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October 10, 2024 89 mins

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 11th of October, the Government books are in worse shape than we thought, so is this bad from a reputation standpoint for a National-led Government? Steven Joyce joined the show to discuss. 

The Auld Mug is officially up for grabs as of this weekend, so Team NZ boss Grant Dalton talks to Mike ahead of the race. 

Mike has an issue with the new Afternoons hosts Tyler Adams and Matt Heath, so he aired his grievances to Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson while Wrapping the Week. 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed
to intrigue and use togs.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That'd be Molly.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
You're welcome today. Stephen Joyce on the state of the
government's box, which small clue aren't good as a good
scrap in Southland between the farmers and the fisher people.
We get back to Florida, we look at the mess
that is the Wellington Airport share vote. Timkadie do the week,
Murray and Richard, they cover the global bits for us
as well. Pask here we go for a Friday, seven
past six. Another small gem to come out of the
census is that we are working less. Does that surprise

(00:33):
He doesn't remotely surprise me. I still connect, maybe foolishly,
work with success in the sense that attitude and life
is everything. People with the right attitude tend to be
successful in workout. They tend to get stuff done, They
tend to have ideas. They tend to be more upbeat,
more into life, more active. The malaise that this country's
gone through as a result of COVID is reflected in
the various approaches to work that have come out of it,

(00:55):
i e. The fact we don't like work, We want
four day weeks, we want not to come to the
office anymore, or we like the unemployment benefit, we like
the quiet quitting. There are, in fact only two point
six million of us in work. Think about that for
a moment. Half the country works, half don't. That's not
a lot of people raise the money to pay for
all the stuff we want. Anyway, upon finding out that
we work less, Good old Radio New Zealand who else

(01:17):
went straight to the sort of person you would expect
to seize upon our approach to work, to have them
espouse the idea that we should in fact work less. Yes,
they rang some academics, people cloistered away from the royal
world to tell us we should be working less. Not
only did they want us to work less, they profit
the idea that if we work less, our productivity might
go up. Ah productivity the age old debate. Now, the

(01:40):
simple truth is we know we are not very productive
as a country, and we want to improve that. So
we've talked about it literally for decades, and yet have
we improved it? No, we have not, And I can
tell you for nothing, working less does not productivity improve
There are, of course smarter ways to work. Set the
task can get it done, les around, fewer road cones

(02:01):
and smoke os more digging the whole, that sort of thing.
I was going to say, I actually like work. Work
is good. You have to enjoy your work, of course,
and for many I think that's probably part of the
productivity issue. If you don't like your job, it's hard
to do more of it. But enjoyment is a choice,
and certainly for most what you do for a crust
is in fact a choice, and from personal experience, if

(02:22):
you love what you do, it's not actually work. And
maybe if we broke the mindset that work is a problem,
work is bad, then we wouldn't be as unproductive, and
they might be able to find an academic who says
we should work more because it's good for you.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
News of the World in ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Clean up in Florida is underway, although the warning's still
being issued.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Deadly hazards to remain, including down power lines, flooded roads.
Operate your generator safely, and if you're cleaning up damage,
be careful when you're using tools and power equipment, and
blue be sure to drink plenty of water. And avoid
heat exhaustion.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Kaylor was there when the water arrived.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
The only thing that kept dry was my top in
and the only way I can buy a seat was
on my boss's desk because the chairs were just flowing,
couches were floating, everything was floating.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
The police had they work cut out.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
We've had multiple calls, possibly as many as eighteen residents
reported there being trapped. So we have a personnel from
Clearwater Police, clear Water Fire, and the Panela's County Sheriff's
Office high water Rescue teams on hand to try to
check on the welfare of those people.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
This blog was rescuing people who didn't leave.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
These are individuals in areas where we've never seen flooding,
never seen flooding, and to go from no flooding to
three feet of water up over your knees, I can
imagine how frightening it was for everybody here.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
A lot of people stuyed because I didn't think it
was going to be coming to the applace.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
When you're from Florida, you don't expect that it's going
to be as bad.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
We've been through a bunch of them and they've never
been this bad, so you kind of think it's going
to be the same.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
In other news, quickly Kite as in the princesses, sprung
a surprise visit overnight.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Just before lunchtime to day. It was also confirmed that
the princess was also going to join him, that she
had decided that she also want wanted to come up
here with her husband. Now they wanted to keep the
visit in some ways as private as possible.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Finally, new study out of Northwestern the University has found
there are hundreds of viruses living at all times on
your toothbrush and shower head. We get how many, six
hundred and fourteen, mind you, they said there are probably more.
The lead researchers said, quote in a very unresearchery way,
it's absolutely wild. We found many viruses that we know

(04:30):
very little about, and many others, in fact, we've never
seen before ever. So they're now taking a deep dive
because they suspect those viruses are playing a part and
are increasing resistance to antibiotics. Views of the world in
ninety if there's one race that's already been won, it's
Karmla Harris, who, by the way, if you didn't see
the Howard Stern interview, that she did with him or
he did with her. It's worth a watch for a
variety of different reasons. Anyway, she's won the race on

(04:51):
money one billion dollars so far in still counting, so
she's not short of the dough. It's eleven past six.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
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Speaker 3 (05:07):
It's amazing what happens when you give a country to
the socialists. For years, the Germans were run by Conservatives,
of course, and they were the powerhouse, the factory of Europe,
and I note overnight having handed it to the socialists,
three parties run that place, and as it turns out,
they're running the place into the ground. They've downgraded their
forecast for growth in twenty twenty four. In fact, they've
downgraded it so much, in fact there will be no growth.

(05:28):
In fact, there will be less than growth. There will
be shrinkage. Fifteen past six from JM I Weld Neadrew Kellaho.
Good morning, very good modern Mike, speaking of shrinkage. A
lot of red and a lot of black for us. Yeah,
it's the government books.

Speaker 9 (05:46):
Well, look at least we've got interest rates now moving
in a direction that will please borrowers. And remember, Mike
aus we all know the government has a big borrow
so that's and that's not changing for a while. So
lower interest rates, they're a welcome trend for the government. Look,
the government released their books yesterdays the end of June,
so that's the government financial year. Look, they don't make
great reading, Mike, and I think the look can I

(06:08):
suggest that the Finance Minister will be galvanized by this
outcome because it really does highlight the challenges ahead if
your objective is balancing the books, as the current government
has stated. So the clunkily titan titled Obi gal the
operating balance before gains and losses three point four billion
dollars worse than the previous year, but more pointedly, at

(06:30):
twelve point nine billion, it's one point eight billion worse
than was anticipated at the May budget economic and physical updates.
So I think that will be of concern, that deterioration
from where they thought it was going to be to
where it ended up.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
So the operating.

Speaker 9 (06:44):
Balance, Mike, as we know, is revenue less expenses. It's negative.
You've got to deficit because your expenses are higher than
your revenue, and the government tension is to get that
round the other way by twenty seven to twenty eight,
so that revenue will be greater than your expenses. Now
one hundred and sixty seven point three billion. Look, it
was fourteen point three billion dollar higher than the previous year,

(07:07):
so they had higher tax inflows PI tax. Actually PI
Fond's PI fund tax was up. That's because investment returns
been pretty good. So it was also higher than was
expected in.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
The budget update as well.

Speaker 9 (07:19):
Unfortunately, on the other side of the ledger, your expenses
at one hundred and eighty billion were eighteen point two
billion higher than the previous year, but more importantly, they
were four point four billion higher than expected in the
budget Economic and Fiscal update. Now, those increases were spread
across a number of areas. Wage costs were significant. You've

(07:39):
got cost increasing across core crown areas and Crown entities
and acc actually acc significant component of that Crown entity deficit.
Just swinging to look at the net core Crown debt
because it obviously is important, reached one hundred and seventy
five point five billion as at thirty June, so that's
forty two and a half of GDP. Remember the current

(08:02):
government has restated how they look at those numbers. It
is now twenty billion more than the previous year. The
government is trying to get that to forty percent of
GDP and might to just reiterate these numbers highlight the
challenges they had for the government to achieve the balanced budget. Now, now,
on that revenue yes, sorry, on the expenses, yes, expenses

(08:23):
has gone up, but just remember revenue, sorry, expenses.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Went up post COVID.

Speaker 9 (08:28):
We were told those increases were temporary, but they never dropped,
and they went up an awful lot post COVID, and
they have never come back. The other thing is that
every year the government issumes it will spend a little more.
That's called the operating allowance. They put that at two
point four billion, but increased costs on current spending virtually
choose all that up before you've made any dent in

(08:50):
the deficit. They're already at a very parsimonious level. So
I would say expect tight control of government spending and
savings to continue and to be a feature of the
next couple of years.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Even there's reputational issues politically at play there. So we'll
talk to Stephen Joyce about that. Up to seven o'clock
this morning two point four a little bit hotter than
they thought in America.

Speaker 9 (09:09):
Yeah, this is Inflation Watch. Inflation Watch Friday, the latest
reading on inflation. US inflation overnight interesting if you look
at read the arbiuns head commentary on Wednesday, Mike Brief
though it was it did refer to global risks, so
it would be pretty unhelpful if officer inflation started to reaccelerate.
So USCPI overnight zero point two percent from month of
September two point four percent year on a year. But

(09:30):
look at the core stuff call x food and energy,
it was up zero point three and three point three
percent year on year, so it's sort of drifting in
the wrong direction, slightly higher than expected. FED does keep
a close eye on this, but just remember their preferred
measure is called PCEE inflation. Also, they've got this dual
mandate signal recently. The focus might be sort of drifting

(09:51):
towards the labor market. Well, jobless claims overnight is lifted,
so negative US on the jobs market. So we've sort
of got conflicting data pushed me, pull me, share markets
and have sort of looked at that and sort of
not really known where to go, so they're sort of
relatively stable overnight.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Right, Sorry, carry.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
On, Yeah, just one thing, mite.

Speaker 9 (10:09):
We haven't spoken about this at all, but over the
next week we're going to start to hit a little
bit more about potential impact of these storms on US
economic data. Hasn't been talked about much yet, but.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Yeah, be interesting to see Helen's major they had a number,
I saw a beighty something billion in terms of damage.
It'll be interesting to see what comes out of Florida
and the lack of insurance and stuff.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
Anyway, what are the numbers, that's right, the Dow Jones
it's down one hundred and thirty four points. That's point
three percent, is not huge, four to two three seven seven.
The S and P five hundred is down eleven points
point two percent five seven eight zero. And as we speak,
the nasdak of I'm just going to call it flat
eighteen thousand, two hundred and eighty overnight. The Forts one
hundred lost six eight two three seven, so fairly stable.

(10:47):
The Necke was up quarter percent thirty nine three eight ozo.
The Shangho composite up one point three percent, So those
Asia markets stabilizing a bit that's up forty three points
three three oh one. The ASEX two hundred yesterday gained
thirty six points point four to three percent eight two
to eight, and we lost twenty two points in the
nzec's fifty closing at twelve thousand, seven hundred and fifty

(11:08):
four Kim dollar point six as seven two against the
US point nine oh three six ozsie point five five
six eight, Euro point four six five eight against the
pound ninety point four to two. Japanese yen gold stable
two thousand, six hundred and twenty US dollars. Sprint crud
drifted back up a bit seventy nine dollars and eighteen
cents to close the week.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
All right, might go, well see you Monday. No, I
won't see you Tuesday. Andrew kellahea Joemwealth dot co dot
m Z tasky christrch Airport gang busters twenty five percent
increase in seak capacity coming on the long hauls. United's
back three times a week, Singapore's bumping their service domestically,
christeuch to Aalkland's going up in terms of seats quantus
one hundred and seventy five thousand more seats. This is

(11:49):
christ tourch to Brisbane and Jet Stars piling on another
one hundred and eighty seven one thousand seats as well.
So christ do atch Airport Booming good Stuff. Six to
twenty one, Briday Morning on the My Costings Red News
Talk zeb.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
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Speaker 3 (12:11):
Your piece on workers spot On. It's an attitude problem.
Work gives meaning to and discipline to life, and raising
productivity gives a healthy, thriving economy which raises everyone's success.
Couldn't agree more. The opposite note, Kios Starmer is introduced
over night his Employment Rights Bill. This is a flagship
labor policy. Protection against unfair dismissal now starts from day one.
Statutory probation period for all new hires from day one.

(12:34):
Allowed to take bereavement leave from day one, So you
get the general theme.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
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Speaker 3 (12:44):
Year round Britain. We've got an apology this morning from
Pus Morgan had so he had a guest on a
show called Jaguar Wright. She was a sex worker turned singer.
Aren't they all who had attended a number of diddies
freak out parties. She went, as they say, a bit
off peace.

Speaker 10 (12:59):
How many victims potentially do you think they could be?

Speaker 11 (13:02):
Thousands?

Speaker 12 (13:03):
Thousands? I have three victims right now who are willing
to give testimony about not only what mister Carter has
done to them, but his wife as well. They're a
nasty little couple.

Speaker 13 (13:16):
They do nasty things.

Speaker 14 (13:18):
Well do you think happened with Kim.

Speaker 12 (13:20):
Keeping people against their will, putting people on planes while
they're unconscious.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Who is this nasty little couple? Into Jay Z and
Beyonce's attorney Elex Spiro.

Speaker 15 (13:32):
Listen, there's rumors and then there's nonsense. And this is
one step further right. This is appointed and formal accusation
of something I felt they needed to be responded to.
I think somebody reported it was a cease and desist.
It wasn't that. It was quite bluntly an ultimatum, remove
that false accusation that's demonishrably false, or a court's going
to order you to right.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So they sort of go around to saying sorry about that.

Speaker 10 (13:57):
The people making these claims have an audience with or
without shows like well, Jay you were right. Unexpectedly made
several serious allegations about jay Z and Beyonce during that interview.
Their lawyer's contact is to say that those claims were
totally false and have no basis in fact, and we
therefore comply with a legal request to cut them from
the original interview. Editing interviews is not something we do

(14:18):
lightly at a show called Uncensored, but there are legal
limits on us too when we apologize to jay Z
and Beyonce.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay, then so they did so, fair enough too. Now
section seventy. I started reading about section seventy earlier on
this week, which gives you an insight into just how
gripping my life is. And I thought, the section seventy,
this is going to be interesting to see how it
bubbles up and what's gone. And what's interesting about section
seventy is that the minister, I think it was Tom McLay, said,
don't you worry about siction. Semity will get this all

(14:48):
sorted out. And I thought, oh, peel, well, I don't
have to worry about this. Then the next thing, and
I'm talking to Jason Hirick, who's coming on the program
in a couple of moments, talking about section Sibty, and
this has got to do with the fisher people and
the farmers and things down south are not good. You're
wondering what I'm talking about more in a moment.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Speaker 3 (15:16):
Togs Head been that's right, it's Nobel Price time again.
This morning we have literature, and this is where it
goes slightly off peace in the sense that when you're
dealing with physics and chemistry and stuff, or even economics,
it's less concept and more specific than what they've done.
Literature tends to be a little bit different. Hang Kang
is your winner. She's an author and she has been

(15:37):
awarded the prize for her quote intense poetic prose that
confronts historical traumas and exposes the fragility of human life.
She is from South Korea, and notably, she is the
first writer from South Korea ever to win the Nobel
Prize for Literature, so that's very exciting. She's best known internationally.
You probably already knew this for her novel The Vegetarian,

(15:59):
and that if you didn't happen to know what The
Vegetarian was about about a woman who believes she's turning
into a plant. So she's a winner.

Speaker 14 (16:06):
Now the big what vegetarian is?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
I don't know what that is anyway, I understood that
a big one is the Peace price Tomorrow going to
work you through the contender shortly twenty two minutes away
from seven. I did consider turning up on Saturday to
run a special program so I couldn't should have his
prize announcement, but I'm not going to. Now there's a
scrap going on in Southland between Fed Farmers and Fish
and Game. So this court ruling has meant three thousand

(16:30):
farmers in the region will need to apply for resource
consent to farm. So as a result, Fed Farmers wants
their members to remove angler access from their properties. Now
Fit Farmers Southland President Jason Herrick's with us on this
Jason morning to you the.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
Morning might carry you on fine morning very well.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Indeed, this is the fame section seventy and I started
reading about section seventy earlier on this week, and I
wondered where this was going to go how long has
this been bubbling?

Speaker 16 (16:54):
This has been bubbling for a good number of years now,
So the Water and Land plan within environment and has
been ongoing for ten years in an out of environment
courts and finally with the Court of Appeal. And we've
had no end to push back from fishing Game Southland
here on this plan. But it's a lot more than that.

(17:16):
We've had a whole lot of issues from gravel extraction,
to waternal lagoon issues, to just general pushback a case
farming practices full stop. Also the dirty dairy and campaign
that they run a good number of years ago as well.
You know, it's just been an ongoing process with fishing
game pushing back against everything we're doing. And to be honest,

(17:37):
this last one was throw the camel's back really fair
enough too.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
So having said that, I read from it. I think
it was maclay. I may be wrong, but there was
a minister in the government this week you said, don't worry,
we will get Section seventy sorted out. Is that true?
And do you believe them?

Speaker 16 (17:52):
We'll believe it when we see it, right, So we
won't guarantee it until it happens. So we're not going
to you know, well on that now until it actually happens.
We're just absolutely sick of fishing Game South London on
the continuous bowers or pushback against us. So that's why
we've taken this call of action.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Having said that, fishing Game, although they have gone to
court and although they are a pain in the ass,
have in fact one and so that's the process, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (18:21):
Yeah, well that's just on one judge's opinion, and that's
the problem. It's not the democratic when it goes to
the courts, right, it is one person's opinion on the
ideology or the approach that they want to take, whether
they're green or whether they're venturist or whatever. It's all
on one person. It's not actually democratic in our opinion.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
What happened to and this was more generally from the
central government that this hole these people and it's under
fast track or it's under the rama or whatever, that
these people who hold things up by continually forever going
to court, all that's coming to an end. Is that
not true?

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Ah?

Speaker 16 (18:56):
I don't think it is. Because we get given these minorities,
dreamous groups the voice and keep giving them the ammo,
you know, and they're taking taxpayer and players money and
fighting these.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
Things in court.

Speaker 16 (19:09):
Ye see, So this that's a precedent for all in
New Zealand. With the water and Lamp planet. It now
allows all these little extremist groups to now take all
the regional councils around New Zealand to task over their
water and lamp plan locally.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well, I've got to Jason, the business of the weather
and spring and all that sort of stuff. Is there
hope for spring that things are going to dry out
a bit and some grass is going to grow and
all that.

Speaker 16 (19:29):
Oh, look, we're just taking the weather one day at
a time now, where the forecast has been wrong on
so many occasions, you know, so if you look too
far into the future and believe what the weather forecast says,
it can get you down. So you know, we just
wake up every day now and just take it as
it comes.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Good on you, Jason, go, well, have a good week.
I appreciate it very much, Jason Herrick. I don't know
who I'm going to get, but we'll eventually deal with.
I didn't even bore you with the detail on section
seventy's it's what you can do on a farm in
other words, you know, are you allowed to discharge that
amount of effluent into where? Et cetera. And so that's
it's the regional kimi to the pugging thing. It's not dissimilar.

(20:04):
It's generally around the idea of what you can do
on a farm. So it's slope, it's pugging, it's discharge.
It's how the council sees your farm and what you
can and can't do. And so then they go to
court every time they because of course the fish and
game and people that want ye to do any farming
at all.

Speaker 17 (20:20):
Because can I just thank you so much for reading
that on my behalf no worries?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Do you not find that gripping section seventy? How do
you not gone on to that? Eighteen minutes two post
games quickly on the working thirty eight point one hour
started the program on the number of New Zealanders who
actually can be bothered working these days. Thirty seven point
two is what we're down to. Was thirty eight point one,
now it's down to thirty seven point two. Two hundred
and ninety seven people said they work one hundred and
sixty eight hours a week, which is in fact every

(20:46):
hour of the day, which of course is just stupidity,
and that's the problem with the census. But there's a
million of us who work forty hours a week, one
hundred and eighty six thousand new work fifty hours a week,
sixty nine thousand new works sixty hours a week, twenty
thousand who say they work seventy hours week, nine hundred
nine two hundred who work eighty hours a week. So
there are some people still working, thank goodness, including Richard Arnold.

(21:07):
As with us next seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
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Speaker 11 (21:14):
Talks it be.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I'll come back to this, but households in this country
spent more than they earned in the June quarter. This
came out of the numbers yesterday, and we'll talk to
Stephen Joyce about this from a government point of view.
But do you know where we've lost a combined forty
seven billion dollars in net worth, So you are materially
poorer this morning than you might have thought.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Six forty five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance.
Peace of mind for New Zealand business cranks with quite
a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Stage Budd Richard Arnold, how are you doing fine? Min
It's been a number of hours watching this as it's
sort of rolled through a lot of water, a lot.

Speaker 18 (21:47):
Of wind, lot of rain, all of the above here,
but they dodged a Bullet's still pretty bad though. The
unpredictability of these hurricanes is quite something. Tampa's Mayor Jane Castor,
because gave da warnings to people in her low lying
coastal get out of danger areas where you might not
come out alive. What happened to something quite different from
what forecasters feared. Hurricane Milton was a Category three, still

(22:08):
very dangerous when it hit land, but it kind of
wabbled as it came on shore when north of Tampa
for a bit, then south and crossed over land at
a spot called cest Key, and that made all the difference,
she says, not as.

Speaker 13 (22:20):
Bad on the mainland.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
We have not been able to jet out to the
Barrier island.

Speaker 18 (22:26):
So still assisting. However, there has been massive rainfall. This
was a one in a thousand rainfall year rainfall event
for the area eighteen inches four hundred and fifty seven
millimeters overnight, and the winds rapped through at one hundred
and sixty k's and our enough to force the roof
off the dome stadium of the Tampa Bay Raised Baseball team.
As you've been hearing the Tropicana field. It just sent

(22:47):
the metal roof panels flying all over as well as
storm set off at least thirty eight tornadoes, and a
friend of mine set messages saying there were twisters around
where she lives and it was as frightening as well.
I won't use her language. Those tornadoes also took down
a metal structure north of Palm Beach, so right over
on the eastern side of the state, says the sheriff, Tornito.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Tea gripping room here.

Speaker 19 (23:09):
This is the devastating tornado.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
It took out that ten thousand square foot in red
iron building with all of ourbortol cards underneathn Thankfully nobody
was in there at the.

Speaker 18 (23:18):
Time, right in the midst of it, as you hear
in the background there. While back in Tampa, they didn't
get the ocean surge coming in, but there's lots of
water and one hundred and thirty five people have been
rescued from an assisted living facility in the town as
the floods almost drowned them in their beds, says one resident, Teresa.

Speaker 13 (23:36):
It was coming up in my bed, to the edge
of my bed.

Speaker 19 (23:38):
I mean it got on.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
It was terrible.

Speaker 19 (23:41):
Whyter was so cold now scary.

Speaker 18 (23:44):
Those folks were rescued, some in wheelchairs. They've been taken
to Center for Relief.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Elsewhere.

Speaker 18 (23:51):
Sheriff Chad Cronister is taking part in some other rescue
efforts through the flooded streets where homes are wrecked, basically
lost everything.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
We have water four feet up into their first floor.
Here your heart shatters for these people. We did a
bunch of rescues. We took them to a shelter.

Speaker 18 (24:09):
No man, Bob Slicker had his restaurant badly damaged. His
place was hit by the last storm, Hurricane Helena's Well.
He was doing some repair work just as this latest
one hit. He was close to the eye of the storm,
says he has never been in anything so loud and
horrendous in his life. Went on for hours and hours,
he says. Meantime, the police seems to be cooperating. President
Biden has been on the phone. Ron de Santas has

(24:32):
been giving briefings. It is election season and all the
Polley's a prime, but Republican congress Member Marjorie Taylor Green
wins the prize. She tweeted her conspiracy theory the Jews
control the weather, saying quote, yes, they can control the weather,
adding quote it's ridiculous for anyone to lie and say
it can't be done. That led to one of her
fellow Republicans saying she needs a head examined, while one

(24:53):
of the Late night comics quipped if Jews could control
the weather, they would turn down Florida's humidity.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Quick update if you wouldn't mind on the mendis Trinal.

Speaker 18 (25:03):
Yeah, the US justice system did he get it wrong
In one of the most celebrated criminal cases of our time,
talking about the two Menendez brothers found guilty of murdering
their parents many years ago. They've been in jail for
nearly thirty years, serving life terms. Now the Chief LA Prosecutor,
George gascon SA's officials are going to review the evidence.
He says it's the only ethical thing to do. That
includes claims that the father, Jose was sexually abusing both

(25:25):
and continue to attack Ericus Lada's nineteen eighty eight, just
before the murder trials, It also includes testimony from a
former member of the boy band Menudo, saying that the father,
Jose Menendez, who was in the music business, also assaulted him.
A judge in their second trial ruled that they were
barred from using sexual abuses their defense. So hearing set
for next month also comes, i might say, mid controversy

(25:48):
of a new Netflix film about the Brothers which suggests
they were gay. Even there's the Brothers dispute that.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, have a good week and I appreciate it very much.
And that's before you get to the involvement of Kim Kardashi.
And of course I haven't got around to the Netflix
sing mister McMahon. And by the ways, what I'm recommending
for this Friday morning if you want something to watch
over the weekend apart from Bathhurst, that's on that's to
be discovered on Netflix. Ten Away from Seven.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover, The Line.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
News talksb Bolly, Mike, mister McMahon was great. So you
watched WWE back in the day, was WWF of course
who's your favorite? Steve Austin was mine? Let me come
back to that because I was a big wrestling fan.
But the program's very good. But I'll give you more
details shortly. Harris and the campaign in the US. This
is CNN writing yesterday, and I emphasized the CNN. But
because they're pro Harris, listen to what they say. Democrats

(26:34):
are increasingly anxious over Harris's fate. There is a growing
sense that her campaign is stuck in the mud as
familiar debates crop up over where and how to deploy
precious resources. Her advisors often publicly dismiss the poles, but
they know the poles are tight. They can't quite work out.
This article's inferring whereabouts to target voters? Do they want

(26:56):
to mobilize men, men of color? Others look at his
Hispanic voters. Worries loom about African or Arab Americans, Younger
voters angry about the US policy in Israel and Gaza
as it spreads into Lebanon. So the nervous energy also
stems from the simple fact of the racist slim margins.
Harris's camp consider the seven most competitive battleground states to

(27:16):
be tied or within the margin of error. And for
all the talk about there being multiple pathways to two
seventy through the so called blue wall or the sun belt.
No path currently feels guaranteed. So she's a tight one
five away from seven.

Speaker 19 (27:33):
Well, the inns are the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
It's the fiz with business favor take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
And you know of CNNA saying that about Harris, it's
super tight. More, why would misery around work? How we
started the show with these census figures how many hours
we work? Well, this morning we got a new independent
bit of research from Robert Half. They found that eighty
one percent of us feel burnt out at work, but
only twenty four percent to tell the manager about it.
And of those who do tell the manager, the manager
or twenty four percent of them, suggests time off, nineteen

(28:04):
percent delegates some responsibilities to other team members, and eighteen
percent helped them to prioritize projects. And then there's the
ten percent who say their managers have essentially told them
to suck it up. So then we get to gen
X who feel the most burnt out. That's a eighty
nine percent. Virtually every gen X you're going to run
into today feels burnt out. And you just go up
to a GenEx today say feel better, Oh sy burnt

(28:24):
out jen Z eighty six percent. Millennials I'm so burnt
out seventy nine percent, the good old boomer sixty nine percent.
Boomer gets on with it. That's the motto for the boomer.
Tell you what I'm getting on with it? Why we
burnt out? Fifty nine percent heavy work like, oh, got
too much today? So does the thirty one percent. Insufficient

(28:47):
number of staff twenty nine percent because it's the commute, ah,
so hard to get word twenty two percent. Poor communication
support from managers. They're busy whining to the manager a
moment ago. Can't have it both ways twenty one percent.
Toxic culture at work. Far by far the biggest number, though,

(29:07):
is the seventy five percent who admit to being a
soft cock whiner with no aspiration to better themselves.

Speaker 14 (29:16):
It's always a hard one to check that box, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I might have made it last bit up Stephen Joyce
on the numbers. Here's the interesting part. They're brought in
more money, so for all of the it looks a
bit bad. They actually brought in more money, but then
they spent more than they brought in. Now here's the
problem with that. Reputationally conservative governments are supposed to be
good with the economy, so how come they're bringing in

(29:40):
more and yet spending even more Again, that's a Labour
Party trek. Grant Dalton on the America's Cup and whether
we're gonna win that or not, determidating do the business
after eight o'clock as well, news.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Next, the newspakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like my costing breakfast with a vetat in Communities, Life
Your Way News.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Togs'd seven past seven. So to the state of the
old economy and despite the so called green shoots and
brighter days ahead, yesterday's Crown Account numbers remind us it's
all still a mess. The deficit blew out to twelve
point nine billion. They thought it was going to be eleven.
This is the year to June Health New Zealand and
a see your major issues. Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce's
with us.

Speaker 7 (30:19):
Good morning, wanning, Mike, how are you very well?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Thank you? Revenues up, but then so are expenses. Is
that a reputational issue potentially for a conservative government?

Speaker 7 (30:28):
Nah, I don't think so at the stage. It would
be if it continued for a long time. You know,
for a couple another couple of years, we just got
to be thankful. I think that the revenue did go up,
because I think the expectation is that the revenue would drop,
and indeed the tax take around companies and individuals dropped.

(30:49):
The quirk of it was with interest rates going up,
people that paid tax on their interest paid more, obviously,
and so that pushed the revenue up on that side.
But it's still a pretty pretty bleak picture. And the
challenge for the government will be is that won't continue.
The interest won't keep rising now because interest rates have

(31:09):
now turned yep, so that contribution to revenue increases won't happen.
So once again it comes back to a story of
needing growth to boost that tax take. Otherwise we'll be
chasing our tail downwards for a while yet, which is
the normal method. By the way, you come out of
a recession. Everybody else will feel better before the government
books look better, and we had that. We had that

(31:32):
in twenty nine to twelve. You know, poor Bill was
constantly reporting back that despite improvements in the general economy,
that it was taking time to turn the fiscal books around.
And that's just the right words.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
The surplus by twenty eight. Is that still real?

Speaker 7 (31:48):
Well, it could be, but it's going to depend. It's
going to depend a lo on growth. I mean, people
forget we've paid a massive price. I mean, congratulations, my
inflation has been beaten. And in the period post COVID,
we've doubled the country's net debt, we've flattened the economy.
But by god, we've got inflation under control. So you know,

(32:09):
we should celebrate ironically that. But it's a it's a
big drive back from here.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And the ACC questions and the health questions, are they
answerable questions or an ACC in particular, have we got
something to be worried about a CCS.

Speaker 7 (32:25):
It's sort of classic problem. I think that the that
the entitlements, if you like, or the or the payouts
increased during the labor government, they soften the criteria that
always puts a ACC ACC's footing worse. And what generally
comes in and we had to do the same thing
as your government comes in and has to tighten the

(32:46):
criteria and put up the ACC levies to get the
books back and balance. Unfortunately, that's the cycle that occurs
on the health side. Well, with you begin it's it's
a proof that Health News Island is not a solution.
It's just another way of counting the beans and and

(33:06):
and it's it's a it's a new bureaucracy over the
over the other bureaucracy, and there's some real work to
be done to improve productivity. It's not about reducing health spending,
which you know some of the political critics get into,
no government reduces health spending. It's just about how effective
that spending is going to be. And we yet to

(33:27):
see anything out of this new system which which will
deliver that productivity.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
All that Nicholas sheckled herself with, does she asked for
trouble on that? Given it's already spent and we're not
even into next year.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
It's going to be very tough. And that's why you're
seeing the sorts of decisions we're seeing. And I heard
the CTU guys saying that it's terrible. You know, we
shouldn't have cut the fairies. I shouldn't cut you know,
shouldn't have re recalculated the Needen Hospital and everything like that.
But there's a reason for that, and that's because you've
doubled debt in six years and now you running a

(34:00):
deficit of twelve point nine billion. The answer to his
question is, well, you should have got your mate Grant
to be under much greater control three or four years ago,
and maybe we wouldn't be having to make these sorts
of decisions now the country is having to make. That's tough,
and I think it's going to be hard for it
to do that number next year. But actually what's the alternative?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Good question? Well, I'm nice to catch up with you,
Stephen Joyce's former finance minister. Eleven past seven Husky Wellington
City Council's planned to sell a report shares that's been
voted down. They were going to do it now they're not.
The Council of Toney rendalls with us on this tiny morning.
Good morning, your journey to the boat. You're a bit
here and there, won't you.

Speaker 20 (34:36):
Well, I was one of the counselors that initially supported
selling the shares, but we already have two andred and
seventy two million dollars of borroing capability and we only
agree to support the shares if they kept this emergency funding.
But in fact, when we saw that the long term
plan was going to spend this money, essentially selling shares

(34:56):
to fund projects. We withdrew our support and signed the
notice of motion.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
How much bad will ill will is there now as
a result of this As an exercise within the council,
this is.

Speaker 20 (35:10):
This has been a very rough exercise for everybody. And yeah,
there's there's relations that's been broken and some things have
been said that are going to be difficult to unsay,
but we've made a democratic decision in the in the
council has to move on.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Does it feel as around the table as dysfunctional as
it looks from out here?

Speaker 20 (35:34):
Sometimes it does, especially like at the meeting we had yesterday,
But a lot of time it doesn't. And the Council
on other areas is actually working pretty well together, especially
on the big issue, which is the water.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well that's encourage it. What about this Bordeaux Bakery Thorndon
Key what was the company that was moving yesterday? Kunovic?
They're out as well, I mean, and that looks like
a shambles as well.

Speaker 15 (35:58):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Does the council get this all?

Speaker 13 (36:00):
Not?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Really?

Speaker 20 (36:03):
The council has still got to change track. We've got
all councilor's got a very angry letter from the owner
and He said that one of his closing thoughts was
that as Wellington is a city built on the hard
work of its people and its businesses, you as a
council should service that reality, not work against it.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
A very good line.

Speaker 20 (36:27):
Yeah, and I've got to say too, I mean, people
who know Wellington, I have to say Wellington is in
deep trouble if an iconic, if a somewhat expensive French
bakery cannot survive in the CBD.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Couldn't agree more. Yeah, good on your Tony, go well
with it. God bless you doing God's work as a
counselor in the mighty Capital. The reference was Kunovic. Yeah, Thornton, Kiev.
You haven't followed Krunovic. They're out. They just cannot do business.
Reconstruction of the roads continued, The cones doubled. Parking disappeared,
where clients coming and saying they can't get a car park.
People have others waiting in the cars while they come

(37:03):
in trades. People can't get a park. The whole thing's
just a cluster. Well that's Wellington for you. Let's one.
I'm as bad as Florida. We'll go there. Shortly fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
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Speaker 3 (37:19):
It'd be Grandalton out of Barcelona for you very shortly
seventeen past seven. So was Milton the storm of the century.
If you didn't leave Tampa, would you die? Was it
as bad as they said it would be in Tampa?
David aspect, whether it's day morning to you.

Speaker 19 (37:31):
Either, good morning?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (37:34):
You know, the it depends on where you live. If
you would live on and we are just of course
south of Tampa Fort Myers, that area of Florida, if
you would have been on one of the Barrier islands,
chances are you would not have survived. And it's so
unknown whether everyone even evacuated all of the Barrier islands.

(37:58):
Some of them they haven't even gotten too yet. So
you know, a lot of the damage remains to be seen,
but we are seeing a lot of it. We've had
helicopters up, we've had our drones up, and there is
a lot of coastal damage. We've been talking to businesses
who say they can't do this anymore. So it really,

(38:18):
I guess depends on just where you are.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
It's one of the great questions. I didn't ask it
yesterday because I didn't want to see them insensitive. But Florida,
I mean, this is not new for you guys. Why
do people live in Florida. Does the sun and the
margaritas outweigh the occasional you know, Helene, come Milton.

Speaker 22 (38:37):
Well, okay, I can tell you.

Speaker 21 (38:38):
I grew up in the north part of the United States,
near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, so I was used to blizzards. I
moved here because I was tired of the cold weather.
And I think many people migrate from the North to
the South because they're tired of the cold weather and
the blizzards. And then you get down here and you
start dealing with hurricanes and it's a whole different beast.

(39:00):
And again I'm talking to people and I'm seeing posts
on social media from people who say they may just
be done with Florida.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Now.

Speaker 21 (39:10):
The storms, it seems have gotten worse, They've gotten more,
they're more happening more often. So, I mean, we do
live here for the sunshine in the warm weather year round,
but there's a price to be paid for living in uh,
you know, in paradise.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And I take it it's white too early to get
a number on damage and the power and all of
that sort of stuff. You're still just starting to mop up.

Speaker 21 (39:32):
Yes, you know, I think God had minimal damage at
my home. I was without power. They got that restored.
The one good thing I will say is they were
prepared for this. I believe both the federal and state
government were very well prepared for this. You know, they
had they had electrical crews from around the country here

(39:54):
set up and ready to go the minute it was
safe to get out there. I was without power all night,
but it was restored this morning, and I was thankful.
And Hurricane Ian I was without power for.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
A week, all right, mate, Well go well, we've appreciated
your coverage over the last couple of days. David Lais,
who is a Tampa Bay based reporter. I was watching
Anderson Cooper, who God bless and went into the middle
of it yesterday, and at the start of it, about
one o'clock, I can't remember, I was in and out.
At the start of it, he looked like he was
going to drown, and yet remarkably, an hour and a
half later, not only wasn't he drowned, his hair had dried.

(40:27):
And I thought, that's a weird old business, and then
a reporter was holding up a fan blade that had
fallen off a ceiling, and I thought, if you're holding
up a fan blade, it's probably not the worst thing
Florida has ever seen.

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at UK Labor Party headquarters. Nobel Prize is eight. I
mean they can't. I mean they get such scant cover,
and in a world that has never been more desperate,
I would argue for brilliance and individuality and the celebrations
of the human spirit and achievement. Home ownership eight surely
the hero number out of the census. More of us
own a home. That's not what the rhetoric will tell you,

(42:15):
speak of which the cash rate seven. We could, and
we have waxfully rittle about the mess this has been
and is, but there is still no taking away from
the fact that fifty points is the beginning of the
return of better days. The Fed seven That actually is
how it should have been done. No recession, no panic,
minimum carnage. Jimmy Spittle seven. Good guy, great athlete and

(42:36):
a very big contribution to the America's Cup, quite possibly
leaving a bit too soon. First Track six. Yes, it
is only a list at this stage, but the intent
is important. If this plays an outsized role in getting
the joint humming again, it'll be a good idea well received.
Kirstarmer three. Have you ever seen a politician take a
victory the size of his and cock it up quite

(42:57):
so quickly? Samsung my corporate hero of the week. Now
if you missed it, look up the letter of apology.
If more big names acted with that level of honor,
the world would be a much, much, much better place.
Ships one this week with issues. I mean one admittedly
more serious than the other. But what is it with
this country in ships? Speaking of aquatics? The America's Cup sex?

(43:21):
I might be it's sex, Glenn. I might be wrong,
you can you never can tell, but this could actually
be a contest. The Brits have improved out of sight
between the money of Radcliffe in the experience of Angeley,
it might well be quite the show and the last
one more sex, Sex just doesn't want to do it.
Car sales Sex. After a meaga year, this week's stat

(43:43):
show sales are up. More green shoots. I would have
thought school holidays Sex almost over well done. All the
grandparents who did heavy lifting of grandkids who on day
one seemed cute has but by day seven were ungrateful
little snots. That's the week copies on the website and
every all black was awarded to commerative colored lamonited version
of us to take with them on the Northern Tulac.

(44:05):
Boden still handing out the warnings on Milton.

Speaker 23 (44:08):
There's still very dangerous conditions in the States and people
should wait to be given all clear by their leaders
before they go out. We know from previous hurricanes that
it's often the case, and more lives are lost Today's
following the storm than actually during the storm itself.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Come and then there's sort of a few too many
dumb questions about the response.

Speaker 14 (44:29):
Mister president, have you.

Speaker 17 (44:30):
Spoken with President Trump at all?

Speaker 23 (44:33):
Are you kidding me? Mister President Trump? Former President Trump,
get a life man, help these people.

Speaker 10 (44:43):
You said you were going to hold this accountable public
goal overcount.

Speaker 11 (44:49):
You better impress whole over count.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Because you know the truth there we got. I had
some woods on numbers.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
Three million people are without power.

Speaker 23 (44:57):
Had more than forty million power line workers have come
from around the country, from the Canada to Florida.

Speaker 11 (45:03):
Joe, true store of power across.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
They have not, No, they haven't. There aren't forty million
power workers. By the way, three million Is that a lot? Yes,
it is how many people live in Florida twenty three
so that puts it into a certain level of perspective.
Grant Dalton is next the breakfast.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Show You Can Trust, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the
range Rover villa designed to intrigue and use togs.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
That'd be the.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Feedback on this. Mike, thanks for the heads up yesterday
about Billy Joel's one hundredth We watched last night. It
was great. He's now back on the old Spotify list.
Well done, Mike. Big weekend and motorsport this weekend. I
don't know about you, but I don't think I'll be
getting a lot done. Got Shane racing in the NASCAR,
got Bathhurst to watch a little bit of Bathhurst yesterday,
as far as the practice days are concerned. By the way,
speaking of motor racing, if you're into it, Will Buxton

(45:49):
out of drive to survive fame, among other things, is
with us on the program next week twenty three minutes
away from eight. It's weeking of what generally we have
it last arrived at the real deal. The America's Cup
has a go Team New Zealand versus Anos early Sunday
morning our time. It's the first time in sixty years,
by the way, a British offer has been challenging for
the Cup and self Team New Zealand Grant Falton back

(46:09):
on this morning.

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Good morning, make so pre.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Regatta, if you believed all the hype it was going
to be you and Lunar Rossa. What did Aenios do well?

Speaker 24 (46:18):
Pre regatta hype included us. Actually, we pretty much expected
it would be Lunar Roster as well, and until the
last race, I still thought it was probably going to
be Lunar Rossa. I think actually LUNARROSI didn't sail very well.
I mean it starts looked a bit not very good
and when they broke their traveler earlier on in the regatta,

(46:41):
I think they put some structural restraints on the boat
so that they couldn't sheet on in that amount of
breeze quite as much as they would normally. Now that's
just our feeling for it, so that impaired this speed
a little bit. But to be fair to any of
us band through massively through through the rounds and I
that too, first of all the quality of the people,

(47:03):
but also to the connection with Messi's Formula one team
and their ability to diagnose data and make improvement by
from the data.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
So you had been able to see on a screen
on a bit of paper whatever them improving, and where
they've improved, and probably how they've improved.

Speaker 24 (47:22):
Well, we've only got the data from when they race,
and of course unless you've got your own data in
the same time, you've really got no judge. Now we
have a little bit of that, but not a lot,
and we can see that the boats are pretty equal,
and that's no surprise really at this level. You know,
you'd expect the boats, particularly in the second generation of

(47:44):
the at seventy fives, to be quite close.

Speaker 7 (47:48):
But we've really only.

Speaker 24 (47:49):
Seen them in one condition, in their sort of fast form,
which is in windy conditions. And we're headed into the weekend.
Now back to no more normal, which is like conditions,
and to be fair to Lunar Rossa, there both looked
like it was set up for the light conditions. You know,
you don't want to be halfway house because you sort
of need a fictional foul and they ended up with
really windy conditions, so they're a bit unlucky in that

(48:11):
way too.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Okay, So how much window is there for variability in
conditions on any given day.

Speaker 24 (48:19):
Not a lot, because you know, really the night before,
I mean there's one or two knots, But if it's
going to be misstrou through the Gulf of Lyon or
in the area, then you know it's going to be windy.
And you know that two or three days before, and
we know that there's a mistral that has just left
the area basically over the last twenty four hours, and

(48:40):
now we're going into a lighter period. We're also quite
late in the year, being October, so it's autumn and
that tends to stop the sea breeze coming in very
strong because the land doesn't heat up as much.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Aniosa's talk of being shagged worn out. A lot of
racing taking a lot out of us. Is that real
or is that sort of hype?

Speaker 24 (49:04):
Well, it'd be easy to say it's tight, but they
did have a hell of a series and they will
have taken a little bit out of them. I guess,
having been in this position that position ourselves, you've got
to put the Louis Verton covers greater than it is
to win it behind you pretty quickly. And remember that's
only just a stepping stone along the way. And I

(49:25):
think we were guilty in two thousand and seven of
winning the Louis Vuitton kind of certain for me on
a first try, and then really we peek through the
Louis Vauton. So although they're very conscious of that and
it's very obvious thing, it is quite hard to get
up again. Now you look at the flip side of
that point. We haven't raced for the much, so it's

(49:47):
quite hard for us to get up as well. But
I think they will be tired.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yes, So if you had that was where I was leading.
If you had to choose between having raced and being
tired versus being fresh and not having raced, where would.

Speaker 24 (49:59):
You the beat race and being tired? And you know,
race and ninety you're tied and rotating your guys enough
to make sure that you know you're still ready for
the Cup. I mean, it's definitely an advantage with racing,
because you racing. Racing, training is training. But the flip
side of that is that we get to develop our
boat and we have a different boat, marginally different boat

(50:21):
than we had in around Robins that we won. We
most definitely have a faster boat than we had, I
think more significantly from the way I see it is
that it was and it needs to be. This is
a much improved scene that defended the Cup in twenty
twenty one, a significantly better team than won the Cup

(50:42):
in twenty twenty one on Auckland, and we'll, you know,
let's wait and see how that goes for us come Saturday.
But we'll need to be sharp too because these in
their tails are up and you know they're going to
be hard to be with.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
What level of confidence do you go in.

Speaker 24 (50:57):
Kricky Dex That's a tough question. I look, I'm confident
in the work that we've done. We're as well prepared
as we can be. We're comfortable with the boat. I
think there's a yachting and now it's up to the
sailors right as a sailing team, we are infinitely better
than we were in Auckland. So my confidence in our

(51:17):
where we are is as high as it can be.
Whether that translates into actually been quicker than any us
on the water, I really don't know yet. We'll find
out soon enough.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I reckon you will go well, we're on your side
and good use of the term criky Dicks. Grant Dalton
out of Barcelona this morning seventeen Too.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Cool the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 3 (51:42):
It be Mike, kriky Dix is incorrect, never plural. I reckon,
it's open to interpretation. I reckon if you want to
say criky dicks, what if he spells at Dix, Well,
that could be true. Great interview, Mike, what a champion.
Love hearing from keywus at the top of their game.
I agree, Which brings us to tomorrow's announcement for the
Peace Price. Here are the favorites. It's a five person

(52:02):
committee by the way, if you don't follow the Peace Prize,
made up of the Minister of Education from They're all Norwegians.
Made up of the Minister of Education, politicians, scholars, among others.
And you can only be nominated and this might be
part of the problem by a select group of individuals.
You need to be a cabinet member, a head of state,
a university professor, or a previous Nobel Prize winner. One

(52:23):
of the top contenders is the OSSEE, the Office for
Democratic Institutions and Human Rights. They work to promote democratic
elections across Europe, the Caucuses, Central Asia, and North America.
I write them off for being boring. Don't want to
sound don't want to sound flippant, but I'm just saying
that that's not really something.

Speaker 14 (52:40):
Better, isn't that what pieces though?

Speaker 3 (52:43):
That's exactly exactly well. Sudan's emergency response rooms, now this
is interesting. They're volunteers, they've started these emergency response rooms
are basic things like repairing power lines, providing medical care, food,
water protection for people. Not bad, but not a winner.
I don't think the International Court of Justice. Give me

(53:05):
a break. The International Court of Justice, what do they do?
Tell me how many people they've rounded up and how
many people are in jail because of the International Court
of Justice. The un r WA. Now you'll immediately say
to yourself, hmm, where do I know that name from? Well,
the reason you know that name was in January, the

(53:28):
accusation was made that it was that very agency that
were involved in the October seven attack against the Israelis
or members of that group, so much so that a
large number of countries, including ours, suspended fundings. So how
you get that sort of reputation then bounce back to
when the Nobel Peace Prize is beyond me, So that's
not going to happen. Contend to number five UNESCO and

(53:50):
the Council of Europe. So UNESCO has been around forever.
I would argue they've done nothing now that they haven't
done previously. Therefore, what's the point Sweat Lana see a
Naskaya who is sweat Lana. She's the Belarusian politician who's
currently living in exile. She's the one who took on
Lukashenko for the presidency in Belarus back in twenty twenty,

(54:12):
so she's seen there's a bit of a hero, continues
to be a hero. If you live in exile, you're
bound to be a hero, and there'll be a lot
of people who think you're a cool person. Wouldn't rule
her out. Ilham Toti ten year anniversary. Il Ham's been
detained by the Chinese because he advocates on behalf of
the Vegas, and we all know what the Chinese think

(54:36):
of the veigis wouldn't rule him out either. Number nine
Greta Thunberg again forget it, which brings me to number six.
And I was holding off number six until last because
his name is Vladimir Selenski. And surely if there's ever

(54:57):
been a year in which you've got a showIn of
shoe ruins Zelensky, is it so short money on Zelenski,
followed by Svetlana, followed by Ilham. And in my book,
although they've done it differently previously, I would adhere if
I was Norwegian, and therefore on the committee I would

(55:19):
always give it to an individual as opposed to a group.

Speaker 14 (55:22):
So we didn't get any university professors on there.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
There wasn't it. There wasn't a single university professor this year.
I think the one I think, the one to be fair,
I think the one that Radio New Zealand rang yesterday
and got them to say we should be working less
is bound to be a contender. For next year though,
because that's good work, isn't it? Ten away from it?

Speaker 19 (55:43):
The my costing breakfast with.

Speaker 11 (55:46):
Us dogs v.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Well and Mike.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Do you recycle all the paper you screw up on air?
It's funny you should ask. That's a very good question.
I do what I take most of it home, and
I also at home make my own glue. And what
I do with the paper is that I then do
paper mashe sculptures. And if you've never done that, they're
they're quite the thing, and it takes a while to
get good at it. I'm really good at it now.

(56:09):
Some of my early work I've kept at home, but
a lot of it I sell off now for quite
considerable some some of them I go on to paint,
and some of them I go on to simply put
some polyurethane over the edge. And they're outdoor features that
can withstand wind.

Speaker 14 (56:24):
And the best one do you reckon?

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (56:26):
I think?

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I think Owed to Life, which was a big piece
of work, and I have it in the in the
country and it greets you as you enter the property.
But it's eighteen feet tall and it was big, so
anchoring it was a problem and it weighs quite a lot.
But it's also aged beautifully.

Speaker 14 (56:44):
But yeah, how many mark the weeks do you reckon
win into that?

Speaker 3 (56:47):
I didn't count. It's a good question because that's the
other thing I've got to mark the week's sculpture. And
it's called to the marking of the week, and that's
that's a square one. It's controversial. A lot of people
have looked at that and gone, what the hell's that?
And I've gone, well, it's to the marking of the week,
and they go, is that where they go?

Speaker 17 (57:06):
It's a bit like that exhibit they threw away by
mistake the other day, isn't it. That's right, yes, because
sometimes people misunderstand exactly what these things are.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
So a lot of people, a lot of people think
I just you know, say stuff, screw it up and
go home, because I'm superficial and shallow.

Speaker 25 (57:21):
Not so.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I'm an artist. Mike, thanks for recommending Billy Joel at
Madison Square Garden yesterday. We watched it last night and
loved it. Piano man at the end, wasn't it just?
I don't want to bang on about this, but it's
available to everyone. Go look it up. It's brilliant. When
he comes to the end, and of course that's really
I suppose people will vary, but it's really the song
you've got to hear. And at the end, he's been

(57:44):
going for an hour and a half and then he
suddenly reaches and grabs the harmonica, and it's just at
that moment you know what's going to happen next, and
it is phenomenal. And normally I'm very very much against
and this is why reading Luke Colmbs, who's coming in January,
I'm very much against people singing songs while you're at

(58:05):
a concert. I don't want to hear you. I'm not
interested in paying hundreds of dollars to go along and
see Brian and Toya, who are probably pissed singing songs
out of tune and out of time. If you want
to do that, do it at home. Don't bother me
with your dumb singalongs. But in Madison Square Garden, the

(58:27):
it just you got to see it.

Speaker 11 (58:28):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
It's so moving and you probably won't be surprised to
hear this. I almost cried. And that's what you find
with artists is they're emotional people. They're constantly on eage
and I'm one of those people. As for my favorite wrestler,
I reckon mark Lewin. I think mark Lewin because from

(58:51):
an earlier text, yours was stone cold Steve Austin, and
I understand that. But I think mine was mark Lewin
because mark Lewin had the sleeper hoole, and of all
the holds, of all the things they did, it was
either that of King Curtis, but King Curtis was too
ugly to be real. But I think mark Lewin had
the sleeperhole. The ability to get behind somebody, grab them

(59:14):
and put them to sleep is a skill not to
be underestimated. So I like mark Lewin.

Speaker 14 (59:20):
You put me to sleep a few times.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
And you didn't even know what was happening, because you've
got until you woke up and thought what happened there?

Speaker 19 (59:27):
You should.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
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Speaker 3 (59:52):
Should step.

Speaker 13 (59:56):
From this clove.

Speaker 21 (01:00:01):
Take to me day.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
You get a lovely voice, hasn't she? And we enjoyed.
I'm assuming this is the album that we talked to
her about the album, or was that just I can't
remember why we had her on Ellison Moyer. Yeah, so
it was about the old and key it was. She
was delightful and I'd never interviewed her before, and she's
been away from music for years and leads a very
quiet sort of life. And she went back to university

(01:00:26):
and got a fine arts degree and then she has
decided why not do some music?

Speaker 22 (01:00:31):
And so this is it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Jane Katie and I were saying the other day. Funnily enough,
this was going back to the Billie Joelsting thing, and
I would apply her to this is they don't make
them like they used to. All of these So much
new music these days. There are obvious exceptions, but so
much music these days that from people you know full
well as you listen to them, they're never going to

(01:00:56):
be around for another thirteen years, or twenty years or
thirty years of what he is more clearly as one.

Speaker 19 (01:01:01):
And there are.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
And I didn't have time to count how many minutes
worth of music there because I've been waylaid outside with
the boss. And that's another story. In itself. But I'm
guessing there's fifty three minutes there. It sounds like a
fifty three minute. It's a good value eighteen track fifty
three minute. Kate Hawksby's with us along with Tim Wilson.
Good morning, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 22 (01:01:30):
Good morning.

Speaker 26 (01:01:30):
How many people do you reckon fell for your paper
mache art story?

Speaker 19 (01:01:34):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 22 (01:01:36):
Was that why the boss was talking to you?

Speaker 19 (01:01:38):
Stop mating?

Speaker 14 (01:01:39):
See how many people don't understand art?

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
I've done understand art?

Speaker 19 (01:01:42):
Do they?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
It's just like everyone's a critic and a skeptic.

Speaker 22 (01:01:45):
It's like what we know for a fact is that
absolutely none of that was true.

Speaker 19 (01:01:50):
Absolutely no, that was true. But here's the deal.

Speaker 25 (01:01:52):
The AI Hosking will be able to create beautiful paper mash.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Did you read that? But you'd be a listener reader?
You read the article and the listener about me?

Speaker 22 (01:02:02):
No.

Speaker 19 (01:02:02):
I was glad you read it because I don't have
the paywall, so thanks a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Is there a paywall on the listener?

Speaker 11 (01:02:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Oh my god? Who thought of that? I mean, who
would pay money for the listeners?

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
I get?

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I mean that do they understand that a paywall is
on a supply demand basis? And you need a demand.

Speaker 19 (01:02:25):
Here's the deal I found.

Speaker 25 (01:02:26):
I found listeners up because me and the boys tramped
the pinnacles during your holiday and and at the hut
at the top of the pinnacles there are listeners. There
are new listeners, so they I'll tell you who buys
the listeners. It's trampers.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Trampers read the listener.

Speaker 22 (01:02:43):
I think that that actually makes sense to me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
That that that that that trampers drink gum boot tea.
Read the listener, and read the listener like across and
listen to tune into see Mulligan for a laugh. Yeah,
actually speaking about it, this.

Speaker 19 (01:03:04):
Is a funny guy.

Speaker 25 (01:03:05):
But they probably they probably they still don't know that
Jeanette fit Simons has left the Green Party.

Speaker 19 (01:03:10):
Then they keep voting.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Well, that might be why they're tramping. They're looking for it. Now,
speaking of the Afternoon Show, am I and I'm making
this up as they go along. But here's my problem
for the week. Do the Afternoon Show the new Afternoon Show?
Do they operate? And hear I knew it, so the first.

Speaker 19 (01:03:26):
They're sitting in your chair? They would I heard them
joking about sitting in your chair.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Yeah, well that's going to change.

Speaker 7 (01:03:32):
So first.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
First clue they left. First clue was there's a separate screen.
There's a new screen, So I thought, hold on, maybe
they are in here. So that was fine. I don't
mind because I share, because I'm not only a client sharing.

Speaker 22 (01:03:48):
That's why Jason wasn't talking to you. You want your
just for you, because I mean, they really shouldn't be
in there, should they Because they're pigs.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
I'm just going to call it right now. They are
disco messy little pigs. So the only thing I haven't
gotten to the bottom of is one of them sits
literally where I do, and the other person sits on
the other side. Now the person here's the thing, and
as the person who cleans up in the studio at
first thing in the morning with my dyson, the person
the one on the other side is the big pig.

(01:04:20):
And I don't know how much food they consume and
where they get it from, but very little of it
goes in their mouth, and most of it ends up
on the floor. And the stuff they put in the
rubbish pin is sticky and it smells, and the whole
thing just reeks of disaster. Now I'm going as the best.

Speaker 19 (01:04:41):
MIC's minute you've done all week fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I'm going to guess, because I'm going to guess which
one of the two it is. Because I saw I
saw the other day for the first time Tyler. I
saw a photo of him for the first time the
other day. No, Tyler, but I saw a photo of
him the other day, and it was that classic thing
where he looks nothing like I assumed he did.

Speaker 22 (01:05:07):
That's very radio, isn't it very very radio?

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
But I have met Matt. And if ever you've seen
a photo of Matt or met Matt, and you look
at the photo of Tyler and then have met Matt,
and then you ask the question, which low rent is
going to leave most of their lunch on the floor.
I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's Heith. Am I right? Or
Am I right?

Speaker 22 (01:05:31):
I think you're I think you're probably I'd say you're
probably being on.

Speaker 19 (01:05:35):
I'm going to triangulate this, Yeah, i'd say so. I
don't want to throw Met under a bus, but probably him.

Speaker 26 (01:05:41):
I mean, I don't know Tyler either, but I imagine
Tyler is in your chair.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Tyler seems Tyler seems a shade repressed. But that's that's
coming from a person who doesn't know him. But certainly soon.

Speaker 19 (01:05:54):
Dr Hoskin is in the house, like quietly off air.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Certainly it's just you know me, everything had just comes
to my mind. He strikes me as a person who
doesn't drop his sandwiches, whereas whereas Matt Matt strikes me
as just a complete wreck and so all he's moving.

Speaker 25 (01:06:08):
Matt Matt strikes me as a person who throws sandwiches
across the room just for fun.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I reckon, that's true. And the question is, and
we need to take a break. What am I going
to do about it? Because it's it's unacceptable More in
a moment. Thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
What I've just they've just their producer. Who's their producer?
It is Andrew. Andrew's just texted and they've got a
special lunch organized for today, the whole lunch. They are
the newbies. They've been here for three and a half minutes.

Speaker 25 (01:06:54):
For God's sake, Hey, look, I just I had a
reflection during during the break, which is that you might
be judging a book by its cover. So Tyler might
be a peer repressed, well groomed and self controlled, but
in the studio maybe maybe saying comes out it may.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Be a crazy guy. Well it sees here. Definitely this
must have come up in the program, because Sue texts
me it's definitely isn't Tyler that leaves a mess? If
you can wash his towels every day? He's pretty banantic
having said that I wash my towels every day.

Speaker 22 (01:07:23):
Yeah, but also you go out, you wash your tails
every day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I watch my tails every day, and.

Speaker 26 (01:07:28):
You eat in the control room and the news and
in the breaks, which is maybe what they should be
doing instead.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Of good God, one caddie, you should be in management here.
I don't know why management who is here, who is
paid to do a job, don't implement a few basic
structures like leave the studio and go to the lunch
room each your.

Speaker 19 (01:07:45):
Like which which towels? You mean you wash your bath
towels every day?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Well, no details are constantly because I'm constantly in the kitchen.
The amount of baking I do on a daily basis
at the moment, but yes, my, my bathe.

Speaker 22 (01:07:59):
Every it's all the showering and saunering. He burns through
a lot of towels.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
How were your school holidays, by the way, Tim, apart
from the pinnacles.

Speaker 19 (01:08:08):
They were great.

Speaker 25 (01:08:09):
Actually, what we what we did this week was we
want to get the boys working, So we made up
little pamphlets offering their services as dog walkers and lawn waterers,
which probably not so good given the rain.

Speaker 19 (01:08:22):
And we wandered around the neighborhood distributing those.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
In your style, and the people come back with offers.

Speaker 19 (01:08:29):
Nothing yet.

Speaker 25 (01:08:30):
But I got to tell you, you're talking about metrics,
talking about the ocr The letterboxes in our city are
a disgrace, filled to brim, they got soggy, you know,
the soggy local rag poking out of it. No one's
moved letter box are a metric.

Speaker 19 (01:08:45):
We're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
What's the percentage of letterboxes that have no flyers? Please?

Speaker 19 (01:08:52):
It's the phrases no junk mail.

Speaker 25 (01:08:54):
I interpreted that as actual mail, a pamphlet from a
young man wanting to make something of himself. I thought
I'll just bypass that a high percentage.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Absolutely, were we katie walking as we do hand in
hand with young Lewis up the street and we looked
up the driveway to a house that we have have coveted,
and up the driveway on the house we have coveted
was a young man who was water blasting as driveway?
Am I correct? And am I correct?

Speaker 22 (01:09:24):
Yeah? You see quite a lot of that.

Speaker 26 (01:09:25):
Maybe it's I don't know, I think there are some
industrious young people out there, especially bear in mind at
school holidays.

Speaker 11 (01:09:31):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
And what did I turn and say to you, apart
from along the lines of was it or was it not?
Along the lines of where did we go so badly
wrong in our parenting?

Speaker 22 (01:09:39):
Yeah, that's right. You said, none of our kids have
water blasted in the driveway exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
And further, I said, if we'd asked any of our
kids to water blast the driveway, you know what would
have happened, And what would have happened is no water blasting.
And you are as a beacon of hope for us all.

Speaker 25 (01:09:55):
But can I can I just give some context, which
is that when certain boys are reminded, as they are
every morning, that to get dressed, to make their beds,
to empty the dishwasher, the howls of outrages, and this
is some appalling regime that has just been conceived overnight
to suppress and miserate them.

Speaker 19 (01:10:17):
You just wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Do you want some good news, Katie?

Speaker 22 (01:10:20):
Yeah, I'd love some good news.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Third season of Fisk about to drop.

Speaker 26 (01:10:24):
Oh that's not as good as telling me that, No,
there are better there are better shows that I would
name three. Well, I was said that they Chaos, which
I enjoyed on Netflix, and they were going to do
a second season.

Speaker 22 (01:10:38):
They're now or not, And so that's because what Netflix
does is just cancels, just devastating.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Well, Fisk has got three seasons. How can a three
season show be worse than one that didn't even make
it make it past one?

Speaker 22 (01:10:49):
I reckon the tramp is reading the listener would watch Fisk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Yeah, good point. I think that's probably true. Season one
was brilliant, Season two was fantastically disappointing. So there's hope
for season free.

Speaker 25 (01:11:02):
I think I think you guys need just spend less
time sitting on the couch looking at the telly and
more time handheld walks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
We do know what we do is we do handhold walks.
And then what I do is I rub her feet
in front of the television. I do a lot of
foot rubbing in front of the television.

Speaker 19 (01:11:15):
I did I do that with Rachel?

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Do you want to swap for a while? Does she
last week?

Speaker 19 (01:11:23):
He's got the best She's got the best feet in
the world.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Absolutely, I mean, come on, sorry, it's just the little bit,
a little bit loose on a Friday. Anyway, lovely to
see you guys, and we'll catch up this time next
week if if all goes well, Kate Hawk's be Tim
Wilson for another week. Mike, Mike, just wondering, will will
you save me having to go behind a paywall if

(01:11:45):
you could do a consumer review of the dice and
floor mop please in anticipation, Margo, why Margot? I'll come back,
But why Margot would anything to do with a mop
be behind a paywall? That's the part I want to know.
Eight twenty one.

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four to ninety nine. And remember you stop paying too
much at the Chemist Warehouse. Ask you watched Utopia? Yeah,
I have another dry Australian series. The Fisk Actress is
one of the characters. Yes she is. Can I ask
a creative question and I go Fisk? They're doing Utopia
is another one. They're about to release The Office Out

(01:13:13):
of Australia. I've seen the promo. Looks absolute crap, but
I may be proved wrong. What is it about Australians?
And what's the one I like with the woman who's
the nurse coming to be a doctor and she's in
love with the man who runs the brewery? Colin from accounts,
Colin from accounts?

Speaker 14 (01:13:30):
What is very similar? Colin from.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Very similar?

Speaker 14 (01:13:33):
You know that Kenny Fanigan's coming by the way?

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Where two here?

Speaker 14 (01:13:37):
I'm going to go and see I've got tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
Oh good, that's exciting. How about you pay for those?

Speaker 14 (01:13:41):
I don't know. I wasn't in charge of that. Better
than the arms size?

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Why is it Australia can make and these shows are
all not universally popular, not internationally popular, but they're certainly
sold internationally and have gained a real following around the world.
Why is it Australia can make any number of genuinely funny,
entertaining and clever comedies and we can't.

Speaker 14 (01:14:05):
We had one which was Flight of the Concords.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, fair enough, but that's a long time ago. Yeah,
it's a long time ago. There's your question for this morning, Mike,
you're sounding like a grumpy old starts with WNS with
er exclamation mark, and I'm a tramper and I read
the listener, but I don't listen to Radio New Zealand,
though that's a bridge too far. As for the mop,
anything that Dyson makes is top shelf in my book,

(01:14:30):
although Glenn disagrees because he's had intimate experience with the
mop something around the cleaning, but generally Dyson do a
do a nice cleaning devices My Thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Said B Here we go TSB one year fixed. This
is Adrian's work, of course, fifty basis points increasing commentary
around the seventy five scenario for November. I personally will
be surprised because he's not that kind of guy, but
you never know. I mean, he needs to do it obviously,

(01:15:11):
but nevertheless, what he needs to do and what he
does do two completely different things. Anyway, one year fixed
TSB five nine to nine. So she's a tumbling twenty
three minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
That's the furtain.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
Murriyal, how are you, mam?

Speaker 11 (01:15:33):
Good morning, mikeel pretty good, thank you, good good.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Richard Marle's former chief of staff? Is it Tenorskiwski Tanowski? Okay?
So Joe's upset. She's not happy. She didn't think she'd
done anything wrong. She's been bullied out of a job.
She goes public. How bad is this given there's quite
a bit going wrong for the government at the moment.

Speaker 11 (01:15:53):
Well, it doesn't help, does it.

Speaker 27 (01:15:54):
And you know the Liberal Party is the problem, is
the party with the women problem quote unquote.

Speaker 11 (01:16:01):
But here's Labor.

Speaker 27 (01:16:03):
You know, a fairly popular deputy prime minister acting Prime
minister at the moment. The last thing Labor needs is
to have a woman of very long standing. She's known
Richard Miles for well over a decade and she was
his chief of staff. And that's a pretty important job,
as you well know, in a political office of that importance. Anyway,
she was getting undermined, white anted from below, and this

(01:16:26):
is what her claim is, getting bullied by junior staff
in the office. She raised the concerns with the boss,
Richard Miles, and the way home earlier this year from
Ukraine and said, listen, these rat bags in the office
are really getting up my nose. He said, leave it
with me, I'll fix it. A few days later, a
few weeks later, sorry, middle of for a new job.

(01:16:47):
So she's been sitting there, apparently locked out of her office.
Can't work it didn't pardon me. So she goes, she
goes public and she says, listen, I've been treated very,
very unfairly. This sort of conduct should not be permitted
in Parliament or anywhere else for that matter.

Speaker 11 (01:17:03):
So where this lands, I'm not sure, but Labour needs
this like a hole in the head.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
I reckon for Payman's new party, which is called Australian Voice.
I noticed in her I think it might have even
been her initial interview that she couldn't really work out
whether the party would have rules around crossing the floor,
which is ironic given she crossed the floor to form
a new party. Is this going anywhere?

Speaker 19 (01:17:24):
Well?

Speaker 27 (01:17:24):
Look, I was thinking about this in the last forty
eight hours, to be honest, knowing she was going to
put her head up yesterday, and I thought of two people.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
I thought of Pauline Hanson all those years ago. One nation.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Is she going to get near?

Speaker 11 (01:17:36):
Well, well, look at her. She's still hanging around. A
lot of people really like her.

Speaker 27 (01:17:40):
A lot of people say she's a people on the
bumm of the political establishment over here. Either way, she's
a very divisive figure, but she's still there. And the
other one was that South Australian senator Cory Bernardi. He
said I'm leaving the Liberal Party. Follow me, and nobody did.
And so he's down there in South Australia with his
Australian Conservative part with one member and that's him.

Speaker 11 (01:18:01):
So it depends, I mean, payment has come out.

Speaker 27 (01:18:04):
She's only a very young woman, a refugee who came here,
educated in Australia, very bright, young woman from all accounts,
worked as a top trade union official in Western Australia
and got that third spot on the Senate ticket. She's
only in there for a minute and she quits and
now she's an independent. She's got her new party up

(01:18:26):
and running. But honest to goodness, you know, she sounded
yesterday like a young woman with a school assignment and she's.

Speaker 11 (01:18:33):
Trying to fill in all the gaps.

Speaker 27 (01:18:35):
It really is a bit naive, I think for her
to expect anyone to take us seriously. But she doesn't
even have a policy on Gaza, which is why she
walked in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
I was watching a little bit of the Parliament this
week because it's back, of course, and I look at
I mean, the Tourett's thing was a direct working of
Albanezi being under pressure, wasn't he The guy is that
he knows he's in trouble.

Speaker 27 (01:18:58):
Oh, absolutely he does, and all the polls tell you
he's in trouble. He's in trouble with the electorate because
people don't care about the Middle East.

Speaker 11 (01:19:07):
But Mike, they care about the cost of living.

Speaker 27 (01:19:09):
They care about putting food on the table for the kids,
making sure the school uniforms are clean, they've got school shoes.
That's what people are worried about, the cost of paying
the bills, electricity, gas, food, putting gas in the petrol
in the car, all the rest is kind of yeah,
look it's important, but we don't care. We want you
to acknowledge our pain with interest rates the way they are,

(01:19:30):
and Buddy will do.

Speaker 11 (01:19:31):
Something about it. Well, here's the thing he can't.

Speaker 27 (01:19:34):
Every time he tries to do something, he stands up
in parliament. There's Peter Dutton, who just he just cuts
him down exactly the whole toredch thing. It was a
dreadful look. I mean, that's schoolyard stuff. But that's exactly
the pressure he's under. Peter Dutton is going straight back
to the Tony Abbott playbook of ten years ago. Just
say no to everything and just keep belting them. And

(01:19:55):
I'll tell you what you said a few weeks ago.
Dutton could win the next election.

Speaker 11 (01:19:59):
Well he could.

Speaker 27 (01:20:00):
Right now it looks more like a hung parliament with
Labor governing in minority. The big thing that Albanezy has
going from Dutton is so dreadfully unpopular with just about
everybody except missus Dutton, and that's the only thing he's
got going from because Labor is on the nose.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Big time headline this week best article I read nearly
one term in just what is the point of the
Albanese government? I thought, well, there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
Yeah, that that sums it up, mate, that sums it up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Where does I mean? It's all very well for the
rebels to see Australian rugby, but what the outworking is
what well?

Speaker 27 (01:20:34):
The rebels have effectively been shot dead and all the
best players, you know, the tong and thor for example,
they've all gone walk about. So they're all gone. The
Rebels are no more, but the directors of the Rebels are.
They lodged a suit lawsuit this week seeking millions and
millions of dollars alleging, you know.

Speaker 11 (01:20:53):
Unfair sacking by Rugby Australia. Rugby Australia is hit back
like yesterday.

Speaker 27 (01:20:58):
So second we're going to lodge a counterclap against Melbourne
Rebels directors alleging misleading and active conduct. This is getting
increasingly nasty the the Rebels directors. I think it's in
the order of about thirty million dollars they're after. Basically,
they're saying, listen, Rugby Australia let us down. We had
a going concern down here. Rugby Australia just cut us adrift.

(01:21:21):
But Rugby Australia's had hand on a second. You guys
were trading while unsolvent. We propped you up to the
tune of millions and millions of bucks for salaries for
everybody involved. You just weren't very good at running a business. Well,
you know, as well as I do. Down in Melbourne's
Sport Talks and even if it's rugby union, which is
very much on the nose down in Victoria.

Speaker 11 (01:21:40):
It's an AFL town.

Speaker 27 (01:21:41):
And if the Melbourne Storm does well, though a little
bit rugby league, rugby union is very much a fourth
tier sport. But having said that, sports directors down there,
rugby union directors down there.

Speaker 11 (01:21:52):
I've got a reputation in town.

Speaker 27 (01:21:53):
And if someone's calling him dreadful business people, well they're
going to do something about it.

Speaker 11 (01:21:58):
So where this settled?

Speaker 27 (01:22:00):
I have no idea because you know I claim here
and a counterclaim from Rugby Australia.

Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
It's a mess that I don't need it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
You're a good luck we'll catch up next week mate,
Thank you. Michael Ways Murray holds across the Tasman for
us this morning. Year that article I read by a
guy called Sean Karney. He says, a terrifying thought is
that what's happening in our politics. This is Australia is
the best. It's the best the country can do. Increasingly,
this is savagely contested political environment, involving politician staff as
a handful of gasping, grasping lobbyists and what's left of

(01:22:27):
a watchful media and then there's the rest of Australia
that variously ignores it or is bewildered by it a
lot of the time. Sums it up very well. Indeed, hey,
that TISP news they gave you five nine nine forget
them kick him to the kurb A and Z five
five nine. If there's a new one before the end
of the program, I'll let you know. Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
At B twelve away from nine mic if fixed late
June for eighteen months at six six five, which was
good then because they or said he might raise the
ocr not happy Maria, and that is why you need
to be constantly in touch. If you were listening to
Adrian back in June, and you're right, I mean, if
you go back far enough, Adrian was saying he wasn't
going to look at anything, excuse me, until next year
and quite possibly well into next year. But things material

(01:23:17):
and this is why the economy is a living, breathing thing.
Things materially changed, and he's been dragged to a degree
I think kicking and screaming, and he's over rigged the
whole thing as I've said many many times on this program,
and if you go seventy five next month, that's just
confirmation that he's completely overregged the thing because he suddenly
woken up and panicked that everything's so contracted and so
bug it up. He's really got to let loose. But
that's why you need to be constantly in touch, because

(01:23:39):
if you make a decision on something that was said
a while ago in an environment in which the whole
mood can change, then the next thing you know, you're
texting a radio program complaining about your six sex five,
aren't you. Graham Norton is a hit. As it turns out,
we told you earlier on this week he's coming to
the country. We got Stephen fry Win's he on week

(01:23:59):
after next, I got Stephen cry coming on the program.
He's coming to the country. Boris is coming to the country.
Have we announced that yet or not? Okay, we haven't
announced it. Boris is coming to the country anyway, Is
that breaking something? I don't know anyway, So he's coming
to the country. Williams was here whenever he was last week,
the week before, and Graham Norton's here. So a lot
of people are coming to the country. It's just putting

(01:24:20):
they're not immigrants and stay for a while. But there
you go. Anyway. So he's added more shows now, is
what I'm trying to tell you. So we got a
new show in christ Jurch. He's coming here March. In
April next year. We got a new show in christ Juch,
we got a new show for Wellington, and we've got
a new show added in Auckland because tickets went on
sale and they all went nuts, so they needed to
add some more shows. So the tickets for those new shows.

(01:24:43):
Looking at this Christmas present stuff, isn't it, They go
on sale as of eleven o'clock this morning. Quick question,
how much would you pay for a roast? And this
comes out of Britain And I've been fascinated by this
lately because we were looking to go to London for Christmas.
For reasons they won't, but nevertheless, one of the things
we were looking at doing is if we're in London

(01:25:04):
for Christmas, then obviously you go somewhere for a Christmas lunch.
But the roast thing has really taken off. And I
had a roast, as I told you about, probably bored
you with several months ago, and I thought it was
was it for two? It was for two people for
one hundred bucks, just under one hundred dollars for two people,
but it was it was more food than you could do.
It was I reckon it was food for four, so

(01:25:25):
for one hundred dollars that came in at twenty five bucks.
So I thought, that's genuine value for money. And traditionally
your pub roast Sunday roast is a bargain. You look
at that, and at our local in the country, I
can't remember what they charged, but the last time I had,
I thought it was like thirty two dollars or twenty
eight dollars, and it was and that depended on whether

(01:25:45):
you had dessert or not, but we never have dessert.
But it says twenty eight to thirty two dollars, and
I thought that's phenomenal value. And so we had it,
and it was such phenomenal value we literally couldn't finish
it or indeed come anywhere close to finishing it. And
that was at the pub and' that's gone gangbusters locally,
like you cannot get in now on a Sunday. You
got a book days in advance because everyone wants to

(01:26:06):
get there because they see the value for money in Britain.
Now at certain pubs they're charging seventy five pounds one
hundred and fifty dollars for a roast. Now that's that's
three courses. But nevertheless, that's a lot of money, isn't it.
When we looked at going to London for Christmas lunch,
do you know what they're charging? And this was like
not just at one place, this was that seemed to
be the standard price at a nice hotel in London

(01:26:27):
for Christmas lunch at she I'll tell you in a
moment nine to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
On my costal breakfast with the Range Rover of the
Liar News.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Talks, that'd be I just checked at the local thirty
two bucks. But that's for everything, that's dessert and everything,
and you can't eat it, and you can't eat what's
on your plate. Sixteen for kids. Didn't realize that sixteen
dollars for kids, that's I mean, that's even that's genuine value,
isn't You can't argue that in a cost of living crisis,
to have a plate full of food that's more than
you can eat for thirty two dollars is no bad thing, Mike.
What kind of monsters don't get dessert?

Speaker 24 (01:26:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Slim ones? Is the answer to that? I would have
thought the answer to the London thing standard London Nice
Hotel Christmas lunch standard price in pounds four one hundred
and fifty pounds per person per person. So we were

(01:27:21):
going to have a table for four. So that's eighteen
hundred pounds thirty seven thirty eight one hundred dollars for lunch.
Guess who's not go coming five to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
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Brand Ftamens Jude Law.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
He's back. The movie's called The Order. It's based on
a true story FBI agent who was going after a
white supremacist group called the Order operating the US in
the eighties.

Speaker 13 (01:27:52):
How on every revolution someone has to fire the first shot.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
I had a question about some flyers that keep seeing
weight power, said the Arian Nation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
This book holds our birds right.

Speaker 19 (01:28:08):
It tells the story.

Speaker 16 (01:28:09):
I have a group of white separatists raging a race
war against the United States government.

Speaker 13 (01:28:14):
We don't advocate any of our members breaking in a laws.

Speaker 11 (01:28:18):
Let's still do well.

Speaker 13 (01:28:20):
You must understand that being a cult like the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Three boys x million? What is that by by as
an army.

Speaker 11 (01:28:30):
It's happening. War has begun.

Speaker 13 (01:28:34):
We've gone too much attention from the FBI. So everybody
talks like that, don't they stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
My whole program next week is talking like that.

Speaker 14 (01:28:47):
We need a bit more time.

Speaker 19 (01:28:48):
Then.

Speaker 14 (01:28:49):
It's a bit slower than how you normally go.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
I reckon it is Clinton. I reckon it is that's
out in cinemas on Sam's written down heel looks good. Okay,
I think the time. I think the day we start
taking movie recommendations from Sam as the day we will
go home early. Nicholas Holts the other one. He's the

(01:29:14):
neo Nazi leader. Jude is the FBI agent. I'm Mike Hosking,
just a radio host and artist. Of course, did I
say to Simper six Swissikins does movies because sings. Anyway,
you have a lovely weekend and we'll look forward to
your company Monday, as always, Happy Days.

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