Full Show Podcast: 24 October 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
And welcome today, Sir Brian Rochean, We're too now justin
Marshall on the Holland depart to Joe Parker, head of
a big fight in London. Tim Occady do the week,
of course, Richard Arnold's Outside Murray olds in from a
record breakingly hot Sydney pasking early morning, seven past six,
So heit of the long weekend, Let's give the Labour
Party a report caunt, shall we? For their policy week?
Will be one of the few report cards this week

(00:33):
because we actually turned up to work, so overall a
C minus for presentation. They had two years to organize this,
to make a splash, to grab the headlines and run
with them. Policy one didn't have any detail, so it
was just a thought bubble. Policy two was forgotten about
or sneakily given to a magazine ahead of time, or
a combo of both. And three that was fine, but
it was just an extension of an already existing idea,

(00:54):
and the problem with the existing ideas the existing idea
isn't used or needed. So let's have a drone type viewer.
The themes we have here, it's a lot of overarching
government control. A government picking winners on the Future Fund,
the government telling doctors how much they can charge in
some freebies for gaming. Now that's left wing politics, and
some people like that, and that's fine. That's democracy. That's
why we have elections. So b for the theme, specifically

(01:18):
the Future Fund C because at no point can they
escape the fact that whatever they give to the fund,
it won't go to debt repayment. And given we've got
less than no money, that must be a priority. And
that's before you get to the bit where the world
is a wash with money anyway. For ideas are the
GPS Committee D D for dumb and dunce and fail
telling already struggling GPS what the cannon can't charge is

(01:38):
a recipe for frustration, anger and resignation. It's got administrative
cluster written all over it. Are the gaming subsidies B
minus because it's already running. But here's the clue. Gaming
is booming. Is it booming because of the subsidies? No,
other subsidies aren't used. They set aside one hundred and
sixty million bucks, less than half have been applied for.
It's a classic government looking to give away money, can't

(02:00):
even give it away. But the truth is as artificial
as it all is. Governments do offer tax deals on
gaming and film, so you've got to compete. So the
three this was the best idea of the week, and
by quite so mugin. So overall, you think about it
this way. If this is them, if this is the
sharp and ready to rock and roll alternative to run
this country, either they need to majorly sharpen up, or

(02:22):
if you're looking at this week in your game, man
that Hipkins, he is one slick operator. Well, I'll see
you at the airport.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
News of the world.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
In ninety second, major scandals unfolded over night. Aspis busted,
an NBA betting mafia, poker crimering involving current players and coaches.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud
and theft and robbery across a multi year investigation.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
The chargers and.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
The arrest that were taken down across this country range
from wire fraud, money laundering, extortion, robbery, illegal gambling.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Got some big names involved.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
They relied on corrupt individuals, including Jones and Rosier, and
in at least one instance, they got their information by
threatening a current player porter because of his pre existing
gambling debts.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
My sense of this is hard to underestimate just how
or ibsite, just how big a deal this is are
as Richard Andel with more shortly meantime couple of meetings,
one between the Pipe and the King, well God makes
speed to save us.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
From and.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
One involving yet again the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
If RA is ready to speak, We're ready to speak.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
This is the plan between us. The plan begins from cisfire.
The plan begins even not with cis far. The plan
begins with will to sit and speak.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
If you thought yesterday's plack oud wiving was unique to us,
wrong a resident doctors, they're out in the UK for
five days.

Speaker 9 (03:53):
In the end, this you know, primarily affects kind of
our patients, delay some of their access to healthcare and treatment.
So now my initial reaction is real disappointment.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And an Ireland a court looking into the shootings on
that fateful day back in nineteen seventy two has found
although people died and the military lost controlled he camped
in it on a single soldier, so he was found
not guilty. The family's not happy.

Speaker 10 (04:18):
The primize for me with a Frettish steat.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well there are you see.

Speaker 11 (04:24):
Who fair too fast to get the murders and bloodies
only properly for indeed at all.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Finally cool job, wealthy foreign family. They're in Britain. They're
looking for a tutor for their one year old. They
want them to become a quote English gentleman destined for
Eton or Harrow, the andrex is. They're looking for a
quintessentially British environment. Little Tarquin I made up his name.
I'm sure he's called Tark. Little Tarquin would also be
taught wholow and classical music. The tutor would take him
to Lords and Wimbledon when they're older. The issue is

(04:51):
the family's got form on this. They gave it a
crack for the other kid when they were five, but
there was a bit late they decided. So they've had
over one hundred and twenty applicants. By the way, four
hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. News of the World in
nineteen You want some Central Bank news? Why not unchanged
two point five percent? Where's this career. They've still a
three hundred and fifty billion dollar trade deal with Washington,

(05:12):
and so that's proving a little bit uncertain. They've also
got some property issues there. So anyway, they're sitting at
two and a half percent and officially, and I'm sure
Richard will touch on this as well. Second longest shutdown
in history. They had a crack yesterday, twelfth time at
a vote. It's still failed. What was the longest you asked? Well,
that was under Trump as well, back in twenty eighteen,

(05:33):
twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
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Speaker 2 (05:41):
Talksp how's that peace still going? Answer? Not Well, the
Israeli government, the parliament has voted that they might like
to look at annexing the West Bank, at which point
Marker Rubio goes, guys, that's not really part of the plan.
Fifteen past six. I'm sure and part Andrew Callahoer good morning.

(06:02):
I like you, scaleer up. I mean good news. I
mean it's got to be good news, isn't it. When
you're making gun boots and farming, you can't go wrong
at the moment, Ken you there's an.

Speaker 12 (06:10):
Element of that there yet it's been a busy week
for markets, but you know, golds all over the place,
the oil price unfortunately all over the pros overnight as well.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
But one thing that's not going away is tariffs.

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Now.

Speaker 12 (06:20):
The level of sort of interest and attention waxes and ways,
but they haven't gone away. And Scaleer Up local listed
company we're all familiar with and one of the New
Zealand companies that was directly impacted by the introduction of
tariffs now yesterday they issued an interidec's announcement ahead of
their annual shareholders meeting which was yesterday and provided guidance.

Speaker 6 (06:41):
On the twenty twenty six year.

Speaker 12 (06:43):
Now make these annual shareholder meetings that they're primarily to
present the previous year's outcomes. We'll always like to hear
any comments on the outlook. How has the new year started?
And for Scaler Up, the twenty six financial year has,
in their.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Words started well. Don't you like it when in and
our starts like that? It started well.

Speaker 12 (07:02):
So the first quarter Q one earnings ten percent ahead
of the previous comparable period, which sounds pretty good. Demand
across the range of applications their products are used for
has been robust another great word we like to hear
in company announcements. Dairy industry mentioned as being a notable
contributor to growth. Then they made some comments on tariffs,
and this is where you really need to start to listen,
because they're dealing with the fallout of tarifts in a

(07:24):
very real sense because they manufacture in China and they
have reasonable revenue exposure to the US as well now
they sell stuff there. They say that forecasting their future
results is now more difficult because of the ever changing
tariff regime and very relative.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
Of course, if you.

Speaker 12 (07:40):
Think about the volatility of the relationship between the US
and China, tariffs and knows just whacked another one hundred
percent on there. Look, they reacted quite quickly when tarifts
are introduced. They're now saying that they may have to
consider manufacturer in the US to meet US demand and
sort of I suppose, sort of stepping beyond that.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
For this discussion.

Speaker 12 (08:01):
Highlights the difficulties being faced by manufacturers in trying to
decide how do you commit to all this stuff you know?
And do you commit to it and then have the
rules change so it just it creates enormous problems anyway,
scale up's doing reasonably well in their share price holding
up quite well, So good news.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
What all we make of Tesla given that subsidy expired
in that particular quarter.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Well, I think it flattered their results.

Speaker 12 (08:25):
But I mean, we haven't talked about Tesla and elon
muskerw have we still seen plenty of tennis on the road?

Speaker 6 (08:30):
He although you get a few byds and other things there.

Speaker 12 (08:33):
Now, what I will say, Mike is these magnificent seven
company results are important. I think we can say that
in some places the US market, the US share market
is sort of quite fully priced. So these megacap companies,
they need to deliver on expectations, and you can see
what happens when they miss. I mean, look at Netflix
down to eleven percent in the last two sessions. Tesla

(08:55):
reported after trading had closed yesterday net income, so the
net income fell thirty seven percent, but their vehicle sales
did improve. Now, just in the background, Mic, we've got
all of this ahead of this big vote in November.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Musk's pay package.

Speaker 12 (09:10):
Which is outlandish, incredible find and adjective that works here.
Apparently over time he could be paid more than one
trillion dollars. He talked about that, and this is when
it just gets all kind of weird. He said, it's
important in securing his control of the company as it
expands into automation AI humanoid robots, but he doesn't want

(09:33):
he doesn't want to be ousted once he has built
the robot army.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
I mean, what, you know, what planet on you.

Speaker 12 (09:44):
They're planning to take the safety drivers out of the
robotaxis in Austin by the end of the year. They've
got this cyber cab, you know, this two seater autonomous
cave that's going to be scheduled for production in the
second quarter of next year. I can't talk about that
without thinking about Johnny. You remember Johnny the taxi driver
and total recall.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
Yes you may not.

Speaker 12 (10:03):
Yeah, that's it's always in my head when he talks
about these things. Anyway, They had record revenue of twenty
eight billion in the third quarter, twelve cent growth in
the last year. But yes, Mike, these ev credits they're
expiring on the thirtieth September, so you get a rush
on sales. They are also lifting their spending on R
and D, but there's a drop in revenue from carbon credits.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
The share price is actually held up pretty well.

Speaker 12 (10:24):
But one thing you're never short of with Tesla is
stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's true, it is true. What are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (10:30):
By the way, the Dow Jones US markets holding up
reasonably well. Day twenty three of the shutdown, as you've said,
second longest in US thirty five days was the longest one.
The bets are that we're going to get close to
that now. The Dow Jones up one hundred and eight points,
just about quarter percent, forty six thousand, six hundred and
ninety nine, the S and P five hundred up over

(10:51):
half a percent thirty eight points, six seven three seven,
the mark there and the NASDAK up point eight two percent,
one hundred and eighty five points, twenty two thousand, nine
hundred and twenty five Forts one hundred up two thirsy
percent nine five seven eight. The NICKA fell one point
three five percent forty eight thousand, sixty four one. Shangha
comps it up nine three nine two two. The OSSI's

(11:15):
gained three points yes day nine oh three two, and
we gained just over half percent yesterday on the nz
NEX fifty thirteen thousand, three hundred and seventy seven Kiwi
dollar is a bit stronger point five seven four eight
against the US, point eight eight twenty seven ossie, point
four nine five one against the euro, point four three
one seven against the pound. Eighty seven point seven eight

(11:35):
Japanese end gold four thousand, one hundred and thirty three
dollars and Brent Crude, Yeah, we don't want to hear this.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Sixty six dollars and seventeen just like that.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Thanks, Donald, You're a champion. Love you like a brother.
See your Tuesday. Andrew kelliher Shaw and Partner's Task a
t thousand in America, just thought I'll give you this
just by way of reference, inventory is up fourteen percent.
Medium price of a home in America is now four
fifteen two hundred and it's up two point one percent
year on year. The prices and your thirty year fixed
currently sits at six point one seven year mortgage six

(12:08):
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's a bit disciplined in Donald yesterday is at the
service station, and you know, you get used to prices
and I don't know why you get used to prices,
but you do even though you're being ripped off. And
I'm used to paying just a smash below three dollars
aleater for petrol years laugh at me and all that stuff,
and nevertheless that's what I do. Anyway. Used it was
two sixty three, and I thought, man, that's actually quite good.
That's the lowest I pay for a very long time.
But I knew that Donald had moved on Russia. So

(12:40):
next time I go back, it little bit different. Six
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Now we heard the final debate for the New York
mayoralty last night is actually worth watching. Mendami Cuomo Sliwa.
Latest poll released just an hour and a half ago
by THEARP New York is Mindami forty three, Kawima twenty
eight caught, twenty nine actually, and sli were nineteen eight
point four percent undecided. The good news for MNDAMI considering

(13:09):
the consensus around the bait with the bate, no and
move the needle.

Speaker 13 (13:12):
You've never accomplished anything. There's no reason to believe you
have any merit or qualification. For eight and a half
million lives. You don't know how to run a government.
You don't know how to handle an emergency.

Speaker 14 (13:25):
Always a pleasure to hear Andrew Cuomo create his own
facts at every debate stage. We just had a former
governor say in his own words that the city has
been getting screwed by the state.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Who was leading the state?

Speaker 10 (13:38):
It was you, governor leading the state.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Governor Ulke screwing this.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
You come, Slater, the un.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
These things.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
See what I mean. We're in New York. Sliva did
his best. Remember his lines.

Speaker 15 (13:54):
I heard the both of them again, fighting like kids
in the schoolyard. Jor On your resume could fit on
a cocktail napkin, and Andrew your failures could fill a
public school library in New York City.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
So New York anyway. The head to head part of
the poll is interesting. This is why so many people
want Sleewer out. Mandarmi v. Quomo. Mandarmi only leads forty
four to forty, which is within the margin of era,
and in that scenario fifteen percent are actually undecided in
the group. The bulk of the group undecided of the
fifty pluses, and the fifty pluses are reliable in terms
of people who will turn out and vote. So that's

(14:31):
what makes it interesting. I think it's a foregone conclusion
and I think Mondami is gonna win, but early voting
starts this Sunday. The election day itself is this Tuesday
week A little bit of spot on the program for
you this morning, because we know long weekend, all that
sort of stuff. It's what we like to do. Justin Marshall,
Jason Holland, I'll ask obviously Justin whether you know, well,
not just the Canterbury NPC thing, but how much Canterby

(14:54):
are going to win by for the final over of
the weekend. Joe Parker, He's going to be joining us
from London as well. Still to come on the mic Hosking.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
I'm not surprised about the mafia involvement. I'm not surprised
about but current players and current coaches in the NBA
with this FBI sting this morning seems extraordinary to me.
Richard Arnolmore shortly twenty three minutes away from seven back
here having dealt with the Alliance dal Nick fight. This week,
Nick's cab off the old agricultural rankers, of course, are
the brand sale per Fonterra got a new report from

(15:35):
ASB estimates the deal could unlock four and a half
billion in additional spending. The clone effects everywhere from manufacturing
to retail to real estate. Average farmer return could hit
three hundred and ninety two thousand. Nick Toughley, asb's chief economist,
is back. Well this Nick morning to you. Come on,
is this an economy mover?

Speaker 11 (15:53):
Look, it's certainly going to help. When you ed up
and look at the how that spending could slow through
and stimulate spending and thencome another sector and so on.
You're talking about one percent of GDP over a period
of time. I think the caveat is that the impact
gets a lot more focus in sectors that are a
bit more adjacent to where farmers normally spend their money.

(16:14):
So we still think the Reserve Bank will need to
cut rates a little bit further just to help with
that sort of broader economical cabulary. But hey, this certainly
is going to help.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
What's your vibe around the debt V spend. In other words,
how many paying down debt version will go out there
and have a party.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
But we're roughly estimating it will be somewhere around like
fifty to fifty in the sense that you will see
a reasonable amount of debt retirement and savings built up.
But you then also see on farm investments. You'll see
that a personal spending by farmers, and you may see
some farmers that you know, particularly ones that have been
looking at retirement, moving off off farm and taking those

(16:51):
windfalls elsewhere as well.

Speaker 16 (16:53):
So roffle effects through.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I can't I mean, I don't know whether you can
draw comparisons. I mean I always saw the Alliance deal
going ahead because they were they were in a corner
and they were stuck. It's not the same with Fonterra.
But I equally see the deal going ahead. You don't
turn down four hundred thousand dollars, do well.

Speaker 11 (17:07):
We'll certainly be up to the farmers to decide what
they're going to support, support it or not. We've got
the votes coming through next week, and of course it
does need regulatory permission to go ahead as well.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
That wouldn't be a problem, would it, Or what.

Speaker 11 (17:23):
I don't really see any particular reasons not to, but
I'm it's not in the marior that I'm really that
much of an expert. But when you're looking, when you've
see independent reports of the offer price, you know that
have been done for the sort of farmers shareholders, that
sort of suggests it's a pretty generous offer.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
In reading the spread, so three ninety two is the average,
but there's sixty percent is it two or three hundred
thousand dollars up? I think I've written that down wrong,
But anyway, the point is, is the spread of the
payout of itselves broad enough to make a genuine economic
impact or a handful of people getting a shedloaded dough.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
We did some calculations that suggests that you've probably got
sort of upwards of sixty percent of farmers will get
sort of at least two hundred thousand dollars cash wind form.
So that's a fair chunk, and that's pretty significantly. You're
starting to talk about a decent LOTO win amount coming
through there. So in terms of you know, fairly big decisions, Okay,

(18:19):
this is a good time to put some money onto
the farm and invest in productivity or placing the milkshead,
it's potential to have that sort of profound decision making impact.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Just going back to the export numbers that we got
a week, all this week, whenever it was, I can't
remember how much actual lifting of the economy is dairy doing.

Speaker 11 (18:40):
Look, it's basically the number one still, so it's our
very important export industry. We're still seeing the value of
our dairy exports go up. And also we're still relatively
resilient with our exports to the US as well, which
is one reasonable market for us too. So look, this
is where a fair chunk of money just scary that

(19:01):
meat as well and our fruit, we get a lot
of revenue that salters through into the economy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, a good long weekend. Appreciate your expertise as always.
Nick Tuffley, out of the ASP this morning writer the
FBI sting It's big news more shortly nineteen two.

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one covers Africa like I do. Tanzania About to vote
They've just arrested a bloke, So I'll tell you about
that in the moment and stand by for the update
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And Donald Morning did what he make? It's sort of
come out of nowhere.

Speaker 18 (20:48):
Well, they've been looking at this for four years, so
yes and no at the boss of the FBI Cash
Hotel now is calling the scale of this scandal mind bogging.
It involves some top names from the world of basketball
as you've been hearing, and the mafia in More than
thirty people have been arrested, including current and former players
with the NBA, along with the coach of the Portland Trailblazers,
Chauncey Billup. The teams associated with this at least at

(21:12):
some distance include the Los Angeles Lakers, the Charlotte Hornets,
and the Trailblazers. It also includes four of the five
New York City mafia families again Beino, Banano, Mukasey and
Genevesei crime families. Bettel saying this involves sports bidding and
rig poker games he says, it involves a staggering amount
of money.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
We're talking about tens of millions of dollars in fraud
and theft and robbery across a multi year investigation.

Speaker 18 (21:39):
You know, there's so much money involved in sports anyway,
which I think is the point you were hinting out
a little bit earlier. But US attorney Joseph Ncella is saying.

Speaker 19 (21:49):
Your winning streak has ended, your luck has run out.
Violating the law is a losing proposition, and you can bet.

Speaker 18 (21:58):
On that well grown worthy, he puns. Aside. One of
those charis is current Miami heats player Terry Rosier, who
is said to have left a game early while letting
other gamblers know so they could better on the thing
and make hundreds of thousands of bucks they legitly split
with him. The rig poker games were set up by
the mafia families who would take a cut and then
use force to go after debtors in the usual mafioso manner.

(22:19):
The NBA actually investigated Rogier a couple of years back
and found nothing. Not a not a very effective investigation,
was it. John tay Porter for the Toronto Raptors, also
was alleged to have manipulated his availability to allow ne
co conspirators to win bets on them. So what does
this say about the credibility of NBA games? It raises
essential questions other games trustworthy? Are they a fraud? There

(22:42):
are big names who are being caught up in this,
at least at the distance. Damon Jones, a former player
with the Cleveland Cavaliers, was a friend of Lebron Jameson
back in twenty three. It is charged that he shared
non public information with gamblers in the game that took
place right after Lebron set the league's all time scoring record.
Lebron planned to sit out the next game because of
anglesawners and is said to have been unaware the Jones

(23:03):
shared that information about his playing status. Meantime, this was
a pretty sophisticated operation. The FED say the gamblers launded
their profits through the use of multiple shell companies and
through crypto transfers. So those are some of the accusations
as the NBA, I guess has left with that credibility problem.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, we'll see where it goes. So I'm playing more
from a gas obviously, so does it work these sanctions?

Speaker 18 (23:26):
Denot the Kiev is welcoming the new Trump sanctions on
Russian oil, which is at the heart of the your
price questions, and the criminal is responding with seeming outrage.
Former President in Russia dmitriy Medvedev's saying the social media
post that the Trump team has quote fully taken up
the path of war with Russia. And beyond all that
is the question that you raise whether any of this
is going to make much of a difference with the

(23:48):
Russian war in Ukraine, oil and gas sales account for
about one quarter of the Russian budget. The two companies
the US is targeting now are Rosneft and Luke Oil,
which supply about half of their crude oil exports. But
when the i Hadn't team put in place similar sanctions
against two other Russian oil companies back in January, it
had little impact because of lax enforcement.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Trump says, look, these are tremendous sanctions.

Speaker 19 (24:10):
These are very big against their two big oil companies,
and we hope that they won't be on for long.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
We hope that the war will be saddled.

Speaker 18 (24:18):
And hold your breath. Putin the search this will not
have much effect. Russia has taken to using old tankers
uninsured by Western companies or by using third countries to
funnel supplies. Of course, Ukraine has been seeking those Tomahawk
cruise missiles that could target areas deep inside Russia, and
Trump seems somewhat open to that, at least in his
rhetorical remarks, but then backed away after another phone chat

(24:40):
with Vladimir. So there are a lot of moves in
this war business.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So yeah, next week, Richard appreciated very much. See, I
was watching the I happen to be watching, but I'm
not a massive basketball fan, don't have time. But the
thunder Rockets game, which was there opening game of the
season a couple of days ago. Happened to be watching that,
and it was a cliffanger, two times over, two over times.
Durant got fouled out with about two seconds to go. Now,
not for one moment suggesting tour aanswer, crook, I'm sure

(25:06):
he's not. But from here on in, when he gets
held out with two seconds ago and his team loses,
you're going, well, hold on, what was that about? Is
that a thing? By the way, Trump's pardoned a guy
called Jing Ping shaoh Will He was with Binance. You
remember Binance? He pled guilty in twenty three to enabling
money laundering. That was part of the four point three

(25:26):
billion dollar settlement that Binance reached with the DOJ. Trump's
crypto adventure, though which is run by his family, currently
has been helped by a partnership with an under the
radar trading platform quietly administered by finance. Now they don't
have to, but they have. Who's paying for the I'm
really upset about the White House getting demo. It's one

(25:48):
that I don't build your ballroom. I don't care, but
you said you wouldn't bowl the White House in your light.
He's a liar anyway, So he's bowling the East wing.
Who's paying for it? They released that today. It's gone
from two hundred to three hundred million. But then all
constructions like that, Amazon, Apple, Caterpillar, Coin Based, Comcast, hard Rock, Google, HP, Lockheed, Meta, Microsoft,

(26:11):
T Mobile, Union, Pacific Railroad, Edward and Shari Glazer, the
Glazer family as in football Lutnix, the Lutnik family, Cameron
Winklevoss and Tyler Winklevoss. So at least, so, I mean
it's true someone else is playing for it. Nine minutes
away from seven the make.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and news Tom sed b.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Right o Tanzania. They're going to have a vote on
the twenty ninth of October. Problem at this particular point
in time, the main opposition party as well, not the
whole party has been arrested, but a guy called Hesh
has been arrested. The government not responding to that particular move.
There's an outcry of the disappearance of a former Tantany
and ambassador as well, guy called Polepole, Humphrey Polepole. He

(26:52):
was a bit outspoken about the government, so the government
rounded him up. The president, who's a woman called Hassan.
She's running for the second term. First time she's contested
the election since she took office on the death of
the previous president. She was initially popular and they thought
she was good for democracy and all that sort of stuff.
But she's turned a bit apparently, so we'll see where
that goes. Then we come to Cameroon. The Cameroon vote,

(27:15):
which was what would it be, a couple of weeks ago.
Now that's been in court and the court this week
dismissed calls for the recount or a total cancelation. There's
been a whole lot of protests as well, but the
judges on the Constitutional Council dismissed eight petitions insufficient evidence.
The opposition guy backery, he said, I'm the winner. You're
allowed to say you're the winner, and that part of

(27:36):
the world. I'll rand you up as well. The old
guy who's running for it for about his seventh or
eighth time, he's already one hundred and fifty three anyway,
looks like he's going to win. So there's your AFRICTA
update for Friday, five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 17 (27:51):
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business favor.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
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Speaker 2 (27:59):
To see Africa's forming itself so successfully in the democratic area,
isn't it? More bad news from the EV market. I'm
afraid to tell you. Ribean first saw a ribbean in
San Francisco. I was driving in a car and I
saw a Ribvian. Next month, I thought, that's a ribbon,
and I looked at it, had a good look at it,
and I thought it's as far as EV's go, big
trucks go. I thought that's not bad. It wasn't great,
but it certainly wasn't Chinese. The Chinese in terms of

(28:22):
design for cars on these evs, I mean really checks anyway.
The Ribban was okay, but they didn't sell any anyway
because they announced overnight they laying off six hundred workers
quote unquote slower than expected. Ev demartin no kidding, follows
a slightly mixed year. Well where are they up to? Well,
the second quarter the lost one point nine billion. Third
quarter sales were up thirty two percent to just over
thirteen thousand. But the problem with that, of course, is

(28:44):
the aforementioned with Andrew Be aforementioned a subsidy that was
being run by the Biden administration. You had about thirteen
thousand New Zealand dollars off your car here EV. So
that all ended at the end of September. So of
course before it all ended, everyone rushed out and bought
themselves in EV. So you wait for the next quarter,
sales will be through the floor. Same same thing happened
in this country. Of course, therefore casters drop. They now

(29:05):
think for the year they'll lose around somewhere between three
point seven and three point nine billion. So just if
you're it's like the meta future liable glasses or whatever,
that thing is, It's like, how many billions do you
need to lose before you go? Guys, maybe this just
isn't going the way we thought it would. You've seen

(29:25):
the Zeker. I mean, honestly, if you've got nothing else
to do this weekend. And I'm not anti Zeker, and
I'm not anti Chinese, and I'm not anti cars, but
go have a look at the Zeker and ask yourself
what is it that you're seeing there that you'd pay
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for. It's certainly not

(29:47):
the look of it. Brian Roach, he's getting up early
for us in Queensland at the moment because you know
he's on holiday. Who told you that about nine million times?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
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Speaker 2 (30:04):
Be seven past seven to the big question out of
yesterday's in dust real actions, where to now? The strike,
like all strikes, doesn't actually change anything. Material frustration was aired.
I guess hyperbole like the Herald's headline this morning, if
you've seen it, defining moment in our history gets printed,
but we still don't have a deal. Public Service Commissioner
ser Brian roaches back with us. Brian morning, good morning.

(30:24):
Did the pictures that I'm sure you saw yesterday, or
the feed you got back or whatever, did they move
you in any way, shape or form.

Speaker 20 (30:32):
No, not at all. We got what we expect. That
people have gotten out of a system. We now need
to get back to the table and find a solution
that avoids these disruptions. New Zealanders deserve better.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
When I read the headline this morning, a defining moment
in our history?

Speaker 21 (30:47):
Is it?

Speaker 20 (30:50):
I don't see it that way at all. I said,
as a moment where accumulated frustration was expressed. Those messages
have been sent many times, We've heard them. It doesn't
solve anything. Getting back and finding a way forward is
the only way to get through this, and we both
parties have to be able.

Speaker 21 (31:07):
To do it.

Speaker 20 (31:08):
I'm committed to doing that.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Is there any sense from the government moves I mean, traditionally,
what you see as a protest so large that the government,
the politics of the day, the government goes geez, We're
on the losing side of this. We need to do something.
Is there any sense that that's where they're at.

Speaker 20 (31:24):
I've had no cause of that nature. What I have
been told is to operate within the budget. I've done that.
We've actually achieved settlements, so we know that we can
do it. We just need the unions to see it
the same way. We need to make trade offfs. I've
made significant trade offfs to get to the settlement that
we made a few weeks ago. They need to come

(31:45):
to the party and be prepared to make trade offs.
I have not seen that yet.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Explain the difference the principles that did the deal. What's
different about that than the people who haven't done the deal?
Why did that work and the rest hasn't.

Speaker 20 (32:00):
Well, if there was a smaller group of people involved,
they were very committed to finding solution. They focused very
clearly on what were the critical issues. I spent the
day with them, backwards and forwards. We both had to
trade off. We got a deal. They were happy. I
would like to see that replicated across the PPTA, the NZDI.

(32:21):
It's possible, but when there's extraneous other information coming to
the party, such as our approach to the treaty or
white hanging, that is not critical to terms and conditions.
They are important issues, but they aren't relevant to terms
and conditions.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah, how much peripheral stuff is going on there as
opposed to just hard numbers and how many people you
employ or don't employ.

Speaker 20 (32:43):
I think there's way too much peripheral. I think there's
too much theater around the bargaining. We're all captured in
a historical model where there's very low levels of trust.
It's very complicated. It's overly complicated. I'd like to think
we should streamline it. We could do a lot more.
There's no question that we need to reward good teachers.

(33:04):
There's no question we need to support public education. But
we don't need to be told that at the bargaining table.
We just need to find solutions.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Would you favor arbitration?

Speaker 20 (33:16):
I favor anything that gets to a solution that avoids
disruption to the households and patients that we have seen.
And that's why use today. I've approached the Employment Relations Authority.
You see whether they could help us with the PPTA.
PPT at this point are reluctant to do that. That's
a mystery as why they would be. We both should

(33:36):
be committed to getting money in the pockets of teachers.
I could make that happen very quickly.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Appreciate time, I have a good weekend, Sir Brian Rach
who's up early for us in Queensland, and don't text
me going well, each has to be on holiday ten
ten minutes past seven. In the world of geopolitics, where
the Lowing Institute is suggesting a new intelligence sharing agreement
between Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Nations, essentially calling
it Pacific Eyes, which is essentially a lot of my
suppose the local version of five Eyes. It is to

(34:02):
counter China's growing influence. Wayne matt form a defense minister,
is whether it's Wayne morning to you, if you were
still in charge of the portfolio, would you look at
this and go that's a damn good idea or not.

Speaker 22 (34:14):
It seems a good idea. The key point will be
getting trust between the four partners that they think of
themselves as equals. So it's fundamental and that's how New
Zealand thinks about Five Eyes. We might be the smallest,
but we consider ourselves an equal and if you can
achieve that.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, that was one of several questions I had around
that given the Pacific and the complex makeup of their
view of China and their relationship with US and all
of that sort of stuff. Could you round up a
couple of Pacific nations that would be I don't know,
on the right side of a Pacific eyes arrangement.

Speaker 22 (34:50):
Well, the proposal is initially Papua New Guinea, Fiji, Australian
New Zione and Papua New Guinea and Fiji are the largest,
you know what we would regard a specific nations and
they all have capable of militaries, so it makes sense
to start there. Australia has done its deal, it's a

(35:11):
military alliance with Papua New Guinea, so this kind of
is a springboard of that and extending it Fiji. I
think that would be possible. It won't be easy to achieve.
Is a building trust will be the critical part of it.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
But do you think if you can do that, it's
real or is this just a think tank doing what
think tanks do.

Speaker 22 (35:33):
It could be real because what you'd be doing is
sharing a higher level of intelligence cooperation than currently occurs.
That's clearly what the defense alliance with Papua New Guinea
between Australia and PNG is about. This is kind of
building off that, using that as the first sort of
building block to a wider security apparatus within the region.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
All right, let's say it, guys, Anye, we appreciate it.
Won't have a good we can form a defense, Minister
Wayne matt with US thirteen minutes past seven, Pask, Mike,
was this guy on holiday when Rome's burning, rame isn't burning,
and he's allowed to be on holiday? And if he's
I mean, it probably didn't work out that well optically speaking,
but I'm sure he regrets getting up talking to me
at four in the morning. But having said that, you're
allowed to go on holiday, and he wasn't going to
do anything during yesterday's strike anyway. It's not like they

(36:19):
were going to stop halfway down Queen Street and go
ring Brian and we're ready to do a deal. Was
it morning, Mike. I've just bought a ZEKEA forty five
years in the automotive industry, so a lot of brand
analysis and soul searching, a compelling proposition, Matthew, enjoy it, Mike,
what do you think of the cyberstuff? Good question, very
good question. I'd give it the award for the best
looking EB currently on the market. Just off the top

(36:41):
of my head, Justin Marshall. Next thirteen past.

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Speaker 2 (36:51):
Joe Parker shortly sixteen past seven, Speaking of sports, what
are we making of Jason Holland stepping down from the
All Blacks after the Northern to a second high profile
exit under the Robertson rain Leo McDonald of course after
three tests left and anyway, former All Black Justin Marshall
back with this morning to you.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
And a good morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
Nice to be back chatting to you.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Very nice of you to say so. Jason Holland, is
this a scandal or just a bloke who's moving on?

Speaker 23 (37:14):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (37:14):
Mate, I think it's a bloke that's moving on.

Speaker 10 (37:16):
Like obviously, in terms of continuity for the All Blacks,
it's not great. Like Jason looks after set piece attack
and back attack, and when you've got a team looking
to evolve and to get better, you want continuity so
that the players have got the same information and so
that the voice that they're hearing and the things that
they want to do and achieve, then they know what

(37:37):
they are in for But when you change that personnel
and then you have to find somebody else because that's
an important part of the game.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It is disruptive, is the some of the media You're
trying to make this a raise of things, raises a problem,
everything's a problem around Razer. Is that true or not?

Speaker 10 (37:52):
No, I don't feel that that's the case. Like obviously
Jason has his reasons for moving on, and those reasons
could be the fact that he's not happy with the
workload or he wants to move on to other things.
I certainly feel that what you need when you need
a good when you get a coaching group, you need
good balance. Look what happened to En Foster. At the
end of the day, he got rid of coaches, didn't
he and then he had a very successful Rugby World

(38:13):
Cup campaign. Now there's more to the All Blacks than
Rugby World Cups, and I'm very much on that page.
But you have to find that balance where everybody's got
good synergy, you all work together and the common denominator
is you're winning every test match for the All Blacks.
And perhaps Jason Holland been involved from his perspective, and
like Leon McDonald said, I don't quite feel that it's working,

(38:33):
and the best thing for the All Blacks is me
moving on and looking at where I can be a
better coach.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Have we got a rich talent pool of replacements?

Speaker 10 (38:43):
Look, I don't know that we've got the greatest steps
that we used to have. I certainly feel that there's
a great a great amount of coaches coming through and
what has been a really entertaining positive Good Rugby NPC campaign,
But taking that next step is a big step. And
obviously we've not seen a lot of those guys come
through Super Rugby yet, and Jamie Joseph has now gone

(39:04):
on to that All Blacks fifteen. Those people, however, a
lot of them are ambitious and want to be head coaches,
non assistant coaches. But there are plenty of players out there.
Look look at what Jamie's gott. He's got the likes
of Corey, Jane and people like that involved. So they
are there and thereabouts.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
While I've got you prediction time n PC Canterbury by
how many?

Speaker 10 (39:25):
Oh, Mike, you know that you and I know that
Canterbury's going to win this game.

Speaker 16 (39:29):
It's going to be tough.

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Targo going with the better form but I feel that
the Canterbury factor in christ Church, they'll get the job
done in a real close game.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Internationally, if we're going to lose one of the four
I see at Ireland and Chicago. But I say four
of four, what.

Speaker 16 (39:43):
Do you say?

Speaker 10 (39:44):
I say four or four? The first one is really
important that we get away to a good start. And
then obviously history against Scotland, we don't want that as
a negative. They've never ever beaten us, so that should
motivate the All Blacks. To me, England's a Nigoli one.
As long as we win two and they go go
to England with the momentum, we can get all four.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Final question for a Friday, Justin Marshall. When you go
to your spin class, are people intimidated by you being
next to them?

Speaker 10 (40:10):
I tell you what, Mike, I usually walk by head
down or a hoodie on. I get onto my bike
and get my job done. I'm not what I used
to be, buddy, but at least I'm still putting it
out there again.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yes, so well that a stro all right, We'll have
a good class. Appreciate it very much. Justin Marshall's got
a seven thirty there at seven twenty.

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(41:40):
The little piece of news and current of incidence. It's
just a shade hotter than inflation. Judith Colin seven, her
open letter to all of us this week revealed a
few excellent home truths about unions, the prize going to
their obsession of course with palor with Palestine over kids'
education Alliance seven. You got the sense it was always
going to go way. So let's hope dawn meets the

(42:01):
real deal and better days are ahead. Are Labour's election
policies too watat? I mean it seems almost impossible to
believe you could roll out simple ideas as badly as
that I mean Labour's policies four. I mean as for
the actual details. So the games idea isn't new, but
it's not bad. The Doctor's committee is frequiusly communist, and
we still really don't have a clue about the future
fund jobs seven. The advertising of jobs is up. The

(42:25):
gaps are there. That is a green shoot manufacturing and
bus drivers, speaking of which seven, they are jobs too,
So how is it they can't find people and yet
we pay people who are allegedly looking for work. The
changes around the climate reporting for business seven making business
easier and cheaper to do A simple welcome idea. Joe Parker, right,

(42:46):
let's get ready?

Speaker 7 (42:48):
This is just me?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Or do we love Joe Parker? One fight away from
the belts and he's with us very shortly? Kevin Rudd six,
I don't like you either, and being humiliated he seems
to say just job ironically elbow Speaking of which, eight,
good good on you for a bloke. It was a
goner if you remember before the last election. He has
the potential now to out hawk hawk putin two. Honestly,

(43:12):
what does he have over Trump? I mean Trump looks
like a punching bag on this war. Are the Sports
Academy charter school? Eight?

Speaker 24 (43:19):
Is it just me?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Or is that like a dream school for kids who
hated school? Are the ird seven? Almost? Seven? Well, twelve
bucks almost twelve bucks back for every dollar they spend
chasing up slack payers. That's a good return. More please,
because there's actually ten billion dollars out there owed Marrama,
Marrama one, a whole year's work in the ben because

(43:43):
you occurred and turn up for your own bill. You
cannot make that stuff up. That is the week Goffy
is on the website. And if you take six of
these glue them back to back to back, they make
awesome placards for your next piquet line. Husky, Mike, in
regards to the health side of this dispute, were the
government not going to do something about the twelve layers
bureaucracy in the health service? Yes, they are, But Brian's
busy at the moment. Brian's in charge of reforming the

(44:05):
public sector, and up until this recent point in time,
he was busy doing that, and he was going to
hopefully fingers Cross closed down a whole bunch of ministries
and therefore, you know we'd all be better off. Mike,
as a farmer, I'm voting no, what a sellout? And
why is Fontira not making those brands return more? Such
a cop out? And yet it will be voted through. Yes,
it will be voted through. Interesting the juxtaposition between the

(44:25):
Prime Minister ex Business who sees the way the boat's
going to go, which is it's going to bolt home.
It'll be the same as the door meets vote. It'll
most people will vote for it. No one turns down
four hundred thousand dollars and no one, no farm is
interested in ice cream at the best of times. And
yet Winston Peter's that old and that old altruistic New Zealand.
And I'm on, I can't make up my mind. I'm

(44:46):
on both sides. I mean, I know it's going to
go through. I'm not against it going through. And it's billions,
billions of dollars into the economy. And after all, you've
invested in Fonterra, if you're a farmer and you're getting
a return on your money. That's what investment's all about,
for goodness sake. But equally I agree with Winston Peters.
See how I could never be politician. I'd be on
one side, then I'd be on the other, and then
I'd be flipped, would be flip flop hosking, that's what
they call it. And just like a politician exactly. It's

(45:06):
flip flop Hosking. I'm on the fence on this one.
I say, morning, Mike could be on the Mike hosting
break this morning Mike cough. While I'm on the fence
on this one. No again, not again, and hang up
and they never invite me back. Joe Parker. I'm assuming
it's going to go well because who's Fabio Wardley? For
goodness sake? And then next up the title is that
how it works is with us next.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
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Speaker 2 (45:33):
They'd be Tim and Katy after right, of course we'll
talk about the Orc and Deft C as well. They
got their first home game this weekend. They were away
in Australia last week and it was now anyway, we'll
come back to that shortly because we need to deal
with the boxing. At twenty three. Toway Parker back in
the win this weekend. Theory goes he's one went away
from a title fight. The opponent's Fabio Wardley. Warner's got

(45:53):
a good record nineteen wins, no loss as one draw,
the winds are all knockout. So are We're ready to rumble?
And Joe Parkers with us from London.

Speaker 25 (46:01):
Morning, Good morning, good evening from London.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, you're fighting fit and ready to knock somebody out.

Speaker 25 (46:09):
You know what I've had, I've had a tremendous camp
of put in some great work, very productive camp, also
focused on a lot of recovery, and I feel like
coming into this fight week, there are no injuries, there
are no niggles and pain, and I'm in shape. I'm
in proper good shape for a good fight this weekend.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's good. What's your plan? Because this guy, Wardley's unusual,
isn't he Where he's come from, how he fights and
all that sort of stuff. Is he an unknown quantity?

Speaker 25 (46:33):
He's I think he's a bit unknown in the sense
that you know, he didn't come from the amateur background type,
or you have a lot of amateur fighting and go
into the professional ranks and you carry that with you.
I think of Wardley, he started off as a white collar,
white collar fighter, come into the professional game, and he's
learned along the way. And someone like that is unpredictable
because he doesn't have the same similarity as the fighters

(46:54):
who have gone through the diameter ranks. So his file
is very different. It's a different to the normal fighter
who's had or the amateur pedigree.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
How much type have you looked at him?

Speaker 25 (47:05):
I've locked out a lot of tape. I've watched his
last five fights many times. I mean, why running on
a treadmill for an hour hour and a half And
I've just been watching his fights over and over and
over again and then talking to Andy Lee about the
good things he does also the things he does not
so good. And they're coming up of a game plan
that we can go into the fight.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
World see and reading about him account work it out.
So he's got all the wins, he's never lost, he's
had one drawer, and he knocks everybody out. But because
of where he's come from and it's all corporate and unusual.

Speaker 16 (47:32):
Is is that?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Do they count the knockouts counter or is it just
show fighting?

Speaker 22 (47:37):
I do you know what?

Speaker 25 (47:38):
What's his professional career? He has knocked everyone out. He's hard,
but I would say that a lot of the fighters
that haven't been in the top ten or top fifteen
in the world. So even if it looks impressive and
he's got He does have a big right hand, which
I'm going to be cautious and whey and I'm going
to be switched on for every second of every minute
of every round. I'm not going to take that lightly.
But if you compare the record, or if you compare

(47:58):
the people that we have fought together, I don't think
he's on the same level as me.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Okay, what's the buzz like at the moment? Is there
is there something building here? Does that feel good?

Speaker 6 (48:08):
Oh?

Speaker 25 (48:08):
It feels great. That's I'm in the hotel. The support
here is an amazing right. You come from New Zealand,
a small place, and you come from Salama and that's
o the world, and you come here to London, you
go to Ireland, you go to all the countries on
this side, and you've got people who loving you and
supporting you, backing, and that for me, that's like a
humbling feeling because we come from a small place, right
and we get so much love on this side of
the world, and everyone's buzzing for this fight.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Is he going to get a lot of advantage given
it's sort of a home crowd for him.

Speaker 25 (48:34):
So they've taken me, taking me in as your own
I feel like I do feel like that he's going
to have a lot of support here because he's from here.
But I do feel like the crowd's going to be
a mixed crowd. There's also going to be support for
our team, team Parker.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
How have you weighed this up? Joe? It's like you
want to fight, so you take the fight, but you're
taking a risk on this fight, giving he's a bit
of an unknown, aren't you?

Speaker 16 (48:57):
You know?

Speaker 25 (48:57):
I might just risk him every fight. It doesn't matter
who you there's a risk in eery fight. And you
know what, time for me I keep I say, if
our time is very important. Time goes fast and does
a wait for anyone. So if I if I chose
to wait for usick and I never even got to
fight anyways, then I just wasted my time waiting. I
want to fight. I want to keep active, and I
feel like I'm coming into my prime, so I want
to make it most of it.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, is it frustrating waiting on what may or may
not happen with Yusic and Duboir and all the other stuff.

Speaker 25 (49:23):
Nah? You know what I used to back in the
day when I wasn't in the position I am now
get You'll get frustrated and you'll be like, why is
this happening? Or why am I not getting the site?
But you know what, I've just come to a place
now where I just appreciate what I can control, and
that's meat training and an off season, meat preparing well,
meat building away. And now that I'm in camp, or
now that I'm in fight week, I feel like I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
To go, ready to go fantastic. So let's say you
have you got a plan for the spot. You're going
for a knockout or will it go the distance or
you just play it as it comes.

Speaker 25 (49:52):
As crazy as it sounds like, I'm going to go
into the site and I'm going to just dance over
those lights and I'm going to just enjoy my work.
I know what I can do, and I've seen it
and inspiring. I've seen it in the training. I've seen
it and holding the pairs of Andy Lee. If I
guy didn't execute the plan, I know I'm going to
put on a great performance fantastic.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Have you been watching I've been watching on Netflix the
match Room documentary with the Herne people. Have you seen
that documentary yet?

Speaker 25 (50:15):
I've seen part of it. Yes, I have seen part
of it, and it's also brings a lot of eyes
to the sport of boxing. Yeah, having things like these
documentaries exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
It was interesting to watch because Queensbury's featured and you
know you with Frank is Frank a good guy, Frank Warren.

Speaker 25 (50:29):
Yeah, Frank is a good guy, like all these promoters
are good guys. But the our promoters and also promoters
have their favorites. And because we're from New Zealand, far
far away and we're not coming from a big place
where we can bring a lot of eyes and a
lot of attention, you know, the promoters here will always
choose their own that's true.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
So let's say you win this one. Is that you
done for the year, do you think or we can't
say that yet.

Speaker 25 (50:51):
Kyrie said, see wind this one and then you never
know what's going to happen if there's another Fune December
that my body's ready to go and I'm ready to
go back into another camp, Jimmy, as many places as
you can for the time I lift in boxing.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Fantastic. Well, listen, we love talking to you, Joe as always,
go well this weekend and we assume you're going to
win because you will win because you are a win.
A lovely to talk to you.

Speaker 25 (51:10):
Thank you, Mike Kevil, Good day as you soon there
we go.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Joe Parker out of London this morning. Is he the
nicest guy in the world. I love Joe Parker, absolutely
love them, I think, and this is a bit risky
of me being a bit loose on a Friday. I
think he'd be my favorite sportsperson of all the sports people.
I think pro pickleballer that you know well, yeah, I'm
talking elite athletes. Oh you know what I'm saying, Mike.

(51:36):
Joe Parker integrity, values, modesty is legendary, remarkable man, I
think he is. And next question I have for you,
where would it sit if he won? So he goes
with you sick after this fight and he gets to
yusick and he beats you sick and he gets all
the titles. Where would that sit in the annals of
New Zealand's history having a title?

Speaker 6 (51:56):
Who?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I mean, you know you remember Joshua when he fought
Joshua That was incredible. The interest in this country was
next level because so whatever you want about boxing, when
it gets to that level and it's on and it's real.
The nation comes to a grinding halt. And if he
won that, just imagine if he won that, where would
that put him in the animals of sports history. A
seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
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Speaker 16 (52:22):
It be.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I sort of feel bad now because I like Razor.
I really like Razor. Raiser is one of my favorite
people in the world because he's a bit left of center,
and I love left of center people. And then I
like Ryan Fox too. I really like Ryan, and I
like where he's come from and how much he's achieved,
and I like those sort of stories. And I like Liam.

Speaker 26 (52:42):
Is having a quiet weekend this week in Liam or
what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
He's just for people who are concerned about the Mexican situation,
is that the rule state, I think Andrew made this
fairly clear and sport than the the rule state that
you've got to put a sub driver your reserve driver
in a car, both cars over a period of a
couple of different race meetings. And so he's out of
the car on FP one, which will be tomorrow. But

(53:06):
then of course the announcement's coming according to Helmet, who
Now I can safely say I don't like Helmet that much.
We've had him on the PREMI it'd be nice, insightful
guy and a major player in the F one, but
he's certainly not in the Raiser Ryan Liam Joe category.
But nevertheless, I mean i'd have him back on obviously,

(53:27):
But the decisions being made after Mexico as to what
happens next year, I think Liam's fine. I think this
whole thing's been blown out of all proportion, and I cannot,
for the life of me work out why if you
had Lawson and Sonoda, assuming Haja goes to Red Bull,
have you got Lawson and Sonoda, why you would promote
this guy from F two who's done nothing all year.

(53:48):
Why would you suddenly do that? What would be the
point of that? Therefore, I'm assuming that Liam's absolutely fine
now given the week in fifth. That's the other thing
I wanted to say. Somewhere in unused this morning, authorities
were suggesting that you rearray range your long weekend plans
because they've got a tree to cut up or something
like that. And I mean, when there's something wrong with
the skitchen, person said to me yesterday with all that

(54:09):
they were coming back from Australia. Person said to me, yesterday,
come back from Australia as they were looking at the carnage.
And this is not to undermine what happened yesterday. And
there were some parts of the country that had some
real weather issues. I get all of that, but they said,
it's like it's like New Zealand is like an old
person who's bored on the internet looking for problems and
things to close down and moan about. And I thought

(54:29):
that's a nice way of putting it. And so this
morning they're telling you to rearrange your long weekend. Since
when did some local authority or a fends or a
council or some NGO or is it have the right
to tell you to rearrange your whole life for a
whole long weekend just because they've got something that's a

(54:49):
bit pressing on their desk at the moment.

Speaker 26 (54:51):
I suppose that if you were planning to drive over
to the West Coast, if.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
You come literally to arrange yeah, I guess you know,
if you get to the dead end and there's a
cliff at the end and you'd have to do a
three point turn, they'd probably stand there and go, well,
make sure you indicate when you do that.

Speaker 26 (55:07):
And if you're if you're on the West coast, you're
probably gonna have to rearrange a few things as well.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Precisely, I don't know. There's too many people telling us.
What I'm saying is we see this, That's what I
was going to talk about, Glenn.

Speaker 26 (55:19):
There's a lot of pink, pink highlighter on that.

Speaker 23 (55:21):
It was.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
It was.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
There was a tremendous amount of research went into that,
and it's not gone on air now.

Speaker 26 (55:26):
Because usually when you wave a bit of paper around,
it's only got a little bit of pink highlighter.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
That's because the little pink is who I've got most
of it in my head. But this one I was
struggling with, so I had to have some extra pink.
And now I haven't even got it out on air
because you've just wail. You've been like a little authority there, Glenn,
and you waylaid me. You've told me how to rearrangement.
Show your Boden Barrett in yea, and they see Boden
like Boden's wife better Hannah. I love Hannah, but she's

(55:54):
not an elite athlete.

Speaker 26 (55:55):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I don't think that.

Speaker 26 (55:56):
I think it's a different discussion.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Probably is ten minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news dogs.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Mike, you must like Zoe Hobbs. Now I don't know Zoe.
I know Zoe's coach. I think I like her. But
you know that's another story. Seven away from eight home
opener this weekend for Auckland def C. So how do
you approach your second season given how successful that first
one was? Highest average attendance in the A League of
eighteen thousand are premiers played? Of course at the end
of it. Nick Becker is, of course Auckland f c's CEO,

(56:26):
and he's back with us. Nick. Morning morning, Mike.

Speaker 11 (56:28):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I'm very well? Indeed, how would you sum up the
season so far? With a game and a drawer?

Speaker 7 (56:35):
With the one?

Speaker 16 (56:37):
Listen? Going to Melbourne first up? They're always a hard
team to play.

Speaker 24 (56:41):
We haven't lost to them yet there yet, so did
middle drawer on last Saurday was a good result for us.

Speaker 16 (56:46):
Take a point any day of the week.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Okay, what about the long weekend? I mean, we're all
going somewhere, aren't we nick?

Speaker 24 (56:51):
I know, I know that's hurt us a little bit
in terms of we were hoping for a sellout, another sellout,
first home match of the season. I don't think we'll
quite get there. I think everyone's going to go down
to the beach and you know what, fair enough to them.
Hopefully everybody who is here in Auckland is going to
come along to our match tomorrow at five pm. It's
really the only thing to do this weekend if you're

(57:12):
in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Now the five pm thing is that an issue is
to three pm better five pm night game Sunday game.
So I mean, how much, say do you get in
all of that?

Speaker 24 (57:23):
Well, we actually push for so we get really good
feedback and really positive I mean, obviously we had great
crowds last season, so five pm on a Saturday works
really well for us. It means everyone can do what
they need to do during the day, then they can
turn up. It's a really family friendly timeslot. And then
Sunday our Sunday games are actually at three pm, so
even better. So it's sort of all season we're going

(57:43):
to be either Saturday five pm or Sunday three pm.

Speaker 16 (57:45):
So great result for us in.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
That sense, goods have you been able to ascertain the
league itself has form individually in any given team materially
changed or not.

Speaker 7 (57:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (57:57):
Look, I think we play Within City Wanderers tomorrow at
go Media. They they're always a good team, They're an
attacking team. They've brought in some some good players over
the over the off season. I think they're going to
be one of the surprise teams this season. And then
it's going to be very much Melbourne City Melbourne Victory
to Melvin Victory.

Speaker 16 (58:15):
Who played last weekend. They'll be up there and thereabouts.

Speaker 24 (58:18):
But I think I think the Wanderers Wesnessydney Wonders who've
played tomorrow, will be a bit of a surprise package.
So you know it'll be it'll be a great game
for it, I think, be a very attacking game. But
it's also gonna it's gonna be interesting to see.

Speaker 16 (58:29):
Where they are at.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Okay, and what about season tickets in the bottom line
and all that sort of stuff you got to buy
on that.

Speaker 16 (58:34):
So far, Yeah, we're looking good. We're looking good.

Speaker 24 (58:37):
We've we've nearly doubled where we were in terms of
season tickets already, so far, so that's been really positive.
Everything off the patch has been going great, you know,
sort of loads more commercial partners have come and we've
we've resigned all our big partners A and Z have
come around to the front of the shirts, so you
know that that side of the business is going really well.
Everyone's very happy. We've got a new strip out Mike

(58:59):
which which looks great and as selling well and so
hoping to see that across the schools of Auckland and
playgrounds and away at beaches this.

Speaker 16 (59:06):
Summer as well. So yeah, know that side of things
really good.

Speaker 24 (59:08):
And then also on the pitch we've brought in a
couple of new players too, so a couple of attacking
players who'll kind of, I guess fill a couple of
gaps that we had last season. So we've got a
new guy from England called Sam Cosgrove. Big Cozy is
your classic big tool striker, you know, sort of one
that you kind of get into the box and he
scores goals.

Speaker 16 (59:28):
So yeah, we're really looking forward to the season.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Good go get them, appreciate it very much. Nick Becker,
who is the Auckland A big Cozy, that's right. They
call me Big Hosky. Now they don't, So Nick Backer
of Auckland FC, we wish them all the very best
for the season, and Tim and Katy will do the
week for us. And then how Hot and Sydney this week?
You notice that thirty seven thirty eight degrees records were broken.

(59:52):
I reckon it's climate change. I don't want to go
on a limb, but I reckon it's climate change.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Asking the questions others won't for the mic hot King
breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Others can't use togs, dead bizebe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Sadflies, Mike nick Becker from a FC you like him?

Speaker 17 (01:00:24):
Fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
This is Tame and Parlor? And who hasn't heard of
Tame and parlo? As I wanted to pass, I wanted
to pass Glenn, and I says that Tarma, because of
course I've been, you know, immersed in our cultural story
in this country. So I says that Tarma. And Glenn
said in the way that only Glenn can say, have

(01:00:47):
you never heard of tame and Parlor? In that you know,
because you're an idiot kind of way? And I said,
straight up and down note.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
But I reckon, if I had I'd.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Like it, and I think back to the key isn't
dead beat not me this and named the album there
are It's been another one of these five years between
albums things message, Who's Kevin Parker? Is that time in
parlerm was tame and Parler.

Speaker 26 (01:01:16):
The person it's got complicated is this? Does that mean
you don't know, let's get complicated in Perth?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Well, because Kevin Parker worked with Diana Ross, Guerrilla's and
Dua Lipa, So I'm just wondering if he's the same
effectively effectively. Okay, So there's almost fifty six minutes worth
of music here over twelve tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
It's got a thing, doesn't It's got a week in
Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Katie Hawk's me, good morning.

Speaker 21 (01:01:47):
Good morning.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
I like you.

Speaker 21 (01:01:51):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Just spreading the love about the place this morning. Do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Timur and you're a season and broadcasting you must have
interviewed people, you know, like on a consistently sort of
you know, ongoing you sort of and you think, jeez,
that's a good I like the relationships you form over
the years where you start off with a young person
or a newb or a whatever, and they're a bit
quiet or shy or whatever. Then they come out of
themselves and before you know it, you're still dealing with
and you think, God, you're a good guy or a
good person. I love you. You're You're neat.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
You're neat too, You're neat.

Speaker 21 (01:02:24):
You're also softening with age.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
I reckon.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 27 (01:02:31):
It's not like the Mike Hosking I encountered when I
interviewed you at Radio New Zealand with your mullet and
your dollar bill handed was it cup links?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
For the record, there was no mullet. There was never
a mullet a mullet. It was I know a mullet
when I see a mullet, not a mullet. No, no,
I am on the cuffs of your collar. I'm sort
of pathetic in my old age. I've decided, I'm sort
of sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:02:54):
You're getting better, am I don't recoil from old age.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Embrace it, boss and sixty boss.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Stop laughing. It's got nothing to do with age. It's
just it's life and times and experience.

Speaker 21 (01:03:11):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I don't know about that either, Do you know Katie,
we haven't talked about this at home this week because
we've had such a busy week. Haven't we had such
a busy week?

Speaker 21 (01:03:21):
Yeah, yep. Anyway, what is it we haven't talked about
Duncan Web?

Speaker 20 (01:03:26):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:03:27):
Well, why would we talk about that?

Speaker 28 (01:03:29):
To be honest, if you brought that to the lunch table,
I'd be like, are we short of material in the
marriage now? Because happy couple with stuff going on in
their lives talk about Duncan Web because.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I found it interesting. And this is where you probably
come in as well to him, because I found it interesting.
In a world of conspiracy, I want to take him
at his face value. And Ginny was on the program
and she claims to be a very good friend of his,
and it came out of left field. But the fact
that she claims to be a very good friend of
his but didn't know then leads into my conspiratorial side,

(01:04:02):
which goes, why do you wake up one day and
just go, you know what? I quit and I've got
another career in me. But Tim, you did that, didn't you?

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
I guess Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:14):
It depends I went to something?

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Is he going to something?

Speaker 29 (01:04:17):
Is he just saying adventuring oh, no, is it that
we had a whiteboard session and you're actually I actually
heard about a whiteboard session of the leading media organization
and a person in the room said, oh, my name's
got up there on the whiteboard.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
And they went, oh, this is awkward. Is that a
true Is that a true story?

Speaker 21 (01:04:40):
That sounds like a TV? And Zed moved to me,
We know how TV?

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
When I'll tell you what?

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
You know?

Speaker 27 (01:04:49):
When when they guessed more Magazine, we got, we got.
I was working on More Magazine and when you know,
it was coming and they invited us up to the
boardroom and on the board on the table of the
boardroom there was a single box of tissues, at which
point one of my colleagues started weeping copiously.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
Yeah, that's how they did it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
And so so the.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Did she know? He know that he was going to
get axed or everyone was getting axed.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Everyone saw it, say oh, the numbers aren't good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
What are we going to do? We had in a
way day you know, which tried. Did anyone drill down
to the fact that that was probably what sunk the
magazine by having too many away days?

Speaker 23 (01:05:29):
Now, it wasn't it, you know what it was just
it was just magazines. You know, they are just not
as proper as they as they used to be, and
people moved on. That's what happens with you know, that's
what's happening I think throughout media and journalism.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
But you quit journalism and you've gone off to do
your current things. So that's a that's a mid career
slash change of gear, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Do you reckon? You could do it? You reckon if
you woke up tomorrow morning and said this this this
magnus magnum thing that I'm doing.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
It's called the Maximum Institute.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
It's a big Do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
If you got sick of the corporate the corporate swill
that you're drowning on the corporate? Do you reckon?

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Why do I take the bait every time? You do
it to every time?

Speaker 7 (01:06:13):
I just take the damn bait.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Fish in a barrel more in a moment. It's thirteen
past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
It b sixteen past eight The Week in Review with
two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi business, Mike has
anything substantive planned for the segment or is it hosking
in the media types drinking coffee?

Speaker 28 (01:06:38):
Obviously, obviously it's a lot more savage will the media
types of drinking coffee.

Speaker 21 (01:06:44):
Most of them couldn't be sit on here.

Speaker 27 (01:06:47):
It's Friday night drinks on a Friday morning way that
that's true, Katie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
On a scale of one to ten, one they couldn't
kill less ten. It rained down on you the Instagram
post you put out there yesterday as you sat in
your car at the corner filming the teachers and their
placards saying toot for support, and it went on. How
long was the tape? Was it forty five or fifty?

Speaker 16 (01:07:08):
Was it them?

Speaker 28 (01:07:09):
While I was stopped at a red light on the
corner of Pots and Bingja Voice Roads, which is quite
a busy ish but it was early.

Speaker 21 (01:07:15):
It was like just after eight in the morning, rushing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
How much tooting actually went on in the period of
time that you were at the red light.

Speaker 28 (01:07:22):
The time that I filmed, there wasn't a tout And
I put that up and so then I took heat
both ways because I wasn't making any political statement. I
just thought it was funny because it was like four
people toot for support for the teachers, and I thought, oh,
this would be cool of video this and see how
this goes. And then so I got a lot of
people saying, Oh, there's way more tooting in our area
that's typical of pots and b blah blah blah, and a.

Speaker 21 (01:07:45):
Lot of people going, no joke, no toot. I'm at
home drowning in my children because they're off Yet again
no toots from me, And I realized that I.

Speaker 28 (01:07:54):
Had waded into a political Oh boy, by accident, exactly
what would you assess of you were tall but mills,
what would you assess the percentage.

Speaker 7 (01:08:02):
Us to be.

Speaker 21 (01:08:05):
Well? I would say sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Forty in favor of NOO, in favor of noos. I
think that geographic breakdown would be interesting, though, wasn't it?
What sort of neighborhoods took more than other?

Speaker 21 (01:08:19):
People?

Speaker 10 (01:08:19):
Are weird?

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Are you doing your steps? Maybe people who appear to
be distracted slash out of breath.

Speaker 21 (01:08:25):
Oh can you notice that?

Speaker 28 (01:08:27):
I'm really hoping you wouldn't notice. So what happened was
I was trying to get away with this. I went
out on my walk and I thought I'd be back
in time. But it was my big walk and I thought,
I'm going to take the dog.

Speaker 21 (01:08:36):
She'll be up for it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
And fatal mistake.

Speaker 21 (01:08:38):
Because I'm carrying a three and a half kilowweight, he'll
be a small weight.

Speaker 28 (01:08:41):
I've been carrying her for about forty minutes and it
has slowed me down and I'm not going in time
for the slot. And so I've been up a very
steep hill and I'm carrying the dog. And the funny
thing is I've been walking past I walk past her.
A car pulled over on side of the road listening
to z'd be listening to. I could hear us back,
and I was so tempered to just jump in their
car and go, do you mind if I just finished

(01:09:02):
the slot in your car?

Speaker 26 (01:09:03):
Because can you hold can you hold the mut while
I finished the slot?

Speaker 21 (01:09:07):
Can you hold the dog? I just need to do
this quick home? What sort of It's very embarrassing, was it, Azeka?
It's such a you question. It's a nice car.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Yeah, that's why I want to hear. I like to
think of our audience as nice car driving people and
non tutors. I think we've got a lot of tutors
and nice cars.

Speaker 27 (01:09:27):
I got I've got a question you should have bailed
the openly of s guy up about this.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
Is it soccer or football? In this country?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
It's football, It's one hundred percent football.

Speaker 27 (01:09:36):
It's not it's soccer. We've been calling it soccer for
one hundred years. It's still so I have this argument
with my tenure. He just shouted through the door. It's football,
it's not, it's soccer.

Speaker 21 (01:09:46):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Well, the reason I didn't ask Nick Beckett, who's a
very close friend of mine and I like him tremendously,
is the reason I didn't ask that question is because
that's a credibility issue question. Tim. You don't you know,
if you know, you know, and you don't. You don't
ask questions like that because then you look like a plunker.

Speaker 21 (01:10:01):
No, it's always said soccer.

Speaker 6 (01:10:03):
Thank you, thank you, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 27 (01:10:08):
And the reason the reason they changed is so, oh,
it's football, is because the Brits got upset that the
Americans were using soccer and they said they're not going
to have our words, so they changed the word.

Speaker 17 (01:10:17):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Did you hear Tim the Nicol Revishanker interview yesterday? I
didn't catch that. Okay, well, I'll continue the conversation with Katie. Katy,
did you hear that interview yesterday.

Speaker 28 (01:10:27):
Actually that's the interview I was listening to when I
was filming the not being two to that teachers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Right and so what did you make of him?

Speaker 21 (01:10:34):
I thought it was quite good.

Speaker 28 (01:10:35):
Actually, I was worried for him when he when he
began and I, knowing you like I do, I thought, oh,
this isn't going to go down well when a guest
comes in for the first time and attempts to hijack
the interview because he asked him his first question and
he went, before we start the interview, I can just
say something. And I thought, oh, but you were funny.
You said you're gonn ounce to grab a sick deal.

(01:10:56):
That was good, diffused it, and he was I thought.
I thought he was quite compelling it. I've got I'm
optimistic about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Would you take out a Correy Young membership on the strength.

Speaker 21 (01:11:05):
Of it a Curra Club membership?

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Would you go? That guy is so good? I'm going
to join the Courrier Club. I mean it's a test,
isn't it not.

Speaker 21 (01:11:12):
I can't understand why anyone would go near the Corr Club.

Speaker 28 (01:11:15):
It is heaving with people. You can never get a seat.
It is just an absolute cluster. I cannot think of
anything worse than being trapped in a corry lounge.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Do you get your free courry with your chief executive
officer's job term at the corporate No? No, no, no,
we don't so, but I remember you can tell us
you are, remember, aren't you?

Speaker 21 (01:11:35):
No, No, I'm not, but I have.

Speaker 27 (01:11:36):
I had thought about it because that's that's where all
the power brokers are.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
That's where the brokers are. Deductible. You realize it's tax deductible.

Speaker 6 (01:11:44):
That's true.

Speaker 25 (01:11:44):
It's this is this is any value.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
It's also football not.

Speaker 7 (01:11:48):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
And also I love that you.

Speaker 27 (01:11:49):
You didn't take the baits when the guys think that,
you know yesterday, you actually diffused it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
See this is this is a softer soft cosking, that's
what That's what they calling me a back these days. No, no,
you're getting better with age.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
You're maturing like a mer lot.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Have you got close to home, Caddy?

Speaker 14 (01:12:10):
Well?

Speaker 21 (01:12:10):
No, I think I just lost you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
I think are you lost?

Speaker 16 (01:12:14):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:12:14):
I just lost coverage. I actually on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Anything are you to say.

Speaker 21 (01:12:19):
Where I am? Which is by road?

Speaker 28 (01:12:20):
Conees If anyone sees someone'm stranded with a dog by
road Cone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
That's the best advice I ever gotten radio. They just said,
pretend you're not on air and it So it's worked
out all right for me. So anyway, if you're not
home by the time I get home, Cadie, I'm going
to the country by myself. Okay, So you've got you've got,
you've got forty minutes come get me. Nice to see
you have a good long weekend to It's eight twenty two.

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Asking Mike it's FIFA not FISA as in football. It's
not a bad point. Actually, I don't know that Tim
could argue with that changed to football from soccer by
the New Zealand Federation in two thousand and six. Good

(01:13:53):
stat Does Kate not understand that when you take the
dog for a walk, the dog actually has to boll? Yes,
a good point.

Speaker 26 (01:13:58):
Yeah, she's been carrying it for four minutes. How long
did it actually work?

Speaker 10 (01:14:01):
For dog?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Can walk record for the dog is fifty five minutes
the other day and she got overtly excited about that. Katie,
not the dog. She couldn't believe the dog went that long.
So what she's done is she's made the mistake of
thinking the dog will do it again. And the dog
was only excited because it went to a place that
had never been to before. But once the dog sees
that it's the same place, is never going to repeat

(01:14:23):
the exercise. I tried to explain this to her the
other day. I said, do not take the dog back
to this place. The dog will not do what the
dog did the other day. And she's gone and made
that mistake while I'm not at home, because I would
have said, don't do that. You'll have to carry the
dog home.

Speaker 26 (01:14:34):
So what you're telling me is she made it fifteen
minutes and then had to carry it the rest of
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
That's what happens. Dog's dog gets her every single time.
Used for you. In a couple of moments, I am
interested in this weather in Sydney. It was thirty seven.
It's unusual to be thirty seven at this time of year.
It broke some records. Apparently Murray was in the middle
of it. So Murray olds is. But moment's away on
the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:06):
As you seen keen on Chinese fast cars?

Speaker 16 (01:15:08):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
I don't know where you got that from. I'm not
keen on Chinese cars at all. But you say, Steve,
why don't you check out the Yang wang the yang
wang U nine If you haven't seen the yang if
you even remotely into cars, the yang wang U nine,
apart from being the most ridiculously named car in the
history of cars, is actually a quite good looking thing.
But it's only good looking because they stole the design,

(01:15:30):
like they seem to have stolen all the designs of
every car made. But it's worth looking at.

Speaker 26 (01:15:35):
But I mean, that's the car manufacturers in general.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
You're doing that.

Speaker 26 (01:15:39):
You keep talking about how ugly the Chinese cars and
then you keep coming up with ones that aren't. Isn't
that true of every brand of car.

Speaker 11 (01:15:46):
That you know?

Speaker 26 (01:15:47):
There there are ugly Mercedes, There are ugly BMW's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
No, no, no, oh, the BMW's there are there aren't
the ugly Mercedes? I don't think.

Speaker 26 (01:15:54):
What about the A Series?

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Yeah, very good point, Actually, well done. Congratulations Welcome to
the car Cheat. Mike Ford, like Iam, Liam sorry Ford,
Like Liam, Yuki is a Honda driver. It's true. RB's
number two team is usually about rising talent. So might
because Liam and Ahman as in Lindblad Yuki reserve at Aston.
I think that's that's from sewn Sean knows about cars

(01:16:17):
and he speaks from experience, and I think that's where
I sit. Liam's fine, He'll be fine, and Yuki will
be reserve driver for Aston Martin because Honda are going
to go make the car for Aston. Mike Our Papagniel
Times Karen Walker sleepwear co Lab was born in the
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(01:16:38):
was walking past the Papagniel Papernielle make sleepwear and pajamas
and stuff like that. It's very nice. It's walking past
their shop this week and I saw the co Lab
for the first time. I didn't think, I wonder if
that was made in the Corry Club. But interesting to
get the insight that a lot of business is done
in the Kory Club. The boss belongs to the Corrier Club.
He's just been waxing lyrical about how he loves the
Corrier Club because every time flies he gets his bags

(01:17:01):
off first. And I said, is that really true? He
claimed it was true with a straight face. Didn't he
as though that because I happened to belong to the
cry club and my bags never come off first. I
think I'm targeted. Twenty one minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Mary, you're feeling.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
Good, feeling good, mate, but astonished though that you don't
fly in your own jet anymore? What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
I know you seen the price of a f fuel
guess lately. Just ruinous, absolutely ruinous, now I take it.
The heat was it was the came of the wind
and so it was just blowy and missy and hot
and all that stuff.

Speaker 24 (01:17:39):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:17:40):
It was something from If I used the word apocalyptic,
it's probably a little bit strong, but it was. It
was unreal, to be honest. We're sitting here in Sydney
and on Thursday, Wednesday, sorry, it's thirty seven in the
CBD forty degrees in the west, just below the all
time records were October. Here's the thing. In the afternoon,

(01:18:01):
the temperature climbs more than ten degrees in an hour, okay,
and that's pretty dramatic. The winds came in from the west.
The central Australia was just this giant, big sort of
reds big splodge on the map of Australia, sixteen degrees
hotter than the average day for this time of year,
much much hotter in rural centers than the southerly arrived
that night. Went to play golf on Thursday morning. I

(01:18:24):
needed a jumper.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Which is ridiculous, very Unsidney, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
Oh my word, it is. Of course, the lightning strikes,
that gale force winds. Firefighters had their hands full, as
you might expect, but luckily at this stage of the
season there's still a bit of moisture out there, believe
it or not, and they were able to control those
fires pretty quickly. But boy, boy, it sort of it
points to it. If it's going to be like this

(01:18:49):
out of summer, they're going to get absolutely smoked again.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
It's weird, airs, isn't it. I got to say. I mean,
I know, I think you're probably a bit of a
fan of Elbow, but I mean, I look at the
sky now, I look at where he was you and
I about it prior to the election. I look at
where he was then, how much trouble he was, he
won the election and that kind of can you believe
how he won the election?

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
Look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
I mean, he literally can do nothing wrong, can he?

Speaker 7 (01:19:09):
No, he's a golden run, A golden run, I mean.
And there are two things that play here.

Speaker 11 (01:19:15):
One.

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
Alban Easy is nothing if not an absolutely pragmatic and
vastly experienced politician. He's been doing this since university, right,
he's in the sixties now, He's been doing this for
a lifetime. So he's a great politician. Whether he wins
or loses, it doesn't matter. He still has the politics down.
And the other part of that equation, as you and

(01:19:36):
I both know, the opposition here is absolutely pathetic. I mean,
I was just thinking waiting for you to come on.
What's on a time? My local MP was Tony Abbott
is to see him down the surf club right below
my window here. He was down there at the Queen's
Cliff Surf Club. He was a good strong local member
nowheres and graces didn't he pulled a surf patrol like

(01:19:59):
anyone else in the tub went out, you know, on
a on a fire truck. He was the opposition leader
from hell for governments as the tax, that's the witch
going to stop the boats, A poor old Susan Lee.
Anyone in that opposition that we have today is not
fit to tye Tony Abbot's boot lace. I mean, Kevin
Rudd gets a bit of a backhander from Trump. Lighthearted.

(01:20:22):
I mean, if anyone saw that news conference in the
in the US Cabinet room, it wasn't Trump being mean
and nasty to Kevin Rud. He was having a joke.
And yet the opposition leader he had jumped all over
it all. Kevin rubbed. You know, he's the butt of
the presidential jokes. He's got to be sacked. He's got
to be recalled. Don't be silly, God damn it, don't
be daft. Just praise the deal, say geehere's Australia has

(01:20:45):
done pretty well out of this and move on.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Yeah what I'd like to see. I mean, I don't
know how much you follow New Zealand politics, but I
look at labor late labors. Labor as an entity is
very electable and we've seen it all over the world
hawk particularly Blair centrist labor parties are actually very successful
and this current bloke, Elbow, is a very good example
of that. And we've just got this left leaning socialist
nonsense here. And if they can only look to Elbow

(01:21:10):
and go yes, I mean you look at Elbow where
he came from. The guys as communist as they come.
But he's not an idiot, and he knows how to
play the game, and he knows how to present to
people a picture and a series of ideas that they
can actually elect and vote for. And what the New
Zealand Labor Government and Labor Party needs is a bit
more Elbow and a bit less of what they've currently got.

Speaker 7 (01:21:29):
I mean Albans he's been I've been critical of Elban
easy because he hasn't got the guts to take on
the reform that that has to be done yesterday. Tax
reform the absolute top priority. We cannot keep whacking people
with ever higher levels of personal income tact. You have
to broaden the GST and reduce that individual burden. But
he hasn't got the ticker for it. I say, he says, well,

(01:21:51):
hang on, I didn't go to the election with that. No,
I did not say that before the elections. So I'm
not going to have.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Elected if he said that. I mean, that's that's where
a retail politician does, isn't it. The retail apologian gives
people what they want to hear, basically dead right spot
on the rare earth thing. I've become fascinated with the
rare earth because of the Chinese situation. But you guys
one had them, and my understanding is that you're not
far off actually being able to refine them. And if
you could refine them and put them into the world,

(01:22:19):
you would have more money than you know what to
do with.

Speaker 7 (01:22:21):
Well, that's true, but there's a lot of butts involved here,
a principle among them. We don't actually have any minds
right now. We've got some scratchings around the surface. And
you know, Australia is blessed with the geology of Australia
is unbelievably good in terms of the twenty first century economics.
But the Reserve Bank came out on the back of

(01:22:43):
the deal on rare earth being signed between Trump and
Alvin Easy and the Reserve Bank, not known for historyonics,
said well, guess what it takes about ten years to
get a decent mine up and running. And you throw
into that mix the fact that there's no at scale
refining capacity here in Australia. What they'd probably have to
do in the short term is is dig this stuff up,

(01:23:06):
give it a quick polish here and then ship it
off to the United States. But loving ever large in
this mix, the opposition says, you know what, we don't
like Labor's new environmental laws and so we're not going
to support them in the Senate. And this is the
deal to fast track this rare earth and critical minerals' minds.
That puts this deal in danger because basically, what Labour
wants to impose on miners if a minus is I

(01:23:30):
want to dig a bloody great big hole here to
extract rare earths at critical minerals. Okay, that's fine, you
can dig your hole, as long as you've got a
plan to reduce emissions. You have to consider how the
mind will impact the Government of mission reduction target and
you also have to make sure the carbon footprint isn't
going to be too big. Well, hello, I want to
dig a hole on the ground to ship off stuff
that's going to make Australia trillions of dollars, and I

(01:23:52):
have to worry about a wombat. Cut it out.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah ridiculous. All right, mate, you go have a good weekend.
We'll catch on next Friday. Appreciate it. Murray Olds out
of Australian eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Very good news on KIW Saber if you haven't caught
up on this latest quarterly numbers. Default funds average return
about five percent. I suppose that's good. I don't know
why you'd be in kV Saber. If you can in
a a fault fund means you've can shown no entry anyway.
Turned eighteen Kiwi Saber they've seen a five billion dollar
increase over the quarter in terms of value, so that's encouraging.

(01:24:29):
They've got their first one billion dollar de fault fund.
I mean, that's an astonishing amount of money. Your money
in an account that you didn't even pick cause you
don't care if you're in a default fund. Seems weird
to me. I and Zid biggest player in the market
twenty three billion under cover ASB at fourteen point nine
percent of the market. Then you've got Fisher, Milford and
Westpac top five five largest providers have sixty six percent

(01:24:52):
of the assets. Is that a thing that you think about?
Did you realize that? Is it good to have that
much of our QIY saber under a small number of
players eighty eight billion dollars worth they're going to charge
another is interesting? Depends on which way you look at
the numbers. Key We Saber providers will charge more than
one point one billion dollars in fees. So if you're

(01:25:13):
in Keywi Saber, I'm not. But if you're in key
Wei Saber, they're collecting from you one point one billion
dollars in fees and you go, oh my god, no
wonder they're rich. And yet that's only zero zero point
eight two percent of each dollar invested, So that doesn't
seem so bad. So over the last ten years, if
you're an aggressive, you're pulled ten percent. If you're in growth,

(01:25:33):
you've pulled eight point three. This is all on average
with everybody. Of course, if you're in balanced at six
point eight, if you're in moderate, a bidover four. If
you're in conservative three point four. So knowing those numbers
over a ten year period, because that's sort of what
you're supposed to look at decades and decades and just
sort of forget about it. Why would you be in
conservative because you're not getting the return? You go, Oh,
but it's nice and safe, isn't it As opposed to

(01:25:54):
being an aggressive where you pulled down ten percent. Imagine
if you've been an aggressive the whole time you're pulling
ten percent for the last eighteen year is you'd be wealthy.
But anyway, that's where we're at with Kee. We say,
but nine away from.

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(01:27:12):
ahead too, Starbucks. The two independent commissioners have given the
go ahead. But you've got fifteen working days and one
of them will be over the weekend. You might want
to think about that. One hundred and forty eight submissions,
thirty nine and support five neutral. If I was going
to be neutral, I wouldn't submit just just a tip
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(01:27:34):
don't put it out.

Speaker 26 (01:27:35):
It's important that you know I have no strong feelings.
One way or another about watch.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I listen to both these sides quite frankly, I couldn't
kill less. And here's my submission five away from nine.

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Day now allegedly, and I'm always suspicious with anything to
do with Apple, but this is quote easily Apple TV's
most anticipated premiere, a thing called Pluribus. It's quoite again
generating buzz because it's a new series from Vince Gilligan Fence.
He was the creator of Breaking Bed. It's about a

(01:28:12):
woman who is the only unhappy person in a world
full of happiness.

Speaker 20 (01:28:17):
Good morning, Carol?

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Is there anything we could do to cheer you up? Hey, Carol?
We just want you to be happy.

Speaker 12 (01:28:30):
Can I ask a question?

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Certainly?

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
What would you like to know?

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
How do I reverse all this?

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Rest assured, Carol, we will figure out what makes you different?
Figure it out why so you can join us?

Speaker 10 (01:28:44):
What the fun?

Speaker 3 (01:28:46):
We would move heaven on earth to make you happy?
If I ask right now, would you give me a
hand grenade? Yes? What about a bazooka? What about a tank?

Speaker 20 (01:28:57):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
Feel free to move about the cabin, Carol.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Okay, just like where did the buzz come from based
on that, I mean it could be good. I don't know.
Glenn says, it's like the invention of lying, which was
quite good. I saw that and that was quite insane.
Mind you. It had Ricky Gervaise, and I think anything
with Ricky jerves tends to be quite good. This has
got Riya Seahorn.

Speaker 26 (01:29:22):
Yes, so she's the opposite, plays opposite Saul and medical
saw opposite open care.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
I've never heard of her like that artist I've never
heard of before earlier on So don't look at me
like you do? And you never heard of ring A Saul, No,
I never heard.

Speaker 26 (01:29:39):
He's the one who desperately throughout all the seasons tries
to get him to go straight and he just never does.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
He still means nothing again nothing. It's out on Apple
a couple of weeks time seventh from November. You have
a fabulous long weekend. We will rejoin you Tuesday, as always,
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
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