Full Show Podcast: 24 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
And welcome today, Winston and a State of the Nation
the Indiacrea. They're all back in the country. The talks
are actually under way, so we've got the prospect of
the dealer in a couple of months. Richard Lowe and
his uncle Grizz the government are asking public servants about
their job and what it is they do. Are the
lads in the commentary Marks Richard and old Steve Price.
They got the good stuff as well, Hoscar. It's rip
into its seven past six. I think the calculation will

(00:31):
be as thinking about this over the weekend. I think
the calculation will be that if we win well this
weekend against the Tigers, and I'm anticipating we will, then
we can officially figet about Las Vegas. What do you
reckon when you look at the last two weeks at home,
Vegas seems increasingly inexplicable, don't you think. And within those
two victories, two very different sorts of victories. I thought
of pantsing against manly heap of points pile of free
flying football versus the Roosters, where we battled where we

(00:54):
see sword, where the points were harder to come by
by the way the conversions messed by Metcalf. I don't
know what's going on there. That might be a to
think about. The Harris de Vita try wasn't under the posts,
I know, but it was hardly on the sideline and
the kick got butchered. In fact, both kicks got butchered.
They barely looked like they were heading anywhere close and
in low scoring games two or four points can be
the difference, and Luke Metcalf looks good normally, so I'm

(01:16):
not sure what happened there. Anyway. The last try was
probably the pick of them, but Harris Deavita might have
something to say about that. His was very individual and
showed some style and confidence I thought anyway worth noting
as well for trained spot as we don't normally beat
the Roosters, and I think we can say we played
the Roosters at their own game and found them wanting.
So here's the thing. The more we play like this,

(01:36):
like a proper, well drilled, discipline fit, agile professional side,
the more weird Vegas looks two from three. It's fine
and although round one was a blowout, the comeback has
not been scrappy. It's not been lucky, it's not been ropy.
It's been a joy to watch high quality football that
a Vegas had never happened. You'd be full of confidence
that all the expectation and faith placed in the side

(01:57):
was very well judged. Indeed, so as I say, let's
look or book a good winning this weekend and we
can put the whole opener to bed and get on
with the season. In totality so far, injuries aside, and
that might actually become a bit of a talking point
going for but injuries aside, this is good stuff. This
is promising. We are competitive and competitive with no shortage
of style. Evidence would suggest this is our year.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
News of the world in ninety seconds, we're.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
At the table. Where are we on the table? We
were in the top eight, We are in the top eight.
Are's your busy old world at the moment? If you're
following Turkey, what a mess Erduan has popped his main
rival into jail. That's got the locals out on the streets.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
No, no, no, I believe it is worth reminding once again
that the days of going out into the streets taking
left wing organizations, extremists and vandals with you and threatening
the national will are now behind us.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Very good news. The Pope is back at the Vatican.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
SETTI, thank you, Thank you everyone. I see this lady
with yellow flowers holding yellow flowers.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Very good, thank you. The paythful. They're relieved.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
All of us were missing him and today it's really
a blessing.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Shall be all here to thank the Lord.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think I was a little worried.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
You know, we never know what can happen when the
poop gets sick.

Speaker 7 (03:20):
Other people are being united.

Speaker 6 (03:21):
I think that gave us a little.

Speaker 8 (03:22):
Bit of hope that maybe one day that poop would.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Returned back on and indeed he did. And Britain as
the chancell that goes about here are gender of cutting
and trimming and taking a lot of people are feeling it,
but she remains optimistic.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
If you look at wages at the moment, wages are
rising today at twice the rates of inflation. That is
very different from what we saw under the previous government.
I'm confident that we will see living standards increase during
the course of this Parliament.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Some people, though, who put out a report says it's
pretty much not true.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
And the danger in the government rejecting our findings is
that families are going to feel this anyway. They're going
to see their house and cost go up. They're going
to see their real earnings go down as inflation outstrips earnings.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And last week we told you about Trump's offer to
the Afrikaaners that they are welcome to America away from
the persecution. So far seventy thousand of lined up. There's Blake.
He ain't one of them.

Speaker 9 (04:08):
I don't think anybody has taken us here. You'll always
have fringe in any society at a five or ten
percent French that will take it up and we'll carry
that flag. But the most people I deal with, most
of the aspect of love South African will like to stay.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Finally, South Korea and Chasar Sun has visually passed a
driving test at the age of sixty nine. Is it's unusual?
Slightly unusual? She's a slow learner. It took her nine
hundred and sixty goers. She did it over fourteen years.
It ended up costing her twenty two thousand dollars. Obviously,
she set some sort of record, and quite if you're
asking whether one out of nine hundred and sixty is
an indication of decent driving room, thank just a bit

(04:43):
of good luck. Here's the world in ninety Carlie's gone
by the way. Just a couple of moments ago, Carney
knew Prime Minister of Canada, taking over from Trudeau. The
feeling was he was going to pull the trigger early.
He has and he is named April the twenty eighth
for the Canadian snap election.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
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Speaker 2 (05:10):
Check the box in Germany the Upper House over the weekend.
That's that half billion dollars the debt break constitutional they
needed two thirds Lower House passed last week, needed to
go to the Upper House. They represent the sixteen German states,
so they've done so. Core inflation in Japan, ironically against
what's pretty much going on around the rest of the world.
Central Bank look like they're going to hike. They've got

(05:31):
three percent. It's up to three percent. Fifteen Gay Right
eleven Funds Management. Quensmith's Weather, Good Monday morning to you,
Good morning mind. This niky thing fascinates me, how much
of it's about we're just not buying sneakers, and how
much of it's about their image.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
Yeah, it's a bit of everything. I mean, they've had
I guess some problems of their own making and disaster
sort of strategy of trying to sell direct to consumers.
But yeah, the yeah, she has got a bit of
a ticking off from Investor's on Friday. That's for sure,
down five percent, poorly sales over about nine percent to
eleven point four billion, and I reckon things are going
to get good anytime soon. So the same that sales

(06:08):
are going to decline by mid double digit percentages in
the current quarter. So yeah, they're going to clear out stock.
It's not resonating. Yeah, they're trying to turn things around
and trying to get consumers back, wholesalers back, and yeah
issues it's in an environment where things are tough for
retailers anyway, right, So they're cots lying down and yeah,
consumers are becoming more price conscious. And then you got

(06:29):
the issue of tariffs. Nearly a quarter their supplies are
located in China, so they they could take a bit
of a hit. And then you've got the anti American
sentiment as well, So your sales in China were down
seventeen percent to one point seven billions, So they reckon
they can turn things around. That were new shoe lines
coming out. They've teamed up with Kimmy the card issues.
They've got this intimate brand skim so they're partnered there.

(06:52):
But yeah, a bit of a tough way back to
former Glorious mics. You look at the shares are down
sixty percent since their pandemic peak. And then yeah, speaking
of tariffs and with softening economy, and we also had
FedEx out as well, so these years were down six
percent on Friday. So I've lowered their profit and revenue
four cars so we can the growth and revenue for
twelve months and he may is going to be flat
to slightly lower. They're also talking about in certaindays on

(07:14):
the trade front, and also a little bit of the
market Shaer Bettle going on for ups also more businesses,
more business with Team and Shine, but that's eating into
their margin. So you know, they abing to take a
lot of costs out to try and get things back
on track. Some two point two billion dollars in cost
cuts they're looking at next.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Year well, and then we come back home. I thank
the good Lord. The warehouse are back in the black.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
Yeah, some great news for the league shareholders. Mike in
the Warehouse groups. So yeah, they've been doing it tough
during the recession, or they were that procession now at me,
but end up here and then't go a bit of
a strategic rethink of themselves and they seld obviously torpedo
seven for it, but they're given some idea to I
suppose things could be turning around. You look at their
half you result on Friday, So the group sales down

(07:53):
one point six percent, one point six billion, but the
rate of decline is easy, and you look at the
bottom line. Might you have to tell result was a
net profit of eleven point eight million. That's from a
loss of twenty three point seven last year. So if
things improving, there isn't without costs. I suppose they handing
a discount to get shoppers in the door. So they've
reset the every day low prices strategy. And that's saw

(08:15):
operating profit more than half. But you know, talking about
getting fighting fit, they're not quite there. They still actually
hold quite a bit of market share, that's around about
fifteen percent. Just looking at the businesses quickly read shears
just saw a modest half percent decline in sales and
no leaving. That was really interesting. I thought sales are
out point eight percent, so foot traffic down a bit,
but less than the way browsers are more purposeful shoppings.

(08:36):
That's helping them out. Over all, the bound sheets a
lottiter than it was. So they've got a net cash
in nineteen million there at dead of fifty million a
year ago. They're still they're going to make a loss
in the second half. They make mostly their profits in
the in the December half. But interesting thing is, can
well can they keep shoppers in without more disaccounting. I
suppose they are going to get some asistance from the economy,
is borrors get more spring this step. But yeah, she

(08:58):
is up two percent on Friday, but down twenty percent
the year and eighty percent insince the pandemic peak.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, as I mentioned this Friday, it came out Friday.
This is this reporting to the supermarkets in Australia. What
came with that?

Speaker 8 (09:10):
I think it was actually pretty benign when you look
at it from the supermarkets point of view. So it
was the ACE Triple Seed's report was four hundred and
forty one pages long, But basically the key point was
there was no evidence or clear evidence of price gouge.
And obviously this has been a political football and obviously
coming out of the pandemic and whatnot, so that was
probably the key point. They've made recommendations that what the

(09:31):
government should do and basically make sure the stuemakes are
a bit more transparent with respected pricing allows smaller rivals
to grow more quickly. But yeah, basically so they said
the cost of grocers has risen, but it's actually risen
more in other countries, and yeah, it was a bit
of a win for supermarkets. So they've said there's basically
little that can be done about their dominance. And you
look at the market share all these thirty eight percent,

(09:53):
Cole's twenty nine percent, Aldi is someway behind at nine percent.
But all that said, competition has grown, so your costco
like the fe at Amazon and they did one point
three billion in sales last year and you got chemiston
Warehouse and Bunnings as well competing in other line. So
Buty overall feels like the report was relatively benign for
the duo terms of outcomes and investors thought, so Shees
and Coals up five percent, and well we've surged over

(10:15):
six percent on Friday numbers.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Please yeah, so we DOW was.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Up point zero eight percent on Friday forty one nine
eighty five. Likewise, the S and P five hundred that
closed at five sixty six seven, noes deck up half
percent seventeen seven eighty four for two one hundred, down
point six percent eighty six four six and the NICK
down point two percent thirty seven six seven seven A
six two hundred and up point two percent seven nine
to three to one. We were insured X fifty with

(10:40):
up a half percent twelve one one three goal down
twenty two bucks still around record highs threeenty twenty two
and ounce ll up twenty one cents seventy two spot sixteen.
And the currency markets, we were lower against the US
fifty seven point three, up slightly against the strained on
at dollars ninety one point four, British pound forty four
point four, down slightly flat against the G eighty five

(11:00):
point sixty five. This week got plenty going on again,
global PMI inflation numbers and AUSSI UK and the US.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
We get USGDP durable goods orders.

Speaker 8 (11:10):
We've got results in Sinile milk and KMD brands and
another read on consumer confidence.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Good stuff, go well, mate, Grig Smith devon funds Management.
You the Boston Celtics and they sold for six billion
last week. So I can offer you if you missed
out on that, the Oakland A's, which is a baseball team.
They're worth a couple of billion dollars, so cheaper. They
look like they're moving to Vegas and they need to
raise some money about half a billion dollars to fund
the ballpark in Vegas. Last team that was sold as

(11:35):
far as baseball's concerns, the Orioles. They were valued at
one point seven to two. So if you've got a
couple of hundred million just sitting around doing nothing, then
maybe you can get yourself into some baseball. Six twenty one,
you're a News Talks. It'd be.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
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Speaker 2 (11:57):
Talks a b how bad did you feel for the
people on planes? Hundreds of planes all over the world,
and you're flying there towards London. Suddenly the cadget this
is your captain speaking. Unfortunately, he throws on fire and
is closed, will be landing in Paris. I mean, there's
your holiday wrecked to pieces. So the first thing is
that the Energy Secretary of Ed Milliband, who's a very
well known known in British politics, he wants an urgent investigation.

(12:18):
There was some sort of early suspicion that maybe it
might have something to do, you know, the anti terror
people rolled in. But there's nothing suspicious about it apparently.
But the big question mark that was raised over the weekend,
how is it possible that one of the world's busiest
airports is supplied by a singular source of power? So
when the singular source of power goes up, everything stops.

(12:41):
How mad is that?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
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of big brand fatalments.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now, if you haven't caught up on the snow White debarcle,
this might be one for the record books. So we
got the movie. The Movie's Are Bust. Opening day brought
in twenty eight million dollars, opening weekend seventy five million dollars.
Is that a lot? No, it's not because the budget
four hundred and thirty six million, and that doesn't even
include marketing. Couple of main issues, one the decision to
CGI the dwarfs, the doors aren't real, and perhaps of
more concerns the lead, who's a young woman who turns

(13:11):
out to be a nauseating pain in the bunk called
Rachel Zigler, who just is woke to beat all wokeness.
So in the movies or in the interviews for the movie,
she starts whining about the original film and how for
the original film was because it wasn't a love story,
it was the story where snow White couldn't consent. Then
you've got a co star called Galgado, she plays the Queen.

(13:32):
She decided to use the publicity to support the Palestinians,
who of course are not in the movie are anywhere
close to it. So to try and resurrect all of this,
they've released one of the songs and a couple of
clips to YouTube. This is highly unusual given them movies
only three minutes old. I shouldn't tell you. Also, by

(13:52):
the way, they didn't have a launch per se. They
had a very very gentle, quiet launch in what seemed
like the cafeteria at the back of the studio because
they didn't want any people there from the wider world.
In case. The year two forementioned started whining some more
so their Disney parogue business just full of regret, just

(14:19):
making you want to go see the movie. I'm not
feeling not really, it is actually out in theaters now,
sweet speak. If you do go to the movies, I
don't know if anyone goes to the movies anymore, But
if you do go to the movies, put some money
in the meter, because if you don't put the money
in the media, you get a parking ticket. But actually,
don't put some money in the meter, because if you
do get a parking ticket but turns out this morning
with new figures, no one actually follows it up. So

(14:41):
you get a parking ticket, you don't pay it, and
nobody seems to care. And there's tens of millions of
dollars out there apparently, just just waiting for somebody to pay.
We will talk about that because that was quite the seguay.
We will talk about that later on. But Winston Peters
is with us directly after the news, which is next
a news talk zb.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
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News togs he'd been.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
There's another judge n Zones. We'll get to the States
in Richard Donald shortly and the street price out of
Australia very interest has moved from alboin Easy yesterday and
he is supporting people to work from home as part
of a cost of living thing. He's worked out you
can save a lot of money for transportation, which of
course is true, but it goes against everything business is

(15:32):
trying to do and it's tragedy to get people back
in the office. So while we'll have more on that later. Meantime,
at twenty three minutes away from seven, we got the
New Zealand first State of the Nation yesterday in christ Church.
Now we had diversity high as puberty blockers, mining the
Paris Climate Accord. It was all on New Zealand First
leader Winston Peter's with this morning to you. Never mind,
what are you looking to do? You're trying to create
clear ea from coalition partners.

Speaker 10 (15:52):
No, I'm just looking to state the plain facts that
the last election was a process of massiveness. They had
a one month out from the election, a prefew or
the update before the election. It was a tissue of
lies and I pointed out, and which is the reason
why we took so long to turn around of a
sessionary economy back to making progress. Now we do then

(16:16):
that to interact and in the fact surrounding what's going
on in New Zealand, how many things are so contrary
to sound policy?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
When do you reckon? It turns around in people's mind.
Because there was a poll out last week. I don't
know if you've seen it because you've been away, but
it sort of rated you on issues, not you, but
the government on issues and you've got a three out
of ten and it doesn't look good. And your counter
argument will be, will we inherit it a complete enough
shambles as we see the economy turn, when does that
sink in with the voter? Do you reckon?

Speaker 10 (16:47):
My point yesterday was to tell of mainstream media you
stood there, you were the victim and we all were
of a tissue of lies, and you didn't do your
dune job. And that's the reason why we had our
stat of Nation that's on Sunday yesterday, because this week,
just the last week, we finally got the update that
said the economy that you've been paiding is being miserable

(17:07):
is actually on a turnaround, a long way to go.
That's why it was so important.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, but that's why I'm asking, when do you reckon
that's sinson with the voter and they get it and
see it.

Speaker 10 (17:18):
Oh well, look, so many people are university coffee by
express when it comes to political science and those sort
of studies. But we're not concerned about that in these
infest We're concerned to guard there and say that this
country has got a memorous chance to turn itself around
be what we used to be, a leading country. But
we got to do some fundamental things publy, like extraction.

(17:40):
We can't afford to go forward with stupid work signaling policies,
so to speak, like the Paris Accord, which needs to
be re examined because it's actually killing us as an economy.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
When you say the Paris Accord, would you pull out
of the Paris Accord completely?

Speaker 10 (17:56):
Now I'm saving these young people right here, right now,
you've all been sucked into the matter. I'm asking for
a reconsideration. The four countries I named, China, United States,
India and Russia a responsible for almost six percent of
the carbon credits of the carbon issues we've got, and
where at point is zero point one seven. What on

(18:17):
earth can we possibly do? And we've been signing up
to process where twenty two billion plus is going to
come out of our economy to some foreign economy and
nobody knows.

Speaker 11 (18:27):
Why do you do?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You feel uncomfortable though, that although the National Party have
driven this and it's being paired back, it's just not
pared back as much as you would like, and therefore
that's an ideological battle or not.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
Look, you've asked me the question, and the question answer
is really this. They went there in twenty sixteen and
signed up to parison. Nobody knows why as an exercise
where they were persuaded that somehow this will work. It's not.
And no one's paying attention to earn the big economy,

(19:02):
so to speak, and we're just on a futile mission here.
And it doesn't make any sense. I'm saying, if you're
going to tend twenty two billion dollars, then why not
spend in your own economy, in your own country and
trying to fix the problem yourself. It is just, to
my sense and my party sense, a waste of our time.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
The Labor line when you said, as the Labor Party,
this current loss. If they got rid of a few
of them, would you look at them again or are
they out full stop?

Speaker 10 (19:32):
Look, mister Hevgins displayed his awful incompetence when he was
in the jobs that he did have. He had one
after the other jobs. He gets to become the leader
of the Labor Party, has a bonfire of all their
policies and then he gives us speech as I said yesterday,
setting out why they got things wrong on the Harbor Bridge,
strug Away light rail and all those things. If they

(19:54):
hadn't done the homework, he said, and that's why things failed.
If you're that incompetent the first time around, why would
you trust and to do the job the second time around?
But I don't know why everybody keeps asking this question
because I stand for a particle in New Zealand first.
But other parties policies oars their business, but not ours.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Rubio, how well informed was he of what's happening in
this part of the world.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
It was essentially well informed, and so was his team,
and so was the the security and National security advisor
for Donald Trump, Walsh mess. There were seriously well advised
about those issues that you've raised, and unusually so, because
you know, I've been there in pastimes where I found

(20:37):
that people have not been as well prepared as they were.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Good to talk to, you appreciate it. Winston Peaus, New
Zealand First Leader, eighteen two.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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Speaker 12 (20:49):
It be.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Interesting insight into the trust or lack of and media.
It's an Edelman survey published in Australia last week. But
as far as we're concerned, trust in the media sits
at thirty five percent. Is that good? No, it's not
because the global average is fifty two. But I'll work
you through that later on six forty five.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
International Correspondence with Ensit Eye Insurance Peace of Mind for
New Zealand Business Rich Donald.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Good Money, morning to you. Pensions and Lucknik. Where are
we at?

Speaker 13 (21:18):
Yeah, the system of old age pensions here is very
much in the spotlight right now. This is money that
is taken from everyone's wages and put into a separate
fund to pay social security checks as they call them.
It was put into effect by Roosevelt in the nineteen thirties,
so been around for a long long while. Sort of
a fundamental aspect of US governance. The role of the

(21:40):
administration was to bank the money and send out pension payments. Sadly,
governments from both parties took some of the money and
spent it on other things. So the fund has some issues.
Now into Elon Musk, who calls the system a Ponzi scheme,
which it certainly is not. It's tax byer money, nothing
to do with Musk and whatever he might want to
spend it on. And now Trump's Commas secretary how it?

(22:01):
Lutnik says, what does it matter if all the folks
don't get their chicks on time?

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Let's say Social Security didn't send out their checks.

Speaker 12 (22:10):
This month.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
My mother in law.

Speaker 12 (22:13):
Who's ninety four, she wouldn't call and com play.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
She just wouldn't.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
She thinks something got messed up and she'll get it
next one h.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
A fraudster always makes the loudest noise, screaming, yelling and complaint.

Speaker 14 (22:29):
What the hell is wrong with this guy and the
idiot interviewer.

Speaker 13 (22:32):
You don't get a promise pension payment, well, you know,
get some cash from your X Wall Street to invest
a son. Because anyone who complains would be a criminal, right,
Former Commissioner of Social Security, Martin o'melli says this is
despicable because she says.

Speaker 15 (22:47):
Forty percent of all seniors living alone depend entirely upon
Social Security.

Speaker 13 (22:51):
Yeah, we're talking about forty million people. Emeli, a Democrat, says.

Speaker 15 (22:56):
People should be rightly outraged. They have worked their whole
lives for these benefits. They have worked over generations to
make sure that they could be there for their own
kids and grandkids. And what's going on right now at
Social Security is absolutely appalled.

Speaker 13 (23:11):
Well, what's going on? Here's the dealon masks. Minions have
announced plans to fire thousands of people who work at
Social Security and also to close field offices where elderly
people might have been taking their concerns, so you know,
they might have traveled a bit further, lot further.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Who knows all this?

Speaker 13 (23:25):
While Trump's acting head of Social Security threatened the other
day to shut down the entire Social Security Administration in
a couple of days on set Ah didn't mean it, folks,
because after all, if you don't get a pension check, Mike,
what's the worry?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
What's it matter? Where are we at with the Dems?

Speaker 13 (23:40):
Yeah, better late than ever. The top Democrat in the Senate,
Chuch Humor is trying to hit back against complaints within
his own party, mostly that Democrats are weak in responding
to the Trump administration that have been calls for human
to quit. He says today not quitting. He is also
responding belatedly to those who slammed him for signing on
to that temporary debt increase which prevented the government shutdown
the other day. A number of them said they should

(24:02):
not have cooperated with Republicans in keeping the government open
with a Continuing Resolution CR in which the Dems had
no input, but their votes were needed to get it
pass well. Schumer now is explaining his worries a bit more,
that Trump and Musk would have taken charge completely and
could have kept the government closed for months.

Speaker 16 (24:19):
Who determines how long the shutdown would last. Only those
evil people at the top of the executive branch in
the Trump administration, And one Senator Republican told a Democratic
senator colleague of mine, and this guy is close, This
Republican senator is close to the DOJE mask people. They
would keep the government shut down for six months, nine

(24:40):
months a year, till everyone was furloughed.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So that's his take.

Speaker 13 (24:44):
Meantime, left wing lives Senator Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Kazio
Cootis have been out on the campaign trail doing rallies
in Republican red states and drawing just big numbers. Bernie
Sanders just had some thirty thousand people attending an event
in Denver, is more than he ever drew when he
was actually running for president.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, all right, might catch up Wednesday, Richard Arnold state, So,
I just before we leave that part of the world,
I mentioned the federal judge temporary restraining order barring Doge
from getting access to personally identifiable information at the Social
Security Administration. Then we got associated with Doge. Elon Tesler
company called Edmunds have put out interesting information over the
weekend in March. They saw the highest ever they deal

(25:26):
with the car industry in America, the highest ever share
of people trading in their tesla's. People can't trade in
tesla's fast enough. Also over the weekend, unfortunately, the cyber
truck has been recalled. Forty six thousand cyber trucks have
been recalled, which is pretty much every cyber truck that's
ever been made has been recalled because those bits are
falling off. I did read also over the weekend. Unfortunately,

(25:48):
there's a cyber truck somewhere in the country at the
moment doing the rounds in the publicity round so I
don't know if that's one of those cyber trucks.

Speaker 17 (25:53):
It's going to be so anyway, they seems to be recalled.
So often are they recalling it from the places that
they've recalled them time?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
No idea. I know whether you also have to pick
up the bits that fell off to send them back either.
It gets tricky, doesn't it. Nine minutes away from seven
the make.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Hosking breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities news togs had
been if.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Trust in the media not particularly high. This is the
trust barometer. Thirty five percent of people think they've got
trust in the New Zealand media are down by once.
It hasn't really moved, but the global averages fifty two.
What you do and what does tend to skew the
global averages. You get repressed countries where there's a great
deal of government control. In other words, the press isn't free,

(26:31):
and those people tend to believe in the media more
so than in more free, open societies like New Zealand.
It's down from forty one in twenty twenty two. Competence
and ethics in the New Zealand media well underwater. Negative
ratings only matched by government agencies, which is disturbing. Social
media is down eight points to twenty percent, and I
have no idea way we trust social media at all.

(26:52):
Sixty seven percent of those believe reporters and journalists lie.
Isn't that amazing? Sixty seven percent words, the vast majority
of people believe reporters and journalists lie or purposely mislead.
For government leaders, it's fifty eight. For business leaders, it's
fifty nine. In the media it is sixty seven. Pretty roping,

(27:17):
And I can see how people come to that conclusion.
They don't lie. Journalists do not lie, certainly the ones
I know do not lie. But do they mislead? And
that is the vexed and interesting debate five minutes away
from seven, all the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
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Speaker 2 (27:40):
Now we've got a link now between the Trump tariffs
and the real estate market. So this comes from related
group Varsit guy called John Paul Perez. They're a real
estate development company that operates in seven US states and
around the world. Indeed, he says, before the tariffs have
even come in, the subcontractors are already putting up their
prices by as much as twenty percent. This is of
the old inflation story all over again. It's reading the
report that was and Economics over the weekend in America

(28:02):
saying there is just no dispute that tariffs are inflation.
You can't escape the simple truth that prices go up.
People pass on the costs. In this case, they're passing
on the cost before anything's actually happened. It's all based
on the anticipation of higher costs. Of course, could likely
go even higher when the tariffs actually start in the
early part of April. Just for the construction of materials alone.

(28:23):
The National Association of home Builders it says it could
add more than thirty thousand dollars to each build for
a standard home. The luxury into the market remains unchanged,
which is interesting. It's the market where the houses are
between one and three million that's showing the most volatility.
So that's the American housing market. I got to ask
somebody this week. I don't know who we're going to
get on, but somebody's This beef thing's got me fascinated

(28:44):
because there's a big station in Australia over the beef,
and I mentioned it briefly last week. So the Americans
sell a tremendous amount of beef to the Australian sell
a tremendous amount of beef to the Americans, as indeed
de we. But the Americans are not happy. They finally
got it on their radar and they're banging down the
door of the White House to say that the balance
is not there and the Australians do not import any

(29:05):
American beef. Now I don't know whether we import in
the American beef either, So if they've got the Australians
and their sites, they might well have us in their sites.
And given how well we're doing with America at the moment,
and it's not just in beef, it's and things like wine,
I wonder if we're just not in for a spot
of bother there. But we'll have a look at this
throughout the week as as the opportunity presents itself. Now,
all the people in India, you'll be thrilled to They

(29:27):
actually got back to the country, so that's good. Means
the planes work, So that's the first encouraging news. Second
thing is what happens next this free trade? What happens
when's this happening? Are we going to do it in
thirty days, sixty days and ninety days? And what's it
going to mean to the country. Gris Wiley passed away
over the weekend. It's been a faint old story to
tell you about Gris Wiley when I last met him,
meet him in Timaru? What will we doing in Timaru?
I hear you ask, well, a happy answer later and

(29:49):
as Judith Collins our version of dog, we'll have a
look at the public service as well. Meantime news is next?
Your news still.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
This opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking breakfast
with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and use
talks dead being.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Those who spent seven past seven, by the way, those
who spent the past week in India with our trade
delegation of back. The headline was the FTA. Of course
talks are underway. There was some hope we can stitch
it up in a couple of months. Apparently New Zealand
Trade and Enterprise CEO Petter Cristmas with US Peter Morning,
Good morning mich How much of what unfolded last week
was predetermined before we even left the country.

Speaker 18 (30:29):
Well, I know that mister McClay had been worsening on
the through trade agreement for quite some period before then,
so but we didn't really know exactly what was going
to happen until we arrived.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
How far down the track are we in talks?

Speaker 18 (30:42):
I look, anything about the free trade agreement I really
need to leave to Minister maclay and the Foreign Ministry
because as you can understand, it's very sensitive. I won't
be negotiating in public. So I'll say away from that.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
One, what's your sense of the goodwill level? Is their
genuine good will on both sides to make this thing
work handstick?

Speaker 19 (31:03):
I think?

Speaker 18 (31:03):
So there was without doubt considerable warmth, an engagement between
the Prime Minister and Prime Minister Modi that was very evident,
and also throughout the business Delegation and the Community Delegation
was one hundred and twenty of us in the market.
There was lots and lots of engagement and interaction. We

(31:24):
had thirty three different deliverables that we signed up, which
was just a whole pednacles of access and partnerships all
over the country. So yeah, it seemed pretty genuine to us.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
The sadness for me has been we should have been
there ages agoh, I mean this has been there is
sitting duck ready to do some business, aren't they.

Speaker 18 (31:47):
Well, I think you know, it's just really the convergence
for both countries. I mean, India is really just starting
to open up. It's the biggest latent demand pool in
the world. You've got a billion new assumers coming on.
But it's quite recent for them to sort of open
their open themselves up.

Speaker 12 (32:05):
I mean, and they're not.

Speaker 18 (32:06):
Going to open themselves up to any country to sell it,
and they're really more looking for countries who want to
partner with them. So it's not really a cell too,
it's a partner with and so these things take a
long time to curate. This just doesn't happen overnight.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Those this whole sixty days, ninety days whatever. Does anyone
actually have a clue. We're just making that up as
we go along.

Speaker 18 (32:29):
Again, I'll leave that Minister maclay and what he would
like to say publicly about that.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
I read a couple of reports from reporters from behind
the scenes. It seemed a draining old exercise. It was
full on, is that fair?

Speaker 18 (32:42):
Yeah, it was a huge week. Arrived at Monday mornings.
Sort of my head spinning a bit, huge week, but
you know, energetic and yeah, it's great. It was great
to be with a whole lot of people from New
Zealand and going to a country together to take on
a country for the of New Zealand. They are very strong,
positive feeling about the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Good stuff. Peter appreciated it. Peter Crisp, who's the CEO
of New Zealand Trade and Enterprise, Tim and it's past seven,
gonna be robed. Look up there. Sort of the behind
the scenes quite interesting insight. Many of the journalists who went,
who wrote their reports complained a lot about how they
couldn't get access to anything because they had their phones
taken off them and their record has taken off them,
and their notepad's taken off them, and their bags taken
off them and everything taken off them. And that's how

(33:24):
the media internationally works. You don't just get to rock
up to people like Mody and ask them about you know,
the price of butter, it doesn't work that way. You
sit in the holding room and you don't go anywhere,
and that's journalism one oh one around most international markets,
which just reminds you how extraordinarily unusual slash lucky we
might be in having the access to our politicians. But

(33:46):
the background's probably worth having a look at. So eleven
minutes past seven Auckland. Along with many other problems, it
turns out this morning has as you're run, parking finds
that aren't being paid. Of all the tickets issued since
twenty twenty one, only sixty eight percent of them have
actually been paid. The New Zealand Parking Association chair Mike
Kelly as well as Mike Morning, I'm very well, indeed,

(34:07):
thank you. That's my learnings for that. I didn't know
we had a parking association. How long has that been around.

Speaker 11 (34:12):
I've been around for about thirty years now, so yeah,
supporting all of the councils throughout the country, private parking
operators and various equipment and system suppliers.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
The problem, well, so if you can talk from a
national point of view, so I don't bore the rest
of the nation whitlass with yet another Auckland story the
payment of tickets. Is that an issue anywhere outside of
Auckland or is it an urban thing or what?

Speaker 11 (34:34):
No, it's across the country. Most councils I think that
you talk to will have will had the same concerns
that we have a limited window to have our tickets paid,
either directly to the council or through using parties like Baycorp.
And then there's a limitation on how long before we
can send them to the Ministry of Justice, which is

(34:54):
the usually x escalation process.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Is there a site called have a psychology at play here?
I don't take it seriously, therefore I don't pay it,
And that's the bit that needs to change.

Speaker 11 (35:07):
Yeah, I think so. There are lots of people out
there that have hundreds of tickets, that will get tickets
every day for repetitive offenses and not be too bothered
about that at all, and they just go to the
Ministry of Justice and get added onto their.

Speaker 12 (35:22):
If you like.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And what happens to me, nothing?

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I mean, it can go to go. I mean literally,
nothing's going to happen to me, is it?

Speaker 11 (35:28):
That's probably more a question for the Ministry of Justice,
because once it's been sent to them. It's out of
the road patrolling authority's hands. So yeah, it's you know,
it is up to them to try and enforce that
on our behalf. And it's not a cheap process to
engage them as a defllection option, So they.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Need to chase it up harder. And if they chase
it up harder, they might get to action. The problem
you've got is the antagonism, haven't you, Because I'll get
these tickets from bus lanes and cycle lanes and I
hate them, and i hate the people who did them
to me, and I'm angry, and so therefore I'm not
going to pay them.

Speaker 11 (35:59):
There's a piece of that too, and I mean some
of the things that we have to do also is
to move the legislation forward and be a bit more current.
You know, for example, we're required by law to either
place a parking ticket on a windshield or send it
in the post. As fablish applies to councils rather than
the private operators. Because in the land, in the registration

(36:20):
system for your vehicle, there is no email, there is
no verification of the data, and nobody actually verifies your
address or verifies that if I sell my vehicle to you.
You know, if you don't actually sign the piece of
paper say I've purchased that vehicle, it sits at limbo.
And of course we can't find out who actually is
responsible for that.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
Ticket exactly all right, Mike good On, So I appreciate
it very much. Mike Kelly, who's the New Zealand Parking
Association chair. Thirteen minutes past seven. On the beef, we
export one point three to seven billion or beef to them,
second biggest export market behind China. We import next to nothing.
Now I don't know whether we import next to nothing.
We import thirty one million, thirteen point seven percent of

(37:02):
the stuff we import. I don't know if we import
next to nothing because we make our own and therefore
we don't need theirs, or we're like the Australians and
we've got rules and regulations around the import where but
effie about it. And if that's the case, no matter
what's the case, whether the Americans are going to look
at us and go there are the numbers, there's an imbalance,
and we're going to terrify our way out of that trouble.

(37:24):
So that's something to watch. Fourteen past the.

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Speaker 2 (37:33):
Judith Collins as the Public Service Minister. They sent out
this weird sort of questionnaire asking public servants to go,
so what do you think of your job?

Speaker 11 (37:41):
What do you do?

Speaker 12 (37:41):
All that?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It's very doge anyway, they're going to publish those results
and presumably do something about it, So we'll talk about
that shortly meantime. At seventeen past seven, Alex Wiley, as
I'm well aware, one of rugby's greats passed away yesterday.
He was eighty, had a ninety one percent success rates
as an All Blacks coach, played eleven tests for the
All Blacks in the early seventies. Former All Black and
his nephew, Richard Lowe, is what this Richard, very good
morning to you.

Speaker 20 (38:02):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I guess you're on that tricky business of sort of
private grief as a family having to sort of share
it with the nation, aren't you.

Speaker 20 (38:10):
Yeah, I suppose you are the family close family are
I think anyone tied up with Rugby will be remembering
him for what he did.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
He was a time a well ioway saw him anyway
as a time and a place sort of bloke, hugely influential,
but in that old fashioned New Zealand not a lot
of words kind of with it way. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (38:34):
I probably remember him first of all as an uncle
that played for the All Blacks. But then it was
quite quite interesting. I departed school at at fairly early
age and ended up by playing Gemark, where he was
captain number eight and along with him the Graham Higginsons

(38:56):
and the Andy Jeffords, another couple of All Blacks. And
you know, you grow up from being a schoolboy to
a young man very quickly under that sort of leadership.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Was he likable beyond the gruffness? Yeah?

Speaker 20 (39:09):
I think over the years he's mallowed, which a lot
will say. But you know, I heard Don Hayes say
about him last night. You know, yeah, he came across
his gruff and hard and everything and which he was
in his playing days and probably coaching days two. But
as Don said, he was a big, softy under thing.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Do you reckon he transcends the ere. I always think
about people, I mean, twenty five year olds listening to
this game, Griz who do you think he's bigger than
the era in which he was around?

Speaker 20 (39:39):
Specifically, Yeah, probably probably is in a lot of ways.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
He he.

Speaker 20 (39:46):
Coached and played with a hell of a lot of
people and left his mark. And I would suggest, you
know that sort of thing, we'll go down in history.
And I know up at the Glenmark Club he's held
right up up higher on the pedestal, so you know
his history will continue for many many decades to come.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Good good insight. Richard appreciated Richard Low, Who's nephew. And
I'll tell the story later. But I played pool with
them once in Timaru and somebody just came up to me.
I happened to be in Timaru and they said, do
you want to play a game of pool with Gris Wiley?
Which is not what you expect because I wasn't in Timrou.
It wasn't like a professional circuit that we were traveling

(40:31):
on the Paul tournament circuit. I was in Timaru for
other reasons. They said do you want to play Gris Wiley?
And Paul I said why not? But then came the story. Anyway, seven.

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sevent twenty three other swing and I miss I'm afraid
to tell you contact a as an energy as in
the power company wanted to build a wind farm in Southland.
They've been turned down. Are they not the first? They
will not be the last. Close to three hundred million
dollars and hundreds of jobs are now not going to happen. Also,
the need to build fifteen gigawatts of additional capacity in

(42:13):
the next twenty five years will not be happening either.
So far we've built three gigawatts. We're entering what's actually
less than three. We're entering yet another winter where it's
touch and go on power supply. The minister's been busy
whacking his finger at the gent tailor's. The Climate campaign
has bark on about the role of renewables. We continue
to import record amounts of coal to cover the gap.
We've cut a deal to keep Huntly going ever longer.

(42:33):
Because the renewable dream is getting further and further away.
Renewables may or may not be the answer to our
problem at all. The simple truth about water, sun and
wind is there beyond our control. Coal and nuclear isn't.
But we seem to insist renewables are what we want
to do, and yet we don't do it. That is
nimbiism as far as I can work out's going to
kill us. We seem happy to be shocked every year

(42:53):
at the coal pile. We seem to be happy to
be unhappy at the idea we don't have enough power
to get us through winter. The industry who tells us
they're investing in wind and solar, but are they? How
many get turned down versus how many actually get the
go ahead? Are we actually progressing or taking a step
forward and then a step back? Here's your ultimate irony.
There's been a lot said about this government's fast track law.

(43:14):
Right their fast track law is actually just an extension
or an amendment of the old fast track law which
Labour produced during COVID. Under that fast track law, this
particular wind project that I talk of got turned down.
So is a no fast track or no track? Hey question,

(43:34):
if you can't get a wind farm through under fast track,
are we actually into solving issues or not Faski. My
Australian lady was on zeb She said, the US did
stuff to their beef and that's why, yeah, I know,
I know all that they stick stuff in there, and
that's why the Australians object to bringing beef in the
guards full of this and that and the next thing.
But that's not gonna matter to do you think Lutnik.

(43:55):
You think that Lutnik's gonna deal with the nuance of that.
I don't think so, Mike. Journalists are no longer perceived
as objective. You went off on this. I gave you
that survey, the Edelman survey before seven o'clock. Journalists are
no longer perceived as objective. Reporting has been corrupted by
the perspective of the organization and the confronting opinions of
the reporter. It's one hundred percent true. And I've watched
it happen in my forty four years in this industry.

(44:16):
I've watched the whole thing slowly but surely, sadly implode.
COVID was the final straw, as far as I can
work out, And as I've said on this program about
a million times, the worst of it is not a
person like me. You know who I am, You know
what I think, you know what I'm about, straight up
and down. Like me, don't like me, whatever the case.
The worst of it is the person who pretends to
be neutral but isn't. And that's where it's all gone
horribly wrong. Mike. The problem with our media is that

(44:37):
they believe for anyone to read their content, they have
to be a hero, has to have a hero and
a villain, and in doing so they shape and exclude facts,
which means they skew their view. It's not a bad point, Mike.
Some media lie by omission when they push an agenda
or a narrative lacking balance or objectivity. I suppose the
counter to that is that you can work that out
for yourself. Mikey is serious. After COVID and all the

(44:57):
false information the Labor government feeding us through the media,
I will never trust them again. There's a lot of that.
Judith Collins with her questionnaire for the public service and
where I mean, how many reports of the public service
do we need? We got the Deloitte one into health
the other day, we've got the Brian Roche one that
says they're not up to it and they're not fit
for purpose. Now Judith's sending out her little pamphlet to
ask some more questions as well. How many questions? How

(45:19):
about just a bit of doge Judith Collins after the
news which is next here a News Talks.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
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Speaker 2 (45:41):
Did you catch the interview with Alex Elbon about Redbull's
front end, the stiffness settings that Max likes and how
the impact on the other driver? Yes? I did, and
that's a long standing issue and we haven't covered poor
old Liam, who's in the fight of his life at
the moment, but we will shortly twenty three minutes away
from eight before we do that. Thanks not a look

(46:02):
at the public service with the government asking whether the
work provides value for the tax payer. We've got thousands
of workers having been required to identify areas for further
cost cutting across every government agency. The Internal Census also
looked at the use of TERRAO and the work from
home arrangements. The results are expected later on this year.
The Public Service Minister Judith Collins isn't chargeable of this
and she's with us.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
Good morning, oh and good morning to you mate.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Now what have we got going on here? Is this
a phishing expedition? Do you have a path you already
want to follow? What are we doing?

Speaker 12 (46:29):
Well?

Speaker 7 (46:30):
The Public Service Commission has previously done a survey of
public servants and this is one which is very focused on,
first off, a few things, one how to save tax
payer money? Are there opportunities that the public service servants
can actually see themselves? But it's also around saying things
like sexual and harassment and bullying are not acceptable the workplace,

(46:54):
so let us know if your concerns are being met.
So there's a two way. But there's other things too.
It's quite a wide ranging census.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
I've been through these things before. When you say are
there savings to be made, they come back and say,
we'll have different buns at morning tea and we'll save
on paper clips. It's a waste of time.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
Well, I don't know that it is actually the public
service when when we took over in government just over
a year ago had grown in six years by thirty
four percent. As well as consultant spending is going right
through the roof. So no, I don't think so. I
think what there are there will be some people who

(47:36):
think this is a bit of a joke. But the
words that are used in this sense is that all
the way through it are taxpayers money. That's something that
needs to be rammed home every single day that there
is no money from government. It's taxpayers money, either taxpayers
now or taxpayers in the future. So that's a message

(47:57):
that's very clearly all the way through the sense.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Why don't you just doge them, get in their bulldoze
the place, clean it up.

Speaker 7 (48:06):
I don't think we've got quite the same situation as
the federal government in the US. And the other thing too,
is that we're going to have a We've asked for
savings on consultants outside consultants. We're looking for four hundred
million dollars I think Wednesday this week the results were out.
I'm expecting that to be considerably more than that. So

(48:27):
we are looking for the savings and a lot of
the public servants they want to be efficient, they want
to be effective, and they want to be proud of
their work.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well I'm not sure about that, because I've read the
Roche report and I've read the Deloittees report into the Health.
The Roche report said the public service is not fit
for purpose, So don't you have the ammunition you need.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
Well, we've got the Roach in charge of it now,
so we are sorting it and you're going to find
that there are going to be big changes. So Brian
wrote to the Commission of Public Service. He's been pretty clear.
There are some things he thinks we should get rid
of altogether. There are other things that he thinks to
be done more effectively. We are absolutely working on that.

(49:07):
At the same time, we have to keep things moving
and we are and you know, if people want a
doze and all that, we have to work within the law.
And the other thing is we've got changes the Public
Service Act which are coming up because under Chris Hipkins
when he was in government, what they did is they
put all this rubbish into the key concerns for chief

(49:30):
executives the public service of bringing everything back to basics.
Do the job, do it well, do it efficiently, and
remember someone else's pain and by the way, that someone
else's youth.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
When you talk about the Deloitte's report into Health New
Zealand and their problems and I watch both year over
the weekend talking about Health New Zealand being a problem
around the freedom of information, is that individual units that
are more problematic than others.

Speaker 7 (49:56):
Well, health is not my portfolio. I'm happy to give
you my view that when you take was it twenty
eight mostly dysfunctional organizations put them together. Nobody loses their jobs.
Everyone keeps a job and gets a new title of manager.
You're going to get a problem. And that's what they did.

Speaker 6 (50:13):
Labor did.

Speaker 7 (50:13):
So it is being sorted, but it is going to
take some time. But you know, it's like merging dysfunctional
agencies never brings about instantly. A better functioning agency just
doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
No, it does not. I wish you were were that.
Judith Collins, Public Services Minister, eighteen minutes away from eight
task gets why doesn't the sports team give Liam credit
or even mentioned for passing or finishing seven places from
starting up from twenty Well he didn't, he didn't, And
then that I need to explain it in just a
couple of moments if you missed the story, because the
story is becoming more complex and detailed and problematic for
Liam just quickly. This is where the government gets themselves

(50:50):
into trouble and I'll be talking to the Prime Minister
about it tomorrow. Things they want to do versus things
that are actually happening. So the Construction minister guy called
Chris Pink, he's criticizing counsels now for what he's calling
stopping the clock. This is on building consent applications. Right,
sixty percent of the applications are paused so authorities can
request further information. Now, the whole government idea was to

(51:12):
speed everything up. That's why they're reforming the RMA, and
we're going to make life easier to build a house
and you can have more house for less rules and
so on. Anyway, there's one hundred and forty six hundred
and fifty five applications processed. Medium processing time of nine days.
So far, so good. Statutory obligation says you've got a
process by twenty days after receiving the application, though the

(51:33):
authority can make a request for further information an rfine. Now,
when you do that, it stops the clock. And stops
the clock. Mean your days don't tick buy anymore. And
given the bulk of them asked to stop the clock,
all of a sudden it becomes more expensive and more delayed,
and he's saying, well, wait a minute, here, the cost
of this, an estimated twelve day working delay, adds an

(51:55):
extra four thousand dollars per house. And when you're doing it,
sixty five percent of the time count are not doing
what the government wants him to do. So on one hand,
you make the big grand announcement and say, here's what
we're going to do. Here are the new rules, here's
how it's going to work, and here's how much money
you're going to say. Real world, it doesn't happen, and
that's why the government's a bit bogged down with the
stuff at the moment.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
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Speaker 2 (52:22):
It'd be fourteen away from it. So your heart goes
out to Liam Lawson at the moment because he's he's
on the verge of getting not sacked. He'll be replaced
and put into the racing bulls if things don't improve
and improved dramatically. Micah thought he came fifteenth, not twelfth.
If you missed, did he came? A couple of people
got disqualified, So, in other words, did he work his

(52:42):
way up the field. Not really a couple of cars
retired after the end of the race too. Ferrari's got disqualified,
ghastly got disqualified for technical issues, and so therefore he
sort of almost came twelfth by default. The more important thing,
and this is a very good text, Mike Newby here
one you be here, can you give us an insight
as to why the red Bull car is so hard

(53:03):
to drive? For a second drive. The answer, in really
simple terms is to make a car compliant, you need downforce.
These cars operate their best on downforce, and the more
downforce you have, the more stable the car is. In
other words, downforce forces the car into the ground. If
you didn't have downforce, the car is so light and
so powerful it would simply leave the ground. So you

(53:26):
use downforce to give it traction. Now Max uses less
downforce the front than he does at the back. So,
in other words, if you have the same at the
front and the same at the back, you have it's
a balanced car. The problem with the balanced car is
doesn't go as fast, and so you try and unbalance
the car to the point where you can drive it
where it's got less downforce but more speed. And the

(53:48):
brilliance of a Stappen is he's able to do that
in a way that most other people can't.

Speaker 17 (53:52):
I see one of those guys who sort of leans
forward over the steering wheel bit when he drives.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Probably not, but anyway, Liam and it hasn't been given
enough practice. And that's another weird quirk of the sport.
There are very there is very little time you get
to spend behind the car. So it's not like he
sits there in the car during Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday
just driving it round and round and around and getting
really used to it.

Speaker 17 (54:13):
Can you not sneak out in the middle of the night.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
You can't because they hear the engine when you start it.
And so the problem is that Max drives it in
a way that only Max can drive it, and nobody
else seems to now. When they went for the test
at Silverstone last year, Liam, after seven months of not
driving it, jumped in and got within two tenths of
Max for step and they saw that and they went
the guy can drive. He still can drive. They know
he can drive. They've got the data to show he

(54:36):
can drive. What he can't do at the moment is
bring the confidence with him to do it and it's
killing him and so it's one of those scenarios in
which the worse it gets, the worse it gets. And
so my guess and gut is they'll give him Japan
on a week and a half's time and if he
doesn't to it, because that track he knows, and he's
been on China and Australia he hadn't, so you've got

(54:57):
to give him that. So if he can't perform in
jan and they're going to drop them, they'll put them
in the Racing Bulls and they'll probably elevate THENOA on that,
I note that a helmet Marco over the weekend said
that look at Hedger who's in the Racing Bulls team
as well. But as short answer to your question, it's
the balance of the car. And the car is so
unbalanced you need to be a freak to drive it,

(55:17):
and Vastapens a freak and Liam unfortunately it's not.

Speaker 17 (55:22):
I don't understand though why. I mean, they're two different cars.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
They set them up the same way. They don't have
the material, the resources, the money, the time to they
can tweak, which they did. If you notice Liam started
from the pit lane they did a couple of things
in Melbourne. They had, for example, a different nose, of
different downforce wing and they tweaked little bits and pieces,
but the fundamentals remain the same. It's like driving a
Toyota versus driving a truck. It's still a truck and

(55:47):
it's still a Toyota. You can put mags on it,
you can put a flag on it, you can change
the upholstery. It's still a truck and it's still a Toyota.
And that's what it boils down to. So he's stuck
with the red Bull recipe, turn away from it.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
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Speaker 2 (56:03):
Baking of sports, have sorts seven away from a Sharp
Blacks chasing the World Cup in Paris, Ada, Barbez Butcher
is going to be testing their skill sets against thirteen
other countries in twenty twenty two. We've got bronze Sharp
Blacks Captain Ricky Kittikitty is what this rookie morning to you?

Speaker 12 (56:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Modern, I might is this thing getting bigger each year
in terms of participation and interest?

Speaker 19 (56:25):
Yeah, absolutely become a global event. I think they've got
a couple of new countries that are coming from the Asia. Yeah,
it's just gets big every year and looking forward to
getting there.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Good. We've got a team of eight. How do they
get selected? What are they what are they looking for?

Speaker 19 (56:42):
So we have it's actually more than We also have
young butchers and young apprentices competing and we have a
team the Sharplick Team, which is six. We also have
a reserve, so that's seven. But basically the young butchers
and apprentices are competing in their own event against the
best young butcher's and apprentices in the country. They are
selected through our competition, our local competition. If you win that,

(57:06):
go on to the final and win that. That's part
of the prize, which is a great prize, get to
travel around the world and compete against the best with
the team a bit different. So this team that we
have is the same team we head back in Sacramento
when we did the selection process. We went through the
opened up to whoever wants to apply and went to

(57:26):
the process with the panel and pretty much the same
team came back, was selected and performing in Paris.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Brilliant. You've got any sense of where you're at when
it comes to the competition.

Speaker 19 (57:40):
I continue, we're as far as where we stand on
the global stage, very good. And past competitions because there
had been Sharp Legs before us as well, pretty much
always on the podium, had first seconds. Obviously Sacramento we
got the bronze. So yeah, very good. We're held in
high esteem and we've got some great skillful butchers in

(58:03):
our country and we love to showcase it.

Speaker 20 (58:05):
Around the world.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Fantastic. Go well, hope you win. Ricky Ketticia, here's the
Sharp Blacks captain with us this morning, six minutes away
from eight. I make good analysis on the Red Bull
laws and for staff and except if they dump them,
that'll be the fourth second driver fail. All four can't
be that bad, as James Vale said, blame the problem,
not the person. James Valles as the head of Williams
of course, which brings into the text. So Perez wasn't

(58:28):
that bad at all. Well, he wasn't that bad if
Lawson fails, And of course Perez wasn't the first. We've
had Ghasly and elbon Go before him. Antonelli, Mike did
ten thousand k's practice prior to the start of the year.
That's true. There are very very strong rules around what
you can practice, or when you can practice, what you can't.
And what they did with Lewis and what they did
with Antonelli is they gave them old cars. And you

(58:48):
can go in old cars and just go around the
track and practice a lot more than you can in
a current car. So Lawson missed out on that.

Speaker 17 (58:55):
Also, could he can not have got like on an
e scooter or something and just gone round and around
Albert Park. No, during the Christmas holidays or something.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
No, Okay, Red Bull got into this mess by not
going outside the doing the season testing. Leen never got
to spend time to get All of that's true. All
of that's true. But here's your problem. When Helmet and
Christian get together, none of that's going to be discussed.
Helmet's not going to go. Do you think Christian we
might have given them an old carra but yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

(59:23):
and yes, but that still doesn't solve their problem. For Japan,
so Yuki Sonoda, if Yuki can come in and do
something brilliant, then the problem solved. If Yuki comes in
and he can't do it, and had you comes in
and he can't do it, and then nobody can do it,
and then you go back to what James Vale said.
But the problem do not underestimate the Yanks and the
team because v Stappans not winning, So they're not winning

(59:46):
the Driver's Championship and they're not winning the Constructors' Championship
and that leads to very unhappy people. And when they
get to be very unhappy and Red Bull, they get
to sack you. And so this is where we're at
as we head to Japan in a week and a
half's time. News for you in a couple of moments.
Then Jason and Andrew will be the business.

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Speaker 21 (01:00:17):
It is no wrong, no one common bucking knowings. And
I don't think anyone, particularly nifty lives up the bonus point.
And it is the Reds who win by twenty nine
to twenty three.

Speaker 17 (01:00:34):
You want to get one.

Speaker 20 (01:00:37):
And the Crusader's forty two nineteen climb up at Aden Park,
back top.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Back victories, Gord, the Warriors here in twenty twenty five
Pakistans have been hammered.

Speaker 22 (01:00:53):
You're zeal and win by one hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Who may have minisuast eight Andrew helvill of Us along
with Jason Pine Morning fellas, Mike Andrew, how well do
you know? Gris Wiley.

Speaker 23 (01:01:16):
Had quite a bit to do with them when I
worked in christ Church in my formative years, Mike, as
you would have too, I think around those times like
late eighties, early nineties. Of course grew up as you did,
grew up idolizing Grizz and that Canterbury team that won
the Shield in the early eighties and held on to
it before that lost to Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
He was, you know, the words.

Speaker 23 (01:01:37):
Legend and greater often thrown around a bit, but he
was a true legend of Canterbury, not only Canterbury rugby
but the province itself. When you think of Cannaby rugby,
you think of Grizz Wiley from from North Canterbury days
through to coaching them, through to playing for Canterbury and
the All Blacks, and then coaching both Canterbury and the
All Blacks later in life. A remarkable man, someone who

(01:02:02):
was really larger than life in rugby and outside of rugby.

Speaker 12 (01:02:07):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
I played Paul with him and Timaru and they came
along to me and they said, you want to game
of pool with Gris Wiley? And I said why not?
And they said the only thing is you got to
pay doubles And I went what? And they said, you
got to play doubles because Griz doesn't play singles. And
I go, I go, why not? And he goes because

(01:02:28):
he doesn't want to lose. So if he loses you,
he blames someone else. You cannot you can you cannot
have the bragging rights that I beat Griswiley at Paul,
so we had to play doubles. Weird ruling.

Speaker 23 (01:02:40):
I remember, as a young man, when I was still
learning the art and craft of off field play, a
couple of social activities where there was no way you
were going to leave early when Gris Wiley was there.
You often feel that massive beer poor slap you on
the shoulder with another refreshment, and yet there was no

(01:03:03):
way you would head home early. But great great storytellerat yeah,
great great man and obviously a big loss for his family.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Do you know him, jose Cannaby news on rugby exactly.

Speaker 24 (01:03:15):
I knew him from watching his All Blacks teams, obviously
from Wellington, not christ Church. I was gutted when Wayne
smith scythed through and took the shield away from us
in eighty two to start that wonderful run. But the
teams that Griws coached in the late eighties I think
were some of the best All Blacks teams we've seen
off the back of that Rugby World Cup when he
took over from Subrian Lahure head coach eight eighty nine,

(01:03:39):
some of the best rugby I've ever seen. And I
think it was a bit of a shame really that
he was forced together with John Hart for the nineteen
ninety one Rugby World Cup. That was never a happy marriage.
But didn't have the opportunity to meet Griz in a
social setting as sav did very often and probably quite
a good thing by the sounds of it.

Speaker 23 (01:03:56):
George Foreman, Sav I might just respect just back Degres
that talking to a lot of his former players yesterday,
some of them just too upset to you know, to
talk on camera or talk and media, which is quite understandable.
All of them said he just had such a huge impact.

Speaker 12 (01:04:11):
On their lives.

Speaker 23 (01:04:13):
He changed their lives for ever in that Canterbury team.
It's nice and many have gone on to great things.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
It's a funny thing. I was taking a richer lae
about it earlier this morning and I was trying to
get across he was. He was one of those. I mean,
it's of an era where the public persona was not
who he was. Privately he was nice, but you know
what I mean, it was all gruff and publicly, but
privately it was a bit of that also, but equally
there was more to it than that. I always remember

(01:04:39):
Lorrie Mains. He used to be miserable in the media,
but privately was very nice, and then when he lost
his job as All Black coach, suddenly it's Lori Mains
is the nicest guy you've ever met, and you know, a.

Speaker 23 (01:04:51):
Heart of gold, big softy and also a lot of
people assumed he was just such a basic rugby coach
because of that nice ownA, But from what I found out,
used to say he was very innovative and and ahead
of his time in fact in rugby.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Coaching exactly and seventy since George Foreman, Jason two young,
seventy six. But the grill. I'll never forget the grill.

Speaker 24 (01:05:12):
No, or the fact that he came back to win
the world heavyweight title at the age of forty five,
you know, knocking out Michael Moore. I mean, we all remember,
you know, the Fraser fight when he knocked him down
six times in the first two rounds to become world champion,
rumbling the jungle of course. Goodness me, what a what
an iconic event. But then yeah, to then retire but

(01:05:35):
come back at forty five. But yeah, the grills and well,
we talked about gris being a big teddy bear off
the you know, off the rugby field.

Speaker 14 (01:05:43):
That's exactly what George Foreman was.

Speaker 24 (01:05:45):
Anyone I've read or listened to talk about him was
that he was just that way as well, just a.

Speaker 22 (01:05:50):
Very generous man with his time and his energy. And yeah,
I mean, but he could hit man. He could hit Fraser,
Ali Mora and many others. I think he had seventy
eight knockouts in eighty six fights. That is some hard punching,
not bad.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Do you think sad with Lawsons? You're twenty three years old,
You've got your big break, You've spent the summer in
New Zealand anticipating your big break. Your big break turns
to shite in two weekends, one in Melbourne, one in China,
And as far as I can work out, they'll give
him Japan. But unless he turns it round and something
miraculous happens, He's toast, isn't he.

Speaker 23 (01:06:46):
I'm just going to ask you how much more time
will they give him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
They'll give him Japan, would they give.

Speaker 12 (01:06:50):
Him more than that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
I mean, if they see something in Japan, it's not
a sprint weekend, so you get some good practice. And
if they see something in Japan but they see yesterday,
I mean the thing about that, You've got to understand
he didn't overtake anybody, I mean all the other I mean,
you look at the result, the result looks better than
it is. There's no speed there. He can't drive the car.
And unless he learns to do that all of a sudden.

Speaker 23 (01:07:14):
What do you take note of that? I did take
note of the end of all times down the left
hand side of the screen last night. And yeah, he
wasn't getting any closer to the guy in front of him. No,
which they brought him in two or three times, didn't
they for different tires. They keept changing the tires, changing.

Speaker 12 (01:07:26):
This and that.

Speaker 23 (01:07:27):
Is it a combination of clearly the clearly there was
an issue with the tires in China. What about the
lack of time and the cary if he drove racing
balls last year, but very very different car, very very
different set up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
But you can't make up to what you haven't got.
They can't go look, you know, go practice for six
weeks and come back and see us. It's that it's
too late.

Speaker 23 (01:07:46):
But some of the commentators were saying they should have
had him in an older car, which they're allowed to
absolutely over the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Grun Chanduck said that, and he's right, he's one hundred
percent right, But that's retrospective. They didn't and he hasn't,
and therefore it.

Speaker 12 (01:07:58):
Is what it is.

Speaker 23 (01:08:00):
You've got the tires, you got the set up, and
also the massive expectation that must surely be that pressure,
that expectation on her must be massive, is massive, and
it gets.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Worse because it's psychological can because it's all confidence. And
he knows he can do it because he did it
at Silverstone at the test got within two tenths of max.
So he can do it. But you know, do you
believe you can do it? And if you don't believe
you can do it, you won't, and if you don't,
you're out. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 23 (01:08:20):
How different would his car set up beat of a Stapens?
I think it would be quite different.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Yeah, but yeah, it's the same car though. I mean, yes,
you can stick in your nose and a new you know,
foil and stuff, but it's the same car. And so
if you don't like the car, or can't handle the car,
or the cars unpredictable, then that doesn't change it. You
can paint it purple and put a you know, you
put a banana seat on it if you want. It's
not going to go any different. It's still aridical isn't it.
And that's and that's your problem.

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
So I think you're right Mike with.

Speaker 24 (01:08:46):
I think you're right with they'll give them Japan, although
there's already talking about Yuki Sonoda being in the seat
for Japan.

Speaker 14 (01:08:51):
I mean that would be very.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Now, that'll be unfair.

Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
That'll be unfair, wouldn't it, wouldn't it?

Speaker 12 (01:08:56):
Yea?

Speaker 14 (01:08:56):
So look, but the pressure on the kid goodness doesn't.

Speaker 24 (01:09:00):
Need time in the car. It's a hard cut of driver.
It's not a great car. That's a step and could
only finish fourth last night. Look, I just think time
is running out and he doesn't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
No, And the problem is if they put Sonoda in
and he can't drive it, and then they'll put hajurin
and he can't try, then what have you achieved? Well, yeah, yeah,
you just boot through a whole lot of drivers for
no particular reason.

Speaker 23 (01:09:22):
It's not going to be described as the poison Chealics
is at number two to the step. And what would
happen if they put Sonoda in the red ball and
then Liam back into racing balls and Liam does better
than Soda.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Well that's the other thing. That's where that was where
it was worth before. If you remember when he was
at racing balls, he was out qualifying people. And you've
got to remember Snoda last night. For all the talk
of Sonoda, here was his car fell apart and he
didn't even you know, didn't get anywhere. So, I mean
it's it's a multi pronged problem. But from our point
of view, patriotic point of view, it's a great sadness
that somebody who promises so much is on the verge
unfortunately of imploding in a fairly sort of global public.

Speaker 23 (01:09:57):
Again, doesn't it prove the extra dream high tech nature
of these cards and also the massive global pressure on youngsters.
I mean a couple of those drivers are teenagers in
that field.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yeah, that that fortunately is the other problem Antonelli, but
they are and lower the are and lower cars well. Well,
Antonelli's in a Mercedes, I think. I think the Mercedes
is a good car, and Antonelli's driving it well. But
you look at Carlos Science, one of the best drivers
in the world. He's still getting to grips with us
Williams and that's a much easier car to drive than
anything he's driven before. So I mean, you know, he's

(01:10:30):
got excuses. It's just that the patience factor will run out. Unfortunately, Yes,
did anyone play the football Jason over the weekend? I
didn't see any of it.

Speaker 14 (01:10:40):
Where no ALEI got it International break mic because what
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
That's why Chris Wood was here and we were playing
some some island nation thinking it was a big deal
and we're going to the World Cup.

Speaker 14 (01:10:50):
Well yeah, the island nation, big Figi of course on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Well I mean come on, I mean this's this whole thing.
Of course we're going to beat Figi and then we'll
beat New Caledonia and then because there's eight hundred countries
going to the World Cup, of course we're going to
go to the World Cup. That's how it works, isn't.

Speaker 14 (01:11:04):
It, Mike.

Speaker 24 (01:11:05):
The path might be different, but the end reward is
the same. Yes, it's an expanded, bloated World Cup of
forty eight teams, but that's not New Zealand's fault. They
haven't made the rules they've been handed them. Ironically enough,
the All Whites of twenty twenty five probably would have
got through the old way. I think they're as good
at football team as I've seen play for us. Expecting
a big crowd there to night at Eden Park. I'll

(01:11:27):
be amongst the thirty five thousand.

Speaker 14 (01:11:29):
Will yes, I will be there. I know you probably
won't be, Mike. I hope tune in at some stage.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Are we well? Let me okay, listen in anticipation of
the victory tonight in our trip for the World Cup,
will we as a nation come to a grinding holt
when we draw three times and think we've done well?

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:11:44):
That, see that is now not sufficient for this group
of players.

Speaker 24 (01:11:48):
I think we'll grind to a halt when New Zealand
gets out of the group, gets into the knockout stages
and Chris Wood and Marco Staminich and many of the
others show on a world stage exactly what they're capable of.

Speaker 14 (01:11:59):
So you're right, draws aren't any good anymore. I know
you love your Draws.

Speaker 23 (01:12:05):
Cup next year and these footballers can't win, can they?
If it's one or it's a boring game according to hosting,
If it's ten mil.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
That's true, I'm hopelessly consistent. Now, Sam, I need you
to get onto the big story in the sporting world.
Are you do you know of Charlie Gallico? Charlie Gallico, right,
Charlie Gallico is eighty. He is Reggie the Rabbit. So
he's a mascot for the NRL team. Right now, do
you know the problem with Reggie the Rabbit.

Speaker 23 (01:12:33):
What's the problem with Reggie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Reggie the Rabbit is on social media having punched a
nine year old, so an investigation has been launched. Reggie
the Rabbit went rogue. So I need you to be
onto that tonight. Please.

Speaker 14 (01:12:45):
Was it his own grand kit? He would have had
a lot of kids.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
From the From the footage I've looked at this morning,
the kid was giving him a bit of lip and Charlie,
being eighty dressed as Reggie, wasn't having any of it.
So he gave the kid a clip, and of course
you can't do that as a mess.

Speaker 23 (01:13:02):
I'll look into that. I tell you what I saw yesterday,
some wonderful vision of Grizz Right that eighty five game
Aukan Canterbury Lancaster part We had a camera on the
sideline following Grizz and he had to make his way
through the crab. Remember they were down about twenty nine halftime,
and he came on and gave him this rousing half
time speech. He had to wind his way through all
these people who'd gathered on the sideline base and it
was out of control, and some guys said something to

(01:13:24):
as he walked past, Grizz turned and.

Speaker 14 (01:13:26):
Gave him a bit of a slap.

Speaker 23 (01:13:27):
This guy then swung a punch at Grizzys.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
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Would they swap Lawsom back to sonodus k Yes, he'd
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they swap it out though, well one put them back
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then we'll cross the Tasman we catch up with our
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Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
The breakfast show Kiwi's trust to stay in the know.
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa designed
to intrigue and use togs that'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
From Sinlay this morning. Our ongoing fascination with the dairy industry.
It's not just Fonterra in the game, of course, sin
Lay or another player. Ebert dah was up two hundred
and seventeen percent, Net debts down twenty nine percent, revenues
up sixteen percent. Profit is up ninety nine percent to
eighty seven million dollars. There forecasting once you added all
together for the farmer as a farm milkgate farm gate

(01:15:35):
price of ten dollars and forty eight cents. And interestingly,
they say in the report only a minimal number of
farmers have confirmed their exercising their option to leave Sinlay
for an alternative processor. So that was that was a
sort of a bubbling issue for a period of time.
So we might have a really good turnaround story there,
which is good. Twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
We go see plast good morning, good ay, that whole time.
What have we got this morning?

Speaker 12 (01:16:05):
Well, newspollows out, but what they've done is they've gone
back over newspot tracking from the beginning of the year
too now and they've gone state by state and they've
looked at age demographics and for most both the major
parties it's not particularly good news because Labor has seen
a seven percent drop in support from females. Now what

(01:16:28):
we put this down to, well, no one's quite sure.
Peter Dutton's all always polled badly with younger women, but
it would appear that the old teal factor may be
about to kick him again. You might remember some key
Liberal seats were lost off the back of Scott Morrison
being a bully, while we're now talking about whether Anthony

(01:16:49):
Albanezi can get women to trust him. And the polo
is very interesting state by state because it shows and
you and I've talked about this a lot, not surprisingly
did Victoria ends have a real anti labor mood about
them at the moment, and they're going to blame the
federal government for what the state government has done to Victoria.

(01:17:10):
So that's not good news for Antony Albneasy. He's got
to hang onto seats here and there are some predictions
he could lose up to eight and like the prediction
I know, I kept giving you predictions about elections but
you can probably go to the bank with the fact
that the PM will go and see the Governor General
on the weekend coming up after the budgets delivered tomorrow night,
and we'll have either a Mail three or May ten.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Election, given that you've had surpluses and tomorrow night's going
to be a gargantuan deficit. And also despite the gargantuan deficit,
they're going to be handing out cost of living entitlements,
so free money for the election. Do people just go cool,
I'll have the money, thanks, or does somebody somewhere go
we can't afford this, and why are you running the
economy this way?

Speaker 12 (01:17:52):
Well the media, the media run that line, but I'm
firmly of the view that the punt of the voter
is not much about deficits anymore. I was speaking to
a leading economist on the weekend who said that this
is one of the fundamental changes in the debate industrata
about finances. We're now going to have deficits. It would
appear that will run up to twenty thirty five, twenty

(01:18:15):
thirty four, so ten years into the distance. And the
Treasurer himself on Sky yesterday said that we're on track
for years of deficit that remains to be seen when
the budget will go back into surplus. So even he
is admitting it, and if you have a treasurer from
either of the major parties just simply saying, well, you know,
we're going to have deficits as far as I can see.

(01:18:36):
And then clearly they're polling. Their internal polling is telling
them that the voters don't care much.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
How are they going to sell I knowe I was
reading yesterday Albaneze is going to pitch this work from
home as a cost of living thing, so you know,
I'll try and help you and you can save all
that money on transportation costs and stuff like that. How
does that dubtail with what I'm assuming is business trying
to get people back into the office.

Speaker 12 (01:18:59):
Not only business but also state governments have made it
very clear. I mean Queensland, off the fact of the
Liberal National Party win there, I've told people you've got
to go back to work, community, You've got no excuses anymore.
We want you in the office. And that mood is
also pretty much the same in New South Wales and
South Australia, who are too labor states. So I'm not

(01:19:19):
quite sure what Albanez he's doing or what he's doing
is politicking and electioneering, and it's all going to be
about I'll give you more money and make your life
a bit simpler. I mean, we had the leak and
the weekend papers about the gap the electricity the energy
price rebate from the federal government's going to continue and
kick on until the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
But don't people, I just don't get it. I mean
it's like, hey, I know your power bill and for
a start, they promised it would be you'd be saving
tenn ord seventy five dollars. You're not saving anything like that,
and so they're handing out money they don't have to you.
But do people not work out the government can't pay
your power bill. When the government pays your power bill,
there is something wrong with the system.

Speaker 12 (01:19:59):
Yeah, it's just give back your money. I mean, we're
a very highly taxed nation and they're just using those
taxes to bribe people to vote for them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Will at work?

Speaker 12 (01:20:06):
It might? It certainly means the election is going to
be very close. You had Senator Gallagher yesterday, Katie Gallagher,
the Finance Minster bragging about how they're going to save
seven hundred and twenty million not spending it on consultants.
My question there would be, well, why were you doing
that in the first place?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Exactly? Is it true to say? I also read yesterday
the suggestion. In fact, it was more than one suggestion.
Dunton's gone off the boil he's had. He was on
a roll and now it's gone a bit sour. Is
that fair or not?

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
That is fair?

Speaker 12 (01:20:36):
But we haven't started the election. He interestingly, will on
a Thursday have a budget replying, a budget in reply
speech to deliver to federal Parliament after Charmers delivers the
budget tomorrow night. And he has made it very clear
today that he will have a major announcement in that
budget in reply speech. What does that mean? Probably means

(01:20:58):
that he's going to spend as much money as labors,
but he is going to have a major piece of
economic policy to announce on Thursday, after being criticized for not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Having one outside of nuclear. It seems to me that
the coalition go, oh, yeah, we'll do that too. Is
there a lot of that going on? And if there's
a lot of that going on, why would you vote
for somebody else? Have been not different, very good question.

Speaker 12 (01:21:19):
It particularly applies to health and education, which are the
strong points for labor. And we saw Peter Dutton immediately
put his hand up and said we'll spend that too.
When Albanize made a major announcement about three point five
or six billion dollars and Peter Dutton came out and said, well,
not only match that.

Speaker 11 (01:21:36):
Will spend five hundred million more.

Speaker 12 (01:21:38):
So you're only going to change your vote. And that's
what changes governments if you are annoyed at the way
the last three years have been for you personally, either
in business or as an individual taxpayer. And the mood
is around in some states that that is exactly what
people are doing. Will it hold until May three or ten,

(01:21:58):
We'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
How about Oscar Ray, He's the real.

Speaker 20 (01:22:01):
Fantastic Yeah he is.

Speaker 12 (01:22:03):
I mean, I feel sorry very much for your boy, Liam.
I think he's copying it really poorly from the media
and from some within the Formula One circus who seemed
intent on talking the kid down. I don't know why
Oscar You know, he came. He was on pole first
time that he has been a pulse at He just

(01:22:23):
took off. They tried to get in on the start,
he just drove the perfect race and there was a
great quote for him across the weekend when he set
the fastest time to take Paul. He said that was
the hippin of my life. And given how quick these
quotes drive, it must have been a hell of a
corner for him.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Fantastic. Go well, how's your shoulder mate becoming right? You're
swinging the clubs, you're practicing in the garage.

Speaker 20 (01:22:44):
Yet please don't bring it up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
See Wednesday see price out of Australia for us this
morning at is sixteen minutes away from nine Osky. Like
I remember Griss Wiley turning up for drink at my wedding.
His wife was the venue director and he came and
had a drink with a group for twenty five year olds.
Was awesome, very nice man. Morning. Mike had the pleasure
of Grizz's company a few years ago as a domestic
air news Hillen captain. We invited him up front a
flight from Queenstown to christ Church. We didn't talk rugby,

(01:23:09):
which I believe he appreciated, but instead we answered as
many invaried questions about the aircraft and the flight. An
absolute gentleman and a memory old treasure. There you go
eight forty.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
King will be very happy. As in Charles. He and
Camilla are off to a state visit in Italy, which
works out well because there was some concern that the
Pope wouldn't be there and they're basically going to see
the Pope. Specifically, it's the early part of April, symbolic
building of the links between the Roman Catholics and the
Church of England. Of course he will attend the king
an ecumenical in the Sistine Chapel and historic first. He's

(01:23:50):
also going to visit the papal Basilica of Saint Paul's
outside the Walls. Coincides with the King and Queen's twentieth
wedding anniversary. Said it's nice, good place to go at
you're into that sort of thing. As warm up. King
hosted a dinner at High Grove. Didn't know this, but
the menu was inspired by Stanley Tucci, so that's nice.
He's going to meet the President of Italy. He's going

(01:24:11):
to meet the Prime Minister to become the first UK
Monich to address both houses of the Italian Parliament must
talk to Joe about this. This week there's a state banquet,
isn't there always joint fly past over Rome by the
Italian Air Force in the UK's Red Arrow. So that's
quite the trip and the Pope looks like he'll be
set to see it, which is fantastic. The other thing
I must ask Christopher Luxem when he's on the program

(01:24:32):
tomorrow is once again Wayne Brown, who's the mayor of Auckland.
And I don't want to boy you with an Auckland story,
but it's got this tourism thing, and he's been big
on this. He claims he's got promises from people in
China that the Chinese airlines that they're going to launch
routes through Auckland to South America and that Chinese goods

(01:24:53):
are going to be shipped through bonded warehouses here. If
only we could get our act together with the China. Now,
the problem with the moment is, and of course this
goes back to the tourism story over and over again.
They're not back the way they used to. Part of
the problems the Chinese aren't coming here, and part of
the reason is that the Chinese aren't coming here the
way they used to is they've got to fill out
these visa forms. It's difficult to fill out visas. Why

(01:25:14):
wouldn't you go to a country where you don't have
to fill out of visa and bypass New Zealand, which
they're doing so Wayan Brown is arguing we need visa
free travel now. I tried a couple of bite and
what would have been a month or so ago. I
talked to Erica Stamford and the Prime Minister about it,
and they were very in that kind of What they
wanted to say was we don't trust the Chinese, hence
they need visas, but they couldn't say that. But in

(01:25:37):
not saying that and not being forthcoming about it, you're
really saying it by default, aren't you. I mean, when
you say that, you know there are some countries that
are visa free in other countries that aren't. In China's
one of them, you're essentially saying we don't trust the Chinese. Anyway,
as Wayne Brown so eloquently put it over the weekend,
that's CIA bullshit. So I mean, you can't argue with that.

Speaker 17 (01:25:54):
That's why people have ever the diplomat exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
That's why people love Wayne Brown. That is CIA just
get rid of the visas, get them into the country,
and once they come into the country, suddenly you're going
to have a whole bunch of airlines flying through walcome
to South America. You're going to have a whole other
of Chinese goods coming through the country, and you're going
to see untold fortune and wealth coming to this particular
part of the world. So anyway, I'll raise that with
the Prime Minisaur again tomorrow nine away from nine, the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Mic Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement, communities news, togs Head,
be a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Of things I should mention the Sudanese Army if you
missed it over the weekend of recapture, the Presidential Palace.
Is that material tis sort of that particular war and
that particular part of the world has been going on
since April of twenty three, so it's coming up to
two years old. Twelve million people have been forced from
their homes, millions more faced famine. Is it over?

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Is it close to being over? No, They've got the
presidential palace. I suppose that's something. Indonesian law has been
changed over the weekend as well, very Sahato well Subianto.
Basically it allows the military more power, a bigger role
in government, the fearers. It could return Indonesia to Sahato's day.

(01:27:04):
So the current bloke Subianto, former special forces commander and
Sahartu's son in law. Of course, allows military officers to
take up positions in government without first retiring or resigning
from armed forces. So people worried about that's not to
worried about when run the world at the mome is
complicated or place at the moment five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Now tell you what of all the elections, this one
could be. This could be the one to watch because
Carney this morning if you've missed it. Mark Carney, who
was once the head of the Bank of Canada, but
more famously the head of the Bank of England before
he went back to Canada and went, oh, I think
I might like to run this place currently prime minister
because Trudeau turned out to be useless of course, and
then quit and he got given the job the other

(01:27:49):
day and then sworn at as prime minister. Anyways, called
the election date for April twenty eight, And as part
of the campaign, he's got a video and it's at
a nice hockey rink and he's linked up with a
well known fate as part of his plage. And this
is why he may will actually make this contest. It's
called take on Trump. Mister Prime Minister, Mike Myers, what
are you doing here?

Speaker 14 (01:28:09):
I just thought i'd come up and check on things.

Speaker 17 (01:28:12):
You live in the States, Yeah, but I'll always be Canadian,
but you live in the States.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
Yeah. So do you remember mister dress Up, the children's
show on CBC. What were the names of Mister dress
Up's two puppet friends, Casey and Finnegan?

Speaker 5 (01:28:28):
Bud uh Spud?

Speaker 24 (01:28:29):
Howie Meeker Capitalist Saskatchewan, Regina, tragically Pitt.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
You're a defenseman defending a two on one?

Speaker 14 (01:28:35):
What do you do take away the pass?

Speaker 4 (01:28:36):
Obviously?

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
What are the two seasons in Toronto?

Speaker 17 (01:28:38):
Winter and construction?

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
We really are Canadian?

Speaker 17 (01:28:42):
Yeah, but let me ask you, mister Prime minister. Will
there always be a Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
There will always be a Canada, all right? Elbows out,
elbows up. Connie's good. He's a natural, isn't he. In
delivering the script, most politicians couldn't deliver it. Well, who's
very clever. Myers, by the way, is playing Elon Musk
on SNL. He's also wearing an ice hockey shirt with
the last name Never on the back. The number is

(01:29:09):
fifty one, never fifty one. Get it, state governor. So
here's the right. The problem was up until this point
of the reason Trudeau quite if you hadn't followed all
of this, is they were being thrashed and they will
probably lose because they've been in power for ten years.
People are second tired of them. During COVID, he went
and sort of chanced his arm and did the whole hey,
I've looked after you. Well in COVID, do you want

(01:29:30):
to re elect me in a majority government because it
was a minority and they said no thanks, and so
he stayed on as a minority. So the Conservatives have
been ahead by as much as twenty points. Post Trump
and the tariffs and the governor and the fifty first
state thing, suddenly the government are back and there's a
race on and it's a tight race and this guy
Carney looks the goods. So we'll see how that goes.

(01:29:53):
What was once a fall on conclusion now is not
anyway back. Tomorrow morning from six Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
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