Full Show Podcast: 22 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
You're welcome today. More money into hell Fast Tracks seems
stuck in the frustrations growing We're turning away to Heinette Weelfers.
Apparently you want to come on holiday here, Prime Minister,
and of course the lads in the commentary box, Richard Arnold,
Dennis Shanahan, Day to Australia and Americans, gold Force, Hosky,
Welcome to the week. Seven minutes past six, when Ted
Cruz and Tucker Carlson a raging against their president, you

(00:30):
know a line has been crossed, cru said. The FCC
threat from Brendan Kahr was straight out of Good Fellows.
It's got mafia written all over it. It's important not
to forget. Actually, we have the confluence here of several
stories in the Kimel scrap. One, the absurdity of defending
free speech while closing it down. The First Amendment is
critical until it isn't. Apparently. Two, the lack of corporate spine.

(00:51):
Both Kimmel and Colbert have been dumped, mainly because the
companies that own the networks were looking for FCC approval
to do business. The fact they were being compromised by
standard tactics doesn't appear to bother them. It reminds me
a lot of COVID actually in this country. The number
of corporates who privately raged against the government, we're nowhere
to be seen publicly. It's amazing what power driving fear
can do to a business. And then three, the simple

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reality that despite one and two, these late night shows
have in fact dug their own grave. They are broadcasting failures.
They're arrogance to ignore the mood of the audience as
seeing their ratings crater and along with an advertising revenue.
Where once Leno and Letterman kept at light and fun,
Kimmel and co. Have turned their shows into ansfests with
less humor and more campaigning. I mean, no one wants
to be lectured at eleven o'clock at night, and they

(01:35):
fail to see it. Like it or not, the Trump
train is rolling and their fury belongs largely in places
like California. The rest of America is not interested. So
in the midst of the mess, who is the biggest
criminal here? Is it? The President? For being a hypocrite.
Is it the networks for being spineless or is it
the shows for being out of touch with their audiences?
And while you work that out, the indisputable bit as

(01:56):
the biggest losers are. Of course, the show is the
president's not for turning in his time limited anyway, the
networks will move on with their FCC permissions, but the
shows they're gone. The landscape is irrevocably changed. The big
question left is who's next.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, this is what recognizing the Palestinian state sounds like.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
We recognize the state of Israel more than seventy five
years ago as a homeland for the Jewish people. Today
we join over one hundred and fifty countries who recognize
a Palestinian state.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Also, the UK line up with Canada and Australia. Of course,
the un love this sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
They see that the whole wall Is Company and the
Palestinian people have made it forward. The Palestinian identity is
certainly preserved, and our right to exist on our geography
is certainly also preserved.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Back in Britain, the Jewish community not exactly thrill.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
It also goes against what the Labor Party put in
their manifesto before they were in government, they said that
they would recognize a Palestinian state at a time.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
That was most conducive to peace.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
That time is absolutely.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Look now, nor indeed the Americans.

Speaker 9 (03:10):
Rewarding come Oss, which is currently holding at least forty hostages,
possibly twenty of them alive, and could reward any minute
simply by surrendering those hostages. They're handing a giant reward
to terrorists in the middle of a war that Israel
is fighting against, a terror group that the Starmer himself
says has to be extirpated.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Then the memorial for Charlie Cook just underway in Arizona,
that come from far and wide. I just came to
support Charlie.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
He had a great vision, a good purpose, great following.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
God bless America and God bless his country.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
If this bloke will be there as well.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
I did so well with the young voter, and by
the way, Charlie helped me a lot. Charlie also said
you should get on TikTok, so I think I did that,
but others said that too, and did amazingly well on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
The prisons, I believe is scaffered the elbow chances of
a meeting with them bit more on that later on. Finally,
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(04:14):
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As News of the World and Hope by Yes in
ninety how Your Power? What can I tell you?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
Risk?

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Got a bit on Japan and just a couple of
moments with their headline inflation out over the weekend down
to two point seven from three point one. That's a
fresh low. The core core, which is what they're riding
to strips out fresh food and your energy's that was
at three point three, down from three point four. I
think they're happy with that. Eleven past six.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
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Speaker 2 (04:51):
Seppy if you missed it over the week in Richardna
with more on Arizona for you shortly, but if you
missed it over the weekend, Trump lost badly for now anyway,
in the New York Times suit fifteen fifteen billion dollars,
any other judge said it's not a protected platform to
rage against adversaris. He's got twenty eight days to do
something about that. Starma a reasonably good day. One thousands

(05:12):
in obviously illegal migrants boat people over the week of
thousands in. He's now got the second one out because
the original bloke, the Era train who went to court,
he lost, So he's gone fourteen past six. Ron Devin
and Funds Management Greg Smith morney to you, it's actually
generating my sincere apologies. I've just one who worked at
one through my apologies for that. Now where are we here?

(05:33):
We trade data? What have we got?

Speaker 10 (05:34):
The deficit increased, Yeah, that's right, it did to one
point two billion for August from seven one six billion
in July. But let's look at some positives on a
roll in twelve month basis that if it's a disease
from three point nine to two point nine to nine
billion heads off in the recent months. But if you
look at it on a year ago numbers, still looking
pretty good. So good exports are twenty three percent to

(05:58):
five point nine billion, Dairy all the cultures still driving
the May means and fridic sports fifty seven percent high
to nine oh five million. Key week fruit exports mike
still going gang busters, up three hundred million on the
same month a year ago to seven seven two million,
and milk, powder, butter and cheese that was up two
seven two million to one point one billion. So China
up three forty three million, Australia up one hundred and

(06:19):
twenty million. Terms of exports EU up to ten and
even the good old US to spottle the tariff TERMIL
that's up ninety six million on a year ago. On
the other side, good imports they were down thirty million
to seven point one billion. So yeah, I'm weakening in
recent months, but still good on a year ago. I
think you'd have to think obviously we saw the you
know those GDP numbers which you talked about last week,

(06:41):
But yeah, we're gonna get further cuts by the abans
outn't we and that's gonna have an impact on the
key dollar further, you would think, so prospect of that
deficit situation improving as their exports become cheaper to our
trade partners and imports more expensive.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Talk to me about vedex fedix.

Speaker 10 (06:56):
Yeah, a bit of a crack of a result in
terms of the direction on fridays, the delivery giant bat
at the top and bottom lines. Need income eight twenty
million up on seven nineteen million in the IGO period.
What was more impressive. Talking about traders, it was obviously
a pretty tough environment for them all. It was certainly evolving.
So they move around seventeen million packages each day, they said,

(07:17):
Terra feed winds with one fifty million in the quarter.
That amount to some one billion this year. I reckon
the main thing, Mike, is this diminous exemption that used
to mean that shipman's under adey hundred dollars didn't attract duties.
They now do. That's pretty relevant to locks of Temu.
That's increased costs will reduced a number of those shipments.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Phoenix also saw.

Speaker 10 (07:36):
A few pressures in its business to business segment, but
over all Quarley revenues up three percent. Twenty two point
two billion. International volumes they fell by three percent. Of
the US they went up six percent. So it seems
like use consumers are continued to gravitate more and more
to online shopping, and Phoenix had pretty upbeat about the
full year outlook. They see a revenue of four to
six percent growth. That was a lot more on the

(07:58):
market expected. That killing back costs, they reduced a number
of pickup times and that hasn't really been neggive for
customers as yet. They're actually increasing the market share, so
she is up two percent on Friday. They have been
in the eye of the trade storm and they've fallen
around eighteen percent this year. But I suppose men will
be hoping for things settling down the trade front. I suppose,

(08:19):
despite what jome Pel said last week, and it's sill
an evolving situation.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
All right. So it gave inflation, but the boj didn't move,
and no one thought they were going to move to
they that's right.

Speaker 10 (08:28):
So they held at half percent, seven two votes, so
couple voted for an increase too point seven five percent.
They've been actually trying to keep inflation going, and inflation
actually ease to two point seven percent in August from
three point one.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Percent in July.

Speaker 10 (08:41):
They're wary about the economic situation globally. Of course, they've
got their own political uncertainly with their PEM resigning, but
they are open to heights later in the year. But
was surprising, Mike is that they revealed they're going to
start selling their vast hoddings of exchange traded funds. So
they're going to do so a pace of about six
and twenty billion end per year. It's about four point
two billion dollars worth, but it does sound like a lot,

(09:04):
but they've got a lot seventy five trillion YenS, so
it's going to take them over a century to get
through those at that pace. But look, that's committed to
doing so. I mean, it actually became the largest hold
of Japanese stocks around twenty twenty, and they brought up
lots of financial institutions during the various crisis in the
two thousand, so they've got a way to go. It's
going to take a while, but just sort of really

(09:25):
a signal or policy of normalization, and I suppose the
other things sort of even though they haven't been buying eighty,
the Japanese stock market's been hitting record high It's up
around fifteen percent of this year, so the great unwind
is starting, Mike, but they won't be doing it too fast,
you would think, so as not to spook invests.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
How about some numbers, Yeah, how about the numbers.

Speaker 10 (09:45):
So the down was that point four percent on Friday
forty six three one five s and P five hundred
and half percent to sixty four. The NAIs deck up
point seven percent twenty two sixty three one fortually down
one point one percent. Nick talking about down point six
percent forty five zer five A six two hundred, up
point three percent eight double seven three insects fifty. We

(10:05):
had a good session bounce back up point nine percent
thirteen to two three one, going up forty one dollars
three six eighty five oil down eighty nine cents sixty
two spot sixty eight currencies are the Kiwi weeker against
the US fifty eight point six. We're under eighty nine.
Aguts I was in MIKE eighty eight point down nine
down point one percent. British pound forty three point five.

(10:26):
That was up a little bit down against the end
down point four percent eighty six point seven this week.
A little bit going on, but the union season settled down.
UK and Gyman manufacturing US Durwbel Goods sing called a
GDP and UIs inflation, got results from Costco locally consumer
confidence and four year results from cat Mandu owner km
D Brands.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
And Fontier Go well, mate, appreciate it very much. Greg
Smith out of Generate Wealth and Kiwi Saber Specialists Husky,
what's the insight into the American car market? And I
think we break them down the way they do. But
the Sheriff new car sold over five fifty thousand America
is a lot for a car. I mean it's a
lot here, but that's different money anyway. Shere, a new

(11:06):
car sold over fifty thousand dollars was almost double while
it was in twenty nineteen. So people with money are
elevating the car market. Thirty three models are for sale
above one hundred thousand dollars in America. There's only eighteen
below thirty thousand. So if you got the money, there's
plenty of choice. And that's what's driving cars at the moment.
Six twenty one, you're a News Talks.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Z'b the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,
Power by News Talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, before you know, it's going to become a bit
of a meme. The idea was that Elbow lobbed into
New York yesterday and he was going to have a
one on one with Trump, because of course this has
become a thing in Australia. He cannot get in front
of Trump, and he was going to be able to
do that apparently, but this Kirk thing's come up and
that's off. Now He's inevitably going to run into him
at the un But a pull a side is not
a one on one, So Elbow's got problems there. But

(11:53):
we'll talk with Dennis later on in the program. A
couple of interesting things for Trump over the weekend. When
is this golden Chaer thing. Now, you'll remember the Nipon
Steel and US Steel deal a number of months back,
he gave the clearance to merge. Then over the weekend,
US Steel goes, we're going to close down Granite City,
one of our plants, and we've informed our eight hundred workers.

(12:16):
Now part of that deal and the merger was the government,
i e. Trump holds what they call a golden chair.
And after they announced that we're going to close down
this particular plant, Trump via Lutnik said no, you're not,
at which point US Steel said, oh that's right. No,
we're not. So they were closing it down. Now they're not,
so the eight hundred people saying that. So part of

(12:37):
the deal allegedly is nipon Ad agreed to keep US
Steel's blast venices operating at full capacity for a minimum
of ten years. So this golden share thing that he's
got going seems to be paying off. Then we come
to the h one B visas, which seemed to be
communication wise complete cockup because he said there's one hundred
thousand dollars of visa. These are all the foreigners they
import for mainly tech companies. I mean Amazon, Alans got

(13:00):
fourteen thousand people on these eighth to one B visas,
and they said one hundred thousand per visa and they
went what And the tech companies the people who gave
them all the money in the first place, so they're
backed off on that and they said, well, it's only
a one off payment, not annual, and it won't be retrospective.
So that's something to watch, as well as six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Trending now with him as well Spring Frenzy sale on Now.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Then you get too, speaking of tech, Zuckerberg and the
dream of his aiglass. Anyway, theory is your new glass
is going to replace your phone, so you can check
where you're wearing these glasses. You can check your messages
and do your videos and all that sort of stuff.
So what bit of time to show the future? Then
at the launch event, so here's Zuckerberg trying to make
a simple video call.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
What's up? Video call?

Speaker 11 (13:40):
There we go, O, why let's see what happened.

Speaker 12 (13:48):
That's too bad.

Speaker 11 (13:49):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 13 (13:54):
Maybe bars can strike calling me again? All right, okay,
there is doing the actual Hi. Going to pick that
up with my my neural band. This is you know,
it happens.

Speaker 12 (14:11):
It's not for a point.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Try it again.

Speaker 11 (14:15):
I keep un messing this up. Okay, I don't know
what to tell.

Speaker 13 (14:22):
You, guys. All right, I'm telling you we're just going
to go to the next thing they wanted to show
and hope that will work.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Earlier on a chef was using the glasses for a
recipe in AI wasn't listening to the questions. They blamed
that on bad Wi fi as well. Anyway, if you
want to buy a Peer, I don't know why it would,
but if you want to buy a Peer thirteen hundred
and sixty five dollars. They will be available at the
end of the month.

Speaker 14 (14:43):
That's the coolest thing since Elon broke the cyber track
that couldn't be broken.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's super funny. By the way, cruise season begins today.
The problem with the crew season, as far as tourism
in this country is concerned, is nowhere near The ships
are coming this year as have come in the past,
and what are we doing about that? What sort of
money is it going to bring into the economy. We
will have a look at this directly out of the news,
which is next. They're a news togs head be.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Setting me agenda and talking the big issues. The Mike
Hanting breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate covering all your real
estate needs News Dog's Head.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Be Like many of those hard to feel healthcare posts
are taken by overseas doctors on the H one B
visas their employers won't be paying one hundred thousand dollars.
Just another example of the policies where the downstream effects
are never considered.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
It.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's interesting to watch that and how it unfolds.

Speaker 8 (15:28):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
The terrorists must be loving all the pro Palestinian marches
and recognition of Palestinian State. They managed to get the
Western Wokies to do their bidding. Mike Chloe would be
very happy. And here reason I mentioned this test. I'll
tell you the moment Chloe would be very happy. Watties
hasn't made a profit for three years. This will lower
the prices at the check out. Allen, thanks for reminding me.
There's very good piece in the Herald over the weekend

(15:50):
that went into the background of what is and they've
struggled for the last three years. And it's quite a
detailed piece, well worth looking up if you didn't see
it twenty three to seven along the Kirk Memorial shortly
in the States. Meantime, back here, we've got the new
cruise season starting today. A rival forecasts. I'm sure you're
well aware of down one hundred and thirty nine fewer
that's for the North Island, one eighteen fewer for the

(16:11):
South Timaru bright Spot if you want one up from
nine to fourteen ships. Meantime, Auckland, they're claiming, can still
expect a twenty seven percent spending up lift when the
ships are in town. Any Dundas is with Auckland unlimited
and is with us any morning good morning. Make what
could be versus what is is this good or not?
What we're seeing the.

Speaker 15 (16:30):
Seats look, it's what we've got. And so we have
to make the most of every single passenger that comes off,
every single ship. And that's all about getting them into retail.
It's getting them on to buses out to various parts
of the city, out to Waihiki and so on. So
it's really important that we do our job to navigate
them off the ship, to get them into and to
spending some money into central Auckland.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Explain to me how you can have fewer ships but
more money spent.

Speaker 15 (16:55):
Well, not all passengers book pre book before they get off,
and so we've got a big job to do to
encourage passengers on ship to make sure they book attractions
when they know before they get off. And also we've
got a volunteer program we've run done on the waterfront,
which we hope will enable people to be motivated.

Speaker 16 (17:13):
To go and do more and spend more.

Speaker 15 (17:14):
So it's much more of a welcome friends, welcome to
Auckland and directing them in the right places.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Would you argue we have our act together in this
country when it comes to that part of the operation.
In other words, it's a slick operation. If they want
to get off, there's something there to do.

Speaker 17 (17:30):
Oh.

Speaker 15 (17:31):
Absolutely, every port in New Zealand has an incredible offering
and our satisfaction scores for New Zealand and many of
our ports are some of the highest ait cruise lines
fee around the world. So we do a good job.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I noticed there's a piece in the news there's some
sort of government intervention whereby there's a whole lot of
agencies working around a table and they're trying to coordinate
what we're doing in this country. Are you happy with
what we're trying to do by way of resurrecting or
getting this industry to where it should be.

Speaker 15 (17:56):
We've never had better support from government. So Minister Upton
is convened a sort of very senior level ministerial group
from Transport, our Associate Transport to Biosecurity, Immigration and Customs.
So we've never had that level of commitment from government.
So to sign the good.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
When will that flow through to more ships? Do you think?

Speaker 18 (18:17):
Well?

Speaker 15 (18:18):
Cruise lines are planning twenty seven twenty eight itineries. Now
we've got a lot of work to do to get
our regulations sorted to make things easy, make it easier
to do business in New Zealand. So twenty seven twenty
eight we might be back a little, but twenty eight
twenty nine we should be back. Looking at the similar
numbers that we had before. Covid Or during cover twenty
three to twenty four was our stellar season, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Is it just the cleaning of the boats that's the
problem or is it much more than that.

Speaker 15 (18:45):
We've got issues with just local regulation are and various
port charges in various cities and so on, and the
perception of cruise. So we've just got there's a whole
bunch of systems things we've got to get right and
get the message right the cruise as a you know,
the fastest growing set to tourism in the world before.
So we've got to get on with that.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Good stuff, Go well with it. I wish you the best.
And he done this. There's another very good example that's
part of why we're still back at eighty whatever percent
it is and what tourism used to be. We basically
shut ourselves on the foot nineteen away from seven good
Bye Malawi. That's an over statement. I'm moderately interested in Malarwi.
I told you this a couple of weeks ago. They're
certainly taking a long time to count the votes. Presidential

(19:23):
race is the one that everyone's interested in. Merica, who's
had a crack several times. He's up against a guy
called Chuck Weerer. One quarter of the votes are in
North Rika's winning. He's got fifty one percent of the
vote at the moment. The important thing about that is
if you get over fifty percent, it's a one rounder.
If you get below fifty percent, they'll go head to
head again. There's only nine of thirty six councils counted

(19:45):
so far, but fifty one to thirty nine downside for
me Areca. I don't want to be ages about this,
but he is eighty five, so it's hardly like youthful
exuberance is sweeping the landscape. But we'll see what happens.
Nineteen two.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
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Speaker 2 (20:05):
Be Mike Ben Here has anyone looked at energy charges
in association with these big companies closing down Ben They
most certainly have and are, and it's probably one of
the most underreported stories of this age. That's crippling the economy,
the gas crisis that's unfolding in front of our eyes,
and the cost of power in general. I'm reading a
very interesting piece over the week and Simon Watts, who's

(20:27):
the man who refuses to get up early in the morning,
but nevertheless he's drumming up some sort of reform and
he's talking the reform up in the electricity sector. And
apparently it's due before the end of the month, so
it's going to be fair. We're more on that after
seven o'clock this morning. Mike, what attractions does a cruise
passenger do in Wellington? It's not a bad question. Phil Zelandia.

(20:47):
I'd head straight to Zelandia cable car, of course, can't
not go to the cable car. Parliament. I'd have a
look at Parliament. That's probably me though, to paper to
paper as a must have. You've never been to departy,
you got to go. I'd also go see the bridge
before they pull it down. You might be one of
the last people to see the bridge. Six forty five
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

(21:10):
for New Zealand Business Oriental Parade that pavilion when Ben
Bailey opens at the Oriental Parade pavilion. That'll be nice
bucket fountain, of course, Cuba bucket fountain.

Speaker 11 (21:21):
Botanical gardens are nice.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Botanical gardens are fantastic. That glasshouse in there that they
were thinking of bowling but now saving.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
I got lost of the potentical guns.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Doesn't get lost at the botanical gardens? Are they botanic
gardens or botanical gardens? Richard Arnold's in the States, Good
morning to you, Good morning make There's a few gaps
in the front there, but reasonably big crowd.

Speaker 19 (21:42):
I guess, oh yeah, it's almost a capacity crowd. More
than one hundred thousand gathered at this Arizona Football Stadium
near Phoenix for the memorial now and the Way for
the murdered political activist Charlie Kirk. Security tight who's the
president and the vice president attending, were here from shortly
ilin musk or so is. It is eleven days since
the murder of Kirk, which has been seen by most

(22:05):
it's completely abhorrent. Alongside the grieving, we've also seen a
growing political debate, of course, over freedom of speech. That
is something Kirk himself might have focused on since he
spent so much of his time in debates. Proved me
wrong was his tagline, wasn't it. He was a high
profile advocate of challenging people and seeking to persuade them
politically and in terms of his Christian thinking, says one

(22:26):
of the women in the crowd right now.

Speaker 20 (22:29):
La good and righteous, and hopefully it'll hit people who
have negative flats about just our nation and maybe we
can argue down because.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's what we need.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well.

Speaker 19 (22:43):
Events, of course, led to the suspension of TV host
Tommy Kimmel after the head of the FCC, Brendan Carr,
seemed to call on television station owners to take action,
saying this could be dealt with in either quite easy
way or the hard way. That's been followed by a
social media by Trump. Coming into this memorial today where
he pressured his Attorney General Pam Bondi to prosecute his

(23:06):
political enemies, he wrote this in part quote Pam, I
have reviewed over thirty statements and posts saying that essentially
Sam or stories last time, all talk, no action, nothing
is being done. We can't delay any longer. It's killing
our reputation and credibility. They impitched me twice, they indicted
me five times, over nothing. Justice must be served now

(23:28):
in quote Pam Bonding and says she is cracking down.

Speaker 21 (23:32):
We will absolutely target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech.

Speaker 19 (23:40):
Well, a few Republicans are responding to some of this
amid a backlash by some Chimel supporters. Senator Around Paul
says the FCC chairs threats to the American ABC network
over Kimmel will quote absolutely inappropriate. The government's got no
business in it, he says. Republican Senator ten Ted Cruze
says of the FCC boss, but he.

Speaker 22 (24:00):
Said there is dangerous as hell. He says, we can
do this the easy way, or we can do this.

Speaker 11 (24:07):
The hard way.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (24:09):
And I got to say, that's right out of Good
Fellows that that that's right out of a mafioso coming
into a bar going nice by. You have here, It'd
be a shame of something happened.

Speaker 19 (24:19):
Ted, Hollywood not on the line. Keep your day job,
as they say Trump's reactions to this.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
I think Brenda Karr is a great American patriot.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
So I disagree with Ted Prison.

Speaker 19 (24:28):
That the Pentagon has just issued new restrictions for journalists
covering the Defense Department and requiring them to sign a
pledge not to report on any information unless it's been
authorized for release. Not the way of things is democratic.
Senator Chris Murphy, this is.

Speaker 18 (24:44):
One of the most dangerous moments America has ever faced.
We are quickly turning into a banana republic. This is
what happens in Iran, This is what happens in Cuba,
This is what happens in China and deeply repressive states
in which if you have the courage to stand up
and speech truth to power, you are silenced.

Speaker 19 (25:03):
Meantime, a judge is to smith Trump's fifteen billion dollar
lawsuit against The New York Times, ruling the courts are
not quote a platform to rage against an adversary. As
for one other Trump multi billion dollar lawsuit, the one
against the Murdoch Wall Street Journal for describing the alleged
birthday doodle for Jeffrey Epstein, the Murdoch feud might be easy.
Trump now saying Rupert and Lachlan Murdock are likely part

(25:23):
of the US investor group buying into TikTok.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Only made see you Wednesday, appreciate it, Richindal on state
so that I read about the TikTok thing over the weekend,
and the Americans may not be getting everything that they
want out of that particular the deal and the Chinese
might be winners. But I'll come back to that. Other
related matters, California's Governor Newsom has signed a bill and
they will ban local and federal law enforcement officers, including ice,

(25:48):
from wearing face masks while on duty. Comes in first
of January twenty six. Newsome calls it secret police roaming
the streets. We don't want it. So there are exceptions
for under cover agents, masks used to protect against disease
or wildfires, and tactical gear, but mainly it's the masks.
Thing is, they've had the Feds in town lately and
they didn't like it. Nine Away from seven the.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Mike asking breakfast with rainthrow B and use Tom's dead B.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Mike, solar eclipse happening in Canterbury. I'm very pleased for
you talk from a mother about the windover. I mean,
when are we going to stop this? This red warning
don't go out when people are telling you, the Met
Service are telling you not to go out, they've crossed
the line. In my humble opinion, if you don't want
to go out, then don't go out. But when the
met Service tell you not to go out, and of
course then they report with exuberance and and larmism two

(26:35):
hundred and twenty whatever it was at Mount Hut. Have
you ever been to Mount Hut. I've been to Mount
Hut quite a lot. Actually, it's a skifield and at
the top of Mount Hut you can get quite windy.
I don't know if you know this, but at the
top of the Southern Alps, if you stand on the
top of a really high point, you can get quite bruisy.
And the other point is that no one's there, so
it really doesn't matter what the wind was anyway.

Speaker 11 (26:54):
Jammy, the next time you get washed away in an atmospheric.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
River, you could Peter jack Peter Jackson War Museum, wet
To Workshop, Wellington History Museums, the Andyr Wildlife Park, Coldfield Arcade.
You missed that, glenk Coldfield Arcade.

Speaker 14 (27:09):
And of course you take a quick trip up Mountain Vick.
Well done, that doesn't You don't really pay anybody to
do that though, do you?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, you don't both, but it's an experiential thing. Passengers
can join a protest as there's a Winge March every day.
Nice advice cruise Wellington. We're doing a five day New
Zealand cruise in December. Here why why would you cruise
around New Zealand Wellington? Wetter studio fair enough? And food?

Speaker 11 (27:34):
Well the food, big fan of food.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Can't arre you with food five minutes away from seven Well?

Speaker 3 (27:42):
The inns are the ouse. It's the fiz with business favor.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I get time. Remind me to tell you about the
Disney cruise. I saw a video of this Disney cruise
the other day. It is the most ridiculous thing I've
ever seen. Survey Time comes from fintech Riverlute tells us
forty two percent of us say our financial situation has
gotten worse over the last financial year. There'll be the
power bills. Women worse off Forty five percent say the
situation's worse, compared to thirty nine percent of men. I

(28:09):
don't see how that works, because most men and women
are together, aren't they? And you know what I mean,
you should be feeling the same. I have fifty four
percent of it finding it tough to manage money. Aren't
we all age one? Well, no, we're not. Actually, it's
only fifty four percent. So when I say, aren't we
all no, forty six percent of us. Seventy one percent
of the young people twenty five to thirty four year
old say they face challenges. Sixty three percent of the

(28:31):
eighteen to twenty four same thing. It's not all bad though,
forty one percent. So they're now diligently building an emergency fund.
Sounds dramatic, doesn't It sounds like you're standing by for
a big wind at the top of Mount Hut. So
just in case two hundred and twenty k's comes through
Mount Hut and no one's there, you can go, Well,
don't worry. I've got my emergency fund.

Speaker 11 (28:50):
And a go bag and a go bag.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Most of most of those doing this are raged between
twenty five and forty nine, So maybe we're not bad
savers after all. Good I got times the Disney Cruise, right,
So I'm watching this. I'm an ab geek and I
watch a lot of aeroplane reviews. But the same guy
does the airplane reviews, did the Disney Cruise? The other day?
Guy paid forty thousand dollars US forty thousand US to

(29:14):
get the top room on a Disney cruise, and it's
quite a big room. So he's got a spar pull
on the deck and everything. But that still doesn't stop
you from going down to the restaurant for the Mexic
His first night was the Mexican Food and there must
have been somewhere between two and a half and three
thousand people in the Mexican restaurant. And his girlfriend's wearing
the button the Mickey Ears. So you're paying forty thousand dollars,

(29:35):
you're putting on your Mickey Ears, and you're eating bad
tacos along with three thousand other fat Americans.

Speaker 11 (29:41):
That's pretty fun, unbelievable. Forty fun Police forty.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Now, if I'm into the show today to be honest, to.

Speaker 11 (29:56):
Get Francesca back in, you can do the next couple
of hours.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Maybe I will see if I'm here after the news, which,
as it turns out, for is next.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
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Speaker 1 (30:05):
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Speaker 2 (30:13):
Togs Head be seven past seven to more money announced
for our hospitals. This is not new money. It was
in the budget. We just find out where exactly it's going.
One hundred millions been set aside for upgrades. There are
twenty one projects, everything from new ed spaces, trans at
lunge is extra parking. We also got twenty million of
boost frontline staffing. Doctor Buzzburroll is the rural hospital doctor
and chair of the General Practice Group, and it is
with us Buzz morning.

Speaker 23 (30:34):
Good morning, Mike. Always got to talk to you, how very.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Well indeed, is it touch up stuff, there's something transformational
happening here, or we just don't know yet.

Speaker 23 (30:42):
I think all of the above. I think it would
be wise for anybody to welcome any expenditure in health
and so it's got to be appreciated. However, you are right,
it is really very touched. That's that one hundred million dollars.
I believe there's twenty one projects. That's five million per
project over two years. That's roughly a modest villa in

(31:05):
Mount Eed, and per project, it's not going to change
the face of the world. We're certainly in the primary sector.
What we're really looking forward to is an announcement that
there's a serious, serious investment in primary care as opposed
to touching up the secondary sector. Mindful we're coming up
to an election, so of course investment in primary care
is not sexy. Investment in secondary care is more operations

(31:28):
are much more exciting, them better control of the blood pressure.
So that can understand why the announcement is made. But
really it's touched that stuff. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Part of what lux has always argued, as we spend
thirty three billion dollars in health, is there an argument
there at all that says that's enough. It's more about
the quality of the expenditure as it is about the amount.

Speaker 23 (31:49):
A bit of both. The quality is questionable. We seem
to be still top heavy investing in the secondary sector.
And it's an old formula now, but if you spend
a dollar in primary care, you say ten dollars and
the secondary sector somehow that investment always seems to be
lost with successive politicians, and I've seen that over the
last thirty years. But if we're spending that much, it's

(32:09):
still less than the OECD were number twenty one, I
believe in the OECD list of what we spend on
health compared to the twenty people above us. So even
though it seems like a lot of money, it's still
not enough and it clearly is not enough, and certainly
even in the secondary sector, we've got I think last
year eighty odd thousand rejections from the secondary sector of

(32:30):
referrals from the primary sector because there was not capacity
to meet them, i e. People who need care are
not getting it, and don't forget that inverse care or
people who need care the most the least. And we're
a fantastic example of that in this country. That needs
to be reversed so that that is re billion. It's
a not enough and b wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Despent Buzz, appreciate your time, doctor Buzzberrel Rural Hospital Loft
a chair of the General Practice. It's coming up to
minutes past seven. Talk to the Prime Minister about it shortly.
Is as Trak turning out to be not that fast?
Taranaki's seen two hundred and fifteen groups having their say
on this VTMC bed mining project that was always going
to be controversial. Of course, the advisory Panel's gone ahead

(33:10):
though and appointed a former Forest and Bird legal advisor
to oversee legal issues. Now Shane Jones is the Resources
managed Our minister runs back with us morning, Hey morning,
So so far in fast Track we have one cleared project,
which is the Auckland Port Extension. Is this the sort
of pace you were expecting.

Speaker 16 (33:28):
Oh, I got to be careful. It doesn't turn into
farcical track. Obviously fast means accelerate. I was surprised, and
we've got to be very careful because US politicians always
get into the neck when we talk about judicial things.
But I was astounded that this forest and bird lawyer
has been appointed as a specialist advisor there in Tallaanaky
and the panel. No doubt, we'll have to watch very

(33:48):
carefully whether or not that taints the process. But more
astounding to me was that since the Taranaki Mona, the
mountain has been given legal personhood, the panel has to
say to consult the mountain as to whether or not
this thirty kilometer initiative out of the coastline of Taranaky
to dig up the ironsteinds should be considered. I mean,

(34:11):
it's unbelievable. I knew that we were going to recognize
Taranaki Mountain, but I never thought that the mountain would
either puff or Belgian tell us what it thinks.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Be very interesting to see what it has to say.
Didn't you appoint the panel?

Speaker 16 (34:24):
No Sadly the system is that I'm not in control
of the fast tracking may recle. I think ministers should
have made all the decisions. But that was fine, that
made a different decision. I've delivered the outcome.

Speaker 23 (34:37):
But look, you know.

Speaker 16 (34:38):
We're on the precipice of a resource renaissance and we
are still dealing with embedded forces, whether it's in the community,
these periwinkle hupoos or these greenies who could tastrifize everything.
We're dealing with a substantial reduction and earnings, not only
from manufacturing but from oil and gas, and that driven
by the juvenile decision that just sind the meat to

(34:58):
cancel the industry. So we need industries. There's a Sahara
desert scale of industry off the coast of tatamuky And
we just want a fair process where technology, rationalism, science
delivers an outcome.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Exactly when I say you appointed the panel, I didn't
mean you personally, meant you the government. Didn't the government
appoint the panels? No, no, no, the panel.

Speaker 16 (35:18):
Well, we have a we have a situation where we
have some convenience embedded and side the EPA an organization
with people, so not the him or her They them,
I mean that sort of culture as we routed out
of the whole state.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But but how come you guys, I mean, what's the point.
Here's your issue with the polls, and you will have
seen the polls last week. When it comes to people
blaming you for the economy, one of your ideas, one
of your better ideas, is fast track. And fast track
that turns out isn't fast. Why aren't you in charge
of the panel and get this thing rolling? Why isn't
it fast?

Speaker 16 (35:50):
Shane, Well, we're about to make a whole lot of amendments,
mister Bishop and I because we had the housing project
up and or installed by some ritical economists. So obviously
there are elements that are not turning out as we
thought it should make. But I want everyone to be reminded.
I was the guy who campaigned with Winston for ministers
to make all of these decisions. I feared that once

(36:13):
it went into the bureaucracy and these grandees, they find
all sorts of reason to elevate inanimate inanimate objects like
now the mountain has to say, thirty kilometers off the coastline.
By the way, that mountain apparently came from Lake people
when it fell out of its lover over there. So look,
we can't have this mythology and all these lizards and
various other critics overwhelming our need to grow jobs and

(36:34):
save the economy.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
No, indeed not. But you've got an election next year
and you've got to get on with it. Appreciate it.
Shane Jones' Resources Minister Chris likes and once again on that,
and I think after us save in thirty thirteen minutes
past seven passing, I might give you for a Monday,
but having a gig, yes, I'm glad you're enjoying it. Mike.
At school holidays, I'm surprised you here at all, So
you got to go to get We've got to sort
this out once and for all. Once upon a time,
it might be suggested I might have taken a few

(36:56):
school holidays off, but I don't anymore. I barely been
away all so stop stop stop has it. It's true
I take an extended break at Christmas, but that's only
because that's when I get my plastic surgery done, and
so I need the scars to heal before I come
back to work. So that's the only reason. Otherwise I'll
be there the whole time. Mike, you're so out of

(37:17):
touch on food on cruise ships. Look at the video,
trek Trendy, look at the video. Look at the slop
he's eating in the Mexican restaurant with three thousand other people.
Not out of touch, he's eating the burritos. Go to Bellamy's, Mike,
open the post another good idea. Actually it's open to
the public on certain days Bellamy's and Wellington, so we've
done Wellington Tourism's job for them. This morning, fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
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Liam Lawson. Will have more after right. Seventeen past seven
got an issue brewing apparent around our luxury rental market
and the looming foreign buyers changes. So agents telling us
they're turning away half of the high net worth travelers

(38:07):
because demand outstrip supply. Now Greg Owen's the co founder
of a company called State Lucks Accommodation and is with
us Greg morning, good morning mate. Has this been building?
Has this been building for a while? I mean, as
far as I know, there's plenty of houses and places
like Central a Tiger, you know, if you want a
flash place to stay.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Yeah, that's correct, there are, but more and more of
these luxury travelers that are coming to New Zealand are
looking for extended stays in Auckland. In Auckland seems to
be a real lack of luxury combination that's available.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
And when you say extended stay, what's that mean?

Speaker 7 (38:42):
You know, you're from from three weeks up to twelve months. Well,
the individuals are coming to stay for but that's.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Just a rental twelve months. That's just a rental house,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
It is it is, But it's not just in that case.
And since that, these these people are looking for fully
furnished properties, they're looking for residences that go beyond your
standard typical rental property.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
The only place you would get like that is somebody
who's got a flashouses on sabbatical overseas for a period
of time, isn't it. I mean, no one in this
country owns a twelve to fifteen million dollar house and
leaves it fully furnished and then just rent it out.

Speaker 7 (39:20):
You'll be surprised there are a number that do that.
But yes, a lot of the time, a lot of
these people they're looking, they've relocated, they've got their house
that's just idlenk sitting there, and is an opportunity to
be able to contributed to the demand that's required at
the moment in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Where's the foreign buyer thing coming? Are Are they potentially
going to start snapping these places up and therefore they'll
never be for rent?

Speaker 7 (39:45):
Well, that's the other option I for you having the
foreign buyers and people that are buying when they do
come here. If they do they buying New Zealand, they're
not likely to be staying here for twelve months, but
they may look to be able to rent their property
out as well, and to be able to provi that
shortage of accommodation for these luxury kiss that are coming.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I suppose this is all good news that there is demand.
Are they mainly Americans predominantly?

Speaker 7 (40:10):
We're seeing inquiries coming predominantly from America and Europe, the
United States in Germany are the two areas that we're
seeing significant increase.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
From good So is their demand Here's this is a
bullish story to tell, I think.

Speaker 7 (40:24):
So look, there is demand, there is real increase. We've
seen probably double the amounts of inquiries coming through Compete
to this time last year. The challenge we face is
that there is a real shortage, so we can't put
these individuals into the residents that thereafter, particularly in Auckland,
and so they're generally looking to stay in your larger

(40:47):
hotels and unfortunately with the hotels, you've got hotels that
are owned internationally and so largely the profits are going
offshore for hotel owners.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Interesting insight, Good on your Greek, appreciated Greg owner Owen,
who's the co founder of stay luxA read over the
weekend Sydney Morning Herald. They were handing out there were
born again the greatest revamps and reinventions and travel this year,
and top of their list was the reinvention or the
referb of hook A Lodge no less in New Zealand.
So it's getting a good a good buzz internationally, at
least in Australia. So let's hope it works well for

(41:18):
them seven.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
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Speaker 2 (41:29):
Talk h ME seven twenty three. We were apparently about
to hear about major electricity sector of form. This is
coming from the minister. Final touches apparently being sought. But
the announcement set, he says, before the end of the
month and given today is the twenty second. That means
pretty much this week. I guess we'll we'll inquire with
the Prime Minister shortly. A couple of things. Simon Watts
calls them fundamental. He refers to the last time it

(41:49):
was this major as being in the nineties. So the
question I would have thought is are they going to
split the gent tailors. I mean, the government's history would
suggest no. They've been talking big on banks and supermarkets.
They've made plenty of an ounces, of course, but little
has actually happened. Why would this be any different? So
the government has also argued rightly that business likes consistency.
When the last lot talked about onslow, for example, in
the lake and the hole in the ground, the industry

(42:11):
stopped investing, So we'd splitting the big players, not cause
the same sort of trouble. But in the report that's
driving the government's thinking. We have seen an astonishing increase
in your basic power bill. Now, in twenty twenty one,
collectively we spent four point four billion dollars on power
any year four point four billion. Next year, it was
four point five. By the time we got to twenty

(42:31):
twenty three, it's four point eight. By last year it
was five point two. So it's gone from four point
four to five point two billion dollars, and you wonder
why we don't have any spare cash. On average, the
basic household power bill since twenty twenty three has gone
up four hundred dollars each and every year, So we
can explain some of it renewables. Obviously we need investment,
but we still haven't closed that gap. We still panic

(42:52):
in winter. And that's before you get to all the
AI and the data centers that are presumably going to
suck a stride. By the way, on the renewalb front,
Contact Energy are looking at pulling more water out of
Lake Harwire. Well that so then get past the locals
who of course hate it, and in that as part
of the New Zealand problem, isn't it nimbiism. You can't
moan about the bills and also moan about the solutions.
Everyone wants utopia but doesn't want to pay for it

(43:15):
or have any of it happen in their backyard, so
stand by. Maybe it's fundamental, Maybe it's a government looking
to spin some more pr I don't know. We'll find
out shortly. I think though, what we all agree on
is we need more power and the damage the current
scenario is doing to the economy cannot go on. Asking
Like listening to you through my headphones at the Wellington
Airport terminal, you made me spit out in the coffee
laughing at the plastic SURGERI I don't know why you're

(43:36):
laughing at my plastic surgery.

Speaker 11 (43:37):
That's not very polite.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
I mean the amount of money plastic surgery isn't cheap.
I don't know if you're aware of this, but plastic
surgery isn't cheap. But you've got to get them.

Speaker 11 (43:45):
You obviously couldn't afford the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
No, and so some of it's been experimental. I started
going to Asia a number of years ago because it
was like the dentist, it's a lot cheaper to do
it in places like Turkey. By the way, speaking of
the dentist, I was at the High Genus last week
and she was very excited. I didn't name it because
I didn't want to overwhelm it because she's just a
small operation. But she was telling me how many people
have worked out who it was and business has boomed

(44:08):
because of it, and it's fantastic, so I'm very pleased
about that. By the way, speaking of things, I liked
Supercar Show yesterday or over the weekend in Auckland. Record
numbers of people turned out and record money was raised
for Starships, so that's encouraging. If you couldn't go, didn't go, whatever,
there's a video on YouTube. Just look up Starship, Supercar
Show whatever it's on and Sean summerbil Do sort of

(44:30):
in charge of it. He's done the video. It's a
great video. It's got all the cars, you can see them.
It's just fantastic to watch. And the other thing I
stumbled on by accident was Farm Made yesterday, which was
in Minnesota and they've been doing farm aid for years
and it was streamed. CNN had some sort of association
with it. But a couple of observations Neil Young is shocking.

(44:50):
He's always been shocking ish, but he was particularly shocking yesterday.
Bob Dylan was REMI for I don't know what I
was expecting. I wasn't expecting much, but he was brilliant.
He's like still in tune, still on form, still in
control of what's going on. Willy at the age of
I guess he's in his early nineties. I'm in his

(45:12):
late nineties now, isn't he is? He's ninety something. The
voice was there or thereabouts at times. Other times he
was really good, but his guitar playing is phenomenal. So
if you missed that because you didn't even know it
was on the night Better ninety two a year ago,
he's doing well for ninety two. Christopher luxem He's the

(45:33):
Prime Minister. He's next.

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Speaker 2 (45:45):
Three minutes away from export after of course, with Andrew
serving Jason Prime. Meantime, being a Monday morning, the Prime
Minister is will us a very good morning to you.
Morning might get to be Yeah, do you feel a
bit in battled given what happened last week. Well, like,
I don't know where that all came from. I mean,
I know a fame from zero point came from zero
point nine to stick to two growth.

Speaker 24 (46:02):
But I think you know the reality is, you know,
it's been, no doubt about it, very difficult quarter. You
and I talked about it. We could feel it, you
can see it. And you know that is a function
of just uncertainty. Cause with those Trump tariffs that period
of time previous six months, we were growing strongly. We're
growing again now we'll grow even stronger as we go
into Christmas, and we've got a lot of things going on,
so I think, you know, look, I know it's difficult

(46:25):
and tough times. I feel like we've got the right
economic plan. We've got relief for tax relief, we've got
interest rate relief, got inflation relief happening. That's helped primary
industries certainly they're having record years.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
That's great.

Speaker 24 (46:36):
We know we've got work to do in Auckland particularly
and Wellington as well.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Okay, just tick this off for me. Will we be
hearing about the Reserve Bank government this week could be
very shortly, Okay, And you know who it is. Yes,
you're you're personally happy with him her, Yes, and we'll
be transformational for the bank and so much and we'll
have a really good governor. Yeah, okay, is there electricity
significant electricity reform coming from Simon? What this week?

Speaker 24 (47:00):
It'll be before the end of this quarter, so he's
got a weekend a bit.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yep, okay, And as when we say substantiup, he's talking
about something as big as you know, hasn't We haven't
seen this since the nineties. How big is well?

Speaker 24 (47:11):
I mean, there's a whole bunch of questions around electricity
and energy. You know that we actually should have abundant,
affordable electricity energy in a country like this. We've got
heaps and natural resources to be able to do exactly that.
He's thinking very deeply about thermal and firming capacity because actually,
you know, we need gas. We need gas for probably
the last ten to twelve percent of our energy mix

(47:32):
going forward for some time. We're uniquely the only country
I know moving away from domestic gas to Indonesian you know,
imported cold at the moment. So that's insane. So he's
got to deal with that issue. We've got to make
sure that we've got the gent tailors able to access
you know, contingent liability, we've got late capacity, which they're
doing that through fast track. We've seen you've seen gent Tailors,

(47:53):
for example, come out and say, we've said to them,
you must be able to sell to those other twenty
smaller companies at the same rate you sell to you
and retailing arm which is quite quite ballsy sort of move.
So he'll put together a whole package of things. So
this is transformational, Well, I think it's about dealing with
the challenges we've got. You can call it. You'll make
your own determination when you think it's transformational. I think

(48:14):
he's got a comprehensive energy package that actually is going
to deal with issues that we've got. Right now, are
you splitting the gent tailors? You know, I wait for
him to talk to you about what he's proposing. So
you are, I say to you, we feel like we've
done a lot of that in the last few weeks
when we said to the gent tailors, you sell the
same rate that you sell to you.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Not necessarily, because my only argument against that would be
that part of the argument you ranted on Onslow is
that if you don't have consistency. Ye, you've got upset
in the market. That's why G. Taylors would he's coming out.

Speaker 24 (48:43):
So there's massive clarity because what we want is those
gent tailors to be investing significantly in generation. Part of
Onslow's problem was that that was sitting out there and
as a result, they weren't clear whether they were going
to invest or not invest because Onslow was sitting there
and that would have been a bit of a problem
for their investment. We've made that really clear. Onslow's God,
we expect them to step up their investment pack.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
So you mentioned the lakes and access to the lakes,
so there's a massive fight over lake how we are
at the moment. Of course, no one locally wants it
and it's just a scrap. So what do you do
in a country that wants a solution but doesn't want
it in their backyard.

Speaker 24 (49:15):
Well, as I as I said, we've basically made fast
track available to the gent tailors. They've put put applications
and around all of that. I don't want to get
ahead of those decisions obviously that would come through that process.
But you know the reality is we're not going to
have lights turn out in this country and what we
went through last year was unacceptable and it was a
function of poor energy policy that had been in place

(49:35):
for some time and we've got to fix that.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
And it still is problematic though. I mean, we can't
underplay the problems with gas.

Speaker 24 (49:41):
Yeah, no exactly. I mean gas is a real charge
because essentially the chilling effect of the ending the oil
and gas ban, what that did for international investors. If
you've got hundreds of millions of dollars tied up an
investment here and all of a sudden overnight, it was
total that what didn't land well for New Zealand with
the investor community in the area of gas production. No,
So that's why we put the two hundred million dollars

(50:02):
aside to say we'll co invest to give you some
certainty with repelling the oil and gas band. We've got
some other support in there, so they actually know that. Actually,
if you want to come to Zelean and has anyone
actually fronted you's there's a few that are interested in
sort of talking that through. But we also need to
even look at things like importation potentially of gas as well.
You know, I've been talking about that for over a year. Yeah, sure,

(50:23):
but it's quite tricky to do to get the infrastructure
in place to support something like that. But you know,
in the medium term that's something we should be looking at.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Okay. So Shane Jones was on the program between seven
and seven thirty was he's already started as campaigning. So
what I what? I didn't realize He's got problem with
the sand mining in Taranaki. They've gone and appointed a
forest and bird lawyer and this is the panel that's
looking at this. Why didn't you guys appoint the panel?
He's arguing that it was done by somebody else he
campaigned or they New Zealand first campaigned and you guys

(50:52):
stood against it. Why is it you being held up
by these panels? Because tell me how many fast track
projects have been ticked off?

Speaker 24 (50:58):
I think there's two that have come through with only
had one. We've got the warfs come through, we had
the big residential development come through.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
And Nelson ok so it's not as fast residential.

Speaker 24 (51:08):
One up around it, and there's about eight or so
that pals. Well, I mean, we're gonna we are looking
at what's fast track, whether it can actually make it
even faster, and whether it's actually working.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
In the way. It's not fast. Two is not fast.
No no.

Speaker 24 (51:20):
But but if you think about it, the legislation only
got passed in the first quarter of this year. Takes
a six month process to work through. You know, it's
what we've always said around fast track. So you're happy
with it that well, I mean I just look at
the Wolf's decision. That was going to be five years
under the old RMA. We did that within six months.
That's about when the projects also launched.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Understand that. But I mean, yeah, that's a great decision,
and that's what we want to see more of that.
I just want to see more fast track decisions. And
he's already complaining you can't get You've got the Forest
and Bird lawyer and holding everything up and they're consulting
with the Mountain.

Speaker 24 (51:50):
Both Jones and Bishop are the two that are actually
putting the policy together for the government. They work very
closely together on that. They're both coming forward with legislation
and the next next few well before Christmas, that will
actually speed up fast.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
So you're going to blow the panels up. Have you
done something wrong with the panels?

Speaker 24 (52:05):
Well, I think there's things about process where we sort
of you know, have we got the Panel Constitution right
in terms of is it just old RMA folks that
are still thinking in the old way when we're actually
saying as a government, we have clearly prioritized economic growth
is what we want to be doing. But equally there's
other things like you know, councils, you know, making capacity
available for once a project's fast tracked, will do the

(52:27):
water services get into that residential development because we've said
that's it goes, so let's make sure it does actually happen.
So there's just you know, it's natural there's some tweaks.
If there things aren't working the way they are intended,
we want to make sure that we're speaking of and adjusting.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Sure, because the politics of this, you're going to run
out a runway if you're into next year you're still
trying to tell me that fast tracks, fast tracking, you
haven't got any you know what I'm saying. I mean,
you've got to work for you. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 24 (52:48):
But there's there's three things on that planning law and
I think you know, you take a step back, you say,
right at the end of the first turn, what will
we have done? We will have done RMA reform. We did,
we killed one. We introduced fast track to put the
defibrillators on and try and break the system and mucket,
you know, and get it moving. By the end of
this year, we'll have our first reading of the RMA
permanent solution in place as well. We'll continue a fast track. Obviously,

(53:09):
we will have done educational reform. We've made a big
investment in defense, and we've done a lot of work
on law and order, for example. So I think there'll
be some really good things that we're doing, and you'll
see an economy that's continuing to grow.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
And I reluctantly ask you about this because I'm so
over but I watched you and your post cabinet press
conference last week. Can you explain to me what is
it about the media that are so fixated with this
Palestine thing? Because I looked at the questions and they
almost seem bored until we got to Palestine and they
went mentally.

Speaker 24 (53:39):
Yeah, it was a good part of the postcab Look,
I mean, the thing on Palestine's state recognition is there
are friends of ours that have done it. There are
friends of ours, I get it, but we will make
our own decision. But the bigger issue is, actually it's
not whether you're pro Palestine of pros right, it's actually
about pro peace and irrespective the decision and we make
ultimately on state recognition, bigger issue is actually, what the

(54:01):
hell are you going to do to actually get that
region stable, calm and actually peaceful again, because that's in
our interest. Now we're a long way away from it.
We have very little to do with the Palestine and
Israel in terms of trade or investment or those kinds
of things. But you know the answer is Hummas are
a terrorist organization. They need to release hostages. Equally, Israel

(54:21):
has to respect international law and protect civilians and make
sure there's humanitarian aid and assistance and get out of
military action. More military action is not helping as you
are seeing, is.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
This your fault? In other words, if you'd made a
decision one way or another, I don't care earlier on,
you wouldn't be getting this fixed.

Speaker 24 (54:36):
We no, Look, we're just being I mean, we're trying
to be transparent about it. You know, you could ask
the question, should we just sat on a hand, you know,
sat quietly on it and just announced the final decision.
But you know, I felt it was important, and Winston
felt it was important. We both felt that way that
we should be transparent and say, look, you know, we've
had a series of preliminary discussions. It's a complex issue,
but we want to do it in a judicious, cautious,

(54:57):
proper kind of way.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
What literally is he doing right now in New York
that's going to change your mind one way? I mean,
I'm assuming the decisions made.

Speaker 24 (55:04):
Well, we've had we've had preliminary conversations. He the Middle
East is pretty dynamic situation, and it's quite right that
he's not.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
That dynamic well when they both hate each other in
the bay, blowing each other up and killing each other.

Speaker 24 (55:16):
And that's why that's why I say that main event
has actually got to be dealing with that stuff rather
than recognitions. An interesting issue in itself. Will work our
way through that obviously, but in fairness, you know, it's
right that he actually is taking time, is considering it.
He's listening to other prospective So you're telling.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Me right here, right now in New York on a
Sunday afternoon, as it is there, he's still considering when
that decision has not literally we.

Speaker 24 (55:40):
Have a preliminary decision which we will look to confirm
and also continue to monitor developments through the course of
this week. We'll make a final cabinet decision towards the
end of the week, and then he'll give his address
at the UN Generally.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
So I'm almost out of time. You won't know about this,
but just to take away and think about it, the
NB looked at peach dumping peaches to his last week.
Chinese were dumping peaches in this country. They found that
to be true, and they somehow worked out that it
didn't affect the domestic market. How can you dump something
and it doesn't affect the market.

Speaker 24 (56:11):
That's that's I want to look into that because we
can you do that because the next next thing I'm
knowing is what he is cutting peach trees.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
They're not buying local peach exactly.

Speaker 24 (56:19):
And so yeah, we've been very aggressive on wto claims.
You might have seen the one we had with Canada
under the CPTPP in particular. But where we have those claims,
which we were, where there we are free traders and so.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
We've got a bit on the surface. How can him
be look at something see dumping and then go, well,
it doesn't affect anyone well it seems weird.

Speaker 24 (56:38):
Yes, it does seem mean, and that's an issue and
a decision for Todd Mclair's a Minister of Trade who
prosecutes those WTO cases when we see evidence of dumping.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
I'll be asking about this next week. Okay, what else
you going to be asking about?

Speaker 10 (56:52):
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Speaker 2 (56:53):
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Speaker 1 (56:55):
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It be Gonn a letter from a person who wrote
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the greatest story about New Zealand I've heard in many
a long year. And I'll get to that in just
a couple of moments, if not after eight thirty this morning.
Our reference to the Prime Minister, Lake arewa So the
locals in the region, are they not quote unquote going

(57:23):
down without a fight? The company concerned, the Contact Energy
as in the power company, want to reduce the lake's
minimum operating level from three thirty eight meters to three
thirty six above sea level, and extreme circumstances drop it
as low as three thirty to boost renewable energy they
don't want it. Three hundred people packed into a public
meeting and they don't want it. So you tell me.

(57:45):
If you're after the renewable story and you don't like
importing coal, you tell me what is the answer if
every idea they come up with is going to be
rejected by a local community around the country, because it
doesn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
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Speaker 2 (58:04):
They'd be Mike, where are the Greens on the nimbis
who hold up renewable solutions? Not about question, Mike, imagine
if I'm not turbu. Eight twenty twenty three, the UN
Security Council voted unanimously to condemn mass for war crimes,
demanded the immediate returnable hostages in order Kata too extraduite
Hamas's leadership to the International Criminal Court and Hay of course,
is never going to work. Mike, why are we so
scared to recognize Palestine? Well, I don't think anyone's scared

(58:25):
to recognize Palestine. It just makes no sense. And I'm
not arguing against it. I'm saying, is what what have
you achieved by doing it what literally changed? Don't you
want to fix the place? Don't you want it sort
or don't you want the hate to stop? And does
recognize in Palestine? Do any of that? No, it doesn't.
Mikey doesn't get it. The public will only care about
what they've done, not the talk. I tend to agree.
That's why my suggesting was the runway is short, in

(58:46):
other words, saying we've done some Arima reform, and we
passed this piece of legislation and will be up to
the first reading of this. No one cares. No one cares.
People look at the power bill, they look at the
insurance bill, they look at their interest rates, they look
at their job security. They'll look at their kids and
scis that's what counts to voters, always has, always will.
You've got to appeal to Middle New Zealand. Mike recognizing
Palestine is the morally right thing to do. Is it

(59:07):
for what purpose? To achieve?

Speaker 8 (59:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
To fix?

Speaker 7 (59:10):
What?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
To change what? And I do not believe for one
second Winston Peters is sitting in New York having some
late breaking, last minute meetings to somehow convince them will
swing in one way or another. It's been a coalition issue.
In other words, what national think about doing it is
not what ICT think about, which is not what New
Zealand first wanted to think about. And so that's why
it's become a bigger problem than really it should have.

(59:32):
We should not be recognizing a state that doesn't exist. Well,
it's the point. That's the point of it. That's what
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Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
It happened justin with a couple of mimes. Ago Eagles
are playing the Rams today. The Rams were about to
win because they had a kick with three seconds to
go and that would have been the victory, but the
kicker was blocked, so the Eagles wins. The Eagles go
three ds as opposed to the Rams being three ends up,
so the Rams are now two and one. Andrew Sevil
Jason Pine both we us fellows. Good morning. Let me
tell you how Jason was watching some AFL over the weekend.

(01:01:51):
Two time semi finals both had one hundred thousand people
at the mcg I mean that's ticket sales, isn't it packed?

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:01:57):
Amazing, amazing. I mean nozar All still rules the roost
and Victoria in particular, doesn't it. But there are teams
from outside there in the well. We've got the Brisbane
Lions into their third straight final. But the crowds, the
size of the crowds, You're right, Mike, just absolutely incredible.
And they get those in the regular season. You know,
this is a these were preliminary finals, but you get

(01:02:18):
you get one hundred thousand of the amazing games.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
It's a religious team.

Speaker 12 (01:02:23):
Which team do you support? Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I used to support the D's, the Mighty D's, but
my dad lived in Australia and I used to go
across and visit him and he was a member of
the D's and we'd go along to the mcg And
that was back in the days. Barassi Ron Barrassi, you
remember that name. It was like a major anyway point
was they were they were the team. But they have
not been the team for a very very very very
very long period of time.

Speaker 12 (01:02:45):
So now you've hitched your trailer to another team like
you do with the un Fouler.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Still support the D's now, I've said the Rams and
the Cowboys, Rams and the Cowboys have one team and
stick with it. Now, I don't think that's true. Storm
Sharks Andrew Storm Sharks, Broncos, Panthers, the Panthers story. Surely,
if it goes all the way, that's as good as
it gets.

Speaker 12 (01:03:06):
Ever, isn't this They never looked like losing yesterday. What
you've got to also remember, Mike, is that the Sharks
were outside the top four as well, so what they've
done is brilliant. Also, they played so well against Canberra
in Canberra. I think the Raid is that extra point,
golden point time game. Suck the life out of them
from last week. Great football, great football to one the way,

(01:03:29):
the way the way Penrith uses the ball. I think,
like I said last week, I hope the All Blacks
are watching the Broncos. I hope they're watching the Panthers
last night. The way they used the ball, draw and
pass getting through various types of defense that the Panthers
were just outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I can see the Panthers beating the Broncos. I can't
see the Sharks beating the Storm.

Speaker 21 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I agree agree Panthers. I think it's Panthers storm.
I think Panthers will win it. That's crazy, you know,
a fifth straight one. They will last.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
From where they came. That's how to be a champion,
isn't it? Ivan Cleary, he's such a likable guy too.
The Ranford I know we're getting to Liam and I
want to get to Lim. I just wanted took up
all the weird stuff I happened to stumble across over
the weekend. I mean that Ranfall is shield challenge Andrew
another great game, I mean what I mean? Come on?
I mean, how excited that that four times the thing
swapped and it's a tight game. It's fantastic. And if

(01:04:20):
you look at the table you think Canniby is thrashing everybody.
It's just simply not true, is it.

Speaker 12 (01:04:24):
No, it's not. I think they were up by sixteen
seventeen points, but not long to go in that game.
And Otago, the Otago team has really played well most
of the season. I think I was second on the table, Mike,
So not a massive mess of shock, but Canniby at
home hard to beat. Looking forward then to Donner's next
weekend where North Harbor winless.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Yeah, but who Harbour playing yesterday.

Speaker 12 (01:04:49):
Did you see that guy they got I reckon They
got sawn off at the end by a couple of
penalty calls and they lost to Northam Jick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, that crowd that was that the Albany thing, wasn't.
I mean there are four people there or five.

Speaker 12 (01:05:02):
It's a shame. It's a shame. Look, they haven't won
a game all season and the crowds have stayed away.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 21 (01:05:06):
I don't targo team Mike, keep an eye on that
Lucas Casey, the open side flanker. He got two tries
in that game. One was running like a midfield back.
Big raps on this kid, Lucas Casey. Lookout from the
Highlanders next year.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
When Jason, when Jason Pine names the name, you got
to que and I on him.

Speaker 12 (01:05:25):
You watch his career derail. Now that's seepy put on
the Cannbury wingle fullback. I think it was wow, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
I got to talk about Liam Moore in the moment.
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Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Jason Pine Andrews sellers think about the tracks over the weekend, sad.
I don't like street circuit, But if I had to
name the best street circuit, I think Bark Who's probably
with its big straight in its old town and castles
and stuff. But I mean what Liam did today is
ye is fantastic.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
Absolutely some of those some of those right angle turns,
and then there's a there's a there's a section around
near the castles and that's so tight only barely fits
one car.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Seven meters wide, that corner in the cars two meters wide.
So by the time you're doing, you know, one hundred
and eighty k's into that, you've got to be.

Speaker 12 (01:06:26):
At amazing, amazing drivings. And I watched most of that.
I don't know if you did. But the way he
held off some of those much better cars for a
long time his testament to his driving ability. It's better
he's done that Mercedes both yep, the holding off both Mercedes,
which are much better car until near the end when

(01:06:47):
he when he did finish fifth, but isn't it? Isn't
it proof to not only his skill but mental fortitude,
given what he's been through this year, that now he's
posting times like this and he's posting results like this.
If he hasn't already secured that racing ball seat for
next year, then surely he will soon.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Well he hasn't because Marco said over the weekend there
are two people who have got contracts for next year.
One's Max and the others is Zach Isaac. So that
means it's Sonoda and versus Liam. But I think I
think Sinoda's out of favor in general and Liam deserves
the seat. But I tell you, I tell you what Jason,
I suppose I see Carlos started second, came third, So

(01:07:26):
you could argue that Liam could have started third and
come fourth maybe, but you know fifth is firfth. You
can't argue with that.

Speaker 21 (01:07:33):
Absolutely not. I think people wake up this morning and
they say, oh, it was third on the gritty finish fifth,
that's a failure, not a bit of it. Those Mercedes
were always going to be faster, and he said that
they had the speed, but the way Liam held off
Sonoda crucially, but also the two Ferraris. Are you know
Leclair and Hamilton Norris there as well. I just thought
his driving was absolutely superb as he held on to

(01:07:56):
fifth place. And look if there is a if there
is at all going on between Sonoda and Lawson, and
we don't know that there is, but if there is,
I think Liam chalked up a lot of points this
morning in that battle. But he did brilliantly to hold
him off.

Speaker 12 (01:08:10):
And as we mentioned a few weeks ago, mate, look
the fact, the fact that he's racing toe to toe
with Hamilton and Leclair and the McLaren's and the Mercedes
in a car that isn't really supposed to perform with
those top outfits. Ye again, is his testament to his
skill and mental ability.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
The only thing I worry about now, I don't worry
about it. It's just interesting Sonoda seems to have found
something this race in his last one he's done. Be's
like he's got on top of the car, or something's
happened to the car. They've changed. It's something's happened there
because all the RBS, four of them were in the
top ten today, which is the first time the season
by a mile. And he was right up there with Lawson,
so that part's interesting.

Speaker 12 (01:08:46):
Maybe he's driving for his future Mike, he may well
be driving for others.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Did we learn Jason anything about the Black Ferns. I mean,
I was Canada as shock.

Speaker 12 (01:08:58):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 21 (01:08:59):
I don't think it was they reckis one now our
former colleague, you know, one of the top commentators in
women's rugby in the world, said before the games she
thought Canada were favorites. And as soon as the game
started I could see what she meant. Canada came out
of the block so fast and nullified any strength that
we had on the outsides. I thought it was a
masterclass from Canada. He's even got back into the game

(01:09:21):
in the second half. But look, the fact remains, this
is an amateur team, the Canadian team who had to
crowd fund to even get to the World Cup, beating
a team of fully professional players. So yeah, there's some
thinking to do. Absolutely no doubt that Canada deserved to win,
but this is disappointing. New Zealand went there to at
least make the final and they haven't been able to do.

Speaker 12 (01:09:42):
Yeah, the Canadians were fantastic, might but the Black Ferns
were terrible in some patches. There needs to be some
major questions asked about the amount of resource and funding
that goes into that team. Maybe they need more. I
mean England is funded through the years, you know, it's
a huge amount of funding goes into the England team
and they will win the World Cup. But when you're
playing a team of parts time amaters. Yes, some of
those Canadians play europe semi pro or pro. But when

(01:10:06):
you have to crowdfund a team to get to a
World Cup up against the Black Ferns and then that
Black Ferns team again, I think is pretty well resourced
that it needs to be questions asked.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Terrible Now, just real quick, Jason, the Silver Ferns thing
with the win yesterday is does that resolve anything for them.

Speaker 21 (01:10:23):
Or just get just get Dame Noling back in there.
I don't know how you do it, but do it.
Obviously a Vet McCausland jury has done a good job.
South Africa aren't great. We've got the Constellation Cup coming up.
I just hope they resolve it, get Dave Noling back
in there and let's carry on what Yeah, she may
well though, if she's invited back and say, you know what,

(01:10:46):
I'll go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Else, Mike.

Speaker 12 (01:10:47):
I spoke to a vet mccaus and jury on Saturday
and she's leaving next Sunday after the final whistle.

Speaker 23 (01:10:53):
That's that.

Speaker 12 (01:10:53):
She's gone back to Saint Stephens College where she where
she and her husband resurrected at the school and and
surely knit boys. It has to sort something out in
the next few days.

Speaker 16 (01:11:05):
That's it.

Speaker 12 (01:11:05):
Then they've got the Assies fround the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
What day, Andrew, are your stories of all the abs
Eden Park Australia? What day does that those schools.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
Will ring six days out of it?

Speaker 8 (01:11:22):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
You know it God's sake? Do you want to do?
You want to call it now? Jason, We're going to
beat Australia by how much a minute?

Speaker 12 (01:11:29):
You don't think that you're Blacks And the coach and
crew under preciate mentioned if they lost to Bitters though,
the one thing that is going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
To lose the Bleeders.

Speaker 12 (01:11:37):
They won't.

Speaker 21 (01:11:39):
They won't, They'll be they'll want to even park. They
might lose in Perth, but they'll win an even park.
They'll get up for the occasion.

Speaker 11 (01:11:44):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Well, I'm Jason, I mean the season will tell you
that the stats would have it said that they'll win
this weekend, then losing Perth doesn't it. I mean that's
what we tend to do.

Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
Well that way. Championships going. Yeah, I mean I'd still
pick them to win an EAT and they've got to mate.
Got a bounce bak.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
What if there's a monsoon or like a red wind warning?
Is that going to affect the build up? Oh, it'll rain.

Speaker 12 (01:12:08):
It rains in every test, makes you're held to even park.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
That's probably true. All right, Nice to see you guys.
I think Jason fell off the line there. I think
I think I think is I think he was wearing
his new AI glasses and he connected it connected on
the AI glasses and he hadn't went a twenty two.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
By the way, I forgot to mention earlier on I
got to the second part of Charlie when I left
you on Friday, I was unsure whether I'd revisit the
second part of Charlie Sheen He's everywhere. I've never seen
a campaign, He's done a book in a doco The
Daily Mail running story in Australia this morning sixty minutes
Australia did an interview with him, where they claimed the
interviewer was shocked at some comments he made about his

(01:13:56):
drug habits. And yet I don't know how she could
be shocked because it's in the documentary and so if
she'd watch the documentary, she would have seen it. Anyway.
The funniest part is this drug dealer who would be
I'm guessing one hundred and forty to one hundred and
fifty kilos, and he wears shorts and high socks and
he looks like a drug dealer would look like. And
next to him, sitting there in his chair is the

(01:14:17):
People's Choice Award that Charlie won. So he obviously at
some point gave it to him, and he got him
off crack by cooking up the crack but using less
crack each time he cooked it up, and so slowly
but surely he gave him sort of no crack at all,
at which point Charlie took the hit and went, this
stuff doesn't work, so I'm going to quit, and so
he has. But it's the redemption episode. If you're a
bit down after part one. By the time you get

(01:14:39):
to part two, you're feeling better about life and you've
got fingers crossed that the rest of his life goes
a lot better than the first part of his life.
But if you haven't seen it yet, Netflix, Charlie, she
well worked it. Let's go to Australia after the news,
which is next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yeah, fair enough, Mike. I'm not sure you're the person
to be shouting with the rooftops about the A B's
not losing the blood Slady track record. Lake is appalling.
Appalling is a very strong word, Tony, Argentina run up
too much and are useless. I don't know that I
said that. But I did say we'd go too and
two against Argentina, so I got that one.

Speaker 11 (01:15:20):
Really sure you did say that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
I did? I Okay, Well, I thought I did say
two and two on Argentina, and I got that wrong.
And then I said, now, I did say one and
one for South Africa, and I got that.

Speaker 11 (01:15:28):
I think I think you had the All Blex winning everything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
No, I don't know I didn't have the All Blecks
winning everything I think you did, did I really you
need to find the tape on that. As I recall it,
I had them lose it. I said if they were
going to lose one, they'd lose to South Africa. And
I think I see them beating Australia twice. Although the
Perth thing is abnormal, isn't it. I mean it's too
far to travel, Perth is abnormal, but Perth is abnormal,

(01:15:51):
and there's too many time zones involved, and you've got
to go a long way out with mine.

Speaker 11 (01:15:55):
So you're already making excuses for your pick.

Speaker 10 (01:15:58):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Well no, well hold on, so just just to be clear,
because I couldn't work this out, so I was wrong.
So I you were winning until you got it right.

Speaker 11 (01:16:07):
I was winning when they got back from Argentina.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
So you got it wrong in South Africa because you
said going to lose both. And so you're saying one
and one for Australia, correct, right, And so Sam is
wrong as well because he had oh you claiming you.

Speaker 11 (01:16:21):
Sam's only as wrong as I am, so you're as right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
So we're all wrong.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
You are the most wrong, am I?

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I don't know, it's not how I see it. Twenty
two minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Cross the kasmin and Dennis Senehan's Backard. It's Dennis, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 23 (01:16:40):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Now give me the update on elbow. I'm sure I
was watching something in Australian television yesterday that seems to
suggest that because Trump, as we speak, as standing in Arizona,
that could have been when the meeting was going to
be held. As that true, and as they're going to
be a meeting any more substantive than a bit of
a pull aside at the un.

Speaker 17 (01:16:58):
Looked it looks like it just go to be a
pull aside. The Prime Minister at his early morning press conference,
has not committed to a meeting at all with President Trump.
Certainly the President's gone off to the Charlie Kirk memorial,
but is that the reason or not? And of course
if we were having a proper bilateral meeting, it would

(01:17:20):
have been organized by now, and I don't think it
would have just been flicked aside at the last minute.
So I think that clearly the whole prospect of a
full bilateral meeting with Donald Trump looks like it's gone
by the board. And it may be that this is
all partly because of Australia recognizing the state of Palestine

(01:17:44):
along with Canada and the UK, and a lot of
Republicans saying that this will damage Australia in the US relations.
So the Prime Minister's New York trip is not going
well as far as relations with Donald Trump are concerned.
And you know, he was not really going there to

(01:18:05):
talk about Palestine, although he is. He was actually going
there to talk about orcus about tariffs, about trade security
in the Pacific, China. These were the real issues that
he needed to talk to Donald Trump about. If he
gets no chance to have a really formal discussion, this

(01:18:26):
is yet another four failure on diplomatic relations.

Speaker 23 (01:18:31):
With the US.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
This sort of has become almost a meme or a
theme by now, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:18:37):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
I mean Trump has hosted a lot of people in
the White House since he's been in power, and a
member of Five Eyes orcus, it seems there's something not
right there, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:18:49):
He does and it's getting beyond the period of the
problem is for for Ance and Alberanezi. The issue has
become cann he actually get to meet Donald Trump. It's
not even about what they're going to discuss anymore. If
can he actually get a meeting? You know when they
were in Canada together that was put off and some
others were put off, but Antony Albernezi wasn't even officially

(01:19:11):
informed informed that his meeting with Donald Trump had been
put off. He was the last person on the list.
This is looking to be very bad as far as
Australia US relations are concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Is there a thing going on here? Because last time
you're on the program last week he'd gone to Papua
New Guinea too, As it turns out, signed next to nothing.
Now is in the States the same? There's a theme here,
isn't there There is?

Speaker 17 (01:19:38):
And look, it's the problem is that Antony Albernesis seems
to in the Australian government seemed to be spending more
time on Palestine and the fact that we're going to
recognize or we have recognized the state of Palestine, although
we don't know what the borders are or where an
embassy might go. But what we're actually doing is spending
more time in New York talking about Palestine than we

(01:20:02):
are talking about China PNG. Now what's emerged in P
and G since we last spoke, Things have even got worse.
China has really criticized PNG and suggested they shouldn't as
sign the agreement. And now more and more opposition figures,
including former prime ministers P and G prime ministers are

(01:20:23):
coming out and saying they don't think they should do it.
So this is another failure of diplomacy following Vanihatu's rebuff
to Australia's deal in the Pacific, and the real issue
should be about China.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
See the interesting thing, how to I mean? He's lucky
it's not an election year, isn't he? Because this would
be playing very badly. And I'm looking at the polling
for Susan Layman. How bad does that?

Speaker 11 (01:20:44):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
And do you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Subscribe to the idea that Elbow's good for another term,
even this early on in this current term, given the
mess that the opposition are in.

Speaker 17 (01:20:56):
Yes, look, it's not so much the fact that the
oppositions in a mess. Of course, the oppositions in a mess.
Susan Lee is very badly.

Speaker 8 (01:21:06):
On the.

Speaker 17 (01:21:09):
Polling, particularly amongst men. In the latest News pol she
she's got seventeen percent support amongst males. She's got Andrew
Hasty coming out today talking about a very male oriented
message about letting Australia make things and so forth, and
yet she doesn't seem to have much response. But it's

(01:21:29):
really it's the size of the majority that makes the difference.
Because Anthony alban As you can afford to lose more
seats than John Howard lost when he introduced the GST
and still keep government, so I think, and his own
leadership is not under threat. The other thing is, look,

(01:21:54):
he's very good at distraction and you know, while Susan
Lee is unable to approach him, he can still talk
about Australia making sovereign decisions. By the way, Kim New York,
he said, Australia's decision to recognize Palestine and other things
is done as a sovereign nation. We don't do what
Beijing tells us. We don't do it Washington tells us,

(01:22:15):
or Wellington for that matter. So cop that New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
There you go. Good on you mate, we'll catch up Wednesday.
Appreciate it very much. Dennis Shanahan out of Australia. The
other thing, briefly was the Optism business. Forty hours had
passed before they went public on the triple zero thing.
Four people done. It's an interesting thing, isn't it. The
emergency networks. A guy called Stephen rue I saw his apology.
It seemed heartfelt. First warned by customers early Thursday morning

(01:22:38):
that Triple zero had gone down nine hours after it
first occurred. Took another four more calls before the fault
was fixed, including late Friday afternoon they went public. Federal
Communications Minister of a woman called Anika Wells criticized them.
Eight week old baby died, sixty eight year old woman,
two men in wa one seventy four. The interesting thing

(01:23:01):
about the emergency network is most of us on a
daily basis, of course, don't use it. In fact, most
of us have never used it. But when you need
it needs to be there, and when it isn't. It's
just interesting that on that particular day, for that period
of time, four people died, and so obviously all the
inquiries are underway and the Optus have apologized and it
was just just standard firewall upgrade. What could possibly go wrong?

(01:23:26):
Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I almost forgot best story. So anyway, when I went
to start macar the other day and it wouldn't start,
and I got to go around Max, who came and
sold me. Anyway, I got a letter from a woman
I know who actually works at this place, and she
told me about how she's got twelve cars and how
she keeps a special starter in the back of each
of her cars. Anyway, she follow up letter. Listen to this.
Listen to what happened. We were on our way to

(01:23:57):
a Ferrari Club weekend at Masterton Humble Breck. Just to
start start the letter, We're on our way to a
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road which blew the rear shock absorber, steering fluid all
over the road. Coasted to a petrol station in TOKAROA
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(01:24:19):
turned up. I told him we needed to get to
Taupo that night, then to the car club weekend, then
to Wellington to visit a nephew had had a kidney
transplant from his sister. Could we rent a car or
get an uber to tapeou this toakarohah, mate, he said,
shaking his head. Tell you what, though, you can have
my Porsche.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Off.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
He went with my husband to his house, came back
with the blue nine to eleven s. He loaded our
car onto his transporter. He didn't even know our names
when he made the offer. His car went light the Clappers,
by the way, easily kept up with the Ferraris on
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his car for nearly a week, drove it back to
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(01:24:59):
loaded his porschback on the transporter. Off he went, isn't
it incredible? Never any mention of payment, nothing. We bought
him some very nice wine. Valeid the Porsche within an
inch of its life and tucked five hundred dollars into
the glove blocks. I mean that.

Speaker 11 (01:25:12):
That's basically the plot.

Speaker 14 (01:25:14):
I went and saw Priscilla over the weekend the musical,
and that's basically the plot of that. Of course, Bob
how on his way to the Ferrari. No, it's a
it's a big pink bus. That's trying to get down
the springs, but you know he helps them get there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Did they valet the bus and stick five hundred in
the glove box?

Speaker 11 (01:25:33):
Think she? I think he ends up with Bernardette at
the at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Would you would you lean some stranger your Porsche, aren't you?
I don't think so, would you? How good's that guy? Does?
He deserves to be on the New Year's Honors list
nine away from nine the make Hosking.

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Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
Run a Gamma head? My hare drives a Gamma Did
you have a favorite car from the Starship Show? Mike
Matt I did the dB six, the Aston Martin dB six.
Look at the video. They've done a video. It's on YouTube,
just punching Supercar Show, the dB six. I think they
had three Vanquishes lined up Aston Martin Vanquishes. They're probably,
I mean all the obvious ones. I mean, you know,

(01:27:24):
they had all the supercars and the laugh Ferraris and
all that sort of stuff. But in terms of real
world there's nothing I don't think to my eye still
that is more beautiful. Possibly a dB five than a
dB six, very rare, of course. I think Charles had
the six, as in the King had the six, not
the five. Mike Razer was on our flight from christ
Dutch yesterday. There was no smileing face when he walked

(01:27:45):
down the aisle. Well there he's a man on the mission.
He's a man on a winning mission. Five away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Now now Thomas Sainsbury. Tom Sainsbury has done an impression
of what he's calling Boomer. Dad's on talk back and
he has a jibe at us as in ZB people
listen to this.

Speaker 6 (01:28:10):
Oh there you are, say, did you hear me on
Newstalks ev, Yeah, so you can hear it back on this.

Speaker 11 (01:28:16):
I'm just trying to find and find and find the
right link.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
But anyway, Yeah, I've got talking to Mike Hoskin and
just on the blow and I just gave him I
see what I've been I've been telling you for weeks
about petrol prices and we had a big chat about
the ending petrol taxes and in one heavy and I said,
don't even get me started on the clowns and government.

Speaker 5 (01:28:35):
But yeah, he said.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
Afterwards, he said, I've made some really good points. And
so I said to him, Look, if you ever any
someone to talk to, I'm more than happy to come
in and you can. We can meet face to face
and we can cheat over the you know, the microphones
and do it properly. He hasn't got back to me,
but I know he's probably because it was just this morning. Yeah,
we cheered it, but hopefully Yeah, would that be fun anyway? Yeah, yeah,
I must find it because I'd love to hear it back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
It's all right, Katie's apparently posted on her Instagram. Of
course she has quite apart from the fact I don't
do talk back. But he's moderately entertaining. Speaking of moderately
entertaining tomorrow on the program Half of Finn, It's been
several years since we since we talked to him. Last
time we talked to him, he told me he lived
in Dumbo and I thought that's the weirdest name for

(01:29:21):
a place I've ever heard. And since that time, I
happened to have been in New York and I went
to I ended up in Dumbo and it was quite cool.
I thought, Man, I just wandered around Dumbo all day
saying do you know half of Fin? No one did,
so I don't know whether he really lives in Dumbo
or we just made that story up. Anyways, got the album.
I thought we interviewed him last time about his album,
but apparently his album is his debut album, so God

(01:29:43):
knows what he's been doing all these years. And Dumbo. Anyway,
half a m in the studio tomorrow after eight. We'll
see you from six as always, Happy Day.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
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