Full Show Podcast: 13 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trust at Home for News for Its entertainment's opinion
and Mike the mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate,
your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news togs,
d Be Jomingham, welcome today.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The health Minister and his ideas to meet targets. We've
got a new study that shows the kid's vaute. We've
got massive trouble, new numbers that show how much coal
we're burning to keep the lights on. Hamish Kerr who
jumps over bars really well stopped by for a word.
Richard Arnold does the States? Tim and Katie do the
week and we had to Australia with Kieran then building
asking welcome to Friday, seven past six. Question for you,

(00:34):
is it possible one of the great mistakes of the
modern era has been made around our cities these and
I think are increasing times or areas of life in
which the theory, the promise, the dream is not only
not coming to pass, but it's possible it never will.
See the EB industry globally as in a major state
of flux at the moment. Any number of large producers
have not only promised to stop selling engines, by twenty

(00:55):
thirty ish, they now rely well, they've now realized, of
course that's not real, so they've had to back track.
But they've also realized that all the money they didn't
spend on the next generation of engines has been lost
and they now have to fill the gap renewables. We'll
talk about this this morning. They're in a similar place.
Larry Allison this week told investors AI is so crazy
when it comes to power consumption. There at Oracle now

(01:15):
building a data center that will be run by three
small nuclear reactors. Now the world largely doesn't have such
reactors right now, and it certainly doesn't have the renewable
capability to run such data centers. And then to downtown
New Zealand. Reform of city centers was predicated on several theories. Essentially, essentially,
we wanted to save the planet while living like Europe.
What we've ended up with is Downtown Auckland, Downtown TOWERNGA,

(01:39):
Downtown Wellington, all, if not destroyed, certainly in a state
no one's proud of. As the bike lane's, bus lanes,
lack of parking is taking its toll. The businesses have closed,
the people have gone home, never to come back, The
mulls are popped up in suburbia and the CBD has
shot to pieces. We weren't like Europe. We aren't Europe
never will be. Do we live in an age where
the concept of the illusion of what could be, driven

(02:00):
by the bandwagon of the day, something the idea logs
leap on board with no real insight as to what
might actually be required for it to come to pass,
driven of course by good intention but appalling planning urged
on by NGOs and the like. You need a buzz
phrase or an agenda to keep them well, keep pushing
to maintain relevance of indeed not funding people who want
to be on the perceived right side of the hot
new trend. And it all comes at a huge cost

(02:22):
these downtown areas of tomorrow. Just when is tomorrow? When
is Wellington going to be the pedestrian magnet, the cobbled hub?
When does Auckland wear itself out with all the new
outlets opening in Queen Street. When does twong A cut
its umpteenth ribbon on the mecha that is the revitalized
CBD drawing fans from near and far. Or was it

(02:43):
simply a good picture on a whiteboard that will never
in fact happen.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
God truth this morning that if you get a shed
load of money and you already own some cars and
some houses, you can buy a good time in space.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Don't get hold we all have a lot of work.
Perfect world.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
If you can't afford a spacewalk and you're still stuck
on Ryan here, you might have sympathy for the bloke
who runs it and the issues he's got with the
piss hits.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
How do we stop these people engaging, you know, getting
drunk at airports, particularly when this as this summer, we've
had a huge spike up in air traffic control release.
They're getting on board with too much alcohol in their system.
If we identify them as being drunk on board, we
won't serve them alcohol.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
While we're broadly in that part of the world, the
central bankers might be their second cash right cant But
we now have a question mark as to what comes next.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
And yes, okay, there's a question mark around the growth
recovery in the Arizona. But actually what I think what
the mark is really really looking forward to now is
the course through to the end of the year, and
I think that's a little less a little less certain.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
At this point.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
And then, like Shane Ready parol Kia, he's got a
bunch of problems with the health system, but he has,
like Shane, a plan.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
The ants may be in a critical condition.

Speaker 6 (03:56):
But it's vital.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Science are strong, and we need to have the courage to.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Deliver long term reform, major surgery, not sticking clasters.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's a genius, isn't he.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Shane is with us, by the way, After seven o'clock,
then an American Americas in the attorney generals come forth
with reassurances about the DOJ.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
And the election.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
There is not one rule for friends and another for foes,
one rule for the powerful and another for the powerless,
one rule for the rich and another for the poor.
One rule for Democrats and another for Republicans.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
He isn't to Springfield, is he?

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Now? Speaking of Springfield, Ohio? Nathan Clark's son was killed
in the road accident. Try to happen to be a
Haitian immigrant that turned sensationally political at the highest of liberlsism.
I'm sure hero were so. Once again, there's been the
simple plea.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
My son, Aiden Clark, was not murdered. He was accidentally
killed by an immigrant from Haiti. This tragedy has felt
all over this community, the state, and even the nation.
But don't spin this towards hate and that.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
News of the world.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
In ninety quickly on the ECB, they led their growth
rate for that particular part of the world from zero
point nine to zero point eight. Are not committed to
a path forward, so they don't know where they're at
on that. Microsoft, by the way, in the world of
gaming Xbox, they're laying off six hundred and fifty jobs.
I thought Xbox was hot. Clearly not so. Six hundred
and fifty jobs gone from Xbox.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
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Speaker 2 (05:30):
ZIP speaking of Kieran his health system, big call from
the Labor Party. They've confirmed overnight that they will be
implementing a bang on junk food advertising. You will not
be able to advertise fish and chips, burgers, KFC or
any of the sort before nine o'clock at night as
of October of next year. So that's about childhood obesity.
Of course, it'll have major implications revenue wise for a
run television, radio and media generally, I would have thought

(05:52):
fifteen past.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Six stream of speaks JMI.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well Friday morning, Andrew Callah, good morning, very good morning, man.
Let's talk of indexes or in disease or so what
have we got?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Lots of numbers, lots of numbers.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
So look, it seems to me, Mike that central bankers
you're just talking about this all around the world are
now sort of leaning towards being more reactive to data
than proactive. So they want to see data rather than
sort of anticipating it because the last few years have
been quite extraordinary in terms of sort of economic moves,
so the high levels of uncertainty. So right now any
read on inflation anywhere is important. So we only get

(06:26):
that full CPI print every three months, we get quarterly.

Speaker 10 (06:30):
But now we do get these this partial data.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
On a monthly basis in the form of what are
called the selected price indexes, so that covers forty five percent,
roughly forty five percent of the CPI basket, very much
sort of buyas towards the tradable inflation products, not the
problematics or non tradable stuff. So we're in Q three now,
we've had July we've had August, so we've got two
months of this.

Speaker 10 (06:52):
Partial data, so we're starting to get a reasonable picture.

Speaker 11 (06:54):
Now.

Speaker 9 (06:54):
If we look at August, food prices are up zero
point two percent in the month. They're up zero point
four percent year and a year, so we've almost got
no food inflation. And food is about twenty percent of
their CPI. Rents they rose zero point three percent. They're
up four point three percent year in a year. That's
just under ten percent of the CPI basket. So that's

(07:15):
still too high. If you sort of look at the
whole the whole mix, the whole million year, now, alcohol
and tobacco they're unchanged. They're about seven percent of the
CPI in total. There's a few other.

Speaker 10 (07:25):
Things in there as well as airfares and all this
stuff in totally.

Speaker 9 (07:28):
If you look at all of them, these prices rose
zero point three percent for the month. Now, the overall theme,
if you try and distill it all down, the overall
theme is one of an inflation path that continues to moderate.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
Inflation is falling.

Speaker 9 (07:41):
Now we get that third quarter CPI release on the
sixteenth of October, so it's still a few weeks away.
The next rban zaid ocr review though is on the
ninth October, so they won't have that third quarter number.
They're forecasting now that inflation for the third quarter will
be zero point eight percent. They dropped that inflation at
the last month through policy statement. They're putting annual inflation

(08:02):
at two point three. So the data we're seeing at
the moment, you know, things like this selected price and
next indicate that the number will be in that ballpark
will be around zero point eight. So your annual inflation
is going to be well within the one to three
percent range and actually very close to the two percent
now midpoint. So the question the RB's got is can
that be They've got to say, can is that sustainable?

Speaker 10 (08:24):
So that's what they've got to satisfying themselves on that.

Speaker 9 (08:26):
But at the moment, conditions to me seem very consistent
with the need to continue to reduce the official cashret
from that what is pretty restrictive five and a quarter.

Speaker 10 (08:36):
They've got to get it.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Low exactly, and part of that mix, of course is
spending and generally speaking was still a bit flat.

Speaker 9 (08:42):
Well, yeah, so inflation is moderating the total electronic card
transactions released, yes, so they show that we're still not
really spending gratular money. For the month of August, total
electronic car transaction fell zero point two percent, then down
zero point nine percent year, and you remember they're not
adjusted for inflation. The retail component of that total count.

Speaker 10 (09:02):
Spending went up a little bit.

Speaker 9 (09:03):
Retail spending increased zero point two, the core stuff zero
point four.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
The total number brings in services and non.

Speaker 9 (09:10):
Retail as well, but it's fair to say that household
spending as well. It's muted, it's subdued. You put your
own soggy adjective in there. August August actually also brought
in that tax change, because that came into effect on
July thirty one. That did put a little bit of
extra money in people's pockets, but we didn't really see it. Look,
durable spending picked up slightly, but it's still well below

(09:31):
the monthly levels we.

Speaker 10 (09:32):
Saw back in twenty twenty two twenty twenty three.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
Apparel picked up as well, but it's coming from very
weak levels. Hospitality spending was down, motor vehicle spending was down.

Speaker 10 (09:42):
It seems to me there's.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
Still pretty good evidence that households continuing to prioritize spending. Look,
it was positive that the month saw a small increase,
but I don't think there's any real cause for celebration
just yet.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was a quick word on oil, given it's been
a talk of the week.

Speaker 11 (09:57):
It has been.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
Look, it strifted up tightly overnight. What's going on here?
Demand side concerns, Mike. The key factor this week was
that OPEK cut their forecast for all the demands. Who've
got fears of the slowing US economy, fears of slowing
Chinese economy. That's all suppressing demand. So this is a
demand side issue. It's gone up a little bit overnight,
but still well below where it was, you know, when
it was over eighty bucks a barrel.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
Some numbers on me yep.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
So we're closing the week out in quite positive fashion, Mike.
The Dow Jones up one hundred and fifty points as
we look at it, forty one thy twelve, the S
and P five hundred up forty five points, just under
the five thousand, six hundred and five five to nine eight,
and then Nazdak up over one percent one hundred and
eighty five points seventeen thousand, five hundred and eighty overnight,
the forty one hundred gained point five seven percent eight

(10:43):
two four oh. The nick Ay was stormed up one thousand,
two hundred and thirteen points.

Speaker 10 (10:49):
That's three point four percent.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
Game thirty six thousand, eight hundred and thirty three Shanghai
Composite was down five the The Aussies gained one point
one percent, up eighty eight points eight or seven five.
The NZX fifty had a storming day yesterday, might storming
up one hundred and eighty seven points one point four
nine percent. It's the highest we've seen it since the
beginning of twenty twenty two. It's a twelve eight hundred

(11:10):
and twenty that's all good. Kiwi dollar points six one
seven one against the US point nine one eighty six,
Ousie point five to five eight one euro point four
to seven one oh against the pound eighty seven point
seventy nine Japanese en gold two thousand, five hundred and
fifty two US dollars on Brent crud seventy two dollars
and thirteen cents.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
I enjoyed the week. You have a good one. See
you next week. Andrew callaher JMI Wealth Dodge code art
en Z scotely laying them off at Xbox Sony, though
they've upgraded their version of the PlayStation five. It's the
pro It'll go on sale November seven in America at
seven hundred of the dollars. Faster rendering, AI driven up
scaling sounds so exciting. They've sold two point four million

(11:48):
of them. Is that good? Not really, because previously in
the last quarter they sold three point three so they
need to do something about sales. Six twenty one.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
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Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm on a sort of Kear Starmer theme this morning.
They're looking to ban evicting tenants for no particular reasons.
Let the Labor Party all over the world go to
a sort of a what do labor governments do by
way of policy school, because we had the same thing
here under the previous government. It's a Renter's Rights Bill,
is what they've called it, introduced to Parliament this week.
It's banned on no fault evictions you can't do it,

(12:28):
a ban on bidding wars, and they're going to prevent
landlords from blocking tenants on benefits and children so you
can't be biased.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
In other words, you know, the government.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Will tell you, as the owner of the house, how
you run your property.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
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Speaker 2 (12:44):
Well, today is your day. We have for you the
final ever Grand Tour Clarkson, Hammond and May. They've been
outspreaking the event in Britain. A revelation of sorts. How
much of the stuff that blows up or goes wrong
is planned versus accidental.

Speaker 11 (12:58):
We're finished now, so there's not I can say it.
We always used to plan things to happen on these
specialty goers, and but you'd hope that organic things would happen.

Speaker 10 (13:08):
Which nearly always did, which always did.

Speaker 11 (13:10):
And we just decided with Zimbabwe to not plan anything.
And by and large it's just us three bumbling along
in those three really rather wonderful cars across Zimbabwe.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
And here is the beauty of having worked together for
so long.

Speaker 12 (13:24):
And you reach a point where if we're three on
camera and something happens, you do sort of instinctively know, oh,
that's a Jeremy thing.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm gonna let him run with that, and then I'll
chip in with the little line.

Speaker 12 (13:33):
Oh James that's going to infuriate James, and I know
Jerrem is going to point that out.

Speaker 10 (13:37):
So there's a kind of short read each other.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You don't have to.

Speaker 11 (13:40):
Yeah, you don't have to script it because it happens automatically.
I can walk up to Hammond or May actually anytime
the day or not, and if I say something, I
could write down exactly what they're going to say back.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
It's like being married, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
No, it's well worth watching the whole video down on
Amazon Prime today. As I mentioned last week, I happened
to have seen it. I got an advanced copy maze
in it, and it's brilliant is too strong a word,
because if you've seen all the Grand Tours, if you're
a fan, it's formulaic. They do the same thing again,
but there is at the end, Towards the end, there

(14:15):
are some just glorious moments triumph stag for May not
that this really matters. Hammond's got a Ford Capri and
Clacson's got a beautiful care If you've never seen a
Lancier Monte Carlo, that's well.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Worth looking at.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
But they seem to have fallen in love with Zimbabwe visually,
which was interesting because as I looked at it, I thought,
I don't know what you're seeing. Be that as it may. Anyway,
that's out to night. Bit of weekend viewing for you.
By the way, my favorite stat and we'll talk about
coal in a moment and running the power system. There's
been a fifty percent increase in wind capacity, but coal

(14:48):
out generated it still. So what's that tell you about
the renewable story? More after the News, which is next here.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
It is beautiful days. It of.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Newspeakers and the personalities of the big names talk to like
casting Breakfast with a Veta, retirement communities, Life your Way,
news Tog said, be.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Mike, I've got to stop making the kids breakfast and
pay more attention to the show. Good text. Couldn't agree more, Mike.
How many bands have had a final final comeback? I
think Grand Tour.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Will be back.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I don't think so. I'll be surprised to take the bet.
I looked at them yesterday and I heard all the
commentary over the character.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
They're done.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They're sort of over it. Apart from anything else, it's
sort of run its course. If you watch the final
over the weekend, you'll see it's run its course, there's
only so many times that three older guys can jump
in three cars and sort of watch them fall apart
and blow up and break down in semi interesting parts
of the world.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Tell a few gags before you go.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
I think we've seen this before, Mike, renewables are not
reliables because they can't supply the requireables. That's not bad.
Let me come into that in just a couple of moments.
Karen Gilbert's with us after eight thirty this morning. There's
been a couple of really interesting things happen in Australia
this week. If we get time, we'll talk about the
rejig of It's amazing how similar New Zealand and Australia.
They're rejigging the education curriculum because they, too, like us,

(16:03):
are failing appallingly. They finally worked out they are and
are doing something about us. But yesterday Richard Marles, who
was the Defense Minister, stripped the medals of commanding officers.
What's semi interesting about that is we don't know who
they are in stripping their medals. They are not individually
and personally accused of doing anything wrong in the Afghanistan war.

(16:25):
But it all comes out of the Brereton Report. The
Breton Report looks into the way the military from Australia
behaved in that war and they found some shocking behavior
and somebody had to pay the price. So that's unfolded yesterday.
But also in Australia, and this dovetails and with Richard
Ardel will be with us in a moment. I'm very
pleased to see how many people watch the debate. So

(16:46):
a lot of channels ran it in Australia. We don't
seem to be interested in ratings on television here anymore,
we don't report that stuff. But in Australia, the ABC
channel seven, channel nine ranet they quote those numbers along
with I know CNN runs in Australia of course, along
with Sky Sky ran it as well. For the main
channels ABC seven and nine, they collected over two million viewers.
Now remember this is eleven o'clock in the morning Australian time.

(17:07):
So to get on any given night a million will
get you number one. So if you get a million
viewers in Australia, normally it's the news bulletin that'll get
you to the number one spot. So to get over
two million in fact well in excess of two million
for an eleven o'clock program indicates that people are genuinely
engaged in the US race, which is encouraging to hear.
Twenty one to seven ask these renewables and this report

(17:29):
out yesterday, what a disgrace it comes to us from NB,
and there surely has to be and we're working on
something and I'll present it to you next week. The
Labour Party former Labor government argument is this gas problem
is not a problem because there is no gas. The
fact that we're not looking for it doesn't really matter
because even if we were looking for it, we wouldn't

(17:50):
find any or so they say, is that true. I'm
increasingly of the belief it isn't. And if it isn't,
they need to be held to account anyway. So NB
give us these numbers. We are relying more than ever
on coal and gas and why is that? Because we
have no gas, so more coal comes into the country.
So the renewables number sits at eighty one point three

(18:13):
percent of total generation that is renewables. It's still high.
We're one of the highest renewable operators in the world,
but it is a six an eight point six percent
decline from the same period last year, the most startling
figure released for the first time since June of twenty one.
Despite a fifty percent increase in wind capacity, coal generated

(18:36):
more electricity than wind. How insane is that everyone agrees
we need renewables. Everyone agrees renewables are fantastic. It's just
we haven't got there yet, and in the meantime, we
can't keep the lights on and people are losing their jobs.
Coal based electricity generation increased to eight hundred and eighty
three giga hours. Is that good compared to one hundred

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and forty four giga hour, So that's an exponential increase.
Natural gas increased forty four percent in the same quarter.
Net production at the same time of gas is down
nineteen percent. Geothermal was the highest on record for a
quarterly basis made up nineteen percent of total generation. We
are says the Energy Resources aretro of People's Basically, the

(19:21):
system is lurching from one crisis to another, and it
all stems from the fact that doesn't rain can't be controlled.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Not our fault.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
We're not getting enough gas can be controlled is entirely
our fault, and we need to do something about it.
So We'll continue with this discussion next week. Let's go
to the States in a moment nineteen two the Mic.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
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Speaker 2 (19:46):
A b fun fact of the week for me was
James L. Jones, who died a couple of days ago.
Of course they refer to him as the voice, and
I hadn't thought about it this way, but at the
one hundred percent correct, he was, of course the voice
of Darth Vade. Who wasn't the act of the actor
was a guy called David perhaps, not that you ever
knew that, because he was obviously in costume. Anyway, James L.
Jones to voice Darth Vader got paid guess what, seven
thousand bucks. He thought at the time it was a

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fair price.

Speaker 13 (20:08):
Sixteen two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Richard, I are very good morning to you. What do you, Mike?
Very pretty pictures, were they?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (20:20):
But before that, sixty seven million debate watches in this country,
So that's approaching Seinfeld finale numbers back in the day.
Because we don't know who were in that number of
how many cats and dogs were watching.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
That is true.

Speaker 12 (20:34):
However, Yes, space history made today with the first all
civilian space walk. This was funded by a tech billionaire,
Jared Isaacman, who has declined to say but this space
tourism cost, but the mission on an Elon Musk SpaceX
capsule is likely to have talied into the hundreds of
millions of dollars. Isaacman went up as part of a
four person Polaris mission. The other three on board were

(20:56):
a retired Air Force colonel and two women, including a
SpaceX engineer, Sarah Gillis, who also went out on the spacewalk.
She left the spacecraft for about seven minutes. Isaac was
out there for ten. The space pod does not have
a pressurized airlocks, so all four had to wear their
trimmed down new spacesuits and all were exposed to vacuum
conditions and.

Speaker 14 (21:16):
The hatch is open.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Before he left, Isaacman, who went into space once before,
said of his latest space jort.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
And we're doing things that haven't been done in half
a century, and the idea hopefully as we learn a
lot from it.

Speaker 12 (21:31):
Well, it has been a while since the last man
flight to this orbital altitude that was fourteen hundred kilometers
up from the Earth. Last time humans were up this
high was the last Apollo mission mission in nineteen seventy two.
We're talking three times higher than the International Space Station.
The Dragon capsule now has been repressurized. Leak tests have
been done before they resumed normal operations, But when they

(21:54):
went back into the capsule, the returning SpaceX engineer Sarah
Gillis said she could see bulges on the hatch. Wouldn't
worry about that, said her colleagues on the ground, Just
you know, push them back in there. Meantime, if others
out there have several hundred million dollars for a seven
minute spacewalk, just messages you know at elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Exactly, so kel. How about are the fires?

Speaker 12 (22:15):
Oh gosh, the mountain areas around Los Angeles are being
hit by the worst bushfires we've had in years and years.
Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated, including a
number of my friends. The first fire that erupted is
only eighteen percent contained at the minute. They have thirty
one hundred firefighters attacking on that line, twenty one helicopters
dropping water and fire retardant on the flames there. So

(22:36):
far it is proving extremely difficult to make much progress
because the weather has been very, very hot and windy.
Dozens of homes have been lost, thirteen people injured, says
one evacuee. Of the circumstances there.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
We packed up the kids and got out of there.
Not a couple hours later we heard our house. It's
just leveled.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
Horrible.

Speaker 12 (22:55):
These are areas where I go hiking as well.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
It is just so distressing.

Speaker 12 (22:59):
The groundcoverers can grow back in maybe two or three years,
the trees maybe twenty years, maybe never for some species.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
As one man, I'm angry, I'm set, yeah, b too,
really distraught over this.

Speaker 12 (23:10):
The biggest flower was arson. It was begun they say,
by a thirty four year old man, justin Holstenberg. We
don't know yet how they track down this suspect. The
man is being held on eighty thousand dollars bail. To
my mind, that is simply not enough.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, but good week.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
He Richard Arnold stateside just before we leave there by
the way, the California Attorney General, it's going to be
a thing. Guy called Bonta. Doesn't really matter. It was anyway,
cautioned executives. That's a big tech you know, the usual suspects.
He wrote to Alphabet Meta, Microsoft, OpenAI, read it TikTok
x YouTube. Basically, it came out of Taylor Swift, who
was busy criticizing the AI generated thing that the Trump

(23:47):
camp ran that suggested she was somehow endorsing him. So
he's quoting sections of California law that prohibit interference with
voting rights by misleading people about voting place and time
and using intimidate tactics all that sort. So basically he's
yet again reminding big tech to try and behave themselves. Meantime,
there are forty two state attorneys general who want a

(24:09):
Surgeon general warning on social media apps. And this came
the Surgeon General himself wrote a scathing op ed in
The New York Times back in June. Dura drew a
direct comparison between the apps to cancer causing cigarettes. Twenty
nineteen American Medical Association studies showed teens who spent three
hours a day on social media double their risk of depression.

(24:31):
So all of these attorneys general, of course it's bipartisan,
have all written they say they want some sort of
warning on because such as the danger and then we
come and let me come back to it in just
a couple of moments. This weird business, or is it
of Springfield eleven Away from seven.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Tom said, be no, it's away from seven to Urik
Hiller is the other one in America who made news
this weekend. Dolphins, Miami Dolphins. Of course in the NFL
they play the Bills today. Funnily enough, anyway, he got
pulled out of his car. He has some regrets, so
we've got the full detail here what happened, and this
is the body cam thing. The best point he made
was one that his regret as he didn't wind down
the window. They pulled him over, They said open your window.

(25:13):
He didn't do it, so that's on him. So they
then opened his door and dragged him out in the
rest's history. What he couldn't believe, and I don't think
anyone can in America, is how these guys keep pulling
guys out of cars, then sitting on them while filming them,
and knowing they are filming, knowing.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
That this was going to blow up.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
So anyway, he's called and his lawyers have called for
the individual to be sacked, so we'll see whether that happens.
Just back to Springfield, Ohio. Here's what's wrong with one
the nutters, but two also the mainstream media. So obviously
there are no cats and dogs being eaten by Haitians, right,
But where that started was twofold. The main one was

(25:54):
there was a woman who was found with a cat.
Now the mainstream media covered that yesterday, but they stopped
the story when they said she wasn't Haitian. She still
had a cat. So that's where a story comes from.
Second part, Springfield has a population of fifty six and
this is where the base of the story starts. So

(26:15):
you start with a true story and then it explodes
out to the weird world of the nutjobs. Springfield has
a population, who knew, of fifty six to fifty seven
thousand people. It's a tiny place. There are fifteen thousand
new arrivals from Haiti, so the population suddenly exponentially has
exploded with Haitians. Now everyone seems to agree that that's

(26:38):
not good for the community. It puts stress on resources.
There's nowhere for them to go, and a small town
of fifty six to fifty seven thousand people with suddenly
fifteen thousand arriving. It's not Los Angeles, it's not New York.
It's Springfield. Fifty six to fifty seven thousand people suddenly
got fifteen thousand Haitians arriving. What else is going to happen?
But angst and upset from the answer. So that's a

(27:00):
genuine problem and a genuine story, and that's part of
the immigration story in America, and that's why it is
the number one issue during the election campaign. So that's real.
Then enter the nutters who then talk about the dogs
and the cats, and there was some video of some
weirdos saying there were ducks being pulled out of the
pond and the park and all, and then it goes nuts.

(27:22):
But at its essence, as is so often the case,
is actually a real problem that once the nutters get
hold of it is never really addressed.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
And then that is the shame.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Five minutes away from seven, all.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
The ins and the outs, it's the fizz with business favor.
Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Right, set jetting, no, not jet setting. Set jetting biggest
travel trend at the moment. Apparently it's going on holiday
to visit famous landmarks and sets and backdrops for TV shows.
Very big impact in European tourism in the UK. Last year,
London estimated to have brought in over twenty six million
dollars through various TV tours, which include the Pile Row
Tour of London by Black Cab, You've got The Killing
of your Self guided audio too, You've got the ted

(28:04):
Lasso Tour of Richmond.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
One of the biggest places to see an increase Draighton
House in Northamptonshire. What was Drayton House in Saltburn? And
since that movie's release, visitor numbers are up six hundred percent.
It's also been revealed seventy percent of UK tourists have
gone on a trip in the last decade to visit
a film location or TV set, seventy percent Outside of

(28:26):
the UK. Nothing's bigger than Game of Thrones. There are
more than one hundred and seven themed Game of Thrones
tours in Europe generated about one hundred million dollars in revenue.
Dubrovnik easily benefited the most tours based on the show,
contributed ninety eight point eight percent of the country's total
income from TV tourism. They then did a top six

(28:49):
list of the most influential shows as far as TV
slash film tourism goes. They are let's as always start
at sex because we don't want to give away the
big one peaky bind us. Who would have called that?
If I said to you, what's the sixth biggest TV two?
Who would have gone peaky blindness?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
No One. Bridgeton is Bridgeston?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
About the set? I don't even know that I'd recognize
the set of bridget and Emily in Paris. I assume
it's in Paris, down to aavy for obvious reasons. Beautiful house, Outlander,
Scottish Islands. And of course number one is a Game
of Thrones.

Speaker 15 (29:23):
I remember Hobbiton doesn't get on there anywhere, hobbit No,
this is in uk ah okay.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Because they said what was the number they said for
Lord of the Rings. It was some ridiculous number that
came to this country based in some way, shape or
form on this Middle Earth idea.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
So it does work.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It is really right Shane Retty, how close to fixing
the health system is he? We'll ask him directly after
the news, which is next.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
The breakfast show?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
You can trust the mic Hosking breakfast with the Jaguar
f base cut from a different clath News togs EDB seven.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So the Health Minister filled in the blanks yesterday as
to how he's going to deliver the targets he set
out for the system back in March. More workers Bad's
theaters are on the way. Community and fusion centers are
also planned, allowing chemotherapy to take place closer to home.
Shane Retty is with this a very good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (30:15):
Now, good mind, Mike good.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
A couple of.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Things in the news this morning. The GP Owners' Association
are going to the ComCom They're arguing Health New Zealand
dictates contracts. Do they have a case do you reckon
or not? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (30:28):
I missed with them yesterday and we chatted about this. Look,
the Commerce Commission will determine that that this has been
standard policy for a number of years. Is nothing new
to happen. Negotiating around this year has happened, So we'll
see what the Commerce Commission makes of it. Well, I
won't sort of interfere in that process, but we had
a good discussion around that yesterday.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Is there any way around it? I mean that the
public health. It's where there is no competition. You hand
out the money. The money is the money, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (30:56):
There is competition the marketplace. People choose who they want
to have a general practitioner, and there are other alternative
models to general practice. So there is a market for
primary care. But the issue here is whether the contracting
has effectively been in good faith or they're fundamentally told
this is what it is, and so that's what they're
taking to Commerce Commission.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Another thing that concerned me this week was the Indian
High Commission in Wellington who was warning nurses about coming
to New Zealand and they shouldn't unless they've got a
genuine job offer. And this debtails into more staff. How
is it there issuing warnings when we need nurses but
we're not hiring nurses and we're inundated with people from
overseas who can't.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Get a job.

Speaker 14 (31:35):
Look, that's partly true, and I did see this well,
but let's also remember we've got New Zealand graduates who
are still looking to find places. And I would make
the case that we do need to find a place
for our domestic pipeline, and so what we're seeing in
discussions we're having and I've been having with Nursing Council,
is the number of internationally qualified nurse application to fallen
away significantly, And so the High Commissioner has indicated to them, look,

(31:58):
you need to know you need to have a job offer,
got out a surety before you go through the process
and you leave home and come and do the oski
and all the things you need to do and make
sure you do have a job offer. But I would
say I am committed to making sure our graduates are
able to find a place high priority.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
One of the things you said yesterday which surprised me,
is you're going to have discharge seven days a week?
Is health not seven days a week?

Speaker 14 (32:19):
Yeah, I know it's a surprise, isn't it. That's correct
that there are some places where they don't do seven
day discharge. So imagine this. Let's say you've got an abcess.
For example, you're getting an intravenous push of antibiotics and
you need one more on the set on Saturday. If
you're not in a dischargeable facility that can discharge on
the Saturday Saturday, you may wait for the ward round

(32:40):
on Monday to be discharged makes no sense time.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
No, it does not.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Takatai tash Camp who I watched in the Parliament yesterday
with the stories of whiteboards and privacy and hallways, how
real is that?

Speaker 16 (32:54):
Sorry?

Speaker 14 (32:54):
Did you say wait?

Speaker 11 (32:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You were there, she was asking you questions in the
house that she's in the corridors, she's been covered by
white boards for privacy. Is that real or not?

Speaker 14 (33:06):
I haven't seen the covering by whiteboards, but I have
seen people in corridors that is correct. And emergency departments
particularly some of those that don't have obviously don't have
enough bears or there is bed block up on the wards.
So yes, as I said to her in the house,
actually I have seen that as well.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
And does that get fixed?

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (33:25):
Absolutely, several things like for example the seven day discharge.
If you can discharge a person from a warpbed, then
you can move someone from ed up into that wardbed.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay, just for clarification, when the Prime Minister says thirty
billion ish in what we spend on health, is enough?

Speaker 10 (33:41):
Is it?

Speaker 16 (33:43):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (33:44):
So this is what the commissioner has said as well.
Having the prime leaders to actually figure out what we
spend and where we spend it. Look, it will never
be enough. No country has enough in health. That's the
nature of things. But for the objectives that we have
and the task that we have in the fiscal conser
straints that we have, as you've heard the Commissioner say,
there was enough for us to deliver a high quality service.

(34:05):
We would always want to do more. Everyone wants to
do more, but deliver a high quality service. The funding
is the highest funding we've had ever in health. Actually,
I wish.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
You a good weekend, appreciate your time. As alway, Shane Rettick,
who's the Health Minister, eleven past seven pascaling related new
research out of Australia on the links between vaping as
a teenager and going on to be a smoker. Survey
of more than fiveenty twelve to seventeen year olds, if
you vape, your five times more likely to end up smoking.
First of its kind study in Australia, says your professor,
Becky Freeman, study supervisor at the University of Sydney is

(34:34):
with us. Becky morning, good morning.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I seen years ago.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
That replacing vaping or tobacco with vaping was going to
lead to this, and I'm no genius. Why didn't more
people see it.

Speaker 17 (34:47):
You know, I think that people were just overly focused
on that this was going to be some sort of
you know, miracle cure for people who were smokers to
switch to vaping and didn't consider that these products would
be marketed to kids, come and flavors that appeal to kids,
and be so widely available and easily accessible.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Do you still subscribe in any way, shape or form
to the sociation tool argument or not?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Really?

Speaker 17 (35:10):
Look, I think there should be a pathway for that
very small number of smokers who've tried everything they can
to quit and under the care and support of a
health professional, can use these products to fully quit. But
that does not mean they should be available in you know,
lolly flavors and sold that petrol stations to twelve year old.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
And the number of kids who do it recreationally as
a percentage, do we have any idea?

Speaker 17 (35:31):
Look, young kids are not are not quitting smoking. You know,
when you're fourteen years old and you see a product
on a shelf that comes in a unicorn sparkly package
and is sold in apple mint flavor, you're not using
that to quit smoking. You're using that because you're curious
and the industry has targeted you, indeed, and.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
We looked to Australia from New Zealand they were going
to crack down on this with some rules and they
backed out of this. Has this been a disappointment and
that will long term cause more problems, do you think
or not?

Speaker 17 (35:57):
Well, what we have in Australia now is all e
cigarettes must be sold in pharmacies from behind the counter.
So we had been pushing for a prescription only system
from pharmacies that you had to have a prescription from
a doctor. That did get watered down to now you
can just purchase it from behind the counter. So it
is a bit disappointing, but we are very grateful that

(36:18):
they will no longer be so available to kids. And
of course the vapes and pharmacies are only going to
come in tobacco and mint flavor. They're no longer these
disposable products that were so cheap and so readily available
to kids. So it's an entirely different product and approach.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Becky, appreciate you getting up early in Australia for us.
Becky Freeman, University of Sydney's supervisor, thirteen minutes past seven.
Osky the problems we could see coming in, yet we
did nothing about it. That reference to the India if
you missed that story, by the way, it should have
got more coverage. But India, the High Commission here was
warning nurses because I remember a couple of weeks ago
I started asking questions around this. They had a job fear.
I think it was an auckland and hundreds literally hundreds

(36:56):
of nurses unemployed turned up looking for work. And you
think yourself, how the hell did they get into the country.
And they got into the country by a visa. Because
you go in India or wherever you happen to be
and you go, well, why are they looking for a
New Zealand job wise? Oh, nurses terrific. I'll apply for
a visa. Sure enough, you get a visa, you turn up,
you look for the jobs. There are none because no
one's hiring. How does that work? Number of Indian nurses

(37:16):
are facing difficulties in securing jobs, no kidding, even though
they may have successfully completed the competency Assessment program, the
CAP and registration with the New Zealand Nursing Council. It's
also advisable, says the Commission, to get the genuineness of
the employer checked by the High Commission.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
That's reputational. I would have thought.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Also warn nurses to refrain from paying agents who promise
guaranteed jobs. Indian nurses and their spouses are requested not
to leave their current jobs until the job process with
the prospective employer in New Zealand has been formalized. How
bad does that make us look?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Fifteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
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Speaker 2 (37:56):
At b I Jump an extraordinary homish care in the
studio for you shortly now seventeen Part seven. Good news,
Amazon MGM are coming to make some movies. The Ricking
Ball is what it's called. It's got Jason Mama Da
Batista teams and fourteen hundred jobs are expected the New
Zealand Film Commission ahead of International Attraction of Marketing. Philippa
Mossman is with us on this Philip Morning.

Speaker 18 (38:15):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
This feels a bit but it feels a bit funny
to me because I've been around long enough to remember
the day when we did this every second Tuesday in
Wellington and it was the greatest thing in the world.
What the hell has happened to the film industry that
this is suddenly news.

Speaker 18 (38:28):
Look, this is a big deal. We've been very busy
in recent years. We've got lots of productions that we
can talk to I can talk to you about this morning.
But it's a really big deal when any international production
has secured for New Zealand. You know, it's a big
spinner and a bit of employer and it's celebrated.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Oh couldn't agree more and I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Have we have we fallen off the radar a bit
with COVID and strikes and stuff like that.

Speaker 18 (38:53):
No, I not really look the stripe the US stripes
were really problematic everywhere in the world. For obviously entirely shutdown.
But you know, working through that long winter, we rebounded
pretty quickly New Zealand and we're currently very buoyant. We've
had productions here in the last couple of years from Disney,

(39:16):
twentieth Century, Warners, lines Gate, you know, the list goes
Non Paramount TV here at Warrington, Blumouse, Warners, Netflix, Apple TV.
You know, lots of production has been going on.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
The text deals still work for.

Speaker 18 (39:27):
Us, the incentives yet this is a cash rebait. They do. Look,
when you think about this international production, from the studios perspective,
from the international executives perspective, before they greet any movie
or TV shows green, they're figuring out all the essential elements,
you know, the riot of the director, of the cast,

(39:47):
the budget, where are we going to shoot? And people
probably know it's in decades and Hollywood movies were shot
mostly in Hollywood, and the reason for that is because
other countries offer incentives. Fifteen years ago, the studio would
budget a couple of places in the US and maybe
can that. And now when they're thinking where in the
world are we going to take this fantastic international production,

(40:08):
they might look at fifteen ten ateen different places. So
the film films we do everything we can to make
sure that one of those places they considers New Zealand.
For over one hundred places in the world offering incentives programs,
it's fiercely compensive global globally, and the reason for that is,
you know, because of the significant benefits that these productions

(40:30):
deliver over a relatively short period of time of a
production being here, a huge injection of foreign money. New
money is made into our country or region or community.
You know, I spent on humans, on jobs and on businesses.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
Exactly. I'm very exciting, still going well, Philip, appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Philip A. Mossman who's with the New Zealand Film Commission.
Mike just had Shane Retty. I continue to be impressed
with the open, acknowledged answers that the Minister is providing
when compared with the abstract ideology spouted by the last government.
It's very good point you make. Bruce Moore on that
in the moment seven twenty.

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Speaker 2 (42:02):
Passkeys a pretty four right time to mark the weak
little piece of news and current events. It's as popular
as a baby reveal party at Dave Grohl's house. Migration three,
we're still leaving in record numbers young New Zealanders deciding
this ain't the place for them. It is a startling
and ongoing indictment. One hundred and twenty K's eight. I'm
not sure why they need to consult on the stuff.

(42:23):
I mean, we've consulted forever, but roads of national significance
should not just be significant, but fast. The yield curve
sex Yeah, not really dinner party chat, but our short
term number is higher than our long term number for
the first time in a while. That's a good thing.
Oil sex now that's a good thing too, because the
price and the dollar it's trending in the right direction

(42:43):
and significantly so fill your boots are the NFL season.

Speaker 10 (42:46):
I can't undo the tree.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I cannotdo.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
It continues to get bigger globally every year. I'm obsessed
with it. It is a leakness at its best. Are
the ird three? Taking our stuff and flicking it off
to Big ten without asking us is dumb and roote
and needs stopping.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Big Tech two Wow. From the Corps of Europe.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
To the Senate inquiry in Australia this week. They continue
to remind us they are a modern day hazard in
too many ways Australian rules three. It's not the sport
governments pretending they can solve problems that haven't been solved
anywhere else in the world. That's wasteful. If Australia successfully
bans kids from social media, I will eat Raweri White
at his hat. David Seymour raight, shit, well, who do
you think I am? Jesus Stoic Operator of the Week

(43:31):
called out the grocery commissioner took on a growing queue
of handwringers who hate democracy over his treaty bill. You
can't mark him down for keeping on fighting his fight.
Adrian Nuys.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Seven.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Now, if you want to study a bloke who brings
genius to his job, he is your man. Michael Barnier
seven The media.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Seven.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
The media covered the one hundred thousand people on the
streets of France last weekend protesting. The polls told you
most French think he's absolutely fine. And that's the difference
between clickbait and the real world. Acc three off, we've
got a one billion dollar fied that gap. It could
be that we're a bit slack, but it doesn't matter.
We'll pass the bill on anyway, try harder. Twenty two

(44:12):
Monaco Drive Hate a house for sale on a racetrack
with a big garage in central Otago with a car
in your lounge and a lift that lifts it there
for you. Come on, Donald Trump too.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
He's his own worst enemy. And that is the week
copies on the website and a third of this was
constructed using our new Chrono working hour so a chunk
of it was produced pre dawn. And I think you
know which bit Tsking, Mike Defato, Ora Taranaki. It's Health
New Zealand are asking employees if they want voluntary redundancies.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Jackie that the problem.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Hereers that people are not understanding those jobs are not frontline,
their back room, their admin pay work people who answer
the phone. The frontline allegedly is not being affected, but
in there also is some Macavelian behavior. I have no
doubt from the Health New Zealand administrators who do not
like what the government is doing, and that is why

(45:13):
less Allevia is they're hopefully tidying it up and sacking
some people.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
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Speaker 2 (45:30):
Three minutes away from a Timmy Cady art throat bring
a farted, of course, justin off truth social Trump says
there will be no further debate, So if you were
holding out hopefully it isn't going to happen. Meantime, there
was one Olympic story that came out of nowhere. For
a lot of us, who was homish care of course,
suddenly seemingly out of no where, we had the sort
of the best high jumper in the world. He was

(45:51):
going to be competing this weekend in Belgium apparently, but
he said, no, bugger, I need to come and see Mike.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
So he has and he's with us.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Very very good morning to you, the boy Mite. I'm
very well and congratulations too on all that's happened to you.
I'm endlessly and I suspect most people are endlessly fascinated
by the high jump, because we all did.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
It at school sports.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
And we started out with the scissors, didn't we, And
then at some point we realized there was no going
any further for us. But you presumably went nut, I
can do more.

Speaker 19 (46:23):
I'm definitely the primary school kid who just kept on going.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And here was it an attraction to you as a sport.

Speaker 19 (46:31):
Not really, you know. I did athletics at a club
at a young age, and high jump was always the
event that I was best at, for sure. But I
think the thing for me was that every year I
just got a little bit more serious as I wanted
to jump higher. So every year I was said, like, okay,
I'm going to jump a new personal best and jump

(46:51):
ten centimes high this year, and to do that, I
kind of just had to be a little bit more
serious about it. So I think over the years I've
sort of just slowly gotten more and more into it,
and then and then obviously the last few years I've
been pretty serious.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
But I can't remember the name of the term. So
do you start with the scissors? What's the one where
you roll forward over?

Speaker 19 (47:09):
That would be called the western.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Role, the western roll.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
So occasionally we got into the Western role because the
height was too high for the scissors.

Speaker 19 (47:15):
How to showing your age, mate?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
How do you transfer? At what point is day one
of the Fosbury Flop?

Speaker 16 (47:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (47:28):
It depends on a lot of things, Like I think
that we all try to do it at some point
when we were really young and don't really do it properly.
But for me, it was when I was about eleven.
I went down to my local athletics club and signed
up and there was a coach there who was able
to help me do the technique properly and ever since then,
that's the main.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Do you remember your first one? I?

Speaker 19 (47:51):
Yeah, I do. Actually I was in year four. It
was actually in the school hall at Mongofo Primary School
and I went over two meters sorry too, I went
over one meter ten and hit my nose against my
knee as I was falling over and I got a
blood nose and I cried. I cried, and that was
my first experience of high.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Jump and next stop a gold medal at the Olympics.
It's not fair at ay. So how professional is the
sport in terms of a living that you can make,
a tour that you can participate in.

Speaker 19 (48:21):
Yeah, it's I mean, look, it's definitely a hard grind,
that's for sure. You don't you don't get into track
and field thinking that you're going to make millions. But
at the same time, when you do sort of start
getting up into the top ranks, there are opportunities. We
obviously earned quite a lot of prize money, you know,
private sponsorship, overseas sponsorship, and then also government funding. So yeah,

(48:42):
we sort of juggle a few different income streams to
make games meets.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Where is it big globally?

Speaker 19 (48:48):
It's big in Europe, so that's where we do most
of our competing for high jump, particularly it's quite big
in Germany and actually through Eastern Europe. I sort of
spend quite a bit of time in the Czech Republic
and Slovaki year and various little places like that, So
it's yeah, it's it's it's definitely takes you to some
interesting places. But there's some people are pretty keen on it.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You're a tall guy, Is that a prerequisite?

Speaker 19 (49:11):
Not really, Like I wouldn't say that there's any short
high jumpers, Like if you're sort of under six foot,
you'll probably probably need to go find another event to
be good at. But yeah, I would definitely be one
of the taller guys. What are your six what I'm
six sex? What are your weigh I'm about eighty Well
at the Olympics I was about eighty two.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
Is that about right?

Speaker 19 (49:27):
So yeah, I mean, look, it's it's always a constant debate, right,
Like I'm one of the heavier high jumpers for sure.
A lot of the other guys would be. You know,
there's a guy that I'm really good friends with, the
Korean who's he'd be probably a couple of centimeters shorter
than me, so maybe one ninety five and weighs sixty
seven kgs. So yeah, that's my way. There's some very

(49:47):
different athletes out there. But I think for me, you know,
the body that I have really works for my technique.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
So what is it? You need?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
My way of power? So if you're if you're slight,
how do you generate the power through your legs to
get up?

Speaker 19 (50:00):
So if you're really slight, so if you're like a
sixty seven kg Gunda guy, you have to run really
fast and in order to you know, to generate that
speed and then converted into upwards momentum. Whereas someone like
me being a little bit heavier, I use my strength,
so I don't run quite as fast, but when I
come into take off, that's when I really generate a
lot of power.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Where's the magic at the takeoff point? So I became
mismerized by this. At the takeoff point, you're up and
it's all timing at that point. It's not necessarily it's
the timing when you go back arch, flick your legs.
That's that's everything, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (50:34):
It is everything once it gets to there. But I
would say the most important thing for me is actually
the curve.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
So that's sort of the as you run it.

Speaker 19 (50:42):
Yeah, it's about the third stride to the last stride,
which is my seventh stride.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Do you know where?

Speaker 16 (50:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, you do know, Yeah, and that's why some of
them pull out and just run underneath or yeah, it
doesn't even look like it's going to happen.

Speaker 19 (50:55):
Yeah yeah, I mean you don't. You don't want to
get into the habit of pulling out of jumps. And
it's not something that we probably do all the time,
but it's definitely you know, you can put your foot
down and and kind of suspect that you're going to
have to try and really do something in the air,
but you can also you can chuck your foot down,
and I did in the final put my foot down
and just go, yep, we're in the right place.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Does it when you're when you're over the back backwards
arching about to kick, does it feel right?

Speaker 16 (51:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean that part of the jump is probably
the most standardized. Like it's it's not something that we
really react to or anything. It's not like we feel
like we're over the bar and then and then cuck
our legs. It's just part of the timing.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Of Wow, that's amazing, isn't it. Has it changed dramatically
since you've been doing it in any way?

Speaker 19 (51:36):
Not really? And I think it's funny. Actually, I came
into the sport, or sort of grew up in the
sport where there was a lot of guys jumping two
meters forty, And since I've actually come into it, no
one's jumped to forty for about ten years now. Yeah,
So so you could say or something, well, I don't know,
I you know, I want to expect, you know, I

(51:58):
suspect the best for those guys. But there was this
time where there was just some amazing jumpers, and I
think now is the time to really sort of cack
on again.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And so we're a peak human. Do you reckon? What's
what's the top number? What's your best?

Speaker 19 (52:10):
So my best is two thirty six.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Which is the interesting thing. You don't you can win
a gold not necessarily jumping too third. You don't have
to jump too thirty six to win a gold because
it was an attrition thing at the Games, which I
find fascinating. So you keep going basically until the other
guy falls over and can't do it anymore.

Speaker 16 (52:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (52:27):
Yeah, I mean it's a it's a brutal sport, that's
for sure. I mean, you can you can be absolutely
dominating the start of the competition and clearing all the
bars first attempt and just looking like your mar's over.
But ultimately it's it's the last jump that counts, and
that's the That's the scary thing is you know, you
do all this power work and then two three hours later,
how do you how to kind of get up for it?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (52:48):
It's two thirty six it or ish for anybody and
we peak human sober.

Speaker 19 (52:54):
So the world record is two forty five, which was
done about twenty five years ago now, so.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
There's something about it that's suspiciously.

Speaker 19 (53:04):
It's quite a Yeah, it's quite a big record, but
I think I think that it's possible, like it's definitely
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Some What would you need to do?

Speaker 11 (53:13):
For me?

Speaker 19 (53:14):
It's just about getting stronger and faster, and that's something
that we really worked on this year, probably the most
we've done of that in my whole career, and that's
why I've done so well. And so I think that,
you know, if I have another four years of that,
then there's no reason why I wouldn't be getting better.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Age. Where does that put them?

Speaker 19 (53:31):
Yeah, well I'm not getting younger, that's for sure.

Speaker 16 (53:33):
Correct.

Speaker 19 (53:34):
Yeah, I think for me so I'm twenty eight now
thirty two would probably be probably be it the back
for me, not the back. A lot of guys have
back of shoes for mancy ankle. We put about ten
times our body weight through our ankle when we take off,
so you can imagine that that it does take a
wee bit of a beating shoes.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
So are you carrying injuries at any given time or
you're pretty clean?

Speaker 19 (53:58):
I mean define injuries right like I think stuff that hurts.
I think I think that every athlete goes into major
events with stuff that hurts. And that's something that we
we deal with constantly. And the way I kind of
look at it is if you you know, if you're
if you're not hurting, you probably haven't trained hard enough.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Good on you. I like the attitude.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Most important questionable why do you wear baggy shorts when
you're going over the back and it's so tight. Why
are the baggy shorts there?

Speaker 19 (54:24):
I have never had a bar come down because shorts,
and I have never seen it happen. So the time
it does happen, I will, I will, I will come
back to you and I will say I don't like it,
but yeah, that's definitely. For me, it's honest, you're.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Good on you.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Are you living your dream?

Speaker 19 (54:39):
Yes, absolutely, it's it's been a whirlwind and I'm just
so so grateful for the opportunities that gives.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Me, and of course for the country. It's fantastic because
when kids see because as I see it, all everyone's
done school sports. They didn't do high jump well, generally,
didn't do the shot put well. Most of us had
to crack at.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
The long jump.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
A bit of running was good. When they see you,
they see anything's possible, presumably.

Speaker 19 (55:00):
Absolutely, and I think I think that's my kind of messages.
As for me, I didn't have anyone to look up to.
You know, the first time I jumped to thirty was
was or the first time I experienced anyone jumping too
thirty was me jumping it. The first time I held
an Olympic gold medal, it was my medal. And so
you know, just go out there and strive your own
own you know what, have your dreamers, go and go
and find that path.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
And just go for it.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Terrific to meet you, mate, Go well, we'll talk to
you you in La Yes, absolutely, Okay, we'll talk to
you after that. Another gold hopefully no pressure. Thirteen minutes
away from a Hamish.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
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Speaker 2 (55:41):
It is ten minutes away from a nice reactions, spoke
so well, great interviewers. Well yeah, a lovely interview with
Hamish Mike. Thanks so often we don't hear any follow
up to special events. Interesting to learn more about the
high jump. I couldn't agree more. Aren't we all or
am I just a weirdo?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Yet again?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
Aren't we all fascinated with things that we can can't do?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
See?

Speaker 2 (56:01):
The shot put is a power thing. It's a weight thing.
You've got to be a big person. If you're not
a big person, you're never going to excel at the shotput.
We can aspire, potentially surely to the high jump. We're
good at the long jump. Anyone can run along really fast,
hit the bar jump. Don't have to be an Olympic champion.
But we've got the potential to jump. We've got the
potential to run four hundred meters round the track. This

(56:22):
is all school sports, right, But the high jump was
that illusory thing whereby for a while, Yes you can
when it's low enough, we all jump over, and then
it gets a little bit higher and you may start
dropping out, and then you fancy yourself and the scissors
are working, and then you do the role. I'm disappointed
to hear the roles not as big as it was
when he ran down my age.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Obviously I was not disappointed.

Speaker 16 (56:42):
I was.

Speaker 15 (56:43):
I found it very amusing that he said that you were.
I think I'm paraffe uphrasing, but like an old coat
basically to have done that technique at all.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Like he had obviously read about it in a book. Yes,
before he hit an exactly like when they did it
in Egypt. Apparently that's what you used to do. But
the so did you not? Did you not flop?

Speaker 20 (57:04):
No?

Speaker 11 (57:04):
One?

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Frosbury flopped?

Speaker 2 (57:05):
I flopped all bollocks, I did not.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
I did? You did not?

Speaker 15 (57:09):
I flopped and and I could do it, and then
I got it wrong a couple of times and landed
on the bar.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah that hurts.

Speaker 15 (57:16):
That's got that sure, That really hurts, and it gets
in your head.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
And you're done for. And that's what the sports. That's
the problem with the sports or psychological When you look
at the bar, how high did you go? Roughly do
you go as was the bar below your head.

Speaker 15 (57:29):
Or it would have been slightly higher than the mat,
getting as high as the mat.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
So you Frosby flopped over two and a half feet,
that's that's not that's just falling back, maybe even been lower,
that's not real, and still managed to knock for bar off.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
For goodness sake.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Great higher jumper who I saw at the Commonwealth Games
in Auckland a few years ago was that Roger And
it was Roger to Poony, Roger to Purney. You're talking
about Roger to Purney, Mike. First time I ever did
the Western role was at Mount Rothwell Grammar in nineteen
seventy and a sawdust pit. I broke my arm and
had to do my school certificate examination writing lift handed.

Speaker 15 (58:03):
And to think they don't do that technique anymore.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Don't know what happened there. Eight minutes away from eight.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
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Speaker 2 (58:13):
Talk edb by Mike Hamish. Top bloke couldn't agree more.
It's what I think, in general, not always, but in general,
sport teaches you you'd end up being a half decent
human being as far as I can work out, Mike,
how about we accept the problem and start to invest
in nuclear and just look up what's his name, Larry Ellison, who,
by the way, I think ended up being an owner

(58:34):
of Paramount, which is related certainly to Channel ten on
Australia because he was one of the bidders who bought something.
I can't remember the name of the company's famous company,
but they happen to own Paramount anyway, it's a major
media player art Anyway, he was on an earnings call
this week and he was talking about data centers and
how we don't have power to run data centers. So
he's building three small nuclear reactors, not him personally because

(58:54):
he probably doesn't know how. And then you think, are
these little reactors real? And as it turns out, they are,
but not really. There are three of them in the world,
and at least one of them is in Russia, the
other ones in China, so it's got that vibe about it,
so it's not really commercialized to this particular point. But
I think this is where we're going, and Britain certainly
been looking at them. They're getting smaller and smaller and
smaller and therefore more and more useful, because the argument

(59:17):
run nuclear power for a country like ours was it
was way too expensive and we didn't have a big
enough population. If we joined with Australia we might be
able to do it. But with technology these days, if
Oracle can run their business on a small nuclear reactor,
then potentially long term we are, which then brings up
the debate do we want to have the debate or
is it forever buried?

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Actually?

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That is pitiful?

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
It is past eight. Tim Wilson's with us along with
Kate Hawksby.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Good morning, Good, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Let's talk Tim. School sports highlights. Where were you good?

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
What do you do at school? I'll tell you what
there was.

Speaker 20 (01:01:38):
There was a time of absolute glory the B team
for following your high school hockey.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
When we bust across to PARMI.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
I was subbed off after thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Minutes because I was so useless. But bit a squash,
bit a squash, I think, okay.

Speaker 20 (01:01:56):
I used to go down to this, well, the thing
was down the squash club that's used to keep mc dury's.
So I go and play a game of squash or two,
open up my locker, roll myself a SIGI and contemplate such.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Really a Hamish cur type moment there was it that.

Speaker 21 (01:02:12):
Was such a lovely interview.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Hamush Cur was so great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Isn't a delightful guy? And do you know do you
know why he's delightful? Why he's from christ.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
J All right, that explains it. Listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Actually he's born and done and studied in Parmeerston North.
He's done some agricultural stuff and he's not using it
anytime soon, so he's got a back up long term.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
But it does.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
We've all am I right, Katie and saying we've all
a done school sports, but be fascinated ourselves with the
high jump because none of us can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Well.

Speaker 21 (01:02:47):
It was such a competitive thing because if you were
little and sprightly, which I imagine you where and I
was pretty, you know, like a string bean and probably
tim too, you kind of begged yourself to get a
bit of momentum and fling your body across it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
So I used to be really disappointed.

Speaker 21 (01:03:01):
If I didn't, it was like, wait, what why didn't
my body get across this?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
But did Mike, Mike, did you do the high jump?

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
We all did the high jump because it was compulsory,
so so school sports was compulsory.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
And though right, yeah, you did, well you did.

Speaker 21 (01:03:19):
No, No, you in particular wouldn't like did.

Speaker 20 (01:03:21):
You he's got he's got hang on this guy a
step back at but he's got little legs, so he's
going to have more of a run up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Well, did you hear?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Hamish's answer was if you are slight like I am,
you needed more speed, so yes, you need to come
from a long distance. It was it was like my
cricket career. One of the most embarrassing moments of my
sporting life was when I was playing cricket at Hagley
Park in the Sir Richard Hadley team captained by Sir

(01:03:50):
Richard Hadley, and he came up to me and I'll
never forget it. And I was not an unreasonable cricketer
like I was. You know, I could you you would
look at me, go he's played some cricket anyway. He
comes up to me and he goes left arm, medium
pace as though that's something that I would be doing,
and I said, sure, sir, rich and that's been left

(01:04:11):
arm medium pace anyway, because I got carried away with myself.
I took it back in the run up just a
little bit further than was necessary to try and turn
myself into a Richard Hadley or Dennis Lily. And so
I came in from the long basically from the boundary,
and so as I built.

Speaker 12 (01:04:29):
So built up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Really annoying kids. You can imagine where the ball went,
and it wasn't on the pitch, it was nowhere near anybody.
The whole thing was just so embarrassing. And I'm pretty
sure I dislocated my shoulder.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
And that was the beginning of your shoulder issues.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
And that was pretty much the beginning of my shoulder issues.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Nine months crouched him a couple of things. I want
to test out this morning, So the space walks, the talk, right,
how much would a space walk need to be for
you Tim to pay it and go, yep, I'll do
that because that's an interesting thing to do, or would
you never do it?

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Thirty eight dollars fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Okay, so you don't really care. It needs to be
like it needs to be nothing. I don't think i'd
even go if.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
It was free.

Speaker 20 (01:05:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's what about what about the high altitude skydiving?
You have you considered that there was a bloke who
didn't while back out of a plane in a space suit,
you fall for thirty nine ks. This bloke Ossie broke
Mac one point twenty five, so fastest falling person.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Would you do that?

Speaker 7 (01:05:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
No, see no, I don't jump off the table at home,
far less do a parachute jump, jump, will do any
of those sort of things?

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Mac too?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I wonder if you do?

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
You feel it as you go through the MAC? Well?

Speaker 20 (01:05:50):
Would you in your spacesuit though, that's the question, or
would it just be see you'd want to be you
want to take your helmet off as your break in
the MAC, wouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Well flick your visor up and just see what the wind?
See what the wind feels like?

Speaker 21 (01:06:04):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I thoroughly enjoy it, like I thoroughly enjoyed hammishear. I
think I think people like that. There's something about sports
in the CADI. What is it about sport that turns
people into decent human beings?

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:06:13):
I just think they're well rounded. They've usually they've usually
got good families who've backed them up, and they've usually
had a weekends, you know, weekends filled with sport, and
they've made good connections. And it's good community sport. I mean,
that's why they encourage you at a very young age
to get your kids into as much of it as possible,
which is actually quite pricey these days though by the
time you pay all the club fees and all the
uniforms and all the gear. I do think that's an issue.
But if you can get your kids into as much

(01:06:35):
sport as possible within reasons, it sort of rounds them out.
I don't know, it's good for them.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
It's interesting. It's the team.

Speaker 20 (01:06:41):
It's the team issue, isn't it Actually? Well, but it's
also like I can't do this on my own. I
have to have people to help me. I think our
society has just become fragmented and individualistics. Sports the antidote
to that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Well, it isn't It isn't funny you should say that
because Martin Crow, who I remember talking to because I
was always interested in him. Here he was a singular character,
but he played in the team sport but cricket's one
of those games, for example, that you can be a
singular character and start in end of your own right
while being in a team as well. And he and
he was one of those. He didn't ask me.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
He was still.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
He didn't ask me.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
He'd been talking to Sir Richard exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
He didn't ask It was a brief break. I've got
another question for the we've done that. We've agreed we
wouldn't go on a space walk. Another question in the moment.
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Yes, Sam says, you pay a thousand bucks. The point
I was trying to make is unless you can get
me up there that everyone seems to agree. The look
back down to Earth is the thing. So you go
back and go, wow, that's where I live. So but
the point is, you got it takes so long to
get there, and really how long what if you step out?
How long do you look back down at Earth going oh,
that's really cool before you go?

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Right time to go? You know what I mean?

Speaker 20 (01:08:03):
Can't be bothered with the commutes, can't be fast.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
It's just just send me, send me a picture exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 20 (01:08:10):
Hey, hey, I just want to say a great comment
I thought at five to seven this morning about about
Trump and immigration and Springfield.

Speaker 6 (01:08:17):
Yes, there is an issue here. There's clearly an issue here.

Speaker 20 (01:08:19):
Same with there's a place called Aurora where they've got
Venezuelan gangs, extortion, beatings, child prostitution in housing projects.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
There is an issue. He's just he just fumbled.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Well, it's not just him, it's it's the nut jobs
who surround him. And if you just got rid of
the weirdos and you dealt with the issue, then then
you might deal with the issue as opposed to getting
waylaid with all of the other stuff. Second question, Okay,
the nine month cruise. Most interesting article I read this
week was the Serenade of the Seas, which is just
returned from nine month cruising. And they talk to the

(01:08:54):
people on the cruise. Do most of the people think
they had a great time and would do it again,
or to most of the people never want to get
on a ship again.

Speaker 21 (01:09:03):
Well, they're probably anyone who goes on a nine month
cruise is obviously a hardened cruiser, so they probably loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
They hated it, did they, but almost universally they hated it.
They came back and they said, a couple of things happened.
One see, there's the other one, which is around the world.
One that you buy a cabin and you pop on
and off as you see please, and that's what happens.
This one was a nine month cruise. You're on there
for nine months. They all missed their family, they all

(01:09:31):
missed stuff that was going on on land that they
never got to experience. And they were going, oh damn,
I was missing that one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
What a shame.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
And they got bored witless basically, and it was too
long and they felt trapped.

Speaker 21 (01:09:42):
Yeah, I mean I could have told you that before
you went on board.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
I mean that just seems so obvious.

Speaker 21 (01:09:47):
I don't know who would be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
So you know that's why nine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Months, Yeah, that seems well, because that's what happens. What
you do is you go, well, here's a ten day cruise. Hey,
how about a twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
One day cruise.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
I'll tell you what, thirty two days around Scandinavia, And
before you know, you're on a nine month cruise.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
That's how that was. Nine months is long about a
two hundred and seventy day cruise.

Speaker 21 (01:10:07):
It's too much because if you just said a baby
that long and I can tell you it's a long
long time, having done it three times, it's nine months
is a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Ask any pregnant woman.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Could you argue that having a baby is not the
same as going on a cruise?

Speaker 12 (01:10:21):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 21 (01:10:21):
Both sound pretty, you know, taking.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
On a lot unusual, having nothing like it. You're not
comparing apples and orange just here, and you're stating a
baby baby. You're creating life. It's beautiful, it's a wonderful journey.
But with you and your bride, why.

Speaker 21 (01:10:39):
Are you worried about That's okay, it's good for you
to say that because you're not actually carrying the baby
there to a thiever, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Well oh.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
You're you're a man.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
You can't talk about the boundary. Don't start, don't start
with it down, don't start with this. You can't comment.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Listen, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I am sorry, Caddy. I just say I am I.

Speaker 21 (01:11:04):
I just say I am a little bit concerned that
you're you're lining up a pretty terrifying retirement for us,
because what you have so fart seduced this week.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Is space a nine month spacewalk or moving.

Speaker 21 (01:11:14):
To a house and above a racetrack that has cars
in the lounge.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Above it's on a racetrack, which does lead me to
twenty two Monaco Drive. So it's a beautiful house, have
you seen it, Tim?

Speaker 20 (01:11:28):
Yes, it's it's not quite for us because if you've
got a car in the lounge, the philistines will jump,
We'll grab the keys.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
They'll be doing donuts in the living room. Forget about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Problem being.

Speaker 21 (01:11:40):
If you're living on a race track, what about them?

Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
You've got rear.

Speaker 21 (01:11:44):
All day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
No, that's you on the race track.

Speaker 20 (01:11:48):
I've got to semi if you like that, I've got
to semi detached on Dominion Road.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
That will just suit you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Guys, do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I don't know what do you do when you reach
your point, Tim, where your dreams are being scuttled right
in front of you?

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Right?

Speaker 21 (01:12:01):
Oh, come on, these are crazy dreams.

Speaker 7 (01:12:03):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
This is crazy stuff you get. So you know what
you're get new dreams. Go and get some new dreams.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Where do you get new dreams from? The new dream Shop.
Do you get down to the new dream.

Speaker 21 (01:12:14):
Shop somewhere either than a raceway or a cruise ship
or a space brocket.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Okay, countdown this abount of fun here. So there's no space,
there's no rocket, there's no.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I've got it. I've got it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Crocheting.

Speaker 20 (01:12:31):
This is what this is for you. And you're sitting
there quietly, You're thinking about things, You're talking about the
stuff that's interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
You're making nice little outfits.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Hosking.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
Kamela is in North Carolina. It feels like she's on
a roll.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Do't Carolina? Today?

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
I then ask you, are you ready to make your
voices heard?

Speaker 12 (01:13:48):
Do we believe in freedom?

Speaker 13 (01:13:52):
Do we believe in opportunity?

Speaker 8 (01:13:56):
Do we believe in the promise of Americas?

Speaker 20 (01:14:01):
And are we ready to fight for it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
And when we fight we.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Blessing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Here's what she's doing right one she's feeling good from
the other night. Of course, they got a bigger crowd,
they get a noisier crowd. I mean, yes, it's the
same line every time. But maybe I'm right, Maybe they're
going to vote on the vibes and that's all they need.
But she feels good, sounds good, looks good at this
present point in time. Mind you, there's two months ago.
Using a couple of moments, then let's cross the Tasman
Kieren Gilbert's our man at Sky News after the news here,

(01:14:35):
which is next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues the
Mic Hosking breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from
a different cloth.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
News talks Edben.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Mike accommodation was sure to in Cromwell, so stayed at
Highland Motorsport Park, had my mother with us, a great
result I thought for a place to stay.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
However, it has to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Said it's not for everyone, as I was regularly reminded
when wanting some piece to watch and laps from the balcony.
The good news for Katie though, is that it's quite
outside the track opening hour, so you see there's a
little bit of something there for everybody. Twenty three minutes
away from.

Speaker 13 (01:15:08):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
You're Revealberasco and news back letters for a Friday Morning
money mate, Mike morning, do explain this to me. I
was trying my hardest to get my head around it.
So changes to well home care and residential so we're
talking aged care. Do people end up paying more or
is the government coughing more as well.

Speaker 16 (01:15:31):
No, people are going to pay more. And the only
way you could do this is if you had the
two major parties agreed to some reform here. And we've got,
like many nations around the world, what's called a demographic
time bomb. Our population is aging. Something had to be done, Mike,
and to put the age care sector on a sustainable footing,

(01:15:53):
and I think they're right, the major parties to get
this done. It's a modest increase in what people are paying.
But yes, some assets and what people might have hoped
might be their legacy for their kids and grandkids. They'll
have to just eat away at that a little to
ensure their care in their older years.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
So if you're on what we would call the super
and nothing else, are you paying for something or does
the state cover that? And as it means tested for
in other words, the wealthier you are, the more you pay.

Speaker 16 (01:16:22):
Absolutely it is. Yeah, it's going to kick in at
thirty thousand dollars a year, which is basically the rate
of our basic pension. So if you're on the basic pension,
you won't pay anything. Anything above that you do, but
gradually scaled up. There is a cap though, as to
what the most an individual can pay for their care
of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year. So

(01:16:45):
that's if you're a multi millionaire, you won't you'll obviously
have to contribute the entire amount for your care. But
if you're not, if you're a part pension or a pensioner,
it'll be a more modest amount. But as I say,
that gradually scales up over the income spectrum.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Okay, so at three point thirty three dollars thirty for
every dollar paid for residential care versus seven eighty for
every dollar paid for home care, are they trying to
keep you at home and not overwhelm the aged care
residential care sector.

Speaker 16 (01:17:18):
There is part of that, absolutely, Plus it's also to
accommodate people who want so many people. I know, I'm
speaking from experience. My father we're going through this experience
right now, and he's very keen to stay at home
as long as he can. But that gets to a point,
and I know many of your listeners would know from
loved ones that it gets to a point where it's

(01:17:40):
just too difficult to ensure the care, so then at
that point they've got to move. But yes, I think
that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
It does.

Speaker 16 (01:17:47):
It's not only just to encourage people to stay home,
but to accommodate that wish. But having said that, this
is a rare thing in Australian politics right now, Mike,
to see a compromise of this sort, We've got an
election within eight to nine months. I was a bit
surprised to see it. Glad to see it though.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Does it take the sting out of the political problem?
In other words, people go, I may not like it,
but given everyone agrees with it, what.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Can I do?

Speaker 16 (01:18:12):
It absolutely does, And I think what you've got here
as well is a pragmatism from the opposition leader. He
is saying, if we win the next election unlikely, but
the one after, that's a red hot chance. This problem's
not going anywhere, and they're going to have to find
billions of savings. Not because when I said that people
are going to pay more, yes they will, but it

(01:18:35):
is also a saving on the budget as well, of
upwards of five billion a year, So yes, it's it
is actually trimming this ballooning cost making it more sustainable,
and I think you having that day bipartisan support across
the political aisle definitely takes the sting out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Actually, I'm going to put you on the spot, and
I'm sorry for doing this, but I was watching Australian Parliament.
The opposition the collisions Defense spokesman young Man looked like
he'd been in the military. Who is he?

Speaker 16 (01:19:05):
Andrew Hasty is his name. He served in the Special Forces,
a decorated soldier.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
So he was talking yesterday and the only reason asked
that is that I'm assuming there's some sort of bipartisanship
about what happened with the with Miles yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
In these medals and the Breton.

Speaker 16 (01:19:21):
Report, there's an element of bipartisanship. I wouldn't say it's
across in the totality of this issue. But let's first
of all talk about what Hasty was. He did get
emotional because what yesterday was about was accountability for the
commanders in Afghanistan where those alleged war crimes took place

(01:19:44):
many years ago, and it is many years ago now
well over a decade, and the process since Brereton has
been eight years. So the argument here is it's taking
too long for those Special Forces soldiers who a cloud
hanging over them. Yesterday wasn't about the individuals accused of

(01:20:05):
a perpetrating a war crime. Yesterday was about accountability for
the commanders. They never had citations removed those top brass
well yesterday they did. They are going to have them removed,
it was announced yesterday, But we won't know who they are.
These individuals aren't the ones accused of doing these things themselves,

(01:20:28):
but there is an accountability and a chain of command
in the military and it was argued that they should
be held accountable in some form as well, and finally
that was announced yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Okay, So then we come to Facebook, and I think
every western country in the world has got a problem
with big tech at the moment. But Facebook goes and
scrapes the details of every single Australian photos and posts
to train their AI and they do that because there
are no laws in Australia to prevent you from doing it,
despite the fact there are laws and places like Europe
that you can't. So that's in front of the center inquiry.
Are people ropable or is that just good old big

(01:21:01):
tech doing what they do no.

Speaker 16 (01:21:03):
I think they are ropeable. Certainly parliamentarians are and this
was something that was exposed this week by the Senate process,
the Inquiries committees, having Meta and Facebook before them. Initially
they denied that this was the case until one of
the senators said, actually that's not true and ping them

(01:21:24):
live during our committee hearing. So I think, yep, people
are ropable. Hopefully this does lead to tougher laws because
this is quite frankly right now the Wild West. When
it comes to the jurisdiction overseeing Facebook, big tech and
so on, they need to be rained in on a
range of issues. This is one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Hey, listen Karanaza. Earlier on this morning, I was quoting
some of the ratings out of Australia. You guys ran
the debate the other day No. Seven nine and the
ABC did I mean well, in exists of two million
people in Australia watched that debate. That's at eleven o'clock
in the morning your time, So you were spot on
the other day. It's real, it's alive and people are
fully engaged, don't.

Speaker 16 (01:22:04):
They They are. Absolutely Our numbers were through the roof
as well. There's no doubt people were super engaged, want
to know what's going on, want to know whether Donald
Trump's making a return, And this was a compelling bit
of television, no doubt about it. And I thought it
was the contrast was so stark. I'm sure you guys
have been talking about it for days now, but the

(01:22:26):
preparation that Harris had clearly put in showed versus the
free wheeling Trump. How that plays out in the polls?

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Who knows exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Good on you mate, us to catch appreciative very much,
Kieren Gilberts of Sky News.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Out of Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
It is eight forty five the Mike Asking Breakfast Full
Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Howard By News Talks, a'd be twelve away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
I alluded earlier on but the problems faced in our
education system are very similar in Australia, so they're rejigging
in New South Wales anyway, a major, major robahaul of
the curriculum and for all the people who text me
and go, one of the reasons they're leaving Years Island
is because of all the verification of the place. Well
high school students will be taught about Indigenous Australian's experience
of colonialization as part of the new curriculum. So take

(01:23:12):
that and smoke it. Biggest overhaul in the state's history
syllabus in a decade compulsory study of the Holocaust, a
revised year seven to ten history syllabus. They're changing up
geography and visual arts Revised HSC maths in English explicitly
articulates the knowledge students will need to learn in each

(01:23:33):
year of schooling. In other words, you're going to mark,
You're going to be held to account.

Speaker 11 (01:23:36):
Do you know it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Do you not know it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Our syllabus is a steeped and evidence not ideology. So
they're doing the same thing that we are, which is good.
So we all seem to have come to the same
realization at the same time. Civics and citizenship have been mandated.
Now that's interesting because I was always a massive fan
still am of civics in general. And the unfortunate part
of the argument is he goes civics is always been

(01:24:00):
taught in American schools, and once you learn about civics,
you want to participate in the democratic process. And of course, unfortunately,
despite the fact they learn about civics in America, very
few people in America participate in the democratic process, so
it sort of beats itself up. But anyway that's been mandated.
They look at the development of Australian democracy, separation of powers,
features at the constitution, referenda, voting in elections, all that stuff.

(01:24:21):
Under the previous curriculum you could study that, but you
had to be taking commerce. And if you didn't take commerce,
you never studied it. Those are the sort of the
interesting and important bits and pieces there are probably going
to apply to your later life than some of the
more esthoteric stuff you have taken. Think, what the hell
am I studying this for? Mike Shane, Retty's so logical

(01:24:41):
and right to consider using private hospitals to take pressure
off waiting lists. Now you can ask Erica Stanford Immigration
and Education if she is willing to use private schools
to solve overcrowded public schools makes sense utilizing capacity that
already exists. That is not a bad question. And if
I remember, I shall pose it ten to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
On my cost, will breakfast with a Veta retirement. Communities
US dogs had.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
Been seven away from nine. You've got to celebrate the
numbers that came out yesterday. Surely about the cost of living.
The food price Index is up zero point four percent
for the year, so food's going nowhere. Chocolate is Chocolate's
grotesquely expensive because they've got cocoa problems. I read an
article the other day. I can't remember whether I mentioned it,
but they for the first time, I think it was

(01:25:28):
in Switzerland, could have been in Sweden. They're now making
or able to make chocolate out of the whole thing.
So up until now, the husk tossed out, the in
it's tossed out. They use the cocoa, that's the end
of that. Whereas now they can do they can compress
through the scientific method that they've invented, the whole thing.
So you take the whole cocoa plant and compress it

(01:25:49):
to the point that it eventually makes chuck.

Speaker 15 (01:25:50):
I saw another article this morning that they are making
fake chocolate like in a lab, you know, like fake meat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Do you know what chocolate? Let's chocolate the because that'll
be crap and will never go anywhere. They're about to
put the meat people. I'll have something on Monday. Actually,
the meat people are about to make a steak, like
a proper steak, A what do you call it? A
sinew steak. It's got sinew and.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
Crap all through it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
The bets I don't like exactly fresh fruit and vegetables,
they're down twelve percent. You're noticing that. I am orange
juice shortage, and so at our place, we're growing oranges
at the moment, and grapefruit and good crops and am
currently pressing them cold pressing them into juice. So if
you want some, it's eight hundred dollars a liter and

(01:26:32):
sam'su man, give them a call.

Speaker 15 (01:26:34):
I'm not allowed at the grapefruit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Yeah, because your heart it's disappointing. You don't know what
you're missing. Well, you probably do, do you. We've really
been a mess effect grape there's grapefruit. What I've discovered,
We've got three sorts of grapefruit. There's grapefruit and grapefruit.
There's yeh, Grandad's grapefruit that's delicious squashed. There's the ruby
red grapefruit that's even more delicious squashed. And then there's

(01:26:56):
a pale yellow skinned grapefruit which is white ish flesh.
You got to mix that up with the other great
fruit because that by itself is quite bitter.

Speaker 15 (01:27:04):
This is what I'm worried about You're gonna mix it up,
and then you're gonna offer me a glass of juice,
and then you're gonna kill me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Mike's secrets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Mike's secret is so anyway, your fruit and vigies are down,
your chocolate's up, your olive oils up. There's notes that
you can't you can't not do olive oil. But overall
the price of stuff seems to have settled down nicely.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Five Away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Mine trending now the home of big brand cosmetics.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
The debate, all the usual stuff online that's come out
of the debate, the weird stuff. Springfield, cats, dogs. This
guy's going viral for quoting the debate in different Simpsons characters.

Speaker 10 (01:27:38):
I have a your concept of a plan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Wayne Springfield. They're eating the dogs, the people that came
in here, You itting the cats, do youting the pits
the people that live here.

Speaker 11 (01:27:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:27:50):
Now she wants your new transgender operations on a legal
aliens of prison.

Speaker 9 (01:27:56):
Oh, I get involved with the Tally bear and then
I read that she was black eid away, It's okay
with me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Execution after bath.

Speaker 10 (01:28:09):
It's like four sentences like runs but run.

Speaker 3 (01:28:15):
Had I tollap door don't do it.

Speaker 17 (01:28:20):
Our country is going to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
I invited a duel to keep David. It seems funny
now at the time I thought it was this real anyway,
then you got a techno song for the weekend.

Speaker 18 (01:28:32):
Eating the cats eat the cat, Eat the cat.

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 18 (01:28:37):
They're eating the cats, eat the cat, Eat the cat.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats eat the cat.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
The moment I think she won the debate was when
he said that and she just laughed as and like
she was just genuinely laughing. It wasn't like Charcole Horror.
It was just like this is too good.

Speaker 15 (01:28:56):
I quite like that when she would just put her
chin on her hand like she was just enjoying the
shows care It's just like Trump, you set fire to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Himself anyway, as a Bajan this weekend for the IF one,
so that's super exciting. Might be some news on Liam
Lawson to look forward to supercars. We'll be watching a
little bit. We're watching a bit of that's actually speaking
of doing a Hamish curve sports people. I like next
week we're going to and he's in the middle of
the Irish Open at the moment, so we'll wait till
that's over. But Ryan Fox is back on the program
and a sort of a year ending you know chat,

(01:29:25):
So we'll look forward to your company on Monday Happy
Days

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
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