Full Show Podcast: 11 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most Powerful
Defender ever made and News togs Head be All.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
And welcomes a day parting time to the farmers. As
Field Days rolls around, the franchise industry turns out that
it's booming in this country. We got the power industry
to look at as well. You ride share service launchers today,
Mark and Ginny Politics Wednesday after right, Richard Unld see
price they roll up to the carnival as well. Pasky
seven past six right angst. It seems to me has

(00:30):
a life. Things got awfully angster. You'll remember over the
pay equity business, but appears that appears to have gone
away for now. I do wonder where the last week's poll,
in which the majority of New Zealanders were shown either
to support the government or not care about the issue,
caused the activists to realize this was not the hot
button issue they thought it might be. The regular tree
standards bill is another one. It could be that Seymour's

(00:50):
name is attached to it and that has the Noisy
Brigade in Wellington on the pr run. But there is
certainly angst about it, even though I beat you anything
you want. Between ninety eight ninety nine percent of U
wouldn't clue what it's actually about. And then we had
the work safe changes. Now, a film about Pike River
was premiered in Sydney over the weekend, and at it
some of the producers lambastad the changes as being dangerous

(01:11):
and basically allowing corporate manslaughter. Obviously that sort of talk
is rabid, but the bit that makes no sense in
their argument, and they're not aligned because the opposition and
the unions agree with them. Their argument is they complain
about the deaths and the workplace each year, the Pike
River tragedies. None of them they don't seem to realize
happened under the new workplace regime, mainly because the regime
isn't even a thing yet. All the tragedies that they're

(01:33):
so desperately worried about are under the system. The opponents
are so enamored with a system that on one hand
needs saving and yet on the other is clearly so bad.
You're appalled at all the workplace deaths. Small side point,
by the way, I followed closely the Pike River Commission.
Sadly it was a top to bottom failure, not just
workplace safety and its rules and people, but the board,
the executive of the workers, each of them in their
own way played fairly loosely with the rules of the day,

(01:55):
which I think is part of the reason for the changes.
Now what we have can't be both, you see, it
can't be brilli while at the same time shocking given
the results and all the people who criticized this change,
the status quo was what they endorsed, what they ran with,
what they didn't change. The deaths and rules seemed to
be well fine under them until it wasn't under them,
at which point they became shocking. How does that work?

(02:15):
It doesn't, of course, het the argument falls and the
change might just be being argued because it's changed, not because
it might actually be an improvement.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Why news of.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
We begin with a shooting in Austria. The chancellor.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
There's no words to express the pain.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
The morning which.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
Austria is feeling right now. Our country is spending still
in this moment.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
The mother of a student.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
If it's still too image par found it for sort.

Speaker 8 (02:48):
I want to go and see him.

Speaker 7 (02:49):
I've tried asking three people whether they'll lend me their
bicycle to go and see him. They didn't let me.
That breaks me and I called on everyone involved work
really hard on making the world a good place.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
In the meantime and island, they're on the streets throwing
molotov cocktails at the police and boding buildings. That was
all over a court case.

Speaker 8 (03:04):
This violence was clearly racially motivated and targeted at our minority.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
Ethnic community and the police.

Speaker 8 (03:11):
It was racist thuggery, pure and simply, and any attempt
to justify or explain it as something else is misplaced.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
In Ghaza. More shooting at food stations.

Speaker 9 (03:23):
We want to live, We want to eat, We have
children and wives, We want to live in our homes.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
Three years of war, bodies ripped apart.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
All this for some flower and more concerned from medicas.

Speaker 10 (03:33):
They killed those who respond to emergency calls, who stand
with our Palestinian people. We know very well that with
every mission we may have to say goodbye to those
closest to our hearts.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Related matters, the UK Foreign Secretary sanction of the Israeli
Security and Finance ministers for inciting extremists.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Violence alongside our partners Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Norway.
Today we are announcing sanctions has to stop and we
stand for a two state solution.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Finally, a low called Martin ralf is the stupidest story
of the year. Martin Ralph of Buckinghamshire was attending a
wedding and got a new pair of shoes. Now that
Toski has diabetes, the NHS help them get the shoes
to fit properly. Trouble as they cocked that up. Martin
told them are a bit tight, a bit tight, but
the NHS said they just needed wearing in by the

(04:24):
wedding night. He swapped them out after a few hours,
but the damage was done in the three hours he
wore the tight shoes. He ended up needing four surgeries
and they head his toes amputated. The buckingham Shure NHS
is apologized and they're reviewing their policy. Here's the world
of nineties, the service for your shoes. Have you got diabetes?
Let me know. Job numbers in the UK not flash.

(04:45):
Companies are holding back on hiring. They're not replacing workers.
These numbers are out over night. Job vacancy is a tumbling.
Number of available jobs fell by sixty three thousand between
March and May. Unemployment went from four point five to
four point six estimated number of available jobs filled to
seven hundred and thirty six thousand over the three months
to May, so things a bit tight in the UK.
Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
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Speaker 2 (05:13):
EPI christ has averted Chief Executive Group's later survey out
of the States. In April, sixty percent of chief executives
in America thought of recession was coming. Numbers out yesterday
now because of the trade you know, talks, chats, et cetera.
It's only thirty so it's gone from sixty to thirty.
Fifteen past six, Bed and Plund's management, Greg Smith, Welcome

(05:34):
to Wednesday. Thank you Moyns and Mite so red meat
yesterday today, Apple scales are back and we got an upgrade.

Speaker 11 (05:40):
Love this, yeah, absolutely, and with field Day's kicking off,
it's all good news for the executor.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
So yeah, Scales have up.

Speaker 11 (05:47):
The earnings guides for four year twenty five UNDERLGNE net
profit they see between forty and forty five million. That's
up on the previous guide range of thirty seven to
forty two million, so scales those I don't know. It's
behind missed Apple. So New Zealand's largest fully undegraded grown
marketer of apples. They actually have got more than eleven
hundred hectes of orchids in the Hawks by exports and

(06:07):
excess of five million cartons of apples a year, and
you're seeing it all strong half despite geopolitical uncertainties.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Hawks Page, as.

Speaker 11 (06:15):
Many might not know, as the most productive area for
apple growing in the world. And look the weather has
been kind of course that's that's that's over jugging what
they've been through. Very strong harvest, very good growing conditions.
So if we expect bought volumes are on the app
they actually had a multi year journey transitioning to premium
apple varieties and this is working pretty well. So strong
demand from as offshore markets, the royal galas are at

(06:38):
MIC in the position towards premium varieties such as Dazzle,
and they're getting sparkling results there. So also boosting the
coffers that've soddenly spect their call store for twenty four
million that's going to set on August so yeah, good
news here as well. She is up one and a
half percent you today, up fifteen percent you to date,
and thirty three percent higher of the past year.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I love the story. I would rethink the name Dezel don't. Now.
Then we come to the trichometer, which is not good.

Speaker 11 (07:03):
Yeah, maybe let's hold back on popping those those champagne
courts of the border economy just yet. So the AMZ
truck on Index, this looks at both light and heavy traffic,
which fell in May on both counts. So the overall
trend in theory is still up if we want to
take a positive view. But you look at the monthly
move the light traffic index that was down half percent.
That was after a zero point six percent rise in April.

(07:25):
Still upero point three percent versus a year ago. So
light traffic you think motorbikes, cars, vans. It provides a
sort of a six month lead on what's happening in
the economy. So it's reflecting people getting out and about
spending money moving the couriers, trades, people in the lights.
So you're still trending up over recent months, but down
in May. Per care bit of terms, it's fledten down
after a sharp drop. And then if we look at

(07:47):
them more volatile heavy traffic and traffic index that was
down three percent in May. So this is as you
probably would expect, mostly trucks, also buses provides a bit
of a stair on production GDP in real time. I
was looking at freight and movements of production so on
both wholesale and retail as well as exports, and that
fell in May, and that unwound the two point seven

(08:09):
percent rise in April. It's still at one point sevcent
versus a year ago if we want to look at that,
and also trending higher and per capita terms. So yeah,
on a broad view, my activity on the roads is
still resilient. Stuff's moving around. That's a good sign. But
I think we've to keep an eye on things given
that dip in May.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Now, what about our mates across the Tasman how are
they feeling?

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Well?

Speaker 11 (08:28):
The Lucky countries little get a little bit more mixed.
So we've got a couple of surveys out of the
East State. So the Westpac consumer sentiment next, that's nudged
up zero point five percent ninety two point six in June,
but still below one hundreds, so pessimists out number optimists.
The Aussies are upbeat around lower inflation, interest rates. It's
actually a positive view on interest rates spicy consumers for

(08:50):
the first time since twenty twenty one, and actually the
most upbeaten five years on the topic. Eighty percent of
mortgage holders see rates being lower in a year's time.
But we've got the trade situation, we're waiting on this
news of the US China deal. We've got slow economic growth,
so that's sort of providing a bit of a mixed picture.
But then on the other side, the Aussie's are quite
upbetter about buying a major household item and that's actually

(09:12):
turned positive on a net basis for the first time
since March twenty twenty two. Then on the other side,
they're less confident about economy and jobs, but are positive
about house price expectations, particularly in Queensland. So that's that's
quite interesting. But yeah, overall a bit of cautious pessimism.
So I think that's enough possibly for the RBA to
put through further rate cuts in the coming months. And

(09:34):
that was also backed up on the business side, Mike,
So you've got thenad monthly Business Survey so conditioned, so
that here and now they'd eased again and May they've
fallen steadily since late twenty twenty four. There's a bit
of a sharpened premitive mining and transport utilities, but that's
pretty volatile. But most industries were lower, soy ongoing profitability
pressures rise and costs, seft demand and also further softening

(09:59):
the labor before as well, sort of factors. So retail
manufacturing particularly. We again if we want to look at
the brighter side, if you're looking at the outlock, business
confidence actually did tech higher and May so that was
positive conference raise and all industries except manufacturing, mining, and wholesale.
So I suppose you can sort of summarize this mic
and saying that, like consumers, ossie businesses are perhaps pricing

(10:19):
and more RBA rate cuts.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
So yeah, let's see, oh go, what are the numbers.

Speaker 11 (10:24):
So at the moment, obviously we're waiting the news on
out of out of London, but yeah, Dow's flat forty
two seven sixty three s and P five hundred, that's
pushed higher point three percent, sixty two five nas tack
up point one percent nineteen six zero seven fourteen, that's
had a good seashe up point two percent, that's near
record highs eight eight eight three, and we've had some

(10:44):
positive news from the house builder there as well as
lower wage growth figures, so hopeing for the rate cuts
in the UK. And nick A up point three percent
acex two hundred that's a record high as well. Actually
again on the prospect of rate cuts up point eight percent,
eighty five eighty seven, ins the X fifty up point
two percent, twelve five six four, Comalli's gold up three
actually down three dollars so three three hundred and twenty three,

(11:06):
and ounce oil down twelve cents sixty five spots seventeen.
Kiwi bit mixed against the major currencies were down point
two percent against the US dollars sixty point four, Australian
dollars down point one percent, ninety two point seven, British
pound up point three percent forty four point eight, and
the Japanese Yet we're a point one percent high A
seven point five.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Ye have a great day, mate, Grid. Greg Smith had
a Devin Funds Management Pascal personally, you finally got the
Comcast deal across the line if you followed that. They
started a couple of years ago they want to buy Hulu,
want the whole control of Kur Anyway, they're paying another
half a billion dollars to sort that out. Boeing back
and this is the good news. They booked three hundred
and three airplane orders in May, most since December of

(11:45):
twenty twenty three. The increased production of the seven three
seven Max to thirty eight a month. They've handed over
forty five planes last month, nearly doubled the total of
the same period a month ago. The year through May
two hundred and twenty planes, Airbus only two forty three.
So they're coming back fast. They've logged orders of five
hundred and twelve so far this year, compared with two
fifteen for Airbus, and they think they'll be back with

(12:06):
the Chinese before they know it. What bad News six
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Speaker 2 (12:24):
Europeans some are coming up for holidaymakers in July. Survey
out this morning from the European Travel Commission seven percent
fewer Americans are going to go to Europe. Certainly fewer
Europeans are going to go to America. The Chinese. They're
making up and this is what worries me about New Zealand.
So Chinese tourism to Europe in summer is going to
be up by ten percent, so the offset is in
other words, Europe gains. So the place that we practicably

(12:45):
hot and crowded, so i'd want to go, I don't know,
but be that as it made. The Chinese do travel
and they're not traveling here. That's my own gain concern. Meantime,
the World Bank overnight they've cut yet again global growth projections.
They were at two point seven for the year for
the war, that's now down to two point three. That's
the slightest rate of global growth since two thousand and eight.
The US they're down to zero point nine for the

(13:08):
year from one point four, so that's Trump and his
trade madness. The Ure Area has gone from zero point
seven to zero point three, so the world is slow.

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have you ever seen the prospect or possibility of a
more elaborate field day given what's happening to farmers at
the moment. We'll have a look at this after the.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
News setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The
Mike Harting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate
differently since nineteen seventy three, News togs Head been.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Hello Richard Arnold. Shortly twenty three to seven back here,
celebration of life on the land rolls on this week
we got field Days, mister Creek opening today, Caple the
key drivers, of course, won the budget move around appreciation
to the general bullishness of the farming sector. Richard Lindrews
is the CEO of the National Field Days and as
well as Richard Morning.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
No excuse for it not to go off? Is that fair?

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah? Exactly right.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
I mean all the they say down here, it's a
bit of a positive vibe going on. Everything's gone the
right direction. We have certainty now in terms of where
the prices are, and the forecasts are pretty good, so
we expect the real community to open up the wallets
at Field Days.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Fantastic. The reality of that twenty percent from the budget,
the depreciation is that? Is that tangible? And will you
see it?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, what's real?

Speaker 6 (15:59):
I think you're going to those large capital expensa and
it's more certain you have from the farming community, the
better it will be. So our exhibit is down here
and we have over twelve hundred are looking forward to
gates opening at eight o'clock today. We go right through
the sad day, sad as super sad day, so looking
forward to even the townies coming down.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Have you got a sense of the size of it
and who's coming and how many and all of them?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Absolutely So we have firstly, internationally we have twenty three
embassis represented here, over sixty six international exhibitions and over
twelve hundred overseas visitors, so give us some context of
the international following of Field Days. But also domestically we'll
have over one hundred thousand people through the gates over
four days. It makes it the large largest agribusiness event

(16:43):
of the summer's hemisphere, but also you'd say the largest
business event in New Zealand. And that's why today and tomorrow.
It is politician central.

Speaker 14 (16:52):
We are all here.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
I've just seen mister McLay. In fact, I've just seen
Brad Olsen, one of your guests, as the first person
to the VIP club.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
What he does, it's all he does. He goes around dancing, drinking,
entering VIP clubs. He loves a party.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
It was the first one in here. I was a
bit surprised about that, but so I don't think you are.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Going to look at bless them.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
So it's you know, we're really looking forward to eight
o'clock today. Lots going on the first two days, the
business days, and then as we head towards the weekend,
it's becomes more of a family focused and so we're
expecting the large crowds to continue this here.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Okay, what are you going to tell the government? Give
them the government?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
There?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
They are they perceived to be on your side. Are
they doing what's needing to be done? And is everyone happy? Broadly?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Well, I think as you both sides of the political spectrum,
agri business is that you know the revenues we get
from the agrisector industry of popping up this economy. And
I've heard you say about a two tiered economy. Well,
what we've got to do is we've got to recycle
that the agri money into the urban fields as well.
So I think at field Days, what we're trying to

(17:59):
do is as a society, which I on, grow this
event not just in size but in terms of impact.
And we're very ambitious what that future holds for New
Zealand Primary Septor and we believe the field Day's event
is vital role in paying and playing.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
That fantastic Richard. Good to have you on the program.
I love to talk Richard Lindrews, who's the chief executive
officer of the National Field Days. Brad Olton, by the way,
was at the Radio Awards the other night as well,
brought his own ticket.

Speaker 13 (18:22):
I mean when you said gloves to drink, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well no, no, no, if you never drink, he loves it.

Speaker 13 (18:27):
He loves a red boy, he loves but to.

Speaker 15 (18:30):
Arrive and what are we talking about and minutes before
it even starts rural that guy's desperate to party.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
That guy is a yeah, he's as keen as have been.
And by the way, just before I hit me one
of these ones, twenty minutes away from sevensk Golden Visa.
More good news. This is the Golden Visa where you
can put in five or ten million to the country
depending on what you want to do. At least twenty
five million and two months. There's a These are numbers
out this morning. There is a billion in the application
Pipeline hundred and sixty eight applications for the Active Invested

(18:59):
Plus Visa after changes to liberalize it, and of those,
eighty have been approved in principal. Four applicants have transferred
to their investment into New Zealand, amounting to a total
minimum minimum of twenty five million and a billion still
to come, so that seems to be going well as well.
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what happened to the one point nine billion into the

(20:26):
system of the well being budget? That's a very good question.
And it's a weighty old home that greeted me at
three o'clock this morning in the office and I waded
my way through that. So we'll talk more about that
after seven o'clock this morning, by the way, on the land,
and we may raise it with Mark and Jinny after
eight Growing pressure on Roger McLay. Roger McLay who's the
Trade Minister and is at Field days and we'll be
listening to this. Sorry, Todd McClay. My apologies, Roger, My apologies,

(20:49):
Todd McClay. He promised he would unleash somehow Keywi Saber
for farm purchases and he's yet to deliver on that.
So we'll see where that goes.

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Speaker 17 (21:08):
Where are we at peopul right now? How's that for headline?
Los Angeles not burning? The television images do not make
clear really that the immigration standoffs are occurring in a
very small, maybe four block section of LA There has.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Been some real violences. We've seen some stores looted, bricks thrown.

Speaker 17 (21:25):
That nine Network reporter from Australia, Lauren Demarci, pit by
a rubber bullet while she was doing a live cross bullet.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Fired by police.

Speaker 17 (21:32):
Also, there is a lot of anti ICE, immigration and
customers enforcement graffiti which now is being painted out. And
there were some Waymo cars set on fire by people
now arrested. It seems that the driverless cars were ordered
into the protest area just so it could be set
on fire. What we do see is images of armed
National Guards and now US Marines standing opposite protesters, which

(21:58):
California Governor News calls a blatant abuse for federal power
by President Trump, who has just doubled in numbers and
sent it seven hundred camouflage marines with rifles as well.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Says the governor, There were.

Speaker 18 (22:10):
Two thousand National Guard that were quote unquote deployed, of
which only three hundred and fifteen actually were mission assigned.
Seventeen hundred have no particular role or responsibility.

Speaker 17 (22:25):
They didn't have anywhere to stay, and they they lay
down on the concrete floors to sleep, went awake standing
in front of a federal building, again, one tiny spot
in a city of what ten million plus people. The
LA Police have made about one hundred arrests. There were
no risks untol of course, ICE agents moved in on

(22:45):
Saturday or time, says La mayor Karen Bass.

Speaker 19 (22:48):
People go to work and then they have no idea
that their workplace is going to be invaded and it
is going to be an enforcement action. And you remember
when the administration started, he taught talked about violent criminals,
drug dealers. How do you go from a drug dealer
to chasing people through the parking lot of a home
depot where there's day laborers working just trying to survive.

Speaker 17 (23:11):
Two hundred and twenty one million New Zealand for the
marine deployment for sixty days, is what they're saying. The
ICE agents, wearing masks as they do, moved into the
fashion area first and rounded up forty six people who
were sitting at their sewing machines, claiming they were part
of a criminal money laundering operation. Says Immigration Chief Tom Homan.

Speaker 12 (23:32):
They have to do a money monitoring, tax invasion and
customer shrug or a company undeclared as underdeclared over eighty
million dollars in goods.

Speaker 17 (23:42):
Well, no charges have been laid, none at all. Trump says,
LA would be a blaze if not for the actions
that he's taken.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
We didn't get involved.

Speaker 20 (23:53):
Right now, Los Angeles would be burning just like we
was burning a number of months ago, with all the houses.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
That were last Pornians don't buy that.

Speaker 17 (24:01):
There is there a war of words between all of
the politicians, as The New York Times Today is running
a peace headline. Trump declares dubious emergencies to a mass
power trump age Stephen Miller called in ice chiefs the
other day, told them they were horrible and should be
arresting three thousand people a day, while the House speakers
Governor Newsom should be quote trd and feathered. Trump says

(24:24):
he would support arresting the California Governor Newsom, who has
responded he's a tough guy.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
Why doesn't he do that?

Speaker 18 (24:29):
He knows where to find me. But you know what,
lay your hands off four year old girls that are
trying to get educated. Lay your hands off. These poor
people are just trying to live their lives. Man, trying
to live their lives. Pay their tax has been here
ten years. The fear, the horror, the hell is this guy.

Speaker 17 (24:48):
There's a lot of wild staff Meantime. On Monday, reported
an eighteen year old high school kid, right Marcello to Silver,
who was stopped on his way to a volleyball practice.
Then his whole school marched to the local city hall
in milf Massachusetts for the court hearing, along with most
of the rest of the small town, with many people
wearing T shirts and blazon with this boys school team
jersey number ten. Marcello now has been freed. While in Bakersfield,

(25:12):
a four year old girl has been brought to the
US because she was dying form a red disease where
she could not probably take the nutrients. She had seven
surgeries page four. Then doctors here gave her a specially
built backpack that would allow her to take in food
and survive. Then Trump ordered her to be deported, which
would have meant her death. There was a huge public outcry.
So now the federal government has backed down. She won't

(25:35):
be deported.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
She can live, all right, Mate, catch up in a
couple of days. Richard Arnold states, I'll come back to
that in a couple of moments. By the way, north
of the border in Canada, Cannie made an interesting move yesterday.
They're going to move to the NATO target of two
percent GDP for defense, and they're going to do it
by he claims now next year. It's currently at one
point four. They're very similar to us. They've sort of
never had their act together in defense spending, mainly because

(25:56):
the Liberals. But finally they've woken up to it. So
we pledged hit two percent by twenty thirty previous government.
Trudeau said twenty thirty two. Now he's up that, Carnie,
he's going to do it by March of next year,
apparently having spent I don't know, several hours yesterday on
and off watching CNN. I this La thing. If you've

(26:17):
been to La, it's a massive city and anyone can
fly a helicopter over a couple of intersections, which is
all I saw yesterday. And you had a couple of
hundred people max, and you had a whole bunch of
cops there, and they were the most polite operators I've
literally ever seen in my life. They would sort of
move the people back, move the people back, move the
people back, and basically disperse them. And really, over the

(26:41):
hours that I watched it, nothing happened. And I saw
CNN and they got up in the face of the
cops and then they got asked that there's a video
floating around this morning, I can't remember the guy's name,
but he's one of the reporters for CNN. He walks
up to a cop and the cop goes, look, we're
going to es court. He literally goes, we are going
to escort you out now, and so let's court you
out one at a time and you can all meet

(27:02):
up back down the street there. I need you to
put your hands behind your back and I'll let's court
you now, just one at a time. It's the most
mundane sedate removal from a protus.

Speaker 13 (27:11):
They do thirty seconds of calm, don't they.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
You go march move, move, move, move, hold, move, move, move,
move hold. And this went on for several hours, and
I thought, is this it? Is this really all we're
getting exercised about at the moment, remembering, of course, the
size of LA and for ninety nine point ninety nine
nine percent of people in LA, they wouldn't even know
what was going on. So I just wonder if we're
just making a bigger deal of this than we need

(27:34):
to ate away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octor News Togs
dead be Like.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I went between Fox and Scene and yesterday I thought
it was like watching a reporter standing in a puddle
trying to report a flood. I got the same vibe
about it. Sly Stone. The other thing I didn't realize
yesterday if you missed the death of sly Stone. He
was only in the band for a couple of years,
so it was quite an impact for a person who
wasn't around for very long.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Are the ouse? It's the feiz with business fiber take
your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Now this could be suspect Ramstad Employer Brand Research Day
today the most attractive place to work in the country.
Along with what we value from an employer. Now what
we value one work life balance, two attractive salary and benefits.
Three good training for a pleasant work atmosphere. That's new
this year. Five Job security. Who's the best place to

(28:26):
work or where's the best place to work? Number ten
the University of Auckland Good reputation equity and You're financially healthy.
Nine Department of Internal Affairs Equity, good pay, job security
B and Z good pay job security ASB, good pay,
good location. Six Defence Force job security, career progression. Five

(28:47):
Saint John Good reputation equity, gives back to society four
IBM Good pay Career progression three A and Z good
pay job security. See the banking theme there two equity
good pay career progression one Air New Zealand, Air New Zealand.

(29:07):
Don't look at me that way, Glenn, I'm just reading it.
Don't shoot the messenger, mate, Air New Zealand, good pay,
interesting job content and good reputation. Now my challenge to
Randstad is how many people in this country did you
talk to? Did you go to them directly? In other words,
did you target the businesses themselves and just talk to
some random people within the businesses? In other words, you

(29:28):
selected the businesses you thought were the best, or did
you randomly select people from any old business at all?
And this is the culmination of that particular work, because
here's a startup for ten. I don't believe a word
of it. Come on, unless you work for any of
those aforementioned companies, you go, Mike, you're wrong. In a

(29:49):
couple of moments, another mental health report, she's a weighty
old time. So we'll see where we're going with this.
We'll also be looking at the power industry in general
in this country after seven thirty Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
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Hosking Breakfast with A, Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News,
togs Head, be.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Welling, seven past Sevenother Weighty Tome awaited me has arrived
at three this morning. Pages and pages entitled Monitoring Mental
health and Addiction system performance in New Zealand. Excuse me.
Fatal drug overdoses are up eighty eight percent between twenty
sixteen and twenty twenty three. Sixteen thousan fewer people access
special the services. Suicide rate is not going down now.
Karen Osbourne is the Mental Health and Well Being Commissioned

(30:30):
CEO and is with us Karen Morning, Good morning. Mind
were two things sixteen thousand fewer people accessing special services
that lack of demand or lack of service.

Speaker 21 (30:39):
Look, that's not a lack of demand. What we're seeing
is that demand is increasing. And what we're seeing in
terms of access to specialist mentals and addiction services that
there are constraints primarily around workforce, but we know that
the people accessing those services also have higher levels of need.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Okay, when we say suicide rates not going down, is
that good?

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Plateauing?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (31:02):
Look, we'd certainly like to see the suicide rate reduced.
There's a range of multiple factors that contribute into that
suicide rate, primarily factors that sit within the sort of
community and the broader sort of well being aspects.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, but if it's not going down, it's plateauing. And
that's good, isn't it? Don't We want to be as
optimistic as we can.

Speaker 21 (31:22):
Oh, look for sure, but we'd like to see that
coming down. And what we've done with this report is
bringing you some of those measures of outcomes from the
mental health and addiction system, recognizing the system has a contribution,
but also the wider factors in society, such as a pandemic,
also impact on those mental health well was going on.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
That was the funnily enough next question. So overdoses between
twenty sixteen and twenty twenty three as tragic as what's
the matter? I mean, it's been and gone. What's the
point I mean, apart from collating the data, what's the
point of what does it tell us?

Speaker 21 (31:53):
Oh? Look, just tells us what the outcomes are for
New Zealanders in terms of mental health and wellbeing outcomes.
What we want to do is to look at those outcomes,
track those over time, but also say how does the
system need to improve to actually see positive shifts in
those measures.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
What happened to the one point nine billion dollars in
the well being budget the Grant Robertson so famously and
loudly gave this sector.

Speaker 21 (32:18):
Oh, look, we did a deep, quite detailed report on
the one point nine billion last year and the majority
of that money was spent for the purposes that it
was allocated to. There was about one point one that
went to health and that was over four years, and
the majority of that went into our Access and Choice program,
which we also reported on earlier this year. You and

(32:40):
I spoke about that back in April.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
But did it do anything substantive or is it just
that was one point nine billion that went to the
right area but achieved little if your numbers are accurate.

Speaker 21 (32:50):
Yep, Look, it went to the right areas and it
has had some impacts. We know the Access and Choice
program has had some positive impacts to increase that access
to that early intervention, primary and community services. It's not
at the levels it needs to be, so they need
to be that push to get it where it needs
to be. But what we're really seeing are concerned about
is that access to specialist mental health and addiction services.

(33:12):
So the real workforce constraints and what we're seeing as
high vacancy rates, particularly for special staff and psychiatrists, and
that has a big impact on the system. So that's
where we really want to see some fast action.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Karent, appreciate your time. There's always Karen Osbourne, who's the
Mental Health and Well Being Commissioned CEO. Ten minutes past seven, Mike,
I saw Adrian all last night at the Rod and
Gun bar and Commercial Bay. First time having a beer
in Ages. Paul, great spotting, well done. So that's an
Auckland by the way, not a bad place to have
a beer if you're going to have a beer, not
a bad place. He's an Auckland. He's clearly happy you're
listening this morning, Adrian, and give us a caller. Wouldn't

(33:45):
mind a word other matters. There's new anti stalking laws coming.
That was the sound by the way of the report.
Let me just do that again for you.

Speaker 13 (33:52):
No, no, no, don't do it on that console. You'll
break it.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yeah, that's a lit bit of a bounce. It actually
bounced the renew anti store talking laws coming and they've
been changed up considerably because of the Select Committee process.
Now the new law is going to be triggered after
two specified acts within twenty four months. Originally it was
three within twelve. Now the definitions have also been adjusted
as well. Ruth Money as the Chief Victim's Advisor to
Government and is well there's Ruth, morning to you.

Speaker 7 (34:18):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
In reading this yesterday, I was quite inspired by the
Select committee process because I've been a bit down on it.
You know, it's just like people sit around and going
and nothing happened. So clearly at times change does come
as a result of the Select Committee. Because this seems
fairly substantive.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
I have to say I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
All too often I have set in front of Select
committees with people who have got the most durable lived experience,
begging politicians please listen to me. Let's change this. You've
got your opportunity to change this to protect us. This
is my experience. And then a report comes out and
you go, whatsh were you even in the room?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, exactly, So two and twenty four I thought it
was interesting about because I don't know how much much
about the but two and twenty four was based on
anniversaries and birthdays. So in other words, if you're chasing
somebody or stalking somebody, it's an event day that often
triggers it. So three and twelve was in theory fine,
but two and twenty four makes more sense. Do you
agree with that?

Speaker 22 (35:15):
Well?

Speaker 7 (35:15):
I don't agree three and twelve was ever fine, and
I was very vehemently opposed. Shall we say to that
two in twenty four makes a lot more sense, and
I am super happy with where we've lended. I mean,
the devil is always going to be with how we
implement that, which, of course, with any act, that's what's
going to happen. Now, So will we police training, there'll

(35:36):
be specialist services to make sure that everybody is acting appropriately.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Well, that was the next thing I was worried about,
because prescription and law is not necessary reality on the street.
So when you ring the police and say here's the
bloke outside my letterbox, does it get acted on no
matter what the law says.

Speaker 7 (35:55):
Well, it should, and obviously that's police need to work
through their implementation. Certainly the intent of the law, but
what the intent of the law is not to do
is just to intervene and arrest the crying boyfriend for example,
who has just sent a not so harmful text where
he I'm completely generalizing, is moping and is a bit sad.

(36:17):
What this is about, you know, stalking is a pervasive
behavior and it's a pattern of behavior that is inciting fear.
So what this two and twenty four does is allow
the police to warn the person that the behavior is
not appropriate. Now, obviously we also need to work with
the victim on that because in some cases warning an offender,

(36:40):
for example with interpersonal violence, will just escalate and make
things more awkward and dangerous for the victim. So things
will be done with science and evidence to make sure
that those who are dangerous stalkers. And let's not forget
that this behavior escalates, right, we had seen this escalate
into Yes, this is a fear campaign of fear, but

(37:01):
then there is violence and unfortunately we have got cases
of death. So we need to make sure that the
police have got powers to stop this behavior and prevent victim.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Good, all right, well, let's hope it's on the right track.
We'll last mark and cover it off with the police
Minister after. I appreciate your time. As always, there Ruth Money,
who's the chief victim's advisor in government. More good news
around business franchises are going off, give you the numbers
in a moment fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
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Speaker 2 (37:34):
Head of Meridians with us after seven thirty You're going
to take a sort of a deep dive if you
like to have a look at where we're at as
regards power in this country, what the makeup is, Are
we heading the right direction? Will we ever get there?
All those sort of questions. Meantime, at seventeen past seven
yesterday it was numbers around business sales and they were
setting records this morning. It's the allure of boning a franchise.
So the industry has had a networth of forty seven
billion dollars, which is almost eleven percent of our GDP.

(37:56):
They are currently around thirty thousand franchise units nationally. Brad
Jones Bred Jacobs rather as the chair of the Franchise
Association and as we uspread, very good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (38:06):
Thanks having me mind not at all these.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Are these golden birthday? Are these golden days?

Speaker 6 (38:12):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (38:13):
Yeah, yeah, we've we've had some great growth in enfranchising
over the last few years. Our every few years we
do a large survey with Massi University, which came out
last year. And so as you said, you know, we're
now at eleven percent of New Zealand's GDP. And in fact,
if you actually put in motor vehicle sales and retail fuel,

(38:34):
that brings us up over seventy three billion dollars, which
is more like about seventeen percent of New Zealand's GDP.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
We talked to the ABC people yesterday on business sales.
Are business sales the same as franchises? In other words,
they're the same sort of people buying something.

Speaker 14 (38:50):
Yeah, looks I would say there's a lot of overlap. Yes,
certainly New New Zealanders, if you like I, certainly attracted
to franchise businesses and enfranchising is a model for those
people to get into business with a lot of support
and backing.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
And do they vary widely? And what sort of cover
all protection is there from one franchise to another. The
thing I'd worry about is size and growth my territory,
other people getting sold, et cetera.

Speaker 14 (39:17):
Yeah, Well, in terms of does it vary widely. Yes, absolutely.
You know, franchising covers just about every industry you could
possibly imagine. And you know, the average New Zealand it
probably comes in contact with three, four or five franchise
the day without even realizing whether it's getting a haircut,
grabbing a coffee, getting their online shopping delivered to their house,

(39:38):
stopping at the supermarket on the way home from work.
You know, franchising is really everywhere around us all day
every day.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Someone clipping the ticket. Say there's two cafes, one's a franchise,
ones just a cafe. Is someone clipping the ticket there
for the franchise cafe is more expensive because of it.

Speaker 14 (39:54):
No, not at all. My own business is a cafe
franchise system and my role as a franchise or is
to help reduce the operating costs of our franchisees by
bringing together a group of franchisees at are buying power,
better negotiating with landlords, suppliers, whatever it may be. So
you know, it's my responsibility to offset the franchise fee

(40:18):
that we charge our franchisees. Of course, we also give
them a lot of other assistance with operations and compliance
to law, etc. Which as an independent operator could be
quite expensive and very easy to make. Mistakes on that
sometimes could end up in worse than just a monetary
fine or extra costs.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Love a good news story, Brad, appreciate it. Bread Jacobs,
who's the chair of the franchise association. So between the
ABC sales yesterday and a franchise association now, I thinks
seem seem to be turning. Let's get to the old
business of CVS in a moment, shall we? Seven twenty.

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Speaker 5 (41:43):
Of the year.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Asking now seven twenty three, the great rates upset has
begun to unfold. Auckland this week got its long awaited
council valuations. Why people get excited about this, I've got
no idea. It's a rough estimate by a council. It
takes into account the broadest of criteria, but people seem
to live and die by these numbers. The upset, of course,
has come from the fact that the value of a
lot of properties has dropped while the rates bill is

(42:04):
going up, and so we get the cost plus accounting
scandal that is Council economic policy exposed. Now this is happening,
of course all over the country. It is a specific
but it's also a very broad based problem. Broad based
because this is all inflationary. Of course, costs going up
and a climate of no growth is inflationary specific because
depending on where you are depends on how bad the
scandal is. Auckland properties are our nine percent, rates are

(42:26):
up over seven. Wellington values are down twenty four percent,
rates are up over sixteen, Nelson down nine, up sixers.
This whole idea that rates are linked to value, of course,
is complete crap and always has been. In short, councils
are inept and will spend forever. We'll waste your money forever,
We'll plead poverty forever. We'll always find something that's critical

(42:47):
and needs doing right now. Christ Church, for example, got
shafted last week by Chris Bishop who rejected the governments
in Sensification Plan amendments as proposed by christ Church. The
council didn't like the original plan, so they've spent three
years millions of dollars to go back and ad to
achieve what nothing. That's counsels for you. As Auckland mayor
Wayne brown Seed yesterday, it is what it is, and
he's right because he knows a couple of home truths.

(43:09):
No one's turning up for local body elections, so very
few people will be held to account, and he also
knows a lot of people will moan, but ultimately do
nothing about it. If ever, there was a reason to
get exercised over the way we're being played, this is it.
Your asset has dropped, but the bill has gone up.
The bill and theory is based on the asset value.
Nowhere else in life is the scam played and gotten

(43:31):
away with. Apart from local body politics, we've got too
many councils, too many representatives, too much representation in general,
too many boards, too much in competence. Every year of
a bill for it rises. Democracy only works if you
take part. What better reason can there be this year
then to get your voting paper, Look at the value
of your property, look at your rate rise, put a

(43:52):
name to the con and vote them out. Asking working
at the bank, Mike, it's fun. This goes back to
the Ramstad. Where's the best place in the country to work?
Working at the bank, Mike has fun, lots of opportunity,
good smart people, good pay. Never should have worked thanks
to the ComCom. I would tend to agree with the
bank thing. The bank thing had a theme. Most of
the banks seem to be good places to work. Mike,
where's the career progression at an MB? What a load

(44:14):
of bollocks. I don't know. I've never worked at MB,
but I'll take your word for it. Mike, I work
in recruitment. Ranstads literally read out their list of enterprise clients. Well,
well we'll get stuck into that today and see what happens.
But Mike, with oil at fifty dollars a barrel, why
are our petrol prices doubling and double the rate of Australia, Tony,
It's a very good question. Unfortunately, everything you say is
completely nutterly wrong. Oil is not fifty dollars a barrel,

(44:36):
so you start with the premise of incorrectness. It's sixty
five dollars a barrel this morning. And when you say
that petrol has double that of Australia, the average price
of a lead in this country at the moment is
two forty nine and Australia is of our dollars seventy three,
which is not double. So be rest assured that it's
not as bad as you make out. Mike, Jack and
I had a blast at the F one Grand Prix

(44:56):
and Barcelona, epic vibes and times with amazing viewing from
our village. Paris is and awesome although graffiti and rubbish
is prevalent in the city. We had to Singapore next,
then home. Jack goes into the real world of working next.
But this trip has given him lots of insights to
life but also an introduction to the many interesting people.
As we know, life is what you make it. But
doing this escapade has given him more drive to succeed.

(45:17):
I have no idea who's that from.

Speaker 15 (45:18):
Remember last week they said they were taking their graduate
weld unclen.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I knew you were here for a reason. Well that's
what there's good trip. That sounds like trip and life
is what you make it.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
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Speaker 2 (45:43):
And the problem why to her company is, as far
as I can workout, is they're all the same pull
in the same cars. They just names Brian and he's
a mover or he's something else, depending on what you
want him to be, which doesn't sort of changing from
as far as I can work out, But we'll find
out more shortly. Meantime, Key back to our power grid.
No shortage of news in the past week or so
because most optimistically it is rained enough for things not

(46:06):
to be die. There's winter, so that's good. There's the
battery project we told you about it Huntley, the solar
project we told you about yesterday in Tamuka Tai is
back at full pace, so that's good. And we've got
a government review apparently coming in the next couple of
weeks on all of this now. Micro Roun is the
Meridian chief executive and he's with us.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 22 (46:24):
Morning, Mike. Thanks having me on.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Excuse me, not at all optimally, where do we need
to be? And as I sit here talking to you
this morning, how far short are we?

Speaker 22 (46:35):
We're actually in good shape this winter, Mike. I don't
think people need to worry about having enough power. I
think there's a lot of work that's gone on in
the sector since last August, where you know, we ran
into a few challenges with drought and gas supply, and
I think those changes and you know, the adjustments that
we've made as we approach this winter have made a

(46:57):
difference alongside. And it always helps when you've got a.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yes exactly more generally though, bigger picture, where are we
and how far short of optimal are we? So we
never have to have these conversations ever.

Speaker 22 (47:08):
Again, Well, I think longer term, so if you kind
of jump for a few years, you know, we're deep
into investing in the sector so that we can overcome
the challenge that lost gas represents for the sector. I
think long term, you know, we're in good shape. I
think the best I could say at the moment is

(47:30):
we're stabilizing the impact that that decline and gas supply
has on the electricity sector. I think it's probably wider
than just the impact on the electricity sector. So I
think the economy is trying to work out how it
navigates this period where you know, we don't have as
much gas available to us as we had hoped.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Was the gas a critically poor decision that gave you
a headache you didn't need.

Speaker 22 (47:55):
Ah, I think the loss of gas or the dec
hein of gas was a little unexpected. It certainly was
for us, and you know, it caused big headache for us.
I think it cost us two hundred million bucks last
last half years, so you know, it certainly caused a headache.
But like with every challenge, the only question is what

(48:17):
do you do about it? And you know, the people
need electricity. People deserve electricity that the economy relies on.
It's the lifeblood of our economy. And so our job
is to tackle the challenge and that's what we're focused on.
You know, we're kind of investing for the long term
and making as I say, making all these small adjustments,
you know, methodets offering gas back into the electricity sector

(48:41):
as you would have seen a deal earlier this year.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Ends this contributing a little bit.

Speaker 22 (48:47):
We're pretty focused at the moment because we're you know,
twenty five feels like it's in reasonable shape. So we're
starting to look at twenty twenty six and go what
do we need to do to ensure the energy system
as secure and the energy is affordable for folk in
twenty six is we're busy focused on the Huntley Strategic

(49:08):
Reserve negotiations so that we've got more energy from the
Hunting Power Station that we expect that we'd needs. But
you know, as they say, you lose gas, you tackle
the challenge, and that's what we're.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Focusing That's all cool, and I get that, but it
does seem it does seem patchwork to me. I mean,
we should be doing better as a country. You know,
a bit of method X here and a bit of
Lergy there and a bit of Huntly over there. I mean,
you know, why aren't we better than this?

Speaker 22 (49:32):
I think it's that unexpected decline in gas. You know,
your point is, we have an unbelievable bounty of renewable resource.
There's no question about where we will be as a
country in future. Right, so as all countries around the
globe decarbonized or electrify their economies, we have a natural

(49:53):
competitive advantage. It's just we were relying on gas as
a transition fuel, and obviously.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
It hasn't played out the way that we expected.

Speaker 22 (50:03):
And so in the meantime we've got a period where
we do have to patch together a number of solutions
while we invest to manage that transition effectively. But no
question about where will land.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Okay, So in patching this together as you are, is
there a problem potentially down the track? Years down the track.
Once you've got your solar and your wind and your
battery back up, suddenly gas goes boom again, and suddenly
we've got what you would potentially call an oversupply.

Speaker 22 (50:30):
Well, I think that's a you know, I don't think
that's a challenge for the country micas that would just
mean lower electricity prices or energy prices generally. I think
that'll be a good problem for the country to have
as But is that realistic? I honestly don't know. You know,
the gas sector certainly has its challenges, and you know,

(50:52):
kind of way i'd frame it is it feels like
it's in terminal decline, but as we found out last year,
we were surprised by the decline in gas. Either that
and it could be that someone explores and fines gas.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
So you know, all I know.

Speaker 22 (51:05):
All I know is people want electricity prices to come down, rightly,
so do I. There's a lot of political media scrutiny
on the sector, and you know, that seems the right
sort of focus from my perspective. We're open for change
and doing things, you know, differently than we have in
the past, and get on tackle the challenge that we've gotten,

(51:28):
try and ensure that the country has a secure and
affordable energy spot.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Where do you talk about the government's role. Do you
expect them to break up gent tailors or not?

Speaker 22 (51:37):
I honestly don't know. You know, I think that's a
question we'll find the answer to in a couple of weeks.
I don't think, you know, So if we did go
down that route, that doesn't solve the underlying problem. You know,
the underlying problem being gas suppliers. You could break the
gent tailors into one hundred pieces and that doesn't create

(51:59):
more gaps. So you know, if I look at what
the government has done is they've brought some firepower to
bear in the couple one hundred million bucks to support
expiration risk in the gas sector. I think that's a
really useful change for anybody who is willing to or
expecting to take risk in developing, you know, gas infrastructure.

(52:23):
So you know, those sorts of changes I think are helpful.
But I tell you we're open for any change that
will help make energy if more affordable and stimulate investment
in the country. So you know, wherever they land, you know,
we're open for Yeah, what we're up for and open
for change.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
You know, this sector has.

Speaker 22 (52:44):
Been under review. The market's been in place for twenty
nine years, and it's been reviewed consistently through that period.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
I've got to go random question, if there was no
real argument or politics around it. Would you be into nuclear?

Speaker 22 (53:02):
I think the natural resource that we've got the fact
that we've got so much water in this country MIC
that can help integrate the intermittent resources like wind and solar.
I think we can do it cheaper through the natural
bounty that we've got even if nuclear was available. So

(53:24):
I think we're really well placed in the country.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
You know.

Speaker 22 (53:26):
I think the long run, we're in really good shape.
I think we've just got to navigate this challenge that
we're we're currently in and you know, grot our teeth
a lot of it andre with the issues that in
front of us.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, OK, all right, good to talk to you appreciate
it very much. Interesting inside. Mike run who's the Meridian
chief executive, hasn't been a two more anybody.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
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Speaker 2 (53:57):
No you know my fastination with nuclear and it was
sparked to get yesterday the British government. Thirty billion they
announced for Sizeable C which is a nuclear part on
the Suffolk coastline. Ten thousand direct jobs, thousands and more
around the industry generally, are they going to produce enough
powder fueled six million homes. It's based on a thing
called Hinckley Point C. Problem with Hinckley Point C is

(54:18):
it's going to be switched on in the early twenty thirties.
It'll be more than a decade lat and cost billions
more than originally planned. So that's got the same sort
of consenting and building problems that we do in this country.
And of course that's before you get to ask the
question what about nuclear? If there was no real argument
or politics around it, would you be into nuclear. It's

(54:41):
a three trucker. It's a three trucker all day long.
Speaking of part just before we leave at ASBI, note
are offering five year interest free loans one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars for solar and battery systems. This is
for farms. They did a survey of a thousand farmers.
Seventy percent were interested in installing solar. Upfront costs. You
big barrier, most farms have rooftop. Didn't know that most

(55:02):
farms have rooftop. Sixty percent of the farms say they
had land that could be used for solar without reducing production.
So two hundred and fifty square meat. A ground solar
system would save farmers six hundred thousand dollars over the
lifetime of the panels, so that's not bad going. You
could pay it off. They think, I mean farms very

(55:23):
obviously individually, but they reckon by year six you're in
Clover no pun intended, so one fifty interest free. You'd
want a better that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 13 (55:32):
What season of Clacton's farm do you reckon? He'll be
putting solar on.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
It's not a bad idea. Ten minutes away from it.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
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dead be.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
What was interesting about Mike's comments is that there seems
no doubt as to the criminal damage done by the
previous government on the business of just rocking up to
New Plymouth one day and saying no more gas, no
more oil. Thanks very much for coming seven away from
eight new ride share company entering the market today, Bolt
are out of Europe. They claimed they headed to rupt
the duopoly. Adam Messner's Bolt New Zealand's general manager and

(56:03):
as well us Adam.

Speaker 23 (56:04):
Morning, Good morning, Mike, thank you for having me on
the show.

Speaker 6 (56:07):
Not at all.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Who have we when you said duopoly, who we actually
got I lose counts d d here is still oh
less still here?

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Miss?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Where are they are they?

Speaker 22 (56:14):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Just the two of them along with Uber?

Speaker 23 (56:16):
Now my understanding here in organized it's just Uber Diddy?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeares okay? So do we need more of you guys?
And how do you know?

Speaker 16 (56:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (56:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 23 (56:30):
If you have a look at the right here market
here in New Zealand, for the last couple of years,
it's been the competition has been stagnant at best. With
that lack of competitions led to increasing prices, limited choice
at decreasing service levels. So when we were looking at
New Zealand, we suspected that there was sort of a
growing sense of frustration amongst the drivers at that lack

(56:52):
of competition. As we've geared up for the launch, I
can tell you what we're seeing is absolutely supporting that suspicion.

Speaker 22 (57:00):
The drivers at our.

Speaker 23 (57:03):
Events have very much echoed that back to us, and
the sheer number of applications that we've seen has very
much said that we are a welcome breath of fresh air.

Speaker 22 (57:12):
When it comes to your competition.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
In the market, it's a free and open market and
if you see a gap good luck to you. Are
they are? They is Brian behind the wheel either a
NUBER driver or a d D driver or a or
a Bolt driver, depending on who you want them to be.

Speaker 22 (57:27):
Sorry, can you repeat that?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I've hopped into an uber and an uber can be
a taxi. A taxi can be an Uber, an Uber
can be a d D. It's just whatever you want
to call yourself. It's just an app, it's just a ride,
and they're on all the apps and so therefore they're
the same drivers the same cars.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (57:43):
Look, it's a competitive, open market for our driver partners,
so you may well have one driver partner working across
all platforms. I think where the real difference comes in
for for Bolt versus our competitors is that since we've
been founded, we've been the most as an operator in
the mobility sector, which means we've been able to take

(58:03):
those cost savings from the efficiencies and reinvest them where
it matters most and making sure that we're creating better
earning opportunities for our partner drivers.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
I mean, how do you do is that an algorithm
that you run? Now?

Speaker 23 (58:17):
To simplify, we run leanly and then we make sure
we pass on those savings to our partner drivers and
our riders.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Do you cancel when I order you and you hang
around for too long? Do you go and cancel on me?
And then do I have a hassle in getting my
money back? Like I do with Uber?

Speaker 23 (58:38):
We have settings around drivers and riders both being able
to cancel a ride and it will be fees involved
depending on what the scenario was and how long it took.

Speaker 8 (58:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
That sounds problematic already. This sounds just like more Uber
and more DD and MORELA and more of the same.

Speaker 23 (59:00):
Look I appreciate when you're looking at it from a distance,
you might see it is same for saying, but where
we really differentiate ourselves. It is simple, but it is effective.
We operate learning and we pass that value on to
our partner drivers our riders, So our riders are going
to get better access to reliable and affordable ways to
move around the city. What we're really looking to do

(59:22):
is to reduce the reliance that Aucklanders have on private
car ownership and move towards sustainable shared transport options.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Okay, well, I wish you were with Adam Medson, who's
just in Auckland. By the way. If it goes well,
it will spread elsewhere to pause them in a turnmohile,
There a couple and a half hour news for you.
In a couple of moments Politics Wednesday, because Jimmy Anderson,
Mark Mitchell with us half of the News, which is
next News.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
The News and the newsmakers, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
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Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
Dug.

Speaker 23 (01:00:09):
Everything is shelter.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
Tast part.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
This is Beattie Wolf.

Speaker 23 (01:00:23):
Spread into the sound.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Who's an activist, probably on the streets of Los Angeles
as we speak to me. Also a conceptual artist. She
met Brian at south By Southwest, which is quite cool
as a thing, Brian being Brian Eno. I like Brianyo
because Brian ENO's worked with Paul Simon over the years,

(01:00:48):
and Brian Ko is in that Rick Ruben school of
genius type people who do interesting things with interesting people.
I'm vibing this isn't one of them, but I could
be wrong. It's called lumin a sort of music you
expect to hear it a dentist.

Speaker 15 (01:01:04):
The most interesting thing is that it's come out at
the same time as another album called Lateral by the
same artists, which.

Speaker 13 (01:01:12):
Is just one long track.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
How long is it.

Speaker 13 (01:01:18):
Long? If that sounds like this, it'll be even longer
than it actually is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Well, this is eleven individual tracks. One's called Milky Sleep,
which I think this could be. This one couldn't make
this could be Milky Sleep. It's forty five let's call
it forty six minute swamp. I will need to find
this difficult thing, I mean, honestly. Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell
and Ginny Anderson both Weather's Good Morning, Morning, Juny. Are

(01:01:44):
you on the Select committee that's been dealing with the
stalking business?

Speaker 24 (01:01:49):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I thought you were. Yes, So I'm emboldened by the
process that I mean, forget the politics for a minute
and correcting change. It proves I think the point you've
made on the program before that there are select committees
and there are times when stuff does get fixed or
changed or amended. And this would be a good example

(01:02:11):
of it, wouldn't it.

Speaker 24 (01:02:12):
That's right, And they're often the most rewarding times and politics.
So I took a member's bill which did provide it
a new offense for stalking. And we're the difference between
us and national was is that they were still sticking
to one year, so three separate acts that would be
like stalking in one year. Yes, and we have reached
really close with the sector who work with women affected

(01:02:33):
by stalking, and we continued to lobby for two year
periods because we know that that works better and it
was great to be able to work collaboratively, to listen
to submissions, to understand what would work from police and
to make those changes to strengthen the law. So it's
a win for women being safe for and u Zalm
good and so from you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
From your point of view, Mark, so whatever you want
once to ask the question, but from your point of view,
are the police going to be able to enact this away?
Because we had ruth money on and having a law
is one thing when you ring the coppers and having
the reaction can sometimes be something different. So they are
going to be across this and it will work, It
will be more effective.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
Yeah, they will. And I think that yes, I agree
with Ginny. Is it certainly in terms of legislation like this,
and we know that women have been targeted and this
happens every day and every week around the country in
terms of harassment so and it was brought to caucus
and actually it was the Prime Minister that said, we
shed go as hard as we can on this and
give as much protection as we can to these women.
And so it went back to it went back to

(01:03:34):
slept me and there's agreement on that. And it's important. Look,
Ruth Bades does an outstanding job now on her role.
She's been advocating for victims for decades. The police, without
a doubt take this extremely seriously and they now have
the tools to be able to respond with a meaningful,
good response to these things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Good as apolitically as you can. Jinny. The Regulatory Standards Bill,
of which there is a lot of verbiage around at
the moment, do you hand on heart understand what it is.

Speaker 24 (01:04:02):
Well, it's a new framework that enables David Semore to
put his framework into it. So yeah, So typically we
would have a regulatory impact statement that's done by officials
who often given the most honest opinion on a bill.
When we're in opposition, we will look at that regulatory
impact statement and I will honestly say, there is no

(01:04:23):
problem yet that the government is trying to solve. This
is simply an election clache. So having that independent advice
is critical, and he is a real concern that his
ministry and his framework will be.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Doing all of that right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
So let me ask you this next question. Why would
his forget it's him because it will be the ministry
when he's long gone. Why would the ministry, as being
part of the public service, suddenly have a particular slant
that would worry so many people. The reason I asked
that question is having waded my way through it yesterday
because I thought, God, this is boring, but I better
learn about it. It's so you interpretation that you could

(01:05:03):
be right, but equally you could be wrong. Therefore, I
just don't know what the drama is about it.

Speaker 24 (01:05:08):
So there are real consumes, particularly in terms of removing
existing provisions like the Treaty and taking that away. So
we've always had that as a way of encouraging good
race relations, good way of consulting each other. So that
sort of angle, particularly post the Treaty Principles Bill, there's
a lot of fear about what this will be used for.
And you're right, there is an unknown element as to

(01:05:31):
how David Seymour will use this to further his own agenda.

Speaker 9 (01:05:35):
But I think all right, Markey, so I just said, Look,
he's obviously deeply focused on He's dedicated most of his
life to policy and good policy making and good public policy,
and I think that he's definitely brought this on with
the intent of making sure that in our country we
have the best public policy we can have in the world.

(01:05:56):
And I think that all that Labour are going to
do is continue to talk about and treaty, fear and
treaty instead of actually talking about the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
But Mark, do you understand it hand on heart? I mean,
not right or wrong, just do you get what he's
trying to do or not.

Speaker 9 (01:06:09):
I do get what he's trying to do because he
is deeply passionate about trying to make sure that as
a country we have absolute consistency across our public policy.
And you know, he's always been a campaigner for that.
He's always been clear about that, and that's what he's
trying to achieve. That the bill will go through a
full slept mini process. Everyone will have a chance to
make a submission. That's great democracy. We live at one
of the best industries of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
And you know, okay, brief break, mod mate, hold on
Genny two seconds, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell. It's thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Be' be Politics, Wednesday, sixteen past day. Jenny Anderson, Mark Mitchell.
Just a couple of broad quick ones for you, Ginny
keew We Saber for farms. Todd mcclay's made a promise
that we should get access of kee We Saber for farms.
Would you have any fundamental objection to that as opposed
to just houses.

Speaker 24 (01:07:00):
Have to take a look at how that works, and
without knowing that, I'm not going to pledge that. We
need to see how it works and how it operates.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
But so you can take a chunk of your money
to buy a farm, the same way you can take
a chunk of your money to buy our.

Speaker 24 (01:07:12):
First house if it's a first house. So if it's
a first property, that that's something that's possible. The problem
we've had under tough times recently is people have lost
their home because of a mortgage sale and then they're
prevented from buying a second one because they've already used
that key resaver. So very small number of times right now,
there's a few out there who have actually lost their
home and they want to go into buy a second one,

(01:07:33):
and they've said that's number two. So you don't get
that interesting market.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Are you guys working on this? Given todds the promise?

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
No, No, one hundred percent. I mean I was at
a young Farmer's meeting about six weeks ago and Morrisville,
and this is one of the things that they brought
forward in terms of can they access that money to
allow them to get their first herd together or vistn
Stock give them helping handed to their first farm. And
so we see this as has been something that's really
important to them, and that's why we.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Were you know, okay, have I either of you got solar?

Speaker 22 (01:08:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Would you? Are you interested?

Speaker 15 (01:08:07):
Is it a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
What's your power? What's your power bill Ginny per month?
Round figures?

Speaker 24 (01:08:14):
Oh, about three hundred It's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
What's yours?

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Not on all your house, it's just the one you
live in.

Speaker 9 (01:08:20):
It's a bit higher because I have to admit we
are running the sparple in that.

Speaker 24 (01:08:29):
Wow, I'm going to a tub bath.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Sorry, Mark, I was laughing too much. What's your monthly power?
I've got it's very very hard and you enjoys nothing
wrong with the spark it's nothing wrong with the sparkle.
What what's your monthly bill roughly.

Speaker 9 (01:08:47):
Would be for aund closer to four hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
See, that's not bad, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
What what's holding you back? Ginny doing something about that?
Or do you you know there's three hundred for you
that's doable and that's life and you don't need solar
or wouldn't mill or anything else.

Speaker 24 (01:09:01):
Yeah, I would look at sola. I think that having
the affordability of panels is something that's important and I
think for those people who have invested and you get
to sell back to the grid, that's a great outcome.
So you're increasing our resilience and producing it, but you're
also lowing the household bill. So things like that are
quite smart.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Mark this corruption report that came out yesterday, the third
report from this particular committee. Do you see corruption? Is
it getting worse? And are the people who should be
on top of it on top of it?

Speaker 22 (01:09:32):
So the report is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
Very good in the sense of obviously Casey has brought
this group together because as a country, we want to
make sure that we're head of the curve that we're
ident to find clearly what our threats and threats and
risks are and that's what these reports are doing. So yes,
we can't be naive or complacent. When you look at
our where we are on the on the corruption index

(01:09:55):
is that we still made no mistake. Let's get some
perspective around it. We're still one of the least countries
in the world, so we're doing well. However, yet from
twenty seventeen we have dropped down to fourth place. So
we're doing quite a bit of work. And I was
out with our outstanding Director of the CFO, Karen Chang,
about a month ago we were launching a new foreign

(01:10:15):
Interference and Bribery tool and education campaign which included an
encrypted reporting capability. Because we are taking positive steps and
making sure that we do deal with this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Hey, Ginny, I'm reading yesterday a piece that says, can
I just say.

Speaker 24 (01:10:29):
Something to go for it? That is a huge risk
and it's concerning that this government cut funding to customs.
Right after that we see a massive spike in meth
inphetamine and still not that investmentment in anti corruption. We
had a meth in fetamine ring operating ap Auckland airport
using the baggage. That is a direct impact on our

(01:10:51):
credibility and there needs to be more action taken by
this government to counter the increasing pressure meth in fetamine
ninety six increase, overdoses, increase. This is impacting our communities
and the government is standing around with its hands in
its pockets saying that we need to do more.

Speaker 9 (01:11:09):
So I can assure you we're not standing around with
their hands in their pockets. And I just point out
the fact that we have dropped to fourth place under
the Labor government in terms of corruption. There's been more
money going to corrections and by the way, we are
hammering the gangs, and the gangs are the ones that
are responsible for sorry for customs and well there's a
lot of money gone into corrections as well, but we

(01:11:30):
are hammering the gangs, and everyone knows that organized crime
and the gangs are behind a lot of the corruption,
the attempted to get people work in the ports, you know,
the distribution of methamphetamine, the misery that comes with that.

Speaker 22 (01:11:43):
So no, we're doing a lot of work on this.

Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
We take public safety really seriously and we're making some
good progress, but we know we've got a long way
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Got the mind of you guys. Appreciate it very much.
Jimmy Anderson, Mark Mitchell, eight twenty.

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Has Jack shin up hungover again? You're not sure how
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Speaker 6 (01:12:21):
One?

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
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not really, numbers are. It's on a twelve month pilot.

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It's not a phone, so why they keep calling it
a hot line? I got no idea, but four hundred
is your number after one week, first day, one hundred
and twelve. So that's all you pent up frustration. Obviously
you got an opportunity to let it out one hundred
and twelve complaint. They tape it off as the week
went on. Last week eighty two, followed by forty five,
followed by forty three, followed by thirty six, by June eight,

(01:13:25):
which is a couple of days ago dip to twenty eight,
rising significantly on Monday to thirty nine. Bit a week
in frustration. You're out in the bat you saw a
few carnes you thought must get onto the old hot line.
So add all that together you got about four hundred
Auckland leading hot spot, not surprisingly, Wellington fifty seven, christ
Church twenty two. So that's to my eye, exhausted the

(01:13:48):
frustration and the scenario. Now the next question, and we
are onto the semi from the research department. There's this
morning going to be following this up because what I
wanted to know at the time. It's all very well
opening up a hot line, but once people go what
about this? What about the next thing? Who responded? How
did they respond? How long did it take them to respond?
How many of the four hundred complaints were accurate as

(01:14:09):
opposed to somebody just going by and going, oh, that
looks like a few too many cones to me. And
what actually got done? Did anything materially change or was
this just a sop from the government to sort of
shut us up Momentarily.

Speaker 13 (01:14:22):
It's like it's being used about the same amount as to.

Speaker 22 (01:14:25):
Who are.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Tas Mania told you the other day fell apart, had
a vote of no confidence in the government. The vote passed,
so he had to wander off to the Governor General,
which he did. Governor General instead of going right, let's
have an election, said they'll think about what to do.
And we're now in a sense of obeyance. So what's
happening in the mighty Taz? What was Steve Price? After

(01:14:49):
the news?

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Which is next the only report you need to start
your day? The my costume, Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities,
Life News togs hed been by Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
I've got six kilowats of solar cost seventeen thousand bucks
eleven years ago. Our average bill is about one hundred
dollars a month, and we've got to spark Paul four
freezers and electric cooking, hot water, although we do through
the wetback. I don't know if that's good. Is that good?
Seems all right to me? Twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 16 (01:15:17):
Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Yeah, I'll trade. You're our old mate, Stephen Price.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Good morning to you, very good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
One out of left field, because I'm the only one
who's interested in Tasmania, this business of the vote of
no confidence. So Rockcliff wanders off yesterday to the Governor General.
And what happened because the Governor General instead we go
and go for it. Mate, because you don't have a
government anymore. Is sort of thinking about it. How does
that work?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Very weird, very strange. And the Republicans will be up
and about today suggesting this is why we don't need
to be a constitutional Bonarcky. I would have thought the
Governor General's role was to just yeah, so can you
form a government? And then you say no, not with
any confidence, then we need an election. But she's decided
that she's going to spend a few days mulling over

(01:16:06):
the options are.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
What are the options those?

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Well, she could invite the Labor Party to try and
form a coalition with the Greens. I guess she could
suggest to the Liberal Party that they have a vote
to change their leader. That might give more confidence to
another group of loose coalition of governments to put Tasmania
back under control of the Conservatives. But she could also

(01:16:30):
more than likely announce an election. So I don't know
what the delay is. I'm not sure what.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Interesting because the vote of confidence was last eighteen to
seventeen is do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Part? Question?

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
One?

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Does anyone in Australia care about Tasmania?

Speaker 13 (01:16:44):
Two?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Would the election materially change given what's happened at the
federal level since the Tasmania election last year?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
Well, answer the second part, probably Labor would get elected.
Answer to the first part, does anyone care? Well, most
people loo care. Follow this strange game we play over
a here called Australian rules football because link to this
is the construction of a brand new roof stadium in
Hobart to host a new Tasmanian football team into years time.

(01:17:13):
That's who cares about it because most people have some
level of sympathy for Tasmania. They like as a tourist destination,
they love the way they are obsessed with footy, and
so maybe we care about that. But in the general
scheme of things, Tazzy sort of gets left off the map.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Right next random question, you'll enjoy getting up so early
to deal with me. This morning, I'm watching this Press
Club thing yesterday. Tom Connell, who's my favorite person as
you well understand, apart from your good self on SkyTV.
He's hosting the thing at the Press Club. What's the
is he like? How come you get a day off
work on the Telly to go host an event like that?

(01:17:49):
What's that about? Or is that seen as prestigious?

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
He's the president of the Press Club, so normally what
they do is use Tom to host those things. And
it's guy quite happy about it because the Prime Minister
and all these ministers run around the country talk and
get all you know, you can't believe what you hear
on Sky after Dark. So just so you and your
audience understand what that means. Come six o'clock at night,

(01:18:14):
Sky becomes a very opinionated news source. During the day,
it's rolling news. So Tom seeners prior to the Sky
after Dark. Devil's like myself, and that's why he's allowed
to host things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Okay, would they not let you host, Steve? Are you
a tainted I would not be invited today? He listen.
I heard you on Kyle and Jackie, Oh yesterday? Hey
what I did? So I just you can't move without
me knowing where you go and what you do? How
much arm twisting? Because to explain to everybody Kyle is
I mean to give him his credit, he's a very

(01:18:47):
successful operator in Sydney radio. Not so successful as you
quite rightly pointed out in Melbourne radio. How hard do
they have to twist it? And you hate it? You
guys don't get on. How hard do they have to
twist your arm to walk into a studio?

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Well, the figure kept going up, right, let's be frank, right,
So I needed to see my accountant in Sydney anyway,
so I thought, well, why not I'll go up there,
see the accountant, get Kyle to pay me some money
and give me a hotel overnight. That was a very
interesting experience because we do not like each other noo.
But he is an absolute puppy when it comes to

(01:19:21):
facing someone face to face who has been a face critic.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Interesting, isn't it. I got that sense of it. I
got the sense of it because I didn't see it.
I heard it. And as soon as you were announced
and you walked in, you could hear in his voice.
In fact, I think he said something like oh oh oh,
and then suddenly were all mates again.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Well, I did appear from under a black sheet, which
is rather funny, and you can see that on the
KISSFM website if you care to have a look.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Okay, good on you. Now, now where was I What
did Elbow have to say by the way back of
the press club.

Speaker 3 (01:19:54):
Well, he wants to talk fast. It's going to happen
later next month and he's going to get business unions
and goverment together. Now what annoys me about these sorts
of things is they've been in government for three years.
If you recognize there's a massive problem, as there is
in Australia with productivity. Why wouldn't you do something about
it while you were running the country. But Anthony iveneas
he chose yesterday's speech too make all sorts of claims

(01:20:17):
about how he's going to get the economy up and
running again. As opposition spoke from Ted O'Brien said, it's
just going to be another talk fest. He said three
years they've had to get the productivity disaster under control
and haven't done it. Turning it around as akin to
turning around the Titanic. The other thing that business worries
about when you have one of these round tables, the

(01:20:37):
unions get invited, of course, and then they make all
sorts of claims about what they believe should happen. And
all of the unions have immediately said, oh, well it's
okay to cut red take, but you have to look
after workers. You've got to look after their health and
safety and blah blah blah. So what it will be,
roughly is a sit down. What will happen out of
it not very much, but it allows the Prime Minister

(01:20:59):
make a ground statement like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Here's my prediction for next year with Melbourne opening the
F one, they'll they'll open with the world champion, who's
a local.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Well, that would be brilliant, wouldn't it. March six' eighth
for all our listeners Across New. Zealand if you want
to get To melbourne for the twenty twenty Six Formula
One Grand, prix the tickets will set out like wildflow
when they go on. Sale my advice would be if
you don't want to pay a huge amount to attend
the race on The Sunday saturday is one of the
best days to. Go and INTERESTINGLY f one has also

(01:21:34):
dropped the Famous Italian Grand prix At imola and Added
madrid to the. Schedule so it's great That melbourne will
open the season and If oscar had to be the
raigning world, Champion.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Hey tell us the other. Thing not only were you
appearing On Sydney radio yesterday and we talked about your
coverage On SKY, tv the other thing you're involved, in
which is the project which was here of course not
Your australian, version but a local. Version they got canned last,
year so you guys have been. Binned AND i thought
you made a very good point about the localization of
The melbourne. Workforce in other, words you, know will they

(01:22:06):
get work in your answer seems to be, no they.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Won't, WELL i looked around the room and thank you
for mentioning. It there was eighty young people standing, there
men and women who put together a show that's been
on air for sixteen. Years fifteen of. It i've been
sitting on the desk on A monday and the production
values are really. High you know about, television it takes
a lot of good people to make GOOD. Tv you
can make CHEAP tv just sitting people around a, desk

(01:22:29):
but this was more than. That and now The Ten
networks decided to make a new program coming out Of.
Sydney it's going to be a cheaper. Version it's going
to be called something behind The lines four times a.
Week it sounds like a cheap version of a current,
affair to be, honest And i'm not sure that it's
going to. Work but it's very sad for the people In,

(01:22:50):
melbourne And melbourne has lost pretty much. Everything the only
thing that comes out of LIVE tv In melbourne now
is have you been paying attention to the comedy? Show
and a couple of foot foot program.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Speaking i'm also reading this. Morning by the, way THE
abc is going to KILL q AND.

Speaker 18 (01:23:03):
A is that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
True do you?

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Know, yep it. Is that's On Hugh mark's Expos channel
nine now running the abcne putting a knife through that
business as.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Well well all right, mate go, well we'll catch up next. WEEK.
Stevee price out Of australia This wednesday, morning eight forty, five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
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Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Not really into civil disobedience as a general, activity BUT
i know yet again On Tamahiri road this is in
The White cat had told you about this the other,
day the chicanes that the council of the district council
put up with absolutely no. Consultation after half a Dozen
win just, SAID i think we need to make people
go a bit. Slower so they put these chicanes up
and without, consultation the local community went nuts and they

(01:23:46):
sort of pulled them all. Down they keep pulling them,
down they keep putting them. UP i just wonder how
long it's going to go. On for average speed on
this particular road with sixty k's about fifteen percent of
the driver's speeding at more than seventy you're talking about
lifestyle blocks in the. Area it's not like a heavily
built up area at. All there's been a bit Of
facebook back and. Forward councils failed to provide sufficient justification
for the, measures So i'm sort of, like not on their.
Side good, On, oh.

Speaker 13 (01:24:06):
They's end the wrong.

Speaker 15 (01:24:06):
Approach we've got your. Cage should they add a? Hairpin
maybe along straight maybe a pit?

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Lane not a bad, idea talk in my. Language very
big survey gallop survey in The, states The state Of
American Jobs, study and they talk to eighteen thousand. People
and this is interesting because one of the things you
have people talk to me, About, howney you get up
at two thirty in the. Morning that the Advantage i've
always had is that you get up at the same

(01:24:33):
time every, Day, so in other, words you've got. Routine
you can structure your life in your day around your weird.
Hours whereas the people who can't do. That and it
turns out to be AND i have no reason to
believe it would be any different, here but the number
of people who can't do that is. Extraordinary and if
your day gets mucked about and your roster gets mucked,
about and you've got no idea when you're, working how you're,
working why are you're, Working then all sorts of dreadful things,

(01:24:54):
Happen so predictable. Schedules if you've got a predictable, schedule
in other, words you get up at the same time
and go to work at the same time every, day
you have more financial, security you've got better work life,
balance you've got more overall. Satisfaction forty one percent forty
one percent Of american. Workers you imagine how many millions
of people that involves they had little or no control

(01:25:15):
over how many hours they, work what days they, work
and when they can take time. Off and more than
a quarter than twenty five, percent even twenty five, percent
that's millions and millions and tens of millions Of. Americans
they don't know their schedule two weeks or more in.
Advance thirty eight, Percent so over a, third well over
a third with low quality schedules reported facing financial. Hardship

(01:25:36):
so there's something in, there isn't. THERE i just wonder
whether it can be. FIXED i wonder WHETHER ai is
going to help us, out and all of that sort of.
Thing the other quick thing for, you AND i know
nothing about, this but across The tasman mcwings have been
a thing At macis for a. While they were here
for a trial, period but the mcwings and ies just
started thinking about. This if you're, McDonald's why are you

(01:25:59):
in fried? Chicken what's the? Point what are you trying
to achieve with fried chicken when other people do fried
chicken and probably do it better than, you and just
calling it a mick wing is Not it's not your core,
business you know What i'm. Saying Because, starbucks which has
fascinated me for, years started out as. Coffee then they
do they do anything but coffee now and they've completely

(01:26:20):
and utterly lost their. Way and it's no surprise because
what they do is they just invent new crap of different,
colors hoping that you'll be fascinated by. It AND i
wonder if this is just another. Mistake stick with what you,
know be good at what you, do and be consistent with,
it and people know where you're. At your customer know
where you keep inventing. Things it's like me playing. Music

(01:26:40):
it's LIKE i turn up tomorrow. Morning we're not doing the.
Show we're just going to play some. Records you wouldn't
know where you're at would, You so we're not going
to do. That nine away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
The Mate Hosking breakfast with The, Defender octor and use
Togs head B.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Mike as an airline, worker my last weeks have been
starting at five in the, morning five thirty in the,
morning ten at, night ten at, night then seven in the,
morning totally different week in week. Out brings up the
question you know that going into your, job so therefore
you can't be, Surprised but then does it have to
be that way because that must be awfully? Disrupted, Mike
is it correct That wimbledon this year is only going
to be On Disney? Plus and if, so why pay

(01:27:16):
For Sky? Phil that's the ongoing debate we're having on this.
Program if you're not a, REGULAR i don't know About,
DESERT i don't know About. Wimbledon it could well Be
disney's into sport because they've GOT espn Sour ESPN's got the,
tennis then, yes and why pay For sky will Because
sky will have something you'll want to, watch and they'll have.
You they've got The warriors and they've got The All.
Blacks THE nfl is another. One we did the numbers
for THE nfl The American football the other day costs

(01:27:37):
you two and a half thousand dollars if you want
to watch EVERY nfl game this coming, season two and
a half thousand. Dollars with all the streaming services, around
it's just. Crazy the whole thing's out of.

Speaker 13 (01:27:45):
Control AND i See Warner discovery is now splitting.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
It they'll split up and so one. Streaming once, television
you've got no idea where you're. At and that's Before
disney bought Colm cast. Overnight it's just like five minutes
away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Savings Now trump's Celebrating america's two undred and fiftieth. Birthday
don't even get me started on the actual dt of.
That but, anyways At Fort, Bragg Fort bragg Is Fort,
bragg but it used to Be Fort. Liberty but it's
now back At Fort.

Speaker 20 (01:28:13):
Breg it was only that little brief moment that it
wasn't Called Fort bragg was by The biden, administration Not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
TRUMP i had nothing to do with.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
It you we got it.

Speaker 20 (01:28:25):
Changed we, said you, KNOW i came here numerous times
and everybody they kept Saying Fort bregg Fort.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
BRAGG i, said it's not the.

Speaker 5 (01:28:33):
Name but THEN i was making a.

Speaker 20 (01:28:35):
SPEECH i, said what do you THINK i should call this?
Place called it Fort? BREGG i, said Fort? Bragg how you?
Doing we want a lot of battles from this. Place
and that's the way it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
IS i wasn't finished. There, actually for a little breaking.

Speaker 20 (01:28:47):
News we are also going to be restoring the names
To Fort, Pickett Fort, Hood Fort, Gordon Fort, Rucker Fort,
Polk fort Ap, hill And.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Ford ROBERT.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
E Lee, hmmm he's Is he talked about the. Riots
he's talked about the. RIOTS i don't even know that
they are, riots to be.

Speaker 20 (01:29:14):
Honest they were put into The United states and allowed
to stay here because we had a, grossly grossly unfit
president who listened to whoever was operating the auto, pen
and they allowed these people to. Stay and by the,
Way i've known this guy for a long. Time he
was never the sharpest, ball but you know what he.

(01:29:36):
Was he wasn't a radical left. Lunatic he never dreamt
about open.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
Borders he never.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Said, That and so went, on it's entirely. Possible who'll
be still speaking of time? Tomorrow, uh we will be
back from six as Almost Happy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
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