Full Show Podcast: 24 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What big news, bold opinions, The Mic Hosking Breakfast with a.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Veda Live the Age You Feel News Talk, said Ben.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, you welcome today's stuff that doesn't work and what
to do about it. Getting tough with young criminals and
getting tamped with downtown crime as the cops hit the
streets in larger numbers. We got Jetstar expanding their services.
We got the lads doing the sport in the commentary box,
Richard Arnold and se Price. They rock up as Wellhasky,
my New Week, welcome to it. Seven past six. So
here's the real problem with the ferry running at ground.
It comes in the same week as the plane not working,

(00:31):
and it came in the same week as the transmission
tower fell over. It's pathetic. This country is on its knees.
It's embarrassing. As we said last week. The upside is
it might just be so embarrassing we actually now get
around to doing something about it. Key, we Rail need
an investigation into how they've run the business. I note sadly.
Helen Clark yet again weighed in via social media with

(00:51):
another of a petty barbs about canceling the ferry contract.
What we need at this point in time are adults
read the papers that have been released publicly. Bewe in
kie Rail and Grant Robertson even he was aghast at
the blowout and the ferry budget, despite Kibi Rail over
and over again reassuring him their latest estimate was the
final figure until it wasn't. When Grant Robertson is a

(01:13):
ghast to to blowout, you know it's gargantuan. So this
is as much on Kiwi Rail as it is on
any government. But you can only embarrass yourself so much
and so often before that becomes part of the country's psyche.
A recession is one thing, and it's outworking has an
effect on us all, both physically and psychologically. But you
want to, in some way at all times, feel there's
something about this place that is decent and proper and rewarding.

(01:35):
You want to feel good about your country. The Prime
Minister can't travel the world promoting business and saying we're
open when the planes don't fly and the ferry runs
into stuff and the powers out because the towers fall.
Labor we must do better. We have to wake up
to the fact this country has in many respects been
run into the ground. It looks increasingly third world. The
fear is the battle between the size of those who

(01:56):
care and those who don't. Is not that obvious to
me at the moment. The fact we can be in
this miss in all former MPs can do as snipe
is an increasing worry. We are reaping what we sowed.
If this doesn't strike you as an emergency, we are
in deeper trouble than I thought.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So let's start with the UK rice, where we have
yet another Tory been questioned about bidding on the election date.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
But there is a system, there is a process. The
Gambling Commission are doing the investigation that is appropriate if
people have acted in appropriately. I'm not going to defend that.
I'm were happy to condemn.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
That labor and doing the abustro pretend this isn't a
poor gone conclusion.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
I speak to a lot of people who've yet to
make their minds up in the seats where we need
to win. But what the Tories are doing, very very
cynically is a vault suppression strategy. They want people to
think this is all in the bag, don't worry about it.
You don't need to come out and involved.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Other problem the to is here as the spect of
Nigel Faraje ending up running them.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
The kind of snake oil that Nigel Farage is peddling,
in my view, has no place in our democratic politics.
I hope we will not hear anymore from any of
my colleagues in the Conservative parties suggesting that there is
a route for Nigel Farage into the Conservative Party.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Then step side first of the two de bites this week,
of course, buden by Trump, this looks to be the
way the dams are going to play it.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
The fact of the matter is that the sky is
blue sometimes and Donald Trump is a convicted felon, and
the American people have to sit in that for a second.
The person who wants to be president has to go
sit with this probation officer before he actually goes to
the debate. And so it is just a fact.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Frank Luntz, who's one to be higher profile polsters, he's
got worries.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
And so I'm going to be watching not just for
the cute quip or trying to figure out who won
or lost, but I'm going to be watching American reactions
and whether or not this adds to our discontent and
our division or whether it begins to heal it.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
And of course they have the weather New Mexico pretty
hot right now.

Speaker 9 (03:54):
It's been a hell of a week here between dust, heat, flooding.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
We've got flooding a vacuums in the north where one
of the largest wildfires.

Speaker 9 (04:03):
In the history of the US. It's been really tough
on the Mexicans.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
In true French style, we have a protest upset at
the cost of cleaning up the Sene River at two
point eight billion dollars in counting. The mass protest has
been planned for people to come down and do a
pooh in the river. Latest report out over the weekend
tells us the water was still too dirty to swim,
and this is five weeks up from the Olympics. Of course,
slogan on the protest as website says they have plunged
us into shit and now it's their turn to plunge

(04:30):
into our shit. Today was supposed to be the day
the Paris mayor said she would swim in the sign
but it wasn't clean enough, so she didn't. Let as
news of the world in ninety seconds. That's, by the way,
just briefly, the guy's name on the beating scandal's guy
called Nick Mason. He's the fourth senior Conservative now he's
the party's chief data officer, allegedly placed dozens of bets

(04:53):
could have generated hundreds of thousands of pounds of winnings.
He says it's not appropriate to comment, no kidding. He's
also a Conservative counselor in Hertfordshire. By the way, he's
now taken leave of absence from the Tory Party roll
eleven days from the election. So I mean you couldn't
You couldn't draw up a bigger mess if you set
up to draw up a big mess.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Twelve past six the Mike Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Democracy Watch Malawi has got themselves a new vice president
over the weekend, goy called Lucy Michael. Lucy, he's been
swornen because the other guy, Chealma you remember, died in
the plane crash the other day. Anyway, USI is a
former comedian turn politician, very Zelensky, and that has Malawian's
divine and of course wondering whether he's up for the
job at the same year. So he's been sworn and
we wish him well. Fifteen past six and Jmi wel

(05:36):
Hendrew Keller had good Monday morning. Yeah, very good morning
to you mate. Now we've got international reads on services
and manufacturing and they seem to be going one way
as a post to New Zealand, which is going the other.

Speaker 10 (05:47):
Yeah, at a little bit mixed with shifting the focus
offshore this morning. We've had some pretty poor shall we
use the word poor data recently. Yeah, a week or
so ago we had our PMI and PSIS, which is
our services and manufacturing sector barometers. Yeah, they were awful.
An another set of statistics to the sort of reminiscent

(06:09):
of the economy post the GFC. That's the sort of
space we're in. So the PMI was forty three, the
pm I was forty seven point two, say, both very
week and within them the forward looking indicators like new
ors et cetera, where especially were or are especially concerning.
So late last week we got an update on these
indicators from around the world. And the issue here, Mike,
is that we looked, we looked at that stage very

(06:31):
out of sync. So we've got an update on this
relative performance. So the US S and P global PMI
fifty one point seven, it's expanding. It actually improved from
fifty one point three. The services PMI fifty five point one.
Our one was what were we forty three? That was
up from fifty four point eight. So the US services

(06:52):
sector print was the fastest pace of US activity for
the service sector in more than two years. They do
this component and next roll the two of them together.
That ticked up to a twenty six month high. Now,
while this is potentially not what the Fed wants to see,
you know that sort of economic strength. Embedded in the
report was evidence of price pressures easing and colling. So

(07:13):
composite measure of prices eased to the second lowest level
since twenty twenty in growth and inputs costs also called
so this sort of soft landing scenario unlikely as it seems,
could still occur. Not so good in Europe's slump and
manufacturing sector. Their services sector held it well, but manufacturing
forty five point six. They were expecting that to come
in a forty seven point nine. The service sector has

(07:36):
said an expansion. France looking particularly weak. You've now got
to overlay political uncertainty there as well. Japan also a
little bit weaker, services sector dipping into.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
A contraction for the first time in about.

Speaker 10 (07:47):
Two years, albeit just forty nine point eight, and the UK,
the UK might both of those indicators p mips I
both above fifty. So there's evidence of softening numbers around
the world, but the US stands out as being much
more resilient than other economies, and our numbers still look
grim by comparison.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yes they do. And part of that story is, of
course Retail and Catman do cam in g They've had
a roller coaster over the last few years, haven't they.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Well, yeah, but it's a roller coaster that's just not
there's no uphillberts, it's all downhill bits. So another earning
guidance out on Friday from the retail set to Catman
do remember what I mentioned the other day, Mike that
when you get one of these, you're often looking for
the next one. Well, this is the situation here. So
a situation update from Catman do not. Unexpectedly sales are
softer than they had been expecting. So you're looking at

(08:34):
the first four months of the second half of their
financial year. Their financial year goes to thirty one July. Look,
there was a sort of a positive spin on this
because in the announcement, because They've got the three brands,
rip cl, Catman Do and Oboz Obos being the outdoor
sort of hiking footwear that Rip Curl and Catman do.
Their sales have been an improvement on the first half

(08:57):
sales trend which was very weak, So the second half
not quite as bad as the first half, but the
sales are slower than had been expected, so you've got
a slower start to the key winter promotional period. First
three weeks of the winter sale of their winter sale
are eleven and a half percent below last year. That's
quite a big chunk. New Zealand is notably weaker than Australia.

(09:21):
Look Catman Do maybe losing the competitive RaSE to people
like mack Pack, but the retail environments is very tough
and not going to turn around the short term. Ripkel
continues to be a bit more resilient than the Capmen
Do and Obos brands. They're so second half so far
five point nine percent fall in sales, but Obo's down
over twenty one percent. They're now expecting full your earnings

(09:41):
to be approximately fifty MILI. That's below recent analyst forecasts.
They've had to go to their banks and renegotiate their
banking covenants share prices at forty cents. It's down ah
about forty seven cents.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
So far this year. Give us the other numbers well.

Speaker 10 (09:58):
The Dale Jones on Friday we went up, went up fifteen points,
was not much thirty nine thousand, one hundred and fifty.
The S and P five hundred was down small five
four six four, and then AS that was also down
small point one eight percent. Seventeen thousand, six hundred and
eighty nine. The footsy one hundred eight two three seven
down point four to two percent. Nick A barely moved
three eight five nine six, the Shanghai composite down about

(10:21):
a quarter percent two nine nine eight, the A six
as X two.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Hundred seven seven nine five.

Speaker 10 (10:27):
It was up twenty seven points on Friday, but we
lost eighty nine points on the INSIDEX fifty three quarters
of percent were now lower than we were at the
start of the eleven thousand, six hundred and eighty two
one Kiwi dollar point six one one six against the
US put nine two oh seven, Ossi point five to
seven one nine Euro point four eight three four pounds
ninety seven point six six. Japanese end goal is at

(10:50):
two thousand three hundred and twenty one dollars and break
Crew had closed the week out above eighty five bucks,
eighty five dollars and twenty four cents.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
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(11:18):
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to be sold tonight, part of a select number of
tracks pressed and distributed for television and radio stations prior
to the records released back in nineteen sixty two and
nine thousand quid eighteen thousand dollars. Goodness Sake, What Cost
of Living? Crisis six twenty one? Here a news talk

(11:40):
zed B do.

Speaker 11 (11:41):
You get on this label?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I'm having get this.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Beer the mic Hosking Breakfast Mike I was on the
ferry on Friday night. Yes, it did have eight drivers,
but it was full of swap trailers. Just because it
says eight drivers does not mean it wasn't. That's I'm
very pleased to hear that, because I'll tell you what,
No one's making money with eight drivers at the moment, Mike.
I heard over the weekend that the north pylon that
fell had some bolts removed for maintenance, but as the
power lines are extra heavy in that area, the remaining

(12:05):
bolts could not hold the weight and let go a
bit cha. How many pubs and how many rooms and
how many social gatherings over the weekend was full of
chat about I tell you what, did you hear this?
I heard that too. Did he tell you? He did
tell me, Mike, those pylons had bolts removed? Obviously sabotage.
It's amazing. There's something. I believe it's a post COVID thing,
the conspiracy thinking in this country, and I think it's

(12:26):
probably all over the world, the conspiracy thinking in this country.
There's no question in my mind. One o'clock this afternoons,
the press conference, they've already worked out what's going on,
because not hard to work out what's gone on. They're idiots,
and so they've worked out who the idiots are, and
hopefully they've sacked a few people. But as for sabotage,
no one's tell you what. Let's teach them a lesson.
Let's unbolt this and knock it over that it's not real.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
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Speaker 3 (12:52):
Every day reaction videos end well normally for the warriors,
and I'm everyone takes the mickey of me once again.
My wife filmed me. But this this Saturday night was
it was as bad as it gets. So you can't
even catch the ball exactly, you can't. You got to
turn that around.

Speaker 12 (13:13):
Tullivisa ship is in the bit, say is serious?

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Don't worry about it, mate, that's absolutely unforgivable. No, that's
a try. That's a try all day long to rule
us out to scandal old look at I mean, what
the hell's that? Go?

Speaker 13 (13:37):
Go?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Good try? Good man sucked in?

Speaker 13 (13:42):
Good?

Speaker 12 (13:43):
Say this game has been ruined the beneficial Yeah, good on.
Yet let's finish it off with a good sixty six
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
I've never seen anything like it. Where's the shot of
Webster or as he jumped out of the box? Plenty
more where that came from? Left on the cutting room floor,
Go to my wife's Instagram. It's all there. But I
think I was right in retrospect. I think I was
right that this allowed try shouldn't have been two of
Arsischick shouldn't have been sent off. But as I said

(14:20):
earlier on the prege, and there's no I mean, what's
the point when you're losing six to six six. There's
a lot of other stuff You've got to be more
worried about, don't you. The Maori Party yet again seemed
to be in even more trouble than they were before.
If you're not up on this branded fan thing and
it's got I'm sure we've been here before with the
whole charity. You can't go round backing political parties anyway.

(14:43):
I'll explain more in just a couple of moments after
the news, which is next.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
To demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic
Hosking breakfast with Jaguar, the Art of Performance news togs.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
He'd be just to work you through this. Have you're
not up to speed? There's a multiple agency in quite
into the business of the Manawa Marai running a marai
as an electorate outletter or voting out letter of polling booth.
And whether people were collecting information for the census, whether
they're collecting it for the vaccine jab, what they were
doing with that information, how much of that's illegal, whether

(15:16):
they're photocoping it off, whether they were sending tents. I mean,
it's just a miriad of stuff to look into. Now,
we got a van that TakaTak kemp was wandering around
and she being the MP of course twelve seater used
in her bid for the Auckland seat last year, wrapped
in her branding, featured prominently in her marketing campaign. Now,
what's wrong with the van with branding? Well, unfortunately it's

(15:37):
owned by her Mauri, which is a charity and charities
cannot participate in the business of politics. Charities are restricted
in what political activities they can engage in. We've been
here before. The Wiperra Trust John Tammahery happens to be
the president of the aforementioned party, the Maori Party has
been here before. They must not support or oppose particular

(15:57):
parties or candidates, and yet they own a van which
has got her face stuck all over the side of it.
This includes making a donation to a political party or
candidate's election campaign, which is where Tammahiy came in, of course,
endorsing a party or a candidate, or allowing a party
or a candidate to use charity resources. It would appear
this as a shambles, that there's abuse all over the place.
We'll get to the bottom of it eventually. The really
interesting thing I want to find out is what happens next.

(16:21):
It appears to me at first blush that there's a
whole bunch of breaches here, whether they get to the
bottom of them or not, and whether or not you
can go to a Mariah many months after an election
and say, you know that information you had on the
seats is what did you do with it? When did
you do with it? Can we prove it? Was it photocopied,
how did you use it? Et cetera. I don't know,
but this thing's are complete and utter shambles. And the
Prime Minister sitting here a couple of weeks ago in

(16:42):
the studio trying to explain that we want to get
to the bottom so we can all feel confident. I
don't think we're going to get anywer close twenty one
minutes away from seven to bake Wick stateside, Biden v.
Trump because old Wat's his name. Kennedy didn't make the
grave not work. You through that in a couple of moments,
Richard Donold whether shortly meantime Infrastructure New Zealand you can't make.
You can't make the past week up, between the planes

(17:04):
that don't work, the pylons that fall over, and now
the ferries you can't steer. This country looks awfully third world,
doesn't it. Infrastructure New Zealand's Michelle and McCormick's with us
on all of this. Michelle, good morning.

Speaker 14 (17:12):
To you, Good morning Mite.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Do you find it embarrassing extremely?

Speaker 9 (17:17):
I think it's terrible for New Zealand's reputation, and you
know it's not just the ferry, the airplane, and we
will see problems with our metrorail network as well at
the last week.

Speaker 15 (17:28):
Yeah, I'm hugely concerning.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
How bad do you reckon it is? If you peel
back and just look top down, how bad a shape
are we in?

Speaker 9 (17:37):
I think it's right across our infrastructure sectors. And I
think it's really symptom metic of our ongoing in for
decades lack of investment in maintenance infrastructure commissions. You know,
their latest report said that we should be spending sixty
percent of our infrastructure investment on maintenance. It's not politically
that exciting, but we need to be doing it. We

(17:59):
need to maintain what we have, and I mean in
terms of could have been worth absolutely those theories. You know,
both situations could have ended up in a loss of life,
huge environmental damage. It's yeah, usually worrying.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I've suggested, and I'm interested to see whether you agree
it's got so bad at least we're now going to
do something about it, I assume, yep.

Speaker 15 (18:23):
I agree. I hope so.

Speaker 9 (18:24):
And it's good to hear that they're meeting to discuss
the theories they have the advisory report that ongoing switting
the assets is really coming home to roost.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, when you do. When you say you've got individual problems,
I mean you can't blame the Air Force because they
don't get the money, so, but you can blame key
we Rail because they don't seem up to much. So
you've got individual sets of circumstances. Then if somebody wants
to stand on a hillside in the middle of Northland
unbolted thing and it falls over, that's not really infrastructural investment,
is it. That's just sort of kind of idiocy.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
Yeah, and maybe a lack of skills and knowledge. Our
set management has been severely leaked. Do we have the
capability and do we have the whip force capacity to
actually really support what we have?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
All of these are very good questions. Are you remotely
confident that if we applied ourselves today and said enough's enough,
we've got to get our act together, we can.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
I think we can get on the path to doing that,
but it's not going to happen overnight. It really needs
a focus, concentrated, ongoing effort in not just jumping at
the latest shiny piece of equipment. We actually really need
to change our whole culture.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, said Michelle, appreciate it. Michelle mcormick, who's with the
Infrastructure New Zealand nineteen minutes away from seven, tasking on
that broadly, very reassured to see this poll that came
out over the weekend. As far as FasTrak is concerned,
if you listen to the media, it's all full of
winging and moaning and whining and protests. No one wants
fast track, no one wants things built, no one wants
things speed up. But forty four percent support at thirty

(19:51):
two percent don't, so that's a win. Forty four to
thirty two. Twenty four don't know, which doesn't surprise me
because it's a fairly convoluted old thing. And when you're
doing call what is it specifically you're talking about? Is
it dams? Is it roads? Is at bridges? But forty
four to thirty two at least we've got a tangible
read that most people in this country actually want to
get on with it. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1 (21:10):
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Speaker 2 (21:14):
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Speaker 3 (21:15):
Mike, why is the government expected to buy new fairies?
Quey Rail are a commercial entity like Brubridge and near
New Zealand. Let me come back to that, Mike, Give
it to me GOALRHS caunt escape conviction today. Can she
another good question? Or come back to that? In the
second state side Richard Arnold, Good morning, call me old
fashioned Richard. But I'll tell you what I'm actually excited
about Friday, our time.

Speaker 16 (21:36):
It's going to be a key moment. I think there's
no doubt about that. Whatever people think about the two
competing presidential contenders, or even about the whole process of
political debates of Biden and Trump. Encounter would be the
first time these two men have been in the same
room since this I'm not going to answer the question
a general.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
Rasal left.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (22:00):
One of the rowdy clashes from their last session October
twenty twenty, the debate which took the political process down
to a sort of new low Ebb. Back then, even
the moderator was brought into the mayhem. Here was Chris
Wallace trying to bring some calm to the situation.

Speaker 17 (22:14):
Yes, it's a very important to understood.

Speaker 16 (22:17):
No the answer to the no Ukraine, No, sir.

Speaker 14 (22:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (22:22):
So now they're older and wiser, right, Well, not exactly,
says Trump recently about his opponent Trucker. Joe's going to
a log cabin to study prepare.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 17 (22:36):
He's sleeping now because they want to get him good
and strong.

Speaker 11 (22:42):
So a little before debate time he gets they're shot.

Speaker 16 (22:45):
The well so called log cabin is the presidential retreat camp, David.
We're not talking about the Udi bomber here. The shot
in the bleep is the unfounded Trump claim that during
the last State of the Union Biden was quote jacked
up in quote was that due they to cocaine lying
around the White House. Meantime, Biden is amping up his
critique of Trump as well. Here's something of what he's saying,

(23:08):
the threat that.

Speaker 17 (23:08):
Trump poses greater in his second term than those first.
It's clearly when he lost in twenty twenty, something literally
snapped in the sky. Now he's running again, and it's
clearly on hand.

Speaker 16 (23:19):
Yeah, so there should be a calm, respectful exchange of ideas.
Right Well, that is not what debate hosts the and
NDA is concerned about. They have Jake Tapper and Dana
Basher's moderators in a series of new debates rules in place,
including no audience members in the environment and Mike Cutting
switches to the two presidential one of his own shout
over the top of each other for about ninety percent

(23:40):
of the time. Meanwhile, Trump says his VP presidential pick
will be in the House. In the Atlanta studio, he's
saying that he hasn't even told this person person, but
he says, in my mind, yeah, I've chosen somebody. Most
sources suggest it's either Doug Berg and the North Dakota
governor who were well. He used to say he would

(24:00):
never do business with Trump, but now he says.

Speaker 15 (24:03):
When he makes that decision is solely up to him,
and he's the guy that controls the criteria.

Speaker 11 (24:08):
If there's never been a better politician, a better debate,
a better.

Speaker 16 (24:11):
Communicator, really not Reagan, not jfk and JD. Vince, the
Ohio junior senator who says he is a certainly up
for the VP job and Hissingking. At least that's what
he's saying now in earlier times not so. As GOO
Fox News hosts Britt Beer remind Advance about some of
his previous comments about Donald Trump.

Speaker 18 (24:29):
You said, I've never I'm a never Trump guy, never
liked him, terrible candidate, idiot if you voted for him,
might be America's hitler, might be a cynical ahole, cultural heroine,
noxious and reprehensible. Those are things that the left is
going to come after you and they're probably going to
be put in ads. Should you be chosen as the
VP pick.

Speaker 11 (24:50):
How do you deal with them?

Speaker 13 (24:51):
Now?

Speaker 18 (24:52):
Yeah, I think the simple answer is you've got to
respect the American people enough to.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Just level with him. Look, I was wrong about Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Wow again, what's the weather forecast?

Speaker 16 (25:02):
By the way, blistering hot, horrible deathifying. Yeah, the suven
season up here is gicked off with what Nick calling
a heat dome. This is something of a new term
describing how heat alerts are hitting over one hundred million
folks in this country at the moment, will continue to
set records for some days. They expect. Boiling temps are
affecting many sports, including Washington and Baltimore.

Speaker 14 (25:23):
The thing I can tell you don't come outside.

Speaker 16 (25:25):
Well it used to be, you know, I go out
and have a barbecue. We'll get to the beach if
you have the opportunity.

Speaker 14 (25:30):
But no.

Speaker 16 (25:31):
Bill nine, who's been known on television here as the
science guy, says.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
It's the beginning of the new normal. The latest research
is that there's not a turning point or a tipping point,
or a knee in the curve. It's just going to
get hotter and hotter and worse and worse and more
and more extreme.

Speaker 16 (25:45):
Well that's encouraging, isn't There are problems also in Iowa,
North Dakota and Minnesota. As I say, blistering temps all
over much of the USA.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right, stay cool and we'll see Wednesday. Richard Islands sight
Side nine to seven.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
The Mist Breakfast with Bailey News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mike can don't ever get the bridge at the viaduct
close for months and helping destroy businesses through lack of access.
Imagine that happening in Singapore's a very good point. I
got caught up with that on the weekend. I didn't
realize I've been caught up with it until I was
caught up in it, but we were. It's a kilometer
and a half. My daughter told me she's staying at
a hotel. She wanted to go to a restaurant on
the other side of the thing. Couldn't cross the bridge,
et cetera. Walked around to kill a meter and a
half as opposed to about three hundred meters if you

(26:22):
walk across the bridge, So kill a meter and a half.
There a kill a meter and a half back, and
it's just ridiculous. Mike, Why is the government expected to
buy a new ferries, Kiwi rail or a commercial entity.
Yes they are, but they're not making any money. They
don't have the three and a half billion dollars. Do
be aware, and this is an individual aspect of the
story that project their whole. Let's get some new fairies
and build some new warves. That started out as a

(26:43):
seven hundred and fifty million dollar job. It was at
three point four or five billion before Grant Robertson. Even
Grant Robertson blew Is lit at that. That's how bad
things were getting. They don't have the money is what
it boils down to. And when government needed is don't
have the money, they go to the government, Mike, give
it to me. Goldris Cart escape conviction, Well she can,
of course, if you don't have a record, you can
be discharged without conviction. She's pled guilty. That'll be taken

(27:05):
into account. But I mean, I would be astonished if
she got off with nothing. But it'll be interesting to
see what's handed down today. Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Bill, the ins and the Outs, it's the Fizz on
the Mike Husking Breakfast on News Talk sed.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
B Now from Zesbury Forecast for the export season. News
is good. Broadly speaking, we're on track to deliver our
largest crop ever. Goal is to do four and a
half billion in global sales this season four and a
half billions good bucks. Last year was three nine nine
yields okay for twenty four to twenty five are they're
going to pack one hundred and ninety seven million trays.
Last season was a record for tray returns, especially for gold,

(27:44):
so they were always expected to come down a little bit.
But the per hector returns for Green key we freu
it expected to be at record level, so that's good.
So per tray in March, the forecast for Green was
seven to eight fifty. Now it's between seven to fifty
and eight to fifty a little bit of an increase midpoint.
Per hector midpoint increases from eighty three to eighty six
thousand dollars gold per tray price has dropped a little bit,

(28:06):
ten to eleven fifty down to ten to eleven twenty
five smidge down. Per hector midpoint has dropped from one
hundred and fifty five thousand one hundred and fifty two perjected.
I don't have anything on the reds. We had some
reds that had reds over the Weekend's very small market
reds at the moment, but it's going to go gangbusters.
What I couldn't understand at the weekend. Kathy Hokel, who
was the New York Governor, signed the bill on social

(28:28):
media and so it's the Safe for Kids Act. Requires
social media companies to restrict addictive feeds for social media
users under the age of eighteen. Also bar notifications from
social media platforms related to the feeds between the hours
of midnight and six unless they've got parental consent. Would
require new age verification and parental consent tools to be
sent by the state Attorney General. So I'm looking at

(28:48):
the story and I'm thinking, what the obvious what's the
obvious question? Now you're testing my technical expertise or lack
of here, But tell me how a tech company does
what they normally do, except all of a sudden, for
kids in New York. Tell me technically how that works.
And of course, as far as I can work out,
it doesn't. So you're sending out all your normal feeds,

(29:09):
doing all your normal things, except if the kid happens
to be in Manhattan, that magically doesn't go through to
their phone anymore. How does that actually work? And why
did nobody ask those most obvious of questions when a
politician simply signing pieces of paper and think they're going
to make a difference. Right, Let's talk about fairies and
farmic and stuff like that with David Seymour after the News,
which is next.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
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Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well seven past seven of the government didn't have enough
on its hand with the economic plight that we're currently
grinding our way through. Then a whole bunch of stuff
fell over or fell apart, and the last week pylons
to planes to fairies. Interestingly, the government ran for the
hills a bit over this one. Transport Minister sime and
Brown and want to talk state owned enterprises and Minister
Paul Goldsmith didn't want to. Minister of Finance Nikola Willison
and want to talk. Fortunately, Associate Finance Minister David Seymour

(30:04):
does and he's with us. Good morning, good morning, way
this faery business over the weekend, did you have a
sinking feeling by the time the power pylon fell over
and the plane didn't take off and the ferry hit
the wall, that there's something a bit wrong with this country.

Speaker 19 (30:17):
Yeah, it feels like we're a nation and decline and
the question is are we going to tweak it or
are we going to change it. I've long taken the
view that if we keep doing what we've done, then
we're going to get the same results. And instead of saying, well,
you know, we'll have a different person in charge of
Kiwi Rail, we'll have maybe some different theories purchased by

(30:41):
Kiwi Rail. The real question is how one private business
can run successfully for twenty years and no tax payer
money and a government business constantly requires bailouts. And maybe
that's telling us something about our future.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Okay, so the chairman's already gone to the whole board
need to go? Does the whole thing need to be
refreshed and or does the Fury service need to be
run by someone completely different?

Speaker 19 (31:04):
Well, you can keep changing the debt chairs, but unfortunately
you've got to ask the question, should private enterprise that's
been successful be either contracted the service or just take
it over completely instead of trying to make something that
can never work work against all odds.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So if you go private, do you have support within
the government to get that across the line or is
that going to be political?

Speaker 19 (31:33):
Well, our government's a coalition, but I mean actively campaigned
on real change, and my viewers that we should be
confronting quite how bad things are, whether it's the bile
on the plane or the ship, and saying, look, actually
we need to go back to first principles and ask
us the something that the government should do. And in

(31:56):
some of those three answers that the answer cases the
answer will still be yes, and others say, actually, maybe
the government doesn't need to be doing this.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Okay, Well, so your plane obviously it's an air force plane.
You need a military I get that, and there's money
needed for something like that. I'm assuming that's what's happened.
This has become so embarrassing that you guys are actually
going to act and spend some money and solve some problems.
Is that fair or not?

Speaker 19 (32:19):
Well, I think it's fair to speculate that.

Speaker 20 (32:22):
I mean, there hasn't been any.

Speaker 19 (32:23):
Discussion about the plane since the latest breakup, But I
just make the point that you know, seventy million every
two years to maintain it. We actually uncovered that in opposition.
I don't know what it costs to lease one, as
most airlines around the world do, but that's got to
be an option, or maybe, given it's an air force,
they could own one, and that's got to be cheaper

(32:46):
than fixing up the current ones before you allow for
the difference and performance which is becoming nationally embarrassing, internationally embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
All right, well, we've got you farm Maker's Farm coming today.

Speaker 19 (32:58):
Look, there's going to be discussion today and that may
well lead to an announcement. Obviously, you know, I've got
to be respectful of my cabinet colleagues and not get
ahead of them, which I've tried to do throughout this discussion.
But what I think is important is that we bring
it back to the patients, make sure that we preserve

(33:19):
the independence of the farm model, and ensure we keep
confidence in the political system so that if a party
makes a promise, especially such a critical promise as this,
then the government's able to deliver on the national parties
made that promise, of the government is working hard to
deliver on within some of the constraints we face appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
David Seymore, Associate Minister of Finance with us of course
eleven minutes past seven. One I forgot to tell you about,
of course, is the Chattam Islands which ran out of petrol,
so they've got to ship on the way. It's run
out of petrol completely. Diesel supplies are running low, bad
weather force the barge would turn around, so they got
the sea worker out of Nell and expected to arrive
by tuesday. So no petrol in the Chatterm Islands until tuesday.

(34:05):
Right now, Where are we at with the crime business?
More details and what these military style academies will look
like as like as part of the Crime Package update yesterday.
So we've got a new declaration for young offenders. Youth
court judge will have the power to send people off
to an academy. The Minister for Children Caring chawles with us.
Good morning.

Speaker 15 (34:21):
Way.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
As far as these new laws are concerned for these
youth offenders, does a judge have to or is it discretionary?

Speaker 21 (34:30):
It's still the discretion of the judge. Our job which
cannot make judges do things. But what we can do
is send a very clear message to the judiciary that
the public have had enough. They're sick of the crime
that's going on in the communities, and they're sick of
the victims that are suffering in our communities.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Most people would agree with that. Do you think the judges,
though broadly speaking, are on board with this or not.

Speaker 21 (34:54):
Well, I'm hoping when they see that we've created a
program that will give these young people a lot more
hope coming out than when they went in, that that
will give the judges an incentive to actually use this
sentencing power.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Could this be one of the problems with the program.
It's still too small and by the time they start
sentencing all these kids into these programs, they're not going
to be able to cope.

Speaker 21 (35:16):
So the pilot program is a small program because we
have to run it under the current legislation. Once the
YSO legislation goes through, will be ready to ramp that
program up. But until then, we have to run a
program under the current legislation.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
And everything you know about what you're going to be
introducing in this program, how confident are you that it
will actually turn some younger lives around.

Speaker 21 (35:42):
I'm actually really certain that this will make a real
difference in these young people's lives. That's what I came
here for. If it wasn't going to I wouldn't know it.
I have every confidence that this will give these young
people some hope for a better future.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Let us hope, so Karen saw the Children's Minister thirteen
minutes past seven past night. Rail isn't fully commercial. It's
termed a public benefit entity as there are services they
must provide that a commercial entity would have stopped providing
due to commercial reasons. Mike, I got caught with the
bridge last week. This is the Auckland domestic bridge, the
pedestrian bridge three hundred meters and Stiletto's fine one and
a half K's is a blister. Yeah, no, that is true,

(36:16):
blister on a ball of a foot. Mike. Appreciate everyone
wants to tear a Kiwi rail and into the island
at a bits, but our freight industry needs rail capable
ferries as our infrastructure currently, since no one's I don't
think anyone's arguing with we need fairies and all we're
wanting is a better company and a better ferry service.
That's all we wanted. I don't think we wanted to
get rid of it. Mike, what a huge surprise, David's

(36:36):
privatizing infrastructure shameful. Well, when you say that, the counter
argument is what what we've currently got three and a
half billion dollars in counting with a bunch of clowns
who don't know what they're doing. Is that what you want?
Is that what you find is acceptable. So there's three
individual stories here. One the incompetence of Kiwi Rail. Two,
the plane is no one's fault other than a government's
for not properly funding the military. Three is the bolts

(36:59):
on the pylon. That's going to be a fascinating press
conference this afternoon at one pm this afternoon. Unless we've
got this completely wrong. But no one, no one completes
an investigation in two days, two of the days being
a weekend, unless they know full well what happened and
it was very obvious, and how they explained their way
out of this is probably going to be the comedic
highlight of the day. Fifteen past the Myke Costing racist

(37:22):
news TGSB Police Commissioner Andrew Costa on the crime announcements
over the weekend coming shortly after the new seventeen past seven.
So even for a person who's been watching the Warriors
for over a quarter of a century. Now you are
delving well into the memory banks to remember a mess
like the one that unfolded Saturday night, sixty six six
thrashed by the bottom of the table Titans. Officially it
equals the worst loss to the Storm a couple of

(37:43):
years ago. Former Keevy Richie Barnett's back with us on
all of this. Richie, morning to you, Good morning Mite.
I was expecting to come back in the second half,
like we've seen it before. We play like crap in
the first half, somebody tunes them up at halftime. You
come back and there's a bit of something there and
there was nothing. What the hell went wrong?

Speaker 13 (37:58):
Holy? That was actually at the game really difficult to see,
but you could just see that the energy levels actually
were just a look way short. I felt that it
just wasn't happening. I think their directness was poor obviously.
The leaking of points through the middle on the edges
was just embarrassing actually, and we were just the whole crowd.

(38:21):
It would have been about seventy seven of the crowd us,
so they had homeground, just believe it or not. But
they just didn't show up and it was just awkward
to watch. It was frustrating, and people would to supported.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
How do you explain that given they played so well
mainly this year, then they went into their slump, then
they came back, and now they do this. I mean,
these are serious players, that Johnson and Harris and those guys.
These are seasoned professionals who must know that part of
the job is to turn up and turn on.

Speaker 13 (38:53):
There are so many questions that need to be surely, like,
I just don't understand how a side can show so
much effort and what they've done in the last couple
of years and then show up to a game where
they just got destroyed by tim to actually put on
their best performance ever in a long time. They've had
their wobble season for a long time. They put on

(39:14):
a show that was just extraordinary football. But Matts by
side that just couldn't contain, couldn't provide the effort every
facet of the game because he was poor.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I feel sorry for Webster because he deserves better than that,
doesn't he Yeah, he.

Speaker 13 (39:29):
Does, But certainly the standard of the players they must
be walking out there again. What happened there? What?

Speaker 18 (39:35):
What?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
What?

Speaker 13 (39:36):
Happened, and you know, like, obviously it's got to be
down to attitude. Surely it has to be attitude. It's
got to be attitude or believe in the hype of
what's happening around them. I don't know, but I can't
put a finger on it. But all I saw on
that day was there is a lack of energy, commitment,
directness and how they played communication, all all the above,

(40:00):
every single layer that you can think of as a
player and as a team's culture was just destroyed in
one night.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Anything that could have gone wrong, did Richie Nison sight,
Not that we want to regurgitate it, but there you go.
We'll have to talk about it after eight with the
lads as well. I suspect Richie Barnett with us. Let's
come back to far making a moment, shall we? Seven
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now seven twenty four. I think I got enough out
of Nicola Willis on Friday on the program didn't we too?

Speaker 15 (41:22):
Know that?

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Today? And David Seymour backed it up a couple of
moments ago. Cabinet's going to sign off the money for
Farmak to solve their cancer problem. The big outworking of
this is this. I hope they have learned their lesson.
See this government is a couple of problems. Biggest one
is the mess they inherited, a mess we're going to
spend at least the next year, and having spent the
past year deep in it as well. I mean, two
years of economic misery is a lot to ask of

(41:43):
an electorate, and it's a lot to expect of a
government to try and rectify. Even on a good day
with plenty of intent and hard work, voters get grumpy
with whoever's in charge, no matter whether it was actually
their fault. So given that problem number two self inflicted wounds,
the cancer promise was madd. It was mad because governments
don't pick drugs. That's what Farmac's for. If you don't

(42:05):
like farmac, fine change it, but don't keep the same system.
Will trying to jerry mandrain. They also put out a
list of thirteen drugs, some of which aren't even fit
for purpose anymore. And then, having made the mistake of
making the promise, problem number three they fail to deliver
o mg. Failure to deliver Did they learn nothing from labor?

Speaker 22 (42:25):
Then?

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Last week Scrutiny Week, Shane Retty says one thing, they'll
deliver all thirteen drugs. Nikola Willis says they'll deliver some
of the drugs. David Seymour says he can't make a
commitment and farm Maker is independent. Three people, three answers,
Problem number four mixed messaging. So this week an answer
and seemingly an elegant one. More money. The money gets
spent on the stuff that's needed, not automatically the thirteen.

(42:47):
It's spent by Farmak and it might well mean that
some spending on other drugs is taking place as well.
Good good, good, so sorted very big lesson. It never
had to be this way. And if all they're doing
this week is handing up money, why didn't they do
it in the budget when they had the chance. Delivery
and confidence. That's what we want from governments. If this
is a one off, they'll get away with them. If

(43:09):
it's a habit, they're toast past get Speaking of Toast
Broncos on Saturday at Home, Mike, the Warriors are just
another example of the failed New Zealand infrastructure. Very good.
I will talk to the Oh it's going to say,
I'll talk to Prime Minister about this tomorrow. But there's
so much on this list. I don't even know. If
we probably start at sex and roll through until about

(43:32):
ten thirty we might tick a few boxes off Health
New Zealand. I can't quite get to the bottom of this.
They are screaming internally that they can't hire. Health New
Zealand themselves say there is no hiring freeze on frontline
facing in other words, to be deal with patients. There
is no freeze. What we're starting to hear now my

(43:52):
assumption was in part that the graduate nurses were part
of the problem. So, in other words, the graduate nurses
weren't necessarily going to get hired because they need somebody
over seeing them, and you know, we don't have the money,
don't have the time, don't have the energy. So the
gaps are being filled by people who come into the
immigration system. That was my assumption. But what we're now
also getting is the accusation that when they do have

(44:12):
a job, a front facing job, the criteria is so
high it's impossible to meet the demand. So in other words,
there is actually a freeze. It's just not officially a freeze.
It's the freeze you're having when you're not having a freeze.
So everyone agrees we've got a problem. Everyone agrees there
are gaps. The difference comes and some people saying this
is really a freeze in health News and say no
it's not. So it doesn't solve the problem. Doesn't yet

(44:36):
again it doesn't solve the problem. So we'll I'll put
that in the file and stick at things to ask
lux and tomorrow after seven thirty. But after seven thirty
this morning, the Police Commissioner Andrew Costa is next setting.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
The news agenda and digging into the issues. The Mic
Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
With our Veda Live the Age you Feel News talks envy.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yeah, part of the I expressed my that's my overhelln
Clark and her run entree into the business of petty
points scoring over the weekend. With all the difficulties we're
facing in this country infrastructurally speaking, Julian jents no better.
Can we please uncancel the contract to get two fairies
for five hundred and fifty million dollars. You're never getting
two fairies for five hundred and fifty million dollars. The
whole project was Kiwi rails driven. The idea had to

(45:18):
park them somewhere and that's where the infrastructure came in,
and that's where it went from seven hundred and fifty
million dollars through to three point four three point five
billion and counting. You've got to tell the whole story.
Mark the chair of director is a Kiwi Rail standing
Down's understandable. Hopefully a few others will follow, including the
ex politicians on the board. I could only find one
X politician on the board A I looked yesterday Marion

(45:39):
Streets on the board for reasons I do not know why.
The real question is what changes are occurring at the
management and culture internally. I think that's the key to
it all. Aboard is one thing that who's actually pulling
the levers in the company is the key to this.
What I also did notice when I looked up the
board yesterday is there a nine of them. That strikes
me as an awful lot of people to run a
place that runs ships into the wall. Read the boot camps. Mike,

(46:01):
my son's just been through the six week basic training
along with all the fitness, getting up on time and
learning about having the right sort of pride. They learn
about setting goals, team building, have a sense of belonging,
and so much more. These are the things that they're
not getting from their current situation. How these people can't
see this tells me they don't want it to work.
Eight line. Speaking of which, part of the crime announcement

(46:25):
yesterday of course included more community beat teams. So we're
going to have sixty three in Auckland seventeen and Wellington
ten and christ Church are coppers on the beat. The
Police Commissioner Andrew Costas with us on this very good
morning to you.

Speaker 20 (46:36):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
How much of what you're doing all this announcement yesterday
is about you, your initiative and how you run the
police versus the government telling you what to do.

Speaker 15 (46:44):
Well.

Speaker 20 (46:45):
The government's given us five hundred additional staff, so there's
a great opportunity for us, and they've been really clear
they can see nutlift and police visibility. We agree with that.
To do that, we are both invest in new staff
but also trying to focus back on our core after
being drawn into a range of other activities.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
And do you agree with it because you were told
to agree with it, or you agree with it because
you thought of it yourself, not Look.

Speaker 20 (47:10):
We've had visibility as a key priority for a long time.
I think our challenge has been how we balance up
the other things. So new investments making a difference there,
and of course being able or getting support to step
back from some of the things that other agencies.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Ought to be doing, like the mental health stuff. Absolutely,
have you done that yet or is that a work
in progress.

Speaker 20 (47:33):
We've recently agreed what the triage approach to this will
look like, so that will be about the things we
can do to manage our time differently. But of course
we need to see a response from others to make
that workable, and we continue to engage with other agencies
on it.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I was going to see, you're sort of between a
rock and a hard place here, aren't you as willing
as you may be? Who's going to pick up the slack?

Speaker 20 (48:00):
Yeah, I mean there's some truth in that. I think
having the support to pull back, recognizing there is risk
that attaches with us attending fewer events where families are understress.
For example, it makes a difference.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
The sixty three, seventeen and ten. Where did those numbers
come from?

Speaker 20 (48:19):
The sixty three allows us to both go twenty four
to seven and our BEG coverage in the Auckland CBD
plus have three teams of seven covering both the other
Auckland districts, So it's the rationale there. In terms of
the coverage in Wellington and christ Church, we en visits
that we will get to a seven day coverage, but

(48:42):
we don't think twenty four seven is required. So we've
basically whipped the numbers based on what we think is required.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
And and it will make a material difference. I'll be
able to walk down Queen Street and see a material
difference because things have changed.

Speaker 20 (48:56):
Well, certainly our visibility is already increasing as a result
the priority that we've put on that. But yes, absolutely,
I mean having a twenty four to seven presence in
the Auckland CBD will make a really positive difference. It's
not a single solution.

Speaker 14 (49:11):
A lot of the behavior that's causing people to feel
unsafe as anti social behavior falling short of criminality. And
so that's part of the ongoing discussion being lead with
some of the other agencies involved.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
The five hundred people you talked about recruiting. How is
recruiting going. Is there a cue of people who want
to be coppers or not.

Speaker 20 (49:29):
It's definitely turned in a positive direction in recent months
with greater expressions of interest coming through as the job
market's got tighter. Takes a while for those to work
their way through the system, but in a sort of
cut of environment wherein we would expect to be successful.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
In our equipment, good stuff. Appreciate your time as always.
Andrew Costa, the Police Commission of this morning, eighteen minutes
away from eight spake gens the MP for the Chatter minds.
What a very good point and maybe she should focus
on her constituents is true, and running out of diesel
and petrol. They ran out of petrol, almost run out
of diesel. She is, of course the MP for the
Chatter islands. By the way, do you realize Gareth Keenan,
for reasons best known to himself, economist at Infometrics, he's

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worked out you can actually on a minimum wage buy
more Big Max now than you used to be able to.
I don't know what this means. Means, probably you can
buy more Big Max than used to be able to.
Back in April ninety five, the minimum wage was six
dollars twenty five. You could get two point one to
two Big Max. By July of last year, minimum wage
was twenty two dollars seventy. You get too po eight
Big Mac. See it's not all bad news. Eighteen to

(50:30):
two the make costume breakfast, Mike, cops, until they're allowed
to move people on for loitering in Queen streeting places
like it, like the old days before ramp and crime,
nothing will change. I think that's probably generally true, and
I think that's what Coster was trying to say, this
whole mental quote unquote mental health issue as opposed to criminality.
I means sort of lying on a footpath should be criminal,
of course, but it's not. And so what does a

(50:51):
cop do about that? Mike, I'll tell you what is real. O.
We're a cut case of a country. Forget the idea
of a new medical school in the waycatter hospitals on
its knees, interventional radio oology departments falling apart, intensive care
virtually collapsed. There is not a snowballs chance in hell
that they can add a new medical school for that
particular Maxa. I'm looking forward to catching up with the
Prime Minister and all this. Welcome back to the talking
about the country. Christopher, how did Japan go for you?

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Didn't that? Didn't that get forgotten? Really quickly? A spent
the whole week in Japan something and moved on to
other things. By the way, somebody from car Jam, which
is the website you look up when you want to
look at a car, you punch in the plate and
see what the story are and see if someone's nectared
or it's whacked or so many ows money on it.
CR one, speaking of infrastructure, CE one is the Prime
Minister's car. Of course, it's a BMW seven thirty. It's

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a three liter diesel, and so for diesel it's probably okay.
But it's got one hundred and seventy six thousand k's
on the clock, so that's that's more infrastructure. It's a
twenty sixteen. It's eight years old, eight year old BMW.
Prime Miister's driving around an eight year old BMW with
one hundred and seventy six thousand k's on the clock
must be getting close to needing a bit of a rejig.
By the way, very good piece out of Australia last week,

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three of the heavyweights of the Australian media. Not that
this will get reignited here because and watching Winston Peter's
last Monday was this time last week postcab he was
playing Prime Minister and somebody asked him about the media
so called media package. Remember Melissa Lee before Paul Goldsmith
got butt in charge of media, and that she had
a plan or an idea or something that was going

(52:15):
to save us all and social media companies were going
to get taught a lesson or finder, you know whatever. Anyway,
nothing's happened. My suspicion is they're not interested and nothing
will happen in Australia. Not so much. Three of the
heavyweights Channel nine, News Corp and Seven fronted up to
a committee last week and they're wanting Meta apart from

(52:36):
anything else expelled. Toxic, toxic impact of social media on
Australian democracy and society is what they were saying. This
is the Social Media Australian Society Inquiry. Federal government should
impose further regulations on social media platforms, potential expulsion of
Facebook from Australia of Meta failed to comply with local
news values. We cannot be scared to designate the platforms

(52:57):
that refuse to recognize our soulvereign laws. So they signed agreements.
If you followed this back in twenty twenty one, following
the introduction of a bargaining code, those agreements are due
to expire this year. The thinking is they'll walk. So
they're saying that Meta was preparing to blackmail media organizations
in the federal government by refusing to renew its deals

(53:19):
for news content. Now, my whole argument all along has
been quite simple. These guys are now so big, so powerful,
they don't care. If they don't care about a place
like Australia, they're certainly not going to care about a
place like New Zealand. So if the government go along
and go, look, you need to pay this, or do
this or sign this, they're going to go, you know what,
doy't worry about it, and they'll just turn off their
service into this country. They did it for a while
in Canada, and Canada is quite a bit bigger than

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New Zealand, you might have noticed. Most certainly, if the
deals aren't renewed across the industry, we will see pressure
on jobs. So that was their big threat. They came
along to Parliament they said, look, we're going to have
to start laying off journalists if we can't cut a deal. Obviously,
the media companies are not looking for a free kick.
We just want a level playing field. Where they then
unfortunately let themselves down is they were forced to defend

(54:02):
their own companies impact on society. All three of them
refuse to say whether they should be forced to abide
by similar codes of conduct relating to disinformation and misinformation.
So that's where we sort of went wrong for them there.
But at least they're trying to rk it up and
it's possible the Australian government's going to get involved in this,
and it's possible they're going to come head to head
and have a bit of biffo and if that happens

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then that'll be interesting to see where that leaves our
government and whether they are prepared to do anything similar. Now,
speaking of Australian's Jetstar, they're expanding. I have more details
for you in a moment ten to eight.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with are Theda News.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Talks like I think the k's on the PM'SB and
W are high, asked Mark Mitchell about the police fleet.
It's not uncommon for frontline vehicles to be getting close
to three hundred thousand k's. That I suppose is reassuring
in terms of modern technology and motoring, isn't it? Seven
away from eight, Jetstar expanding the New Zealand operations launching
flights between Auckland and the Sunshine Coast from December, Chitch
and Kens from open next year. They're also going to

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increase capacity on the domestic route, starting with christ Chuch
to Auckland and Auckland to Wellington. The Jetstar CEO Stephanie
Tully's with us on all of the Stephanie, very good morning.

Speaker 23 (55:10):
To you, good morning, how are you very well?

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Indeed thank you. Domestically, how many seats does this add.

Speaker 23 (55:18):
What we're announcing today, It adds twohndred and forty thousand
LOFO seats into the market, so we're super excited. This
is the biggest expansion for Jetstar in over ten years
with these new routes. Why now, Oh, Look, we're seeing
demand for lofes travel really strong on both sides of
the Tasman but also domestically and Jet Stars done a

(55:41):
lot of work. We've really improved our operation here domestically.
We just want to add some more frequency. Our customers
are asking us to do that, so we're really excited
for our people based in New Zealand as well to
have some more flying to add into their rosters.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
And this is consistent and this is for the long haul.
You're not just dipping your toe into the market and
then deciding if it all gets a bit hard to
go home.

Speaker 23 (56:03):
No, we're adding these routes year round and we see
sustained demand. We've had an awesome partnership with cross Church
Airport and Queensland Government to support us to enable us
to do this year round. So we it's a fantastic example.
I think of when we work together as an industry,
we can really put in more loafares into the market.

(56:25):
And we know that Kiwe's want that, so they want
more competition. So I think it's a fantastic day.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
And these are permanent reductions and fares or entry level
reductions and fairs, and or do you reckon a New
Zealand will match you or have to match you.

Speaker 23 (56:39):
Oh look, we've got a sales starting today, some fantastic
fares in the market from midday to day. Customers can
get those thirty nine dollars fares domestically. But what we
find is just we are the only loafares leader carrier
in this market. So when you look ahead, our pricing
is consistently sort of over thirty to forty percent below
our new Zealand. So you know, our job is to

(57:01):
stimulates man to offer lowfairs options for Kiwi, so we'll
keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
What I found interesting, and I can't remember when it was,
but it was a month or so back, there was
a reliability report. And the famous thing with jet Star
is that you know, you don't have enough planes and
sometimes they don't turn up on the captain sick and
all that sort of thing. Reliability wise, you actually turned
out to be pretty good at what you do. How
hards turning that image around.

Speaker 23 (57:26):
Look at I'm really proud of the Jets team. We've
spent a lot of work months improving our reliability and
you can see that coming through, as you say in
the stats. At the last few months we had a
period of fifty days actually where we didn't even have
a cancelation. And look, we're in an airline. There's always
going to be things like weather outside your control that

(57:46):
might impact your schedule. But we're seeing, you know, our
on time performance at over eighty percent on average cancelations
at one percent or less, and that's that rivals in
New Zealand, and when your fares are thirty to forty
percent less, it becomes a really a good alternative option
for customers that are looking for that value.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Go well with It's Stephanie Telly, who's the boss of
virget Star. All competition is a good competition, Mike. I
was in Wellington with my partner about eleven pm Saturday night.
Police presence was noticeably higher, both in terms of police
we could see wandering around and police cars parked up
on the street than previous visits to Courtney Place. It
gives you a greater feeling of safety, no question about that.
Richard precat that very much, Mike. It's a long way

(58:25):
riding a paddle bike to the Chattam Islands to tell
you constituents help is on the way now, that is true,
Michael Sport, Andrew and Guy of course obviously raised this
afternoon his big day out. Mind you, it's the broad Squad,
isn't it. It's sort of like I'm not sure. I mean,
it's exciting he's there and we love all of that,
but you know he's going to pick everybody. Basically, we'll

(58:45):
have to deal with the warrior's formula. And it's very
good this morning and in Spain. If you haven't watched
it and you've got it recorded all again a stream
later on. It's well worth watching. It was an excellent race,
but that doesn't cover the most exciting piece of sport
in the world right now, and you will never guess
what it is anyway more. Shortly after the News.

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Speaker 2 (59:47):
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Speaker 3 (59:58):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Andrews, very good morning to you. The you're more excited
about the Blues, Andrew or raised this afternoon you were,
You're different approach.

Speaker 14 (01:00:30):
Yeah, it's an exciting day for Scott Robertson, isn't it,
and his and his assistant coaches who are now his selectors.
I would imagine we're going to see five or six
new caps out of necessity given injuries and players that
departed up at the World Cup. But I think you
also see a lot of regular names and a lot
of experience as well in that in that square.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
And and that's the problem for a person like me,
is I mean, this isn't the crunchy bit the crunchy,
but is when you name you run on site? I mean,
that's what we really want to know, isn't I do
this today? Is sort of high how you're doing? And
his whole bunch of people are going to sit around
until but.

Speaker 14 (01:01:02):
You can name fifty players at only twenty three are
going to run out or play against England in a
couple of weeks time. Interesting to see the way the
Blues played most of the season, Mike, and again on
Saturday night, that Ford pact was outstanding. And I think
I'm sure the All Blacks have looked at this and thought, hmm,
maybe we could use this sort of style against England.
And I'm sure the English team, which I think arrives

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today into the country, right that'd be looking at this
going gee whiz. This is like normal rugby union played
at about five times the pace are they any good England? Yeah,
they picked a fairly strong squad. There aren't too many
players missing injured, and they beat Japan at the weekend,
which is obviously no real indication. But no, no, I

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think they'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Okay, because I was looking at the run through for
the year, so England and I'm quite excited about because
we don't play them often enough. Fiji, who cares Argentina
and I suppose that they know Argentina turn up and
you think, oh, it could be a game. But once
again it's of same old South Africa Australia.

Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
I did that last year in the year before. You
know what I mean. It's got that same old, same
old feel about it.

Speaker 14 (01:02:05):
Yeah, but it's the new coach, new tactics, new feeling
in the team. You've got South Africa twice away from home.
You've got Joe Schmidt and the Wallabies in Sydney. That'll
be a big one in then back over here. Really exciting, Okay, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
As long as you're excited, what about you? What about
your guy? You fizzing?

Speaker 15 (01:02:23):
I feel like this is the most intriguing teams. The
squad announcement, the most intriguing squad announcement we've had for
a while. I found squad announcements phiirly boring because, as
we just said, you can largely predict most of the
players that are going to be there. But the element
of Scott robertson how different he will go, I suppose,
if at all, I find that relatively intriguing. And then

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and so sorry, I'm just watching the golf and there
are a couple of intruders on the green and that's
taken me by surprise, throwing stuff all over the green. No,
not naked, but they've got flaars and everything, and it's all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Kind of jeans or orange paint, white.

Speaker 15 (01:02:59):
Paint by the things. And they've caused chaos on the
green anyway. And then England, I think England will be
quite intriguing to see them come here. They even come
here for.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
A while, I think, so that will be that to me, guys,
what I'm trying to say, as a casual observer of
the game, that's the sort of thing I want to
see a cem oh England are coming excellent. I you know,
the same every year we play South Africa and Australia
and Argentina and then we go play somebody like Fiji
or Japan and stuff and mix it up.

Speaker 15 (01:03:28):
As sav says, the South Africa thing should be interesting
this year because we've got to play them twice over there,
and then also Australia previously has been relatively boring because
you've known that the All Blacks are going to keep
hold of the Bledderslow Cup. The Schmidt factor adds something
to that. I still don't think they've got the players
to be able to match the All Blacks, but who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Do you reckon Sev that Rays is going to button
himself up? I remember Lory Mains. Lorie Mains was very
difficult to deal with until he was no longer All
Black coach, and then he turned into a really nice
guy again. You know they changed person and do you
reckon he's going to change him on?

Speaker 14 (01:04:01):
I think it's a lot to do with the pressure.
I don't think Scott Robertson is going to change a
heck of a lot. I think what he will be
getting to grips with at the moment, Mike is the
demands on his time, not only having to coach and
win rugby test matches, but you've got the commercial side
of it. You've got the fan interest side of it,
which is much much bigger than say a Crusader's team

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or Super Rugby. I think that's where he'll be really
tested early on in his regime. And then say, on
top of that, you've got to coach of a rugby
team to win test matches. I think England will be okay, Mike,
but when you put them in toned An under that
roof first up, I don't think they'll stick with the
All Blacks for pacing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Okay.

Speaker 15 (01:04:42):
I think I think Scott Robertson will be great, but
let's not think there's an enormous amount of pressure on
him because he comes in. Everyone is expecting the All
Blacks to win under Scott Robertson. He has been touted
as the guy who should have been the All Blacks coach.
A lot of people should have thought he should have
been the All Blacks coach a few years ago, and
they've been waiting for this time now. So people are

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expecting him to come straight out of the gates and
win tests. It's not as easy as that on the
international stage. And as we as we say England and
then South Africa two tests in South Africa. It's not
a massively easy start to his tenure, so I think
there's actually a bit of pressure on him. I'm excited,
I don't know, and he should be the All Blacks coach.
But yeah, I do something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
There's a bit of pressure on Okay, cool, right to
go to the break. You guys, think about this. What
is the and there's no dispute about this. It's a
statement of fact. What is the most exciting sporting event
in the world at the moment. Think about that more
in a moment. There's a prize for whoever gets it right.
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Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
The Monday Morning Commentary barks on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Sev anything to say about the Warriors apart from you know.

Speaker 14 (01:05:53):
Whatever, it's going to take a stab at your most
excited Yes, same, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
We're going to do that to do that. But I
just people will complain that I don't cover the Warriors
when they lose, but you know, I mean, I don't
know what there is to say.

Speaker 14 (01:06:06):
I'd be excited to see a bunch of Rugby League
players row home from surfers paradise to walkland because they should.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Be in real life. It's like I was expecting a
comeback in the second half of sorts, probably going to
be disappointed because the gap was too big at halftime.
But normally you sort of you start badly, you get
a tune, you comeback, do something, and they didn't do anything,
and it was just the whole thing is inexplicable, you know,
experience on the field. It's not like we had a
sort of B squad. It's it's it's just like I

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don't I just don't get it.

Speaker 13 (01:06:34):
Well.

Speaker 14 (01:06:34):
The irony is when the team had younger players out
through necessity, through injury. When they beat was it Peneris
and the Dolphins.

Speaker 22 (01:06:43):
Of football?

Speaker 14 (01:06:44):
Yeah, they played bit of football.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
They're going to have to drop a few people aspar as,
Like I just feel guy sorry for Webster because he
deserves so much better than this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 15 (01:06:53):
It's so do I You just start to wonder in
times of these and I have not heard it anything.
I don't know, so purely speculating, and I'm purely just
wondering what on earth is going on? Is there something
more to this? I don't know, Like they have lost
some they went on that losing streak and everyone was
thinking what's going on here? Then they turn around and win,

(01:07:13):
and then they go and lose, lose by sixty points
on the Gold Coast. These are times where you just
start to wonder what is actually going on, because there's
something more to be to the Titans.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
They did play extremely well.

Speaker 13 (01:07:24):
They did.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Yeah, they came to life, you know, they realized something
was on and they just threw a course to the
wind went nuts.

Speaker 15 (01:07:29):
And it's not the first one.

Speaker 14 (01:07:32):
History, a bunch of it's not the first time industry,
a bunch of young men of collapsing the Gold Coast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
That's true, Andrew, that is true.

Speaker 15 (01:07:39):
Of that warrior's defense. US three could have run through absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
I mean, some of those tackles they fell off were
just embarrassing and and and in a different time, in
a different place, the referee was shocking, and two of
us check shouldn't be off and the try that was
just allowed was to try and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:07:55):
But it's sort of when you you can't blame sixty
points on the brief No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Agree, right, Sav, You go first. What do you think
the most And there's no question this is by so
far it doesn't matter. The most exciting sporting event in
the world at the moment.

Speaker 14 (01:08:09):
Is is there anything to do with motor racing?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:08:12):
Billiards?

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
No, no, no, this is this is genuine you. You
can't deny it.

Speaker 15 (01:08:17):
I've got a guess. Game seven of the Stanley Cup Finals.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 14 (01:08:22):
Sav Yeah, I'd say i'd what it is?

Speaker 15 (01:08:26):
Do you know? Sorry? I think it wasn't.

Speaker 14 (01:08:29):
What wasn't wasn't one of the teams down three nil?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
This is the point, This is what I'm saying, Sad.
I don't know where you've been. Edmonton were down three
Nils against Florida and they went three to one, three
to two. Everyone went ah and when before they went
three to two, no one had ever come back or what?
Was there just one I can't remember the actual stat
but the and one game five, so that was unusual
in itself. Anyway, it's now three all, it's three all,

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and they go with game game seventeen. Unfortunately it's in Florida, unless,
of course Florida when they'll be happy about that. But
Edmonton are on a roll. If Edmonton win, Tell me
when was the last time somebody came back from three
nil down in the Stanley Cup. Here's the big prize, guy,
here's the big prize.

Speaker 15 (01:09:12):
I've got the prize. You see, there was a prize
to guess what it was. I've got the prize. This
is a big prize.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
Okay, this is a big prize for the big prize.

Speaker 18 (01:09:19):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Havevelt When was the last time somebody came back in
the Stanley Cup final and went on.

Speaker 15 (01:09:24):
To I'll ask you one question. So it has happened? Yes, okay,
nineteen twelve?

Speaker 23 (01:09:33):
Yes?

Speaker 15 (01:09:33):
And who was it?

Speaker 11 (01:09:34):
Was it?

Speaker 20 (01:09:35):
Actually?

Speaker 15 (01:09:35):
Nineteen twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
The Edmonton Oilers.

Speaker 15 (01:09:38):
It's a pure gifts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
No, it's not. You're saying nineteen twelve Edmonton Oilers. And
what do you say, Sam, I'd say.

Speaker 14 (01:09:47):
Nineteen twenty two and maybe g I don't know, Oilers again.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Okay, nineteen forty two Toronto Maple Leaves.

Speaker 13 (01:10:00):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
So that's as exciting as it gets, is it? That's
this is sport edits very finest. You've got no idea
what's going to happen? And what a comeback? A comeback
for the Ages.

Speaker 15 (01:10:13):
I don't want not of NHL.

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
But when nineteen forty nineteen forty two correct, who was
playing in goal for the Maple Leafs. Mister ah, surely
they will have canceled the ice hockey during the war.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
No, you said no, nineteen forty two wasn't a war year,
you idiot? Or was it thirty the war years? Border?
Border was the war years forty five to forty seven?
So forty two wasn't the war it was out hold
on standby.

Speaker 15 (01:10:50):
Did the war start in the thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Thirty nine to forty five? We'll see thirty forty two?
Se was America involved at that point?

Speaker 15 (01:10:57):
It was right, It was right in the middle of it.

Speaker 14 (01:11:00):
You need toy, You need to start watching Supercars every
weekend and go on the bloody history channel.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Power nineteen forty Yeah, no, no, you're right, Brooks. I've
got confirmation. Google says that this must be true. I
don't know what they were doing. They must have maybe
they had a maybe they had a reduced side. Maybe
all the guys on the other team. I don't have
the details on the other team. Maybe the other guys
on the other team got called up for the wall
and that's why they came back and won.

Speaker 14 (01:11:22):
The next thing. The next thing, you'll be saying there
wasn't a war at all, was all made.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Up or was stolen? They rang the attorney general. But anyway,
that's excited. So that's on tomorrow, so make sure you watch.
Have you either of you seen the f one this morning?

Speaker 15 (01:11:36):
I watched the thirty minute highlights. How did Norris blow that?
The start was terrible and then they were terrible on
the pets.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, that's basically it, and you're probably ruined it now
for everyone.

Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
Guys, and you're loving the Euro's might the euro football
g did he? Have you ever seen more passion than that?
Haven't watched any of the atmosphere and it's brilliant, mate,
I thought.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Even though Embarpey is a god of a man, he
looks ridiculous in a mask.

Speaker 15 (01:12:02):
I haven't seen them where. I saw them fiddle around
with it in the but I haven't seen him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I mean, I wed one if I had a broken
nose as well. But you know, having said that, all
I'm saying is it doesn't matter how good looking you.

Speaker 15 (01:12:14):
Are, just don't let it block your eyes when you're
reading up about the war, mate, Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
I sort of ruined that didn't I because I had
such an exciting time with the and then it's just
my history. Let me down anyway, Nice to see you guys.
Andrew Sevil guy hebelt it is. It's like twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
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Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
It continued during the war, the war and reconstruction years,
NHL continued play, but with a much diluted talent pool,
given that most of them, as I suggested, went off
and joined the war.

Speaker 13 (01:13:39):
And that was that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
So anyway, the nineteen forty two Maple Leaves were the
last and only team ever to have come back from
three nil down. So that final game tomorrow for the
people who see very few people at gr I get
this wasn't the point. The point is it's the most
exciting contest going on in sport in the world at
the moment. The fact that we may or may not
be watching it doesn't make it any more or less excited.
And you reckon speaking of exciting, Steve Price in a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
Mike my casting Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real
estate differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Mentioned earlier that Kennedy won't be part of the debate
this coming Friday in New Zealand time. He's failed to
qualify CNN. Of the hosts of the first one fell
short of a couple of benchmarks set out by CNN
if they had secured a place in the ballot in
the states totaling two hundred and seventy votes. Problem with that,
and this isn't his fault, they claim they did. They've
got three hundred and ten or of their registered in

(01:14:36):
states that have up to three hundred and ten electoral votes,
but not all of them have affirmed his name. California,
for example, which is the biggest state that got fifty
four votes, are not going to sit up by any
candidates until August twenty nine, so that worked against him.
But he was also required to reach a polling threshold
of fifteen percent in four reliable national polls by June
twenty couldn't do it, didn't do it, so he's not there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
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Peace of mind for New Zealand business and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Rights Monday morning, see Price, Very good morning to you.
Hello there, how's the Dutton nuclear of the elban easy,
there's an election coming. Debate going well.

Speaker 22 (01:15:15):
It got very ugly at the weekend, particularly from Peter
Dutton's side, and then the old war horse Paul Keating
lobbed a couple of grenades overnight to Ward Dutton, calling
him a climate change deniron. But with Paul you just
got to you know, he just does that every now
and then's to keep everybody happy. But Peter Dutton was
at the Liberal Party Federal council mirke on Saturday. He

(01:15:38):
outlined how he thought the party could beat Anthony Albaniasi
the first term labor government. He believes that can win.
He urged them all to get out there. It must
get back into government. And then things got really nasty.
He said in an offscript moment that the Prime Minister
is a quote nasty and week accused him of telling

(01:15:59):
people what they want to here and then this he
said he as in Anthony Abneasy. Our prime minister is
a man with a mind still captured in his university years.
He's a child in a man's body. I think mister
Albinizi is a decent man who cares deeply about his country.
But I believe he's completely out of his depth as
Prime Minister. So that's set up the week. You've got

(01:16:22):
a week of parliament coming up. Now there's two weeks
of sitting into the winter break, and so I expect
there'll be some more fireworks later during the rest of today.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Is the subtlety or nuance of the I being captured
when he talks about a climate change deny. It's not
about that. It's about the gap between what you got
in renewables and the day you can turn the renewables
on in a reliable fashion and the lights go on
each and every time. In other words, you need something
in between that's going to solve your problem long term.

Speaker 15 (01:16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:16:48):
Look, I'm a naive optimistist called last week on the
fact that we need to have a mature adult debate
about this, because I'm about to tell you what's going
to happen. Because if we don't have a mature debate
at it, and we keep throwing rocks at each other
with the country that has extraordinary amount of resources is
going to end up with no energy. It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Precisely, so, where are you at in terms of because
we've only just gone back to the gas thing so
the previous government here they banned exploration on oil and gas.
New government here has just suddenly sort of re energized
that and said you can get some licenses. And the
debate around here is whether or not there's anyone internationally
wants to come back to the country. You at least
have all of those resources, don't you.

Speaker 22 (01:17:28):
Yeah, you'd want to hope that they do come back,
because without gas, certainly in Australia, industries in big trouble.
The Australian's reporting this morning we've got a crisis on
two fronts. Victoria's main storage plant is set to run
out of gas for the end of winter and one
of the biggest manufacturers said, look, if we don't get
some reliable gas supplies, we're going to slash jobs and
closed factories. Now. It can't get any more grim than that.

(01:17:51):
Australian reveals today that the Energy regulator bas MOB called
AEMO caution the industry that the largest supplier of gas
storage on the East coast of Australia, Lockhart Energy, at
a place called Iona Facility in northeast Victoria, could run
out of gas before the end of winter.

Speaker 13 (01:18:08):
So that's a month and a half a one.

Speaker 22 (01:18:10):
AEMO said to gas users on Thursday, you need to
haver what you're taking out of that facility from four
hundred terror duels down to two hundred to avoid it
running dry. And ORAKA one of Australia's biggest gas uses
they make explosives. With the mining industry. They said, look,
we're going to have to cut production and we're going
to have to look at sacking people. So there's the

(01:18:31):
reality of what happens when you don't take advantage of
all of the resources that you have a you at
your disposal.

Speaker 15 (01:18:37):
It's crazy exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
So Charles and I mean be grateful he's actually coming
because he's canceled us. You realize he's going to summer
in Australia but not US. So at least you've got
your debate between the horse races. At least he's turning up.

Speaker 22 (01:18:50):
I wonder how that's gone down to New Zealand. King
Charles the Third obviously battling cancer and these doctors have
told him he's got to slim this trip down. A
biggig debate in Australia was whether he was going to
go to the Melbourne Cup or whether he's going to
turn up at this thing at Randwick in Sydney call
the Everest, where they have a cheeky boss in charge

(01:19:11):
of racing and rugby league voc called Peter Velandi's And
what he's done is he's named a race up to
Charles at the Everest on that day. The King happens
to be in the country when that race meeting's on.
And guess what, He's not going to go to the
Melbourne Cup. He's going to go to the King Charles
the third Stakes at Randwick instead.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Pretty clever.

Speaker 15 (01:19:32):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
By the way, given you're from Adelaide, do you know
the Westfield Marion shopping center.

Speaker 22 (01:19:38):
I certainly do. My mother goes there most weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Okay ninety Well yesterday thrown into lockdown after a mass
brawl involving up to twenty youth one at least wielding
a machete. Is that sort of thing unusual in Australia?

Speaker 22 (01:19:53):
Well, I hope you hope that it's unusual. I mean, obviously,
is it a copycat of what took place at Bondi Junction.
You'd hope not where six people, of course lost their lives,
but the scenes and you would have seen them on TV.
News last night of those years rampaging through that Trabge.
It's a massive west field. I think it's either the
first or second largest in the country. And to shut

(01:20:14):
that down on a Sunday, a huge number of people
locked in behind security bars, it's just horrendous.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Exactly see Wednesday might preciate up very much steep price
out of Australia. By the way, can I recommend, thoroughly
recommend this. A guy called Jeffrey Robertson, who's a particularly
famous Australian human rights barrister and author, exceedingly brainy sort
of person, been around for many, many years. But what
I didn't know is he mentored kias Starmer and as
the Australian most closely connected with his career. I offered

(01:20:41):
some thoughts about his likely governance, and I didn't know
enough about the background of Starmer. I knew he was
a lawyer, but he got a very very solid degree
at Oxford and he went and ended up working for Robertson,
and Robertson tells a lovely story about how they He
took on one of the first things he did. Our
first case was against the Government of Denmark, and I
took Starma to Strasbourg to argue it in the European

(01:21:02):
Court of Human Rights, where Denmark had never lost. Starmer
forgot his passport and was held in custody by the
gendarmes until with the help of the British Council, was
secured his release in time for his debut in court.
The Danes were so confident that he had offered free
trips to law students to watch them win again. But
we showed that their court system, in which judges who
denied bail to defendants would then sit as their trial

(01:21:25):
judge and find them guilty, breached the rule that defendants
must have in partial judges. Starmer gave the students a
seminar about their government's mistakes and went on to write
several important textbooks on human rights law in Europe. And
he sort of tells you who he is, where he's
come from, what he's about, how bright he is, and
it's well worth read because he's going to be the
next British Prime minister. But say you can look that up, Jeffrey,

(01:21:46):
just google Jeffrey Robertson. You'll find that sixteen away from
nine the cost Racist, thirteen away from nine, Mike, with
the increased demand for energy in many countries struggling to
meet it, how much is bitcoin and another crypto contributing?
Very good question? A lot is the archs. I don't
know specifically, but I was reading about data centers over
the weekend, and none of us seem to have thought
about this. The amount of energy required to run data centers,

(01:22:08):
of which there are more and more in this country.
And for a while there we thought that was a
good thing. It probably still is ultimately, but we thought
it was a good thing. And your Microsoft's and everything
invest into the country, bringing jobs and money and all
that sort of stuff. So crypto data centers AI, of
course in heinous the amount of energy required to run AI,
and that's only just beginning. And then of course you
get to the EV. So the world simply does not

(01:22:30):
have enough resource to pump all of this stuff out,
and that's why we don't know what to do, basically,
and why we're in the trouble we're in. Mike, are
you going to like me wake up at one o'clock
am Friday to watch the Trump Biden de Banke Niko,
I've got very very good news for you, very very
good news for you. Indeed, it's not one am, so
please don't wake up at one am on Friday, because
you're going to be bitterly disappointed. That'll make it nine

(01:22:51):
o'clock in the morning East Coast time. And it is
indeed one o'clock in the afternoon New Zealand time, nine
o'clock at night that you need to be well, not
at wake because you should be awake at one in
the art noon. But it's one o'clock in the afternoon Friday,
which is Thursday night there time. Now this once again,
the problem with these boot camps has announced yesterday. I
mean we won't announceder is just updated yesterday. So next
month the boot camps begin. They're adjusting the judicial process

(01:23:14):
for young OFFENDUS fourteen through seventeen year old's judges are
going to be able to sentence these people to these
boot camps. And all you ever hear on the news
is wa, wow, that ain't well, it's not fair And
seemingly I don't know why, maybe he's one of the
few in the industry, but every newsroom in this country
rings up Aaron Hendry. Good old Aaron, do we need
to find a negative voice on why boot camps won't work.
Look under h and the roll thedecks for Henry Aaron High,

(01:23:36):
can we get you to say the same thing you've
said about nine thousand times before, how it won't work?
There's a In fact, there's a story floating around this
morning for radio in New Zealand the government is pushing
ahead with boot camps despite opposition parties in Youth Justice
ad for Gets insisting there is no evidence they will work.
So anyway, I've got a little something for you. There's
a twelve day military style boot camp run in Susan River, Queensland,

(01:23:56):
is called Operation Yaka. It boasts a old dear Oh no,
it boasts a ninety percent success rate. Has Aaron heard
about this? What does an our newsroom ring up? Aaron
tell him about the ninety percent success rate? State government
withdrew funding in twenty fifteen, so it now relies on donations. Now,
the owner of the camp is a guy called Bob Davies.

(01:24:17):
And this is how the mentre works.

Speaker 24 (01:24:19):
There's two major concepts about the program. Respect and attitude.
We've got to build a respect up between them and
us and their own respect for themselves exactly, and also
have the correct attitude.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Right, and so's he needs some government support. Obviously.

Speaker 24 (01:24:34):
Fathers and mothers both crying on the phone. They're emotional,
they've burnt out, They've just don't know where else it turn.
They're damn good parents, but they're not getting the support.
They're not getting the backing from the government.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
So government of getting behind this in this particular part
of the world. One of the kids in the program,
realizing he was on the wrong path. I can see
what I've done to my parents now, definitely sorry about that.
I can see my little brother's future if I keep
carrying on. So let's try some things. This is bluxon yesterday.
Let's try some things. Let's have a different approach, Let's

(01:25:09):
do something different to try and get a different set
of outcomes. Their target is to reduce youth offending by
fifteen percent. So all the people are go and saying
does no evidence that works? I'm sorry. Have a look
at Operation Yaka in Australia. They're claiming a ninety percent
success rate. Night Away from Nome.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
The MYC hosting rapists where the Bailey's estate use dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Elon Musk, I'm not the world's biggest fan of Elon Musk.
But one of the things of his I do have
is the Starlink, and it seems to work fine. Mainly
difficulty was that the system we had in the country
that ran beforehand worked fine as well. So I'm not
one of those people who can go, oh, you should
have seen the system we had that was absolutely useless,
and then we got starlink and it works so much better.
It seemed to be I think, unfortunately not to throw

(01:25:54):
my wife under a bus, but I think she decided
one day that we needed something different, so we got
something different. It works just as well as what we
had before. So starlink works. Anyway. He's announcing they've got
Starlink Mini, and this is clever because it's five ninety nine.
This is in America. I wouldn't have a clever it
ever gets here and how much it's going to cost.

(01:26:15):
But for six hundred bucks it does. You pay one
hundred and fifty a month for fifty gigabytes of data.
It's mobile. You put it in your backpack. It's just
a little tiny thing and you go camping with it
or whatever fits in the backpack. Designed despite high speed,
low latency Internet on the go, so next time you're
at camping, you whip up your Starlin Mini and you're

(01:26:37):
connected to the world. That strikes me as genuinely useful.
I like good ideas. Five minutes away from nine trending.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Now Humous Square House your home of winter assentials.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
Now we've got a bit of local trending.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
This morning.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
People have gone and dug through the archives of the
last couple of years of John Tamahirie, you know John Tammahiri,
and they found a Facebook live that he did back
in October of twenty two. On the call is Mona
roya Maria chair Ringy McLean and somebody called Takata tash Kemp,
the one that was the former Manaewa Maria chief executive
who is being investigated and who also might have some

(01:27:11):
trouble with the band used during the election campaign. So
this is this is Joe. Let's listen to what John says.

Speaker 25 (01:27:17):
Remember eighth of October, people, and you've got to get
to your finer. And they've made it very difficult for
our people to vote. There's no post office boxes. You've
got to get the voting forms to our people. Don't
wony about ticking anyone else. And file, put them, put
them in the boxes that are available. So this is

(01:27:39):
our last push for our three candidates here tonights and
just got to you just got to motivate your fan.
Get on the phone, go around the houses, pick up
their voting forms, tick the boxes for them. That's probably illegal,
but I'm asking you to do it anyway. The whole
system has brought it against us, right, you've got to

(01:27:59):
level it up them now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
Just wondering if that's part of the investigation or if
it wasn't, whether it is now. And the thing about
that is, he's so condescending, isn't he to his own people?
Because somehow, Yes, because you're Maori, you're so thick and
so stupid, you need a letter box. And if you
don't have a letter box, will do it for you.
I mean, can't wait for one o'clock this afternoon. Actually,

(01:28:27):
it's a big day between Razor. It's that five thirty,
isn't it? So five point thirty for Razor, But we've
got the one o'clock transpower, and I reckon the one
o'clock transpower is going to be the good one, isn't it.
I Mean, how do you explain people taking bolts out
and it falls over less. Of course, as I keep saying,
let's you know, they've found something really miraculous, no one's

(01:28:47):
thought about it over the weekend. Then you've got the
postcab press conference with the Prime Minister and the fairies
and the planes and all that sort of stuff. So
this is going to be a good day. We're back
tomorrow morning with Razor by the way after eight o'clock.
Look for to your company as always, and as always,
happy days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
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