Full Show Podcast: 23 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
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across residential, commercial and rural news.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Togs Head been well in Welcome today another sector looking
for more people than they have. We've got more success
for the government on emergency housing. Got a new idea
from the university. He's got a new trend from Hospit
got the lads doing the sport in the commentary box
after right, Richard Arnold and Murray Olds they are along
for the ride. Pasking welcome to the week, seven past
six from our trained spot has filed. The Speaker of
Parliament Jerry Brownley, made a ruling last week around notes

(00:33):
and speeches and laptops. Came out of a speech from
the Murray Party MP Tucker to Ferris who was one
using a laptop and two turned out to be a
shade shady. It started with him in a speech talking
of those in Parliament who lie and passed it off
and how this sort of behavior wasn't acceptable. At this
point Winston Peter's objective being called a liar and indeed
all of Parliament's reputation being spirched. Jerry Brownlee says he

(00:57):
didn't hear it. Ferris denied saying it until Hansard was consulted,
and indeed the inference was most definitely made. He will
need to correct his comments now. Perhaps more importantly than
that was what came out of it, a frustration of
not a sadness from Winston Peter's over the standards of
parliaments these days. For I'm relying on computers and speeches,
which Brownly, by the way ruled out to the poor
old dress code, to the lack of general knowledge and

(01:19):
understanding of constitutional matters, I might argue, and indeed I
do that a lack of presentation and understanding of life's
important matters is probably more widely spread these days outside
of parliament as well. We've become too often a sloppy
country literally and figuratively in that sense. If parliament is
but a reflection of the community, then Peter's I suppose,
can't be surprised more perhaps disappointed, as indeed am I.

(01:42):
And in suggesting that I side with Peter's does that
make me old?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Am I?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
One of those people who were used to dismiss as
being out of touch the world's moved on, who cares
if we don't wear shoes or clean ourselves up for
a job or a plane or dinner is sloppy, you know,
just the way it is ignorant and so widespread. Who
cares is a lack of knowledge. A calling card is
a collective rebel the new norm? Or does Peters have

(02:09):
a point? And should there be places like the Parliament
where we expect more and should do better? Is Peter's
in fact on the money, and a good point well
made might in fact be an outworking of age, because
age allows you to have seen better days.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
News of the world in ninety second.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And war in the Middleast still on a knife edgees
the Israelis keep going after Hebela, Israel's president.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
We kept on being restrained and restrained and restrained.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
But something has to end.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
We have to bring our citizens back to their homes.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
That's the most natural obligation of any.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Nation to its citizen.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Israel's prime minister.

Speaker 7 (02:45):
They haven't stopped for a single day attacking us.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
No country can accept the wanton rocketing of its cities.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
We can't accept it either.

Speaker 7 (02:55):
We will take whatever action is necessary.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
At the Hesbela commander's funeral, he said that they were
ready to fight.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
In no way were they going.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
To back down.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And remember this is a group that probably suffered.

Speaker 8 (03:08):
Its biggest below on almost every level over the past week.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And then the Israelis popped into weld Jazira to close
them down.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
This is a decision that was made by one of
the Israeli generals. He is ordering us to immediately leave
the office and take our personal belongings and cameras.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
In Britain, the new government had been having a conference
and defending the habit of having parties and taking freebies.

Speaker 8 (03:34):
My own family didn't come to that. It was in
a work context. I celebrated my actual fortieth birthday with
my family. We went for a pizza. I celebrated with
my kids. This was where I got together colleagues, journalists,
actually trade UNIONUS education people.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
And in the States they're still trying to work out
whether the FINS move last week at a half point
is going to get the economy stoped up.

Speaker 9 (03:55):
It's pretty clear that by the end of the year
that we're not going to be at the FEDS infletion target,
which between two and two and are quarter percent. And no,
if I were to guess, I don't think we're going
to see that relief anytime soon. In the everyday prices
that people are spending money on.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'm finally. We've got a bloke called eno Alaric who
says he has traveled here from the year twenty six
to seventy one, and he's got millions of followers on
social media. Tells us the twenty third of September as
like today is the day that the first confirmed alien
signal will arrive from a distant soular system. He's also
claiming they come here to take us over, and never
in a month's time, the sun is going to let

(04:31):
out a rare energy that will let you see how
you die. And then there was more. In November, we
find an alien artifact in Antarctica that releases a deadly
virus worldwide. So that is news of the world in
ninety seconds back here on Earth. Better news In Sri Lanka,
they had a boat two votes out of the week.
In fact, it was a presidential election. A guy called Disanaki,
who's either a leftist or what some people are calling

(04:54):
a Marxist leaning leftist, has won and so they needed
to get to fifty one percent. They didn't round one,
so they head round two. In all of Sri Lanka's
eight presidential elections since eighty two, they've seen the winner
emerge in round one, so this was unusual. They also
seventeen million voters. They also said it was the most
peaceful in the country's history, comes of course, after the

(05:16):
main protagonists of the calamitous state that they currently find
themselves and were overthrown and fled the country. So we
wish him the very best. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
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Speaker 2 (05:32):
Zippy and not just for Lanka's sort of Macron presented
a government. Believe it or not, Barneyer did the job.
And what's interesting to follow is that the election produced
a sort of a left wing alliance, but this government's
right wing and a lot of right wingers have ended
up in jobs in cabinet. There's just one left wing
politician given a cabinet post. The Finance Minister, by the way,

(05:55):
is a guy called Aman who's Macron's one of Macron's
own resistance Renaissance rather party members. So they voted left
but came out with a right wing gun. So we'll
see how that goes fifteen minutes past six right from
detmon Fund's management reach with Morning to You Morning. Mike
Down's on a tear.

Speaker 10 (06:14):
Absolutely record high on Friday, so that was good news
and helping drive things was Intel. Those years arebout three percent,
up nine percent for the week. A bit of a
rumor going around Mike that Quoalcomm's approached the company about
a takeover. That would be the biggest tech deal ever.
And Intel's a chip maker, but unlike in video, hasn't
had the same shaarcross performance. It's lost more than half

(06:34):
its value this year, and video up around aout one
hundred and forty percent, invaded about thirty times more than Intel.
So Intel's been a bit late to THEAYI party. It's
trying to play catch up. You think PC PC sales
they boom during the pandemic, of course, but I've slowed
right down and with it PC chip sales, so they're
down twenty five percent since twenty twenty. They're trying to
perk that up a bit. They're putting AI bits into

(06:56):
their processes. They've lagged behind in data sales arend about
five and a million lastly, and the video fifty billion
so investing there, and they also got plans for a
foundry business. This is basically where they make chips to
other companies. They said, some ones already Amazon signed up.
Microsoft's giving it the nod that deal could be worth
up to fifteen billion to Intel. Push here is not

(07:16):
coming without costs. The foundry business that lost two billion
dollars last quarter, and I planned to spend there around
about one hundred billion through the twenty twenty nine building
plants mainly in the US and the cost cutting as well.
On the other side, fifteen thousand jobs going, that's fifteen
percent of its workforce. But one party it does have
in its corner Intel is the US government, so obviously

(07:38):
they're pushing hard to keep chip supply in the US
and reduce the lights on TWI one.

Speaker 11 (07:42):
So I said they received last week three.

Speaker 10 (07:44):
Billion dollars to build chips for the US military and
intelligence agenties. That's under a highly classified program. And they
also got eight eight and a half billion early in
the year end of the chip sect and they could
receive another eleven billions. So yeah, chips might be tuning
up the company might.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, what about FedEx A bit sort.

Speaker 10 (08:00):
Of softness in the economy and with that rate cut
is sort of going to work on. But yeah, Fex
is a bit of a bell wet. Then now these
shars were down fifteen percent on Friday, they cut their
Follyar out lock. Revenues are twenty one point six billion.
They were low and expected near income foul thirty two percent,
and they're really sort of tempered things going forward. They
say customers are basically feeling the pinch. They've been training down.

(08:21):
They've been going from sort of speedy price you're delivered
the cheaper, slower options. They're not alone. Ups seems to
be seeing the same, although they're also blaming it on
the flood of volume from e commerce players such as
Timu and Shine, and the AFEX just sees things slowing down.
Of course, they did very well during the pandemic. They're
now having to recalibrate to life post COVID. The Sea
even sigled out the rate cup from the feed and

(08:43):
they said that's a sign of how weak things are. Also,
Fenix are losing their contract for the United States Postal Service.
That's a bit bitterswet because actually lose money on the
on the contract, but it's actually going to arrive with
ups so they aren't cost cutting mode as well. They're
looking at merging the ground and express delivery unit. It's
and the wide a cost cutting drive. Net's on track
for savings of two point two billion this fiscal year,

(09:05):
perhaps also spinning off their freight business. So there's certainly
some challenging times to the delivery giant.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And I'm like, okay, And then we come to the
Bank of Japan.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
Yeah, so obviously we had the FED cut, but yeah,
others are looking to one other in particular, potentially looking
to go the other ways.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
This has been in Japan.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
So they came off negative rates of the last central
being to do so back in March, and they increase
rates in July and they're looking to weather increase the further.
But they've kept them at a quarter of percent, the
high since two thousand and eight. That was on Friday.
They said they're still uncertainly is around the economy, what's
going to happen with prices anyway, who's been to Japan
this year knows it's pretty cheap over there for a foreigners.

(09:39):
It's been great for the tourism industry and also good
for exporters obviously they're an export powerhouse, but has served
to drive up important inflation and that batt of deflation
for decades. So you know, they've had different motivations for
keeping rates low, but inflation that appears to be picking
up two point eight percent, up four months in a row.
GDP on the other side, that was revised down to
two point nine per so it's a tricky balancing it

(10:01):
for them, Mike. It'll also be interesting to see what
the new PM makes of things. They're all in Lib Dems.
They've got their leadership election this week.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
They do, and that's a it's a full and busy
field too, and no one seems to be able to
pick at what are the numbers.

Speaker 10 (10:14):
So yeah, the day was at point one percent, that
was a record high. Forty two zero six three is
and p fiving a down point two percent, Nastick down
point four percent, but they're all up for the week.
Foot Seed one hundred that was down one point two percent,
Nike up one and a half percent, fifty seven seven
two three A six two hundred up point two percent,
eight two zero nine that's also an all time high.
Indy fifty. We were going the other way that we
were down one and a half percent on Friday, soalkand

(10:36):
Eport they were lower with the new year sort of
hitting the market. Fishing Pocle Healthcare was down almost three percent.
Goal that was at thirty five bucks on the feed
and Jumbo mode two six two one record highs a
billion oil down sixteen cent seventy one. Even currency markets
US dollar get visus the key we sixty two point four,
so it was flat insian versus eight dollars ninety one

(10:56):
point six, up slightly versus stealing forty six point eight.
That was down point three percent this week, Mike, we've
got the ABA rate decision across the Tesman, got some
inflation numbers and Auzzi as well. And in the US
we've got balancer trade here we've got some results Frontier,
Shielders fun. We've also got give a bit of a
tempera check on the retail seat that we've got km
D Brands and the Warehouse.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Group fantastic, go well, catch up soon, Greg Smith devon
funds management task. We're talking about central banks the China,
the People's Bank of China. They left their rates unchanged
on Friday, so their one year is at three three
five and the five years at three eight five. The
importance of that is most of the experts thought they
were going to trim and they didn't. So I'm not
sure what that says about the Chinese economy at the moment,

(11:37):
six twenty one anymore.

Speaker 12 (11:39):
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
You're under this. Totally agree, Mike. We need to hold
ourselves to some standards in society, otherwise we're on the
slippery slope of decline. Mike Winston, it does have a point. However,
the behavior in parliament does reflect society no respect, no
responsibility and no discipline. Morning Mike. It's with sadness that
I must agree with both you and instant the decline
of standards, the growth of they couldn't care less attitude
swarms the country. No, it's not an age thing. We

(12:15):
live in a country where basic human respect has died.
Thank you, Wayne. No debate, Richard Anne with the detail.
Carmela Harris, I mean you know it's all games, isn't it. Krmla.
Harris agrees to a see an end debate. We knew
full well it was never going to happen. Trump ruled
that one out, but by the way, the election is
in fact in America underway. The first in person votes

(12:35):
were handed over over the weekend, six weeks before the
actual date itself. Virginia first state Friday, early polling sites
remaining open there until November two. Some long queues they report.
A couple of other states, Minnesota and South Dakota, voters
there can only hand an absentee ballots in person instead
of mailing them. Sixty nine percent of votes cast during

(12:59):
the last election done in early person voting or through mail,
so the business of turning up on the day done happening.
Are Sex twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
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Speaker 2 (13:11):
Boxing over the weekend may or may not be significant
for Joe Parker. Anthony Joshua of course, got smacked about
by Daniel de Bois, and a lot of people think
Joshua was now done. Aside from that, a couple of
things turned out to be talking points. First involved somebody
called Liam le and im on the comeback with my brother. Anyway,

(13:38):
they didn't go down all that well. A lot of
people labeling it terrible and so I'm saying they were
selling their tickets to the reunion tour. So Liam hits back,
of course, this is an effing pop concert, soft coox
can't handle the punk rock bikes. You can't argue the
sentiment like that. That wasn't the only thing he said.
Then we come to Tyson Fury, who was at the fight.

(13:59):
He was hoping course for a Josh you will win
so he could have a reunification, which would have well,
that would have brought quite a payday. Yeah, not overly
happy he wanted. He was saying, there's cost M one

(14:19):
hundred and fifty million pounds which would have been the
purse for the reunification. So we'll see where all of
that goes. Still, come on the program this morning, Tom
of Potarker's back. Last time he popped his head up
and he said, we're doing really well in emergency housing.
All the wowsers went on a and not they must
all be going into a car, mustn't they. So he's
got fresh details this morning which appears to show that
families in emergency motels are out and they're into at

(14:43):
least some form of social housing, which is encouraging. So
we'll crunch those particular numbers and the lads will do
the sports in the commentary box after eight meantime on
the My Cosking Breakfast News, It's next.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Your Way News togs had been.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
New poll numbers out of the States for Your Shortly
Richard Arnold in a couple of moments. But this Wahidali
guy has been giving Starmer and Co. Money has affected
him in the polls. It's the weirdest thing, isn't it.
Not just clothing but glasses, as though they can't afford
glasses anyway, Starmer. Over the weekend they've got the conference
and said we'll be doing no more of that, thank
you very much. There's a poll out though his drop

(15:30):
and approval rating is gargantuan. In fact, he's now more
unpopular than Rishi's sunk and that says something so the
shortest honeymoon in history. It's an opinion poll. He's plummeted
by forty five points since July. Only twenty four percent
of voters believe he's doing a good job. Fifty percent
of got a negative impression overall net rating of minus
twenty six, so the Americans call that well and truly underwater.

(15:52):
He was at plus nineteen. So he's gone from plus
nineteen to minus twenty six and at minus twenty six.
Sunac at his worst point was one is twenty five.
So that's how you destroy your rep in record fashion,
twenty two minutes away from seven in the US lace
in the moment, as I say with Richard, meantime back
here now there's skilled shortage problems facing this. This time

(16:12):
we've got the manufacturing, engineering, and logistics who need an
extra forty thousand people apparently by twenty twenty eight. So
this week the Workforce Development Council is launching a campaign
to get boots on the ground. The chief executive fill
Alexander Crawford is with us on this feel very good
morning to you.

Speaker 13 (16:27):
What enter to you, Mike.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's sort of this dichotomy, isn't it? The moment? Apparently
we're in recession to get a job as hard work,
the number of ads we see is diminishing, and yet
we've got industry after industry saying we need tens of
thousands of people to do amazing things. How do we
explain this?

Speaker 13 (16:44):
Absolutely, Mike. So we've got us an aging workforce and
every week we're seeing skilled, experienced workers retiring and that's
only going to grow exponentially and as a result of that,
we need to fill those vacancies.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And by my rough calculation, are you talking about twenty
twenty eight, that's ten thousand a year. It's close to
one thousand people a month.

Speaker 13 (17:11):
Absolutely, and for people a week. Yeah, it's huge numbers.
And I mean that's just for our manufacturing and logistics industries.
I'm sure the figures are pretty similar in other industries
as well.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's amazing. So what do we need to do. Do
we need to get them locally, get into schools to
say this is an area for you, or do we
need to rely on immigration?

Speaker 13 (17:31):
Immigration settings and immigration is a key part of filling
sales gaps. But we've got a unique opportunity in New
Zealand with our growing specific community. And this is the
difference between our Pacific community and the wider economy is
that we've got a growing They're both growing in numbers
and they're also more useful. So they are a logical

(17:55):
and a really useful group to work with.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's encouraging. So are the immigration settings right in your
view at the moment? In other words, of people want
of these that want to come here to do this
sort of work, they can.

Speaker 13 (18:10):
I think, as I say, immigration is important, but with
this action plan, it's designed to complement any immigration settings.
And yeah, the opportunities there not only for our industries
but all of the economy.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Part of the problem when we say broad things like manufacturing, engineering, logistics,
we might have a rough idea of what that entails,
but I'm assuming within there there are thousands upon thousands
upon thousands of different jobs and careers and alternatives totally.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
Totally, and when you try and split them up into
different industries, you can do it. But when you have
a lot, for example, with what the government's intending to
do with the infrastructure spend, you can't do that without manufacturing, engineering,
and logistics. So, yeah, there are overlaps between industy and
they're a huge diversity of roles and that's exciting, exciting

(19:06):
for people. But we just need to make sure our
commenities understand how exciting our industries are.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Exactly and how much of this is around growth therefore
optimistic versus as you say, just old people retiring and
new people required. So, in other words, are we going
places with this or not?

Speaker 13 (19:21):
Well, if you believe in history, and obviously we go
through economics cycles, we will see growth at some stage.
And so as I say, with the government intended spend
on infrastructure, it's clearly going to be a last degree
of growth emanating from that, and so that's going to
require skilled workforce and we need to fill those roles.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nice stuff go well with a campaign. Phil Alexander Crawford,
who's with the work Force Development Council nineteen minutes away
from seven paskiing Harris is bringing in money like there
is no tomorrow. This is the Federal Election Commission. Her
campaign raised more than one hundred eighty nine million dollars
in August, which is more than four times what Trump raised.

(20:06):
Also outspent Trump in August four hundred and four million
in cash on hand at dwarfs. Trump's two hundred and
ninety five million doesn't include donations, by the way, to
other branches of the political operations. This is just their
specific operation. Earlier this month, they had a total of
three hundred and sixty one million. That's in August alone
from the Democratic National Committee, the fundraising committees, all of that,

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so three sixty one million in total for the month.
Trump got one thirty and that doesn't include also September.
So far, her campaigns pulled in forty seven as an
million from nearly six hundred thousand dollars in the twenty
four hours following the first debate and as it turns out,

(20:46):
the first and only debate. And more on that with
Richard in a Moment eighteen to two the.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
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Speaker 2 (20:57):
Here's some good news for New Zealand. In the country
this week is Monumental Energy. They're Canadian. They want to
work with the New Zealand Energy Corporation and they're going
to look for oil and gas. So they're back. Also
interested in buying into projects which upgrade existing oil wells
to extend their production life. So Monumental Energy out of Canada,
Welcome back.

Speaker 14 (21:16):
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Speaker 2 (21:23):
The state side. Richard Arnold, Good Monday morning to you.
Good Monday morning, so poles are open and people are
starting to vote, and the poles it's all on.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Oh like an election, sati right, it's out of he
gave for three day years. But yeah, the poll show
that Kamala Arris is building a little more momentum although
the votes but remains within the margin of error. But
a new National NBC poll out today has Harris leading
Trump by five points forty nine to forty four percent,
also giving her the edge and being seen as competent

(21:51):
and effective as well as on having the mental and
physical capacity to do with a job. Clear reversal from
the same polling question by the same polling outfit when
Biden will on the card. Other things have Note that
gender gap, We've spoken about it before, but it is
extraordinary among men, Trump leading by twelve points, Harris leaeds
among women by twenty one points. So that is a

(22:12):
thirty three point gender gap spread. That is pretty incredible,
is it not. Also, Trump is facing big troubles in
battleground state North Carolina, where the African American candidate Mark Robinson,
running as a Republican for governor, is having some big,
big problems. Discussing comments that Robinson is said to have
made on a porn site years ago have come to

(22:33):
light where he argues that maybe slavery would be a
good thing if it was reintroduced. He calls himself a
black Nazi quote unquote, and has argued elsewhere that the Americans
worth quote evil intent, need killing. Robinson claims he never
said some of this stuff. He calls it tabloid trash
and says he will not quit the governor's race. But
Trump has been hailing this individual.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
This is Martin Luther King on steroids.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Seriously likens him through doctor Martin Junior. Harris campaign just
put out an ad on Robinson, Trump and abortion. He's
been an unbelievable Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
For me, there's no compromise on abortion.

Speaker 14 (23:12):
Abortion in this country. It's about killing the.

Speaker 11 (23:15):
Child because you aren't responsible enough to keep your skirt down.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Gender gap what gender gap?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Trump Deputy Jdvent says the voters will decide.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
He says, well, the allegations are pretty far out there,
of course, but the allegations aren't necessarily reality.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Meantime, Kamala Harris accepted in October twenty third date for
a second debate with Trump. Donald said no, as you
indicate too late to do another. He says, the voting
is cast. Says Trump's speculation though, is that they might
reconsider that depending on how the VP debate goes in
a bit over a week.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Okay, last I look, we had full dead seventeen and't
you worry we at in Alabama?

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Yeah, it's horrendous, the latest in this gun toting country.
Police in Birmingham's ape they're trying to track down multiple
shoots responsible for this latest outrage. Eighteen others apart from
the four killed three men and a woman now listed
as worded, some dealing with life threatening injuries. This happened
in front of a popular eating place in part of

(24:12):
the city where crowds gather for food, drink, so outings, entertainment.
The police say they do not believe this was random.
They still didn't have the full accounting, says Birmingham's mayor
Randall Woodfin.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
There's a certain.

Speaker 9 (24:23):
Element in this community.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
Or too comfortable riding around.

Speaker 15 (24:29):
Semi automatic weapons, automatic weapons, conversion switches and everything else cools.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Only in ten Hell.

Speaker 11 (24:38):
Intent is the hard people.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Should people kill people?

Speaker 4 (24:42):
So how's that for? As an ad for the city
right exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And I happen to see this Friday. It was like
he was the only one on the team Attani and
what he did is I mean literally, it's never been done.

Speaker 14 (24:52):
Before, that's right.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
A lot of people are comparing this to say, Roger
Banister breaking the four minute mile marker back in nineteen
fifty four. The base world is just buzzing over the
fact that he has become the first player ever to
reach fifty home runs and fifty solid bases in a
single season in the Dodgers last game with the Miami Marlins. Now,
two of those who let the historic balls slip through

(25:15):
their hands as they were watching this so speaking out
and you've got to feel for Ryan Wold, who let
the ball graze his fingertips, and Max Martyrs, who had
the ball in his grip almost then let it slip
in the mad scramble it went on. They say that
baseball could be worth half a million bucks, folks, maybe
a lot more. These two must be having nightmares.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
About all his butters.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
There's quote it was really cool, just big there.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, keep telling yourself that fella right on, mate, Will
you ever get over it?

Speaker 8 (25:43):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Good on you mate see Wednesday, appreciate it very much.
The funny thing is they took the base out for posterity.
But the problem with basses these days is they've got
metal sticks on the bottom, so it's not like just pulling.
You know when you and I played as a kid,
you just like grab the base and take it home.
This has got a big metal So how you frame
that up? I've got no idea. Just quickly, by the way,
stand by. I'm assuming this week for the Nevada Supreme

(26:04):
Court because they went to the district court and they lost,
so they've gone to the Supreme Court. This is the
Murdock case that no one seems to know what's going
on because the media have been banned from the court proceedings,
and this is his future and who gets what, where, why,
when and how? But a whole bunch of them see
and in New York Times, Washington Post, et cetera. They
went to court and they said, we need to we
need to have a little sneaky pe can find out

(26:25):
what's going on. So we'll see what the Supreme Court
has to say about that. As I say, presumably later
on this week night Away from seven, the.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
My costume breakfast with Alveda retirement communities use togsdadvs.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
It was seven away from seven questions for you if
you voted for Torri Farnoo? One do you regret it?

Speaker 11 (26:44):
Two?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Are you prepared publicly to put your hand up at all?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
And say why? Because, of course last week she said this, I've.

Speaker 16 (26:51):
Just sold my car recently to help pay the bills,
and I walked to work again. My mortgage rates have
doubled in the last few years, so I'm feeling the
crunch as well.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
She's feeling the crunch one hundred and ninety thousand dollars
a year. So then she decided, for reasons best known
to herself, to turn up with Jack tame on Q and.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
A I Will.

Speaker 16 (27:12):
What I said was, yes, I've sold my car and
made some comments. What I do think is that it's
been completely blown out of proportion and a distraction from
the real issues facing Wellington City.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
She actually raised the issue herself, and as I think
Jack pointed out in the clip I saw, she raised
it three minutes into the next interview, So not really,
because part of her excuse was it was now long
interview and you get a bit you laid back and
call and you know whatever. So three minutes and she
was what was she saying on Nick Show?

Speaker 16 (27:38):
Again, I've just sold my car recently to help pay
the bills.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So she just sold a car to help pay the bills.
But then we got distracted because we didn't because we're
into a So just if you voted for it, just
let me know why this is. And then having told
that she sold a car, then not sold her car,
she then I think, told us she sold a car.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Did you need to actually sell a car to pay
the bills? No?

Speaker 16 (27:59):
I actually it's a shame because it was taken out
of context.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Now it wasn't taken out of context, Tory and then
her office set afterwards that she did sell a car
to pay the bills. So just once again, if you
voted for that, just tell us why five minutes away
from seven, Well, the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
It's the fizz with business favor. Take your business productivity
to the next lest.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Weankira Farmers Wednesday results day, of course, for the twenty
four financial year, milk price is what the farmers are
looking forward to. The twenty three twenty four number the
season ended May thirty one of course, farmers haven't been
fully paid and won't be until the end of the year.
But the latest auction, the Dairy Trade auction mid points
eight fifty for the milk solids, which at this stage

(28:41):
is above what Dairy New Zealand says says is the
national break even price of eight dollars and nine. That
eight oh nine doesn't include principal repayments, capital investment, all
that sort of stuff. The other thing farmer is going
to be very interested in this week is whether or
not Fontira will be looking to sell all of the
consumer business that's valued at a bit over three billion.
They've been improving in the eye of those who matter

(29:03):
most from Tira. From Tira's doing a very good job
at the moment, and your survey of its farmer showed
sixty five percent of respond and said their performance had lifted,
which is up from fifty eight percent last year. No
word on whether they sold any cars or cows, or
the walk work or anything. Maybe they just got on
with a job and that's Miles hurry employee is doing

(29:23):
a very good job. What the government seemed to be
doing is significant in emergency housing. So a couple of
weeks ago Tama Potucker comes out and goes numbers down
and then everyone goes, oh, they will have gone to
a car or whatever. Anyway, he's got more numbers this morning,
and they are dropping like flies out of emergency motels
and into social housing generally. So the debate will be

(29:44):
back on. But it seems when you look at the
actual numbers that they are doing very well. Indeed, Tama
Potuck as with us after the news which is next,
you're a news talk set.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like costing breakfast with the Jaguar f phase cut from
a different class news togs.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Edb we seven past seven could have been the government
have at last crack the emergency housing nightmare that's plagued
this country for the past handful of years and the
nine months since December. The claim this morning is that
the number of households and emergency motels has dropped from
thirty one hundred to thirteen hundred, which is a saving
numerically of half a million dollars a day. At the
Associate Housing Minister tomat Potucker's with Us morning got them

(30:27):
very well. Indeed, just for clarification's sake, you talk households,
Do we know how many actual people we're dealing with?

Speaker 15 (30:33):
We do know how many actual people, but there is
a little bit of a change sometimes Parmo move out,
but the children go somewhere else is a little bit
of flexibility in that. But I do have the numbers
to hand.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
But it's thousands of people, presumably if you're dealing with
a couple of thousand households.

Speaker 15 (30:50):
Yes, and certainly since December there's been nearly a couple
of thousand children come out of emergency households. And since
we made the decision around Priority one, of course thousand
and three und eleven up to the end of August.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
How are you doing it?

Speaker 15 (31:05):
First of all, we're really focused on making sure that
those people who go into emergency net hous and have
a genuine need bike for a short term stay in
temporary accommodation. That's not just turning up and saying I'm
ready to go, Please support me to go into emergency housing.
It's making sure they've taken the effort to have a
look for housing elsewhere and they're following the appropriate responsibilities framework.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
So you're doing nothing miraculous, because of course, when you
made your emissional announcement. A couple of weeks ago, everyone went, well,
I've disappeared. Where have they gone? They've all gone on
to the footpath or the cars.

Speaker 15 (31:36):
Yeah, no, that's not fair. That's completely unclear. We know
where most people leave in emergency housing. They're going to
about eighty percent, nearly eighty percent when we arrived, when
you where about fifty percent we're going. But now we've
got better data tracking and knowing where people are going to.
Generally there are some people and they don't have to
tell us where they're going. We don't know nearly twenty percent.

(31:56):
You have a decision we make. Mike was surpriortized and
to get them out of emergency housing, and that was
a decision we made in April, at the end of April.
And since then, as I've said, six hundred and forty
five to Fino with Tabatiki, two hundred and eleven have
gone into social housing.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Okay, and they will be in social housing for how
long we don't know. So essentially the trick you're pulling here,
as you're gone from emergency to social there's still under
some sort of state care.

Speaker 15 (32:23):
No, I think that's a little bit unfair with the
priority one. That is true might but there's a whole
bunch of others that have gone out of emergency housing
into private housing. We know that because of the small
accommodation supplements that go through the system that support hundreds
of thousands of kiwis into private housing. But our real
message is mcs take decisions, be accountable, be really clear

(32:46):
across government who's responsible for what. And also this is
with the Minister of Housing, make sure we start firing
up private development of private housing.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Again, does this continue, do you think or is this
just the initial low hanging fruit where can claim some
big numbers.

Speaker 15 (33:01):
I think it's blue shirts mite I describe it, and
there's a risk of people reversing back to transitional or
emergency housing. But we've got to take the steps now
to reduce the numbers, make sure the eligible criteria, clear
decision making around responsibilities, and then we've got to try
probably a couple of other things that we're looking at

(33:22):
around social outcomes, contracting and trying a little bit a
couple of different methods to ensure that not only do
people exit emergency housing, but they stay out of emergency housing.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Appreciate your time time at po taker Associate Housing Minister.
Ten minutes past Sevensky got a new idea for university.
Sir Peter Gluckman, who is the chair of the university's
advisory group. He's proposing more collaboration within the sect de
sess students could be picking up courses from multiple institutes,
apparently all at once. More details are expected, I think
by the end of the month. University's New Zealand boss
Chris Williams back. Well, this Chris, very good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (33:53):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Do this demand driven?

Speaker 15 (33:56):
Look, it sort of is, but not so much student
demand driven. It's more kind of country demand driven. There's
a lot of kind of low demand subjects, particularly subjects
which are trying to get to scale. They're things that
we need for our economy of the future that actually
it would make a lot more sense for universities to
collaborate on. So you know, we've got subjects like say

(34:18):
Earth science, geophysics, there's actually only five students and undergraduate
subjects right now across three universities. It would make far
more sense for those universities to collaborate.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
So that's logical. But if it's for the economy of
the future and no one wants it. Is that a
problem in and of itself.

Speaker 15 (34:33):
Well, a lot of these subjects are subjects that have
to grow, and often the best way to get them
to grow is to actually have universities work together in
the first place to get them to the kind of
scale where they will be successful. So things like artificial intelligence,
it takes time and money to get programs stood up.
It would make a lot of sense for universities to
be collaborating on that infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Is the ReVibe within the universities they like collaborating or
are they are a little bit prestigious to deal with
each other.

Speaker 15 (35:01):
It's a mixed thing. So in kind of Western style universities,
they were all set up in the eighties really on
competitive lines, So the whole idea should be But like businesses,
if you have to compete for students with really relevant
degrees good employment outcomes, that's good. So you know you
want competition, you want competition for research funding. But actually

(35:22):
universities are expensive. Good teaching is expensive, and it does
make sense to collaborate on that stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Does that count of the argument? You need people back
on campus and there's too many people at home in
their bedrooms these days. This sort of works against that
general thinking, doesn't it.

Speaker 15 (35:37):
Well, teaching has evolved quite a bit in the last
fifteen to twenty years and accelerated thanks to COVID, So
there are really kind of two main modes of teaching.
There is pure distance, which is properly designed, you know,
putting good support around students, and then this kind of
how on campus learning has evolved to the point where

(35:58):
now actually you can be located near a campus but
never actually come onto campus. You can do electors online,
you can do your tutorials online, the whole library is
available via your laptop. So actually technology makes a whole
lot of different modes of collaboration possible.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Now, how does this dubtail in with why Papa Tom
Marta rah at Auckland University, where suddenly universities are telling
you what you need to learn.

Speaker 15 (36:22):
Well, that's always something that universities have to consider. Every
university has a graduate profile, So these are the sort
of things that they know that when they listen to
their employers and their communities, the things that they are
looking for from graduates. So every university is always looking
to make sure that in their main degree programs that
they are able to develop those kind of skills and competencies.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Good to talk to you, Chris, appreciate it, and then
notice how diplomatic that got Chris Wheeland from Universities New
Zealand thirteen minutes past seven, ask my Tory fanes and
absolute bloody joke as as well into city council. The
incompetence is palpable. You can't make the stuff up. No, Tony,
I've decided you count either. I mean what I heard
over the weekend from her, you literally cannot make up Mike. Mike,
she needs to do a budgeting course, probably, Mike. Some

(37:06):
of us saw through Tory amazing how many intelligent people didn't, Mike.
The trouble is not enough people actually voted. That in
itself is probably the crux of the problem.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Here is the answer to your question. Most who voted
for her are a gender driven so it doesn't matter
to them what she does. She can straight up and
down lie. They won't blink. Only the swing voters may
admit they were wrong. Mike, I voted for Tory. There
was a TV panel candidate's debate pre the election. Paul
Eagle and Andy Foster were squabbling with each other like children.

(37:40):
Tory maintained a dignified silence. So yes, I did opt
for the new broom. Chris. I admire your fortitude and honesty,
if not your political acumen. Fifteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
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Speaker 2 (38:01):
This strange poverty debate This morning will have Louis Upston
with a shortly and Mendi's march ands three billion dollars
and all the other madness around it. Anyway, that's still
to come. Seventeen past seven not good news. I'm afraid
for New Zealand incur influences. The nations on the decline
comes from the Lowy Institute. They're out of Australia, of course.
They released their annual Asia Power Index. We're one of
only three countries to go backwards. The other two are

(38:21):
Russia and Me and mass who are an excellent company.
A traceable drop in diplomacy since twenty eighteen. I wonder
who that would have been traceable drop in diplomacy twenty eighteen.
Who was running the place. Lowey Institute Southeast Asia Program
Director Susanna Patterns with us. Susanna, good morning, Good morning.
So China beats out the Americans and the Asia Pacific
militarily for the first time. How are these things actually measured?

Speaker 17 (38:46):
So we have more than one hundred and thirty indicators
that go into our index. So in terms of military capability,
for example, we're looking at both the size of the
armed forces, the equipment inventories, and then also measures that
we take from an expert survey where we ask people, Okay,
so a country has this many tanks, but how well

(39:06):
prepared are they actually to go to war? So that's
one measure, and then we also look at a whole
range of other things, including the size of the economy,
economic relationships, and diplomacy.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Okay, when we look at the top five countries, the States, China,
Into and Japan and Australia. Is Australia helped by August.

Speaker 17 (39:25):
Not yet actually because August hasn't really delivered much yet,
so that's yet to show through in our data. Definitely,
participation in the Alliance network and defense networks is a
phenomenon that we've seen over the last five years that
the US has been doing a lot more, especially with Japan,

(39:45):
actually even more so than with Australia. So we see
that in the data that we collect about, for example,
combined military exercises.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
And is Japan seen as increasingly proactive in the region.

Speaker 17 (39:57):
Yes. So Japan is really interesting because overall, actually we
would say that Japan is in relative decline because it
has an aging society, but we do see that Japan
is playing a much more active role when it comes
to defense and security relationships, especially with countries in Southeast Asia.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Take China, take out the military aspect of China. Are
they waning or increasing?

Speaker 17 (40:21):
We describe China's power as plateauing, and that's what we've
seen over the last five years. But the US still
remains ahead of China. And I think many people would
have expected that year on year China would be making steady,
steady games to overtake the US, but actually that hasn't happened,
and the US remains about ten percent more powerful than China.

(40:41):
And that's due to a few different factors, including the
fact that the US economy is pretty strong, whereas China
faces a lot of long term challenges there.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Great insights do is then appreciated very much. Susanna Patann
out of the Low Institute up early for US in
Australia This Morning, come back and talk four year terms
in the second seven twenty.

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I'm excited by the prospect of a vote. With my

(42:08):
vote next election. Potentially the suggesting comes from the Prime Minister.
We could be asked whether we want a four year term?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Do we?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Now there's a debate. Firstly, we need to work out
whether the Prime Minister is actually going to deliberate or
whether in this Q and A session last week in
Front of Business he was merely amusing. So is there
a vote in twenty twenty six or not? And if
there is, is it binding? And when or if there
is a change voted? Four is the first four year term?
Could I suggest if we're having a vote, we vote

(42:37):
for one the status quo, two a four year term
or three a five year term. So if you're going
to the people, why not explore all your options? So,
assuming there is a vote, which way would you go? Personally?
I know my answer and the answer is I don't
have an answer. This is one of those areas where
there is no right or wrong both can work, both
can fail. It's an MMP type debate. There are failings

(42:59):
in them. Men list MPs like Darlene Tanna surely are
arguments for first past the post. The slap dash, amateurish
nature of so much of the political scene these days,
perpetrated by radicals and single issue crazies, is a good
argument for first past the post. But MMP has given
us diversity and gender and race and age. It is
a spectacularly diverse parliament these days, and you would argue

(43:20):
MMP is what gave us that. Anyway, off the back
of the Labour government of twenty seventeen through twenty twenty three,
and particularly twenty twenty through twenty twenty three, surely the
shorter the better is the answer. Imagine if they'd carried
on their carnage this year, given their term, think about
what it would have been twenty twenty through twenty twenty four.
How could you possibly vote for more of that? But

(43:42):
good government and this current combination might just prove to
be an example of that. Would need and want as
much time as possible to write the ship and get
us back to some sort of semblance of what we
once were. See Either way, you can see good and
not so good. That's what makes this one one of
your better debates. Ask by Time a clear precise over
his portfolio, or take that any day, Mike. Another minister

(44:04):
who's got the figures knows this job, doesn't. Fudge speaks
clearly and doesn't say I can't tell you. Mike. I'm
kind of laughing at how Chippy is rushed off to
the British Labor Party's conference when they're in meltdown, Mike.
When the Wellington meryal election only had three candidates, what
can you expect now, that's excuse making. I don't accept
that the candidates are the candidates. Maybe it's because you
don't vote. I get that, but I think the lethargy

(44:26):
involved in local body politics has been well documented for many, many,
many many years. It's like all those people who said, ah,
I voted Green to keep Labor out or I voted
Labor to keep the Greens out in twenty twenty. I mean,
you can't make stuff up like that. You can't second
guest democracy, Mike. People voted for Farna due to a
lack of good candidates, and so it goes. Everyone's got
an excuse, which does, of course bring us very neatly,

(44:49):
and we didn't because of Tory. We didn't get coverage
on the other Green comedy of the weekend, which was
of course the Green Party, because poor old Darlene lost
her case, surprising no one on Friday. Looking for a
judicial review, she didn't get one. So what now? Well
let me quote you, Chloe, Chloe, I am all over this.
We will take the appropriate time to take advice and

(45:12):
consider next steps. We will have more to say in
due course. Could you take longer to do nothing beautiful
without setting our record?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
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Speaker 2 (45:33):
Tog saidb my Green Party real quick to ban oil
and gas exploration. Well were they? I mean they agreed
with it, but they weren't really in government when that happened.
Were they with not a jot of a care about
medium to long term ramifications that are now showing up,
but hopeless at doing the obvious? With a reclcitrant member Mike,
how if the people at Voter for Tory didn't understand
the STV voting system, didn't want it. That is probably

(45:55):
your best argument so far and an argument against STB.
But but as far as Darlene's concerned in the court case,
I cannot understand why clothes busy going. We will take
the appropriate time to take advice and consider next steps.
Next steps were a meeting. They had a meeting all
set to go until they pulled the meeting so they

(46:16):
could go to court. Given they've gone to court in Won,
why wouldn't the next step be an obvious meeting so
they can get on with us, unless, of course, as
I suggested weeks ago now, they actually don't want to
get on with it. Twenty three to eight lot a
talk in the sports world about the rugby Liam Wilson
to be confirmed in the next couple of days, which
is exciting of course, So were that another match for
you with the lads up tow eight o'clock. Meantime, advice

(46:38):
to the government to run child poverty reduction has been
made public. So the target set by the previous labor government,
it turns out, according to Treasury, is no longer quote unquote,
no longer realistically achievable. They ask to make the bill
to be three billion dollars. The child poverty Reduction Minister
Louis Upston is with us on this is a very
good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (46:55):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
It was a thought bubble, wasn't it of miss A
Dern at the time, and nothing really material who was
achieved despite the fact she wanted it to be. Isn't
that the cold hard truth about it?

Speaker 18 (47:06):
Well, the reality is they threw lots of money at
it and the number of children in material hardship went
up four one hundred extra children living in material hardship
six years of labor.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
So when Mendes March is quoted this morning is saying
it's a choice and all you have to do is
write a check, he's wrong as well, isn't he.

Speaker 18 (47:24):
Well, the reality is we know that children do best
when the economy is going well, when they've got parents
and work, they're attending school, and they've got great opportunities
ahead of them. That's why we're taking practical steps to
grow the economy, deal with the cost of living crisis,
like providing tax relief and making sure kids are at school.
Those are the things that actually make a difference in

(47:46):
child poverty, and that's what we're focusing on.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Do you have any sense of if your prescription is
right when that manifests itself in tangible outcomes that we
can see in a positive direction.

Speaker 18 (47:58):
Well, we know for children there is a lag, but
we are absolutely focused on the things that make a
difference for me, for example, making sure we've got more
households and work. We don't know that we're in a recession,
so unemployment is higher than we'd like, but that is
a direct result of the wasteful spending that the previous

(48:18):
government made. Though we've got a few challenging months ahead,
but it will come right.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
The three billion dollars, does anyone know whether that's real
or is that just a guess? Even if you did
want to spend the money, and if you did think
that by spending the money it would make any material difference.

Speaker 18 (48:33):
Well, that's the figure that Treasury have come up with
to reach the target.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
How do they with those numbers? So they guess they've
got a dart board? Is there something more sophisticated than that.
I mean they're always seen big round numbers, don't they.

Speaker 18 (48:47):
Well, it were doing more of what Labour wanted to do,
including lifting welfare payments, transfers and a range of other measures,
but the reality is the child poverty numbers would get worse.
Labour's approach wasn't working. That's why we're going to do
something different from what they were doing. And we know

(49:08):
that the economy, having a growing economy is the best
opportunity for us to lift children and families out of hardship.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
If you do grow the economy, get down to the
crunchy stuff, which is the people who don't want to
participate in a growing economy to better themselves, and it's
the children who are the unwitting victims of that attitude.

Speaker 18 (49:30):
Yeah, and that's that's always a challenge, but that's why
what we are doing at the moment is making the
welfare system far more active, so it is more difficult
for people to choose not to participate. As we know,
under national there's rights and responsibilities and while the welfare
system is there to support you in your time of
need and your children, actually there's some expectations that you

(49:54):
take steps that you need to take yourself, and presumably
we will hold people accountable for that.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Sure presumably ties and we had Tama Potucker on earlier
on this morning, and this presumably ties in with the
emergency housing numbers which have gone from emergency motels into
social housing that in and of itself help some kids out.

Speaker 18 (50:10):
I'm assuming yeah, absolutely, So we want to see more
children at school. We want to see housing more affordable.
When families have stable housing, it makes it easier for
them to be attending school regularly, and in by attending school,
we want kids to do well and that's why we've
also an achievement targets. Those are the sorts of practical

(50:31):
things that's our children up for a great future and
that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Good stuff. Appreciate it very much. Louis Upston, who's the
child poverty Reduction Minister. Ninety minutes away from seven Lasking,
the government announced, I think it must have been Friday
that they're going to split the They're going to ax
the RIMA and they're going to replace it with two laws.
This is dry, convoluted stuff and eventually it will come
to pass. But they're going to narrow the scope of
the resource management system to focus on managing actual effects

(50:56):
on the environment. They're going to strengthen and clarify the
role of environmental limit and how they're to be developed,
which is good They're going to provide for greater use
of national standards to reduce the need for resource consents
and simplify council plans. That's particularly good because that what
that means is you're not dealing with these little fifdoms
that make up their own rules locally that make no
particular sense. They're going to have a one stop sort

(51:18):
of shop right around the country. Because we're not exactly
a massive country. They're going to shift the focus away
from the consenting before activities can get underway towards compliance.
That's good. They're going to realize efficiencies by requiring one
regulatory plan per region. BINGO going to provide for a rapid,
low cost resolution dispute system. Good. And they're going to

(51:38):
provide faster and cheaper processes with less reliance on litigation.
If they can do all of that, we might might
be on our way. Seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
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Speaker 2 (51:54):
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your life. Restaurant Association report for Q two this morning,
What are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Are we up? All we down?

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Can I be slightly provocative and suggest to you that
if you run a good restaurant, come cafe, you're doing okay.
If you run a fairly ordinary one, then you're probably not.
And then you're one of those people, And that the
Restaurant Association, by and large, of all the industry groups
in this country, are probably one of the bigger winges
about the place. They seem to be permanently miserable. And

(52:31):
yet when you look at some of the numbers, and
you certainly take some anecdotal evidence, and the places I
wander around and anecdotally see are booming, not just doing well,
but booming. It can be done if you do it well.
Annual sales fifteen point seven billion for the year ending
March twenty four. Is that good? Well, it's a five
point eight percent increase. That's not bad. Can't argue with that.

(52:54):
Auckland's down zero point seven. Now is Auckland down zero
point seven? Why is it because Auckland's not going well?
Or is it because there are many more outlets. Therefore
the spread around the individual outlet isn't what it was,
don't know. Seventy six percent reported worse or significantly worse profitability.
Now in that's the key. So in other words, the
speend might be up, but the profitability might be down.

(53:17):
So in other words, you're paying more for your goods.
You can't pass the price onto the customers. So yes,
you're still you know, making money. Yes you're still busy,
but you're not making as much money as you were.
Takeaway sector, and this is the other thing. This is
your classic working from home thing. So for example, if
you're a downtown cafe and people are working from home,
Wellington being a very good example, you're struggling because no

(53:38):
one's downtown anymore, but in the suburbs they are, so
you'll be doing well. So we've seen a change here
the retail the takeaway sector is up four point two percent.
That's good. Why well, because you won't be going to
arrestaurant anymore. You might be going and buying a burger.
So one person loses, another one wins. Twenty four percent
of respondents stating income is on pars or a quarter
on par or above the previous year, neighborhood eateries with

(54:02):
a strong local connection of finding success by building loyal
customer bases. That's what I'm experiencing. That's what I'm seeing.
People who are good, are known to be good, will
do fine. But if you just think you can open
something up, make bad coffee and offer up a stale
scone for six dollars fifty, you're wasting your time. Then

(54:24):
we come to the lawyers, who are all miserable. Eight
hundred lawyers and law students over three years have been
followed by a guy called Aaron doctor Aaron Jardin, Associate Professor,
University of Melbourne Center for Well Being Science. Our fifteen
thousand lawyers are enduring a silent crisis. Apparently, lawyers are
suffering high stress, high risk environments. Twenty three percent of

(54:47):
lawyers report their organizations do not foster a positive workplace culture.
Everyone's miserable, aren't they. I mean really, I mean you
go to any workplace in my experience, if you go
to any workplace ever and go hey, how about it,
and they go they want a slushy machine, then when
they get.

Speaker 19 (55:04):
A slush we're all giggling away, aren't we.

Speaker 15 (55:07):
Here.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
No, No, that just me.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
It's just you are as upbeat as this place gets.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Critical gap and proactive services that enhance well being before
challenges arrive. So, in other words, they don't see the
problems before they rise. I'm happy, though, mind you. I'm
I'm contained in a studio hermetically sealed from everyone else. Yeah,
that's how you like it, That's exactly how I like it.

(55:37):
Ten minutes away from it, the.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
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Speaker 2 (55:44):
But seven away from it, you trend in hospital speaking,
which kegs of cocktails ready for this? Kegs of cocktails?
Mass batches of Martiniz Margarita's and Mehitos. Normal Taps co
owner Luke Jones is with us on this look very
good morning to you morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Are you going very well?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Indeed, excuse my ignorance. Do you retail or wholesale or both?

Speaker 6 (56:03):
We're actually both. So we have a bar Normal Tats
and the Citywork's Depo and we've just started about three
months ago selling wholesale.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
And do you whole side? Do you make the kegs yourself?
In other words, Do you do that and then sell
them out or do you bring them in from somewhere?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (56:19):
No, No, we make them ourselves. So we started just
making them just for our bar, and then the demand
sort of picked up. People caught on to what we're doing,
and now we make them in larger scale formats and
sell them out two other bars across.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
How does the cocktail come out? Does it come out
of a hose?

Speaker 6 (56:37):
It comes out, you mean, like through like a tat,
like a tap.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
You pull it, you pull a trigger, and out comes
the drink like a beer.

Speaker 6 (56:43):
Yeah, essentially, Yeah, essentially, it's it's like a beer, although
some of them are probably easier to pour than beers
because you just you basically just turn the tap, comes
out and then.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Turn it off.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Okay, And and do they taste any good?

Speaker 11 (56:56):
Well?

Speaker 6 (56:57):
I hope so, because we've got a bar about it,
and we've got a wholesale business. But we've we've been lucky,
so we've done a lot of real time feedback with
customers at our bar, so we've been able to iterate
on our products across the last sort of eight nine
months to a stage where we're super happy with them,
and yeah, they taste. They taste pretty good.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
And they got shelf life issues in any way, shape
or form though.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
No no, So so they're all able to be kept
in cakes from around sort of three to six months
if they're chilled after being tapped. So yeah, that whole
wastage is an issue with cocktails. It's sort of the
same as bears on tap all.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
What happened to the vibe? You know, when you go
in and you somebody shakes it up and you know
there's some lovely glasses and a lovely ice cube and
a little slice of lemon, and you know what I mean?
Then what happened to that suddenly you're just ordering up there?

Speaker 20 (57:53):
It is?

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Yeah, well I.

Speaker 6 (57:55):
Guess it's just a different experience really. So what we
do is we just do the the kind of standard cocktails,
so the ones that bartenders don't often want to make.
You know, maybe ten spress of martinis in a row
can be a little bit frustrating for for a bartender
and also for the customer on the other end, waiting,

(58:15):
you know, sort of fifteen minutes for their tennis press
of martinis, whereas we can see them.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
In could I blind the only the only drink I
don't drink spirits. The only one i'm i'm is a
French martini. Could I blind taste of French martini against
yours if you poured one out of a tap?

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Yeah, I mean we don't actually do one, but we
could do one and you wouldn't be able to tell
the differences.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I use fresh pineapple juice
and you can't because you're in a key.

Speaker 20 (58:47):
Well, well, we do.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
We do use it's so it's pressurized, So we do
use fresh pineapple juice. We use fresh, fresh ingredients for everything,
and there's there's things that we use to sort of
stabilize it as well so it lasts longer. But yeah,
all our ingredients are fresh.

Speaker 20 (59:04):
At the moment.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Okay, do you charge less because it's more convenient for
you as the retailer or no, we do.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
I mean all of our cocktails in the city are
up for twenty dollars, whereas if you go to other
bars that probably range from around twenty three.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
To Sammy, who's my producer who drinks a lot, he
says twenty is a good price, so you're obviously on
the right.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
Yeah. Yeah, we have happy hour as well, so here
around the city between three and six. They're fifteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Fifteen dollars at three in the afternoon, what can possibly
go wrong?

Speaker 11 (59:36):
Look?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, absolutely good luck with that nice idea. Luke Jones,
who's with normal taps, cocktails and a cay.

Speaker 19 (59:48):
Can you never ever say, ever again that you don't
drink spirits but you do occasionally have a French MATEI.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Just occasionally they don't want to come in your room.
I don't want to come across as a heavy drinker.
That's all I'm just It's reputation. News is next.

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Speaker 21 (01:00:16):
Do wrong, No pretty who says next or not? We
scored nine tries tonight. We've come to McClay Park and
we have dethrown the makepie big sired Aufland. They take
the victory by forty seven points to twenty three.

Speaker 11 (01:00:35):
Auckland.

Speaker 21 (01:00:36):
They win it, and they win it by twenty seven
points to nineteen.

Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Tasman with the victory another last minute who went for
the mark on?

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
The All Blacks hang on to win the match. The
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Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
The rugby Championship will be decided in nol Spry next weekend.
It's an historic victory for Argentina.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
I have eld S andrews Herbil both well us fellows.
Good morning to you, Good morning morning, Mike. I notice
very kind of you to get up early in the
morning all day. You just back from your morning run
sad or you're gonna bounce into that at about eight thirty.

Speaker 11 (01:01:25):
Well, excuse me. I'm motivated to get out on a
bat mite because it's light here at about five thirty
in the morning, which is fantastic And isn't Sydney. Didn't
mean to Sydney much over the recent past, but isn't
it a vibrant city. You can understand how many, why

(01:01:45):
so many Kiwis are shifting over here compared to say Auckland,
which just seems to be constant doom and gloomy. Get
over here and it's vibrant, everything's alive, that sunny. People
have a great attitude. I've really enjoyed the.

Speaker 20 (01:01:57):
Last funny should say that projects did you notice that
when you suggested a run his body just involuntarily.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I watched you say I happened to see you on Friday,
and I saw you standing there on the water front
there and and I felt the same, even though it
wasn't even there, I felt the same. And Sydney is
one of my favorite places in the world. And you
get it on a day like you had it, and
obviously the game day was the same. And the harbor
is flat, and the sky is blue, and it's nice
and warm, and people are at the beach because it's

(01:02:28):
you just think, that's that's what draws people from all
over the world to Australia.

Speaker 11 (01:02:32):
And you walk into a bar, restaurant, a cafe here
and they welcome you and it's great to see you.
Get a mate, how's it going out? Can we help
you go? You walk into a cafe at bar and
orphant's like, what do you want? No, the kitchen's closed, mate,
we're closing.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
See you later.

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
It's so closes.

Speaker 20 (01:02:50):
The kitchen closes when you walk because I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:02:52):
I got to the food. We ran out of those. No,
we ran out of chicken yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
It's so true.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
Do you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I was talking with somebody just in the in the
staff kitchen a moment ago. I before we get into
this bagging of the All Blacks and all that sort
of stuff, and I do cite the South African result
as a very good example. I actually enjoyed the game.
I thought the game was a good game, and yes,
we could have done some things better, but then again,
the Australians came to life, and you've got to give
Schmid some some credit for that. And that's that's mo.

Speaker 22 (01:03:26):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 11 (01:03:27):
I think twenty one mil up after forty to fifteen minutes,
I thought that Black's going to stick sixty or seventy
on them. The All Black should have won by more. Yes,
they made more mistakes in that second half, and that's
still an ongoing concern that they're not finishing games properly.
I don't think you can blame the bench. I think
it's a combination of factors. I think clearly Bowden Barrett
was ruled out through illness. I think a few of

(01:03:49):
the other players copped a bug during the week as well.
Maybe Damian McKenzie, who just looked a little bit off
color weave a Yes, you've got to give credit to
Joe Schmidt and Mike Kross. They worked a near miracle
with this Wallaby team during the past week. They don't
have the cattle the All Blacks do, but gee, they
played well in that second half when they came back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Did you watch it and enjoy it, guy, or are
you too immersed in the horses now to pay any
attention to anything outside of Gg's Well, I'll be honest.

Speaker 20 (01:04:19):
I was working, so I didn't watch it live, but
I have seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I am.

Speaker 11 (01:04:23):
I'm similar to you.

Speaker 20 (01:04:24):
I don't think it's something to get all up in
arms about, like some people seem to be doing. But
what I do kind of worry about is that it's
the same problems in the sense that it's disciplined. Two
more yellow cards. You can't afford to really play a
rugby game with let's say, twenty minutes with fourteen men

(01:04:46):
at it on occasions, Yeah exactly, and then says the
last twenty minutes or so tests at the moments they
can't seem to score points. I saw Nick Beauley, who
does the sport down in christ Church for you and
sometimes reads on your show, put out a stat that
the All Blacks and the Rugby Championship haven't scored a
point past the sixty minute mark in this competition this year,

(01:05:08):
so that's got.

Speaker 11 (01:05:08):
To be a concern.

Speaker 20 (01:05:09):
I am slightly worried about, not necessarily the bench as such,
and I think I've said this in the last couple
of weeks, but more so the depth. I think this
All Blacks team probably has thirteen to fifteen good players
and then maybe not as much in the next eight
or so. And let's be honest, Rugby in this day
and age is a twenty three man game. This is

(01:05:31):
and you need twenty three parts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
You're worried about the crowd sab I mean it's a
big stadium, so you can give them that, But I
mean it didn't look even close to being full. I
mean there was sixteen thousand or something like that.

Speaker 11 (01:05:42):
No, it was just under seventy and it holds about
eighty eighty three. So I actually thought it was I
thought it was a good crowd that it went flat
on several occasions, especially when a team goes up twenty
one mili so quickly. But no, I thought the Aussie
rug Union did quite well, given you had the massive
Sydney Swan's game Friday night, you had two Rugby League
semi finals, which I note the Cronella game was nowhere

(01:06:04):
near a sellout in the middle of town. But I thought,
I thought the crowd was very good. A lot of
all black supporters area. They're expats or people that had
come across. And they do it well at the stadium too,
and it empties very quickly. Great transports.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
We go on and on and on, and I can
go on and on, and it's in the middle of nowhere.
And that's that's the reason it empties, is because everyone's
one hundred miles away from where they live.

Speaker 11 (01:06:29):
Well not I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Completing a mile out of town.

Speaker 11 (01:06:33):
No, no, no, no, listen. Listen. When I hadn't been
back to Olympic Park for many years, and when the
Olympics were on, it was just four or five or
six venues and that was it. There was nothing else here.
But now there's apartment's, hotels, it's all built up. It's
actually very close to the city.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
It's no closer to the city now than it used
to be. Sad because neither had been moved.

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
In, but they've built new They've built a couple of
new tunnels since the Sydney game, so it only takes
about fifteen twenty minutes. Maps on the city.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Okay, you're loving Sydney brief break more at the moment.
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Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Andrew Sebral Guy, hebelt Guy, Lydia Cove this morning. Can't
stop winning?

Speaker 20 (01:07:26):
Wow we Yeah, what a year she is having. I
don't really know how to sum it up, to be honest.
An Olympic gold medal, of British Open title and now
another LPGA Tour title. I think, what's what? It's ao
citious professional win. It's just remarkable. I hope I hope
New Zealanders realize how good she is because, and I

(01:07:46):
think I said this after the Olympics, she is only
going to be around for a couple more years. She's
made that pretty clear. So soak it and well you can.
It's an incredible career. Very lucky to have seen her
live a couple of times, and the fact that she's
kind of gone through a bit of a slump as
well in the last few years and now has got
back to where she is, got back to her best

(01:08:07):
in a time where women's golf is probably the toughest
that it's been in terms of competition, in terms of
the depths and that sort of thing. I think it's
a remarkable feast.

Speaker 11 (01:08:19):
She twenty three under.

Speaker 20 (01:08:23):
Nine under today.

Speaker 11 (01:08:25):
Yeah, she's in that zone. She's unbeatable.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Right on.

Speaker 23 (01:08:28):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Once you believe you can win, you can win. It's
it's as simple as that's outworks. Do you have any
idea sad with what happened over the weekend in London
to fix Joseph Parker? I mean, how does that thing
get stitched together?

Speaker 11 (01:08:38):
If it all Yeah, it was a big upset. That's
for Anthony Joshua Jesus stocks have gone through the floor.
Daniel Dubois would be a great applonent for Joseph Parker.
I think they will try to make that in December,
but there's a lot of obviously in boxing, a lot
of moving parts to put into place. I'd love to
see Parker on that who Sick Fury card in December

(01:09:02):
in Saudi, and let's hope that happens. I can and
he can find an opponent. The problem where the problem
is that Parker's resurgence has frightened a few people off.
That's that's the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
That is true, Lawson. To be confirmed, it'll be this
week or next very interesting, it'll be good. And let
me just put this one forward for you. He's got
the last six races of the season and with the
possibility of being reviewed obviously for what answer red Bulle itself.

Speaker 11 (01:09:33):
So r B for the last six races, Yes, yep.
And we heard a clip there in the news from Ricardo.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
He's done. It's over. The only thing they pocked up
is the announcement because if you look at what he
looked like over the weekend, he looked miserable and it
was just it was one of those ridiculous things whereby
everybody knows what's going on, he just couldn't say so.
And you saw an interview with Horne and he was
equally as weird about it all. And the whole thing's

(01:10:02):
just silly. But it may Lawson gets six races and
if if he's like hot, as in really hot, do
not be surprised if he ends up in Red Bull.

Speaker 11 (01:10:13):
And so what you're saying is they could drop Periries
back to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Well there, Well, I mean that there's several things that play.
One of them Sonoda, of course, who I am assuming
would back himself to be in Red Bull ahead of Lawson,
But equally Perrieres may get dropped back or may get
booted out all together. Because you came this morning, it
came tent, you've got one point and.

Speaker 11 (01:10:34):
Assuming it happens, isn't this fantastic for New Zealand? New
Zealand Sport sport which has produced another Formula One driver,
which is quite extraordinary given as only twenty seats per year,
right exactly, it's it's because coordinary of you compare that
to say a footballer making the EPL or a basketball

(01:10:54):
like Adam's making the NBA, which is fantastic in itself
and quite extraordinary. But if one with twenty seats and
the key we to be driving for a top team
is fantastic.

Speaker 15 (01:11:05):
And when when.

Speaker 20 (01:11:07):
Brindan Hartley was in it a few years ago, now,
the excitement around you know people getting into one and
that sort of thing was fantastic. And I don't reand
this with any disrespect Brendan Hartley at all, but Liam
Lawson has one points already and if one so, I
feel like he's probably more ready and more capable of
achieving some pretty bloody good things.

Speaker 22 (01:11:26):
And that in that class exactly, you're seeing a new
generation to hang in there, to hang in there with
Red Bull and not Grizzle and have a great approach
as Liam Lawson always does.

Speaker 11 (01:11:38):
Smart head, engineering wise, driving wise clearly increases everybody in
that team. And if one paddock and doesn't have the mega,
millions of others who aren't that good a driver but
get drives because they've got the mula. Again is another
factor that has got Liam Lawson and to.

Speaker 20 (01:11:56):
Get one gets on very well with Max as well
as far as I can tell, which I think might
help him a lot. He might be able to learn
quite a few things from.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Him, exactly. All right, did you see a Taney by
the way, either of you on Friday at the LA Dodgers.

Speaker 11 (01:12:11):
Didn't see it, But what I've read about it, the
remarkable what he did in one single game, Wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
That yeah, well he got a hood. It was fifty
to fifty for the season, so fifty home runs and
fifty stolen bases. But in fact he got fifty one
or fifty two stolen bases by the end of the game.
But no one literally in the history of baseball ever
has done it. That's not like a new it's a
branch making you record anyway. You enjoy you there for
a couple of days, A couple of days shopping.

Speaker 11 (01:12:35):
Oh day off, day off today on the series, having
a look around town. Another couple of happy hours to
a team fifteen dollar chicken, A couple of fifteen dollar chicken,
Schnitty's Mic and the World's a great place. Australia is fantastic.
I'm not coming home mate.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Good on you, Nice to see you and catch you
next Monday. Andrew Sebil and Goh else it's a twenty two.

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Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Sydney, Mike, we feel exactly the same, not leaving Noosa,
adore positive, great people. Sydney has it all as well,
whether people food, greatest speechesa Noos's. I'm a big fan
of NUSSA. Did you know Michael Katie Perry's the pregame
entertainment of the AFL Grand Final next Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
As it turns out, Swans be Lions. Here's the interesting thing.
If you want to see how you promote a sport
and how you expand a sport, AFL is your best example.
Note who Once upon a time it was Melbourne Melbourne,
only it was a Victorian sport. No one in Australia
cared less about it. These days it's a national sport.
And the Swans are from Sydney and the Lions are
from Brisbane and they're on the final. So not only

(01:13:37):
have they expanded the sport that the good teams are
outside of generally outside of Melbourne. Mike is at a
cafe yesterday they managed to fleece me nineteen dollars for
what they called a reuben. Description of what was in
the Ruben was very fancy and I was looking forward
to eating something I'd never eaten before. Imagine my shock
and disappointment when I served nothing more than the toasted
sandwich for nineteen dollars. Well you won't be back, Willy,
That's what I'm saying. The good people know how to

(01:13:59):
do it. Mike went to Bennett's and Munga Phire yesterday.
Qu'es out the door. I'm not surprised, see, because that
particular part of the world would have been packed over
the weekend because it was a beautiful, warm, sunny weekend.
That particular part of the world is good at the
best of times, and mung A Fire have been in
the business for a very long time, are very good
at what they do. Hence you get a cue out
the door. Mike Lydia has to be the Sportsperson of
the year possibly so actually Olympic Gold should be up

(01:14:20):
against Dame Lisa though it's a lot of medals, she's
got to be spoke so Olympic Gold, Major Champion, LPGA
Hall of Fame. I mean it's a contest, isn't it.
Bolt Cocktails, Mike. Best night I had was at a
yachting regatta party on a hill and a tiger reggae
music Martinis by the jug from a forty four gallon

(01:14:41):
drum party central so Cius lindsay.

Speaker 19 (01:14:44):
At that point it doesn't really matter what's in the martini.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Do it well, he's in the he remembered it, so
you know, good to remember the good Night's they survived
murray Olds as well as from Australia The News, which.

Speaker 23 (01:14:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
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Speaker 11 (01:15:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
He'd be very very good news. I'm sorry I didn't
get it in earlier, but when Sam started talking about
Sydney and how we should all move to Sydney and
how the place is going off, I was looking for
this piece of news to counteract it. With Auckland, the
announcement came over the weekend that the pedestrian bridge at
Wynyard Quarter is almost fixed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
No way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Absolutely so we've been without how long we've been without
it most of the year, it's been most of the
year for people outside of Auckland. There's a pedestrian bridge
that links one side of the harbor to the other
and it broke because a lot of stuff in Auckland breaks,
and when it breaks, what happens is that you need
months on end for people to meet and thin and

(01:15:59):
talk about it as opposed to just fixing it. And
so they've been meeting and thinking and talking about it,
and finally they have been able to announce. They don't
have an exact date, so it was that was the
disappointing part about then't they don't have an exact date,
but they expect it quote unquote they expect it to
be sometime in December.

Speaker 19 (01:16:21):
So yeah, it's been out of action since March eighteen.
I mean, that's good news because they were telling us
it was going to be We're going to have to
wait till.

Speaker 14 (01:16:27):
Next year Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Now that's their plant, that's where they're clever.

Speaker 19 (01:16:31):
And I've walked into that exactly into it, so I
would have if I'd been able to get the bridge working.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Back exactly so it was March and so it could
be twenty six, twenty seven. Oh no, we've done it
by December.

Speaker 19 (01:16:43):
Thank you, thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Incredible, twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 14 (01:16:47):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
It's the turnin our old Murray old back this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Make Michael very good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
And I would imagine that Elbanezi would like to be
within the quad, within the heavyweights of the global community
while he watches his popularity numbers plummet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Well indeed, the Quad meeting in Delaware. Joe Biden's I
guess his final appearance is the leader of the Quad Japan, Australia,
India and the United States. And look, it's a photo
opportunity for a prime minister who's under pressure. It doesn't
hurt your chances. I wouldn't have thought to be photographed

(01:17:28):
with the leaders of three major international democracies, including the
President of the United States. The hot mic moment, well,
I mean, I think it's probably bleedingly obvious to everybody
who's got half a brain what Joe Biden said about
China is absolutely crystal clear. Of course, China is looking

(01:17:49):
at the Quad and thinking what's it going to mean
for us in the years ahead. Joe Biden's a big
fan of the Quad, so to Albanezi, and until we
hear otherwise, I guess Peter Dutton as well. I know
a lot of labor leaders over here, Paul Keating, Bob
Carr and the like, they're all furiously anti Squad. They're
anti orcas they say, China is the big player in

(01:18:11):
our backyard, and we should cut our apron strings that
tire us to Washington. That's not going to happen either.
So look, it's interesting the quad Albanez. He took the
chance to go and be photographed with the president, but
he's got problems back at home as you, as you
mentioned Mike exactly. So what see.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
It seems to me that you've got the economy, the
constat living thing. You've got your Reserve Bank meeting this week.
My sink to it as they're not going to cut yet.
So you've got economic problems. You have unemployment numbers come
out the other day they were steady in the reasonable levels.
But you've got this migration thing whereby and I suppose
it's your own fault for being popular people want to
flood into the country.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Quite a lot of talking points in that long question
of yours, but I mean tic tic tech right across
the border. I mean, let's look at the latest opinion poll.
To start with Labors that are at the lowest point
in terms of news poll for almost twelve months, thirty
one percent, the coalition thirty eight percent. When you strip

(01:19:09):
out all the other bits and pieces, and you know
we have preferential voting over here, so your second preferences count,
it's fifty to fifty, so too close to call. If
we had we had an election this weekend, you'd probably
have Labor over the line facts the support of the Greens.
So it's extremely tight for Albanezi. And as you say, immigration,
the whole business of Palestinian visas, and of course the

(01:19:32):
housing stink and that is just enormous. That's really marked
down the Labor government here. But Labour's and a bind Mike,
as you know, we can't do anything without the support
of either the Coalition or the Greens, and both those
two other parties miraculously have lined up politically to oppose
what Labour wants to do. Now, the Greens on the

(01:19:52):
weekend have come out and said listen, we will back
your support a big apartner. We will support your plan
to reform the Reserve Bank of Australia by introducing a
second board with exclusive control of a monetary policy. But
on the condition that if the Reserve Bank does not
move tomorrow and cut interest rates, the government steps in,

(01:20:14):
and it has this power legislatively it can step in
and unilaterally cut rates. Well, I mean that's just pine
the sky stuff from the weirdos in the Greens. I mean,
Labour's never going to do that, and Dunton never would either.
So labor's in a rock at a hard place. The
numbers are very, very poor for labor, but politically it's
jammed and there's not a hell of a lot albit

(01:20:35):
easy can do. And there's no way known the Reserve
Bank is going to be forced by the government to
cut rates.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Tomorrow, and nor should they because of course they're independent
and they should be independent. That's why you have independent organizations.
So and it increased the three hundred and eighty eight thousand.
Is there any sort of agreement as to what's an
acceptable number and water isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
No, it depends that you talk to you on any
day of the week. I mean, you know net three
eighty eight was at four and fifty last year. Does
the coalution want two hundred and twenty? Look, it's they're
just numbers plucked out of the air, thrown against you know,
a spitboard, And it just depends who you talk to.
For political purposes, the Coalition is howling from the rooftops.

(01:21:16):
Labor is weak, Labor is pathetic, Labor letting too many people,
and look at the clog roads. You can't get a house,
you can't get a rental. But the other side of that,
of course, is that foreign students, which are the overwhelming
number of migranc here. Foreign students contribute forty billion dollars
to the Australian economy billion amazing, And the argument there,

(01:21:36):
of course goes will hang on a second. If we've
got all these foreign students coming in, what about ossie kids.
Ossie kids pay a fraction of the price for their degrees.
It's a big business proposition for our universities over here.
So the government is damned if you do, damned if
you don't. I mean, who wants to be who wants
to be a politician?

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Exactly? I was reading something in the Sydney Morning Hero
of the weekend. They were doing average incomes required to
buy houses in certain parts of Sydney. I mean, admittedly
they were nicer parts of Sydney, but you're needing a
wage of half a million dollars and that's you know,
for your a question.

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
I mean, you know, primary teachers are getting one hundred
thousand dollars a year, police officer, one hundred and ten
nurses eighty nine ninety thousand dollars. I mean, hello, who
can afford on those wages to buy a home in Sydney.
It's just ridiculous. But what do you do? How do
you fix that? And the other thing I thought you
might like. Friday afternoon, after we spoke last Friday in

(01:22:31):
the Senate, some figures were tabled about the visa question
with the Palestinians who have been granted visas to come
to Australia. The opposition's been screaming, oh, they've been allowed
and they're going to they haven't been vetted properly, blah
blah blah. You know who's coming here, don't you? Women
and children? Yes, And ASIO, which is the domestic spy

(01:22:51):
service we have here in Australia. It stood up in
the Senate and said, listen, can you just dial down
the hysterics. Of course we are checking these people. Of
course we are checking the bono Fridays. They go through
eight separate lots of checks. So and the opposition side,
can you shut up because all you're doing is making
people anxious out in the suburbs.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Exactly? All right, mate, go well we'll catch up Wednesday.
Murray Olds across the Tasman. By the way, the other
thing I read about housing in Australia over the weekend.
The share of interest only lines is at twenty percent
twenty plus percent for the June quarter. That's the highest
level since twenty nineteen. Counteracted a little bit. A lot
of its investors and often people who buy, you know,
rental homes, investment homes, whatever, do it on an interest
free only but they worry that there's a there's a

(01:23:32):
pressure building up in the old housing landscape that might
come back and bite them in the bun eight forty five, The.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Be Mike, it's thirteen minutes twenty minutes away from My
favorite cocktailer is an espresso Martini. We tried the tap version.
A lot of you people have been arguing that you've
been to places here in this country that do do
tap keg whatever cocktails. Anyway, we tried the tap version
at a bar at Auckland. Not sure if this was
the same brand, but one hundred percent not the same

(01:24:04):
fun for a novelty, I wouldn't buy it again. Mike
saw an interview in the last couple of days with Horner.
I saw the same thing. This is Christian Horner. They
had a red Bull in which he said they have
to check how Liam would go against Beerman. This is
Oli Bearman. Oli Beerman's racing for Hals next to you
and a guy they had an Air three A Hadaja Well,

(01:24:26):
I think that's his name anyway. It's just that he
doesn't want to dump a mate. Riccardo, it's already done. Look,
just just believe me, it's already over. And I'll have
more than that in a moment. So they've got a
three week gap, They've got six races left. They've got
the three coming up, which is in Austin and Texas,
then they go to Mexico, then they go to South America,
then a small break before they go to Las Vegas,
and then they do the final two races for the

(01:24:47):
season in the in the Middle East. So that's basically
where it's at. But the deal is done. And you
can tell you you didn't have to be a rocket
scientist to work out that the Riccardo knows, Lawson knows everybody.
It's just as Ted Krabitz said, I think over the weekend,
you know why they don't do these things more cleanly
and clearly. I have no idea, and you know, just

(01:25:07):
just get on with it and announce it. It is
ten away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
The Mike Costing breakfast with al Vida retirement communities.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Given away from I forgot to mention that the European
Union over the weekend announced their lending Ukraine by about
sixty billion New Zealand dollars and you will decide how
best to use it. Zelenska notes off to America this
week for more pressure on Biden before he leaves. He
must be absolutely beside himself that Trump's going to win.

(01:25:36):
And if Trump wins, that's the end of the money. Anyway,
this will be This will free more of your national
resources to strengthen and then, for example, your military capabilities
to defend yourself against the Russian aggression they're doing. They've
got these assets frozen, the Russians, or Russian assets in Europe.
They've got about four hundred and fifty billion dollars worth

(01:25:59):
of Russian assets in Europe frozen. Their thinking is that
somehow that's going to be loosened at some point made available,
at which point Zelenski gets to pay back the loan.
How they think that's going to work. I'm not one
hundred percent sure, but I don't think they worry about

(01:26:21):
that stuff anymore when it comes to debt, the global
debt they've also worked out over the weekend. By the way,
if you didn't see this, that COVID quote unquote beyond
reasonable doubt started with infected animals at the market. It's
not a lab, it's not a leak conspiracy. Theorists, put
your pens down. It's over short list of animals. They
looked at the raccoon dogs, the sibits, and the bamboo

(01:26:42):
rats in the markets team in the US and France.
They performed even more advanced genetic analysis on all of this.
Analyzing millions of short fragments of genetic code. Both DNA
and RNA established what animals and viruses were in the
market in January. Back in twenty twenty. This is all
written up in a journal called Cell. We find a

(01:27:02):
very consistent story in terms of this pointing even at
the level of a single stall to the market as
being the very likely origin of this particular pandemic.

Speaker 19 (01:27:13):
So it wasn't even bats, it wasn't what It wasn't
even bats or pangolins, or it might have just been rats.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
So well, that's pretty boring.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Bamboo rat, bamboo rat, or a sibbot or a raccoon dog,
but no, not a bat, not a bat and not
a lab.

Speaker 19 (01:27:31):
So we're going to stop calling it the bat flu.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
And not a leak. It's Ober five minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Now Redley and Lawson. So these rumors all over the
weekend they went into Singapore that it could only it
could not only be you know, Ricardo's sort of getting replaced,
but he was replaced as of this weekend. Brundle, no
less as in Martin. He came out and he also
said that Lawson will replace Ricardo. And that's and that's
that's what I'm trying to say with the story. Every
body knows it's a done decision. And and what's his name,

(01:28:03):
Horner was busy trying to talk about how the possibility is.
And we've got a three week break and we'll have
a bit of a chat and we'll see where things
are at, and it's all my mean, come on, anyway,
Ricardo did his final interview and and you sort of
got the seats he knows as well.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Yeah, uh, well.

Speaker 23 (01:28:22):
I Yeah, a lot of a lot of emotions because look,
I'm aware it could it could be it, And yeah,
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
It's also just exhausted after the race.

Speaker 23 (01:28:35):
So there's so much I don't know, just like a
flood of many emotions and feelings and.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
Exhaustion, and yeah, the cockpit is something that.

Speaker 19 (01:28:52):
I got very very used to for many years.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
And yeah, just just one of those save of the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Right, So you're telling me they haven't made a decision,
and so Horner can stand there. I'm not a big
fan of Christian Horner, to be honest, the way he
conducts himself. So he stands there throughout the weekend going no, no,
nothing's been decided. We'll all get together. And you got
that guy who knows full well his career is over.
He got knocked out. He didn't even get out of
Q one, and Sonoda did once again, by the way,

(01:29:26):
when he talks about exhaustion of the race. Because of
course at Singapore, Lewis, Hamilton and Russell didn't turn up
for their post media interviews. They were literally exhausted on
drips the whole thing. When you're racing in thirty one
degrees and one hundred and thirty thousand percent humidity. Things
tend to get a bit warm and the old cockpit
there we go. One day could have been worse. That's

(01:29:47):
what we say here on the Mic Hosking Breakfast, Isn't
it The Mic Hosking Breakfast could.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Have been worse.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Back tomorrow at six as always, have you that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
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