Full Show Podcast: 13 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Be today, New stats on the public service that will
surprise you. New stats on the number of prisoners. We're
going to end up with the Angst Nunus Trump Hauchst Review,
Brendan Hartley's at LA Monocourse Formal winner and he's got
a busy weekend. Lind Up, Timicatey did the week, Richard
Arna Murray olds they provide the offshore shine as well,
asking welcome to Friday, seven past six, this census, these

(00:31):
release of figures this week, some of those numbers released
really are a treasure trove of not just fact and stats.
But I would have thought of hope. If you think
about it, that astonishing move south, the tens of thousands
who have headed to the South Island, particularly Christy, Is
that not a framework if you think about it, for
what the whole country could be a few choice decisions,
a bit of get up and go, a bit of cooperation,

(00:51):
a little bit of vision. There are parts of this
country that clearly have done it right and are clearly
magnets in their own right. And then stats around work
this week as well, that very good work seems to
be a problem. It's reported as a negative. The headline
was more and more people are working longer, indicating you
want to stop. You want to stop? Of course, because
of the pension, you can stop any time you like.

(01:11):
I mean, there's no law around when you work and
when you don't work. But the stats and the reportage
of work and age are increasingly out of date. As
we live longer, of course, we're going to work longer.
Why wouldn't we Work is actually good for us? Work
is fun, workers rewarding financially and emotionally. We're challenged by work.
Work should not be a thing that you expect to end.
It's the same as health or fitness, or diet or leisure.

(01:32):
Now the stats one and two. These days, fifty percent
are working between ages sixty five and sixty nine. A
quarter are still working between seventy and seventy four. Even
ten percent of people are working over seventy five. And
why not. I mean, if you resent it and you've
got to work fair enough, I guess if physically you're naked, sure,
go play balls. But the days of Grandad and the
gold Watch in one company for life, They're gone. We

(01:53):
need to break this psychological hold that Super has over us.
It's not even a lot of money. Super. I mean,
if it was lotto, understand it. But it's a bare minimum.
It speaks sadly to this country's productivity or lack of
it and work ethic that too many people, the too
reliant on it. Working longer will actually lead to better
health outcomes. Hopefully, the kids who the census, by the
way tells us working more as well. Teenagers have never

(02:16):
been more employed than they are these days. They will
enter the workforce with a view that work is for
life because we see work for the good, not work
for the drudgery. And I guess if you happen to
be working into your old age and doing it in
the South Island, now, it's not a bad life at all.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
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Speaker 2 (02:36):
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Speaker 5 (02:49):
A witness my office is two hundred meters away from
the crash. State, I heard a loud noise and came
out saying, and then saw a thick cloud of smoke.
People started grinning and chaos the.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Plane to the hostel.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
Now we know that five students work in fact eating
their meal at this dormitory building, at the mess of
the dormitory building, have unfortunately died.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
The Indian government, our priority is to rescue the injured
and provide help in this emergency, and our team is
working on it and we are on our way. The
British government, the SCDO is working urgently with local authorities
to support British.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
Nationals and their families and has.

Speaker 8 (03:28):
Stood up a crisis team in both Delhi and in London.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And then Trump is held a signing ceremony when he's
next to the California ev money and he.

Speaker 9 (03:38):
Said, as long as I'm on the same plane as
everybody else, we're going to do good. We make a
better product. He said, that's very cool, It's very good.
That was my answer. After that, he get a little
bit strange.

Speaker 10 (03:49):
But I don't know why.

Speaker 9 (03:51):
I over much smaller things in there.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
And he's referring to as old might elon. I've got
to pull out on Elon for some reason. The polling
Elon these days anyway, he'll so called your own poll
and numb skull. Finally, from the American Journal of Human
Biology study involving more than five thousand people twelve countries,
they've looked at the two D four D ratio. This
is the distance between your second and fourth digit I,
you index and your ring fingers. Now, those whose ring

(04:14):
finger was longer than their index finger, that's me, by
the way, well more likely to perform better and long
distance sporting events, can endure more physical activity than others
and have increased focus when it comes to sport. Also
run very successful breakfast shows. If the index finger is longer,
you're more likely to be well they say, left less athletic.
So in other words, a slob, they say, increase risk

(04:35):
of obesity. In other words, a fat slob, lower pain threshold,
but longer ring finger is also associated with psychopathic tendencies,
antisocial personality disorder, and opium.

Speaker 11 (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's excent. What if they're exactly the same length?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Good question, You're just weird. Use the world of ninety
Britain not good. Trade Tariff's not good. The goods exported
to the US from Britain dropped by two billion pounds
in April, biggest decrease since nineteen ninety seven, and that
led to the UK economy going backwards. In April it
shrink It contracted zero point three percent. So that is

(05:09):
what Trump does to the US economy are to the
global economy. Twelve Plas six.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
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Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's a busy world. Central Bank in India fifty points
down to five point five on the cash rate, their
inflation rate ease to two point eight two. Netnia who
had a vote of no confidence against him. There was
a worry yesterday that he may lose it. He didn't
in the end. You need a sixty one vote majority.
He got sixty one, so she's Type fifteen. Passed from

(05:50):
Devon Fund's management, Greg Smith. Morning, moy you, Mike.

Speaker 11 (05:53):
We really need to.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Go out this weekend and buy something, don't we. A
We need to change the narrative, get out there and
spend a bit of dough.

Speaker 12 (06:00):
Absolutely, the retailers definitely need that. So yeah, spending still
in aduldrums might and you know petrol prices. I mean
all has been on other riise in the last few days,
but petrol prices has been falling. But yeah, Kiwi consumers
aren't sharing the love with other retails are still sort
of hunkering down, so may electronic car transactions. Spinning in
retail industries it was down point two percent through April
on a seasonally adjusted basis to six point five billion.

(06:23):
Spending on fuel foil two point four percent, but there
wasn't much joy for other categories, So excluding those prices,
core retail industries were down point two percent. Spending on
long lasting items it was down to half percent. Spending
on consumebers that was down point one percent. There wasn't
brightness for hospital that actuallyge up point one percent. Also
spend on motor vehicles that was up two point six percent.

(06:45):
Overall spending it was up point three percent to nine
billion dollars, but a lot of it's been supported by
spending on essential so medical and health care. I suppose
that's understandable if we want to spend things a little
bit more positively. If we look at May this year
versus May last year, spinning is actually up two point
one percent, so it is better than a year ago,
and retail spinning up point nine percent, and those two

(07:05):
month a month rises are the largest such rises since
twenty twenty four. And let's look look at some other brightness.
We've got around half mortgages come up for repricing over
the next six months, so the picture may become more
encouraging yet. But yeah, let's get out and spend this weekend, Mike.
And for the retail sector.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Say Oracle, good result, good numbers.

Speaker 12 (07:25):
Yeah, I love that name as well. Shares up fourteen percent.
Came in for crack of result. The AI narrative is
well and truly still around, Mike. It's all about the cloud.
So their revenue is are up eleven percent to sixteen billion.
The then come up three in a million to three
point four billion. Cloud sales up twenty seven percent, six
point seven billion, Cloud infrastructure sales up fifty two percent

(07:47):
three billion, and there's a lot more growth coming. Oracle
says cloud infrastructure revenue is going to rise more than
seventy percent this year. So our major play here the
everything got competing power and storage are taggered in climent.
It's like Amazon and open Ai, Xai, Meta and the like.
And that they're really doing well. So it's all about
getting data set of capacity. There's for anetic demand for

(08:09):
that with AI, so they're spending big time to sort
of generate this capacity. So keper expensis are set more
than triple to twenty one point two billion. It's paying off.
Bookings up six percent in the quarter, and Larry Allison,
the chairm and heroicans things are going to step up
from here big time. He said, they've had orders that
have said we'll take all the capacity you have, whatever

(08:30):
it is. He says, we've never had an order like
that before. There's also the Stargate projects, so it's a
joint eventually by Oracle Open ai soft being it's investing
up to five and a billion AI infrastructure in the
US by twenty twenty nine. So that's going to add
to the mix. So the investors like what they heard.
Shares Mic are up sixty five percent since later April.
Investors are growing more domestic that tariffs and gepilical issues

(08:53):
won't effect the software industry or AI demand. That looks
like that's rightly.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So good story. Now the number overnight, this wholesale number
at zero point one two point six annualized expecting zero
point two. So I'm assuming that went down reasonably.

Speaker 12 (09:07):
Well, your your assumption is correct. Yeah, so the usnses
are all up on that. So yeah, it's another tame
inflation read. We talked about CPI inflation, and tariffs in
particular are showing up in places they cost a durable goods,
such as impliances the increased over four percent, that was
the most since January twenty twenty three, and computer equipment
that was up one point one percent. But over all,

(09:27):
these trade duties are yet to make an appearance and
sort of mentioned you say, but it might be about
companies hoarding goods ahead of that April two tariff announcement.
And also I suppose it takes time for charges to
make their way through the real economy. So yeah, it's
encouraging a read. But I think the real test is
going to come in the months ahead. I mean, we've
got fifty five percent tariffs on Chinese goods. That's more

(09:49):
than double where it was pre Liberation Day. That's going
to have an impact. Although I suppose investors are still
dealing with some mixed messages. So best and he said
overnight that the July seven pause deadline might be extended
for some bigger trading partners. Now Trump's come out and
said he's going to send out letters the next couple
of weeks setting out uniletteral tariff rates to impose on

(10:10):
dozens of economies. So get look, inflation's pretty tame at
the moment, but that could well change.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Lay some numbers on me.

Speaker 12 (10:17):
So you investors loved the Oracle numbers and loved the
inflation prints. So the down up point two percent forty
two nine to three one and po fi've run up
point three percent sixty four to two. NAS tack up
point two percent forty one hundred. That was up point
two percent. We had a week that we caught UK
economy contracted more than expected, and then tariffs did play
a part there. Nike down point seven percent, thirty eight

(10:38):
one seven three, A six two hundred, down point three percent.
Insitt X fifty was also down point three percent there
for US SO gold it was up twenty eight dollars
three thousand, three hundred and eighty three an ounce. Oil
up twenty five cents. This is worth watching, Mike, so
always creeping out towards seventy barrels. So at sixty eight
point four at the moment on geobilitical tensions, particularly at
least and the currencies are the key is up against

(11:00):
He was stall by half seen sixty point six Australian.
I also high ninety two point nine forty four point
six against the pound and jepanys gen eighty seven even.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, have a good weekend, catch up next week, Greg
Smith debon fund's management's good oil. It's all on a run.
And I thought Trump was going to fix that a run.
But I'll come back to come back to at the moment,
they got some old gold coins, right. They found some
gold coins in a house in a wall, a gap
in the wall in France. Guy called Paul had collected them.
Paul didn't get out a lot. Paul died last year
and he had one of the great collections of these

(11:29):
gold coins. And they go back one hundreds and thousands
of years. They go back. He had coins from the
Kingdom of Macedonia in three point thirty six BC. He
had coined a complete set of coins during the reigns
of King Louis the fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth just sitting
in the wall because he didn't go out very much.
He's a bit weird, old Paul. Anyway, they found them
and they sold them five point seven million, just like that.

(11:51):
Six twenty one News talk set b.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
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Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, they're preparing to get some of the American people
out of the Iraqi embassy. Things are getting a little
bit tense, apparently with a run and there's some thinking
that Trump might go at them, and then Iran goes,
if you go at us, we'll go at you, blah
blah blah. Anyway, so they're sort of building up. Anyway,
the main point of it is there's no deal meantime
in Los Angeles, which they've stoked up in the most

(12:27):
ridiculous fashion this week. Sona, I'm Christy. She's holding a
press conference as we speak. Just called it to a halt.
Guy called Padilla, who's a Democrat and a senator. He
goes in and wants to ask a few questions.

Speaker 13 (12:41):
I'm senator.

Speaker 14 (12:42):
I have questions for the secretary because the fact of
the matter is a half a dozen criminals that you're
protending on.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Your throwing.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Pushing him against a toss him out of the room. RFK.
I'll come back to that because he sacked everyone at
the vaccine board the other day and he's just put
some new people on, and I can tell you what
they think of vaccines budget this morning. New numbers three
hundred and sixteen billion for May, up fourteen percent on
a year ago. The bill on the interest, which is
thirty six trillion, the bill on the interest is ninety

(13:16):
two billion, so they're going backwards at a rate of knots.
I've got the poll on Elon for you shortly, and
they're about to vote on the Doge thing on PBS
and NPR, which is public broadcasting. So she's busy. Sex
twenty five trending.

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Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'll give you some of those numbers. In a moment,
Kennedy sent us speaking of Trump, speaking of Washington, he
was there last night. If he didn't see the pictures,
he turned up with the rarely seen Missus performance of
La Miss Kennedy boored. This is another angsty moment. So
they've always had to mix the board of Dems and
Republicans until Don arrived. He sacked all the Dems put
his mates in something the crowd had mixed views on.

Speaker 7 (14:12):
Right, wecking Bedlan.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
If you're going to boot, do a proper boot.

Speaker 11 (14:20):
It's not I just like the way that you can't
figure out what's going on. You stop it, stop boo.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Anyway, what's really gone off this morning? On the socials?
The drinks A canned soda last night was thirteen dollars
thirty and a glass of wine was thirty one dollars
and fifty cents, Which is not bad going, isn't it.
So Camera Baggery is with us in a couple of moments.
This whole public service job thing, remember that from last year,
and it was it was a hunger game scenario. Remember

(14:47):
all those headlines, it's one hundred games out there. They
only rolled two thousand people. Is that a lot of people?
Not really when there were sixty four thousand people in
the public service so that what was that? Was that
just a headline by the government or did they actually
sack anybody? And then we've got some new numbers around
the consultants as well. Cameron Bagrie on this directly after
the news and Brendan Hartley directly from le mom after

(15:10):
seven to thirty this morning. The news though, is next.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
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Speaker 2 (15:25):
We work out. While we got exercise yesterday about this
Orcust review from Trump, the UK reviewed UCUS. Everyone should
review ORCUS and when they do, they generally get more
and more enthusiastic about it. And there's no reason to
believe the Americans won't be the same. But anyway, we'll
look at this very shortly twenty three to seven. Interesting
stats on our public service, given the noise around the
restructure over the past year or so, workforce is down
three point one percent. What's that meaning jobs, Well, two

(15:46):
thousand are gone two thousand, but quarterly we now have
a zero point four percent increase in public service jobs.
There are in our sixty three two hundred and thirty
eight full time in the public service. Consultant spending came
at four hundred twenty million. Is that bad? Well, not
as bad as it was because it's the lowest in
seven years. Anyway. Cameron Bagri, independent economist, as well as
Cameron Morning to you.

Speaker 15 (16:08):
I'm morning, my.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Two thousand as an exercise inefficiency in productivity is two
thousand out of sixty three a win.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Well, I guess we've got to sit back and think about. Yeah,
there's that old sort of adage about there's there's lies
as damn laws and statistics. So if I were look
at your government personnel expenses in the nine months to
March twenty twenty five versus the nine months to March
twenty twenty four, government person OEL expenses are up three

(16:37):
point one percent, you know, so that doesn't personophy to
me too much of a tightening in regard to what's
going on. So there might be a little bit of
your hodgepodging in regardless to six down below. But if
you've got the top line sort of figures, the top
line figures are.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Still grown exactly. So even of the people we got
rid of, there's an increase. Why are we having an increase?
How does that come about?

Speaker 6 (16:58):
Well, I guess if you if you look at top down, like,
we're getting a lot of writer at here in regard
it's been a real big, huge tightening of the volt.
If you ever look at what's called the obigaal operating
balance at sclaring gains and losses, or what's called the
structural deficit, which strips out the impact of the economic cycle.
They're still deteriorating over the coming twelve months. It's going

(17:20):
to get worse. Your net debt is up fifteen ban
dollars in the next twelve months. There's a lot of
writers about the government tightening the valve, but all the
savings that I'm seeing within the fiscal accounts are backloaded.
All the good time stuff in the form of tax cuts,
investment boost that sort of stuff that's front loaded. So

(17:40):
what we're seeing here at the moment there might be
a bit of tightening in certain years of expenditure up front,
but that's been reallocated towards a bit of feel good
stuff on the other side of the lead shot. And
it's bad taking for poor to pay Peter Pauline to
pay penny that sort of stuff. But the important thing here, Mike,
is the big change in the fiscal stance, tightening of

(18:00):
the rains. We have not yet seen that that's in
the out years. And the question mark here is that
all that really being delivered.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Interesting what's your call next week? By the way, while
I got you on the GDP that somebody who was
reading at zero point seven and we got some growth
in Q one or no, we had some growth in
Q one.

Speaker 15 (18:16):
Oh, we've got growth in Q one.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
But the big level, the big issue here is once
again it's it's levels versus chains. So GDP is a
change metric. So we're going to see positive growth, which
is a good thing, but you need to see numerous
quarters of positive growth before you're going to get that
level of GDP back into the happy zone. Because we
saw the economy get pretty beaten up in twenty twenty

(18:40):
twenty four, in twenty and twenty three, so levels matter
for business and regard the profitability covering your operating class,
that sort of stuff with We're moving in the right direction,
but to get in that real field good zone, I
think we're still about six to nine months away, but
we're moving in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Good stuff, Cameron, you have a good weekend. Appreciate it
very much. Cameron Baggery Independent Economists.

Speaker 12 (18:58):
Yeah, that was the thing that this.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Orchest so yester to I'm thinking, oh God, I don't
want to read about this because I'm saying I couldn't
work out why everyone was being negative about ucus because
just because you review something, because I knew the poems
had reviewed it, and they came back with a renewed vigor.
They said, yes, yes, yes, more please, this is good
for us. The Australians packed a mess of said going, oh, Dann,
what about the submarines, which meant millions of dollars on it.

(19:20):
The only thing I could find is the Americans don't
make enough submarines for themselves, so this America first thing.
Do the Americans go, well, we're not making enough submarines
for ourselves, so why would we get submarines made for Australians.
But the Australians are paying the Americans billions to build stuff,
which is what Trump wants. So I concluded that this
is a non story. So anyway, we'll talk to one

(19:43):
map about it after seven o'clock and see if I'm right.
Nineteen two.

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Speaker 7 (20:37):
Paskyme, Mike lux.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And Willis need to be held to account. Willison talks
of a game but fails to deliver Whore and Luxe
and claim to be better with the public money, but
government debt continues to grow, as does government expense. It's true,
it is true, true, true, And then she says this.

Speaker 16 (20:49):
It has not been lost on me that if you
go to Costco today you can get better for about
half the price that you can at New World at
pat and say and story of competition.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, it isn't. No, it isn't Nikola. There's one cost
Co in the country and most of Auckland doesn't use
it because it's out West Auckland. Second of all, if
you're in Queenstown, you can't go to Costco. Third of all,
we made it very clear on this program. Costco is
selling butter at a loss. I'm assuming the Finance Minister
doesn't want supermarket selling products at a loss, so they're

(21:23):
losing money to get you in the door. It's not
about competition. It's about dragging people in and losing money
on one product so they can make more money on another.
And that's before you get to the fact you have
to pay to belong to Costco in the first place.
Every time she sees that stuff, she loses credibility.

Speaker 17 (21:39):
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Peace of mind for New Zealand business, it's.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Richard Arnold morning, good money. Make what a Boeing got
to say?

Speaker 18 (21:50):
Well, yeah, how they say they're horrified by this scene.
Clearly everyone is scorers of charred bodies being recovered from
the crash, bowing seven eighty seven eight hundred Dreamline and
more than two hundred and ninety passengers and people on
the ground killed in Ahmedabad and only one known survivant.
How miraculous. He's a British fellow, forty year old vishwash

(22:11):
framsh who were sitting in seat eleven A, so right
near the emergency exit, near the wing in front, says
David Susi, a former US federal aviation investigator.

Speaker 19 (22:20):
That's right where the spar of the wing would go
under and it would be a solid place for the
aircraft to hit the ground. But as far as survivability
above it, that's it's incredibly surprising.

Speaker 18 (22:31):
Well, this man escapes with only some beruising to his chest.
No word on his brother, who also was on the
jet and they were trying to get back to London
after making a family visit. He says that thirty seconds
after take off there was a loud noise, then the
plane crashed and he saw bodies all about amid pieces
of the shattered jet. Now, this is the first fatal
crash by this particular Boeing model, with about one thousand

(22:54):
of these aircraft in service around the world. In New
Zealand has fourteen of the seven eight seven nines, so
that's a slightly longer version of this plane, has a
greater range, holds few more passengers, but these jets have
a top safety record in this air as after the
pilot called of mayday moments before the crash, and David
Seussi says.

Speaker 19 (23:12):
I do have a concern about the configuration of the
airplane after it took off, and you can see it's
pretty clear that the flats are not down on the
aircraft and that the landing gear is out, and that's
just the exact opposite of what you would expect to see.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
At that altitude.

Speaker 19 (23:27):
The landing gear should have been withdrawn and the flaps
should have been down still to make that aircraft climb,
and that's not what happened here.

Speaker 18 (23:34):
So that's one expert view, he says, that's the first
thing he'd look at, and then the black boxes, which
he says should have a lot of information in this model.

Speaker 19 (23:41):
It's so sophisticated. It's technologically advanced to where it actually
has sensors in the wings that sense the stress is
on the wings, and those will be recorded in the
black box as well. There's so much information available with
this accident.

Speaker 18 (23:56):
Yeah, it's up to the Indian government of course, as
to who leads that part of the investigation, where materials
if they're sent to London or Singapore or to the
INTSB lab in Washington, d C. But no doubt Boeing
and you were safety investigators will play some role in
all of this mode.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Right, parade, the protest, where are we at?

Speaker 18 (24:13):
Yeah, that's the deal. We're seeing some sharply desperate visions
of the country this week and coming up. They're rolling
in the tanks for the Trump birthday military parade set
for this Sunday, your time, Washington, d C. Rostered to
take part at one hundred and fifty military vehicles, dozens
of helicopters, various planes, and sixty seven hundred soldiers. Trump
is saying, the.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
Greatest weapons in the world and the greatest people in
the world.

Speaker 18 (24:37):
It's going to be a big parade, big big parade
on Trump's seventy ninth birthday. Hey, that's just a coincidence, right,
And the Trump team has been well into the planning,
boosting the number of troops involved from three hundred, initially
to sixty seven hundred. His idea is to have a
parade bigger, much bigger than what he saw in Paris
for Bestiel Day in twenty seventeen, when Trump said at

(24:57):
the time he wanted an even larger parade than those
French folks been able to put on, Bigger than Putin's parades,
bigger than Kim Jong or in, just big, big, big,
seventy four million dollars in New Zealand, forty five million
US just for the army's role, says Democrat Dick Durbin,
of the costs that are being registered with all of this.

Speaker 20 (25:14):
Forty five million dollars for a parade, for God's sake,
money should be put in defense, medical research.

Speaker 18 (25:19):
But a problem might be thunderstorms, the weather. It's not
looking too good for this weekend. Fox plans to air
this thing as well, but the other television networks not
so much. Lots of hotel rooms still available, folks not
flocking to see this thing. Trump says security will be tired.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Has any protester once to come out, there will be
met with very big force.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Protesters.

Speaker 18 (25:40):
Watch out. No distinction there between violent and peaceful i e.
Legal protests, but an but at two thousand sites around
the country at the same time. On Sunday, there will
be protests in a raft of cities and towns so
called No King's Day. Meantime, last night, Trump and Millennium
Really Seen went after the kin the Center to watch

(26:01):
the musical lay Misserrabbler, after Trump took control of that
leading cultural venue some weeks back, making himself the chairman
of a board made up of mostly Trump aids and
Fox News people. When Trump arrived last night, he was
loudly booed, You're welcome. Yeah. There are also some shares

(26:23):
amid shouts of things like convicted felon, interesting choice that
lay missed right for Trump's first ever theater outing. There
the story of poor folks fighting against a system that
favors the rich of ordinary people, including Jean Valjean building
barricades against the government and chanting do you hear the
people sing?

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Let's talk Monday? Richard Arnold staittze by the way yesterday
from Fort Bragg, the instructions to the soldiers behind Trump
were as follow as twelve to fifteen. Everyone must be
seated in the bleachers. Under note soldiers sitting in the
bleachers are to be fit not look fat. If any
soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the
current administration, they don't want to be in the audience,
then they need to speak with their leadership get swapped out. Basically,

(27:01):
they don't want soldiers in the audience rolling their eyes
or shaking their head in disagreement. So it works.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Nine to seven the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real
Estate Newstalgs.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
They'd be I've started something Mike Costco selling butter at
a loss to get people in the door knock competition.
Really are you saying you will pack and soave, etc.
Don't run lost these Well, of course I'm not. You've
missed my point completely and now you've frustrated me and
not infuriated me. I'm going to need to come back
to this after seven o'clock because I've said this a
million times, so stand by five away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
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to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Good news for New Zealand Inc. And what really has
been a pretty up beat week. I think moob survey
post budget the investment boosts you know we get the
twenty percent depreciation. Forty eight percent of people are looking
to change their plans to invest because of his policy.
Twelve percent so it changes their plans considerably, twenty eight
percent say it won't change what they do. Seven percent
don't know and I cannot stand people who are indecisive.

(27:58):
Forty five percent are going to make their first asset
purchase within the next six months, twenty percent will do
it in three months. Average spend's going to be a
bit over thirty seven grand. Twelve percent are going to
spend eighty to one hundred grand. Twelve percent are going
to spend to one hundred and to two hundred grand.
The ag sector they're bullish fifty seven thousand on average.
Finance and insurance they're bullish sixty grand on average. What

(28:20):
are they going to buy? I'm going to buy cars,
of course, we're going to buy some cars and some
vans and some utes. Twenty eight percent will buy a
new office technology, twenty two percent will buy some digital services,
eighteen percent furniture. Got to have a good chair, fifteen
percent Tools of the trade. What does that mean? There's
tools of trademen going to buy them a Kita twelve
percent smaller scale machinery or equipment. Will it help most

(28:41):
people think so thirty five percent, So they expect to
see increase production because of that purchase. Thirty one percent
expect to save time on key tasks, and twenty three
percent expect employee engagement and well being to improved. There
you go, So build it and they will come. Twenty
percent depreciation. You're in right. Let's sort the supermarket thing
out once and for all. And I've set it a
million times, I'll say it for a million and one.

(29:02):
What I'm saying with Nichola willis is this, Yes you
have lost leaders. Yes you can go to Costco. The
fact Costco are already here proves that competition is there
if you want it to be. There is nothing stopping
As I've said a million times, there is nothing stopping
anybody entering the supermarket industry at the moment, most importantly
of all, from Nichola's point of view, with this endless

(29:24):
rhetoric about how she's going to quote unquote fix the
supermarket industry, do it. Stop talking about it, stop waving
your magic wand stop threatening, stop involving the Commerce Commission,
stop teasing it. If You've got something that none of
us can see that is so brilliant, so special, so different,

(29:45):
so much upheaval.

Speaker 10 (29:48):
Do it?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Do it now so we can all.

Speaker 11 (29:51):
Go, oh god, she's doing about she's selling fatter and
wears Stalkland that.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
A lost gee.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Wayne map on this Orchestra review will do that. And
then Brendan Hartley out of Lemont for you. After seven thirty.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
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Speaker 2 (30:14):
Be morning was seven past seven, So a bit of
banks over the Americans announcing this review of Orcus. They're
putting their America first lens over a big deal in
Australia yesterday given their commitment to it. Judith Collins went
all storm on it. Wayne mapp Is, a former defense
minister of course, needs back with us. Wayne, morning to you,
good morning right. I can't work out why we're exercised
about this. I mean, wouldn't you, as a new president
put your lens over it? And when the UK reviewed it,

(30:36):
they reviewed it with alacrity and they said more please,
we like it. I mean, is there anything to be
worried about here.

Speaker 21 (30:42):
The fact that it's a third day review instead along
would indicate the fundamentally the US that is fundamentally committed
to it. Australia, I reckon, is probably their number one ally,
especially in the age of Pacific. They're hardly going to
trash that relationship exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So you would expect them to look at it, say
it's fine, and carry on with it and presume. The
only thing I could find that could be a problem
is America doesn't make enough subs for themselves. So could
they say, well, look we should make subs for ourselves
instead of you know, making them for other people. Is
that part of it?

Speaker 21 (31:11):
Well, I think the other part is putting a bit
of pressure on Australia for them to boost the defence expenditure. Look,
if Australia wants to buy nuclear subs, so they're going
to have to spend a lot more money. There's no
doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
And that's where the Males meeting came up the other
day with heg Seth and he was I can't remember
what a number US three and a half hitting the
five or whatever the case may be, is that where
do you think the world is hitting more money on defense,
and this is just going to become a thing.

Speaker 21 (31:36):
Yes, it seems to NATO's standard is now going to
be three and a half percent or thereabouts. That's been
pretty clear from all the publicity. NATO seems to be
buying into it. The Americans would expect Australia to kind
of line up with that, and that'll have a techo
on New Zealand as well. Now actually three and a
half percent, but you know we're not going to be
able to keep getting away with one and a half percent.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Why did Colins goals quiet on it yesterday? What would
be the thinking behind it? And we're not even part
of Orcust for God's sake.

Speaker 21 (32:05):
No, but we're connected to it. And look, it's sensible
for her to do that, and I would expect nothing less.
This is an issue really between the United States and Australia,
and I guess the UK as well. There's no need
for us to stick our or and to that we can.
We're obviously going to be looking at it carefully that
we take a reasonably sensible approach to diplomacy.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Glad we got that cleared up, Well done, WAYE appreciate it.
Way and map form at Defense Minister Naemen, it's past
seven passing numbers around people in jail, tougher new sentencing
laws that you're well aware of, of course. So the
suggestion is our prison population could potentially grow about thirty
six percent over the next ten years. It will be
fourteen thousand prisoners. It would be the result of these
three strike laws, capping of the sentencing discounts, all that
sort of stuff. Anyway, Lee Marsh is the Commissioner of

(32:46):
Custodial Services at Corrections and is with us Lee morning.

Speaker 22 (32:50):
Oh good boy mate.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
How rock solid are these numbers? So therefore you as
a department go well, where we're locked into those numbers.
Therefore we need to build this sort of sized facility
or spend this amount of money.

Speaker 22 (33:02):
That's an interesting question. How rock solidary? These are projections
and they're ten year projections. So if you heart back
to a year ago from the twenty four to thirty
four projection, it was around three thousand lower than this projection.
So they do ebb and flow each time, but they
are the basis in which we plan our estate. We
do cauch that a little the reality and make sure
that we have in a buffer to We're a lot

(33:24):
of this variability. If you recall back in March twenty eighteen,
we we were other eight hundred prisoners back then, and
we've had a substantial drop since and then a substantial rise.
So over the years we do experience this this ebb
and flow, But we're in a really good place right now.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
You make a very good point. My head is at
about ten ish thousand. Does that still the case?

Speaker 22 (33:43):
Well, this morning we are six hundred and forty three
at unlock ten. Five hundred and sixty three of those
are on site.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
So over a decade does an increase of less than
four thousand really that many? Presumably also including the fact
that the population is going to increase.

Speaker 22 (33:58):
Well in relation to the growth over ten years, that
really lines up with our bill programs, so we plan
for that. In relation to the general population increase, well,
that depends on a whole raft of things, such as
government policies, societal norms, perceptions on crime and punishment. So
that's a little bit out of our control, and that's
up to the kind of ebb of community and society.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Really are we outliers and putting people in jail? Last
I always Look, the Americans put a lot of people
in jail. We put quite a few people in jail,
and we is that the norm, so to speak.

Speaker 22 (34:29):
It's a difficult comparison to make. So you will always
find countries that put less people in prison than us.
You will always find countries that put more people in
prison for their population than us. But it all depends
on the kind of the foundations of your criminal justice
system and how certain mechanisms in it are applied. So
I wouldn't say we're an outlier.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
No good on you late appreciate the insight Lee Marsho's
commission of a Custodial Services at corrections. Whether there's twelve
and it's past seven. Housing numbers dealing with the house
yesterday is being taken off the market being risted for winter,
will be brought back in spring. It was on a
tender program. Not a bit in sight. That's of no
interest to you other than I was just dabbling in
the property market yesterday. But I've got fresh numbers of

(35:08):
this morning. The national asking price, I'm always slightly I
mean what you're asking what you get are two completely
different things. But anyway, the asking price is down one
point two percent, So the average around the country is
eight hundred and forty five grand. We've got increases in Southland, Taranaki,
West Coast, Manuatu, Wanganui. Apart from that all the other
regions there are fifteen regions, so four up, twelve down.

(35:31):
Make that eleven down because eleven and four recurs fifteen
Auckland down. A smidge is still over a million bucks.
Canterbury at seven oh five. See, that's why everyone's moving
to Canterbury. Seven hundred and five thousand for a nice
house in Canterbury, you can't go wrong. Now, this is
where she's looking a bit cold and chill in the
housing market around the country median days median it's important
to remember that how long does it take to sell

(35:52):
a house? Seventy days it's up from sixty two. So
still a few listings around, but people are taking their
time because they know that can because it's still a
bias market. Thirteen past the.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
Mike My counsel evaluation went up thirty eight percent in Metacana.
That's nuts well, it's not nuts well, if you've been
to Maticana lately the place is booming, so I'm not
remotely surprised. Fun fact on architect's very sad piece are
read this week on architects. Architects are at the cutting
edge of the economy. Of course, in terms of really
architects are used in flash homes, and you know, people
who bill flash homes need to be bullish. The cost
per square meter needs to be reasonable, all of those

(36:32):
sort of things. But they're saying, they're arguing, I'll come
back with some more specific number in a moment, but
they're saying that architects are suffering the worst slump in
fifty years. So difficult time being an architects. Sixteen past
seven now good times though for christ jur this weekend,
not only those census stats we gave you this week,
but they got the Super Rugby playoffs. Of course, Crusaders, Blues,
Chiefs and Brumbies have a go at it in the tron.

(36:54):
But Colin Mainsbridge is the Crusader CEO, of course, and
he's back with us this Friday morning. Colin morning, what
an of Mike?

Speaker 10 (37:00):
How are you making very well?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Indeed, is there a vibe about town? We got a
bit of a build up to this.

Speaker 15 (37:05):
There's a bit of a build up.

Speaker 13 (37:06):
I think Mayor Wayne Brown's pop down to a banter
off with philm Major and I've had Andrew Hohre in
my all week chirping away. It's worse than Rico and
so yeah, there's plenty of attension around town, no doubt
about it.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
What's your view of Super Rugby. Did the Australians come
to the party? I mean, I know the Brumbies are
there and all that, but the Australians sort of hold
up their end of the bargain this year or not.

Speaker 13 (37:32):
I think they did the challenges. You've got to stick
with these things for a wee while it's very you know,
Minor Pacifica is sort of the exception where you put
a bunch of athletes together and then they performed, you know,
within a couple of years, they're performing at the top
of a game. Generally, you have to build these things
over a longer period of time. And I think the

(37:53):
lights of the Reds and the Brumbies in particular and
the Force have been quietly chipping away at it for
a while. That these things don't happen quickly. They take
a little bit of time.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
What do you make of the lucky loser idea?

Speaker 13 (38:08):
I think it's a untheatical the Chiefs are lucky loser.
I mean they've been pretty outstanding all year so so
and that game. I mean that's especially, isn't it When
you go to that extra extra period. In another format,
they you know they would have qualified one and potentially
got through and not had to play that week. So

(38:31):
so I think it's sort of had you never knew
what was going to happen until the very end, despite
everyone suggesting it was, we're going to but we've had
no dead rubbers, so yeah, I might have to have
a wee look at it, but I still think it's
made plenty of chatter and that's probably not bad thing.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I think overall, either that game and there's plenty of
you guys have played, so I mean it's been very
high quality rugby, hasn't.

Speaker 15 (38:54):
It It has? I think Jack Messley the super c
he keeps banging on about how he wants to see
Jeopard in every match, and I think last weekend was
a classic, you know, to see blues and cheese and
and I think that did surprise us. It didn't surprise
the Blues obviously, but surprised most of us. So I
think that's been the nature of the competition this year.

(39:16):
You don't know who's going to win, and that's really
that's what you want, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (39:19):
Really?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Well, I do know who's going to win, as it
turns out, Colin and I see Crusaders winning against the Blues,
and then they'll play the Chiefs and then they'll beat
them and then there'll be that, won't it.

Speaker 15 (39:30):
That would be nice. Nice, That would be nice.

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Probably a little bit harder than just saying it, that
would be nice. But yeah, look, I think these guys
are going to turn up. It's interesting that mind games
that have been played this week.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Learn great man, you know you're falling for that stuff though,
are you calling?

Speaker 15 (39:50):
No?

Speaker 13 (39:50):
No, no, it's funny, but it's fun.

Speaker 15 (39:54):
Actually it is fun and it's funny.

Speaker 13 (39:55):
But it is interesting to see, you know, every tactic
that is being brought to beer, which is what makes
it such a great content.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Now it's good stuff. Now this job at the Rugby Union, well,
well where are we going with that? If you put
your application in as is that going?

Speaker 10 (40:09):
Well?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
What's happening?

Speaker 21 (40:11):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (40:11):
Absolutely yes, CV being does is off thrown and no,
it's a It's a.

Speaker 15 (40:16):
Tough gig, isn't it. It's one of those jobs.

Speaker 13 (40:18):
If you're the All Blacks head coach, you can you
want a World Cup and you're a hero. You don't
and you're not, of course, but you want a World
Cup in your hero. I don't think many people hero
the poor old envied ursy. They've just got to bag
away at this thing for months and months and months,
all the hard yards, getting none of the credit and.

Speaker 15 (40:40):
Get all of the criticism. So and it's a tough
you know, it's a tough.

Speaker 13 (40:44):
Gig, given where the game's at and where we.

Speaker 15 (40:48):
Want to be.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
But you're the men to the job.

Speaker 15 (40:50):
One, thank you, Mike.

Speaker 13 (40:52):
It's free to kind of you to say so. But
I think this place here it's hard to suck somebody
out of Crusaders. It's a pretty special place.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I reckon that's true. All right, Well, nicely dodged. If
you're dodging, I don't know. Colin Mainsbrod, who is the
CEO of the Crusaders. They will say had Greg Foruran
lined up, which I thought was not. It was that
struck me as one of those articles where we just
picked a few random names of people who might be
looking for work.

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Pasky eleven twenty four A time now to mark the week.
Little piece of news and current events that's as accurate
as a three wood into the eighteenth in a playoff,
Ryan Fox nine living the dream by winning it really
gets better and another chance of course at the Big
one this weekend. Are New Zealand Inc. Seven got a
real mojo roll on this week. I thought the tourism cash,
the field days, the teacher numbers, the food and fiber numbers,

(42:41):
the wall deal, the elector bops stats. This seems a
decent choice of good stuff to talk about this week.
Greta Thunburg two so not kidnapped after all, really just
fantastically annoying. She's a good example of where your annoyingness
outweighs your effect on your course. Liquid Glass four. I
mean disappointment of the week. Tech reveals ain't what they

(43:02):
once were are they? I mean we may have reached
peak tech, or at least peak tech stuff. Adrian four.

Speaker 21 (43:07):
Yeah, that's a statement.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Local disappointment of the week, both her and the bank,
and they're petty mucking around over simple questions. When it's
petty at the top leads nowhere productive. They should be embarrassed.
The Warriors eight can't stop winning. Another two points this weekend,
of course with the Buyer, two more after that with
the Panthers. This is the journey to the Promised Land.
This is exactly ten point tie breaks.

Speaker 13 (43:33):
Four.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
You cannot be serious.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
At a major after five hours with greatness unfolding, you
wrap it up like that. It's everything that's wrong with
the modern world. Are the big move nine? I mean
numbers don't lie the exodus south, the move to Christy,
it's the move out of Auckland. What you thought was happening,
did happen? Is happening. Lemont eight one of my sport's
greatest races with Bamber, Hartley and Dixon. Not bad for

(43:58):
a small country. We will talk to Brendan Shortley Los
Angeles Three? Was that an overreaction looking for a skirmisher?
What I mean? You can only show us an intersection
of a few hundred mass tryhards and pretend it's a
thing for so long. Business isn't franchise? Are seven record
sales selling businesses like hotcakes? That's got to be a
good sign for the confidence the Super Rugby playoffs seven.

(44:21):
Hard to see it not being crusaders Chiefs. Next week,
what do you reckon? That's the week? Copies on the
website and the World Bank this week indicated they expect
marking the week to grow four point one percent in
the next for school quarter. Asking Mike, you love christ Church?
You say you love christ Church so much, you talk
about it. How come you haven't moved there? Talkers Chip, Look,
you're embarrassing me. You're embarrassing me because you ask a
very sensible, if not obvious question. And that believe me,

(44:44):
this has been discussed again in the household this week.
My sister in law, who I love deally, who was
in christ Church, called my wife a sucker Bubba. She said,
you're a soucker Bubba. And she said the only reason
you haven't moved to christ Church is because you're a
quote unquote souker babba.

Speaker 10 (45:01):
Not me.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
She was referring to other people, and so it sort
of tugged at me. This week. I see it happening.
I see others enjoying.

Speaker 11 (45:10):
Who wears the pants, who holds the purse string.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
A little bit of that little bit of that was
going on this week.

Speaker 11 (45:16):
Just blindly does what he's told because he doesn't want
to get in trouble.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
She's been sick all week. Her words to me as
she got better yesterday were, of all the useless people
I dealt with, you are the most useless. That's how
that conbo ended last night, as when he went to sleep.
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Speaker 14 (46:03):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
I've been watching the build up so far this week.
It looks sunny and warm and exciting. Are you enjoying it?

Speaker 23 (46:11):
Yeah, so far, so good.

Speaker 14 (46:13):
It has been warm. There was a bit of a
thunders on the morn this morning, and you can never
count out a bit of rain here. I think every
year i've come here for the last felve years, there's
been rain at some point.

Speaker 21 (46:25):
But yeah, we're in good shape.

Speaker 14 (46:26):
I've got hyper Pole coming up, which is the session
that will set the field for the race. We're not
that confident they we're going to be fighting for poposition.
I think we're focused on our race car. I think
others have a car that can unlock more potential in
one lap, but on long run pace, we've looked competitive.
We're in the mix.

Speaker 21 (46:46):
We've topped a few of the sessions.

Speaker 14 (46:49):
So yeah, there's a big twenty four hour race ahead
to try and get through and execute, to try and
stand on that top step.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
What is the value of preparation? How much time in
the car do you actually get and the weather conditions,
in other words, preparing for every eventuality or because of
what the race is, you can't.

Speaker 14 (47:09):
I mean a lot of the preperation has gone on
over the last twelve months, more less since Arated finished
last year. So we do simulator sessions, we do thirty
six hour test sessions. We basically test the car for
thirty six hours straight. Yeah, so we come here pretty prepared.
We're all experienced drivers, incredibly experience team arguably the most
experienced drivers and team. So yeah, a lot of that

(47:31):
prep's done. And then as of the race week, we
started testing already on Sunday. Let's say there's more or
less five to six hours of testing over three three days,
and that's split pretty equally between the drivers. So yeah,
we're all pretty prepared going in, but s the.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Other teams, how do you balance that up? That's such
an interesting point. See, I'm looking at some of the
names from Jensen, Button and Schumacher and Magnuson. You know,
some people with some serious if one experience, for example,
is are you better prepared because you do this all
the time as opposed to some of these drivers who
come in periodically.

Speaker 14 (48:07):
None of the drivers you mentioned coming periodically, so they're
all full season drivers, so that I think there's maybe
only one, I feel in the field that might be
here only.

Speaker 10 (48:16):
For this race.

Speaker 14 (48:18):
So the whole grids, other than a couple of cars
which do the American Championship under the same rule set,
they are all full time drivers. They're all every single
driver in the field in our category. So there's twenty
one cars in the hypercar category. They're all paid professionals,
top class drivers, and I would argue there's you can't

(48:40):
find a race and anywhere in the world where you
have so many of the world stop drivers all in
one place.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
That's exactly time. Does the if one thing make any difference?
If you've been an F one, does that qualify you
better than any other form of racing or not?

Speaker 21 (48:55):
Really, it definitely helps.

Speaker 14 (48:59):
In general, you've if you've derived from the if you've
arrived in form of the one that normally for good
reason that you've you've proved yourself in junior formulas and
you've you've earned the credibility to take one of those
twenty seats. So generally speaking, yes, but it is it is.
It is a different form of motorsport that requires a
different type of mentality and experience. But that being said,

(49:20):
to drive the cars as quickly as possible are on
the track at all set required.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
That the same at your level in your cars. What's happened,
to explain to people who aren't officionadis what's happened in
the last few years. I mean, the field is stacked
now with manufacturers that your category seems to have taken off.

Speaker 21 (49:38):
Yeah, it's unreal.

Speaker 14 (49:39):
So you know, five six years ago, you could argue
that there was even less than five six years you
could argue that we were more or less racing ourselves.
But during that time were we were still pushing and preparing,
knowing that this this wave of competition was coming. And
now it's it's a true golden era of endurance racing.
There's always been incredible compet at the front, but there's

(50:01):
never been the depth that there is now when you've
got you know the likes of Ferrari, Porsche, Aston, Mard
and Persia, Cadillac helping.

Speaker 22 (50:13):
I'm sure I've missed some.

Speaker 14 (50:14):
And on top we've got Genesis McLaren Ford coming over
the next two years, so it's it's stacked. They're all
professional teams manufacturers. There's also privateer teams that take on
some of the manufacturers cars as well. So yeah, it's
incredibly competitive. I think your question was actually how and
why there's been a rule set change. It's made it
more affordable, it's made it more interesting, an interesting platform

(50:37):
for manufacturers to develop their their road car technologies, and
we're just you know, expose their brand and racing, and
there's there's no bigger race and Lamar arguably you could
say you know eighty five hundred and Lamar. Maybe you
know some of the Formula One races as well, but
Lamar is it's a special event and all the manufacturers
want to be here.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Bamba Dixon and you you've got any time for the
New Zealand side of the equational? Do you all stick
in your own garage and own caravans.

Speaker 14 (51:06):
I'm just I'm just questioning if Scott's here.

Speaker 21 (51:08):
I haven't seen him, but you might.

Speaker 10 (51:12):
Was he might.

Speaker 21 (51:15):
I'm just thinking about it. I haven't seen him if
he was in the.

Speaker 14 (51:18):
Town and when I race against him. But look, we
were all friendly. I see it all quite a bit.
He's in the Cadillac.

Speaker 10 (51:24):
There used to be.

Speaker 14 (51:25):
More New Zion drivers. It depends on the year, you know,
there's there's a few that come in and out of
endurance racing. But yeah, we're all definitely friendly. We all
know that we'll find the flag and we all get
on fantastic.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
And what's what's your vibe given you've done it, given
you've won it, do you can you can you get
a feel for where you're at this year or it'll
just unfold.

Speaker 22 (51:49):
That's that's the big question.

Speaker 14 (51:50):
And everyone keeps asking and a lot of people ask
about expectation that you can't really ever expect anything. We've
got a goal where we want to win. That's that's
no question on that. We missed out the last two years.
We're fighting for victory up until the last hours where.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Its slipped away.

Speaker 14 (52:06):
That that that pain runs deep, and everyone's very fired
up to go for victory. Not going to be easy.
It's a very tight field. We believe Ferrari might have
a slight advantage advantage which is annoying, but won the
last two years right behind them, it's pretty much everyone
in a tight pack. I think our teams are best

(52:26):
at executing races, and I'm lucky to have two incredible teammates,
so I'm positive we have a really good chance to
take victory, but there's a lot of things that we
have to to do before we can even think about that.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
That top steps all right, mate, we'll go well, we'll
be watching how good to catch up to Brindan Hartley
who's with the toy Gazu Racing team and of course
three time winner of Lemon this weekend and on the
motor Racing Front IF one in Canada this weekend as
well sixteen to.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Two the Mike Asking Breakers Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Now you his talks at be Mike. How old is
Brendan Hartley speak? Gretton Ellis is very clearly explained to
Year's Lovely Guy. Brennan did a lot of time for him. Madison,
Illinois is where the Indy cars are this weekend, which
means Scott isn't there, which is interesting because he isn't
one of the teams and can't remember which one, but
they got to swap play. They must be swapping drivers
out depending on circumstances because I can't Also remember, was

(53:21):
that Van Dorn and Drugovic who were potential fillains for
Lance Stroll in the f one for Austin Martin have
Stroll didn't turn up because he packed his big sad
in the garage a couple of weeks ago. So they
were in Lemon, but if they had to go to Montreal,
they were going to go to Montreal. So there's a
lot of you know Shappe says, no wonder they hadn't
seen Scott in the Paddock because he's not there. Booming

(53:42):
population Mike, stable, property market, new stadium, anchor projects delivered.
When we hold Jerry brownly to account for this recovery
success despite the mown as he faced. We don't want
Auckland as moving to christ Jurich. Auckland has moved to
Tower and ruined it. I haven't heard that argument since
what nineteen eighty eight. That is such an old world argument.

(54:03):
Ackland does moving. There's forty thousand already have It's too late.
Forty thousand have already parked themselves. Mike, the Blues again.

Speaker 11 (54:11):
We still do not want them toy. I mean, I
think that's completely understandable.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
The Blues are going to beat the Crusaders and go
on to win Super Rugby. I noted that text. There
is no name associated with it. Hey, put your name
with you, put your name with your mouth is Mike
Christ You to be Wellington one well managed with foresight,
the other mind and idealism, socialism and backwards in every way.
Hard to argue with that. To be fair, Mike, I'm
an architecture in Auckland and the industry stuffed. I gave

(54:35):
that step before they reckoned the head of the Architecture
Group said there's the downtur in the likes of which
they have not seen in fifty years. No work all year, Mike,
Our daughter just graduated Masters and Architecture with distinction. Well done,
awarded one of top four students in New Zealand. Currently
working for a top architectural practice in Auckland as an
intern for free. We won't be able to keep our creative,

(54:58):
talented minds here consider in Sydney and why not heartbreaking?
What I do know, I mean, I take your point.
You're probably right, sadly, but what I can say is
if you really are gifted, and your daughter clearly is,
you will always get work, and there will always be
work because there are always people who want to hire
really really clever people. Now to the fun stat. I

(55:19):
don't know if it's fun, but the stat how many
houses one of the most oft used phrases in housing
is architecturally designed? Isn't it architectually designed house? What percentage
of houses are architecturally designed? What percentage? Just pick a number,
give me number, Sam Quick seven Glenn.

Speaker 11 (55:38):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
No architecturally designed, specifically architecturally designed, and.

Speaker 11 (55:43):
Surely an architect has to design the house.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
No, no, they don't. So give me a number apart
from so you say one hundred, yeah, one hundred and
you say seven. There's a gap between those two numbers.
More in a moment.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Tend to wait the Mike Casting Breakfast with Vida Retirement
Communities News togs dead be.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Given away from my good news for New Zealand and
New Zealand Fashion Week is back. Canceled of course last
year because of economic uncertainty. They having day three year
deal with Giltrap. As in the car people. Parrosali is
New Zealand Fashion Week's owner and he's back with us
for is morning, Good morning, Mike, How are you very well?
Thank you congratulations on putting this thing together given last year,

(56:23):
how shaky was it?

Speaker 23 (56:26):
It was very shaky. But I took your words as
inspiration of whether we'll return back this here and we
have and we are very proud of having Guilt Trap
as our presenting partners and for its continued support over
the next three years.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Fantastic. What level of enthusiasm is there within the fashion industry?
Are you back the way you were before? Is it
scale down? What's it looked like?

Speaker 23 (56:53):
Exponential? Is the word I'll use. We have a very packed,
full schedule for five days. You will see emerging designers,
new designers, designers that have probably not shown for fifteen
years returning back to the runway and the event. And

(57:13):
the credit goes out to Liam and Dan and Murray
and their whole team for pulling what I would call
is going to be an amazing show this year.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Who do you aim it at? Is it a public thing?
Is it an industry thing? Is it both?

Speaker 21 (57:30):
You know what?

Speaker 23 (57:30):
It's a celebration of fashion, fashion industry in New Zealand
and it's actually this year is going to be a
bit of a hybrid. There is a consumer facing element
driving traffic to the designer's stores and the online platforms,
and a trade element to it, showcasing the New Zealand
brands to delegates that will be traveling from abroad that'll
be able to scale their businesses and take the products

(57:53):
outside New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Well, I'm super excited for you. Well well done for
hanging in there, and they're well done the Guild traps
for putting it together, helping out and so New Zealand
Fashion Week lives for at least another three years. Ferrozzali,
who is the owner of New Zealand Fashion Week. It
is four minutes away from eight pasking Mike, Glenn's onto it.
The name architect is not well protected, you said, architecturally designed.
They all are if you meant designed by a registered architect,

(58:19):
probably a third point. So let's give well, let's give
that to Glenn. Mike. Do you keep Glenn around to
make you look really clever? I think the answer to
that's fairly obvious, and I've.

Speaker 11 (58:30):
Really had to lie on my standards lately too to
make you that to work.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
The answer is six. No, it's not sorry. The answer
is four four percent of homes are designed by registered architects.

Speaker 11 (58:42):
So where do the plans come from?

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Computer? I reckon, I'll tell you this for nothing. I
could invite my build around Ian and I'd open him
a PIRONI and I'd go, Ian, I want to build
a house, and you go, absolutely no problem. And he'd
ask me for a pen and a ruler, and we're
draw up a house. And as long as he could
then prove that when he built it wouldn't fall down,
and in fact it was sixty meters or less these days,

(59:06):
is at seventy meters or left they're going to. We
wouldn't even need to go to get CCC. We put
it up in our backyard and that's our house. And
it wasn't designed by an architect. It was designed by
Mike and Ian and that's how it works. And so therefore,
if you go to, for example, I don't know, a
Big Gj's or something like that.

Speaker 11 (59:21):
You know, I'm not saying that every house is an
original plan.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
But or somewhere along the way, somewhere that was touched
by an architect. Yeah, is what you're saying. I don't
really want to argue with.

Speaker 11 (59:34):
You, and I'm going to keep saying stupid stuff to
make you look smarter.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
But I think the more you say, the more you
say that, the more I want to agree with you. Actually,
But we'll see where this goes. It's just I need
a friend after the stuff I've been happening at home
this week. That's all. I just Yah.

Speaker 11 (59:50):
She's never going to make you look smart as she knows.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
No, that is a lot of people, a lot of people,
a lot of people this week. See they saw some
photos of us together and they went, gee, you're boxing Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Got to the bottom of it. Most plans are drawn
by draftsmen. It'll be the drafts people with who are
not as It's like being to the nurse of the doctor.
It's the pharmacist of the nurse's.

Speaker 10 (01:00:27):
Assistant.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
At first, you know whatever this is with the universe?
Little bit like David Bowie, He's going to Newly Bowie
sounds a little bit about we know. It's Jarvis Cocker
for Pulp. The last album they did was supposed to
be allegedly their last. Obviously it wasn't. Hence they produced

(01:00:51):
this album which is called More, which is sort of
like I if I hadn't told that school, you'd go,
what a weird name for an helpman? But now it
all makes sense. Eleven songs and a smidjov of fifty minutes,
fifteen minutes and twenty one seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
To Beat for Source, The Week in Review with two degrees,
Fighting for Fair for Kiwi Business and Wilson Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
To you, Good morning, Mike, and a lot of anticipation
over the arrival of Kate hooksby very good Morning. Good
Morning seemed to be something. Yeh, little nasal.

Speaker 18 (01:01:25):
I'm the best I've been all week.

Speaker 10 (01:01:26):
I feel good.

Speaker 18 (01:01:26):
I'm on the men's I'm fighting back.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Thank goodness for them just a little the way.

Speaker 24 (01:01:30):
But can I just say no fighting now? Look, I
know this is an ongoing installment of marriage counseling on
the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It's the odd couple.

Speaker 24 (01:01:38):
It's a Bogan and Marino and a beautiful wise woman.
But we can get to a good place.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (01:01:43):
Okay, just a little.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Bit of concerns from the management that you weren't going
to show Katie because you're so over me.

Speaker 25 (01:01:49):
Oh no, I'm a professional.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
I would never let thee What I just said is
what I just said to Jason. He said this could
be a pivotal moment for the program. I said, no,
she's a professional, and no matter how dark it's been
this week at home, she'll show.

Speaker 24 (01:02:04):
What was the quote from twenty to eight, the most
useless of all the useless people.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
That a lot of nameless things that had happened to
me this week. This is Katie talking about all the
useless things that happened. You were the most uselessness.

Speaker 25 (01:02:17):
Because usually I can cope with the fact that you
just work every how that God sends and you work
all day and you just completely checked out, And usually
can cope with that because I'm busy and I'm doing
my own thing. But when you're sick, you're really needy,
and you're really around and you're just kind of on
a sofa in your pjs, and you just kind of
you just checked out, and you're like I could literally
be dead by now, like, hello, I need I need something.

Speaker 14 (01:02:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
But so but by the end of last night, you'd
added up, she said to me Tim just before she
went to sleep. She said, I've just been adding up
in my mind what you did do, what I did do,
and it was and it was enough, she said, it
was enough, yes, to think that I was being a

(01:03:04):
little bit harsh. And then because she's all buggy, she
came and kissed me, kissed me all over, and I said.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
No, no, that's lovely.

Speaker 25 (01:03:14):
This is he's really jerm phobic, so like I couldn't
even want too a room without him going no, no, no,
go away, go away, because you didn't want to get sick,
and you just want to snuggle. You just want someone
to like rubb you exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:03:27):
This is great.

Speaker 24 (01:03:28):
This is great, guys, This is progressed. This is not
letting the sun go down on an argument. I'm confident here.
I think you guys can work it out. You know
the other you know, the other famous germaphobe who Donald Trump,
very Donald Trump is a huge do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
And it's funny you were onto this one about Tuesday, Kadie,
as you lay there prostrate and going, oh my god,
I'm going to die. You blamed and it was this
time last week we were talking about it. You blamed
the radio Awards, and it is I hadn't been aware
of this, but there are lots of people around here
who aren't here because they're ill, and it is now
being seen. And I'm going to get Michael Baker on

(01:04:06):
after eight point thirty along with Helen Patusa's Clark to confirm,
to confirm it was indeed a super spreader event, super
spreader event.

Speaker 25 (01:04:16):
This is why I don't go out. This is why
being an introvert works, because the minute you socialize and
you go out into big crowded rooms, it's all over over.

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
Couldn't agree more.

Speaker 24 (01:04:25):
But this is but you've got you've got to work
up your you know, your antivirus stuff. You're immune, thank you, Mike. Yeah, yeah,
So you've got to get out in about it.

Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
Bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Can I play a little pop quiz game because I
played the architecture game before and Glenn ruined it by
bringing logic to the argument and it was no freact
and it was no fun. So here's another thing. And
this is not to take away in any way, shape
or form from what has happened this morning with the
air crash in India, because that's a tragedy obviously, but
we were talking with this one survivor, seat eleven A.

(01:04:54):
I said, that must be the only time in the
history of aviation that a major plane has gone down
and one person survived, a singular person has survived. I
ask you this question before the break, Tim how many
plane crashes do you think there have been major airline crashes,
not little plans with two people? Major aline crashes? Have
there been where there's only been one so everyone killed,
one survivor how many do you think they've been? Think

(01:05:16):
about that, Katie, same question for you. Second question for you, Katie,
And this will make it extra fun. Do we do
we or do we not? And you can't google this
during the break? Okay, do we or do we not?
Make hosiary in this country? I say no more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Colin, very good. Colin texts, he goes it was obviously
going to be a super spreader event. Marcus was Crook
on the radio the day before and he said, didn't
he did when he won his award, I said, I
lost my boys.

Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
There's nobody more at touching, merely the markers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
And that was it. From a singular two thousand people
in the room, Marcus, spirit everywhere all over the place. Right, Okay,
let's go back to this, Tim, did you promise me
hand on heart you didn't google any answers?

Speaker 24 (01:06:14):
No, No, I didn't. I've got a question though, from when,
so the advent of Ada.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Let's go from the aviation, from the time aviation just
just generally okay, okaycond second question, do we include nine
to eleven?

Speaker 12 (01:06:28):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
That's deliberate, that's an accident.

Speaker 24 (01:06:30):
Okay, that's all right, all right, Okay, I'm going to
go for seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Seventeen times a plane has crashed with only one survivor.

Speaker 25 (01:06:39):
Katie, jeez, I would say a little bit less than that,
but not by much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
What would you say? Maybe just under ten, less than ten.
Less than ten would be nine, Just under ten would
be nine.

Speaker 10 (01:06:50):
Let's say nine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Okay, let's say nine. See why aren't you agreeing with
me and saying it's never happened before? I mean, think
about the odds a plane crashes into the ground, two
hundred people plus on board, and there's a singular survival.
What are the odds of that? I would have thought
the odds of that are millions to one. And yet,
and yet, Katie, you are dangerously close to being right.
Oh yeah, it's actually this is the fourteenth time.

Speaker 24 (01:07:13):
Making everyone happy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
How hard can this be? This is good times. This
is the fourteenth time that a major aligns crashed with
only a singular survivor, which I would have thought the
odds of that happening as right? Hosiary, Katie? Yes or no?
Do we make it here or not? I think we
do do we?

Speaker 25 (01:07:29):
I think I think we had since a long time time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Since a long time ago.

Speaker 25 (01:07:33):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I think we do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Where do we make it?

Speaker 10 (01:07:37):
Oh gosh, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Give it a go. I'm going to say a great
answer to him, well done. That's sort of the industrial
heart was.

Speaker 25 (01:07:45):
One because it's in Christ Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
No, it's just because it was sort of the industrial
heartland of Christ. You could have gone Woolston, Rickitten, you
could have gone into Addington sydonym but Rickitt and g
guess you're wrong, of course. Okay, Katie, your your guess.
We're in New Zealand and it's the only place where
in New Zealand do we make the pantyhose.

Speaker 25 (01:08:16):
I've got no idea.

Speaker 24 (01:08:18):
I feel like this then is running out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Fading is not a bad guess because the answers gisbon.

Speaker 10 (01:08:30):
No, how bad awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
And so they're closing down now and forty four they've
been making hose re since nineteen fifty one. They're about
to close in August. Forty five jobs are going to
be gone. My question to you, kid is who wears
posary now in Jenum?

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I don't, so don't let me silly, No, Glenn, that's
only a rumor. Glenn, stop it. Do people still wear hosary?

Speaker 25 (01:09:00):
Yeah, stockings and tights. I mean kids were tights to school.
Girls girls were tights to school every day in winter.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
But the stocking, the woman's stocking. Do you still see
stocking stockings? Yes, with boots and skirts.

Speaker 25 (01:09:14):
Of course, you're not going to wear legs.

Speaker 24 (01:09:16):
Because it's cold, particularly if you're if you're going to
move down to christ Church. Was down there last week?
The three degrees on Saturday morning? You were there, You're
going to be wearing what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
You were there on Saturday morning? Absolutely? Did you go
to the market in Casual Street?

Speaker 17 (01:09:32):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:09:33):
I know, Oh yeah, yah, yeah, I've got I've got
a few on the boil firm, but I'm going to
be an intermediary and take seven percent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
So christ were you in and did you honestly, hand
on heart, didn't you stand there in the middle of
it and go tell you what I could live here?

Speaker 10 (01:09:51):
You know? Okay?

Speaker 24 (01:09:52):
So I was out by the airport and I went
went from the Commodore rn you got it, Commodore in
there is there's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Not a piece of christ Hi. I don't know at
the commodore and where the fabulous sign is with the circles,
looks like an Air Force thing. It looks like.

Speaker 24 (01:10:09):
It's been run by the Patterson brothers for years, the family. Yep,
yep about christ Church. It's the tradition. It's so, it's generational.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
It's fantastic. There you go. You see, Katie, how hard
can it be? You're sucker Bubba that's what your sister
called it.

Speaker 25 (01:10:28):
After after a week of having a cold and feeling cold.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
I from all sides, exactly do you think this is true?
I want to say it's true. The text justin and
I think it is true. Actually, Alan Houston, you remember
the name Alan Houston T.

Speaker 10 (01:10:45):
Yeah, sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Katie, I don't all black. I don't know that is
that's right now. He wore panty hose, yeah, I think
he did. I think he did famously when when he
was playing, just to cover that off when he was playing.

Speaker 24 (01:11:02):
Can I can I just say, if you guys do
move to christ ch KDI, you're going to get rinsed
by the locals for being an Aucklander.

Speaker 11 (01:11:08):
So I was down there.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
Safe because he's made such a big thing of it.

Speaker 10 (01:11:11):
I can't go now.

Speaker 23 (01:11:12):
Because people I'll get people will eat me in the streets.

Speaker 24 (01:11:15):
Oh, here's here's the deal. I was saying, Oh, it's
a bit chilly down here, but the family tell me
it's chili up in Auckland. The response was, oh, what
is it? Eighteen degrees exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Quick question? How they burn you? Quick question. I'm sitting
in front of Katie. I'm sitting in front of probably
I've counted it roughly, probably either thirty six or forty
eight sun gold Kiwi fruit right, So I should bring
those home. I was going to give them to the people,
the friends, my friends here at work.

Speaker 11 (01:11:42):
You can eat all of them before someone start going off,
can you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I don't know what they're all going to Glenn?

Speaker 10 (01:11:47):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Well that all the beer went to Glenn. We got
some beer the other day and Glenn stole all that
and took it home. And I'll come to that in
a moment. But shall I bring home some Kiwi fruit
gold for you? Some sun gold?

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Okay?

Speaker 14 (01:11:58):
Nice?

Speaker 10 (01:11:59):
This is it. It gives them away?

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Can I give them away?

Speaker 10 (01:12:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:12:02):
Because you should be seen to be a nice person
at work.

Speaker 8 (01:12:05):
That's the main thing.

Speaker 23 (01:12:06):
Eh.

Speaker 24 (01:12:06):
And this is the story of how Sam got half
a Kiwi.

Speaker 25 (01:12:09):
Fruit already starts at home, but as long as you're
a nice.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Person at work, that's a nice way to win the segment.
Lovely to see you, guys, ketchup Nicks Friday eight twenty.

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They just told me Martin Riqi's next Friday. So and
you're going, how is it you're that out of touch
with the world. And these are good questions, the very
fair questions. But apparently next weekend as next Friday as
a holiday, Martin Riki, And that means we won't be here,
which means that sim and Katy won't be here on Friday.
They'll be here on Thursday. Is that right? Is that

(01:13:26):
how this program works?

Speaker 10 (01:13:27):
Will? There?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
You go, there's going to be an election in Tasmania
and I'm gripped by it because for a moment there
and I talked to Steve about it on Wednesday, but
we'll talk to Mary about it next. The governor general,
so the guy who was running Tasmania, Rockcliffe. So there's
a big scrap about salmon farming, big scrap about a stadium.
Who imagine having the scrap about a stadium. What a
weird place. Anyway, they had this. He was a minority government.

(01:13:51):
They had a vote of no confidence. They won the
vote of no confidence, which means the Premier had to
go to the Governor General instead of the Governor General going,
no problem at all, I guess we'll have an election.
She went, hmm, let me think about this for a
few days, and then she did think about it for
a few days, and then came to the inevitable conclusion,
notwithstanding the recent twenty twenty four election, the public interest
in avoiding the cost of another election, and the prevailing

(01:14:12):
public mood against holding an election, I have granted Premier
Rockcliffe a dissolution. Who excellency said, so, they're off to
another of Barbara Bakers who name thereof, to an election
on July the nineteenth. The interesting thing being since Tasmania
last had a local election, they've had a federal election,
and in the federal election the Labor Party went gangbusters

(01:14:34):
and the Liberal Party completely and utterly fell apart. The
point being Rockcliffe is from the Liberal Party. He was
the second, only one of only two in Australia who
was actually a Liberal Party premier, so he might be
toast as well. But Murray Olds's with us on this
after the News, which is next, You're on the Mike
Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
News opinion and everything in between.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
News togs had been alluded.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
To this towards the start of the program. So I'm
sorry it's taken so long for me to get there.
It's just the weirdest thing. So QUINNIPIACU do polling in America.
They're a major polling company in America. They've decided to
poll Elond musk as though it sort of means anything,
and it can't work out why his favorability ratings declined much,
which causes no surprise. Thirty percent of Americans have a
favorable opinion of them, only thirty and among Republicans at

(01:15:34):
sixty two. I suppose that's moderately interesting that that number
is so high, given what's happened. I don't know, but
when you're polling car deal as, something's gone wrong. Twenty
three minutes away from.

Speaker 17 (01:15:45):
Nine International correspondence with ends in eye Insurance Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Salsman Murray, how are you good morning, Mike?

Speaker 10 (01:15:54):
Pretty well? Thank you pretty well? After a busy week,
this augest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Yes, so we had a former defense minister on and
I can't look out. Why you guys are so exercised
about it. My guess because the UK reviewed August and
they came back and said, fantastic, let's get into it,
let's go big time. This is all brilliant my suggestion,
as Trump's probably going to do exactly the same, and
it's game on and you just review stuff because you knew,
and that's what you do. It's no reason to panic,
is it.

Speaker 10 (01:16:18):
Well, look what.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
I mean, all the evidence from Trump's second term so
far just shows this erratic guy who decides makes up
stuff on the morning and it's executed in the afternoon.
I mean, who I mean, Look that you just mentioned
that poll about mask. Australians were polled earlier this year
after you trust Trump? Well, no, we trust you know
President she you were president putin more than Trump.

Speaker 10 (01:16:41):
Is the Australia more secure under Trump?

Speaker 8 (01:16:43):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:16:43):
Majority said absolutely not. So yeah, okay, let's have a.

Speaker 8 (01:16:47):
Review in America and the Hawk leading that's his hang on.
We need these subs for ourselves. The Australian governments at
this point Mike has said, oh no, no, look it's fine.
Of course we expected this. We knew all about the review,
but there's no need for to continue along that path.
We don't need to review the deal. Most Australians are
saying to them this morning, are you kidding? Paul Keating says,

(01:17:09):
for goodness sake, use this as an excuse to scrap
this stupid submarine deal.

Speaker 10 (01:17:14):
Four hundred billion.

Speaker 8 (01:17:15):
Dollars between now and the never never, we're going to
get three secondhand subs if America decides to give us
three second hand subs for some exorbitant sum by the
mid twenty thirties, and then the rest of it to
be built between then and twenty sixty. They're saying here
this morning, stop it, Paul Kitting, Malcolm Turnbull, I know
these are the opposition side. Scott Morrison, who signed the deal, says, oh,

(01:17:39):
absolutely wonderful, absolutely wonderful. A lot of hardheads here are
saying the defense department in this country is absolutely stupid,
out of its depth, completely out of its depth. What
about looking at alternatives, What about looking at developing a
missile capability in Australia, a drone capacity in Australia. What
about having some sort of iron dome over the port

(01:18:00):
of Darwin for goodness sake, that was given away to China.

Speaker 10 (01:18:04):
Some reason, I do it. I'm twenty sixteen.

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
Why are you going to spend money on submarines that
may never arrive, packed with technology that may be out
of date when they finally do get here?

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Interesting? Actually, I've just found it. I was looking frantically
while you were talking the Pure Research people this week. Globally,
no one has a stronger distaste for Trump than Australia
seventy one percent of Australian's unfavorable opinion. You look at
the Swedes at seventy nine, they're the only worse one.
Swedes are worse. But even Canada it's only sixty four

(01:18:34):
versus your seventy one, Mexico sixty nine, Britain forty nine.

Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
Right, you hate him, but if you look at the guy,
you think, what are you doing?

Speaker 10 (01:18:43):
What's your overall plan?

Speaker 8 (01:18:45):
And a lot of people here are saying he doesn't
seem to have one, He doesn't just makes it up
as he goes along.

Speaker 15 (01:18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Well, if you followed Los Angeles this week, I mean
that's been a joke. The whole thing's been a joke.
You ninety one percent of you guys think he's arrogant,
which I mean, and eighty one percent he's dangerous.

Speaker 10 (01:19:02):
But one of the other nine percent think.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
This Tasmania thing. I know that no one gives the
monkeys about Tasmania and all that sort of stuff, but
it's interesting to me because since the last election, you've
had a federal election and Labor's done particularly well and
rock Cliffe is a liberal. Is he going to get
toasted or is it a local vote and if he
deserves it he will get back or is it sort
of a nationwide movement?

Speaker 10 (01:19:27):
Well, yeah, good questions.

Speaker 8 (01:19:29):
Look, I think as it sits right now, Labor would
have a good chance of forming government in Tasmania. Don't
forget Rockliffe runs the only liberal government anywhere in Australia,
anywhere in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Can you up on that? What about Christophuller?

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
Well, Christophuller? Yeah, but everyone says, I hang on a second,
he's Labor light.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Okay, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 (01:19:51):
Up there with people.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
Like Matt Canavan and other you know, really hardcore nationals,
they don't even rate this guy, Christoph Fooley. But look,
I accept that he's a liberal in name, but Tasmania, yes,
I mean, you know it's it is a little basket
case economy down there. There's only a parliament of thirty
five seats from memory, and you know the extent to

(01:20:13):
which it's in debt, enormous debt. It was the guy
in Dickens, was it Macawber? Incomings and outgoings. They've got
an income of about ten billion dollars a year, spend expenditure
around eleven.

Speaker 10 (01:20:24):
Or twelve billion plus.

Speaker 8 (01:20:26):
They've got this giant albatross of a football stadium that's
settled around their next they have to pay a billion
dollars and they won't get a football team. I mean,
New Zealand and football, we get it right, Tasmanians and
their AFL footy, they love it. But do they want
to spend billion dollars in a stadium this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Elbow thing with US big summit to boost the economy?
Is that the sort of move you should make as
a guy who allegedly has been around for three years
and should have a few ideas as to what the
if not the economy is actually already moving. I mean,
what's it? What's this about? Apart from the talk fast Well.

Speaker 10 (01:20:59):
Maybe it's a talkfest, but don't forget.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
I remember vividly March nineteen eighty three, Bob Hawk gets
in beats Malcolm Fraser. The first thing he does is said,
right for having a summit meeting and a cord between
the unions, employers and the government. We're going to stop
all this nonsense with union strikes and what you know.
I mean, you remember the days at Christmas beer strike,
you know strike, Grandma can't get the you know, the

(01:21:21):
Christmas cards from the kids. So, to this extent, maybe
Alban Easiest channeling Bob Hawk.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
First, the first term of.

Speaker 8 (01:21:28):
The Labor government was to maybe get on top of
inflation and try and get interest rates down. They've got
that to a certain extent. Productivity is dead in the
water over here. The Australian workforce isn't producing enough quick enough,
notwithstanding all the immigration we've got pouring in. So what
Alban Easy I think, is trying to set the stage

(01:21:49):
for to get employer groups over here who are screening
for better productivity, get unions on board as well. Say
this is the common the common path we all have
to follow. Let's get cracking. This is in August. Maybe
it will end up being a big talk. First but
I think he's trying to channel Bob or that's my takeaway.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
I note this week I'm reading that it's in how
the property market became Millionaire's Ride. You realize you've cracked
a million on average around the whole of the country.
Now it's not just Sydney Melbourne. The average house of
a price of a house is a million inaccessible million
bucks in Australia.

Speaker 8 (01:22:23):
Well that's just dreadful because guess what the average income
in Australia is somewhere south of eighty thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
I mean, if you've got a property, you are miles
in front. If you're a young person training into the market, buddy,
good luck unless mum and dad a millionaires.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Exactly how a mushroom woman go? Did she cover a.

Speaker 10 (01:22:42):
Soul of well? Make porky pies everywhere?

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
If you believe the prosecution, I mean he was in
the stand for eight days making stuff up. From a distance,
it looked like he's making as they go along. The
prosecutor absolutely forensic. I would hate to be grilled by
that woman. My goodness, she just tore strips off her
every the mounts he's hang on a second.

Speaker 10 (01:23:02):
You said you.

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
Never forage, You've never ever went out in the bush
looking for mushrooms.

Speaker 10 (01:23:06):
Well, hang on, what about this? Oh oh I did,
that's right? Or I did?

Speaker 8 (01:23:09):
You said you never owned a food dehydrated You've actually
bought one of the way home from getting death cap
mush Oh yeah, I did, I did. So Look it
just looked like an absolute shamozo for this woman, Aaron Pattison.
She's gone there for the witness box and coming days
the jurors are going to hear the selling up from
both sides, prosecution and defense, and then after final instructions
from the judge, the jurors will then be asked to

(01:23:30):
go out and deliberate.

Speaker 10 (01:23:32):
And that's going to be fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
You're a good man, see next week. Appreciate it very much.
Murray's in Australia, those housing prices just in case if
you're one of the tens of thousands thinking of going
to Australia and you know you can buy a house
for three cents. The average is over a million dollars
now in Sydney, one point sixty five, in Melbourne one
point four, in Brisbane a bit over a million, and
that's literally now everywhere in Australia on average is over

(01:23:55):
a million dollars at forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Talks A listen to this. Listen you're ready for this?
This is this. Listens to this. It's a bit disappointing, isn't.
Can you even hear that? Can you hear that?

Speaker 10 (01:24:14):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
The when did we mention this? Was this a week
ago or whatever? So about a week I was talking
about du Bui chocolate and I know nothing about du
buy chocolate apart from the fact that Sammy used to
take Uness and gtr to Takanini in South Auckland to
buy illegal do buy chocolate now, I thought do buy
chocolate foolishly was what you bought in Dubai. But it's not.
It's a thing anyway. You buy it all around the world.

(01:24:37):
And the story I was telling you was everyone in America,
mainly at large retail outlets, is now selling Dubai chocolate.
People have gone and gone off about Dubai chocolate.

Speaker 11 (01:24:47):
It's a fair to say that it's the new Biscoff,
you know how like everything it was biscoff flavored for
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Yeah, okay, I don't even know what biscof is. Oh whoa,
So wait for the textbas I never had any do
by chocolate. I don't know what biscoff is. Anyway, Glenn
chipped in, not unlike you just did then, and he went, oh,
they make a lovely do buy a chocolate stout? And
I went to do and who was it? It was
lake House lake Man. Anyway, it smells it's going to

(01:25:17):
go badly. So they some of this beer and Glenn
stole it all and took it home. Because this is
the sort of beery drinks. I'm going to give you
a stat in the moment on beer, just to freak
you out. And I said I'd taste it. And my
problem with it is one I don't drink stout. Two
I don't I have never had to buy chocolate. Therefore,
I couldn't tell you whether this has do By chocolate

(01:25:37):
in it.

Speaker 11 (01:25:38):
Or what's what's the most significant note tasting good question?
Do buy chocolate?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Biscoff's disgusting.

Speaker 11 (01:25:51):
The clue is, see see the little chocolate lake Man
on the front of the king. See that his little highlights?
What color are they?

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
They're green? Yeah, is it cannabis?

Speaker 11 (01:26:00):
No, it's pistachio.

Speaker 12 (01:26:03):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Okay, now, now you tell me that I think I can.
I think I can taste pistacio, but I'm not sure.
I bought a Tom Dixon candle once and it was
called London, and I thought, this can't smell like London,
because what does London smell like? And then I lit
it and I went, that's London. So I'm easily suggested.

Speaker 11 (01:26:26):
Do you want something that smell like London?

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Well, yeah, no, I did in the end, but I
don't know if it's but anyway, that is not me.

Speaker 10 (01:26:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Fun fact about beer. Next year they think non alcoholic
beer will out sell ale globally.

Speaker 11 (01:26:41):
What's the alcohol counting on there?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Zero?

Speaker 11 (01:26:43):
No, I'm the lake Man.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Oh but however, I told you. I told you that
the don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:26:52):
The lake Man shed where they originally brew the stuff
is in the middle of a working sheep and beef farm.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Eight point five. Does that sound right?

Speaker 11 (01:27:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Eight point five that's a lot.

Speaker 10 (01:27:03):
That's yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:27:04):
So if you finish the ken, I can't drive.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Home over home, Yeah, I can't drive home anyway.

Speaker 11 (01:27:08):
It's smoother as you go along.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
So let me come back on the Beer Stats in
just a moment eight minutes away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
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Speaker 11 (01:28:43):
That is disappointed. That's the most disappointing thing I've heard today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
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Speaker 20 (01:29:04):
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Speaker 11 (01:29:29):
You have a right to defend yourself.

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That is if one this weekend, Lamond this weekend looking
after a sick wife this weekend? What could possibly go wrong?
And we will see you from six o'clock on Monday,
as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
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