Full Show Podcast: 22 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing real estate
differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been well.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Today Biden's gone moments ago. I will also our vote
was crash over the weekend. The crowd strike scenario wasn't
as big as the headline writers made it out to be.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Or not.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We've got more trouble on the infant formula market. Mahy
won tower on me despite the fact that no one's
turned up to vote. New report in the traffic cones
and how no one actually wants to fix any of it,
but the lads and the sports in the commentary box
of course, Richard Ardol's steat price they.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Roll on in as well, Posking, It's.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Morning Malcot of the week. How literally, just moments ago,
Biden's pulled the trigger. This is officially what he said
under the headline of Joseph R. Biden Junior. My fellow Americans,
over the past three and a half years, we have
made great progress as a nation. Today America has the
strongest economy in the world. We've made historic investments in
rebuilding our nation. In lowering prescription drug costs for seniors,
so he's campaigning till the end, and an expanding affordable

(00:58):
healthcare to a called number of Americans. We provide a
critically needed care to a million veterans exposed to toxic substances.
Past the first gun safety laws than thirty years, appointed
the first African American woman to the Supreme Court, and
past the most significant climate legislation in the history of
the world. America has never been better positioned to lead
than we are today. I know none of this could

(01:19):
have been done with you, the American people. Together, we
overcame a once in a century pandemic and the worst
economic crisis since the Great Depression. We protected and preserved
our democracy, and we've revitalized and strengthened our alliances around
the world. So politics over here's the real. But it
has been the greatest honor of my life to serve
as your president. And while it has been my intention

(01:41):
to seek reelection, I believe it isn't the best interest
of my party in the country for me to stand
down and to focus solely on fulfilling my duties as
president for the remainder of my term. I will speak
to the nation. This is the unfortunate part. I will
speak to the nation later this week in more detail
about my decision because he's got COVID and he's isolating
in Delaware, of course, so he's got to get back
to Washington. So the country's in abeyance until they wait

(02:04):
for him to get clearance to get back to Washington.
For now, let me express my deepest gratitude to all
those who've worked so hard to see me re elected.
I want to thank Vice President Carmela Harris for being
an extraordinary partner in all this work. There's no endorsement there.
And let me express my heartfelt appreciation to the American
people for the faith and trust you've placed in me.
I believe today what I always have. There is nothing

(02:25):
America can't do when we do it together. We have
just to remember we are the United States of America.
And it signed Joe Biden. Whether he personally signed it
or not, I wouldn't have a clue. It is nine
minutes past six.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
WI News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
All over that this morning. Obviously we haven't mentioned the war.
By the way, for a while. That Israel's having a
very bad weekend. The International Court, of course ruled against
them again and the who he came calling Sir Nitnya,
who had to do something about that.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
The port we attacked is not an innocent port.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
It was used for military purposes.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
It was used as an entry point for badly weapons
to the hooties by Iran.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
To the US race. Trump took as new make JD
for U splind the growing repids yesterday.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
And there's nothing radical about stopping.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
The poison in the games, in the criminals from.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
Taking care of our country.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
We're going to shut down that border travel on the
streets of Bangladesh after our Supreme Court ruling over government
job quotas.

Speaker 9 (03:20):
People are comparing it to nineteen sixty eight or the
independence movement. The kind of violence and the debts and
the injuries that have taken place. We are hearing reports
of over one hundred and thirty people that have lost
their life.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Then we come to Britain, where the new government is
hinting they may hand out above inflation paid rises to
the public sector, but not everyone got the meme.

Speaker 10 (03:42):
Our fiscal rules are non negotiable and so the response
will be within those parameters. But obviously the right way
to do it again. The proper way of doing this
is to look at the recommendations and to pay everybodies teachers.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Hope it's true.

Speaker 11 (03:55):
You have got an independent ifew buddy.

Speaker 12 (03:57):
Apparently it was ignored by the Alaska of the men.

Speaker 10 (04:00):
So we're really hoping that this government won't ignore what
they're being our guys to do.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Other bit of financial news is the fact the government
did this is Britain still is the highest its ever beaten,
which has led to claims the Tories were a bit
useless with the money. This story wasn't having that.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
What is absolute nonsense is this business of the worst.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Economic inheritance since the Second World War.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
I mean, you only need to look at the last
time a government changed hands between parties in twenty ten.
Compared to them, inflation is nearly half what it.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Was finally made. In Illinois, had been having a night
being a thinking about a bourglar. He thought a bourglar
was break into his house, so he grabbed his magnum,
because that's the sort of thing you keep fighting your
bedside in America, and he shot at this would be
burglar in his room. But all of this happened while
he was asleep. He was sleep shooting, and he only
woke up because the shot he fired went into his league.

(04:51):
Now the top that off, the Lake County State Attorney's
charging him with reckless discharge and using a gun without
a state mandated gun and unification gun. The world bad
nights in lighting. Yeah, what was amazing, interestingly enough, as
all of us just develops right in front of our
eyes this morning. There is a call on Friday between
Harrison's three hundred major Democratic donors, and the problem was

(05:13):
that many of them had gone there is no more
money as long as Biden stays in the race. So
Harris got on the phone, but the donors were left frustrated.
One donor declared ludicrous. One person on the call referred
to it as mismanaged and rushed. They added expectation it
hadn't been managed well. Some participants were admonished. Many donors

(05:33):
joined in, hoping to get an insiders view as to
what the hell was going on. They left the call
feeling disappointed and like they had not gained any new
insights or helpful information. It was quote unquote a total failure.
So it would appear, as we speak to you this
Monday morning, that the Democratic Party is in complete and
utter meltdown. One assumes Harris will be it. You will

(05:53):
note that there is no recommendation for Harris from Biden,
and that's significant. And you assume also when they go
to Chicqare it'll be an open contest, which is the
last thing they need. So it's trunks to lose, is
it not? But more throughout the morning thirteen past.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
The Mike Costing breakfast, steey.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
What he hasn't gone willingly? There's very goodiece in the
Sydney Morning here. All over the weekend, Biden fumes at
his beach house, resentful at Obama and those trying to
drive him out. It is well worth looking up and reading,
given what's just happened. Sixteen past six Well, I need
eleven funds management. Monday morning, Brecksmith, how are you good?

Speaker 13 (06:27):
Thanks?

Speaker 14 (06:27):
Mo?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Crowd CrowdStrike, how are they reputationally speaking?

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Not so good?

Speaker 15 (06:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (06:32):
The shares with down eleven percent on Friday, and you
can imagine the US is going to be some lawsuits
to come. So yeah, they're calling it the biggest IT
outage in history. I think it's probably pretty fair to say.
So everyone knows it's a bungled software update from crowd struggles.
There are Falcon products, so fear to say it crash
landed on Friday. Microsoft users were the main ones impacted,

(06:53):
and they say saying it affected around eight and a
half million Microsoft computers globally, which is about less than
one percentable Windows machines, but just shows you how widespread
the uses and particularly in critical services problems. Compounded it
by the fact that marcsabit Soft had their own issue
a few hours earlier, affecting their Azure devices. So we've

(07:14):
all had problems with software updates and the light might
but yeah, certainly there was a quite a few having
that blue screen of death. We got away fairly lucky.
New Zeander did happen Friday night. Some card systems were down,
and of course, you know, unpicked the travelers coming back
from school holidays, and it seems actually globally and I
picked it up to five percent of flights. Yeah, the
reaction from CrowdStrike was all pretty curious.

Speaker 16 (07:37):
You know.

Speaker 13 (07:37):
We got the CEO George Kurtz in the end saying that, yeah,
just offended Windows, not much to worry about, and the
updated being rolled back. But yeah, it just highlights a
few things, doesn't it how vulnerable, how aligned we've become
on big tech, how important cybersecurity is, how intrinsic is
to our key systems. It's also about the race I
suppose of these films to stay on top of evolving threats,

(07:59):
so you'll see what the impact is. You know, there's
obviously the global supply chain and pecks as well, particularly
for air freight, so we may see a few delays
and packages and the like this week. But yeah, not
a great time for crowdlat or pretty ironic given the
guy started the company because he was frustrated with events
and issues at macfie.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
So go back to Friday, Netflix came and I have
been surprised at how many people are prepared to pay
money to watch ads on a streaming service and yet
it's working for them.

Speaker 14 (08:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (08:26):
Absolutely, so that in the crackdown on password sharing. So
if you look at the ad side, they missed forty
million monthly active users in the coordinate was up thirty
four percent on a year ago, and they're saying it's
a canon for nearly forty five percent of all sellnups,
And I guess that's probably a function of the cost
of living pressures as well. So you look at the
top line revenues and Netflix, We're up seventeen percent nine

(08:48):
point five six billion. They reckon four year revenue growth
is going to be fourteen to fifteen percent, so that
was an upgrade bottom line. Then in comes two point
one five billions. That was up fourteen percent, so forty
four percent were saying on a year ago. They added
eight million subscribers during the quarter. They're taking tital subscribers
to seventy eight million. That was versus two seventy four

(09:08):
million expected. So yeah, shows like Bridgeton and so on
are going pretty well.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
She is Mike actually down on.

Speaker 13 (09:14):
Friday one and a half percent, but they have had
a big run still up over thirty five percent. Of
other day in vesteras are wondering what the next big
revenue drivers. It's actually quite funny you look back at things.
Netflix used to say their biggest competition was people sleeping,
but now obviously has a lot of competition to deal with.
But they're getting into new things, including live sports and
actually showing two NFL games on Christmas Day, so they

(09:35):
might beginning and you leave years and also whether people
will be tuning in to have the escapism the company
offers from the US election, Obviously there's a bit more
drum and then they're.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Like, I ain't that the truth? What are the numbers? Okay?

Speaker 13 (09:46):
So but to doubt that was down point nine percent,
forty two eight seven s and P five and up
down point seven percent as well, five five oh five,
na's deck down point eight percent, said footsy one hundred.
That was down point six percent, Nickel down point two percent,
A six two hundred and down point eight percent. Indeed,
X fifty we got away pretty well as all. Actually
we were flat there, twelve three to two five. Gold

(10:07):
was flat twenty four and fifty nine and ounce oil
eighty three spot fifty up to sixty three cents. Currency
markets quirios low across the board, sixty one point one
against the US, eighty nine point eight nine against the
eight dollar, forty six point five against steerling. This week
might obviously be going to see what un folds with
Biden's announcement.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
But we've also got used.

Speaker 13 (10:25):
GDP durable Goods've got the Bank of Canada they're probably
going to go again. Unemployments up over six percent. There,
we've got locally trade data, and we've got some consumed
confidence prints as well and results in the US, we've
got a couple of the Magnificent seven, we've got Alphabet
Tesser and we've got old fashion names Coca Cola and
Visa reporting fantastic.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Go well, make catchup. So in Greg Smith, Devon Funds Managements.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Giggs, I wish we.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Had a bit a bit of Florence Nightingale's hair has
gone to auction over the weekend fetch three and a
half thousand pounds, so about seven thousand New Zealand dollars verified,
So it was all official. They thought it would be
two to three thousand sold alongside his signature tenants auctioneers.
It was in the possession of descendants, bought by a
private UK buyer. I was, you know, here's a bit

(11:10):
different from you and it's not like a car or
former house.

Speaker 17 (11:14):
Yeah, but you could you clone another Florence Nightingale out
of it?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Freaky Sex twenty one here at Newstalk z B.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Maybe you, says the bottle, Maybe the Mike Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
So it seems Biden is has and will endorse Harris.
My very first decision he's just tweeted or ext My
very first decision as the party nomine in twenty twenty
was to pick Karmala Harris as my vice president. It's
been the best decision I've made today. I want to
offer my full support and endorsement for Karmela to be
the nominee of our party this year. Democrats, it is
time to come together and beat Trump. Let's do this.

(11:50):
Names you want to think about for Harris as a
running mate, Andy Basher, Roy Cooper, Josh Shapiro, may or
may not mean anything to you. The two main names
I'll come to an There's a personal JB. Pritzkik. Could
you have a JB in a JD? Would that be
unheard of before? Gretchen Whitmer, who my wife told me
over several meals this weekend that when Biden was going,

(12:11):
Whittmer's the one double woman create history. Gavin Newsom as
the other one. Where the Newsom would want to be
a VP as opposed to a candidate. A VP candidate
as opposed to the candidate is highly debatable. So I would,
in these early open a book, in these early hours
of Monday morning, call Harris and Whitman Yeah.

Speaker 17 (12:31):
The cool thing about Whitmer Tour is that then you've
got somebody who's survived a kidnapping attempt versus somebody who's
arvived in an assassination attempts.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Can't, as I keep saying, you can't write the stuff.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
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Speaker 2 (12:47):
Right, this was of course the premient show for National
Anthem Reviews, so you know what's coming next. So for me,
I was in the supermarket car park waiting for Katie
to grab one last item on the way back to
town on what would be indeed her third trip to
the supermarket that day. But that's another story. Radio is on.
I'm in the car with the dog, radios on. I'm
readying myself for Elliott's excellent call. But first, this all.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
Too O.

Speaker 18 (13:18):
Is what.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Dog looks around at me, and as this is Kirrie
soprano Marla Kavana. She's based in l A and doesn't
do the high notes. Gee, you know the other version

(13:42):
to the other Versionill get me, Betty, I nearly first
one was her best effort, So strive to be fair
to me, car pariesses here it comes.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Good newsy.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Crowd, very nice, very polite. It was no Ingrid Andress,
to be fair. But then again it wasn't but Shellie either,
was it. So that was san Diego didn't sell it
out in the end either. I saw him. By the
time I got home and watched the rest of it
on television, I saw quite a few empty seats and
all that. I'm just not sure it was an exercise
what we achieved there, and it wasn't even that good
a game, to be frank, We'll do more sport after
eight o'clock this morning. We do have problems in the

(14:43):
baby formula department, so we'll have a look at that
right after the news And then of course Richard Arnold
at the very latest Art of the States Meantime news
is next to her news Talks, Edward.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
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Speaker 2 (15:02):
He'd been quite quite a bit of information to impart
to you. Gavin Newsome spoken, Chuck Schumer's spoken, while they've tweeted,
and Whitma has tweeted as well. They all say essentially
the same thing. He's a cool guy. He's probably the
greatest president in history, and we thank him very much
for his service to the country. Whitmer's the most colorful.
My job in this election will remain the same, doing

(15:22):
everything I can to elect Democrats and stop Donald Trump,
a convicted felon who's agenda of raising families costs, banning
abortion nationwide, and abusing the power of the White House
to settle his own schools is completely wrong for Michigan.
So the rest of them, we're just focusing mainly on Joe.
Here's how this thing unfolds. You would think the endorsement
of Harris means Harris will be the nominee, according to
Frank Luntz, who's probably the most famed pulster going not so.

Speaker 16 (15:46):
Now.

Speaker 19 (15:47):
I recognize that this is chaotic, that we've never had
this happen before, that there is no process right now,
But I can also tell you that I've spoken to
three potential Democratic candidates in varying degree is of making
the decision whether or not to challenge for this, and
the consensus is that the Democratic Party in general and

(16:09):
Vice President Harrison particular, would get hurt with a coronation.
That is better for her to earn it through debates,
through conversations, and through a convention than it is for
them to just bestow the nomination on her.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
So not so easy. So typically what happens at the convention,
which is in Chicago in a couple of weeks, they
choose the winner of the primaries. The winner of the
primaries is, of course Biden. Biden's now gone, so once
that candidate's gone, all the delegates become what they call
free agents. There are two types of delegates, pledged delegates
and super delegates. The pledged delegates to commit to supporting
the candidate that the state voters choose. They can't do

(16:47):
that now because the candidate the state voters choose is gone,
So there's a good conscience clause. They generally go with
what the party wants. Super delegates are a gay and
to themselves, but they're made up of people like former
press residents, vice president's, Democratic governors, all that sort of stuff,
so they'll total line. So you go to what they
call an open convention if there's no nominee. If there

(17:07):
is a nominee, if Harris stitches this up and goes
in as nominee. Basically they do the vote and that's
the end of that. If there's no nominee, it's an
open convention. So then you have a ballot. You either
get a majority or no majority. If you don't get
a majority, have a second ballot majority or no majority.
We don't have a majority, you go for subsequent ballots
until basically it's all over. So if they go into
this with a number of people on the ticket, it

(17:30):
could take a while. Either way, it's a complete and
utter shambles. Twenty one to seven now might have a
little bit of trouble and more from Richard Hale, by
the way, on all of this in the moment might
have a little bit of trouble and dairy back home.
This week, food ministers here and in Australia are discussing
the label or labeling of infant formula products. Food Standards

(17:50):
Australian and New Zealand basically wants to change the way
they package up these products make them less glamorized. This
has led to Denome, one of the big producers, suggesting
the the world as n I think they're overrigging it
a bit. But the Infant Nutrition Council Chief Executive Jonathan
Chew is with us on this Jonathan Morning to you.
Good morning Marke So one I won this forming. Can

(18:11):
the Food Standards Council make rules that have to be
adhered to?

Speaker 14 (18:17):
Absolutely? They've got power to make rules around composition, labeling
and the way you sell paructs, and that includes infant formula.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So do they have the power to say this is
what a can of infant formula will look like, what's
contained on that label, and that is the end of
that simple as that.

Speaker 14 (18:35):
That's right. They've got power under the Food Treaty between
Australia and New Zealand to set the regulation around how
parks are labeled under the Food Standards Code.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Do they want to plane package this stuff or not?

Speaker 14 (18:49):
I've heard people call it plane packaging. What they want
to do is remove a lot of information that's currently
on the label, particularly around the ingredients for a formula.
Why because some people believe in order to protect breastfeeding,
you have to make infant formula as unattractives and as

(19:12):
unappealing as possible, and that includes removing ingredients that might
be valued by the parents of formula fed children.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Can you have a cute baby photo on them.

Speaker 14 (19:26):
No, what they're trying to do is take away anything
that makes infant formula appealing. Many of these ideas are understandable,
but when it comes to ingredient labeling, this would be
the first time any comparable country in the world has
gone this far in removing that type of information.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
So it's only us. So we go into China, there's
a shelf full of good looking product apart from ours
at the end, which looks brown and boring. And that's
the problem, right, that's the problem.

Speaker 14 (19:56):
If you're a Chinese consumer and you've got pract from
say Europe, which talks about their ingredients, their high quality ingredients,
and you compare that to a product from New Zealand
which can't talk about these ingredients, it's obvious that the
Chinese are going to be more attracted to the European paructs.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
This politics gone nuts.

Speaker 14 (20:17):
I think it has gone a step too far. You
can protect and promote breastfeeding without creating infant formula packaging,
which just causes confusion and chaos for parents who need
to use formula here in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Would you have faith Andrew Hoggart's a man in that
particular part of the world. Would you have faith that
he would because he's a farmer, of course, would you
have faith that they will be standing up for a
bit of common sense or all we in trouble here.

Speaker 14 (20:43):
I think Minister Hoggart understands the scope of the problem
and we just need to implore him to stand up
to the Australian ministers who don't seem to care so
much about the problem and say this is why it's
an issue for the New Zealand consumer, for the New
Zealand industry, and that Zand has to review this of

(21:05):
the proposal.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah all right, well I'm staying touch out, Jonathan. Appreciate
you time very much, So we'll talk with Luxon about
that tomorrow when he returns from holiday. Because the last
thing we need to be doing at the moment, economically speaking,
is shooting ourselves on the foot. Right, Let's get to
Richard seventeen too, the Mike hosting breakfast. Donald Trump has
learned his lesson and become very humble. If you saw
a speech in our thirty to God, I regret that anyway,

(21:27):
Crooked Joe Biden is just exed out. Crooked Joe Biden
was not fit to run for president and is certainly
not fit to serve and never was exclamation mark. He
only attained the position of president by li's fake news
and not leaving his basement. All those around him, including
his doctor in the media, knew that he wasn't capable
of being president, and he wasn't. And now look what
he's done to the country.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
And so it goes fourteen to two International correspondence with
ends an eye insurance peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Well, Fads night morning, didn't want to make good way
to start the week.

Speaker 20 (22:00):
Stunning We anticipated this. Still it is a stunner uncharted territory,
as you've been outlining what a political season this has
turned out to be. After days and days, what almost
three weeks of Joe Biden insisting he would never quit
his re election bid, he does so in this one
page letter, written while he has retreated at his beach
house in Delaware, where he is also because recovering from
his latest bout with COVID. He writes it is in

(22:22):
the best interests of his Democratic Party and the country
that he stands down. Biden says he will address the
nation and the world later this week and that he
will quote focus on fulfilling his duties as president for
the rest of his term in quote, so not quitting
the presidency at the minute, even as some Trump Republicans
have been calling on him to do so. This announcement

(22:43):
by President Biden comes following all this period when his
administration of the entire Democratic Party was basically twisting in
the wind, and ends one crisis for the party, but
as you indicate, opens up another. He has endorsed his
VP come of Harris. But will that stand? Harris has
access in Biden Harris campaign cash. I would say, no, no, no,
there should be this open primary.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
How would that happen?

Speaker 20 (23:06):
You've been talking about some of the convention processes. No
US political convention has gone past the first ballot since well,
not in my lifetime. I think it was nineteen fifty
two the last time. How will this play out among
other potential Democratic hopes as the national reputation to put
together a campaign being limited, or is there a whole

(23:29):
host of people you mention folks like Andy Bisher, Gavin Newsom,
Gritch and Whittner all of these possibilities. But the clock
is certainly ticking. We have never seen a US President,
sitting US president, quitting a reelection race so late in
the political season. Republicans already because had their convention. The
Democrat gathering is set for Chicago in just a few weeks,
just undred a months, it is. As for what was

(23:51):
going into Biden's decision, there is this from famed reporter
called Bernstein of Watergate, Woodward and Bernstein fame, who has
sources in the Biden camp. Here's what he said, Biden,
just prior to his announcement.

Speaker 12 (24:02):
President is angry.

Speaker 18 (24:04):
He feels abandoned. The word abandon was used several times
in discussions I've had with people in the White House.
The people that he has supported through his political career
and helped advance through the ladder of leadership in Washington
have now turned their back on him, in his view,
and in a really ugly way.

Speaker 20 (24:24):
So something of the inside view, however, the Yanks was
building elsewhere. You poll out today, just prior to the
Biden announcement showed sixty one percent of Democrats thought Biden
should quit the race. Joining them earlier today was Senator
Joe Manchin, an independent who caucuses with the Dems and
has known Biden well for decades. Really, he joined those
calling for Biden to withdraw and save his reputation.

Speaker 16 (24:46):
The time has come for him to pass the torch
to new generation.

Speaker 20 (24:49):
Past the torch while you still have the party's respect,
is what Manchin was saying.

Speaker 15 (24:54):
He can finish this job that he started and finished
the where he wanted to lead.

Speaker 20 (24:59):
So does he have the wear with all to do so? Sure,
says Mansion. Political campaigns are a kicker. When you take
that out of the equation, it's a different thing. But
when you're president of doing this campaign at the same time,
it is excruciating. Israel's PM Netanyahu is Stewart Washington tomorrow.
There's timing for you at a point when all this
is swirling. This is going to be one of the
most volatile, unpredictable, extraordinary political campaign finales we have seen.

(25:22):
It's already that I'm taking a breather for a few days.
Back in time for the convention fights. Trump has taken
off his bandage and is playing the hero role at
his first post convention rally, saying he quote took a
bullet for democracy. They are also selling t shirts with
the photo of the bloody deer and the fist in
the air and all that stuff. Meantime, he is turning

(25:42):
his attacks onto Vice President Harris Kamala.

Speaker 15 (25:45):
I call her laugh and Kamala, ever watch your laugh.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
She's crazy.

Speaker 20 (25:49):
So she's nuts, he said later, So it begins.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
All right, might go. Well, we'll see in a couple
of weeks. Appreciate it very much, Richard Arnold, state side,
just if you didn't see it in Tragic's Like Me
and Now thirty two. The thing that was disappointing about
Trump on Friday was not the fact that he played
to himself as usual, but the fact he claimed to
be a different person and a change person, and you
were going to hear a different message. And for about

(26:12):
three and a half minutes at the start, and they
wheeled out the dead man's hat in his uniform, and
he went over and kissed it, and you thought, right,
we might be onto something. And then that, basically for
the next hour and twenty was it, as he returned
to everything he always was. So But having said all
of that, the way this is unfolded this morning, he
probably doesn't care because I'm sure they feel their home free.

(26:32):
Nine away from.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Seven Mile Breakfast with Jaguar.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
An unfair question six away from seven now. Matthew Litman
used to be a speech writer for Biden, but the
question was whether he wrote this thing himself or not.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
It says all.

Speaker 21 (26:46):
You know, there was a when I started with him,
and this is a long time ago, there was a
group of people around him when there was a big
speech who would have to read anything that I wrote.
And he would use sometimes one or two sentences of
something that somebody wrote for him. You know, you can't
compete with's somebody who's been at this for that long,
Who's that smart, who knows all these people around the world.
It's a difficult job. I lasted a long time, but

(27:07):
he fires lot speech writers because he knows so much
more than them.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
It's all him when something like this comes out.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
George Conway, Kelly AND's husband, Joe Biden's a patriot. He
has selflessly served as nation with distinction for half a century,
step forward to save it. In twenty twenty, we Americans
again owe him our deepest thanks and respect for putting
the country above all else. Once again, thank you, mister President.
The ironing of that marriage as Kelly and Conway hang
out with Trump, of course, and George was famously pro
Democrat Buddhadice. Joe Biden has earned his place among the

(27:35):
best and most consequential presidents in American history. I am
so proud to serve under his leadership and thankful for
his unwavering focus on what is best for our country.
One of the most consequential presidents in American history. He's
barely going to complete one term. You don't get to
be that consequential if you don't go eight or two terms.
Five away from seven.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Well, the ins and the ouse, it's the bizz with
business timer. Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Look from I told you so file hotel business. This
is the tourism thing have been banging on about. We're
not doing well for tourism in this country. It's reflected
in hotels. New data this morning for June revenue per
available rumors dropped to one hundred and eleven dollars. That's
down eleven and a half percent on last year. Occupancies
fall into fifty eight percent, lowest level since July of

(28:25):
twenty two. Upside, good time to get a bargain. I
guess average daily right around the country down five point
six percent year on year. That's down to one hundred
and ninety two dollars. Queenstown still the highest place two
forty four Auckland down to one hundred and eighty five.
Domestic travels the problem. There's been an eleven percent decline
in rooms occupied by US, which is significant because we

(28:47):
usually account for about seventy five percent of all hotel
occupy occupancies at this particular time of year. And the
fall here's the further bad news, the fall and domestic
nights has not been made up for by the internationals.
The internationals non New Zealand arrivals have only increased by
two percent. It's at eighty eight percent of pre COVID levels.
Arrivals from China's eighty six percent, Australia ninety percent, so
the Autralians are saving US. Has been a seventeen percent

(29:09):
increase in rooms occupied by internationals, with over a third
of all taken up by the Chinese. So the Chinese,
you know, flowly but surely they're coming back to the country.
But you know, by the time you look at the
overall tourism numbers, by the time you look at the
revenue for hotels, they're bleeding. I mean a little bit
of it in the place like Auckland, is demand and
supply are the supply numbers gone up in terms of
rooms available, so you're always going to get a bit

(29:31):
of a hit. But you know, the numbers just don't lie.
We are just not doing tourism the way we should
be and the way we once did. Jeff Mason as
the White House correspondent for Reuter's Boy, What a Morning?
More after the news, which.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Is next, the newsmakers and the personalities the big names
talk to, like casting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate doing
real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news tog said, been.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Seven past seven. So Biden has gone came from nowhere,
not nowhere, nowhere, but today no one expected it. I
don't think Jeff Mason is the White House correspondent for
right as he's in Delaware and is with us morning
And to you, if I asked you twenty four hours ago,
would this unfold as it's unfolded in the last couple
of hours, you would have told me what.

Speaker 12 (30:18):
I probably would have told you. I don't know, although
I also probably would have told you.

Speaker 8 (30:22):
I wouldn't have expected something to happen on Sunday, and
it has there's been a wave of calls from Democratic lawmakers, donors,
others for President Biden.

Speaker 12 (30:36):
To step down. Last week I reported on Thursday, I
believe that he was soul searching and thinking about it,
taking it seriously. On Friday, his campaign chare came out
on television and said he was still in and committed
as ever. And so it felt like Friday Saturday like
he was committed to staying in. And then today he

(30:59):
released his letter that he's stepping aside. So it's both
a surprise and not a surprise. It's just been really
hard to predict because he has part of the time
really dug in and part of the time showed a
willingness to listen to what people were telling him.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
When does he get back to Washington's speak to the
country and is there a vacuum in the ensuing dies?

Speaker 12 (31:20):
Oh, I don't think there's a vacuum. Keep in mind,
he's not stepping down from the presidency. He's just stepping
down from the candidacy for re election. They haven't said
when he's returning to Washington. He's still convalescing from COVID
nineteen here in Delaware where I am now as well,
and They haven't given us a clear heads up on
when he's going to return, but I would expect it

(31:42):
to be earli or midweek of this week.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Will this be an open convention or will they look
to stitch Harris up by the time they get there.

Speaker 12 (31:50):
Those are questions that are still being answered, and there
are people who believe in both possibilities. Certainly there would
they'll have to go through the convention process either way.
The question is whether or not she'll have any rivals
and whether anyone stands up against her and gets enough
delegates to vote for them to be a reasonable competitor

(32:15):
right now, certainly, having President Biden's endorsement, which she has,
is a huge feather in her cap, as it were.
And she has, of course also the campaign infrastructure that
they built together, although there's some questions about how that
will be transferred now, but that's something that we'll be
watching and reporting on in the coming day.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Just what I was about to ask, what happens to
the money?

Speaker 12 (32:36):
Yeah, Well, the wisdom at the beginning of all of
this that we got was that the money at least
that's been raised for the campaign, not for the Democratic
Party but large would be hers to keep. But then
I also heard last week from a donor source that
that money could all be transferred to the Democratic Party

(32:56):
and then it would be available to whichever candidate ends up.
So I think there are still some question marks around it.
The one thing there's not a question mark around is
that she is the front runner, and she's been the
front runner even before President Biden endorsed her today and
before he made his final decision to step aside. But
that doesn't mean everyone in the party is happy about

(33:18):
her being at the top of the ticket. And I
wrote a story about that today actually before President Biden's announcement,
that there are some who are big proponents of Vice
President Harris, and there are some who are still very
worried that she would not be able to beat Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
So a two part question then Harris v. Trump can
she win? Or two anyone v. Trump? Can they win?

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Well?

Speaker 12 (33:41):
Certainly Democrats believe that they can beat Trump, for sure,
but the last three weeks have not been helpful to
that cause, and not just because of the President taking
this much time to make his decision, but also because
of the back and forth within the party and the
lack of unity in the party. Compared to what seems
like a pretty unified front on the Republican side, certainly

(34:04):
at the Republican convention where President former President Trump accepted
the Republican nomination. But it can either side still win. Absolutely.
Trump is doing better in the polls, but it is
as it doesn't. It feels like we're close to the election,
and we are. November is not that far away, but
it's not next week, and so both sides have time

(34:27):
to build up support, to raise money, and to to
work on their get out the vote efforts before the election.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
If you go back to Butler, fast forward to this morning,
can you believe this?

Speaker 12 (34:39):
I mean no, It has been one of the most
unbelievable news weeks in my career as a reporter. So
it's sort of head spinning, I think for the public
as well. Fascinating and we'll see what the next that is, yeh.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Some day JEP appreciated White House correspondent for Roy jif
Maisen out of Delaware this morning to it's past seven,
talking point in the last forty eight hours or so,
there's crash one for the headline writers. Wasn't it the
largest outage in history? And then again, it's not like
computer updates go back to the eighteen thirty so that
much history at all, the blue screen of Death and
a lot of people delayed at airports and supermarkets. Microsoft's

(35:16):
former national tech officer now independent tech expert Russell Craig's
with us on this. Russell, very good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Hi, Mike, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
And you couldn't work it out? When I read eight
and a half million Microsoft units on Saturday morning, I thought, geez,
that's a lot of units. But I thought that was
eight and a half million in New Zealand, not the
entire world. So was this a big deal or not?

Speaker 5 (35:36):
It was a huge deal, Mike. Although eight and a
half million Windows devices at least some one percent of
all the devices running Windows in the world.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Are CrowdStrike any good or are they famous for this stuff?

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Look, crowd Striker an exceptionally strong organization and generally do
a tremendous job. In this case, obviously they've let themselves down,
They've let the customers down, let the world down, and
I'm sure that's causing a lot of angst in the boardroom.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Somebody said, you never do an update on a Friday?
Is that reasonable?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Any day of the week, you know you've got some
risk and rolling out a software update on the scale
MIC So.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
What do we know about these sort of things When
a company goes to put an update out the size,
do they know what's going to happen or do they
just think they know what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Ultimately, you cannot be one hundred percent assured that nothing.

Speaker 22 (36:30):
Wrong or bad is going to happen when you roll
out these type.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
Of updates, particularly if you're in the business that cloud
strikers in where they're having to roll their updates really
fast to respond to cybersecurity threats and vulnerabilities, which, as
you know, move very fast. So they do their best
with testing, but you cannot get one hundred percent confidence.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Are we too reliant on big players? Hence when a
big player goes down, so many people go down. Is
there enough comp in the market and you know, enough
companies doing and we could all go and spread out
risk more thinly?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't think that's the case. Yes, we're hugely reliant
upon big players, but they bring us a lot of
benefits as well. I don't think. Although it's appealing to
think if we had more smaller players we'd have more
diversity and less risk, but I don't know whether that
stacks up to really hard analysis.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Appreciate your time, Russell Russell Craig, who's an independent IT
expert these days, I work you through a few of
the numbers. Who got hit, who didn't. China got away
with it largely, Australias seemed to be hit poorly. We
seemed by and large to be okay. But more late
a fourteen past the my host Rekist Mahi dryves El
Winner and towern are after seven thirty seventeen past seven
wars back front and center this morning as well, Israel

(37:43):
went after yem and over the weekend with an attack
on the port. It was a response to the Hooty
drone attack which killed one person in Tel Aviv. The
international geopolitical analyst Jeffrey Miller's back. Well, there's Jeffrey. Morning
to you.

Speaker 23 (37:53):
Good morning mane.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Given what's happened in the last couple of hours, does
the war change from America's point of view, whether it's
Harris or Biden or.

Speaker 23 (37:59):
Try Well, I think Benjamin Nahanna, who's really going to
be digging his heels and he's scheduled to meet Joe
Biden in the US this week. We don't know whether
that will still happen. It may well do, but Beniama
ninanjaw I should say it's got every incentive to just
sit this out and wait for the US election, because
the's every chance that Donald Trump will be in the
White House and Donald Trump is very much going to

(38:22):
be backing Israel to the hilt on this. So if
menimn Nha, who can get through the next six months,
things are going to be looking.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Better for him back here.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And now, does Israel have the resource to continually go
after Hamas and the Hootie and if it explodes, why
to take that on as well?

Speaker 23 (38:38):
Well, that's a big question because it could not be
just a two front war fighting Hamas in the south
but his Belah in the north. With these constant attacks
going on from the south Lebanon into northern Israel. But
now exactly the drone attack from the Hooties shows you
that Yemen is very much going to be involved. And
we shouldn't forget Iran. Remember back in April we had

(38:59):
that direct exchange of rockets and missiles between Iran and Israel.
So everything's on the table here. And it really is
a powder keg. This really could turn into a wide
original war in New Zealand is absolutely going to be
involved in that. If that happens. We've already got skin
in the game. They were already New Zealand troops in
the Middle East, particularly involved with Yemen, So you know

(39:20):
it could go from bads to much much worse.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Is nitnya huok domestically given the war cabinets falling apart,
and this has got to be wearing on pretty much
everyone in the area, doesn't it.

Speaker 23 (39:29):
Well, Netano, he's got through this far. No one thought
that he'd probably last as long as he has. He's
got through victually. The Kinessea session ends at the end
of the week. If he gets through to then, I
think he's got just every incentive just to wait it out.
And I think it's coalitional. We're backing and they'll be
seeing the poles in the United States that show Trump
victory more likely than ever. I mean, we wait and

(39:50):
see what the first polls show was Kamala Harris presumably
now than Democratic nominee. But there's every chance that Donald
Trump and Jade Vance will be in the White House
come January and while there are isolationists in some respects
not isolation as when it comes to supporting Israel, they'll
be backing there.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
In Yahoo to the health only got fifteen seconds. That
court ruling over the weekend, I'm assuming means nothing.

Speaker 23 (40:10):
It's symbolic. It's symbolic. No, you won't solve this Australia
Palestinian crisis through the courts. There's going to be a
political solution in the end, but it's highly symbolic.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Good stuff, Jeffery, Nice to talk to you. Jeffrey Miller,
international geopolitical analyst, Right Twonga, What are shambles? What's the
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(41:23):
dieconomy of local government. It's on display right here, right now.
Seemingly no one wants to address it. The turnout in Taronga,
what a joke. It was pathetic thirty one percent. Latest
example of us not giving a monkey's is Toweronger, no democracy.
Because the last lot was so hopeless, they got replaced
by commissioners. And yet, when given the freedom to choose,

(41:43):
the real winner is complacency. And yet the biggest issue
in our economy at the moment and our battle with inflation,
is what local councils. It is also insurance of course,
but rates play an outsize role, and why this non
tradeable inflation were grappling with a stuck at five point
four percent. Tradeable inflation's virtually non existent. But still we
aren't cutting interest rates. We still aren't breathing life into

(42:03):
the economy. We're still living through recessionary type misery. Why
because people like councils are handing out rate rises that
have offered up by literally anyone else. They would never
see the light of day because they would be out
of business. So you see the connection. They're aren't smartness,
They know they can do whatever they like. Thirty percent
in some cases, in some areas you're talking about one

(42:25):
hundred percent are doubling. Now do we like it?

Speaker 11 (42:28):
No, we do not.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
We gnash our teeth and we moan and winging complain,
and yet what they have worked out is that they've
got little of anything to fear because no one's going
to do anything about it. You want proof, look at Towonga,
I mean, look at any local body. Election turnouts less
than half, sometimes less than a third. We literally don't care.
It was almost tragic last week when once again the
Finance Minister asked, pleaded, really pleaded with councils to do

(42:52):
their bit and contain their inflationary ways. Will they, of
course not. Why would they. They've got us by the
balls because we're lazy and complacent. The governmentor done their
bit on spending. We're doing our bit by bleeding counsels.

Speaker 14 (43:03):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
They claim a million different reasons for their actions, and
to be fair, some of it. I've got a bit
of sympathy with under investment. Yes it's a real issue.
But what they've done is sees the moment they've played
on our weakness. They've jumped on the inflationary bandwagon and
charged the Bejesus out of us, and because we're slack,
they win. Asking from the Clintons, mister and missus, President

(43:24):
Biden has captor his extraordinary career of service with a
presidency that has lifted America out of an unprecedented pandemic,
created millions of new jobs, rebuilt about it economy, strengthened
our democracy, and restored our standing in the world. By
any measure, he has advanced our founders, charged to build
a more perfect union, and to his own stated goal
of restoring the soul of our nation. That is, in

(43:47):
part what the Clinton's had to say. Mike, I think
Joe's press secretary is the most relief. Kevin, You're probably right,
Miss Jean Pierre. Care Jean Pierre, you called the Biden
next last week. Yeah, it looked to be, frank a
lot of us did. It wasn't particularly hard. The fact
that came this morning wasn't expected, But the fact he
was going to go surely was. I mean, the money
you'd run out when Obama's calling you, you know it's over.

(44:11):
So Trump again TBF. To be fair, although he's a
corrupt prick, he didn't do too much damage last time.
Very good, Chris, Thank you for that much. Mike. Keep
on banging on about tourism. Getting that obseas students back
to or above pre COVID levels would be a game changer.
Need to get the key people and these industries engaged
in enthuseda I couldn't agree more. It's why I keep
going on about it. I mean there's a couple of
clear things. Dairy you can't do a lot about because

(44:34):
it's international demand in terms of what you're selling for
and the price you're selling it for. But the nation
as a branded product you can and tourists aren't coming
and students aren't coming, and you look across the Tasman
the students are flooding the place so much so it's
becoming to get a problem. You look at tourism around
the world. There's squirting people in restaurants in Barcelona because
they've got too many tourists. The meantime, we sit here

(44:56):
all why in misery and not getting the money we wance?
Did we need to do something about it? For goodness sake?
Right back to Tawonga in the moment, we will talk
with the new mayor.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
The Breakfast show you Can Trust, the mic Hosking Breakfast
with Jaguar, the Art of Performance news Tog said, b.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
I don't know which one to start with first, Pelosi
probably President Joe Biden's a patriarch. There's such suck ups
in the party, aren't they. They knife the guy and
then the moment he's knifed and he can't get back
up because the blood's all over the floor, they're putting
out Yeah, oh, very lovely. President Joe Biden's a patriotic
American who has always put our country first as legacy
of vision, values and leadership, making one of the most

(45:36):
consequential presidents in American history.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
What crap?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Hertzog, the President of israel I, want to extend my
heartfelt thanks to Joe Biden for his friendship insteadfast support
for the Israeli people. Abras decades long career as the
first US president to visit Israel in wartime, as a
recipient of the Israeli Presidential Medal of Honor, and as
a true ally of the Jewish people, he is a
symbol of the unbreakable bond between our two people. I
send him, Jill and all his family my warmest wishes,

(46:04):
and that's it. Sort of like Christmas card Tusk, who
was with the EU these days as Prime Minister of Poland.
Dear President Joe Biden, you've taken many difficult decisions, thanks
to which Poland, America and the world are safer and
democracy stronger. I know you were driven by the same
motivations when announcing your final decision, probably the most difficult
one in your life. But i'mdwhelming, isn't it. Here's where

(46:27):
it gets really political. To Speaker Mike Johnson, at this
unprecedented juncture in American history, we must be clear about
what just happened. The Democrat Party forced the Democrat nominee
of the ballot off the ballot just over one hundred
days before the election, having invalidated the votes of more
than fourteen million Americans who selected Joe Biden to be
the Democratic nominee for president. The self proclaimed Party of

(46:47):
Democracy has proven exactly the opposite. If Joe Biden's not
fit to run for president, he's not fit to serve
as president. He must resign the office immediately. November five
cannot arrive soon enough, and so it began eight and
having a time to get to the F one this morning,
probably the greatest race of the year and quite possibly

(47:10):
by so far it doesn't matter, so we'll do the
lads and the commentary box after eight. Actually, speaking of
what Marhu Drysdales answered the question of what you do
post a high level sports careerdalesque a race. Yes, he
won the tower and a race over the weekend. Looks

(47:31):
like he beat the silver medalist by six thousand votes.
In Marhu Drysdales with us Mahi, morning to you, Good
morning Mike, and congratulations to you six thousand votes. Are
you proof positive that if you're a moderately well known
New Zealander. You can pretty much be a mirror of
any town you want.

Speaker 24 (47:47):
I wouldn't say that. I think they they you know,
the people aren't. Aren'twer that silly, but you know, I
think they have very much looked at the success that
I've had and and said, you know, let's let's give
him a crew at trying to do the same in
our city.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
What actually did you campaign on?

Speaker 24 (48:06):
It's it's actually very hard to campaign on, you know,
for for local body, because you can't can't really promise
policy because you've you were only one of ten votes
around the table, so very much I voted. I campaigned on,
you know, working as a team, collaboratively with with you know, government,
with the staff, with community, you know, to deliver for

(48:30):
the city. And that's very much. You know, it's a
very positive campaign about how great the city is and
how much better it can be.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
You've got seven I think I'm right in saying seven
of the nine councilors, and you do you have a
sense of who they are, what they're about, and whether
you can do some good stuff with them.

Speaker 24 (48:46):
I've I've met a lot of them and done that
throughout the campaign. I've actually met all of them, but
I've had some you know, one on ones with with
a number of them as well. So I'm very excited
about the team that's been delivered. I think there's a
wide range of skills and you know, I absolutely, you know,
I believe that they will work together, you know, for

(49:07):
the betterment of the city.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
So you you you've sense genuine good will at least
to start with them.

Speaker 24 (49:14):
Oh, absolutely, you know. And I think this is the
where politics goes wrong is you know, people bring agendas
or you know, I guess egoes to the table and
and you know, they want to do their little thing,
and you know, that's not what this is about. This
is about delivering for for the citizens of the city.
That's who you work for and that's how you should

(49:36):
be accountable too. So you know, that's very much you
know what I believe I can bring to the table
and deliver for for the citizens of Tottingham.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
How do you explain the abysmal turnout?

Speaker 24 (49:50):
Yeah, look, it's it's local body politics. You know, the
turnouts in line with the last kind of three elections.
It's it's pretty poor that you under forty percent of
the town or the city. You know elects our members,
but you know, we've got to engage more with them

(50:11):
so they understand. You know why it's important to engage.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Because the funny thing about it is you, of all people,
not you personally, but you as in the tower on
the city. You get democracy taken away from you, and
you get the opportunity to have it back, and still
you can't be bothered getting out of bed and voting.
I mean it's amazing, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (50:28):
It is surprising. I thought it would be a very
big voter turnout, but again, we're probably going to look
at the way we're voting. You know, people don't check
their letterboxes anymore, and that's.

Speaker 22 (50:38):
How it comes.

Speaker 24 (50:38):
You've got to find a better way that people can
vote easily.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Some of the issues. I always fascinated with the way
the media covers these sort of things and all the
issues you face. You're not the government, you're just the council.
Are some of the things they are expecting you to do? Actually,
Wellington's issue, not yours.

Speaker 24 (50:55):
Yeah they are, but we've got to work together to
solve them because ultimately they affect of people that live
in our city. So you know, that's that's very important
that we worked together with all range of groups in
order to solve some of these things.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Good stuff, go well mate, I wish you all the
very best with it. Mahu Drysdale. The tower on a Maya,
seventeen minutes away from a ski. It was quickly on
this crowd strike thing, the warning of course of malicious actors,
you know, a bit of fishing, all that sort of stuff.
Less than one percentable windows based machines was affected. So
this whole hysteria around, you know, the whole world's crashed.

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And they then they Y two K. So they said,
Y two k. This is Y two k. This is
like Y two k my memory Y two k has
nothing happened. So therefore this can't be y two k
because something did happen this time. So the thing about
Y two k was we thought something was going to happen,
and we whipped ourselves into this mental hysteria, and then

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of course it came round there well.

Speaker 17 (51:51):
And the other difference is that they said it was
going to happen. They gave us plenty of warning that
it was a happened. If you had a machine. Opposite,
if you had a machine, Yeah, it's almost the exact
opposite area.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
So one, the whole world didn't stop. Two it's nothing
like Y, two K, and three most of the headline
writers wet their pants for no particular reason. Two thirds
of Saturday's canceled flights. By the way, we're in the US,
so it very much depended on where you were. But
even having said that, there were only three and a
half percent of planes canceled in all of America. Only
Australia was hit hard at cancel flights were running in

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about one percent in the UK, France and Brazil, two
percent in Canada, Italy and India. And of course, if
you're in a queue, you hated it. I get that,
But the world didn't come to what what's one?

Speaker 17 (52:33):
I'm just not very good at maths, and I know
I always turned to you for these sorts of equations.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
What's one percent of what one point four billion, one
hundred and forty million is ten one forty one point
four one percent? One point four I say one point
four million.

Speaker 17 (52:48):
Or fourteen million, anyway, whatever that is abouts how many
yeah people, yeahs? How many computers would have been affected
if it was one percent.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Out of how many?

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Oneteen is one point for a billion window.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I couldn't get excited about him, That's all I'm saying.
But if you were affective eye saults seven.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Five, the Mike Costing breakfast Mike.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
You didn't ask why Drysdale still for me when he
doesn't live in our city? He will and has. I
thought that got covered off clearly in the last couple
of weeks. So the guy was born and raised in Taweroga,
lives in Cambridge, spends a couple of days a week
there working for his current firm, and when his child
finished the school, we'll be moving to the city. Look,
if you can't be bothered turning up to vote, don't

(53:32):
start whining about where your meal lives. Just be grateful.
Speaking of which, let me come back to the maths
in just a moment. The first Democrat we've found so
far who's spoken posts the Biden situation, Eric Swowall, who's
out of California congressman whether or not he's going to
back Harris.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I fully support Kamala Harris, And in fact, she's been
trained by the best. Joe Biden was a vice president himself,
and so she probably had the best mentor to work under.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
And she's tough, she's smart.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
She's real, and she's everything that we need as we
go up against somebody who would take away every freedom.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
It's going to be fascinating to see how the sun
folds over the next couple of days. Just back on maths,
Drysdale got thirteen four hundred and nineteen votes the special
still to be voted. In total, only thirty three nine
hundred ninety eight people voted right, so he got roughly
a third of the third. So a third of the
people turned up to vote, he got a third of
the third. So in other words, he got next to

(54:31):
no one actually supporting him. Nine out of ten people
barely over nine out of ten people didn't vote for him.

Speaker 17 (54:38):
So if you if you're walking down you know the
strand today, well and you just say to somebody, hey,
did you vote for Mahi, and they'll go.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
No, precisely did you vote at all? By the way,
just quickly, best announcement of the weekend by a mile
didn't get the cobbage that deserves. Pothole prevention fund the
government saying that they will fix ninety five percent of
potholes within twenty four hours is either perhaps the greatest
thing they've done yet, or the stupidest thing they've promised,

(55:11):
because they don't stand a hope in hell of actually
being able to do it. But if they can pull
that off to fix a pothole in twenty four hours
is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Tenderway the make Hosking breakfast with the Bailey's real Estate
news talks be.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Given away from it. So another crack this morning in Auckland.
It's sorting other mess out that is the road Cone
Policy Mayor's Commission to report. The report found contractors have
little incentive to work cheaper or faster. Existing rules and
regulation center bized contractors, in fact, to cause maximum disruption
for maximum profits. So they're very good at what they do.
As at tent to Wayne Brown's with us, morning to you,
good morning. Why can't you guys get on top of this.

(55:47):
Why can't you just issue a couple of instructions, we
pay the bills, you'll do as I say they end.

Speaker 16 (55:54):
Well, that's a very good question, and I asked it
about eighteen months ago. And the culture have over safety
is everywhere in New Zealand, and these particular particular industry
is exploiting it to the maximum and it turns out,
you know, I've given direction to at to start reducing it,
and they've made something that they had made some money,

(56:16):
saved some money, but I'll start charging it. Turns out
there's a whole stack of rules and regulations that get
in the road of all that. And you know, it's
another case of willing and passing rules without really understanding
the ex.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That was my next question. So they are following Wellington's rule,
So Wellington need to do something about is that fair?

Speaker 16 (56:37):
Well, that's what easily happens. But in this case I've
written or I'll commission a report because if if I'll
raise it there what happens is it an mot or
commissioner report and several years later something will happen. So
well commissioner report. It's quite clearly what has to change
by the government. Just do this, don't not another report.
Just do this, and it's not just a waste of

(57:00):
money and the fact that it's not saving any lives.
It's annoying. Everybody causes people to behave bad Leny they
fed up going five ks now behind one of those trucks.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
And brown they are the most those guys who run
those trucks with the arrows are the most arrogant people
on the road in my forty five years of driving anyway,
be that as it may, Siming and Brown on your side,
he seems a reasonable bloke who wants to crack down.

Speaker 16 (57:24):
Oh he is, and he's picking up on a lot
of things that I'm doing. And if he wants to
fix this and become popular, and that's fine with me.
But it's a thing that I've been on ever since
I've got on the door. Not only is it a
waste of money and annoying everybody, but in some cases
it's quite dangerous. If we've got a lot of rural
roads in Ugand as well, and you have to go

(57:45):
down those and every so often there's a set of
cones sitting there with a sign saying thirty k, which
everybody ignores and because there's nothing happening, and then eventually
you come to one who there is a hole in
the road and there's an accident, exactly because the cone
companies are crying wolf and they're making good money out

(58:06):
of it, and it's really annoying. It goes along with
my campaign and it's the stupid seismic RvEs as with
another cost and burden on Auckland or something that isn't
going to happen either.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
You're going to have to get the sorted by next
year when the election campaign comes around, because you can't
spend the whole time moaning for three years and then
going back to the people saying I'm still moaning vote
for me again, because that's not going to work for you,
is it.

Speaker 16 (58:29):
Well, that's not what I've set out to do. There's
no other worries about that, so I've commissioned the report.
It doesn't need another report. It just do this right,
change these rules.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Well, let's get on it. Let's get on with it
sooner rather than later. Appreciate it very much. Wayne Brown,
Auckland's mayor, with us this morning. Mic tourism. Domestically, there
have been no major events like international touring artists, a
few sporting products. International tourists are still being sold the
clean green image, which is no longer what it was
post COVID. We're boring, too expensive, too far away, no
fun events, no after five activities. What we have are
some very good tourism attractions and practitioners. Tourism organized are

(59:00):
stuck in the past without dated marketing image promotion and
no game plan. Drastic overhaul is required. Well said Phil,
what are weekends of sports? Some fascinating things have unfolded
in just the last couple of hours. Formula E got sorted,
but golf, and that's before you get to the Formula one.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
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Real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three
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Speaker 4 (59:30):
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Speaker 1 (59:40):
Oh miss its and it remains at two point laid
for the riders, a much neated waiting.

Speaker 17 (59:47):
For the great machine and Vets will be Vets and
Sandy I jo it as a party in the USA
for the All Blacks.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Forty five Uncomfortable Morning Commentary B on the Mike Husking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It is seven past eight. Jason Plane and Andrew Savill
are both with us this morning. Fellers. Good morning to you.
Not that it's not a great pleasure to have you
on the program, Jason, but you are very last minute
due to the fact that Andrew and you might know
about this, so so guy have felt. Now here's here's
here's the whisper around the broadcasting community.

Speaker 15 (01:00:24):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
He's off to cover the Paris Olympics. Would he be
on his way there now?

Speaker 22 (01:00:29):
Oh, yes, I think he is. That's not very that's
not very. What sort of communication is exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
What sort of what sort of half? What leaves the
country without without telling anybody what's the matter with? And
also somebody told me he's leaving your place and he's
going to work for the horses.

Speaker 22 (01:00:50):
He's going to work for T A B. Why you know,
you know those little windows they have at Alisie or
race tracks, a little bookie. He's taking your cash at
the window.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
See. So he's going to stand on a little stool
and have his chin a bubble desk and go.

Speaker 22 (01:01:07):
People a pencil tucked in one ear at Rothman's in
his mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Good luck to him.

Speaker 22 (01:01:15):
He likes his horses, so he obviously thought he was
He obviously thought he was going to be turning left
when he got on the plane, and he would have
had Wi Fi and recalling and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
So he goes to TV and Z. Just correct me,
if I see if I've got this right. So he
goes to TV and Z and says, directly after my
trip to Paris, guys, bye bye, Is that how that works?

Speaker 22 (01:01:37):
I wasn't on those meetings. Make no comment.

Speaker 15 (01:01:40):
Well, I think that's I think it's wonderful text. It's
from guy if that's what's happened.

Speaker 22 (01:01:44):
So he's been like, he's been very he's had a
lot on his plate, and he's obviously taken off forgotten
about you. I wouldn't do that, mode, No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
No, that's why. It's why you're just for the record, Andrew,
it's why you're my favorite and you always were. Anyway,
stop it now, we've got so much to get to.
But Jason, I'm going to give you a prize of
five thousand dollars to the charity of your choice. Yes,
if you can guess before the Formula one in the
early hours of this morning, because that you surped it.
Before that, what was the most exciting sports event I

(01:02:16):
watched this weekend?

Speaker 15 (01:02:18):
The Open Championship?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
No, sorry, Jason, no prize, no charity. What was your
what was the charity of your choice? By the way,
that's just missed out on five thousand dollars.

Speaker 15 (01:02:29):
Would have gone to probably would have gone to cure kids,
I think. But yeah, it's a shame that. It's a
shame they're not getting their money exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So it was the Taranaki Airs versus the Canterbury Rams.
It's say, have you ready for this?

Speaker 22 (01:02:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Carl Stadium, Ah, the mighty Carl Stadium. And let me
tell you something about Carl Stadium is it hasn't changed
in forty five years since I last dribbled and shot
from the perimeter a successful fashion.

Speaker 22 (01:03:02):
Since your last dribbled.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
All right?

Speaker 22 (01:03:03):
You know I grew up about one hundred meets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I was looking looking at it yesterday. I thought, that
is exactly the same stadium as I played in, same stand,
same everything. I had a bit of roof work, I
think post the quake, but apart from that it remains untouched.

Speaker 22 (01:03:18):
Was there a tribute to me there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I couldn't see it, but the camera was on the
wrong angle a shrine? Yeah, I think no, it's the
statue out front, but they had it was all shot inside,
so it said I think that I've seen.

Speaker 22 (01:03:29):
It recently on TV as well. Yes, it looks very familiar.
I think they might have changed the quarter around the
angle of it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
But apart from that, exactly not much.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
It was brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
What was exciting memories double overtime, double overtime semi final
game for the Finals. The Rams got through by one point.
It was brilliant. Your highlight, Jason.

Speaker 16 (01:03:50):
Well.

Speaker 15 (01:03:51):
I enjoyed the All Blacks. I must say, I know
it was, I know it was. It was always a
bit of a fatal complay. I enjoyed watching Billy Propter
in a thirteen jersey for the All Blacks. Thought he
was had a terrific game. Yes, it wasn't the rush
defense that England brought against the likes of Jordi Barratt
Dirico Yuani, but I think really prop To put his
hand nice and high content as the thirteen jersey. I

(01:04:12):
also enjoyed the fact that the that the stadium there
snapped Dragon Stadium was chokers.

Speaker 22 (01:04:18):
It looked fantasy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
At one occasion it was not what tell, have you
still got black and white?

Speaker 7 (01:04:23):
Are you not?

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Do you realize that the seats that didn't have people
in them were empty?

Speaker 15 (01:04:28):
Well, they obviously haven't gone the well ins at the
sky Stadium route and painted the yellow seats.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
There were heaps of spear seats.

Speaker 22 (01:04:36):
I think it either at either end or especially at
one end, it looked half eat.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Yeah, it was did you outside outside of that SEB
I mean outside of a few newbies going hey, pick me,
what was the point of that?

Speaker 22 (01:04:49):
Yeah, maybe long term a US strategy or or getting
these sponsors out there and pressing the flesh in San Diego.
But look, as we know, over the last one hundred years,
Rugby has tried time and time again to get a
foothold on the States and it won't happen. No, it's
not going to happen. I thought the new guys went well.

(01:05:11):
I think there's been a lot of calls over the
weekend for all these new guys or a number of
them to come into the number one fifteen if you like.
But I think you've got to pull the rains back
here a tad and realize that Fiji is not an
England team. Fiji gave the All Blacks plenty of room
to move and they looked impressive. You're going to get
that against defense, a defense which isn't as clinical or

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fast as the English. So I think you've got to
take it with a large grain of salt. These performances,
or that performance against Fiji, I think we'll still pretty
much the selectors will stick with the tried and true
for their opening Argentina tests in a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
You'd have to hope so more. In a moment, Jason
Pin Andrew Sevil took about Siberia in the moment thirteen
past the mic Hosking Breakfast sixteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Eight The Monday Morning commentary bars on the mic Husking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
As resebine with us Jason Artie Sava. Here's my problem.
You can do whatever you like, and good luck to him.
But when you surround yourself with not being quite the
same side as your previous sight, in other words, they're
not as good as they were, you run a risk,
don't you.

Speaker 15 (01:06:12):
Yeah, I think that has probably factor into us thinking.
But other things have overridden that, you know, the ability
to perhaps be a force for good at Mona Pacifica,
to play alongside his brother Julian and to lift that side. Look,
I mean the size is going to be immediately improved
by his presence. You know that I had ten thousand
to the gate and some young players, and that franchise

(01:06:32):
will get huge benefit out of it. Look, I think
we all know Ardie sav has got enormously high standards.
He went to Japan and played with you know, a
group of flowers, with all due respect, who weren't the
same as the Hurricanes and the All Blacks. And it
didn't seem to drop his standards at all. So look,
once I got over the disappointment of him not playing
for my Hurricanes anymore, actually.

Speaker 22 (01:06:51):
Don't mind the movie all right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Have you seen the Mike?

Speaker 22 (01:06:55):
I think I think he'll attract I think he'll attract players.
From what I'm here, there's a few ex All Blacks
are looking at coming home and maybe joining up from
Mowana as well. And Artie is a massive raw card.
I think the way things ended with his brother of
the Hurricanes has probably still left a bit of a
sour taste with Artie. And also I don't think In
is completely happy about this shift, but good on them. Yeah, no,

(01:07:17):
I wants to play for a team that is full
of his heritage and once once a different you know,
a new move, a new fresh start.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Ab you seeing the f one?

Speaker 22 (01:07:25):
By the way, I've heard about it? So team orders right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Oh, everything, everything, go listen.

Speaker 22 (01:07:32):
To the stap. What do you mean everything? It's been
quite dull season, a.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Pile of crap. I'm about to get rid of Guy Hervelt.
You can go too. Here's the thing. Listen, listen to
Vestapans radio. What a cry baby. Listen to that. That's
a story in itself, right, the Stapen hitting Hamilton, that's
a story in itself. Team Orders on piastre versus Norris,
that's a story in itself. There are more winners this

(01:07:57):
season than there have been in the last so.

Speaker 22 (01:08:00):
I'll give you that. What's thirteen different winners.

Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
Something like that.

Speaker 22 (01:08:03):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
It is so exciting. It is one of the great races,
certainly of the year, the greatest race of the year.
It's fantastic.

Speaker 22 (01:08:09):
It's great to see McLaren back.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah, they're back one too. You can't argue with it.

Speaker 22 (01:08:13):
Yeah, So what would have you if you were told
to slow down for your teammate, let him pass it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
If I was little, if I was Sebastian Vettal when
the same thing happened. He didn't, He refused to, and
he said, I'm here to win and I'm going to win.

Speaker 21 (01:08:26):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
You listen to the radio on that, because they said,
at your at your leisure, please, Lando, just let peer
oscar through, and he ignored it, ignored it, ignored it.
And they said anytime you're ready, Lando, Please let Oscar through.
Ignored it. Ignor Lando, you'll eventually need your team and
you'll need your teammates and you will need all of us.
Please let him through. And then by the time they're
running out of lapse, they went do it now and

(01:08:50):
so he was ropeable and he technically, technically it was fair.
In terms of racing, it was fair and Norris should
have won it on the flip side.

Speaker 22 (01:09:03):
Didn't They use a bit of pit strategy for Norris
compared to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
That was the That was the argument because they gave
him a break and usurped the Piastre on pits. He
got the break he needed to get to the front.
They were saying, we need to rectify that now. Piastre
paid the price, then you can pay the price now.
And I think that's that's their argument.

Speaker 22 (01:09:21):
And let's not forget PS three as Australian's not bad
for this part of the world with didn't Perez crash
and practice of qualifying as SONODA is the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Real story for us. Everyone there, Everyone there is not
talking about Liam Lawson going into RB. They're talking about
Liam Lawson replacing Perez. He's going into the number one
seat in F one. How good? I mean, that's just
not a seat, that's that's your coming. Second to Max,
we can week out if you do your job properly.
Aren't you all right?

Speaker 22 (01:09:50):
Just on the can we just touch on the worries.
I'm sure you're watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Harris deleta Webster's what did you do on.

Speaker 22 (01:09:56):
That flash couch?

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
You was?

Speaker 22 (01:09:57):
When he missed that goal? It's well, I mean, obviously inexcusable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yes, yes, I couldn't agree more. But league has always
been weak on kickers until Matthew Ridge came along all
those years ago and professionalized the position. And we've got
and we've got a good kicker and Pompey. But obviously
no one else thought Pompy was ever going to be
off the field again. And so when Harris, I can
kick better than Harris to Vita, and I'm serious, I
can do better than he can. And that's not saying anything.

(01:10:27):
It's unforgivable.

Speaker 22 (01:10:28):
I looked away because I thought this was a give
and it's going to God.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah, no excuse now now, Jason, I need to get
on to.

Speaker 22 (01:10:34):
Someone like Dan Carter. Bring up Daniel Carter, come on
down some techniques to work with some work with Seawn
Johnson earlier in the season. Needs to go back.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, couldn't agree more. What do you what do you say, Jason?
What else haven't we covered there the goal yet?

Speaker 15 (01:10:49):
I just, I just I just want to mention Hamishker
another one's in a diamond mate, but he has to
be a medal prospect and power of famous curl looking
forward to see him?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Who would have seen that happen? A New Zealand high jumper?

Speaker 22 (01:11:06):
Incredible?

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Yeah, and he seems like he seems like.

Speaker 22 (01:11:09):
Shock you and wouldn't shock you and field and say
discus would have high jumpers and field of but discus
shot put what have you? But high jump? Yeah, it's brilliant, outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Yeah, exactly. It takes you back to your days.

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
Of your Frosby flop Sir Cal Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
You flop at Carl Stadium as well, did you?

Speaker 22 (01:11:28):
I once I once got on a brawl on the
court there. But let's leave back for another day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Okay, cool, Jason. I appreciate you stepping in the The
fee will be the usual on is that.

Speaker 22 (01:11:39):
The second strike for guy? Three strikes gone?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I know, I think it's two strikes gone. I hear
him Mauck around Andrew, this is this is the show.
You don't want to be on it, No problem.

Speaker 22 (01:11:49):
You'll call him next week because you want to talk
about all your Parisian experiences and actually him You're.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
Welcome, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Let's get him back for one more than dump them.
Nice to see you guys, them, tru Sephal and Jason Pine.
That was Jason. Wasn't expecting that for his Monday morning,
but he did a great job a twenty two.

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earlier on this morning, was the co chair of the
Biden campaign. There isn't a Biden campaign, and he moreso
one assumes his co chair of the dot dot dot
dot dot campaign. Anyway, here he is.

Speaker 25 (01:13:17):
He was determined to beat Donald Trump and to make
sure that the hard work he and Kamala Harris have
done a leading our country this last four years continues,
and I think we should focus on that, on being
united as a party, and on honoring and respecting the
very difficult choice Joe Biden has made today and the
very great legacy that he's continued to build.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Public policy polling did a couple of numbers on the
seventeenth and eighteenth, so, in other words, a couple of
days ago before the decision was made this morning. They
did it in Michigan, and they did it in Pennsylvania.
Harrison Shapiro v Trump in dvance in Pennsylvania and Michigan,
so let's have a look. And they also did Harrison
Wittmer in Pennsylvania. I'll give you those numbers. In just

(01:14:01):
a couple of moments, Harris has said, I'm honored to
have the endorsement. My intention is to earn and win
the nomination. Bernie Sanders says, thank you, mister President, for
all you've done. Obama his statements about three pages long.
More shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
I want to go through the whole Obama because no,
you know, you know, Obama goes on forever. But essentially
what he's saying and is we will be navigating uncharted waters.
And I mean he does the whole. Joe's a great guy,
and I love Joe and all that sort of stuff.
I mean, he knifed him in the back. He's as
bad as pelosianshumor. We'll be navigating uncharted waters in the
days ahead. But I have extraordinary confidence that the leaders

(01:14:46):
of our party will be able to create a process
from which an outstanding nominee emerges. He's wanting an open race.
So that's consequential in itself Biden's vision of a generous,
prosperous in United America that provides the opportunity for everyone
to be on full the display at the Democratic Convention
in August. So it's an open race he wants. He
doesn't want it stitched up before they get to Chicago. Meantime,

(01:15:06):
that polling I referred to Public Policy polling taken on
July seventeen. July eighteen, Michigan, Pennsylvania. In Michigan Harris and
Shapiro forty two percent, Trump advance forty seven. Pennsylvania Harrison,
Shapiro forty seven, Trump and vance forty six. So they
take Pennsylvania Harrison, Wittner, Whitmer in Pennsylvania forty two, Trump

(01:15:29):
advance forty seven. So they've still got a world of
pain ahead of themselves. Also just unfolding as we speak, apparently,
and it's been reported by multiple sources Biden's own camp.
And this goes to what I told you about earlier
on in the program he's seething. He's in Delaware, absolutely
seething at the way he's been treated. Biden's own campaign

(01:15:51):
found out at the same time, you and I did
twenty two to nine.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Paskings right over international correspondence with ends in eye insurance,
peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Past three of the money to you.

Speaker 11 (01:16:06):
Not much happening today.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
I see no ano another quiet day the coalition. Now
this ties up. I was going to ask you about this,
this thing that Dunton's got on with the CFMEU and
the fact that everything you see around you is built
over price because they're all crooks. That surely is in
part going to play well if it isn't already in

(01:16:27):
these polling numbers we're seeing this morning.

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
Yeah, Look, no one likes that union. And clearly what
we've now got is federal labor and state labor, and
Victoria in particular, but also in your South Wales and
queencamp in denial over what they can do now to
react to the complaints that have been lodged against the
behavior of the union. So it will play out well federally.

(01:16:50):
It's probably more of a state issue in Victoria than
a federal issue. But when you drive on a tunnel
in Sydney and they've got a magnificent road system there,
now you know that you're paying a high toll, and
it's the most told city in the world for road tolls.
Then you're paying more because the union were crooks and
when they built the thing, they were paid too much

(01:17:11):
in salary in rages, and they screwed the hell out
of the people who were building it. And we should
also remember, and I mean I have to keep reiterating
that the construction companies themselves have got a lot to
blameful here. I mean, they had these very lucrative government
contracts and so when the union came along and said, well,
you know, we're going to be the ones who do
the hard yaker here, and you're going to pay us

(01:17:32):
a lot of money in wages. You're going to give
us more than what you would be paying people who
are not in the CFM. The construction company said yes
because they didn't want to lose the contract, and so
you end up with an expensive piece of infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
It's all the stuff, the laws they're changing, the Fair
Work Commission, who's investigating is that going to be consequential?

Speaker 11 (01:17:50):
And effectable, not no pathetic and it's not even a
genuine inquiry. I mean the folk has been put in
charge in Melbourne at the inquiry is it is in
the inner circle of the public service. I mean it's
not going This country's got a federal and each state
as a corruption commission, and that corruption commission is not
being used to investigate what's.

Speaker 15 (01:18:12):
Going on here.

Speaker 11 (01:18:13):
And so unless there is a strong push from the public,
a public mood to say, look, this needs to go
to another Royal commission or at least to the corruption Commission,
We're not going to find out exactly what happened in labor.
It's a classic case. Don't ask the question you don't
know the answer to because you don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
To know what No, you don't want to know the truth.
See I'm also reading Steve Over the weekend. Liverpool Council.
Now this is something we wouldn't have anything to do
with normally, But a city council in Sydney on the
brink of suspension a report that accuses it of potential corruption,
wasting public money, frequent and repetitive pattern of hiring family
and associates. What's the matter with everyone?

Speaker 11 (01:18:54):
Well, local councils, particularly in Sydney in the time I
worked there with the worst offenders.

Speaker 14 (01:18:59):
I mean, we've got in.

Speaker 11 (01:19:01):
Charge of planning permission and so you've got a huge
amount of power over someone who wants to build a
factory or do a housing estate. You go to the
local council and if you pay enough money, you're convince
them to change the planning regulations on that bit of dirt.
It's as simple as that. There's a long, long, long

(01:19:21):
history in Sydney local council has been crooked.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
It's amazing though, how many of us are joining up
your military and does that turn things around?

Speaker 11 (01:19:29):
Bob, We're in good shade now. One hundred and sixty
New Zealand has applied to become members of the Australian
Defense Force.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Nice, so when.

Speaker 11 (01:19:38):
China comes over, the rising up in Darwin, your boys
will be front and center. This is what Because we've
changed the recruiting the way where we do recruits, New
Zealander has been able to excuse me to apply for Army,
Navy and Air Force since July one. So it's a
significant number of people. One hundred and sixty in less
than two months. One hundred and sixty six. In fact

(01:20:00):
it is, and then from January, if you're a citizen
of the US, Britain or Canada, you will also be
allowed to apply for the ADF. So I guess the
old term A zach is well and truly alive. You
boys are on our side.

Speaker 14 (01:20:14):
Now when you get.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
Invaded, well, exactly, we'll have no and lift where we
haven't got a military. That's that's part of our problem. Hey,
by the way, we didn't get to the numbers on
that pole. What are the numbers on the pole?

Speaker 11 (01:20:24):
Both sides on the nose? Only twenty eight percent support
both the leaders, which is really interesting. Albanize is less
popular than Dutton and one name because they asked on
both sides of politics, who's the most popular your in
that party and who would you like to be prime minister?
The name Senator Nampa jimper Price from Northern Territory was

(01:20:47):
the second most popular Conservative politician in the list, after
Peter Dutton himself. Now she's the problem is she's in
the Senate, so she'd have to get out of there
and find a seat. She's also in the Northern Territory
which only has I think two or three seats in total.
But she is an extraordinary popular person, seemed to get

(01:21:07):
things done and I wouldn't be surprised if the Liberal Party,
who were actually looking at trying to nudge her a
cost to their way and have her as a candidate
to stand probably in the Lower House in the next election.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Interesting go well might catch up Wednesday preciate a Steve
Price out of Australia. Yeah, Dutton's cost claim so is
backed by the master builders of Australia. They want independent
economists get in there and have a look at what's
going on. If somebody said the behavior of the Union
was pushing up costs by thirty percent, that would not
surprise me. Extraordinary. And on the military in the New

(01:21:40):
Zealand as joining the military, people have been banging on
a plate about the police in this country and how
everyone's going to Queensland. It simply isn't true. Because there
was a story floating about over the weekend that the
government might we will raise this with lux and tomorrow
the government might be struggling to get their five hundred
more police officers because if you look at the number
of ads in the paper the Police News, constabulary staffing

(01:22:03):
numbers have fallen by one hundred and twenty four, not
including vacancies. So there were ten thousand, two hundred and
November twenty three, ten thousand and one ninety in feb
Of twenty four, ten thousand and one fifty two in
March and April. So they're a bit over ten thousand,
but it's not growing. But then they get to the
Queensland number. There's sixty nine people have gone to Queensland,

(01:22:24):
sixty nine out of a populational workforce of over ten thousand.
Do that as a percentage, it's point six of one percent.
There's more than point six of one percent of ordinary
New Zealanders that have gone to Australia. And in just
about every large company in the country. I guarantee you
there's at least point sixty nine of one percent who

(01:22:45):
have crossed the tasmudal left work to go somewhere else.
It's a non event, it's a non story. Eight forty five.
The Myke hosting racist thirteen away from nine j eighty
vance has given this. Joe Biden's been the worst president
in my lifetime. In Kamala, Harris has been right there
with them every step of the way. Over the last
four years, she co signed Biden's open border and green
scam policies that drove up the cost of housing and groceries.

(01:23:07):
This is going to be the fascinating thing as to
how they handle it. One whether it's open to whether
they stitch her up and line her up for the convention.
But more importantly, the baggage she has, apart from the
fact she's underwater polewise, is that she's inextricably linked with
the Biden campaign and the Biden record. If you get
somebody completely different, can they then shift the narrative away
from that and run their own narrative and give themselves

(01:23:28):
there for a chance. I don't know, completely missing really
today for obvious reasons, as the Secret Service admission over
the weekend to NBC, and I think initially it was
the Washington Post who reported it that the claim that
they once denied, i e. The Trump campaign had come
to them a number of times and said we need
additional security and they would turn down. They said that's
not true. They admitted over the weekend it was true,

(01:23:50):
and so Trump and their campaign several times it asked
for increased security and they couldn't do it because of
resources next thing we learn over the weekend is Crooks,
as in the shoe, flew a drone over the site.
They don't know when, but he had been thinking long
and hard about it. And as far as the shooter
Crooks is concerned, they know nothing. Two hundred interviews, they've

(01:24:12):
gone through his phone, they've gone through the internet search record.
He was intelligent, unassuming, loner. And there's lots of people
who speak these days very eloquently and intelligently on one
of the great social problems of our time all over
the world, and that is the lonely, angry, depressed, disaffected

(01:24:33):
young male. And my suspicion is he was nothing more
than that. So if you're looking for some sort of
weird connection to it's not there. So they're still puzzled.
Politically motivated, No, seems similar to dozens of other young
men who wrecked habit across the States, didn't have many friends,
went down to the shooting range a lot. May have

(01:24:55):
been looking to carry out a high profile shooting in
the Trump events. Proximity and timing offered the most accessible opportunity. So,
in other words, he just wanted to make a statement,
go out in the blaze of Glory Trump happened to
be coming to town. It was that simple search for
information on another recent mass shooting, the bloke who shot
four classmates at Michigan High Back in twenty twenty one,
Ethan Crumbley. That was consistency in and other mass shooters.

(01:25:18):
They researched people who they wish to emulate as a
way to form their own idea of how to do
something bigger. That's just what it might, just what it becomes,
comes down to. He was just an angry, disaffected, bullied
loaner of a young man slash kid. And that's all
there is to it. Sadly, tragically, nine away from nine.

Speaker 4 (01:25:38):
The hosting breakfast with Janguine used to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
This bloke who led the Extinction rebellion in Britain, Roger
Hamlin fifty eight. He got found guilty in Brittany, he
got just stop oil. He was one. I mean they
do a lot, they throw orange powder all over the place.
By the way, before I forget Ray Riardon died yesterday.
Rayd was not the greatest snooker player of all time,
but up until ronne O Sullivan probably was. Or if

(01:26:06):
you go Hendry you could have that debate but Rae
with the big glasses, the big high glass I know,
yes and no, not the original big glasses guy. But
he did have big glasses. But he looked like They
called him Dracula because he had a sort of the
Dracula hair. But he when Pop Black came along, was
one of the early proponents of the sport at that
particular point in time.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
Of all the striking features of him. Yeah, to be
named after Dracula the hare.

Speaker 15 (01:26:31):
Yeah, Dracula well known for that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
He Dracula hair.

Speaker 22 (01:26:34):
But he died.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
I can't remember what he was, ninety one or ninety three.
I think he was ninety three from memory, and one
of the greats Anyways, just that the Shanghai Masters wrapped
up over the weekend and Ronnie got beaten in the
semi finals by Trump, who went on to beat Shaw
Murphy in the final. It was some fantastic snooker. Where
was I Roger Hallam, Yes, head of Just Stop Oil.
He was the guy who sat down, one of the
people who sat down on the motorway in Britain and

(01:26:56):
blocked it all and just just drives got stuck in
jail for five years. Good job. They should do more
of that five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
Trending now your home of Winter Essentials.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
It really was has been quite the morning, and so
much of the story as yet to unfold. The sadness
is that he was too old, he was too dottery,
and quite often he became simply too embarrassing. And what
happened was he turned up for a debate, he couldn't
handle it, and it all got badly, badly, badly badly
badly exposed. And it was always many respects, going to

(01:27:31):
end up the way it did today. This, sadly, in
many respects, is what will be remembered for anyway.

Speaker 26 (01:27:45):
The best way to get something done if you holds
near and dear to you that you.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
Like to be able to anyway.

Speaker 26 (01:27:55):
From Fromotte, assumed me from Charlotte one another line going
from in Florida down to Tampa of prudence, Kyptoker, Yeah,
and and and Joan shang shv passory Shanga. America is

(01:28:18):
a nation that can be defined in a single word.
I was gonnaoot him Los Angeles and uh and uh
uh what am I doing here? Because we haven't been
able to communicate it in a way that is uh uh.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Let me say another way, and now that you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Know what's happen, does it or does it not? Seem
us dolls? But they let that go on for so
long Back tomorrow morning at six Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
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