Full Show Podcast: 15 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted Home the News for its entertainment's opinion and
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
You welcome today the Parliament and quite possibly its most
embarrassing day ever. We've got new insurance laws. You might
like student debt, the iidea. After that, again, we've got
problems with our visa application system. Tim and Katie to
the Week, Richard L. Murray Old's They offered some pretty
top shelf stuff as well. Husky Friday morning, happy to
be here, seven past six. Now, if you watch the
Parliament designed yesterday afternoon, you could feel it building. Of course,

(00:33):
question time focused largely on the Treaty Bill. It was
growing angst. Jerry Brownly, the Speaker, spent far too much
time calling for order. It was low rent, not unheard of,
of course, but full of needless agro Then came the
so called debate. The Treaty Principles Bill had arrived. Eleven speeches,
led off by the architect David Seymour, who spoke as
he has through this whole shambolic process very eloquently. It

(00:53):
was followed by Willie Jackson, who also spoke very passionately
until he called Seymour a liar and got booted out
of the house. Most of the rest of the speeches
were boring and said what you thought they might say,
depending on what side of the house the speaker came from.
National were in the invidious position of defending their position
while not defending the bill. They can claim Christopher Luxen
or blame Christoph luckxin for this, because how he let

(01:14):
it find its way to this place is beyond me.
Either as a coalition deal, let it ride, or kill
it before you sign the deal in the first place.
But this halfway house is the worst of all possible worlds,
and it looked like it as he was on a
plane to South America, and the poor sods he left
behind had to do their best to defend it. The
whole affair, sadly, was not what you might want or

(01:37):
expect from our House of Representatives. Beyond anything else, we
appear to have lost the ability to debate cordially, to agree,
to disagree, to listen to each other and have different views,
to be mature, to be adult, to accept that we
don't all have to be on the same page, and
by the time the Mari Party burst into a harker
and wrecked it all, Jerry rolled his eyes literally and

(01:58):
suspended proceedings for the day. I caught up with the
fallout on sky TV later. God knows what the Australians
make of it.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
All.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
This sort of stuff goes global as well, so more
embarrassment there. We look ridiculous, We look like amateurs. We
look like petty little children bitching at each other. We
look like Kamela Harris supporters on TikTok. We are I think,
I hope better than this. That lot yesterday in the
House of Representatives is not us. It's not representative because

(02:24):
if it is, we're all bugged.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
How much going on with the Trump when the projections
in the House is now sorted, so it is the trifector,
as they say. And then we have the nomination of
mat Gates to let loose as ag wow.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
I wonder. I don't know mister Gates again, he'll go
through the process, but I kind of wonder whether he
could actually get confirmed even by the House Republican Conference,
based upon at least the stories for the last couple of.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Years he's a dem But this bloke, he's on Trump site.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
The President is smart enough and his team is smart
enough to know that mister.

Speaker 7 (02:59):
G will never get confirmed by the Senate whatsoever, because
he's never been a team player and he's never helped
out this conference.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
A couple of issues in the mother country, big bust
in the illegal migrant drama. They named a big player
in the supply of the boats.

Speaker 8 (03:12):
It's exactly what we want to see and it shows
that our approach of working with international partners to smash
the people smaggling gun PAGs is bearing proof.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Then they got winter heating payment issues. They're late and
if they're too late, they could spell trouble.

Speaker 9 (03:30):
They're the poorest, They're losing money, their health and potentially
their lives are at risk. And it does really concern
me because I think this is a big policy error.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And then the embOS, they've got a culture crisis, a
lot of abuse and harassment in the ranks.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's just not right.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
We shouldn't have anyone having to leave their workplace because
they don't feel safe.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
We failed those individuals.

Speaker 10 (03:54):
I'm determined to make all of our workplaces safe.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We've got a bunch of illegal miners trapped. But because
they're illegal and the government are trying to crack down
on illegals, government aren't helping.

Speaker 11 (04:05):
The people there are dehydrated, they are extremely hungry and weakened,
and many of them are actually people who are chronic medicine.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Finally, to the great art heist attached in police have
arrested thirty eight people after uncovering this large scale European
forgery network making and selling fake art. The ring we're
making expensive copies of banks us and pocassos and warholes
and all that stuff. Anyway, investigators found six forgery workshops
in Europe and seeds more than twenty one hundred faked
pieces with a market venue of more than four hundred
million dollars. Those News of the World in ninety A

(04:37):
couple of things for you out of Australia. Thing number
one are the unemployment rate held steady for the third
month in a row. In fact, the economy added sixteen
thousand jobs. That was broadly in line with expectation. Participations
down a bit, but you can see the Australian economy
remains fairly boyant. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
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Speaker 2 (05:00):
Now if the news talks.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
It'd be And the other bit of news out of
Australia yesterday was the Reserve Bank Governor Michelle Bulloch. I
was asked about cryptocurrency. It's not an alternative currency. There
is no role for it in the Australian economy. Look,
it's not a currency, it's not money. It's been used
as some sort of asset class. Don't call it an
alternative currency. Interesting given what's happened in the last couple

(05:21):
of days, of course, fifteen past six roh I j
am I well and with Keller, have very good morning
to you.

Speaker 12 (05:28):
Yeah, very good morning mate.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Roll me through some price in disease or indexes.

Speaker 12 (05:34):
Yeah, I can don't work out whether to say in
disease or indexes, you know. So it's been quite a
big week for local data this week, so we've had
quite a bit of quite a bit of data added
on and that's while we've been seeing around watching how
the global markets have digested this change in the US
administration which comes into play next year. So yesterday we
added a little bit of flavor to the current inflation picture.

(05:57):
These are the monthly selected price Indexes, which is a
monthly read on approximately forty five percent of the CPI
bas because it's notable for being sort of tradeable heavy,
so not a lot of insight into the tricky and
sticky non tradable inflation, but it gives you a good
feel of where quarterly CPI will print when you put
all of the monthly selected price index information together. So

(06:22):
October food prices, they are the biggest part of the
CPI that we get information from. The Selected Price indexes
probably had a slightly larger than expected. Full prices down
zero point nine percent of the month. If we look
at them annually, they're up one point two percent, which
is still quite sort of benign.

Speaker 13 (06:38):
Really think about it.

Speaker 12 (06:40):
Lots of sort of individual movements and there. If you
break it down, fruit and veggies fell four point one percent,
but within that veggies fell quite a lot seven point
two percent, so you can eat healthier cheaper at the moment.
That's a seasonal move. You start getting seasonal veggies coming through. Now,
fruit prices they did rise. If I look at the
last twelve month, fruit and veges down eight point nine percent.

(07:00):
Mike Butter, it's a standout here. Price is quite a
bit higher, about thirty three percent out of third higher
than they were last year. Status zeal do point out
if you look at the last two years, you've seen
this still divergence as well. Beny prices have fallen four
point two percent, but fruit price is up eight Now Rents, Mike,
they're also part of the monthly basket. Now some interesting

(07:21):
developments here. Look, it's a little bit tricky to interpret
because you get you get two measures of what's happening
on rents. He gets what called flow and what's called stock.
Now the flow that's new tendencies. Stock is existing tendencies
where no people moving around. If we look at the
flow measures very subdued rental a rental inflation, it's only

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went up zero point one percent for the month and
only er point seven percent year on year. Now the
stock measures, the monthly measure also quite lows zero point
two percent. That one's still sitting a bit higher, just
over four percent for the year. But if you look
at those short term we could interpret that as a
softening rental market. If I look at the numbers overall,

(08:05):
there's nothing to suggest here that Cordley CPI will be
outside of current expectations. I think the rbn Z for
this scord at two point three percent. If there's a
risk anywhere, slight downside risk to inflation, I.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Would say, Okay, so you mentioned rent, which is houses
on houses. Where are we at with that?

Speaker 14 (08:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (08:22):
So housing data, housing mochey, essay, this is the ARII
and Z data for October. What's going on? I think
overall here it's a bit of a mixed bag. First
of all, I look at the house price index. I
prefer that to the median price. Look at fell at
the headline level, it was up zero point five percent
for the month, But if you seasonally adjust it, that
tips around the other way and it fell zero point

(08:43):
five percent month or month. If we look at the
headline number for the whole year, house price is not
really going anywhere, down one point one percent. There are
regional variations. Again, if we seasonally adjust these, Auckland's down
point nine percent month on month, Wellington's down point seven
percent month a month. We Canterbury it's unchanged. I'm in

(09:04):
Christich at the moment, Mike, and right now feels a
lot more positive here than it does in the South Island.
If we look at the yearly numbers there Aucland's down
three percent, Wellington's down two percent, but christ it's actually
up to two point nine percent. If you want sort
of the bigger picture, the housing price index across the country,
we are fifteen point four percent lower than the peak.

(09:26):
So it looks all these numbers. I think there's some
short term pressure in the housing market because although sales
are a lot better, if I look at the twelve
months versus where we were last year, there's twenty percent
more sales. There's plenty of sales, but lots of listings
coming onto the market, so days to sell higher than
it was last year. But in the short term it's

(09:47):
getting better. So Auckland days to sell fell seven days.

Speaker 15 (09:50):
That's quite a lot.

Speaker 12 (09:51):
But all in all, Mike, you know, sales are below
the historic average for this year, but twenty one percent
higher than they were last year. Look, I think listings
have listings have surge, Mic, But I think on the
one hand, you can say, yes, that's sort of inventory,
you've got a surgshoe. On the other hand, you could
say that homeowners are feeling a little bit more confident
about listing their homes. So Mike, I think there's short

(10:14):
term pressure on prices, but I think prices will lift
next year. I just don't think they'll lift a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Okay numbers please.

Speaker 12 (10:21):
So right now the US market is it's sort of
been a bit of a holding pan. It's weekend off
a little bit. The Dow jones down one hundred and
twenty eight points, and that's about thirty percent forty three thousand,
eight hundred and twenty eight. The number the S and
P five hundred is still just a smidge and under
six thousand, five nine sixty nine. It's down about a
quarter percent on the day so far in the current session,
and the Nasdaq is down fifty eight points nineteen thousand,

(10:44):
one hundred and seventy three. Overnight forts to one hundred
actually gained half percent eight thousand and seventy one, then
ak foul half a percent one hundred and eighty six
three eight five three five to mark there a shame
how composite was quite weak, so one point seventy three
percent three seven nine. The Aussis yesterday gained thirty one
points point three seven percent eight two two three, and

(11:06):
the intects fifty games eighteen points, closing at twelve thousand,
six hundred and ninety two Kimi dollar point five eight
seven one, so is still pretty weak against the US,
but holding up against the other currencies. Mike point nine
oh seven oer against the ossi put five five five eight,
euro point four six two one pound ninety one point
five eight Japanese end gold two thousand, five hundred and

(11:26):
seventy two dollars and Brent crude seventy two dollars and
forty one cent.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
All right, man, have a good weekend. I hope you've
got time to go to the show. Andrew kellaher at
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per user per month increase fifteen percent. All reads well

(11:51):
for me, will take it. Good company zero six twenty
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
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Speaker 3 (12:07):
Mike, I just thought yesterday's Little Sean Parliament demonstrated our
continued slide to a third world nation. I tend to agree, Mike.
I felt the reading of the bill and the date
moved to Luxeon's advantage a date when it was known
he'd be out of the country yesterday's show as a
result of trying to have a foot in both camps.
It's going to hurt national at the next election. It
will be interesting to see that. I'm sort of on
the fence. I think you might be right, but I'm

(12:28):
not completely convinced there's a poll out. I'll give you
that in a moment, Mike. The outcome for me from
the antics of the Maray Party of later as I've
grown to hate the Harker for what it represents. Mike
read the Treaty Principle's bill Shane that David Seymour isn't
getting the respect he deserves. I can't believe I'm going
to say this, but Mallard would never have let an
opposition interrupt and carry on, like I said of aggressive clowns.

(12:49):
I'm not sure that's true, Mike. The brief treaty circus
is still better than three more years of labor than
the Greens in Governments six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Five trending Now Him's Warehouse your home for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Interesting call from Martin Scorsese. He's decided to put together
a new documentary called Beetles sixty four. It's all about
the time Beatlemania arrived in America. Are you doing it?

Speaker 8 (13:13):
I'm all right.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
We were just like, we're in America, America.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
They were the first white group that I'd ever heard
in my life. So yeah, we grew up listening to
black music. We think they're just great.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Especially I think there's something very strange about it at
the same time, something very sick.

Speaker 11 (13:34):
My sister had radio on and I heard the Beatles.

Speaker 16 (13:37):
It's like total darkness, and then I like I was
I was like, oh my god, something for us.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
I think craziness was going on in the world and
in the band, you know, we were kind of normal
and the rest of the world was crazy. What do
you like about the beetle Beetlemania, of course, one of
the great untold stories of modern Oh hold on, that's
not so. It is claimed never before seen footage, as

(14:04):
well as brand new interviews with Paul McCartney. Ringo starts
on Disney Plus November twenty nine. I've got Disney Plus
News for you. They report it and they seem to
be doing very well movies and all that sort of stuff.
But more shortly, Morning, Mike, surely the Speaker has to
come down hard on the Marray Party to make sure
it doesn't happen again. There is probably a privilege's case,
whether it goes anywhere, I mean, hits the Privileges Committee.

(14:26):
And to be frank, do you reckon the Marory Party's
worried about any of that, or do you reckon the
Marory Party. You're interested in headlines and clickbait, and I
think we know the answer to that particular story, the
ird if you've got no institutional knowledge, which unfortunately is
the pervading atmosphere in the media these days. Suddenly we
find out the idea are interested in student debt. There's
a lot of it. Ode remember Stephen Joycey was chasing them,

(14:47):
arresting them at the border. Well we're going to have
another crack at that. They're back more on this after
the News, which is next. Your news talks.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
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Speaker 3 (15:09):
B are the Gates circus for you in a moment.
With Richard Arnold Metal living up to their reputation in Europe,
They've been fined overnight just the one point four to
three billion New Zealand dollars abuse of practices benefiting Facebook
market plays, breaching EU antitrust rules by tying its online
classified ad service Facebook market Places to its personal social
network Facebook, and by imposing unfair trading conditions on other

(15:31):
online classified ads service providers. This thing seems to go
on and on and on and on and on anyway,
Meta of course they say they will appeal at twenty
three minutes away from seven your met gates. Is it
a game? Is it a he's never going to get
the nomination? Or is it as it seems anyway, Richard
Donold shortly now meantime back here, the old overduws bill

(15:52):
problem is back the IOD boosting resources to chase down
unpaid student debt, particularly from those overseas. We've got a
record two point three seven BiH to two point two
of that is with expatsman capturing your policy advisor Jake
Lily with us Jake, warning morning. Can you remember Stephen Joyce?
I thought we had all this sorted out. He was
chasing people and if it was really bad, you got
arrested at the border. What happened to all of that?

Speaker 13 (16:15):
I'm not too sure about that. I was actually in
Australia repaying a student loan then, and I repaid it.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
So did he chase you? Did you have to Did
they have to come calling to get you to repay it? No?

Speaker 13 (16:25):
I you know, I knew it was coming up. I
was a bit it was a struggle at times. I
was struggling to work over there initially, but I was
very grateful for the loan towards my studies, so got
it paid back. It would have been good if they
let us know a bit more proactively about you know,
you are actually deciding whether or not to put fuit
in your mouth or.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
There is the conundrum, where's the personal responsibility?

Speaker 14 (16:49):
Jake?

Speaker 3 (16:49):
If you take on your debt, you've somehow got to
pay it back, and you're ignorant if you don't think
you are, aren't you? Or is that unfair?

Speaker 13 (16:56):
I think you know you take on a debt you've
got to pay it back also happen, and places like
ID they've got a lot of things to make sure
you know if you're in touch, which is really the
tip there. Get in touch. If you can't pay, ask
what relief is available, because they're often is some relief available,
very daunting to do to fess up pay I expected
to pay this back, but not going to plan. And

(17:19):
that's really the tip there. And I would say my
colleagues at money Talks, which is a free help line
there if you're not sure about your options around that
or just need to have a chat about that, it's
free and independent support to know what your options are
with that.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I think their argument, I add these arguments. These are people,
the ones they're cracking down on. These are the people
they have tried to contact, and they're doing through everything
like LinkedIn, Facebook, the whole thing, and you're not replying,
and they're going, hang on here, this is unfair. I mean,
if you're not cooperating, it's on you, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (17:49):
Yeah, I think it is good to reach out. I
can see situations too, people coming through the door here
and instead where they got away on them. You know,
so that first step and it's the other thing that
comes to mind for me is they're engaging debt collectors
to do this in Australia and those deat collectors are
held to a higher standard then our law holds them
to here in terms of how they treat people, so

(18:11):
they will get a bit more respect than if it
was the other around, which is a bit weird in
a way, but we are. We're doing a bit of
work with Minister Bailey on that and looking at next
year whether or not we can get some coherent law
and around what that collectors can and cannot do.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
What would be coherent law? I mean, first of all,
it depends on what sort of angle you want to take.
Don't we want the money paid back? I mean, being
two point three seven billion in a country with no
money anyway is quite useful to have it paid back.
So do you want that problem solved or do you
want the problem that you know we all treat the
people who owe the money a little bit better than
we currently do.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
I think I guess with that two point three billion,
if people don't have the money, it's never going to
get paid back. And a det collector charging feed to
the ID to harass people by maybe you know, calling
them seven times a day despite already having talked to them,
and that person's been very clear, look, I have no money.
What can I do otherwise? Those are sort of the situations,
you know, is it reasonable to call someone seven times

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a day, eight times a day, email them as much,
blow up their phone with text messages when they've already
been in touch with you. They've said they can't pay,
They've asked what relief is available, and they've said, no,
you need to pay the full amount. Now, I wouldn't
have been able to pay forty grand on the spot
when I was twenty two trying to find a job
in Australia. So getting those things clearer is much more efficient.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
And then we've got to go over all debate. Then
we've got the overall debate as to taking on debt.
When you go to university, you think, oh, whatever, it's
in the never and never, and whether or not that
debt and the subsequent qualification is actually worth it.

Speaker 14 (19:37):
Yeah, I can.

Speaker 13 (19:38):
Say for myself, I'm very very grateful for that opportunity
and it has a lot of things and I'm hoping
I'm giving back to the country now back on shore, so.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Look at your year on this program, Jake, I go it, yeah, I.

Speaker 14 (19:53):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 13 (19:54):
For many though, they come out, you know, thinking that
it'll be easy to get into a job after university,
and sometimes it's or not just university or the other
tertiary things too. Things don't always go to plan. And
if you've got this daunting debt hanging over you, the
best thing you can do is reach out to your creditors.
If you don't know how to reach out to your creditors,
are you're feeling not that confident about it because you
know it is hard to repay debt and you don't

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know where the money's coming from for the next meal.
Money talks as your place to start.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
All right, good on you, Jake, go well, appreciate it
very much. Shake Lily Finncap Senior policy advisor. I quite
like him or is that just me? I'm a feeling
bit sort of soft in my old age. On a Friday,
eighteen minutes away from seven SKI taxpayers, you want to poll?
Why not didn't get a lot of coverage this? Are
we over polls?

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Now?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Are we nationals? Up three point nine points, which is
material to thirty eight point eight Labor's up one point
two thirty one and a half. Greens are down a
point to nine, Acted down a point to eight. New
Zealand first to down a point to six. The Murray
Party had down half a point to two and a half.
Nothing changes. Sixty seven seats for the right, fifty six

(20:56):
seats for the left, seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
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Speaker 3 (21:04):
It be Mari Party. Mike's has been they pay for
a month. Well, I know the young lady who let
us getting a paid suspended for the afternoon. I don't
think they care, Mike.

Speaker 14 (21:12):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Parliament yesterday was an embarrassment, said the Reflection on Kiwi
society today. The zero respect. This seems no rule of law.
Certain segments ignore the rules and it seems the louder
you are the better. Where are the role model? It's
not a bad question.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
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Speaker 14 (21:29):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (21:31):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Why? I mean? Gates is of all the mad appointments,
Gates would be you know mega mad, wouldn't he?

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (21:38):
This is the one that's causing the most backlash Gates
for Attorney General, top law enforcement officer, although that is
far from the only ruckers. But Gates has been tapped
to lead the very Justice Department he said should be
abolished and which investigated Gates for the alleged sex trafficking
of a seventeen year old girl that probe ended without charges,
But the House Ethics Panel pressed on with other inquiries

(22:01):
about Gates and alleged sexual misconduct and the list of
drug use and for allegedly accepting improper gifts and so
on and on, said Gates before Trump named him for
the top Justice Department post.

Speaker 17 (22:13):
Maybe I should serve as Attorney General of the United States.
If necessary, I'd fire every little kicker at the J.

Speaker 10 (22:20):
Edgar Hoover Building, Gates has said over time, all kinds
of stuff.

Speaker 17 (22:25):
I don't care if it takes every second of our
time and every ounce of our energy. We either get
this government back on our side, or we defund and
get rid of abolish the FBI, CDC, atf DOJ, every.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Last one of them. If they do not come to heal.

Speaker 10 (22:45):
Pick shut down the entire government. When he heard of
the Gates, Pick Republican Mike Simpson said, are you bleeping me?
Won't use his exact language. Multiple Republicans are scathing about
their colleague. Many a teed off that Gates led the
push to remove Kevin mc kathie is. Republican speaker mccarthee, well,
he's still seething about that, suggesting Gates should be looked away.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
At end of the day, he probably shouldn't be on
the streets.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
Another Republican calls Gates pick insane. Yet another describes his
choice as unbelievable. One defense industry official toe Politico that
he had concerns about to other people. Former National Security
Advisor John Bolton, who in his time was I guess,
slammed as being out on the fringe of his party's
right wings.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
His of Gates, it must be the.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Worst nomination for a cabinet position in American history. I
think this is something that falls well outside the scope
of deference that should be given to a president in
nominating members of his senior team. Gates is not only
totally incompetent for this job, he doesn't have the character.
He is a person of moral turpitude, and notwithstanding how

(23:56):
difficult it may be, politically, this is a nomination the
Republican Party should oppose.

Speaker 10 (24:02):
Gates also has just quit the House of Reps. Because
the ethics panels report on this and his activities was
due for a vote in a couple of days, so
that inquiring now is done since he's no longer in
the Congress, so getting out by the skin of his teeth.
There is a push to make that inquiry public during
his confirmation hearings in the Senate, if those hearings actually happen.
As we've been saying, Trump wants the Senate to adjourn

(24:24):
for ten days at least at the start of next year,
so he Trump can choose Gates and anyone else that
he wants to as a virtual dictator without any Senate
approval on these nominations. The new Senate Leader John Soon
says today, we'll look into those procedures, but yeah, this
is head on fight with the Republican dominated Senate. This
is Republicans also just one control of the House of Reps.

(24:45):
But with nine seats still undersided, they have the slimmest majority. Meantime,
some other picks causing a feurer include Tulsey Gabbart as
head of National intelligence. This is a person who gets
to see all of America's secrets. But Gabbart is a
well known conspiracy theory individual. She went to visit serious
dictator Assad without any US government approval, and also declared

(25:08):
that the US could have stopped the Russian war in
Ukraine if only if only Washington was nice at the
putin about NATO. There have been accusations that she's not
loyal to the United States, So will American allies continue
to share intel with an operations she is heading. There
are a number of pro putin people in the Trump ranks,
including Pete Hegseeth, who has been named as Trump's Pickford

(25:28):
Defense Secretary, running the Pentagon, perhaps the biggest enterprise in
the world. He's been on Fox News weekends as a
second or third stringer, doing all all of the silly
things that morning TV honchos on the weekends do, like
throwing a sharpened axe at a board on Fifth Avenue
one time, missing that board and nearly cutting off the

(25:50):
arm of a drummer who was standing behind the thing.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
They're testing their skills with the acts.

Speaker 18 (25:55):
Who's going to win this battle? I'm putting my money.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Off on Clayton.

Speaker 10 (26:04):
Who oh, sorry for nearly killing the guy on live TV.
Let's put that bloke in charge of the entire US
military and all its weapons when he's never run well anything.
So he's Democrat and Smith who's been on the US
Armed Services Committee.

Speaker 7 (26:18):
President comes to you and says, hey, we've got a
situation in the Middle East, what are our options. If
you've never actually been in a situation room or in
the DoD and analyzed what those options are, you're kind
of making it up off the top of your head.

Speaker 10 (26:31):
Well, Haigsaith was in the Army National Guard and he
knows about soap. Soap, yes, soap. Here is his ad
force soap in the shape of hand grenade.

Speaker 16 (26:40):
She sees one man army, loves the country and makes
damn good soap. I've used them all, and I love
these new brands like gun smoke smells like American firepower,
or Girka refined bourbon and.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Tobacco leaf, or how about.

Speaker 16 (26:53):
Patriot and the Pine tar bar.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
There's more of them too.

Speaker 16 (26:56):
You can get him in a variety pack, each of them.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Shaped grenade self on a roll, now.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
To run the Pentagon. Here gunpowder, fragrance, soap. See you Monday.
Mate Richard Arnold state side Jack Smith, by the way,
special counselor. He's been busy. He's trying to He's been
in court asking the Florida case to be wound up.
That's the bits and pieces of classified documents. He wants
that wound up. And he's also been in DC for

(27:23):
the jan six case. He wants that wound up as well.
And that'll be I presumably before he gets fired. Eight
minutes away from seven called.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
The Mike Costing Breakfast with the range Rover.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
The news dogs head be he getting's off. Mike's students
take on debt and get a kickstart in their career.
So repay the debt. I paid back forty K because
I borrowed that forty K. I tend to agree. But
I do worry these days about a couple of things.
The bidens and the elbows of this world. Who suddenly
forgive debt and you've gone and been diligent and paid
it off, but others who haven't then get it forgiven.
Other thing I worry about is just borrowing for the

(27:56):
sake of borrowing, and you don't know why you're borrowing
in what you're getting for it's a real problem around that.
Five away from seven.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Are the ouse.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
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to the next level like you.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Fall for Disney. Overall revenue this is globally, of course,
up six percent to thirty eight point four billions. The
things are going well. Total segment operating in come up
twenty three percent. The individual bits and pieces Network's TV
streaming revenue increased there fourteen percent to eighteen billion. A
bit over Inside Out two that worked well, Dead pul

(28:31):
and Wolverine that worked well as well. That was the
biggest grossing R rated movie of all time. The entertainment
segment had one point nine billion in profit. Those two
movies contributed a third of that. So you get a
couple of hits, you're off and running. Streaming, big turnaround
twenty twenty two. They were losing on streaming, but now
they're making a profit. The parks revenue grew a one

(28:52):
percent to fourteen billion, so it's all seeming to work well.
Bob Iger, who of course is the genius that ran
the place until he didn't and then he and then
they've got a Doufasen who ruined it, and then they
got Bob back, and Bob turned the whole thing around
and everything seems to be swimming. Nightly TV and zch
you called Bob. See what Bob's doing. They might need
a bit of help in that department. Tom A. Potucker, Yes,

(29:13):
we get him on this morning. He's thinking about charging
you to go wandering up a mountainside or across a
path or something like that in the Department of Conservation.
What I will ask, by the way, do you know that?
And you'll hear this nowhere else. The Department of Conservation
are the worst government department on paying bills. They are
the slowest, slackest government department on paying bills. Why is that?

Speaker 14 (29:32):
So?

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Anyway, we'll ask him about that. And he was of
course in the House yesterday, so we'll get a feel
for that as well. So lockwood Smith speaking of the
House former Speaker, what did he make of yesterday's debacle?
That's after the news.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
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Speaker 3 (29:54):
Seven past seven. So we have an overhaul of Conservation.

Speaker 18 (29:57):
Lord.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
The government's looking to update the current Act, which has
hardly been touched in thirty seven years. Public feedback wanted
on proposals which include charging for access to dockland and
reducing red tape for tourism. The Conservation Minister is Tom
of Potucker, who's with us.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Good morning, jerdam Mike, very well.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Indeed, as regards conservation, what are you looking to do
legislatively here? Is this a tidy up or an overhaul?

Speaker 19 (30:18):
This is really reform. First thing is we want to
change the planning and concession system, just make it easier
for people that do business and run their conservation sort
of aspirations on the estate. The second thing is we're
looking at charging some people to go to some places
around the state so we can have a bit more
pootier to get the jobs done.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I was going to say, how much of it's about
just basic revenue generation you need more dough.

Speaker 19 (30:43):
Yeah, some of it is, but a lot of it,
Like I, it's making it easier and simpler for people
to do things on their state. It's a lot of
tape out there and we need to get rid of
some of them.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Why has it been so long, so many decades before
somebody has looked at this, Well, I.

Speaker 19 (30:57):
Think very few ministers and pre this governments have really
had an appetite to do it. And as you know,
we want to get the country back on track. And
that's why I put my hand up to the promise
and said, okay, let's go.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And what's the timeline on this.

Speaker 19 (31:11):
I look at the feedback by the end of February,
so a couple of months, and then we'll start forming
the policy a bit more firm and introduce central legislation.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Are you expecting angst?

Speaker 19 (31:24):
I think there will be a lot of concerns, especially
when we talk about access charging and asking people to
pay to go to certain places, but international bills, well,
some people believe it's there and hand it right to
go to places for free. I think on the other side,
there's a lot of facilities.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
And exactly, I mean I should be I should.

Speaker 19 (31:43):
Be tracked in state highway.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Mate, Yeah, exactly, But but I mean how can I
how can people count see that if you've dug a
track or put a bridge across the river, someone's got
to pay for that.

Speaker 19 (31:54):
And if you go the city's places, even like Australia
is Rock and Costo Bans and Canada Yellowstone. In America,
you paid to go to those places. So we're talking
about getting out there, getting people's views and then we'll
see how we go.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Okay, a couple of things while I've got to you,
do you realize the Department of Conservation is one of
the slowest payers and if so, why and what are
you doing about it?

Speaker 19 (32:14):
Yes? I do. There are some practices and Department Conservation
need to be improved. The Director General has been given
a message from me. We need to start moving on
us and make sure we're paying the time and manner.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
And there's no excuse for it.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Is there?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Is it lack of resource? Do they not care? I mean,
you know, paying your bills not hard if you want it?

Speaker 14 (32:29):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (32:31):
Absolutely? I think some agencies are better payers than others,
and sermainly I want lot to be up there with
the best.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Right And then yesterday, how do you feel about it?

Speaker 19 (32:41):
I think, Sarah contested there's a lot of tension of
one of my views in response to the questions. But
I think we need to get the country moving back
on track and need to get to equality of opportunity.
That's my quest in the House mic and that's what
I want to do and focus on that rather than
a few other diversions.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Was there any excuse for what unfolded?

Speaker 19 (33:05):
I think the speaker and only that took the speakers responsibility.
He's observed that there was a lot of the sort
of the conduct and behavior in the House es say,
and I expect that he'll be pretty feminous and is
carrying through his observations.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Appreciate time conservation Minister time at Potuck at ten minutes
past seven, speaking which the Thready Principles Bill of Course
made it to Parliament yesterday, debated and voted on. But
between its arrival and the House and the departure to
Select Committee, all hell broke loose Speaker bailed on the day,
suspended the Parliament. The former speaker, so lockwood Smith was watching,
he's with us, good.

Speaker 14 (33:35):
Morning to you wedding mate.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
That as bad as you've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah, that would have to be as bad as I've
ever seen. I guess you know. My ceiling after it
was just one of real sadness, real sadness to see
Parliament treated that way.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Did Jerry Browny do all he could?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
I think you know, you can't blame the speaker. I
think you can blame area at all. I think at
the end he had no choice but to suspend the
house and let things settle down and have the gallery cleared.
I think, you know, some of the rot has started
a way back. The whole standard of the place has
been lowered in recent years, and and I think, you know,

(34:19):
this is just when once you start letting slipped it
just another inch happens, or another centimeter, and so it
goes on.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
And it was.

Speaker 14 (34:29):
What everyone feels.

Speaker 13 (34:30):
About the bill.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
It's a significant issue. And the reason why I turn
it on to watch was because I don't do that
every day. It was to hear what people had to
say about this issue, and rarely was what the bill
actually says even mentioned at all.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I wonder if it's a house of representatives in the
fact that we as a society have slipped as well,
and they merely represent out lack of decorum as well.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I guess you can argue that, Mike, indeed. And but
you know, Parliament is meant to be a place where
those who we choose to represent us from our areas
represent us in the House and are meant to be
the leaders of our communities that we elect to Parliament.
You know, these are meant to be some of our
most respected citizens, because Parliament is the highest court in

(35:17):
the land, and they're meant to be our most respected
citizens in the all days. You know, when I stood
for Parliament, you had to you know, it was a
major process you went through to get selected to stand
for Parliament, let alone get elected to Parliament. And that,
of course it's no secret. I make no secret to

(35:39):
the fact that I'm no fan of MMP, and I
think that's partly the reason why Parliament is in such decline.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I think you're probably right appreciate your insights of Blackwoodsmith,
former Speaker of the House. Of course, their team minutes
past seven Passking no way whill Middle New Zealand might
vote for Labor if they support the Married Party. It's
a very good point. Labour's got a lot to think
about on this. Nothing wrong with being opposed to the
bill as they are, but to be associated with what
happened yesterday and in many respects and Jackson was a
very good example of that, to participate in what happened

(36:07):
yesterday is not conducive to building your support as a
mainstream party. Mike, the problem we have as a nation
is that the MARII narrative uses the word partnership, and
now our Prime Minister's using the same term. They all forget.
Five judges have determined that the treaty was never a partnership.
Watch this term get used more and more if we
don't stop this narrative where heading towards co governance, Mike,
I watched that debate in the House yesterday. National and

(36:29):
ACT were dignified in their speeches to party. Mary could
only yell and rant. I wonder what their reaction would
have been had the Prime Minister and National behave that way.
At Why Honey fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
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Speaker 3 (36:46):
Be fun fact I didn't know. We've got major problems
ordered to general how to look into our visa application process,
specifically around skilled visa applications, and he's come up with
a series of problems. But really it's the number surrounding
that that surprised me. And I'll tell you more about
that shortly, and we should all be deeply, deeply concerned.
Meantime might have a solution to a problem. Seventeen past seven.

(37:08):
We've got to change in the law around insurance this
is the Contracts of Insurance bill. It's past. It means
that we as customers will only need to take quote
reasonable steps to not misrepresent risk. Insurance will be required
to ask more questions. Minter Ellison Rudd Watt's partner Andrew
Horns with us on this. Andrew, good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Oh, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
What's reasonable steps and who decides?

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Good question?

Speaker 13 (37:32):
Excuse me?

Speaker 20 (37:34):
Reasonable steps is really going to depend on the facts
of each case, and there can be a bit of
uncertainty coming in here, whereas the old law was quite
certain relatively because the test was whether whether or not
a reasonable insurer would have expected the information provided to
have been material.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
And so is this only I comes up when it's
in dispute and you have to take it somewhere and
argue your case.

Speaker 20 (37:57):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. But then you only you really
need the law to come in and provide you with
an answer when you're in dispute.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Okay, So does this then mean when I go for insurance,
I'm going to be asked eight hundred and fifty seven
thousand questions now, so they cover themselves off.

Speaker 20 (38:12):
You are going to be asked more questions and the
reason for that is that under the current law, if
you take out a policy of insurance, you have to
tell the insurer everything a reasonable insurer would think was
relevant to the risk. And how are you going to
know what a reasonable insurer thinks was relevant to the risk?
So the changes that now all you need to do
is not give the misceeding answers. But what that means

(38:33):
is that the insurer has to ask you questions about
everything they want to know about.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Right, so question thirty seven Smith Street, the fact it's
on the edge of the cliff? Do I put that
forward or do they go, oh, I see, mister Hosking,
it's on the edge of a cliff.

Speaker 20 (38:47):
Well, right now you need to say to them, it's
on the edge of a cliff. Under the new rules,
they will have to ask you questions like is there
anything about the geography of your house that we ought
to know about or that might increase the rest or
more specifically, what are the topography around your house? They'll
try to find easier ways to do that and make
it clearer. But that's the change.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
What about the once in one hundred year, once in
a thousand year argument. But mister Hoskin, you live by
the beach and the tide came through your lounge and
I go, well, it's never happened before. That must be
a once in a thousand year event, And as it
turns out, it was.

Speaker 20 (39:19):
Yeah, you don't need to predict the future. You just
need to tell them about the circumstances you've got. So
and the thing is you just are going to need
to look at the questions that they ask you and
answer those questions fairly.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Is this good stuff generally?

Speaker 13 (39:34):
Yeah, it's really.

Speaker 20 (39:35):
Good for consumers because it means that consumers don't have
to put themselves in the space of an insurer and
try to work out what an insurer would think is important,
which is what they have to do.

Speaker 11 (39:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Good stuff. Andrew, appreciate your time very much. Andrew Horne,
who's Minter Ellison rudd Watt's partner. So hopefully that clears
things up. It is nineteen minutes past seven. I'm trying
to work out what's the most depressing thing this week?
All the New Zealanders leaving New Zealand still, the protest march,
and the coverage of or Lester Levy, the Health Commissioner

(40:09):
trying to find two billion dollars in savings and wading
into the milo market. More on that shortly seven to twenty.

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Now seven twenty four Time to mark the week, little
piece of using current events that's as exciting as being
Matt Gates, wh Donald calls the trifectorate.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
It is a nice world today, a ou the.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
White House, the other House, the Senate. This is as
comprehensive as it gets the reaction seven because people are nuts.
Elections have always had winners and losers, and there is
always another election. Social media has shown it's just how
often people forget that HOSPO seven. General spending this this
week we find is still anemic, but HOSPO is upper
decent chunks, so we'll take that all day long. Speaking

(41:53):
which Fontierra nine, I mean right now is it as
good as it's ever going to get? Nine to fifty
could be ten bucks, a sale worth billions and an
effect on the economy that is so fantastically welcome. The
all black seven. They look increasingly like the Robertson era
is going to be a very good thing. England and
Ireland with France for good measure, and that's a good
way to hit Christmas. I would have thought a cop

(42:14):
twenty nine sex because it's so funny. No one of
relevance is there. The host president thinks oils from God,
and it looks increasingly like the earnest Sarad has finally
reached its Nadia shell. Seven. Good Court went over the
active as nut as courts can't enforce the way business
is done and hold you responsible for things you don't
even make. Here we save eight another seven billion we

(42:37):
find out on top of the eight billion we find
out so far this year, So saving is no bad thing.
But Black Friday six he doesn't love a bargain because
spinning's flight fun too, isn't it. China six three hundred
and forty million dollars worth of business done on the
latest trade mission, reminding us that being engaged with the
world is actually good for business, tourism for I mean
the great dropped ball of the past few years. Lockdown,

(43:00):
we've been forgotten. Immigration two about the most depressing thing
this week. The numbers leaving New Zealand are heartbreaking. The
numbers arriving are falling. What's it say when we're actually
going backwards, which we will be? Are the apology? Seven?
Because it was heartfelt and came from the right place.
But that was the easy part, of course. The protest one, wow,
more depressing than the immigration numbers. AM afraid to tell you.

(43:22):
The media covering the protest two between singing reporters, I
don't make this up. Singing reporters and reporters making up numbers.
It is not hard to see where the media is
where it is and is held in the sort of
contempt it is. And they brought it on themselves, basically.
And that's the week copies on the website. And if
you take two of these, by the way, twist them
into a band and color them yellow, they make an

(43:44):
awesome bracelet for the love heart bit of the Coldplay
concept pasking like you reckon. John Brian is the best
Auditor General we've ever had. He's reviewing so much it
can barely remember the names of previous ags me neither
interesting question. I wonder if he's reviewing too much and
what it actually means. And I go back to the
ComCom decision, which is not the order to General, of course,

(44:04):
but I go back to the ComCom decision and John Ryan,
by the way, is ag will talk about in the
moment with the business of the visas and on that work.
He's done very well. I go back to the ComCom
yesterday in their court case for one, and I remember
doing some of the advertising around that at the time,
and what I meant by, you know, when we did
the advertising. What they're meaning to say is, as a
result of a connection with starlink, you'll be able to

(44:27):
go to parts of the country you've not been able
to go to previously and be able to text people.
So if you're in the middle of a national park,
you can text, because that's what starlink does. If you're
two hundred and fifty seven thousand feet underground, you won't
be able to text. Now the ComCom decides that that
is misleading. And where in there in that combination of actions,
I ask you does common sense come And so technically,

(44:49):
when you're underground, in the center of the earth, no,
you won't be able to text. But then again, did
you ever think you would And they said you might
not be able to text from under a tree? Maybe
you thought you might not be able to So another word,
are we are they taking the piss the ComCom that
they got too much money and they're legal fund is
my simple question for you, right, the visa thing that's
not good. We need to do better, so hopefully we'll

(45:12):
work through some solutions.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
In a moment, Big News bold opinions the mic hosting
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Speaker 3 (45:25):
In Titan with the protest, I come back to this, Mike.
That ridiculous TV and Z doco trans and Pregnant is
next is exhibit one in the failure of TV and Z.
Let me come back to that, Mike. Good to see
TV and z's Nevak Rogers is in the Herald this
morning in the media column the proposed new head of
TV and Z News taking a week's leave to attend

(45:45):
the Heckoy to show off her impartiality fully exposed for
the biased, woke organization TV and Z is also Let
me come back to that in just a couple of moments.
Twenty three to eight, Tim and Katy after eight being
a prime of laying. So here's your fund step for
this Friday. Last year, there were eight hundred and ninety
two thousand visa applications, right, how many of those were

(46:06):
skilled workers? Turns out, and this is the thing I
didn't know and blew me away. In the early hours
of this morning. It was one point three eight percent.
One point three eight percent twelve thousand. Order to General
highlights this in a report suggesting we need to be
better at skilled visas. No kidding from the Order to
General's off as senior performance auditor Lucy Morland is with us, Lucy,
morning to you morning.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Hello.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Did you know the stuff going in?

Speaker 21 (46:31):
When we go in toward its we always do a
lot of research, so we found it out on the way.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Does it strike you as a person who does research
at one point three eight percent is not a very
high number. It might want to be slightly higher.

Speaker 21 (46:44):
I wouldn't comment on that. I would say that the
one point three eight percent that we found are the
people that have the skills that New Zealand needs in
the medium for longer term, so it's very important that
the systems set up well to attract them.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
So what are you telling as a result of your research.
Are you telling us that if the system was better
set up, that number would go up because more people
would apply, or are you telling us even if we
did have a good system, no one wants to come
to the country with any skills.

Speaker 21 (47:14):
I think what we're saying is that the OECD and
other research organizations have said that immigration systems play a
really important part not only in processing visas, but attracting
the people that a country needs. And we know that
New Zealand's in a very competitive global market for skills.
So the more that the system is set up well

(47:35):
to work smoothly for those applicants, then the more it
can help them make a decision on whether or not
to come here certainly.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
And how do you know whether we're set up well?
Do you make a comparison with other countries and how
do you do that?

Speaker 21 (47:48):
Well, we looked at the New Zealand system and we
come up with criteria when we do our audits, and
we say what would it look like if it was good,
and we'd say it would be smooth and clear and
consistent and fair. We use those factors and we look
at MBI's own promise to its customers, which also talks
about certainty and simplicity, and then we use that as

(48:08):
our guide to see whether we think we can see
that in the system can you And we found that
we could, in some circumstances, in some parts of the
system see that working very well. We could see good
information flowing around the system. It's the quality of the
audit and decision making, for example. But in other places,
like where the technology comes in to help people track

(48:29):
whether visa is at any point in the process, we
thought that that could be very much improved. We know
that people are used to tracking a delivery or a
food delivery on their firing from minute to minute. And
yet when you come to try and see where your
visa's at, you might need to call the call center
instead because you can't see online and those systems aren't
available to help.

Speaker 14 (48:48):
You see that.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
And as calling the call center at nightmare, I wouldn't.

Speaker 21 (48:54):
Call it a nightmare. But we know that when people
call the call center, they the the question they ask
most often is where's my visa? And so clearly they
want to know, they want to know where their visa is,
and they want to see progress because.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
They don't charge a bit of money for this.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Is it?

Speaker 21 (49:16):
Well, everybody pays fees to apply for a visa, certainly,
And the thing is, you know, for a residence visa decision,
it's can I live permanently in New Zealand or not?
So you know that is a really big decision.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
How much of this I don't know how much of
this work in other departments you've done, but how much
of this is just a'll vet's the government and technologically
speaking they're not up to much and never had been.

Speaker 21 (49:38):
I haven't worked across other audits. This is the first
audit I've worked on for the office.

Speaker 14 (49:44):
But I know that.

Speaker 21 (49:46):
Immigration New Zealand are very mindful of the fact that
they need to get their technology improved in order to
help people do this good.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
So so what you've discovered they are cognizant of, and
I'm assuming at the highest level I Minister Stanford will
be aware of all of this and somebody is working
on it.

Speaker 21 (50:04):
I couldn't speak for the minister, but certainly yesterday when
we published our report, Immigration in New Zealand said to
us that they accepted our recommendations and that they were
hoping to do work towards some of them, and that
they were also working on some of them already. So
that's a very positive thing.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
All right, Lucy, nice to talk to you. Go well,
Lucy Moulin, who is with the Auditor General's Office. Speaking
of which, eighteen minutes away from eight Pascar, there was
a presentation, very interesting presentation and this will blow your mind.
New Zealand's healthcare system is out performing Sweden's, Canada's and Germany's.
It was a financial presentation. It was a financial performance

(50:44):
briefing by the acting Chief Financial Officer of Health New Zealand.
Chart based on US research showing New Zealand performed ahead
of those three countries, as well as ahead of Switzerland
and France and the US. Now, first question, when I say, hey, listen,
we've got a better system than Sweden, Canada and Germany,
does that mean anything to you? Because I mean, do

(51:04):
you know how good Sweden or Canada or Germany is?

Speaker 16 (51:07):
No?

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You don't, nor do I. So what does it actually mean?
It means, as far as I can work out, nothing,
because of course, if I asked you how the health
system is performing, you would say pretty much what everyone
else says, which it's crap broadly, not all the time,
but a lot. New Zealand healthcare spending as a percentage
of GDP was middle of the pack, slightly ahead of
the UK, slightly ahead of Canada, slightly ahead of Sweden,

(51:27):
but slightly behind frant Switzerland and Germany. Also shows that
public health spending more than doubling from twenty twelve when
it used to be thirteen billion. We're heading towards thirty.
The biggest jump of the last two years was personnel costs.
It's risen from ten to twelve billion. So what that
indicates to me is one of a couple of things.
Because we are not as good as the UK. And

(51:48):
yet you ask people in the UK, what do you
reckon of the NHS, they'd tell you the same, almost universally,
they'd say it's rubbish, it's third world, it's a disaster.
Yet according and this is the lies of numbers and
stats and figures, you can manipulate them to say anything
you want. According to this, we're actually doing pretty good.
So do you believe it or not?

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Seventeen to two good on the mike asking Breakfast Full
Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks, it'd be.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
It is fourteen minutes away from mate, just mildly choking
on an olive mike that ridiculous TV and said doco
trans and Pregnant is exhibit number one of the failure
of TV and said, well, you're wrong on that, because
I thought that's a bold call on their part to
run a documentary series I'm assuming funded by the taxpayer,
and I thought, primetime television, how's that going to go down?

(52:36):
And we went and got some numbers and it came in.
It was a four forty I think it was four forty.
Four hundred and forty thousand people watched it on streaming
plus terrestrial. And I can tell you from experience, that's
a good number. If you put on a documentary or
you put on anything at about seven thirty at night
these days, that's a you'd be happy with that. So

(52:58):
to say that that's wrong, people watched it, and that's
what a television channel is there to do, put programs
on that people watch. As regards Nevack Rogers, who I
do not know, but it has suggested, and this is
in the media column of the Herald this morning, that
Newack Rodgers is going to end up TV ands that
are looking to merge the content content being programs like

(53:21):
those when I just mentioned and use, which is a
separate division together. Now, from a broadcaster's point of view,
that's a critical error and they'll live to regret that.
But be that as it may. Nevack Rogers that has
reported this morning took leave personally and this is in
her defense to go on the hecoy. Now the question
is can you do anything on personal leave or are

(53:44):
there certain people in certain places and certain jobs, with
certain reputations, in certain profiles, particularly at politically difficult times
and companies run by the government, where you probably can't
do anything you wanted on holiday. And could we suggest
that a person who might well be in charge of
programming for TV and Z there the government owned television operator,

(54:05):
having been on a protest march at a time of
high political angst, is probably not the wisest thing they
could have done. Or would they counter argue and go
this is so personally important to me toughly like or
or what.

Speaker 15 (54:20):
If she had a kid at one of the schools
that was going and they needed some parent helpers?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Good question. Next question I have for you, and this
I backed off my whole cyber truck thing. I wanted
a cyber truck and no longer want a cyber truck.
Yesterday they announced their sixth recall this year, not sixth
recall in the history of the Model sixth recall this
year it's virtually won every two months. Is that a

(54:44):
lot it's a hell of a lot. It would be
a record breaking lot. They can't Elon Musk needs to
get out of mari Lago and the other story I
read yesterday, the Trump team are getting thoroughly sick and
tired of them. He's moved into mary Lago. He's a
pain in the ass and they cannot wait to see
the back of him. Allegedly, he needs to get back
to the factory and build proper cars, because when you're

(55:07):
recalling your car for the sixth time this year, you're
not building cars.

Speaker 15 (55:13):
Anything seriously wrong with them.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, they put it down to talk. It's the inverter.
Listen to the way they describe it. The inverter stops
producing talk. The driver loses the ability to apply talk
to the vehicle using the accelerator pedal, resulting in a
loss of propulsion. So, in other words, the car doesn't go.

Speaker 15 (55:31):
You put your foot down and you roll backwards down
the hill.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Nothing happens. Tend away with it's unbelievable. Gets somebody to change.

Speaker 15 (55:45):
The radio show to do stop fiddling with the printer.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
And here's the thing I've fixed it. Got an idiot
in here to do it couldn't do it properly?

Speaker 14 (55:52):
Now?

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Fixed it? Receiving data?

Speaker 14 (55:54):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Listen, do I have to do everything around here? Where
am I seven away from?

Speaker 14 (56:02):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Let's talk rugby. All Blacks take on France. This is
turning out to be a top shelf sort of tour.
Elliot Smith's with us. Elliott, how are you, Mike?

Speaker 22 (56:11):
I'm good? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Who do you get to change the printer in the
sports department?

Speaker 22 (56:16):
That usually falls upon me to do that. I back
myself in those situations, though, you do like yourself?

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Yeah, it's good. How are you enjoying France?

Speaker 22 (56:25):
Wonderful country, wonderful city. Goods you back here a year
on from the World Cup. Plenty of spectators expected for
this one come the weekend. A lot of intrigue as
to how the All Blacks will go, and I think
with Antoine DuPont, the French captain back in the mix,
that there's storylines are plenty for this one.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Okay, the France Israel football game, there's a big security operation.
Are you feeling that is an angsty vibe around the
place or not? Really?

Speaker 14 (56:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (56:51):
Yeah, there is about four thousand police officers deployed around
the ground. They've only sold a third of the seconds.
No one wants to go to this game this evening
and a couple of hours time, like everyone's staying away.
It's a real sense of you know that you put
Israel at this point in time in the world in
a football scenario, given what happened last week as well
with their team there as well. No one wants to

(57:12):
go here in Paris tonight. I was speaking a couple
of locals. Everyone's going to watch it on TV, but
no one's brave enough really to go to the ground
and watch it in person, although I see mccron and
others are going to go.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Is the rugby a sellout?

Speaker 22 (57:25):
It is close to us all that, I believe, Yeah, absolutely,
And I think you put the All Blacks in the
form there in du palm, all the ingredients there. So
they're not going out for the football team tonight, but
they're willing to go out in a couple of night's
time and see the rugby team. I guess New Zealand
probably on the banner a little leads threatening them going
to see Israel at the moment, given world of fears.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Here's the thing. I see us beating France, so it's
an excellent tour. But I see us fragile mentally for
Italy because we want to go home and do Christmas
shopping and Italy are useless. Is that fair or not? Really?

Speaker 22 (57:56):
Well, I suppose they could do some Christmas shopping in
Italy and combine the two before they head home. Mike,
I think it's a real it's a real problem. You know,
there's got to be These are three big tests that
they're coming off here England, Ireland and then France this week.
They get through this week, pressure valve releases a little,
you look forward to that beach at home, etc. As
you say, But I think there's a bit of a

(58:16):
steely resolve in this team now that hey, they've got
a couple of wins behind them. Now they get France
on the weekend, they picked them off if they can
do so. I don't think they'd want to leave the
tour with the old rocks and the beach towels over summer.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
No, I would agree with that. How's the weather for
the game.

Speaker 22 (58:31):
It's a bit cold, getting down to nine degrees for kickoff,
four degrees overnight as well, so it's going to be
the celligest match for the all Blacks so far on
the tour, but conditions expected to be relatively still. No
real rain around this week so far in Paris, the
condition should be good.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
You're managing to do your washing, okay, and stuff the
hotel bills. Aren't you anything I can help with?

Speaker 6 (58:51):
No?

Speaker 22 (58:51):
No, yeah, if you know a good laundrette, just send
them my way. I'm trying to make way way through
those Mitchell and three star restaurants you sent through as well,
but we're ticking them off.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
Got on your mate, go well. Elliott Smith, who's a
he'll be calling the game of course here on News
Talks it be and Radio Sport and all the other
outlets that we have the iHeart what he by called
these days? What are they called gold sports? Gold Sport.
It'll be nice to hear Mike actually give us one
of those things, Glenn pasking nice one. It'll be nice

(59:22):
to hear doctor Peter Sharples beyond to party merry. Can
we get him on? That's not a bad it's not
a bad idea. And Sam, not only didn't you change
the printer properly, you didn't think of Peter Sharples. Why
are the listener's coming up with the ideas, very good idea.
Let's see, let's see where he's at us in a
couple of moments. Then Tim and Katie did the weak
horse here at News Talks.

Speaker 14 (59:39):
He'd be.

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Speaker 4 (59:55):
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Speaker 14 (01:00:02):
Is that the one means?

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Or come on, just for real? These are a whole
series of remastered songs. We've got a remaster, we've got
an alternative we've got an acoustic alternative pop or is
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Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Talking his from that long ago? Because I said you
could do these spot these people a mile away. I
don't know you can spot these people a mile away
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Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
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Tim and Katy, good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 18 (01:01:18):
I was just saying to Sam, he'd probably rather be
on jury duty at this rate, with all the abuse
he's getting from you this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Exactly exactly, he would be treated respectfully, he would be
listened to, he would have some power.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
But he's just he's a prisoner, isn't he, Katie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
He's a prisoner of the Hosking regime.

Speaker 14 (01:01:35):
He is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Do you know what the Hosking region. It's very good
point you make him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Do you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
The Hosking regime is? Continual continual improvement. And I'm not
here for slackers. Relentless, relentless, continual improvement. And it's a
simple it's a simple printer. It's a very very base printer.
Because the budgets here at News Talk z ZBI represent these,
so they make it simple to change the printer. It's

(01:02:00):
not hard. And I just it's all I had to
do this morning was double handle it.

Speaker 13 (01:02:04):
And I.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
And it's always the person who comes in after the
person who fiddled with it first, that exactly seems to
have fixed it.

Speaker 18 (01:02:12):
When the person who fiddled with at first aka.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Actually actually did affect it.

Speaker 12 (01:02:17):
Actually, And look, look, i'd love to keep talking about
this printer, but I've got President Trump on the other line,
so I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
To have to go to Is it like opening the jar,
So you try and open the jar and you can't,
and you hand it to the person then goes easy.
So that's what you're arguing. I'm the jar opener in
our house.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I opened the jars because of a bulging biceps.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Nothing wrong with that. By the way, the call for
Trump Sam won that, so he's had a good week.
He was right on the money in terms of how
late the call was.

Speaker 18 (01:02:44):
Did you want any money or food or something.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
No, you're not allowed money and food on competitions on
this radio station. So members of the staff. It's the
classic old rule. It's members of the staff. Again, it's
not the way.

Speaker 18 (01:02:57):
We got nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
He just got kudos exactly. So he was a winner there.
But as for have you ever been on jury duty?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I got called up for it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
I got called up for it once and then I
just yeah, I was too I was too busy at work,
like like like you like work letter, what's that did
you write an arm to work letter. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
and they kept me. That went away and.

Speaker 15 (01:03:22):
They went away.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
I sort of.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I actually I have thought at times, oh, I wouldn't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
I wouldn't mind trying it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
But then when I heard about Sam, who's got like
you say, three weeks to spare? Who's got who's got
time to sit in a room with eleven other people?
What do you reckon the ratio of gornmlous idiots is
twelve randomly selected people. I reckon it's eighty two percent.

Speaker 9 (01:03:42):
It's it's right up there, cormous idiots, people who have
no clue. There's certainly not your peers, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I stood in Bob Jones's office once and he was smoked.
He was smoking his pipe in his office, steering out
of the Wellington Harbor, and he said, I was called
up for jury duty the other day. And I said,
how'd that go for you? He goes, I've never seen
the like. Do you realize, Mike Puff Puff Puff? There

(01:04:14):
were people in that room wearing tracksuit pants. What has
the world come to?

Speaker 18 (01:04:23):
Why if you're settling in for three weeks, you should
be in your trackees.

Speaker 15 (01:04:27):
You'd be in your trackies, and if you were doing it,
if you were called up.

Speaker 12 (01:04:30):
And by the way, they would call your name, I think,
and a lawyer would immediately go challenge you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Just you wouldn't even get out of your seat exactly,
but you'd be there and one of one of your
T shirts. I would rather, I would rather I would run.
Part of my problem with jury duty is you're not
being judged by your peers. Are you the average person
in court being judged by anyone who's got a job
and is professional and is generally a half decent human being.

(01:04:58):
Is not the peer of the person in court in general,
are they?

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
No, You're lying one hundred percent on your lawyer, as
proven in the pulking Horn case.

Speaker 18 (01:05:05):
You're relying on your lawyer, not your jury.

Speaker 14 (01:05:08):
Although for more.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Judge a good lawyer, I argue for more judge trials
because they're generally sort of cognizant, know what they're doing.
They're voluntarily there anyway, or and or and I'm slightly
weak on this, but and or a group of people
who'd be keen. My fear for the group of people
who be keen is you have trainspose you get, you get,
you get self selecting busy bodies, and you're sort of

(01:05:31):
creating I think a like a like a class of
professional jurors.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
That's the last thing you want.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
And then they have Well, I'll tell you what. I
was on three trials last year and I was right
on every single one of them. What about you? Are
you trial four? Are you get a lot of that?
Wouldn't you? Oh, you'll find this judge likes to say X,
Y and Z.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
I would dismiss it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Why are we doing this voice?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
I don't know because it sounded good when we started
a question for you, Katie going into the break, When
did the phrase clapse back become a thing? More shortly?
Thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Talksippy News Talks sixteen past eight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
The answer, Kadie, when did it becomes.

Speaker 18 (01:06:20):
What it means?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Or I just saw you had another headline this morning,
so and so claps back? When did that become a.

Speaker 18 (01:06:25):
Saying, well, claps you know what a clapback is?

Speaker 14 (01:06:28):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
I know what it is, but I just want it
becomes its seemingly a trendy thing that everyone needs to
say now.

Speaker 18 (01:06:35):
I mean, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's new that
the media are using it. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
So it's been around for ages?

Speaker 14 (01:06:42):
Has it?

Speaker 16 (01:06:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
It has I've heard.

Speaker 15 (01:06:45):
Yeah, it's like ten years, right, kay, Katie?

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
Yeah, I mean we've grown up with you know, We've
raised five children who've all clapped back many times.

Speaker 18 (01:06:52):
It's sas, it's giving you a serve.

Speaker 9 (01:06:54):
It's a sarcastic quip or remark or you know, responding
to criticism quickly.

Speaker 18 (01:06:58):
We we've you know, how how is that not familiar
to you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:01):
Well? Because I'm probably a dinosaur. So two morals questions
for you? Are you ready the woman from TV and
Z whose name I've momentarily forgotten, takes who allegedly is
going to be in charge of everything at TB and
Z takes personal leave to go on the protest much

(01:07:23):
given who she is and who she works for, is
that wise and acceptable?

Speaker 11 (01:07:26):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:07:26):
Or no?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Katie?

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
I've thought about this a lot because having worked with
the execs at both TV and Z and ENZ ME,
I know for certain that they think very clearly. The
execsit enzed me about what they do and how they
participate in life outside of business hours, and that is
something you've got to think about.

Speaker 18 (01:07:42):
On the one hand, she's entitled to take personal leave
and do whatever she wants.

Speaker 9 (01:07:45):
On the other hand, if you're in charge of something
that affects a wide group of people, which is seen
to be got to be seen to be representing everybody,
then the minute you stick your colors to one mass,
then you're you've made it very clear you're not representing everybody,
and there they'll there'll be a clapback or a knock
on effect for your the people you represent, which is

(01:08:06):
your audience, which is your customers, which is your advertisers.

Speaker 18 (01:08:08):
So to me, that's an own goal and she shouldn't
have done it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Tim totally agree that TV and Z has to demonstrate impartiality.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
Well, said Katie.

Speaker 3 (01:08:18):
See because Jason was giving me the example of the
strip club, and he went to the legal team to ask,
is it okay if I go to the strip club?

Speaker 9 (01:08:27):
You are so full of cracks. One Jason would never
ask that, Two that never happened, and three Jason is
the person I was thinking about.

Speaker 15 (01:08:34):
He holds you're going to need some corroborating evidence here, Glenn,
you were there, Yeah, that this did.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
This conversation did in the news at eight o'clock.

Speaker 15 (01:08:43):
I wilso add that that, according to Miriam Webster, clapback
was first use. The first known use of it was
nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
WHOA, that's so embarrassed.

Speaker 15 (01:08:55):
I feel like kind of a clapback.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
To be fair to Jason, that's a mic drop. To
be fair to Jason, he didn't go, and he finds
it morally repugnant in gooing because he represents people and
therefore he was saying it's not acceptable behavior. But the
legal team said, go for you, go for gold.

Speaker 15 (01:09:13):
Also, to be fair to Jason, he wasn't just asking
them if he could go to a strip club. He
was saying, say, for example, I was invited to a
stagdo right, right? He wasn't just going to pop down
at lunchtime.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, I know it's bright. I don't think you'd get
in anywhere near Killy within a strip club.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
No, that's not true.

Speaker 9 (01:09:34):
I think if you're an opinion based service, or if
she was an editorial writer or her job.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Well, she's going to be in charge of the news allegedly.

Speaker 18 (01:09:41):
Exactly, which is supposed to be impartial. Therefore, you shouldn't
you represent impartiality?

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Yeah you have to Yeah, okay, next moral question. And
this was a revelation to me. You know how John
Krasinski was named the sexiest man in the world this
week by People magazine. What I didn't realize is he
wasn't their first choice, and they go to other people
and the other people turned them down. What exactly?

Speaker 15 (01:10:06):
Really?

Speaker 14 (01:10:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:10:07):
Do you have to get permission?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
See?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I knew this was news? I knew it. Wow, so
you got the so ho won who's the real sexiest
man in the pink pin up? So you go to
the people, you get thereby and so therefore you get
the photo shooting a few comments. So they went first
to Glenn Powell.

Speaker 18 (01:10:24):
Oh yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
And then when Glenn turned them down, they went to
Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 18 (01:10:30):
Why do you turn them down?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
I'm so because the People magazine and being called the
sexiest man in the World's why I tune them down?

Speaker 9 (01:10:38):
The old guy because John Kristinsky would be a bit older, wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
He, Johnski? And that's the problem. Everybody sexy, He's not
the sexiest man, how does that work? And then people
go people magazine was available.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
It's just everything is not as it seems, is my point.
Until you know you dig a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
That's that's why we're here. This is what we do
every Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
We sort it out fair enough. Have you seen the
New Zealand video by the way, just quickly?

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:11:08):
Is it good?

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Okay?

Speaker 18 (01:11:12):
How would we have seen it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
How would we have seen it?

Speaker 15 (01:11:14):
I feel like Tim gave you the perfect opportunity to
wrap up that segment. It would have been so beautifully
tied up with a bow, and then you just set
the pushing on a little bit. You just didn't go
on the other line.

Speaker 18 (01:11:25):
I've got to go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
In answer to your question, Tim, they're get ready to
take off video. In answer to your question, Katie, no,
And that is the end of the segment eight twenty.

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the point track pants instant dismissal cousin Mike got called
for jury service. Sydney told it would be a five
month case. Five months luckily they were out of the country.
Couple of good stories floating around in Australia at the moment.
Seems weird, but they appear to have a deal. Not
public yet, but the behind the scenes buzz is that
the Coalition and the Labor Government have struck a deal

(01:13:08):
to overhaul the electoral system in terms of money and
a couple of problems they've got there. One's Clide Palmer
and rich blokes who spend Lord knows how much money,
but if you got it, you can spend it. He
apparently spent one hundred million dollars on the last election.
But because he's got it and he can spend it,
so they want to do something about that. The other
problem they had was the Climate two hundred vehicle, which

(01:13:30):
was a funding vehicle that the Teal, the so called
Teals the Independence which aren't independent at all, of course,
because they're founded by Climate two hundred, but they use
so they want to sort of try and tidy that up,
which is interesting Speaking of money, the Vach and elon
their efficiency drive, they found three hundred and fifty thousand
dollars to develop AI smart toilets. They found six hundred

(01:13:50):
and sixty thousand dollars to study the impact that COVID
had on Russian women. They found seven hundred and fifty
thousand dollars for the New York Metropolitan Opera fire alarm.
They foundo hundred found a study on how to talk
to ignorant people about climate change. They found two million
dollars for the construction of a kelp and shellfist nurturery
in Maine. And they found one hundred thousand dollars to
see of Japanese quail are more sexually promiscuous if you

(01:14:13):
give them cocaine. They found two hundred thousand dollars to
make monkeys transgender, to study HIV and trans women. And
they found a million dollars to study of selfies make
you happy. So they're finding good money and they've only
just begun. News is next. Your News Talks d.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Be setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way,
News togsad B Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Can the Chiefs beat the Bills in New York this
Monday and remain unbeaten? Yes they can, because the Chiefs
are a better side than the Bills are. At the moment,
the Bills were okay, but the Chiefs are brilliant. And
a Jets team winning in New York. Who are the
Jets playing? I can't remember who they're playing, but I
had them as a good, strong possibility. A lot of

(01:15:09):
good stuff going on in the NFL at the moment.
There's a couple of guys. Caleb Williams was one of
the top drafts and he was stuck in his quarterback
of the Chicago Bears. And one of the great debates
around NFL is do you take kids from college and
stick them into the highest level of elite sports straight away?
And can they handle it? And there's plenty of evidence
that suggests, broadly speaking, no, they can't. But Caleb Williams

(01:15:31):
started really well and then he's fallen apart, and so
the debate now is his career shot? Do they bench him?

Speaker 14 (01:15:38):
What do they do?

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
And this is just a young kid who's been in
the game for about three and a half minutes then
there's another guy called Richardson. I think knows Richard Jaden Daniels.
But the other one is Richardson who's been for the
Colts and he's been benched. He was another guy young
guys started, played very poorly. They benched him, and then
they took in their fill in quarterback, guy called flako've
been around for one hundred years. He was supposed to

(01:15:59):
be there because he could win, except he lost three
in a row, so they benched him and they brought
Richardson back. So as riches and good or as riches
and not good. You see, you're messing with young minds.
It's a complex business. Twenty two minutes away.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
From nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Jayden Daniels is a good example. He's for the Commanders
and he's young and New Aiders fantastic. He's flying. So
that's probably more in fl news than you were ever wanting.
But just I feel like indulging myself on a Friday. Murray,
how are you? Oh yeah, he's on the phone as well,
because the things were murray, how are you?

Speaker 14 (01:16:35):
Yeah? Good morning, Mike. I'm an Atlanta Falcons fan myself
and even won anything for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Kirk Kirk cousins, if you're following them the season, they're
doing well because.

Speaker 14 (01:16:44):
Kirk don Okay, I'm much more on All Black fan though, Buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Much more.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
And I think we'll win against France, and I think
there'll be three in a row, and of course obviously
will beat Italy and that's a good northern tourism.

Speaker 14 (01:16:54):
Well, you think about the Wallabies, and I mean that
thrilling went over England and made sure that leaked a
lot of points. And we'll both sides of it for
that matter. But I'll tell you what, there's a spring
in the Wallaby step. But over here Wallaby fans are
emerging from under the doner saying, bloody hell, did we
just win something good? Who's this Joe Schmidt that he's
the Messiah? A minute ago they're saying, get rid of

(01:17:14):
that bloody key wee case man one on Asie. Now
they're saying, oh, jokey, buy you a new car, what
about a new home. But here's the thing. The Australians
have only won in the last decade. This was a
good stat in the paper. I saw They've only won
two or more consecutive tests nine times.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (01:17:30):
So in the last decade they've lost the following test
nineteen times. They've lost the following test after a single win.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I know it's Wales, but oh the beat Wales. Everyone
g beats Whales. Murray.

Speaker 14 (01:17:44):
Yeah, I think at christ His Boys High School first
at fifteen good beat Whales.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
At the moment, I think I think they'll be Okay,
you had a bit of a cold.

Speaker 11 (01:17:52):
I have.

Speaker 14 (01:17:52):
I've got a bit of bronchitis this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Okay, do you want to call the siegment twin end?
Are you okay? Or would you?

Speaker 14 (01:17:59):
Percent? Fine? Mate? One hundercent? Fine? Love talking to you
every week.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
Well that's good. It's just you. Notice how caring I
am these days? So Rudd. I read the editorial this
morning on the Sydney Morning Here. Oh god, they are
left leaning paper at times, aren't they. They're busy games
may not press. So you can't hide from what Rudd
said because the Sydney Morning Herald are trying to defend him.
You can't hide from that. And it's going to cause
trouble with Trump, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:18:21):
Well yeah it could. I supposed of any how snarky
he wants to be. I mean, you know, his vice
president had called himy a lot worse than he heeds
alongside Trump right now, So I mean, look, the fact
of the matter is over here both sides of politics.
I think Kevin Rudd's doing a hell of a good job.
He's a China specialist, speaks the language, He's just done

(01:18:42):
a biography of the Chinese president. She and he's super
super well regarded in Washington by both sides of politics.
So Donald Trump wants to come along and say, okay,
out to go. We're not you know, there's no way
known we're going to have you as the Australian ambassador.
Is you're going to do that? We're not sure. But
this is really it's not even a beat out. This
is a confected story from Sky News. They've got these

(01:19:05):
old outtakes of Kevin rudbying cranky, and we know he
can be super cranky and saying, you know, all these
bad things about Donald Trump. He's got the first one
to say bad stuff about Trump, is he? So is
he going to get the flick?

Speaker 16 (01:19:17):
Will?

Speaker 14 (01:19:17):
Apparently not. He's doing a hell of a good job
from all accounts. And there's no way Albanize's going to
remove them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
No, they should remove Elbanisi though, because he isn't doing
a good job in the polls show.

Speaker 14 (01:19:28):
He's oh no kidding, I mean this week news poll
just been poll after poll, very very bad news and
deep for labor. This look at my notes, see you
there you go. The Coalition now regarded as the best
party to manage cost of living. The poll found three
out of four respondents citing cost of living as the
number one issue heading into the election next year. Now,

(01:19:48):
a minute ago, labor was ahead of the Coalition forty
three to twenty two percent. That was two years ago.
So now the Coalition on many metrics has passed. Labor
inflation trending down, but more people working. But consumers just
aren't feeling any love that you know, when they go
to the petrol pump that's costing eighty bucks to fill
the car. It was only costing sixty bucks a minute ago.

(01:20:10):
The same with the grocery card.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
Costs you it cost you eighty. But yesterday I was
at the petrol station, Murray, it cost me one hundred
and sixty seven.

Speaker 14 (01:20:20):
Yeah, but that Bentley really sucks that she.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Does big tanks. I'll give you that parts.

Speaker 14 (01:20:27):
Got and like, I'm glad of not playing that exit me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
But the point is, and I think I might be
proved to be ultimately right on this Murray, is that
Dunton might well be electable.

Speaker 14 (01:20:39):
Oh sure, after the way that he's taking skin off
labor and he's not doing anything particularly smart. He's simply
opposing what Tony Abbat did a decade ago, and he
was extremely effective. He won government on the fact he
was just saying no all the time.

Speaker 17 (01:20:55):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:20:55):
But he stopped the boats as you know, all that stuff.
And D's a straight out of They Have It playbook.
The other big thing, Mike that's going to feed into
Dutton and put wind in his sales is the It's
what we saw in the United States election. I mean
immigration here is another big issue the people here. It's
not going to take the opposition long to get a
big stick and start something later over the head without

(01:21:17):
about immigration.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Yeah, I mean, hold on on housing, here's your problem.
Part of that immigration boom, I mean, apart from the
fact you're an attractive place to live obviously, but part
of that immigration boom, and a big chunk of it
is new Zealanders and with our relationship, you can't stop
us coming.

Speaker 14 (01:21:35):
That's true, But how do I guess what happens? You know,
Kiwis come over here and they start, you know, they
take jobs, and next all of a sudden they keeping
ten or a dozen Australians out of work because they
work their bloody hearty good skills you know, language skills
as well, and they come and they and they work
jolly hard. I'm not saying that other migrants don't. But
what you've got to hundreds of thousands of students here

(01:21:58):
manipulating visas, according to critics, to stay on beyond their degrees.
They're not going home. They're getting family to come here
as well. People are getting fed up with congestion on
the roads. You can't get services, you know, government services
and along lines all over the place. And what Peter
Dutton is already trying out things like, you know, are
you're better off now than you were?

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Interesting?

Speaker 14 (01:22:22):
And that's got a lot of potency.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
I reckon. I'm not surprised having said that, speaking of
this is tied to the Americans. This deal allegedly between
Labor and the Coalition about spending what you can in
Clive Palmer and Climate two hundred and all that is
that real? And what are they going to do?

Speaker 14 (01:22:37):
Well? Is it really? Look I don't know is it
really or not? Because both sides it's like, I mean,
they're junkies, both sides, but both sides of politics are
addicted to donations. In the beginning of town. On Labor side,
the Union rid tips in millions and millions of dollars
every year. On the other side, you know, it's the

(01:22:58):
likes of Gina Reinhart and other big don't There is
big wealth individuals who are tipping money into the coalition
war chest. Are they going to stop that? I can't
see it happening. I mean, there's too much at stake.
You need those ads and the lead up to an election,
Who's going to pay for them? I mean, you know,
both sides have got a shrinking supporter base. Once upon
a time people would sign up and would be Labor

(01:23:19):
Party members. They manned the boobs at elections. The same
with the Liberal Party. Not too many of them left anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
Mike, It's the truth, all right, mate, Go on seeing next.
Frida Murray olds out of Australia eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
The High asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
At be having Bag these Sydney Morning Herald of Maama
Guy do actually like a very big, good bit of
writing yesterday The people who have owned and run fashion
Week in Australia. Of course, fashion Week in this country
is sort of fell by the wayside, and it was
all very sad if you go back long enough. It
was kind of a thing for a while there, and
all the loviies were involved, and people came down to
the country and it was a big deal and buyers

(01:23:56):
came and there was plenty of coverage and you'd have
build up and it's etcetera. And the same thing sadly
has happened in Australia because I amg they've abandoned responsibility
and they've held it since two thousand and five and
the demise was beautifully written about. Have you landed in
the front row in the on trend golden years at
Fox Studios and then Circular Key you could have rubbed

(01:24:19):
shoulders with Italian vogues and a Piagi or supermodel Jerry Hall.
This year at Carriagericks and Redfern. You were lucky to
be seated with a married at first site survivor nicely
noticing you veggies is so much cheaper. I mean, if
I asked you as the price of everything coming down,
you'd go no, and you'd be wrong. Monthly food prices
fell Overall, monthly food prices fell again in October zero

(01:24:40):
point nine percent. Vegetables down seven point two percent. Over
the last two years, vegetables have gone down fourteen point
two percent. If you had the latest sparagus, absolutely superb
at the moment asparagus, and at good prices too. Fruit
prices are up, but they're full of sugar anyway, so
go for the vegetables and the leafy greens. Overall, fruit
and vegies are down, though if you combine them together,
they're down four percent in October. And the only thing,

(01:25:05):
as far as I can work out two questions for you,
the only thing I can work out that's really still
going up in price are restaurant meals, ready to eat meals.
So if you can't be bothered cooking, that's on you,
and you go out and grab something conveniently, and that's
why you're paying for nians and they're still going up.
So restaurant up three point four and ready to eat
two point five. And that's I suspect something to do
with the labor costs. So if you don't have to

(01:25:26):
do that and the other prices. Of course everyone owns
about butter. Now, butter's through the roof. Obviously, butter is
one of the most expensive things you can buy. You
buy a block of gold or a block of butter.
They're basically the same thing these days. But you need butter.
I mean, honestly, I like butter. I mean, butter's good.
I mean so, I'm not asking you whether you like butter.
I'm not asking you whether you would miss butter. I'm
not asking you whether a piece of sod oata nicer butter.

(01:25:48):
None of that, saying do you need it? And the
answer is you don't. Therefore you can take out of
your grocery bills something pretty substantive, because I'd argue you
probably need milk. Most people need milk. I don't, but
most people probably do. That's gone up as well nine percent.
But the butter is the killer olive oil and butter.
If you took butter and olive oil out of your
weekly shop, you'd be better off. Literally, you would be

(01:26:10):
better off.

Speaker 15 (01:26:11):
Better than none. None of your cooking would work properly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Well, it depends how much cooking's going on. Is clearly
there's no cooking going on because everyone's out there with
the restaurant meals and it's ready to take away. See well,
if that's a no win situation, the no win situation, Glenn,
that's exactly what it is. Nine minutes away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Mike Costing breakfast with the Range Rover, Bila.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
News Toss micah beas's included in the food prices. Yes,
they are because it continues to increase. My dozen Carlsburg
used to be between twenty and twenty two, now up
around twenty eight. Yeah, that alcohol, it's all the stuff
you don't need in your life. It's ready to go.
It's restaurant meals, it's beer, it's butter. Cut all that
out and you'll find that life is actually cheaper. I'm
not saying do it because you'll be miserable, but you know,

(01:26:54):
I'm just trying to save your money. Butter mic is cheap.
Olive oil cost me sixty dollars a week. Let me
give you a tip on oliver. We've got a fusty
and a fusty is two things. One, it's quite a
good looking thing. They come in shapes and sizes, but
they generally, because they're Italian, they come in quite cool
looking shapes and sizes. And you put that on your bench,
and depending on what sort of size you buy, buy

(01:27:15):
a twenty liter one if you want, but you can
get a ten let. We got a ten liter one,
and we buy our oil in bulk. And when you
buy it in bulk, of course it's a lot cheaper
per liter, and therefore you save money. Plus you've got
a cool thing on your bench. So what is it
a fusty? It's a container for olive oil.

Speaker 15 (01:27:31):
It just keeps saying fusty, well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Because that's what it's cool. It's like saying, you know,
what is a scalpel? A scalpels a knife. A fusty
is a container for olive oil.

Speaker 15 (01:27:40):
It's oh, there, we've got there.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
It's a beautiful, generally stainless steel looking vessel for olive oil,
and it keeps it fresh forever, as far as they
can work out. Five minutes away from nine.

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Hook families during the bankruptcy option Now Jones when he
hood he was in shock.

Speaker 14 (01:28:16):
The Connecticut Democrats with The Onion newspaper.

Speaker 15 (01:28:20):
Bought us.

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They asked you they outbed They said, well, it was competitive,
so they changed all the bidding rules, made it secret
two days ago.

Speaker 14 (01:28:26):
I had a bad feeling. I told you that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
And just like they tried to shut us down back
in late May without a court order. They're supposed to
have a court order.

Speaker 3 (01:28:33):
There's going to be injunctions filed.

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
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Speaker 15 (01:28:37):
I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm going
to be here till they come in there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
He then went back online briefly.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Hey, shut off any moment, Pray for us, be nonviolent,
go blessed.

Speaker 11 (01:28:50):
We're not no now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
These folks are just pawns.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
They don't even know what they're doing.

Speaker 14 (01:28:54):
All right, stay with us.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
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turn it into a parody website, mocking weird Internet's PERSONALITIESUO
pedal conspiracy theories, and that's so good.

Speaker 15 (01:29:05):
It'd be like if TVNS had brought this show.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Stay on, We're go on, Hold on there coming now,
we're out of here. You have a fabulous weekend and
we'll look forward to your company on Monday's always happy days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
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Are you banging down me? Are you thanking bout me?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
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