Full Show Podcast: 19 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most powerful
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome today, common Sense Friday or common Sense Thursday as
it really is. Census has gone. Inflation figures will be
published monthly. We get melatonin over the counter now, also
carbon auction that went nowhere. Rob Penny on redemption ahead
of the Super Rugby final, tim and Cator due the week.
Katherine in European to Brady does the business from the
UK tasking we'll come to the day seven past six

(00:31):
move of the week. I reckon Housing Minister Chris Bishop
dropped the bombshell on local body operators yesterday that the
Government's decided to give them the power to intervene in
local body decision making run housing. Mind you, we could
argue scrapping the Calamitus census was a good move or indeed,
I'm a massive fan of reporting inflation data on a
monthly basis, sort of making us look like a first
world country. All good decisions, I would have thought, But

(00:52):
as regards counsels and housing, in the broader interests of
the small country finally getting its fiscal act together. This
move cannot come soon enough. Simple truth is we're over counseled.
We have ludicrous numbers of local do good as and
vast array of fivefdoms making decisions that may or may
not make any sense locally, far less incorporating themselves into
the biger national picture. Part of the problem is too

(01:13):
often counsels have not been up to much. Too many
councils a little with acriminy in infighting, progresses stalled or
watered down, or major workers ignored in favor of more
headline grabbing material that makes the local representatives look good.
Not all, of course, but too many tarong at Wellington,
christ yurt to Invercargo. The infighting and dysfunction now legendary.
What you can say about central government that you can't

(01:33):
say about local government is most of us took part
in the democratic process, ie we voted, and as a result,
this government, rightly or wrongly, has a mandate to get
on and do stuff, mainly stuff that got cocked up
by the previous government. If there's been a constant theme
of this current government, even from its broad based supporters,
it's that they haven't done as much as they might have.
They've got plans and ideas and announcements and KPIs. What

(01:56):
they don't have is a vast array of results, tangible
things that have been changed, leading us to quite clearly
being better off. It would appear with the bishop announcement
that message and lack of traction is finally hitting home.
And they sat around the cabinet table and worked out
that they've been in well, they've got about a year left.
I reckon to put some major runs on the board
so that election time is about delivery and not promises.

(02:18):
The country basically is too small for this. Many councils
and committees. A lot of decisions have major national economic implications,
of course, and as such central government has or should
have a say, or they'll hate it. Of course they'll
nash and wale and known about local democracy. But guess
what big picture economic success is more important. The big
picture generally is more important. The national story is more important.

(02:41):
Christ Juts learned that last week over their intensification scrap
which lasted years cost them millions, that this government is
serious and on a central v local head to head,
only one side is coming out on top.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Main thing flying this morning is regards the US and
Iran as whole. Here as Trump plays a game of
guess what I'll do?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Nixt you know, I seriously think I'm going to answer
that question.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
And what time exactly?

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Sir, sir?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Would you strike it?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Would you please inform it.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
So we can be there and watch.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even
do it.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
The HOTEP, who apparently isn't a bunker, is issuing warnings.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
So long America getting involved in this would be one
hundred percent to its detriment. The damage it would suffer
would be much more than what Iran would possibly suffer.
The damage to America if it gets militarily involved, would
be an irreparable damage, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Now the israelis looking for a big bomb help from
the US. We need America for one purpose.

Speaker 7 (03:43):
There is a big facility in Fudo. We don't have
the capabilities to destroy from the earth. The Americans have
better capabilities to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
From the air. There is the question that was ruised
by Toss Together yesterday as to whether the Iranians actually
are isn't it who keeps claiming nuclear capable?

Speaker 8 (04:02):
We could not see, we could not affirm that there
is any systematic effort in Iran at the moment to
manufacture a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
That blows from the IEA. Now meantime on the straits
of Israel, are they incompetent?

Speaker 9 (04:17):
I want to finish with Iran when people all the
tourists come to Israel now not tourists.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Helloy like, yeah, this is Isa. You know you are saved?
Hear Okay. In Britain, the HS two which I mentioned yesterday,
because of a couple of contractors. They've been dubbed them
for dodgy dealing. Anyway, today turns out there's another delay
to who knows when.

Speaker 10 (04:35):
Where there are inefficiencies.

Speaker 11 (04:37):
We will root them out where further ministerial interventions are needed.
I will make them without fear or favor. HS two
will finally start delivering.

Speaker 12 (04:47):
On our watch.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Remember this thing was announced in two thousand and nine.
Finally news from the largest jewelry heist in US history.
Seven men have been charged. Now this was July three
years ago. They got seventy three bags of golden diamonds
and rubies and emeralds and watches from the armored truck
in California, one hundred and sixty five million bucks worth.
Now only someone of it has been recovered. The other
problem is the Feds know who they're after, hence they've

(05:11):
charged seven people. But the problem is four of them
are still out there, so they're still looking. Use of
the world of nineties? Are Japan no good?

Speaker 8 (05:19):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Imports are falling seven point seven percent in May, exports
to the US are down eleven point five percent, and
exports generally have dropped at their sharpest pace in some
eight months. So concerns over Japan at the moment. Twelve
past six.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
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Speaker 2 (05:41):
Got an inflation read from UK. UK is one of
those countries that puts out inflation on a monthly basis.
Wouldn't that be interesting to be able to do? Oh
we are at last. Anyway, they came in as expected
at three point four in May fifteen past six. Do
you haven't funds management? Greg Smith? Morning to you more
than to my current account deficit. We've still got one,
which is never good, of course, but Nevertheless, it's not

(06:02):
as bad as it once was, which I suppose is good,
absolutely correct.

Speaker 13 (06:05):
So it's narrowed marginally by fifty three million to five
point five billion in the March quarter annually. Some good
news as well. So the deficit is twenty four point
seven that's down from twenty six point two billion, so
it's five point seven percent of GDP, and rating agencies
looked us and said it's too high, So it's good.
That's sort of heading down.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's actually well down.

Speaker 13 (06:24):
From the peak of nine point two percent December tweeny
twenty two. So you know what's driving that, exports, high
commodity prices, farming sectors doing well, and tourism is recovering.
So yeah, the goods deficit narrowed two point six billion,
that was down from one point seven billion. Goods exports
increased two point two billion. Fruit and dairy led the
increased meats doing well. High prices are a tail when

(06:46):
goods imports were still important stuff that was up one
point one billion. So TV's furniture fuels of course as well,
that's going to get more expensive by locks and the
services side. That was a depths of six hundred and
forty five million. That was down from a four seven
million surplus. But yeah, generally it was good news. We
had a net financial inflow four point two billion, their
investment liability position that was down a little bit on December.

(07:09):
So yeah, the trade side's going pretty pretty well, Mike's
We've talked about that. See, still quite a bit of
uncertainty on the domestic front. So the Consumer Conference Index
and Westpac that was largely to ninety one point two,
so still more pessimists than optimists. Obviously, cost of living
still a factor. The economic Outloock Wellington still on the
dol drums, but you know, rurally and touristic areas are

(07:32):
doing well, which is what you'd expect. Obviously the positive
has been interest rates have come down, so yeah, potentially
if they come down further, that will sort of perk
up consumers even further.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And Jerome will have thrilled Donald by not moving. Yeah
that's right.

Speaker 13 (07:47):
So Trump's calling for was calling for two point five
percentage point cut, so hey, we were never going to
get that. The feeds up predictably left rates on hold.
That's for the fourth straight meeting, of course, against a
very complicated backdrop to sort of say the lead. Interestingly
in the statement, no mention of tariffs, no mention of taxes,

(08:08):
and no mention of oil. So I'm figuring that Jerome
Pow will be pretty busy on the subjects during his
press conference. But yeah, you US economy is clearly obviously
slowed down in retail sales. We talked about that, labor
markets softening, and also housing markets as well. So you
look at that it starts in May, were down ten
percent from April data overnight, So yeah, there's an element

(08:29):
of caution there. But interestingly in the statement have said
the uncertain around the outlook has diminished, so it said's
still elevated, and they've all kept also kept in the
forecast for two rate cuts this year, which is a
bit of a surprise to some given inflation. But labor
market's still solid. They see unemployment ticking up slightly the
four and a half percent by the end of the year. Inflation,

(08:51):
of course is ticking up that they see that it's
three percent, that was up from two point seven percent
in their March forecast, and also the economy is flowing
down so vp growth they've trimmed that to one point
four percent from one point seven percent. But yeah, clearly
I had a lot of uncertainly around the outlock. No surprise,
they're adopting a wait and see approach.

Speaker 8 (09:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
I'm glad you raised this because I was filling up
the old rain drover yesterday at two ninety for the
ninety eight and I'm thinking, hang on, this is this
is I'm still in here, But how does this dubtail
with the oil prices doing what they're doing at the moment,
while at the same time OPEC plus are throwing more
oil into the market. Where are we going with this?

Speaker 9 (09:27):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 13 (09:28):
I mean, I suppose the thing is that your OPEC
can always sort of throw more oil at things, So
it does you know, it's quite it's quite an important variable.
Of course, you would think with what oil's done, and
having gone from sort of sixty dollars a barrel to
seventy five dollars a barrel, given what's happening in the
Middle East, that we're going to see some more pressure
at the pump. But it was an interesting to pull
it out from OPEX. So they're literally less bullish about

(09:52):
where the oil price is going. So they see oil
supply growing significantly faster than demand through to the end
of the decades. So they said it two and a
half million barrels a day and a plateauing at around
one hundred and five point five million demand China. That's
a huge oil consumer, of course, but they see their
demand peaking in twenty twenty seven, and that's.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Due to the rapid adoption of evs.

Speaker 13 (10:14):
So evs are on tractor see twenty million in sales
this year, and they reckon that's going to displace over
five million barrels of oil demand per day by the
end of the decades. So you know, I've called the
peak and combustion demand. They say it's all going to
be about petrochemicals. Meanwhile, production capacity is climbing, and of
course we have got open there, so it's going to
climb on one five million barrels per day. They reckoned

(10:36):
one hundred and fourteen point seven million US shall. They
see that peaking as well, and basically saying the market
is going to be well supplied through twenty thirty, although
there is a big caveat and they say that geopolitical
tensions and economic uncertainty pose risks to their forecast. So
that's a pretty big factor. But yeah, there have been
plenty of calls about peakle in the past. It actually

(10:56):
it dates back to the nineteen fifties when geologistic shall
call that out. So your time will tell. The IA
is also jumping the gun again, right, give me some numbers, hey,
So the looks like a positive response to that statement
from the Fed. The Dow is up point three percent,
as is the sm P five hundred, as is the NANSTA. Interestantly,

(11:16):
the SMP is up seven percent since the last meeting,
so in pretty positive despite all what's going on. FITZ
one hundred up point one percent, the stocks fifty in
Europe down point four percent, Nike up point nine percent
in Japan, and the ASEX two hundred down point one percent.
Insedex fifty we were down point one percent twelve sixty
two seven commodities Gold's flat three thousand and three and
eighty eight ounce oil is actually settled a little bit

(11:39):
down eleven cents, seventy four spots seventy three a barrel.
Currency markets key up against the US sixty point four
Australian dollar ninety two point seven, slightly weaker British pound
thirty four point nine upper quarter percent, and we're flat
against the Japanese en. But all eyes are on drone
pals that he will be speaking in about nine minutes time.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And we will have commentary for you. You have a
good one. Make Greg Smith devon Fund's managements. Nintendo, I've
been talking about the switch to They sold three and
a half million of them in the first four days.
Their shares Nintendo shares up forty six percent this year.
How much is that added to the value of the
company thirty nine billion dollars. It's not bad gaming, is it.
Six twenty one you're at Newstalk ZB.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
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Speaker 13 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
A bit of interest in the couple of polls that
are out in the last twenty four hours will come
to that. Indian regulator says there's no major safety concerns
on the Boeing seven eight seven fleet. The play might
be a problem, but the fleet seems to be okay.
And on the broad subject of transport, another one bites
the dust Houri overnight have announced officially that they're walking
back plans to end the internal combustion engine. It was
always going to happen. It was just a matter of
whether they were going to announce it or not. They

(12:48):
said originally by twenty to thirty three they no more
ic engines. Wrong, So they're into developing petrol and hybrid
now for another seven to ten years, at least six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
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Speaker 2 (13:04):
What Iran Israel is not just a problem with the world,
but mega as well. Republicans are very seriously split on
whether the US should have anything to do with this.
Tucker Carlson, he's against it. Ted Cruz, he's into it.
So here's what that sounds like.

Speaker 14 (13:16):
How many people living around? By the way, I don't
know the population at all. You don't know the population
of the country you seek to topple.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
How could you not know that.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't sit around memorizing population tables.

Speaker 14 (13:26):
Well it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
overthrow of the government. Okay, what's the ethic makes of iron?
They are Persians and well presominantly Shia.

Speaker 15 (13:35):
Okay, you don't know anything about Iran, so okay, I'm
not the Tucker Carlson bird on Iran.

Speaker 14 (13:42):
You're a center who's calling the one.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
About the country. Ain't.

Speaker 15 (13:47):
No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 15 (13:53):
Who can't figure out to say, General Solamoni, you don't
believe they're trying to murder Trump?

Speaker 14 (13:58):
Yes, because you're not calling for mil military strikes against
them in retaliation.

Speaker 15 (14:01):
If they really believe that carrying out military strikes. Today,
you said Israel was right with our help.

Speaker 14 (14:07):
Well this you're breaking news here because the US government
last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Faifer
denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on
Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.

Speaker 15 (14:18):
We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing. Then you just said
we were. We are supporting.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
As youre a senator, the full to hour marathon is
going to get dropped on x at some point today.
And you thought you had nothing to do this long weekend, Mike.
Last night's poll that says to me is how little
the general population has next to no clue about New
Zealand politics and policies, and how potential coalition governments work,
who could possibly vote labor knowing that they are a

(14:44):
bunch of crazies. I'll come back. There's two poles. Actually
one was this fresh Water one, which by the way
keeps the government in power. But there's another one out
this morning. It's a slightly random one on the herald
about our perceptions of what's going on. But anyway, I'll
work you through the numbers in the next half hours,
so might also get a few answers around health and
where the public health closes at four o'clock.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
That's next, setting the agenda and talking the big issues.
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Speaker 2 (15:17):
For the CRISSIS meetings, security CRISSIS meetings in Europe at
the moment, because of course the Americans park themselves in
Europe and the UK, and if the own gets involved
and they target the American sites, then who knows what
goes on. So Catherine Field on that shortly meantime back here,
trying to get to the bottom of the idea in health.
But some of the blockage in the public system is
because they run to a clock. In other words, I
things look like they're going past four o'clock in the afternoon,

(15:37):
A procedures put off for another day. This is all
part of the private sector doing an increasing number of
elective operations. Labour Party angsting over it. This week. Doctor
Richard Sullivan is the chief clinical officer at Health New
Zealand and he's with us Richard morning, good morning, night.
So just background for we're a surgeon on does public
private like most of them, And he said, look, the
problem is four o'clock in the public system and we

(15:57):
don't do it in the private system in simple too.
Is that true?

Speaker 9 (16:03):
In simple terms? That does occur? YEA. So what we
managed to do mic over the last year or two
is get a view across the whole country now about
what we killed court early finishes. And that's what he
was referring to. So when a roster might run through
to say four thirty or five, are they finishing you know,
within an hour at that time, because that's lost opportunity

(16:25):
eight And so yeah, we measure that. Look, you know,
we know in his particular hospital way, look at this
last night, they have about thirteen percent of their cases
that finish with the now of the rosters finished time.
So that's a focus we're trying to improve. We have
had some foum. We get about a four percent improvement

(16:46):
in reducing those early finishes, but clearly they're still an
opportunity to make sure we get more patient through the door.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Aim. Okay, we had the Health minister and also said
this is union based and that's the problem. It's the
union deal rightly, Wrongly, it's the way the unions have
stitched up. Is that true?

Speaker 9 (17:01):
Yes, So look, we have to align our schedules with
our employment agreements, and so most of our theaters start
around eight in the morning. We bring them to two shifts,
so they start around eight, they go through the midday.
In the afternoon there starts about twelve thirty and goes
through the four thirty. And that's very much in line
with our employment agreements. And so you can kind of

(17:21):
that that thirteen percent is when theater finishes to his
point at around about you know, four or thereabouts, rather
than the four thirty. There are not many operations, to
be fair, that are the less than half an hour,
so you know that is trying to squeeze it. And
let's say you know, we know we can do better,
for sure, but thirteen percent early finishes in that particular

(17:43):
hospital and some of the other hospitals as his high
as twenty percent. So that you're doing operations to date
at night, that's I mean, we do do operations at night.

Speaker 16 (17:53):
We do quite a lot.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
So outside of emergency I'm talking about regular scheduled elective operation.
Why are running theaters twenty four seven?

Speaker 9 (18:01):
Yeah, so we don't run theaters from four seven.

Speaker 6 (18:03):
Part of that is about our employment agreements.

Speaker 16 (18:04):
Also part of that is about looking up to our.

Speaker 9 (18:06):
Workforce, but we do. We do run, so we have
these early finishes, we do focus on trying to run
beyond that time, you know, paying people extra halfter ours
kind of salaries or fees to do those extra shifts.
And we've had a real focus and to the point
of the elective boost and trying to get more people through.
So we've been running sad day theaters, Sunday theaters, but

(18:29):
we don't do that consistently. So we do that, you
know at times, but we know we need to get
more people through.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
What if you really wanted to or are you constrained
by the unions and the collective uh.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
With workforce.

Speaker 9 (18:41):
He so it's more than just the unions. So you
need quite a big workforce to run full SAT day
lists all the time. Now that's not saying that's not
someone shouldn't look at, but what you know, we need
to look at the most efficient way of getting people
through our theaters. You know, these metrics of being super helpful.
So we measure you know, what we call the utilization,
So how well we use our use letters. Cut of

(19:04):
our benchmarks eighty five percent, we're tracking at eighty one
point three, so we could do a bit of there.
We look at our start and finished times, which is
this conversation. We look at our cancelation rates, which is
really important. You know a number of people who don't
get in that's sitting it around two percent in christ shit,
So that's a pretty good effort. So we're doing beta,
but no doubt room for improvement.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Great insight. Richard, appreciate it very much, doctor Richard Sullivan,
who is the chief clinical officer at Health in New Zealand.
I'm depressed because what I was hoping, well I wasn't hoping.
I wanted to get to the bottom of it. But
I mean, you've got your own question, answered nice and clearly.
What I was hoping he would say is no, none
of that's true. We're working really efficiently, we're doing as
best we possibly can. But he didn't. He basically confirmed

(19:46):
everything that was said on this program, and that is
of its past four o'clock. Don't worry about it. We're
going home. Nineteen to two.

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why I didn't move on the interest rates has worked
out what the problem might be.

Speaker 17 (20:53):
Changes to trade, immigration, fiscal, and regulatory policies continue to
evolve and their effects on the economy uncertain. The effects
of tariffs will depend, among other things, on their ultimate level.
Expectations of that level and thus of the related economic
effects reached a peak in April and have since declined.

(21:13):
Even so, increases in tariffs this year are likely to
push up prices and weigh on economic activity.

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Speaker 2 (21:27):
The Economy China got China is going to pay for
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from the hit economist Donald. Anyway, Catherine, how are you?

Speaker 11 (21:39):
I'm fine, Thank you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
If the Americans get involved in this business, they're parked
in Europe, and they parked in the UK. How are
it are we?

Speaker 11 (21:49):
The possibility of the US entering the conflict really does
bring this into focus. Well, we've got we've got two
large US air bases in Germany too. In the UK,
we've got that huge NATO base and Italy. Now, you
know everyone's been talking for a long time aim about well,
you know, if the US pulled away from NATO and
decides to sort of re concentrate its efforts in the

(22:12):
Asia Pacific region, well, you know that would be unfortunate.
Now the question is, wow, what are Europeans going to
do if those air bases are used for either supporting
attacks in Iran against Iran or supporting the Israeli attacks

(22:33):
on Iran? That is a big question right here? Do
you want these bases on your territory? And of course
there's the other big one that we've got that we're
all looking at. Of course, the Israelis have been asking
the Americans if they can use the stealth bomber to
help them out in Iran, these these big bunker busters. Well,
of course they could possibly take off from Diego Air Base,

(22:56):
which is in the Indian Ocean, which belongs to the UK.
But they've gotten with the US they can use it.
But essentially the UK would have to approve that.

Speaker 10 (23:04):
So what would that do?

Speaker 11 (23:05):
Would that then make the UK a target as well
in case of there are any other new attacks? So
it's really throwing the cat among the pigeons.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Listen this G seven the other day. A couple of
questions on that. I saw the video assume you did
with Maloney rolling her eyes with Macron when Trump was
leaving the room. The other thing that Trump when he
left the he said, Macrons and he doesn't know what
he's doing and he gets everything wrong. Does that How
does that play in France? Do they leap on that
with alacrity or do they see that for what it is?

Speaker 11 (23:33):
They see it for what it is. In fact, just
a short time after President Trump made that remark, the
question was put to Emanuel Macron, the President had a
press conferences, well what do you think about that? And
he said it's nothing really used to it. He said
one thing means another, you know, let's all move on.
I mean, everyone around the world who listens to what

(23:55):
comes out of the US president's mouth knows, well, it
might be something different in ours time. But no, no
one's really worried about that. And I think the fact
is that everyone's far more worried about what's going to
happen in Iran than what President Trump may or may
not say about the president.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Well, it's very difficult. I don't know, Catherine. I look
at that G seven and he left again. And we
talked the other day about you know what about twenty eighteen,
and Merkle's leaning on the table and she's looking It's
just the world's such a mess, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (24:24):
Oh, Oh, it's such a mess.

Speaker 10 (24:26):
It really is.

Speaker 11 (24:27):
And I think we're now you're getting all the signs
of the growing urgency, particularly with the attacks on Iran.
So within the last couple of hours you've had these
security crisis meetings in Paris and Berlin and also in
the UK, and just the same words are coming out.
Please dial it down, don't you don't target nuclear, non

(24:50):
nuclear and non baalistic missile program science in Iran. Everyone
is just so concerned that it just seems to be
getting out of control. And this is the first time
in ages we've actually heard about the repatriation of nationals
from these countries. We've got the Germans flew a plane
out of Jordan today bringing one hundred and seventy of

(25:13):
their nationals home. The Brits are arranging to bring some back.
The French are arranging as well. It's really a nervous
time and associally, you know, back to that question of
the US air bases on European soil. What happens if
then the Europeans are targeted, I mean particularly you know,
but think back. I mean, you know, I know you

(25:34):
were a we nipper at the time, Mike, but back
in nineteen eighty five, nineteen eighty six bombing campaign and Paris,
it was the Iranians were accused of orchestrating this big
campaign in which twenty people died. You know, these things
have happened on European soil where they've had the backlash.

Speaker 10 (25:54):
They know about it.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
They know also, come on, Mike, you look at it.
You look at what happened in Iraq. When was that
two thousand and three when they went and did regime
change twenty eleven, regime change in Libya, and that is
what the Europeans are also saying, is that regime change
usually brings chaos, and there cannot be any more chaos
at the moment or it was.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
A great pleasure, love the institutional knowledge, Catherine. And for
the record, in nineteen eighty five by was into the
third year of my broadcast in Koreas. So not much
of a niffer Venus. This weekend they're protesting the bezos wedding.
What do they want? The guys bought Venice. Basically every
hotel in Venice is full, every water taxi has been booked.

(26:35):
They are spending millions, if not tens of and in
a tourist town, and yet they're still going to protest
on the bridges. I don't know what they want. Catherine
Field are filling into Joe by the way this morning,
Who's I'm assuming yet another one of her holidays issue
good luck to nine minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
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dead b Mike.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
They simply haven't got the staff to work longer operations
back to health operations need follow up, doesn't stop at
four pas as. You claim nothing to do with the unions.
It's funding, staff, logistics and lack of capacity. Graham, I'll
give you some leeway on this. It has got to
do with the unions. You're wrong on that. It does
have to do with funding. I'll give you that. Staff
and logistics. It is their approach. Could they do more

(27:15):
and you heard Richard say it. Could they do more yes?
Could they be better yes? Could they be more efficient yes?
Could they be more like the private sector yes? Are
they being constrained by the unions?

Speaker 13 (27:24):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Want for better is my message five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
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business favor. Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Were economic read for you, We've got construction. This is
the BDOS survey for the industry April and May. Fifty
nine percent don't have any more than a year's forward work.
That's against a backdrop that sixty two percent of these
businesses have an annual turnover of more than five million dollars.
Fifty nine percent don't have more than a year's worth.
Just over a quarter only have enough work to cover
them off for the next six months or less. What

(27:58):
are their biggest concerns? Oh, economic pressures, What a surprise.
In Auckland rest of the North Island are least positive.
Challenges of profit margins, forward work orders of course fifty
three percent though in Auckland are positive. So that's the majority.
You're positive. Not by much, but it's a majority. Wellington
and wire Rapp at sixty six percent, way better number
rest of the North Island fifty two. South Island you're laughing.
It's party time, pop the champagne. Couldn't build an RP.

(28:20):
How many hammers? Give me more hammers, give me more nails,
give me more screwdrivers. Seventy one percent have a good outlook.
Big part of that because of christ Church and Queenstown.
Of course some good news. Staffing levels or is it
staffing levels seem to have gotten back to normal. Vast
majority no longer dealing with severe labor shortages. Is that
in part though? If you haven't got the business, you're

(28:41):
not hiring. Therefore you're not short of labor. It's only
you're only short of labor if you're booming. See what
I mean. Nick Tuffley is going to come on from
the bank and he's going to go zero point seven
for Q one. I'm really depressed about that now. At
the start of the week, I was thinking, yeah, let's
get into the Q one number. Zero point seven but
a growth fantastic. But we've had the manufacturing and the
services since then for more recent times, and we've had

(29:04):
a wall. We've had a big fat brick wall and
they built that a while back before they got depressed.
So we'll look at the economy and see we were
at with that another carbon auction. Yesterday We rang the
minister to talk about it. He never got back to us.
Now why is that? Could it be because he's embarrassed
and we might be right and that they're a joke.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
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Speaker 2 (29:36):
Be seven past seven, So odd day economically today, because
it's entirely possible we'll get a GDP number that simply
reminds us of the good old days. The key one
data will most likely show growth, many say about zero
point seven. This is for jan Feb and March. Of course,
it's what happened after that. That's the issue, Nick toughly
is asb's chief economists back with us, Nick, morning to you,
good morning. Are you on zero point seven?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yes, we are indeed so lining up before we what
we saw last time, and that would be a pretty
good growth rate if we could actually continue that sort
of year and year out.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, wouldn't it just But we're not going to. And
that's the problem, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yes, we do see things sort of slowing a bit
through the middle parts of the year after that, and
we've just got that general challenge of productivity growth is
still pretty slow, and population growth has slowed as well.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
And April and May and June, what do you reckon
for the second quarter? What's your vibe on what's just
happened to us?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
We're down to about sort of point three point four.
So look, the early parts of the year in late
last year had good tailwinds out of basically this of
key export sectors were all sort of really firing, and
that also tap off a little bit. And what we
are waiting to see is it's us our householders getting
our wallets out and starting to spend money a bit more.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Okay, are you still confident. This is the RB line
that hang on and more money's coming and the interest
rates are dropping and this is going to happen. Do
you see that actually unfolding?

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Well, we do in the Senate that there will be
a lot more people refixing their mortgage at a lower rate.
So one thing that I do have a bit of
a question mark about is the housing market is a
bit of a barometer of how low people think interest
rates are. And net market's still looking pretty soft, as
we saw in some figures out there. So that question
mark about how low do we need rates to go

(31:19):
to stimulate your economy versus the fact that in the
short term also facing inflation still remaining preces stick. So
it's a bit of bind.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
That was my next question. So the prices are going up,
powers up, waters up, rates are up, insurances up. So yes,
I've got a cheaper mortgage, but guess where it's going.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, there is an element of that. But what we've
got to remember is that a lot of the other
sort of more market driven domestic inflation is actually continuing
to slow. But we are getting some of those rebounds
and things, and one thing that reserved thank's going to
be mindful of we could be hitting three percent inflation.
Some of that's being driven by just sort of hopefully
one of things, but food and fuel the things you

(31:54):
buy all the time, and you tend to remember the
prices of those.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
You're adjusting your view on neutral for the RB Well,
we still.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Think somewhere around about that sort of three to three
and a quarter percent, So it's sort of roughly where
we are now. It's just the question markers, as you know,
do we need to go below neutral given the headwinds
that are potentially coming globally And it's a case of
the Reserve Bank just having a bit of a white
nuckle ride in the short term over the spike in inflation,
and will there have us going here we go again?

(32:22):
Seven percent?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Good stuff, Nick, Appreciate your company always, Nick Tuffley, asb
Chief Economist. Nine minutes past seven. Rental data out this morning.
Median weekly rent in Wellington down three point nine percent.
This is April to May two and a half percent
down in Taranaki, two and a half percent down in Nelson,
four point two, in Marlborough three point nine. Wellington. As

(32:43):
I say, Hawks Bay down three. So it's a good
time to be a renter. I guess our demand is
up a bit, but not as much as supply now,
speaking of numbers, not just monthly inflation, numbers are coming
our way, of course, which is the good news. We've
also dumped the census twenty eighteen twenty twenty three that
are complete mess. So from twenty thirty onwards we will
use administrative data and annual surveys. Lend Cock is the

(33:05):
former National Statistician director of Britain's Office for National Status
Len Buring a morning to you, Good morning Mike. Eighteen
to twenty three or eighteen and twenty three, that was
a total cockup? Did that do the census in or
do we just not need the census?

Speaker 18 (33:20):
Look, what it proved is that if you don't manage
it properly, which we did for one hundred years, then
you won't get it, you won't do a very good job.
And that's all approved. We leave both those occasions. The
government statisticians at the time thought they knew better than
to repeat what we'd learned in that hundred year ferry.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Are we going to be able to cover ourselves data
wise with this administrative data and annual surveys?

Speaker 13 (33:47):
Well?

Speaker 18 (33:47):
If you know, if you think about it, a census
as a rolling snapshot of every household in New Zealand
at a five year basis administrative data. First it comes
from about that doesn't or so different sources is, none
of which are complete for the population, and none of
them tell you at any particular time what is happening

(34:09):
to a single individual. So, for example, your dealings with
the police department, your tax department, housing, social welfare, child
protection do not all occur at the same time. So
when we bring together your information from an administrative of
records of different departments, then some of it were relate
to ten years ago, some of it possibly twenty years ago,

(34:31):
and some of it more recently. So what we have
to do out of that sort of hotchpotch is work
out how best we can fill in the gaps to
create a sort of a snapshot at any particular time.
But it's not made up at all in that sort
of very direct way that the census is is.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So they're making a mistake, the government of making mistake.
We need to do should do better well.

Speaker 18 (34:53):
The British government thought they would try and look at this,
They even did when I was there, and just yes,
today they made a decision that in twenty thirty one
they're going to carry on and do what they did
since eighteen forty one. And I can assure you that
the British think a lot more deeply about what they're doing,
about how they use information, and they have a much
more demanding community of users than we have.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
That doesn't surprise me funnily enough yet, Sadly, Len Good
catch up Former National Statistician, Director of Britain's National Office
for Statistics, Len Cook, thirteen minutes past seven. Mike, the
country based on commodity exports and tourism, ever gets so
much debt one, living beyond our means too, extremely poor
economic management, three and overvalued currency. Well, the answer is
you'll elect Grant Robinson as your finance minister, which brings

(35:36):
us to this random poll this morning that you'll find
in the Herald Ipsos New Zealand Issues monasors survey, labor
more capable in handing handling eleven of the twenty top
issues that we have health, housing, education, transport, immigration, unemployment,
national beat labor on three things the economic, crime, defense
and foreign affairs. Now, if you read Richard Prebble yesterday
which is well worth doing. He got advice from an

(35:58):
Australian genius of many years standing. He said, unless you
can win the economy, you win nothing. So nationals still
win the economy. Therefore they win the election. And that
was the other poll out yesterday. They're still in government.
But what is it we're based in labor? Is it
new policies which we don't have or is it the
old policies which crippled the country and send us into recession?
And so did you enjoy recession? Did you? If you're

(36:19):
backing labor, so you thoroughly enjoyed the three recessions and
you want more of that? Is that what you're telling
us in this poll? Weirdest pole going fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
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Speaker 2 (36:34):
That'd be Rob Penny, who's going to win the Super
Rugby Final on the weekend, Crusader's coach. Of course, this
time last year we were saying how useless Rob was
and robbers a disaster and you know how what a
nightmare it was, and rob where they get robbed from
They're getting from the bottom of a whek pick packet.
All that anyway, Redemption says this weekend seventeen past seventies
were as shortly. Not sure how many times we have

(36:55):
to tell the government either this one or the last,
but the carbon auctions aren't working. Latest was held yet
yesterday there was zero bids. In fact, no one even registered.
Secondary market currently is it's around fifty eight dollars. Well
the auction price it's at sixty eight. So would you
rather pay fifty eight dollars or sixty eight dollars? Anyway?
This is their eighth auction to be declined now. Simon

(37:16):
Caught is the ACT party spokespirst non climate change and
he's with us Simon morning, Good morning mate. We wanted
Simon Watts on the program, not that we don't love you,
but Watts didn't come back to us, do you Reckon?
That's because he's really embarrassed at the moment.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
I think Simon Watts has got a lot on us plate.
Each year's auction has only been one.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Thing, right, Are you in coalition with them or something?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Well, I'm the climate spokestres for ACT and of course
actors and coalition with National and government. But just coming
back to the emissions trading scheme, mate. I mean, I
think what we're seeing is that industrial and minners like
coal users for example, have already got enough units in
their carbon bank to pay for this year's emissions. And

(38:02):
the secondary market, as you pointed out, is working quite well.
So if anything, what that would say is that the
eats the cover and market's actually working quite well. Exactly
whether or not the government wants to option these kind
of credits.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And do the government set aside money in their books
in some way, shape or form from the collection of
funds from the auction that they hold or not, Because
there's a couple of billion dollars a year up for
grabs if people went and bought them.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Yeah, I think last year it was about five to
six hundred million, And while it's not shown on this
year's budget, there would be an anticipation of some revenues.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Coming this way, which they are.

Speaker 16 (38:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
So I mean that obviously puts pressure on the government
to do the things that it said it would do,
which is to find ways to cut spending, because if
we don't have the money coming in, then we've got
to find other ways to deliver the services within the
budget that.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
We're making far too much sense here, as Simon, do
you and I know you're in coalition with them, but
does anybody sit around a cabinet table or a committee
table and go you realize none of these auctions work
and the secondary market actually works fine, and we might
like to have a look at that and stop banking
money that we're never going to get or words to
that effect.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Well, I don't know about the cabinet table, but certainly
around the water cooler. And when you think about the
impact of what the emission's trading scheme actually does at
the current price of fifty seven to sixty dollars a ton,
what it means is that for every ton of carbon
that someone like Genesis emits when they're burning coal huntly
this winter, they're going to pay about sixty bucks. If

(39:32):
they burn a million tons at sixty million dollars, that
goes on Kiwi power bills. And that's why one of
the things this goverment is focusing on is making more
gas available. Because gas only has half the carbon weight
and were therefore only attract half the price. We've just
got to find more gas so that we can move
away from these high carbon.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Fuels, well, said Simon. Appreciated. Tim Simon caught who's the
X spokesperson? That raised a number of triggering points for me,
one of which was the gas van to one of
which this text mic. If everyone was given tickets to
the warriors and a bucket of KFC, then maybe more
people would fill these statistics for more than you realize
they were offered that when you didn't get a jab
and when you didn't fill in the census, it was chicken.

(40:12):
It was surely you hadn't forgotten that. Or maybe you
were just voting in the Herald poll this morning and
though with the good old days, and you want some
more of that please seven twenty one.

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that well is as popular as Hansel's hanging around at masterton.
A good idea is seven not a bad week. Monthly
inflation sensors scrapped housing ministers to overrule councils, health targets,
improving things feel like they might be moving. Manufacturing four
Hold my beer it hit a wall. This is a worry.
Services four Hold my other beer. It hit a wall.

(41:55):
This is a worry. Rolliston seven be buying Bulkan stacket
all above the aisles. Do you want bullish? Check out
the pack and say biggest building on the island, under budget,
open early. That's how they do it in christ Church
The Crusaders seven Greg great comeback story for Rob Penny
who was villified a year ago on the verge of
being a hero. This weekend, what goes on? Growth six?

(42:22):
Because today's number will almost certainly be a good one,
But sadly it only takes us to April and then
I fear as were the good news end. Nico seven
has import as story of the week in some ways
for me, sort of living his dream, charting his destiny
and mature beyond. As he has thoroughly enjoyed the conversation,
I wish him well. Hamilton's six International travels back in Hamilton,
cool and gat or anyone visa waiver six part of

(42:44):
the Good Moves Week for the country. Anything to make
it easier for tourists, Chinese or not. We should be
into Venice three protesting the Bezos wedding. He's booked the
place out. He's throwing money at the joint. There are
tourist town. What is it you want? Mind you? I
could ask the Spanish they're mad Airbnb rules the same question.
Actually I will Spain three. Wow, what is it you want?

(43:06):
Radio news Radio New Zealand four looking for people to quit? That, sadly,
is what you get when the snake oil Jackson Rolls
has circus into town to hand out lolly. That can
never be real. Speaking of the media, streaming seven for
the first time ever, this week's streaming beat terrestrial and
cable can buine next trick something decent to actually watch? Actually,
Department Q seven.

Speaker 19 (43:27):
It is some kind of joke.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, Netflix this weekend if you haven't yet, gory but
worth it?

Speaker 1 (43:33):
The world four And.

Speaker 9 (43:34):
It's really a shame, so stupid, It's so stupid.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
It's a mess, isn't it? This time last week you
had another war started and where traditionally we have a
country and a leader that rises to the occasion. Sadly,
these days no such luck. Too busy launching his gold
phone and that's the week. Copies on the websites and
the board met yesterday, by the way to reject this
week's takeover offer, we stay under local control, Husky like
I wasn't part of the pole, but what I know

(43:58):
is my food bills increased, increased, and for some families
childcare costs have increased. The cost of living crisis remains
National hasn't moved the dial. What an excellent point you make, Texter.
I shall come back to you in the next half
hour and address some of that. Rob Penny, the aforementioned
sleep well melatonin. You ever been to Singapore and Hong
Kong and looked on the shelves and the pharmacy the

(44:19):
way I had gone? How can you get all this
melotonin so easily and you can't in New Zealand. Well
that's another thing that's been fixed this week. We'll look
at that too.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
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Speaker 2 (44:38):
Twenty three away from a Timm Kadi after I have,
of course, aper rugby final time this long weekend, as
the comps, two best chiefs and the crusaders work out
who wins it all, but the Crusaders. Well, they weren't
here last year. They had four wins from fourteen matches.
Of course, in the new coach at the time, Rob Pennie,
he was under fire. So what a difference of season makes?
Rob Penny is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Jim.
How's the season gone for you? I mean, obviously in

(45:00):
the final, but as a season compared to last season,
how's it gone for you?

Speaker 12 (45:05):
Well?

Speaker 6 (45:05):
I think it's pretty obvious. Chalk and cheese would be
the analogy. But you know, although we were really disappointed
in our outcomes last year, there was lots of good
things happening and this year has really flowed on from
I guess some seeds that were set last year and
proofs in the putting edge. So we're in the final

(45:27):
and rapped to be there.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
How difficult was it for you personally to deal with
last year? Oh?

Speaker 6 (45:33):
Look, it was very challenging, felt as though there was
a real agenda to try to try to move me on.
But you know, those that know were loyal and trusting
and just so grateful to get the opportunity, I guess
to you know, to assist the group to be where

(45:55):
they are today. And you know, the biggest disappointment last
year really was around and the non achievement really for
the boys, because you're only in it for the you know,
for the boys to have a lot of joy and
express themselves and and loving what they do. And it
was a tough it was it was a tough segment

(46:17):
of their careers. And but anyway, we've overcome that and
as I say, we've got a great occasion happening here
on set.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
It indeed, the lead up this week, how has that
been been really good?

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Thanks. We've the whole organization, like from the medical team,
the performance team through the back office has been really
humming for the last months and just just building towards this.
And you know, we've got a great group of players
representing the Crusaders, and you know, the coaching staff in

(46:50):
particular have done an enormous amount of work to prepare
the group for what will be a massive occasion.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
What's your observation on Super rugby in general, the quality
of the crowds that may or may not have turned up,
the television viewing, the tightness of the games as a camp.
How do you think it's gone.

Speaker 20 (47:10):
Well.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
I think it's been a real highlight. I think from
a personal point of view, we've had great crowds through
the season here at christ Jets and in some abysmal
weather at times, and the loyalty has been unreal. And
where we've gone and traveled equally, the crowd have been
really supportive of their home team and a lot of them,

(47:32):
you know, are traveling Crusader supporters too, which has been
a joy to be a part of. But I think
the competition, the closeness Ossie's going back down to four
teams has crowed a lot of depth and every game
was you had to focus, You had to be prepared
well because you were going to get knocked off if
you didn't didn't do the preparation to a to a

(47:55):
really deep level. And I think that that was shine
in the table. You know, the Blues, who were eminently
capable just squeaked into the top six, and you know
everyone was capable of beating everybody at that stage.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, indeed the Chiefs can beat you and we know that,
but you don't lose in a final at home. So
how do you balance those two ideas up?

Speaker 6 (48:17):
No doubt, it's two Titanic teams gone head to head.
Sport as you know, you know, we hear every Monday
morning about your ebb and flows and emotions around the
Warriors and how they're doing.

Speaker 21 (48:33):
It.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
Can you know it can? It can throw up some
curve balls and it's not always linear. It's never linear.
And you know, the beauty about sport is just that,
that's why we love it so much, and the challenges
within that. You know, there's the physical ones, obviously, but
there's the emotional mental challenges that go along with the
with the depth of preparation that you need to go

(48:53):
to do in all those areas to have the outcome.
So yep, the Chiefs they know how to win. They've
beaten us twice this year, but neither team's the same
team as we were at those occasions, and finals are
separate thing all together. They're beast all of their own
and yeah, it's I guess it's going to be another

(49:15):
tight one. And the team that holds its composure the
longest and prepares the best and plays the best will
will that be the ultimate victis.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
I've been talking to my mum who's been telling me
how cold, but Sonny it is. Does any of that
matter or not?

Speaker 20 (49:30):
Not?

Speaker 13 (49:30):
Now?

Speaker 21 (49:30):
I know.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
The Chiefs have been playing in this sort of condition.
I think all the teams are capable of playing all weather,
particularly when you've got the level of talent that the
Chiefs do and that we do numerous all blacks that
have played all around the world and in different situations,
and you know, they'll be the key mend that will
drive both sides on Saturday night, and so conditions will

(49:55):
be it'll be won't be barmie, it'll be jewey and cool,
but I think it'll be clear not raining.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
So that's that's a bonus the Crusaders. Then, rob By
how many.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
I would never be as arrogant to state that. I
just think it'll be such a great contest. It'll be
all the things that will be expected of a great tournament,
and it'll be an international level because there's you know,
the caliber of the players involved on both sides that
and you know, probably be arrogant enough to say it's

(50:28):
the best two teams in the world at the moment.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
That's probably true. Yeah, all right, go well, mate, Rob Penny,
coach of the Crusaders, nice guy, nice guy, seventeen away
from eight husky speaking of Christian Just quickly, this is
random out of left Field Cathay Pacific as an airlines.
They're ramping up their services to the country over summer.
More competition, more choice, always good. Auckland Hong Kong going
from seven flights a week to eleven flights a week.

(50:51):
That's from early December to March. But they're also bringing
forward that summer seasonal schedule for christ so Christier Hong Kong.
They're starting November three instead of December, so that's good.
I notice. Also, funnily enough, viet Jet, who I've never
heard of, they ordered one hundred Airbus A three twenty one.
The o's at the Paris show this week, which was weird.
Not them, but the show was slightly unusual because of

(51:13):
what's happened in the Middle East, of course, So they've
ordered a lot that's thirteen billion dollars worth of planes.
They've got an option for a further fifty. They already
operate a fleet of one hundred Airbus aircraft. At the
point being that viet Jet announced that they're coming here.
They're going to have direct flights from here to Vietnam,
Auckland to Ho Chi Minh starting in September. That's what

(51:37):
you want to get into I've bought more good news
on the economy in a moment stand By sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
The Mike hosting breakerst a full show podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (51:50):
News zesprey indicative forecast for the rest of the season,
the current season of the record crop. What they think
A couple of one hundred million trays more than half
of which has already been shipped out sun gold one
seventy one thousand to one eighty seven thousand per hectare
unless you're selling organic, which is less. That's ironic, isn't it.
You go organic and get less money one fifty four
to one seventy two thousand, Green fourteen there's no money

(52:11):
and at sixty three to seventy five Ruby read. At
seventy four to seventy nine Ruby read, I just don't
know how. I tried some Ruby read the other days.
Very pretty, but it doesn't The taste profile is not
dramatically different enough for me personally. It's not a criticism,
it's just, you know, if you're looking for a point
of difference, I don't know. It's got it going gangbusters
in Europe and North America. Big demand so all in all,

(52:35):
things are looking very good and zestrey right. Now back
to this herald pole, which is fascinating as all the
smalling Mike, I'm absolutely astounded by that pole. Don't people
realize how much worse things would be under labor? Well,
welcome to the cornerstone of democracy. It doesn't really matter
what people think because everyone's entitled to their thought, and
everyone's entitled to a vote, and the person who votes
labor might be a complete idiot, but nevertheless they're allowed

(52:56):
to be because that's democracy. Mike, I was part of
the pole. Wasn't part of the pole?

Speaker 8 (52:59):
Rather?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
But I know my food bill has increased, power has increased,
and for some families childcare costs have increased. The cost
of living remains national hasn't moved the dial, right, so
very good point, fair point. So what you're looking to
the government to solve all your problems? Are you?

Speaker 8 (53:13):
Is that?

Speaker 10 (53:13):
So?

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Is that the divide we're seeing? So people who vote
labor like labors to solve their problems. Wipe my bum
Please give me some KFC, give me some tickets to
the Warriors, solve my problem, lock me down. What sort
of teddy bear should I put in the window. So
that's what you love. That's why I just Sinda in
that poll last night was still the most popular political
figure in this country net favorability of plus twelve. How

(53:35):
do you explain that? And just goes to show how
wrong you can be exactly, But nevertheless, there are you.
They're entitled to it. They're entitled to it. So are
you telling me that labor when you talk about your
power increasing and your food increasing and your insurance increasing,
all of which is true, of course, that labor would
do something different? Now if it is, you're arguing that,
what is it they'd do different?

Speaker 11 (53:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
The fact is you don't know because they haven't got
any policies, and they haven't got any policies because we're
in the middle of the political cycle. I don't blame
them for not having any policies. I wouldn't put any
policies out either, But they don't have any policy So
you've got no idea what they're going to do. Last
time you go. But last time, well, last time they
ran us into three recessions, not an opinion state. In fact,
they ran us into three recessions. Do you like a
recession or didn't you think about that. So then we

(54:20):
come to the how much you want the government to
solve your problem? What is it you want the government
to do about your insurance bill, or your rates bill,
or your food bill. So when you say the government
hasn't moved the dial, what is it that they were
supposed to do? Any government on your food bill? So
coffee is up because they're not growing coco the way
they used to, or chocolate, or they're bombing Israel or

(54:45):
Iran's bombing them, or Israel's bombing Iran. So the ober
prices are what do you want the government to do? See?
Have you given that a level of thought? Or was
that just at the end of a phone call from
upholsterers said what about the whole Yeah, cost of living?
Cheers s what I'll blame the government, Which then leads
to the ultimate question is what's the point of the poll?
What's the point of the poll if we're just gonna
just is it just like a guest lighting session where

(55:07):
we all go and then they put that into numbers.

Speaker 22 (55:12):
What's the point of any poll at this point of
the election cycle.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Excellent question. Glim got another one.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
It was my one for the week.

Speaker 22 (55:21):
I must sort of on a strip quota.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
We'll take it nine away from it.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news talks.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
There'd be seven away from another of these common sense
moves yesterday from the government, along with the dumping of
the census and getting monthly inflation numbers, were also decided.
You can buy melotonin over the counter, sort of like
you can all over the rest of the world. Doctor
Alex bartel Is with the sleep Well Clinic and as
with us, Alex morning.

Speaker 16 (55:44):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
How widely used as melotonin versus anything else?

Speaker 20 (55:47):
Do you know?

Speaker 16 (55:49):
It is pretty widely used now, partly because it's perceived
to be a pretty safe product. Long term studies haven't
really been done a lot. It's certainly over the counter America.
There are other countries where it's only on prescription, so
we're not alone in that as to date. But of course,
and even now, there's going to be some restrictions on it.

(56:10):
I think not for teenagers or youngsters.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, if I come to you and I go Alex,
are not sleeping, well, how long before you hit the
old melotonin with me?

Speaker 16 (56:19):
I don't prescribe melatonin at all. I'm very keen on
making sure that patients, clients can actually start to learn
to sleep themselves without any adjective.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So do you have do you see now sort of
more competition in the field. In other words, you go, look,
here's what I can do for you, versus I go, well,
look I'm just going down to get a pill.

Speaker 16 (56:41):
Well, it's different. If you go to a GP, they
can give you pills, of course, and I'm a GP,
so I could be doing that, but in the end
I always prefer And the studies are very clear that
behavioral study behavioral treatments are much more effective than anything
like melotonin. Melotonin, you know, studying twenty seventeen, for example,

(57:01):
shows there was a six minute increase in sleep time
and time to go to sleep, but the total sleep
time was not improved, so it's not really that valuable.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Does them vary widely within the product of the melotonins
and melotonins or not.

Speaker 16 (57:16):
It's a very good point because a bit like the
recent vaping, you know, the melatonin actually in these tablets,
it can be quite variable, especially if it becomes a
dietary supplement, which of course is what it will become.
The only one that not well, only if people feel
it gives them the better sleep, then they'll want to
use it rather than looking for other ways of doing it,

(57:38):
behavioral ways of doing it. I might add that the
one that is more secure is the two minigrams slow
release product, which is we know is exactly two minigrams.
It's artificially made, and it's shown to be regionally effective
for elderly populations over fifty five.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Good on you, Alex nisen So, I appreciate it very much.
Doctor Alex Martle. Remember going to sing can't remember as
Singapore or Hong Kong, probably both. We're in the pharmacy.
We always go to the pharmacy. First thing, Katy says
when we land at the airport, said let's head to
the pharmacy. And I've never worked out why that is,
but anyway, we get lots of bags of stuff. Anyway,
so she goes, look at the look at the melotone.
Incredible the melotone. And I said, well, would you only
get one packet of day? She goes, oh, no, we

(58:17):
have fifty packets. I mean she didn't really well she
might have. I don't know. Mike, can you please have
heavier thoughts on regional airlines wanting thirty million dollars of
government subsidy. Will you can they're not getting it. I
think we solve that problem really quickly, doesn't it. I
mean it's the old time. I mean, once Nicholas sorted
out the supermarkets, of course she'll turn her attention to
the banks and then the airlines, and lord knows what

(58:37):
she's going to do. Tim and Katy and the aforementioned
after the news which is next, and then inter Brat
he's doing the business for Rod. Were a heat wave
this week endon Britain. By the way that Dad's degrees
in Scunthorpe. It's going to be hot. So with us
before we leave you for the long weekend as well.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
News the news and the news leak is the Mic
Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate differently
since nineteen seventy three news talk sad be.

Speaker 19 (59:09):
Well does the listener.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
I had a child a dream for sure, as me
what I work up in in the morning, felt that
I was coming down.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Joe from my quick research today. I don't believe you
put anything out last year, but he did put two
out in twenty three, Moving on Skipple, which was a
cool name, moving on skipple? How are you doing? I'm
moving on in skipple. Accentuate the positive. That was twenty three,
so two of those in twenty three, so that accounts
for twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two. What's it going
to take? Everyone thought that was the ENGI of them.

(59:46):
Listen to this, he's eighty eighty gratitude Biden didn't someone's
men about how many other people at this age are
James Taylor. I don't think James is eighty, but he's
he'd been well into his seventies. He's got as good
a voice as here. But Ben Morrison's got as good
a voice as ever. Who else?

Speaker 20 (01:00:07):
Mc jagger?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
It is eight minutes past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Might have to put this on a stick, Katie, Well,
you don't have to do that. I do know how
to do that. You asked clean to do it for you,
something like that. Hey, you're not going to leave me,
are you?

Speaker 11 (01:00:34):
What?

Speaker 17 (01:00:34):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Just you're not leaving me?

Speaker 10 (01:00:37):
Who are you talking to me?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I'm not going anywhere. I'm here for you, bro, But no,
we're just we're just having another one of those worrying
conversations off here in which I sort of I've come
to the realization that I've got no control over my life,
and and then it's taking you to figure this out.
And then Jason Jason called me, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:00:59):
My bit of judgment. You continue to wear what you
want to wear.

Speaker 21 (01:01:05):
Try she buys such nice outfits and nice onesies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
And you'll never wear them. Come on, let me just
get an insight. Not glent him. It's just Jason Jason
called me an elderly man. And then he used the
word widow, and it just it all sort of visually
staunded imploying. My whole life was in front of me.
And it came about because I've got no idea where
the money is. Where's the money, Katie and the bank? Yeah,

(01:01:30):
that's well, that was my point. My point is we're
talking about the fact I didn't I don't know how
to get into the bank.

Speaker 10 (01:01:36):
Hey, do you know what In Japan, the working man
of the family gives his entire salary.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
And she's also in remuera, as it turns out, pocket money.
Exactly when I was.

Speaker 21 (01:01:50):
When I was teaching in Japan, my my boss liked
to get out on the rastas and drink, but it'd
run through his drink stipend by Wednesday. So he had
mates who were sponsors. He go off to the air
place and that sponsor sponsor the Japan they call him
ki or parties. So I think, what's what's what's the
least you got, Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Why don't you sponsor me for drinking? Caddie, it's not
tight enough.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
The least you're on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
You're going to tighten that least.

Speaker 23 (01:02:16):
You buy extortionate amounts of wine at enormous value, You buy.

Speaker 10 (01:02:20):
What about the Marina of Kashmir and marina clothing that
I can stand?

Speaker 23 (01:02:25):
And you buy expensive loafers, designer loafers with tessels, which
I say, throw on the bin.

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
Oh no else do you buy?

Speaker 20 (01:02:33):
You?

Speaker 10 (01:02:33):
You every day ask if you can buy a new
role X, a new car.

Speaker 9 (01:02:37):
It was the thing.

Speaker 10 (01:02:37):
The other day he wanted a new one simulating machine
for home, and I was like, when does it end?

Speaker 21 (01:02:44):
This is this is like having this is seriously, this
is like having a seven year old. You're you're literally
married to a seven year old.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
It is It's not dissimilar. Is there really? Just let
me just broad question for you Tim, Is there anything
wrong with a set of burgundy suede loaf loafers with tessels?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:03:01):
My good?

Speaker 21 (01:03:03):
Okay, so you lost me at bergun D. You lost
even more with Swede and then you went to tassels. Okay,
So which part of this do you want me to unpack?

Speaker 10 (01:03:14):
No wonder, Jason's calling you elderly. It really is an
elderly shoe. It's not, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:20):
What about?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
What about?

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
What about it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
What about a nice burgundy suade walker for you? Would
you like us to find a little little bit of
a little bit of elcro? Where were we, o, Katie?
Were we in Singapore or Hong Kong? With the melatonin?

Speaker 23 (01:03:35):
Singapore and we would always stock up, and the same
in the US and every time we went we would
stock up on malatonin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
What were those red pills and Beverly Hills that we
bought for d in our friends?

Speaker 11 (01:03:47):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:03:47):
That was just advil?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
It was okay, yeah, it was no Tayland old Tyland. O.
That's right, incredible? So you would you want some?

Speaker 21 (01:03:56):
You have suade loafers and the red pearl that we hatlves.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I'm kidding. An insight announcer walking down that where do
we go Wargreens? Was it Walgreens for the titler?

Speaker 10 (01:04:11):
We went to get the title because he asked for it.
We were bringing that back for French.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I couldn't believe. And you would notice to drug mills exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
I mean, do it now?

Speaker 12 (01:04:19):
Would we?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I mean, if we got to the border in Los Angeles,
these new.

Speaker 21 (01:04:24):
Burgundy suede loafers are too tight, my little toe hits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Could I have a red pill from Beverly Hills please?

Speaker 10 (01:04:29):
I don't think i'd bring pills back now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
And to do that if we were at Lax. If
we were at Lax and they said, hey, what are
you doing here, we wouldn't go. We're down to Walgreens
to get some more tail and old open malatonin. I
think that I think they'd be frisking as at that
particular point somehow. Ye are you better? Katie? By the way,
speaking of pills and potis, you're one hundred percent this morning.

Speaker 23 (01:04:53):
I'm a hundred and I tell you the highlight of
my week was the Nico Potius interview. I can't get
over at twenty three, what an absolute the outstanding human
and his parents should take a bow because he was
so self aware, so wise, so passionate.

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
So I just I mean, we've got twenty three year olds,
and I mean he was so articulous. Yeah, it was incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Even the best of our twenty three year olds is
probably several generations behind him, aren't they to be?

Speaker 23 (01:05:18):
I want to say that on the radio, But I
was thinking, gosh out of I don't think you put
all our twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Three olds together and they still wouldn't sound you said,
for three of ours wouldn't even get a Nico Portius,
would they? But let's be honest, that's on us, isn't it,
Because we're too busy with the Tyler nol and the
mellowtone and parents were the Speghan dish Suaye castled loafers.
Oh hang on, I got to take some pills. Brie
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Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Mike, the Red Ones, Red Bill, not Tyler, and old.
Don't pick on kt. I've seen him your after shave
costs when we visit Australia. Might we pop into the
nearest pharmacy and by OTC Ventil and Inhaler's good on
your nil, that's a good Australian trip. But your seven
year old most your after shave.

Speaker 10 (01:06:12):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Ryan, Ryan, who's one of the newer members of the
z B team does an early morning show, said to
me yesterday, I think it was he was objecting to
my after shame. Oh is that? Yeah? That's what I thought?

Speaker 10 (01:06:27):
Is that. I think it was just objecting, probably to
the amount you were wearing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
To the common I think it was the name there.

Speaker 19 (01:06:34):
What is it called prancing Horse?

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Was called side Stallion. Don't say it like that, it's not.
It's not marketed as ud stallion. But yeah, he was
objected market you say it, how do you say it? Stallion?

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
And you tend to bathe in it before you go
to work. It was the bodywhelming at three in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Four I'll agree with the volume. I shouldn't do this
on are Katie. But quick question, can Sammy come and
stay with us this weekend?

Speaker 23 (01:07:05):
I know I heard his partner is stuck in Bali
with the volcano and he's sol appearenting the new puppy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
It's a funniest story. She was down at Bingo's.

Speaker 21 (01:07:15):
That's sounding like a sort of veiled no, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Well, I'm not against it. I'm not against it, but
it was it strange she wanted at Bingo. She was
down at Bingo and the prize was a trip for
one to Bali, and so she took it. And so
then she now she's trapped.

Speaker 10 (01:07:32):
Oh that's a real shame. Mind you. It could be worse.
She could be trapped in Israel or Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
So now there's a very good question. That was what
I wanted to raise earlier but didn't have time. Is
it the government's job to tell you not to go
to Israel or Iran? Or is it your job to
work it out for yourself? Because you're not a child,
you should be able to work that out for yourself.

Speaker 21 (01:07:51):
It's your it's your job to Yeah, yeah, it's your
job to figure it out for yourself. But we have this,
we have this weird attitude in yu Zeale. We sort
of we I think you touched on it early know
this EPSOS poll, Mike, We sort of looked to the
government to fix things for us because we believe that
government is is benign and it's it's it's odd because yeah,
we've we've got this sort of miss we've got a

(01:08:12):
misunderstanding of our history in a way.

Speaker 8 (01:08:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
The difficulty is with that term, as right as you
may be and you are, is that if you think that,
then you're entitled to because you've got as many votes
as anybody else. And and that is the problem.

Speaker 23 (01:08:24):
I suspect, well, it is a problem because it's depressing
that here Ald Pole, you're talking about the epsoss one
that that.

Speaker 10 (01:08:31):
Says to me, we have very very short memories because
how the.

Speaker 23 (01:08:34):
Majority in that pole would have back a labor government
to run the economy is terrified.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
How do you explain how do you explain a doing
in that very pole, thing that in the freshwater pole,
the one from yesterday wherever that came from the cheese's
most popular political figure in this country? How do you
explain that the.

Speaker 10 (01:08:49):
Followers at acolytes, they're obsessed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
With you, But you've got to have a lot of followers,
but don't have a lot of followers to get the number.
It's not on you know, you're you're particularly passionate. They
do it on numbers, you know, you get a plus
A reminders she's a plus.

Speaker 23 (01:09:02):
Maybe it's international rep that she's got going at the moment.
We like her, but we wouldn't vote for her necessarily.

Speaker 21 (01:09:10):
I wonder if it's if it's sort of like the
vision thing, right, So we sort of we looked at
politicians in some sense, as you know, as the sacred
moves from the public square and it's filled with politics.
We looked at her political figures to being messires. She
dressed itself as a messire. People want the Messiah. We
don't have one at the moment. We've got someone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
We all know she's a fraud, so wanting do you
think they still see her as the messiah and not
a fraud?

Speaker 10 (01:09:36):
Yeah, there's many people who don't see her.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
So you think the fact that she's bugging off to
Boston to make money on a book is still that's
cool and she's still fantastic, and everything she did was.

Speaker 10 (01:09:47):
They would be saying, yes, queen to that whole thing.
They would think that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Okay, But then it goes back to your point, Tim,
that's democracy, isn't it. So enough people think that you're
going to get more where that came from I wanted.

Speaker 21 (01:10:00):
I wanted to though if New Zealanders are actually pretty
much politically we're a bit a political which is actually
a positive thing. So you remember when when we had
that what was it, the Ministry of Justice being chased
by police dogs on a Sunday afternoon and Labour didn't
go down in the polls. That's because the election was
in two and a half weeks and people didn't care
until one and a half weeks out. So we're actually
politically disconnected as well.

Speaker 10 (01:10:21):
Yeah, I group, Glenn, we shouldn't be polling at this point.
It's a complete enough wast g.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Let's just poll Glenn, I think, just what's going on? Glenn?
Glinn's always right, blints as per usual. Glint is right.
I've still got a mark from my blood test yesterday?
Is that a sign of a bad phlebotomist.

Speaker 10 (01:10:38):
You were a little bit of a socker bubber about that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
I wasn't a sucker bubber about it. I did not
socker bubber about that at all.

Speaker 10 (01:10:43):
What came out and you said that was the one
I didn't say that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
I did not say it that way.

Speaker 10 (01:10:50):
I should have worn your special loafer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Maybe maybe you should have. Maybe you should have just
just poured on a bit of ood cologne.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
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way it is. Winston Peters has just announced he's pausing
funding to the Cook Islands. Now why is he doing that?
Because they signed that deal. You remember a few months
ago with China. We didn't like the look of that,
and we still don't like the look of it. And
until they quote take concrete steps to repair the relationship
and restore trust, there's no more money going their way. Now,
I'd say good move. I'd also say Loo's a lot

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like Trump. And I'd also say that Luxeon's in China,
and I'm thinking, how come he's done it now? How
come he's done it today? And did Luxe and know?
And how's he explaining? And this is just is this
Winston now that he's not Deputy Prime Minister campaigning for
the next election. Hey, there's a few questions. We're doing poles,

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doing poles, uh Inder Brady, it's hot and they got
a lot of Israel to run. Things to think about
in that part of the world as well into Brady
in the UK is next.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I was just telling my wife the same thing yesterday
after donating blood. I usually rave about the service, but
I was wondering if that up the needle gauge, because
it really hurt. Can you up a needle gauge? I
suppose you can for the flow. I don't know. Anyway,
The point was, yes, they had to go down for
the bloods and you always go in. First of all,
yesterday something's happened to the blood service because Kadie had

(01:13:56):
a blood test the other day. Nobody there, and that's
unheard of. Normally there's a Q nine one hundred miles long.
Nobody there. So went in yesterday. I thought, I'll go in.
If there's no one there, I'll do it. I might't'll
do it.

Speaker 22 (01:14:06):
That's just the procedure where they transfused you with the
blood of a nineteen year old to keep you young.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
Same thing. And so there was no one there, and
so anyway, so the next point is the person you
go and they go number three, five, Oh, come on,
and so is this a nice person? This is the
first person I want to I'm looking at them and go,
I'm looking for clues of niceness, or I'm looking for
clues of anger or frustration, or a person who's sick
of their job because they've got a needle and it
could hurt, might not. She seemed really pleasant. I thought,

(01:14:32):
I've got a very pleasant woman here. The other thing,
and this is sort of my problem, is that because
of who I am, I might have said some things
previously that they then go, oh, it's asking excellent.

Speaker 22 (01:14:45):
So you didn't matter a rounder your breath? Are you
going home at four o'clock or anything?

Speaker 8 (01:14:48):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Nothing like that, okay, but I say some stuff about
the hell system that every now and again in the
blood someone's going to get me eventually. So she seemed
nice anyway. Oh oh yeah, but she did. It wasn't
she wasn't angry with it. She didn't seem like she
wanted to go home early. It was just like and
then I've got a mark this morning, and I'm thinking
that's a sign. So she seemed pleasant and yet pain.

(01:15:11):
So normally it's grumpy and pain, pleasant and no pain.
That was my first pleasant with paint, So I don't
know how to explain them. Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Well, Mike Inderbridy is back, Inda. How are you really good?

Speaker 8 (01:15:28):
Mike?

Speaker 19 (01:15:28):
Yeah, great to speak to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Good are you still running? I am yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:15:32):
It was out today. It's glorious sunshine here. So I
knocked out twelve k in an hour today cross country
in Oxfordshire. And I just got back from running in Peru,
which was quite challenging altitude, humidity, it was in the
jungle in the Amazon, it was insane.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
How do you go in altitude not good.

Speaker 19 (01:15:51):
We don't have much altitude in Ireland or England, Let's
be honest. It was so the air was very thin,
the jungle was very huge, humid, and there was an
awful lot of insects and creepy Crawley's and Mud had
a great time. The race was five days, five stages.
I lasted three and at this point a lot of
South African runners pulled out and informed me that they

(01:16:13):
were getting a minibus back to civilization to drink some
cold beer.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
And I jumped into the other one way. All right,
good on you. How worried are we that America is
going to get in on this? And they've got a
few bases in Britain and Britain might get involved in
this and this is all turning to you know.

Speaker 19 (01:16:28):
What, yes, so big, big concern And it's really interesting
what's happened in the last couple of hours. Kurt Starmer
has just wrapped up a COBRA meeting. That's an emergency
meeting of the UK government. COBRA sounds very dramatic. It
actually stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A so just
the physical location they go into now what they're interested

(01:16:52):
or concerned about is that the Americans go ahead with
a plan to bomb Iran and they request permission to
use Diego Garcia, which is a joint uk US base
in the Chegos Islands. So Starmer's getting himself organized. So
he's gone into that meeting today with defense officials, security

(01:17:12):
military and he's effectively just planning out response if and
when the phone calls comes from Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Okay, now the business of Escott And because Kate's my favorite,
of course, so she's not there, do they need to
issue something by way of an explanation every time she
doesn't show up? Or is it entirely possible she got
a cold and couldn't be bothered.

Speaker 19 (01:17:32):
I think the world we live in at the moment
and all of the conspiracy theories and the way the
internet will now take over and social media, I think
at some point we might get some clarification about what
happened earlier today our time. So she was due to
be at Royal Ascot. The Princess of Wales, William was
giving prizes out today at the racing. His dad was there,
Camilla was there. This was a big day and a

(01:17:55):
lot of people were there to see the Princess of
Wales as much as it's a horse racing of a
lot of people wanted to see Kate. And look, we
can't in any way criticize her. She's been to hell
and back and come out smiling. I thought she's been
looking brilliant lately. She's got a young family as well.
Right now, we don't know why she pulled out, but
it was absolutely a last minute withdrawal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Interesting because she's been out in the belt, hasn't she.
It's not like she hasn't been back and doing stuff.

Speaker 19 (01:18:25):
Yeah, she's been busy last couple of weeks. There's been
regimental stuff, she's been pictured, a lot of work she
has been doing. And I think, you know, what we're
seeing is the future of the Royals. Better communication, more proactive,
more open and honest, and her and William are the
absolute epitome of it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
While I've got you into I'm just reading the other
day and this ongoing thing about the migrants and the
boats and the channel and all that sort of stuff.
And they've changed technics now and it's Texi boats and
you sort of wide out to meet them and all
that sort of thing. In the French are claiming this
is this another summer that you're about to wint of
record breaking numbers with yet again hands in the year,
with frustration as to no idea as to hell to

(01:19:04):
fix it.

Speaker 19 (01:19:07):
You said it absolutely nail on the head. So we're
in the middle of a heat wave. By our standards
here the sea is like a mill pond, and these
criminal gangs will be pushing people across, not in their hundreds,
in their thousands as the weather has improved.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Now it's really interesting what's going on.

Speaker 19 (01:19:24):
You mentioned people wading out into the water twenty thirty meters.
The French law as it stands, if a boat is
at sea and people are in it, the French police
cannot interact with that vessel. So Starmer has been talking
to Macron and what they're trying to do is get
the French to change the law so that regardless of
whether a boat is on the shore or out at sea,

(01:19:47):
that the police do have jurisdiction to intervene.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Well, that would make sense, wouldn't it. And how when
you say heat wy, I've got you at thirty in
some parts, is it about right?

Speaker 19 (01:19:56):
Yeah, So it's going to be thirty one Friday. I
think where I am in a Oxford shure, it was
twenty seven celsius today. Nice, yeah, people are laughing. Look
we're going to have ten days of sustained heat. And
for everyone who thinks twenty seven celsius is not hot,
I would defy you to get on the tube system
and make your way a kilometer underground and be standing

(01:20:18):
packed like saradines. It is deeply unpleasant on the tube.
And I've all had to look forward to in about
ten hours time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Only might go well. Nice to catch up into Brady
out of Britain for us this morning, just before we
leave that. And it reminds me of Chris Bishop in
an announcement yesterday about central government over housing decisions at
local government Orkney, as in the Islands, as in the Council.
They a couple of years ago thought I know, why
don't we do our own thing. Two years they've spent
exploring opportunities for greater autonomy. They looked into a whole

(01:20:45):
bunch of different models for alternative governance, changing the status
in the UK, potentially becoming a self governing territory of Norway.
So they finally got their report after two years back
to the council concluded the proposals were too difficult and
too expensive, so they're doing nothing. And that's a council
for you, isn't it? Sixteen too?

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Mike, you should go to New Zealand blood and Manacow,
which is in South Autland. Asked for Wendy. Wendy knows
how to handle how it works. I don't know that
it works, but she knows how to handle a needle.
I never heard that phrase before, Mike. Drink plenty of
water before you donate blood. I was told to it
plumps up your veins. Well, the funny thing about that
was I'd come out of the sawna yesterday and I

(01:21:32):
said to I said to my wife, I said, wife,
what about this business of the sauna before a blood test?
What do you reckon? She goes, well, I don't know.
So do you know what I did? I chat gpted
it and I don't think I've ever chated gpt'd anything.
I said, chat GPT. I said, should I go to
a sort of blood test after the sauna? And that
went no, said no, because it changes the makeup of

(01:21:52):
your blood. Anyway, because it's been so fine where we are,
we've gone walking this week. We've had three walkspin the
highlight of my wik part from the Nico Audious interview.
It's been the highlight of my week, holding hands with
my wife, walking around in the sunshine. Anyway, we having
to walk past the place that does the blood, and
I thought, well, I wonder ifrom my blood settled back down.
But I didn't want to ask you chet GBT in public,
so I just went up and I went up to

(01:22:12):
the woman and I said, this was the friendly one
who jabbed me and caused me so much pain. I said,
I've just been in the sauna. I didn't pause that
long because that would have seemed weird, but I said,
I've just been in the sauna. Is this going to
affect any things? Yes, absolutely not, as inne you're an idiot?
Why would that affect anything? So completely mixed me.

Speaker 22 (01:22:31):
I never know though, because the last time I tried
to donate blood, Yes, they took my blood pressure and
what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
It was too high? Yeah, And I thought, how is
that a problem.

Speaker 22 (01:22:40):
Surely that means I'm going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
You coming o time exactly.

Speaker 22 (01:22:44):
Yeah, but you do both arms.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
You're a coiled spring. Some phlebotomists, Mike, are fantastic and
don't feel the thing. Others feel like they're digging your veins.
Is true, It's like any job in the world. Good accountants,
good lawyers, good teachers, good phlebotomists. So I think we
just all think phlebotomists are all the same.

Speaker 22 (01:22:59):
I reckon and my experience, what you're dealing with there
is poor post procedure care. Oh so I'm putting the
responsibility back on you here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
You think.

Speaker 22 (01:23:08):
So you know how they say the mark? Yeah, you
know how they say to you, Oh, you might not
want to use that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Didn't No, I'm pretty good at that, are you sure?

Speaker 5 (01:23:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Pretty good the mark. I don't mind because I get that,
and I think you make a very good point there.
But but you can't hide from the pain. And the
pain slash mark go together join the dots. So I
was a copy, I'd arrest her. There's only two gauges, Mike,
twenty one and twenty three. Who knew that? Now there's
that's a who wants to be a mini.

Speaker 22 (01:23:33):
Yeah, I don't reckon that. That's true either, because I've
been in with a patient who has very thin veins
and they use a very thin needle.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Yeah, there'll be twenty one.

Speaker 22 (01:23:43):
Oh you reckon, we're getting the twenty what's the other one?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Twenty three?

Speaker 22 (01:23:46):
We're getting the twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
You're getting the twenty three. Yeah, the skinny person gets
the twenty one. I wouldn't. I wouldn't sick and guess John,
he's as good as chat GPT. It's ten minutes away from.

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place in the Cotswolds. We've got what's loose? We referred
to as a critic food critic, Henry Southern. He's twenty six.
He's got millions to follow us on the socials, but
that's only because he's on Big Brother Anyway. He's gone
to the pub for the twenty six pounds beef and
beef and pork roasting.

Speaker 20 (01:26:12):
Guys, I've just got to Jeremy Clarksons pub, the Farmer's Dog.
I've got a reservation for lunch for my dad Father's Day.
It's like arriving at Glastonbury. This is the overflow car park,
Like I'm I'm in a field far away from the pub.
Tell you what this is better be the best roast
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Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
It's really dry.

Speaker 20 (01:26:45):
Port's also really dry.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Were now playing the east Enders theme tune. Jeremy's got
a trap nerve at the moment, and as beck I
was reading one of his rebus he was in the
new Mercedes Electric issue V that you know the g waggon,
Remember the g weggon. They've done an electric version of it.
He didn't really like it. Wanted to get back to
the rain drover his wife. He's called his wife's rain drope.
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he probably couldn't give them monkeys about that clown. I
was also watching a video yesterday, a review of the
Savoy Hotel in London, and Ramsey runs the restaurant there,
or one of the rest of his two restaurants. One
of the restaurants. They were having the tasting menu. Now,
the tasting menu is not like Degas stations, just tasting
these tiny little bits of food. Tasting menu and do
you know what it costs for two people that tasted

(01:27:28):
one glass of wine each one read one wine house?
Poor tasting menu for two people. Do you know what
the costs for two thousand bucks? Are you kidding me? Say?
It's like you serious? A thousand dollars for a couple
of bits of tasting food and two glasses of wine
for two people at the Savoy in London.

Speaker 22 (01:27:48):
Beers on the wine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Now, this was just the house poor. I looked at
the label. I never heard of any of it. Most
became from Argentine. Was probably an Argentinian charreaz and a
Chilean shevel blanc.

Speaker 22 (01:27:58):
At the Savoy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Yes, it looked at it.

Speaker 16 (01:28:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Anyway, long weekend, you enjoy it and we will look
forward to your company on Monday. From six ebudays.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
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