Full Show Podcast: 19 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
The mess that will be Wellington. We talked to the
coppers and the local businesses. The Alan Jones arrest and charges.
As one of broadcasting's great names, has his reputation smashed.
Mark Mitchell on not quitting because he did what he
said he would do. Rhys Darby's back for the Comedy
Circuit first tour and over a decades with us up
breat Catherine Field and France rather little Ponies up from
Britain Tasking. Welcome to Tuesday, seven past six. Mark Mitchell,

(00:35):
Minister of Police regular on this program was doing the
beat walk with the coppers in the Capitol. Yesterday's spooking
new crime figures. You will remember he said he would
quit if things don't improve under his watch. Have things
improved under his watch? He says?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I say he's right. Can you find specific figures and
stats and crimes that have gone up though? Yes? But
will you always be able to do that?

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Can you find figures that have dropped yes, but the
key metric do you feel feel better about crime around you?
Does the same level of fear and sense of things
being out of control pervade the landscape as it previously
did under the last government. I would argue no. Headlined
a couple of weeks ago on the recidibous youth offending
being down, though and seemingly knowing why in a sense
does it matter? Is it possible they've locked a few

(01:17):
of the snots up and when you've locked up, you
can't commit crime. Someone asked me, just over the weekend,
when was the last ram rate? I mean ram raids,
if you remember a very short period of time ago,
were a national and regular scourge. They appear to be
largely contained. There is not a shadow of a doubt
that the approach to policing has changed under the new
government and a yurin it is not unfair to suggest
that one of the most practical, sensible, popular and effective

(01:40):
changes the new government has made is around illegal behavior.
Gangs have been gotten to, laws are being changed and
comeing to effect shortly. A lot of the crime stats
are trending in the right direction, and dare I suggest
you get the sense that not only does the public
enjoy the approach, the police do too. As Mitchell continues
to say, it is early days, of course, and there
is much to do. We have to accept, if not embrace,

(02:01):
the simple truth that in a comparatively short period of
time i e. One year, we have seen a marked,
if not remarkable change in the crime landscape and we're
all the better for it.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
So Biden gives Zelensky to go ahead for the long
range stuff, and he could not be happier today.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
There's a lot of talk in the media Abhauts was
receiving permission for respective actions, but strikes are not carried
out with words. Such things are not announced. Missiles will
speak for themselves, they certainly will.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
The Russians not so much.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
It is obvious that the outgoing administration in Washington intends
to take steps and they have been talking about this
to continue adding fuel to the fire and provoke in
further escalation of tensions of this conflict.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
At the UN. Britain, who are currently cheering the Security
Council decided to have a crack at sorting Sedan out. Sadly,
you know how the Security Council rule.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
I asked the reper of Russian representative in all conscience,
sitting there on his phone, how many more Sudanese have
to be killed, how many more women have to be raped?
How many more children have to go without food?

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Meantime, another member of the UK government does an ipic
yestamamd gee.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
It's the fast time in six years that a British
Prime Minister has met with his Chinese counterpart. The last
PM to do so was Theresa May.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Actually should have mentioned the other conflict. No, not today, No,
not Russia, but the Middle East. Remember, the Middle is
still a myss. The Lebanese, though, showing cautious optimism.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
We in Lebanon would like to get ontopularity on whether
at this time Natanyajo and the Israeli government are going.

Speaker 8 (03:46):
To respect the proposed deal.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
So this is ongoing, said news from the Peals.

Speaker 9 (03:53):
Posting on social media. The Royal family account, Camilla described Beth,
who came from bat See dogs home, as a much
slove companion who brought such joy.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Beth is dead. Finally, study out of the Brigham and
Women's Hospital in Boston looked at data from ninety thousand
people from the buyer bank work. That's the UK longitudinal study.
It found that those who sit for more than ten
and a half hours a day have an increased risk
of cardiovascular disease, no kidding. The data also said that
a standing desk or a workout at the end of

(04:27):
the day one tundo the problems caused by these long
bounts of sitting. They recommend listen to what they recommend.
They recommend a bike or a treadmill desk never seen
one of those, or seeing off. Meetings can be had
over a walk or jogging. See holding papers while dragging
a whiteboard through a park. I would have thought sounds

(04:49):
a bit tricky, but there he goes to the world
of ninety seconds. Couple of quick things that no one
else will tell you about. Spirit Airlines as in America.
Of course, they aree about one point one billion dollars.
They've run into trouble. They're an ike on a budgeteer
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for bankruptcy. And carrots, not only carrots in America, but
organic baby carrots. They're having to be pulled because they've
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(05:10):
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Speaker 1 (05:21):
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Speaker 2 (05:27):
And just a round off a story we started will
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Discovery New Zealand connection, obviously they lost. The NBA hired
some lawyers. They've cut a deal and so finally they
can move on with Disney, Comcast, NBC and Amazon as
media partners. So that's been sorted overnight. DELI, you can't
breed the air unprecedented levels fifteen hundred. Is that bad?

(05:48):
The AQI the Air Quality Index fifteen hundred yep, fifteen
times what they described as being normal. Quarter past six
right from JMI welth Andrew callaher good morning, Come Oni, Mike.
Services sector not quite where we want it to be,
and that is true.

Speaker 10 (06:06):
So the manufacturing sector report card was released on Friday.
That was a disappointing outcome. Manufacturing sector contracting at a
faster rate. Forty five point eight, which fell from forty seven.
Yesterday we had the Ben said Business New Zealand Performance
of Services Index. So now, Mike, the key takeaway that
the underlying theme that we've talked about a fair bit

(06:27):
is this real contrast between what's happening right now, the
fabled here and now, and what are very much improved
expectations for activity. So the services sector, which by the way, Mike,
is big biggest sector of New Zealand economy, it is
still in a funk. It remains in contraction. Forty six
point zero. That's the outcome, a statistically underwhelming lift of

(06:49):
zero point three points from the previous month. Well, the
thing is, Mike, we've now had four months of very
similar outcomes all around the sort of same level, and
all of those outcomes are very long long way from
the long term average, which is fifty three point one.
And look, as ever, we're looking for the green shoots,
we're looking for those early signs the economic conditions are improving. Well,

(07:10):
the New Order's sub index is forty eight point one.
Now that's still below fifty, yes, but it's the highest
level that we've seen at since February. So it's getting
less bad. The employment index are recovered ground after a
big fall in September. Again, that's still also under fifty
forty six point four. The proportion of negative comments is reducing,

(07:30):
so we are either getting more positive, we're just getting
more worn down in terms of these negative comments are
the what dominates that cost of living, general economic climate,
They're the sort of references that I guess reinforced that
more sort of weak state of the here and now
now compared to international outcomes. Of the services index, New

(07:52):
Zealand is still an outlie. The JP Morgan Global indexes
fifty three point one, so at forty six we're a
long way behind what's happening in the services sector elsewhere
as Ever, the authors of the survey, they wrap up
the manufacturing the services indexes into a composite index which
has a good correlation to GDP growth. It's come out
at forty six point one, so it is contracting that

(08:15):
points to a negative GDP outcome. It's tracking below levels
from a year ago, which suggests downside risk to GDP
to growth. The retail trade index did improve a little
fifty point four, so it's just over fifty, but the
average this time of year is quite a bit higher
at fifty four. So look, Mike, it's still really tough
out there. We all we're desperate to see improvement in

(08:38):
twenty twenty five, but it's looking like if we do,
it's going to be slow and steady, and it actually
could be sort of more geared towards the second half.
So sorry, I couldn't give you a better use there, Mike.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It is what it is. I know that A and zena,
so there's a little bit of pick up, but that's
probably not till twenty six, right. Producer price inflation, this
is what business inflation, right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 (08:57):
So we talk a great deal about the CPI, the
consumer price index, that's what we experience yesterday's stats usuallyand
release the producer price index. Now this is and it
never really gets much much attention. Think about this as
being sort of inflation for business. It's reported in two parts.
You get input costs or input prices and output prices. Now,
in the third quarter, inputs were up one point nine percent,

(09:20):
output prices rose one point five percent. So at a
very simplistic level, you can speculate that business in general
is absorbing some price pressures because inputs are going up
more than outputs. They're not passing everything on now. Venues
on the farms though. Farm expenses index fell zero point
two percent, so the farmers will be happy there. The

(09:41):
annual PPI numbers, know, Mike, they're still quite high. If
I look at these output prices over the whole year,
up four point two percent, inputs up five percent, so
still a bit higher than you really want to see.
The key culprits I suppose for business price rises. No
surprises here, electricity costs, insurance costs, and transport costs.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
In the right. What are the what are the numbers?

Speaker 8 (10:03):
All the Dow Jones is hanging in there.

Speaker 10 (10:05):
It's down twenty six points, so pretty flat, would call
that forty three thousand, four hundred and seventeen. The S
and P five hundred five eight nine seven's up twenty
six points point four five percent, and the nasuaq is
up two thirds of percent at eighteen thousand, eight hundred
and three overnight. The FORTS one hundred gained point five
seven percent. Eight one oh nine is the close there.

(10:26):
The nick A fell just over one percent thirty eight thousand,
two hundred and twenty. The Shanghai composite was down seven points,
which is not much three three two three. Yesterday in Australasia,
the A six two hundred gained fifteen points, that's point
one eight of a percent, closing up eighty three zero zero,
and the inzdex fifty gained point six three of a percent,
closing at twelve thousand, seven hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And sixty four.

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Kiwi dollar still languishing against the US point five eight
seven eight point nine oh five to one against the
ossie point five five five seven euro point four six
four four pounds yen against the end ninety one point
three gold has rallied a little twenty six hundred and
eleven dollars and break crews seventy three dollars and four cents.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Go well Matte Andrew kelliher Jmiwealth dot co dot n
z last week looking to China to get some sort
of read as to when they might be bouncing back.
Nettin come up fifty eight percent year on year for
who Elie Barber Are people spending revenue five percent high
year on year, but below analysts expectation. They pulled in
a bit over six billion dollars, so there's some life there,
but not a lot six, twenty one. You're a news

(11:31):
talk said B.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
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Speaker 2 (11:40):
It's just a reference to the aforementioned day in ZID
economic outlook, which came out yesterday. The good news is
for this well, there's no good news for this year.
This year, they're thinking minus one percent for the year.
It's pathetic. Next year, one point one for twenty five.
So it's it's in the right direction, but she's hardly bullish.
By twenty sixth election year. Ironically, they're talking three percent growth.
It's the usual stuff. Bank Reserve Bank's going to cut

(12:03):
trim fairly quickly. We'll get excited and get a bit fusy.
Won't be paying as much on the mortgage, so we'll
go out and spend et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Mike,
my assistant decided she would create a walking desk, had
a treadmill, would walk on it as she stood behind
her stand up desk. Didn't take long for Health and
Safety to close it down though they said it was
too dangerous. Mike, I've just driven along the Hut Road
heading to Wellington's traffic management. Who's paying for that? You

(12:24):
know who's paying for that? Mike, you write, Mitchell's done well.
But to sustain the drop in crime, the judiciary have
to come to the party and therein lies the problem.
Just look at the reason for Seymour's bill regarding the
treaty and the problem the judiciary interpreting the treaty. This
is the problem. No, and seems to get part of
the argument is given Parliament haven't done their job around
the treaty. The courts do it for us. Is that

(12:46):
what we want?

Speaker 11 (12:46):
Sex twenty five trending now with Jelliswarenouse stop paying too much?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Light basketball NBA Lakers coach guy called JJ Riddick. He's
had what the Internet are calling a Popo bitch moment.
Spurs coach Greg popitch legend in the game, very igy
in the interview, Tho, I'm not good with the interview,
especially the mid game interview. The midgame interview is generally
considered one of the worst things I've invented recently. Anyway,
this guy from the Likes tunes up with a couple
of commentitus called Ron Richard JJ.

Speaker 12 (13:14):
How about Anthony Davis?

Speaker 13 (13:15):
What are you most satisfied with his start of the season.
Ady was great. I just want to be clear on this, guys.
There's nothing I'd rather be doing less than talking to
the two of you. I want everybody to know. I
want to be very clear on this. I do not
like these two gentlemen. I couldn't even drop my ato
coming out of the half because I had to do this.

Speaker 14 (13:37):
I'm going to give you an opportunity to say something
nice about somebody. Can we talk about Max Christie?

Speaker 13 (13:42):
Max Christy was awesome and it shows a level of
professionalism to not play for three games, to be out
of the rotation and come in here and do all
the things we asked him to do. He was phenomenal.

Speaker 15 (13:50):
Appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 12 (13:51):
Ah, thanks jj oh.

Speaker 14 (13:53):
I'm glad the feelings mutual because I've truly never liked
him as a professional. Yes, we work together, but you know, when.

Speaker 12 (14:00):
You say this, there's a subset of the audience that
thinks you're being serious.

Speaker 14 (14:04):
And there's a subset of the audience that knows I'm
telling the truth.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Lakers are doing well. They're nine and four, they're fourth
in the Western Conference, and less say he is also
this is old JJ leading the league for the most
whiteboards broken by a coach in the first month of
the season. Now we've got the pothole thing going on.
That's why you ring in a pothole and they'll come
and fix it with their special truck. As of today,

(14:28):
we've now got a red tape tip line. I'm not
making this up. This is the new ministry that Seymour
started up. This is the infrastructure Ministry. Order the hell
they're calling it. So you ring the tip line, you go, look,
I've spotted a bit of red tape. My question and
we'll talk about it at the moment. Shouldn't they know
the problems around red tape already? Why do they need
us to ring up and tell them anyway?

Speaker 8 (14:47):
More?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
After the news, which is next the a news talk said.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like the costing breakfast with the range rover villa designed
to intrigue, can use.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Togs dead be Mike was approximately eight hundred and eighty
seven thousand mari in New Zealand. If has predicted thirty
thousand arrived at parliament. That is less than three percent
of the population, hardly the overwhelming story the left leaning
media are ramming down our throats. Mike edits zero point
five percent of the overall population taking part. It's been
frontline news every day for a week. Dumb biased media.

(15:27):
There's a little bit. Shane Jones puts it very well
in The Herald yesterday. Read his piece Middle new Zealand
is gobsmacked that this jarring spectacle has electronically zipped across
the globe. The Kiwi electoral midriff may be slow to stir,
but they are infuriated. They can sense manipulation the he Koi,
the ka Koi or the koru Koi. Given the significant
number of protesters jetting to Wellington as a Green Maray

(15:50):
Party recruitment drive, has anyone Mike on the big Murray
Party march actually read or understood Seymour's bill. Of course
they haven't, Mike. Why don't they have a referendum on
the bill that New Zealand decided the answer for that
is because Luxeon and Seymour couldn't cut a deal. That's
what Seymour wanted Originally, it didn't get through and that's
how allegedly MMP works twenty two to seven. They're still

(16:12):
rid the Bollard Schultz who picked up the phone over
the weekend of Rankuton for the first time. They thought, well,
what the hell's going on there? So a lot of
building angst in that conflict. Casmin Field with us shortly
meantime back here, we've got the launch today of a
red tape tip line. This is the Ministry of a Regulation.
Seymour's idea wants to hear from you. Apparently infrastructure in
New Zealand. Bossnic Leggett is with us on that Nick
morning to you. Hello, Ho, Mike, Is this a stunt?

Speaker 16 (16:35):
Well, it's going to be interesting to see what a
tip line uncovers, isn't it. I mean what worries me
is that we've got this sort of bureaucratic butt covering
that drives a lot of red tape and is that
hardwired into New Zealand's DNA and now or can.

Speaker 15 (16:52):
We do something about it?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Really good points.

Speaker 16 (16:54):
So I think that David Seymour's Ministry of Regulation is
a good is a good aim, but it's going to
take more than a tip line to actually uncover where
the problems are. You might pick up some trends. It's
a good way of involving the public. But actually this
is where you need politicians to lead and to act.

(17:16):
And I can tell you in the infrastructure sector that
you think about the cost of consenting and there'll be
lots of people listening that have done in addition to
their house or tried to build a commercial premise, the
cost of consenting the time it takes for any amount
of work under two hundred thousand dollars. In the infrastructure sector,
the costs of contenting of sixteen percent of the job,

(17:37):
it's over thirty thousand dollars. That's that's the sort of red.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Tape that we know that. But that's the problem. Actually
they know that, don't they.

Speaker 15 (17:48):
That's right, That's what I mean.

Speaker 16 (17:49):
It's about we need there to be some action on
this stuff. And it just seems as though so much
of red tape and and sentence costs are people trying
to protect and de risk themselves, whereas we've got to
have a more permissive system in New Zealand that doesn't
compromise on our standards, still really protects safety. That's another one, Mike.

(18:14):
You know, think about the red cones you know on
the street that key we's love. I mean, the government
have said we want fewer red cones. Well, you know,
I'm a director of a company that contracts infrastructure work
and public works. I'm not going to take the risk
of reducing red cones unless there's a law that tells

(18:34):
me I can do that. So we do really have
to demand. Like it's great, it's a great sort of
popular thing to say, let's reduce cut through red tape,
but somebody at the end of the day has to
hold the pen and make sure that that happens so
keywis can get their work done faster and we can
be more productive of a country.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Very well, said Nick nick Leggett, who is the Infrastructure
New Zealand Blast twenty minutes away from seven report North
and South stopping printing. If you've read North and South
and clearly not a lot of people are because that's
why they've stopped printing. On the back of the flat advertising,
it's the usual thing they're going to focus and I
wish them well with it. On the digital offering, I

(19:13):
don't know that magazines have a massive future digitally as
opposed to in print. They sort of went under with Bao.
If you remember Bao, the German company that pretty much
owned everything magazine wise in this country. And then COVID
arrived and the borders got closed, and bow bug it
off back to Germany, and all these magazines went west.
And then a few people came along with their money
and invested in them, and North and South was one

(19:33):
of them. And they came back in a slimmer dare
I suggest slightly more dull form than the original version,
and it's all gone, you know what. Excuse me, but
let's see how they cop and the digital age. We
wish them well. Nineteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
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Speaker 2 (19:54):
This is an interesting take, morning, Mike. If David Seymore's
in teaching is to really define the principles, then why
didn't you do it? Point Bill? With the Maori Party
given Mari as the other party to the treaty, the
problem is that he's unilaterally trying to change things. Well,
no he's not. And in your question, which is incorrect,
you raise a very interesting point the Maori Party, and
this is critical to understand. The Maori Party do not

(20:16):
represent Mari. The Maori Party is a two percent if
not less party and We've got to stop thinking about
MARI in this country as a singular group. And this
is what they surely have learned in America. Latinos are
not the same, Black people are not the same. Women
are not the same. They're individuals. And the moment we
start referring to MARI as a group of people who

(20:38):
are all the same, we make the critical, critical error.
And the Maray Party do not represent Maurray. They represent
a tiny proportion of Mara, an activist branch of MARI.
Most Mara are busy getting on with their lives.

Speaker 11 (20:51):
Six forty five International Correspondence with ends an eye Insurance,
Peace of mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Brad Catain feel very good morning, Good morning. Make now
how angsty are we given what Biden's done in the
last twenty four to forty eight hours.

Speaker 17 (21:09):
I think everyone's very angsty. And when you look at
the reaction, not just to that announcement from President Biden
giving Ukraine permission to use those US made short range
weapons to use them inside Russia, there's also concern that
the German Chancellor Schultz was just out of line by

(21:29):
making this phone call to putin just the last couple
of days. It was felt that this was a phone
call that hadn't been cleared by the allies. It didn't
give the right message to Vladimir Putin that the war
in Ukraine had to end and he had to end it.
And it came just as the allies, in particular France,
the US, the UK were all trying to get together

(21:53):
to decide who was going to phone Putin and what
they were going to say. So a lot of unhappiness
about that, also a lot of unhappiness not just from
these allies, but also from the Polish government saying, look,
Germany should be doing more. It should have stepped up
and really put forward the possibility of supplying those long

(22:14):
range cruise missiles to Ukraine. However, Mike, as we know,
there's a lot of public support in Germany for Ukraine,
but the German chancellor, facing elections next year, is just
so fearful that Germany could get dragged into the war.
But he just doesn't want to take that show.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Question to come out of that, one of you partially answered,
was he acting Schultz unilaterally? If so, why and if
that's the case, does that, in some way, shape or
form show what inn inep did he it he is
in terms of his government collapsing in the last couple
of weeks.

Speaker 17 (22:47):
I think that's pretty much yes to all those questions.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
Mike.

Speaker 17 (22:49):
Yes, he was acting unilateral, and there are allegations that
he was acting simply from an electoral point of view.
He's got these elections coming up. He's got to deal
with his party who feel that he's just been a
dud chancellor and he's dud for the party and they
may well ditch him ahead of the election. So it
was pretty much a domestic political act on his part,

(23:10):
all right.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
So then we come to Marina Penn, who, along with
her fellow operators, isn't caught at the moment, and I
note this is due to be wrapped up at the
end of November and they're asking for a couple of
years in jail. So several part questions is she in trouble,
is she going to jail? And where where's that whole
the Penn movement at She's in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 17 (23:29):
I've been to a couple of days of this court
hearing now, which has been going on for about six weeks.
It does look as though there is evidence to convict
her and some twenty other members of her party and
of officials within her party and employees for embezzling funds. Essentially,
what they did, Mike was that when what was then
the National Front were MPs in the European Parliament, they

(23:51):
were taking money as European Parliamentarians and using it to
pay for people to work for the party back in
France for the French art of the party, and that's
e Belzemunt. And we're talking about millions and millions of
euros on this. So it does seem the evidence is there.
You do have to remember though that this is just
the prosecutor's request. Nevertheless, last Mike, it is pretty clear

(24:14):
in the legislation that was put forward by Parliament version
by Parliament that if she has found guilty on these
charges then there is an automatic withdrawal of her ability
to be able to stand for public office and to
serve in public office for five years. This is a
real nail in her coffin of the judge decides on
that because that takes her out of the running for

(24:35):
twenty twenty seven presidential election, which was the one that
she's been looking at as a last possible chance. Certainly,
a lot of people say, well, you know, if she's
found guilty, that's the end of it. Good for her,
Off she goes. Others are saying, well, is this what
we really want to see? How we want to see
the end of her career?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Oh, it's a pleasure, Catherine. Catch up next week Catherine
Field in front by the way, just before we leave Europe.
German manufacturers one of what they're calling a formidable crash.
So manufacturing is a problem interesting to read about Germany.
Germany once, as I keep saying, the powerhouse of Europe
has completely fallen by the wayside. German firms have been
hit by a number of problems. What are those problems?
Energy prices, that's Europe wired, the Russian invasion, europe wide

(25:14):
general inflation, competition from China, but the rundown German infrastructure
rail network, Bridges wrote, who would have thought that? Germany's
literally falling apart and just quickly. If you want something
else to worry about out of Europe, palmer Ham's in trouble,
all sorts of diseases and the pigs. The cost is
going up. It's an old family process or an age
ol process. From Amelia Ramana and you can add it

(25:36):
to the oil, you can add it to the coco,
you can add it to the coffee. Everything's becoming more expensive,
if not very very hard to get hold of. Palmerhm,
enjoy it while it lasts ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
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Speaker 2 (25:50):
I note with a certain amount of irony that Anne Seltzer,
who came to our attention during the election campaign in
America a couple of weeks ago, with that much talked
about so called bombshell poll forty seven forty four in
Iowa and all of a sudden, Kamala Harris was leading.
Was it an outlier? Yes it was. And what's miss
Seltzon announced she's doing. She's retiring. So that's the end
of that. Gannet Media, that owns the Des Moines Register,

(26:14):
said the poll will evolve as we find new ways
to accurately capture public sentiment and the pulse of Iowan's
on state and national issues. So we'll look forward to
the evolution. Morning Mate bang On read the Marray Party,
if someone formed the Women Party would represent all women,
of course. Not not funny how one word gets everyone

(26:34):
so exercised. Mike Luxon's misjudge badly. The public feeling on
Seymour's bill, will talk to him about it tomorrow. He's
changed his appointment with us till tomorrow. He did it
pre apex, so we're assuming that he's going to do
whatever he does today with the protest and then come
on and explain himself tomorrow. Sex Away from seven and
the outs.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
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Speaker 2 (26:58):
Right jobs, where are we at good? We have a
laranche of numbers for you. Sit up, pay attention because
I've got a question for you at the end of it.
This is the October SEEKH Employment Report. Number of job
abbs down for the third consecutive months, adds a down
one percent, so it's not the end of the world.
Applications for job are up one percent once again, not
the end of the world. So applications for job and
this where it's a bit ugly, have risen year on

(27:20):
year in all industries except farming, animals and conservation. Month
on month, the biggest job ad drop was twelve percent
in Marlborough. That's material contributes to a forty four percent
year on year drop in Marlborough forty four percent. Gisben
down nine, Tasmen down seven, Canterbury of Northland down four
apiece pay of plenty in Auckland down a couple Canterbary

(27:42):
and Auckland declines. They're the main reason for the national
figure because of course you get a lot of people
in those markets, the big markets, some of the regions
looking to grow well, and we got a add ups
and it adds up. In Wellington, Come on, Wellington once
the protest has come through. This job's galore for you.
Up three percent, booming on the coast as it always is.
Up eight percent out West five percent in Otago four percent,
manu or two sector my sector, what can I tell you?

(28:03):
Biggest drop Insurance and super down twenty six percent in
October compared with September, A very big drop. Advertising in
media down twenty four percent, real estate down thirteen, Science
and tech down nine, education and training down nine, legal
down seven, healthcare, medical, sport and recall down. Sex. If

(28:25):
I can be controversial just for a moment, I know
it's outside my purview. Advertising in media in other industries
that I'm not as expert in as I am in
media is the sector in the area like real estate,
like science, tech, education, legal? Are they actively working the
way I would argue some in the media are actively

(28:47):
working to destroy their own industry. So, if you're in education,
are you actively looking to ruin your own sector the
way that so many people I could name but I
won't this morning here actively looking to seek wreck their
own sector? Just the question to ponder on increases. There
are some increases for jobs eighteen percent in banking and
financial services, fifteen percent increase in government, defense design an

(29:11):
architecture up eleven, hospow, tourism, call centers, customer service up eight,
community services up seven, engineering up five, trades and services, construction,
marketing and comm's jobs, accounting, office jobs, and consultancies are
all either one percent up or they're sitting flat at zero.
I think they handle that barrage of stats very well.
Question the prize eight hundred thousand dollars first caller in

(29:36):
what was the number I gave on the West Coast ring?
Now I'm joking, there is no price news for you.
In a couple of months.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
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Speaker 2 (29:58):
Only seven past seven to The protest culminates today in
the Capitol with a lot of people turning up at
Parliament and charge of keeping it all in order are,
of course, the police. The district commander Curry panels with us.
Curry morning to you.

Speaker 15 (30:09):
What am I?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
You're feeling good about it all?

Speaker 15 (30:12):
I am like you. A month's worth the planning's gone,
unto us, so beautiful down in the Capital City and
everything's looking good at this stage.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
A month's worth of planning. What's involved in that?

Speaker 15 (30:24):
Lots of meetings across with their partners within police. But yeah,
perfect management plans, so you're lots of layers go in
near But you know, the Capital City we're not immune
to this stuff. We weekly have major events, so well
prepared and planned for this.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
All of the numbers that are being bandied about the place,
do you have any idea how many people there will
actually be?

Speaker 15 (30:47):
Yes, I've said all the way through that's never an
exact science around numbers, but I'm fairly confident from what
I've seen over the last few days here we can
anticipate an excess of ten thousand minimum to day we've
planned for higher numbers, but that said, at the moment
it's the sort of sense I get.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Of okay, ten power, so the media is reporting thirty,
so they might have got carried away. If doesn't materially
change what you do and how you do it, if
it's ten versus thirty.

Speaker 15 (31:17):
It doesn't for me. In terms of the planning, we've
planned for both scenarios there and the abilities of scale
up operations or a descale down Accordingly, for today is.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
The most worrying part. The dispersal at the end and
where the people go peacefully.

Speaker 15 (31:33):
I'm quite comfortable. We've had tremendous engagement right throughout the
last weekend and asked with the Hikoi leadership. What we've
seen has been peaceful and they've stuck to their intent.
I see no departure from that today. Quite confident in
terms of post the parliament phase today there are some
celebrations back at quite tiny part, but the general sense

(31:56):
I'm getting from the interactions I've had people are fortu
of the more to today.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Yeah, well appreciate it. Corry Parnell, who's the Wellington Police
District Command and i'men at the past seven the problem
of course, as the protest affects a large part of
the capital and businesses as they're going to move from
one side the park in other words, through town out
the other side to Parliament. Business Central CEO Simon archis
with us. Good morning, Good morning to you mate. What's
your expectation for the day as a business owner.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, I think we've just driven out just through the
city are to work and I must say it is quiet,
it's peaceful and it seems like it's well organized. I
think it will be a low impact day and we're
certainly thinking back to those days of the Parliamentary occupation
and the lessons learned from that.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
So this is a protest not an agro day.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Look, the pritists have been clear that it's peaceful all along.
People seem to be in a relatively relaxed mood as
I drove through, and it doesn't seem to be too
much as you buddy, all so I think it will be.

Speaker 18 (32:54):
A peaceful day.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Good, let's hope. So the inconvenience fact, did there's this
worry or upset business or it's one of those things.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Back in the back of your mind, I think, is
that Parliamentary protest which dug in for so long and
then we certainly must and want it must avoid this time.
But yeah, there is a little bit of those those
stores and retailers, particularly around that Parliamentary railway station area.
He'll be there'll be a little anxiety, but hopefully that'll
be all over by the end of.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
The day, let's hope. So how many people are actually
affected in the sense it moves from the park through
town out to Parliament, so that's a lot of people
it does.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
It goes sit straight down the Golden Mile, and I
think it will be it will be disruptive, but for
a relatively short time. There's a few hours and so
rather than say days or nights which we had in
the past. I think the disruption you're going to have
quite a few retailers disrupted, but I think overall relatively

(33:53):
low impact on all.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Right, Simon go well, Simon Arcus, who's the Business Central CEO.
It's eleven minutes past seven passing intend versus thirty thousand
some of the media, the Herald came up to thirty,
so it starts off up to thirty thousand people are expected.
I mean, if you watch the lead on TV one
last night they were busy counting how many people were
coming when they clearly don't have a clue. Victoria University
in the Herald article to quote a Victoria University told

(34:15):
students and staff more than thirty thousand people reestimated to
take part. How do they know? Literally, we're making numbers up, Mike,
catching a train from hut Towellington much busier, lots of
children going to protest. And then that's another side story,
I guess, Mike. Why is Chris Hopkins going to the
march today reinforcing to voters that he agrees with to
party marriage to potentially lose more labor voters. He's misread
this appallingly. He can be against the legislation, but he

(34:37):
knows as well as anybody else the legislation is going nowhere.
He knows as well as anybody else. You would hope
that this basically is a recruitment drive for the for
the Marray Party and this is their thing, not his.
And to appeal to middle New Zealand, which you have
to to be a major political party in this country.
You do not hang with fringe players. Mike. Yes, absolutely,

(35:00):
Education is trying to wreck the profession it's run by
unions in the left wing Education Council. N ZEI has
told their members to attend the hekoy and encourage their
students to the reference. I was asking before the seven
o'clock news people on jobs are people actively within their
own industry ie the media, looking to destroy the credibility
and thus the jobs. And then I'm watching TV or

(35:22):
what passes for TV three news last night in reference
to the protest.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It's going to be a big day, Jilla, and you're
gonna have a front row seat to it.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
So enjoy yourself. Enjoy yourself. And that's how these clowns
handle the stuff. This is no longer US. It's shits
and giggles, it's fun time, it's carnival coverage. There's a
social media post featuring a Radio New Zealand host which
has now been taken down. It did not meet Radio
New Zealand's editorial standards. This particular person is the co

(35:50):
host of their Saturday morning program. She's snuggling up to
Eru Kapakini, who's the organizer of the protest criticized by
the ACT Party. Broadcaster Radio New Zealand, funded by the taxpayer,
not acting in partially Radio and New Zealand in the
usual spineless way, is subject to integrity and conduct standards,
including those of impartiality. It's time these standards were enforced.

(36:11):
This is the act party. The social media post did
not meet the editorial standards, but you're ready for it,
but was posted on a channel not operated by the broadcaster.
So that's the same as this place. So I flop
my you know what out on Facebook and enzid me
then go, well, I'm sorry, it's on Facebook. It's got
nothing to do with us. You think they're going to

(36:32):
let me get away with that? Of course they're not. Man,
you do one new dive bomb exactly. So that's where
the media is at and that's my whole thing. And
I've got a very interesting study this morning from the
Pure Research Center telling us why media is where it is,
how they've dug themselves this massive hole, and where everyone's
gone to get their news coverage from, and none of

(36:54):
us given the behavior the aforementioned what was it they
were saying on TV three, y it's can be a.

Speaker 10 (36:59):
Big day, jiller, and you're gonna have a front row
seat to it, so enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, enjoy yourself, political letters that go and enjoy yourself
and you wonder why they're in trouble. Fourteen Past the.

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up with him after eight seventeen past seven. The arrest
yesterday the Fame broadcast Rellen Jones in Australia was both
a shock and if you've followed the story really for decades,
perhaps not a surprise at all. By the end of
the day he was released but charged twenty four offenses
against eight alleged victim. Sidney reporter for the Today Show,
Jack Harnes with us Jack Morning.

Speaker 12 (37:38):
Good morning to my guests. There's certainly a polarizing and
powerful figure here in Australia that really cannot be understated.
So look, this news not necessarily a surprise to some,
but probably a shock to many, just given the nature
of the charges and the way that I unfolded yesterday, and.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Interesting the level of resource and over many, many months
the police put into it. So I mean this has
presumably been coming for some time.

Speaker 12 (38:04):
Yeah, so a nine month investigation, a special strike force
was set up by the State Police here in New
South Wales. Some of the best and brightest detectives put
on the cave. Many of those detectives were attached to
the child abuse Squad and we saw all of that
resource on display yesterday when they raided his twenty million
dollar Australian dollar apartment block at Circular Key. It's nicknamed

(38:26):
the Toaster Building, overlooks the Harbor, the Harbor Bridge and
the Opera House, and yesterday it was swarming with about
a dozen detectives carrying out a search warrn to those
detectives telling us that Alan Jones was calm, he of
course requested his legal team and they were there very
very quickly, speaking with detectives carrying out that search warrant.

(38:48):
And then after about four or five hours, he was
whisked away in an underground car park in the back
of an unmarked police car. Driving away. He was stony
faced at times. He was in a green jacket and
taken to a city police station where he was formally
charged and as you mentioned, twenty four offenses he is
now facing.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I read a book twenty years ago called Jonestown by
a guy called Chris Masters, and the allegations, or some
of them at least, were in that book. Why have
the police taken till twenty twenty four.

Speaker 12 (39:17):
To do anything, Well, that's a very good question. Look,
some of the reporting that has come out more recently,
particularly in December of last year, yesterday, some we've seen
your police are saying, Look, that reporting helped. It didn't
necessarily help in the investigation, because obviously when you're doing
a police investigation, you need to obtain evidence that can
be used in court beyond a reasonable doubt. But what

(39:37):
that reporting did yesterday last year, I should say, it
put this conversation back in the public spotlight and it
empowered victims, according to police, to come forward to tell
their story, to detect this, to help to help them
form this brief of evidence. So really, as I've mentioned there,
over the last twelve months or so, there's been new
reporting that has put this back in, these allegations back

(39:59):
into the public spotlight, and police have said that that
has helped and empowered victims to come through because they
have said that it's a very difficult journey for a victim,
particularly with this historical nature of the allegations to come
forward perhaps ten or twenty years after these incidents and
tell their stories. But that's allegedly what these victims have
done and will obviously hear their stories play out when

(40:21):
the court process plays out.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Appreciate your time, Jack, Jack Hun He's back in court
December eighteen. Is Ellen Jones. He, of course, as he's
done all these years, pled not guilty to all of it.
So it'll be fascinating follow the trial given that historically
it's not only a difficult journey for the alleged victims
to tell, but of course the evidence issue in a
court setting will be interesting to follow us well. A
lot of you texting about police helping protesters paint flags.

(40:45):
As luck would have it, Mark Mitchell, Police Minister, is
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So the good news about the arrival today of this
protest is that after today, of course it's over. Thank god.
This has been one of the more misrepresented activities in
recent years. Hard to know what it's actually about, or

(41:58):
whether those taking part even know what it's about. I mean,
is it about the Principal's bill. Is it about a
general attitude towards the government and Maori policies? As a
pr stunt for the Maori Party? Perhaps most importantly of all,
what does it achieve? And the answer, of course is nothing.
The bill, if that's what it is about, dies after
the select Committee process, and even if it didn't, although

(42:20):
you are more than justified to protest, a protest doesn't
change the right of a government to do what they
promised they were going to do. It's called democracy.

Speaker 19 (42:26):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Democracy is slightly complicated by MMP, which may or may
not produce what you thought it might when you voted.
But democracy, ironically is what led to MMP in the
first place, because we all voted for it. So the
two winners from my view out of the so far
are the Maori Party, who've got a lot of attention
and drummed up good numbers in various parts of the
country for their campaign. They have of course alienated themselves

(42:48):
from many, but one they don't care and two you
were never voting for them anyway. The other is David Seymour, who,
whether you agree with him or not, has argued coherently
and eloquently not performing so well. We include here the media,
who yet again have sided too often with the protest.
I saw a reporter. I mean, I gave you the
examples before, but I saw a reporter singing, you can't

(43:10):
make this stuff up, literally singing as part of her reportage.
I saw a reporter dispute official figures from the police
for the turnout, as though a dispute is in fact
part of journalism these days. Jenny Shipley talking of civil
war was an astonishing thing, as any of I've seen
in recent times. At least Chris Finlason and weighing and
kept his head in a country with real and serious problems.

(43:32):
A bill destined for the waistbin is not worth the
energy this has been given. Priorities are all over the place.
We have looked shabby, We've looked unhinged. We've looked violent,
We've looked low rent. We are not living up to
expectations of our potential. This is not the country I
grew up in, or indeed love. It is a wayward
place at the moment and desperate need of some serious
leadership and even more discipline. Pasking, do you really believe

(43:55):
that pissing a whole lot of people off, creates hassles
for every everybody going to Is it going to help
their cause? They don't care. This is not the point.
I think You've got to understand what Mari party about
is appealing to one to two percent of people. They're activists,
they're extremists, they're radicals, and as long as they're getting attention,
that's all they're interested in. What the speaker who's let
us all down shockingly so far. Unless he comes to

(44:19):
the House this week and sends it off quick smart
to the Privileges Committee and the pressure goes on the
Privileges Committee. What I would do is take all of
those who jumped onto the floor and started dancing. They
are banned from Parliament. The best thing you can do
is suck the oxygen out of their publicity machine. Finding
them does nothing. Telling them off does nothing. Telling them
not to do it again does nothing. Banning them from

(44:41):
Parliament at least for a period of time solves the problem.
Mike ask Mitchell, why are police who have been photographed
helping the hekoi paint the signs? How is this possible?
It's not a bad point. I'm looking at the photo.
There is no question that there are police painting signs,
and one would need to ask the Police minister, how
is that possible? Why is it possible? Is he going

(45:02):
to do anything about it? Or is he going to
utter those famous words? It's an operational matter, Police Minister
Mark Mitchell. After the News, which is next? You're a news.

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Speaker 2 (45:24):
He'd be Ruth Darby has announced a tour comedy tour
back to his roots. Of course, hasn't been on stage
in that capacity for over ten years. So he's on
the program from Los Angeles after right this morning, twenty
three minutes away from it. As we mentioned at the
start of the show, Police Minister was on the beat
in the Capitol yesterday spreaking the fact that crimes in
a lot of areas is down, and perhaps we can
argue that the crime wave and sense of hopelessness weird

(45:46):
and endured these past several years, might have finally come
to an end. Remembering, of course, the Minister said things
would improve or he would quit anyway. Police Minister Mark
Mitchell as well, it's very good morning to you Good morning, Mike.
Rhetoric versus the fact. To be fair to you, what
you do, you say, it's not over and there's a
lot of work, you know, to do. What are the
areas that you are still concerned about.

Speaker 19 (46:07):
So basically the same things that we came in government.
It's the gangs, the fact that the numbers have grown,
on the fact that they are a lot more violent,
the caring forums are willing to use them, and just
the general misery and harm that are inflicting on the
communities that they're in. So big focus on gangs and
you would have seen that there's been some pretty tough
policing around the gangs, but we've got a lot more
work to do violent retail crime, so the violent part

(46:30):
of the retail crime where the real human cost sits.
Although we're starting to see reduction on that, again, a
lot more work to do. So yeah, those are probably
those were sort of the two major areas that we've
really been focused in home in on.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Would you were you asked actually yesterday, are you going
to resign to people to the media still has to
you about resigning or are you feeling confident within yourself
that you've done enough to defend your reputation and stay
in the job.

Speaker 19 (46:57):
Well, there used to ask me, there're a lot at
the beginning of the time, at the beginning of this year,
but they've sort of they've stopped asking me about it.
But I just thought it was coming up twelve months
and it was important for me. I did that to
hold myself to account because we're in such a bad
place as a country that the expectation is that whoever
took over as police minister, it's a huge responsibility. You've

(47:17):
got to show that your things are changing. Otherwise I
wasn't the right guy for the job or the right
person for the job. So we are starting to see change.
Like I said, we've got a long way to go,
but we're starting to see some trends moving in the
right direction.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So I mentioned at the very start of the program
that things have changed for the better. And I asked
about ram raids, and ram raids don't seem to be
a thing, And everyone texted me and said, well, what
about the digger in the wire wrapper the other day?
But I mean that aside. I mean the ram raid
issue which plagued us literally daily for months on it,
and that seems to be under control or am I wrong?

Speaker 19 (47:51):
No, No, that's that You're right. It looked the reality
of is this crimes they're going to go away completely.
As long as humans have been around, there's bad people
that do bad things. But you know, we've reached, in
my view, a point in New Zealand where we should
be able to say that we're one of the safest
countries in the world and that tourists and people and
retailers and shopkeepers and their workers and people can go

(48:12):
about their lives feeling reasonably safe. And we were going
we were heading in the wrong direction, so it was
time to stop and reverse that. And I want to
say that's not attributable to me. I mean it's the
fact that, yes, I've got the privileged position of minister,
so I can bring everyone together. The Orkland CBD is
a good example where we've brought the residents and rape

(48:33):
PARSS groups together. The business associations are social service providers
Mary Ward and cpn Z KOMSD, Police Saint John's. We've
all come together, we've been aligned. I had my latest
meeting on Friday and we've seen real success. So I've
been going around the country trying to pull that together
and trying to get some real change. And it's happening.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Given what you're up against with Australia and recruitment. What
are our numbers and recruitment like.

Speaker 19 (48:56):
Yeah, so we're well on track to delivery now five hundred.
We've got through strong pipeline of recruits coming in. We've
increased the numbers now at the college to one hundred
on the recruit wins. Yes, the Australians. The Australians have
been here for decades trying to recruit our police officers
and the reason is they've got their own problems and
our police officers are so good. But the good news
is we're not seeing huge numbers go to Australia. Some

(49:18):
will go, but most will stay.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Okay, new Commissioner, When.

Speaker 19 (49:23):
So an announcement around that is a minute?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
What's that day's weeks?

Speaker 12 (49:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (49:28):
Days, So we'll be announcing the new Do.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
You know who it is as you sit and talk
to us now, yes, I'll just the decision has been.

Speaker 19 (49:39):
Made, Yeah, it has. Yes, decisions we made.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Okay, are you going to meet the protesters today?

Speaker 19 (49:46):
Look, I think that it's important to go out and
meet the protests and there will be a group going
out on behalf of the government to do that, but
the makeup of that group, I don't decide.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
On that, Okay, but that has been decided and new
know who they are.

Speaker 19 (50:02):
I know some, but I don't know if there's been
a final decision.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Has there been any guarantee And I think Seymour wanted
to guarantee if who's going and go out and meet
that people would actually be listened to and not yelled
down or sung down. Do you have that assurance or
are you just going out and taking your chances.

Speaker 19 (50:16):
I don't know if we're seeking that assurance, But I mean,
if you're really serious about a genuine dialogue, then why
would you shout down people that have gone out to
meet you? So I hope that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Have you seen on social media the police painting signs
for the protesters.

Speaker 19 (50:32):
Yes, that was raised with me yesterday and my officials
meeting by the Commissioner, and we both agreed that in
terms of maintaining public confidence, it's very important that our
police service has been seen as politically neutral. But they've
got their own processes, etc. To be able to deal
with those So.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Is somebody taking care of that, because that's not politically
neutral and it's not the job of a policeman to
paint signs.

Speaker 19 (50:57):
No, that's right.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
So yes, yes they are, they're being sorted out. Yes,
what goes through a police person's mind to do that.

Speaker 19 (51:09):
Look, I don't want to I don't want to speculate
on that. All that I'd say is that especially our
young police officers who probably aren't that politically engaged, but
are very engaged with their communities. And this is the
this is the irony that I that I sort of
find about this thing, is that our police did an
outstanding job over to Podokey on the East Coast recently,

(51:31):
completely taking down the Munglbab barbarians who were wreaking havoc
in some of the provincial towns over there, particularly Podokey,
And immediately there was a whole lot of very emotive
rhetoric come out from T Party Mary and others saying,
you know, heavy handed by the police, that using.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
The terms raids, terrorism, terrorism.

Speaker 19 (51:54):
Terrorism, all this sort of stuff, heavily critical of our police, who,
by the way, that wasn't None of those allegations were true.
Our police do an outstanding job, and yet when they
I don't hear any of them saying anything. When you
see our police officers actually integrating with the community and
doing that sort of stuff, they are very good at it.

(52:16):
So I don't know what these young constables were thinking,
but they are young. They're not necessarily politically engaged. Most Kiwis,
I say eighty percent of Keis don't pay much attention
to politics. However, the important thing is that our police
is seen to be political neuture. It's critically important for
maintaining public confidence, and the Police Commission and the Police

(52:38):
are aware of it, and they have got internal processes
to be able to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Appreciate time as always. Make Mitchell back on the program
tomorrow with Junie Anderson after eight o'clock. In Politics, Wednesday sixteen, Too.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Good the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I'd be thirteen minutes away from eight. Shane Jones's piece,
as I mentioned earlier on if you have read, it's
a must read and represents many people, particularly well the
Marray Party is held Beny Wright on creating parliamentary disorder
to boost their membership. That's essentially what it's all about
the lemmings from the Green Party in the Labour Party
followed accordingly a choreograph clobbering at Parliamentary Convention a display

(53:16):
of contempt. Middle New Zealand is gobsmacked that this jarring
spectacle has electronically zipped across the globe. They are repulsed
that this will be the new screenshot of God's own.
More importantly, they are fed up with the division and
are aggrieved their MPs was stopped from voting. Hezbala, loving

(53:36):
Greens and impotent Labor applaud this tainting of the biggest
court in the land. What an excellent line, Hesbela. Loving
Greens and impotent Labor applaud this tainting of the highest
court in the land. The Kiwi electoral midriff may be
slow to stir, but they're infuriated. They can sense manipulation,
the Hi Khoi, the Khar Khoi, the Koru Khoi. Given

(53:57):
the significant number of protests jetting to where Ellington is
a Green Murray party recruitment drive severe penalties and this
is the most important point. Severe penalties must be handed
out to MPs who treat their place of work as
a platform for personal menace. Justifications of cultural entitlement a hogwash.
So the pressure is on the Privileges Committee and the

(54:18):
press is on Brownly to send it to the Privileges Committee.
It is true, right Chane Jones, that much of our
legislation is a wash with treaty references. This is worsened
under Labor. They have indulged tribal sovereignty fancies and distorted
the role of the treaty. They have elevated the woke
class above the working class. Over recent decades, we have

(54:39):
endeavored to settle treaty historical grievances. It seems to count
for nothing to the wide eyed faces of the hecoy.
And then we come to the media generally, and this
research I alluded to earlier on this morning out of America,
but its global. From the Pure Research Center, twenty percent
of Americans regularly get their news from news influences these days.
Why are they turning off the television? I just going

(55:01):
to watch the television to see why they're turning off
the television For news and traditional media is going down
the gurgler, unfortunately at a rate of knots. But so
much of it, unfortunately is driven that way by the
behavior of people in the traditional media. Sixty five percent
said they found the information they got from news influences
helped them better understand the world. Forty percent of adults
under thirty who are included in the studies say they

(55:22):
stay in form from independent social media figures. The shift
has been playing out since at least twenty sixteen, part
of its convenience. Of course, x remain the most popular site.
Eighty five percent of influencer respondents reported being on the site.
YouTube of courses in there as well, along with Instagram.
So as the old fashioned if you like media dies,

(55:43):
I would argue many of them have got no one
to blame but themselves. But you can see from those
numbers where they've gone. Ten away from APE.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
The Mike Hosking, Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, news,
togstead bes just.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
On related matters in the media. Funnily enough, I read
this morning that Joe Scarborough and Mika Brazinski, who are
the hosts, happen to be married. Not that that matters,
but they're co host of the program called Morning Joe
and a company your station called MSNBC very left wing,
famously left wing nothing wrong with that. They don't purport
to be anything else. At least they're honest about it. Anyway,
Guess what they've been doing. They've been at mary Lago.

(56:15):
They went to see Donald Trump at mary Lago, first
time we've seen them in seven years. What we did
agree to was to restart communication. So, in other words,
they've worked out he's won the election. They want to
suck up to him. And of course you can imagine
what the punters think of that. A betrayal quote unquote
of their colleagues of democracy, of us all. It is
a disgusting show off. Others on social media vowed not

(56:38):
to watch the show anymore. And so it goes. So
they would argue, look, we need you know, he's the president.
We need to be able to deal with the president.
We need to be able to have the president on
the program. We don't agree with them, but we can
agree to disagree. And on that broadly, I actually agree
with them. But you know, having spent so long bagging
them and then going down to Marlago to go h Donald,

(57:00):
it's a bit sad, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (57:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Rotorua, what excellent news, country's capital of business breakings. Oh whoops, No,
it's not so. The highest proportion of commercial business break ins,
at forty per ten thousand residents, goes to Rota Arua
two hundred and thirty seven business breakings over the last year,
one hundred and fifteen percent higher than the urban New
Zealand average, which is only eighteen break ins per ten

(57:24):
thousand residents. Poriiruer lowest level six six versus forty per
ten thousand. That's quite the contrast, isn't it. Auckland is ninth,
five percent under the average. Top ten cities are as
follows and see if you can pick the theme here.
They are Rotorua, Napier, Palmerston, North Hamilton, christ Church, Hastings, Gisbon, Fungarray, Auckland, Nelson,

(57:48):
Provincial New Zealand and other words. While I'm on the
broad theme of crime, what cars are we nicking? Remember
years ago the old Subaru. The Subaru was the most
nabbed how going.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Last I heard it was Demos, Yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
It became Demogos, but it was Sabaru many years ago.
And then Sabari did a very clever technological thing where
they sort of put a thing in it that sort
of beat beaten set it off. Then came the Demigo.
But now there's been a complete shift in the market.
So the number one most stolen car in the country

(58:23):
is the high Lux. Now it could be that because
there are so many high Luxes or high LuxI as
they like to say, a toyota and plural. Because there
are so many high LuxI, that sort of stands to
reason that they will get next to it. Nevertheless, here's
also this comes from money Hub. By the way, an
analysis of stolen vehicle DARD from the police over the

(58:43):
last six months. Important to point out it's only the
stuff that was reported stolen, so a lot of stuff
isn't reported stolen. One hundred and seventy one Highlucks are
stolen or high Luxie stolen. Top four models. See if
you can spot the theme here Top four models stolen
of the high Ace will the Highlux obviously followed by
the high As, followed by the Ford Courier, followed by

(59:04):
the Nisa Navara.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
So it's because they're full of tools, right.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Not bad, Glenn, we don't know that for sure, but
they are commercial vehicles hence they.

Speaker 8 (59:13):
But by the way, the pleural of Highlight is actually.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
High Lie highlight my apologies, so seventeen high Lie got
next news for you in a couple of moments, and
then we're on the boards. Reese Darby's back first two
and over a decade. Rees Darby from Los Angeles. After
the news us talk.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
See your trusted source for news and fuse the mic
Hosking breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue.
Can use togs that'd bin.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
It is seven past eight. Res Darby back to where
it all the game. We've got the first confidence who
are coming in a decade under selling his undoubted talents.
He's called it the legend. Returns are Restarbing is with
us out of LA. Good morning, Good morning. I have
many probing questions to ask you, but first one is
fabulous choice on the color of tiles and what I'm

(01:00:09):
assuming is your kitchen.

Speaker 8 (01:00:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 20 (01:00:13):
Yes, I guess my wife has credit for that, Rosie.
Although we do we do chat, but that's that's Yeah,
we have a lot.

Speaker 8 (01:00:21):
Of people that come in.

Speaker 20 (01:00:22):
It's not really an American thing having tiles in your
in your kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
So you've renovated, Yeah, we did this.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
About a year ago. Yeah, we're happy with it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Good on you as you should be in beautiful covering
behind it with the glass and the whole thing. Things
clearly going well for your Reese, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Well, you know, you know.

Speaker 20 (01:00:45):
You've got to I mean, so many everything's on zoom now,
you can't have a bad backround.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
No, No, that's exactly right. Talk to me about you're
in Los Angeles, I should explain. Talk to me about
what Eva Longoria described the other day as she left
America post the election. She's now living in Spain, and
I think she's claiming Italy as well, but she called
America dystopian. Do you do you see it as dystopian currently?

Speaker 20 (01:01:12):
I think everyone's on edge. I think, you know, it's
really really divided here. I live in California. I live
in a bubble.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
It's almost like.

Speaker 20 (01:01:21):
A separate place really to the rest of America.

Speaker 8 (01:01:26):
We like what we have here. We all get on.

Speaker 20 (01:01:28):
I mean, yes, there's a few differences. There's you know,
Democrats and there's Republicans. But I think, you know, it
was a huge shock for most of us as to
what happened in the election, and people are running around,
some of them are really panicking, like headless chickens, And
I mean, I get it. It's we're in a real

(01:01:50):
state of flux. I just you know, there's no use
cutting your head off and running away.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Though no exactly. And as they will tell you, the
sun and I can see it shining on the left
hand side of your face, and the beautiful California sun
shines every day intensely.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Oh oh, Breece, is that a pool out the back?

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
That's my pool? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
See, do you know what I like about your pool?
Even though I've only just like what you have in California,
and what we don't have in this country are proper regulations.
And if you don't want to fence your pool, you
don't have to fence your pool. And that's a good
looking pool.

Speaker 8 (01:02:27):
Yeah, no, we're not putting a fence around that one.
It's beautiful.

Speaker 20 (01:02:31):
It's an old, like nineteen seventies style. It's been here
for ages. This is an old place that we're living in.
That's one of those pools that you imagine they would
have drained and they would have done a bit of
skateboarding and back.

Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
In the day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, exactly. Have you renovated that as well? If you
if you put little special dolphin shaped tiles in there
or a guitar or something.

Speaker 20 (01:02:49):
No, we've just that that's zazz. At the moment, it's
getting old of it, but we yeah, it's an old,
old system out there.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
But she still goes, do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
You have a pull man? By the way? That classic California?
I got a pool day?

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
No, yeah, that's part of California. That's the la thing.

Speaker 20 (01:03:07):
When you move into a house, a dude will just
turn up the next week and he'll go, oh, I'm
doing your pull mate, okay, and you meet them and
then you know you've got the same with the gardeners
and things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Oh sorry, the stuff you got the gardener? How many
staff have you got? Let's just run through their names
and wish they may have a birthday.

Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
No, I'm not doing that. I'm not not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Home on speaking speaking of your birthday, fifty was that
significant for you? It was?

Speaker 8 (01:03:37):
Yeah, I mean, definitely, it's fifty.

Speaker 20 (01:03:40):
It was upsetting because you think, I mean, my forties
were great, and I feel like you know, I was.
It was just a great decade. But when you hit fifty,
I felt like, well, that's it. I've finished my cool forties.
My naughty forties. Now I'm fifty. But you know in
this in the last six months, I've really started to
own it and accept it, and I'm now okay.

Speaker 8 (01:04:03):
I'm okay.

Speaker 20 (01:04:04):
I'm still very childlike, but I'm okay to be and
I feel good about being an elder statesman.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
As you should listen, hold on here for a couple
of months. You haven't worked this out. By the way,
we're on zoom. Doing this on zoom so you'll be
able to look at his pool in his house later
on the morning and when you get time. Eleven more
from recent moment eleven past eight the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. Howard By
News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Zippy US talks just gone fourteen past eight to reach Darby,
who's coming to the country on tour. I give you
some dates in just a couple of moments. Anyway, the
business reached the business of the tour. I like the
title the Legend Returns. I mean, you didn't want to
oversell it. Obviously, you didn't want to go crazy.

Speaker 20 (01:04:42):
No, No, we bandied about with the idea of the
genius as back, but I think I think we landed
on the legend simply because like I'm fifty, I've done
my I've done my time on Maple Drive, I've treated
the boards.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
People know who I am, and I've got a lot
to show for it.

Speaker 20 (01:05:04):
So when I jump back in these stand up arena,
I had the most fun like in the last six
months getting ready for the show. I'm still working on
material and I'm now really really confident and can't wait
to hit the stage again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
So the show is already, it's out there and you've
been doing it therefore oiling it up and getting it
slick for us.

Speaker 8 (01:05:27):
No, not at all. It's still being created as we speak.

Speaker 20 (01:05:31):
So I'm doing gigs here in the US where I'm
working on material. I've found out recently that I'm really
good at creating stuff on the spot in my shows.
A lot of my previous shows were quite scripted and
they would have a narrative and I know, but this one,
I'm really feeling much more loosey goosey and having fun
with the audience.

Speaker 8 (01:05:49):
So yeah, I'm still pulling it together.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
So when you go to how does that work? So
do they? Obviously they're fans of yours. The vibe is
positive in the room, therefore they're giving you good feedback.
When you get that good feedback as a performer, you're going, yep,
I can. I can run with this.

Speaker 8 (01:06:04):
A bit, one hundred percent.

Speaker 20 (01:06:06):
I really need the energy of the crowd. So sometimes
I've done gigs here and little comedy clubs where no
one knows who I am, and they're used to a
us like an American stand up standing there with the
mic talking about whatever. I come out and I prounce
about and I do a bit of movement and weird
noises and some people are just can't quite fathom it.

(01:06:29):
So I found this much better for me to perform
to my audience and they know what to expect they
and then they really give me the energy and let
me create on the spot. So that's that's kind of
what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
So it sort of answers the question. But was there
a sort of a trepidacious vibe for a while there?
You're thinking, well, I'm going back, it's been a while.
Do I still have it? Will they still love me?
All that sort of stuff?

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 20 (01:06:53):
But last year I did a best of twenty five
years in stand up show where I selected some of
my favorite pieces and I did a UK tour with that,
just a small one, and a whole new level of
audience came out that haven't seen me. I have my
old audience from the Concords, and then a whole new
wave of people from our flagman's death, and yeah, that

(01:07:18):
really invigorated me to want to do a brand new show.
So that's after last year's tour, I just started writing
a new one because I wanted to get back into
it again.

Speaker 8 (01:07:27):
So I feel, yeah, I feel fresh and new again.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
What's the UK connection specifically because I know you're coming here,
but also you're doing UK. I mean it's a long
list of places. You're at Ali Pelly, for goodness sake
in London, the famous Ali Pelly.

Speaker 20 (01:07:42):
I love that venue. I played it last year, so
you know, let's not forget that I did. You know
about eight years of my entire stand up career was
in the UK. So I worked myself up from from
Edinburgh doing small rooms to then heading London and then
playing every comedy club in London there's over three hundred
of those, and then working up getting into the headline.

Speaker 8 (01:08:04):
Spot over a period of eight years.

Speaker 20 (01:08:07):
And so they do know me on the stand up
circuit there and yeah, and it's probably because I played
Edinburgh for like six or seven years in a row
as well that I'm known as a stand up in
that country.

Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
So it's kind of like.

Speaker 20 (01:08:21):
They're my people in terms of the fact that my
style of comedy is very very English, very British, kind
of silly Spike Milligan, Monty Python esque.

Speaker 8 (01:08:33):
So I think they just get me.

Speaker 20 (01:08:35):
And yeah, they're a fantastic crowd.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
So and where your people too, though, oh, one hundred.

Speaker 20 (01:08:43):
I mean New Zealand first, of course, that's why I'm
coming to New Zealand first. But in some ways it's
kind of like there's that kiwi thing of like, all right, mate,
what have you got this time? They're a little bit
of a tougher crowd, you know, it's like playing to
your family, so they're like, oh, yeah, he's just being
a dick again.

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
What have you actually got to say?

Speaker 11 (01:09:00):
Mate?

Speaker 20 (01:09:00):
But I think there's a warmth of New Zealand of
being proud of me, and when I come home, they
all come out and we're kind of just have fun together.
And because of my style of comedy, there's nothing offensive.
It's just about pure mirth and silly fun, and I
think that's what we need right now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Good. And you're a little bit lucky in that sense
because these are these are these are awkward times for
some comedians, aren't they depending on what you can say,
what you can't say. Will you get canceled, will they laugh,
will they hate you? Whatever?

Speaker 20 (01:09:34):
Yeah, definitely, And I think because I don't really open
any doors into something that might get me canceled. You know,
it's I'm not controversial. I'm just very lighthearted and it's
about fun. So it's it's almost you know, I don't
want to say family, but it's kind of definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:09:58):
You're not gonna and I'm not gonn tread on anyone's
toes on stage apart from my own.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Exactly. Have you noticed, by the way, I read something
really interesting the other day, and I didn't realize it
because of the strike in your place, Hollywood and the
right it's never come back. I didn't really. I thought
everything would come back, and it would be the production,
the number of productions, the amount of production, the spend.
It's just never been the same. Do you get that sense?

(01:10:25):
Is that real?

Speaker 8 (01:10:26):
Absolutely? Yeah, it's very slow to return.

Speaker 20 (01:10:30):
It has returned, but not to the full extent, definitely not,
and it doesn't look like it's going to.

Speaker 8 (01:10:36):
And of course we're caught up in the.

Speaker 20 (01:10:38):
Artificial intelligence world as well, and so not only it's
a lot of the production people behind the scenes that
are put the thing together. They are just not getting
the work anymore because it's all being done on computers
and things. So I think a lot of people have
left LA left Hollywood because of the industry is not

(01:11:01):
what it was.

Speaker 8 (01:11:02):
And yeah, it's it's the work is far and few between.

Speaker 20 (01:11:07):
I've got to be honest, and so thank god I'm
a comedian as well, and I can get it back
out and and do my original art form. If I
was an actor, i'd be I'd be a lot more worried.
I mean, I am an actor, but i'd be If
I was just an actor, I would be. I would
certainly be more worried because the work is not there,
and a lot of it is happening outside of the States,

(01:11:29):
which is an advantage to me as well. I can
you know things are happening in New Zealand, Australia, there's
stuff filming, but for people that are here, you know,
they're they're finding the workers is just not.

Speaker 8 (01:11:41):
There right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Fantastic you start a Christmas.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
Shopping Yes, I have because I love it.

Speaker 20 (01:11:47):
I love this season and you can put everything else
out of the way and just think of joy. And
I like going around the shops and seeing all the
Christmas decorations, and of course here in LA they do
a big job on it. So yeah, I'm looking forward
to coming home for Christmas. That's my big that's my
next big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Fantastic A key We some of you can't beat it,
and we're looking forward to these shows next year. Of course.
Lovely to catch up with you and go well and
say hi to all your stuff and your pull man
and all that sort of stuff, and maybe we'll talk
when you get here.

Speaker 8 (01:12:16):
All right, Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
There we go to reuthe Darby out of Los Angeles.
A great interview, Mike. Great to hear from the lad
all the way from the Riverina Primary School and Packeringer.
Thank you Mark for those of you texting on the
tiles saying it's too visual an interview. They're light green tiles.
There's subway type tiles. Who doesn't love a subway type tile?
But that video will be up online. Win's it up
on lines up online. Sometime soon, it'll be up online.

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It's it's going this morning. It's going to be this morning.
The shows are in March next year, Wellington, christ jurch Auckland.
You go to Reyes Darby dot com or indeed ticket
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a long impact on the industry. We had one of
our authors get their book signed by studio that was
then canceled after the strike. This would have been life
changing for her. It's very sad, yeah, it's said, and
once again it brings back the business of industrial action.
So they took their industrial action. Eventually they cut a
deal after they bled the industry to death and held
out and held out, and so how many people then

(01:14:17):
left town? How many people lost their job? And those
remaining how many do you think?

Speaker 15 (01:14:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Oh yeah, I'm so glad I got a pay rise.
You see, you know, big picture, big picture use for
you in a couple of moments. And then let's head
to the UK and rob their news talks. He'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts
across residential, commercial, and rural news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Had been in my ongoing and never ending quest to
promote wool as a general source of all things fantastic.
A new study that I can present to you that
wool has no impact on the marine environment whatsoever and
biodegrades into harmless components. This is against the mic rop
plastic problem, which we all know and loathe. Anyway, it's

(01:15:03):
important the wall industry who did the report say that
consumers know about the benefits of walls. So the benefits
of wall are many, and the rise of synthetics are
seeing the downturn of will obviously, particularly in areas like
carpet and things like that. But this is a joint
research project between Scion and AGG research funded by MB
and it looked at the advantages of wool over synthetics,

(01:15:25):
of which there are many, And so can you save
some money on synthetics course a camp But do you
want to necessarily well? Up until now, the answer is
probably yes, more yes than it is no. Unfortunately, But
when it comes to the environment. If you care about
the environment, you can't beat the natural twenty two minutes away.

Speaker 11 (01:15:42):
From nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
The UK ron little morning, mate, good in how you doing.
I'm very well, indeed, my favorite figure of the week.
And I know star has been in South America along
with all the leaders of the world, or most of
the leaders the world meeting. She will come to that
in the moment. But I was fascinated with COP twenty nine.
The claim is that starmar AND's government had four hundred
and seventy delegates at COP twenty nine doing god knows what.

Speaker 18 (01:16:14):
Sorry, yeah, I'm not hearing it terribly well, I think
it's a bad line. But were we talking about mister
Starmer in Brazil?

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Yes, we can talk about mister Starmer and Brazil. You're
hearing me bitter. Now he's met she and what I
didn't understand much better? Now very good. Well, I'm pleased
to hear that. But she and a British prime minister
have not got together for in a good number of years.

Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
No, indeed, and there are problems and advantages to be
gained here, so questionably, we need a clear policy with
regardless to what we do with China, and I think
the two things which came out of the meeting of
the G twenty summit in Rear firstly were that there
should be no surprises, which is seemingly quoting a head

(01:17:00):
song but nonetheless has a certain sense about it, which
is that we know we have differences with each other,
that we proceed anyhow. And the second thing is that
we need a positive relationship with China. And as seems
as if the meeting went rather well. The problem this
all has for Kirstarmer is that there was much talk
in May, June, July of Labor having an ethical foreign policy.

(01:17:25):
Now it's difficult to reconcile an ethical foreign policy with
being very very close to China. As you guys yourselves
will know, it's difficult to square that circle. It's difficult
for a man who tries to stand up for minorities
not to mention the Veiga Muslims, for example. And it

(01:17:47):
takes us back a little bit to when New Labor
that under Tony Blair first got elected. At first they
said we're going to have an ethical foreign policy, and
then within about two months and I remember the interview,
the interview with Robin Cook, the Foreign Secretary said, well,
it's not so much an ethical foreign policy, it's a
foreign policy with an ethical dimension, which of course meant anything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, exactly. I wonder if she and I mean our
Prime minister meet him as well. And we have a
far greater problem with China than you do in the
scenes that they are our biggest trading partner. Myself much
as said, it doesn't matter. But having said that, he
must be relishing it, she must be relishing it because
of course the angst around Trump has yet to unfold.

Speaker 18 (01:18:32):
Well indeed, I mean it has been an appalling few
weeks for the Labor Party given and that thus for
our country, we have to say, given the victory of
Trump and the very very bad relationships which this government
has with the Trump administration, and I think I think

(01:18:53):
Starmer went into this meeting desperate to build bridges where
ever bridges could be built, and regards frankly, of who
they could be built with. He's attempting to renegotiate Brexit,
he's attempting to have a better relationship with Europe, and
he's now got China partly on side. As well, so
it's a partial triumph.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
By the way, Speaking of problems for the labor government,
the farmers protest, which I noted started in Wales over
the weekend. I think it's hitting to London tomorrow or
the next day. Winter but it is is that big?
Is that going to be like a major.

Speaker 18 (01:19:27):
I suspect not, And you may call me out on
this if I'm proven to be wrong. I don't think
there's a massive reservoir of sympathy in this country for
the farmers when you look at the amount of subsidies
they yet when you look at the tax brex State
get compared to the ordinary person, I think that perhaps

(01:19:50):
that is the one area of the budget where labor
has played a card which may be quite popular.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Interesting in Sharan it's forty years for Bend, doesn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:20:03):
Yes, it's interesting. In the Accherancing he put down vocals
for a new Live Aid back in twenty fourteen, but
has now decided and this is this is just from
our times that he no longer wishes his vocals to
be on the new Live Aid single do they know
it's Christmas? Because he thinks it portrays a negative view

(01:20:25):
of Africa and that's the new mantra that we shouldn't
be trying to help Africa, we should be going there
as tourists or as investors. And so he's trying to
pull his voice off this track and has expressed regret
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
All right, might we'll catch up those I appreciate it,
Rod Little who's in number, and just very quickly before
we leave that particular part of the world. I note
that's Rachel Reeves, who's the Chancellor, wants to pull a
whole bunch of pension funds that's Pinsion reform into mega funds,
which would make them large enough to get into some
serious infrastruction and stuff like that, which on one hand

(01:21:02):
makes perfect sense to me because size is heft, but
on the other hand leads to laziness because when this
competition and smaller people in the marketplace, it tends to
lead to some good competition. And that's before you get
to feed. It's one of the most stunning things I
read the other day. Because superannuation is compulsory in Australia.
The various supplies collect twelve billion dollars worth of fees

(01:21:23):
from super funds each and every year. I also note
once again back to Britain that Marion Thompson has resigned
from one of the world's oldest breastfeeding support charity. She's
quit Lalsh we speak of as an organization that has
become a travesty of my original intent, damning resignation, ninety

(01:21:44):
four year old shift from focusing on mothering to indulging
the fantasies of adults because they've included transgender women and
she doesn't like the look of it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Sixteen to two The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio, Howard By News talks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
That'd be thanks for the wall plug. Mike, You're an
awesomebile advocate. Yes, I am. I love the wallflock. This
comes to his flock if l oc flock, dot co,
dot m z their wall, they're in acoustic interiors made
of wool. I read somewhere about you guys the other day,
and I can't remember where it was that the Herald
of somewhere similar. Look it up. Well worth reading. It's
a very very interesting and I wish you all the

(01:22:22):
success in the world. Morning mate. Great game yesterday between
the Bills and the Chiefs. With that, when the Bills
have beaten the Chiefs in their last four regular season games.
I didn't know that, but the Chiefs have won three
consecutive playoff games against the Bills. So, in other words,
what you're suggesting to me is when it counts, they win.
Fun fact, seventy eight games this season had been decided
by six points a few years, I've noticed that it's tight,

(01:22:45):
mind you. Having said that, yesterday, I didn't watch all
of it because I'm a big fan of the Detroit
Lions these days. The Dan Campbell stories one to follow.
He's very Razor. If you follow American football and you
know Dan Campbell, you'll see the connection between him and Razor.
But they won their big whenever yesterday, and I think
it was last week or the week before. They got

(01:23:05):
basically like their second biggest. When they are scored, they
don't know how to not score. It's just unbelievable and
under normal circumstances, today would be quite an exciting day
because Monday Night football in America is the Cowboys versus
the Texans, and that would be interesting because the Texans
are on a bit of a comeback, but the Cowboys,
useless beyond repair, have a quarterback that they're paying sixty

(01:23:26):
million dollars a year who's currently having sugery will be
out for the rest of the season, and a whole
lot of other problems that I won't bought you with now.
So I'm hoping it'll be an interesting game, but I
suspect it probably won't. Now from the Good Ideas Department,
while we're roughly on the subject of cop and saving
the planet in the world and wool and stuff like that,
NARU have unveiled what they're terming this groundbreaking citizenship investment scheme.

(01:23:48):
So if you want a smooth ride as to be
a citizen of Naru, all you got to do is
hand them some money. It's the NAU Economic and Climate
Resilient Citizenship Program. Investment Migration advisory firm Henley and Partners
have been appointed to design, set up, and manage the program.
A streamline path to citizenship with processing times of just

(01:24:11):
three to four months, so you can do it fairly quickly.
Investors can secure Naruian citizenship through a contribution to the
National Treasury Fund. Now it starts at one hundred and
five US, so let's call it one hundred and seventy
hundred and eighty new Zealand dollars one hundred and seventy
thousand New Zealand dollars for a single applicant. So I'm

(01:24:31):
assuming if if you're a family of four, you're after
seven or eight hundred thousand dollars. Now, the question is this,
even if you're a sort of an eco warrior and
you want to say the world, do you honestly want
citizenship of Naru? What would you do with it once
you got it? I mean, it's one thing to offer citizenship,
and I mean we sort of do it in this country.

(01:24:52):
They've got gold visas. Lots of countries got gold type
or golden type visa where you hand over a lot
of money your started business or employe people. You can
get into the country fairly easily. But they tend to
be countries that you want to go to. I'm just
not and I'm open to correction, but I'm just not
sure the queue's going to be massive of people who
seek Naaruian citizenship. Correct me if I'm wrong. Nine away

(01:25:14):
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
The Lake hosting recist with news Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I can never mentioned the Vikings. What a season they're having. No,
that's true, but I went off the Vikings once kirk
Cousins left to the Falcons, so I'm more interested in
the Falcons these days. Best news I've got in the
last twenty four hours is and I remember, I can't
remember who, I'm assuming it was Greg four and the
head of Air New Zealand. And I said, what is
it you're thinking or was it pre dating him which
would take us back to it? They takes us back

(01:25:41):
to Luxon? Was Luxelon? And charge maybe it was Luckson.
We need to check the date on this, because one
of the stupidest things they ever did was pull out
of London. And I said at the time that what
New Zealanders do when they travel, they have an inextricable
link to the mother country, and once they've landed in
the mother country, they then pop around you. And the
moment you pull yourself out of London, you're no longer

(01:26:04):
taking New Zealanders to the place they most want to
go to. And so in New Zealand, rightly or wrongly,
I think wrongly started focusing on Asia, which is no
bad thing. But then they started focusing on America. And
all that happened with America is of course they had
to cancel their rant Pratt and Whitney problems, had to
cancel the Chicago thing and all the American airlines came
down here an eight hour lunch. So if you want

(01:26:24):
to go to London, you've got to go via. I mean, yes,
technically you can go, but who wants to change airlines
when you don't have to? So you go to Singapore,
or you go to the Middle East, a couple of
options through the Middlitia. You go to Quantus for goodness sake,
Land and Perth and put next stop out of Perth,
next up London. So in New Zealand, not going to
London was a critical, critical critical error. Best flight eiver

(01:26:45):
had was Auckland Hong Kong, Hong Kong London on Air
New Zealand. Stop for one hour in Hong Kong, shower up,
carry on, do it in twenty one hours. It was
the shortest route going. It was brilliant. Anyway, they've got
a slot now at Gatwick because they've finally woken up
to their mistake. They went to Heathrow, said no can
do so they've gone to Gatwick. Got some slots for Gatwick.
So one assumes that in the not too distant future,

(01:27:07):
in New Zealand are going to be back flying directly
to London and that is no bad thing. Five away from.

Speaker 11 (01:27:13):
Nine trending now with Warehouse, the real house of Fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Now, Lamello ball comes from the ball family. How many
balls are there? There's three balls. LaMelo's the star player.
We're going back to American sport here. He's the star
player for the Charlotte Hornets, and he's who's the one
who plays for there is the one for the Lakers. Oh,
he's gone. He was the Lakers guy. So so he's gone.

(01:27:39):
Alonzo Ball's my favorite ball as far as balls go.
I like Alonzo ball as opposed to Lamello ball anyway.
So he's at the Hornets, Lamello and he's been fined
one hundred thousand dollars for some comments during his postgame
interview after beating the Bucks.

Speaker 18 (01:27:54):
What did you see right here when Yannis took that
shot and everyone was underneath the basket for that rebounds?

Speaker 8 (01:28:00):
Said our last place when he took a shut Yeah,
we reloaded up. That's what we wanted, put a hand
up and then never the results?

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Is it just me? Or I'd done? And said, what
do you say? That was wrong with that. Well, so anyway,
social media, we're all too soft. You can't joke about
anything these days. He did apologize, saying he didn't mean
to offend anybody, and he's got love for all. He
makes forty one million dollars a year, does lamellow Ball,

(01:28:31):
mister ball, the Ball family. If you don't understand it,
mister ball. He was one of those fathers who was
drilling his kids from about the age of two and
a half months and they were all going to succeed.
And interestingly enough they all have. They all have happened.
They all three balls, a lot of balls in the air.

Speaker 8 (01:28:47):
You could say there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Are a lot of balls in the air. Really on
were only two balls successful. The third one, the middle ball,
never made the NBA. So problemild middle child. So you
had three balls, D'Angelo ball Orleanngelo, Lamello Loonzo and Lianngelo

(01:29:09):
middle ball never made it. It's a bumma ball. Anyway,
back tomorrow morning, as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
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