Full Show Podcast: 18 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted Home the News for Entertainment, Opinion and Mike
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and welcome today.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Not just myler, but the spending on consultants and health
is up, not down. Did anything outside of glad handing
get done today? Peck will find out a bit of
angst around taxis ripping off punters over the weekend. David
Seymour on some charter school application issues. We got the
lads in the common true Box. We've got Richard Arnold
and Steve Price making the show.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
What it is as well asking welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
To Monday, seven past six. Part of the problem with
debt is attitude. As the IID chases once again all
the people who owe them from student days, it's not
unfair to ask. You don't think whether the money will
ever be paid back. Two point two billion from expats
is a lot of money, don't you think, mind you
so as the many hundreds of millions of dollars ohed
by parents and child support cases. A lot of it

(00:54):
is in penalty interest. In other words, penalties on penalties
and in both cases, if you ever did decide to
front up and look to but a deal, a lot
of that would be written off. So what is actually
owed will vary widely, and that's before you get to
how much, ever, comes back to where it started from.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
See.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Commercial banks operate in the same way, but if you
read their results of late the money they set aside
for bad debt has plummeted dramatically, And that's because they
have a different attitude to countries and governments. They actually
insist that alone is a financial transaction. Politicians like Biden
and Elbanezi use debt for their own political means by
offering sweetheart deals on payback. In Biden's case, he's happy

(01:28):
to write of hundreds of millions of not billions of
dollars in student loans all over the place. Mind you,
he leads a country in one of many that literally
has never and will never pay their own way. Debt
is not a thing you pay back. Debt is a
thing that you may grow larger and larger. Even in
the hypothetical world of global politics, there are banks like
the IMF International Monetary Fund who warn constantly about debt

(01:51):
and how indebted we all are and how eventually it
will have circumstances, but no one seems to care, which
is why, along with youth, whether innocent or arrogant, we
find so many graduates with student debt problems. They didn't
get it, they put it aside for another day. The
job turned out to be a bit crap or a
bit low paid. They left the country so they thought
they'd get away with it. Is it any different to
Sri Lanka? Are they recently signed yet another bail deal.

(02:14):
They owe more money to the IMF than they have
than they ever will have. So is that alone or
is it a charity? We are one of the few
countries that periodically, not often these days, but periodically actually
spends less than we earn. It is to be encouraged,
but it's clearly a dining art. But then, even when
we do run a surplus, some of it at least
is predicated on the idea that money owed on our books,

(02:35):
ie student debt or childcare is actually going to get
paid back someday when we know it is not. So
is it really all just smoke and mirrors? Is it
basically what we want it to be?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Why News of the World in ninety seconds, and.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It could be a long cold winter for the Ukrainians
as Russia has hit over the weekend the power grid
with missiles and drones.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
I was actually woken this morning very series of bangs
somewhere near our hotel at about four o'clock in the morning,
and then there was there were more later sometime after seven.
People have been expecting it for some time.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
None of which is good for the kids.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Well, would do more, Christina Astress.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
They leave in a constant state of chess.

Speaker 8 (03:17):
Multifestis chess caused by a range of factors.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
They're exposed to.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
Sing cc and hear like a lamps explosions and they
feel it.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Told because we wakened at Trump headquarters that I've named
oil men, Chris Writers your energy. He'd went down a
treat at cops.

Speaker 9 (03:33):
It's gone down in climate circles as you would expect,
like a lead balloon. It has been described as disastrous.
He has said that there is no climate crisis, which
is not what the science tells us.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Also for Vick, who is on top of wastern inefficiency,
he's into it.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
The people we elect to run the government, they're not
the ones who actually run the government.

Speaker 10 (03:53):
It's the unelected bureaucrats in the administrative.

Speaker 11 (03:56):
State that was created through executive action.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's going to be fixed through executive acts.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
A couple of things in Britain. Firstly the downfall of
the Archbishop of Canterbury last week. Some regret more people
didn't speak out sooner.

Speaker 12 (04:05):
It's a great disappointment to me that when I called
for that publicly, I was indeed a lone voice. So
I have no real explanation for that, other than there
is a culture I think of silence and fear amongst
the bishops, which is really unhealthy.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And it will be a weaker protest from farmers over
text changes. The warm up was in Wales yesterday, but
the Transport secretary not for turning.

Speaker 13 (04:26):
None of us came into politics in order to leverage
tax on the farming community, but we were left with
a very difficult fiscal inheritance we'd put forward through security
really as a priority.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Sorry. Finally, research this morning reveals that just what animal
you thought about the so far? Just what animal would
rule the world if humans weren't around. Now this is
the work of Professor Tim Coulson at Oxford Nolis, so
we must take him seriously. Are you're saying apes of
courseing Aniel lapsing all the world nosis. Tim Timpsey has no.
He says he thinks it's octopus. Octopuses is the strongest

(05:01):
candidates who evolved to build civilization. That's based on the
fact that their intelligent can solve complex problems, communicate with
each other, could construct underwater communities resembling cities really, and
he thinks they could evolve to hunt on land as well.
Or I think you might be wrong or a nutter
That is News of the World and ninetieth UK Economy
to before mentioned by the way, I went backwards in
September and everyone went what what happened there? They expected

(05:22):
some growth of zero point two percent, which wasn't great
in the first place, but better than minus one backwards.
So for the quarter they went up just zero point
one percent, so hardly going gangbusters At the moment twelve
past six, the.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
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by news talks it be.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
So Britain not so good, but the Japanese Okay. Their
third quarter real gross domestic product came in at zero
point three so that snapped two straight quarters of year
on year to clients as they're seeing a little bit
of growth. Fifteen past six Management Monday, done and Gregg,
how are you great?

Speaker 14 (06:02):
Thanks morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Retail sales they're still out in America.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Yeah, pretty good. He has a more data point towards
a soft economic landing scenario, although the markets took a
breath on the post election rally. So US retail sales
are up zero point four percent in October, so that
was slightly more unexpected. Yeah, Americans appeared to be out
there spending on stuff, so driving the jump was sales.
Auto dealerships, electronics and appliant stores are both up around
two percent. Dining out that also picked up as the

(06:29):
doy spender as some of this is probably due to
rebuilding efficits and the areas devastated by the hurricanes. But
despite the election results that it's used to that many
are dissatisfied with their current position, the picture appears to
be one of resilients. So American household disppose they're built
up savings are probably encouraged by rising house prices and
also an employment market which is lower but still firm.

(06:50):
The Outbeat report also a company by sharp revision to
September's data, so grow for a double two point eight percent.
The numbers mike An adjusted for inflation, so it was
effect here potentially. And just on the same topic, a
separate report showed that important prices rose last month. And
I suppose they'll start getting another kick next year is
and when Trump starts pulling through those terriffs. But look
at all sort of reinforced probably what Jerome and Pelsey

(07:13):
the last week that the economy is not sending signals
that officials need to be in a hurry to lower rates.
So yeah, markets are now saying it's a fifty to
fifty core in December.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Okay, then we come to the Chinese how they go.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
So the retail sales numbers also out there are pretty
good actually, so it seduced that recent stumius mesias are
having an impact on parts of the economy. So an
eight month high, they grow grew by four point eight
percent annually. It was a full percent above forecasts. Up
on September. Home appliance sales are up thirty nine percent
competed the same period last year. That's the fastest growth

(07:45):
since twenty ten. Committic cosmetics spend that was also upsiddly,
but there was another data at might which was a
little bit more mixed. So the unimportant right that did
is to five percent, which is good, but industrial production
that was less than expected growth zero point three percent.
Fixed ASCID investment also low, and they've been obviously trying
to turn around the property market. They might need to

(08:06):
do a bit more so investment in real estate for
the January to October period that fell by over ten percent.
It's the sharpest decline since August twenty twenty one. Sales
of new properties that fell over twenty percent as well,
so they might need a few more initiatives ad to
what they've been doing. Obviously, they're also going to be
mindful the headwinds on the horizon next year. Obviously, Trump
plans sixty percent tariffs on most Chinese imports. Obviously they've

(08:29):
become an export powerhou powerhouse. Global exports around about four
trillion dollars, so I'm interesting to see how they respond.
And you talk of debt earlier. You also think the
US would be mindful that China's the second largest foreign
creditor to the US government after Japan, so they have
seven hundred and seventy five billion in treasuries and yeah.
At the APEC meeting over the weekend, present G made

(08:49):
his thoughts pretty clear, said increasing protectionism would send the
world backwards.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yes it is correct manufacturing and reading the commentary, they
seem to suggest, yes, it's down, but it might be
coming to an end. Are they being overtly optimistic here
or realistic?

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Maybe a little bit of optimism there, I think. So
you see parts of the economy doing okay, you know,
the dairy sector weeks, you can have a print this
week there, But yeah, the manufacturing sector is still facing
plenty of challenges. This is the ben Z Business us
on Performance and Manufacturing Index showed that the sector contracted
a faster rate during October and the report was actually
titled lost momentum. That was pretty appropriate. So the seasonally

(09:26):
adjusted pm I was forty five point eight, so anything
below fifty is contraction. That was down from forty seven September.
So the manufacturing sector has now been in contraction for
twenty consecutive months, and there was a bit of an
improvement recently, so they had people a little bit hopeful.
But I think this report's actually a big reality check.
Subn deeceas for production deliveries all dropped and people still

(09:48):
losing their jobs in the manufacturing sector. I mean, other
data shows it was over fourteen thousand in the last
quarter alone, so there was some brightness. New orders they
nudged up, but still in contraction territory. And if you
look at the survey, so you can take this two ways.
So negative comments from respondents has eased a bit to
fifty three point five percent, so half the manufacturing sector

(10:08):
is gloomy, and I suppose that is an improvement from
the three quarters in June. And that was before obviously
the albns had started cutting interest rates, so you might
we might need a few more of those to get
the benefacturing sector into more positive spirits.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Lay some numbers on me.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Yeah, So the Dow was down point seven percent forty
three four four four on Friday. The S and P
five hundred was down one point three cent five eight
seventy farmer stocks they are under pressure, of course, after
drump Trump to say he's named RFK Juniors as head
of used Department of Health, so so he's a vaccine skeptics.
So that was interesting. And there's that down two point
two percent foot seat down point one percent, Nikay up

(10:47):
point three percent, in Japan a SX two hundred ue
point seven percent. In the next fifty we were down
slightly down eight points twelve.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Six eight four.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Commodities gold down a dollar sixty two five sixty three
announced oiled down a dollar seventy seven spots are two
a barrel. And the currency markets against the US dollar
q is fifty eight point seven that was up slightly,
Against the Australian dollar ninety point eight that was up
slightly as well against pound sterling forty six point five
that was up point six percent this week plenty hon

(11:15):
as usual go UK and Japan inflation data. We've got
results in Walmart in the video. In the US, we've
gotten they came to New Zealand service sector data, Dairry Auction.
We've got four year results in Apa Paul and we've
got some agms Fonterra the warehouse and a.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Two oaul good stuff Make go Weld catch up soon.
Greg Smith, Dibbon Funds Management, Basking. By the way, they
sold a gold pocket watch over the weekend. It was
given to the British boat captain who rescued more than
seven hundred passengers from the Titanic, and that's why it
went for such a price. Eighteen carrot, Tiffany and co.
Given to Sir Arthur Rostron, who was the captain of
the passenger Rims Capathia. This is nineteen twelve highest price

(11:52):
ever paid for Titanic memorabilia. How much three point three
six million dollars six ere News Talks.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
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Speaker 2 (12:10):
Talks it B by the way I open the program
on the broad subject of debt. Very good piece in
the paper this morning by Cameron Smith, who's the online
business editor Black Friday and Buy Now, Pay Later, Dark
reality of taking on Christmas debt. We are a nation
in debt. Look that bet up, We are a nation
in debt. They're quoting a woman called Sasha Lockley, who's
the CEO of a thing called money sweet Spot. Debt

(12:31):
becomes more like a rent payment that people get so
used to paying they don't focus on getting rid of
the repayment. She makes a very good point. You can
read that this morning six twenty five.

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Speaker 2 (12:44):
Now, Alec Baldwin back on Saturday Night Live. Over the weekend,
he got infamous, of course, for his portrayal of Trump.
This week we got a couple of blokes, not Baldwin,
playing out the Trump Biden meeting even though we disagree.

Speaker 11 (12:55):
I'm eager to sit down for a respectful conversation. Yeah,
and get a load of me. Instead of being rude
and crazy like usual, I'm doing quiet and serene, which
in any ways is a lot scarier. It's all about
surrounding yourself with the best people, and I am very
fastly picking the most epic.

Speaker 15 (13:13):
Cabinet of all time.

Speaker 11 (13:15):
There's some of the most dynamic, prethinking, animal killing, sexually criminal.

Speaker 16 (13:20):
Medically crazy people in the country.

Speaker 17 (13:22):
Who are you thinking about.

Speaker 11 (13:24):
Well, we've got Elon and Matt Gates. That's an alien
versus predator.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Then incomes Baldwin as.

Speaker 16 (13:35):
Hey, I don't mean to interrupt you.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I just wanted to tell you again, I'm so honored
to be the head of the Health and Human Services Department.
Americans need someone to teach them how to be healthy,
someone like me, a seventy year old man with movie
star looks in a worm in his brain.

Speaker 16 (13:57):
I love you.

Speaker 11 (13:58):
I can't wait to see what you do with this guy?

Speaker 14 (14:00):
Drink right, I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I got a dead dolphin in my car.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I think of my start and hal and dumping in
central part.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
It's easy material, of course, isn't it. Jake Paul Mike Tyson.
The standout thing for me about the first of all,
it was the biggest more than seventy thousand people in attendance,
bought in almost eighteen million in revenue from ticket sales alone,
the biggest gate outside of Vegas. So you can't argue
with its success. And that's before you get to the

(14:29):
business of sixty million households around the world actually paid
money for it. At its peak, it was sixty five
million concurrent streams, so very successful. The question then is
the reportage. Why did you think it was going to
be anything other than what it was. It never ceases
to amaze me that you know, Mike Tyson and an
internet guy as a boxing match, and then you go, oh,

(14:53):
that wasn't really a boxing match, was it? What happened?
How can you possibly be surprised at what that was?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like my costing breakfast with Veda retirement communities, Life Your Ways.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
From Doolio, who are the world's largest olive oil producers,
one of the most their words not mine. One of
the most challenging moments in the industry's history appears to
be drawing to a close. In other words, the prices
are starting to come down. We all know the price
of chocolate and the price of olive oil have been ruinous.
So they've had weather problems of course in southern Europe,
but the prices are now down. Not only are they

(15:32):
down there seeing a much better harvest and anticipating much
better harvest than twenty four to twenty five, particularly in Spain,
Greece and Tunisia. So presumably next time you shop for
a bottle it'll be better news. Twenty three minutes away
from seven point, the top team continues to unfold and
the angst continues to grow. Richard Arnold's Stateside for you
shortly meantime, a little bit of chatter around churches at

(15:53):
the moment in the old property market. When churches, old
churches come up for sale, they are hot property, no
pun and tender. But there are fushe surely they're officials,
are they? One roof for editor Owen Vaughan is with
us on all of this. Owen mourning to you morning.
There's a couple of things I would think as a
property enthusiast myself. One is a church versus something that
has been converted and was once a church but is

(16:15):
now at home. They two completely different things, aren't they.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Yeah, they're they're They're completely different things than not books.
The ones that are renovated and converted. Obviously, if you're
buying one of those, you've got one that's already ready made.
If you're buying a church that has not been converted,
you're going to be facing wealth a very kind testing

(16:41):
time trying to get that renovation through, that conversion through.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
So there are rules and regulations around conversion or not.
Is it just like eating out building? As long as
you do it right, you do it right.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Well, it depends on what you're buying. Most of these
buildings that are for sale that are being deconsecrated, but
you're talking about old buildings, they're you know, got their
own peculiarities. And I think, look, if you're if you
think renovating a living space or a kitchen or a bathroom,

(17:13):
that's challenging. Try doing that to need. They're big, cavernous spaces,
so you you've got to have a lot of faith
when you take on these projects.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Do these I mean obviously they tracked for people like
you at one roof. They'll attract a lot of attention
because they're quirky. Are they a real prospect for some people?
In other words, is they're an actual market then.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, Look they're they're they're quite popular. I mean, look,
they're a bit like marmite. I mean some people think
they're hiddenly, some people think they're a bit creaky. But
for those who love them, and there are, there are plenty.

Speaker 18 (17:50):
Of people out there.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
They they love living them. There's people out there that
can put them on Airbnb and they're they're very popular.
Or so the idea of living in a place that
used to be an altar or somewhere where their stained
glass windows and a sense of reverence around it. That
there's there's always going to be a market for that.

(18:14):
In terms of the people who buy them, We've seen
former all blacks buy churches and convert them. There's a
Xavier rush in Wales bot one and a couple of
years ago he sold it for just under a million pounds,
so there is a there is a market there. And
just last month we had an Aussie buyer who came

(18:37):
into uh Gore and was desperate to buy a church
that had been on the market and he'd lost out
six months previously, So there is demand there.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Fantastic. I'm reading this morning in one roop by the way,
first time buys a back and what we'll not back.
They're increasing their share and also invests a rap as well,
so we sing the market move here or not.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, Look, there's certainly a lot more interest in the market.
Obviously interest rates tumbling. That's been a help. But there's
still a sense that prices are contained. I know if
you look at the option results. While there's a lot
of people bidding, and you know the number of bidders
are up well up on six months ago, the prices

(19:19):
are still restrained levels.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Good stuff owned us to talk to. You appreciate it
very much. Go well. Owen Vaughn, one roof editor with
us this morning. I've got a little housing story letter
on my own. Actually, funnily enough, over the weekend, ninety
minutes away from seven I mentioned farming is going to
be an issue. The farmers are furious in Britain. It's
got to do with inheritance tax. It comes out of
the budget. Used to be able to hand down your
farm to the next generation. Now you will still be

(19:42):
able to do that, but they'll text you at least
twenty percent of it. The big protest is coming I
think Thursday. From memory the word is Jeremy Clarkson's one
leading it in two speaking, so that'll attract extra attention.
But they started in Wales yesterday and so how the
labor government again to handle that is interesting. But more
than that later eighteen minutes away from seven Richard next.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
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Speaker 2 (20:11):
If you want tickets to Glastonbury next year, I've got
bad news. They sold out. Opened at nine o'clock last
night online queue this was and nine thirty five, thirty
five minutes later they're all gone. Tickets are seven hundred
and fifty ish dollars twenty five through twenty nine of
due next year. Maybe the fact they're taking a year
off in twenty twenty six had something to do with it.
You could get a maximum of six tickets per person

(20:32):
you don't have to pay. I didn't realize this. You
don't have to pay for a while. In fact, you
don't have to pay until April of next year. And if,
in fact, having got the tickets, you don't pay, they
all go back onto the open market and the irony hearers.
They haven't even announced the artist. You've got no idea
who's going to be there?

Speaker 19 (20:47):
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Peace of mind for New Zealand business, Right.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Tha't Ti Richard on the morning for you? They are
flowing thick and fast these appointments, aren't they?

Speaker 20 (21:00):
They certainly are. And the President elect knows how to
get the headlines, no doubt about that either. Trump is
rolling out these names in rapid fire. For the cabinet
picks with an oil industry executive, Climate de Nia, Chris
Right as Energy Secretary, and Rak Junior for Health and
Human Services the other day. Still it is the choice
of Matt Gates for Attorney General, the chief justice officer

(21:21):
of the country that still is drawing the most flat. Gates,
of course, quit the Congress last week, just two days
before there was to be a vote on whether an
ethics committee investigation should be released into those accusations that
Gates had sex with a seventeen year old high school
girl who attended one of these supposed sex and drug
parties at Gates is said to have taken part in.
Speaker Mike Johnson says he wasn't sure if that report

(21:43):
should be given over to Senators who are called on
to have confirmation hearings for the Attorney General's role. Then
the Speaker went off for dinner at Trump's Mara Lago
resort and came back surprise with exactly the opposite point
of view.

Speaker 16 (21:57):
Sext for tradition and.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Not release the report.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Reformer member of the House because it would open a
dangerous pendora's block.

Speaker 20 (22:03):
Keep it all secret, says to speaker. At least a
current speaker who got the job. Of course, after a fool.
The speaker was ousted in a campaign led by the
aforementioned Matt Gates. Kevin McCarthy says.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Give you the truth why I'm not Speaker.

Speaker 21 (22:15):
It's because one person, a member of Congress, wanted me
to stop an ethics complaint because he slept with a
seventeen year old.

Speaker 20 (22:21):
Well, some of the details are starting to come out
despite all of the political maneuvering Congressman Tony Gonzalez, Senator
Mark Wwayn Mullen, and Fox News commentator Dagan McDowell on Gates,
all of them Republicans say in.

Speaker 18 (22:36):
Part this, I served with some real scumbacks.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Look, Matt Gates, he paid miners to have sex with
them at drug parties.

Speaker 22 (22:44):
We had all seen the videos he was showing on
the house floor that all of us had walked away.
Of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag
about how he would crush ed medicine and chase it
with with an energy drink so he could go all night.

Speaker 23 (22:59):
I would come him to that toddler that we've all
seen at the family barbecue in toilet paper, what shoven
shoving cheerios up his nose?

Speaker 20 (23:09):
Well, there's a raged opinion for you from Mary's esteem
for Bacoldic's meantime, ABC News here is reporting that the
seventeen year old is telling her story to some others
outside the political world. She's known in a twenty cent
for multiple days, multiple days of testibudy before the ethics panel.
So I would guess there's a lot more it's going

(23:30):
to emerge now since last week R F. Kennedy Junior
has been chosen for Health Secretary. He is, of course,
a prominent anti vaxer Trump aide Howard Lutnik, whom Elon
Musk now is pushing to have the Treasury roll. Was
us on CNN the other day if there was any chance,
any chance of Kennedy being chosen as Health secretary? Of course,
Dotty said, laughing when apparently he meant you know.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Of course.

Speaker 20 (23:53):
RFK has a colorful history, including dumping the bear carcass
in Central Park and Zone. Kennedy believes Charlie what vaccines
can cause autism. He's pledged to remove fluoride from drinking water.
Well Pete Hegsinth, the Trump peak for Defense secretary, has
been found to have paid a settlement to a woman
who accused him of sexual assault. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen
says he is, for the moment a supporter of the

(24:15):
Fox News former morning show. On the weekend's co host,
He says of the situation that he's facing now.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
But as of right now, I start with yes. But
can I be moved off of that?

Speaker 8 (24:26):
I'm sure.

Speaker 20 (24:28):
So here's a solid endorsement for you.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
And then we come to a man who, as far
as we know, doesn't have a new job, but he's
got a pile of trouble. This is Al Rudy.

Speaker 20 (24:36):
Big pile of trouble, once known as America's Mayor, New
York Mayor Rudy New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, has hit bottom.
He's just been required to hand over to two volunteer
election workers from twenty twenty, Ruby Freeman and Say Moss,
some of his personal property on a court order that
includes his shares in his Upper east Side apartment in
New York City, a blue Mercedes convertible once owned by

(24:58):
Lauren Becall that he'd been and some luxury watches, including
one owned by his grandfather. The court ordered him to
pay in all one hundred and fifty million dollars US.
So let me see that means he still owes about
one hundred and forty eight million.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
See Wednesday, Richard Arnold state. So, by the way, as
I alluded to Ryan earlier on well Worth, having get
access to the Sydney Morning Herald Trump won headline Trump won,
the celebration started, then the trouble began. It's very good,
but it's got eighteen people who don't want to be
named for obvious reasons, but they're inside Mary Lago at
the moment. As I mentioned last week, they're sick of Elon.

(25:33):
This is within the Trump camp. They're sick and tired
of Elon, who's crazy, crazier than the rest of them.
But the eighteen people speaking on anonymity or under anonymity,
their main concern is Gates. Their claim is that the
campaign itself was well run. It was slicker than last time,
noticeably slicker than last time, run by better people. But

(25:54):
the moment they won, Trump went nuts and he starts
firing off names left, right and center, one of which
is Gates. And the problem is one of the people
quoted here says they cannot name more than twenty Senators
who would even think of voting for Gates, so that
nomination's dead in the water because they argue that some
senators still take their job seriously. But it's a good piece,

(26:14):
well worth looking up if you've got time. Nine to
seven The.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Community News Toms
tad B.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Can we bad not first poll out for her? In
the UK? As Tory leader. This is for the opinion
poll for the Observer. Net approval rating is not good.
I'm afraid it's worse. She hasn't done anything. I think
it's unfair to judge somebody who's barely been in the
job about three and a half days. But there you go.
That's polls for you, worse than Rishie Sunac and Boris Johnson.
At the same time, net approval rating is minus five.
That's the difference between the positive and the negative. So

(26:44):
net approval rating is minus five. And as in the
American vernacular, she's underwater. The only former party leader of
the past five years that she beats in terms of
starting popularity is Liz Trust who was famously unpopular, so
famous she barely lasted a week. By the way, speaking
of Britain and COP, how many delegates from Britain have

(27:08):
been at COP How many would you say? Four hundred
and seventy? If you did, you would be correct. You
can't make that stuff up. Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Well, the ins and the ouse, it's the fizz with
business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Now Here is a little insight. The idea of supporting
local is a bit of a problem in this country.
Has always been a bit of a problem. We say
the right things, but we don't do the right things.
We're talking about buying stuff consumers and new consumer analysis
using the A and Z card transactions, it shows that
we're looking increasingly at online shopping. We love TMU, we
love Shine, we love Amazon. We want to save the world,

(27:46):
of course, and we hate slave labor, and we don't
like cheap plastic crape and we don't want anything to
do with that apart from when we're shopping because we
can't get enough of it on TMU, Shine and Amazon.
Our spending on online international retailers has increased fifty three
percent in the last year. We now spend more than
eighty million dollars every month on online shopping. Compare that

(28:09):
to local and New Zealand based retailers. While online shopping
sales dropped ten percent last year, so locally down ten percent,
internationally up fifty three percent. We currently spent about forty
million a month on New Zealand retailers online and that
number has been and continues to trend the wrong way.
Now what that has meant, though, is you might be
seeing a little shift in the marketplace because in August

(28:29):
alone online there were two hundred and forty one new
retail businesses starting up in New Zealand. Sixty three started
up in the transport, postal and warehousing sector purely to
buy products from international retailers to then on sell them
to New Zealand customers. So they're obviously backing them. So
I don't know what the rationale behind that is. Can

(28:51):
they clip the ticket in a way that you won't go,
We'll hold on, I can buy that director a lot less.
Or do they bring in stuff that you couldn't have
searched up yourself, or are they you know who know
whatever it is, but they see a gap. They see
a gap. By the way. The interesting thing over the
weekend on the war, and this is going to be
increasingly a focus of conversation, one because of the weekend
and the drone attacks and so on and so forth.

(29:12):
But one you've got the German leader Schultz, he's on
the phone for the first time to put him. Zolensky
blows his lid, and rightly so. Secondly, Zolensky then goes,
I think the war's going to end sooner because of
Trump which is quite possibly true. But I'm assuming Zelensky
knows how the war's going to end under Trump, and

(29:33):
that would be him. That bit on the right hand
side of the map is no longer his, and then
there'll be a sort of a demilitarized zone. In other words,
they will have spent several years for nothing, and I'm
assuming Zelensky's cognizant of that. Anyway, News for you and
a couple of moments here at News.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Talk Ze.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
The Breakfast Show you can trust the Mike Hosking Breakfast
with the range Rover, the line designed to intrigue and
use togs.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
There'd be morning. In seven past seven, more insight into
our health spending contractor and consultant work has gone up.
We have an extra eighty five million dollars spent in
the past financial year to June. That's despite the government directive,
of course, to cut back Health New Zealand Chief Clinical Officer,
doctor Richard Sullivan's with us. Richard, very good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (30:18):
Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is eighty five million something to hanging them, But I
suppose it's a lot of money for most of us.
But when you're dealing with a thirty billion dollar behemoth.
There's eighty five million something to raise the eyebrows.

Speaker 24 (30:29):
Look like.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
I think there was probably seased forth the spent day.
This is textplayer's money. But the reality behind it eighty
five million is that the bulk of that is actually
in our chronical workforce trying to cover our rosters and
the vacancies. So they're real focus sometimes a clinical care
to our communities.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
So when we talk about consultants, we think the worst.
So these are people who are actually doing real work, needed,
real work, and it is what it is.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
Yeah, I'll go sorry, break down, And as you say,
contract is a consultants, so that the contractors, that's really
that people are doing the real work. Four eighty five
percent of that spenders on people doing the real work consultants.
You know, we do need specialist advice particular areas, and
so we have a spend on that. On that spend
actually dropped by sixty percent in the last quarter. So

(31:20):
we better really focus on trying to wind that back
while flicting on little in clinical frontline.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Here, would you argue you are saving money to the
extent that under a specific line item like contractors and consultants,
the cost is up but if you employed people full time,
you'd find that it was even more expensible. We can't
say that, No, we.

Speaker 8 (31:39):
Can't say that, Mike. It's a great question. In fact,
we would prefer to have more per staff. It's a
brief challenging space, particularly with our senior medical doctors with
an international I'm short to the boss the play. So
you know, we would prefer to have bin stuff areas
like rural medicine, societry to net. You know, we would

(31:59):
prefer that to bring out people permanently and that Maine
vowel save those in the long term.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But that is the reality of that art at the
moment do and when you say, at the moment, will
you ever solve things like rural medicine or mental health
or any of those long term ongoing challenges.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
That's a great question as well. I'm not sure we'll
ever solve it. But you know, like all things you've
put real folkuss you look at different models, the way
to live services, you know, different workforces. So I think
we can improve our mental health services, our rural medicine
services by just putting out real focus on that area.
But as you say, well, it save a lot of

(32:37):
money it's hard to know, but we would prefer people
the afflicted.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Are you across what Lester Levy is doing? Are you
at that end of the spectrum? And as chief clinical
officer in the sense when I ask the very broad
question is he saving money? And are we heading in
the right direction? You can give me an answer or not.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
So you very much hum across. In fact, at long
chat with aised yesterday, we keep in touch with Chilly
and that focus on you know, don't go workforce, improving
a clinical care, our safety and I guess that real
drive around x USA to really sure that actributes can
get better access. And yes, it's a definite focus on

(33:17):
trying to make this financially sustainable, looking at opportunities, you know,
where we can try and reduce some of those senses.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
All right, appreciate your time. Richard Richards Sullivan, Doctor Richard Sullivan,
who's the Health New Zealand Chief Clinical Officer. Ten minutes
past seven, Pascal, So what had done today? Picked Well,
our PM had a face to face of course with
China's leaders, so that was a big deal. A little
bit of glad handing there. I think they got stuck
on walls. No, and we really wanted to talk much
about the wars or do anything about them. Anyway. Our
political leader, to Jason Wolves, has just a ride back

(33:44):
in the country. Jason morning, good morning, make and you're
on the seven five to seven.

Speaker 15 (33:49):
No, no, no.

Speaker 25 (33:50):
We took a commercial flight, this time with the lat
Ham Airlines to Chile and then to Lima.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I was desperate to give the seven five seven some
good raps, given it's been going so well so lately.
How's by the way, as neilne the way?

Speaker 15 (34:01):
All right, Oh, it's fine.

Speaker 25 (34:03):
I mean I can complain about the fact that my
headset didn't work very well on the way over there,
but I should probably just be telling you that instead
of watching movies, I was working very hard on my stories,
so that probably.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Was for the best.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Then, Okay, so some McLay would wall sustainable exports. Was
that to be any I mean, what the hell happened?
Did anything happen at all out outside the gu meeting? No?

Speaker 25 (34:22):
I mean that was the set piece and the main
thing about it. I mean you can look at some
of the more what politicians like to call announceables and
say that there was some sort of deal with Iceland
and a couple of other countries that were signed by McLay.
But the main thing about APEX for a small country
like New Zealand is really just having some face time.
I mean, you need to be at these meetings because
it's basically the only way that small countries like New

(34:42):
Zealand can meet up and have face to face meetings
with leaders like Shu jing Ping. I mean it's a
bit of an opportunity cost because if we weren't there,
everybody would be asking, well, why the hell not. So
it's actually good to have the FaceTime and sit down
because on an international stage, you know, New Zealand is
seen as nice but not particularly relevant a lot of
the times, so it needs the Prime Minister to be
there to let people know how we can be relevant.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And she seemed bullish, didn't he. I mean, he had
nice words to say about us, which is something I guess,
mind you, he'll be backing that up against Trump of
course at the moment.

Speaker 25 (35:11):
Indeed, I mean they always do have nice words to
say to each other in the before the bilateral meeting
and the opening comments, and then the robber really hits
the road afterwards when it comes to the actual meetings.

Speaker 15 (35:21):
Themselves.

Speaker 25 (35:21):
Most people will be surprised to learn they're only about
twenty twenty five minutes long when you get into them.
But the Prime Minister, Chris Luckson said that China did
actually raise its concerns with New Zealand wanting to or
looking into joining the orchest Pillar two pact and just
saying basically seeing that I was lining up closer with
the US in the Pacific Islands, which China we're very

(35:41):
not happy about.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Any chat about this Chinese port in Peru in the
opening of that three and a half billion dollars. There's
a lot of port and a lot of influence in
that part of the world.

Speaker 25 (35:50):
Well, I mean China are everywhere. I mean at every hotel,
Chinese TV were playing the China Daily newspaper around, There's
Chinese flags every whay everywhere. It's basically there's a lot
of Chinatown activity happening in Lima because they, i mean,
they've given so much money to eate the hosting of
APEX and be this sort of China soft power approach
to many countries around the world by just injecting money

(36:11):
into them, and that's sort of their way of sidling
up and becoming friends. So everywhere you go you see China.
I mean I was in Chogham in Samoa a couple
of weeks ago and it was the same sort of
situation there. In fact, at one point a Chogham's sign
has kind of fell down slightly and behind it there
was a brand for a Chinese company that were building
a whole bunch of stuff in Samoa. So it's literally

(36:32):
everywhere around the world that you go at this point
in time.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
So what's the story for the day, Jason? You're going
to die and lieu for the extra time? You're going
straight to the office. What's going on here?

Speaker 25 (36:41):
Oh, I'm heading back now as I'm an awkward airport,
and then I've got a couple of crosses lined up
before having a bit of a nap tomorrow before going
back to parliam And because I can't miss the hicaway, Mic.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Really I can, but mind you're employed too, Cavert. Nice
to see you, mate, Jason Walls and News talking to
Popolitic a lit at the fourteen parts past the port
and Peru's worth looking up and reading about three and
a half billion, and it's run by the Chinese. The
trucks that unload. The ships are the driverlest trucks made

(37:11):
by the Chinese. The cranes are the driver list cranes
made by the Chinese. You can see where it's going.
Fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
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Speaker 2 (37:26):
B David Seymour on you Know What. Actually the reason
we got David Seymour on this morning there's a couple
of issues being raised about applications for charter schools, and
we'll deal with that and then we'll get onto the
you Know What. Seventeen minutes past seven bit about grove
over the weekend around taxis and fairs being ripped off.
So person jumps into cab post coldplay gets charged one
hundred and sixty dollars apparently for a ten k trip.

(37:48):
The company in question is a place called Crown Cabs.
Apparently they've got a reputation. Multiple complaints have been made
over the Small Passenger Service Association Executive director Warren quirkers
with us. Warren, very good morning to you. To mind
these are these ubers as cabs as opposed to ubers.

Speaker 24 (38:03):
Well be what we have now following the amendments of
the Land transport that in twenty seventeen. As three types
of providers of the service. You have your traditional taxes
who were affiliated to taxi companies, the ripptable brands that
you see. You have the ride share element of course
at ubers and the light, and then you have what

(38:24):
we call independent taxi operators. Some of these independents you
are basing forth between the ride share platforms and driving
as independents.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So the problem would be you're coming out of coldplay,
you're desperate for a cab. One guy in a very
old Japanese import comes by, happens to be an independent operator.
You drop in the back. Next time you next thing
you know it t one hundred and sixty bucks. Is
that how that works?

Speaker 24 (38:47):
Well, that's how it does work, and it's not how
it's supposed to work. So the rule around placing now
is that the fears should be agreed to prior to
the trip to mensin and this is what we're fined
us not and the most tastes like this and in
other tases, then what we're seeing now is an intressive

(39:09):
tats and mertas or phone app mets. What's a st
at extraordinary high prices.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
A that was my next question. If you if you
get into a cab and and you don't check, of
course because no one does. But if it's set at
you know, six hundred dollars a kilometer and that's a
set rate, and you'r you didn't check it, then that
is that on you or not?

Speaker 24 (39:31):
As long as it's advertised, as long as there is
a first schedule in the in the tatsuit, that is
quite leisure to operate like that. And this is where
we believe a legislation is a native which at the moments.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Amount us need to tie it up. War I appreciate
time very much. Warren Quirk Wher's these small passenger Small
Passengers Service Association executive director, who knew we had a
small passenger services?

Speaker 16 (39:54):
You reckon? I classify as a small passenger or a
medium sized one or a large one largish?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah? The can I just tell you just the best
story of the weekend. Matt Heath, who came on this
program last Thursday, did the Coldplay review. Speaking of Coldplay anyway,
I guess who was listening to the Coldplay review on
the show, Chris Martin. Chris Martin, here is the so
I am told Chris Martin heres the review, thinks it's

(40:20):
such a cool review, and Matt Heath is such a
nice person. He gets in contact, well he doesn't obviously,
he doesn't do anything, but he gets other people to
contact him for Matt Heath gets invited back to the
Saturday night show. Not only back to the Saturday Night show,
he gets backstage to meet Chris Martin and the band,
hang out with the band the whole time. Do the
hands and hands up the whole thing? Because he was

(40:42):
on me.

Speaker 16 (40:43):
I feel like there were two elite well at least
two ingredients to the interview. It wasn't just Matt Heath.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Correct funny ah, Like, where was I Saturday Night? Was
I hands and hands up with Coldplay?

Speaker 15 (40:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
It wasn't it?

Speaker 16 (40:53):
Yeah, And I had to make sure that the button
was on.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Were you and hands and hands up? Coldplay? Now you won't.
Heath was nobody till he came to the station.

Speaker 16 (41:04):
Sam's wanting to have a word that we have.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Heath was no one. He was downstairs at some retrospective
music station. We give him a break. He's on the show.
Next thing, He's hanging out with Chris Martin. How's that work?
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In the past week, we've been dealing with three houses
right currently for sale. They are what you would loosely
call high end houses. And as you wander around with
the agent, the usual exchanges take place about size and

(42:32):
quality and renovations in street and area, and talk about
the market, what's the Bible, that sort of stuff. But
the question we always ask is this, why are they selling?
You asked that for a clue. Are they downsizing? What's changed?
Have they been there their whole lives? Have they transferred?
The three houses all had the same reason, they're leaving
the country. This was not good because, as I expressed

(42:53):
on the program last week, I'm finding the immigration figures depressing.
I read over the weekend that suddenly universities in Australia
are closing their books for into nationals because they are
inundated our universities and undated with internationals, so they are
not I read that the Albanezi government is under pressure
on immigration because they promise to curb it. They haven't
curbed it. One of the major reasons they haven't curbed.
It is because shedloads of US are bailing from New

(43:15):
Zealand and arriving at their place, and given ceer in
our relationship, there's nothing they can do about that. In
the case of the three houses, one have their kids
already ensconced in Australia. They want to join them, and
the parents are looking to join them as soon as
they possibly can, as soon as they sell the house.
The other two families they're off to Europe. Good news
for the agents, of course, because all three houses their
nice houses, so they'll eventually sell. The issue after that

(43:36):
is who buys them. Our immigration figures will be a
discussion of some angst to mark my words sometime I
think next year, because as things stand there is no
sign of the departures easing, but there is a very
real sign of the arrival stalling. The arrivals are mainly
from India, Fiji, Indonesia and China. Culturally, the face of
New Zealand is changing dramatically, and as we learned last week,

(43:58):
a bit over not much of one percent of those
arriving applied for skills visas to come into the country,
just a bit over one percent. The rest presumably a
baristas and chefs and construction workers. The demise of this
country is alarmingly real. Most haven't woken up to it yet.
The government knows the problem and they're working hard to
at worst stall it, hopefully to reverse it. But as

(44:19):
we've said on this program for years, numbers don't lie.
And I can show you three houses for sale right
now that tell you the trend is real. Cosking sister
in laws and Queenstown. Over the weekend a daughter was
running the marathon. So if you were part of that,
I hope you had a good time. She was charged,
my sister in law. Of the reason I'm telling the story.
She was charged eighty two dollars to go five k's

(44:41):
in the cabin Queenstown. So it might have been busy
and he would know. But I can tell you having
gone from the airport to Queenstown, it's not eighty two
dollars or anywhere close to it. David Seymour, we've got
some issues around the charter schools. I think there's just
a simple thing that we can explain to sort it out.
There's a complain from one of the people who applied.

(45:01):
They applied four times and the Ministry came back when
the agency came back and said pick one, not four.
I think it's a simple supply demand situation because the
funds are limited and there are more people who want
to be charter schools than there are or is money
for charter schools, and I think we can sort that up.
But obviously we need to get to Seymore and the protest.
He will be with us after the news, which is

(45:22):
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Speaker 2 (45:34):
Lad in the comment grew bukes after opening on Monday
morning meantime at twenty three to eight. Some concerns around
the process of charter schools. One of the applicants, a
company called Education seventeen plus, made four submissions, but the
agency set up the process and told them to pick one.
These suggestion is that a the p is a spread
of schools across the country is being prioritized over the
best applicants. The Associate Education Minister is of course they

(45:56):
did Seymore, who was with us good Morning.

Speaker 20 (45:57):
Good lighting.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
May so the concern come from Olwen Pool, who of
course as a season campaigner in the wonderful world of
charter schools? Does he have a point?

Speaker 17 (46:07):
No, he doesn't. The only point that is valid is
that there were seventy eight applications and in the budget
we only have money for fifteen. So there were always
going to be people who were disappointed, particularly people who
had some very good applications. I'm not saying whether Elwyn
Pool's was one of those, but it's certainly true that

(46:29):
some people with good applications are going to be missed
out this time and maybe have to apply next time
to get the kind of charter schools or the number
of charter schools we'd all like.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Did he misunderstand the rules of engagement? In other words,
he applied four times, presumably because he knows what he's doing.
He might well have had four good applications. The money
is simply not there the supply. The demand outstripped the supply.

Speaker 17 (46:53):
It's as simple as that. I mean, for all the
people that say that we don't need charter schools, there's
seventy eight different applications to have them. They are of
pretty vary in quality. I look at Old and Paul,
he's certainly run charter schools in the past, he's running
an independent school. He did all of those as a
husband and wife team with his former wife. When he

(47:16):
was doing it with her, I thought the applications and
the schools were very, very impressive.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Okay, So is there a possibility that the demand will
meet the supply eventually if things go well?

Speaker 18 (47:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (47:28):
I think as people see these charter schools work, and
as they become a more normal part of New Zealand,
I think you'll see more existing state schools convert and
you'll see a lot more of them. But you know,
we're in a situation where the government's budget's not great.
Opening new ones, at least initially, does cost a little
bit more money, and so we've rationed that at fifteen

(47:50):
new ones and thirty five conversions. Most of the applications
we've had have being for new ones. So it's simply
a matter off. Not everyone can be a winner. Some
people are going to be.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Disappointed and cannot talk to you without the obvious this
coming week, where are you at with meeting these people?

Speaker 10 (48:08):
Well?

Speaker 17 (48:09):
I was pretty open minded and said, look, I'll meet
these guys. I mean, why wouldn't I talk to them?
I said, that we should have a conversation about the treaty.
At two points, becomes increasingly clear that with this guy
are cut the kingy. He's actually the son of a
Maori Party MP, stood for the Maori Party as a candidate,
and at least until recently and possibly now was a

(48:31):
staffer on the Maori Party's parliamentary role. It's quite possible
that he still is and has been doing this whole
thing on the taxpayer. So this is a Maori Party initiative.
It's not as much of a spontaneous uprising as people
would like them to think. This equally, and second of all,
after the behavior of Ti Party Mari in Parliament, I'm

(48:56):
having second thoughts about whether there's a lot to be
gained around a compass here. So I stay open minded,
but I'm less keen than I was a week ago.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Is this one of these problems?

Speaker 19 (49:06):
Though?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Because never the twain shall meet having watched what happened
to it, it doesn't matter what you say, and from
their point of view, it doesn't matter what they say either.
I mean, you're never going to meet in the middle
or anywhere close to it. Hence the division is there
more trouble than it's worth.

Speaker 17 (49:22):
I think it's really important to differentiate tap Party Maori
from Mauri spokespeople, Maori representatives, mighty people. Frankly, you know
there's seven of us in the cabinets of the current government.
On the other hand, to Party Maori, I would say
representing and bringing up the worst in mary theom And

(49:42):
what worries me is that there'll be a lot of
people in New Zealand who believe that Party Mahori speak
for all Marii. They certainly don't. They don't speak for me.
There's a lot of people saying that what they did
in Parliament last week it's not just a national but
international embarrassment. And frankly, I think we've got to start
recognizing that this is a minority, not a minority as

(50:05):
in mari a minority within Marydom that is giving everybody
a bad name. And it's their behavior that I don't
want to meet with, happy to meet with anyone else.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Right, So when Chris fin Lason says it's on you,
and when Jenny Shipley, I thought it was extraordinary, but
she said you're inviting civil war.

Speaker 17 (50:28):
What do you say, Well, I think, Jenny Shipley, it
sounds like she took about as much care on those
comments as she took on reviewing the accounts when she's
a director at Mainzie. Quite frankly, I just don't know
why she would say that. It is grossly irresponsible, especially
for a former Prime minister. And as for Christine Listen,

(50:51):
he's showing the kind of haughtiness and business that is
unbecoming of someone who's had their time as a politician
and should really be proud of their achievements and ready
to move on. But the real truth of both those
two is that great relations today are very much a
product of the influence that they've had in the last

(51:11):
twenty years. If people believe there's division, it hasn't been
created by my bill. It's been revealed by my bill,
because my bill calls for equal rights for New Zealanders,
and what we've seen is that there are a lot
of people who don't want equal rights. They want a
society where some people are tongue to Fenoa or Land people,

(51:32):
and others are tongue to Taditi. Jenny Shipley and Chris
Finlinson have fostered that belief that New Zealand is actually
a partnership between two collectives, which in turn are defined
by ancestry. It's never worked anywhere in the world. It's
not working here. I'm challenging that in saying New Zealand

(51:55):
should be a society with a treaty that based on
a treaty that gave us an RTI kato tai or
the same rights and duties. If they don't like that,
then let's find that they have to take some responsibility
for their role in creating today's reality.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Appreciate your time, David Seymour, Associate Education Minister, and of
course true your principles, Bill Minister. I suppose you call
them seventeen away from eight.

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Speaker 2 (52:28):
It'd be Mike Love You Show. Add my house to
the list. It goes to auction this Wednesday, flying out
to Australia December nineteen. Unfortunately, Mike, New Zealand's on the
way to third World, losing First World immigrants being replaced
by third world immigrants. Next time, I've got to get
Erica Stanford back on the program and on something completely
different actually, and I'll come to that in just a
couple of moments came to my attention out of Australia

(52:49):
over the weekend, but directly linked to the abuse and
care inquiry. But that is it. My need to talk
to Erica about this business. At one point something percent,
I've skilled visas as something seriously not working there, Mike,
you get a lot of this every time he's on.
Thank God for David seymore Chris Lux and Jenny Shipley
and finless and a cowardly to not address this important
treaty issue morning, Mike. Sometimes I think Seymour is the

(53:09):
only sensible politician in New Zealand. Mike Spott spot on Seymour, Mike,
David Seymore so well spoken and considered as usual. Certainly
he can hold his head high. You certainly got the
moral high ground on this so far as far as
I can work out. As for Jenny Shipley suggesting it's
inviting civil war, that's probably the most extraordinary thing I've

(53:30):
heard from and I've got a lot of time for
Jenny Shipley. The most extraordinary thing I've heard from an
ex Prime minister in a very very very long period
of time. If you want to in the Northern Advocate,
there is and it's on the Herald websites on the
Herald website. It's on the Herald website. There's an article

(53:52):
with Madame Meno Carpacini, who was elected as the article
opens to Tete Takou about a year ago. So they
have a word with her and see how she's vibing
and what she's going on in any way. She came
to our attention, of course, when she flipped the seat
from Kelvin Davis. What have you found most challenging, rights

(54:13):
the article or asks the article one of her biggest
challenges is traversing the worlds of Mariadom and a predominantly
Western parliamentary system. Sort of an unusual thing to say.
If you want a job, prepare for it. Don't be
surprised that it's like me turning up and going, what
do you mean, I've got to talk on the microphone?
How does this work? And prepare for it. Many on

(54:34):
the other side, she argues, of the Aisle don't understand
the issues we're dealing with, particularly as Mario Pacifica, because
the gap is so wide. I don't want to have
to do Treaty one oh one. It should already be
understood and appreciated. What I find interesting about Treaty one
oh one is that that doesn't apply to PACIFICA. So
how is it you lump Mariydom and PACIFICA one in

(54:55):
the same grouping? But then somehow Treaty one oh one
applies to PACIFICA, a group of people who had nothing
to do with the treaty. It seems weird. What are
the most What are you most proud of over the
last year, the article asks her. Kapachini highlights her ability
to quote unquote take a stand for Mokopuner, which includes
opposing the repeal of section seven double A. Now that's
the thing she's most proud of. What that indicates to me?

(55:18):
She hasn't done anything because you might notice that the
repeal of seven a's happened. So standing up going I
don't like the repeal of seven double A is not
really a thing. How would she rate her performance out
of ten? The article concludes, relative to my time there ten,
rating herself a call ten out of ten? What's that

(55:40):
tell eb Let me come back to Julia Gillard And
this is the other reason I want Erica Stammon on
the program. And a court case involving something very very
similar to what's happening in this country. Ten away from it.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
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Speaker 2 (55:57):
Eiven w I promote just before I forget. Probably the
one of the better pieces of reading it did over
the weekend was in the Sydney Morning Herald. They profiled
Winston Peters. I always find it interesting generally when outside
eyes profile us in whatever way shape will form, or
more specifically. Of course they've been profiling us in the
last couple of days because of the disaster in Parliament
last week. But they profiled Peter's and they he claims

(56:20):
in this article he's going to be running again in
twenty six, which will make him eighty one years old.
And you've got to say that for seventy nine, as
he currently isn't heading towards eighty one, he's still in
pretty remarkable shape given the circumstances in which he'd lead
himself into his seventies visa VI the drinking and the smoking, etc. Anyway,

(56:41):
it's an interesting article and it's well worth reading. Anne
Marie Brady, who's the professor of political science at the
University of Canterbury. She describes Peters as the only Kiwi
politician with a genuine foreign policy vision and I'm glad
she's come to that conclusion because I came to the
same conclusion and you saw it again in twenty seventeen.
The first thing he did in the Labor Deal was

(57:03):
to give a billion dollars to the Pacific and I think,
what the hell's that about? And where did that come from?
And he was seeing China coming a mile away, and
so he's been on that path for a long period
of time. It's just we haven't been listening. He's like
a man looking out to see she says, seeing risks
on the horizon. Were in a very bad time in
global politics, and he gets that. He has a sense

(57:23):
of urgency. So it's a very good piece, well worth reading.
In the Sydney Morning Herald. Right, Julia Gillard has called
on Australia's Attorneys General to urgently consider how to deliver
justice to survivors of child abuse after the High Court
ruled that a Catholic diocese was not liable for the
historic sexual abuse of a young boy in Victoria. So

(57:43):
back in twenty twelve, she established the Royal Commission Institutional
Responses to Child Sexual Abuse. Same story here. Of course,
the High Court overturned on appeal a previous ruling by
victorious Supreme Court and its Court of Appeal that had
found the Catholic Church Ballarat was legally responsible for the
misconduct of its former priest to go and call Father

(58:04):
Brian Coffee. On Wednesday, the High Court Federal usurp State
found that the relevant legislation did not provide a basis
for imposing vicarious liability on the church because the priest
could not be legally considered an employee. So it's technical,
but nevertheless still applicable the diet. And this is where

(58:24):
New Zealand to my eye, because the question is in
this the whole recompense thing is when the government starts
writing checks, what about the faith based organizations are they paying?
Are they going to be made to pay? And of
course I've asked Luxe in this question previously and he
hasn't been able to answer it. Now, this is a
specific case in Australia that dealt with a specific individual.
As far as I'm aware, we're not chasing down the

(58:48):
individuals as a direct result of the Commission into Abuse
in state care. So it's a more broad based finding
that things that shouldn't have happened did happen. So this
legal precedent may not apply, but we still don't have
the question answered as to are they going to be
made to pay?

Speaker 18 (59:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
The diocese and its current bishop was sued in the
Supreme Court of Victory A by a bloke who said
he had been sexually assaulted by coffee at his parents'
home back in nineteen seventy one. Legal experts are warning
that the decision could cast out over thousands of legal
cases against religious orders nationwide. So that's the sort of
thing that when it gets really crunchy, and believe me

(59:27):
it will, that they start to go, well, hang on,
they had a look at this legally in Australia. We
could probably have a look legally in this country as well,
So I think that's probably where it's going. So at
some point, or get Erica Stamford on the program and
see if we can't get an answer. Or two, let's
deal with sport for now though the Monday Morning commentary boxes.
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Speaker 15 (01:00:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Oh held andrews la Very good morning to you All Blacks.
Sev I enjoyed like the previous two games, I enjoyed
a shame we lost, but you know probably that you
might have changed your mind a different circumstances.

Speaker 10 (01:01:02):
But a good game, thrilling test match which you always
want to see. You want to see a close game.
But the All Black should have won that. They'll be
kicking themselves too many ears in the second half. They
had a heap of possession in the first half. They
should have been up by fifteen or twenty at half time.
Just a few defensive lapses here and there. The defense
was pretty good against Ireland, but there were a few
holes against the French. When the French they were lacking

(01:01:25):
six or seven key starters, so that's a very good
effort on their behalf. The crowd certainly lifted them. I
would have gone for the corner, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
It's because you're a winner. It's because you're a winner
with a spine.

Speaker 14 (01:01:38):
I'm a gambler, mate, you know pressure.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a feeling and Scott Robertson
has sort of intimated it last night or this morning
that there was a call that came down from the box.
Whether or not Scott Barrett took that on board and
made his own decision is a little bit unclear. The
concern is that a lot of commands are possibly still

(01:02:03):
coming down from the box when they don't need to.
There's a lot of experienced players on that.

Speaker 14 (01:02:07):
Field too much should have made the call to go for.

Speaker 10 (01:02:10):
The corner, because even if you cock up the line out,
the French are still stranded on their goal line and
there's still a chance to get the ball from another
line out and put them under precise pressure again. So anyway,
that's Test Match forty. A few wonky calls from the ref,
but you get that. But I just think the All
Blacks eras in the second half two two.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Okay, So let's leap ahead, guy and say they'll beat Italy,
which they will and Presuma they'll beat them reasonably easily.
So that's one loss, four wins. That's a reasonable tour
for the year end, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:02:41):
The tour I think overall has been great. I'd give
it a very high pass mark this end of year tour.
Only just losing to France again that says right, they
probably should have won. And if we look at the
season as a whole, that's kind of been a scene.
They should have beat in South Africa twice. They lost
both those games. Their worst game of the year was

(01:03:02):
against Argentina.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
That's the result that really sticks in the back of
the throat. That's the one that though, that will sit
under the old beach tail over the summer.

Speaker 18 (01:03:12):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:03:12):
There's a couple of things out of the game that
ones to do with rugby itself. And see I've kind
of mentioned it around the officiating and I'll just keep
beating this drum until someone listens the TMO. There's just
way too much interference from the TMO all the time,

(01:03:33):
and it's slowing the game down and they're still getting
calls wrong. I mean, how could that possibly have been
a nick roll against Offertonga FARSI. That was a terrible
call and it gave the French a little bit of
an escape at a stage where the game was at
quite a crucial point. The other one is around the
All Blacks and why they subbed cam Royguard.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
He was.

Speaker 15 (01:03:56):
Backs and they subbed him with twenty seven minutes to go.
I just thought that was a strange decision. I know
they've probably they've got this idea of fresh legs and
all that sort of stuff. They didn't look tired and
I would have kept them on the park.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
He was great. Two questions, which is better the Irish
National anthem or the French.

Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
French?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah? I agree.

Speaker 10 (01:04:16):
I think if you if you ever get a chance
to tick a couple of things off your bucket list,
one is to hear the Welsh anthem at Millennium Stadium.
Although the way they're playing Gee Wizards a bit a
bit of a concern there, but The second one is
the La macellais in Paris. It is just absolutely with
the prime.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I mean, France has got a lot of problems, but
the way they sing, the level of patriotism is unmatched
as far as we look as usual embarrassed and we
sing two versions and it's just it's.

Speaker 10 (01:04:47):
Sort of and we need someone to defend us, and
we're in trouble and everything's going downhill, and meanwhile the
French appears rolling and their cheeks. Argentina is similar. I
thought what the French did with the Harker was superb.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
It was, wasn't it?

Speaker 18 (01:05:01):
Friends running?

Speaker 10 (01:05:02):
Absolutely stunning?

Speaker 18 (01:05:03):
Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Did you watch the boxing?

Speaker 15 (01:05:07):
That was the biggest waste of half an hour or
forty minutes or so of my entire life.

Speaker 10 (01:05:12):
But were you expecting at least you didn't have to
at least you didn't have to pay extra for it. It
was included on your this is this is true?

Speaker 15 (01:05:21):
Was I expecting anything else?

Speaker 10 (01:05:22):
Well?

Speaker 15 (01:05:22):
We having watched the videos that emerged from Mike Tyson's training,
I kind of was expecting a little bit more. And
I've decided now that the only fifty plus year olds
that I like to see fight as one of you
two if you ever get in the round?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
What was the guy law Lloyd Mayweather? Remember he did
some fight like that and that was the beginning of
the end of serious sport at that level, wasn't it
that that was.

Speaker 10 (01:05:46):
Against Colin McGregor.

Speaker 15 (01:05:47):
Was something like that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
And they're all successful, they're all of massive money makers,
but everybody. What fascinates me is everyone surprised afterwards that
somehow it was anything more than a joke.

Speaker 10 (01:06:00):
And a lot of people still continued to watch it. Mike,
and it gains attention.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Yeah, I guess, but I mean, what would I just?
I just I mean he's an old dope, smoking, dead
weight Tyson and the other guy's an attention seeker, and
therefore it was what it was, wasn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:06:17):
Did you see my view has summed it with him
before the fight? No, So his son was the interviewer
in the in the in the locker room, it sounded
like I said, yeah, this is Tyson's son. He said.
He started interviewed by calling him dad just a little
bit odd, and Tyson mumbled a couple of answers, then
he walked away with no pants on.

Speaker 15 (01:06:37):
Yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
And it went downhill from there, Brie break moret a
moment Andrew Seivilguy have about thirteen past the.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Guy, where does Tim Salvey sip?

Speaker 15 (01:07:08):
Right right right up there? Seeking only two? Sir Richard
Hadley in terms of wickets taken for New Zealanders and Tests,
I think he has more than three hundred wickets and Tests,
more than two hundred look ats and odiis and more
than one hundred wickets and t twenties. I'm not sure
if there's any other bowler in the world who has those,
and if there is, there is not many of them.

(01:07:29):
I think it's going to be one of those situations where, yes, okay,
he's struggled recently, but I still think it's going to
be one of those situations where we don't know what
we had until it's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
He was a great player, okay. And sad Chris Wood,
who's first New Zealander.

Speaker 10 (01:07:44):
Wanting to bring this up you will, yep, been wanting
to bring this up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Well I got in first. Don't don't like I've raised it,
don't I wanted to do it as well? And then
come on mate, geez sorry save Let me come to
my point. First ever New Zealand to be awarded English
Premier League Player of the Month. He flies, am I correct?
Under the radar? Ish, doesn't he?

Speaker 10 (01:08:08):
He does compared to Harland and Cellar and guys like
that in the EPL. Yes, what he's done is quite remarkable.
It's a late career resurgence. He was a little bit
on the outer at Nottingham Forest. You know, he's been
through four or five Premier League teams. He's had a career.
It's lasted a dozen years, which is fantastic for New
Enaland to begin with. But to do what he's doing
now in his early thirties, he's pretty much in his well.

(01:08:31):
We look at him and he's in his prime snaffling
goals left, right and center. And that's a great thing
about Chris. What is that well number one, Mike. It's
very rare for in his land and to make the EPL,
like say Steven Adams in the NBA. It's even more
rea to have someone starring in the EPL. And then
he gets on a plane to come home to play
Vanuatu and some more. You've got to give him a

(01:08:51):
huge pat on the back for doing that. Very patriotic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
How did we handle that guy? Would you have raised
it and done it the way I just did that?

Speaker 15 (01:08:58):
I think he did very well, you know, flying pass marks.
But that was pretty much what I was gonna say.
What says said like to be just by an Earling
Harland in terms of the overall goal scorers. I mean,
Earling Harland is a superstar in the world of football,
and he's level was most Salah in terms of most
goals scored in the Premier League this season, and as
sav Rightley mentions, he could quite easily have I don't know,

(01:09:21):
made up an injury or just not bothered to come
home for with respect these games against the likes of
van Wato and then Smo tomorrow, and he's made the
effort to come back. He scored two goals against Vana
on Friday night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I think everyone scored against didn't they was twenty seven?

Speaker 10 (01:09:38):
Yeah, but you know I would have got you a
nudge one and yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:09:43):
But this is my point.

Speaker 15 (01:09:44):
You know, they didn't need him and he's come home
and he's just this is you know, good on, I'm
awesome to see that he's y is about.

Speaker 10 (01:09:52):
The and what you've got to remember, Mike, because these
Premier league clubs, they don't pick a key we out
of charity, right, it's got to be a very and
to foot it at that level is outstanding as playing
van of.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
A two as part of the qualifying process for the
World Cup. Why don't they just simply for the World Cup?
So any country that wants to win to cam because
it's sort of become fascical, doesn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:14):
It's too bloated.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I mean we used to not go because we get
beaten by Australia and then they invent their current category
where we play people who can't play football and we
win and then we'll pop up at the next World Cup.
But then again, so will everybody.

Speaker 15 (01:10:28):
Well yeah, it's changed this time because I think, what
is it forty sixteens or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
I mean that's ridiculous, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 15 (01:10:35):
It's crazy. We used to have to go through this
sort of thing and then play what was it second
or third Central America or South America. Yeah, yeah, and
that would be the biggest test. And now they've got
rid of that part, I think, and we just have
to win the OFC Nations Cup and whatever it is
and we get through the World Cup. So yeah, I

(01:10:55):
think it's.

Speaker 14 (01:10:56):
A little bit.

Speaker 15 (01:10:57):
I think it's going to be a bit convoluted when
it gets to the World Cup self.

Speaker 18 (01:11:00):
I think that's going to be a bit of a.

Speaker 15 (01:11:01):
Disappointing side of things. Too easy to get in.

Speaker 10 (01:11:03):
Essentially, great money has been a for ins in football
and great in z football to have the team with
the World Cup. But some other sides, some other probably
better sides are going to are going to miss out.
But that's fief as planned to spread around the globe.

Speaker 18 (01:11:15):
Data DA DA.

Speaker 10 (01:11:15):
Speaking of money, what's happened with Abloman race horse?

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
We've got what wet guy?

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
We've got three options, got one one, one's got three leads,
one's got two, one's got four. Well, so so there's
only there's one option where we've actually got a specific
horse and it has already won a trial owned by
a man by the name of David Voyce who also
bred the horse down in Canterbury. I'll send you an

(01:11:43):
email with all these details might so you can go
and decide who you want t have also got in touch.
They are keen to be involved.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Horse. Do they do horses? They've got horses.

Speaker 15 (01:11:56):
Racing is one of the biggest stables in the country.
They produce or train or own some of the best horses.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
So we've got an individual horse, we've got we've got
an established provider of horses.

Speaker 18 (01:12:10):
Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:12:11):
We've got another provider of horses who syndicate horses, who
are great people in social racing. Uh and they are
looking to get a horse at the ready to run
sales which are in about or ten days or so
or maybe next week, and they will find a nice
horse for us as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
So I don't want a nice horse.

Speaker 14 (01:12:33):
Nice a nice horse.

Speaker 10 (01:12:38):
We're not We're not taking kids for rides around the
bloody surfus cattock or a bloody A and P show.
I'm in this, mate, to make money. I don't want
to spend it. I want to make millions.

Speaker 15 (01:12:52):
I don't think you're listening to me. We've got to
get to the ready to run sales next week and
then we'll find the horse. At the moment, we've we've
got well, at least we go with mister Dave Voice
who has a horse for us, who's won a trial.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Okay, so what I'll do email all these details.

Speaker 15 (01:13:06):
I'll see you throw an email and then you can
delve a little bit deeper.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Right, Well, we'll talk about it next week and get
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sold out, sold out, sold out. Extra shows. Got an
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show in Wellington announced this morning. In an extra show
in Auckland announced this morning. Interestingly, none at the original
venues because obviously the venues are booked so they've had

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to change venues. But those tickets go on sale this Wednesday.
This Wednesday, go to Dainty if you want to get
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Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Norton, setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover. The line
designed to intrigue can use togs edbs.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Mike, don't go to our social racing much better and
the guy runs it as Rod Stewart's Doppelginger, which is
interesting but not really what we're interested as serious investors.
Where do we invest in the horse racing syndicate Hosking's Horses. Well,
we'll let you know whether we're going to go public
on this one, Mike. First thing you're going to need
is money. Second thing you're going to need is patients.
Third thing is money. Mike, give me a call and

(01:15:20):
I'll connect you directly with Lance O. Sullivan. There you go.

Speaker 16 (01:15:23):
Everybody knows that it would be more depressing. It would
be more depressing. Do you reckon a boat or a horse?
It's stipping money into.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
It's a fair question. On a boat, before you worked
all that out, you would at least get some sunny days,
might catch a fish and then you'd go nah. But
so I'd say boat twenty three minutes away.

Speaker 19 (01:15:43):
From not international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business's training.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
We go, Stephen, good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (01:15:52):
Good add good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I was going to ask you about this, Funnily enough,
and you happen to be in Adelaide for us this morning.
I was watching the supercars racing over the weekend, which
was on the streets of Adelaide, which you'd be well
aware if you're in Adelaide, and they did one of
those aerial shots where you sort of pull out and
look around. It's a beautiful looking area, isn't.

Speaker 18 (01:16:08):
It used to be the Victoria Park race course, and
then of course it was transformed into Australia's first well
the rebirth of Formula one in Australia because it was
the Formula one race for about ten years and then
Melbourne pinched it off Adelaide. But you can sit This
will make you feel happy about life. You can sit

(01:16:30):
on the upstairs outdoor veranda of a hotel, drinking South
Australian beer, watching the cars go past below you under
your feet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Unbelievable, that's incredible. And you're there for your mum's ninetieth.
What are you doing for a ninetieth? What does she do?

Speaker 18 (01:16:45):
Look the type seeking your money, speaking money and horses
and boats. I had to pay for a very expensive
There was fifty five people over the age of eighty
on their walking frames, turned up a the golf club
and I fed them and applied them with booze for
four hours.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Good on you, well, aren't you a nice son? So
she's obviously at ninety, in fine fettle and out there.
Did she play eighteen after lunch?

Speaker 18 (01:17:15):
No, no, we didn't play golf. We just drank an eight.
But she just lost her license for the first time
only because they do an eye test in South Australia.
I don't know if you do this in New zeal And.
She was deemed it not to be able to continue
to drive, which is a big wrench for someone of
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Hundred percent couldn't agree more so she got a car
to sell or what happens there.

Speaker 18 (01:17:36):
I'll give it to one of the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I think, are you going to ask her or are you.

Speaker 18 (01:17:41):
Just going to it won't be in the garage when
she wakes up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
It Back to Melbourne. How did Elbow go at Apeck?

Speaker 18 (01:17:49):
Well, he's still there and you know you and I've
talked about he's in a bit of trouble in the
polls and he's not seen as a particularly strong leader.
I think most Australians, if you polled them, would say, look,
if we're going to be in conflict, we don't want
this blow, particularly as our boss. He's not a strong
Prime ministry shrunk into the job. I've said that to
you before, but he's piled on top of his problems.

(01:18:11):
The Chinese leader Jijin King, she has said he's Anthony
Albanize is a model for all the rest of Western leaders.
They should all look at him and copy the way
he does things, and their countries will be better off.
That's not the sort of praise you really want. I
don't think. I mean, G's obviously over there glad handling
everyone before Donald Trump takes over in January. In the

(01:18:33):
United States and Australia is a major trading partner with
the Chinese. We sell them a lot of stuff that
we dig out of the ground. And so Gi and
Alba apparently got a love affair going on.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Oh interesting, this Maya's Christmas window. How is I mean
this applicable for so many things in life? How has
it come to be this way?

Speaker 18 (01:18:55):
Well, we don't demand that people who protest get a
permit for a start. In Victoria, they've refused, the very
hard left labor governments refused to do that. The my
Christmas windows are normally viewed by about two million people.
It's the biggest thing that happens in Melbourne. After the
Spring Racing Carnival, they unveil these department stool windows. They're

(01:19:15):
nowhere near as good as the ones in New York
are in London, but they've always been a tradition, so
they always opened them on a Saturday. They had to
cancel the opening because of pro Palestinian protesters who said
you cannot celebrate Christmas while children are being massacred in Gaza.
Now that is just completely ridiculous. So what happened about?

(01:19:38):
Ten people, one dressed up as a fake police officer
turned up there, started ranting and raving. There was no violence.
Police protected the windows, but the families just didn't come.
And this is part of the problem. You come to Melbourne,
you know what I'm talking about, when the city can
be dead. The reason it's dead is no one wants
to ruin their weekend by coming in here and being

(01:19:59):
overru by a protest.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Exactly shame. And speaking of Melbourne, the twenty billion dollar
rail so Dutton says, that's off.

Speaker 18 (01:20:08):
Yeah, a suburban rail loop. The federal government's only put
two billion in and hasn't even written the check yet
because they say they haven't seen a business model that
would mean that that money would be well spent. This thing,
I've told you before, it goes from somewhere no one
wants to be to somewhere no one wants to go.
They've started digging holes, they've written contracts, and now Peter

(01:20:30):
Dutton's going to make it a federal election issue. And
he said, look, if we win, we won't be putting
any money into that thing at all, So go your hardest,
but it's not going to happen. So what we're going
to see and I write a column in the Herald
toon about this at the weekend, You're going to see
two very expensive holes at each end of this project
with money poured into them, and no rail line ever

(01:20:53):
compared to Sydney's new Metro. And I urge all your
listeners the next time they're in Sydney to ride the
Metro in Sydney, which is driverless train, one hundred k
an hour under the harbor. Just fantastic, Melbourne. It's just
an ongoing woe when it comes to big projects.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
In flying, as I'm assuming you did to Adelaide. I
read a report the other day. I think it came
from the Triple CA or the Triple A or whatever
the hell they call themselves in Australia. Since Rex and
bonds A fell over the price of going in one
of the routes I think was from Melbourne to Adelaide,
It could have been Sydney to Adelaide. The price of
the airfares has gone through the roof. Is that your experience?

Speaker 18 (01:21:27):
Yeah, I drove, but you're right, and particularly because the
vights are on here this weekend, airfares are just through
the roof. Domestic travel in this country it always happens.
Everyone tries to set up a third airline. We've had
all sorts of different operators and they all go broke.
Because Quantus and Virgin which is now going to be
largely owned by the Katari Airline, they just jacked the

(01:21:47):
fares up to make it impossible for a third competitor
to survive. But domestic affairs I don't know about In
New Zealand. I don't think it's much better there. I
know domestic airfares are through the roof. By the way,
I'm in New Zealand from Boxing day I had to
rent book a rental car out of Auckland Airport out
of twenty six well if I'm prepared to pay you

(01:22:09):
half a million dollars to get a car for ten days.
I fine, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Where are you going.

Speaker 18 (01:22:16):
New Plymouth first and then golfing around somewhere? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Okay, So you you so that you're telling me the
cost of the car. You can get a car at
the cost of the car is too high.

Speaker 18 (01:22:28):
Oh, I believed it's like two hundred dollars or two
hundred and fifty dollars a day to wind.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
A caruses Is that like a Mercedes? Or is it
a Toyota?

Speaker 18 (01:22:38):
No, it was for ur. No, it's just a normal car,
a Yarus. And I didn't even know what a Yarras is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Oh, you don't want to know what a Yarras is.
If they're honestly quoting your turner fifty dollars a day
for a Yaris, there's something seriously has gone wrong.

Speaker 18 (01:22:54):
All right, I'll do some more investigating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Okay, keep us in touch. Appreciated very much.

Speaker 16 (01:22:58):
If it's a years cross, if.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
It's Yarra's cross, that's a completely different experience. That's a
completely different experience.

Speaker 16 (01:23:04):
More I'm more and more leaning towards the Yarras Cross.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Yeah, but that's what you said three months ago. And
when I asked you the other day, have you brought you.

Speaker 16 (01:23:10):
In a well known fact that purchasing a car takes
a long time?

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Is it? So how many months in counting?

Speaker 16 (01:23:18):
It's not like you where missus Huskin Hawksby is afraid
to let you leave the house because you've just come
back with the car.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Actually, I ordered a part the other day for a car,
which I haven't done for In fact, I don't think
i've ever No, I've only ever once in my car
owning life, ordered a part for a car, and it
was a nineteen sixty nine Mark one Daimler and they
didn't have the brakes in the country and so they
had to go and order it from Britain. So that
was exciting. That was about forty years ago.

Speaker 16 (01:23:45):
But you didn't order it. They ordered it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Of course they ordered it. I didn't order it, but
but I was involved in the ordering that They said,
shall we order one? And I said yes, and so
then but then the other day I had to actually,
for the first time in my entire life, chase down
a part and find a source for the part and
order the part all by myself and it'll be only
successful when it arrives. It's coming from the other side

(01:24:08):
of the world, so we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 19 (01:24:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
B living away from nine High Steve can have Mike
Ower for one hundred and fifty bucks a day. Peter,
thanks for your offors see how it goes.

Speaker 16 (01:24:23):
I'll drive him for one hundred and fifty bucks exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
By the way. Bromwin Halfpenny as opposed to Bromwin half
Wit is a Victorian Parliamentarian Secretary for Jobs and she
was at a tech conference last week and she's made
news all over Australia this morning because in her speech
in front of some of the biggest tech minds in
the world, she was talking about A one. Can't make

(01:24:53):
this up. She told the crowd how A one was
revolutionizing the economy, that A one would become a permanent
part of Australia going ford, and how the jobs market
would have to shift to accommodate a one. She later,
when clearly they had pointed out that it wasn't a one,
tried to downplay it by posting a picture of herself
posing with staff at the A one Bakery in Brunswick.

(01:25:15):
Quote should have been here Tuesday when A one Bakery
was on my mind. The Victorian Liberal member for the
Northeastern Metropolitan Region, Richard Welsh, later tweeted the speech made
him weep for Victoria. You can't make that stuff up.

Speaker 17 (01:25:30):
Eh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
It is nine away from Nonne.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
On my costal breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities News togs.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
That'd be the question for you this morning. Is New
Zealand two small to have an Airport's Award because I
noticed over the weekend that Wellington Airport won the best
Large Airport in the country, thus indicating there are other
categories like best not large airport in the country. So
Wellington the annual New Zealand Airport Awards handed out in Hamilton.
Wellington also won the Large Airport Environmental Sustainability Agree jointly

(01:26:01):
with Marlborough for hosting the country's first all electric aircraft trial.
So you host a trial, you win an award. Hamilton
is best medium airport North Shore, which I deal with
a lot. Actually the North Siaer Airport because of drive
past it most weekends into and out of the country
and you'll never see a busier airport. The number of
sesson is taking off from that thing is just unbelievable.

(01:26:21):
It's fantastic. Anyway, the North Shall Airport is the best
small airport. But you also not only had the best
airports of varying sizes, you had the best infrastructure large
medium and small, best commercial and non aeronautical, large, medium
and small. Environmental sustainability, large, medium and small, Best community engagement,

(01:26:45):
large medium and small. I can't emerging Leader of the Year, Large,
medium and small. I don't know it. Just like that's
a lot of awards for I mean, New Zealand's only
got five million people and we've got one and a
half alliance.

Speaker 16 (01:26:59):
For god, I have one for best bloke who drives
the luggage out and then hands you the case straight
off the back of the yep.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Didn't edin. Yeah he won that one. It's weird business,
isn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:27:11):
I was sure it was going to be the guy
in Taroga.

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
He came second, five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Trending now with the Sarehouse, the real House of frequencies.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
This is the scam of the day. So guy used
to wander around in fourteen eighty five. He's guy called Richard.
Locals called him Dick anyway as a king. So they've
re they're claiming this morning they found his body as
remains of course in that Leicester car park a few
years back.

Speaker 16 (01:27:41):
Hunch in his back.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Right, that's him. He used to work at the airport anyway,
those bags are heavy, exactly John Moore's University in Liverpool.
And our claiming they've recreated his voice. Now, how you
would know that you've recreated something that you've never heard
is the scam. And so they riped in a leading

(01:28:02):
linguist in fifteenth century pronunciation, there's a job, isn't it?
You go to the party. So Dave, what do you
do for him? Well, obviously I'm a leading linguist in
fifteenth century pronunciation.

Speaker 16 (01:28:13):
Not unnning linguist.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
David Crystal said, be you sayable?

Speaker 16 (01:28:25):
I don't think so?

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Okay. Anyway, they think they've recreated the voice of King Richard.
So this is what they've come up.

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
With, following in the footsteps of our ancestors, and with
the assent and advice of the side prelates, dukes and
barons of Oreum of England, with grants prerogatives and insignia,
and we door make and create him Prince of Wales
and Earl of Chester.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Now that's obviously not his voice, but that's what he
would have sound like if he had a reasonably high pitched,
annoying voice, which you may or may.

Speaker 16 (01:29:04):
Not every second character on Game of Thrones fatally.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
And the problem with that is prove them wrong, couldn't he?

Speaker 16 (01:29:16):
I mean, the bosses go through the archives out there.
They've probably got some recordings from Batman.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
The boss going through the archives is a story I
must tell you, because there's in a number of for
a number of different reasons, I might do that tomorrow.
We'll see how we go. But back tomorrow morning at six.
There's always Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
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