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January 19, 2025 90 mins

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday the 20th of December, the terrible economic news continues to get worse as our GDP dropped badly and we are officially back in recession. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Ryan Bridge on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Alvita, Retirement, Communities,
Life Your Way, News Talks.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
He'd be on fo Good morning, it is seven. After six,
Y're on news talks. They'd be on Ryan Bridge and
for Mike this week. Great to have your company coming
up from the show. Cabinet reshuffle quite a big one.
Simeon Brown. Can he save health? He's with us after
seven thirty plus business reaction after seven the Garza ceasefire?

(00:32):
Will it hold? Will fill you in on what happened
last night? We live in Tel Aviv, TikTok and the
commentary box after eight Andrew Savill and Jason Pineer with us.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I went down to Auckland's waterfront to see what all
the fuss was about at the weekend, and boy, it
was absolutely humming, crowded with people watching the sale GP
boats being loaded up, the sailors waving to their fans
just meters away. You could almost touch them. It was
pretty cool. Some was shining, the bars were full. Auckland
was up on its foils at the weekend. A fantastic

(01:06):
feeling for a city that gets so much wrong, think infrastructure,
cycle ways, road cones, housing, et cetera. It was a
wonderful feeling actually now, and not because I'd had any beers.
I hadn't had any bears at this point. Now Russell
Coots is talking about bringing the event back again. They're
in talks apparently for a five year hosting deal. And
it's easy to get carried away, isn't it, especially after

(01:28):
a couple of lagers. It's such a cool event, you think, yeah,
five years, you build a reputation around it, You promote
the city, you know, I get the parents up, I'd
get the in laws up. I get them north for
the weekend, take them down to the wharf to check
it out. Tourism opportunities, hospitality opportunities, et cetera. But when
Russell Coots says they're in talks over a deal with

(01:48):
who and how much will it cost us the America's cup,
remember that we forked out as tax and rate payers
two hundred and fifty million dollars the end result a
net loss of one hundred and fifty million dollars. Sure,
we had COVID, but remember they also told us that
the old mug would boost tourism and our international image.

(02:09):
Guess what, We're still not back to pre COVID tourism numbers. Plus,
does anybody seriously believe those MB cost benefit analyses that
they do to determine whether we should host an event
and whether we should put public money in the dancing
competition that they talked about last year? You know the
net benefit will be ten million dollars, so you just

(02:30):
pop five million dollars into the kitty here, Really are
we buying this? Do we still trust these numbers, especially
after MB screwed up the calculations on the cost benefit
analyses of major events for the best part of two years.
We learned that last year too. Don't get me wrong,
loved the event at the weekend, loved the vibe. But

(02:51):
if we can't make the numbers work, or we can't
trust the numbers, it should be an easy no. Because,
like its residents, Auckland tourists also like a place that
looks presentable, is easy to get around, and isn't covered
in road cones and scaffolding.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
There was a delay, but the hostage release and Gaza
ceasepire now underway.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
There are a couple of white buses. They've just pulled
up there in the last ten or fifteen minutes, and
the expectation is that the prisoners will get on those
buses and then be taken out along this road here.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Don't forget, this is only phase one.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
The actual negotiation on the second phase begins sixteen days
into the first phase.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Those are the terms of the agreement, so we don't
entirely know who will be released, and we don't entirely
know what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
As you can imagine a really emotional day for the
hostages families today.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
That's been an emotional roller coaster, especially for the families.
You know, we the volunteers of work there. It's nothing
compared to what the families go through and they deserve
they so much.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Meanwhile, Jerusalem residents not as impressed.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
The also just have to come back. It's a very
very difficult deal.

Speaker 8 (04:07):
Lots of terrorists are being released and it's terrible, but
we have no option.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
We release killers. They will come back to kill.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's between bad deal to the worst deal to the
US we go now. The incoming new White House Press Secretary,
Caroline Leavett, has outlined what Trump will talk about tomorrow
at the inauguration.

Speaker 9 (04:28):
You'll hear him talk about the dire economic situation that
many American households have found themselves in because of the
Biden administration's policies.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Then you'll hear him.

Speaker 9 (04:37):
Talk about his plan, his executive action on day one
to fix these problems.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Then you've got many Americans like Pam here who already
are queuing to get into the Washington victory rally.

Speaker 10 (04:48):
There's a lot to be done in this country.

Speaker 11 (04:50):
We've got to get our border under control, we've got
to get inflation under control the economy, and there are.

Speaker 10 (04:56):
Multiple other reasons.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Let's bring everybody back together against it's such a device. Finally,
this morning, scientists reveal what they believe to be the
real name of Jesus Christ. These are the theology experts
from the Netherlands who've been tracing the origins of the
name back two thousand years. How do you even do that? Seriously?

Speaker 12 (05:19):
What are your time machines?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Probably phone books? Are you looking in the phone?

Speaker 12 (05:22):
But honest, so you go back in a time machine
and then you go to a phone booth.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
This stuff just is I think this just lies written
in the news personally anyway. They believe Jesus would have
gone by a name in his own native language, and
that the name Jesus even contains letters which weren't used
in written language until fifteen hundred years after his death.
Back in those days, your last name was also based

(05:46):
on your hometown, So jesus last name, according to these scholars,
would have actually been Yessue Nazarene.

Speaker 12 (05:55):
I'm certain to wonder whether that whole Bible thing is
the reliable reference book we were led to believe.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Oh, I have been questioning that myself for some years.
Lent right. It is twelve minutes after six News Talk
ZB Business.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Next the Mike Asking Breakfast full show podcast on a
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Speaker 3 (06:15):
News Talks EDB. Just gone quarter past six. Coming up
after six thirty this morning, we're going to talk about
bmb's not Airbnb's, but bed and breakfast, like the old
school ones, where you actually go and stay with somebody
who lives there. I've always found it a little bit
weird personally. Why would you do that when you can
rent an entire house that you can have to yourself. Anyway,
they are having a bit of a moment we'll talk

(06:36):
to them after six thirty this morning, are sixteen after
now you can right, we're talking business now. Greg Smith,
Devon Funds Management. Greg, Good morning, morning, Happy.

Speaker 13 (06:52):
New year on the twenty January.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And it feels a bit weird, doesn't that we are
a little late, but it's the first time we've spoken,
so it's a pass. Things all tough for the manufacturing
sector here in New Zealand, Greeg.

Speaker 13 (07:03):
Yeah, they sure are, so yeah, we're seeing some recurrent
themes around weakness and the economy in particularly the manufacturing sector.
This is the latest support from BENZ Business in New Zealand.
So the report was called December Doldrum, so that's a
bit of a giveaway. So the pm I was forty
five point nine, so anything below fifty we're in contraction territory.
So that's pretty much where we are, up slightly from November,

(07:24):
but well below historical averages. The manufacturing sector Ryan has
now been in contraction for twenty two consecutive months. And
there was also another unwelcome records the first time in
the survey's history that all twelve months of a year
were in contraction and the next closest to give you
an idea was the global financial crisis, and we had
nine of the twelve months there in contraction, so yeah,

(07:45):
things are pretty tough for the manufacturing sector. You were
seeing a slow down the economy, were seeing slowest consumer demand.
Still there's less stuff needs to be manufactured. There wors
and bright spots, so let's have a look at those
got new orders. They lifted a little bit, as it
did employment, but the overall mood iuvary somber proportion of
negative comments stood at fifty nine percent. But let's try

(08:05):
and draw in something a little bit more upbeat. Last
week's forward looking in ZI the ire Quality Survey Business
Opinion did say that or did show that firms are
expecting things to approve in the next six months, and
that was a positive territory on a net basis for
the first time since twenty seventeen, so a lot of
currency that's expected to help the exports side. And Benzen
they reckon the manufacturing sector is going to grow by

(08:27):
one percent this year, so that's not much but better
than the two point seven percent contraction estimated last year.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
So yeah, we'll take that absolutely, especially after twenty two
months of declines to the US started getting a bit
excited over there about the arrival of Trump. Yeah, they
certainly are.

Speaker 13 (08:42):
In fact, so the US industry has had the best
weeks since the week of the presidential election. So the
Dow was up three point seven percent, the S and
P five hundred was up two point nine percent, the
Nasdaq tech stocks are back on that out they were
up two and a half percent. So here's a bit
of guesswork of course around all things Trump. And we've
got the inauguration, haven't we very soon in the next couple
of days. But yeah, I suppose the themes around deregulation, lower

(09:05):
taxes are being viewed positively. And yeah, just the prospect
of I suppose a soft economic landing for the economy,
and there's obviously a lot of talk about that, and
that's in the air. It was a bit of dataction
in this front on Friday as well, so the US
housing starts they rose fast and expected it in effect
eleven percent higher in December than they were in November,
so it's.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Positive news as well.

Speaker 13 (09:26):
We also saw a couple of reports last week which
show the inflation obviously that remains a big topic pressures
their moderating, so we've got the core CPI that came
in that rose less than expected, likewise to the producer
price in next and it's also relevant head of the
feed which meets at the end of this month. And
we're also to be a result seasons. We'll talk about
that this week. But we've got the major banks. I've

(09:47):
kicked things off positively. Shares there we're climbing last week.
Gobin Zachs City Group they are up twelve percent, Jping
Orton Chase that jump eight percent. But yeah, a lot
of focus on the inauguration, and he's expected to announce
a few executive orders as soon as he gets into
the hot seat, so let's see there. And also just
one more bit of positive news as well there Ryan,

(10:08):
we had data on the Chinese economies that expanded by
five point four percent in the fourth quarter. So that's
that's dinests kicking in and that's good news for our
biggest customer.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
And conveniently for ishousing paying it's point four percent above
where he said it would be. TikTok time is ticking.
They've gone dark overnight in the United States. I guess
we'll wait and see what Trump does with us.

Speaker 13 (10:30):
Yeah, that's right, So he said he's basically going to
review the situation. He said, the decision will we made
potentially this week, he said, stay tuned, writing in a
post on his own social media app. But yeah, the
CEO of TikTok, he's actually attending the inauguration. He's added
that seven million American businesses use it to make money
and find customers and it's very important. So you stay

(10:53):
tuned there. But yeah, at the moment, that app has
gone dark in the US. Apple and Google they've removed
it from their app stores. And this all stems from
a Supreme Court decision which basically said that the owner
Byte Dance had to divest TikTok or it would be
effectively banned in the US. And that's the situation we
find ourselves in. But yeah, as Trump says, stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And all right, we will. What are the numbers?

Speaker 13 (11:17):
So it was a positive down Friday the day I
was up point eight percent forty three four eight seven.
There's a cup one percent five nine nine six s
and P five hundred that was up one and a
half percent, foot CE one hundred that was up one
point four percent. In the UK, disappointing retail sales darted.
There was increased hopes of the right cap by the
Bank of England nick Eye down point three percent, ASEX
two hundred, down point two percent, exets fifty in New Zone.

(11:39):
We had a good down Friday, out one percent thirteen
one thirty and we're one point eight percent.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
High for the week, so that's positive.

Speaker 13 (11:44):
Gold that was down eleven dollars two thousand, seven hundred
and three and ounce oil down eighty cents seventy seven
spot eighty eight. It's got that cease fire, which is
good news there. And the currency market's the US style
against a k we fifty five point nine down slightly.
Against the A dollar, we were down slightly as well,
ninety points one six and forty five point eight nine
against stealing that was upsolutely this week. Ron We've got

(12:05):
plenty going on as well. We've got more earning supports
coming out of the US, got likes of Netflix and
American Express. We've got obviously the inauguration and look out
for those executive orders. We've got the Bank of Japan
meeting as well. Any Back home, we've got a dear
option and the inflation number, which is going to be
pretty relevant to the RBNZ for the December quarter.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yes, certainly, well, Greg, thank you for that. Quite a
comprehensive rundown from you, Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management as
it always is. Twenty one minutes after six on News
Talk ZBB. What's trending next?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
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Speaker 3 (12:43):
Twenty four minutes after sex News Talk SEB. I'll tell
you what. There's a report come out on the Money
Day and Maria one of two that's going to come out,
and I'll tell you what the details are. And we've
got details coming out and came out this morning. I'll
tell you what they are shortly right now. Though, after
a huge.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Year for ending now with Chemist ware House Savings every.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Day trending stories, horror in Hollywood, it's been taking off.
Apparently it's had a bit of a year in twenty
twenty four, and the movie makers wanting to keep this
genre at the forefront of twenty twenty five as well,
enter a new horror film based on a Stephen Kings
short story called The Monkey. It sounds lame, but I'm
sure it's not all about a toy monkey playing a

(13:22):
drum discovered by twin brothers that cause us death wherever
it goes.

Speaker 14 (13:26):
The coroner said it was an accident, but it was
no accident.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
It was a monkey.

Speaker 14 (13:36):
When I was a kid, my twin brother and I
found something that loved to kill. Hello, brother, the monkey
that likes killing our family.

Speaker 15 (13:48):
It's back.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It must be vanquished.

Speaker 14 (13:51):
Why don't you vanquish it?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Humpbell?

Speaker 11 (13:55):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

Speaker 14 (13:58):
We have been chosen to witness its power over life
and death in its most devious ways.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, okay, I don't know that. I'll go and see that.
But interesting, that's stirring the rounds, and they're obviously promoting
at the studios. THEA James stars as both of the twins.
Must be a complicated job that also starring Elijah Wood
and Allison Levy, produced by James wen Now he did
the conjuring, he did sore, So I guess it's got
to be good, doesn't it. Theaters to February twenty first,

(14:33):
apparently I went and saw the conclave, which is the
one about the pope picking the new pope. The white smoke,
black smoke thing, quite good, quite good, really weird ending
for those who've seen it, you know what I'm talking about.
Truly bizarre. It was a thriller. It's meant to be scary.
We were laughing. People in the cinema were laughing by
the end of it because it was just so absurd. Anyway,

(14:54):
twenty seven minutes after six, you're on News Talk sai'd
be news.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Is next Moley never.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Setting the agenda and talking the big issues.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Ryan Bridge on the mic hosking breakfast with the range Rover,
the la designed to intrigue and use talks d B.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Good morning, it is twenty three minutes away from seven.
Great to have your company this morning. Coming up after seven,
we're going to ask business, what exactly do you want
from this revamped ministry that Nikola Willis is going to
be taking charge of. No longer economic development, which was
sort of the poor cousin of finance. It was like
the entrede to the main but now apparently going to

(15:35):
be given more prominence. What exactly does it mean is
this window dressing? Will it actually change anything? Will ask business?
After seven bed and breakfasts of the traditional type of
taking off. Apparently it's been the busiest summer ever and

(15:55):
this is exactly the type of music I imagine they
would play when you walk into a bed and breakfast
accompanying some good chat, hearty chat. Anyway, it's been the
busiest summer ever, apparently, according to some of those operating
the boutique at home experiences here in New Zealand, and
hosts are already seen bookings for twenty twenty six.

Speaker 16 (16:12):
Am.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Marie Johnson is a Bed and Breakfast Association president. He's
with us this morning, Emory, Good morning, Marianna, thanks for
being with me. First of all, are you, I'm assuming
you own an AIRB a bed and breakfast yourself.

Speaker 8 (16:25):
Well, actually, Ryan, I don't. I was brought on to
the board as a representative of the wider tourism industry.
I was working for industry alt roer at the time,
and so I bring a different set of skills to
the board.

Speaker 16 (16:38):
Okay, but you're obviously very happy to talk about b
and bs.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You're in charge, So convince me why should I book
a B and B when I can book any Airbnb
and have no one in the house.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
Well, I think that's the whole point, Ryan, is that
you have the opportunity to stay with people in their
own homes to actually fought. Especially for US international visitors,
it's an opportunity to meet real keyws, learn more about
our way of life and our customs. And of course,
when you're new into the country, you can not necessarily

(17:12):
know all the best things to do, and so our
hosts are able to offer that really personalized, unique experience
of being able to tell visitors what they can do
in the local area and be able to really really
tailor that experience to their own interests.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And people are doing this more and more. You had
a good year this year last year, rather, yes, we did.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
A lot of our members are telling us it's there.
They're having their best season ever and that's even from
pre COVID, So that really shows that there is demand
for this type of personalized, unique experience.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
So what the Airbnb thing is that making your life
easier or harder? Are you getting more business because you
can book bmb's three abnb well, or are they stealing
cutting your lunch?

Speaker 8 (18:03):
Well, it's a bit of both. Actually, many of our
members actually do market their properties on those platforms like
Airbnb or the other platforms that are out there, but
it also does create a bit of confusion around what
customers are booking if it's not absolutely clear whether it's

(18:23):
a hosted experience or an unhosted property.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
All right, nice one, Amory, thank you very much for that,
Amory Johnson Bed and Breakfast Association President twenty to seven,
Ryan Bridge. I've been to a B and B once
in my life. I think it was with my parents
and we went to Funaday and there was a woman,
lovely woman, older woman, who was a little bit dickery
and was pouring tea for everybody at the table, which

(18:47):
was nice hot water obviously, and just spilt the hot
water all over my mum. And my mum is such
a lovely, polite and sort of reserved person that she
just took it.

Speaker 12 (18:58):
She has said, thank you, thank you for scording.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
The look on her face was like, you know, she
was in.

Speaker 12 (19:06):
There's nothing more than a good old fashioned scolding.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I always say, honestly, anyway, I mean, I'm sure it's
not all B andb's are like that, obviously, and it
is largely international tourists that come and do it here,
so so good on them. I suppose personally, it's it's
not for me because you just don't know what you're
going to get. Do you life is like a box
of chocolates, and that chocolate might just talk all the time.
And if you're on holiday and you're there to relax,

(19:31):
that is not my idea of relaxing, just personally, just personally.
Nineteen minutes away from seven, you're o news talk, said B.
I promised you, Charlie, what's going on with the moneyed
over them? And I and I will do that right now.
So there's been two reports coming. One is from STATS
in Z, the details of which were made public this
morning and the Herald. And there's another one coming which
is the Public Service Commission and that's the main one

(19:53):
that is still to come, so we don't know what's
going on there yet. But this is all about the
alleged misuse of the census data to try and influence
the election. That was the claim that was made. This report,
which was prepared for stats n Z by RDC. Now
RDC is a consultancy in Wellington. They have said nothing
to see here, basically no evidence of data breaches. They

(20:15):
have curiously made nine recommendations for change, which why would
you make recommendations for change if there's nothing wrong? Anyway,
the report has found nothing wrong when it comes to
the data being used for improper purposes, they do mention,
and you'll remember this going way back, they do mention

(20:35):
the gift vouchers. Remember they were saying, I will give
you one hundred dollars gift voucher like to pack and
say or whatever if you feel your census forman and
people were saying this is outrageous apparently. Don't blame the
agency that the Madai for that. Don't blame the Faro
Order Commissioning Agency which gave them the money. Blame the
government who actually put that as a stipulation in the

(20:57):
contract that they signed. So one out of the five
million dollars that was given specifically was given for that purpose.
Eighteen away from seven, the Mike.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
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TALKSB, News Talks EDB. It has just gone quarter to seven.
Great to have your company on the show this morning.
Lots of your text coming in on B and b's
We stayed in a BMB at ten thirty at night,
says this listener. The people empty the dish wash in
near our bedroom. Not happy had to share the bathroom
to see that's gross. Why would you share a bathroom
unless you know anyway? Neil points out that it is

(21:32):
a lot cheaper obviously. The average cost is around ninety
bucks a night.

Speaker 17 (21:35):
It is a quarter to seven international correspondence with ENNS
and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Bridgard Arnold our US correspondents. Three Israeli hostages have been
released from Hamas backed into Israel. The latest with the
Middle East cease fire. Richard is with us this morning,
good morning.

Speaker 18 (21:54):
Good morning, Ryan, am free out of how many? Yeah,
out of a lot. A bumpy start for the hurdle
being passed now in this fragile effort between Israel and Hamas.
Three hostages, as they say, arriving in Israel. Three Israeli
women romeg and then Emily Damari and Dora and Steinbreckers.
So that's three of nearly one hundred hostages is still

(22:15):
unaccounted for taken by Hamas in their body attacks some
fifteen months back. Their release came after another last minute delay,
this stay, during which the Israelis opened fire once again
in Gars are killing at least twenty six people. Scores
of Palestinian prisoners are being released by Israel. In this
opening phase of the process as well, when Hamas failed

(22:35):
to put out the names of the three hostages being freed,
that brought on this delay, a small right wing faction
of the Israeli Cabinet, the so called Jewish Power faction,
then quit the cabinet. The hostages were put into cars
in Gaza by armed Palestinians wearing masks so they couldn't
be identified by anyone, and in the midst of what
was a pretty chaotic crowd. So that's step one. The

(22:56):
first phase is supposed to extend over six weeks, and
then their follows Phase two, which will be even harder
as they look to the ongoing roles of Israeli troops
and the administration over Gaza and its devastation. Obviously, still
food and supply trucks are starting to move in in
significant numbers again, but once more, there is a long
way to go with it all. President Biden, on his
final day in office, was able to announce a short

(23:19):
time ago that there had been an historic development.

Speaker 19 (23:23):
He said, today the guns in Gaza have gone silent.

Speaker 18 (23:26):
He says, this is perhaps the toughest foreign policy effort
he's ever been engaged in. Says Biden.

Speaker 19 (23:32):
Today sees fire in Gaza and the release of hostages
is a result of a principle and effective policy that
we presided over for months, and we got here without
a wider war in the Middle East many predicted.

Speaker 18 (23:46):
He also says there are other positive opportunities in the
region with the weekning of Hesbola in Lebanon and some
other changes that we've seen in the process of this.

Speaker 19 (23:55):
We've reached the point today because of the pressure Israel
built on a asked back by the United States, the
side regime next door and series gone. Iran is in
the weakest position in decades after the US military helped
defend Israel from Iranian missiles and supported Israel's military response
inside Iran.

Speaker 18 (24:16):
So this is being catastrophic despite words of supposed optimism.
What around twelve hundred is Raeli's killed in that initial
attack by Hamas and forty seven thousand Palestinians killed, an
incredible political division ongoing. There is so much uncertainty head
and I've got to say, toughest issues the region yet
to be decided.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Certainly, as Richard, we have been talking this morning about TikTok.
It's gone dark in the US overnight, but Trump will
bring it back to life.

Speaker 11 (24:42):
Right.

Speaker 18 (24:43):
Well, we'll see what happens. But only a few hours
after they put up the warning notices saying that TikTok
had gone offstream, Trump said he will sign an executive
order now to stall the ban on the app. The
site used here by around one hundred and seventy million people.
Pretty stoning numbers, aren't they. The TikTok site has been

(25:05):
removed also as an app from Apple and Google stores.
But as I say, just a short time after this
happened midnight last night here, Trump said on his social
media the companies should not let TikTok stay dark in
this way, and that he will issue the order tomorrow
giving TikTok an extra ninety days while they work out
how to deal with what pollye here see as the
dangers posed by bytdance the Chinese owners. So add this

(25:29):
to Donald Trump's day one promises, I guess instead it's boss.
The boss of TikTok, Charlzi, who was Singapore rean, is
appealing directly to Trump and will attend his inauguration tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
He says this, I want to thank President Trump for
his commitment to work with us well.

Speaker 18 (25:46):
In his first term, Trump was calling for TikTok to
be closed, but he found it pretty effective in his
last campaign, so he switched views on all of this. However,
other lawmakers have not, says Speaker Mike Johnson today, it's.

Speaker 6 (25:57):
Not the platform that members of Congress were concerned about.
Communist Party. In their manipulation of the algorithms, they have
been flooding the minds of American children with terrible messages,
glorifying violence and anti Semitism and even suicide and eating disorders,
I mean crazy kind of stuff.

Speaker 18 (26:13):
Well, the Biden teams say they are not the ones
who initiated the anti TikTok campaign, but many who make
money through this site are infuriated by what is going on.

Speaker 20 (26:22):
Is one the difference between a video posted on TikTok
that generated about two thousand dollars in revenue and looking
on Instagram and that same video I made three dollars
from it.

Speaker 18 (26:34):
Elon Musk says he would be willing to buy TikTok,
So what owning Twitter or x and TikTok as well.
President Biden has spoken of his worries about the growth
of a mega zillionaire oligarchy and attending the Trump inauguration
tomorrow will be among many others, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos,
Mark Zuckerberg and the whole host of Silicon Valley tech bros.

(26:55):
Or grasping for power.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Fascinating stopper, isn't it? And Trump has us posted a
message on True Social. I'll tell you exactly what he
has said. It's quite interesting what he's proposing and the
timing around it as well. Richard, thanks for your time, Richard Donold,
our US correspondent on his talk, said.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
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real Estate news dogs edb.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Just gone six away from seven, so about an hour ago.
Trump posts on True Social, which is his social media platform,
saying he doesn't want TikTok to go dark, and he
doesn't want He's going to pass an executive order on
Monday in the United States local time. He says Americans
deserve to see our exciting inauguration, so he doesn't. I mean,
he's not particularly worried about the company. He's not particularly

(27:37):
worried about the creators on the platform. He's worried that
people won't see him be inaugurated as again the president
of the United States prison elect, he says, I would
like this is interesting. I would like to see the
United States have a fifty percent ownership position in any
joint venture because obviously they need to sell it to
a US company in order that they continue to operate

(27:58):
in the United States, because they are Some security experts
in the United States think that intelligence agencies think that
they will use it Beijing to spy on Americans, particularly
federal employees in the United States. So if they sell
well even half of it, according to Trump, to an
American owned company of his choosing, then you can keep

(28:20):
your platform. You can keep your billions of dollars in valuation.
Otherwise you're up ship Creek basically just gone five away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
And the ouse.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
This morning, we've got your workplace buzzwords for twenty twenty five.
This is according to Global hr and Payroll company Deal.
They say these are the words that you're most likely
to hear this year in the office and need to
get your head around. So what have we got coming
at number one coffee badging? This is where employer and sorry,
employees pop into the office for a coffee, show their base,

(28:56):
clip the ticket, and then go work elsewhere, whether it
be the cafe alive or maybe just back at home.
Can I just say I think this is absolute bes. Honestly,
when have you ever heard these so called buzzwords that
they bring out every January ever used in a real
life situation or even in the workplace. Never anyway, I'll continue,

(29:16):
then you've got hushed hybrid working? I mean, come on,
what is hushed hybrid working? This is where there is
a general mandate that you must start working from the
office again, but there's an unspoken agreement that hybrid working
is still tolerated because of how much we love working
from home. Now, that to me sounds far more plausible.
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see that a lot

(29:38):
this year, especially in Wellington with some of those bureaucrats.
Deal also says that employers are thinking about what they
call a loanment spaces when employers do come back to
the office. Honestly, I'm not even going to continue with this,
although I would say we do need some more alanement
spaces in this office. Too much shared space.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Here the breakfast show, Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.
Brian Bridge on the mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real
estate finding the buyers others can't use togs, edb good.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Morning, seven after seven. Growth is the name of the
game for the government in twenty twenty five Lux and
yesterday reshufflings cabinet. You would have seen this already, also reshuffling.
What was the economic development portfolio and the process? Melissaly
is out, Nikola Willis is in. It's no longer economic development,
it's economic growth. And Alan McDonald is the EMA's head
of Advocacy, finance and strategy. That's the Employer's Manufacturers Association. Allen,

(30:35):
good morning, boring ro Is this window dressing in your eyes?
Or are you expecting actual change for growth?

Speaker 15 (30:43):
Well? I don't think Minister Willis is into a window dressing,
but she's been handed a pretty tough job because things
are going, as we all know, much slower than everyone
would like. But it's really good to see that focus
on growth because we do need it.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
What is one big bold idea you can for up
this morning for her, because it sounds like she's open
to all and any ideas and she's going to corral
a team of ministers to implement them.

Speaker 15 (31:08):
It was possibly two things, actually, Ryan. One would be
around this rapid depreciation that we've been pushing for for
a while, which is basically allowing businesses to claim back
more and claim back faster if they're investing in new
tech or new machinery. They did it in Australia post COVID.
It does give a bit of a sugar hit, but
it's a really strong signal to business that we're investing

(31:30):
in you and its investment rather than cutting back on spending.
So that would be one. And I think really getting
a couple of decent size, good infrastructure projects away. I
know they want to do this, they've been trying to
get the settings right, but we actually need to get
something away because we're losing a lot of people that
are sort of designed legal engineering top end of the

(31:54):
infrastructure pyramid, but also at the other side the people
who are going to build stuff. So we can do
those and get them away there.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Right, good ideas to appreciation infrastructure. Both of those ideas
are going to mean a hit to the government's bottom line.
Are we too focused? Do you think? And as perhaps
this is something that Nicola Willis could look at. Are
we too focused at getting back to surpas at the
expense of growth?

Speaker 15 (32:19):
I think we possibly are at the stage the Zilder's
is very good at understanding the cost of everything that's
out looking at the value, and I think we're at
that point where we're just going to have to bite
the bullet, maybe go go push our debt levels out
a bit higher than we're possibly comfortable with Orthough possibly targeting,
but actually spend some money to make some money.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, that's an interesting remit for the minister certainly, isn't it.
What about some of the asset recycling that's been spoken about.
Roger Partridge did a really interesting piece in the Herald.
I don't know if you've read it the other week,
talking about exactly this. We need to open up foreign
investment and we need to start recycling some of those assets,
a huge portfolio of the government owns.

Speaker 15 (32:59):
Yeah, what's a good piece, Roger. And it's something that's
worked really well in other jurisdictions. I mean that's our
New South Wales's got its big infrastructure building projects underway
and we've seen the difference that that's making to Sydney. Yes,
can be very disruptive, but we also have to get
out of that mindset where it's privatization by stealth or
whatever you want to call it. We've got to look

(33:20):
at what we've got on how we use it, and
that's our set recycling. But also I think too, we
really must move quickly on opening up for overseas investment
that's worked in other jurisdictions our size, Ireland, for example,
the Prime Minister's seen that work. We've got to open
those stores. We've got to bring in that money and
if needed, bringing a workforce too.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Alan, thank you for that. Alan McDonald's AMA head of Advocacy,
Finance and Strategy on health and the reshuffle. Simeon Brown
is with us coming up after seven thirty. It's now
ten after seven Ryan Bridge. Incredible scenes out of Tel Aviv,
well out of Gaza City. Actually, when it comes to
the release of the hostages, three hostages from Israel have

(34:00):
been released by Hummas. So you've got these hooded Hummas
terrorists with AK forty seven's handing over three young Israeli
women to the Red Cross, who will then hand them
over to the IDF. The three hostages have been handed back.
At the same time, you've got hundreds of Palestinian prisoners
being released from Israel. And Jeffrey Miller is with us
this morning for the very latest. Jeffrey, good morning to you,

(34:22):
international morning. Good to have you on the show, an
international geopolitical analyst. Of course, this has been a sort
of a touch and go overnight, hasn't it.

Speaker 21 (34:33):
It has, And we all had our breath last night
when the seasfire was delayed for several hours, and there
was a possibility perhaps that the whole thing would have
fallen over, But in the end it was just delayed
and it has come into falls them. That's good news
for all of Palestinians, for Israelis as well. This war
has just been catastrophic's been devastating over the past fifteen months,

(34:55):
and it's just such good news to see the seasfire
in place and those first hostages returning to their families.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
And obviously everyone's hoping that it holds. Phase one is
thirty three hostages in exchange for about two thousand Palestinians.
Do you expect it to hold?

Speaker 21 (35:14):
Look, it's anyone's guess. Really, it's just so early. I
think in the piece to really make any great productions.
It's a very complex deal. It's a three pay deal
and we won't get the details of the second phase
until the fortnight's time, So basically in a fortnight's time
they will begin talks on the specifics of the second

(35:35):
phase of the deal. So at the moment, Israel still
has some forces around Gaza, and then in the second
phase they meant to make a complete withdrawal. But it's
very much that it's very much dependent on the success
of the first phase. So you know, really if you
want the Sea spar to be a success, the message
for both as Radies and Palestinians and for Hamas is

(35:57):
really that they've got to make it work, and they've
got the hold up a there end of the bargain,
and that's just critical because we just cannot go back
to what we've had. Almost forty seven thousand Palestinians have
been killed in this war. It has been devastating of
course for Israel as well. We shouldn't forget those twelve
hundred Israeli so we're killed way back on October seven,

(36:18):
twenty twenty three, and there's been many Israeli soldiers killed
in the Wars as well. So it's been an absolute
catastrophic event for the Middle East. Has transformed the Middle East,
and we can all hope that this is the beginning
of a new dawn and that things will get better
from here on.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
In absolutely, Jeffrey, thank you for that. Jeffrey Miller, international
geopolitical analyst here on news talk said, we've just gone
thirteen minutes after seven o'clock. It is fascinating watching these
pictures and people Palestinians now returning home, but their homes
are all just rubble, and some of them saying, well,
I'll pitch a tent on top of the rubble because
this is what I used to call home, this is
where I used to live, and this is where I'll

(36:57):
return to. But I mean, what kind of life are
you going to start living there? And who runs Gaza
after all of this is the next big question. Fourteen
after seven when we return, TikTok is off the.

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Speaker 3 (37:23):
In breaking news happening right now in the United States.
TikTok has reportedly just gone live again. TikTok has just
gone live again after going dark overnight. This comes moments
after Trump started essentially negotiating a deal to save TikTok
live on his True social platform, saying he wanted a

(37:44):
fifty to fifty US China joint venture and he wanted
it all back online in time for his inaugurations. America
can watch kaya urif is yuif I should say, is
with us. He's a reporter at the Information covering the
creator economy. Good morning to.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
You, Good morning, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
So just now it's come back on, so it's full
access right now. Are you on TikTok?

Speaker 10 (38:09):
Yes, this morning it was glitching for me a little bit,
but now it is fully back, which is just this
story is just giving all of us whiplash because no
one expected it to be restored quite this soon.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
What exactly was it? It was TikTok's decision to go dark,
wasn't it. They didn't have to do that.

Speaker 10 (38:28):
Yeah, So earlier this week, my colleague and I, Sylvia
Varnam O'Regan, who is a Kiwi, we reported that TikTok
was decided to go dark proactively to shield its service
providers from liability because the law actually doesn't ask TikTok
to go offline, and it makes it illegal for its
service providers to continue providing service. So TikTok took that step,

(38:51):
but TikTok disappeared from the app store, so those service
providers did also cut off service as well as TikTok yesterday.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
So does that name now that it's on live again,
that it's potentially putting itself at legal risk.

Speaker 10 (39:04):
Yes, but it sounds like from the statement from TikTok
that they were provided the necessary clarity from President Trump
that the service providers felt that they were not face penalties.
What's so interesting though, is we're still on Sunday and
it's still the Biden administration, so Trump does not take
office until tomorrow. So it is quite shocking to see
them take this step and feel that those assurances are

(39:28):
you know, enough for them to not get fined.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Who do you think, because Trump's talking about a fifty
to fifty joint benja, who do you think would be
the obvious contender from the American side.

Speaker 10 (39:37):
It's so interesting because there's been you know, in twenty
twenty when Trump kicked off this whole conversation and wanted
to ban TikTok. Initially there was Walmart, there was Oracle,
there were these big American companies, And this time around,
you know, there have been some buyers. You know, Kevin
O'Leary from Shark Tank Fame has teamed up with billionaire

(39:58):
former Los Angeles Dodgers owner Frank McCort on a bid.
So there are you know, mister Beast, the biggest YouTuber
has expressed interest in, you know, working with investors. But
these are all kind of ideas that have been floated perplexity.
An AI company has said they're interested in buying TikTok.
So there are certainly people who are interested. But the

(40:18):
question is, you know, what is the cost? How are
they going to hammer out a deal? So there's a
lot of open questions still and whether a fifty percent
ownership position would satisfy the law.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Just finally, a lot of people might be listening to
this thinking, do you know what, I just don't care.
It's a bunch of people dancing in front of their phones.
So what if you can't see it right now?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (40:42):
So, I mean there are millions of creators who make
their livelihoods through TikTok, or at least a majority of them.
Same thing with small businesses, so the economic impact of
this would really be enormous, as well as the community
of users who love TikTok who have found you know,
community and niches there and entertainments. So it really has
gone so much far beyond dance videos but into mental

(41:04):
health and fitness and all these other categories.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
All right, thanks so much for that, and we'll wait
and see what happens. Obviously a lot happening with Donald
Trump involved. That is a kaya yurie if she's a
reporter of the information covering the creator economy. It is
twenty after seven Yon News Talks V still to come.
I'll tell you what's happening with champagne sales because it's
quite interesting. Also the reshuffle and what this means for
Simeon Brown, what this means for the government and its

(41:30):
pole prospects.

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(42:45):
twenty twenty five. Laser focus is heading the g spot growth.
That is not surprising. The numbers pre Christmas were absolutely abysmal.
Our worst recession since nineteen ninety one. Remember that business
liquidation's highest in a decade. Real GDP for the year
to jur and get this is expected to be drum
roll please, zero point five percent GDP per person per

(43:09):
capita is the one that matters, and that's going to
be negative again. We will be beaten by the UK.
We will be beaten by the US, which is north
of two percent. Australia, even with Elbow in charge, will
at one point seven percent. Even France will be ahead
of us, and they've barely had a function in government
since before the Olympics, for goodness sake. So Luxe's picked
the right face to punch in this issue. And you

(43:32):
could look at this cynically and say, well, it's window dressing.
Nikola takes economic development now growth of Melissa Ly, which,
by the way, immediately sounds like such a good idea.
You wonder how Melissaly lasted a year and what sounds
like an important portfolio to begin with, right, But the
fact is it hasn't really been seen as a major
portfolio until now, more of a side dish than a

(43:53):
main So will this really change the dial that is
the question, and that all depends on how ambitious will
will be in giving this a go and getting us
out of this hole. Sharpen the razer I reckon in
the public service, privatize some assets. Roger Partridge did a
great piece in The Herald the other week about this,
saying exactly this, Why do we own so many assets?

(44:15):
Why don't we sell down our stake in them? Governments
are generally crap at running stuff unless you're the last one,
which was rather good at running us into the ground,
into the hole that we now find ourselves in. So
will they look at things like tax breaks for multinationals
like Ireland did? Are they going to be big and bold?
Talk is cheap and a reshuffle won't fix our problems.

(44:36):
But if Nikola and her team of senior ministers that
she'll be corralling to focus on growth have the kahoonas
to make big, confident and game changing calls. If they
can begin to turn around our thirty year productivity slide
even a pinch before the next election, then it won't
just be our collective prosperity grown growing, but surely it'll

(44:57):
be Luxon's poll numbers two. Bryan Bridge, it has just
gone twenty seven minutes, sorry, twenty six minutes after seven?
How long we got here? Like's talk about champagne. We
can't talk much about champagne in fifteen seconds. You can
barely get a sip in you. Anyway, I'll do that
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Speaker 3 (45:38):
Good morning, it is twenty three minutes away from eight
y're on news Talk, said b Mike Hoskin will be
back with you next Tuesday morning. For those who are interested.
I'll be here until Monday, and it is great to
have your company. We're all drinking less champon, according to
a Telegraph story this morning, as champagne sails down ten
percent last year. And it's not just internationally, it's in France.

(45:59):
And you know, if even the French aren't drinking champagne,
there's a problem. What is going on here? Obviously there's
a cost of living, but they reckon that there's more
to this. And it's not just champagne that's going to
be affected. It's alcohol generally. So you've got your gen
zs or gen Z's whatever, and your millennials who are
drinking less booze, they're doing more mocktails and in the

(46:22):
United States marijuana, they're doing gummies instead of drinking champagne.
So that's having an effect on sales they reckon. Also,
you've got your baby boomers who are retiring and spending
less on wine, particularly expensive champonts.

Speaker 12 (46:37):
So what you have when you proca it's all about
prosecco now, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Certainly, especially if you're on a budget, Glenn, And especially
if you've got a bottle of apparole duty free. Bob's
your uncle, you're home and host.

Speaker 12 (46:48):
And when you're not wasting champagne on an apparole spread.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Well, no one who does that. It's like a mimosa.
Does anyone actually put champagne in a mimosa? No, And
when no one's looking, you pour the pres go and
and then you add the orange juice and no one
would know the better anyway. That's probably more part of
the problem as well as prosecco taking over. So you've
got prosecco, your gen Zs and your boomers and along.
And the short of it is Champagne sales are down.

(47:14):
And so what I was thinking, what we need to
do is to make up for all of this, the
gen zs and the boomers by drinking more and do
our bit for the Champagne region of France. It is
twenty two minutes away from it.

Speaker 12 (47:25):
It's a new door, it's a new day, it's a
new life.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
That's a new dome. Yes, the Prime Minister has turfed
out his health qualified Health Minister Shane Retti is gone.
Simeon Brown is in this based of his performance as
Transport and Local Government Minister. Simeon Brown, the new Health Minister,
is with me this morning. Minister. Congratulations or I guess commiserations,
depending on how you look at it.

Speaker 22 (47:52):
Thank you appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Lester Levy, are you going to keep him on?

Speaker 15 (47:58):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (47:58):
Look, I'm meeting with him this morning. He's coming down
meeting Wellington. I'm heading down there now. He's being brought
in to do a job, which is to make sure
that we get a health system delivering. That's my focus,
is mister, making sure it's delivering. Quality and timely access
to health if all New Zealanders. That's the focus that
I've been given from the Prime Minister and that's what
I'll be making very clear to to Dodtor Lester.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
So it's not making the progress you need right now.
Does that mean that he's gone too well?

Speaker 22 (48:24):
I think what we've seen from the health targets which
doctor Shanel ready brought back in, we are starting to
see some of those things state liners, but there is
so much more work to do. We need to see
New Zealanders getting through ed's emisions departments, faster access to
the GPS sooner. Elective wait times have started to reduce,
but we need to see those reduced a lot further.

(48:44):
So those are the priorities I've got as Minister of
Health and that's what I'll be focused with it. Where
it's the Ministry of Health, where it's Health New Zealand.
When you have whole system delivering.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Do you have confidence in him to do that?

Speaker 22 (48:56):
Are we meeting with doctor lysterliber He's been given a
job is and that job to them this year. But
I need the whole system to be focused on delivery.
That is going to be the simple and clear message,
whether it's the Ministry of Health Health New Zealand the
whole system focused on delivery for all New Zealanders.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
He does. You don't pick the heads of to putter
Order or the ministry itself. He does. Do you want him?
Will you put pressure on him to make changes at
the top there?

Speaker 22 (49:25):
Well, there is change happening regardless of my understanding. Is
the term of the current Chief Executive of Health New
Zealand is coming to an end shortly. They're going to
a recruitment process. That'll be one of the things that
we'll be discussing today. I want to make sure that
the people leading that organization are ruthlessly focused on delivery
and almost targets this government has has set. The New

(49:46):
Zealanders can get access to quality and timely healthcare. That's
what they need.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
That's what I want.

Speaker 12 (49:52):
I want the people in changing.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
What about Marjorie Order.

Speaker 22 (49:56):
Well, her term means are shortly and they are going
to a recruitm for his for a new CE and
we'll be talking about that with top tost Levy later today.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
The Waikato Medical School gone by lunchtime.

Speaker 22 (50:07):
Oh look, there's a lot of issues I haven't been
fully briefed from heading to Wellington. Now that are we
One of the issues will be getting up to speed
with overcoming weeks. There's big cabinet decisions that have we made,
and once those decisions are made, what we will be
announcing those. But look, a lot of issues I need
to get my head around and stay focused and get
really focused on. But number one focus is making sure
all New Zealanders can access to that quality and time

(50:29):
healthcare that they need.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Have you spoken to Shane?

Speaker 15 (50:33):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (50:33):
I did.

Speaker 22 (50:33):
I had a good chat to doctor Shane. You say,
we're actually really good friends. I have a huge amount
of respect for him. He's worked incredibly hard and dilligently
in this portfolio, put in places good foundations. But now
we need to really focus on delivery. And yeah, he's
ready committed to making sure he works to give me
a good handover as well, which I really appreciate.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
I'm hearing a lot of your back benches are getting
a bit angsty with Luxeon that they're starting to talk
and talk quite loudly. What's your message to them after that,
particularly after that pole that had you in the twenties.

Speaker 22 (51:03):
Well, look, not at all. I think the reality is
where as a team, the whole caucus is focused on
delivery tweenw Zealanders. That's what we're focused on. That's what
you said, reshuffles about making sure we're focused on economic growth,
getting public getting healthcare on track, focus on delivery. That's
this year and it's all about and the Prime Minister
is very clear and that message comes from the top
and all the way down and hold things focused on that.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Unions they're going to be your big battle, your real
big battle, and they insist as a hiring freezon the
hospital sector right now is there.

Speaker 22 (51:34):
Look I haven't met fully briefed it.

Speaker 15 (51:36):
Also.

Speaker 22 (51:36):
Look I'm not a union organization organizer. I'm not from
the sector. I'm just focused on making sure New Zealanders
can get access to the timely, quality health care that
they need. That's my focus. Those are the conversations I'm
having with unions when we meet at some point. You know,
how can we make sure New Zealanders can get access
to the quality and timely health care that they need.
That's the number one focus and the whole system needs

(51:57):
to be focused on that.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
All right, minister, thank you very much for your time.
That is the new Health Minister Simeon Brown just gone
seventeen minutes away from it. It's not an easy job.
In fact, it's probably the hardest ministry in government. You've
got eighty thousand employees that work for TOFATO order. Did
you know how many employees that is? That is more
than Fletcher's woolworst from Terror, the warehouse in New Zealand
and Kmart combined. And most of them are union members.

(52:22):
It's an absolute nightmare, especially for a national MP. So
good luck. I mean there's a lot of work to do,
so I he'll be getting stuck in this morning. He said.
It's meeting with Lester Levy seventeen away from eight. Coming
up before eight. We are talking Auckland Council and will
we put ratepayer cash into getting sale GP here long term?

Speaker 2 (52:41):
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Speaker 3 (52:47):
At B thirteen away from eight News Talks there be.
The Wall Street Journal does a quarterly survey of its economists,
and seventy three economists have been covered in this one,
which is about what they usually do anyway. The interesting
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They expect to increase two point seven percent for in
December between twenty five compared to two point three percent

(53:10):
now that was projected just three months ago. So basically,
because Trump is coming into the White House, inflation will
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result of the increase in inflation, and obviously because of
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(53:34):
are more expensive for longer. Obviously it's good for our exporters.
It is thirteen minutes away from eight tennis Novak Djokovich,
so he's refusing to do a postmatch interview. This is
over at the Australian Open. But the story that I
really liked from the weekend was about Danielle Collins. Never
heard of her before, but she's a tennis player, she's American.
She was playing at the Australian Open and she wins. Right.

(53:57):
This was in the second round of the Aussie Open.
She's now out, but she won this match and the
Australian crowd shame on you. Melbourne shame on you. Australia
was booing her because she was playing an Aussie favorite,
right was booing her throughout the match, So she's blowing
kisses to them as she's playing. She even slaps her

(54:17):
bum at one point and says this in the post
mention insterview.

Speaker 20 (54:21):
You know, I was thinking during the match, I was like, hmm,
if I'm out here, I might as well just take
that big fat peycheck and.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
U kocho y I love.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
We love a good.

Speaker 18 (54:33):
Five star vacation.

Speaker 10 (54:34):
So part of that check is going to go towards that.

Speaker 20 (54:37):
So thank you, guys, thanks for coming out here and
supporting us tonight.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
The equivalent of a middle finger to the entire crowd
who was there, and good on her. I love that
confidence because imagine playing in an arena like that. I mean, well,
first of all, imagine playing a game of tennis half
well to begin with, But imagine playing in an arena
like that and everybody's booing at you in that way.
I think, shame on the Australian crowd and good on

(55:06):
her that. You know Americans have that confidence, don't they.
I mean, can you imagine a New Zealander under that
kind of we would just be cowering under a bush,
wouldn't we crying ourselves to sleep. We just don't have
that kind of comeback in US generally, but more generally booing,
you know at a league game, fine, yeah, it's your job.

Speaker 12 (55:26):
To tell the ref that the other teams off side
of US.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
Golf. No, it should be though, but I mean, they
wouldn't be heading the balls. They're too fragile. Tennis quite
an intimate arena. I think in the League of golf
you wouldn't boo at a tennis game. You shouldn't build
a tennis game, nor should you build a golf game,
But at a league game it's fine. Anyway. The shame

(55:51):
is on Australia and you guys just gone ten away
from eight.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
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Speaker 3 (56:03):
Seven away from eight on News Talk said B great
to have your company this morning. Nineteen ninety two is
the number of text By the way, I am reading
your messages as they come, and I'll get to some
of them shortly. Right, Australia may have taken the wind
out of the Black Foils sales but certainly not the fans.
More than twenty five thousand people attended the inaugural Auckland
League of Sale GP, and that's excluding those that are

(56:24):
in the pubs or who are out on the water,
or if you were like me, who were just wandering
around these CEOs. Sir Russell Kurtz's signaled interest in a
longer term deal maybe five years, but beyond next year
a return to Auckland remains a bit of a mystery.
Nick Hill is the Tartaki Auckland Unlimited CEO. It's the
council controlled organization that does this stuff. He's with us

(56:45):
this morning, Nick, Good morning, morning, Ryan. Hey, great event.
You must be pretty stoked.

Speaker 5 (56:51):
Absolutely thrillled. It delivered on every aspect and more so,
it was a huge success.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
What is this for Auckland.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Very narrowly, it drives economic Benefit's five million GDP we estimated.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than that. It
helps to attract visitors, It helps to tell the story
around who we are as a city and awking to
to s get to enjoy the benefits of being out

(57:25):
and enjoying events and what it does to the city.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
The five million number. You're talking about, where did the
number come from? Because MB had some problems trying to
calculate the net benefit of hosting events like this. I mean,
are these numbers actually reliable?

Speaker 5 (57:41):
It's look, there's a lot of challenges with how you
measure the value. I personally would say that our number
is conservatives the numbers using crisis We're a lot higher,
but it's a measure of through data that's collected by
an agency Fresh and FOW, who calculates this for us.

(58:03):
So the number itself is kind of reliable, but it
doesn't retell the full story, and that's the challenge. So
we would argue the benefits are actually greater than that,
but we do take a conservative view of the numbers
that are provided, just simply because we have the credibility
of doing these things with decision makers.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Are you guys in talks to do a five year deal.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
Yeah. I spoke to Russell about it on Friday. He
raised with me his arguments are very sound. He's saying,
you do this regularly, have becomes something that people put
in their calendar, becomes associated with the city and everything
kind of works in and around it, and that is
certainly very appealing, very appealing to Auckland. You know, it's
part of our duna.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
What does it cost us?

Speaker 5 (58:47):
So we paid a fee of a million for this event.
I think that that's probably a very reasonable number. And
you know, I've got no idea what we would be
taught talking about in the future. Our issue, there's a
few few issues, but the prime issues around the future
funding path for events. It's an issue that people understand

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that's since COVID we're really struggling to fund events in Auckland.
And you know, it's an area that needs to be resolved.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
And potentially five million dollars if we're looking at a
five minonda, could be looking at five million dollars at
a time when Wayne Brown's obviously taking a bit of
a wrecking ball to you guys.

Speaker 5 (59:30):
So no hell look, no way to be very supportive.
His issue, His issue is primarily how you raise the
funding and he runs a wizard levy.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
All right, Nick, thank you very much for that. Plenty
of wader to go under the bridge, as they say,
Nick Hill can't take the orkand unlimited to see.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
You put some the news.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
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Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
Pork slocks, what pork sluck God media has a full
trush once more off h The sold out crowd will
bring them hold.

Speaker 12 (01:00:30):
They'd rather see black boars, but they're gonna see green
and col as they come to the line.

Speaker 16 (01:00:35):
The Emirates witing moment goes the way of the Australians.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
It is seven minutes after eight year on news talks.
It'd be great to have your company the commentary box
for your Monday morning. Jason Pine and Andrew Several are
with us. Good morning, gentlemen, morning Ryan, how are you
very good? Thank you? And I had a you know,
I'm not a sailing guy, I think it's fair to say,
but I enjoyed watching at the weekend went down there.
What an event, Jason, you were obviously there for us.

(01:01:11):
What happened with our starts?

Speaker 16 (01:01:13):
Yeah, it's a very good question. It's a very good question.
It seems to me as though if you don't get
off the start line well in these events, then it's
really difficult to get anywhere near the top of the field.
And more than once in the very first race of
day one, and then again a couple of times yesterday.
Just a misreading I think of conditions, just not quite
getting things right, but a gear issue as well with

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the black foils, and it really cost them, you know,
they couldn't quite get up the field enough to get
enough points for the final. You've got to give it
to Australia though across the two days. Tom Slingsby had
that boat absolutely humming. I think they were worthy winners
of sale gp Auckland yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Yeah, and Andrew the fans big winners as well, not
just because of that stand that they had erected, but
just the spectator nature of it.

Speaker 15 (01:02:00):
Fether it was.

Speaker 23 (01:02:01):
Fantastic drove over the Harbor Bridge late last week and
saw the grand stand and saw them practicing out on
the course and it brought back very fond memories of
the America's Cup. That's what the town and what the
country has been lacking the last few years. And let's
face it, the America's Cup ain't going to come back here,
is it? No matter what happens on that front. So

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sale GP is it. You'd hope for the next few
years at least great feeling downtown yesterday. I didn't go
to the sailing, but it saw lots of fans walking
to it around the Victoria Park area, so it brought
back that America's cut feel if you like. And I'm
sure the bars and cafes around Win you'd quarter and
Viaduct did very well across the weekend, which is great for.

Speaker 11 (01:02:45):
The city and the country too.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
So good on sale GP for sticking with the n Z.

Speaker 23 (01:02:51):
And you'd hope it's a long term thing as well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Yeah, well it will be a debate, whyn't it Because
we just had Tartaker Yukland unlimitsed on and they reckon,
they pay a million bucks for this one, and you'd
be looking at you assume you'd be looking at the
same and Coots is talking about a five year deal
with you, Jason, so that you're looking at potentially five
million bucks. You know where does that come from? Who
funds that this is? And asue not just for saving

(01:03:15):
but for lots of major sporting events.

Speaker 16 (01:03:17):
Right, Oh no, absolutely, and every city who wants to
attract events to their city. You know, look, I live
in Wellington. I'd be absolutely delighted if my council spend
a million dollars to bring an event like that here.
I know there all the others who say, you know what,
there are a lot of other things that need to
be done before you spend a million dollars on bringing
a bunch of saviors to town. But it's way more

(01:03:38):
than that. As Andrews just said, you know, the hospitality
and retail impact on a city must be enormous. And look,
this is this is not small fry. This is something
that's going to get bigger and bigger. So Russell Coots
is talking about having you know, there are twelve teams
at the moment, having fourteen sixteen, there are fourteen events
at the moment. He's talking about the Grand Prix model
of over twenty. You know, this is only going to

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get bigger. And if you know, if New Zealand misses
the boat, pardon the pard, then it will be to
the detriment of whichever city decides they don't want it. Look,
if I'm opened, I'm getting around the table with Sir
Russell Cooks today and thrashing out that five year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yeah. I mean in Wellington you obviously got bigger priorities,
Like you know, you can barely flush a toilet in Wellington.

Speaker 23 (01:04:22):
And you'd like to think you'd like to think the
million dollars Ryan isn't being taken out of that footbridge
fixing fun exactly exactly between the win you'd quarter and
which never seems to work. You'd like to think that
there's been a budget put aside but that and a
budget for the racing and I think you'd look a

(01:04:46):
million dollars a year, it's bringing a lot more than
that into the city. And then you know you've got
there needs to be events in a city to create
some feel and vibrancy like Luke Holmes on Saturday night.
I was actually increased church on Saturday for the Clash
cricket game and that again created vibrancy around the city.
That's what you need.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Yeah, anyway, we have to park this this debate because
I'm not agreeing with either of you. But when we
come back, I want to ask you about the aucland FC.
They've had a rough few results and now they've bounced back.
Andrew seven and Jason Pine on the what are we
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Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Jason Pine and Andrew several with us this morning. Guys,
welcome back Aukland FC. They have taken Melbourne three nil.
After some any shoddy performances from them a few losses.

Speaker 16 (01:06:03):
Have they back Jason, Well, I'm not sure they ever
really went away. It was an emphatic performance. Well, I'll
rephrase that. It was an emphatic fifteen minutes at the
end of the first half, first half hours a bit
of an armorystle nil all and then in the fifteen
minutes before the break, Awkland the FC got three goals
and two absolute crackice by the way, and all of
a sudden they're out to a three nil lead, which

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proved me, you know, well and truly enough. In the
second half they momentarily or for a couple of hours
went back to the top of the table. Adelaide United
a couple of hours later won their game and went
back to the top and goes to meet in Adelaide
on Wednesday night. So the quintessential top of the table clash.
Macaukland FC are the real deal. You know, I've been

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watching Wellington Phoenix for a long time in the A
League and awko, the FC have sort of busted the
door down and in their first season have proved to
be a terrific addition not only to.

Speaker 15 (01:06:56):
The A League.

Speaker 16 (01:06:57):
But you know, we've talked about events before, and that's
fifteen thousand there again in the Sunshine on Saturday on
a weekend where there was GP and Luke came plenty
for people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Yeah, phenomenon they see and they seem to have like
a ready made fan base Andrew that just follows them everywhere.

Speaker 23 (01:07:15):
It's it's staggering and I'm going to be interesting interested
rather to see when Super Rugby starts in a few
weeks what the crowd numbers are going to be like
for that compared to or can they see. Yes, it's
a shiny new thing still, but they they've already got
a firm fan base which is quite remarkable. And I
think the last few weeks coming out of that testing
time in the last few weeks, a couple of losses,

(01:07:36):
a couple of drawers. Then to beat the top team
or what was the top team in the league, I
think is a is a great sign that this team
is strong. This team is not going to flake off
or start losing more games that they'll be they'll be
testing times again during the season. But for a new outfit,

(01:07:57):
a new franchise, to bounce back from a couple of
rough weeks I thought was outstanding.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Jason, I love this story about Daniel Hillier at the
Dubai Desit Classic. The money that's involved, the potential winner
taking two point six million dollars.

Speaker 16 (01:08:13):
Yeah, incredible and he finished second overnight, so still a
very very tidy payday for the Daniel Hillier the Wellingtonian.
There is some bright news for Wellingtonians today with Daniel Hillier.
He went to school actually about one hundred meters from
where I'm sitting, so I'll take a small slice of
credit there xbally I'll take none. He's a good young kid,

(01:08:34):
Daniel Hill here, he's starting to really find his feed
on that DP tour. He's very very calm composed, doesn't
let too many things get on top of him. This
really interesting comment after this morning was he now feels
like he belongs on that tour and that is a
you know, an upper racial on tour, the DP European Tour.
So yeah, kudos to Daniel Hilly for what he did overnight.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Absolutely, Hey, the Australian Open, have you been keeping a breast?

Speaker 23 (01:08:58):
What about you makee mo Ryan.

Speaker 15 (01:09:02):
Dog?

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
I think he's got reason to go dog because because
of what the Channel nine reporter said.

Speaker 23 (01:09:10):
Yes, I mean trying to be funny obviously, but it's
completely backfired having a go at the Serbian fans or
trying to be a bit of a smart ass and
it's completely gone wrong. But no, that jock of it,
I mean, just just fend it off. Look, the Aussie
Open fans over the years have always created drama. You know,
you've got the Danielle Collins situation last week, you get

(01:09:31):
the American player who's now out. But there's always controversy
around fans and fan reactions some things that are said
and done at the Aussie Open. That's just part of
the Australian Open. I think Novak maybe just needs to.

Speaker 15 (01:09:42):
Get on with it.

Speaker 23 (01:09:43):
He's got Alcaraze tomorrow in the quarter final and Alkhaze
has been playing some sensational tennis, so looking forward to that.
But I think Novak needs to focus a little more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Well, it's hard to focus when you've got such a
feral crowd around your bondy, Yeah, Danielle found.

Speaker 16 (01:09:59):
Yeah indeed, And Sam's right, you know, of all of
the Grand Slams, this one is the most boisterous as
far as the fans are concerned. And yeah, I wonder
at what point it takes away from what is a
sports streets in history and decorum and that sort of
thing where you are quiet when the players serve. But look,
I tend to side with Sam on this one and
that Novak Djokovic is a big boy. He's been around

(01:10:21):
for a long time, He's won twenty four Grand Slams
once in one of twenty fifty. Should probably focus on
Alcarez rather than whether readoes Postnats interviews or not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Yeah, I think that's fair enough because in my mind
it depends on the arena. But rugby league you can yell,
you can shout golf tennis in my mind at least,
not the arena for it.

Speaker 23 (01:10:42):
Well, you've paid hundreds, if not thousands to get in right,
so you should be able to vent a little bit. Okay,
don't be a knob, but you should be allowed to
make the odd comment, shouldn't you if it's not too
outlandish or boo or cheer or and especially if if
your hometown players up against the villain or up against
you know, a top player and during well, I think

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you should be able to at least, you know, go
for it a little bit, not completely.

Speaker 11 (01:11:09):
Don't be a you know about it. Yeah, that's a
good work, all.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Right, guys, thanks very much for being with me this morning.
Jason Pine with us and Andrew Savil on the commentary
Box for your Monday morning discne at twenty after eight
on News Talk CEDB. Come out. I'll tell you what's
going on with Prince Harry in his legal case over
in the UK, but also what's going on with homegrown
in Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
B twenty four after eight News Talk c B. I'll
get to the homegrown news in just a second. Loving
your text though on the tennis decorum from the crowd
right as of the ASB tennis over the summer, A
guy was constantly cheering for Ben Shelton, a lone voice
in the crowd. When the match got tight, and he
called out when the other guy was serving. The whole
stand told him to shut up and got removed. A

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bit different from the feral ossies, says Kelly Good that
they removed him. Another says just fend it off. This
is about Jokovic, who overnight has refused to do an
interview with the host broadcast of Channel nine because he
says that the broadcaster was saying nasty things about him.
He said he's been treated appallingly by the Melbourne crowd.
What a ridiculous comment from your commentary box earlier, who

(01:12:21):
were suggesting that he should basically just wear it. I
tend to agree. I think, especially with a game like tennis,
you don't want people yelling and booing and stuff like that.
I think there needs to be a little bit more
decorum with it, and then again what would I know?
Meghan and Harry their podcast update on that. And also
this week Harry is getting this day in court finally.

(01:12:43):
This is about the Murdoch Newspapers fiasco. He's suing them,
and a whole bunch of other famous people were sewing
alongside him, but they've now pulled out everyone else, including
Hugh Grant. They've all gone on. I do you know
what the legal build there looks are massive and it's
not like Harry's got lots of money. They keeping about
how poor they are. Anyway, He's going to court this week.

(01:13:04):
We'll see what happens. He's the lone ranger, the lone wolf,
taking on the Murdoch Newspapers. But at the same time,
Meghan is facing accusations that she's a bully and she's
a psychopath. This is from staff who worked on her podcast.
Apparently she's quite nasty and they have come out and
said they're speaking their truth. And everybody's got their truth,

(01:13:26):
don't they. Anyway, The headline is all about the fact
that they're going to need long term therapy. This is
the staff that worked for Meghan Markle.

Speaker 12 (01:13:35):
Yeah, a lot of people don't understand how stressful it
can be producing a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
You would know, well, I know.

Speaker 12 (01:13:41):
And I'm just thinking on hearing this why I don't
have a staff.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
It's just me. Does you are you abusive to yourself?

Speaker 18 (01:13:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Sometimes. That's the thing that gets me about this story
overall is the fact that anyone who rotates in the
circles that Harry and Meghan do would be getting long
term therapy anyway, do you know what I mean? It's
the California thing to do. Everyone's in therapy, so it's
not like that's something that's a revelation I would have
thought anyway. Twenty six minutes after eight Jim Beam Homegrown

(01:14:12):
it's leaving Wellington. Sorry, this is bad news to give
you on a Monday morning, but it's leaving. This year
for the iconic festival will be its last. It's going
to move cities. We don't yet know. As far as
I can tell, where exactly it's going to move. They
haven't revealed that for a myriad This is the statement
for a myriad of personal and logistical reasons, Home Ground
is moving cities after this year. We can be more

(01:14:34):
grateful for the unwavering support we've had from fans and
the city. They also want to thank Wellington end Z
and Wellington City Council. You do wonder where the support
from the council might have been shocked as they pack
their budget to reign and rape rises there who knows.
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I'll be here yours truly were I'm very happy to
be and the inauguration will be taking place right just
about as we go to air, so we'll bring you
updates throughout the morning, et cetera. Blah blah. But what's
happened in the last twenty four hours is the reports
coming from the New York Times. This is about Biden.

(01:15:28):
Remember when Biden's campaign donations just fell off a cliff
all of a sudden, And obviously it's because people were
reading the tearle's and saying he's not going to win. Apparently,
also what he was doing in private at these private homes,
So fundraisers would happen at private homes, small groups of people.
He would require a teleprompter, which freak obviously freaked the

(01:15:49):
donors out because they're like, can this guy not speak
of his own accord? And they were asked to provide
questions that they were going to ask him and advance
to his team. So at some point you've got to
ask himself for your donor is this man real or
is he a robot? You know, in fact, robots are
easier AI is way easier to communicate with than Joe Biden.

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Is, well, that's out of Australia this morning. You hate
speaks laws, Steve, Good morning to you in New South Wales.

Speaker 11 (01:16:24):
Yeah, Goday, Ryan. This comes off the back, obviously of
the latest anti Semitic attack in the eastern suburbs of
Sydney that happened on Thursday Nights Now vision up about
cars being fired Bond and the anti Jewish sentiments being
spread on the house of a formerly owned by one
of the senior Jewish spokesmen in Australia Alex Rifchin and

(01:16:47):
so Chrismins. The Premier is announced today that he'll strengthen
hate speech. A lot of people critical of these laws
exist and they're not used and so I mean, good
on Chrismians for doing this, but will they actually then
be implemented. He said he was increasingly of the view
that hate speech was the initial spark of this brazen antisemitism.

(01:17:09):
You might remember, way back just after the October seventh
terror attack by Hamas, there was a gathering on the
steps of the Opera House in Sydney and there was
some conjecture about what was being chanted, but it was
certainly anti Semitic. And so he says, the governor's strength
and the laws. If someone's preaching hatred in the community
that doesn't manifest itself two or three months later in

(01:17:30):
a fire bombing or an attack or something worse, no
stone we left unturned. This will include bans on protests
that are scheduled to take place out of outside religious institutions.
So that's going to be pretty a pretty big and
significant change to those laws.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
I believe it certainly will be, and quite a job
for the police side to Mengine the Dozen's unofficial campaign
launch taking off.

Speaker 11 (01:17:56):
Yeah, both and Albinizi yesterday. Look, we've got an election.
We don't know the date now. Our system is that
it's a floating date. The Prime Minister decides he has
to go by some time before June this year. The
conjecture is that it will be probably April or May.

Speaker 15 (01:18:13):
But yesterday Peter.

Speaker 11 (01:18:14):
Dutton was in Brisbane, his home state. He made a
major announcement that small businesses that turn over less than
ten million dollars a year will now be able to
claim back twenty thousand dollars as a tax deduction on entertainment. Now,
we used to have a tax deductible entertainment in this
country for keating stopped that brought in a fringe benefits

(01:18:34):
tax and so your boss couldn't take you out to
lunch and fill you up with red wine and give
you a good stake and claimant on his tax. Well
that's going to come back in now. Peter Dutton thinks
that'll bring him some boats. While he was doing that,
Anthony Obneasy was in the western sub of the Sydney
with the new Southwest Premier Christ winsdow Is mentioned and
they're going halves in a billion dollar road widening project

(01:18:58):
to Sydney's new second airport. Now, this second airport, we've
been talking about it since I was in shorts at school.
But it is being built and it will be finished.
But there's only a two lane road that heads into
that region at the moment, and so they're going to
spend a billion dollars. What's this all about, Well, the
road is needed. It was probably already factored in. It

(01:19:19):
was probably already announced, but they've re announced it hoping
that will bring some votes for the Western So Sydney
the Labor Party whenever that election is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Is Novak Djokovic right? Is he justified and refusing to
be interviewed by this Channel nine reporter.

Speaker 11 (01:19:34):
No I was there last night at the Djokovic match
and he would normally have a chitty chat with Jim
Courier live on the coverage. He grabbed the microphone off
Courier and said until he gets an apology from Channel nine,
he won't be appearing on any of which is a

(01:19:55):
bit ridiculous given nines to the actual tennis broadcaster. He
won't appe on the air with anyone from Channel nine.
Tony Jones is a crusty old veteran sports reporter from Melbourne.
He was doing a live cross to nine News last
week and he had a joke about how Djokovic would

(01:20:16):
boot it out of Australia. You might remember he got
chucked out of the country during COVID. He then had
a bit of a crack at Serbian supporters. No one
was taking it seriously into Novak decided to go online
on his social feed and complain about it and says
he now won't appear on Channel nine, which is a
bit silly. He's now going to play al KaAZ in
the quarterfinals, which will be a massive match. I think

(01:20:39):
Channel you'll find Channel nine will be pretty quickly putting
Tony Jones out there today to apologize, but they really
shouldn't need to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
All right, Steve, thanks so much for that. Steve Price,
our Australia correspondent, just gone eighteen minutes away from nine.
I thought i'd play you that clip just so you
can make up your own mind. So there's to sit
the scene basically a bunch of Djokovic fans in the
background and the Channel nine reporter is doing a cross
in front of them, and I don't know, throws a
few slogans out there that are quite derogatory towards Drokovic,

(01:21:08):
including one referencing when he got booted out of Australia
a few years ago. Have listen the Novak Djokovic fans
there in full voice. Yeah, the chances are quite extrety Novak,
he's overrated.

Speaker 19 (01:21:20):
Novaksa has the no back kicking out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
Oh, I'm glad they can't hear me. I don't know,
I don't know. Seventeen minutes away from nine. You're on
News Talk ZBB.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
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Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
It is fourteen minutes away from nine News Talk ZBB.
Just the quick message to the backbenches, because I did
hear from a couple of MP's at the weekend, just
some murmurings that the backbenches are getting a little angsty
with Chris Luxen because of his performance, because they had
that polar and it was just one pole, but they
had that poll out that had them in the in
the twenties, albeit the high twenty twenty nine percent, and

(01:22:04):
Labor had crept ahead of them. I mean that is
one poll. Shoot, were a long way from an election.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Come on, give me a break exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
But just to the backbenches, can I just say it
would be the dumbest thing you could ever do to
try and bring down the leader of your party after
the time to do that was last year. In my mind,
you had a Christmas deadline. Should have done like Shipley
did with Bulger Nights out at Christmas. Get it over with,
start the year afresh. There's an election next year. The

(01:22:35):
economic indicators are on the up. You should just ride
this wave and hope that you squeeze yourselves back in
rather than worrying too much about your own seats. They're
getting a little more vocal I think about their displeasure
in Luxeon's approach to managing the party and the particularly

(01:22:56):
the parliamentary wing of the party. So that would be
my message to you, just tie you know, actually, what
is your endgame if you were to switch leaders right now?
Do you really think that the public wouldn't trust you?
Guys whoever the new leader might be to run the country.
You know, and your main argument, your main line of
attack against the opposition would be, well, look how chaotic

(01:23:17):
they are. Well, look how chaotic you would be, you know. Anyway,
let's talk about more important things. Hagis Scottish obviously feast
that I've actually tried a little bit just because of this,
the idea of it that didn't really suit me. But
what I didn't realize is that the original recipe, the
original hagisas has never been allowed into hasn't been allowed

(01:23:40):
to the United States for at least the last fifty
years because of the lung. The sheep's lung is banned.
You cannot import sheep's lung into the United States.

Speaker 12 (01:23:50):
Because tell me about it? Such a mission have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
You ever tried? Apparently, do you know? Just as a
by the bye Hagis their exports are a hudhundred and
thirty percent over the last couple of years. People are
loving it in places like in Asia and in Ghana
and all these weird places. Anyways, no problem getting the
sheeps lung into no problem, no problem getting the sheep sunging.
Apparently it fills with gross fluid and the killing process

(01:24:15):
and it's a bit of a health hazard, so the
FDA banned it. But the taste and that texture when
you get that fluid, get that in the oven. Anyway,
there is a company out of Edinburgh, Mcswing apparently in
Edinburgh has come up with a workaround to try and

(01:24:35):
get this recipe into the United States of America, and
they're hoping to do that by the end of the year.
We're the first time in fifty years that they'll see
Haggis there. There you go. Things you didn't know?

Speaker 12 (01:24:45):
What does grow in the sheep's lung or is that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Well, actually I don't know what they're doing with it, but.

Speaker 12 (01:24:50):
Apparently beyond beyond sheep's lung, presumably it won't be filled
with fluid impossible lung. Impossible lung. Here we go, just
gone eleven minute away from nine Trending next.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Ryan Bridge on the Mike Husking Breakfast with Bailey's Real
Estate news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
There'd be it is eight minutes away from nine News Talks.
They'd be don't forget the bigger inauguration happening tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Trending now with Chemist Warehouse stop paying too much.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
Of course, that means that Joe Biden's time in office
is about up, and he spoke at a Baptist church
in South Carolina. It was his final public event. We
are entirely sure why he had a public event, and
when he started talking, it became well even more unclear.

Speaker 19 (01:25:38):
I used to start off as a young kid getting
involved in the Civil ration my state Delaware. His great
shame was a was a anyway fighting the wrong side
of the world. My state was so greated by law.
My state Delaware was no different in terms of his
laws than South Carolina, you know, the southern state, and

(01:26:02):
like who to other states, just couldn't figure out how
to get and fight inside the South because it was
cut off the southern two parts of my state to
talk fun like y'all do down here, you know what
I mean. But all kids decide.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
What the thing is. I'm not laughing at him because
he's elderly. I'm laughing at him because he doesn't make sense.
My grandmother is far older than him and makes sense
every time I talk to it, perfect sense every time
I talk to it. Anyway. That was him reminiscing about
the Civil War, what about his childhood.

Speaker 19 (01:26:34):
Truth of the matter was that I'm a kid who
talk about impediments. I used to talk.

Speaker 15 (01:26:43):
Like that.

Speaker 19 (01:26:43):
I used to stutter. Came from came from a a
you know, came from Pas called Clemont, Delaware. A lot
of steel town or went bankrupt. Come from scrant Pennsylvania,
and things didn't work out so well because of the economy.
You know what, every time, every time I spend time

(01:27:05):
in the Black Church, I was told them to I
think the one thing the word hope.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
No, not a joe.

Speaker 12 (01:27:18):
It's not a joke.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
It's not a joke. I mean, yeah, yeah, they've dodged
a bullet, really, haven't they. And Donald Trump, they have
dodged a bullet well and truly and yeah, probably dodged
too actually with him and KRMLA Harris, I guess anyway,
Trump's inauguration will happen tomorrow morning from around six o'clock,
so we'll have some updates for you. It's going to
be outside. The last time it was outside was in

(01:27:41):
Reagan and Bush Senior were being inaugurated, and that was
back in nineteen eighty five. It was sub zero temperatures outside.
Apparently they were outside for about thirty five seconds for
a quick photo and then whip back inside because it
was absolutely frigid and freezing outside, which it will be apparently, sorry,
you don't know, they've changed it to indoors. Some of

(01:28:02):
what I'm saying is that it's going to happen indoors.
But the last time it happened indoors in nineteen eighty five,
they did go outside, but it was for like thirty seconds,
because that's how cold it is going to know.

Speaker 12 (01:28:12):
He popped outside today to lay a wreath, and by
that I mean he walked towards somebody who was holding
a wreath, who then had to walk backwards while truck
pretended to hold it to lay it. This was at
Arlington Cemetery. They came down some steps and there was
I presume some kind of return serviceman on crutches who

(01:28:32):
had to come all the way down the slippery steps.
It was raining and cold. Oh no, he laid the
wreath and then they had to go all the way
they got the steps again with this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
For guy, Yeah, he's been through war, he's battle hardened,
he's lost a limb potentially because of that. Hey, what
I find most interesting about the inauguration because it's largely ceremonial, right,
it's what everyone's wearing. What do we think Milaney is
going to wear? I think last time she was wearing
a white you know, one of those power suits that
she wears far better than Hillary Clinton did. I think
she'll be wearing one of them. I had one of.

Speaker 12 (01:29:03):
Those sort of it looks like a suit, but it
doesn't have any arms. It's just like goes oh, yeah,
you know, like she's one of the Imperial Guards and
Return of the Jedi. Almost like a skirt on the shoulders,
isn't it this? Because it's winter, it's a very It
went all the way down to the ground.

Speaker 11 (01:29:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:29:17):
I don't know how she's supposed to shake hands with
anybody and operate.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
How do you operate in something like that? I imagine
it's again largely ceremonial. Thank you very much for all
of your feedback this morning. It's been fantastic. We'll see
you tomorrow for Trump's inauguration called icin.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
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