Full Show Podcast: 2 August 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted home for News for Entertainment's opinion and Mike
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Blling and welcome today some more medals, Thank the Good
Lord as the rowers come good. At the other end
of the performance spectrum, we have the Transpower Pylon report
and the scrap mail over Compo. We've got the Polytech
reset that's on. We're going to talk wool and carpets
and my fascination with doing New Zealand stuff better. Tim Katy,
you do the week. It's Friday, which mc can stateside
and Murray Old's is in Australia. Pasky, Welcome to the day,

(00:33):
seven past six. So we end the week with a
bit of good health news. We've been way down this week,
haven't we, with a scrap over the fourteen ish layers
of management. No doctorsn't targeted at certain times of the
day for and U CEOs and four regional operations that
allegedly will sort the mess out. Former board members snapping
back at criticism from the Prime Minister of myopic media
trying their best to Outshane Retty in what may or

(00:53):
may not. Most likely the latter will be some sort
of semi scandal around his interpretation of the need to
sack boards. But but the good news the removal the
cancelation of the ethnic diversity equity adjuster. You remember that
was a massive scrap under the last government, who tried
desperately to explain that using race was a good way
to work out who to put at the front of

(01:15):
the non urgent surgery line five indicators. We use things
like age and location, but race was the one that
got most of us upset, given we thought we lived
in a fair and open country where race was not
an issue when it comes to publicly funded services like health.
It was predicated on the idea that Maray are not
well served by health, and in some respects that's true.
But poor old Chris Hipkins, you might remember, God himself

(01:35):
woefully tied up in knots over an example of a
person who lived rurally, many of them mara and how
because you were rural you didn't have the same access
to doctors as you would in the city. Which is true,
But then neither do you if you live rurally. But
aren't maray That particular piece of logic seemed to elude them.
And when faced with the example of two people with
the same conditions and the same need fronting except one

(01:57):
was marrying one wasn't. Why was it fear that race
then made the difference? They couldn't quite offer an explanation
to balance that one out. Ironically, some of the Health
service who reviewed it defended it. But people also seem
to be able to defend Maori seats, Maori wards, Maori
funding services and entitlements that are purely race based. They wondered,
they're so angsty about David Seymore's Treaty Bill When the

(02:18):
scales are tipped that far in your favor, an injection
of balance and fairness and open democracy must be a
bit worrying. So in health the race equity adjuster is
going a reason, if not to celebrate, at least to
be relieved about.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
News of the world in ninety seconds or.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
In prisoners want business this morning because since the Cold
War and a potential win for Biden and his legacy.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Says a lot about the United States that we work
relovancy to free Americans who are unjustly held around the world.
It also says a lot about us. A distill includes
the release of Russian political prisoners. They stood up for
democracy and human rights.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Are we dealing with twenty six prisoners from seven countries?
So from the American point of Gushkovich is the big name,
and they've been working on it for a while.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
The White House Correspondence dinner something like eighteen months ago.
The guests of honor that night were the parents of Evan.
Gushkovich made the pledge to them that night. Journalism is
not a crime. He said, I will do everything I
can to bring your son home.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
One theory is put in Greb Gutskovich for this very reason.
There are some people here that put really really wanted back.

Speaker 6 (03:25):
I mean, we will see who it is.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Picked up Evan in particular, just so he could continue
this nasty business of swapping out the spies and crypto
traders that he wants.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, and now here's the downside.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
If you are releasing convicted criminals, murderers even back into Russia,
and of course there is nothing to stop them from
repeating their crimes at some for date there in the future.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Then we come to Gaza, where the Israelis have struck
a school.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
This school had dozens of families that were sheltering and
seeking refuge in this school. So we're talking about fifteen
Palatinians being killed. Civil defense teams are still trying to
recover as much bodies.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And in Britain's Kia has got a world of pain
to deal with as riots and thuggery sweep the streets
of Britain.

Speaker 10 (04:07):
I call on everyone to give them and indeed the
wider community at Southport the space to grieve and time
for the authorities in Merseyside to do their job.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Filing in Europe tomorrow Bio. They're both in the continents
whereaus Cryo Preservation startup. So it's about three hundred thousand dollars.
Company is going to freeze you in liquid nitrogen upon
death and the hopes that you can be revived in
the future, and the technology is advanced. If you don't
have three hundred thousand dollars, you can go in cheap
at one hundred and fifteen thousand if you just want
to preserve your brain. So far, six hundred and fifty

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people have signed up. We've got five pits already to
be gone as well. Use the world in ninety seconds.
Bank of England over night has moved. This is pivotal.
This is important because there was tremendous anticipation that this
might happen. Five to four was the vote, so she
was close twenty five points off and they're down now
for the cash rate of five percent to a past.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Six my costume breakfast.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Also in Europe this morning, the AI Act, which we've
sort of told you about several times. This is a
landmark ruling, the first in the world. This is to govern,
allegedly the way companies develop, use, and apply AI. It's
finally got approved overnight by EU member states, by the lawmakers,
by the European Commission. So we'll see how it goes.
Fifteen past six.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, I went to my brother to ask for long
because I was.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Busting Andrew Kelleher from Joy My Wealth. Good morning.

Speaker 11 (05:32):
Well, very good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Let me guess Briscoes, in a really tight retail time,
broke another record they did.

Speaker 12 (05:39):
I mean, look, there's signs of stress there, but on
a relative basis are pretty good results. So they reported
their half year sales yesterday. Look, we know it's a
tough retail market. We talk about this all the time.
So in that context of Briscos is quite a good
litmus test, really, isn't it, Because it's proven.

Speaker 11 (05:54):
To be resilient in the past.

Speaker 12 (05:56):
So you would have thought if anybody can survive the
challenging environment, you probably back Briscoes.

Speaker 11 (06:02):
So have they gone well record half year sales? Yep,
I'll say that it can record half your sales. I
wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 12 (06:09):
Positive sales growth across home, we're and sporting goods, so
it's rebel sport. Interesting to see a good contribution from
their online channel, just under ninety percent of sales coming
from there. Look they've even managed to reduce inventory over
the period, which is a pretty commendable achievement.

Speaker 11 (06:23):
But look there is an impact here. Here's the rub.
They've kept sales up, but their earnings.

Speaker 12 (06:28):
Are projected to be below last year, approximately ninety four
percent of what their level of earnings were last year.
So they've guided to a figure of not less than
forty million. Last year was forty two point seven. Now,
what that earnings outcome reflects is, yes, they've managed to
keep the volume of sales up, but they're getting low
margins and so that's where you see the impact of
the challenging environment of margins probably be around one hundred

(06:51):
points below last year. But look, Mike, in light of
what's being reported by other retails, you have to say
it's a strong year. Strong relative performs. Roderke discover as
a significant performance.

Speaker 11 (07:01):
I would have to agree.

Speaker 12 (07:03):
And the share price, even though you sort of slightly
lower projected earnings, share price ticked up two cents, so
that the market sort of did reflect the fact that
that was a pretty good effort in the current environment.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
If I was the warehouse side offer rod Duka job.
But that's just me now. China manufacturing forty nine point eight,
that's not the sort of number we want, is it.

Speaker 11 (07:21):
No, we need to keep reporting what's happening in China.

Speaker 12 (07:24):
It's an important part of our ongoing sort of overall
economic landscape. Will but you know, will continue to be
a headwind for us, particularly for our export performance while
the economy is soft. Yesterday was at least what's called
the Kaijin PMI Pittsing Managers Index, so a measure of
health in the manufacturing sector. It dipped down, so the
index has shrunk slightly. As you say in July, demand

(07:46):
has declined for the first time in twelve months. That's
looking at the new orders components. So that's sort of
a bit of a worry headline index. As you say,
forty nine point eight first outcoming contractiony territory for the
index for nine, that's a not a great outcome. Companies
reporting sluggish demand reductions in client budgets. Kyjen's a private
sector report pointing in the same direction as the official

(08:07):
gauge that sedged down as well. Kyjuen covers the more
sort of private export oriented companies that we have recently seen.
The Chinese Central Bank relaxing monetary policy. That's an attempt
to boost consumption and if they do manage to achieve that,
that will ultimately help give a boost to demand, hopefully
for our exports.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Okay, and then the Dow which is falling through the
floor this morning, is that directly related to what the
Fed did yesterday or not?

Speaker 12 (08:30):
Oh no, it's sort of topsy turvy market, isn't it.
So Fed came out yes, so we spoke. Powell then
came into the press confency basically pointed to or referred
to a September cup with a FED funds rate sheer
market got a boost on that you got all these
results out of the moment in VideA sort of rallied
a lot, and that helped the NaSTA condict. So we
ended up having good numbers for the end of August.
But it's all turned around overnight. And it's reason why

(08:53):
it's all turned around. It's on the back of some
weaker economic numbers. So things like the ism the ism
numbers sort of pointing to a slightly weaker economy.

Speaker 11 (09:02):
Now people are worried about recession.

Speaker 12 (09:03):
So you got the Dow Jones is now down one
point six percent, NA six down almost three percent.

Speaker 11 (09:08):
So look it's volatile, Mike.

Speaker 12 (09:09):
We're waiting on Apple and Amazon and they report after hours,
and so these sort of results, which I said three
days ago, these results were going to be pretty pivotal
in terms of pointing to market direction, and that looks
like it's going to be the case. And that non
fun payrolls number tomorrow on well tonight our time, that
again will sort of point for a direction next week.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Give me the rest of the numbers.

Speaker 12 (09:33):
Sure, the Dow Jones is down six hundred and seventy
five points as we speak, forty one hundred and sixty
five the s and P five hundred down eighty seven
points five four three five, and then na'zdack down five
hundred and eight point seventeen eighty nine to all pretty
weak there Overnight the for two one hundred lorst one
percent eight to eight three, the Necke was down just
on two and a half percent three out one two six,

(09:53):
Shanghai Composite down six. The aussis yesterday just eggd out
a point two eight percent gain eight one one all
was the close, and the ends of Nex fifty actually
gave eighty two points points six seven percent twelve four
hundred and eighty seven. The currencies are moving around a
bit thanks to the central bank shuffle continuing. The kiwis
at point five to nine, five to two against the US,

(10:14):
point nine one five one against the Ossie, point five
to five to one six against the euro is rallied
against the pound point four to sixty seven oh eighty
nine point one five jeen gold twenty four hundred and thirty.

Speaker 11 (10:26):
Eight dollars and breakcruit seventy nine dollars and eighty cents.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
It all came well done. Thank you for that. It
all came clear to me. Your holiday and Byron Bay
the other day was it just suddenly clicked in. So
that was a warm up holiday to the holiday you're
about to take for the next two weeks because you
don't want to go into a big European holiday, could
do you?

Speaker 11 (10:45):
No, you don't.

Speaker 12 (10:45):
But this is a this is a this is an
active holiday, Mike. That was a relaxing holiday. They see,
sorry holiday. They are different things.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know that, Yes, I do. And what's remarkable about
this is it's your sixtieth birthday celebration, So congratulations on that.
I had you at forty seven four eight, so I'm
out on that. And you're on a bike over hill
down Dale for teen solid days. What's the matter with you?

Speaker 13 (11:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (11:08):
Thirty thousand meters of vertical climbing, so I mean some.

Speaker 12 (11:11):
Yeah, we're gonna go and are we challenge climates some
hells climates and mountains and the French outs.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Fantastic. Will you have the best of time. We'll look
forward to seeing you back.

Speaker 11 (11:18):
We will go on.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Andrew callaher from jmiwealth dot co dot m Z sketch
shall beat the second quarter estimates. Rolls Royce the people
who make the airplane engines and not the cars. They
did well. Meta they did okay, but I'll come back
to meta lads. Call com came in. That's good results.
A lot of good results. And if you're im pills
and potions, Pizer good, murk good. So a lot of

(11:40):
good news and reporting season Stage Side six twenty one
reviews Talk sent the Mike Hosking breakfast well in Mike
cart but andred around forty only Jenet, you and me
both in the sense that he's fitting active and if
you fit in that view, you age well. Mike. It's
a relief the ethnicity US MT tillas being removed.

Speaker 14 (12:01):
Key.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
We should all have the same access to public health services. See,
I mean a statement like that, how can you argue
with it? I mean, it's just common sense as it, Mike.
Despite every sane person rejoicing at the end of the
equity adjust to scale comes to us doctors in the
hospital system for management or all about how disappointing it
is and that they're working hard behind the scenes for
other options. Thank you, Andrew. Last time minister about it
on Monday on Tuesday rather six twenty five.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Trending now with Chemist Warehouse stop paying too much.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Government's got there or National Party's got their annual general
meeting first time since the election. Over the weekend, equestrian
silver medalist a guy called Chris Burton, Right, he's going viral.
Why while he's a drinker, nothing wrong with that. He's
infamous because back in twenty thirteen, that's the part where
it went wrong. He told the world that when his
riding wasn't going very well, he was sinking up to
three bottles of spirits a day. So he wasn't too
happy about needing to do interviews after getting his medal.

Speaker 11 (12:50):
Had appear to celebrate yet or.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
In inglod mate.

Speaker 11 (12:52):
I'm pleased you brought that up. I've been whisked away.

Speaker 15 (12:55):
I've been taken for a year, example, taken from press
conference to press conference asking this engineering crap, and all
i want to do is see my mates and colleagues
on the team, and my wife and family and have
a beer.

Speaker 11 (13:07):
But I'll catch up, don't worry.

Speaker 15 (13:09):
I'm a bit surprised you didn't want to do these
interviews tomorrow because we normally turn up completely hungover and
they're the best.

Speaker 11 (13:14):
Interviews you ever get.

Speaker 15 (13:15):
I don't know why you want to hear from a
sober eventing guy.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
What he's referring to as an interview on Australian breakfast television.
This was Rio twenty sixteen. It's now a common question
in line if you've had a bad interview, you say
you've had a Burton.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Are you surprise you how he went?

Speaker 16 (13:29):
That's the thing, you know, that's the unfortunate turn of
three day eventing is that we show jumped last and
he was a little bit showing that he's inexperienced there,
but on the cross country he was absolutely mega.

Speaker 11 (13:43):
In my opinion, Nikol under mountain, that little horse just
quickly did you have a sleep last night? He just
pushed on through? Is it that obvious?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Major?

Speaker 11 (13:53):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't you know
that he is at the Three Bottles today, but I
like his personality speak which Brook Francis with us after
seven O'clock's been wonderful in the rowing overnight, which is good.
What hasn't been wonderful and there are ongoing questions the
Chinese testing in the Olympics is a major and it
hasn't got the coverage it deserves. And as for Angela,
Karini and Joe alluded to this yesterday, she's the Italian

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forty six seconds in the ring and she just hit
the mat. Not because she was hit, she was hit twice,
but she knew if it went on her life. According
to her, she stopped the fight to save her life.
And this is this emman kelliff and how that unfolds
legally at the Games is beyond me as well. So
there's a lot of stuff going on at the Games

(14:38):
that we should be covering more of outside of the medals,
not for the medals aren't good, but there's a lot
of issues there. Anyway, more on that later for you.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like Costing, Breakfast with al Vida, retirement Communities, Life your
Way news tog said be.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Mike, I watched that about last night. The reason for
early capitulation was not provided at the time. Her Algerian opponent, however,
obviously exuded male testosterone. More on that emerge later. A
gross mismatch and Carmedy rightly feared for her safety. What
on earth of the Olympic authorities up to It's a
very good question. Simon Biles, by the way, has just
won the other women's all round as you would have expected.
That's her sixth gold medal, so she's having quite a

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good time.

Speaker 11 (15:21):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know what pegues me about that ethnicity? Bill Kate,
as in my wife, ex host of Early Edition, basically
called it out for what it was months ago, and
she was hauled over the calls by the BSA for it.
I hope they apologized, while they won't. Of course, what
will that mean for Kate and a BSA conviction. First
of all, it's not a conviction. We're not dealing with
the law or a court. It's just a bunch of
people who sit around the table, think they're more important

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than they really are and put out the odd report,
most of which is ignored by us in the media.
But nevertheless, I think they were probably proven wrong. Twenty
two minutes away from seven, we'll go to the States,
Mitch mcannon a couple of moments. As prisoner swap is big,
the implications are perhaps even bigger anyway, on that shortly,
A little bit of government helped too, A little bit
of government hift behind our tourism story that has failed

(16:05):
to fire properly post COVID, And I've told you about
this about a million times we have five million dollars
heading in the direction of regional tourism operators. We had
one hundred and thirty two events nationwide. We'll get a
boost regional tourism New Zealand Chaire. David Perks is with
us on this. David, a very good morning to you.

Speaker 13 (16:19):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I've been concerned for a long time about how lack
of bounce back are you.

Speaker 13 (16:24):
Yeah, for sure, we were going real strong and it's
plateaued at best. Why. I think the domestic tourism economy
is slow as we're in the middle of winter, and
there's concern about the economy of course, as people have
got less money in their pockets. But also I think
there's concerns about long haul travel in the future as well,

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and with a global slow down of economy, concerns about
climate and people looking at other places.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, exactly, and that's part of the problem because you
look at Europe right here, right now, the place is
overflowing with tourists. People will spend money, that will fly.
Do we have a major problem in marketing, branding, storytelling,
whatever it may be.

Speaker 13 (17:08):
I don't think we have a major problem in that
international market, but we do need to get back on
top of that planet. New Zealand's a very long way
to come to and it's really important for our tourism
businesses across every community in New Zealand that we're playing
at the top of our game because we've got a
hard game to play.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
So what you're suggesting, what are you going to do
with this money? So you land in Auckland from America,
you may not know about Kerrie Carey or Timuru. Is
that what this buys or not?

Speaker 13 (17:33):
No, not at all. This is all about getting New
Zealanders out and about right across the country to different places.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So this is domestic.

Speaker 13 (17:40):
So this is domestic tourism, and this is about supporting
small events and regions that probably don't normally get the
tourism limelight and giving them some support to get people
traveling to their regions, whether that's the Man over two, Southland, Cairapati,
the Far North, getting behind events in those places to

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get people to travel to different places at times of
year they're perhaps one other wise travel.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
So it is event based and do you know for
sure that event drives tourism as opposed to I'm going
to Tai rapidly for the beach in summer because it's
a cool place to be.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
Yes, certainly you did. Right in the middle of summer,
we all go to the beach, but at other times
it's a year when we travel. As New Zealanders, we
tend to travel for specific reasons and events are very
specific reasons. And when you look at the type of
events that are being supported, there's lots of participation events.
So if more people know about these events, more people
will participate and therefore they will have a bigger impact

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on the tourism businesses.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
You have KPIs on this by spending five million dollars,
you can come back in the program in a year's
time and say, because we spent that, we got this.

Speaker 17 (18:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (18:48):
Everybody, every event is being asked to record the difference
that has made to them and it will be really
both interesting and I hope exciting to see what difference
that's made for places right across the country.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
To go well with that, David, David perks and have
a good week in Regional Tourism New Zealand Chair nineteen
minutes away from seven as getting this is a part
of the problem rapid growth and cruising. We were booming
and cruising. It was a half billion dollar industry, and
so they looked at the half billion dollars and I said,
I tell you what we'll do. By twenty forty, we'll
make it a one billion dollar industry, reported this morning,
and the Herald read it because it's more detailed than
I've got time to give you now. But the sector's stalled, basically,

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and we've got a couple of seasons coming up that
aren't that good. Problems getting ships here now. Steep cost
increases could be a fifteen to twenty percent reduction in
the number of ship visits and passengers coming this summer,
and that trend goes into twenty five twenty six as well.
Says something Ain't Right eighteen to two. The Mike hosting
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dot m ZSC. Fascinating insight into the killing of that
Hermas leader Ismail and they claim, or the Iranians claimed

(20:45):
and her Mass claimed he was hit by a rocket,
not true. It was a bomb and explosive device that
was concealed in his house weeks or a guesthouse weeks earlier,
detonated remotely once he was inside the particular room. The
fact that the bomb was in the house, which was

(21:06):
under protection of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, has got
to have the Iranians deeply, deeply concerned.

Speaker 18 (21:12):
Fourteen to seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,
peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
What's time, Mitch? How are you?

Speaker 14 (21:20):
I'm good, Mike, how are you?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Very well? Indeed, a big deal in Washington. Guskovich's the
headline act. But there's a lot of prisoners being swapped
all over the place.

Speaker 14 (21:28):
Yeah, big deal for the Biden administration as well. Multi
country prisoners swap involving twenty four prisoners Mike from countries
including the US, Germany, Poland, Benia, Norway and Russia. In total,
sixteen people were released from Russian custody in exchange, eight
people were freed by the West. Now, the most well
known prisoners were Wall Street Journal reporter Ivan Guskovich, who

(21:48):
was arrested last March, and former US Marine Paul Whelan
who was arrested in twenty eighteen, both extremely high profile
cases here in the US. But those are names that
will be known around.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
The world vibe that Putin set up Guskovic simply to
engineer this to make it. I mean, is there any
talk about that in Washington, or we don't care. We've
done the swap and that's good news.

Speaker 14 (22:09):
Or there is some suggestion about that that might be
one of the reasons he held him for so long
despite so much pressure from the Yueys. But I think
it's important to note, Mike, these are not like for
like releases at all, and there's no point pretending they are.
On one hand, you have people convicted in Russian courts
of what the Americas call sham chargers. But then you
also have Russian criminals that are released from Western prisons.

(22:31):
And one of those is a man named Veden Krashikoff,
a former high ranking if SP colonel. He was serving
a life sentence in Germany for executing another man in
public in Berlin. Now he's going to be freed back
to Germany, back to Sorry, back to Russia as part
of this deal.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, then we come to this time yesterday unfolding in Chicago.
Give him his team. Trump's team pulled him out early.
You got to wonder what the hell he was doing
there and how it was ever going to go well.
But I just can't work out did he get the
headlines he wanted or was looking for, or did it
just all go wrong.

Speaker 14 (23:04):
Well, he's got a lot of negative publicity for what
he had to say yesterday, but Donald Trump might see
that it is just publicity and that's a good thing.
What he had to say about Kamala Harris and her
race was this, He said, I didn't know she was
black until a number of years ago when she happened
to turn black, and now she wants to be known
as black, So I don't know is she Indian or
is she black. Donald Trump, of course, has been blasted

(23:26):
for this. The White House calls it repulsive and a
black slur. I saw one congressman from the Republicans last
night trying to put cold water on this, saying that
Donald Trump was being sarcastic. I'm not sure many people
see it that way.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, a good week, you make ketchup next week. Appreciate
it very much. Mitch mcckenn out of the States. Nick
Bryant wrote very well about it in the Australian papers yesterday,
and I note also the group themselves the Association of
Black Journalists. They're all angsty about it. And a woman
called Karen Attia, who's a Washington Post columnist co chair
of this year's conference, she's quit in Trump's adoration of authoritarianism,

(24:02):
coupled with the vile campaign he's waged for years on
the Fourth of State, his appearance at any media focused
conference would be certain to generate a heightened level of controversy.
So she's out of there. So I don't know why
they invited him in the first place. And I'm not
sure what's wrong with inviting somebody you know you won't
agree with. That's the problem with so many journalists, and
that they only want to hear from people they agree with. Anyway.
Another person, Simon Sanders, who's a former Kamala Harris spokesperson.

(24:26):
She works for MSNBC these days. She said, some of
the best journalists in the country are members of the NABJ,
so why wouldn't they interview Trump, which is not a
bad point. Speaking of prisoners, by the way, the guy
Mohammad and a couple of others who were behind the
September eleven, two thousand and one attack, they've agreed to
plead guilty. This is a military commissions process. Terms aren't
being released. This is out of the Pentagon. In the

(24:47):
last twenty four hours they're expected to plead guilty, and
by pleading guilty they'll avoid a death penalty. So a
lot's been going on in the last twenty four hours.
Ten away from seven, the make Hosking breakfast with al
Vida retirement give me news togs had been. Venezuela is
still not settled, though, though I note yesterday that Maduro
is still on the streets. By the way, the CNE,
which is the National Electoral Council, claim Maduro one at

(25:10):
fifty one percent. They've had a couple of days worth
of protests. The opposition is still maintaining this. Gonzalez won
by a wide margin. They still claim some seventy percent.
Pressure continues to go on internationally. Costa Rica's got invold.
I mean, there's a whole lot of diplomatic stuff going on,
and people are being brought home and fired and moved
around the place, et cetera. But Maduro has now suggested
the US based Carter Center. This is the most interesting part.

(25:32):
The US based Karta Center was invited by the Venezuelan
officials to monitor it, and they've said they cannot verify
or collaborate or corroborate the results of the election as
declared by the CNE. So Maduro has come out and
said he will release the numbers. The reason he hasn't
released the numbers now is that the electoral system has
been hacked. So once he sorted out the hack, we'll

(25:57):
see what we can do. Mike, there's a lot of
text like this this morning, and do't accept it. Every
time we talk about the tourism the same arguments put forward.
Traveled to Southeast Asia recently met many tourists from the UK,
US and Canada. Many commented that they'd love to visit
New Zealand, but local costs are too expensive. I reject that. Yes,
we're expensive, but not when you're coming from international places.

(26:17):
You take forty eight was about forty five at the moment.
Forty five pence you get a New Zealand dollar. You
take fifty something US sense you get a New Zealand dollar.
Traveling from there to here is dirt cheap. And that
doesn't explain why Europe is overloaded at the moment with tourists.
Because Europe is hideously expensive. Go look at a hotel,

(26:41):
go look at a meal, go look at an airfare,
and it is not stopping them. So this idea that
we're too expensive, there's something more to it than that,
because the facts just don't back it up. By the way, quickly, Ricaro,
if you're into cars, you'll know the name the seats
though far for bankruptcy and you think, why the earth
does that happen? No one seems to know why they're

(27:01):
formed in ninety oh six. The employees had no idea.
It's owned by an equity company, and that's always a
bit of a problem. That will potentially a bit of
a problem anyway that were brought in twenty twenty by
a private equity company might have something to do with that.
They also make child safety seats, that's okay, aircraft seats,
that's okay. But those flash seats and the sports cars
that anyone who loves cars knows all about, that's they're
in bankruptcy. So what happens to the flash seats?

Speaker 11 (27:22):
I got no idea.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
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business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Now do we have enough streaming services? I think you
probably agree that we have enough to well, we don't
have enough streaming services. Can I introduce to you this
morning then you sports joint streaming venture. It has been
coming for a while. This is ESPN owned by Disney,
Warner Brothers and Fox third or third or third. They're
putting it together. Seventy two dollars a month, and you think, gee,
that's a lot. Sport Sky forty two dollars a month,

(27:55):
but the seventy two is pretty standard in America for
the streamers because they bring games direct to the consumer
rather than paying for a package of channels. Right, so
you buy the game, the games come, so you buy
a pass to all the games. They're looking to launch
in spring, in about a month's time or thereabouts, because
they want to kick off before the NFL season begins
fifth of September. Fox holds the rights to NFL Sunday games,

(28:16):
and Sunday's their big day, and ESPN's got the Monday
Night football and that's one of the biggest nights of
the week. Speaking of streaming, bundling is the way to
go because we've also got Disney and Warner brothers also
planning to bundle Max Disney Plus and Hulu, and you'll
get that for twenty eight to fifty a month, plus ads,
or if you don't want the ads, you get fifty bucks.
You follow all of that too many, and I do

(28:40):
go back to each one. I was doing esther watch
the final episode of Receivers, which I've got to be
honest and say that Receivers was not as good as
the quarterback. So if you're into the American football, quarterback
was brilliant, the receivers was. It was okay anyway. I
flicked through a couple of I always do it just
as an exercise. I flick through the other services you've got,
and you go, right, what's on these things that I'm

(29:01):
paying for? And yesterday I came up with zero, absolutely nothing.
But that might be more about me than it is
about them. Brook Francis Gold Medal. Quite a good day
at the office, as they say, thank god the Rowers
came to the party for goodness say, because up until
now it's been a bit lean and mean, hasn't it.
So we'll talk about rowing. We'll talk about people who
turn up to the office and to water blast a

(29:21):
pylon and then take all the nuts and take them
out and then go is that falling it is? Oh,
it is falling over. So anyway, we had the report
out on that yesterday, as if we needed a report.
It's all to come after the news, which.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Is next the breakfast show.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
You can trust the mic Hosking Breakfast with the range
rover villa designed to intrigue and use togsad.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
B seven past seven. So the highlight of a very
good night for rowing was the gold, of course, and
the women's doubles Men's forgot silver, women's forgot bronze. Brook
Francis is with us from Paris. Morning, good morning, this
is particularly good morning. It is a particularly good morning.
Are you wearing your medal?

Speaker 19 (30:01):
I am.

Speaker 20 (30:02):
I think I've only taken off once a shower.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
As far as far as medals go. Is it a
good looking one?

Speaker 20 (30:09):
Yeah, this one's particularly good looking. It's got a wee
piece of the Eiffel Tower in the middle. And yeah,
the French do a pretty good job of everything.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'd say fantastic. Now take us through the race. Did
you need to make it that exciting?

Speaker 20 (30:24):
Yeah, we've got some fierce competitors and the women's double.
This whole olymp Haad, the Romanians have actually been, you know,
leading the charge and there's been some big, big battles
going on in the woman's double field. Our coach had
said to us before we got on the water that
were where we're gonna need to be brave today, and
it's what we tried to do through every five hundred

(30:45):
and to we hear it was going to be tight
to the wine. And as we came into the finish,
I made a call and the call was Joe, which
meant we needed to wind like Joe and Nathan from
the from the London Olympics, and we managed to come
out on the right side of the finishes.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Because I was going to ask, you are how cognizant
of what's happening in the race when you're that pressured.

Speaker 20 (31:09):
Yeah, you definitely see a lot out of your presshial vision.
But then it comes back to doing what you can
in your bow. And I knew Lucy was laying down
the watts and that's what I needed to do behind
her to keep our boat accelerating.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Did you have anything left at the end, No, that
was that was us spent, And.

Speaker 20 (31:28):
I think that's a credit to the Romanians that we're
up against our crew that yeah, leave no phone unturned.
In the day before, they had come from fourth place
to win in the last two hundred and fifty meters
of their race, so we knew they've got e three
years and we were just trying to make sure our
bow got out in front and that we covered that.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
It's brilliant. You're not unfamiliar of course with World championships,
with the medal in Tokyo. Where does this today sit
for you?

Speaker 20 (31:58):
It's extremely special. It again, it still probably hasn't quite
sunk and I think it's been a rollercoaster over two years,
coming back from Tokyo, having a year off and then
deciding to start a family and continue my athletic career.
There's been so many highs and lows that you know,
no one would ever see. But that's been something that

(32:19):
I've been able to share with Lucy this whole time,
and we've had that belief in ourself that this is
something that we can do, and we yeah want other
mothers to know that hopefully they can pursue amazing careers
alongside being great mothers.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, I'm looking at funnily enough I'm looking at a
photo of you and your daughter and your husband. Does
your daughter get it?

Speaker 19 (32:41):
No?

Speaker 20 (32:42):
But she's been excited to hold my middle and she
knows it's a circle and she knows it's gold. And
she did a great job of cheering in the crowd today.
I got to watch her on the middle ceremonies, lifting
both her arms up and giving us a huge, big chair.
But I think she was just probably happy to see
mom because it's been ten days away from from seeing her.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah exactly. Speaking of family, the Spoor family will be
fairly happy. Is Lucy beside herself?

Speaker 21 (33:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (33:10):
And Lucy's words and Phoebe's words their their Mum's been.
She's turned into a puddle with all the tears. Basically,
it's been a phenomenal a day for the sports family.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah exactly, And and and a phenomenal day for Rowing
New Zealand. What does it say about our ability to
keep producing champions?

Speaker 17 (33:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (33:31):
I think we're, you know, hopefully creating a really good legacy.
Our day started off with Tom and Emma qualifying in
the semi finals to get through the A finals. And
we're all a family and we know that if are
going well we're all going well, and I think that's
something that gave our means a woman's forced a lot
of confidence. And hopefully with the Lightweight double tomorrow and

(33:53):
the men's woman's singles on Saturday, they're going to feel
feel a lot of confidence and through their races.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
And joy the night, Brook. I appreciate you time very much.
Book Francis out of Paris this morning, eleven past seven,
asking back home. Another depressing reminder that it doesn't matter
how many reports you right, not a lot seems to change.
We've got another report into at risk children who turns
out are no safer than they were three years ago.
This all came out of the Malachi Acubit case, a
five year old who died. If you don't remember, back
in twenty twenty one, the Chief Children's Commissioner, doctor Claier

(34:22):
Kimota is, well, there's clear good morning to you.

Speaker 22 (34:25):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Do you find it depressing?

Speaker 22 (34:29):
Look?

Speaker 7 (34:29):
I find this findings of this report deeply, deeply concerning
because edit part, it's about how we are treating children
in our country, in the children who are the most
at need in our community.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Are we a bit useless at this?

Speaker 11 (34:46):
Look?

Speaker 7 (34:46):
I think we have to get better. In this report
shows that we're not moving quickly enough to act the
systems that need to draw those safety nets tighter and
stronger to keep children safe. They simply aren't prioritizing the
safety of children as much as they need to.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
They would tell you they are. I mean, the same
thing happens every time report comes out. Will do better,
they were working harder, report comes out and run around
we go.

Speaker 16 (35:17):
Well.

Speaker 7 (35:17):
Following this report, the children's agencies have acknowledged that there's
a lot more to do. And clearly this report from
the Independent Monitor shows that still children are not as
visible as they need to be by the systems that
are there to keep them safe. And you know, in
light of the Royal Commission of Inquiry, in light of

(35:40):
the fact that we still have one child dying every
five weeks on average from homicide, this has to delvanize
us to real action now because we can't afford to
keep leaving children in situations where they are potentially going
to be harmed. We have to act just to do
that with agency.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Well said, you have a good weekend, dodtr Clareuckman, who's
the Chief Children's Commissioner. The Pylon didn't get enough coverage
yesterday when the report came out, because this, to my mind,
encapsulates pretty much everything that's wrong with New Zealand. So
more in a moment thirteen past the mistist actually speaking
of the Olympics, so I get to gonna havel later

(36:23):
on the program, this China dope testing thing, not to
mention the boxing has got to have some answers, So
we'll see what has read on matters is and the
Tertiary Minister Penny Simmons, she's announced how we're going to
unravel this shambles that is this centralized polytech behemoth that
Chris Hopkins thoughts was a good idea. Anyway, I think
there's a seed of an idea there. But we'll get
the detail from her shortly meantime at sixteen past seven.

(36:46):
I mean, it's hard to believe that the Transpower Pilon
story isn't really I mean, the report tells us what
we already knew. Two workers no training under the bolts
tower falls over power goes out. Not only weren't they trained,
I suppose that's the new part of the story. They
weren't they trained. They didn't get proper supervision either. So
now we presumably talk about compensation or do we. Northland's
MP Grant mccallums, well us Grant, very good morning to you.

Speaker 23 (37:09):
Yeah, good morning Mike. Every time you hear it, you
just wonder, don't you just wonder how this possibly happened
and highlights why we actually do need to get some
recompense for the people of Northland, that's.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
For sure exactly. But the report says the compensation part
of the question was not in their purview. Who owns
and runs with this now.

Speaker 23 (37:27):
Well that's up to the north of people like my
south lairs of Northland and it gets stuck in to
sit down on Transpound. So actually you owe the people
of Northland. There's a lot of anger out there. You've
heard it from the business community this morning. They are
really frustrated. They feel that they had their owned something.
And actually the wider community, which has been my pitch,

(37:47):
is for the wider community to get to get some
decent a decent check from the from Transpower, which we
can use the benefit all of Norfold because everybody was affected.
The power went out to the whole province.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
When you sit down with they'll go, oh, look at
some mex and go see them. Is that fair or not?

Speaker 23 (38:04):
I don't know. I'm not in that conversation, but actually
know they I have sat down with them and that
that wasn't that didn't come into it. They understand the
relationship directly with Northern This is through Transpower, not through
mex and that their issue good right, so very much
had that conversation directly with them. It's about Transpower putting

(38:24):
things right for Northland by taking this seriously and recognizing
a level of anger out there.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
So when you had that conversation with Transpower, was there
a pen involved quivering over a checkbook or were not
at that point?

Speaker 23 (38:36):
Not at that point yet, but we it would be
fair to say the sort of general number they threw
around was significantly lower than I was thinking it was relevant.
I said, a fact of ken of what you're talking
about might be more relevant.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
So we're talking tens of millions, Well, no.

Speaker 23 (38:50):
Not that high, but seven figures talking at seven three?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Okay, so it's a million plus And are they of
a mind that that's what it will come to? Or
is the re fight here?

Speaker 23 (39:00):
I think there might be a little bit of a
fighter initially, but I would like to think that particularly
after this support which, by the way, why do you
need seventy three pages and one hundred and twenty pages
actually tell us that someone took too many bolts off.
I mean, you know who that would be a great
job to get it, can get it, you know, but

(39:21):
you know why you need that beyond me. But no,
they they need to come with some serious coin and
take it serious. And they come up to North and
you come to the North in front of the people
of North and so I actually feel and understand the
level of anger and eat stuff here.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Couldn't agree more. Go well, grunt, appreciate it very much.
Grant mckellum. What I mean before the break about everything
that's wrong with this country is you can't make this up.
It is so bad that you literally can't make it up.
We had the woman who's now gone whose name I
can't remember, who was the head of transpower on the
program on the day and you looked at the pictures
and you saw there no bolts in the holes, and
you said, do they take the bolts out? And then

(39:55):
you got all the ropie with me for you know,
jumping the gun seventy three pages, as Grant says later,
and some dumb report, costing thousands of dollars stating the
bloody obvious. Two idiots who go haven't got a brain
cell to rub together. Let me ask you this question.
Even if you had never been trained to look after
a pylon before, which most of us happened, when they
said go clean, it would the first thing you do

(40:16):
is undo all the bolts. Is that the first thing? Honestly,
even with no training and no supervision whatsoever, all they
do is give you a still water blaster and say
go clean. That would the first thing you do be
to take all the bolts out. No, So that's what's
wrong with New Zealand. One they don't care. Two they
don't train, three they don't supervise. Four they're incompetent. And

(40:39):
then they even want to apologize and write a proper check. Seven.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
One my cost you breakfast.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Right, there's this pole in the New Zealand here all
the other day. Right, turns out whupos really want companies
to step up and keep stuff out of landfills, and
the company that's onto it already as xpol expol the
warmest feet in the world people. Right, they've been manufacturing
insulation for our homes for nearly fifty years. They've got
this thing called the Expole Earth Initiative. It's very impressive.
All seven of their factories here in the country have

(41:07):
recycling facilities to recycle not only their offcuts but waste
from building sites and households. And they're not stopping there.
They're recycling over five hundred tons of polystyrene every year.
They've set set up recycling bins through building merchants across
the country taking back household waste like packaging from household goods.
We're talking one thousand cubes per month. It's like ten

(41:27):
truck and trailer loads per month. Now they turn it
all into new stuff too. Seventy five percent of their
products have recycle content in them. So if you're building
or renovating and you want to be a bit kinder
to the planet Xpole dot co dot z, great idea
ra xpole e xpol Xpole dot co dot z your
home and the environment, Well thank you, Husky. Time out
to mark the week seven twenty four little piece of

(41:48):
using current Eventsits as clear and refreshing as a glass
of sin water. Are the Olympics five child for New Zealand?
I mean, is it just me, I'm yet to really
feel it. I mean, the rubbing helped overnight could be
the time zone I guess, could be the medal count.
I'm hoping Week two provides a little bit more success,
a little bit more drama. Are the Greens two months
of procrastination only culminated more procrastination with yet another letter.

(42:11):
Imagine if they had to actually make a decision. Are
the Worries eight the wive if they won? They're still
on the hunt, but selling out this week as we
found out your entire season and being the first and
only NROL club ever to do so tells you about support,
fandom and load. Yes, yes, yes, we've got the US.
Tonight Andrew cast of five yep read the room got
the memo tax cut seven because it's important to remember.

(42:35):
We are not a bank. We are not to be bled.
We are not a fiscal tap for incompetent politicians to
hose away hard earned coin In New Zealand six for
being at least honest about climate targets. Pumpkins seven now
the player in the summer of growth, prices have tanked
on the pumpkins. Good for the punter, of course, not
for the graw up, but good for the punter. And
who doesn't love Rose Pumpkin marii Wardlaw's eight s I

(42:58):
mean Brown. The minister who drove that through into law
this week got it and won a good day for
democracy speaking which the abolition of the health system's ethnic
equity adjuster seven. Health is about health, not race toy
world seven. Yeah, back in wrote a part of the
REDU love it Bremworth seven two million to spro wooll

(43:19):
is a wonderful story not told widely and passionately enough,
And we'll have more on that in the next half
our Joe Biden's three. This is a very good afternoon
writing op eds about Supreme Court reform, knowing nothing will
come of it. It's a bit of a sad and
Karmala Harris seven.

Speaker 11 (43:33):
I didn't know she was black.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Since the assent see doesn't seem to have done a
thing wrong. Really, if you think about it, money's flying
in the polls and moving. August six, I mean August. Yes,
it's the second of August. Explain to me where the
years gone? That's the week copies on the website and
not one jot of this has any amount of AI
anywhere near at hashtag home of the good old did
it my self opinion piece? Apparently it's not as common
as it once was, like the pile on the excuse

(43:57):
that he wasn't trying to simply not good enough?

Speaker 17 (43:59):
No, is it not?

Speaker 2 (44:02):
New Zealand has spent squillions on health and safety? This
is a very good point and a plethora of our
values documents. Apparently it's all the words, and so we say,
ohdre too bad. Never mind, I haven't thought about the
health and safety. You're one hundred percent right. How much
of an industry is health and safety? How many hundreds
of millions of dollars have spent every year on health
and safety and rules and hivers and cones and all
the other crap that clearly amounts to zero when it

(44:25):
comes to a couple of people you've hired. Have you
got any experience?

Speaker 22 (44:27):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Have we got any supervision?

Speaker 21 (44:29):
No?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
But oh well no, go water blast the pylon. See
how it goes for you now. Polytechs Chris Heipkins thought
it would be a brilliant idea if they talk all
a really successful polytechs and they dubtailed them into all
the really useless polytechs and just had one big Polytech
and you've seen how that's working. So we've got to
fix that. And they sort of are they've got an idea. Well,
I'll let Penny Simmons, the minister, explain what the idea

(44:52):
is in just a couple of moments.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
They use bold opinions.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
The mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real
estate differently since nineteen seventy three news togsad be.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Like you asked earlier about tourism. Just returned from Hawaii,
which I thought was a bit quiet, which is interesting.
I suppose do you go to Hawaii in the middle
of summer, You really go and winter, don't you. The
taxi drivers said on the way to the Australia New Zealand,
Japanese are not coming through going up to Alaska. It's
all about the cruise ships. Apparently you said they get
busy in September when the cruise ships arrive. Japanese not
there because of their dollar they get the Americans. Mike,

(45:29):
Iceland twelve beers, two plates of chips, three hundred and
seventy dollars. You don't talk to me about Iceland. How
some was in Iceland last year and we went broken
about a day and a half. And this is what
I'm trying to say. There's a couple of urban myths
floating around about New Zealand. One is we're expensive. We're not,
especially given the value of our dollar, which is tanked.
And to the other one, tourists are not coming Mike
to New Zealand because of gangs and all the crime.
That's another urban myth as well. The fact that we've

(45:52):
got trouble downtown Auckland, for example, is not preventing tourists
coming to New Zealand. It's like saying, well, I'm not
going to Italy because of all the beggars and the pickpockets.
It's like saying I'm not going to Britain at the
moment because all the knife attacks and the riots on
Leeds or Southport or London. So I say I'm not dear,
wouldn't dere go to Texas? Might get shot? I mean,
that's all theory. It's simply not. You'd never go to
New York if you're worried about crime. You'd never go

(46:13):
to New York and get the world's flooded with tourists.
So it's something more than that. Twenty two to eight Friday,
Tim and Cady after eight o'clock for you. Meantime, this
business of education more change coming long away to consultation
for polytex is now open. In simple terms, we want
to take the struggle well, the struggling texts, group them together,

(46:34):
let the successful one stand alone. Penny Simmons is the
tertiary minister in chargeable with this, and she's with us
very good morning, he's good morning mate. This rejig you're
looking at is what should have been done in the
first place, and giving it. You're from South London, you
were running a moderately successful operation. You would have known that,
wouldn't you.

Speaker 24 (46:50):
Yes, and look this should have happened four years ago.
And a lot of what we're looking at doing now
is advice that the previous minister was given not to
go hold sail into a big change, but to address
the problem areas and let the other ones get on
with running their polytechnics.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Now is when you put these in correct me if
I'm wrong in saying this, your group of strugglers together,
let the successful ones get on with it. Are there
too many people in the sector? In other words, and
grouping strugglers together. Are you asking for trouble?

Speaker 24 (47:20):
Look, we can't group them together until we get the
costs out. So that's the exercise we're going through.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Now.

Speaker 24 (47:25):
There's significant cost that has to come out. There's identified
one hundred and fifty million dollars worth of building and
land that isn't being used that needs to be sold.
There is a poor operating practice that needs to be sorted.
So we've got to get the costs out first or
else we'll just be pouring water into a sieve.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
So the costs are the waste and the fat, so
you're confident it's not to the bone and therefore it's
not worth the exercise.

Speaker 24 (47:54):
Look, some of it is to the bone, and those
very small places the far North Plymouth, west coast of
the South Island, and that's why we need them definitely
in a federation so they can get access to the
one hundred and sixty programs that the Open Polytechnic has
got online, so they can then offer a blended delivery

(48:14):
of on campus and online, so that gives them the
support to still be able to run courses. But in
some of the bigger urban areas where there are big
deficits being run, we have to get costs out of there.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Okay, the criticism I have some sympathy for, despite the
fact that what you're doing makes sense. Is this too
much change on top of change?

Speaker 24 (48:36):
Well, we status quo isn't an option. They're going to
run out of money. They are running big deficits and
they will run out of money churning through reserves. We
haven't got an option to just leave them.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
How many courses are there, how many politics are there
that when you look at it from the outside and
you go, you know what, there's too much frippery going
on and we're just wasting time and money here.

Speaker 17 (48:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (48:58):
Look, I think industry involvement is key to this, and
community involvement's key to it. So yes, there will be
some of that. But remember you use polytechnics as a
pathway to employment. It's not education for education sake. It's
the ear to get people into employment. So that's why
we've got to get industry and communities involved with in Again, I.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Watch you in question time. You're feeling the heat. Labor
have got you in their sites along with Costello, along
with chore. Are you feeling the heat?

Speaker 24 (49:29):
Well, no, I'm not, because I know that we've got
to do this and we've got to get it right.
So yeah, they're going to put me under pressure, but
that's what I'm there for, all right.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Go well, Penny Simmons, who's the Terchary and Education and
Skills Minister. Nineteen minutes away from eight, Pasky. I just
right back from Europe, including Luxembourg, Germany and France. And
you're so right, so so so many people. Airport's heaving expensive,
as you said, only cheap items cigarettes, alcohol and petrol.
Very Hoss as well, myke. Equity at asset companies buy
a company, they hatch. The goes back to Riccaro that

(50:02):
it's telling about equity asset companies buy a company, they hatchmatch,
divide it up and ruin it. Lots of good staff
and knowledge. Mike, I'm watching the series on Apple that's
called Slow Horses. Absolutely brilliant, great acting. I must watch.
I'll give it a guy over the weekend.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
I recommended that one to you weeks ago. Did you
have you just been ignoring my recommendations?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Wouldn't be a first morning, Mike. Impressive looking medals being
given to the athletes at the Games containing parts of
the Eiffel Tower I hope they're not taking any of
the bolts out, Mike, Mike, it's winter with an average
qv season. The snow's not great. Tourism is seasonal. Let's
see how the summon going high says, look the downside.
I take your point there, But tourism New Zealand's now
running a program. It's a reiteration of another program. They

(50:43):
tried to tell us when they launched the program again
that it was a new program. It wasn't a program
a new program, it was an old program. But anyway,
it was a trend seasonal program. So other words, what
we do is shift the season. So in other words,
we used to be so successful that everyone would come
in our summer and we just moved them into spring
in an autumn. So that's should be working if it
was working properly, and it isn't. Mike totally agreed. And

(51:04):
you see it's not expensive. Just been away for a
month in the US. There is very that's very expensive,
so is Canada. We get good value here across entertainment,
hospitality and many things. Thank you, Craig. Seventeen to two.
My costing breakfast just actually funny enough. Should told you
this before I was just reading yesterday. There are a
couple of more of these places that will actually pay
you to move there, places like America West Virginia. There's

(51:27):
a program called a Send West Virginia. Get twelve thousand dollars.
You get a free outdoor recreation package, coworking space, got
to live there for a couple of years. You can
go to Rochester, New York. You get up to nine
thousand dollars. Tulsa Tulsa Remote is what they call it.
The ten thousand dollars on rental grants a lump some
after the purchase of a qualifying home. If you want

(51:48):
to to Pecker ten thousand dollars. If you want to
go there, go to Pecker is what they're calling it.
Employee Transfer program Contribute. You've got to contribute for that
one two and a half thousand and fifteen thousand dollars.
But after you've done that, they reimburse you. The Shoals
Alabama Remote Shoals, if you want to live in Alabama,
they'll give you ten thousand dollars to move to that
part of the world. You've got to have a job
that's worth fifty two thousand dollars or more that was

(52:11):
so successful. That program's currently on pause, so there's plenty
of people on will we want to get you there, Mike.
I so enjoy listening to your interviews with government in peace.
They know what they're talking about, well not all of them,
and it shows because they speak. I'll give you a
list one day, I'll give you Mike's top ten. I'll
go one to ten or ten to one, just depending
on you know who's a bit useless. They're not all good.
But I'll tell you who is good. And I've said
it before, Karen Shaw's very good. And that's why I

(52:32):
was so upset this week. Her treatment has been disgusting.
It is embarrassing. And the fact that she was allegedly
because of what the Maori Party, a couple of members
of the Maray Party said to her in Mariy, I mean,
how arrogant do you need to be? She was told,
apparently by Jerry Brownlee to and expect an apology. It
never came, and that's on Brownlee. Now he's going to

(52:55):
make that happen because I know that Julianne Genta I
was watching as usual question Time yesterday. Before question Time,
Julianne got off and read off her phone about how
sorry she was. It was reasonably authentic. I think she
was found in contempt, as indeed she should have been.
She had written to the committee the privileges this is
she had apologized. She said it was unparliamentary, so she

(53:17):
behaved in that sense properly. The committee found there was
no further value in holding an oral hearing, so that
was the end of that. Tell you who wouldn't be
on my top ten list? This grocery commissioner. That was
another labor brain fart. So they invented a grocery commissioner,
thinking a grocery commissioner would do something about the supermarkets
and tell me, just tell me now, I've got a
ten thousand dollar prize right here, right now, first caller through,

(53:37):
tell me what he's done. Nothing, nothing, don't even by
the picking up the phone, because he's done nothing. Yesterday
he said key measures to improve competition isn't working, no cuding.
He started a review of the grocery supply code that
came into forced last September, and there are reports that

(53:57):
supplies are concerned about how they're being treated. So that
was never going to change the grocery agreements that were
sent out to them in September. More than fifty percent
of them are unsigned. Could be, of course, because they've
got better things to do with their life than, you know,
sign a bit of paper from the grocery commissioner. But
be that as it may, there's a long standing in
balance and power, or so he continues to argue. He said,
he was ready to and this is what you've always

(54:18):
got to be weary of. And he said, look, he
seems he's a coster. He's a he's an Andrew costa
likable enough guy, nothing wrong with him. Came from sanitary
and pleasant sort of bloke. But when you look and
talk to him, you think, are you the bloke to
change things? No, you're not. I mean, for all I know,
if you give him a water blaster, he might have
undone some bolts, you know what I mean. You just
don't know.

Speaker 8 (54:38):
So anyway, what you're saying, you prefer somebody like with
a taser exactly God taser the Supermen.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
When somebody, when somebody says something, and this is what
he says. He said, quote he was ready to wave
a big stick. So when somebody says that, you will
go Actually, I better get my act together because that
big stick might be big and it might hurt. I
don't believe a word he says. So I just don't
know what he does for a living every day. Given
literally nothing has changed in the supermarket sector. Since he's right,

(55:06):
he's whittling is stick. It's probably probably looking for a stick.
He's probably whittling a stick. He probably goes, I haven't
got a stick. A whittle one up for me. It's
ten away from eight.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
The mic costing breakfast with the Range rivers.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
And it's even away from it. So let's celebrate Wall.
As we told you yesterday, Bremworth have launched this two
million dollar marketing campaign to remind us that Wall is wonderful.
The chief executive, Greg Smith is with us. Greg, very
good morning to.

Speaker 17 (55:30):
You, Very good morning to you too, Mike, thanks for
having us.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Not at all.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
How big is the battle?

Speaker 17 (55:37):
Uh well, it's it's it's pretty big, but it's not
as big as it's ben I mean, we will. Prices
are on the app there at a six year high,
which is which is great for New Zealand farmers and
that's that's really good news for them, and that's good
news for us. Because we're well only so we want
we want people to see the value of this amazing product.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Exactly how much when it comes to wall, is on
price and how much of it's not front of mind?

Speaker 17 (56:06):
Well, actually it's absolutely front of mind. So consideration for
wool is that a four year high according to our research,
and as far as price goes, it is the number
one consideration for consumers. However, but when you're comparing synthetics
to wool, you're not comparing apples with apples.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
No, indeed you're not. But do people understand that more
importantly when you're looking, say in a house, do you
look at wall versus synthetic or do you look at
wall versus a wood floor versus a chevron floor versus
a tile versus whatever.

Speaker 17 (56:35):
Yeah, Well, what we've seen in our research is that
a hard floors. And when we talk about hard floors,
we talk about timber, laminae vinyl timber floors are their
consideration is at a four year high as well, which
may have something to do with people moving more towards
natural and carpets at a high as well, and that's

(56:57):
wall carpet, but it's not converting in store, and so
we need to make sure that people are aware of
the natural performance benefits of WILL.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Okay, do you work in all dovetail and I'm thinking
about the new builds and all that talk about consents
and building new homes in the country in the last
couple of years. Does that become part of the equation
in the conversation when you talk about what guttering you're
going to use, what roof, what door, what door handle?
Right floors? What are we doing? Is that all part
of that?

Speaker 17 (57:27):
Well, I tell you the part of conversation we want
to be in, and that's the conversation with people are
talking about surfaces. And you know when you think about
people spending an ordinary amount of time considering their bench
top or their bathroom or the door handles that they've got,
and we think the most premium surface in the home
is your flooring and WILL carpet is absolutely the best

(57:50):
choice there. So that's what the conversation we want to
be part of them. That's what the campaign's about.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Is patriotism part of the equation or you know the
fact it's locally made growing all of them?

Speaker 17 (58:00):
I'd like to say yes, but most of the sathetic
products are all important. Yeah, so you know, New Zealand
made is important to kiwis, but what's more important actually
globally is New Zealand wool. It's incredibly well regarded all
over the world as being the best surface.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
And is that the same for strong and fine or not?

Speaker 17 (58:22):
Yep, absolutely so. I mean the Australian marino growers will
say that Australian marinos is as good as New Zealand.
We know that's not quite true. But New Zealand strong
will is absolutely regarded for its color. They sorry, it's color,
it's quality and the low carbon footprint.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
It's the best in the world.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Good stuff. Well, I wish you were with the campaign.
I'm a big fan of the old wool and the
better we do, the better the country goes. Greg appreciated
Greg Smith, Brimworth chief executive Mike did our full bedroom
last year in wool carpet, didn't think of anything else.
Well done you, Mark, congratulations. We have got Tim and Katie.
We also got Murray out of Australia. We'll get you
the update on Rex of course, and we've got problems

(59:01):
for eld and easy Worth, Barnaby Joyce and we'll cover
all of that off and we'll get you to the
games and some of this angsty stuff around this Algerium
Boxer the guy have felt before we leave you at
nine o'clock as well.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Your trusted source for news and fews, the Mic Hosking
Breakfast with a Veda, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News
tog said, be this.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
A reminder of got a weird and wacky, old and
complex world in which we live in. At the moment,
the Dow's christ it's too strong a word, but she's
sunk over five hundred, is sitting at four nine four
at the moment. But they've woken up this morning. An
American recited that what Paral said yesterday about a September
cut is going to be too late to avoid recession.
So all of a sudden they've been talking about how

(59:44):
surprisingly strong the US economy is now, many jobs they're creating,
how the spending's holding up, and how we don't need
to cut yet, and then when they say, well we
can probably get there by September, suddenly it's going to
be a reception. So that's where the doubt is.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
But then the Apple earnings will come out that you know, shortly,
and it might make it or better again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
It's my favorite company, Meta Reality Labs. They reported yesterday
Meta Reality Labs. You know how much they lost in
the second quarter, about nine billion.

Speaker 8 (01:00:13):
Just for the quarter, but worse than they were expecting
or better.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Those goggles. They're going to get there eventually. Now this,
of course you'll be going goodness sake? Is this Empire
of the Sun. Yes, after almost a decade after their
last full length album, the Australian electronic group Empire of
the Sun have put out their fourth studio set. And

(01:00:42):
given it's been almost a decade, you would have thought
they'd come up with more than twelve tracks each and
every one of them are ones almost exactly three minutes
long until Weird, and they saved themselves by doing one
at six minutes and twenty which bumps their total to
forty three minutes. Twelve tracks, forty three minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Interview with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Skinny after a decade. If you asked me, Kate Hawksby's
with us along with Tim Wilson. Good morning to you.
Go on quick question for you, Tim, in all honesty,
In all honesty, and don't feel embarrassed if you would
have if you find fault here. If I asked you
to go clean a pylon and I said, here's your
water blaster, Tim, go whip whip the water blast around

(01:01:28):
that pylon, would you at any point and you have
no experience? Just for the record, you have no experience
cleaning pilons, do you?

Speaker 21 (01:01:35):
I have zero experienced cleaning pilon That is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Correct, right, And I have no one to supervise you
today because we're a bit short starved at the moment.
So if I say to you go grab that, just say, look,
you'll need to remove the bolts to clean them all up.
At what point do you think you would remove all
the bolts so it fell over?

Speaker 21 (01:01:56):
There was there's no point. Why would you continue removing
the bolt thing? You might remove the bolts on the
first one, water blast that, then remove the put the
bolts back on, then the next one. Isn't that what
you would do?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I believe that to be the case. Would you concur
with that, Caddie.

Speaker 24 (01:02:11):
I wouldn't concur.

Speaker 6 (01:02:11):
I actually think the first thing you do is say
if you have no experience, you've never done this before,
and it as a major is to say put your
hand up and say we're going to need some direction
or guidance or help on them, Like there's nothing wrong
with asking for help.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
No exactly, and so obviously I didn't. They didn't have
any one supervising. So does this and Caddy, am I
being unfair? Does this not encapsulate in its own small
way pretty much everything that's wrong with New Zealand at
the moment. We've kind of in a way become pathetic.
I mean, there's just no ex for it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:44):
But I know my brother came through walking deport yesterday
having hands I don't know how long in Europe, but
it felt like forever, and he said basically, coming back
to New Zealand feels like, well now we are FG
unfortunately without the ukuleles and the singing. You know, that's
what we need to maybe brighten ourselves up. But we
we sort of I don't know.

Speaker 21 (01:03:05):
Do not get me, Do not get me started about
Auckland Airport or we should rename it for del Castro International.
That place hates freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Have you where have you been? Are you picking people
up to me?

Speaker 22 (01:03:19):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:03:20):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 21 (01:03:20):
I'd sit down to christ Church during the week, lovely
place by the way, loving a bit of Christ here's
my reason. Here's my reason is Number one, they don't
sell They don't sell chutty at Auckland Airport. You can't
buy chewing gum there because they believe you can't operate
your own chewing gum. You go to christ Church, domestic, correct,

(01:03:42):
you go to christ Church. You can buy chewing gum
because they believe that you can operate your own chewing
gum in christ Church. Oh and by the way, at
Auckland Airport, when you're coming down the escalator after just
bought it, you know, getting off the plane at the
bottom of the escalator, there's a voice saying, please mind
your step as you step off the escalator. If you

(01:04:02):
can't step off an escalator, there's a whole lot more
problems waiting for you outside the airport with cars, roads,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It's outrageous brandom.

Speaker 21 (01:04:12):
Flavor brand and flavor are whatever's going? Yeah, you're not
sure you're not sugar brands. I might do a teeth
whitener if I'm feeling a bit you know, gritty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Do you believe in that?

Speaker 17 (01:04:25):
Do you so?

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Do you honestly? When you purchase your teeth whitening chewing
gum do you honestly believe your teeth will whiten.

Speaker 21 (01:04:33):
Glisson, I'll sparkle like the sun, Michael.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
Of course they will very upsetting for your microbion chewing gum.
You should step clear of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Speaking of which.

Speaker 6 (01:04:44):
Sugar free from God?

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
Is it sugar free?

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Tim sugar and false sweeteners and chemicals.

Speaker 21 (01:04:51):
But also it also but it's on the on the counterbouances.
It invigorates the saliva that which helps clean your teeth,
so it's good for your teeth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
That part is true. And my hygienist has told me
that very story. I used to be into the Hubba
bubba for a while.

Speaker 21 (01:05:06):
Bubbles, no troubles.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
That is so true, mind you. I was twelve or thirteen,
Cadie from from Good Bugs, Fresh Raw and Alive. I
have the note Dear Kate and Mike, and this it
was this time last week, thank you for your public
appreciation of our Kimchi sprinkles. We're having an amazing week
and not much sleep. Why are they not having much sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:05:30):
Caddie, because they're frantically trying to get out all the
Kimchi Sprinkles orders, because the website's sold out and they've
got a big list of people waiting for Kimchi sprinkles,
and they're very kindly gifted us. Some of their crowds
in the interim, didn't they which is which is not?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
It's not a replacement for a sprinkle because crowd is
a separate thing. But delicious nevertheless.

Speaker 21 (01:05:51):
Is a sour kroud. Are we talking sourkraut? They didn't,
they didn't seend a couple of Germans over No, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
Going to do the bridge, that's going to do micro
on a world of good? Is it? I can't read
the writing?

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Maria, Maria Daniel, Marie Daniel.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
But they now called mister and missus Kimch Sprinkle, Kars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Mister and missus Kimch Sprinkle. It gladdens my heart that we,
in some small way have helped out a little mum
and dad business in this country to do a little
bit better. By the way, yeah, I think, I think.
I think it's brilliant too. You're watching the Olympics at all, tim.

Speaker 21 (01:06:28):
We're well, we did a little can I no, no,
can I Can I tell you something? Just on the
QT So we tried to get on sky Open and
we couldn't really do it, and so it went on YouTube.
Well you know, you're supposed to log in and there's
an email adis blah blah blah. So we ended up
on YouTube.

Speaker 17 (01:06:46):
This is what the kids.

Speaker 21 (01:06:47):
So I was like, oh, I'll watch the Olympics. So
we ended up on YouTube and we saw a four
minute thing of the opening, sort of a shortened version,
and then we saw something else and well we just
it was actually the twenty twenty Olympic BMX competition.

Speaker 17 (01:07:01):
So we watched that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
But it was quite exciting. It was quite excited for
the list.

Speaker 21 (01:07:06):
Was quite yeah. And suddenly enough we watched. When we
watched the next event, one of the one of the competitors,
the same guy had grown a bed and put on weight,
but no one noticed that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I love it. Good Olympic experience and unique Tim Wilson
Kate Hawksby more in a Moment fifteen Past the Mike
Hosking Breakfast Talks, seventeen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
The Week in Review with two degrees, Fighting for fair
for Kiwi Business.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Wilson Kate Hawksby with us Katie. Quite a bit of
you won't have tuned into the program this morning, but
quite a bit of support from on the on your
BSA complaint that you lost so egregiously those months ago
before you stormed out of the industry never to return
again over the equity business and the health system. And
now that the equity business and the health system has
been canceled, most people think you probably owed an apology

(01:07:52):
by the BSA.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
Oh is that what's happened? Because I've had all these
weird emails and messages this morning on Instagram and saying
you deserve an apology for the BSA, and I'm like,
what have they held another thing against me?

Speaker 24 (01:08:04):
So that's what it is?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Okay? Cool? Exactly won't I won't hold my breath waiting
for that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
No, indeed not. I've got problems. How old are you again? Tim,
do apologize for keeping on asking that question? That's right?

Speaker 24 (01:08:17):
So what do you know?

Speaker 21 (01:08:17):
I'm not, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I'm younger than you are you by how much?

Speaker 21 (01:08:22):
I'm fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Okay? So, Andrew Keller heer. Another thing you won't have
heard on the program this morning because you won't have
been tuned in, Katie. Is that Andrew kellerher, our finance guy,
is celebrating his sixtieth next month. Guess what he's doing
what cycling twenty seven mountains in France.

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
Well that's not you. That's not your cup of tea
at all.

Speaker 21 (01:08:46):
No, No, that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
See, that's the thing to and that's why I raised it.
It's now I'm in it. I'm in the sixtieth birthday bitch,
because now whatever I I mean, it's that's either idiotic
and you think why would you do that? What a fall?
Or it's impressive, isn't It's one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Or the other.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
And then whatever I come up with, people going, it's
not as good as.

Speaker 21 (01:09:12):
Why don't you just why don't you just pop yourself
into your favorite pair of trackies and T shirt and
have a nice Cama mild tea and watch some of
your favorite Warriors games from the YouTube.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
That's honestly what he wants to do. To him, He's like,
why can the pub with the kids? I'm like, because
we do that all the time.

Speaker 21 (01:09:29):
He's like, that's all I want to do, which the
hang with the Fanbam.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, it's not like. It's not like I'm going to
France to cycle mountains, is it. I mean, you know,
in the same.

Speaker 21 (01:09:43):
Here's the question, are you are you accepting that you're
sixty or are.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
You very much? I'm I'm completely comfortable that I feel.

Speaker 13 (01:09:49):
I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I don't feel so amazing. I want to cycles, but
I thought I was feeling pretty good.

Speaker 21 (01:09:55):
Yeah you got you had that sticky shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yes, I've had the medical things, Tim, but but they've recovered.
Now I've recuperated out there.

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
I don't forget that he started wearing polo shirts as well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Is that is that an age thing?

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Well, what's what's the You've just all of a sudden
gone from wearing design a T shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
No, no, no, I don't even know what level of maturity. Actually,
I'm saving the marinost. No, it looks like the.

Speaker 8 (01:10:27):
Side of a pair of Long Johns, that one.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I'll give you that, Katie.

Speaker 21 (01:10:34):
Why you slipped your man into a pair of long
Johns for a sixty year.

Speaker 6 (01:10:38):
It's kind of it's kind of pretty the lookings going
for the I'm not against it. He's gone off T shirts,
which is a real shame.

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
Actually, the alligator on the front seat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
I haven't. I haven't gone off T shirts. All that
happened was I wanted to support the Marino industry of
this country.

Speaker 11 (01:10:57):
Shirt.

Speaker 21 (01:10:57):
No, No, what happened was you fold yourself downtown when
you missed a here appointment. You has nothing else to do,
and you didn't want it. You didn't actually want to
talk to anyone, so you'll work to them.

Speaker 24 (01:11:08):
All.

Speaker 11 (01:11:09):
Yes, happen, and I order.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
It's just unfortunately the other day the ones I ordered
turned up as well, so I'm now feeling obligated to
wear them.

Speaker 6 (01:11:16):
Oh okay, I wonder what's happened because you do seem
to have an explosion of marino in your wardrobe, and
I'm just wondering if this is actually any little.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I sent them.

Speaker 21 (01:11:25):
I'm sensing a new maturity here. I think this is positive.

Speaker 17 (01:11:27):
I've got a question, Mike quick one Jill.

Speaker 21 (01:11:29):
It's a chill chills related question. Pink frost or leather jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Leather jacket boom, because I don't even know what the
other thing.

Speaker 21 (01:11:36):
Was bed like a sixty year old.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
I love it.

Speaker 21 (01:11:40):
I don't even know what that that rubbish is. I'm
not going to go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
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(01:12:48):
car in France at poor Ricard, that would be an
awesome sixtieth Jeez, what a good idea. Keep that for
later and look them up on the net. Mike, recent
carpet Vier all retailers say wolf Eates. I don't think
retailers say that, but I take your point. Synthetic doesn't,
so we were put off. They need to address that. Yeah,
the sales pitch around it, the story around it is important.

Speaker 11 (01:13:09):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Tim Wilson made a guest appearance at the Alpha course
I was at yesterday. I heard him at a conference
in Wellington as well, and as always an absolute pleasure
to listen to him again. Isn't that good? The rave
reviews are in Murray Olds is standing by a couple
of things to talk about, including Rex. Of course. Meantime,
Trump has reacted to the prisoner swap this morning. So
when are they going to release the details of the
prisoner swap with Russia? How many people do we get

(01:13:30):
versus them? Are we also paying them cash? Our negotiators
are always an embarrassment to us. I got back way,
I got back many hostages and gave the opposing country
nothing and never any cash. Of course he did, and
the White House has confirmed, but no money swap hands
at all. JD Vance reckons they're cleaning house because they're

(01:13:50):
freaking out that Trump's coming back to the White House,
so they need to get things sorted.

Speaker 11 (01:13:54):
Out quick smart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
So so rolls on the presidential campaign of twenty twenty four, Yes,
X and THEB. The big talking points in Australia. Murray
Old's After the News, which is next year at news
Talk said be setting the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
News agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the LA
designed to intrigue and use talks B Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
We've got a crylic carpet in our Wonica house. It's
faded badly along the windows. I'm back to wall much nicer,
fr league. I told you, Mike. I the farm I
run last year spend fifty seven thousand on shearing, got
thirty two k for the wall. Wall's a great product,
but due to its thirty year load, it slow decline.
We're now in our second year of breeding wall less
sheep or wallless sheep. There's also a lot of other
savings that come with no wool like no dipping down.

(01:14:39):
Yet No, I get all. That's that's the supply equation
as opposed to the retail side of the story. But
I take your point, Mike. Have we heard anything from
week one of the book camp?

Speaker 14 (01:14:48):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
And I wouldn't have expected to. I mean, this is
a three month course and they'll get supervision four twelve months,
so nine months outside the camp, so I wouldn't have
expected necessarily. I mean, what do you want them to
say it? And they've done week one. They got up
at six thirty every morning. In fact, they haven't talked
to Mark Mitchell about that, not that he's directly in
charge of it, but getting up at six thirty in
the morning, let me tell you a thing. But the

(01:15:09):
thing about getting up early in the morning, and when
I say early six thirty is not early. I'm talking
about two to two thirty in the morning, is it's
quite it's peaceful, and it's productive. And I honestly believe
that if you got some of these kids up at
the early hours of the morning, maybe three, three thirty
in the morning, and they did a bit of meditational
you know, did a few exercises, or did a little
bit of something in the silence of the morning, they
might view the world slightly different.

Speaker 8 (01:15:30):
Yeah yeah, but after you know, week one, have they
any of them done any more ram raids or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Well, that's true, but then again the ability to do
it would be somewhat limited. So definitely working it could
be so far twenty two minutes away from night.

Speaker 18 (01:15:43):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand Business Murray elder Than Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Morning mate, Good morning, Michael.

Speaker 19 (01:15:52):
You've got staff up at that time cleaning your shoes,
haven't you polished very much?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
They're dedicated to the service of me and it's a
pleasure for them to do it. Let me read you
this headline. Get your reaction. Whatever his achievements as PM,
another rate rise would just about bury Albanesi. So this
is the RB, it's this Wednesday, it's the decision. I
also read this Week of a Generation apparently. Is that
headline true?

Speaker 19 (01:16:18):
Well, a lot, it's And I know what to sound like,
you know, because you know, I'm not a big fan
of the opposition over here. Peter Dutton, I think's unelectable.
But the latest poll this week is absolutely chilling news
for Labor. Labor's on the nose. Albanze has been shell
shocked since the Voice referendum. I think last year failed
so spectacularly and the Redbridge Pole this week shows the

(01:16:40):
Coalition up from thirty seven to forty one percent. Now,
what's doing that Australians on lower incomes, they are struggling
with the cost of living and overall the pole is
very good news for the Coalition fifty one point five
percent to Labour's forty eight and a half. Now that's
an election winning position. That's the first time Labour's trailed
since the last election. And so how's Albanezer responded to

(01:17:02):
your question? Well, he's had a pretty major reshuffle of
his ministry that Duddy had in his cabinet looking after immigration,
he's one of his besties. Well, he's been bumped way
back down the road to skills and training or something
into an immigration comes a big head kicker from New
South Wales, Tony Burke. He's no shrinking violet. He will

(01:17:25):
take the fight up to Peter Dutton and the Opposition
in the House. He's the best performer Labour's got basically,
and that's why Albaneze. He's bumped him up in this reshuffle.
Andrew Giles, that's the fellow's name. It just couldn't think
of him. This week. Cost of living rose by one
percent in the second quarter. That's an annual rate of
three point eight percent. That's above the March quarter. But
the Reserve Bank, as you say, meeting next week, what's

(01:17:48):
it going to do? Is he going to really raise
in restrates again? People are on their knees over here,
and the inflation figure, according to people much smarter than me, Mike,
that they are saying. The economists are saying, there's no
need for the Reserve Bank to lift rates next week.
What the figure basically does is push out further at

(01:18:08):
the start of when the Reserve Bank could start cutting rates.
So an answer to your question and around about way, Yeah, look,
Albane is in trouble, so it's labor and they have
to do something about it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Now. Rex is in trouble too. Yes, from my latest reckoning,
they will survive regionally, which is good, but the intercities
the problem is that, right or not?

Speaker 19 (01:18:28):
Yeah, it is And I mean basically this is the
little airline that was doing really really well in the
bush I mean, you know the size of Australia. I mean,
Quanas is not flying out of these tiny regional centers.
There's no money in it for Quantus, but flying little
small aircraft, the dash Eates and whatnot, the little propeller
driven planes that Rex was using, it has been using

(01:18:48):
for over twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
That was making a The airline was making money.

Speaker 19 (01:18:53):
Two thousand staff all over the country. But what happened
They decided, you know what, I think we can run
Sydney Melbow and one of the busiest routes and most
lucrative roots in the world. Well no, you can't, because
they're up against Quantas, they're up against Virgin, they're up
against Jetstar, and so poor old Rex it came mustling
in against the big boys and just got you know,

(01:19:15):
kick to the curb. Don't forget Bonza Airlines, the beautiful
name Bonza that went belly up only three months ago.
If Rex can survive in the bush, there'll be a
lifeline for those smaller communities that basically have Rex. Goes Mike.
They haven't got any air lenks to the rest of Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
They're also running a pilot academy and they run engine
maintenance and fly and fly out services, all of which
is very important as well able to imagine, Oh for sure,
quick question about Barnaby Joyce and has put the bullets
and you know, the bullet this and the magazine that,
and you know, is that a secondble offense? Has that
been a big story or not?

Speaker 11 (01:19:47):
Really it's really died, you know.

Speaker 19 (01:19:49):
I mean the government did try to make something of it,
but people who have shrugged their shoulders. That's just Barnaby.
I mean, look, he is the most colorful politician we've
got over here. I mean, you got Pauline Hansen, but
she's just a nasty old witch on the sidelines these days,
according to many people. I think she's I still think
she's got color and movement and she's pretty appealing to

(01:20:13):
a lot of people. Partaby Joys is a different thing
in Tyler. Here he is lying on the pavement and
camera this year, drunk as a lord, gabbling away into
his phone with a zar M Williams up on the
top of a flower box. I mean, most people would
be dead if in politics, if that happened to them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Not Vardaby.

Speaker 19 (01:20:28):
He keeps sailing on. And he was up there at
a wind farm protest. We don't want wind farms up
here in northern New South Wales. And as you say,
he told the crowd, when you go to the ballot box,
load those ballots up, put him in the magazine and
bang goodbye bow and bang goodbye elbow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Well that's a.

Speaker 19 (01:20:48):
Dreadful thing to say, particularly in the context of Donald
Trump having, as hear, blown off, but no one seems
to care.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Yeah, okay, I got to go to the Olympics. Are
you following the Olympus by the way and enjoying them?

Speaker 19 (01:20:58):
Yeah, very much, very much, very much. Indeed, I'm delighted
those younger Kiwi girls got up. Delight of the Kiwi
women won the rugby. Fantastic. And I still don't quite
know what happened with the with the the Kiwi fellow
in the triathlon. I mean he busters boiler and there
they are at the end. I mean it's lovely, isn't it.
Sport is a great thing. They got their arms around
each other saying well done mate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Yeah, they were made. He was on the Pregram yesterday
he argued he'd run out, he had nothing left to
give the bloke who beat him. You know, they've been
tossling away together for years and so it was kind
of nice at the end. But he felt he was
at peace with it. It wasn't like he blew it
put it that way.

Speaker 11 (01:21:33):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 19 (01:21:34):
And my memory I think of all time, well one
of them. I had to Peter Snell in my car
one time over here he and his wife. I took
him out of the airport.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Did you did you know it was Peter Snell? I
mean you used to pick up a lot of people
and just take them to the airport. Did you know that?

Speaker 19 (01:21:48):
I was at an Olympic function? And I had to
be because I remember seeing Peter Snell as a ten
year old when in Rome. I love it on a
black and white telly in Papanui and christ Church.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
There you go, pap When does snow win sixty sixty
sixty four?

Speaker 19 (01:22:04):
He got the double? Didn't He won in nineteen sixty
in Rome, then he won in Tokyo in sixty four,
and he got the double in Tokyo in sixty four.
And John Davies I think finished third the bronze medal
of the fifteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Unfortunately wasn't born at the time. Murray can't can't share
that for Oh well, mate, nice to see it. Murray
Olds it is eight forty five thesis for it as
twelve minutes away from mine. I just thought we needed
to get to Paris for a couple of quick things
and catch up with Guy Havel Guy evening morning. Whatever,
how are you.

Speaker 22 (01:22:35):
Evening morning? Yeah, very good, thank you. And then over
now after it's just started absolutely bucketing down. But yes,
very good, very good, loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
It's funny I was watching I can't remember what I
was watching earlier on this morning, but it was some
sort of race that could have wouldn't have been the marathon,
but anyway, they're running through the streets and it looked wet. Again.

Speaker 22 (01:22:52):
How much rain have you had the twenty kilometer walk
It would have beene. That was it, that's no doubt.
Looked like they were running. We haven't had a lot
here in Paris, but we are getting a lot right now. Well, actually,
I lie. We had about a two day period around
the opening ceremony where it did bucket down, and now
it's just started to rain promptly again, I'd say for
the first time since then. Other than that, it's been

(01:23:15):
pretty nice and in the last few days. It's been
very very hot, as you no doubtsaw during that triathh
on yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Okay, a couple of quick ones for you. The Chinese
doping thing, the Chinese testing thing, plus this Algerian boxer.
How big a deal is this?

Speaker 22 (01:23:31):
Well, I've got to be honest, if you, Mike. Until
your producer texts me a little bit earlier on in
the day about the Algeria boxer thing, I didn't even know.
That's how kind of in the zone we are with
what we're doing around New Zealand. I haven't seen it yet.
In saying that that's a big story, I just think
this is the sort of thing that they need to

(01:23:51):
figure out very quickly, because it's obviously something that's happening
in society a lot more in terms of people changing
their genders and that sort of thing. But I don't
think it's a in those sorts of sports like boxing,
particularly where it is so physical and that sort of
thing that is something where you can't take risks in
terms of the gender side of things. So I think

(01:24:13):
this will be a very very big story over the
next twenty four hours. The fact that the Italian just
walked off after forty six seconds of about that's not
a great look for the IOC particular.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Yeah, while I've got your Djopovic the other day and
has complained about the test, how many sports there, in
your view, are not of what you would call Olympic
standard or have participants in there where you think, you
know what this is bollocks, whereas there are others, you know,
the Simone Biles the greatest thing you'll ever see, versus
people who can barely hit a ball or run.

Speaker 22 (01:24:42):
Yeah, too right, I mean things like athletics, swimming, triathlon, gymnastics,
as you mentioned, those sorts of sports. They are absolutely
Olympic sports. But then you look at sports like rugby
sevens and football and tennis. You know, like these men
and women don't play tennis to win Olympic you know,
they played tennis to win Grand Slams. And it's the
same with the golf. They don't play golf to win

(01:25:04):
Olympic medals. They play golf to win major championships. They
don't play football to win Olympic medals. They play football
to win the World Cup. And in the football as well,
there are under twenty it's mainly an under twenty three
competition bar a couple of players who are over the age,
So that to me seems a bit ridiculous as well.
I think there are a few sports they could get
rid of and saying that they're adding sports like break

(01:25:25):
dancing or breaking as it's called in these games. So
which would you rather? Would you rather those sports that
I mentioned or would you rather things like breaking?

Speaker 17 (01:25:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Fair enough? All right, go well mate, we'll catch up Monday.
Appreciate it very much. Guyhervelt in the was about ten
to eleven at night, not that he was going home
or anything. Sammy was worried he might be in bed
tonight that he's actually he's out on that he was
out on the town. But a ras with old guy
on a on a Thursday night, it's nine to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
I think I've got to mention the moment ago about
Meta's reality Labs unit was yes, they lost about nine
billion dollars in the second quarter, but since late twenty twenty,
because I remember last time they reported, I said, how
many billions do you reckon? They're prepared to lose before
somebody wakes up to the fact that this is probably
going nowhere fast. So far they've wrecked up losses of
fifty billion so in New Zealand dollars, about ninety billion

(01:26:16):
New Zealand dollars pretty much about the size of the
New Zealand comedy. Just at some point it's all going
to come right, apparently five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Right, So movie out of Australia for you, this could
be of some interest. It's a it's a comedy horror.
It's about Rippy.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Rippy is a giant zombie kangaroo.

Speaker 13 (01:26:41):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Evil?

Speaker 11 (01:26:46):
A beast?

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
It will change you in your suit?

Speaker 17 (01:26:55):
Have you ever seen anything like this? Whatever did?

Speaker 9 (01:26:59):
This?

Speaker 19 (01:26:59):
Is bloody strong.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Tom apart like nothing.

Speaker 11 (01:27:05):
It looks like a bike wound.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Maybe it's a crocker hacka dingos.

Speaker 17 (01:27:12):
What is that.

Speaker 13 (01:27:14):
Assist?

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
It's a massive route.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Foot top.

Speaker 8 (01:27:30):
Come on, you've got to make you're a little bit intrigued.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Hm hmm. It's called the Red Now in it is
Angie Milliken and Michael Bean bean Bine behind Bain Bain.
Angie was a terminator and Michael was in Aliens director says,
if you're a fan of the film Piranhas and Zombie

(01:27:53):
Beavers or Zombieavers, just Zombieveras, not zombie Beavers.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
Zomb Beaver, you're obviously an aficionado.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
If you're a fan of either of those two aforementioned movies,
then you're just gonna love the Red. It's out in theaters.
I'm surprised they're spending the money putting it into a theater,
but nevertheless, there you got. There's October thirty one. We're
gonna hardly wait. Just confirming in my mind that eels
are useless and that's sixteenth on the table, so given away.

Speaker 8 (01:28:27):
That's a bit nervous thing, isn't it could don't We
only beat teams that we were ahead of us on
the table?

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Could be tight? No last week, No last week. Put
that right. We were wests last week who were even
more useless than the eels. We put them to the sword.
Sort up. Anyway, it's good news tonight with the warriors.
You have a fabulous weekend. Six o'clock Monday. Look forward
to your company as all these happy days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
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