Full Show Podcast: 17 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
Mike Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News, Togs,
Dead be.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Morning and Welcome today FDA time with India Trade Ministers
in India and with US Bob McMurray on the Big
Race in Melbourne yesterday. The lads in the commentary box
after right, of course, exciting news for our aquaculture industry
to share with you this morning. Winston Peters and Washington
head of Rubio meeting at Richard Arlse Price there along
for the Monday ride as well. Pasky, Yeah, brand new week.
Welcome to it, Monday morning, seven pass six. I hope

(00:30):
this isn't going to be a thing, you know? Is
it part of what keeps us coming back for more?
I wonder to myself, Yes, the Warriors win. If it
had been the first game of the season, would you, well,
it would have had you believing all things are possible.
Wouldn't it that this is a fit, fast, creative side
that's capable of beating anyone. Mainly were favorites, but were
their favorites because this wasn't Week one. Week one was

(00:52):
the calamity that unfolded in Las Vegas. Las Vegas was
a shock, well for me anyway. I mean, how is
it you can prepare that badly? How can you look
that out of sorts when you've had an entire offseason
to think about it and get ready for it. A
loss would not have been the end of the world.
But it's how you lose that counts. But then I
suppose it's how you bounce back as well, isn't it.
But that's the point. Is this a season of roller

(01:13):
coaster inexplicable outcomes again? Disaster one week, scintillating glory the next.
My brother texted me, we have to get you along
like the old days, he said. See, my brother and
I used to go to all the home games, and
then life and schedules and distance gone the way. I
texted back, why would I stay up late? My our
suck as well? Given it was an eight o'clock kickoff,
of course, why would I stay up late for this?

(01:35):
It was four minutes in and Manly had just gone
the length of the field to score their opening try.
Before I could text again, they'd scored a penalty. Had
the Warriors brought Vegas back with them to the home
ground though they had not, and what ensued is what
we want, and here I suggest what we expect. Yet
again we're talking about the theory versus the reality, aren't
we This is a good side on paper and occasionally
on the field. They've got a great coach and a

(01:56):
great structure and set up. How do we explain Vegas
followed by Friday two different time seems too different results. Obviously,
all they have to do is bottle Friday and roll
it out for the rest of the season. But then
if they could do that, we'd know what happens next
and the next and then next after that, and that
would be boring. I'll take Friday and its hope and
prospect and suggest if a chunk of that is where
we are headed. Then, as the first text I read

(02:18):
on Saturday morning, seed from my mate in Sydney, this
is our year.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
News of the world. In ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Disaster Macedonian nightclub fire, killing at least fifty nine.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
The fire broke out suddenly and everyone started running for
the accent. There were child bodies. Everyone's stressed. My sister
is missing. We were unable to find her in the hospitals.
So now we're waiting here to find out if she's here.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Are the government promising to get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
We have already detained persons related to the case. I
want to assure the Macedonian public that this case will
be determined with the exact answer, with name and surnames.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Trump lit up Aginn over the weekend at the Hootie
and the Yemen, which led the Iranians to weigh in
this morning.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
I warn all enemies we will give a tough, decisive
and destructive response to any threat if it becomes real.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
We have an update on the pope.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
A rumor was going around that potentially Pope Frontci's may
appear at a window here at the Jameli Hospital and
from behind the glass, even just a wave or a
few seconds in the event it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
And then in the UK are building a debate over welfare,
the dependency, honors and the pending cats.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
We've now got one in eight young people in this
country out of work, one thousand people every day as
signing on to personal independence payments, a thousand a day.
That's over the course of the year size of the
city of Manchester.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Now the Conservatives have got to touch the old I
told you size about them.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
We have further steps to take. We set those out
at the election. The Labor Party rejected those. They said
there was no money to be safe from welfare at
the election. I remember that very clearly. They're now coming
to it chaotically, too late, without a plan.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Finally, in other of these insane American legal cases, this
one has Michael Garcia picking up drinks from Starbucks. This
is in LA The drink fell out of the container
at the drive through, suffered severe Brune's disfigurement to and
debilitating nerve damage to the genesils. He sued. Jury agrees
with them, so at this point he's collecting eighty five million.
The president might have been set back in ninety four

(04:23):
when a woman sued Machs for the same thing. She
won over five million, but life was cheaper than of course.
Starbucks say they will appeal, no kidding. They call the
damages excessive, No kidding. News of the world in ninety
are UK economy. I'll have our numbers and our predictions
for Q four. But meantime, in the real world, the
first world, they pump numbers out slightly more quickly than

(04:44):
we do. Here anyway, the uk GDP over the weekend
for January sunk and that was a surprise. It sunk
zero point one. It's not the end of the world,
but they thought it wasn't going to sink and it did. Meantime, Gold,
you got to get amongst Saturday morning, our time at
cracked three thousand US. Fascinating to see that continues twelve
past six.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
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Speaker 2 (05:12):
Mark Corney got sworn and officially as Prime Minister in
Canada over the weekend. If you missed it, we're going
to get a bit of this this morning, Mike, Liam
had a tough, bad strategy. It was very clear to
me that one hundred and ten percent EPIC went into
the fixing of Max's car overnight. Hard for Liam and
not much support from Horner except a tight lips statement
stating the obvious never was a good leadership more critical
than in this race, and the gap between James Vales

(05:33):
and Christian Horner couldn't have been more obvious more throughout
the morning. Fifteen past six, Right from devn Pun's management,
Greg Smith, Welcome to Monday, morning, Michael. It's sentiment in
the US is souring, isn't it?

Speaker 9 (05:46):
He certainly is.

Speaker 10 (05:47):
So your consumers getting a perturbed abottle of the stock
market volatility and not surprising and all the uncertainly around tariff. So, yeah,
this is a University of Michigan's survey from March and
that posts a ten point five percent to climb from
fabriand you're quite a bit below estimates as well.

Speaker 9 (06:01):
It's twenty seven percent.

Speaker 10 (06:03):
Below a year ago, and it's actually the lowest since
November twenty twenty two. And yeah, consumers is getting a
bit worried about.

Speaker 9 (06:09):
What the future holds.

Speaker 10 (06:10):
You look at the future expectations measure that was down
fifteen percent on a monthly basis, and it's thirty percent
lower than a year ago. And it's not just it's
not just Democrats that are concerned about situations. It was
Republicans as well, so their expectations fell ten percent and
you're not surprisingly. All this goes with the concerns around
a higher inflation environments. The one year inflation outlook that

(06:32):
spike to just under five percent, that's the high since
November twenty twenty two, and the five year outlocked three
point nine percent. They have to go back to February
nineteen ninety.

Speaker 9 (06:41):
Three to get that sort of read.

Speaker 10 (06:43):
So it does also contradict that data we had last
week about the consumer price IndX sort of being under
control when wholesale price is flat, and I suppose consumers
just they aren't buying. The White Houses claim that tariffs
are one off shock, and I suppose it's also goes
against what the economic textbooks will tell you.

Speaker 9 (06:58):
So I mentioned to see what the f makes of
all that this.

Speaker 10 (07:01):
They meet this week, they expected to hold and probably
will adopt a weight and see approach and until I
suppose all the dust seedles on these trade maneuverings.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Okay, And then we come back home with these food
prices a month or month looked okay, fruit and vegies
are down and all of that sort of stuff. So
what do we make into the annual figure? Were worried
or not?

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Yeah, the annual figure was not so good news. So
food prices up two point four percent annually. That followed
a two point three percent increase in January. So it's
grocery food that was up four point three percent, and
particularly dairy milk high look at bat at the average
price of five and a grand block seven bucks steady
two in February.

Speaker 9 (07:34):
That's sixty percent.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
Higher than this time last year, so that's sort of
certainly upsetting things. Friend, veggies, they were lowered down six
percent camera potatoes and onions. As you say, this helped
the monthly figures. So prices for food actually foul half
percent in februarries, that's quite good news, and that was
after they rose almost two percent in January.

Speaker 9 (07:53):
Also, there was some sweet news for chocolate lovers.

Speaker 10 (07:56):
Mike so Valentine's Day special saw box chocolate prices down
twenty six percent in the month. But there's some other
interesting reading with some of those other selected price and disease.
So good news for travelers. International affairs down five percent
in the twelve months, so overall looking pretty good. It
feels like we're getting an encouraging picture for inflation, although

(08:16):
tariffs do have the potential supposed to upset the applicat as.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It were, indeed, but what about a two?

Speaker 10 (08:22):
What about a two up seven percent on Friday. So
it wasn't a company specific announcement. It's more about what's.

Speaker 9 (08:28):
Happening in China. Their main market.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
Basically, government agencies are trying to get the birth rate
going again now that has really struggled in recent years
over there, despite the one child policy going in twenty fifteen.
Then they've got the two child policy in twenty sixteen,
but actually, yeah, we started going the other way so
consumed living.

Speaker 9 (08:47):
Costs, career priorities that.

Speaker 10 (08:49):
Cut the pandemic obviously didn't help and actually saw China
its first population fall in decades back in twenty twenty two.
So yeah, officials are trying to get things going. To
the inn Amongo than capital of Hohot that's offering up
to one hundred thousand and one for families to have
a third child gets around about twenty four thousand key week,
so it's not small beer there or fifty thousand for

(09:10):
those having a second and some cities that have introduced
measures already having some success. Tianaman that's seen increased newborns
by seventeen percent over the past years since they've introduced policies,
so this is good news for infant milk demand with
more babies at has actually been doing quite well in
China anyway, despite a shrinking infant milk market, they've been
able to position themselves as a premium brand that's benefited

(09:32):
the financials. We saw them to clear its first dividend
recently and also showing up on the price shots. She
is now almost fifty percent.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
Year to day.

Speaker 11 (09:40):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
What are the numbers?

Speaker 10 (09:42):
So numbers actually were something to like on Friday as well,
So amidst all the volatility last week, so the Dow
up one point seven percent, s and P five hundred
up two point one percent, Nasda Cup two point six percent,
for one hundred up one point one percent, Ozzie was
up half percent.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
So it was the exetics.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
Fifty twelve two sixty six his goal down five bucks,
twenty nine hundred and eighty four, Oil up sixty three
cents sixty seven spot eighteen. Currencies Killy also flying high
fifty seven point five against the US that was at
point nine percent. Australian dollar ninety point nine high, British
pound forty four point five were higher by one percent
year as well, and against the end up one and

(10:19):
a half percent eighty five point five this week. I
know that we've got the ongoing developments around tariffs, but
we've got happy results in Fonterra speaking dairy the warehouse.
It's some manufacturing and service started. We're gonna have a
dairy auction. And are we still in recession? We've got
fourth quarter GDP numbers just offshore. We've got Nike in FedEx,
We've got trying to retail sales, US retail sales, building permits,

(10:41):
and like a big week for central banks, Bank of Japan,
Bank and of course the Fed. What will they say
about all these tariff de eolance?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Fantastic? All right, ketch up soon, make appreciate a very much.
Greg guests Smith Devin Fund's management. The GDP numbers out
there on Thursday, I'll give you the predictions very shortly.
By the way, the inaugural New Zealand Game Developers Association,
the end ZG, inaugur will report on the gaming development
industry in this country. They tell us it's growing. Listen
to this. It's growing more than ten times faster than

(11:09):
the global average. So we're on track to crack a
billion in the next couple of years. Twenty six percent
on the year earlier. Global average is two point one,
So the world is growing at two point one, we're
growing at twenty six. It's not bad. A six twenty one.
You're on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
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Speaker 2 (11:36):
We got some more um good economic news for the
country in just a couple of moments if you missed
it over the weekend. So they got the spending bill
through in the state. So, in other words, the government
isn't going to close down. So when we left Friday,
they basically had twenty four hours to sort it. They
did Schumer folded, which made it interesting because Chuck Schumer
in the Senate said, basically, look, this is better than
having no deal at all, which of course is technically true.

(11:57):
But the Democrats went what anyway, twenty two thirty eight
ten Democrats actually went with the Republicans. They needed sixty
votes to overcome a filibuster, so they did it. So
I win for the Republicans. But the Democrats now find
themselves in some meltdown. So we'll took to Richard about
that very shortly. Meantime, manufacturing here this is yet more
good news. As I say, we'll come back to the

(12:18):
GDP numbers before seven o'clock in the predictions for this
Thursday for the fourth quarter. But manufacturing is expanding highest
value since August of twenty two. This is the PMI,
so we're at fifty three point nine. We're up two
point two. We'll take that all day long. That's above
the long term average as well, so that's even more encouraging.
All sub index values went up into expansion territory, so

(12:41):
production at fifty two to four, new orders at fifty
one to five, employment of fifty four, so that sort
of counteracts the whole misery around the jobless numbers. This morning,
that's another three point two up. By the way, unemployment,
finished stocks fifty four point one, deliveries fifty six point two,
so we'll take that and bank it forty five.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Trending now with Chemist Warehouse, the home of Big brand Fighters.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Another trailer pumping the bread to put if one film
that's dropped over the weekend for obvious reasons. He plays
a veteran driver pears up with a new young gun.
It was filmed last year round the YP one circuit.
When was the last time you want to race Sunday Dayton?

Speaker 12 (13:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm sorry, Formula one? Oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (13:23):
Then same as you.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
There's twenty other drivers still out on that track. Do
you think any of them respect us? They're saying, Sonny
Hayes isn't a husband, he's a never one.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
I'm offering you an open seat in Formula one, the
only place you could say, if you win, you are
the absolute best.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
In the world.

Speaker 13 (13:56):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Preak, Brad Pitt, Harveer, Budam, Simone, Ashley Lewis. Hamilton, by
the way, has been involved in it, and they put
him down as a producer. It's also made by the
team behind Top Gun Maverick. It's in theaters and the
summer of twenty five. That's the American Northern Northern Hemisphere
summer of twenty five, so that's July ish. If you

(14:17):
don't like it at the movies, then it'll eventually end
up on Apple TV, also out over the weekend. And
I'm very excited about this despite what they told us.
They told us very succinctly and very clearly that ted
Lasso was a three season arc. They wrote it as
a three season arc. It was three seasons all day long,
beginning middle and then that was that. Well, there's a
fourth season coming now this is Apple TV. There were
some questions around whether they can get the whole cast

(14:38):
back together again. But Apple's picked it up, came out
originally in August of twenty twenty during the COVID pandemic
and everybody loved it one seven Primetime Emmys. And when
it's that hot, youve got to bring it back, because
that's what they do in the creative field these days. Now,
aquaculture I have yet can you handle more good news?
I have yet more good news on the New Zealand
economy with aquaculture details after the news which.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Next setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The
Mike HARKing breakfast with the range rover villa designed to
intrigue and use togs.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
That'd be from Germany over the weekend, where you'll be
well aware. They're trying to put together a government. They're
getting closer by the day. Mert is going to be
the chancellor, but he's from the Conservative Party won the election.
They're dealing with the Social Democrats who lost the election,
so they'll form a deal. But the big problem has
been the so called debt break. It was invented by
Angelo Merkle, which means you can't borrow any more than
a certain percentage of GDP, but they need to mainly

(15:33):
because the economy's buggered, and they also are under tremendous
pressure to boost defense spending. Over the weekend they managed
to get the Greens on board, so that gives them
the two thirds majority in the parliament once they get
the government together. The Greens aren't part of the government,
but the Greens are part of a deal that will
override the debt break. So they're underway. And he said
Germany is back. I'm not sure incurring yet more debt

(15:56):
in an economy going backwards as Germany being backed, but
he seems happy to three minutes away from seven cups
are in a mess as well, Stateside. At the moment
Richard ONLD with that shortly meantime back here might have
some more and more good news around the economy. This
is the prospect of our aquaculture industry becoming a three
billion dollar earner Northland's land based Kingfish farm. It's it's

(16:17):
part of that whole story now. Haku is what they're called.
It's the only facility of its time in the country.
It's already producing four hundred ton a year. There's already
international interest apparently and in less than ten years. They
say it could be bigger than salmon. So new Are
Aquaculture Chief scientist Andrew Forsyth is with us on this
Andrew Morning.

Speaker 14 (16:34):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
What's the timeline story here? How long has this been building?

Speaker 14 (16:39):
Well, we've been out at twenty years, and I think
that's a key part is to be successful, you've got
to put the time in and put the money in.
And we've done both and now we're ready to go.
We're on the cusp of great commercial I think you're
you're perhaps a tiny bit optimistic of where we are today.
We're probably two hundred times, but by the end of

(17:01):
the year, we hope to be at four hundred tons.
And it's the product flies out the door.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Well, when you say that, I'm not a huge expit
on fish, but what's the market the kingfish? As opposed
to any other sort of fish, it.

Speaker 14 (17:14):
Is a particularly high value product. I think what the
consumer is looking for is something that's like salmon, which
has been an enormous global success and has the eating
qualities of salmon, but looks a little different, tastes a
little different, and so you're looking for a fish that
grows quickly from a commercial point of view, you're looking

(17:35):
for something that grows really quickly, very efficiently, maintains good health,
has good eating qualities. On the consumer side, they're looking
for something that has a bit of high fat cooks
easily can be eaten either in a Japanese style cuisine
as a sashimi, or in almost any Western or other

(17:57):
cooked style that you care to mention pound pound.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
How does it sell.

Speaker 14 (18:03):
It sells very comfortable to New Zealand premium salmon run.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
So that's right up there. That's quality as well.

Speaker 14 (18:11):
Yeah, that's the quality and certainly better than you know,
New Zealand loves snapper, but it's certainly worth a lot
more than set napper.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, having said that, is there any sort of imaging
marketing branding around the land base versus the ocean?

Speaker 14 (18:27):
I think we're being we're certainly trying to put a
New Zealand stamp on this. So this is why we're
using the Haku kingfish branding. We want international and national
recognition for premium New Zealand products. So that's that's the
that's the direction of travel. The land based I certainly

(18:49):
am a believer that land based will dominate the production
certainly in New Zealand, but we're not excluding the possibility
of some sea based farming as well, using the land
base or sea based to complement the land based product. Certainly,
we know that if you can give fish a fast

(19:10):
start on land and then finish them at sea, you
can you can enjoy a lot of the benefits of
sea based friving which do exist, and avoid the negatives
of many of the negatives, you know, adverse temperatures in
certain seasons and that sort of.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Thing as far as an industry is concerned on the
incitement scale. Teen you're about the pulp. Where are you at?

Speaker 14 (19:35):
I think in ten years we hope to get to
perhaps five years. I think optimistically five years we could
be the three thousand tons we could see. In ten years,
I think we could we could treble that.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
That's pretty cool, you know.

Speaker 14 (19:50):
That's getting up with with where perhaps getting close to
where New Zealand chinep salmon production is today. But they
in turn a whole to expand significantly as well.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well. We'll follow it with the great Delarminitius. Appreciated and
wish you well. Andrew Forsyth and Neewherre Aquaculture Chief scientists
nineteen minutes away from seven last getting couple of random
things happen in the States over the weekend are they're booted.
The South African ambassador to Washington out. South Africa's ambassador
to the States is no longer welcome in our great country.
He's a race baiting politician who hates America and hates Potus.

(20:25):
So that was the end of ham. Meantime, there is
talk that the Americans are going to start banning a
lot of countries from flying in. So there's a memo
apparently that Reuters have got their hands on forty one
countries and three separate groups. Ten countries including the usual
suspects Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Cuba, North Korea they'd have a
full visus suspension, in other words, to be from that
country you can't get in. Second group includes Eritrea, Haiti, Laos,

(20:48):
mih and mah in South Sudan, So that's a partial suspension.
But then you've got twenty six countries, including places like Balarus, Pakistan,
tik Ministan, etc. A partial suspension if their government does
not make efforts to address deficiencies within sixty days. So
you're just some poor schmuck from Pakistan. You want to
go to Washington pro holiday, but because of your government,

(21:10):
you're not going to be allowed to. So we'll watch
them see how that unfolds.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
With a great deal ofment was seventeen too, the mic
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Speaker 2 (21:20):
Talks it be Now if you're not up on this,
I'll explain more shortly, but we're getting a bit of
this number. Just wondering where it goes this week, Mike,
wonder what outrage there would be if David Seymour suggested
in an EXPLETEI of laden post that YTT needed a
good hiding. So more shortly, six forty.

Speaker 12 (21:37):
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Speaker 2 (21:44):
Richard Arnold, good morning. What are you making so the Democrats?
I was mentioning Schumer before, but things things seem rapy
at the moment.

Speaker 15 (21:50):
Are they Dems in disarray? Yeah, it's a brutal reality
that they're facing according to this new polling out today
and the polling that was taken before the Democrat caved
and backed the Republican temporary spending. With this humor reversal.
A lot of Democrats are saying they should have shut
the government down, more on that than the tick. But
as CNN poll puts, the democrats favorable rating at a

(22:12):
record low just twenty nine percent. This is the lowest
ever reported for Democrats in a survey they first started
to ask about some thirty plus years ago. It shows
the party's favorability is dropped by about twenty points in
just four years. So Democrats are scrambling to find some
unity in dealing with Trump's second term and all the
chaos that is bringing Republican favorability by the way thirty

(22:34):
six percent. So Polly's not the most popular folks around
right now, are they. Many Democrats are saying their party
should do more to stand up to Trump, and that
is an enormous shift from the first Trump presidency back
in twenty seventeen. It's interesting to see the switch here.
Seventy four percent of Democrats said their party should work
with Republicans to try to get things done for the
benefit of the country. Now very different, fifty seven percent

(22:55):
saying the Democratic Party should work to stop the Republican agenda,
which brings us to what just happened in that budget
battle you mentioned where Republicans pushed through a temporary spending
plan without even talking to Democrats. They needed to get
a handful of Democratic votes to get this thing passed,
a measure that will provide some more money for border
control and the Pentagon, but little for anything else. The

(23:15):
Democratic Senate leader that Chuck Schuman, first said he would
not vote for the Republican plan, and most Democrats seem
to agree with that stance.

Speaker 16 (23:22):
I think they will be hugely upset and well justified.
You don't stop a bully by handing all your lunch money,
and you don't stop authoritarian president by giving him more power.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
It would be a capitulation to the Trump style of democracy,
which is the movement of democracy to dictatorship.

Speaker 11 (23:43):
The right thing to do is not for this institution
behind me to give up for six months all of
its power.

Speaker 15 (23:50):
Senator Curry Booker is speaking last year, but then their
leader Chuck Schumer did that complete reversal and back the
Trump bill, saying.

Speaker 17 (23:57):
As bad as the cr is, I believe a lot
Vowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via
a government shutdown is a far worse option. A shutdown
would allow doze to shift into overdrive.

Speaker 15 (24:12):
Well, that's an argument you can make, but that is
not the sentiment in much of the party right now,
And says Democrat Alexandria Carazio Cortez, I think there is a.

Speaker 9 (24:20):
Deep sense of outrage and betrailed.

Speaker 15 (24:23):
By their own leadership. The top Democrat in the House
of Kim Diffees was asked about the shumor backtrack, the time.

Speaker 13 (24:29):
For new leadership in the Senate.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Next question, have you lost confidence in him? The fact
that you guys see this so differently?

Speaker 15 (24:36):
Next question, So we're next for Democrats party divided?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Right, give me the update on the tornados.

Speaker 15 (24:43):
Boy, one hell of a night through a swath of
Midwestern and southern states. He dozens of tornadoes hitting, battering Missouri, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kansas, Texas.
Missouri really is one of the worst affected. As one
man recorded part of what was going on?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Would you all that degree?

Speaker 13 (25:01):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (25:04):
My god?

Speaker 15 (25:04):
Well, near Saint Louis, the storm's hit through the night
and truckdriver Dan Loncren, sheltered in the cab of his
semi had.

Speaker 16 (25:12):
Last flying everywhere in my face and my arms and everything.

Speaker 15 (25:15):
He had very lucky escape because his track was slammed
by another truck that was blown right over by the
fierce winds and into his vehicle. Then he washed us.
A local petrol station right near him basically was obliterated.

Speaker 16 (25:27):
And there was tons of people up in the store
that were just bringing around Ryan and screaming and it's
pre scared.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (25:33):
The small center of Taylortown in Mississippi also has seen
a lot of devastation and the still mornings continue making.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So you went State Richard on Stateside. By the way,
a little bit of court action around Trump, Judges ordered
several federal government agencies to reinstate some probationary employees that
got rolled. They applied to Agriculture, Defense, Energy, Interior, the Treasury,
and Veterans Affairs. Another court case were pending a bunch
of state attorneys general taking Trump to court over the

(26:01):
Education Department staff as thirteen thirteen hundred of them been doged.
But this is going to be an interesting one and
I think Trump's going to lose this. The Department's authority
to administer does not override Congress. Congress sets up the department,
and because Congress authorized it, you can't override Congress. So

(26:22):
I think that's going to go to court and Trump
will lose that one. But we'll watching wait with interest.
Nane away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
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Speaker 2 (26:31):
Dead be well, he Mike both. Therefore, seven five sevens
flew to Singapore over the weekend, that only one continued
on to Delhi. Was the second used as an insurance
policy in case one of the other broke down? Be
interested in on the cost, Paul, it's not a bad question.
You're reliving the middle of twenty three and Chris Hipkins,
remember that went up to China two planes, one weighted.

(26:51):
They pretended it wasn't a big deal until it was
a big deal, and they'd never done it before, so
they sort of misled us in the way that that
Labor government tended to do. What we were told is
that because of the size of the delegation, of course
you may well need two planes, but the fact you're
indicating one went that makes it slightly unusual. But certainly
the largest delegation concerned Luxeon flew up commercially, at least

(27:15):
to Singapore because he was involved in something in christ
Church before he left. But we will check on that,
but I suspect the size of the delegation is what
you're dealing with. But far far more important than that
is of course they've announced overnight they're chasing an FTA officially,
which is that's the FTA you want if you can
land a high quality and that's the great debate, of course,
because the Indians are a bit offy on the dairy.

(27:37):
If you can land a high quality TA with India,
it's gold time. But Trade Minister Tom mcclay's there and
he'll be with us after seven o'clock five to two.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with
business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Right. So GDP, as we've alluded to coming this week,
these are the numbers for the last quarter of last year.
Reminding us yet again they're adding up numbers and not
exactly a priority for the stats department in this country
given most First World countries. One put them out a
lot faster than that, and two do it month by month.
I gave you the GDP figure for January from the
UK earlier on anyway, for Q four of last year,

(28:15):
it's out Thursday morning, Q two and Q three if
you needed reminding, that dropped two point one percent, which
is our worst two quarters outside of Conford since nineteen
ninety one. That's what was left to this current government
by the last loss. So firstly, growth is almost certainly back.
There's your good news. Growth is almost certainly back. Everyone
seems to agree that Q four will be positive. A

(28:36):
and Z zero point four ASB zero point three. That's
in line with the RB west Pac they are the
most bullish at zero point five percent. Qwbank to say
zero point three percent, So in other words, it's anywhere
between zero point three and zero point five all positive,
so we'll take that bens it. They're still looking at
a couple of things before making their final fourcast, but

(28:58):
last week they were saying zero point two. Almost all
are saying that there's any growth, which they are that'll
be because of the primary sector and expert snow kidding,
I mean Deerry's just gone off and thank the God
for the farmers. Anyway, the goods producing part of the economy,
the investment activity is going to go backwards, so it's
going to be it's the usual story, some ups and downs,
but nevertheless, most people seem to think it's reasonably positive.

(29:20):
So the FTA, what chance of a quality FTA? What
are we looking at? What sort of timeline We're going
to have a look at that with Tom mcclayar, Trade Minister.
Also on the global stage this morning, Winston Peters. He's
just arrived. I was going to say touchdown, but he
took a train. He was in New York and he's
just moved into Washington. He's meeting Rubio this week. How
do you handle the Trump regime? Chrystal Adell, who worked

(29:42):
with Trump and New Zealander, of course, was involved in
that big investment summoned over the over Thursday and Friday.
His advice was keep your head down. And so we'll
see if Peters has taken that. He's with us after
seven thirty, and then of course we'll do the sport
being a Monday, the commentary box after a meantime. The
news is next on the My Cosking Reck, the.

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Speaker 2 (30:13):
Falling seven past seven. Some more good news for New
Zealand in because it's been announced overnight as part of
the PM's trade trip to India this week, they've officially
launched free trade negotiations. So what are we looking at
for specifically and how long does it take trade? Minutes
to Todd McLay is in India and with us morning,
Good morning mate, So India and FTA, if you can
crack this, this would be one of the big prizes. Surely.

Speaker 18 (30:34):
Yeah, I think that's exactly right.

Speaker 19 (30:35):
There's one point four billion people and their income are growing.
We've put a huge amount of work into this relationship
over the last fifteen months. Across the board noted the
trade and it started to be reciprocated. So we're really
pleased to have you formally launched the negotiation with India.
First negotiators will get together early next month. And although

(30:58):
you know it's very pleasing we've made progress, I've got
to say the hard work starts now.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
You're going to have to flag dearie, aren't you.

Speaker 18 (31:06):
Well we're not.

Speaker 19 (31:08):
We haven't ruled anything in or out on either side
because we said we want to be a comprehensive agreement.

Speaker 18 (31:14):
It's fair to say.

Speaker 19 (31:16):
That it's important you know for different reasons to both countries,
but we've also agreed we're not going to talk about
the negotiation outside of the room. We want to back
out negotiators be able to get in and do the
best that they can. And you know, both Minister Gui
my counterpartner I have said if we're out talking about
it in public, it makes it harder for them. The
assurance I can give you in every New Zealander is

(31:38):
we'll be getting the best deal that we can though
from India.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Do you have a bottom line at which point you'll
simply have to walk away as badly as you may
want it.

Speaker 19 (31:47):
Well, I don't think we will have to walk away,
although you know it did happened nine years ago last
time into the negotiation. We've spent the fifteen months sort
of talking through issues.

Speaker 9 (31:57):
This is, you know.

Speaker 18 (31:57):
I've been India five times now.

Speaker 19 (31:59):
I've had a meetings with my counterpart and my last
visit was up in December. Our officials have been meeting
frequently on the telephone and flying up and down and
seeing each other. I've been talking to mister Goel a
lot on the telephone so we can.

Speaker 18 (32:14):
Have a very clear understanding.

Speaker 19 (32:16):
Of how we might put together some of the issues
that have been more challenging previously.

Speaker 18 (32:21):
So we both agreed a little while ago we should only.

Speaker 19 (32:23):
Launch if we believe we can conclude an agreement and
we're committed to it. And I was locked away for
most of the day within the day, just working through
various issues, and we got to a point where we
have agreed we should launch. So we're backing ourselves to
get a deal done.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I was listening to Vandalayan and Europe the other day
say they should get something done with India by the
end of the year. Does this represent a new attitude
from India or have you just bludgeoned them to the
table to talk.

Speaker 18 (32:50):
It's a little bit of both.

Speaker 19 (32:51):
We started a while ago and they've never said no,
they wouldn't do a deal with us.

Speaker 18 (32:57):
But you know, we're a small economy back to their size.

Speaker 19 (33:01):
But I do think as a result of what's happening
with tariffs and so on around the world, you're seeing
a lot more countries who have been hesitant to do
trade deals, you.

Speaker 18 (33:10):
Know, leaning into that a little bit more.

Speaker 19 (33:12):
I mean, I was talking to the EU Commissioner just
a week ago, Trade commissioner and he was saying, well,
you know, as the.

Speaker 18 (33:18):
Rest of the world is doing whatever, we're going to.

Speaker 19 (33:20):
Support trade rules, you know, so we can give certainty
to our businesses and we're going to find ways to
do more trade with each other. So I think that's
probably part of it. But you know, Prime Minister Luxeon
said when we're in opposition and again forming a government,
our relationship with India would be a strategic priority across
the board, and trade is part of that. And I
think we're starting to see, you know, with the announcement

(33:41):
today on our first day here, as you know, the
biggest trade mission New Zealand's ever done to India, this
announcement that India is reciprocating the effort we're putting in.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Speaking of tariffs, you spent some time with James and Grea,
who's Trump's trade man. Is that going to go well
or not?

Speaker 18 (33:57):
Well, Look, my bi the world will see tariffs.

Speaker 19 (34:02):
It's not clear whether it's going to be unilateral or
country by country. Certainly looking very very closely at Canada
and that's going to get tough. The announcements around Europe
as well. The conversation I had with jameson Greer last
week extended to forty five minutes, much longer than we're scheduled,
and it was very, very constructive and friendly. There aren't

(34:23):
too many things that the US are worried about us
singling out around New Zealand. I was able to make
the case about we respect the rules that actually European
exporters have much lower tariff rates into our market than
ours do over there, and we've agreed that we're going
to meet quite soon, probably up in Washington, to talk further.
So there's no indication that they are focusing on New Zealand,

(34:45):
but if they decide to put tariffs on everybody, we
are likely to get caught by that one way or another.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
All right, go well this week, appreciated Trade Minister Tod
McClay up in India twelve minutes past seven oscar time. Minister.
By the way, whether us from India tomorrow morning. New
numbers back home around those having trouble with work. So
in the past year there's been a twelve percent increase
in the number of people getting job seeker. That's twenty
two thousand people size of Ashburton if you want an example.
Associate's Social Development Minister Penny Simmons is Will there's Penny

(35:09):
morning to you.

Speaker 20 (35:11):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
And the sad thing about this is the economists to
write it hasn't peaked, there's more to come.

Speaker 20 (35:17):
Well, that's right, and we knew that second numbers were
going to get worse before they got better. We knew
that when we set our target or reducing it by
fifty thousand jobing numbers by twenty thirty. And that's why
we've been so focused on growing the economy. And it
was great listening to talking to Todd. Great news over

(35:37):
the weekend that started talks on the Comprehensive Free Trade Agreement,
because it's that sort of really focused, great work that
Tom McCay has been doing that is helping our economy
because we need to grow our economy. We need to
grow jobs so that we can get people off the
job seeker benefits and into work. And you know, most

(36:01):
people on the job seeker benefit want to be working,
and so that's why it's really important that we're gearing
up the welfare system to make the most of forecast improvements.
And the economic growth is forecasted to improve over the year,
and we want to make sure that mESC is really
to go, and individual individuals on the job seeker benefit

(36:24):
are ready and ready to go as those jobs.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Come online because job secret you are meant to be
job ready. Do you have a detailed breakdown on skills
in location? In other words, do you have a lot
of people in the wrong part of the country or
along people with a lot of people with the wrong
skills and we need to retrain or not.

Speaker 20 (36:41):
Yes, So there's variable across the country. It's lower in
the South Island and so the gross is occurring in
the South Island and on the back of the primary
sector and tourism come back, and so we know that
there are areas where there may be skill shortages sooner
and others. So we need to It's not an exact science,

(37:05):
and it's very difficult often to get particularly young ones
to move and and young people at twenty five are
disproportionately effect by being on the job seeker high numbers
being on job seeker.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, ok, and you appreciate it very much. Penry Simmons,
who's the Associate Social Welfare or Social Development Minister, Mike
generally the air force preposition, all of that's null and void.
Now both planes got to Delhi. So the text about
the Singapore one. Yes, both planes went up seven five sevens.
Both planes went to Delhi and we were right. It's
the size of the delegation. Foll team Past.

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Speaker 2 (37:43):
A'd be Winston, Peters and Washington for you after seventh
thirty men times seventeen past seventy one was back obviously
over the weekend. One of the great races I thought
of all time. I mean there was chaos with the
weather which allowed the truly great to shine. Six of
the twenty cars fell off the track. That were multiple safeties,
but mclaar and Lando Norris showed how it was at
the end of the day. Land of Norris, one might
a s bought expert Bob McMurray, Well, this's Bob morning.

Speaker 21 (38:04):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
You enjoy it.

Speaker 21 (38:08):
From the the anticipation in the last couple of weeks
has been made to high, and I've got to admit
to being strangely stressed race and during watching the race.
So I enjoyed it very much.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Did you worry about Liam and P one and P two?
He was too slow? Is that a car, or is
it him or both?

Speaker 21 (38:27):
Well, he was too slow. It's it's basically a combination
of everything. I mean, you know, my ena natural wish
is to be supportive of of Liam and loyal, but
that aside, it was a torrident a weekend for him.
But there are lots of plauds to it and lots
of read for it, so I don't think he's got

(38:48):
to be too upset. But yeah, it wasn't a good weekend,
was it.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
No, Indeed, would they have put a lot of emphasis
Red Bull, this is on fixing because Max was slow
as well in P one and P two? Would they
put a lot of emphasis on his car? Left Liam
a bit by the wayside? And that's what you saw
because Max did well in the end.

Speaker 21 (39:05):
Well, obviously Max is the guy that's going to earn
the points for them, and they've got to make sure
that Max has got what he wants. But it seemed
to me that almost every time Liam went out and okay,
his first time back and he missed the one hour
of practice really really does not help, But it seemed
every time he went out he was given a different
specification car, even to the point where just before the race,

(39:27):
they changed the rear wing and I think they changed
their nose again, so he was, you know, he was
driving a different car every time he went out, and
that's not a good thing. Plus, the the natural bent
the Red Bull at the moment is very hard on tire,
very peaky on tires getting him in the right situation,

(39:50):
and that's not something Liam is used to. And that
was obviously, you know, came to some sort of conclusion
when he went off the road because he used to
tie too much in his in his previous parts of
the lapse. So but even Max was having all these
problems as well. It's just that Liam was not able
to cope with them as much and with a different
specific versification term. What's the man supposed to do. He's

(40:14):
got three different races to prove himself. He's the China
before as far as I'm aware, which is the next
his coming weekend, so he yeah, he's got to He's
going to get his head down and just do it
and hopefully they will not use him as a test
bed for Max's car again, which I think they were.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Doing very well. So appreciate Bob McMurray motorsport expert of course,
So yes, China this weekend, so it's a you know,
it's a quick turnover, and China's a sprint weekend, which
means there's one less practice, which means you go straight
to qualifying and you've got two races, so no pressure.
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Oh eight hundred triple nine three or nine at a
bar Health scados. In twenty four we received another of
these Government went against Officials advice headlines over the weekend.
You see that this was on bowl testing. The government
has recently announced that testing has dropped in age from
sixty to fifty eight. The money to pay for that

(42:15):
extra testing has come from separate Marian Pacific testing, which
cuts in I think from memory about fifty. The official
advice is that more lives could be saved if you
tested more Maori and Pacific Islanders. The new health Minister,
God bless them, said in response, what we need to
do to save more lives is test more people. He is,
of course unquestionably right, because the word people is critical.

(42:38):
We're all people and given we all contribute to the
system that tests us, exempting some from excess ie and
non Maori is not right yet again as part of
the race based system we have in this country, which
hopefully is slowly but surely being dismantled. Adding to this
officials advice part of the story is my increasing concern,
based on one the Brian Roach report into the Public
service generally and to the Deloitte report last weekend Health

(43:00):
New Zealand specifically, it is possible the so called official
advice is either pointless or politically motivated. Obviously, if you
start with the system that anyone any time can get
a test, and work backwards because it's not effectab or affordable,
at some point you come to a happy, ish, affordable medium,
age will be a factor. No point in bowel testing
in twenty nine year old so what's that magic number

(43:22):
they decided sixty until they decided fifty eight. Breast screening
mammograms of course have gone through the same debate for years,
but at no point should race be a factor and
yet it has been. Having just completed my first state
participant bowel screen, I would be deeply offended if I
was bumped, delayed, or stopped simply because I'm not Maori
or Pacific Island. I am a taxpayer and I'm a

(43:43):
New Zealander. My right is no more or less important
or relevant than anyone else's. And yet there are those
that would argue otherwise. By prioritizing race, you are saying
one life is worth more than another. You can't do that,
and that's what makes the official advice wrong. Fask like,
I've never watched an F one race before, but watched
Liam yesterday. I thought the rain added, intrigued with the issues,

(44:04):
what tire safety, cars and speed at corners, et cetera,
max with drs fascinating it was, But exactly I think
my summation was, if you watched yesterday and you still
didn't enjoy it, then F one's not for you, and
that's life. Mike, It's not for me, exactly, Mike. Everyone
was talking laws en up, including yourself. Bit of a disappointment, yes,
and no, I mean disappointing he didn't win. Disappointing he

(44:25):
didn't score points. At one point he was tenth, could
have scored points, but the car was against him. Luck
was against him, experience was against him. He hadn't been
on the track China, the pressures on. They spent a
lot of time. Max was slow in the early part
of the weekend as well, so they spent a lot
of time fixing Max's car that worked. They didn't have
time to fix Lilliam's car properly. He started from the
pit lane. His engine wouldn't work, he couldn't get out

(44:47):
in P three. Qualifying was a mess. They then decided
to stick a new wing. He was going to start eighteenth,
and then they went, actually, Liam, will stick Can you
wing on the back of your car? When you do
that caused the cars under what they call park Ferma. Anyway,
you can't do it, so when they do it, you
start in the pit lane. So he started in the
pit lane and then it's raining, and so the whole
thing was a cluster. It was a nightmare. So we

(45:08):
can't write that sort of talent off. I mean, you
can go to Hedger who literally spun out in the
formation lap and Carlos Sciens, one of the cleverest and
most experienced drivers going bowled out as well, so you think,
and Alonzo crashed so he was in good company anyway.
More on the sports department after Eights, the Monday morning
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Speaker 2 (45:43):
Get to the YTOT story in just a couple of
moments if you haven't followed it, and my main question
being is it actually a story. Mike Lawson also had
the fastest lap near the end before Norris got it back.
That's another way of saying he had the second fastest lap.
It's kind of like saying I was winning until the
other guys passed me in I wasn't. Don't forget Liam
got the second fastest lap of the race, and sort
of it's not a thing. It doesn't really, it doesn't

(46:03):
really matter. It used to be a thing last season,
in the season before, if you got the fastest lap,
you got a point for that, But the fact that
you got second fastest really means nothing. Unfortunately, And if
you look at the numbers and somebody very kindly texted
and he bought a letto. For example, he was fifth
at a particular point in time that's before he crashed.
So if you ask the question, would you rather have

(46:24):
the fifth fastest time, second fastest time, first fastest time
and crash or not crash? I think most people would
take the not crash part. Twenty three minutes away from
eight cop a three box Sanders travel Jason final because
Jason no the drawers. That's free draws in a row
for Auckland, Free draws in a row for Auckland. What's
going on there? Anyway? Big week for the country, as

(46:45):
we've alluded to, as we come face to face with
the Trump administration for the first time, foreign and fe
his Minister Winston Peters is in the States ahead up
a meeting with the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Mister
Peter's with us. Good morning, Good morning. How do you
approach the Trump administration?

Speaker 22 (46:59):
Well, approaching the Trump administration with our eyes wide open
and prepared to listen, hear them out, hear their side
of the story, and make sure that we get a
chance to accurately present our side of the story as well.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
What is our side of the story, And I mean,
how far down the track of our relationship do you
go in one single meeting with a guy like Rubio.

Speaker 22 (47:18):
Well, with a guy like Rubio, we'd go there well
prepared because we've had probably now over a year getting
ready well before the US selections in November, getting our
team Mady for a change if there was we thought
there would be a change to a Trump administration. So
we're seeing all those people, We're ensuring that they're in
contact with Rivia. I'm going to see somebody who knows

(47:42):
a lot about us Listen knows a lot about me
well well before my meeting with it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I always thought Ruby, I'd be interested in your take
on him. I always thought he's a top intellect, very
solid understanding of world affairs, and that's before you get
to the presidential side of the equation. Do you see
him in a similar light.

Speaker 22 (48:00):
Serving his career for quite a considerable time. I think
it's come an awful long way. I think it's very
very experienced, very talented. But you know, there are others.
The National Security Advisor Mike Waltz we're seeing today, and
also the US AID Peter Morico. We've seen him. That's
ahead of USA. We're seeing him tomorrow as well.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
So what specifically are you looking to get out of
the Rubio meeting.

Speaker 22 (48:27):
Well, look, our first meeting, but we've sluggen off the
phone and discussed at the time how critical this country
called New Zealand is to the United States in terms
of the Blue Continent, the Pacific. We're very very important member.
Also our longstanding record on democracy, freedom, liberty, all the
things that the American people regarded as being important. And

(48:50):
then in the big picture, the challenges we joint leave
base going through into the future.

Speaker 18 (48:57):
So it's a chance to catch.

Speaker 22 (48:58):
Up, but also to spend a lot of time getting
ready for him by talking to so many of his
people who are connected both for the present and himself.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I assume you're aware because before you left the country.
But chrys Ladell was speaking at the investment conference on Friday,
and he's got experience with Trump. Of course, he said
keep your head down, not used personally, but New Zealand.
Keep your head down. Is that good advice?

Speaker 22 (49:22):
Well, that's been my precise advice to the administration in
New Zealand from the word go keep our head down.
Wait till that doth settles before we make any decisions.
So I was very pleased that christ Deel came in
and said the same thing, because we needed to show
some experience in this matter right here, right now.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
How aware or how on the radar do you honestly
think New Zealand is, I mean, do we touch on
Orcus and five eyes and all that sort of thing
or not?

Speaker 22 (49:46):
Well, we do, but then a different way where it's
in New Zealand's case, the discussion has been going on
since twenty twenty one on Pillar two, but on the
other issues, we'd like to know going forward what progress
they're making on those areas.

Speaker 11 (50:02):
But zeal is not just a spectator.

Speaker 22 (50:04):
Muzum has been a significant country over a long period
of time where American interests are concerned, and our job
is some.

Speaker 18 (50:13):
To remind people of that.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
As regards to the Pacific, in what has been happening
in the Pacific recently, particularly with the Chinese, do you
think that's on their radar in a major way.

Speaker 22 (50:22):
I believe it's on their radar, and I believe it's
If it's not in a major way, then it needs
to be. Perhaps that'll be part of the discussion we.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Have what needs to happen from your point of view,
so you can walk out of this by the end
of the week saying that's a success.

Speaker 22 (50:39):
Oh I look, if you're going to make those sorts
of househul, I say it, that's a fair question to ask.
But if any politicians starts reacting to that, then I
think it'll be normally premature. This is a stage by stage,
build by build.

Speaker 18 (50:53):
Confidence and.

Speaker 22 (50:56):
Belief in what we're both as a country, saying we're
a small country but an important one. And to say
that at the end of the week we've had successful
discussions will be enough, providing we've got a commitment to
take those discussions board in a seriously meaning way both
respector trade and with respect to security.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
All right, go well at Winston Peters and Washington for
us this morning, it's eighten minutes away from eight asking
good piece have you missed it over the weekend from
Frano Sullivan and The Herald. In fact, they talked about
Crystal Dell Crysaladell. If you don't know, hell of a
nice guy apart from anything else, but he's a New
Zealander who's done very very well internationally and he was
and I'm making this up as I go along. It
was GM or Ford and I can't remember. I think

(51:38):
it was GM, but he was right up there with
GM and he took them through a float. And then
he got into politics and he turned up on the
Trump White House, Trump one point zero White House. He
fell out, I think, particularly unfortunately with the New Zealand government,
particularly due to Collins, because he was the transition guy

(51:59):
from the Trumpet administration to the Biden administration. He was
placed in charge of that transition process. And because it
all unfolded and turned a crap on the sixth of
January and he was in Washington, everyone went, oh, yeah,
he's one of those is he? Oh he's an insurrectionist,
is he? And that was all nonsense. And everyone I've
talked to, and I've talked to a few people about

(52:20):
the transition period, the Democrats spoke extremely kindly and well
of him as part of the transition. They said that
guy's a professional and he did a very good job.
So then after that, of course, once you're out of work,
you come back to the country and he's been doing
his own thing. But it was sort of suggested in
France piece that Luxeon brought him back in from the
cold to this meeting, and of course you've got to

(52:42):
tap into that level of experience, so it's good to
see him back. Chrysaladelm sixteen to two, The.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
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Speaker 2 (52:55):
Every now and again. Let me just put this to you, Mike. Sorry,
but there's not much point announcing the time if you
only give the minutes and not the hour. Are you honestly,
honestly telling me that you are so devoid of reality
that you have no understanding of what hour of the
day it is. So, in other words, it might be seven,

(53:16):
it could be eight, or it might be it could
be nine. Honestly, you're telling me that that's important enough.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
And also the number of times you get the hour
part wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I mean that's before I tell completely the incorrect time.
So which would you rather have? Yeah, exactly? Would you
rather have an element more accuracy because I tend to
get the number right, but not the hour, the minute right,
not the hour, or would you rather have me just
generally make it up and just give you And are
you the sort of person who if you don't know
the hour. If I said it was, you know, twelve
minutes away from four, would you go, oh, well, that's

(53:46):
been a good day's work. Then means that the sort
of person you are, so Rawari, is this a new
story or not? So acts responded. So Rawori goes home
to wherever Rawori lives and the missus is waiting for him.
Kirie's tells him to go do the lawns now. First
of all, Rari goes out to the lawns with a
weed whacker. Now, anyone who's doing the whole lawns with

(54:06):
a weed whacker is something wrong with him. He's not
an expert in the domestic maintenance.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Was just starting with the edges.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I don't know. I don't believe he is. I believe
he's doing the whole lawn. It looks like a lawn
that he's doing with the weed wacker. I'm open to
also not only telling the minute in the hour, but
to apologizing for him if he brings out something fabulous
from still that suggests he might have a lawnmark. But
at this particular point in time, evidence would suggest he's
only got a weed whacker and he's doing his whole

(54:32):
lawn with a weed whacker. So there's mistake number one.
I've just told him, says missus. It's tammahiry waity. I
told him to just behave as though every piece of
grass is a David Seymour. So you can see that
they're a fun couple when they go home and get
together over the weekend. Lawn's getting a good effing hiding

(54:56):
is the line in the social media post, Lawn's getting
a good effing hiding, at which point the act party
roll in and they criticize why to t for this?
We have a race based party that preaches racial supremacy
and violence. And a number of you have noted this
morning that if it had been Seymour out there with

(55:16):
this weed whacker suggesting he was going to give Rowery
I picture, I'm doing it. Let's still in the suit.
He doesn't. He loosens his tie but doesn't take it off.
If he had said I'm going to give Rowori a
good efing hiding, would we be handling it in a

(55:37):
completely different way. So there's my question to you. Ten
minutes away from it, the.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Asking Breakfast with Vida Retirement Communities News, Togstead be.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Mike why doesn't it take RAWI to the race relations
conciligator what for so they can make some sort of
weird ruling and understanding. Nothing all coming but Mike Trot's
property in Ashburton's back on the Market's funny you should
say that I got contacted by the Baileyes agent the
other day about Trot's property. Now, if you remember Trot's
property in Ashburton, I talked about it maybe a couple
of years ago when it was last last on the market.

(56:07):
It is the most internationally recognized spectacular garden, and years
and years and decades have been spent into making it
just absolutely gobsmackingly beautiful. It was bought by a couple
from I believe Auckland who went down and then they're
now putting it back on the market reluctantly, as I
understand it, because they've got family things they have to

(56:29):
deal with, so it's come back on the market. So
the agent contacted me and they sent me a beautiful
brochure and all those other things. It really is just
one of those incredible places. So if you happen to
be in the region, well, actually you don't have to
be in the region. The last couple from Auckland. It's
so beautiful you'd move for it. I did, of course,
pass it across the desk of certain executives who might
be interested in pursuing the opportunity to be told to

(56:51):
stop wasting her time. And that wasn't happening, and there
were various other words involved.

Speaker 5 (56:55):
But I mean to be fair, a man of your vintage,
do you really want a high maintenance to do it?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Property get someone to do it? You just sit there
and look at it. I get Raweri with his weed
wacker on it. I get Rowery down to Eshburton and say, mate,
can you tidy that up? Can you topray that for me? Rawarrie? Mike,
how are the school's meant to deal with bullying when
political leaders from fringe parties are publicly saying other politicians
need to be bashed. It's a very good question. It's

(57:20):
a very good question, Mike. I agree with the guy
about announcing the hour. Wait until you retire in time
becomes quite a different thing, Jason, I don't. I don't
think that's true. I don't think it becomes quite a
different thing at all. Not not. I mean, occasionally, though
Katie will say to me. I say something like, are
we having dinner tonight? And she'll go, oh, for goodness sake,
what's the time. And I'll go, it's well, in our house,

(57:41):
it's three point thirty, yeah, exactly. And she'll go, well,
where's the day gone? And so there is a bit
of that. You may well be right, where's the day gone?
You're already in your gym, jams. I shouldn't laugh, actually,
because it's true. So just let me know this. By
the way, I was looking to the westward bound of
my property over the weekend as the sunset, and I

(58:03):
saw to my westward boundary as the sunset, and my god,
the moon. My mother and I were emailing about the moon,
and it was just sam. It was a big moon.
It was a big, beautiful colored moon. The whole country
was talking about it set. Anyway, as I was looking
to the westward boundary as the sun was going down,
I noted the grape vines were still netted. In other words,
they hadn't been picked. So what I want to know

(58:24):
is who's picked who hasn't. If you have, when did
you start? What did you pick? Because I was thinking
to myself as the sunset down, sun went down. What
a fantastic summer it's been. And I know there are
certain parts of the country that are in drought conditions
at the moment and will be going housing. I don't
know anything about farming, so so there are certain parts
of the country there are in drought. But grapes, of

(58:46):
course love drought, and they love dry conditions, and they
love to strain just a little bit. And my summation
is in most of the country, and I know it's
changing the southern part of the country this week, and
this big sweep coming through, it's going to get wet
in summer's over. But my summation is that this could
be and correct me if I'm wrong. This is why
I'm asking the question. This could be one of the
great vintages of all time, because it has been. Certainly

(59:07):
in the northern part of the country are amazingly settled,
amazingly warm, and just the sort of thing that grapes like.
And so if they're not being picked at this particular
point in time, you're leaving them long, which means the
sugar's rising, which means by the time you get to
the fermentation, the alcohol content's high. And you might keep talking.

(59:29):
You might do a you might do a double a
double melalctic. You might do a couple of melalctics. And
if you do that, you've got wine. It's going to
live for one hundred years?

Speaker 18 (59:38):
Am I?

Speaker 10 (59:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Am I?

Speaker 11 (59:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Then we get to sport. I could ask Sab about that.
She'll I ask Sab about the great Vintage and probably not.
Andrew Savill and Jason Pine with the weekend sports activity
in the commentary box, which is moments away after the news,
which is next, You're a news talk.

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Speaker 23 (01:00:06):
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that Hurricanes have won.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Mike and Horror, Teo Wines, Mount Dunston, the State Vineyard,
Central Otaga, fifty six hectares of Pinan Noir. So a good, good,
great reaction. I'll get to that after the half hour.
We've got to do the sport now at eight past eight,
andrews Havill with us along with the Jason pine Fellers.
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
The IF one which we have to talk about because
one it was the opening to the season. Two it
was now part of the world and there for our
time zone, and three Lion Lawson was involved. Sab did
you love it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:33):
I loved it, Mike. I don't often watch a full race.
I just couldn't take my les off last night. If
IF One ever wants to attract even more fans, and
they've got chucking a bit of rain every race with
the track drama controversy. We had penalties, the restarts, the
yellow flag, the safety car, experienced drivers like Alonzo and

(01:01:57):
Sains crashing out that poor oak for racing bulls. Heger
is it who crash crashed out the formation lab?

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Liam Lawson thinks things went slowly Ryan, then he needs.

Speaker 11 (01:02:09):
To think of that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
And for Lillam Lawson, whatever could go wrong pretty much
did go wrong, didn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Yep?

Speaker 9 (01:02:16):
Did?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
What did you make of it? Jason?

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
Yeah? Very similar? I felt for Liam Lawson?

Speaker 25 (01:02:21):
But they put him in, didn't they red ball for
his mental resilience among other qualities that he has, and
he's going to need all of that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:27):
It really didn't go his way right from practice?

Speaker 18 (01:02:30):
Did it?

Speaker 25 (01:02:30):
Through qualifying all the problems he had? Look the car
set up for the staff and there's absolutely no doubt
about that. And a succession of drivers last year found
that out to their appareil.

Speaker 11 (01:02:39):
Whether Liam Lawson can.

Speaker 25 (01:02:40):
Rise above that and and you know, be a very
solid number two for red Bull remains to be seen.

Speaker 11 (01:02:46):
But I'm like sad.

Speaker 25 (01:02:47):
Look, I was at the football yesterday same time, came
home and watched a full replay and I was exactly
the same just just you know, totally compelling sports and
just the fine margins. Look, Orlando Norris, you know in
the wet to win it like that, deserve to be
on top of the podium.

Speaker 11 (01:03:05):
But yeah, I can't wait for the next one, which
is only about a week away.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
I think Norris made up for Brazil last year, didn't
He might rebottled it a little bit. Yes, he did
come in and change his tires.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
He's come of age. He's come of age because you
think about Pistre is just as good as Norris, or
so you thought, until of course he slid off. And
you know it's those who don't slide on days like
that the champions, which goes to why the Stappin has
seen as probably the greatest driver of his generation in
what he was able to do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
Now, those guys drive it close to, if not over
three hundred k's an hour in the wet. It's just
quite extraordinary. Liam Lawson might the final straw. Was it
the fact they didn't get him in and change tires
greater on He might have finished top ten if they'd
done that, wouldn't He was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Tenths at one point, which is in the points, and
they they blew the strategy or they didn't know what
they were doing. But I mean, I look at Ferrari
as a good example. They blew their strategy yesterday. That
was going to be a good day for them, and
they cocked it up. And the previous team principal got
sacked last year because he was hopeless entire strategy as well.
And this guy seems no better because that was a
that it wasn't a win, but it was big points

(01:04:11):
and they blew that. But what a day.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
They found it strange that here are these teams with
millions and millions and millions of dollars at budget and
rain radars, yeah, and people that make these key decisions.

Speaker 11 (01:04:23):
How often they get it wrong? Panic yeah, panic, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I reckon, it's Iregon, it's panic And they can't think.
I think if you've got a team, think about it
from a company point of view. You've got a thousand
people working for you, right, And I don't know people
who don't follow. If one understand that there's a thousand
ish minimum thousand people working in the company and you're
in charge of a split second decision along with your
driver as a bit of drizzle comes through or maybe

(01:04:48):
it's rain or maybe it's a storm, or maybe it's not,
or maybe it's dry, or maybe it's tight, or maybe
it's a bang. You got to start right now, and
that's when they panic and they can't handle it. That's
what makes it so fascinating. Now, tell me, Jason, more importantly,
what's going on with Auckland. Three draws in the row boring?

Speaker 11 (01:05:06):
We really need to get to a long tour game,
don't we.

Speaker 25 (01:05:09):
Look they they've actually have found a way recently, actually
of snatching draws from the from the.

Speaker 11 (01:05:16):
Jaws of victory, if we can put it that way.

Speaker 25 (01:05:18):
There's twice at home now they've conceded late goals to
draw matches. Look, I don't think it's panic stations. They're
still top of the league. But yes, Steve Corikel will
be starting to wonder why his team is conceding late
goals and soft goals too. The equalizer yesterday for the
Central Coast Mariners, who were down the bottom of the table,
was very soft. The two went ahead, should hold that lead,

(01:05:41):
should win that game at home? A soft goal and
they drop two points. They'll still be okay, but his
brow will be getting a bit furrowed. Yeah, three draws
in a row. You know that's that's sin points dropped
getting towards the business.

Speaker 5 (01:05:53):
End unless it's eight seven. Jason Hoskin doesn't want to
know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I like actually said we got a good number of
points over the week with rugby. Let's talk about that
in the moment. Andrew Sevill Jason Pine thirteen past.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
And Jason Pine the rugby said the local derby's were.

Speaker 9 (01:06:28):
Good, very good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
Mike, Yeah, yeah, yeap. Friday night in Dunedin two points
was it miss dropped goal to win it?

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
And then Blues Chiefs on Saturday night.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Don't thought it was an extraordinary game. One of the
tries the Chiefs scored was would have to be already
hands down try this season. But the Blues hanging there,
They've got a few issues. I think they looking a
little bit confused as to what sort of game plan
they're playing, but they've got some good players in that team.
They will probably come right. Although one and four it's

(01:06:58):
a long way back tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
How many do you need to want to make?

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Overall?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
How many do you need to win?

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
In contention, I think you can only lose about four
or five.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I'd say, okay, so they're on the cusp yeah, yeah,
but no.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
And then the Crusaders young Macha spring of this winger
who's always had a lot of positive news or behind
the scenes that he's going to be a very, very
good player. I think he's twenty twenty one. He's scored
five for the Crusader. So I thought, overall, once again,
a compelling watch, Mike, that's what you want. You want games,

(01:07:35):
you want close games. I think I've worked it out
the other day that out of about twenty twenty five games,
thirteen or fourteen have been decided by three points or less,
which is fantastic for the competition.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
I think so. And the Christiage game was brilliant because
it was a beautiful day, decent crowd, and a lot
of points. I mean, how many points were there? About
eight hundred and three or four by the.

Speaker 11 (01:07:54):
End of it was just being I loved a Mike.
None of this boring draw stuff down. No, exactly eight
points exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I get something. Yeah, eighty eight points exactly. That's that's
called sport, Jason. That's how it works. Lots of points.
You don't know what's going to happen next. It's fantastic.

Speaker 11 (01:08:09):
I think.

Speaker 5 (01:08:09):
I think once winter kicks in, you'll see the amount
of running plays slow down. I think you'll see the
dust settle a bit, or things settled bit. My many
concern is with eleven teams. Now at every third or
fourth week, teams seem to be playing each other again.
There seems to be that they've got to be careful
that it doesn't get a bit too same same.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Now, fair enough, you weren't following that. I've got to struggle, Jason.
But this this T twenty thing that's going on once again.
Christ you just look beautiful and all that stuff. But
I mean, are you following that to your grip by
this or not? Really?

Speaker 25 (01:08:39):
No, no, not at all. I mean I'm a bit
of a purist when it comes to cricket. No red
ball cricket to enjoy after Christmas this summer. Look, I
get the T twenty, you know, past the bills. But
apart from the fact that we've got to see a
few new and fresh faces. Yesterday Pakistan were awful, all
out what one hundred, same with Strilanka and the women's
game all out for one hundred and thirteen or something similar.

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
Yeah, I just find it very hard in amongst a
jam pack sporting weekends. Yeah, to give the crecket too much.
Are we going to talk about the Warriors?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Well, of course, I mean I was. I was. I
didn't want to sort of dominate the program Jason and
sort of you know, drive it from my own personal
fun and standpoint, but you know, I think you should.
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
I thought the performance was great and the defense short.
Up after that Vegas debarcle, I thought the crowd wasn't
that big, did you? I thought it would have sold
out first game.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
My brother was there. It's too late. I mean, you've
got it. It's like kickoff at eight. My brother's there.
I go to bed at like eight thirty on a
Friday night, so I'm no good he's there. But if
you kick up at eight, kick off at eight.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
You're finishing it a long lunch on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
No, it's because I worked these dumb hours and it's anyway,
don't get me started. So you're finishing at ten on
a Friday night, then you've got a traps to the
car park, and then by the time you get to
the clubs it's eleven thirty. You know what I mean.
It's like you're mucked up whole Friday night.

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
And in the trains have been the trains have been canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Trains are off work past the well, past the train
station yesterday they're going there, and you catch a bus
which doesn't come either. So what do you look at?

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
But it was Britain Seed that that made a point
of having the kickoffs at five o'clock, which I thinks
were superb.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Play in the sunshine for God's so you can give
people a chance. But the point what I started the
show with this morning, well I can't work out with
the Warriors is Vegas was embarrassing and inexcusable and yet
Friday night was fantastic. So which which is what have
we got?

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
I think it's got to be consistent, right, They've got
to find that consistency.

Speaker 25 (01:10:41):
Yeah, you can't be Vegas one week and and mount
Smart the next, Mike, So right, you can't just go
from peaks to troughs like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
But how many seasons have we had this conversation? Are
we going to have another one? Another season full of
the quite positive? Somebody said, I'll ask you the same question, Jason,
somebody who just takes to say, why an't you talking
about sal GP? Why aren't we Is that another thing
we don't really care that much about. I mean, they're
leading in LA at the moment, so should we be going,
oh my god, look at the sale GP? Or is
it just that another invented sport.

Speaker 18 (01:11:11):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:11:11):
I like sale GP. I do like it.

Speaker 25 (01:11:12):
It's just I think got lost in amongst the other
stuff not finished yet. Of course, it's day to today
from about ten this morning, so maybe yeah, maybe on
on Sports Talk tonight seven to eight on ZB Mike,
you're Mike in some of that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Are you doing that tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:11:24):
Are you?

Speaker 11 (01:11:24):
I am doing that show tonight?

Speaker 24 (01:11:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
You're not in this studio, are you? No?

Speaker 11 (01:11:28):
No? I know I have quite graduated to that level.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Were you in the studio over the weekend?

Speaker 10 (01:11:34):
I was?

Speaker 25 (01:11:36):
I was not.

Speaker 11 (01:11:36):
What what's what has been left behind?

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
I don't deny everything, Jason, deny everything?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Just testing you because I'm running through the replays of
the video cameras that are in here now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
And do you do you take fingerprints and DNA DNA
test every Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Don't have to when you got the cameras, Andrew. And
there'll be a lot of really nervous people, a lot
of very nervous people have denied a lot of stuff
in the udio. Now that I got the cameras rolling
twenty four to seven, there's going to be so.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
I don't know if I've got time. But I was
out and about amongst my people at the luncheon on Friday,
and I bumped into a very experienced America's Cup sailor Yes,
who said he doesn't know if it's going to be
back here. He thinks they're running out of options around
the world, so might well be back here. Barcelona, in
his words, was the shambles and not a contest. Did

(01:12:26):
you look at sale GP great contest? Yes, it's Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
No very good point. You want to name names on that,
Andrew no.

Speaker 11 (01:12:36):
Otr.

Speaker 5 (01:12:37):
At the luncheon Chatham House Rules O tr off the ridge.

Speaker 11 (01:12:40):
With Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
House through good and Sight. Nice to see you guys,
Jason Pine, Andrew sevill for another week.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
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You know a rain drover when you see one. Obviously,
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Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
I'll come back to the grapes in a moment. Ben
Campbell I forgot to mention. So he's on LIV. We
had him on the programme a couple of weeks ago
when he was headed into Adelaide. He'd come the week
before was at fifteenth or something. You got half a
million bucks, and over the weekend he came third two
point six million. So add that together is one three.
By coming fifth and fifteenth and third, he's made three
million bucks. That's not bad a. So my question is,

(01:14:15):
and we should ask Steve about this because he's a golfer,
is when you win two and a half million dollars
by coming third and you know going into the weekend
that you're going to win some money anyway, because that's
how Live works. And talking to my substitute hairdresser the
other day because Gregor was away yet again, my substitute hairdresser,
he's a massive live fan, and I said, do you
like the format? He goes, I love the format, and
he's a golfer. He says the format is absolutely fantastic

(01:14:39):
and he's drawn to it. But does you do you
swing more easily? In other words, to your shoulders loosen
when you have one two and a half million dollars?
Say yeah, what the hell? And then you just go
for you just loosen right up anyway, We'll ask Steve
for sure. Importantly, is Greg all right?

Speaker 10 (01:14:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Do we need a picture like the mot prove proof
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Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
The only report you need to start your day. The
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Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
Togs dead be Mike Hortio wines Mount Dunston Estate vineyard,
Central Otago, fifty six hectares of pino, ten rows of shadi,
and we're looking at harvesting around the second week of April.
Grapes of fantastic a lot of them as well. So
that's good, Go well with that, Jeannette Marlborough. Mike just
getting started to hook into the grape harvest. Wira River

(01:15:26):
began harvesting something obloc yesterday, as you quite rightly say
it's another great vintage. Well, I'm very pleased to hear that, Mike.
As you know Northland generally quite early in New Zealand,
and I'm driving north today to pick the Meilbeck in
the Sera in perfect conditions, Mike Wild conditions have created
a great vintage. The reality is for commercial wine making
is that every commercial arts Goe winery is still sitting

(01:15:49):
on about eighty to ninety percent of their twenty four
vintage still in tank. So I haven't sold it yet.
So in fact, you'll never know how good the vintage is. Well,
the people obviously who who pick and pop it in
a bottle, and I'm not at that commercial level, will
be knowing how good it is. But it was good
to Yeah, So it's a lateish vintage in some parts
of the country and it's good from top to bottom

(01:16:10):
in terms of quality. Which will take twenty ten minutes away.

Speaker 12 (01:16:13):
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of mind for New Zealand Business Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Gadmin's Steve Price. Very good morning to you. Stephen.

Speaker 24 (01:16:22):
Good morning. Interesting you're talking about wine because we're going
to have to talk tariffs. Obviously, the tariff war with
Donald Trump and the Americans. Now, Don Farrell is our
trade minister. He's been in touch with his counterparts both
on Friday and he's going to be on the phone
again today. And the producers in Australia are very worried
talking about your magnificent in a NOAs very worried about

(01:16:44):
possible tariffs on things like beef and wine. Now Farrell
said on Sunday he'll talk to the US Trade Ambassador
Jamison Greer today. He talked to Howard Lutnik on Friday
and he said, this is a direct quote. What we
need to do is find out what the mbor Bericans
want in terms of this relationship between Australia and them,

(01:17:05):
and then make President Trump an offer he can't refuse. Well,
that's interesting because we've already apparently offered greater access to
the US to Australian critical minerals. They said, no thanks,
but I want that, and he talks then about what
else they can do. Now, this of course comes as
we also in this country enter into pre election mode

(01:17:26):
and we're having great argument as you are, about whether
there should be Australian boots on the ground as peacekeeping
force in Ukraine. Peter Dutton has made this an immediate
election issue. He said, I reject the idea of sending troops.
He's then got the PM on the weekend it was
in Melbourne for the Grand Prix, saying quote it was
not clear who Peter Dutton stands with or what he

(01:17:47):
stands for. The opposition is using both the tariff decision
and this peacekeeping operation as a real wedge in any election.
And coming up, how is it?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Let's go back to the relationship with America. First of all,
luttnik On I think it was Friday, could have been Thursday,
called you guys dumpers when it came to aluminum as
they call it, and you are not. You guys sell
a bit of steel and a bit of aluminium. But
in terms of what Canada does in China does it's
nothing and you don't dump And you've had that argument before.
So where do you go with that when they are

(01:18:20):
misrepresenting you and Elbow hasn't even got to the White
House yet, I mean, how do you handle.

Speaker 24 (01:18:24):
All that when you come to the number the problem
and that is Kevin Rutt I mean previous ambassadors and
you know you can talk about Joe Hockey in particular,
but other Australian ambassadors, like artists and adinas, they have
been able to form relationships in the American system, so
that American politicians, who had battled quite frankly to point

(01:18:46):
out Australia and New Zealand on a map, know exactly
what the situation is and who's making aluminum and where
it's going. I mean, one of the major producers of
aluminium in Australia basically is an American company based in
the US, wholly owned by American So that's the problem.
Lutnick and go under Trump just chuck everyone in the

(01:19:07):
same basket and don't bother to do much homework. But
I blame Australia, and I blame Kevin Rudd and his
appointment is ambassador by Anthony Albanezi. We should never forget
excuse me, that was a captain's pick by alban h exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Now, these peacekeepers, that's not a boat swinger, is it.
I mean, if you've got the government saying one thing,
the opposition is saying another. No one's voting for or
against the government or an opposition because we may or
may not have peacekeepers on the ground or am I
wrong in that?

Speaker 24 (01:19:33):
I think you might be optimistic. I mean, I think
it is an issue Australians have, you know, under various governments,
whether they be coalition or labor, have often sent troops
to conflicts overseas, particularly in places like Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq,
where you know, quite frankly, we had no business necessarily

(01:19:53):
being there. And this is a coalition of the willing
led by the UK government. Now, I think Australians it's
not an election decider, but I don't think many Australians
have much of an appetite for US sending Australian troops
into that situation. I just don't think we think that
we need to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Interesting do you enjoy the F one? I assume you
watch the F one.

Speaker 24 (01:20:17):
I watched it. I couldn't go because I can't put
an arm in a sling, and I noticed you didn't
have much sympathy for me. But that's okay. Huge crowds there,
particularly Saturday, they had one hundred and eighty thousand yesterday.
The rain knocked everything about, but it was just an
extraordinary event. Although there is some debate again about what
it costs of Victorian taxpayer somewhere between one and two

(01:20:40):
hundred million dollars to stage it every year, and that's
what we lose on it. And so you know, they
babel on about economic reform and all that sort of stuff.
But here's my major gripe. You know how I love
bike lanes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yes, the track exactly.

Speaker 24 (01:20:55):
Is full white painted, stupid, useless, non using bike lanes
and the cars all slipped all over the joint and crashed.
I mean, why would they have bike planes painted on
the racetrack. I mean I used that bit of road
quite regularly. It's beautifully surfaced and you have to hold
yourself back, not to speak. I never see bi criders

(01:21:17):
on it, and it's just madness.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Now you've got the same thing. Bike lanes are in
general not used by bike riders, and you were in
the world as far as I can work out. By
the way, I was thinking about your medical predicament, which
nobody knows about, so we should introduce it as a subject.
And I was thinking about it because Blake called Ben Campbell,
who's a golfer from New Zealand. One came third in
the live golf tournament over the weekend and two and
a half million dollars and I was asking before the news,

(01:21:40):
if you'd won two and a half million, do you
swing more freely? And then I thought about you, of course,
and I'm assuming with your shoulder operation that must have
interfered with your golf game slash swing for god knows
how many years it will.

Speaker 24 (01:21:54):
I've last played two days before my shoulder surgery last week,
and for all the golfers listening to it, so I
had quite a good stable for the score. I now
can't play probably for six months. It's in a sling
and very painful. But we'll see how we go on
television tonight. I'm not sure that they'll be prepared for.

Speaker 2 (01:22:12):
Oh you're not turning up on television sling? Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
You vote?

Speaker 24 (01:22:17):
You're a TV star? What do I do?

Speaker 10 (01:22:19):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
What are you going to have your sort of your
jacket sort of draped over your shoulder with a sling
underneath and like correct, Yeah, all right, I'll video it
and I'll let you know how it goes. By the way,
just quickly before I forget the GST carve up which
has happened. Victoria gets three point seven billion as a windfall,
Queensland one point two billion dollar blow. Is this rigged

(01:22:45):
or is it where they say no, it's all above board.

Speaker 24 (01:22:48):
Well, the government say it's an independent body that allocates
the GST, so we all pay gest. It goes into
one big pot and then this crowd will work out
where it goes to. Now, the big states with mining assets,
Queensland and Wa been screaming forever because you know they
get the mining royalties. So this independent group says, well,
you don't need to so much GST. Melbourne's been flooded

(01:23:09):
with immigration, with migrants, and so the government in Canberra
via this group, so will Melbourne. Victoria needs more money.
The cynic in me says, Victoria's broken, definitely needs more money.
It's got a labor government and the labor government needs
to win seats in Victoria. People would tell me, well,
how do you work that out when it's an independent body.
I don't know, but it looks pretty smelly to me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
All Right, go, well we'll see Wednesday. Appreciate it very much.
Steve Price out of Australia this morning. Just before we leave,
there's a guy called Mike cannon Brooks. Just before we
leave the F one, Mike cannon Brooks runs at Lassian,
who are the named sponsorship partner with Williams these days.
He's a greenee, not that there's anything wrong with being
a greenee, and he's a tech guy and he wants
to save the world and that's a great tie up.
And Williams did very well. Except the problem is Mike's

(01:23:54):
having to defend himself this morning because Mike has his
own plane. And then Mike hops on his own place
and he pops down the road to the Melbourne If
One and everyone goes, Mike, Mike, what about the environment?
Mate fourteen to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard
By News Talks that'd be no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
It also didn't have time. But the power prices. They
have a weird system in Australia where the Australian Energy
Regulator has a bit of a look around and goes, well,
your prices can go up by x depending on where
you live in Australia. And it's gone up what was
announced by two and a half to eight point nine
percent eight point nine percent in New South Wales, thanks

(01:24:36):
for coming. So that's inflationary. Of course, then is a
problem if you happen to be the government running for reelection.
They go, it's an independent regulator, but no one cares
about that. By the way, Chris McGoldrick is not a
name you'll necessarily no, but he was on the program.
I can't remember last year sometime. He had a thing,
an app called list Assist, and he was rolling it

(01:24:58):
out in America and was going pretty well. And it
was basically an AI tool that allowed natural language queries.
So you would talk to a list assistant and go,
I want a four bedroom house, three bathrooms, about eight
hundred square meter property. Their houses two hundred and eighty
seven square meters and I'd prefer a tiled roof and
a pool and maybe a blue letterbox and then it

(01:25:20):
would be able to go through and being there U
are no listings under that requirement, but or something like that. Anyway,
he sold it. It was announced over the weekend. So
a Utah based firm has bought that how much who knows.
No one's talking about it, but he started that in
twenty twenty two. So he's another young New Zealander who's
out there doing wonderful things and living the dream. So

(01:25:41):
congratulations to him. By the way, speaking of which I
also note that Luna Park was the other thing I
wanted to mention about Australia. If you have been to
Luna Park in Sydney, not as good in my humble
opinion as Lunar Park in Melbourne. First amusement park ever
went to was Luna Park in Melbourne. Many many minny
mini Mini Mini MENI men many years ago, and there
were two roller coasters. I've never been on a roller coaster.

(01:26:03):
It was back when everything was black and white, very
much so, and the one sea was one was called
the Twister, and one was called the Scenic Train. And
I thought I'll take the Scenic train because the Twister.
I saw the Twister and it was going run around
really fast, and I didn't want to say anything, but
I was scared, so I thought, I know, I'll go
on the scenic train because the scenic train sounds soft

(01:26:25):
and gentle, except what they meant by the scenic trainers
they went. It went on the outside of Luna Park,
like on the very outside, and up and down. I
didn't realize how up and downey it was until it
started to leave the station. Just go up, up, up, up,
up up up up, got to the top, went around
the edge of Luna Park before it went oooh down,
whereas the Twister just went round around, didn't really go
up and down anyway. They've reopened the Big Ride at

(01:26:49):
the Wild Mouse roller coaster at Lunar Park in Sydney,
which is the one of those old fashion wooden roller coasters.
They've done a major reno on it and so next
time you're in Sydney check that out. Eight away from
nine the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:04):
They'd be could also mention, speaking of New Zealand as
doing well. Rocket Lab they did a deal over the
weekend with utel Sat, which, if funnily enough, I told
you about the other day. Utel sets become quite a thing.
The share price has gone through the roof. Once the
Americans turned off the intelligence in the war to Ukraine,
which of course included Starlink, utel Sat became a thing

(01:27:26):
because they essentially do the same sort of thing. They
were selected by Airbus to the Constellation Satellites to supply
solar panels for one hundred and one, where blow Worth
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in all of that. Those panels are going to be
manufactured at Rocket Labs solar production facility in Melburquerque in
New Mexico. So it's allrey cutting edge. If you were

(01:27:49):
those guys up in space, you'd be pleased the Elon
people arrived. Would you be going, oh, thank god, you've
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Horses the actor Gary Oldman. I started watching an interview
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television talk about Ernest. Oh my god, thank god. He's
a good actor, because talk about Ernest. So I was
going to recommend you to look that up, but I'm not,
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(01:29:46):
but the interviewer, oh my god. Anyway, We're back tomorrow
morning from six Happy Days.

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