Full Show Podcast: 19 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're trusted source for news and views.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Heather Duplicy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the
range rover villa designed to intrigue, can use togs V seven.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Morning and welcome to you. Coming up today, it's GDP day.
So are we back in our third recession in two years?
Most likely we're gonna have a chat to asb's chief economist.
After seven, Erica Stanford, Minister of the Year, on the
compo that's being offered to victims of Lake Alice and
whether she's actually got enough money for us. We're going
to talk to High Performance Sport about cutting the money
for hockey and saying completely no to e sports altogether.

(00:35):
And then Mark Hadlow, the Lord of the Rings fame,
on his new stage show about an angry old cyclist.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
After eight, Heather Duplicy Allen, look, I couldn't help but.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Feel ever so slightly irritated yesterday by a New Zealand's
big announcement that put out a statement trumpeting the fact
that they have just splashed out on the biggest shipment
of sustainable aviation fuel yet and who they're going to
punch power a whole bunch of flights across the Pacific
on animal and cooking fat leftovers. Now, I'm sure that
they think that they're doing good here, but just got

(01:04):
all my nerves because you know what I'd like more
than an announcement about what wonderful climate warriors they are,
It would be an announcement that prices are coming down,
all that flights are going to run on time for
you know, just one day. Instead, what I'm being told
is they've just blown a whole lot of money, because
this stuff is a lot more expensive than normal jet fuel,
blown a whole lot of money on greenwashing themselves. Now,

(01:25):
I think in New Zealand needs to take a leaf
out of the books of several big businesses globally and
maybe spend less time on trying to fix the planet
and more time on just trying to fix their business.
BP has sold its offshore wind farms, drop back its
emissions reductions, gold, it's increasing its investment and guess what,
Oil and Gas shell scaling back its investments in renewables
as well. Mercedes Benz abandoned its ev goal gone back

(01:48):
to sprucing up its combustion engines. Why because that's their business.
It's like cars combustion cars are the business of Mercedes Bens.
Oil and gas is the business of BP, and flying
a plane for as cheap and as punctually as possible
would be the business of in New Zealand. I would
have thought, now I'm not naive. I mean, I understand
why they're doing this right. They firmly believe that there

(02:10):
is consumer pressure to reduce their climate harm. I think
they are more worried about this than they actually need
to be. I think there's much more consumer pressure on
them getting prices down and just getting us to our
destinations on a time A little bit more focus on that. Please?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
What news of the world in ninety seconds? So one of.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Kia's MP's over in the UK the matter of Mother
of the House, Diane Abbott, has had a go at
her own party leader for no compo for the waspy woman.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I understand the issue about the cost, but does the
Prime Minister really understand how locked down what's be women
feel today.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
To which Kia said, have you seen our debt levels?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
I'm afraid to say the tax personally can't afford the
tens of billions of clowns in compensation. When the evidence
does show that nineteen present of those impacted to know
about it, that's because of a state of aur economy.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Staying in the UK, a judge has jailed a nineteen
year old kid for nine years because he was video
doing laughing guess in the driver's seat of a car
before he crushed the car and killed three people.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
Moments before their deaths, Thomas Johnson's passengers laugh and then
this the tires screech as Johnson drifts around the corner.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
The father of one of the victims still can't believe it.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
It was just completely erects dangerous behavior. There's no way
that anybody can in their right mind can think that
they can drive around at the speeds they were driving
while inhaling nitrous oxide balloons and consider that.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
To be safe.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Christian in the Middle East right now is just how
long the new regime change in Syria can remain peaceful.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
I think in the days and weeks ahead, and we're
going to see some Arab demonstration of power.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Intoluens well to notice in terms of piss.

Speaker 8 (04:01):
You had your background, but also to try and some
Juri assert somehow of influence in the maascis.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
You remember those astronauts stuck at the International Space Station.
I hope they're loving it because their stage just got longer.

Speaker 9 (04:12):
Now says this is to allow engineers more time to
process a brand new SpaceX crew Dragon spacecraft that will
bring their replacement crew to the International Space Station.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
And finally, Tom Cruise is a military hero in real life.
The Navy has awarded him the Department of the Navy's
Distinguished Public Service Award for his dedication and contribution to
the US Navy through his film work. This is actually
the highest honor that the Navy can give to a
person who isn't actually part of the Navy. And then
mostly talking about his work. I mean, they're only talking

(04:45):
about his work, aren't they? On the top Gun films here,
which they say led to a surge in recruitment after
both movies were released. And that is news of the
world in nineteen seconds. Listen, this has just happened over
in the States just in the last oh I would
say hour or their about Apparently the Matt Gates reporters
coming out in the next few days. Now. This is
the report that deals with an investigation into several allegations

(05:08):
against Matt Gates, who was suppose he was originally Trump's
pack for Attorney General, one of the allegations being that
he had sex with a minor and so on. The
House Ethics Committee has secretly voted to release it. They haven't,
as far as I can see, publicly confirmed this, but
this has been leaked now. And what that means is
that at least one Republican has actually flipped aside with

(05:28):
the Democrats on this to get this stuff out there
because he's a deeply unpopular guy in Washington. CNN is
suggesting that this report could be out before the end
of the year. Twelve plus six, the.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
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Speaker 1 (05:44):
How of my news talks ad been?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Hey, listen, this is news that is just kind of
coming out. In the last twenty minutes or so, it's
been confirmed that Sergio Perez and Red Bull have reached
an agreement to part ways with immediate effect. They've put
the to it, saying the usual stuff about each other.
Perez are saying that driving for Red Bull has been
an unforgettable experience. Christian Horner is saying, you'd like to
thank Sergio Perez for all he's done for Oracle red

(06:07):
Bull Racing for the past four seasons and so on,
but basically it's all over. Further announcements regarding the team's
full twenty twenty five lineup will be made in due course,
and the speculation, in fact, some media outlets around the world,
in places like Germany and so on, are actually reporting
that it will be Liam Lawson that and he's got
it confirmed. We're just waiting for that to be announced.

(06:28):
Sixteen past six has it gone way into money? Greg Smith,
Devin Funds Management with US Now Morning Greg, Yeah, morning
to your Heather. Are you liking that consumer confidence survey?

Speaker 10 (06:38):
Yeah, it's certainly looking a bit better than it was.
Consumes a feeling a bit more chipper. It seems this
is the West PICC McDermott Miller consumer confidence the next
It was up seven points in December ninety seven point five. Look,
it's still though long term iverages, but it is the
most upbeat households have been in three years, so we'll
certainly take that no surprise. What's underpinning confidence with god

(06:58):
to see falling inflation and the ABNZ, it's been cutting rates,
present conditions and exits risen as is the outlook, and
just looking at terms in terms of that, and that
negative fifteen percent still have a negative view. That has
ease a little bit to nine percent of this reed,
so the five year outlook is also picked up from
plus six percent to plus nine point three percent. Notably,

(07:22):
the rising conference is most pronounced among middle to higher
income households, and also generally, although confidence is picking up,
we're not exactly going on a spending spree this holiday
season just yet by the looks of things, So it's
all a bit of a reluctance in terms of big
ticket purchases. Increase spending mainly in bars and restaurants, so
that probably reflects the more jovial mood, but yet not

(07:43):
spending on large big ticket items yet, perhaps surprising suppots.
And you think about we've had those rate cuts evenly,
but they haven't had a real impact just yet. You know,
most New Zealand mortgages are on fixed terms, so it
takes time to transmit to the household finances. So the
good news we've got around half of all morea either
on floating rates or coming out for repricing the next
six months. Yes, so we should see consumers being pushed

(08:06):
high through mid twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Are you looking at that current account deficit narrowing and
thinking that's good news.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Yeah, and I think it sort of ties in with
what we've sort of just talked about a little bit
that consumers have been belt tightening and that sort of
reflected in the current account numbers. So if we look
at it, the deficit narrowed in September by point nine
billion to six point two billion, and the current count
deficit basically reflects difference between what we earn overseas and

(08:33):
what we spend off shore. The improvement was driven by
a point eight billion full in goods imports and that
narrow the deficit there to one point nine billion. It's
efectively were importingly stuff, so in part due to that
consumer belt tightening in particular talking about this in a minute,
but yeah, fewer cars imported. Also are no defensive aircraft

(08:54):
as well during the quarter. So on an annual basis,
the current account deficit is twenty seven billion CE. Look
in terms of GDP here that it's six point four percent,
So it's improved from six point six percent in June.
Margely Beer and forecast, and yeah, way down from that
peak levels of nine percent and twenty twenty two. When
you think about that, that was when Kiis are on
a bit of a suspending spurge. Just looking at some

(09:15):
other aspects of the print, we earn more from dividends
and this from investments than overseas investors did. Also the
Financial Council called a needin five two point one billion
from overseas investors. But just looking at the balance sheet
side of things, in the international investment liability position two
to eight billion, that's almost fifty percent of GDP, So
that's widened from forty eight percent at June. So we're

(09:37):
borrowing more from overseas then we're acquired and overseas financial asseets.
But the improvement of the carry again theft it is
good news at least.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
So listen on the cars. What do you make of
this merger between all the rumors of the merger between
this and and Honda.

Speaker 10 (09:50):
Yes, we're getting set for a big type potentially. So
reports are the Honda in the center exploring a merger
now that would create the third largest auto group globally
with six eight million to say vehicle sales annually. And
basically I suppose the idea that the what I seeter
has been under pressure a bit with competition obviously, with
the economy softening generally and also in terms of their type,

(10:13):
would be a better position to compete with Toyota. They
sell around eleven million cars each year, so it would
create economies of scale, and this an has been under pressure.
They cut their outlook recently. They said they plan to
slash nine thousand jobs. So invistas of car SI vote.
The companies themselves are are keeping things pretty quiet. But
she is in Nissan serage twenty four percent. That was

(10:33):
a big steple one day jump could also involve to
expand to include Mitsubishi Motors, in which Nissan is a
twenty four percent shield and Mitsubishi shares they soared seventeen percent.
Is aid effectively consolidate the Japanese auto industries. You've got
one control by Honda this and a Mitsubishi and the
other of Toyota, and they've got stakes and likes of Subaru,
Suzuki and Mazda. Wouldn't be a meager of equals. You

(10:55):
look at the valuation. Honda's six point eight trillion yen
that's around forty four billion years. Nissians are fifth of that,
and the group will also be dwarfed by Tours forty
two point two trillion. But yeah, certainly created some bigger scale.
And it's also comes as the times these two companies
have actually been pulling back on ties with other sort
of global pers and Thissians loosened its ones with Francis

(11:15):
Renault and Hondas backed away from General motors. But yeah,
certainly going to work together. And I suppose another big
thing for them as well with this type here there
would be the EV market, which they've already partnered with
earlier in the year, so there've been a better position
to con peak for likes of Tesla and also Chinese
EV makers such as Byd. So it seems clear logic
to the race for scale in the winter sector.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Y yeah, brilliant stuff. All right, give us the numbers.

Speaker 10 (11:39):
So yeah, we've got the doubt is up point four
percent forty three six zero nine, got the some P
five one hundred up point two percent six zero sixty four.
Then there's that up point two percent twenty one four
seven foot seat pretty flat eight one nine nine. UK
inflation rows two point six percent, So I think the
Bank of England's going to remain on hold. The nick
come was down point seven percent and one Hondred actually

(12:00):
fell three percent on these reports A six two hundred
down points zero six percent. Intex fifty we were down
point four percent. That comes after a couple of updates
twelve eight sixty five, although they were spending on some
things hellen Stein glassons that hit a record high goal
down eleven bucks two six three five and ounce oil
up a dollar seventy one spot fourteen. Currency markets Kiwi

(12:21):
down point six percent against the US fifty seven point two,
Australi strand dollar with flat ninety point eight against pounds
stealing down half percent forty five point zero, and you
get set for the feed. So we've got a decision
that around seven our time, and then the press conference
to follow shortly after.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Good stuff, Greg, thanks very much appreciated, Greg Smith, Devon
Funds Management. On that confidence survey came in at ninety
seven and a half. Right, but get this, men are
way more, way more confident. Men are coming in at
one hundred and eight point six. Women pessimistic eighty seven
point two.

Speaker 11 (12:51):
Just such bullshit as an't they?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Men just see opportunity and women just see reality. And
that is why, that is why you need probably both
in your life at some stage.

Speaker 12 (13:01):
Six twenty two, the Vike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio, Power by the News talks that'd be Hey.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
We may have a little bit of good news on
our believe at oil and gas sector. Apparently one of
the largest gas supplieres is not going to leave New Zealand.
After all. We'll talk about this in about ten minutes.
Right now, it's six twenty.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Five trending now Him's warehouse your home for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Sometimes the truth hurts are we're talking right now about
the flat Earth theory and a guy by the name
of Jeron Campanella. Now he's considered to be one of
the most famous flat earthers amongst the community that believes
you if you keep sailing, you actually will drop off
the side. He's got a YouTube show called Jerinism on
the channel Globebusters, which is the most popular flat earther
YouTube channel, as if that's a whole category by itself,

(13:48):
apparently so. Anyway, Jerin has been doing a number of
experiments to prove that the Earth is flat. In twenty seventeen,
he worked with scientists who showed him the curve didn't
believe it. In twenty eighteen, he was involved in a
documentary Behind the Curve, where a light perimid that he
set up should have showed the lights staying in place
of a period of time, but it actually drifted fifteen
degrees per hour, proving that the Earth was in fact rotating.
He didn't believe it. So the latest thing that he's

(14:09):
done is accept a trip to Antarctica because Antarctica is
ice wall. Apparently. Of course, if you know a moron,
you know the sun doesn't set during the summer in Antarctica. Finally,
looks like that's enough proof for him.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
Sometimes you are wrong in life. And I thought that
there was no twenty four hours soun. In fact, I
was pretty sure of it. Will Duffy. He kept saying
it was true. I kept saying it wasn't. He said,
do you want to go? I'll take you and brought
me here. And it's a fact the sun does circle
you in the south. So what does that mean? You guys,
you don't have to figure that out yourself. Don't listen

(14:40):
to my beliefs or my opinion. It shouldn't matter to you,
but at least you should be able to accept that
the sun does exactly what these guys said as far
as circles the southern continent.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So that's about it.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
I realized that I'll be called a shill for just
saying that, And you know what, if you're a shill
for being honest, so be it. I honestly believe there
was no twenty four hours son. I honestly now believe
there is.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, he's a shell for science. Say how shocking a
shell for science? News? Is next news togs?

Speaker 2 (15:09):
He'd be setting the news of jeddter and digging into
the issues heaven dole Ce Ellen on the Mike Hosking
Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential,
commercial and rural newstalgs dead be.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
You might have caught up on this in the last
twenty four hours or so. The popes revealed that there
are a couple of attempts to blow them up when
he went to Iraq it was foiled, obviously. Is he
still alive. We're going to talk to Joe McKenna about
that correspondent in Italy shortly, and of course it's GDP
day today, so we're probably going to find out that
we're in our third recession in two years, Habit chat
to asb's chief economist Nick Toughly after seven. It's twenty

(15:45):
three away from seven, so we may have a little
bit of good news out of our believe at Oil
and Gas sector, Resources Minister Shane Jones guest that I
claimed in Parliament that OMV, one of the country's largest
gas suppliers, has announced it's not going to leave New
Zealand after all. Director and head of research it in Elistica,
John Kidd is with us. Now morning John, Good morning Heather.

(16:07):
Now are you seeing some potential here, like is this
them saying we want to stay in New Zealand or
is it more of a case that they're trying to
sell their stuff. They can't sell this stuff so they
have to stay put.

Speaker 13 (16:19):
I think it's more the latter of the two ownly
has been known for the last couple of years as
having signaled to the market it's been keen to just
look at options to sell us New Zealand assets. They
tried just almost two years ago as part of a
bundled assets for the Asia pac business and they weren't
able to include New Zealand and that SSL but it
didn't include everything else. In about a year ago, they

(16:41):
announced that they were still keen to look at options
to sell their New Zealand business, and of course the
announcement last day or two is that that hasn't happened.
So I think it's more a case of having tried
to sell the business and.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Haven't been able to, in which case it's not actually
a good news story at all because it means they
don't want it, nobody else wants to either.

Speaker 13 (16:59):
I think it's something to that. Yeah, yeah, it's you know,
it is what it is. They tried the market and
they settled on an outcome that Israeli status quo. So
it's in many respects it's just a continuation of where
we were and that will continue into the future. The
real question for the sector is, you know, what does
that mean? Because the sector is a reach fort gas

(17:19):
and it needs continual reinvestment into the sector to be
able to bring new gas to market. And the question
now for OMV and the rest of the sector as well,
is I only be able to do that given that
they had signal previously that they were more keen to
sell the business.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, I would say then, based on this that Shane
Jones is probably getting nowhere is he convincing investors to
come back.

Speaker 13 (17:42):
Yeah, it's a really tough sell New Zealand. You know
the last five or six years. I mean, you've got
to think about OEMV and where they came in. They
actually bought the business from Shell in twenty and eighteen,
literally very very close to when the offshore oil and
Gas band was announced, and it hasn't many got news
stories since then. They have been a major esther into
the sector in the last four or five years after

(18:02):
having bought business that hasn't gone well. Gas is where
it is, and you know, the next chapter is now
upon us as to what happens. And as you say,
Owen's now signal that they're going to be partly a
chapter going forward. The real question is are they able
to keep on reinvesting given the wouldn't say they're a
reluctant owner of the assets, but they tried not to
be the owner of those assets.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
So what does that mean?

Speaker 14 (18:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Hey, I see Graymouth Petroleum announced last week it's getting
pretty good gas flows out of that well they just
sputtered near Stratford. Do you think that this is material.

Speaker 13 (18:31):
Well, any new gas is material. We've actually had a
reasonable flurry of half decent news out of sector in
the last month or two. OV is actually drilling a
new well now, which is a bit.

Speaker 15 (18:42):
Of a long burn.

Speaker 13 (18:43):
It'll come to Mark probably in March next year. But
which one is going to brings This is the new
Parkura well, a very long well and will take quite
some time to make happen, and we've been waiting, frankly
for years for it. But that is now drilling actually
increase production by maybe as much as ten percent just
on that scene, a well across the entire segue. So
graham Mouth has had some good news the scenes as well.

(19:04):
There is now some memourings out of the rest of
the sector. If there's another playing the Injured Corporation, a
smaller player that had some good news out of a
well called Tariki about two or three weeks ago. So
you know, we're really hoping that we're turning a corner
ready with guess supply, and we didn't into twenty five.

Speaker 14 (19:19):
Place what we were.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, John, can we say then, based on this that
all of those predictions that we have normal gas left
is actually not true?

Speaker 13 (19:26):
Well, it's never the case that there's normal gas left.
There is always plenty of gas around, it's a matter
of being able to bring it to market. So what
is true is that, you know, four or five years ago,
we had a market that was literally five hundred charadrills
a day. Today it's more like three hundred terrri DULs
a day. And when crunch time comes and low hydro
comes into the system, you need to fill it with
something else for that that gas just isn't there anymore.

(19:48):
So we're in the gas business, you're constant. In the
depletion business. You're winding down and you need to keep
a reinvesting to stand still. And we know that's I
guess the question now out of the back of the omb,
and now it's is that investm it's required, which is
literally one hundreds of millions, probably into the billions of dollars.
Will that come now that the status quo pavils on
IMV is still in the sector.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Brilliant John, Thanks for talking us through and I'm very
hopeful with that good news. That's John kid the director
in the head of research at Analystic. And going back
to what I said at the start of the program
here that you're one hundred percent correct on their New
Zealand call. If when mills and solar where the future
oil companies would be all in. It's not like they're
sort of cash or capital to invest. They were all
in and now they're selling it down, which tells you

(20:28):
what they thought of that once they got in there.
Obviously the green washing didn't pay off. Hey, I'll tell
you what's weird is this decision from Chris Penk about
renaming some of the place names that have been incorrectly
named in Mardi right, so the most prominent of the two,
he's renamed one of the parks at one of the
places in central North Idland. Fair enough, go for it.
And he's also put a is given is given that

(20:49):
little weird suburb around Spark Arena in Auckland, you know,
around Britain. Marty's given that a name.

Speaker 14 (20:53):
So cool.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
But Potoni wanted to change to Pittel or Air because
Potni is just a made up name. It's just it's
like some dude arrived in New Zealand heard Petorna and
with Petoni and then it's stuck. And so all that
they were asking and Potoni is can we take it
back to its original name, which actually means something, and
he goes nah, and he didn't explain why, and I
find that quite strange, but because I mean, I think

(21:17):
I don't know. Would it be that hard for us
to figure it out? If you saw Potoni and Petorna
written on his side, you'd kind of know what you were,
would know, wouldn't we? So I'm not really sure. I'd
love an explanation from Chris actually on why he's done this.

Speaker 11 (21:30):
Is there is there a macron involved? There?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
No, there's no macron involved. There is the macron the
thing that throws you.

Speaker 16 (21:36):
Oh well, I was just wondering if there's a macron shortage,
because I noticed when you're coming in on the Northwestern Motorway, for.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Example, everything's got a macron.

Speaker 16 (21:43):
Well, no, some signs say that you're going to fun
A with a macron, and then some say say it
without it, and obviously they're hard to get.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
It must be I'm underestimating Christmas rash on macrons, obviously.
The other one that I find even more perplexing is
that Takaninny actually should have a macron, so it should
be tarkaniny, so it should be it should be a
long A there and they ask can we do that please?
And he was like, Nat, why what's the problem. I mean,
I think if we looked at Tacaninny and Tarkaniny, we'd

(22:14):
figure we'd figure that out, wouldn't we? So why Anyway,
Chris does not appear to be giving interviews on this,
which I find quite strange, and I'd love to have
a chat to him about it. So if Chris wakes
up in time, if he could maybe just quickly schedule
us in for a little bit, I'd be It is
so grateful just to understand what's going on here. Sixteen
away from seven the Mic.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
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Speaker 3 (22:38):
I agree with Chris Penk and I actually submitted against
the name change because all names are just made up
in life is all about change. Just because the MARRII
originally called it something else doesn't mean its current name
is wrong, as it just evolved, which I suppose like
there is an element of truth to that, because we
are we are bastardizing things up and down this country, right,
I mean, like the bleder is low cup. Every time
I hear it makes my ears bleed. It's the bleeds

(23:00):
Low Cup. It's Wellesley Street, not Wellesley Street. But we've
done our own little thing, but that haven't. We're very happy,
So maybe we could just keep going with that as well.
But maybe he could just explain this to us. Thirteen
Away from.

Speaker 17 (23:11):
Seven International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance Feace of
mind for New Zealand business Joe Mattenna.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Out of a city for US. Hello, Joe, good morning, Heather,
So good thing. The Pope survived. Geez, by the sounds
of things, the ones who were after him got blown up,
didn't they.

Speaker 18 (23:28):
Yeah, Look it makes you wonder, doesn't it. The Pope
has just celebrated his eighty eighth birthday yeares today and
in an excerpt published in one of the Italian papers,
he's revealed from his new book that British spies foiled
two size suicide bomb attacks that were targeting him during
his Iraq visit in twenty twenty one. And you'll, of course,

(23:49):
you'll remember that the country was still undergoing quite a
lot of violent upheaval at that time. He was determined
to make this visit and this is the first time
we've heard about it. To be coming out in more
detail in his book called Hope, which is published in January.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Going to be fascinating to read that. Actually, now, what
is going on? Why is Maloney in trouble for having
a relationship with us?

Speaker 18 (24:12):
Look, I think it's quite controversial because she's cultivated this relationship,
this friendship with Elon mask the billionaire, who of course
is very close to the president elect Donald Trump. She
also has a good relationship with Donald Trump. She's positioned
herself as a significant political leader now in Europe, and
she was questioned in parliament about this relationship, suggesting that

(24:36):
there was too much influence from the billionaire, and she said,
I have very good relations with a lot of people
and I don't take orders from anyone. And anyone who
knows Georgia Moloney, I think, would believe that because she's
a very feisty leader and she might be pushed around.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
But what is the allegation, I mean, what's the problem
that's been thrown at her?

Speaker 18 (24:55):
I think the sense is that she's not in control
and that she might be slavishly executing orders on behalf
of other interests.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Does she strike you as that kind of a woman.

Speaker 18 (25:09):
She doesn't really, and I think she's been very clever
in developing this business relationship looking for investment in Italy.
So I think we should just wait and see what
happens there.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Hey, listen, how's this going to go down if they
ban the smoking outside of Milan.

Speaker 18 (25:24):
Look, it's already getting harder for Italians and we know
they love their cigarettes. It's great to go to a
restaurant here and sit indoors where you don't have cigarette smoke,
but you can smoke outdoors in a restaurant here. Now
Milan is going to make it almost impossible to smoke
outdoors from next month in a bid to improve their
air quality. It sounds quite severe. But on the other hand,

(25:48):
Milan does have one of the highest pollution levels in Europe,
and I guess that is a major concern for the
local authorities.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, jeez, Hey, thank you very much. Joe really appreciated.
Merry Christmas. Do you have a lovely holiday to hither?
Thanks so much, thank you. That's Joe McKenna out of
Italy for us Hither. At a time when things are
difficult financially, the last thing the Council's need is to
be wasting thousands of dollars or more in rates on
new signs for a virtue signaling name change. Chris Pink
is absolutely right to throw a pital on it in
the bin where it belongs. Ten to seven.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Heather Dupersy Allen on the My Costing break list with
the range Rover Villain News talks dead b.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
On the drones. You want an update on the drones again,
give you an update. These are all updates that are
not updates, by the way, because everybody seems to be
doing the thing where they're like, oh, nothing to worry about,
what we can't actually tell you. So what happened is
that the people who know what's going on with the
drones have given members of the US House Intelligence Committee
are closed door briefing, right, and so all of these

(26:48):
people on the committee now know what's going on with
the drones. So they came out this morning with Biden
to tell us what's going on with the drones, and
it was all like, oh, it was all about what's
not going on with the drones rather than what's going on,
if you know what I mean. So it's no aliens,
no foreign actors, nothing, no laws being broken, nothing to
worry about here. Vast majority of sightings just normal aircraft,

(27:10):
just drones being operated lawfully. Biden went on to say,
there's lots of authorized drones up there. I think one
started it, and they all everybody wanted to get in
on the on the deal. So basically one went up,
freaked some people out, and then everybody else decided to
start doing copycatting at night. It's not gonna wash, is it,
Because if you're giving a closed door briefing, why don't
you just give an open If there's nothing to see here,

(27:31):
do an open door briefing, let everybody in on it.

Speaker 16 (27:33):
So I feel like nobody's really asking the question why
New Jersey And the only thing that I can come
up with is that they're just you know, really stepping
up the production values on Jersey Shore maybe and you
know they want some nice wide nighttime drone shots.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Could be could look at this, and.

Speaker 11 (27:51):
Then they can't tell anyone because then that would be spoilers.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Could be anything that's going on. But I mean, that's
that is a hell of a lot of a hell
of a lot of trouble to go to keep that
particular plot line, you know, secret five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
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to the next level.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
So we've achieved a tech first in the world. This
is in regards to the SpaceX Starlink direct to cell
service to we'll talk talk normal people's language here right one,
New Zealand has linked up with Starlink so that we
are able to send text using the satellite even in
the most remote places in the country where we wouldn't
normally have any reception at all. The service has been
trialed in the US with a good level of success

(28:33):
in terms of people being able to get the messages
out and actually be rescued and stuff like that. But
we've expanded on that and this satellite service launched reaches
around forty percent of our most remote areas in the
country and also twenty k's out to see, which is
quite a distance anyway. Now, iPhone news is bad news.
You're going to have to wait because Apple didn't get
their shite together before the launch, did it. So currently

(28:54):
you're only going to be able to use the satellite
service on three of the latest Samsung phones and also
the Oppo find X eight Pro. Did I call it?
Did I give it? The right name. I had to
double check because I didn't know what an OPO was
on until you know.

Speaker 16 (29:09):
What the third most popular brand of the phone in
this country was.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Because we were at the Christmas party and you got
your phone out, did new Glenn, and you said it's
an Opo And I said, what is that?

Speaker 19 (29:18):
Now?

Speaker 17 (29:18):
Again?

Speaker 1 (29:18):
A hippo?

Speaker 14 (29:19):
What?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
And I did that boomer thing where I had literally
no idea what he was talking about. But anyway, now
I do, and now you do too. And if you've
got one of them, like Glenn, he's going to get
rescued when he's out trapped on the Milford tracking. I'm
completely stuffed as it is. Hither ghetto, get yourself, get
over yourself. Chris Penk said no, he's the minister, and
no is the answer. See how Pauline parented. Nick Taffley

(29:42):
from ASP is going to talk us through the GDP numbers,
which will be out in just a matter of a few hours,
Just a few more hours to find out if we're
in our third little recession, Adrian or we're very excited.
He'd be like, did I get a trifector? Because I
went for one? But did I get three? So we'll
find out about there. We've got some good news though
we're probably through the worst of it. And then Rick
Extanford on that compo package for the Late Lake Alice victims.

(30:04):
And after eight Mark Hadler will talk you through that.
News TOGS will.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
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see Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities,
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Speaker 3 (30:21):
There'd be good morning. So the week of grim economic
news continues today. We're going to get the GDP data
later this morning and it is expected to tell us
that we are back in recession for the third time
in two years. Asb's chief economist Nick Toughley is with us.

Speaker 14 (30:33):
Now, Hey, Nick, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Here, Merry Christmas to you two. Are you also picking
a fall of about zero point four percent?

Speaker 20 (30:40):
Yeah, we've got zero point four percent, the market consensus
about mine and zero point two and that's where the
Reserve Bank is.

Speaker 14 (30:48):
The thing we've got to be mindful of.

Speaker 20 (30:49):
Is that there's also some revisions coming along, so that
that could mean that what we think happened in September
that even could be a little bit out. So just
watch for quite a lot of quite an eventful relief.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
So if it does come through like that, are we
looking at potentially manufacturing having quite a big pullback. But
we are being saved a little bit by the farmers
who are dragging us through this.

Speaker 19 (31:13):
It's a little bit like that.

Speaker 20 (31:14):
Look, we've got got all that retail pressure, the construction
sector pressure, and that's flowing through the manufacturing before you
even add on the impacts of the electricity challenges that
we had over the quarter as well, where you had
quite a bit of shuttering of some of our sort
of large manufacturers as well, and the electricity sector was
basically burning anything expensive and Flama we refined to generate electricity,

(31:36):
so the value we had out of that sector was
put in miserable too. But yes, really good production coming
through in the dairy side for us. We're looking like
there was a bit of activity picking up in there,
so that's helping that good sector and also a slowing
service sector out.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
So can we say that if we're going to take
some good news out of this, it's that we're through
the worst of it.

Speaker 20 (31:57):
Yeah, I'd say there's two bits of news we can
focus on the good side here. Hopefully this is the
last sort of sustained contraction that we see, and from
here on in it's gradual recovery. And there are the
early signs that we're all feeling a little bit happier
and we found our wallets somewhere. The second thing is
that we likely to see the sort of more complete
revisions coming out that suggest the level of GDP at

(32:20):
the start of this year was nearly two percentage points
higher than what we previously thought, So that basically says,
you know, the economy held up a bit better, our
productivity wasn't quite as bad as what we thought. Having
said that, it still felt pretty tough out there for
a lot of people this year.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yeah, and is it not going to still feel I mean,
even though we're through the worst of it's still going
to feel tough next year because we're looking at pretty
flat growth potentially it's a forecast of about zero point
five percent, and still per capita, we're going backwards, aren't we.

Speaker 20 (32:45):
Well, we think we'll be back into I guess the
heck headline growth coming through with the next quarter and
what started to look progressively more solid next year and
getting out of a per carefitter recession, and it's going
to be a case of more of a gradual turnaround.
One of the big things obviously that's caused the slow
down and the pain has been higher interest rates. They
are on the way down, but because we've got a

(33:05):
lot of people on fixed rate mortgages, it just takes
a while for their impact to flow through, and it will.
It will pick up momentum, just in the short term.
We've had a lot of people fixing for say six months,
so that they sort of hopefully benefit from much lower
rates next year.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
So it's bight of.

Speaker 20 (33:21):
The impact right now, but it'll really pick up next year.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Good Steffan Nikay, thanks very much, enjoy your holiday break.
That's a nick toughly asb's chief economist. Right now, it's
ten past.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Seven together, duplessye Ellen.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
So victims of Lake Alis have finally found out how
much COMPO they're going to be getting. It's either a
one off one hundred and fifty thousand dollars rapid payment
or they can have their case heard and judged and
potentially even get more. The Lead Coordination Minister Erica Stanford
is with us.

Speaker 14 (33:45):
Erica.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Hello, good morning, now Erica, one hundred and fifty thousand
is more than has ever been paid out to victims
like this, But it sounds like some of them are
disappointed because they were expecting millions. Is that right?

Speaker 21 (33:56):
That is right? And now I said yesterday no amount
we are ever going to pay will ever make up
for what happened to children at Lake Alice. And I
also said yesterday that I know that that announcement changed
many lives, and there are many people that are extraordinarily grateful.
But look, we always knew that there was some that
we were going to let down. And that's a hard

(34:16):
part of this job.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
How did you get to one fifty thousand? How did
you decide that?

Speaker 21 (34:21):
Again, really hard call to make because this is really
the first time this has happened. There is no precedent
around the world. There are some other countries who have
paid out for torture, but only a couple and are
very very different circumstances, and they were adults and so
similar sort of amounts. But really it was a tough

(34:42):
call to make because there just isn't a precedent at all.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Is it going to be enough? Are you going to
have enough money, because it looks to me like you've
maybe budgeted for about one hundred and fifty victims. There
may be as many as two hundred out there.

Speaker 21 (34:57):
Again, we don't know how many there are. We have
sort of looked at around about one hundred and twenty
one hundred and fifty, but we really aren't aren't sure.
But I think with that amount we have budget enough.
And that includes the arbiter and all of the costs
as well.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Okay, now does the set of precedent for anybody else
who's caught up in the state abuse inquiry as to
how much they're going to get.

Speaker 21 (35:21):
No, we wanted to be very clear yesterday this is
entirely different and entirely separate. Most of these Lakelis victims
have already received their compensate or their compensation already their redress,
I should say. And this is a new material circumstance
because the state has acknowledged that they were tortured, and

(35:43):
that triggers a separate thing. And this is we looked
at this separately. There are separate things that we considered.
We wanted to make it very clear yesterday in my
remarks that this will have no bearing on what we
think about in the future.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Brilliant, Hey, Eric, thank you very much to really appreciate it.
Eric Stanford, Lead Coordination Minister Chris Pink is awake. They've
got back to us and because we've said, can you
come on, Chris, can you explain to us why you
don't want Peter Horner and you don't want Tucking. I
need to have a double A in there so you
know it gets pronounced properly. Apparently he's unavailable because he's

(36:19):
on parenting duties this morning. And as if to because
at this point you go whatever, but no, he said, no, no,
he is. He left the Gallery Christmas party early last
night because he's on parenting.

Speaker 11 (36:33):
You know what kids be like at this time of year?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Yeah? Is it particular? I mean, look, I'm very early
in this parenting journey. Is it quite bad at this time?

Speaker 16 (36:41):
I saw a woman in the que ahead of me
at the Harvey Norman photo desk yesterday. Yes, and yeah,
that was quite a battle that was going on there.
That was one grumpy kid.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Did the child want her to buy a photo?

Speaker 20 (36:53):
Well?

Speaker 16 (36:54):
No, the child couldn't quite understand why they didn't have
the Christmas cards that they'd been promised. Oh dear, And
that's a whole other story about how bad Harvey Norman,
is it delivering and time for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Man, you know you've got a battle on your hands
when the kid's obsessed with Christmas card for Christmas cards anyway,
So Chris is dealing with that. I mean, my look,
I'm very early on and as I say in the
Parenting Journey, but my advice to Chris is what you
want to do is you just want to put Blue
Eye on in the lounge and you say to the kids.
You give the kids the granola or their porridge or
their toast or whatever it is that you're going to
give them for the brecky. You know, I don't know.

(37:27):
I mean, if you want to help it up, you know,
chuck and chuck some avocado on a piece of vogels
and a couple of slices of tomato. And look, they're
getting a couple of vegetables right there and some nuts
and grains. So that's good work, that's good parenting. And
then you've got the bluey. If you feel bad about
the blue because you're like it's very early in the
day to have screen time, what you want to do
is just mute it and put the captions on and
then they're not watching screen they're reading, so you're doing

(37:49):
reading one hour of reading, plus you're getting your fruits
and grains and all your vegetables. And then while they're
busy reading the blue Ey and eating all that stuff,
you come out and you go to your bedroom and
you take a call from us. That's how it would
work in my house if I just saying if I
was a minister. But as you can tell, I'm not
a minister for obvious reasons. Anyway, maybe in the future
you can think about that and then come on the

(38:09):
show and talk just and by the way, BS, I'm
just going to say this, BS on this story because Chris,
as far as I can see, has given no interviews.
I don't know why he's so weird about it. It's
not even that big deal. He's given no interviews. He
doesn't want to talk about this, so we will never
know why Chris has made the decision he has Quarter
Past the.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
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Speaker 3 (38:31):
Be Morning Heather. What if his parenting duties include a
sick child, then what Well, at that point, I would
say two hours of Bluey and pretty much whatever they
want for breakfast. I think that's okay, like a smoothie
or something like that. Eighteen past seven. Listen, I'm sorry
to do this year, but if you're embarrassed by our
military gear breaking down, you're probably not gonna want to
hear this one. We sent last night an urban search

(38:52):
and rescue team to van Awatu to help them after
the quake, but they, by the looks of things, haven't
got there. And the problem is because the plane caught fire,
or if that, it's not clear that the plane actually
did catch fire, but there was an engine fire warning,
so it might have been about to catch fire, or
might have been catching fire, or might have been at
risk well who knows anyway, made false alarm. Whatever the

(39:13):
thing is, you can't fly when you got an engine
in an engine morning coming through Saxon catch fire. So
this is an old Air Force Hercules because and I
say old as if you didn't already know that it
was old. So the Hercules called got itself some trouble,
so they had to be diverted through to New Caledonia.
So we're going to send a second plane this morning,
Fingers crossed for that one to pick them up and
take them over hopefully they will get there climb.

Speaker 11 (39:34):
We've got a bigger, bigger, yellow digger situation.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
It is one of these there. Yeah, well, I think
we've got a back it. We've got a series of
planes backed up just in case number one, number two,
number three go down on climate change was what we
opened the program with. It doesn't look it doesn't look
like we're gonna get rid of this probably not news
to you. It doesn't look like we're gonna get rid
of coal anytime soon. There is a report out this
morning say that the world's coal use is expected to

(39:58):
hit a new record this year. This year, by the
looks of things, we're going to have burned our way
through eight point seven billion tons of coal across the globe.
And this is largely I mean, of course, there'll be
various reasons for it, unrelated to Ukraine, but largely because
of Ukraine, because of what's happened with the gas supply,
because of the Ukraine wards of course being disrupted and

(40:20):
has pushed up the gas prices. No one wants to
pay inflated gas prices. Turns out there and care about
the climate that much, they just start shoveling the black
stuff into the furnace anyway, So it's not going to
get better anytime soon. This is not a blip. It
looks like we are going to be burning pretty close
to record levels of coal this year twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty six, and possibly twenty twenty seven as well.

(40:40):
The US and the European Union. Their coal power generation
has already set a new record. Coal demand in China
is expected to grow by one percent this year. That's
a new record. India is expected to see demand grow
by more than five percent to one point three billion tons.
Now that level is important because that is a level
previously only China had ever reached, but now India is

(41:01):
going to reach that, so that's a record. So what
I'm trying to say to you is, don't feel too
bad about that massive coal stockpile that we've got at
Huntley and that we're going to be working our way
through next year, because apparently everyone's doing it.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Seven twenty one, The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio how It By News talks at.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Be seven twenty three listen. I think one of the
most surprising things about that Judge allegedly yelling at Winston
Peters in the Northern Club is that she still has
her job. Now, look, I want to be clear, I
don't want this judge to lose her job, and I
don't even want to be seen to be calling for
the scalp in this case. It's not what I'm doing.
I'm just pointing out that she should lose her job

(41:43):
over this, because what happened was actually quite serious. We
are talking here about a judge yelling, not denied by
the way, by her yelling at the deputy Prime minister,
the second most senior politician in this country and accusing him. Also,
this is not denied, accusing him of lying in front
of a group of people. Now you flip that around
and imagine it happened the other way. It's a senior

(42:04):
minister doing the same, a senior minister yelling at a
very senior judge and saying they're lying in front of
a room of people, and tell me that that minister
keeps their job. There is no way on God's Earth
that that minister keeps their job. No way it would
be tolerated, because no government, no Prime minister, would want
to be seen to be tolerating that kind of behavior.
Now it's got to be the same for the judiciary.

(42:26):
The judiciary cannot be seen to tolerate verbal attacks on
ministers of government, and particularly right now. I mean a
few years ago, maybe it wouldn't have mattered as much,
maybe we would cut them away bit of slack. But
right now there is actually considerable tension between the judiciary
and the government, to the point of it actually boiling
over at times. We have got courts and lawyers taking
cracks at Parliament. We've got Parliament passing multiple laws to

(42:48):
reign and judges. We've got accusations at of the White
Tongue Tribunal over reaching. We've got Shane Jones making comments
about so called activist judges and stuff like that. There
is a real concern at the moment that committee, which
is the mutual respect between the two, is breaking down.
Comedy is fundamental to a democracy like ours working. They
have to respect each other and they have to be

(43:08):
seen to be respecting each other. It is so bad
for the judiciary to be perceived to be this hostile
towards the current and government that I cannot see how
Emma Aitkin keeps her job seven twenty five. Now, this
is embarrassing for stats New Zealand. I don't know if

(43:28):
you've been following this, but there was a little bit
of a bit of a kerfuffle about how many people
lost their jobs in Wellington. So apparently Stats New Zealand
have been going around telling everybody that twenty thousand people
in Wellington have lost their jobs. They have just had
to correct that and in fact it's not twenty thousand
people who've lost their jobs. It's two thousand people have

(43:51):
lost their jobs, which feels like quite a big mistake
for the numbers guys to be making. So what that
means is the actual number of job losses is a
drop of about a two percent in the capital, not
a drop of eleven percent. They're blaming coding errors, which
is what I would I would do that as well.
I'd say it's a coding era that caused that trouble.
It was nothing to do with me as a coding era.
But I think that if we've got the guys who

(44:12):
are doing the numbers in this country unable to actually
properly do the numbers in this country, we have to start.
I mean, this is if you were if you will worry,
if you were like I'm not convinced by Erica telling
the kids that they have to go and do an
hour of maths at school at primary school. Is this
not evidence that the kids not need to do an
hour of maths at school at primary school? When even
your statistics in New Zealand people can't quite figure out

(44:34):
what's going.

Speaker 16 (44:34):
On so much for AI, surely you couldn't you just
plug that under chet GPT.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
You could probably just do that. You could probably just
I don't know, you could. That feels like a strong
case for a consultant. How do you feel about that?
I feel like I would. I would send some money,
spend some money on the consultants, get them in to
help old stats New Zealand out heither g High performance
sport funding can be brutal. Do as well as we
do in a smaller mainly individual duo sports get more money,
don't do well, which is all is really tough for

(45:00):
the large team sports, and your funding is slashed for
three years, making it even tougher to achieve, and then
the new athletes to the sports suffer. This is of
course the fact that high news high what's it high
performance sport news has been handing out the cash right
We're going to talk to them after the news about this.
Nothing for surfing, nothing for football, cuts for the rugby
sevens boys because they didn't do well enough at the

(45:21):
Olympics and the Calm Games and so on, which feels
like if you haven't off year, you get punished and
it gets even harder. We'll just talk to them about
whether this is the right model for the funding. News
Talks head.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
By news Bold Opinions. Heather Duplicy Allen on the mic
hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed to intrigue
and use talks dead.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
B I'm sorry, Heather, but that judge is not fit
to sit in her seat and pass judgment over me
sitting caught and look at her and all you'll see
is the yobbo with power. This is the trouble as
well that they've got right. If you know that the
judge has been behaving like this in private, it's kind
of hard to respect the situation if you're sitting in court,
or if you're reading any of their judgments or anything
like that. Anyway, listen, after eight o'clock, Mark Hadlow is
going to be with us. Mark, of course, being one

(46:11):
of the Dwarves and Lord of the Rings. Really well
known actor. He did a few years back. He did
a stage show called Mammal which was like middle aged
men and lycra and it was immensely popular. He's now
done a sequel to it called Grommel, which is I
think grumpy old men or something like that in lycra,
which frankly sounds like it would be quite a hoot

(46:32):
because there is nothing worse than a grumpy old man
who also is a road cyclist. So we'll talk to
him about it after eight o'clock. Right now, it's twenty
two away from eight. So as always, there have been
winners and there have been losers. In the last round
of high performance sport funding and the lead up to
Alay's Olympics, one hundred and sixty three million dollars is
heading to thirty six different sports. High Performance Sport in

(46:53):
New Zealand, director Steve chewers with us now morning.

Speaker 19 (46:56):
Steve, Good morning, How are you.

Speaker 14 (46:58):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I'm very well. Thank You had some tough calls in you, didn't.

Speaker 19 (47:01):
You We did. Yeah. As you said in your intro,
there's always sports that are happy at the end of
this process and some that are disappointed and that's that's
very unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Yeah, now tell me why you're not funding hockey.

Speaker 19 (47:14):
Well, we are funding hockey, so to be clear, they're
still a decent dunk hold in the end government money
and behind hockey, but it's a significant drop that we're
about half. Yeah about that speaking, it's a difficult it's
a very difficult decision for hockey. But over a long
period of time we haven't had the success that this
investment is seeking and we've had to make some tough

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calls because we had requests for about fifty seven million
and we had lest of forty Just other forty one
million has distribute well.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Because the thing about hockeys, Hockey's never done particularly well,
has it. So are you looking at it over as
series of events rather than just the last one.

Speaker 19 (47:50):
Well, we look past performance as an informer of what's
going to happen in the future, but we're really looking
at what's in front of us now and we know
that you know, New Zealander's got inspired when we went
Paris and we won twenty medals, ten cold we're the
day we were won three, which was pretty magic. Those
are very high achievements for a country. Of our sives
we can repeat anything like that. We really need to
hone in on those sports, those athletes and teams that

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are tracking towards top eight and podium in LA and
at the moment we don't believe hockey are in that category.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
But what about rugby sevens because and this is the
men's not the women. The men had a bit of
a bummer, but generally we do quite well in it.
So why cut their funding?

Speaker 19 (48:28):
Well, again, we just don't have enough money to do that.
We would like. We certainly celebrate what the bat provency
of us have done. They're our most successful team sport.
I think certy in the Olympic a violent and it's
not full stop with new Yond the men, they've won
one medal of the three Olympics. We believe they're still
a medal prospect, which is why we still left a
reasonable amount of support them behind them, which other sports

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where we look at it and go that's quite a
big number. But they had to take a cat as
well because they didn't achieve in Paris.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Yeah, and what about tennis because I see you guys
bumped up the funding. What are you seeing there that
looks so promising to you, Well.

Speaker 19 (49:01):
There's a potential woman's double peering there that's very exciting,
and that's a campaign will monitor as we go through.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Which one is that one?

Speaker 19 (49:10):
Aaron and Sulan?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Okay, so possibility. Do you think they're of something actually
developing and it becoming a big thing.

Speaker 19 (49:18):
Well, you've got someone ranked I think number one and
one of the doubles and someone ranked them the top
especially have we've got their information in front of me?
Sorry either, but yeah, new pairing and really have money
is only to give them a chance to play together
more often and to have some individual peering.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Coach Steve, is this the best way to do it?
Because it feels to me like, you know, if you're
having a bit of a like let's take the example
of the men's rugby, right the sevens. They generally do
really well, they have a bit of an off period
and then their funding gets cut, which just will make
that so much harder to climb out of it. So
it almost compounds the problem.

Speaker 19 (49:50):
Well, and obviously we're always looking at to see if
we can do these things better either, and I don't
think there's ever a right answer. I mean, we had
we had the meetings with over fifty organzations which needed
to be moderated. And as I say, you know, we
were a number of way way more of what we
had to distribute. So our teams went through I think
maybe a dozen iterations of what the funding general might

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look like, and in the end we had to say, actually,
there's no perfect answer here either. I mean in the
sense of the decision for men that mean three Olympics
in one one metal. We believe there were prospects. We're
backed them with some funding and not the extent that
they got last time. Consequences are not performing.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Now let's talk about the sports. Esports is not a
sport as it Steve Well.

Speaker 19 (50:34):
We categorize it as a sport, but it's not. Actually,
Oh that doesn't matter for you. You can have your
own views. I mean, certainly more us on then the
group considered esport to be a sport. I mean there
are three categories of esports too. You've got to remember,
you know, there's the simulated games as traditional gaming, and
then there and then there's what we now I think
they can think about it. Once were cycling when the

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sleek so you've got people singing on bikes and the IRGs. Yeah,
it said other electronically, it's definitely a physical activity, and
you've got those that play the virtual games. So we
don't it's not an issue for us that whether it's
a spot or not. We just don't believe that they
are currently tracking towards.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
How does it be classified as a sport? I mean,
why why is that a sport?

Speaker 19 (51:13):
And I don't know scrabbles not well that you could
ask people of higher authority than mine. The io c
are certainly deems it to be a sport. They're holding
an Esport Olympics every two years, so we're specified it
as a sport, and I would say, this is the
name I was looking for that the cycling, you know,
people sitting on a wind wheel or on an electronic
cycle doing a virtual race, that's most definitely physical activity. Yeah,

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a couple of other versions of people might question, but
that's the something they hither say.

Speaker 15 (51:41):
We didn't.

Speaker 19 (51:42):
We didn't make the decision around esport based on their
classification of a sport or not. We'd love to bear
their athletes coming through what we know is going to
happen at the Games, which is not very much yet,
and decided we didn't have the funds to back them.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
So in the future, given that we classified as a sport,
if they do well in their in their their E sport, Olympics, whatever,
it is potential for us to actually fund them. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (52:02):
Yeah, And in fact, we've said to everybody who we
haven't been able to fund this time around, we'll keep
a relationship open because there's a lot of really good
work going on here. The sports guys are really well organized,
they've got a great program, and we're sorry we can't
help them at this particular point in time. The things
change and on we get some more funding. Then were
very able to a conversation as we were during the

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last cycle. We made some adjustments between Tokyo Embarrasson and
many of those paid off for us.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Okay, Steve, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Steve Chu,
High Performance Sport New Zealand director, hither the sports are
not a sport? Heither did you know that bridges considered
a sports as well? I just wondering about categorization of
what does the sport has maybe perhaps a little bit wide.
What do you think I mean? It's not like I'm
trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out why
I don't think these things are sports, but I just
think it's it's probably ultimately a lack of understanding of
what makes this thing. So I don't understand what makes

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you very special. If you sit with a PlayStation in
your hand and toggle it with your thumbs, I mean,
I feel like I am a boom. I know that
in my spirit that I know that this is a
generational thing. You try and tell a tell one of
the young ones whatever they call gen zs or whatever.
This They probably disagree with me entirely, but I can
see the effort that's being made in order for, you know,
somebody to do the high jump or run really fast

(53:15):
on a ragbyfield. Can't quite see the effort that's going
on when you're doing the esports. Prince Andrew, just a
quick update on this clown. He's pulled out of another
family event in the wake of this Chinese spy drama.
He's not going to attend the Royal family's Christmas lunch
at Buckingham Palace, which I think is actually overnight our time.
Apparently the officials had nothing to do with this. It

(53:35):
was he and Fergie. They were having a big old
row about it and Fergie finally persuaded him it would
be best if he didn't attend the family lunch. So
Andrew is increasingly being cut out of all the things.
And as I said the other day, I feel like
Charles might just want to cut him out of everything
from here on in, because he's clearly quite a liability.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
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Speaker 3 (54:00):
Sa'd be look if you were wondering when Steve was
talking about the tennis he was talking about the doubles team,
and if you thought, I don't who are these people?
These people.

Speaker 19 (54:11):
Aaron and Sulu.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Yes, Sulu. Sulu would be Lulu soon. So just so that,
just so that you know what we're put I'm glad
he knows what I'm glad he knows what he's doing.

Speaker 11 (54:21):
Regard Ditric. Just just clearing that up.

Speaker 19 (54:24):
No, no, just the other the burdens Aaron and.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, Lulu anyway, never mind. Look, he's new to the job.
He's been doing rugby for a very long time. John
Marsden has died. Very sad news. Now John Marsden, you'd
be like, oh, who's that guy. That's the guy who
wrote The Tomorrow When the War Began series, which I
would venture a guess, is a series of books. There
was about seven of them, wasn't It came out in
the early nineties, So I would say, came out in
the early nineties. Teen fiction. What is that? That kid's

(54:50):
born in nineteen eighty so it's pretty much anybody born
from nineteen eighty on would So you're talking about forty
forty three ish and under should know these books. Teen
fiction seri. He's set in Australia when the Southeast Asian
country comes and invades. It was gripping, amazing stuff. I
just spent a lot of time at the library when
those books came out at secondary school. Anyway, that's so good.

(55:12):
I saw one the other day in an opshop and
the Corimandel and are bullshed. So I'm starting the collection
for the kid to read in about ten years or thereabouts. Anyway.
John Marsden, after he wrote all of these books, went
on to found a couple of schools and he was
a principal. I think it was a principle at one
of the schools, was teaching at schools and stuff. Anyway,
one of the schools sent a letter to the parents
confirming his death, saying he died at his desk at home,

(55:34):
doing what he loved, which was writing. Ten away from at.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
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real estate news talks.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
There'd be Heather.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
If darts, pool and bowling are considered sports, then esports
are also sports because it involves very fine motor skills
and reaction times. Thank you. Actually were going to talk
about darts later on seven away from eight. So the
House Parliament has wrapped up for twenty twenty four and
the tradition right there are political jibes aimed at opponents
with a bit more levity and a little bit we

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holiday year attached to them. Chris Luxon got to go first,
mister Speaker.

Speaker 22 (56:08):
I have to say the most troubling part of Chris
Hippins's recent labor conference must have been the flight back
to Wellington. During the safety briefing, flight attendants had to
intervene because he instinctively started blowing into the mouthpiece for
more inflation.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
He doesn't think Hipkins has done very much this year.

Speaker 22 (56:25):
Now, to my colleagues on the other side of the House,
the leader of the opposition Chloe Swarbrick that she is
a common Between those two statements.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
There was a dig at the Maori party's capital gains tax,
which is just asking for it, isn't it. And then
the Greens were in the firing line and.

Speaker 22 (56:39):
I have to say a few folks went so opposed
to it. We would have happily, happily added Darlinge Tana's
resignation to our fast track lists.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
And deservedly there were digs at the media.

Speaker 22 (56:53):
Thank you for always holding me to account and for
always being so fair and balanced. I wish you a
very happy and safe holiday. Please do take as.

Speaker 19 (57:06):
Long as you need.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
And then of course the coalition partners.

Speaker 22 (57:10):
Shane Jones, he's been mischievous this year, but we've worked
out why he's the first person to get on the
naughty list so that he can get a lump.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Of cold.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
And he had a dig for Act as well.

Speaker 22 (57:22):
Secret Sander with ACT this year was a disaster, though
they wouldn't stop taking credit for every present.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Hapkins obviously got his turn to respect.

Speaker 23 (57:34):
Didn't see on Facebook this morning a very.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Cruel meme which compared.

Speaker 16 (57:38):
The Prime Minister to the Captain of Thy Titanic, and
I actually thought, hang on.

Speaker 11 (57:43):
To that's really really unfair. The captain of the Titanic
had a ship which this government hasn't.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
The fairy announcement was obviously always going to be very
very easy fodder for him.

Speaker 16 (57:55):
What does he think Nichola Willis is more likely to
replace next year the Inter Island Fair or him as
Prime Minister.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Now, obviously Shane Jones wasn't going to let them keep
talking without putting himself in the firing line.

Speaker 22 (58:07):
To all of the Farno and families of all MPs
who make huge sacrifices, and well, his family makes a
sacrifice every day just for being his family.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Now are you ready for it? Because it's coming Chloe,
total down buzz.

Speaker 23 (58:23):
And I know that these end of view debates are
supposed to contain a few good jabs and jokes, but
missus Feaker, this game sucks, and Missus Viggar, the people out.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
There know it cool. So she was the cool kit
who turned up and just ruined the party. Then it
was David's turn.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Mister Vigger.

Speaker 24 (58:45):
I'm a little bit indignant to say that this is
my eleventh adjournment debate speech. I've been here so long
I can remember when Chloe Swarbrick was actually fun.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
And then of course he wasn't going to let the
thing from lux and the secret Santa joke just go.

Speaker 11 (59:01):
Now, let's just clear this up.

Speaker 24 (59:02):
You see, I actually thought it was a game of
past the parcel because there seemed to be a layer
of blue rapping over all the pink wrapping that we've
been trying to give to the public.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
And of course Winston. You can't end without a little
bit from Winston, who got into a sparring match obviously
with Rahwity white Ts.

Speaker 25 (59:18):
So stand back and watch when you declare Warnerts, you're
gonna reply that's coming next year. So you haven't good
Christmas because you'll need at sunshine down and your beg
loud mouth.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
It's not helping you longer.

Speaker 5 (59:31):
It ain't got some idea, but.

Speaker 25 (59:32):
He was his mouth that the windblow's tongue around is
gonna make some sense.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
But Leavable never seen the lightsman.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Oh, everybody's having such a good time, weren't they. And
then Chloe and then Winston and Wey the usual suspects. Right,
We're gonna have a chat to Mark Hadlow, who is
gonna be with us straight up to eight o'clock. Mark,
of course, the Lord of the Rings will chat to
him about that house stage going the stage shows in
New Zealand and I think actually his house got hit
by a MUD's slide recently, so we have a chat
to him about you. One thing that's going on in

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Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Dashing through this now seven pass state. Now most Keywis
will know the name Mark Hadlow. He's a New Zealand
Order of Merit recipient. He's been in King Kong, He's
been in the Hobbit. He's an actor, comedian, singer, writer,
producer and director. Frankly, what is he not? He's also
a grumpy old man in Lykra at least on stage.
You might remember back in twenty seventeen, Mark had a

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one man show called Mammal, which was middle aged man
and lycra It's all about the male midlife crisis. And
you know turning to the road cycling to relieve it
and stuff. He's now giving us Mammal two Gommel, which
is grumpy old man and Lira, and it's coming to
the Isaac Theater next year. Mark Hadlow is with us now, Mark.

Speaker 14 (01:00:57):
Morning and how I I'm very well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Thank you. You've done the show before having you've done
it in Nelson, didn't you.

Speaker 26 (01:01:04):
We opened it Nelson about three weeks ago, and I
loved it. Yeah, it was great being back in the saddle.

Speaker 14 (01:01:11):
Oh, dear Lordie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
When you say back in the saddle, do you mean
back in the saddle on stage or literally cycling saddle?

Speaker 14 (01:01:19):
No, cyclingaddle.

Speaker 9 (01:01:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:01:20):
Those show opens with a big sequence, so it's really
interesting getting back on Pinerello again. Oh my goodness, mate,
are you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Are you spending long enough in the saddle to get
us all butt?

Speaker 14 (01:01:32):
It's was very sore. It was very short.

Speaker 26 (01:01:34):
When I got back on for rehearsals, I said to
Greg Recooper, I said, who was directing?

Speaker 14 (01:01:38):
I said, Greg, I don't think I can do this again.

Speaker 26 (01:01:40):
It's too sore, It said, Just man up, will you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You haven't gone for one of those gel padded butt things.

Speaker 14 (01:01:48):
No goodness, you know that's cheating.

Speaker 26 (01:01:50):
That's very cheating, Yes, because you've got to develop your
your bottom muscles. If you don't, it ends up you
can't make contact with the seat. And the show is
a little bit quick to get in and off the saddle.
So I got a jel seat. I might slip off.
It would be really painful down in amongst the engineering
of the set, and I would be crushed.

Speaker 14 (01:02:10):
So I've got to be careful.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
So I take it from the fact that your butt
muscles are not actually attuned to the bike, you're not
actually a road cyclist at all.

Speaker 26 (01:02:17):
In real life, I am a little bit not as
much as I used to be, but I am about
to get back into it. There's some lots of pressure
now for me to go and do some promotional stuff
and Scotti Brown and I have been read to a
sort of a pilot for a little TV thing called
to a Demotwo, which is going to be very exciting.

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We're very excited about that.

Speaker 20 (01:02:41):
Mark.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I'd love to get into road cycling. I really would
like to, but it freaks me out. I just get
maybe I'm consuming too many stories about people being knocked
off their bikes, But do you not worry about.

Speaker 26 (01:02:50):
It, nah, because you've got to have a bit of
common sense and you just ride sensibly. I remember when
I was a kid. You ride on the left hand
side of the road. That's where you ride. You don't
ride in pairs, you don't ride in threes, you don't
ride in fours. You just obey all of the road rules.
Simple mark.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
What about the numpties in the cars? You're going to
open their door just as you come and then you're
into them.

Speaker 26 (01:03:13):
Well, that's common sense awareness. You seekw parked up on
the left, you know, you look in it, you see
if someone's there. You've just got to apply common sense seriously,
that's it.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
And also not being numpty.

Speaker 26 (01:03:25):
Yeah, you've got to put it complete care for your
click and where where and where like, because chafing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Is not worth it.

Speaker 14 (01:03:32):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
You're actually turning into quite the road cyclist here. Well, okay,
so if you if you are a road cyclist, which
is what at least one half of the content of
the show, what about the other half, which is having
a midlife chrisis?

Speaker 14 (01:03:41):
Half? Have you had enough?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
I was just say, have you had the midlife crisis
as well?

Speaker 14 (01:03:47):
Oh? I had those. I've had three or four along
the way.

Speaker 26 (01:03:50):
I think this time it's about a little bit of
the older perspective from Wayne.

Speaker 14 (01:03:56):
Did you see the show? Do you see Mammal?

Speaker 10 (01:03:58):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Never?

Speaker 26 (01:03:58):
Okay, Well, in in Mammal we had other characters. Was
called Wayne who had a very very distinctive riding pedling
technique and it was very funny. It is very funny,
and it's actually based on someone I knew when I
joined a peloton when I was doing the Hobbit. That's
how us all eventuated. I was doing the Hobbit, I

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went with Titling and I met Mike. Mike had this
extraordinary peddling style, and I said, that's got to be
in the show, so we copied it. So he'll probably
assume me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
One day for Oh, what's the pedlock style?

Speaker 26 (01:04:31):
It's called knees a kimbo?

Speaker 14 (01:04:33):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Is it knees splayed? I do that?

Speaker 14 (01:04:37):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Is that not?

Speaker 15 (01:04:39):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:04:39):
That's okay, I do it all the time. Maybe we
should go riding sometimes together and compare his blade knees.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Well, now I'm going to be really embarrassed about this.
Speaking of the Hobbit, have you got anything to do
with what's going on at the moment with coming back
around and doing all the lording stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:04:58):
No, I haven't.

Speaker 26 (01:04:59):
I've heard of it, but no, not really. I don't
think they're anywhere near any pasting decisions or whatever. And
I'm not I'm not at I don't know anything about it.
I'm too busy trying to get Gomel off the of
the off the cab rank. So you know that's going
pretty well. So, I mean, obviously it's exciting. Heck, anything

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that come out of some of that stable is wonderful.
I mean anything now do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
It's still got the appeal that it had back in
the day.

Speaker 26 (01:05:28):
I think so, because you know, I mean anything to
do with Lord of the Rings of the Hobbit, you
know we're talking about. You know, the fan base in
itself is enormous. There's millions of people who the writing
and let alone, what what Peter and Fran and Sulivan

(01:05:49):
can come out with, of course involving Andy Serkis So
you know, I mean, it's a great it's a great start.
That's that's a core basis to kick anything off. And
I think anything about anything that's produced or in New
Zealand in the film industry has to be. It has
to be an advantage, you know, as long as New
Zealanders are involved obviously, which is a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah, you need the work. Add it's queer to bring
the work here. We'll take a quick break, come back
to you just very shortly. That's Mark Hadlock eight thirteen.

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Talks a B sixteen past eight and we're back with
Mark Hadlow, who is bringing mambl two to Stage Buck.
How's it going, by the way with theater at the moment.

Speaker 14 (01:06:31):
That's pretty hard.

Speaker 26 (01:06:33):
Finance is obviously a major concern. Funding has dried up
a bit, well, not ale bit a lot, and people
are being obviously a little bit coy about buying tickets
to get to anything that's live. And you know, the
priority here is making sure whatever we're putting on its quality.
It's got to have you know, significant you know, significant content, gravitas,

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et cetera, if you'd like to call it. And it's
also about professional and we've got to see some talent
and you've got we've got to have work for the
talent that's coming up through musical. I'm seeing a lot
of young actors now, both of all the gen I mean,
of all the diversities coming up, and there's some extraordinary stuff,
but how they get that out there is just really hard.

Speaker 14 (01:07:16):
The outlet. You know something that I'm.

Speaker 26 (01:07:19):
Trying very hard to keep repeating, which is about getting
people into a theater, getting people into any venue. It's
a live entertainment, specifically acting. We're not seeing an awful
lot of it out there, but everyone's trying very hard
to get things up and running.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Do you think that part of what you're battling is
increasing isolation? You know, us us isolating ourselves because we
I mean, you see this with the kids nowadays, right
they just basically go home after school and lie all
evening in their rooms with their phones. And I think
adults are doing it as well.

Speaker 26 (01:07:52):
I think you've hit the nail on the head. I
think it is about that. I think it's some and
with that, and what's coming with that is, of course,
our loss of being able to communicate to each other.
Because we're doing it all through a phone. We're losing
the ability to be able to actually put words together,
to talk to someone, to look someone in the eye
and say, gosh, you look great today?

Speaker 14 (01:08:10):
Or what's wrong?

Speaker 26 (01:08:10):
Can I help you? We're missing a lot of that
from our psyche, our social, our social.

Speaker 14 (01:08:19):
You know, reasoning.

Speaker 26 (01:08:21):
So more communication, and that's what theater does, that's what
we do with I mean shows that, like what we're doing,
Gomble is not about anything other than actually the social
issues that are happening for the older generation as they
get near retirement age.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
This is what Gomble too, Mammal two is about.

Speaker 26 (01:08:40):
And it's some really important stuff about kids, grandparents, about kids, parents,
It's about all that.

Speaker 14 (01:08:49):
And that's about communication.

Speaker 26 (01:08:51):
Boom boom boom.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Speaking of the phones though, So I went and stalked
you on your social media and I didn't realize you
were in the navy.

Speaker 14 (01:08:59):
Yeah still are I know? I? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I How did you get the navy?

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Are you actually trained or like I was.

Speaker 26 (01:09:09):
In the Navy when I left school. I joined the
New Zealand Navy when I was sixteen, went into the
navy three and a half years, left, and then joined
the reserves back in two thousand and seven, I think,
and then and then and then dubiously lost a little
bit of my rank due to a really bad thing.

Speaker 14 (01:09:26):
What did you do? I was naughty.

Speaker 26 (01:09:28):
I went over the top ten. Oh, I can't say
because it's actually it's a Fital Secrets Act.

Speaker 14 (01:09:34):
No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 26 (01:09:38):
No, I went a little bit overboard at a function
I was doing. So I got reprimanded by d c N.
And so I got told to that i'd been naughty.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Did you have too many sherbets?

Speaker 26 (01:09:50):
Yeah, no, no I didn't have too many sherbets, but
most us had a lot of sherbets. And I went
up on the table and said something I shouldn't have said,
and then I got, you know, the deputy check the
Navy was not happy with me, and so I stood
in front of him and I apologized and said, there's
nothing I can say, sir, than I did overstep the mark,

(01:10:11):
and I apologize.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
Well, judging judging by the uniform you had on in
the Instagram picture, you look like you're still pretty senior.
Like it's a pretty flash uniform.

Speaker 14 (01:10:19):
You know.

Speaker 26 (01:10:20):
Well, I think I'm the oldest lieutenant in the ryle
using a Navy reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Just because the Navy uniforms are so flash, it looks
flash than it actually is.

Speaker 20 (01:10:29):
They do look good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Before I let you go, how's your house? Because it's
all got hit by a mud slide.

Speaker 26 (01:10:34):
Oh fine, absolutely fine, And it's beautiful place, beautiful Placetifi
valley of the view when you wake up in the
morning looking across the whole of the able Tasman is
absolutely sensational.

Speaker 14 (01:10:48):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Well, if it's back in order, that's probably because your
wife sorted that.

Speaker 26 (01:10:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. When I get to Auckland with Gommel,
I'm going to ring you and we're going to go
out for a ride seriously and we're going to tour
later in the year. So but chrost Church is going
to get it in February.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
I will do it with you and then you can
judge my leg style for me.

Speaker 26 (01:11:09):
Make wait to see Okay, thanks Heaven, look out.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
To yourself a and have a merry Christmas. That's Mark Hadlow.
Mark's doing Gommal Mammal two, Gomal, Grumpy Old Man and Liicra.
It's going to the isaat Theater in February from February
ten to twenty one, and then after that, as he said,
touring the country as well eight to twenty one.

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Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
The Federal reserve over in the States, by the way,
is just lowered interest rates done. Another cut there by
twenty five basis points, but is signaling that all the
additional rates cuts that everybody's expecting that's going to slow down.
There may not be as many because that's still a
bit worried that the old inflation is going to hang
around eight twenty five now Canada, So a couple of

(01:12:56):
days ago you will recall the Finance minister quit and
since then he's he had a whole bunch of other MPs,
his own MPs and a support party's MPs calling on
him to quit as well. In the face of that.
Given that that's going on, there is increasing speculation he's
going to have to resign at some stage. The question
is what happens from here, and bunch of commentator is
looking at it reckon. There are four outcomes for old

(01:13:18):
mate with the sunny ways. Number one, he could just
go ahead and quit. He's not showing any sign that
he wants to quit, so that's probably not going to happen.
The second one is that he basically hangs on and
wathers the storm and just hopes that this pass it passes.
It's possible, but given the level of I think it's
about a third of his MPs now want him to
quit publicly, that's massive. That's really credibility damaging. So maybe

(01:13:41):
he won't be able to do that. They could call
a no confidence vote on him. If that happens and
he loses, then he would be expected to resign and
that would take them to an election, which he would lose.
But the thing is Parliament has now adjourned for the year,
so they don't come back until at least late January,
so he's okay until then. In terms of a no

(01:14:02):
confidence vote. He could also prorogue parliament to basically buy
him time and avoid that happening. And he actually did
do that about four years ago, so it wouldn't be
all that unusual for him to have a crack at
something like that. So possibly possibly the end of the
sunnyways for my mate Justin Trudeau. And I'll tell you
what I would branch out if he such is my

(01:14:22):
disdain for him. I don't know why we've discussed this
on the show. Such is my dislike that, I reckon
if he quit and I was still pregnant, I'd probably
have a sip of champagne. I will go there. I'd
crack a nice bottle. I'd give the whole bottle to
somebody else, which is just just just just to make
a little just to you know, put it in there, Heather.

(01:14:43):
What the judge said to Winston, he had coming nowhere
near as bad as the drunken Bailey abusing a worker
just doing his job. Don't be selective on who should
be fired or not. Difference between that is judge was angry,
Bailey was making a bad joke. So I don't have
quite the same level of that. You know what I mean.
News is next. I'm just crazy about horses.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Be This is interesting. I just spotted this. There is
at this time of year you get these regular sort
of end of year interviews that everybody in politics does.
And by the looks of things, labor and the Greens
and those guys have all given a round of end
of year interviews and they've talked about working with each
other and it sounds like they are going to be

(01:15:38):
teaming up formally and presenting themselves as some sort of
an alternative government. Labour's been downplaying this. Labors said, oh,
there are that basically confirmed. Yeah, the parties are having
these three way chats. They have chats together, they get together,
they have chats, but it's all very informal and casual.
But then the Greens said, we are meeting regularly as

(01:15:59):
the leadership of the Greens, the Maori Party and Labor
and identifying where those areas are for collaboration and we
take that very seriously and we are formalizing that collaboration
so that we can hold the government to account. Now
I am thrilled about this as a prospect because I
feel like this is because I feel like we're getting
some terrible ideas coming out of the Greens and the

(01:16:21):
Maori Party and the Labor Party, and I feel like
they should get together and we should see just how
terrible their ideas are collectively and constantly be reminded that
if you vote for the Labor Party, you are going
to get the Maori Party, by the looks of things
on current polling, into that government as well. So I
think go for it, formalize that for us. Let us
just see what that looks like, and then we don't
have to really worry too much in twenty twenty six

(01:16:42):
because I ain't nobody going to vote for that. Twenty
two away from.

Speaker 17 (01:16:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Out of the UK. Rod little is with us?

Speaker 15 (01:16:52):
Hey Rod, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
I'm very well? Thank you? Now do you reckon the
government's going to have to change its mind on the
compo with the Waspy women.

Speaker 15 (01:17:00):
I very much hope not. There's no question that the
government was well. The Labor Party in kirstanma particularly were
totally disingenuous leading up to the election. They said that
they would support these women, the Waspury women. These are
women who claimed they were biscled about the rise in
the pension age for themselves and they've all lost out
a lot of money. To that, I say, bolder dash,

(01:17:23):
given that I you know, my pension age rose as
well at the same time, only by one year and
two years. For people ten years younger than me, And
for many years I met men were discriminated against by,
you know, having a pension age five years older than
the women. So I mean, things change, and I think

(01:17:45):
I think an awful lot of is being made of
this in the press and the broadcast media, but I
don't think it has a great resonance with the people
who think, should we really be giving fifty six billion
quit to these women who just think they were misled
a little bit about when their pension age was going

(01:18:05):
to start? And I think there is I think there
would be some resistance to that, which is why to
a degree, Karstarmry is getting away with it. But what
it can't get away with is having said one thing
before the election and another thing afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
So how this is what I failed to understand is
there was a piece of legislation that was passed. How
can these women say that they were mislead? I mean,
was it not publicly available information?

Speaker 15 (01:18:28):
It was publicly available information, but it wasn't terribly well worded,
and you know, we didn't it wasn't in the information
age which we're in now.

Speaker 17 (01:18:38):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:18:39):
It was a piece of legislature which was passed and
there was something about it in the newspapers, but it
wasn't made clear to the women that they were going
to lose out. But it wasn't made clear to me
that I was going to lose out. Yeah, yeah, you know.
I mean millions of other men and other people will
be able to say the same thing. So I just

(01:19:00):
don't think it bites home with the public. What it
does do is convinced the public that maybe can't be
trusted to tell the truth, and we'll say anything to
get elected.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Yeah, it's going to cost a lot of money if
they go through the compost. I can see why you
wouldn't want that to happen. Do you worry about inflation
going up again?

Speaker 15 (01:19:15):
Yeah? Yeah. The interesting thing is that we now have
a monthly inflation figure higher than Argentina's, which is some
incredible feat for the transfer of REGI Ruster have pulled off.
Don't forget over the nine months before the general election,
inflation was coming down with great rapidity, came all the
way down from eleven point five percent until we were

(01:19:37):
down at the two point two percent mark. And ever
since Labor's got in power, it started going up again.
And I can't help feeling when I looked at the
Argentina figures, where there's a bitter kind of ground zero
approach there to state funding of things, that where all
all of us caustic people in the West are going

(01:19:58):
to have this this same battle that the Argentinians have
had about cutting back on the extraordinary amount of money
we're spending on benefits and so on and on civil servants,
and therefore getting ourselves into a position where there is
continuing inflation and nobody doing any work.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Yeah, hey, how's it looking for the snow you're going
to get in white Christmas?

Speaker 15 (01:20:23):
No, No, I've just been looking up the prebc's figures.
We're not going to get a white Christmas. There might
be some snow in the Scottish Islands, and I live
up in the Pennines right on the Scottish English border
in mountains. I am only a mile and a half
away from England's only international ski center, which hasn't seen

(01:20:45):
any snow for nine years. And I remember being brought
up in this neck of the woods, actually on the
coast in Teesside, and we had snow every year, and
there was one year I remember we have snow from
October through to June. Anyone who's goes global warming or
climate change, you know, it really is there the weather

(01:21:08):
today it's twelve degrees you know, in the middle of
the Pennine, in the middle of winter. Things have really changed.
But whatever, with or without the snow, we'll have a
good Christmas. And I hope you and all be your
listeners do too.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Rod, thank you, Merry Christmas to you. I hope you
have a lovely time with me and so on. That's
Rod Little, our UK correspondent bad News, had a look
at the weather forecast for where I'm going to be
in the coramand going to be raining on Christmas Day, right,
Christmas is Wednesday, isn't it. Yeah, Christmas is Wednesday. It's
going to be raining and it's going to peak. The
rain's going to peak at about two o'clock, one o'clock,

(01:21:43):
two o'clock. They're right at barbecue time. So yay. Now,
I said, I was going to talk about darts because
the Darts Championship is going on in London at the moment,
and is what's a long thing like it goes on
for like two and a half weeks or something like that. Anyway,
I was reading about it. I didn't realize you probably
I'm gonna guess that you didn't realize this as well.
There is a condition called dar titus which darts players get,

(01:22:07):
and dar titus is where you cannot throw a dart.
It's really weird. It's happened to a guy called Kevin Painter,
who's a former professional darts champion and other various other
people as well, has thrown darts. He was throwing darts
for almost every day for forty years, no problem throwing
the darts. One almost two million dollars in New Zealand
in prize money, so you know, reasonably good at it.

(01:22:27):
Earlier this year, went to throw the dart, wouldn't leave
his hand. He threw his hand and the dart was
still in there. So dar titus is basically where you
go to throw the dart and you cannot let it go.
And apparently it's caused by anxiety. And you can do
I mean, isn't the mind weird? And then you can
do You can do various things to try and relieve
your anxiety. The most common modern thing is to go
to cognitive behavioral therapy and they do all kinds of

(01:22:49):
weird things that make it tap your head, make you
think through what's causing your anxiety, like various other things
you could do, hypnotherapy, blah blah blah. One guy just
basically stopped throwing with his right hand started throwing there's
left hand. But isn't that weird? I mean, that's a sport.
Isn't it a sports? Not a sport? But if you
get anxiety, that's an actual sport. Quarter two The.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
At b hither.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
I listened to a podcast with Eliza McCartney recently and
she went through a patch where she couldn't jump. Liz,
that's fascinating. Thank you, Glenn sell Us, your Honda, Ronda
sell Us, your Ford Lord, your Nis and Maxima, doctor Ropata.

Speaker 11 (01:23:34):
Can you stop doing this because your.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Red Mahindra, Patrick Gamblinda. Do you know what that is?

Speaker 11 (01:23:39):
Yes, it's burned on my brain and you're giving me
your triggering me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
It's the lyrics. It's the lyrics to the Tina Ad.

Speaker 11 (01:23:46):
We know what the lyrics are.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Well, no, but I've got them. I've got all of
the lyrics.

Speaker 11 (01:23:51):
Why why are you doing this to me?

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Five there are six verses to this, and in fact
I didn't realize this, but the Tina ad that you
hear on the ray video is actually missing two verses
at the front, which so it's actually not we play
a minute here on new SOI.

Speaker 11 (01:24:06):
Well, can we not miss out the four verses at
the beginning as well?

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
Todd from Turner's sent Todd is the CEO. Todd from
Turner's personally sent through the lyrics for me.

Speaker 16 (01:24:17):
Maybe Todd could have a go at singing it and
see if it's any better.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Oh you, honestly, you and your attitude towards this ad.
It's brilliant and this is why Tinas, this is why
Turners is doing so well, because it's a good ad. Anyway,
So that's my maternity leave job, is that I've got
to learn all six verses and then when I come back,
I'm just going to randomly bust them out one day
and make sure that Glenn is listening at that point
and talk to him further. James Cameron, by the way,

(01:24:43):
is going to join that Wellington Power Group vision for Wellington.
Remember us talking about them? I think maybe maybe last week.
These are the guys, whole bunch of luminaries in Wellington,
hospitality owners, Miles Gaisley from Gaiely car Yards, former Mayor's
just a whole bunch of news editors, newspaper columnists, all
kinds of stuff. People who have vision and want to

(01:25:05):
and Bob Jones obviously and money who want to help
Wellington out of the hole that it's in have formed
this group called Vision for Wellington. They've been attacked by Tory,
the mayor and another council member of specifically Ben McNulty
for being right wingers and conspiracy theorists and stuff. It's
going to be hard for them to attack it now
because now they've got old mate James Cameron involved. James
Cameron is going to be Look, they're doing a series

(01:25:27):
of events where they sort of have these town hall
meetings by the looks of things that will be streamed
and stuff online so everybody can get ahold of it
and get involved in stuff and will they will together
they'll have conversations about what to do to make Wellington better.
And James Cameron's going to be doing the first one,
which is going to be in February. This is going
to be I think something of a nock to Tory,
because Tory's big play is now you're just this is
ideological and you come from the others. Have you seen

(01:25:50):
what James Cameron's up to? James Cameron so far from
being a right winger. It's not funny. I mean the
guy does he even eat meat? Do you know what
I mean? Like, he's gone that far. He's gone that
far down what we would call the woke track. So anyway,
Tory will be very upset about it. Look, I hope
she opens the newspaper today and sees that, because that'll
make her feel a bit sad before Christmas, won't it.
Nine Away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Heather dupuy Ellen on them My Costing, Breakfast with the
Range Rover, The Law News.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Togs Dead b Heather. Our weather forecasts very rarely get
the forecast right a week out. I've looked at it
for a long time because I work outdoors and I
have to plan for the week, and I will put
no money on it raining on Christmas Day at this stage.
If they're still saying it two days before then I'll listen.
Thank you for that. You've cheered me up immensely. Six
Away from nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Okay, so it might have been a crushing, humiliating and
debilitating defeat for the Democrats, but at least their nominee
has the good grace to actually be able to laugh
about it. This is Krmla Harris. Of course, she gave
a speech at a community college where she was able
to have a go at herself for all of her
various word salads and random quotes which meant absolutely nothing
during the campaign.

Speaker 18 (01:26:56):
The context in which you exist, Yeah, I did that,
uh huh.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Before. She then later in the speech went on to
very sincerely spout more word salad. In the face of
an obstacle, do we throw up our hands or do
we roll up our swaves?

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
And as we approach.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
I'll tell you what I've always thought. She's a good bird,
terrible candidate, absolutely rubbish, and I suspect not nearly as
smart as she would like you to believe, because that
generally is why people start relying on word salads. But
actually a good bird. Hither I run a darts shop,
and darts is very highly psychological, but darts players make
it far harder on themselves by overthinking things. Don't get

(01:27:54):
me wrong, it's technical all sorts of types of darts
and accessories that are just every nuance. But when we're
helping a customer their perfect darts to suit their throw,
they're often obsessed with things that make little to know
the difference because they're stuck in their consciousness. This is
Dave from Hunt's Darts Forest Hill. Do you know what
isn't that? Isn't that? Basically just anxiety in general, Like
the minute that you the minute you start freshing over things,
you're making it too hard on yourself. Okay, here we go, Glenn,

(01:28:16):
because I put that it's in your head now though,
isn't it? It's stuck in you? What give us your
red Mahindra Jem Belinda Again. Here's how you get rid
of an earworm. Okay. An earworm, by the way, is
when a song gets stuck in your head and you
just can't get rid of it, and in the end
it actually can drive you crazy. Do you know what
I mean? Like can you be falling asleep going oh no,

(01:28:38):
this is not cool. This is how you get rid
of it. The first thing you do is you sing
yourself a different song. But you can't sing yourself a
different song that's also going to be an earworm, So
sing yourself, God Save the King, because God Save the King,
you know it. But it's also so boring it never
becomes an earworm. This is I'm not making this up.
I read about this in advance for this is how
much I care about Glenn.

Speaker 11 (01:28:57):
Is that because the King is so boring?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Undoubtedly? Yeah. The other way is chew gum. But you
have because you're using the same muscles as you would
for talking or singing, so it will override the song
in your head. But you need to chew it vigorously
like your mum would be disappointed. And you've seeing you
chewing it like that.

Speaker 16 (01:29:14):
I think you should be chewing gum and bed. You
wake up with it and you're.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Trying to help people in I'm trying to help you here.
So there you go. You've got a couple of options.
I don't know which is worse, walking around chewing gum
like a cow chewing a cud, or singing God Save
the King out loud to yourself or frankly at all
because it is a very boring song. Anyway, listen, we'll
be with you tomorrow. Enjoy the rest of your day.
Have a lovely one news storms thereb.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
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