sailing in
Littleton and Banks Peninsula. And he was a huge Rugby
found a huge Crusaders fan. So yeah, big, big loss.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Jason the Warriors. It's over so pardon no, it's over.
Do it's top eight, top four. I mean, do you do,
either of you guys do the numbers in the sceense?
I mean, I think we'll win the three of the
last four. Let's say that we should win four or four.
But say we win three, we'll end up at thirty six.
That will that get us top four? I mean I'm

(01:02:21):
looking at the top four now, the Panthers on thirty one,
they're only a point above us and we get an
easy run.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
The problem is you've got the Bronco, Sharks, Dolphins, Regina
and a couple of those teams are running into real
strong form.

Speaker 20 (01:02:36):
I would say, though, the Panthers the Panthers, and I've
decided to be positive about this, Mike. The Panthers have
the Storm, the Raiders and the Bulldogs over the next
three weeks, so they play the other three teams in
the top four. They are only one point ahead of
the Warriors. The Panthers look, they're in great form nine
in a row and they could easily win all three

(01:02:56):
of those games, but they have a tough run. And
ye Warriors though they don't feel like a top four
side anymore, do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
No, they don't.

Speaker 12 (01:03:04):
That's the main problem.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And if we're not top four. First of all, if
you're not top four, you don't win the competition.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
That's that's right, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
And that's just a statement of fact. And even if
you look, we're not good enough.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
The injuries have been well known. But now I think
you know that heavy loss to the Bulldogs over the
weekend some worrying signs that they'll make. Don't look, thirty
points usually gets you into the eight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Oh, we'll be in the eighth, but that's not the
point of the eight.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Yeah, but yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I mean we're top we're top four and nothing as
far as I can say, I mean, that's that's I
think ultimately, Jason, what will take out of the season,
isn't it if we end up top four, maybe win
a playoff game, and that's about it. You've got to
be honest and say, that's a pretty decent season, all
things being considered with the other thirty, but apart from that,
it's not what it could have been should have been.

Speaker 12 (01:03:53):
No, that's the thirteenth last season, Mike.

Speaker 20 (01:03:55):
So look at the start of the season, say to
Warriors fans, you're going to make the eight, bite your
handoff for it.

Speaker 12 (01:04:00):
Take Yep, we'll take that. That's great.

Speaker 20 (01:04:02):
But having lived in the top four since what round six,
I think, mid eight, just when they entered the top
the top four, haven't haven't been out of the top
four since it is sort of petering out a little bit.

Speaker 12 (01:04:12):
And yeah, look, I think now you're.

Speaker 20 (01:04:14):
Aim for fifth or sixth, which means you get that
home playoff against the one of the one of the
teams in seventh.

Speaker 12 (01:04:21):
Or eighth, but you're right outside of the top four.

Speaker 20 (01:04:23):
I think Raided Storm, Bulldogs Panthers will be the top
four one of them, and deservedly so too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
And we've been saying it for a few weeks. Micer
is that you look at the top three or four
teams and the way they're playing differently, and add the
Broncos and the Roosters into that especially, it's a different lea,
a different thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
The I've got a bit of pushback on this, sad,
but I just Richie Muwanga is so good that that
you want to trapes around to Japan and say please
come home, and he does and you want to cut
him a deal, then why not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Yeah, they'd have an issue with that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
I mean, they should be able to come and go play,
should be able to do whatever they want. And if
they're available for the All Blacks, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yeah, and they resign a deal with injured art and
then they should be available eligible. I'd be very surprised
if he doesn't see game time in July or in
that Springbok two next year. Kevin. The injury rate we
have in rugby these days, super rugby. I'd be very
surprised if we don't see him midyear.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Don't you reckon though, Jason, You've got to allow these guys,
I mean, this whole sabbatical. I mean, but they've sort
of angsted their way through what is just really just
a professional era where people go and imply their trade
for the best deal.

Speaker 12 (01:05:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:05:29):
Yeah, Richie molong The difference is he's not on sabbatical.
He not like Jordie and Ardie who are able to
come back and go straight back. And that's the reason
he isn't theoretically available to play for the All Blacks
until next October. But you're right, Mike, I mean, this
is like it or not, this is the professional era.
Richie Molonger can play three years in Japan, come back
for an NPC and Super Rugby campaign, go to a

(01:05:52):
World Cup, win the World Cup, and then go back
to Japan for another three or four years after that.

Speaker 12 (01:05:58):
He's played a blinder, absolute blinding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
And if you're good enough, then good luck to you.
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Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Is Luke Littler stailing staying with you? Sev?

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
Who was that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Sorry, Luke Littler fellow PASTI eater?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Is he's staying with me? What do I remind am
I at all?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Just you know, certain guys like a beer and a
pasty sort of hang out at the ginner.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Now he's not staying with me. I wouldn't be getting
much sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Probably he was, well, here's here's my problem. What would
you do if you were in my shoes? So he
so Chris Hopkins wouldn't get up for Ryan Bridge before
six o'clock to do an interviews. Now that's bad enough.
Luke Littler won't get up and do interviews before ten
in the morning, said about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
For God's sake, he's a finely tuned athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
No he's not. He's overweight and he tosses darts. It's
like I do want to I mean, what am I
supposed to do? And then come on? I mean ten o'clock.
That's pathetic.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
When when you're nineteen with the body of a sixty
year old, you need your sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Do you reckon? And I've got a dart But have
you got a dartboard? Jason, Yes, I have.

Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
It's not up. We have one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Oh that's it doesn't count mine's up as yours up, Andrew, yep. Right,
So when you throw, and do you measure back from
the board to the professional length? Yeah? Yeah, I do too,
So I can if you ask me to get a ten,
any ten, not a double or a triple, but just
a ten within three darts, I reckon. I could get

(01:07:54):
a ten nine times out of ten, right, yes, so,
because I don't know that darts, Yeah, I couldn't do
a double or a triple would be more luck. But
I could give you a ten and I could get
close to a double. If you said do a double,
I get close to a double. But my point being
this darts doesn't strike me as being particularly complicated, and

(01:08:15):
I reckon. And it's not physical, And so I reckon.
If I practice really hard, I could get moderately. Okay,
at it so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Proves it's repetition, isn't it. You'd have to just train
and train it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
It must be you must be a robot. But also
the ability then it's all psychological to not freak out
under pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
And also you need to find a triple that takes
the edge off.

Speaker 17 (01:08:36):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
That's it? If you had just a couple of swigs,
you'd be just a bit more relaxed. Double ten so
much easier.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
To My problem is that I throw my best starts
when there's no one around.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Okay, and do you tell that story? Do you go
I was really good and you go, jeez, that was
a good session.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
In triple triple twenties all over the place, and then
when there's a crowd it just fall apart.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Well, I rest my case. That's the psychological. You've got
no mess, have you? If you ever put your board
up at Jason, would you be able.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
To hit it?

Speaker 12 (01:09:05):
I think so? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 20 (01:09:06):
It's the checkouts of the thing, aren't they And you
talk about the pressure. They've got to finish up a
double obviously, and they can you know, they can top
you know, double tops or double six all day long
when when there's no pressure on.

Speaker 12 (01:09:17):
But you know, when when they're up there and it's
to win a leg or to win a match, sure.

Speaker 20 (01:09:22):
Now I've seen those top guys miss you know, three
darts at double tops, So yeah, I think it's all
about the pressure. Probably like a lot of other sports,
it must be. Yeah, I think if you practiced, you
might get quite good at it. A lot of guys
are having a go at it now, aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yeah, because it's accessible, that's what That's my point. The
point is there's no real restriction to you being able
to play it at a reasonable level.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Is that you just check check it up and you
get way out to the reasonable leave it have to
play a lot right to get to a reasonable like
a national title, Laura.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Are you held because the guy's not there giving you
the score? Do you have to add it up in
your head and therefore it takes so much longer?

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Yeah, and minusing stuff as well. I can add but
minus single them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Going from five oh one downs hard work.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
But you loot me. You know you've in your sporting career,
you've mastered what were you like an NBA point guard
at one stage or should have been?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, I was good from the outside arc.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
You're in the ATP top three thousand in the world
for tennis, was it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:10:18):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
I played for the region, I'd play. Yeah, I've done
a lot of really good sport actually.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
In Gold and then and then you you you reach
your peak and then it's like, oh, I don't need
to do this anymore. I'm too good. I reckon if
you stuck to darts, I mean, look at Paul is
it sorry? Snooker?

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, snooker, Oh yeah, there's nothing holding me back on snooker.
I've got some very good shots going these days. And sticker.
But that's the other thing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Are you do you? Are you concerned or does your
family concern that you it's all indoor like snooker, darts?
Any FL preseason games on a Friday afternoon, you actually
never get out of the house.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Tell me both of you. NFL season, the pre seasons underway.
I can see none of it. It's none of it's
available in New Zealand preseason. I'm I'm seriously worried. I
think TV ands it's got some NFL occasionally.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Do you have that this year?

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
SAP and more importantly not to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I think, I think, I think so it's all it
always does well. But isn't it on a NFL game
day pass or something? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
You got to buy a part. You gotta buy an
app now. So not only do I have all my
streaming service and now going to buy an app for
the NFL design I was looking up this morning. You know,
it's four hundred dollars. Four hundred dollars on design for
the NFL season.

Speaker 12 (01:11:26):
You get every game, don't you get?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Well, of course, of course you don't get every game,
But I mean four hundred dollars to watch a singular
sport for a singular season, while I'm already paying for
the rest of the streaming.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Looking at a stat the other day, Mike and I
think the TV revenue and streaming revenue that the NFL
gets makes up about seventy percent of your revenue. You
look at other americ you look at other American sports,
and it's in the twenties and thirties. The amount of
money because everyone wants a cut, right, everyone wants to
screen a game or to stream a game. The amount
of money is just compete. You could just pretty much

(01:11:59):
a almost add up the NBA ice hockey and baseball
a baseball and it hardly gets close to NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Unreal. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to I think
I'm gonna have to poney up because I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
I might make an investment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Can't help cart pony in your coverage anyway. Nice to
see you. Nice to see you guys. Catch up next week.
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you read about that over the weekend and you wondered
what was going on behind the scenes that we didn't
know about? It was all the suppressed stuff that got
made public. Simon husband, she'd fed him a little something beforehand.
We didn't know about any of this. And the trial
three incidents twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, Simon was
hospitalized with mysterious never explained illnesses after allegedly eating meals

(01:13:50):
prepared by Erin, including she did them with the bolgnasy,
did him with the chicken curry corma and also the
vegetable curry rap.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
So she's an adventurous shift.

Speaker 14 (01:14:02):
You got to head it to her.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Does it reminded me as I was thinking about that.
Did Steve ever apologize to me for me being wrong
and me being right because he said she was getting
off but he went on holiday and then he came
back in island on holiday. I don't think we've ever
had the official because he had. The conspiracy gets even deeper.
Where was he? What was going on there? So Steve

(01:14:23):
Price is but moments away with what I'm assuming is
a Philly grand apology for being completely and utterly wrong.
That is after the news, which is next how News.

Speaker 18 (01:14:32):
Talk to him?

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Be Mike, great analysis of the party polling. Just now.
If what you say is true, I agree with you.
Then a consideration with thinking about it. We want to
have center left or center right. Does the leader of
the main party have the management skills to keep that
coalition going on a full term on and that Luxon
does well. I just don't think that Hipkins has the
ability to manage the Greens and TMP. I'd go as

(01:15:06):
far as to say that I don't think they would
ever want to be compliant coalition partners. I think that's
probably true. It's one of the many issues that we'll
deal with in more depth next year, and it's the
reason that this current government will be re elected. I'm
absolutely convinced because one history shows generally the government gets
a second term. But once you go down the track
of the damage done to the economy, you then put

(01:15:28):
that directly back on the plate of the Labor Party.
And that's before you get to the third part, which
of course is explained to us how the Greens and
the Maori Party are going to work together. Mike, you're
a betting man. I bet your bottle of your best
wine that national get high thirties before the election on
the back of improvements in education, the economy, health, law
and order and overall confidence in New Zealand. The left
will blow up. Gary. I can't take your bet because

(01:15:51):
I think you're right high thirties. If you call high
thirties thirty seven, I reckon they're good for thirty seven.
I've said before that the days of forty for the
majors are gone. So if you're doing well, you're traveling well,
thirty seven. You add the seven or eight or nine
whatever for act in New Zealand first year the government
at the end of the day. So I think you're right,
So I can't take the bit. Sorry. Twenty two to.

Speaker 16 (01:16:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Very good morning for you. Hello that now the Palestine.
Of course, Elbow was in Queenstown for about twenty four
hours over the weekends. I'm sure you're well aware. And
they did yet again sort of semi reiterate that they
kind of would like a ceasefire and might one day
possibly recognize Palator whatever the case may be. But where
are you at with recognizing Palestine as a state? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:16:39):
Look, I note the Queenstown meeting, and I note the
Prime Minister's comments, both of them from down there, but
back home on home, so Anthony I have an easy
his treasure. Jim Chalmers and his Foreign Minister Wong have
been a lot more forceful on that. The quote that
I keep coming back to his charmers saying it's a
matter of when not if that we recognize Palestine. Well,

(01:17:00):
I'm not sure that flying back from Queensland, Albo would
have been too happy when Prime Minister net Now, who
stood up called Australia shameful preparing for preparing to recognize
the stallion Palestinian statehood. He said that those who say
that Israel has a right to defend itself were also saying,
but don't exercise that right. And this is a direct quote,

(01:17:24):
I quote from Nett now a you, I think we
are actually applying force judiciously and they know it. They
know as in Australia they would do it. If right
next to Melbourne or right next to Sydney you had
this horrific attack, I think you would do at least
what we're doing. And then the little jab at the end,
although maybe not as efficiently and precisely as we're doing it.

(01:17:48):
So you can't read anything but that he's angry about
what Australia said.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
It would do the difficulty for people like I mean,
Wong is one that different from Albanezy or does he
just cover it?

Speaker 13 (01:18:01):
The latter very astute of observation from you. They're both
from the hard left. She's the Treasurer, she's probably going
to do one term. A sorry's Foreign Minister. She's probably
only going to do one term and then retire. He
wants to be Prime Minister again. After this latest labor government,
so he wants to go around again, so he tends

(01:18:23):
to cover it up much better.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
So then we come to the EV's and I read
this report. I can't remember the body, but it was
someone like the Productivity Commission was recommending the other day
that you drop your subsidies for your evs. Where are
you at with that? And then paying their way on
the road, Well.

Speaker 13 (01:18:40):
We're nowhere.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:18:41):
The former Treasurer of Victoria, Tim Pallis, tried to introduce
a road user levy on electric vehicles basically got hold down,
including by people in Canberra, I should say, And so
it's a free for all the moment. People who use
petrol play the petrol xis that's supposed to be go
into a pot of money to fix row which doesn't happen.
The roads in Victoria in particular an absolute disgrace. People

(01:19:05):
are ruining vehicles in massive potholes. So Jim Charmers is
having this round table a couple of weeks time. They're
going to sit around and talk about ways to raise taxes,
it seems. And the Australian reports this morning that this
big Productivity Commission, as you mentioned, plus the Department of
Treasure in Victoria, and you're South Wales and a bloke
who runs transerv and are going to sit down and

(01:19:25):
try and nut out a way to charge evs now, Transurban.
I don't know how many toll roads you have in
Neue Zealand. I know you have that one out of
hook On, but we've got them everywhere, particularly in Melbourne Sydney.
You can't drive around without your toll thing pinging. So
this bloke from Transurban will be in on this meeting.
The only thing you can think, oh, is they're going
to come up with the way to charge evs. The

(01:19:46):
Australian understands that there would be a really strong debate
about this. But and you'd have to carve out parts
of regional Australia which are massive. You can't have you know,
evs that might be operating out in the bush. They
have to drive long distances, so if this thing's based
on a distance then they would be unfairly punished. So
it will come, I believe, And I note that you did,

(01:20:08):
in fact, in New Zealand have some plans unveiled the
other day about.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Yeah, we're going down the see we've got a mess
of a system. We have what the rucks road user chargers,
So if you run diesel or you run a truck,
you've got to buy your miles at the moment. But
we also have tax on petrol. Do you have tax
on petrol? And also the ability to pay for miles
or whatever.

Speaker 13 (01:20:29):
Yeah, there's an excise on petrol that everybody pays. Truckies
can claim back what a diesel tax, they can claim
that back as part of their operations. But the rest
of us pay petrol excise constantly and the roads don't
seem to get any better.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
So it is a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Okay. So then there's private members bill who is it
government or opposition on the ability to defend yourself independacle.

Speaker 13 (01:20:52):
David Lindbrick in Melbourne comes from a Libertarian party and
he is putting through this bill that would look at
Britain's it's called their Castle doctrine where you're allowed to
defend yourself. An individual can use potentially deadly force to
defend themselves when anyone intrudes into your home. Now those

(01:21:14):
laws you know you can actually if you have acted
in what police think is a reasonable self defense, then
you're okay. And that includes killing someone.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:21:26):
So currently in this country you basically can't touch anyone
that comes through your front door and if you do
you could be up for serious charges. And so this
law will go before the Victorian Parliament. It won't get up.
But the reason I raise it is that shows you
how frustrated.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
And frightened people are.

Speaker 13 (01:21:43):
So many people in suburban Melbourne are youngsters coming through
the front door with machetes in their hands.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Hey, just a trip down memory lane if you wouldn't
mind for a couple of moments. You went away before
you went away on holiday, and then I went away
on holiday after you came back. We did have a
discussion about a woman called Aaron Patterson, who you may
remember wasn't caught. And I think the final words before
you went on your holiday to Japan was something like
your wife's right and you're wrong and I'm right, and

(01:22:09):
et cetera, et cetera. And I'm just thinking that the
things have happened Steve in that ensuing period of time
that maybe you want to revisit.

Speaker 13 (01:22:20):
Well, I still support your watch, you want this even
though both of us were slightly off. I'll beat about
the result. She's in jail she hadn't been sentenced yet,
she's going to get a long term yes, and a
whole bunch of stuffs that coming out that was not
allowed to be reported on.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
During Exactly Ryle exactly does indicating perhaps I saw in
her what some didn't see with her, with her vast
array of cooking, her bolognaise and her corner and a.

Speaker 13 (01:22:48):
Wrap, and I'd rather not go round to her place
for dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
See Wednesday appreciate very much. See Price Out of Australia
eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
At b Poor Transit van celebrated sixtieth birthday over the
weekend nineteen sixty five August of sixty five, In fact,
precisely August nine of sixty five. It came out of
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the UK and Germany at the time, aimed mainly at
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(01:23:47):
it's sort of got a UK connection in Dunton in Essex.
But apart from that poor transit van by the way,
there was no real coverage. I suppose it doesn't really matter.
But the boundaries got put out on Friday. The realignment
of the bound population what it did prove apart from
anything else as far as I mean, there's a number
of electorates that have moved a little bit here and
a little bit there, and you lost a suburb there,

(01:24:08):
or a couple of streets or whatever. None of that
really matters. But the changes are largely in Auckland. The
Bay are plenty christ Dutch in the lower of North Island.
The reason there, nineteen electorates, by the way, are unchanged.
The boundaries of forty nine general and three Maori have
been adjusted to some degree. It affects about twenty percent
of us in the North Island three percent of the
South Island. It's ironic, isn't it? Three percent next to

(01:24:30):
Noe and seven percent of the population that's been growing
in the South Island. Seven percent growth of the population.
It's extraordinary in a country that brings a next to
no immigrants anymore net gains, the South Island has been
growing seven percent. Now by law they can only have
sixteen seats. That seems stupid, doesn't it. Of all, the
people move from one island to another, and the electorates

(01:24:50):
traditionally based on the size of the population of the people.
Then if the people have moved, then why would you
have a law that says you can't have more seats?
That make literally no sense to me? O Taki Marna
and Aharia Wellington. That area reconfigured into two electorates. Company
in Kenni Peru. I know that Nikola Grigg who she
now lives outside of her electorate as in Selwyn, she

(01:25:12):
doesn't live in Selwyn anymore. I don't know that that's
the biggest deal in the whole world. But apart from that,
they had they put their rulers and pencils away for
another three years and there you go, ten away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
She's the make Hosking breakfast with rainthrow Bern used Tom's
dead be Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Matt Pain currently second on the Supercars Championship. He's booked
a spot for the finals at Adelaide. James a very
good point. I just looked it up and you are correct,
and not that I didn't believe you. I thought, well,
how's that possible given Brown? But if you were watching
the race yesterday, Brown got spun. It's one of the
weird things about motor racing. So Brown was right up
the top of the field along with Fiene and guy
came behind him and spun him, and the guy got

(01:25:49):
fifteen seconds for it, but Brown never had covered and
he got next to no points in the race because
he came towards the back of the field. So Pain
did well.

Speaker 17 (01:25:57):
So he is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
You're right, He's second in the championship and Ryan Wood's.

Speaker 17 (01:26:00):
The other one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
I'm thoroughly enjoying at the moment. He's a real talent.
I know Murphy's working with him, but he seems to
be a real talent. And Pain's good because he's only
been there about three years. I think this is his
third season and he's he's right up there with the Beaston,
which is fantastic, So that's encouraging Laney Wilson. If you're
a country music fan, she's coming to the country for
the first time, so you'll be pleased about that's This

(01:26:22):
is all part of the World Wind World Tour. She's
on tour through America as we speak, and comes to
us in the early part of next year in Auckland
and christ Church. Tickets will go on sale this Friday,
but you don't need to wait for that because you
can head to our Breakfast Facebook page or our Instagram
page and you can win one of the first double
tickets going because she's already given them to me because

(01:26:44):
I talked to her. I said, Laney, you got any
tickets for your show? And she said, Mike for you,
no problem. And I said, can you come on the
program on this coming Tuesday, and she said, Mike for you,
no problem. So she's given us some tickets. So it's
on the Facebook page and the Instagram page and she
will be turning up tomorrow on the program as far
as the tickets are concerned. By the way, we'll make
the draw on Friday. Five away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Day If you're following the league trainer gate two point zero.
So what happened was the Panthers trainer runs in front
of the Titans kicker last week as he was about
to take the conversion, and he would go on to miss.
It was the weirdest thing. And as you saw it happened,
you thought, how is this even remotely possible? Slash legal?
And of course it isn't. So those two misspoints meant

(01:27:36):
that clearing the younger of could kick the long field
goal and tie up the game. Eventually go on to
win an overtime, which means they've won now nine in
a row. Wouldn't it be good to be part of
a team that runs nine in a row?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Anyway, is that the greatest league story? If they go
from last to win at all? Is that as good
as we've ever seen? So they were fine the Panthers
fifty k not that they care. Training was suspended for
five games now. Another trainer hasn't been involved this time
is the Cowboys eels last night.

Speaker 12 (01:28:07):
He's going to pass u.

Speaker 9 (01:28:10):
Gate.

Speaker 20 (01:28:11):
That's five rus they get five that day it hits
the trader.

Speaker 12 (01:28:18):
Dad, leave the gate out of it. But seriously, is there.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
Any need for the traders to be out there so
early to s two teles like two.

Speaker 12 (01:28:29):
Passes into getting the ball boy?

Speaker 19 (01:28:31):
What are we doing pretty blandis you've got work to do.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
Ground managea laying down the lord of the trader. He
may have the stops out in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
That would be a bit extreme, very good. The NROL
are investigating, but you've got to do something about it.
Don't get the Joe is the guy who just goes.
I was gonna say, well, you're getting paid for that?

Speaker 15 (01:28:58):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
You're so funny? That's us for the day. As I mentioned,
Laney Wilson's on after eight o'clock tomorrow morning, so the
pressure is on Sam to produce something pretty good between
six and eight, isn't it. I mean, if you've got
Laney coming on post eight o'clock, the first couple of
hours better be good. So he's off to do that
will afford to your company From six tomorrow, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
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