Full Show Podcast: 14 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Morning and welcome to you. Coming up on the show today,
there is a plan to double the value of international students.
We're going to speak to universities New Zealand about that.
We have sent to Australia a vessel seven hundred soldiers
in a drone for that big military exercise for check
in with them. Homeschooling is taking off wise that the
Prime Minister's back from holiday and in studio with us
look of the commentary box obviously after eight and then

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we're off to the US and Ozzie as well.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Heather Duplice Alan So to fix.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
The ongoing problems that we've got with the supermarket competition
in this country. David Seymour's pitch to an idea fast
track any supermarket chain that wants to open if they apply,
give them permission a months, don't take years. Give them
permission for all of the stores that they want, not
just one at a time, and then give them an
automatic liquor license for all of the stores. Is this
going to make a difference. You'd think it probably would,

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even that our current rules make it so hard that
it took Costco three years to get permission to build
its store, and i Kia got permission for Sylvia Park
and Auckland, but only if it allowed seven different Manifenua
groups to pray over the site a couple of times. Now,
obviously the devil is in the detail on David Seymore's idea,
but this is hands down the best idea that we've
had so far from this government on how to get

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competition into the supermarket sector. Because everything up to now
you'd have to look back on and say has been
a non event, hasn't it. I mean, they've threatened the supermarkets.
They've written letters to the supermarkets telling them to fix
their pricing mistakes. They've commissioned analysis on what to do
with the supermarkets. They've issued a request for information with
the supermarkets. But what's happened. It's just been a big
performance of doing something while doing absolutely nothing at all.

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None of that has made supermarkets more competitive. And same
goes by the way for what the government is doing
with the pretense of fixing banks while doing nothing, The
pretense of fixing the butter price by dealing to Fonterra,
but nothing's actually going to happen, the pretense of fixing
the electricity prices, which are still high. There are only
eighteen months or so left for this government. They need
to take a lesson from how voter patients ran out

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with Ardurn and Labor doing exactly the same thing with
all those market studies that went nowhere. Voters have seen
all of this kind of stuff before. We're probably not
going to fall for all the same cheap tricks this time.
This government has talked about fixing supermarkets. Now it needs
to do something about fixing supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Maybe it's David Siemol's idea, maybe it's something else, but
do something.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Wow, News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
IDF is blaming a malfunction on a missile for killing
those innocent civilians and kids when they were just trying
to collect water as.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
A result of a technical error with the munition. The
munition fell dozens of meeters from the target.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
The incident is under review.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
The EU is still hoping for a trade deal with
the US after Trump and posed thirty percent tariffs, so
they've suspended their retaliation measures until early August.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
We will therefore also extend the suspension of our countermeasures
till early on August, and at the same time, we
will continue to prepare further countermeasures so we are fully prepared.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
The Epstein file saga is rolling on and continues to
divide the megabase, so Trump's written about it in a
lengthy post on truth Social They created the Epstein files
just like they created a fake Hillary Clinton Christopher s
Field Arca, the one they used on me, and now
my so called friends are playing right into their hands.
We'll have more on that before six thirty. Now to
the UK and the government is refusing to rule out

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tax hikes for the middle class and wealthy.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
I'm not going to sit in a TV studio today
and speculate on what the contents of that budget might be.
When it comes to taxation, fairness is going to be
our guiding principle.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
This is obviously just given the Tories morem O.

Speaker 8 (03:42):
That sounds to me like a barely disguised reference to
tax rises coming in the autumn, even though Rachel Reeves
promised last year there would be no further tax rises.
She said that very clearly they're in the process of
crashing the economy.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
A dropping the measles vaccine rates and a death in
Liverpool now has us worrying about social media and people
doing their own research.

Speaker 9 (04:03):
If you can't get an answer to your questions from
health professional because they're not available, then you will look
for it elsewhere and maybe go to social media or
the Internet, where we know there is a lot of misinformation.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
And finally, we've got a rare auction happening this week.
Southby's in New York is going to be auctioning off
what is known as NWA one six seven eighty eight. Now,
what that actually is is a meteorite that was blown
off the surface of Mars and eventually landed in the
Sahara before being found in November twenty twenty three. It
is the biggest meteorite we're found, at thirty eight centimeters

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by twenty eight centimeters and represents seven percents seven percent
rather of all the Martian material that we currently have
on Earth. It's expected to solve for between five and
a half million and eleven point six million New Zealand
dollars to anyways, that is news of the world. In
ninety seconds. I've got some happy royal news for you,
because Jesus has been a dearth of that of late,
isn't It looks like there might be something of a

(04:57):
Reproachemont on the cards between Harry and Charles. Some senior
aides have held some peace talks in London. So this
involved Harry's new chief communications officer who flew over from California,
then the chap who runs Harry's PR operation in the UK,
and then the King's comm Secretary Communication Secretary. Three of
them met up for drinks at a private members club

(05:19):
last Wednesday. It was very casual apparently, but it was
a clearing of the air. Two of them, the Sussex people,
arrived by taxi at ten to four and then the
other one came from the King's courts carrying a gift
from a wine and spirits merchant. So it looks like
it's gonna be quite fun if this works. By the way,
this is the first set of talks that have been held.

(05:40):
It's wild that a family has to do this kind
of thing, but it's the first set of talks that
have been held in years. And if it works. It
might lead to Charles taking up Harry's invitation to go
to the Invictus Games in Birmingham in a couple of years.
Time thirteen past.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
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Speaker 1 (05:59):
At be.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
We're going to go to Richard Arnold in the US.
Shortly after half past six, Trump's made a major Russia
Statement's got one coming up today, so you'll fill us
in on that. At sixteen past six. With that's right now,
we have Brig Smith, Devin Funds Management. Morning Greg, Morning Heather.
How do you think the market's going to react to
the latest on the tariffs.

Speaker 10 (06:22):
Yeah, they'll be in for a test of their resilience, I suppose.
And you know, is this more just more bluffing and
about reaching out pressure to get deals done? Is Tarco's
still alive? And well, so, I guess we'll see. But
your market has been pretty insensitive to these regular threats.
But yeah, we'll be in for a new test this week.
So yeah, so what have we got over the weekend?
Trump unveilve thirty percent tariff rates on Europe and Mexico

(06:44):
And this is pretty relevant. They together make up around
about a third of years. Imports, they said, if they
retaliate you mentioned Europe retaliating with candemssions, he says, whatever
they raise their rates by will be added to the
thirty percent. So this is similar to the letters sent
to Canada last week. And with respect to Mexica, Mexico
said they're not doing enough to combat the flood drugs

(07:04):
across the board. Also immigrants, the duties up. They're behind
in the twenty five percent post of Mexico earlier in
the year, although there's still this use in Mexico canter
agreement which makes might make some of them exempt. So
therefore the impact is suppose a little bit still unclear.
Mexico they said the deal was unfair. And with Europe
he's still unhappy, of course with the trade deficit which

(07:25):
the continent runs, exports the most goods of any nation
to America. Of course he's obviously still happier if they
relocate and manufacture their stuff there. But yeah, European leaders,
they were happy, including use of the Vondalane. The president,
she was up in arms as with some of them,
talking about the countermeasures as you mentioned, and this new
August one deadline, So yeah, there's a bit of a

(07:46):
follow up, a steep up and pressure. Of course, Trump
last week sent letters to twenty three other training partners,
including Cana in Japan and Brazil and sitting out Taos,
ranging from twenty to fifty percent. So I think heither
with deals having an obviously and coming following and have this.
I think this is all just about retching out the
pressure ahead of that. But yeah, markets will obviously be
in for a new test this week.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, what do you make of Levi Strass the way
it's shrugging it off.

Speaker 10 (08:10):
Ho company's actually doing quite well, including the genes maker.
So this years are up eleven percent on Friday they've
been expected earning so Callly sales up six percent and
then income that more than tripled, and they reckon they
can upset the impact of his tariffs as long as
they don't go any high. I guess that's a big
question mark. And they see an impact of this twenty
five to thirty million. It's pretty relevant to them where

(08:31):
these tariffs go because a lot of the stuff that
they make comes to pakist Bangladesh and leisure and the like.
So they're being threatened with these high tariffs. But yeah,
Levi's are coping by basically strong demands. So you know,
there's the slogan his quality never goes out of style
and appears that's is continuing to resonate with customers. So
here there are Genes recession proof. It seems like they

(08:51):
might be. They say that demands still their consumers are
still spinning. They reckon sales for the current quarter are
going to be up three to four percent now the
market spending five percent decline. They're also doing a number
of specific strategies which are going well. So the more
direct consumer sales gen Z millennials they are buying them.
Genes are still the best sellers, but also getting into caps,

(09:12):
back picks and even aprons, and they've got a coleb
of Nike and denham sneakers that's going pretty well. And
also either female shoppers, they're trying to warn more of
them and that's going pretty well. Women's of Peril Cells
jumped fourteen percent. They've got this partnership Beyonce and that's
proved a great move. Sales wise certainly had a nice
ring for investors. She is rolling Friday and up to

(09:32):
twenty seven percent year to day.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Okay, now looking at the PMI data, not looking too.

Speaker 10 (09:37):
Flesh, No, it just sort of reinforces that the new
other economy is stumbling along along, if not stalling in
the seeing quarter. So the Business Benzi Business and Museum
Performance and Manufacturing Report was titled still in the Red,
which is a bit of a giveaway. PMI actually improved
the forty seven point four but from forty seven point
four show, say, to forty eight point eight, but under

(09:58):
fifty it's still in contracting territory. So a lot of
sub indices are below the historical averages, including the finished
products and the X which basically shows that manufacturers are
still de stocking. New orders did increase a bit, so
it was a positive, but yeah, the outlook still looks
pretty varied. At best, hiring intentions they remain subdued. And yeah,
respondent's clearly, yeah, just worried about I suppose what's going

(10:21):
on geopolitically and obviously also on the trade side and
the flow on to demand. One bit of good news
here that we can take. That's saying that spot power
prices are coming down. That should be helpful to manufacturing activity.
And that's of course with full of hydro lakes. But yeah, overall, Heather,
You know, the PM shows economic conditions still very tough,
and hey, a few more rate cuts wouldn't go.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Miss great, give us the numbers.

Speaker 10 (10:43):
Sure, So the day Hell was down point six percent
on Friday, forty four to three seven one s and
P five hundred down point three percent. There's that down
point two percent, for two one hundred down point four percent,
Nike down point two percent, ASEX two hundred, Australia down
point one percent. We were Laura's well Instex down point
six percent, twelve six eight six. Well, they'rery. Healthcare had
a good day, up almost five percent on a good

(11:05):
first quarter update. Cammollie's gold up to thirty one dollars
three thousand and three and fifty five US. So now
it's oil up a dollar ninety sixty eight spot forty
five for wtive currencies, KIW down half percent against the
US sixty point one, down point three percent against Australian
dollar ninety one point three, British pound forty four point
six it was up point three percent. Japanese en eighty

(11:25):
eight point six up point four percent as well. Locally
plenty going on this suite. We've got the services PMI,
card spending, food inflation, another dairy auction, I'm sure lots
as well. So we've got a sway the Chinese data,
GDP inflation in the US retail sales as well, Ossie
consumer confidence and lots of results pouring in here that
we've got all the big US banks that are coming

(11:46):
in as well as Johnson, Johnson MX and Netflix. Good stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Hey Greg, thanks very much, really appreciate Greg Smith Devon
Funds Management.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Ever duper c Allen.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yeah, Jeens, I'm just wondering, I think that do you
think that what is do you remember there was a
while there we're wearing a pair of gens was not cool,
Like it was probably about five years or so. You
still wore them because you know, they're a pair of pants.
You can't go out without a pair of pants on.
But there's one thing that you cannot go You can
wear a hole in your T shirt, you can't have
a hole in your pants type things. You have to

(12:16):
have new pants. But for a while there was sort
of like geenes weren't that cool, and if you wore them,
it was just because you still had them left over.
I think they're cool again. I think that maybe behind
what's going on with them with old Levi Strass. By
the way, you would have seen in the papers yesterday
there's an open letter to the government from a group
of influential organizations calling for immediate action on electricity. We're
going to have a chat to one of them after

(12:37):
half past six twenty two.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
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Speaker 11 (12:45):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I don't know if you're aware of this, but over
in South Korea they have had thousands of medical students
not in class. This has been going on for the
last seventeen months. So they've been upset of government plans
to increase medical school admissions and they've been arguing that,
you know, doing that would lower the quality of the
education they received. So they boycotted for almost a year
and a half. They have just announced they're going to
be going back to their classes. Not sure when, but

(13:09):
at least they're going back six twenty.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Five trending Now Warehouse your home of winter essentials.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Now did I tell you or did I tell you
that this drama with the Epstein files wasn't going away
for the Trump and the DOJ anytime soon. Now, I'm talking,
of course, about the fact that there were two investigations
by the Trump team and both of them concluded that
Epstein died by suicide and that he didn't have a
client list and that he didn't blackmail anyone. Now, this
was detailed in a two page memo where they also

(13:38):
said that they wouldn't be releasing their investigation to the public.
Que the outrage, there are now calls for Pam Bondi's head.
Hardcore megafans are saying that Trump needs a reset with
his team to get back on track, and report that
his deputy Director of the FBI, Dan Bongino, had a
heated argument of Pam Bondi and is considering quitting. Not
surprising considering his stance on the files pre election.

Speaker 12 (13:59):
I mean, the guy was on connected to just about
every major player in the swamp internationally. And yeah, you
don't hear much about it. And what the hell are
they hiding with Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 13 (14:07):
Why do they.

Speaker 12 (14:08):
Want to make this Jeffrey Epstein's story go away? So
bad because the people in charge of this global cabal
of idiots out there trying to hide the truth don't
want you to hear about this story and have the
power to censor it the deep state. It's a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Really, that's crazy.

Speaker 12 (14:25):
Write a piece now it's a conspiracy theory. Tell me
what part of this conspiracy is theoretical?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
And he is. Kesh Patel on a podcast in Novimbe
last year.

Speaker 14 (14:33):
You're protecting the world's foremost predator, protecting the largest scale
pederist in human history.

Speaker 15 (14:38):
Simple because of who's on that list. You don't think
that Bill Gates is lobbying Congress. We're night and day
to prevent the disclosure of that list. And why is
it that the Senate?

Speaker 10 (14:48):
You know?

Speaker 15 (14:48):
And good for Senator Blackburn to try to get it out.
But then Dick Turbin comes over the top and says, no,
we're not going to release the names. I don't care
about the list itself. But he released the names right.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Drama uses next.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Time fliers and only twice setting the agenda and talking
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Togs dead.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
B Richard Arnold out of the States with us shortly
got some numbers out of health for you this morning.
Between September twenty twenty three, which is pretty much election time,
and then March this year, so what about four months
ago or so, so you could say almost the entirety
of this government's tenure Health New Zealand has hired the
following two one hundred nurses and more than six hundred doctors.

(15:40):
More than six hundred doctors. That feels like a lot
a so it takes us to about thirty five thousand
nurses and about twelve thousand doctors. And apparently despite that
crazy hiring and the numbers that we've got, there're still
not enough because just last week on Friday, the nurses
voted to go on strike why in part unsafe staff
levels twenty two away from seven. You've got a group

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of influential organizations and penned an open letter to the
Prime Minister calling for immediate action on electricity. This went
into the papers yesterdays. Signatories include the likes of the
Auckland Business Chamber, the EMA, Consumer New Zealand and also
the Major Electricity Users Group. Karen Boys is the executive
director of that group.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
And with us.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Now, Hey Karen, good morning, I'm well, thank you, is
it getting urgent.

Speaker 16 (16:23):
It is getting urgent. And the reason we call in
for it now is the government has its report from
Frontier Economics. So we've completed the independent review of the
ELECTRST market and it's with the Minister of Energy now
to she read this report, take in the findings and
make some bold action.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Okay, why are you guys putting an open letter in
the papers when he's already got the report. Are you
worried he's not going to do what's in the report.

Speaker 16 (16:45):
What we need is some change that's more than just incremental.
I said. We've seen some positive small steps, but we're
not seeing the action to address the underlying issues.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I said.

Speaker 16 (16:54):
We've got a drive. We've got a reasonably good winter.
I said, we've got some rain here which you'll get
us through winter twenty five. Need to make sure we
address the underlying issues like not enough generation, I said,
concerns with prices continue to increase, market power issues. We
don't have an energy strategy, so there's a lot of
things that we definitely want to see action on and

(17:15):
as soon as we can.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Right, Okay, we've been talking about the not enough generation
for ages, the way that the market is set up,
it kind of leaves us in this position and will
always leave us in this position, So what do you do?

Speaker 16 (17:27):
It definitely needs to look at incenters, the how we
bring on more.

Speaker 10 (17:31):
I said.

Speaker 16 (17:31):
We have a build behind rather than a head, so
we certainly would look at mechanisms to help that encouraged
to build a heat Also, I think more agreements between
particularly the government for a start, could be purchasing from
new generators for their needs to bring costs down for
a start. We also need to look at the funding models,

(17:51):
I said. Even if the transmission of distribution, I said,
we tend to build just in time, we need to
look at how can we actually start funding this and
share the cost over future generations. And then some ideas
starting to be talked about, similar to what we did
for bold band.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Do we need a structural breakup.

Speaker 16 (18:10):
There's definitely a lot of concerns about the sector, and
said a lot of the independent retailers have raised concerns.
Our view is that the issues are really on the
supply side of the market, so we need to look
at at first, saying that though the Frontier report should
be providing some insight into the market structure and whether
it's the best option to give us the supportable energy.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Karen, do you know what's in that report?

Speaker 16 (18:33):
No? I wish I did.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I think we all do. Hey, Okay, just rate the
chances that Simon Wats the Minister, actually does something that
will be sufficient.

Speaker 16 (18:44):
He's certainly understanding the issues and he's been out there
talking to stakeholders, including ourselves, and I said, seeing the
issues that we're seen with businesses, closing the concerns with households,
I think he realizes that the action that we're taking
is helping, but it's not moving the dial.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Okay, Karen, thanks very much. Enjoy your morning. Karen Boys,
executive director, Major Electricity Users Group. I've just told you
probably half an hour ago that there's a peace summit
for the King and Prince Harry and everybody should be
happy about it and finally the dysfunctional family is going
to put their pasts behind them. Now it's already drama
about that. Already drama about that and about the fact
that we know that the peace summit was on because

(19:20):
fair enough, I mean somebody leaked it to the Daily Mail,
and the Daily Mail were there taking photographs, got photographs
of the three of them having drinkies on the balcony.
Blah blah blah. Anyway, Harry is now having to deny
that he was the one that leaked that the peace
summit was happening. He said, they're not responsible to Sussexes.
They didn't do it. Buckingham Palace declined to comment. So
I think I think we can see who's guilty there.

(19:41):
It's not Harry, it's the King who's leaked. At this
time eighteen away from seven, the.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
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Speaker 3 (19:52):
Here that someone should look into the daily line charges
being between four and five dollars per day, So before
you even turn your power on, you're paying up to
one hundred and fifty dollars a month just in daily
line charges. But Malcolm, with that is if that truly
is how much we're paying, its extraordinary. But it would
go somewhere to explain what's going on with my power
bill at the moment. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
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mind for New Zealand, business with us out.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Of you as we have Richard Arnold High Richard Hi,
the Okay, what are you expecting from the statement on Russia.

Speaker 17 (20:22):
Well, a significant reversal by Trump on Ukraine. Trump is
going to deliver an important speech in Russia tomorrow after
days where he's been highlighting his upset with Russia's Putin.
So this is a big shift in policy from the
Trump White House, and it comes at a point where
Putin has been stepping up his attacks on Ukraine. We've
been seeing this day by day righte Whenever Trump renewed

(20:42):
his chats with Putin, the Russians would ignore the seas
file calls coming out of Washington and launch even bigger
volleys of missiles and drones onto Ukrainian civilian sites. That
led Trump to use his harshest language yet about the situation.

Speaker 18 (20:57):
We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin.

Speaker 10 (20:59):
Three.

Speaker 18 (21:00):
You want to know the truth. It's very nice all
the time, but it turns out to be meaningless.

Speaker 17 (21:05):
Now, this policy shift by Trump is happening right after
controversial halt in supplying US weapons to Kiv that delayed
an existing aid package to the Ukraine, with thousands of
artillery rounds and precision and ammunition involved. Now, says Trump,
we wanted to.

Speaker 18 (21:19):
Put defensive weapons because Putin is not treating human beings right,
scilling too many people. So we're sending some defensive weapons
to Ukraine and have approved there well.

Speaker 17 (21:32):
Ukraine is running short on anti missile systems like the
Patriot anti missile banks, but there is more. Trump is
weighing several elements. One would be a new Ukrainian aid
package with phones drawn from money already approved under Biden,
the fund that has three point eight billion US left.
As well, NATO has been working towards a larger deal
on weapons for Ukraine, where instead of the US supplying

(21:53):
stuff directly, the NATO Alliance would buy the weapons from
the United States and pass them on at no cost
to the Ukrainians. Would mean there's a lot of cash
for the Americans, so Trump's persuaded by that. It would
also let Washington step back a little bit from the
process as well. There's been a move by Ukrainian backers
in the US Congress to push forward with a new
sanctions measure against Russia, one that would put big, big

(22:14):
tariffs on places by Russian oil in here in China.
One of the co sponsors of that move is Republican
Senator Lindsey Graham, who is said today.

Speaker 19 (22:23):
I expect in the coming days you will see weapons
flowing at a record level to help Ukraine defend themselves.
I expect in the coming days that there will be
tariffs and sanctions available to President Trump he's never had before.

Speaker 17 (22:39):
Well, that is any way to pressure putin. That's the question, right,
It remains an open one. But like I say, this
is a reversal by Team Trump.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Richard, where are we at with Alligator Alcatraz?

Speaker 17 (22:51):
Well, we know a little more about it now. The
home run security to Christy Nome is slamming critics of
this new immigration's attentions soonde in Florida. The place was
built in just eight days. Trump piled with construction time
because it was so rapid. Nome says, pollies who now
have been able to see something of it and who
are calling conditions in humane, are just just playing games,

(23:13):
just political games. At first, those lawmakers were denied access
and they protested and they were allowed to see bits
of it. There are some nine hundred people being held
at the minute. Lawmaker Debuury Washerman Trutz is sewing off conditions.

Speaker 20 (23:25):
The pictures that you've seen, don't do it justice. They
are essentially packed into cages wall to wall humans thirty
two detainees per case.

Speaker 17 (23:39):
Yeah, there reports a bad hygiene of feces being spread everywhere,
sorry to convey this, with the toilets not working, lack
of food, folks having a shower in the middle of
the night because of inadequate facilities. It's claimed they can
triple the number of people staying there. But again those
detainees complain they're not being given legal rights, access to lawyers. Again,

(24:00):
the immigration squads I so picking up folks with no
criminal records, often detaining people for turning up at official
immigration hearings where they were ordered to appear. A federal
judge and now has temporarily halted the administration from making
arrests based only on these things or on race. And
Christine Noms says of that judge.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
She's frankly an idiot.

Speaker 20 (24:20):
We have all the rate in the world to go
out down the streets and to uphold the line to
do what we're going to do, so none of our
operations are going to change.

Speaker 17 (24:27):
He's frankly an idiot. Well, the judge declared there to
be a male idiot is actually a female judge, so
clearly Christie Nome doesn't even know who she is talking about.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Richard, thanks very much, really appreciate it. It's Richard Arnold, our
US correspondent. Listen, we're gonna have to talk about the
road cones in a minute. I am yeah, I'm not
loving what's going on with the road cones, so let's
chat through that. Can I just say, I've been watching Wimbledon, right,
because of course Sinner has been nel Karez to take
this thing out. Sinner has been walking around since then

(24:58):
with straight not even not even cracking a smile. I
don't know about you, but if I had taken out Wimbledon,
I would be grinning like an absolute clown the entire like.
I'd go to bed grinning like a clown. I'd grin
like a clown the whole day for how excited I
was about the situation. He's just completely taken it in Astrida.
It doesn't even as cool as a cucumber. Doesn't even
look like he cares about it, just just.

Speaker 21 (25:19):
A day's job, almost as though he was medicated.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Almost as though he may have a problem with being
a drug cheat, which has been pointed out to me
on the text. Thanks very much for doing that. Anyway,
The commentary boxes with us after eight o'clock, so we
got plenty to because I don't know if you caught
up on what happened with the women's but it's called
a double doughnut. When you get beaten six loves, six love,
that's just embarrassing anyway, So plenty to talk through with
the commentary box after eight ten to seven, called.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Heather duper c Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with
a Vida Retirement Communities News, togs Head.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Be double bagel, Heather, It's called a double bagel, double bagel,
double doughnut, double zero's whatever.

Speaker 10 (25:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's round, it's a circle. It depends on where you
come from. Tomatoes, tomatoes. Now, this this military exercise that's
going on in Australia is called Operation Talisman Saber, and
we've sent over seven hundred of our personnel. We've sent
over a vessel, we've sent over a drone. I literally
think we've sent over just the one drone, various other
vehicles and stuff like that. Lieutenant Colonel Tim Tuteni is

(26:16):
going to wake up very early for us in the
morning in Australia and run us through those details when
he's with us after seven six away from seven, all.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
The ins and the outs.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
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to the next level.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Now, there are a couple of new features that are
going to be released by Uber that are going to
help the seniors in this country. Not saying elderly, I'm
saying seniors. Uber is releasing an industry first bee Cha.
It's called Simple Mode, and basically it's going to look
like your parents' phones when where they've dialed up the
size of the text, you know, when they've got fewer buttons,
plenty of instructions on screen to kind of just help

(26:51):
them out to navigate the thing. Then there's the other
change that has been raised many many times at the
Global Conventions for Rideshare Group. It's called the Senior Account.
And what you're going to be able to do is
you are going to be able to book the rides,
make the payment, and track how it's all going from
your phone. So rather than relying on your older family
members sometimes you know someone who's not so tech savvy

(27:14):
or whatever, someone who can do it is going to
be able to do it all themselves, so they know
it will be done right and without any kind of worry. Now,
considering that we have over nine hundred thousand Kiwis in
this country aged over sixty five years and age concerns
say they're on board for the changes, it looks like
it's going to be welcome here. I think, Look, we've
all got them in our lives. We all need to

(27:34):
help them out from time to time with the tech.
But all I want to say to you is, if
you go go ahead with this, you are enabling the behaviors. Okay,
so you get what you tolerate. You want to do this,
You're going to be booking the rides forever. Now let's
talk about the road cones. I loved the idea of
the road Cone tip line very much when it was
when it was launched, to the extent that I basically

(27:57):
allowed anybody to use my name, and many, many, many
complaints were laid in my name. But I am fast
coming to the conclusion that the road Cone tip line.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
Is a joke.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Wayne Brown was in the papers yesterday and I agree
with him on this. He says the mayor considers the
hotline to be nothing more than a pr stunt that
does nothing to address the underlying issue. And I agree
with him on that. I'll tell you why, right, because
how it works is you fill out the little road
cone tip line and they've got we're spending money on this,
it's costing us money. So they dispatch a couple of

(28:28):
people to go and have a look at the road
cones wherever you've complained about them, whether it's an in
the Giggle or New Plymouth or Auckland or whatever. They'll
send somebody out there go look at the road cones
and invariably what happens as the person gets there goes one, two, three,
ninety nine. Right now, that's allowed. They are allowed to
have ninety nine road cones. Now you and I drive past,
we go that's too many road cones. But that is

(28:48):
exactly how many road cones they need, because that is
how many road cones they are supposed to have to
keep people safe. Now, what I can't figure out. So
what you need to do is you need to change
the requirement. Right whatever is making them put out all
those road cones, that's what you need to change. No
point us narcing on them because they're not breaking the rules,
So change the rules. But what are the rules? Well,

(29:09):
I was trying to figure this out yesterday because I
think it's in the Health and safety legislation, but it
could also be in work Safe's interpretation of the health
and safety legislation and what they tell the companies to do.
So I made some phone calls about it. I'll tell
you what no one can tell you. Not the Minister's office,
Brook van Valden's office. They've got no idea. Are called labour,
They've got no idea. No one knows what you need

(29:29):
to change to change the rules. But meanwhile, meanwhile, Wellington
Water the men Wellington they had this big hole they
were digging on Taranaki Street. They spent twenty one million
dollars on that big hole, two point seven million of
it traffic management. There's basically road cones right there.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
What's going on?

Speaker 3 (29:46):
What do do you know who might know? How we
change it? Prime Minister is with us after half past seven.
Next up, though, how do we get more of those
international students? Newstig ZB.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
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and a Dupi c Allen on the mic asking Breakfast
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Speaker 3 (30:12):
Good Morning. The government's going after more international students. It's
announced a plan to double the value of our international
education sector up to seven point two billion dollars in
the next ten years.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
The plan includes extending in study work rights. Chris Wheelan
is University's New Zealand CEO and with US morning, Chris,
Good morning. Will the changes make a difference?

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Look, I hope.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
So.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
I think there's a strong ambition across universities and in
fact across the entire industry to grow, and the kind
of targets that are being set here don't actually get
us back to even our high tide mark, which was
about twenty sixteen. So it's a it's a balance. It'll
still be far less than say countries like Australia or Canada,
but it'll still it'll make sure that incestual education actually

(30:56):
gets to I think a level where it's making a
real contribution to this country.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Why aren't aiming higher?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I think there's a social license around this. I think
it's around attracting high quality students. I think we don't
want it to be a straight numbers game and We've
seen what happens overseas if you push numbers too far,
it does put a lot of pressure on, you know,
other services that are enjoyed by locals, whether it's hospitals
or schools. And you know, it's a finding a basic balance.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Do you think that extending the hours that they are
allowed to work from twenty to twenty five hours a
week will make a massive difference.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
I think it'll make a difference for some parts of
the industry, so particularly the areas that are more vocationally focused,
where students are wanted to get experienced, whether it's nursing
or it And I think, you know, it can be
a good thing. We do know that about eighty five
percent of students, the ability to be able to work

(31:53):
while they study is actually a factor that makes New
seven the very attractive destination.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
And what about considering a visa to allow them to
work for six years after they study? Is that is
that something they're quite keen to do?

Speaker 10 (32:04):
Well?

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Right now, we give basically three years post study work
rights for someone to get a degree. That's a chance
for them to find a degree level qual a degree
level employment. And you know, and we know that about
seventeen or eighteen percent. Actually take that up, and of
that seventeen or eighteen percent, ten and every eleven are
actually in degree level employment, so they're actually in well

(32:26):
paying skilled jobs and contributing to the economy.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Chris, what is it that is preventing them from coming
back in the same numbers that they used to? Why
don't they want to?

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Look, it's a competitive world out there. In saying that
international education is forecast to keep on growing around the world,
there are a lot of people in countries where they're
just aren't There isn't enough high quality education available to
them locally, or it's too competitive. And you know, getting

(32:56):
a qualification in an English speaking country is still very attractive.
Being able to do business in English with the English
speaking world, it's still a real selling point. So for us,
it's about, you know, how do we you know, how
do we put ourselves out there?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Thanks Chris, Good to talk Chris Wheland University's New Zealand CEO.
Ten past seven, Heather dup c Ellen. One of the
world's largest military exercises is underway in Australia. It's called
Operation Talisman Saber. It involves thirty five thousand personnel from
nineteen countries, including the US UK and of course ourselves.
Lieutenant Colonel Tim TUATTENI is over in Australian is with
us morning, Tim?

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Yeah, I am more than a heather.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I imagine the Chinese are watching this closely? What do
you think?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I'm not too sure they can see me at the moment, to.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Be fair or not, not our conversation, it was meaning
the operation. They're going to be out there having a
look at it, aren't they?

Speaker 13 (33:51):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
Look, you know, really we're here and I'm sure there's
an interest, but there's an interest right across in the
Pacific and that's why we're I mean, as you said
in your introduction, there's nineteen nations here. It's a large
exercise and you know Tellisman SABER is essentially a bilateral
between Australia and New Australia in our closest apply, but

(34:16):
it's also also includes a number of nations and it's
across I suppose we call it a multi domain operation exercise,
but to put it into sort of simple terms, it's
an exercise that focuses on enhancing interoperability and combat readiness
across what we call the domains, which is air, land, maritime,

(34:38):
cyber and space.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Okay, so what have you guys taken over? You've taken
a vessel? Have you just taken the one drone?

Speaker 13 (34:45):
Now?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Look, we've we've got a number of capabilities over here.
There are a number of that. There are the ships here,
we have our rotor wing, our pates, and we've also
a number of our our ground forces, our labs, our
around combat capability. Some of them have actually been here
for a month already in a number of leading exercises

(35:08):
diamonds strike we call it, and they've been here for
a month and they now transition into the talisman saber.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah. Now, tim, do you guys sit around and reflect
on the chances that you may have to go to warn?
If you do, how do you rate them?

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Look, I think this is our ability to be part
of these large certainly list exercise. I mean, historically we've
always sort of stood shoulder shoulder with our ausimates. I mean,
you know, way back you talk about the ANZACs, but
certainly through contemporary operations and even today we're serving side

(35:44):
by side in modern operations around the globe. And the
ability for us, even though we're a small part of
this very large exercise. It's our people and we're very
high quality people. Are chance to integrate small teams, individuals
and even sub units and be part of a large
exercise like this which very much. This is off our

(36:06):
training and allows us to exercise our combat readiness.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Tim, good luck, Thank you very much for your time.
Tim twatteeny, Senior National Officer, Lieutenant colonel at the NZF
And speaking of the chances of going to war, Albanesi
Anthony Alberize has been asked if Australia would follow the
US into war over Taiwan if it ever came to that.
He is declining to answer that question either.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Do for see Ellen.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
I suspect that we're going to have another debate about
slash again because I don't know if you've seen what's
gone on in the South Island, top of the South
Island this weekend. But boy, oh boy, is there slash
absolutely everywhere. I got seen to video actually for somebody
in the Nelson, Tasman area last night, furious driving down this,
driven down the road just you would not believe it.
Just slash absolutely everywhere. News websites are now starting to

(36:53):
cover it looks pretty bad. NATSI Muti, which is in
the Mutuika Valley. It's been hit particularly badly. One guy
has had the media around to his place. He's showed
them up the back of the place. There was a
small creek there, massive gouge out of the land. There
now piles of silt, splintered wood. Reckons that there's a
trail that has backed up a couple of hundred meters long.

(37:13):
He reckons. All of the stuff is washed down from
the forestry block, which is just on steep land about
two k's upstream forestry companies because they know they're going
to copy it if people get angry about this all
over again, if kids are playing on the logs and
dying at the beach again like last time. They've sent
some representatives down to have a look at it, and apparently,
according to him, the forestry representatives were left speechless. I

(37:36):
am too actually quarter past the mike.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
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Speaker 3 (37:46):
Might have an answer on the road. Cone is going
to get to that in at I can remember the
Prime Minister's with us after half past seven, back from
his holiday seventeen past seven. Right now now homeschooling is
more popular than ever. Data show that eleven four hundred
students are enrolled home education or were at least at
the end of last year. Now that is double what
it was twenty five years ago. Cynthia Hancocks is the

(38:06):
government liaison for the National Council of Home Educators and
is with us morning Cynthia.

Speaker 22 (38:11):
Good morning Heather.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Why is it so popular?

Speaker 22 (38:14):
Oh, look, there's lots of reasons and it always has been.
The Ministry doesn't gather data on why people choose to
home educate, but the National Council of Home Educators does
ask that question in our annual survey, and the majority
of respondents talk about things like desiring a closer family units,
family values more central, wanting a higher quality, tailored learning

(38:37):
education for their children. And there's a variety of other reasons.
It might be special education needs that aren't being met
in school, or wanting to avoid bullying or negative aspects
of the school system. It can be because their children
are involved in activities and the lifestyle of homeschooling gives
them more flexibility for the sports or the travel or

(38:58):
the whatever it is that might be involved.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
So one of the reasons no.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean, there's a whole bunch of reasons available, obviously,
but is any one of these actually driving, in particular
driving the increase that we've seen in recent times.

Speaker 22 (39:10):
Well again, it's speculative, really, but there's been a lot
of changes in the education system over the last you know,
six to eight years, and a lot of families are
just not that happy with what is going on.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And when you say that, Cntha, are you talking about
the actual learning that the kids are doing, Like a
parent's looking at it and saying, oh, little Johnny is
not learning enough in maths, I'm gonna have to pull
them out? Or is it what little Johnny is learning?
And by that I mean maybe some controversial stuff that
people don't love.

Speaker 22 (39:43):
I'd say it's a combination of those things. In particular,
there's a lot of concern about the quality of education.
Content is a factive for some people, but it is
quality or the outcomes their children are experiencing that I'm
not knocking the education system as such. There's some fabulous
teachers and fabulous schools. However, the overall thing is that

(40:04):
we've got stretched resources, we've got stress teachers, we've got
an increase in children with additional needs and the systems
not keeping up with that. So there's a lot of
things that end up having a flow on effect to
the quality of education that some children are experiencing.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Say, very quickly, what do you make of the fact
that if kids are homeschooled they are not allowed to
get medals if they do well at those competitions.

Speaker 22 (40:27):
Well, it's very inequitable, isn't it very unfair? If you
look at the Rights of the Child the UN Convention
on the Rights of the Child, all children have the
right to participate in cultural, recreational, et cetera activities, and
in fact, the state has an obligation under that convention
to ensure that all children have access to that, and

(40:48):
it's not dependent on where they're getting educated. So really
it is completely inequitable that students can't get medals they've earned.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Yep, it's ridiculous, Cynthia, Thanks very much. Cynthia Hancock's government
liaison for the National Council Home Educators in New Zealand.
Here they do not be too critical of the slash.
Imagine how many lizards and other precious beasties call it
home Danny, All you need to do is just give
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Speaker 3 (42:18):
I'm not even going to hide this. I hope like
hell that Labour wins the spy election. I'm talking about
the Tamakimikoto by election that's been triggered by the death
of the Maori Party MP Takatai tash Kemp. There are
only two candidates here. You can either back the Maori
Party candidate or any kaipitter, or you can back Labour's
Peni Henata. No one else is running, and Labor as

(42:38):
far as I'm concerned, needs to back this, needs to
win this. I'm backing them because I think it would
be perverse for the Maori Party to be rewarded for
their carry on in the last few months. I'm not
even talking about the Huker incident. That is not even
the worst thing as far as I'm concerned. I mean, look,
it would be unfortunate if they won because people supported
them giving the middle finger to the rules of Parliament.
I think that's a greater breach than doing the huka

(42:59):
in the first place. But that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about the constant misinformation that they spread, which
no one calls them on. Thomas Coglan of The Herald
actually did call them on it this past weekend. He
pointed out the Marty Party has gone on Instagram and
claimed that the Regulatory Standards Bill would let judges quote
strike down Maori focused laws. Well, that's not true, and

(43:20):
as he said, that's flat out wrong. Not long ago,
as he says, and he's talking about the pandemic here.
Not long ago, that kind of thing would have been
labeled misinformation. And you know how that went. Once you
got labeled with some misinformation, you got ridiculed, you got
mocked by the media, you basically got canceled. Not the
Marty Party. Their outright FIBs just get waved through, as

(43:42):
does them accusing other politicians of genocide, as does one
of them labeling a chap who outlawed homosexuality in his
country a hero. That kind of divisive, irresponsible and radical
brand of politics I would hate to see rewarded in
this by election. And yet they have a chance. It's
going to be tight. Last time, there are only forty
two votes in it and they won it. Since then,

(44:03):
they've had a huge bump in the polls, They've had
massive profile with the Treaty Principal's Bill opposition. They've had
massive global international attention with the Hucker and there is
of course the sympathy element because they are the ones
who've lost their mp But I've got my fingers crossed,
not because I love what Labour's doing, but just because
I do not want to see the Maldi Party's way
of doing politics being seen to pay dividends.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Heather dupers a crime.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
We might actually talk to him about that when he's
with us after half past seven. Hey, by the way,
school's back today, So can I just say quick, quick
congrats to all the parents who've made it through. Get
yourself a snack. You've done well. Now the Epstein thing,
the eleven So what's getting people worked up is that
eleven hour clip right there was outside his cell. It's
now been this wired. The American Tech magazine has had

(44:49):
a look at it. They reckon it was likely modified
using the professional video editing software Adobe Premiere Pro, because
there's one minute gone, right, so they've got eleven hours.
One minute has gone the original. All the claimers, oh
the camera was resetting wired reckoned. Well, there's some bit
of editing that happened here The footage was assembled from
at least two source clips. It was then saved multiple
times and exported before being uploaded to the DOJ website.

(45:12):
They're not sure that the edit is the edit, like
it could be any kind of edit. Maybe it's not
the removing of the one minute. But it's just going
to fuel those those theories, isn't it. News is next.

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Speaker 3 (45:45):
Boxes with us after eight o'clock. Right now, twenty three
away from it, we have Prime Minister Christopher Luxe and
morning Chris.

Speaker 23 (45:51):
Good morning, how are you heading? Thank you very well
for someone who's doing early mornings with two little kids.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
You're looking You're looking lovely in tanned. How was that holiday?

Speaker 23 (46:00):
Oh, it's great. I had five days off and it
was just awesome to reintroduce myself to my wife and
say hello. And we've had lots of just reading and
just lazing around. It was just awesome. Pool there was
a lot of sleep going on. Yeah, which was quite
goods just catching up.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Did you read the paper this morning?

Speaker 23 (46:17):
No, I have read the paper.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You didn't see the bit that Audrey Young has written,
which has got the headline what if the Prime Minister
fell under a bus?

Speaker 23 (46:25):
I don't plan on walking in front of any.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Hasn't it come back from holiday and Audrey's people.

Speaker 23 (46:29):
Planning your demise before you've even sort of I know
I got close to it, and I think I've got
years ahead of me.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Her piece is basically about who would take over who
do you read takeover if you fell under a bus?

Speaker 23 (46:39):
Just not a consideration at this point, and not a consideration.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
You can't control the bus, Chris. If the buskets you,
the buskets.

Speaker 23 (46:46):
Well I won't. It won't matter because I won't be
here if the bus hits me.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
So she's down to Nicola Albish or Erica or Simeon.

Speaker 23 (46:53):
Well again, what you've seen I think most Zealands will
see us that I've put together an excellent teeth. I've
taken the National Party that was a bit functional at
one point a few years back. We've got it as
a highly home machine. We've got the right people in
the right places on the right assignment. So you're proud
of all of my minister's in the right place.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Automatically, Nichola's number two, she should do it.

Speaker 23 (47:10):
Look, we're just we focused on getting on with the
job of turning New Zealand around here, as you well know.
And it's just not a consideration.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Do you do the thing that I do when I'm
on holiday, which is it gives me the chance to
step back and really percolate the issues that are bothering meat,
let them settle, and then I come back with a
real kind of drive to change something.

Speaker 23 (47:28):
I think that's exactly what happens for me as well.
I take two, what are you change? And you come
back in and you go, right, we've got eighteen months
to go. We've got to make sure that we are
really fixing this economy because people are still feeling the
pain of it. After you've had three years of high inflation.
People are still pretty tough out there.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
And so what did you come up with?

Speaker 23 (47:45):
Just know, we've just got to focus on making sure
that everything we growth.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
What are you going to do?

Speaker 10 (47:51):
Well?

Speaker 23 (47:51):
We're doing what we are, which is making sure we
get that oil and gas band reverse this quarter. That's
really important for us because we've got to get energy affordable.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
It's not bringing in any money because nobody but.

Speaker 23 (48:00):
Making sure that we can keep at altriacy prices low.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
For what are you doing, Chris? You got you went
around holiday, you thought about it, you decided the economy
is the thing that needs fixing. And the big idea
that you came back is with this.

Speaker 23 (48:10):
I'm not saying that, I'm just saying just for me,
it's always good to get a bit of perspective to say, yep. Actually,
eighteen months to go before the next sellection and the
New Zealand people will making decision as to which way
they want to go. What they've got to be reassured
about is that this progress being made on the economy,
that actually are we safer in law and order terms,
and are we getting better results in health and education.
So that's why just I come back and go, yeah,
I'm actually I'm really comfortable with the plan that we've got.

(48:31):
I think the plan is starting to work. We're dealing
with the biggest recession we've had since ninety ninety one.
We're turning the joint around it bloom and hard work. Yeah,
we have to face into some tough decisions. But we're
doing that well. But we've got to focus on getting
results for people, and that just you just redouble that
you get clarity about it, saying we'll actually everything's got
to be driving towards them.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
Let's have a look at the supermarkets. Do you like
David Seymore's idea of fast tracking a supermarket a third
If a third entrant wants to come into the country,
you give them fast track as many supermarkets as they
went without having to apply for each.

Speaker 23 (48:58):
To be honest, national loves far tra I mean from
day one. Bishop and Jones are the guys that have
put in place on planning laws and infrastructure, and they
did it. They got going with it. It's fice to
say Niicla Willis is all over fast track and considering
it in the space around supermarkets has been for some time.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
So this she may do this to help the super.

Speaker 23 (49:15):
I don't want to get ahead of herself because she's
got a process that she's following and she's doing everything
we can to leave no stone unturned, you know, to
make sure that there is doing everything we can to
get a third operator in or to do everything to
get the settings right. And one of those things is
we're up fast track. I mean we love fast track.
I mean it was a national part of New Zealand.
First corruption you know that we put together from day
one to try and shock the system to actually get

(49:36):
things built of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Just say corruption, did you?

Speaker 23 (49:38):
Yeah, a construction.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Sorry, it's very little sleep still here that I'm still
a little like, bro, what are you going to do
about the brain drain? Because those numbers are worring?

Speaker 23 (49:48):
Yeah, look, I mean just a bit of context. Go
back and look at the GFC. There was six years
there when the numbers were higher the last year of labor.
This our first year and twenty four same numbers. Really,
it just underscores why do people go to Australia they
think they can earn more income. We've got to make
sure they can earn more income and hire and comes
here in New.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Zealand because it sucks here. Right, It's because in their opinion,
it sucks here.

Speaker 23 (50:07):
But christ but that's what that's my job, right as
our job is to make sure that if you're going
to work hard, you can get ahead, if you actually
can walk the streets and feel safe in your community. Actually,
you feel like the education system for your kids is
going to be gets setting them up.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Well.

Speaker 23 (50:18):
Actually, appearance they any healthcare support, they can get access
to it. So that's why it's pretty boring. But those
are the things that we're very focused on.

Speaker 22 (50:25):
Right.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
But it's eighteen months in right, so I feel like
at this stage what they are leaving for, they are
leaving because you haven't changed things yet.

Speaker 23 (50:33):
Well, we're dealing with the biggest recession since we've had
since the early nineties. That's been clear about. It's been
worse than the GFC. As I said to you, you know,
we're doing making sure that inflanation's coming down and tranest
rates are coming down. We're giving people tax relief. We've
got the economy growing. You would have seen in the
first quarter results that we grew the economy four times
faster than Australia and many Western economies. YEP, it's tough, Yes,

(50:54):
it's hard. Yes, it's a grind as we get the
car out of the ditch and turned up the right
way and into first and second gear.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
But apart from the slogans, what have you actually done?
I mean, apart from yeah, absolutely you gave the tax
concession and the budget. Well, it's a fazz thing, right.

Speaker 23 (51:06):
If you really care about people a lower middle income
working New Zealanders, you run the economy well, so you
don't increase government'spenning eighty four percent that drives inflation to
seven points.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
We haven't read increased it very much.

Speaker 13 (51:16):
Well, we have.

Speaker 23 (51:17):
Actually, we've actually saved twenty three billion dollars last year,
twenty one billion this year and reprioritized that spending into
the frontline services and being able to invest more in health,
more in education.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
All again, Yeah, you've spent it on something.

Speaker 23 (51:28):
We've redestroyed it and reprioritized it from the back office,
as we've said, to the frontline, and that's been a
good result. So, I mean, the things that we're doing
to get our kids back to school, to get them
to do maths and reading and the basics and education
well are great. We put a record investment into healthcare.
We've got more workforce being hired, more nurses, more doctors
being hired than we've ever had in this country. We've
got clarity on the out on the results. We're starting

(51:50):
to see a little bit of improvement on those weightless
times for things like elective surgeries. They went up. I
mean we had a thousand people on the weight list
when we left government. We had twenty eight thousand when
we came back to go okay, So using private hospitals, well,
I know that those we.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Know, the last lot stuffed it up. I'm just looking
for you guys to actually show us that you're fixing
it on the road cones. What are you actually doing
about the road cones? What do we supporse? What can
we do here to get rid of these road codes?

Speaker 23 (52:13):
Yeah, so Chris Biship's doing something which is the pressures
on the counts. First of all, if you zoom out,
we spend seven hundred and fifty million dollars three quarters
of a billion dollars on traffic management through the NZTA,
A lone.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
The road counter, right, so what do we actually need
to do.

Speaker 23 (52:28):
What's going to happen is Chris Bishop will be linking
funding to councils based on a risk making sure they
take a risk based approach to road cone management. Because
what's happening is it's actually sitting with councils.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
That's where so there is nothing that you can change
about regulations or least.

Speaker 23 (52:42):
Watch the space. Chris Bishop's working that up with some
more to say about that and what you'll have more
to say about it shortly, do you know what it is?

Speaker 13 (52:48):
It is?

Speaker 23 (52:49):
But basically what he's saying is we want to see
councils take what's called a risk based approach to management
of clients, and he will link the funding that councils
get from central government to that task of making sure.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
How do you so, how do you do that?

Speaker 3 (53:00):
How can you possibly do that? So do you have
somebody who goes there and stands look you and says
you should have fifty cones here, but you've got five hundred.
So we're cutting your funde?

Speaker 23 (53:08):
Well, yeah, your fund you're making assessment about how much
money is needed as part of the projects that the
central government funds and partnership with local government.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
As I said, so they won't have enough money for
all of the road code.

Speaker 23 (53:19):
Well, they'll make sure that. He'll make sure that the
funding is provided on making sure that the councils have
implemented as we called a risk based approach. And we've
got sensible stuff going on around road cones, not dumb stuff. Okay,
you can drive around this country. You see road cones
up all up and down the country. We're all over it.
I'd just say NZTA. Already they've started to decrease the
spending that they've got on road cones already. They was,
as I said, they're spending three quarters of a billion

(53:40):
dollars just from.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Central Let me understand this. So, are you decreasing how
much money they're allowed to have for the road cones
or are you saying if you have too many road cones,
we cut your funding.

Speaker 23 (53:49):
We're going to make sure that they actually change their
policies that when they're putting road cones in place for
projects that councils are undertaking on local roads and all
that stuff where the problems often sit, that they are
actual if they haven't yet, They've got to make sure
they've got a risk based approach. They've actually got as
minimal road cones as they need to keep people safe
but not inconvenience people, and CRESS will link funding to that.
That's all I'm going to say about that. That's the

(54:10):
mechanism that is.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Whin's this announcement coming.

Speaker 23 (54:12):
It'll be within the next month or so.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Okay, is it an MCTA problem They're the ones writing
the rules.

Speaker 23 (54:17):
Well, no, there's two bits to it. The government does
obviously maintenance of state highways, okay, and then local councils
do maintenance of local roads. As I said that we
had no visibility over how much central government was spending
on road codes. We found out at seven and seven
hundred and fifty million dollars. They've already NCATA started to
build the risk management stuff into what they're doing and
that cost is coming down, which is a good thing.

(54:39):
And we've got to make sure that councils when they
actually fund the private roads, they're public roads, local roads.
Actually they're doing the same thing. And that's why we'll
link the funding to that approach to managing codes.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Do you are you rooting for Labor in the by election?

Speaker 13 (54:52):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (54:52):
Look, I mean god knows, because I mean the question
is whether are they going to have a fear fight
or is going to be a pillow fight because you know,
I felt sorry for Peenie here or a last time
because frankly, Chris Heptins didn't challenge that close results and
sort of hung them out to dry. Let's be clear
whether it's to Party MARII or Labour. Frankly, they've got
the same crazy policies, you know, which is being more
bodib more respect crime at least one of the respects

(55:13):
of the rules around health and education outcomes, you know,
like that, it's the same thing. And they want to
be they want to be in government with these guys, right,
they want to Labor wants to be a power to
party Marty. So, I mean, it's that's going to be
fascinating to watch.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Do you not agree though? At least labor respects the
rules and the media doesn't give them.

Speaker 23 (55:27):
A free labor economic vandals and mismanagers on an extraordinary scale,
soft on crime, andsmal healthy education.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Now you go to your lines out all right, Hey,
thank you very much, Chriss, loving to have you back.
Good to see you, Chris Lux and Prime Minister thirteen
away from it.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
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Speaker 3 (55:48):
That we're not scraping barnacles off the boat now we're
getting the car out of the ditch. Come back from holiday, Heather,
Has he come back with a vision for the country, No,
just the word salad of nothing. Hither theomy has got
worse under national Heather. It took six years to wreck
the country. You cannot fix that in eighteen months, which
is a fair point. Which is a fair point, but
surely in eighteen months you would at least start showing

(56:10):
that you're doing something about it.

Speaker 23 (56:12):
We're up for fast track or we love fast track.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Hmm yeah.

Speaker 10 (56:15):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
By the way, though that I think, I think if
there's one thing that we got out of that that
we should take some heart from, it's that possibly David
Seymour's idea of the supermarket thing, where you fast track
the supermarkets so they can have they could just get
permission to open about ten of them at once, rather
than going one by one, you know, taking three years
thirty years before you get a supermarket. At least that
idea is probably it sounds like got some traction with them, Heather.

(56:39):
It's the traffic management organizations that set the policy for
how many road cones are required. Hither, I cannot believe
that you spent so much of the valuable time you
had talking to the Prime Minister about road cones. I'm sorry,
but there are more bloody serious issues in the country
to be talking about now. That is an absolutely fair point. However,
I think, can I just make this case to you
that the road cone situation, I think is emblematic of

(57:01):
what is going on with this government at the moment.
So we all know we've got an issue. So it's
an emblem right, We've got an issue with the road cones.
There are too many of them out there. So the
government comes out goes, hey, listen, we've got the tip line.
Let's sort it out with the tip line. So we all,
you know, get excited about the tip line. Is it
actually changing the fundamental problem? No it isn't. In which case,
what is it. It's just a performance and I think

(57:21):
there's too much of that going on. Is there anything
changing about the supermarkets? Get No, there isn't. They've written
letters that ask for RFIs it's just a performance. Is
there anything changing about the cost of living in the
butter No, there isn't. They've called Fronterra in for a meeting.
Is anything going to change, No it isn't. So road
cones are I think if you think, hmm, what's going on,
just think about the road cones. They're pretending to change

(57:43):
things and nothing's actually changing. Eight away from a.

Speaker 23 (57:45):
Yes, it's a grind. As we get the car out
of the ditch, and turned up the right way and
into first the second gear.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
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Speaker 3 (57:56):
How can the government reduce the price of butter when
they don't control the expls prices and those same export
prices are keeping this country afloat after a complete financial
blowout by label Well, I think we know you can't
listen if you're worried about forever chemicals, right, and there
are quite a few people worried about this. Now it's
like the latest thing you had, the BPA. Now you've
got the forever chemicals. If you're worried about that, I've
got some good news for you. There's some new research

(58:18):
that reckons it's you can actually get them out of
your body. It's not totally forever. It just from the
University of Cambridge. They reckon that there are some gut
microbes that absorb them and then they help you know,
you basically poop them out. The good news is especially
good news because up to now there has only been
a couple of ways that you've been able to get
rid of the old forever chemicals out of your body.
One of them was a cholesterol drug that was pretty

(58:40):
gross to take. The other one was bloodletting, which is
pretty intense anyway, Several of the author's studies reckon what
they need to do is just develop probiotic dietary supplements
that will boost those microbes and the gut, the human gut,
and then outcomes the forever chemicals.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
For you have about the microplastics and the heavy metals,
Can we do those as well?

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Or no?

Speaker 10 (59:00):
Not yet.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Now we're just stealing on one thing aat of time,
one thing at a time. Yet get that car out
of that ditch?

Speaker 13 (59:06):
Now?

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Is this weird? I think this is weird, But I
also don't want to be sort of, you know, overreacting
to things. But my bank sent me the other day,
and perhaps other people are having this. My bank sent
me the other day and a letter which I don't
really enjoy getting, and the leader just outlined, outlined all
my my loan detail. I didn't like looking at that,
so I threw it away. So I emailed them and
I said, I don't need that because I've got an app,

(59:29):
and I look at it on the app and I
know exactly what's going on. Don't send it to me,
and they said to me, you cannot opt out of this.
We are now sending all of our customers their loan
details and you know what they're up, Yeah, up to
your gills and debt. Blah blah blah. We're going to
send it in the mail. Thank you for your response.
At this stage you are not able to opt out
and again noted your concerns providing feedback to our team

(59:50):
which will help them to decide if you can have
the option of Well is this just me? And are
they worried about me? Or is this something that everybody's
having to do?

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Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
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Jason Pine lads. Hello morning, ki hear that sav Sinner
wins Wimbledon. What do you think?

Speaker 14 (01:01:30):
I just can't warm to this guy A little bit
like Djokovic, I suppose, But he's a he's done well
since he came back from his drug layoff.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
That's why that's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Why I was asking you that question, Save, because it's
a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:01:46):
Look, look, he's a he's a good tennis Player's he's well,
he's a hicck of a tennis play. He's always been
destined for the for the top. I think he was
an outstanding junior as well. And look, tennis here the
needs rivalries to to get into the public eye and
to succeed, and I've got one here in ciner Alchaaz,
So I think it's it's really good for the game

(01:02:08):
of tennis. Women's. On the other hand, when you win
a Grand Slam final six love, six love, and this
does happen sometimes in finals where one player just falls
over totally, a few concerns of women's tennis that just
doesn't have the depth.

Speaker 13 (01:02:22):
That used to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, what do you reckon happen there? Piney? I mean, jeez,
that is that's an absolute down trowling, isn't it.

Speaker 25 (01:02:29):
Yeah, it's it's the worst time to get what they
call the double bagel, the six love, six love. Anisimova
just no match for fion Tech. I think Fiontech's very
very good player. You know, she's been in six Grand
Slam finals now and won them all. She was only
the eighth seed, So it's a I mean, whereas Sinner

(01:02:49):
and Alcaraz are clearly the top two in the men's game,
there are you know, any number of players who can
on their day do okay in the women's game. But yeah,
Sav's right when you when you pay money for a
Grand Slam final and you settle down with your strawberries
and cream and your poms or whatever it is that
you're that you're enjoying in the game's all over in

(01:03:10):
less than an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Wellmotion, they're distressing as well, isn't it to watch that happen?
Like that's like horror?

Speaker 13 (01:03:17):
Over?

Speaker 25 (01:03:18):
Yeah, over as well, it's it's I just have to
go move on, I guess, But I was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Just thinking feeling piney for the crowd. I mean, sitting
there watching somebody get demolished. Is it's just rough? It's not.
That's not pleasurable, is it?

Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
No? I guess not. I guess not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
It was being completely and utterly selfish. I'm not going
to lie about it now. Sav What do you think
of Christian Horner getting the sack?

Speaker 14 (01:03:42):
A little bit shocking to come during the season, but
at the same time not not completely because he'd been
at odds with the stapp and family. I think Max
gets on with them, okay, but he's a prickly He's
a prickly man. There were there reence cident?

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
Was it last year?

Speaker 13 (01:04:01):
Was a staff member?

Speaker 14 (01:04:04):
He winds everybody up in the pits from other teams,
which which I suppose that's one of his key jobs
is to win and get under people's skin. Look, there's
no doubt about it that Red Bulls had an immense
success under Christian Horner, but recent times suggests they're on
the wing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Piney, do you think that this changes the game at
all when you're thinking about what happens with Max for Stappin,
what happens with Liam Lawson? Does it change the calculation?

Speaker 13 (01:04:32):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 25 (01:04:35):
All reports are that for Stappin is looking around at
other options at the end of this season. You know,
it's it's been a very challenging season for Red Bull.
What's for stap In one two of the last twelve
Formula One races. He is still an absolute genius, but
there's clearly something wrong with the car as far as
you know, people's ability to drive it and certainly the

(01:04:57):
second seat.

Speaker 13 (01:04:58):
I mean, so notas be been nowhere.

Speaker 25 (01:05:01):
Lawson was given the flick after two races and probably
is quite thankful for that now that he's in the
Racing Bull stable. When this happened goes, If that happens,
obviously there will be a refresh in that Red Bull team.
Will will Liam be back and the Red Bull team
don't know either.

Speaker 14 (01:05:17):
I would imagine they've done. Red Bull's done this to
try and retain backs for staffing because his talk He's
off to Mercedes, right, yeah, yeah, have you have you
watched Drive to Survive?

Speaker 13 (01:05:25):
If? Oh really?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Well yeah, well.

Speaker 14 (01:05:30):
What were you doing on your maternity leave?

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
Try living? Trying to survive? Okay, but I know that
it's Look, it's on my list. I've got to get
through to Cinder's book and then a bunch of other
books and then I'm going to get to Drive to Survive.

Speaker 14 (01:05:45):
But tell me what you were going to say about it,
your will to watch anything or read anything after reading
that book, it will have totally vanished getting there by
that stage. No, he just again, he he he. He's
a prickly character. He has been with Toto Wolf, the
head of Mercedes, quite quite entertaining at times. But and again,

(01:06:06):
sport needs us here, ies needs as villains. Clearly, red
Ball making a move to try and keep the step.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
You're two villainous in the end. Now, listen, this idea
of an O n Z Invitational fifteen sounds like we
need to ditch this quick, smart Piney or am I
being harsh?

Speaker 25 (01:06:23):
Or the rugby game on Saturday night against the Lions yeah, yeah,
well yeah, I'd look at the scoreboard forty eight. Now
it's some similar to what happened in the Wimbledon Women's final,
isn't it. It's Look, I don't mind the I don't
mind the concept. They clearly had a spare Saturday nights
on the tour before we get to the Test matches
that they wanted to fill in some fashion.

Speaker 13 (01:06:44):
I didn't watch the game, I go on from the
All Blacks. I was pretty rinsed.

Speaker 25 (01:06:47):
I saw some highlights, and I mean, when you when
you don't score a point in a game of rugby,
things haven't gone well for you, let alone conceding forty
eight at the other end.

Speaker 13 (01:06:57):
Look, I don't mind the idea, and.

Speaker 25 (01:07:00):
The team actually looked okay on paper, but clearly no
match for a British and Irish Lions team that's been
together now for the best part of a month to
six weeks and is really starting to hit its straps
against the Test ahead of the Chest series.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Sav Are you happy with what you saw from the
All Blacks?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Yes, generally hit it first half very good.

Speaker 14 (01:07:42):
The quick type of football there trying to play worked
much better effort at the breakdown from the All Blacks
a much more umph.

Speaker 10 (01:07:50):
Kicking game was better.

Speaker 14 (01:07:52):
Not entirely satisfied with the kicking game in general, but
better in patches. And I thought that the first half
they looked absolutely unbeatable. Our second half few eras you know,
their benches are clear games tend to lose their way,
few more eras from the All Blacks. I'll be wanting
to tidy that up. The big question here that well,
a couple of points. Now what You've got to take

(01:08:13):
this into context. You're playing a French team that had
whatpped ten changes third string players, so that needs to
be put into some sort of context. But at least
the All Blacks played well, getting confidence up, installing new
game plans. Big question is how many changes will they
make for Hamilton, because I'm sure they'd want to whap

(01:08:34):
the French again and win in comfortably and convincingly the
series three zip.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Yeah, probably need a bit of that, but you know,
just to give themselves a bit of a confidence boost.
But party, what do you reckon? What happened here? Was
it that they blew the cobwebs out in the first game?

Speaker 13 (01:08:48):
Yeah, I think there was part of that.

Speaker 25 (01:08:50):
I think we also got an inflated view of how
good France are in Dunedin, largely because the All Blacks
weren't anywhere close to where they could have been. You're right,
week together, they got rid of a bit of rust,
got some combinations going that sort of thing. Yeah, I
think this is a pretty pretty deflated French side now
heading to Hamilton. Well, they're not even going to Hamilton,

(01:09:10):
are they They're going to Auckland. They'll probably jump off
the sky tower, head out to Wahiki Island and do
some stuff like that. I fear for them on on
Saturday night in Hamilton, if I'm honest, Heather, I think
they will ring the changes to the All Blacks. But
the guys who come in the likes of Reuben Love
and Noah host Them and others who haven't had an
opportunity in the series will be absolutely fizzing to you know,

(01:09:32):
to catch the eye of the coach. So I think
this has headed in a very similar way to to
what we saw on Saturday night.

Speaker 13 (01:09:39):
The All Blacks look good. As I've said in the
first half, thought they.

Speaker 25 (01:09:41):
Were terrific to Porvai continues to stand out on that
six jersey.

Speaker 13 (01:09:47):
He'll miss the weekend. He's taking aheadnock.

Speaker 25 (01:09:49):
But you know, I like the way he goes about
things and cam Royguard for me, just continues to prove
what a terrific half back he is.

Speaker 8 (01:09:59):
Is it what?

Speaker 13 (01:09:59):
Sorry?

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (01:09:59):
Two? Work?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Our boy?

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
Isn't he?

Speaker 13 (01:10:02):
I think he might be? Yeah, I always just treated
him as a hurricane.

Speaker 14 (01:10:05):
Really what I think he I think he grew up
in Cambridge. I think he's but but he's played a
lot of his football in the in the counties area.

Speaker 12 (01:10:14):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
See he's one of me. It's basically my cousin. Did
you see sav By the way this was pointed out to.

Speaker 10 (01:10:20):
Me, are you from there?

Speaker 14 (01:10:21):
Are you a Steeler?

Speaker 25 (01:10:22):
Are you?

Speaker 10 (01:10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Took our hard two six three two six nine something
like that phone number. You know, if you think you're
a little fun you run around with the first three digits,
which is what we did.

Speaker 14 (01:10:31):
Did you see he plays with a bit of that
sort of duplicicy alum fire and his belly Cam roy Gard,
he's playing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Hell yeah, I'm going to take that as a compliment.
Thanks for that, Sam. Did you see the stunt that
the Saphas pulls, by the way, speaking of duplessy people,
they pulled against Italy. Did you see them?

Speaker 13 (01:10:48):
Yes? I did.

Speaker 14 (01:10:48):
I saw the kickoff? Talk about what's World Right be
going to do?

Speaker 10 (01:10:54):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:10:54):
They're probably going to come up with a rule that
you can't do that you restart, but not a kickoff
that the rule makers will be sitting there in Dublin
the head off of scratching their heads over this. Good on?
So in Africa though, why not? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Yeah, we're gonna have to come back to that.

Speaker 10 (01:11:08):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I can't not deal with the Warriors. I mean, this
is Mike's show, right, So Piney is their life after
Luke Metcalf.

Speaker 25 (01:11:15):
Well it looks like it. Yeah, it's only the West Tigers.
Letst I get two carried away. They're not a great team.
I thought Tanner Boyd was good and has certainly earned
the opportunity to continue to wear that seven jersey. They've
got tougher games ahead, but it was important that they
won this game off the back of what a couple
of buyers and a couple of losses. Lekka Hellasima Heather.

(01:11:36):
This kid, he's only nineteen years old. My god, what
a player he could be. So yeah, I think there
were some nice green shoots there yesterday for the Warriors.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
Can he though, and I'm talking about ton of boyd here?
Can he sav take them to the playoffs?

Speaker 13 (01:11:50):
Big question?

Speaker 14 (01:11:51):
You always need a you need a star six and
seven and or to make the finals and to push
for a title. I don't know, did you. Let's see
when they come up against some top teams. I think
they got the Knights next week, not a top top team,
but let's just see consistency wise, and let's see against

(01:12:13):
big name teams what he can do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yeah, brilliant stuff. Guy's good to talk to you. Thank you.
That's the commentary box Andrew Saville and Jason Pine. Yeah,
I'll tell you about what the South Africans did. Also,
the boss went to a dog hotel. You got to
hear about this. I think twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Here the duplicy Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Bailey's Real Estate News dogs, they'd be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
So this is what the South Africans did at the
start of their game against Italy, right, So they take
the kick off, tiny little punt, just a tiny little whoopy,
and a player runs up grabs it offside immediately for
forces a penalty. They force the penalty and then as
a result they call they get a scrumb awarded against them,
and they scrum. And the point of that, the reason
they did that was in order to be able to

(01:12:57):
do with scrum, because they were backing themselves on the
old scrum and thought that they would be better than
the Italians, and on a good day they would be.
But unfortunately, this time their balls the scrum up and
they lost it. However, However, as Sam was saying, wild
Rugby is going to have a good long think about
this now, Aren't that because they don't want the game
to start with a scrum because scrum suck. Scrums are

(01:13:17):
really boring. Nobody wants to watch that in the first
ten seconds of a game, do they anyway? Don't know,
I don't quite know how they're going to deal with
it because it seems like a legit move. And but
by the way, on that Mike Cron, the Master of
all scrums, is going to be on the show later
this week, so I'm just gonna hit him with the
scrum suck idea and see where we go with that.
I think it's going to go down as well as
me telling Damien McKenzie that maybe we should stop kicking.

(01:13:41):
Although you will notice that they did that in the game.
They took the advice and they didn't kick that much
and look what happened. You're welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:13:48):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Eight twenty six. Now the boss has gone. The boss
was very excited this weekend she's coming and he's told
me about it. Extremely exciting. They went to treat themselves.
They went to a hotel this weekend, he and his
wife with the corgies. It's a dog hotel. It's one
where they make a fuss of the corkies. And so
he said it was just the most cute thing because
they had all these attendants coming in to help the corkies.

(01:14:10):
That one person came in and brought the corgie some beds.
Another one came in and brought the corgies the menus
and you could choose anywhere. It's about six different options
to feed the corkies. It was steaked out air with
a little egg on the top, or there was some
risotto with either a pork or something. I don't really know. Anyway,
they took the corgies down to dinner. The corgies had
their meal, they were having their The corgi's food was
apparently better than the human food, and they just thought

(01:14:33):
it was. They just no regrets about spending five hundred
dollars on the dog experience. Now as somebody who doesn't
own a dog, you realize I don't know if he
realizes how mental that sounds. That sounds mental to me.
Does it sound mental to you? I'm just wondering if
dogs are the new children, like, take your dog out
and enjoy it instead of your children. News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
The only report you need to start your day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Heather Duper c Allen on the mic, asking breakfast with
the land Rover Discovery, never stop discovering news.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Dogs head be Heather, Dogs beat children anytime. I've got
five kids and I've got two dogs, and the dogs
dogs weren't easily. I noticed you didn't put your name
on that text, and I probably would do the same
thing if I was you. It gets worse, by the way,
than what I just told you before. So one of
the doggies is called Ernie, Ernie the Corky. Ernie's got

(01:15:29):
his own. You can go on Instagram. You look up
and Ernie Ernie the Corky. You can see Ernie's life
is laid out in full detail for you. Boss came
in before after I chatted and said I had to
look at these meals. I had a look at them.
I thought, she's I'd eat that like that. Risotto had
a lot of really gigantic get amami beans in it
that looked actually delicious. Anyway, So Ernie the Corgy is

(01:15:50):
the one that's been around the longest. He's been with
him for ten years. He had his tenth birthday a
couple of weeks ago, and they threw a surprise birthday,
as in, they surprised Ernie, given that Ernie can't speak English.
I feel like everything is a surprise for Ernie in
his life, but this was a particularly big surprise. Strapped
one of those little cork cone hats on his head
and they kept him in the bedroom and everybody came.

(01:16:11):
Forty two people were at this party, some of them
had flown in from christ Church, and everybody waited and
opened the doors Ernie. And you should have seen the
look on Ernie's face. Ernie came galloping down that corridor.
He was so excited, and he looked at everybody and
they had a party fro him. At this point, I
couldn't ask any more questions because I was like, I'm
already kind of like my mind is blown. I don't

(01:16:33):
want to know if there was cake or special Ernie
food or anything, because already I'm it's an alternative case.
You can do those things, can you? Anyway? I feel
considerably less bad about all the times I talk about
my children on air and to you, to you and
to my work mates. When I go on and on
about my children, I feel less bad about it, because

(01:16:55):
at least they're human. Anyway away, he sounds pretty even
to me. It's twenty one away from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Out of Australia Correspondent Leslie Yeomans's last morning, Leslie.

Speaker 26 (01:17:12):
Morning, I'm invested in Ernie now too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Yeah, you're going to go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
And follow the Instagram. It's actually worth it.

Speaker 26 (01:17:17):
It's actually talk about yeah two yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Better than children. Tell me about your women. You've been
bringing them move into the country.

Speaker 5 (01:17:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:17:28):
Look, these two French women have come in from Southeast
Asia and they've had thirty two kilograms of metham fetterment
in their luggage. Now they've been picked up at Brisbane Airport.
They were nineteen and twenty years old. They have, as
I said, have come in from Southeast Asia, but they're
not the first. The week before there were two others

(01:17:49):
who also were picked up with a large quantity of
drugs in their luggage and Federal Police believed that actually
obviously more people have been involved in in getting them here,
but they've also they've also come through other countries to
get here. Now they've appeared in court and they're going
they're going to be a reappearing out later in the year.

(01:18:12):
So they're obviously in custody. But it's sort of worrying
that this thirty two kilograms of mes anfetamine. That's a
lot to fill your cases up and thirty million dollars
on street value, so quite a lot of that stuff
that they thought they'd be able to sort of smuggle in,
which is a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
Yeah, totally listen. This backpacker who's been found after almost
two weeks in the outback is incredibly lucky, isn't.

Speaker 26 (01:18:39):
She extremely lucky? Carolina Wilga eleven nights she spent in
the Wa Outback. Now she lived or spent time in
a couple of caves where she was in freezing conditions
overnight the Wa outback, even though it's sort of considered
quite hot through the day, it gets freezing overnight. She

(01:19:02):
was living off no food, but she was living off
rain water and water sort of that she found in puddles.
Her car was founder, her van was found the day
before she was. And they're worried about people obviously going
into the outback thinking that they're well prepared. She thought
she was well prepared until she wasn't because she didn't

(01:19:24):
have an EPERB emergency beacon with her. She was sort
of found after eleven days. It's quite miraculous that she
was actually found alive. She's still in hospital and she's
still recovering. And the Wa Premier, Roger Corcus, that have said,
you know, you just can't take anything for granted when
you're out there, you should not be complacent. She's not

(01:19:46):
the first tourist who's been lost in the outback, and
she probably won't be the last. Just you hope that
people are sort of a bit smarter thinking that they
can get away without having all the proper emergency equipment
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Absolutely, Leslie, thanks very much and day les the Yeomans
of Australia. E per babe. That's the one thing you
always packing your bag eating away.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
From nine together, Duplessy Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Now, so far, the one thing that is absolutely sure
about that information from the cockpit of the air and
Deia crash, which was released over the weekend is that
it's left everyone even more confused, probably than we were before,
because it seems really what we now ok we now
know that what happened is that somehow the fuel got
shut off to the engines and that's what caused the

(01:20:28):
plane to lose thrust. But then we know that the
fuel got turned on again to the engines and that
is why one of the engines was firing up at
the point. You know, if only it had been just
if only, if only that had a bit more time
that engine would have been able to fire up and maybe,
who knows, get the plane up again. One of them
was firing up, the other one had been turned on
but hadn't yet fired up. What is weird about this

(01:20:49):
is it's really unlikely that one of the pilots would
have accidentally brushed those levers to turn it off right,
because you can't do that. You have to pull the
lever up the switch. You have to pull it up
and then flick it like turn it, switch it, push
it whatever. If you pull it up first in order
to basically unlock it. You can't just brush your arm
past it and whoop, see I turned it off right?

(01:21:09):
So in which case did a pilot do it without thinking?
Was it sort of one of those ones where you
accidentally pressed the button before you even think that you've
pressed the button, and then you're like, oh, gee, I
pressed the button. I better unpress the button. Was one
of those. All that we've got at the moment is
a recording of one pilot asking the other pilot why
did he do the cutoff, to which the other pilot
says he didn't. But we don't know who's asking who

(01:21:32):
is it? The monitoring pilot is it the flying pilot,
if the pilot, If the pilot didn't do it, then
who did it?

Speaker 10 (01:21:37):
Would was?

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
You know, like just all it's done, is this left
us was a thousand different questions we didn't have beforehand.
Now this is supposed to be sort of like a placeholder.
You get this information out and then the final report
comes out years from now. But you know, families are
pretty unhappy about it. Everybody's scratching their head and feeling
weird about it. I hardly think it is a sufficient placeholder.
I would imagine more information will have to come out

(01:21:59):
to satisfy people's questions. I suppose sixteen away from nine the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Hey, do you remember that case of the nurse who
went and got some surgery done in India and then
paid like a fraction of the cost of what she
would have had to pay. Here, I've got another case
of that. I'm going to run you through that before
the end of the program, just so that you know
what's going on with Bojo in his life. He's been
out doing karaoke. That's what a night with Bojo sounds

(01:22:31):
like that's not Bojo on the bike, but he's participating
right next door to the mike. He's singing at a
night club in Capri. At some point he's just not
even a shy right about the partying that he's doing.
At some point he's down in champagne, straight from the bottle.
I think it's a dom. He's waving some Union Jack flags.
He's bursting into song while he's dancing on a table.

(01:22:53):
He is not going to be in trouble with Carrie,
who's his wife, because Carrie's there at help bust one.
And this is a bit I love the most about it.
She's got their two month old daughter, Poppy, strapped to
the front of her in a front pack. Eh. So
there's your life goals if you have children. Twelve away
from nine. Got another case of why we should have
minimum sentences, right, I'm going to bring these to you

(01:23:15):
until we get the minimum sentences, because I think we're
going to have to agitate for these. Chap's name is
Jacob Matthiah, twenty three years old. He got in trouble
for ramming the gate of the New Mormon Temple, the
one that they've built on staate O one thereby Manikow
in Auckland also tried to choke a nurse. Anyway, got
ten months home ded. This is how it goes. January
the fourth, just before sunrise, he runs into a traffic

(01:23:36):
light directly in front of the Manichaw police station. So
the cops come out and they go, oh, how are
you going, and he's oh, it's confused, so they charge
him with driving carelessly. A couple of days later, January
the sixth, he's having a lot of burg New Year's
Eve party this guy. Two days later, January the sixth,
half past midnight, he arrives at the Mormon church, which
is not that far away from the police station. By

(01:23:58):
the way, we had the crash two days earlier. He's
driving out. Different car this time, smashes through the entry barrier. Impact,
destroys the gates, causes them to fly off their hinges
attached to the structural poles holding them up. Then drives
to the front of the church, parks beside the main entry,
goes up to the front door, starts punching it, elbowing it,
head butting it causes the glass panes on the door
to smash. He's arrested, charged with intentional damage three o'clock

(01:24:22):
that day, not quite finished with the run of bad behavior,
he's at Middlemore. The cops have obviously taken him there.
They're getting his wounds tidied up in stuff. Male nurses
doing it without any warning. He pulls the nurse close,
wraps his legs around the nurse, wraps his fearm forearm
around the nurse's neck, and starts strangling the nurse. Punches
the nurse in the head about five times. Other staff
intervene and he releases his grip. Then he starts chasing

(01:24:43):
the other staff, grabs a doctor around the neck. Medical
staff intervene and stop him. So he's got three more charges.
Now he's got assault of the nurse with intent to injure,
impeding breathing, and common assault of the doctor. Anyway, the
cop prosecutor wants him in jail, but the judge says
his relative youth at twenty three, remorse and openness to
rehab make a non custodial sentence the most appropriate. Not

(01:25:06):
the first time he's had interaction with the cops, you
will be surprised to hear he had been charged with
five months earlier with drink driving in Auckland Central. Anyway,
by the time he got to court this past week
had already spent two months in custody, four months on
an electronically monitored bracelet. Judge says, it's clear you've had
a difficult upbringing, including some violence and poverty and a
lack of supported key times. Don't want to chuck you

(01:25:28):
in jail. Community detention would be a step too fast,
So ten months home d Manikow District Court Judge Ian Carter.
That is why we need minimum sentences, don't you think
ten away from nine?

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Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Together do for sel you hear that what we.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Need to do is stop allowing the discounts on sentences.
I tend to agree with there's one of the problems.
Absolutely stix away from nine.

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Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Now it's not just comedians who can deal with Heckler's
pretty well, what about the skuy orders. Our Tom Homan
can deal with him, just in his own special way.
He was making a speech at the Turning Point USA
conference when a man started yelling, asking him if he
was a member of MS thirteen and he just let loose.

Speaker 27 (01:27:12):
They got marins like this are the country.

Speaker 11 (01:27:16):
This guy, this guy want nose like the surface nation.
This guy ain't got the balls to be a nice officer.
The other got the balls pretty up, ba Origan. This
guy who lives in his mother's basement, And is it.

Speaker 13 (01:27:31):
That surprised me?

Speaker 27 (01:27:31):
And you don't have purple hair and a nose?

Speaker 13 (01:27:33):
Drink?

Speaker 27 (01:27:33):
Get out of here, your loser, and you're such a
badass being me off stage in thirteen minutes and fifty second,
I guarantee you he sits down the peak.

Speaker 18 (01:27:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
I know what we're all going to do now, aren't we.
First of all, we're going to google him to see
what he looks like. But then we're also going to
be like, what is MS thirteen? I don't know. I
don't think we need to know. Oh, it sounds like something.
It sounds like something that you don't need to know
in your life. Don't worry about it. Okay, So listen,
told you we've been talking about this because it's been
the papers recently. There's a nurse who went to India

(01:28:11):
got some surgery, right said, she's a nurse, she knows
what she's doing. She got surgery in India. She was like,
highly recommend state of the art, amazing better than New
Zealand got another case of this. Women spent two years
in a wheelchair almost and really really high doses of
pain medication. Couldn't stand. She needed to have back surgery
if she wanted to get it done privately in New
Zealand to speed it up. It would cost about eighty

(01:28:31):
five thousand dollars minimum, and in order to do it
that would be massive. They would have to cut her
in half front and back and then work on her
lower spine. So she decided to have a look at
what India was doing. She got robotic surgery in India
for twenty thousand dollars. Now I think that that also
includes the flights and the accommodation and the surgery blah
blah blah. Right, and robotic is obviously far less invasive

(01:28:53):
than having human slice you open. H She's now walking,
she's going to the gym, she's got a new career
as a nail technician, and she's even taken up line dancing.
So I feel like increasingly this is going to be
an option for people. As we just realized it. We're coming,
you know, heading up against it with the New Zealand
public health system and the private one. Also MS thirteen,
hither is a gang?

Speaker 23 (01:29:14):
You know this?

Speaker 21 (01:29:15):
I didn't know that this is the one that everybody's
being deported because they've got the tattoos that think that
you've missed, You've completely missed.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
I didn't know about MS thirteen. No, I didn't know
that was the gang's name. Why are we interested in
the gang's name? But I would answer the question, just
bad guys are bad guys, aren't they. Well, no, you
might say that.

Speaker 8 (01:29:37):
I think Homeland Security think feels a little slightly different
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
That's the whole. So maybe I should actually take my
advice and coole.

Speaker 13 (01:29:46):
You go.

Speaker 22 (01:29:47):
You learn something new.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Every day, don't you.

Speaker 10 (01:29:49):
Well I do.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Anyway, you already knew it. See you tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
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