Full Show Podcast: 25 July 2025

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 25th of July, the Government is changing election rules to stop same-day enrolment and banning food and drink within 100 meters of voting stations.  

Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has announced a new measure that would see the cars of court fine evaders clamped or seized.  

Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson Wrap the Week, complete with another development in Mike's lemon and hot water saga. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking
Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate Altogether Better across residential, commercial
and rural news talk sad.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Be devoting changes and whether they're a stitch up and
how drop kicks feel about it all, and you plan
this week end to clamp and seize cars from those
who haven't played their court fines. Nicol of Mainland, willis On,
Butler and adrienall are Tim and Katie after right Richard
Old Steve Price. They round out a slewer hot selling
tasky bound to Friday thirteen pass. No, it's not one
to make that up seven past six. In a way,

(00:33):
I've been thinking it's the sort of response you would
have expected, don't you think. Liam Gallagher back on stage
and seemingly lapping it up on the Oasis Touries in
Manchester this week. He asked about the love birds in
the audience and said, don't worry, we ain't got any
of that cold placed snider, effing camera shit. Doesn't matter
to us who you're mingling with, tingling with, fingling with
none of our effing business now, my gut says the

(00:55):
majority of the audience Indeed, the world are on Liam's side,
not Chris Martin's. This has been the biggest story on
the planet for a couple of weeks. Now it has
crossed barriers, continents, age groups in a way that few
stories do. It's that rear mix of mirth and horror
and carnage. Iman. Yes, it's funny. Yes, you can decipher
the reaction, how they reacted, why they reacted, how dumb
the reaction might have been. But then Whoop's real life jobs, lost,

(01:18):
families and friends and relationships up ended eleven personal upheaval.
We don't and won't know about the very real question.
I would have thought around morals and business. I mean
the business. We're very quick to publicly talk about standards. Now,
he might the bloke the CEO have a clause in
his contract about public activity or behavior. I don't know,
But business and morals, jeez, that's fantastically complicated area. I

(01:39):
would have steered well clear off. What about legal action.
I would have thought they got a sue. I mean, yes,
tickets and venues have warnings about CCTV and filming, But
this wasn't about a crime or publicity. It went a
mile beyond that. It blew up lives, It destroyed things.
What about the mental consequences? How did two unknowns handle
global fame? Robriam, celebrity, attention, notoriety. Call it whatever you

(02:03):
want all at once, and I mean yes, it's easy
to say, of course it is. Well, they shouldn't have
been there, should they? What if they're in love about
to be married? Started fresh as opposed to say him
being a shagger and this is his third fling this year.
Lives are complicated and we have little of any business
passing judgment, or as Liam would say, it's none of
our effing business.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
News of the world in ninety seconds, as you.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Might have heard, one of wrestling's biggest names died a
couple of hours ago. Just a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Hogan's wife, according to TMZ Tonight, rumors that he was
in a coma, stating that his heart was strong as
he recovered from some surgeries, but certainly there have been
some rumors about his declining health in recent weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Good news. They'd never lived to a long old age,
the wrestlers, do they good news. Bad news day for
the Brits. First of all, they've been to free trade
deal with India.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
It is good for consumers because it will bring down
prices in in good Sydney, United Kingdom, like clothes and
shoes and food. It will add about four point eight
billion pounds to the UK economy.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Counterbalancing that is the fact that care industry is on
its k these production numbers have tanked it's terriffs and
also the fact they cocked up the ev bandwagon.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Jaguar are revisiting their electric strategy completely and retooling their
plant in the Midlands area, and Missana doing the.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Same with the Sunderland plants.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
So a lot of retooling work that happens means that
you have to literally have downtime and can't produce cars.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is the war in Gaza still hill, Yes it is.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
He needs special formula, he needs special feeds, and these
heads are literally miles away. They're literally right there at
the border and it's being blockaded by the forests. So
it's intentional, deliberate.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Starvation led to a doctor. Here's a victim.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
The war changed me.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Malnutrition has turned my hair yellow because I lack protein.
And you see here this is how I was before
the war. And for those of you who aren't tuning
up to the office today a new study. It ain't
good for you.

Speaker 9 (04:04):
We know that structure is important, we know that loneliness
is an issue. We know the blurring lines between work
and social activities and family time that all this is problematic.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Finally, UK government, there's like a lot of other the governments,
looking at social media limits for kids. To Technology Secretary
Peter Kyle, he suggested two are per platform cap in
a nighttime or school time curfew, kids would be blocked
from accessing sites they like. The Australians clearly haven't got
a clue as to how the technical and political difficulties
are of such an x. So it will of course

(04:37):
smit to happen. So that is news of the world
and delusion in ninety That deal, by the way, that
Starmer was talking about a moment ago they called it
a landmark moment. It's got to put pressure on us.
I mean, how long does it take us to do
a deal with India. For goodness sake, Americas has got
to deal with India, The UK got to deal with India.
UK cars and whiskey going to be cheaper, and then
textiles and jewelry going to be cheaper.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
To export.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
They reckon it'll create two and a half thousand British jobs.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
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Speaker 2 (05:12):
Good news. South Korea grew. They thought zero point five,
They got zero point six, so that was good. So
they avoided technically a recession that ECB have held at
two percent. Turkey Central Bank they've come to the party.
They've cut from forty six to forty three because they're
grappling with inflation at thirty five point zero five percent.
Fun times fourteen past six Yes bs from deven Country

(05:33):
Management Friday on it, Greg, how are you good? Thanks Mike.
I love the alphabet results. If only to look at
their revenue numbers, just and watch your eyes water. They're incredible,
aren't They's?

Speaker 10 (05:44):
And it's real good news for Italy. In terms of earnings.
Revenue is at fourteen percent for the Google owner ninety
six point four billion. It was actually having two billion
more than expectance. That was pretty good. Need income that
was twenty eight point two billion, That was up nearly
twenty percent from the previous years. So yeah, all the
division's doing pretty well. You look at cloud computing that's
always always gets a lot of focus. So revenue they're

(06:07):
up thirty two percent thirteen point six billion. Managements that
made the bold comment that AI, excuse me, AI was
possibly impacting every part of the business, and last week
they announced that their cloud infrastructure will be used by
open Ai for chet GPT, so they're investing there as
a result. In fact, they're up in capital investments by
ten billion and twenty twenty five to eighty five billion

(06:29):
just to strong demand for cloud. Basically, and AI gained
great guns my AI overviews that' says search product that
now has uput of two billion monthly users across two
hundred countries, and that's up five hundred million over the corner.
Then you've got their Gemini at that has now has
more than four hundred and fifty billion monthly users, and

(06:50):
they reckon their demand for the cloud services is so
high that it now amounts to a backlog of over
one hundred billion dollars. Look but interestingly as well, despite
the liferation of all the various chat botsmen we're getting
thousands a day, it seems the good old fishion search
and advertising units are still doing pretty well. So search
revenue that was up twelve percent fifty four billion. Advertising

(07:11):
revenue that was up ten percent, seventy one point three billion,
and people are still clicking on those YouTube content and
ANZA revenue up thirteen percent nine point eight billion. There
is a sort of a little bit a few things
they are looking at Termsey's anti monopoly decisions that are
during the in the coming weeks. But overall looking pretty
good for the two point three trillion dollar company. Mike

(07:32):
she is at one point three percent, pretty flat year
to eight, but up thirty percent since the April Oese.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
How about Tesler not so good.

Speaker 10 (07:40):
She is down eight percent, so revenues in the automative
division down sixteen percent. Sixteen point seven billion. Sales are
down for the second straight quarter. Vehicle delivery year on
year down fourteen percent through and only four thousand and
then comes down sixteen percent as well, one point two billion.
Lots of sort of head winds I suppose for the company.

(08:02):
So increased in competition of course, particularly from China which
are offering at lower prices. There's the backlash against his
involvement with with Trump and also Doge and the fall
that continues. Obviously that the romance looks like that's well
in truly over but they're ending this seven and a
half thousand EV tax credit at the end of September,
so Mask he said that we probably could have a

(08:23):
few rough quarters. And they've actually penned the impact of
tariffs at three hundred million dollars, two thirds of that
in the automotive business. So how they're dealing with that,
they're sort of juggling the supply chain and doing as
best they can. They're not raising prices, that is something
that must say they wouldn't do, but they are trying to,
I suppose, spruce up their offerings in particularly in terms

(08:44):
of a lot more affordable side. So they've got this
model to so production for the second half. Musk he
still sees the blue sky from robotaxis and the Optimus robots.
These robots might know a long wealth. We won't be
having them sort of helping out in the kitchen anytime soon.
But the Robotaxi is underway in Austin, Texas. They're still
way behind way Moat, but Musk recons they can catch up,

(09:06):
and he said their goal was to have autonomous right
hailing available to half the US population by the.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
End of this year.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
So stay tuned. There she has. We had a rough
time that down twenty five percent year of date and
probably one of the worst performance amongst the media caps. Still,
I suppose might but I hope the musks improved focus
now might help.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Let's see, I.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Just wonder if he produced as much as he talked,
he might have got somewhere IBM that looked good.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Yes, it did look good as well, so the result
was good, but actually was a similar reaction to Tesla.
So she is down eight percent. I suppose the difference
is that IBM has outperformed this year. So these shares
are still up nearly twenty percent years to date, and
you compare it to the S and P five hundred,
which is gained around eight percent, so things are relative there.
So but yeah, Big Blue is its name, delivered really
strong results earnings being expected. They up their forecast of

(09:54):
four year free cash flow revenues up eight percent seventeen billion,
that's around about one percent high. The income that rose
sixteen percent two point two billion, so a good news
story across the division. Software revenue that was up ten percent,
cloud revenues up sixteen percent, Revenues from consulting that was
up three percent and infrastructure revenues up fourteen percent as well.
They did say that while not a major factor, that

(10:17):
trade and geopolitical tangents are prompting a few clients to
move more cautiously, and also government spending constrained, but you're
generally pretty positive. They announced the next generation Z seventeen
main frame computer. That've been buying businesses as well, particularly
in AI. So this consulting firm HEADCOTA and on the
lookout for more deals. AI is Yeah, is a big

(10:37):
theme again, Mike. So their generative AI book since inception
stands at seven point five billion, so that's written from
six billion April, so that's going pre well. They see
free cash flow over the year thirty billion and revenues
up at least five percent, so yeah, a good news
story there, Eve though the sheds were.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Lower today, right, Oh hit me?

Speaker 10 (10:59):
Okay, doubt We're down point four percent forty four eight
one six, but sm P five hundred that'll be a
new record up point three percent sixty three seven four.
Na's deck also new record up point four percent forty
one hundred. The UK, they liked that India trade deal
news up point nine percent.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Stocks fifty. They liked THECV.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
Holding on rates and also the prospect of a deal
of the US SO that was up point two percent.
Nickel are still loving that deal with the us SO
up another one point six percent, forty one eight two
six A six two hundred down point three percent eight
seven zero nine, zy dix fifty up point one per cent,
twelve eighth five gold with down nineteen dollars three three
six eight, Oil up twenty one cents, sixty five spot

(11:41):
forty six and in the currency is down point one
percent against the US is the Kiwi sixty point four
flat ants iz ninety one point five British pound forty
four point seven plus point four percent, and against the
Japanese en we're point two percent high eighty eight point seven.
And let's all eyes on the FED. And that first
visit by six mister Trump.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh mate, go well, see you Monday. Greg Smith, Devon
Funds Management, Oscar Palmer, who are really called Land Corp,
are there forecasting now a record profit. You know why.
It's dairy, it's red meat, all that stuff. They're the
country's largest farmer. Basically, they're thinking somewhere between. It's a
huge turnaround, which is good for us the taxpayer. Somewhere
between one nineteen and one twenty two million, three hundred
and sixty thousand hectares from Northland to Southland, one hundred

(12:22):
and twelve dairy, sheep and deer farms, quarter a culture, forestry.
They're into everything and they're making the money and we'll
take that, thank you very much. Six twenty one at
news Talk said, b's bad.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
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Speaker 2 (12:42):
Talks at B Mike, I was at the Oasis concert.
Seventy thousand people agree with Liam and you if you've
happened to have been. They started in Wales, but they've
been a Manchester this week. If you happened to have been,
or you're listening from offshore, you've been off shore and
you've come back home and you happen to have been there,
it seems like a vibe. It seems like a real
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it's called. Paul Thomas Anderson down as Pta of course,
as your director. He's got a whole bunch of Oscar
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(13:29):
by a psychopath. Colonel should create.

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Speaker 14 (13:56):
That's just how the cards were rolled.

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Speaker 12 (13:58):
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Speaker 11 (14:01):
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
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Speaker 3 (14:10):
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Speaker 2 (14:12):
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it baby, love you bart I like movies like that.
DiCaprio is a former revolutionary Sean Penn I love him.
He plays the cop del Toro's in there, as well
as Tiana Taylor. I looked her up. I don't know her.
She seems to have been in some stuff, but not
much anyways. In Cinema's the twenty sixth of September, How's

(14:33):
Nicholas Week? What about Miles? Yesterday? So mikey Sherman of
TV one chases him down the street yesterday he fronts
up for a bit of a presser and some reporter goes.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
How much do you end?

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Do you know what it's like in a supermarket? And
he goes, well, yes, I do because I was there yesterday,
and she goes, yeah, but how much do you earn?
Six million dollars? She said, So he became sort of
the anti hero of the week. Nichola Willis was in
there as well with her I'm going to sort Miles
out meeting which sort of went nowhere and blew up
in her face. So she's come on this morning to
talk about all of that more after the news. In
a couple of moments, Paul Goldsmith's got a big announcement

(15:08):
around the justice area. He's with us after seven thirty News.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
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togs Head be It was a vibe.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Manchester was flooded with Oasis theme merched from VIA's definitely hazy.
The food billboards everywhere. Our aces were amazing on form
with the music and the banter. Everyone at the concert
was in a good mood, no agro walking up, people
singing songs again Richard Ashcroft opening was epic as well.
Thank you for the update. Maxwell and the DOJ are
meeting as we speak. Richard Undeld on that shortly meantime
back here. How about that week in butter Ray and

(15:46):
is it any cheaper? No, it is not. Have we
learned some lessons around pricing in international markets? Might have.
In the midst of all of it was the Finance Minister,
Nikola Willis, who was with us. A good morning. That's
a let down, isn't it. Oh you push the and
letting there we go? Morning Nikola, good morning. Make Did
you overplay your hand?

Speaker 15 (16:05):
No?

Speaker 16 (16:05):
I didn't. I would I would say the media got
very excited. As you know, I've been talking about supermarket
margins and that context. I did confirm that the next
time I was speaking to Fonterra it wasn't issue i'd
talked to them about. Obviously, they're a big food supplier
in New Zealand, so their perspectives on supermarket margins and
competition are of interest to me and I think probably

(16:26):
to most New Zealanders. And in the context of butter
it came up. I did talk to Miles Harrel, the
chief executive, about that, and ultimately I think it's pretty
useful that he has been talking with New Zealanders about
how much global demand there is for this beautiful product.
What did you say that that's bringing you into the world.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Why did you stand that You looked on the tiles
this week as I watched you like you had a
newsy in your handbag and you're going to gun them down.
If there wasn't a good explanation, then you came out went,
oh mean that it isn't international markets.

Speaker 16 (16:59):
No, not at I know, not at all. I was
very clear that commodity prices internationally are the major driver.
I've been saying that consistently for a long time. But
that also I was interested in how Conterra in the
supermarkets divide the costs in the margin at the margin.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
But you know that they know that you know how
they do it because you worked for Fonterra.

Speaker 16 (17:22):
Well, I worked for Fonterra nine years ago. I never
worked a branded part of the business. I never worked
in the branded part of the business. Well, actually, competition
should rightly be a dynamic thing, and you would expect
over a nine year period that pricing behavior between different
supermarkets and different suppliers could change. And in the context
of a very high commodity price, I think it's a

(17:44):
good question to say, well, what does that mean for
margin behavior? I think it is interesting that what we've.

Speaker 14 (17:49):
Had revealed this week is.

Speaker 16 (17:50):
That supermarkets are choosing quite different margins on butter. You've
had some say actually, we're taking a loss on it
at the moment.

Speaker 14 (17:57):
It's pretty clear that.

Speaker 16 (17:58):
With cost cost prices, it would appear loss on it. Well, well, yes,
and wouldn't more of that happen if there was more competition?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
What they'd all lose money. Is that where we're heading
forward see would arguably.

Speaker 16 (18:13):
Distinctive choices make about how they want to get customers
in the door. And what you can see in competitive
markets is that grocery chains do everything they can to
get customers in the door and get volume out of
the door, and then they choose selective products, including staples
like butter or bread or milk, where they choose to
take a loss, so people come in the door and

(18:34):
buy their other products. Who win's out of that?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Look here, here's here's my concern for this overall debate.
We're wasting our time. We've got more important fish to fry.
And I'm watching the news last night with yet another
bunch of myopic New Zealander sitting in mals around the
country going well, why don't we have a domestic price?
And we know why we can't have a domestic price,
but that's all we we bog ourselves down on this stuff,
and it's wasting our time. Butter is the price it

(18:57):
is because it's a success story and we're reaping the
rewards for that, and instead of celebrating it, we're having
stupid meetings explaining nothing.

Speaker 16 (19:06):
Well, look, I do celebrate our successful dairy industry. I also,
as a representative, think that if New Zealanders are really
engaged in an issue, it's not enough to just say
to them, sorry, not an important issue, not going to
talk about it. I think it's good that we've now
had communication about Here's how the global price works, Here's
how's most of the price is formed. Here's what happens

(19:29):
in terms of competition, Here's what you can expect in
terms of the price in future. And politicians do have
a choice. We can say, look, I'm not going to
talk about that. It's not important, but I am not
prepared to dismiss questions from New Zealanders in that way.
I think that they have got more information this week.
And look, I'm with you. A successful dairy industry creates

(19:49):
jobs and better incomes for Kiwis. That is excellent. It's
also the reality. But it is expensive in supermarkets right now.
So people are more interested in commodity pricing and margin
pricing than they've ever been. And I don't think it's
a sin to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Super quick word if you would on Adrian or why
did you make it such a big deal? Guy's self
importantly packed a big sad at a couple of meetings,
one of which was with you, why didn't you say that?

Speaker 11 (20:15):
Well, all I have said is that I.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Know what you've said, but what you should have said
is the god that myself importantly stormed in my office
yelled a bit at me and then quickly had to
write a letter and then he quit.

Speaker 16 (20:27):
Well, my perspective on it has been he was employed
by the Reserve Bank, they undertook employment discussions with him,
he resigned. Not for me to get into the middle
of that employment relationship and start speculating and.

Speaker 14 (20:41):
Using that have gone on.

Speaker 16 (20:44):
Well, whether or not that was relevant to his resignation,
Well was the Reserve Bank. Well, that's a matter for
the Reserve Bank and not a matter for me to
speculate on. Wherever I have been able to be candid,
I have been, But you've got to remember there's two
things I have to protect here. One independence of the
Reserve Bank and their role as an employer. Two, I

(21:05):
shouldn't be the one giving rise to potential legal financial
risk to the New Zealand taxpayer. As much as possible,
I think it's right for me to stay out of it.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
All right, fair enough, you have a good weekend. Appreciate
it very much. Nichola willis the Finance and Economic Minister.
It is eighteen to seven.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
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Speaker 2 (21:28):
Mike is a national voter. Can you please ask Nicol
to stop pandering to the lowest common denominator and actually
be proud of the fact that expensive butter, while concerning
to some as a great news story for the New
Zealand economy and our balance of trade, educate people don't
grab a pitchfork with the media. Mike. I don't know
a single dairy farmer isn't happy with Miles and that's
the only measure that counts. He turned Fonterra around and
is worth every dollar. Mike, you need to do a

(21:48):
story on the farm manager of twenty seven years at
Molesworth walking off because he the plans to plant pine
on New Zealand's biggest farm. Another great idea from Palmu.
I'll come back to that in the moment if I
get time.

Speaker 17 (21:59):
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Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Sidside Richard morning, do you mind? Do we know this
meeting's reels it actually happening now as I'm reading or not?

Speaker 18 (22:12):
Well, we know that the number two official from the
Justice Department, Todd Blanche, who also happens to have been
Donald Trump's criminal lawyer, who was seen walking into the
building We don't know what's taking place inside there, but yeah,
there is another strange turn in the Epstein pedophilia scandal.
Of course, there is the indication that officials will interview
Gulaine maxwellsh She is serving a twenty year prison term

(22:33):
for sex trafficking with Jeffrey Epstein, who, of course was
found dead in jail in twenty nineteen. There's all occurring
as the Epstein sag was blown up on Capitol Hill
with demands for the Epstein files to be released.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
Ripert Murdocks Wall Street.

Speaker 18 (22:46):
Journal said Trump was told back in May that his
name is in the Epstein files, but he denied it
when he was asked by a reporter soon after that.
Of course, that doesn't indicate why Trump might be in
the files. The two men were said to be close
pass for some fifteen years while the Epstein abuses were
taking place. Report of Michael Wolfe says he has about
one hundred hours of interviews with Epstein and Mate back

(23:08):
in the day, and says the sex traffick had told
him The reason for the split with Trump was at
a time when a multimillion dollar French Staff Florida mansion
was up for sale.

Speaker 8 (23:18):
Wolf told CNN brought.

Speaker 13 (23:20):
His friend Trump to look at the house and advise
him on moving the swimming pool. Trump went around his
back and overbid him and got the house. Epstein believed
at that time that Trump didn't have the money to
do this, and he started to make noise that Trump
was fronting for someone, in fact, a Russian oligarch. He

(23:45):
believed then that in retribution, Trump went to the police
informed the police about what was going on at Epstein's
house in Palm Beach.

Speaker 18 (23:57):
Jeline Maxwell was found guilty in connection with the sexual
abruse more than two hundred teenage girls and young women.
One of them, Virginia Gufray, says she was sixteen when
Maxwell and Epstein began training her daily on their demands
for pedophilium. Giffrey took her own life in Australia back
in April of this year at age forty one. While
in nineteen ninety four, a fourteen year old girl testified

(24:18):
under oath and the criminal trial of Maxwell. This was
the period when Trump called Epstein a quote unquote terrific guy.
Here's part of what that young girl, Jane testified. Did
you come did they come a time in your life
when you met someone named Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 8 (24:32):
Answer yes.

Speaker 18 (24:33):
Did they come a time in your life when you
had sexual contact with Jeoffrey Epstein? Answer yes? How old
were you when that first happened? Answer fourteen years old.
Question was there anyone else in the room with you
when you had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein when you
were fourteen years old?

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Answer Julane Maxwell.

Speaker 18 (24:50):
Now the Trump Justice Department is meeting with Maxwell, it seems,
with some victims saying she was as bad or worse
than Epstein because of her role in finding and grew
underage girls.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Right Columbia, So is this a precedent two hundred over
three years in the funding flows? Again, what do we
got here?

Speaker 18 (25:08):
Well, it depends what the university. The bosses do at
Columbia University in New York has just agreed to pay
this large show amount of many two hundred and twenty
million bucks US in a deal with the government and
the Trump team to restore federal government funding. The Trump
White House has been at odds with various top flight unis,
including Harvard. Much of this was triggered by pro Palestinian

(25:29):
protest on university campuses Columbia in their settlement today says
Jewish students have experienced painful incidents on campus. They say,
an independent of view. Now we'll serve over the university's responses. Harvard,
of course there are two billion dollar freeze in their
federal funding for research. They argued that this is all
a breach of academic freedom, so that part of the dispute.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
Mike's still playing out.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, have a good weekend. I appreciate it very much.
And Scotus is coming to Trump's party this week. They've
allowed him to fire members of the Consumer Products Safety Commission.
The commission would now lack. They've got three of them
and two are gone, so they don't have a korum basically,
but under it what's important about this. Under existing law,
members can only be removed for neglect of duty or malfeasance.

(26:13):
But Trump went ahead and sacked them anyway. The Supreme
Court back in May allowed them to fire members of
the National Labor Relations Board and also the Merit Systems
Protection Board, And then they said, because of this latest case,
because we did that, you can do this. So essentially
you can fire seemingly anyone who wants ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News
togs haad be.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Are Los Angeles traffic no longer the worst in America.
It's now Washington congestion. The morning and evening rush is
six hours thirty five minutes each day. It's up to
seventy one days a year in traffic. Those numbers I
gave you earlier from the UK. Car manufacturing in the
UK it's shocking lowest level since nineteen fifty three. Outputs
down seven point three percent. They've closed Vauxel's loot and plant,

(26:59):
the Van Plant. Van action in Britain's down forty five percent.

Speaker 14 (27:02):
And a lot of.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
People talk about the tariffs. The tariffs are real, of course,
but they don't think now, even with the reduction of
Taris's tariffs, we're in at twenty seven and a half percent.
They're now down to ten percent. They came in thirtieth
of Virginne. They don't think they can get back to
where they were. But the interesting thing they were talking
about the retooling the factory. So it's not just the tariffs.
It's all those clowns who just bought on the government
policy and went, oh, let's retool the factory and let's

(27:24):
make evs forever. And suddenly they've worked out that's not
going to happen. So they've got to retool their factories again.
All the stuff they put in they got to take out.
It's insane. Five minutes away from seven while.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
The ins and the ouse, it's the fizz with business fiber.
Take your business productivity to the next level, which is
before I.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Get to Jaguar. By the way, there's a Stuning story
out this morning. They've got this car coming up later
this year. It's incredible looking. It's an amazing looking car.
But they're expecting to lose They're rejigging their entire way
of doing business and the marketing of their product. They're
expecting to lose eighty five percent of their current customer base. Risk,
isn't it. That is a big ballsy call on their part.

(28:02):
Now I'll come back to that. Where was I speaking
of cars? Here we go, Lutnick Howard. So GM Ford
and Stilantis they're against the Japanese deal that God announced
this week because fifteen percent for auto imports but in
Japan fifteen one five. But if you're Stillantis or Ford
or whatever, where you get your pass from, you bring
them through Canada and Mexico. Well, what's the tariffare twenty
five could go up to thirty or thirty five percent

(28:24):
according to Trump, So they go, well, hold on the
Policy Council, the American Automotive Policy Council. Any deal that
charges a lower tariff for Japanese imports with virtually no
US content than the tariff and post for North American
built vehicles with the high US content is a bad
deal for the US, is it? Yes, it is GM
one point eight two million dollar hit. One point eight
two billion dollar hit so far on tariffs. That's GM

(28:46):
Stillantas said it's going to be five billion. So Lutnik
was asked about all of that.

Speaker 19 (28:51):
Oh my god, that just sounds silly. I mean, come on,
you know, fifteen percent by the Japanese. Okay, it's not
as good as twenty five percent. When your competitor goes
from twenty five percent against them to fifteen percent against.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Them, I guess you're a little bummed out. But come on, there's.

Speaker 19 (29:07):
No tariff if you build it in America and they're
being fifteen percent. I'm telling you, the American nnufactured I
spoke to the CEOs this morning.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
They are cool with it.

Speaker 19 (29:18):
They were just you know, they're prn't people. We're just
sort of gimming up. Oh we're not as happy.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
As we used to be. Right, So they've got twenty five.
The Japanese have got fifteen, but they're cool with it.
He's an idiot. Anyway, back to Jaguar. So the car
they've got is the Type zero zero or the Type
double zero. It's going to be up before the end
of the year. If you haven't seen it, look at
the pictures. It is a fantastic looking car. It's an

(29:44):
ev It turned up at the Paris Fashion Week or
some other fashion week relatively recently, and it really is
a beautiful looking vehicle. It's going to be one hundred
and sixty hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's the market
you're into. But to say that eighty five percent of
your customer base is not going to be coming back
to the Jaguar Mo. It's not like your dad's Jag
is the line they're using. It's not like your Dad's
yet that it's either going to be a disaster or

(30:07):
is going to be one of the most brilliant business
and marketing and branding moves of the modern age. So
we watch and wait for the great deal of interest.
So they're changing the rules around elections. You can't have
a hot dog and you can't enroll later. Is this good?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
More shortly used opinion and everything in between?

Speaker 6 (30:25):
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Speaker 1 (30:27):
With the land Rover Discovery never Stop discovering us tog dad.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
B falling seven past seven. Some significant electoral reform to
be unveiled before we vote next time, the major one
being you need to be enrolled thirteen days before the election.
Andrew get us electoral law expert of course at a
Tiger Uni is with us Andrew morning, Yeah, good morning mate.
Is this an admission over our lack of administrative ability
or the slackness of voters?

Speaker 20 (30:50):
A little bit of both. So if someone isn't on
the printed electoral role come election time, they have to
cast what's called a special vote, and the number of
special votes have been increasing markedly over recent elections. Those
special votes take a lot longer to process, and so
that means it's taking longer to actually get a final

(31:12):
election result. So a combination of all of that has
led the government to say, well, we'll cut the number
of special votes by essentially stopping a whole lot of
people who aren't on the elector role from being able
to vote at all. That will reduce the number of
special votes. It'll make it quicker to get an election result.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Right, anything else in there that's unusual, I mean this
food thing. Has that been a major.

Speaker 20 (31:33):
Well it really goes back to money Maria at the
last election, where there were concerns raised about Departu Mare's involvement,
et cetera. So again the government has said, Look, the
easiest and quicker solution for us is just to stop
people being able to give out food. I you know,
I don't know how much it happens anyway, but it's
going to take away the ability to turn opinion polling

(31:56):
places of the kind of places of celebration. You just
have to go there, vote, go away. No one's allowed
to make a deal of it.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Actually, you're the man who can answer this question. If
the Serious Fraud Office found something gargantuan at that election
and there was fraud galore, do we have a mechanism
in this country to have a re election?

Speaker 20 (32:13):
No?

Speaker 21 (32:14):
Not?

Speaker 20 (32:14):
Now, Wow, you could only have an election petition, which
is where you challenge an election thirty days after the
election is over. So you could argue that, but again,
the politicians who've made the rules have said that they
want a very short window in which their elections can
be challenged. If you don't challenge within thirty days, that's it.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Now, your line about this favoring the right as opposed
to the left, is there demonstrative proof on that?

Speaker 20 (32:43):
Well, if you just look at the special vote results.
Right after special votes are counted, they always produce more
seats for the left. I mean, that's just a fat
This will result in fewer special votes that you know,
it's just a fact. Whether or not it's causing the change,
that's more debatable. I really doubt it in but you know,

(33:05):
it's a nice change that helps the right, so of
course you know they're going to quite like it.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
All right, nice to talk to you. Have a good weekend,
Andrew get as electoral law expert. It's coming up ten
minutes past seven, Pascal, you research for you into our
Pelliative care system. So we've slipped in terms of an
international ranking, gone from third to thirteenth. We have less
than a third of the recommended number of pelliative specialists
per capita and now. Doctor Catherine Desuser is the author
of this work and also the chair of the Australian
New Zealand Society Appelliative Medicine. And as with us, Catherine.

Speaker 22 (33:31):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Is it merely about workers to patients in the ratio?
Is there more to it than that?

Speaker 22 (33:38):
It's more to it than that. That's really important that
we don't have enough specialists despite having ample opportunity to
chain them and lots of space to do so, we
just don't have the funding to do it. But it's
also the funding and policy the resourcing of our parliative
care team. So compare it to maternity at the other
end of life, you'd expect a full funded maternity system,

(33:59):
but four people who are dying is often provided by
NGOs with government funding in the background, maybe about fifty percent.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Three to thirteen and slipping further in the future. Do
you think or we don't know?

Speaker 22 (34:13):
Yes, I think so. Other countries have taken huge strides
in improving their palative care services. But as our country
is getting older, the number of people dying is going
to double in the next thirty years. So if we
don't take action fast to get the care in that
people need. Are already struggling, health services are going to
struggle even more and fall apart.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Anyone know about this and doing anything about it.

Speaker 22 (34:35):
There's a bill in the Biscuit Tin putting palative care
as a human right and it should be something that's
mandatory to provide. But you never know when something's going
to come out as a biscuit tin in politics. It
would be great to have this as a policy with
government and a plan for provision of the care, proper
resourcing so that we don't walk into this huge numbers

(34:56):
of increased death without planning of how we're going to
provide to care that they.

Speaker 20 (35:00):
Deserve and they need.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I appreciate your insights to Catherine de Suza, Doctor Catherine
desuz a chair of the Australian New Zealand Society A
Palliative Medicine eleven past seven past as regards the business
of the manager quitting twenty seven years in Moldsworth Station.
If it is about we mention it briefly, so if
you're not up on the story. So the bloke he's
been running the place for years, he suddenly quit and
there's a lot of people going why it seems to

(35:23):
be around pines. Now, let me just put this out
to you. Molesworth is massive. It's huge. If they've decided
that they want to plant a few pine trees on there,
and he's decided for personal reasons that this is all
a pile of climate change crap and I'm off, then
it's not really a story, isn't it, Because he's entitled
to his own view and you can't argue and will

(35:44):
tell me that Molesworth doesn't have room for a few
pine trees? Am I wrong? On that? Very uplifting survey
yesterday though, I must tell you about increasing number of
graduate school they want to be their own people. They
want to set up their own business. And I find
this invigorating and exciting. And the fewer people work for
other people in this country, the better off we're going
to be. Skills Group have done the survey. Most common

(36:04):
long term ambition when you talk to graduates is I
want to be my own person. Over forty percent want
to start their own business. Seven percent want to do
it immediately after graduation. That's exciting. There were twelve hundred
people they talk to they want to move into beauty
and health and trades and community services. There are six
hundred thousand small businesses in this country, which for a

(36:25):
country of only five and a half million people is
not bad going. And the more we support our small
business as far as I can work out, the better.
Thirteen past seven The Like.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
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Speaker 8 (36:37):
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Speaker 2 (36:39):
Plot Thickens. Mike Stewart Smith advised me this week by
email he's not aware of a plan to plant planes
on Molesworth. A lot of people saying it's wilding pines
and you can't control them one hundred and eighty thousand hectares.
I mean, really, honestly, what time is it? Sixteen minutes
past seven? So where are we at? The old civil
contracting world. Been a big week of announcements. Of course,
six billion dollars worth of projects are up and running

(37:00):
before the end of the year. But then we got
the latest industry survey. The show is seventy three percent
saying the lack of work is the most pressing issue.
Ellen Pollard's the CEO of Civil Contractors in New Zealand
And is will us Ellen? Very good Friday morning to.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
You Morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So the seventy three percent in your survey that wouldn't
have taken in these six billion dollars we're set to
go now announcement, would.

Speaker 23 (37:19):
It No, not necessarily, that was obviously a very recent announcement.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, would it change the view?

Speaker 23 (37:26):
I don't think so. I think if you look at
the survey, while seventy three percent of knowledge that work
workfloads are a challenge, there are still some optimism medium
to long term. So it's a matter of how do
we get through the short term hiatus with experience for
the last year or so.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, but when you talk about the hiatus, the hiatus
is ending. If you've got six billion dollars worth work
coming between now and Christmas, it's already the end of July,
that's a lot of work, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (37:52):
It's a fair bit of work. Not all about a
civil work, of course, a lot of it's vertical construction
as well, hospitals and so on. But you know, we've
got an industry from the very far north to the
very deep South, and so it's great having a start
of some of these products come to market, but we
do need a lot more work to feed the industry.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
There is this tension. I don't know how many interviews
I've done over the years where people say there's not
enough work, there's not enough pipeline, we need more pipeline.
How much work do you need? Worth how much over
what period of time for you to go tell you
what things are rosy?

Speaker 23 (38:21):
Yeah, I can't put a figure on obviously, but what
we've got to see is a trend. And the trend
is the produce coming to market quicker than they have
been historically.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Okay, I appreciate your time. Ellen Pola, who's the CEO
of the civil contractors. I cannot tell you how excited
I am to get to the country today because I
too am into infrastructure because I have been involved in
high drama at my place. I saved my place from
going under. I was like Noah, and my house was

(38:50):
the ark, and I had my ten liter buckets out
and my pails, and I was humping ten leaders at
a time, ten leaders at a time as the water
rose and it was coming towards my house, and I thought,
what's going on here? That was my holiday, by the way,
It's why I didn't like my holiday, because I basically
was in the rescue search and rescue operation. So I
got some people around. Jonesy was one of them, and

(39:10):
Jonesy said, tell you what you need, some industrial strength infrastructure.
And so I've been putting industrial strength infrastructure into my
property this week, and I'm going to be seeing it laying.
I've seen photos this week and the work they've done.
But we're talking drainage, we're talking piping, we're talking rain
as hard as you want and it won't touch the
Siit's infrastructure. It is so exciting. I remember when I

(39:33):
bought my first house and one of the first things
I had to do was put spouting on, and I thought,
how depressing is this? Spouting is so boring? You spend
all that money. I'd rather buy a doorknob, because at
least on a doorknob, people are going to go around
and go jeez, and like your doorknob. But they're never
going to go seeing your spouting. They never do that,
the same way that they never going to go, geeh,
look at the size of your drain They don't do that.

(39:56):
But I'll tell you what, as life has passed me
by and time has ticked over, I could not be
more excited to look at my drain today. In fact,
not only a drain. I've got civil drains. I think
I've put three in. I'm not sure how many are
put in. I think I might have put three drains
in with a lot of piping in a lot.

Speaker 12 (40:11):
I just had to know where one drain stops.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
That couldn't agree with him, But I mean, all I
know is the trucks, this concrete, there's infrastructure. If I
was part of the civil contractors, I would have gone
my pipeline. My pipeline has never been more full.

Speaker 12 (40:27):
I'm starting to feel a bit uncomfortable with your word choice.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Quick care text from Mark Mitchell. Mike is both the
police and Emergency Management Minister, I fully support the use
of our notification system to try and locate an extremely
vulnerable elderly lady. This is in the news this morning,
who in the middle of winter would have been cold,
confused and scared. It was the right thing to do.
The fact the community mobilized, and this is the main point,
of course, the fact the community mobilized and found her

(40:50):
is the key. WII way, He's right, isn't he? Seven twenty.

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Harvey Norman Paski now seven twenty three. Time now to
Mark the week, little piece of news and current events
that's more appealing than coke, even if it is now
made with cane sugar. Trump seven.

Speaker 21 (41:57):
You know when we called Hillary Clinton and they said,
you know what, but let's not let's not go too
far here.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Ky Ways had a significantly positive week. Scotus a sacking
people that's gone his way, deals with Indonesia, the Philippines
and Japan. Australia's flipped on beef. Only downside he's stuck
in the Epstein files and he's got cankles. Adrian or two.

Speaker 24 (42:16):
Yeah, that's a statement.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Looks like the fact you thought he was a bit
party and self important turned out to be true. Nicola
Mainland willis for the old. I'm going to teach him
a thing or two trick blew up in her face
Nceea six. We'll wait for the actual detail, but the
idea that the joke that is the NCEEA gets blown
up is no bad thing. Six billion six infrastructure that

(42:42):
is actually happening. Praise the Lord, Bring it on more, please,
everyone must go. Seven had a target more than Mitts target.
It's a win. We like wins. Go tourism. Scotti Scheffler
seven for a bloke who was wondering what it was
all about before the first round. That wasn't a bad
weekend of pondering, was it PLA six? That's because it
was lower than they thought. But but it still doesn't

(43:04):
address the problem that the RB aren't doing what they
need to do to father joint up netball six because
they woke up and changed that dumb rule about you know,
players going overseas. But Decanacio then goes and goes, by
the way, I'm not here next year, and they've got
no broadcast deal and teams are openly talking about the
future of the game. Colbert seven, The defense was, but
he's number one. But the reality of being number one,

(43:25):
it only counts if you're making money. He wasn't. The
helipad appeal one. This country is too full of time wasters.
We had a hearing. Everyone had their say, someone won,
someone didn't. That's life. Sky TV eight. Small bag of
lollies for a dollar, that's good enough, far less a
whole teley station. Liam Gallagher eight summed it up nicely.

(43:48):
It's none of our effing business. That is the week
copies on the website and yes, for all those asking
the guides have produced to marking the week badge, and
you have to be witty, insightful and funny put a
lot of random numbers around it. I mean, how hard
can it be? Hosking, Mike. I'm a health planner X
nurse and designed hospitals for years. Knowing the infrastructure pipes
are sized, correctly installed them, working behind the scenes gives

(44:10):
me pure joy. See another way, you should see the
size of my pipes.

Speaker 12 (44:16):
Can you please stop saying that?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
That's what I'm saying. I just say, James, he's putting
some pipes. He says, you look at the size of
my pipes. Mike. The reporter asking Myles Hurrel how much
he was paid represents all that's wrong with the media.
Could not agree more. I apologize in advance of I've
got the wrong person, But I think it was Donno
Marie Lever and Dono Marie Lever used to work for
us for a little bit's work for tavians E for years,

(44:38):
and I know Dono Marie and she's a very nice person.
So if it was her, eyes a little bit disappointed.
If it wasn't her, I apologize because that would mean
that she's the person I thought she was not the
person that turned up on the television anyway, point being Miles.
And this is where everyone misses the point what Miles earns.
First of all, Miles, you're doing what he earns because
he's brilliant and he's turned Fonterra around and Fonterra's making
a shedloaded over for this country. Second of all, Miles,

(44:59):
and everyone seems to forgot, Miles is not personally responsible
for setting the butter price. Miles is not the butters are.
Miles is not in charge of a public company. Fonterra
is owned by farmers, not by the wider public. Miles
is not a publicly elected official. Miles has not committed
a crime. Miles has done nothing but be good at
his job, and for that he's become some sort of

(45:20):
wacky dairy villain this week, as people largely in the
media cannot get their head around the simple calculation that
if you produce something the world wants, the world might
pay you quite a bit of money for it.

Speaker 12 (45:33):
So he's not just going to donate some of the
six million backs. It's not fifty cents off a block
of batter for everyone, I.

Speaker 23 (45:38):
Know what it is.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Paul Goldsmith I'll tell you what, I got a bone
to pick with him. I was watching question Time yesterday
and I was personally offended. And we'll have to deal
with that.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
A couple of n.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
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Speaker 2 (46:03):
Togs Head been well three minutes ways from Tim Pavy
after I been a Friday. Of course, meantime, the government
to at last has decided to move against those who
don't pay their court fines. New technology is going to
scan number of plates have parked cars and we'll claim
pause seize those whip unpaid fines. Going to be trial
there's on this weekend. Will include police checkpoints. The Justice
Minister Paul Goldsmith has with us on this very good

(46:24):
morning to you. Good morning. Let's deal with us first.
The technology is that new. Who's got it and how
they're using it?

Speaker 25 (46:31):
Well, it's the court bailiffs who have it, and so
they'll be alongside the police at checkpoints from tonight in
some places and scanning things. And you haven't paid your fine,
you better get yourself an uber or something like that
to get home, because your car can be clamped. And
you know, we've talked to you in the past about
how frustrating it is that people get fines in court
reparations they don't pay them, they paid two dollars a week,

(46:53):
or they don't pay them at all, and we needed
some more rigor in the system, and this is part
of that.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Be clamped or will be clamped.

Speaker 25 (47:02):
Well that's a judgment for the bailiff at any time,
but yes, they'll be clamping them all, tow it away
and taken off.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
When you say scan, is it like a scanner at
the supermarket, I do, yeah, to scan the r So
go to a computer system and it'll go there's Bob
and he owes US three two hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 25 (47:17):
Yep, and then bring out the clamp.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Okay, simple as that. What are you going to do
with the cars?

Speaker 25 (47:21):
Well, ultimately they can be sold or they can be
held on to to people pay their fines.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Do you think there will be a lot of cars
actually clamped? In other words, will this be affected?

Speaker 25 (47:29):
Well, I hope there is, because of the message needs
to get through that you know, the rest of the
country is sick of people not paying their fines and
not dealing with the consequences of the things that they've done.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
How many people are we dealing with? Is it like crime?
Generally it's a small group of the same people over
and over.

Speaker 25 (47:47):
I don't have the exact figure, but there are a
lot of Look, there's more than one hundreds of millions
of one hundred million of unpaid fines. There's a lot
of money there that needs to be collected.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Okay. The other matter is, of course, this morning, this
business of electoral reform. The most controversial bit I suppose
is that you can't enroll on the day anymore, which
is a shame, isn't it.

Speaker 25 (48:07):
Well, look, in a perfect world that would be easy,
but it isn't that. You might recall that we used
to have the final outcome of elections two weeks after
the election date. Then it was three weeks last time.
All my advice is that we're going to even struggle
to get that. It might be into four weeks. And
if you're waiting for that long to actually find out
the final result before you start the coalitions, there's a

(48:27):
lot of uncertainty and the system is under an enormous
pressure because if people enroll on election day, then that
enrollment has to be checked before the final votes are counted.
It's all complicated. We don't think it's at all unreasonable.
In other countries they do it. They just have a
deadline before voting start and you've got to be enrolled.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Is there any move anywhere at high levels to move
us more towards tech or we're so scared of tech
that it wouldn't work on the day that we've given
up on that.

Speaker 25 (48:54):
I've encouraged the Electoral Commission to start working very much
quickly on vote counting, chronic vote counting.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
That's first step.

Speaker 25 (49:02):
Actually, the electronic voting has lots of security sort of
issues around it as well. I don't think we're ready
to do that, but I think we do need to
make greater use of technology.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Why I Well like Germany because when the polls closed
in Germany, we've ever seen a German election at six o'clock.
At six o one, they give you the result. Well,
the Germans are very efficient. It's a very good question.

Speaker 25 (49:21):
And we've got a system that's a very sort of
old fashioned and there's a lot of work to be
done to turn it around, and so the starting point
is to take a little bit of pressure off by
making these changes. And there's a whole lot of other things.
I mean that the law requires them to send letters
out of vast volumes and things of that at enormous costs,
and so we're changing that so you can send emails.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
So Andrew Getters was on and he claims it's a
fact that left wing voters are the more disorganized of us,
and therefore the late thing's going to break your way.
Do you accept that in any way or not?

Speaker 25 (49:49):
Well, look, it's impossible to tell because people will change
their behavior at the moment they've been told doesn't matter,
you don't need to enroll. You can just rock up
and vote and you can enroll yourself at that time.
We're going to send a different message now, which is
if you want to vote, you need to get enrolled.
And people will change their behavior. And I'm sure if
a party was to go out and say that our
voters are uniquely incapable of getting enrolled, well that's a

(50:10):
very strange way to treat your voters.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
The food thing is that was that a major consume
within the government drink and all that.

Speaker 25 (50:16):
Well, I mean, look that there were a couple of
examples where it was pretty messy, and we want to
be very clear that we can't have treating. We can't
have people offering incentives to come and vote.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Right, I haven't going to get us gave us a
decent answer to it. But this business comes out of
Timmockey mcarue. Of course, if the Serious Fraud Office come
back and they find something, you know, really bad that
has happened there, we don't appear to have a law
in this country that allows the result to be revisited. So,
in other words, you can steal an election and then

(50:46):
nothing happens to you.

Speaker 25 (50:47):
Well, well, no, there is that could have had a
formal recounter or a there's.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Step that lay handed. But days look at where the
investigation is. Well yeah, but I mean, so say they
find something really bad, we don't have a mechanism in
this country. Say they stole the election and we know that, yes,
and that's what they find, and the charges are laid
and it's off to the court. You can't do anything
about fixing that. That's the weirdest thing in the world. Well,

(51:14):
I suppose you've got to have some certainty and things
move on. But it's a fair point thirty days as
an artificial time frame, and we could argue about that.
Right now, what about yesterday? What do you want to
tell me about yesterday? What happened yesterday? Well, you're in
the house and I was watching you, yes, and you
were asked questions. Now what happened was interesting for people

(51:36):
who didn't watch the house, and I do You said,
quote unquote Paul Goldsmith that you listen to Morning and
Report every morning and you find it in what was
your word, and highly motivational, highly motivational. Now the product, now,
there's nothing right. Personal choice is fine. You can listen
to what you do. That doesn't say I don't listen.

Speaker 12 (51:52):
To you from it.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
No, don't try and pull your way out of this.
So you said highly motivational and everyone burst out laughing.
Now did they start laughing because of course that's fastical,
or do they burst out laughing because you're an unusual
person who finds it motivational?

Speaker 25 (52:07):
Well, now, I remember telling Guy and Esmond at once
I listened in to him and I listened only for
a short time, and I get angry, and that gets
me you motivated for the day, And that was that.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
It was a cheap shot. And look.

Speaker 25 (52:20):
The media and I think all told, we're well served
by the media in New Zealand, and I appreciate the work.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
That you do, Okay, particularly well served by some more
than others.

Speaker 25 (52:27):
Though well, there's no question that you're a highly successful show.
That's show I was talking about, mate.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
The people.

Speaker 25 (52:34):
The people vote with their feet, don't they. So that's
that's where how it works.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Nice to see you have a good weekend, just as
Minister Paul Goldsmith seventeen away from.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
It the Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks.

Speaker 8 (52:49):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Mike, it's so easy to enroll the boat. Some people
are just useless and couldn't manage to piss up in
a brewery. That's why I think, broadly speaking, it's not
remotely controversial at the end of the day, because that's
your argument. Can you both if you want to vote, yes,
you can. There's no excuse. Am I the only one
who finds it interesting that we've clearly discovered there is
no law. So for example, the Tammicky Makara, the Tash
Camp twist makes it different again. But if the Serious

(53:16):
Fraud Office come back with their report lay charges, and
it works its way through the judicial process and people
end up getting fined or in jail or whatever the
case may be. In other words, of the election was
some sort of fraud or criminal activity, you would then
have an MP who was elected under circumstances that will
have been found illegal, wouldn't you, And yet we had nothing,

(53:39):
no way of doing anything about that. It's the weirdest
thing in the world, Mike. Is the drainage to future
proof for the helipad? Steve, It's a very good question.
One of the things I know about living in the country.
You don't actually need a helipad to land a helicopter
on your property, which I discovered, funnily enough when I
went to buy Noel Edmund's house. So Noel Edmunds was
down the road and he had a house, and we

(54:00):
went and looked at it, and it was an interesting house,
and I thought, I reckon I could live here. Apart
from anything, he had a couple of things. I don't
think I'm speaking out school because it was on the market.
And he's since moved to Nelson and he's on British
television again, and he's a hell of a nice guy,
Nold Edmonds. He's probably one of the best things that's
happened to this country for a very long period of time,

(54:22):
as a guy who came to New Zealand and fell
in love with it and stayed in his investor as
far as I can work out, A shedloaded though in
the top half of the south, isn't it anyway before.

Speaker 12 (54:28):
Foreign buys, Yeah, well over here and stealing taking all
our lands there and investing.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Anyway, he had this house and it was for sale,
and we went and had a look at it. And
the first thing you had, which I thought was really cool,
was he had and I don't have it, so I
got jelly is. When you drive up to the gate,
he had a system whereby it recognized your number plate
and if you had the right number plate, the gate
would open for you. And I thought this is cool.

(54:57):
So I thought this is a cool house that alone
I would have gone.

Speaker 12 (55:00):
Then if you had unpaid court fines, then it would
immediately clamp you.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
It would clamp your car and wouldn't let you in
the gate anyway. So I was looking at this house
and they went the age I went, and over there,
of course was a helipad, and I went, oh, that
looks nice, and there was there was a helipad, and
he said, and it can take sixty thousand tons, and
I thought, jeez, that's a lot of helicopter Anyway, the
point being is I looked into this, and you don't
need a helipad because the moment you want a helipad,
and I think this is a bit of an issue

(55:24):
for some people at the moment, the moment you want
a helipad, you involve official them. And if I can
offer you just one piece of advice, never get official
them involved in your life because all they do is
cause trouble.

Speaker 12 (55:37):
What about if you just put in a tennis court
or a basketball court?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
That was what you can't see listeners are the inverted
commas that I thought you can hear them, though I
think you can probably hear them. I think that's an
interesting question. I'm thinking currently of putting in a pedal court,
come helicopter landing pad.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Turn away from eight the mic Hosking Breakfast with the
Landrover Discovery News tomad b.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I've got to mention Paul Goldsmith was in shock when
he walked into the studio, and so he goes, what
are you eating in that really kind of I don't
condone it kind of way, what are you eating? And
I said, it's my Mediterranean breakfast of girkins, artichokes, radishes, olives,
and tomatoes. He seemed very unimpressed. Speaking of food, still

(56:30):
milk processing factories bursting at the seams. Record collection of
milk solids last month. It's eighteen percent up on the
same time last year. My point being, if you think
it can't get any better, it is twelve and a
half percent higher and on the five year average. June's
collection off to a flying start. Two hundred and sixty
one thousand tons of milk collected in June. That's a

(56:51):
record this month. Milk supply also expected to be up
to ten percent. Got massive past your growth. I tell
you that's for nothing.

Speaker 12 (56:58):
We've had a thing going to make the cheaper.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
No good point. This was part of the article I
was reading. They were talking to an expert and they
asked that question. They asked them how much do you earn?
Do you price? And can I chase you down the
street asking questions? But once they've done that, because they
worked out it wasn't Miles hurrele or a politician. It
was just a person in an office. They said, do
you think this will make the price of butter cheaper?
And they said no, because what's happening is in the

(57:22):
northern Hemisphere they got drought. They've got grain production problems,
which then leads to lack of feed for cattle, which
leads to lack of milk production. I told you about
America earlier on this week. They've got drought. They've got
herd size as the lowest in seventy four years. So
obviously demand hasn't diminished, but supply is the issue. And
we are supplying and they are prepared to pay any

(57:43):
amount of money for it, and that's why we are
in the situation we are in.

Speaker 12 (57:47):
Can we not charge them to ue as much so
we pay half as much?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
No, you can't do that.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
Leave it?

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Why Why don't you wring minds?

Speaker 12 (57:56):
You just said that they were prepared to pay any pride.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I don't know the prepared to pay literally anything, but
they're prepared to pay a pretty penny, is what it
boils down to. My daughter's in Albania at the moment,
having a fine time, and she sends back photos of course,
and Albania looks to me a lot like you know
how everyone goes, Oh, you got to go to Croatia, Tobrovnik,
all of those coasts look absolutely spectacular. She's ended up
in Albania because she's a poor student, so she can't

(58:21):
afford I'm assuming the cases, she can't afford Dubrovnik, so
she's gone to Albania. And when she said to me,
I'm going to Albania firstival she started off I can't
remember where she started off, Turkey. That's where she started off,
Turkey and went then to Spain. Now she's ended up
in Albania. But Albania looks a lot like Dubrovnik and
the Croatian coast. So if you next this is for

(58:43):
next year, you've probably left it too late for the summer.
But if next year you want to go for a
northern summer holiday, I'd recommend Albania because it's clearly a
lot cheaper, and she's a dirt poor student along with
her dirt poor student mates, and she's having the time
of a life in Albania and a really nice.

Speaker 12 (59:01):
Is you having a bit of a shop up?

Speaker 14 (59:03):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:03):
And good point. Glynn Cheese you're on fire this morning
because we're talking about this yesterday. And I said, the
reason why'll be doing this Katie was showing me the
photos because she's on a polar what's the Polar steps
Polar Steps app? And I don't have apps, so Katie
has to show me. So anyway, she's to own the
Polar Steps app. And there are obviously in places where
there are no shops. I mean, you don't think of
Albania and shopping, do.

Speaker 12 (59:23):
You, Well I do because they made your exports and
Kolude textiles, footwear and base metals.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Well, she's not into base metals.

Speaker 12 (59:31):
But what about shoes?

Speaker 26 (59:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (59:32):
Fair, I mean who doesn't love an Albanian shoe. I
often hear people say.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
So she's in Albania and it looks the beaches look beautiful,
and the sun is shining and the sky is blue,
and I'm assuming the cocktails are cheap. So she's having
a very nice time.

Speaker 14 (59:48):
And d.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I probably told you too much about my private life.
And I'm now nervous because normally the reprisals yeah when
I get home, but I just remembered she's gonna turn
up next and so I don't know what happened.

Speaker 12 (01:00:07):
So it was just I was It's just me and
a Friday to be very busy leading the contractors.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Anyway, Katie and Tom with the business for you after
the news, which is next to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the Mike
Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, retirement, communities, life your Way,
news talks, head be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Can we goes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Before the gool And they can't sing a he's.

Speaker 12 (01:00:49):
The biggest singer.

Speaker 17 (01:00:50):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You've seen the movie, right, I think I have you?
So the swell season the album is called Forward. So
the Irish singer songwriter guitarist Glenn and his Czech friend
who's a singer, songwriter and pianist, Marquetta, they sort of
evolved emerged in two thousand and sixty two thousand and seven,

(01:01:18):
the movie was called Once, and the film about a
pair of working class musicians who forged a short lived
created connection. They formed a connection in real life that
the connection didn't last and so.

Speaker 20 (01:01:30):
They broke up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Then they got back together for a second album. Then
after getting back together, they did some concerts, the famous
concerts that I still remember of South Korea twenty fifteen.
They did it tour of South Korea twenty fifteen, and
then they got back together again, so they seem angstey.
They got back together again in twenty twenty two, where
once again and I missed it because I wanted to
go over, but I was busy. They had a short

(01:01:55):
us to it, and that's the last we heard of
it until mouth. So the Swell Season back with eight
glorious tracks lasting thirty six minutes and forty seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
The Week in Review with two degrees bringing smart business
solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
To and Katie were this morning.

Speaker 27 (01:02:16):
You two, they're actually they're actually cool though so and
they put out some really good music.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Okay, there, you're on Glenn's side.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
I thought I didn't know, Mike.

Speaker 28 (01:02:27):
I don't know if you were talking about you and
Katie or the Swell season. They were together, they broke
up during the during the holidays, and they got back together.

Speaker 11 (01:02:34):
It just what just clarify things for me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
No, we've never been more in love.

Speaker 14 (01:02:38):
Short just a short breakup.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Do you want me to read you the text I've
seen to this morning at two thirty in.

Speaker 14 (01:02:43):
The Please don't.

Speaker 27 (01:02:45):
Oh my god, I get so anxious when you start
raising all this personal stuff.

Speaker 14 (01:02:49):
You're talking about Ruby, you're talking about the kids. You've
got to stop it.

Speaker 27 (01:02:53):
How many times have I told you do not hear
the family laundry on your show?

Speaker 28 (01:02:59):
Katie Katy, There only here, as you're literally telling him
in front of hundreds of thousands of.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Listeners every day, welcome to my fifteen every day. Now,
do you want to hear the best story ever on
this program?

Speaker 14 (01:03:15):
Is it a personal one? Because no?

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
So Tim does? He wins?

Speaker 20 (01:03:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
So Jason the boss is away today?

Speaker 20 (01:03:23):
Right?

Speaker 8 (01:03:25):
Oh, that builds up.

Speaker 14 (01:03:29):
The story yesterday as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yes he was, Yes he was? So anyway, was he
one of these losers who take holidays? If I didn't
have a really good story, if I didn't have a
really good story, I would have gone down that track
with you, Tim, because I think he's a bit weak.
But here's the thing. This morning I stopped by the
water station on my way into the studio and I

(01:03:53):
filled my thermos flask. My thermist flask I still use
because that's what Jason brought me when the hot tap break.
And that shows you how what a cool guy Jason is.
So I still use the thermos flask to this day
for my hot water and lemon. Today, I placed my
cup down while I filled up my thermos flask, but
I didn't take it with me into the studio. By
the time I sat down and get set to go
for the start of the show, I realized my cup's

(01:04:15):
missing because of another day in another complaint, which the
complaint being No, wasn't the hot tap that was broken,
it's just the place is a dump and nobody ever
cleans it up. They changed the cleaning schedule and the
building Jason also did that. So Jason changed the cleaning
schedule in the building and everything must be tidied up
by the professional cleaners. By the time Mike Hoskin goes
to air, so the good lady had come in and

(01:04:38):
she had tidied up my cup, thrown out my lemons,
no exactly thrown out my lemons, and the cup was missing,
and I said, Sammy, Sammy, hunt for that cup. He
went out to the kitchen, the main kitchen, and he
found it there. Of course, that's where the nice cleaning
lady had put it.

Speaker 12 (01:04:58):
So all young future cast is out there and know
that if you're depending on being a producer of a
very successful one skill that you need is the ability
to track down a tiny little.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Teacup, tiny little teacup, and you brought it back. My
first question was my first question. My first question was, yeah,
is the lemon still in it? And Sami went no,
because of course the late the cleaning lady had put
it in the dishwasher and it was gone.

Speaker 27 (01:05:26):
So we picked those lemons. I slice them and I
bag them for you. They go on the fridge and
then you take them. And there's a lot of ear
miles those lemons have endured before they get in there.

Speaker 26 (01:05:36):
Precise a lot of Okay, okay, can I can we
just can we just push paws on this?

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
This sounds like my two and a half year old.

Speaker 26 (01:05:41):
I lost my cup and I don't have many lemons,
and it's not fair. You are the king of tough
Holidays are for losers, hosking. What you'll do is you'll
drink your your your warm flask of whatever the heck
it is out of your own hands, and that's a
cup of hard en up.

Speaker 6 (01:05:55):
Go for it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Meantime, back to Jason, do you know what Jason was.

Speaker 14 (01:06:00):
He didn't come in with lemons.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
He didn't come in with lemons. He did the next
best thing. He ordered twenty seven dollars worth of lemons,
oh my goodness, and he was having them delivered to
the station now they're about to arrive at eight or ninety.
He ordered them at seven oh three for reasons best
known to themselves. And this is an insight into why
technology doesn't work. The people who are doing it, who
are one of the supermarkets, have them brought in from

(01:06:23):
Mount Wellington, which is about the stupidest place you can
bring in anything from Mount Wellington to Central Auckland in
peak hour traffic. Hence they've taken well in excess of
an hour to get here. But they're about to get here.
So Jason has ordered me lemons twenty seven dollars worth.

Speaker 11 (01:06:39):
It's a lot of lemons.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
It's a lot.

Speaker 28 (01:06:40):
Don't you get Nick Mowbray to chop with them in
They could have been in there sooner.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
See, that's why you tim are in the private sector.
Jason's still stuck here at good Old Edens in me.
He's not a thinker, but is he the nicest guy
in the world.

Speaker 27 (01:06:53):
Or what he is molly coddling you in a way
that probably needs to be tied down of it?

Speaker 14 (01:07:00):
Yeahting a monster.

Speaker 28 (01:07:02):
He says, yeah, yeah, you know what feedbacks the gifts?
Guess what you don't have any lemons? Just what else
you got? Are the lines available? Can you pause some
certain Can you break someone's biro and drop a bit
of ink in there?

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Guess what you two aren't back after the break. Thirteen
past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
News Talks It be sixteen past eight The Weekend Review
with two degrees fighting for Fear for Kiwi Business Mike,
twenty seven dollars of lemons is probably one lemon? That's
actually John a very good point, quick, Tim, How many
lemons do you get for twenty seven dollars?

Speaker 14 (01:07:43):
Well, the season, so there should be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Sorry, Nicolas, I didn't ask you how they're made and
with the global prices. I just said, how many lemons
are you getting right here, right now for twenty seven dollars?
Do you think? Tim?

Speaker 11 (01:07:55):
Go I reckon you you get three kg?

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Tell me how many lemons you get, your moron?

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
How big of the lemits? They're all different shapes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Okay, in today's bag? How many do you reckon there
will be? Will there be two? Or twenty seventeen or
twenty twenty three, twenty three lemons for twenty seven dollars. Okay, Cadie,
how many lemons?

Speaker 14 (01:08:20):
I reckon? There could be ten or fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Ten or fifteen, which is actually two numbers. But we'll
play the game with you do Were you a girl
guind by the way, Caddy? No, how close did you come?

Speaker 14 (01:08:33):
I was a Brownie?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Right, same thing, aren't they?

Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
I don't think I even made a guy that comes
after Brownie's.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
Yeah it does, it does go brown you guys.

Speaker 14 (01:08:42):
I think all I remember about Brownie is was the
brown owl. And I can't I don't even know what
we did. There might have been a uniform that was
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
There's about to be like five. Were you so you
didn't stay long? You weren't you weren't particularly?

Speaker 14 (01:08:56):
I was out. I'm not really a group project person.

Speaker 11 (01:08:58):
No, not really my vibe?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Okay, were you in the Scouts?

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
Were you in the Scouts?

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Of course not?

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Did you get of course?

Speaker 14 (01:09:10):
Of course he's not a group project guy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Certainly project. If I find us three more people than
I need? How many badges did you get?

Speaker 10 (01:09:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
At the supermarket, the other day.

Speaker 14 (01:09:28):
I honestly can't remember. This is so random. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:09:31):
I honestly I was at least.

Speaker 6 (01:09:34):
At the Disney Discs. Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I don't Disney Discs.

Speaker 6 (01:09:40):
I've got a question for you.

Speaker 28 (01:09:41):
Yes, chit chats or Tim TAM's go chit chats deal?

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
Absolutely correct, He's never eaten either.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
I would never clue, could never a clue where a
chit chat is, but it sounded better than Tim. I
know what at Tim Tammo's right. Here they go. The
lemons have arrived. I didn't tell you. I didn't tell
you what the prize.

Speaker 14 (01:10:02):
Was and what price.

Speaker 11 (01:10:04):
Some lemons, hopefully I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Some spear limits, but I will spread them around the office.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
Twenty two lemons.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yeah, go on, Well you think you see Tim. Unfortunately
for you, you think it's twenty two lemons, and unfortunately you're
a loser.

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
What is it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:18):
Can you take last delight in calling me a loser?

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I'm just calling the fashion where they are? So from
huber Eats Jason W. Order placed at seven oh three
duet July twenty five, seven eight seven o eight. It
arrived at what let's call it eight what fourteen useless.

Speaker 14 (01:10:34):
That's why I hate Uber.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I hate Uber two. Do you hate Uber?

Speaker 20 (01:10:38):
Tim?

Speaker 18 (01:10:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
We all hate Uber. Do you hate Uber more than
you hate Miles Hurrel?

Speaker 14 (01:10:45):
I don't hate myles?

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
Start?

Speaker 26 (01:10:47):
Can we start sucking the hater age? That's Friday? Come
on the solar shining.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
I tell you what.

Speaker 14 (01:10:53):
Why do they lie and say that they'll be there
in like five minutes? They never are? They never never,
never are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
That's true.

Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
How many lemons?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Okay, before I tell you how many lemons?

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
For goodness, no, no, no no, he Jason said twenty
seven dollars worth of lemons, which is crap.

Speaker 8 (01:11:10):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Do you know what we actually paid for these lemons?
And I'll tell you how many of there are we
paid for it.

Speaker 27 (01:11:16):
He won't have spent twenty seven dollars because he's not
a big spender like that, and.

Speaker 14 (01:11:19):
He won't make money.

Speaker 27 (01:11:21):
Certainly, he's a manager, so he's very careful with money,
so I would be spent twenty seven he spent.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
But know what this does is settles once and for
all the food price index debate in this country. At
the moment, New Zealand stopped whining because we've spent this
morning five dollars and forty eight cents yep for lemons,
and for that we have got it. Unfortunately, Tim, you
were wrong, Katie, I let you wa.

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
You said it was twenty seven bucks. I said, seven questions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
There's fraud a place?

Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
Ok, well, how many lemons?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Or was that just a delivery?

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
That's his torture? Can I tell you what joke we spent?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
No, he doesn't have a joke. Five dollars forty eight,
five dollars forty eight on lemons and the total bill
was twenty seven dollars twenty I hate Uber? Do you
hate Uber?

Speaker 14 (01:12:18):
Came ripped off? I take Uber? You've been ripped off?

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
All right?

Speaker 20 (01:12:22):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:12:23):
Can we do?

Speaker 6 (01:12:23):
Can we do? Seven year old wolfies joke this week?

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
The answer to him, all right, all right, all right,
and cong congratulate you have a ready holiday? Yes I did. Congratulations, Cadie.
We got fifteen lemons, oh fifteen yeah, fifteen lemons for
five dollars. Yeah, but for twenty seven bucks because you've

(01:12:46):
gone and if you've gone into where the hell did
we buy them from? I can't even see fresh Choice.
We've bent them from Fresh Choice, not to who so
they've come eight hundred miles. I mean, the carbon miles
are ridiculous, but we could have got fifteen lemons for
five bucks.

Speaker 12 (01:12:59):
That nice looking lemons. They are a bit on the
small side.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
They're small at Juicy Glenn, but like me, I mean, your.

Speaker 12 (01:13:06):
Teacup is tiny, so that's appropriate.

Speaker 14 (01:13:10):
This has been a bus this morning. I'm as here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
It's like, no, you can't have your money back. It'll
take too long to get to you because I'm sending
it by you. By eight twenty two.

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Speaker 12 (01:15:05):
That's quite the recommendation, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
That is very funny. Yesterday I think it was embarrassing.
But Elbow backflipped on beef. They haven't brought the beef
in from America forever. Trump said, start bringing that beef
in or we got no deal Elbow and so Elbow
went okay, So he did, So we'll talk more about
that with Steve.

Speaker 8 (01:15:25):
Next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Tog sad be But Mike, how's it possible that Adrian
got a payout? This is all after he had a
tanty and quit after a minor telling off for bad behavior.
He should have been sacked for four performance John, I
think you're over rigging that he shouldn't have been sacked.
I mean, he could have been sacked for poor performans.
He probably shouldn't have been reappointed by Grant Robertson, but
he got a payout. He got the rest of his contract,
which is entitled to I believe he got a bit

(01:15:57):
of extra on top of that to save things getting tricky.
And he didn't quit. I think I'm fair in saying
this wouldn't be nice if he actually turned up and
publicly explained it. He's welcome on this program anytime. He
didn't actually quit because he packed us sad. He quit
because he was getting his budget cut and it looked
like he found out in the meetings with Treasury and
Nicola that that was going to be successful. And therefore

(01:16:19):
he said, I'm not running the bank if that's the
sort of budget you're offering meat, which is more than
entitled to do. Of course, twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 17 (01:16:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
It makes a very rare Friday appearance, but we are
eternally grateful for it. Morning mate. Good aid out the
beef business, so you don't bring it in. I mean,
it was never banned, and we must make this point.
But because everyone's aligned in America through Canada and Mexico,
and you got a bit freaky with what might happen
to the meat you never actually brought in the inn.
The backflip yesterday, is that embarrassing or not?

Speaker 24 (01:16:53):
Well, it's unusual and unexpected and everyone now suspects that
what's going on here is that there's been a backroom
do you have done so that Donald Trump's happier than
what he's been with what Australia has been up to
in terms of tariffs and the fact that Anthony Albanize
doesn't get to meet him aucast the whole thing's wrapped
up together. So the Australian beef industries were seventy five

(01:17:15):
billion dollars. We export a heap of beef to the US,
mainly low quality. It gets minced up and made into
hamburgers and sold of hamburger joints. So we've never really
eaten American beef. I don't know if you've ever eaten
an American steak in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I don't know if you America.

Speaker 24 (01:17:33):
Yeah, and it looks fine. No one would query that
it's not good quality. But as the cattle industry said yesterday,
when this is announced, it's like selling ice to the
Esquimos I mean, we don't need it, we don't want it,
and many Australians and then indeed a lot of leading
chefs this morning overnight have said well we're not going
to use American beef. We use Australian beef. So it

(01:17:56):
does seem extremely odd and our bios s curity is
something that Australia really does treasure. And you know, if
a cow is raised in Mexico and then it's shipped
over the border and it's cut up and then sent
to Australia, there is a risk still because there's still
mad cow disease in Mexico. So you know, we need

(01:18:17):
to we need to be extremely careful. And I think
the government has been very very strange and very secretive
about why this is the case. Don Farrell, the Trade Minister, says,
are it's just coincidents, don't worry too much about it.
I'm not sure that's the case.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Unfortunately, Elbow and Trump can talk about it all in
their meeting. Oh who's hold on? That's right, No, they
won't be doing that. Who's the who's the billionaire on
the sixty million?

Speaker 24 (01:18:44):
Andrew Forest He's made a massive bit of fortune out
of exporting iron order China. This bloke, he talks a
strange game here. He's very pro China and Iron are
when he's in w A and he comes over to
the East Coast and he keeps promising to make green hydrogen.

(01:19:05):
And the Albanize government had fallen for this spin that
he could do this, and so they gave him a
sixty million dollar grant to build a plant in Gladstone
in Queensland, which was going to this is a M
fifty hydrogen plant. Well that's been canned. It was opened
a year ago. Now mothball ninety staff cut and the

(01:19:27):
plant received sixty million in federal and Queensland government support. Well,
quite rightly, this on bar for the Australian taxpayer. The
government says we want our sixty million back. Now Forrest
has declined to do that. He also, by the way,
shot ditched plans to spend nine hundred million on a
hydrogen project in Arizona, which was once touted as a

(01:19:47):
billion dollar investment. He's been padded on the back by
Anthony Albanezi forever. He was in China with the PM
last week when he visited President g and Forrest now
is saying, oh well, you know, maybe you'll get your
six hundred million pack, maybe you won't. But the broader
question about this is is it possible to get green
hydrogen up and running. The answer at the moment seems

(01:20:09):
to be no. BP have also quit a clean energy
mega project in the Pilburg in Wa, and so this
whole idea that you can produce green hydrogen seems to
have fallen over.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
I was a green hydrogen fan, but all my reading
of late means it's the cost just they can't make
it work. In other words, unless you get massive subsidies
and get governments on board, it has no future. And
that's sadly just the way it is.

Speaker 24 (01:20:35):
Yeah, the dollars don't stack up, and I think you know,
once the rubber hits the road in these things, it's
all good and well to have the vision, but if
you can't make it work financially, then it's not.

Speaker 20 (01:20:45):
Going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Hey, have you got the accommodation of the infrastructure for
the flood of Kiwis that have signed up for the
Defense Force? Are you're able to cope with it or not?

Speaker 24 (01:20:54):
I heard a very funny comment on this on the
radio yesterday that suggested we found the only three Kiwis
in the world who are actually prepared to put a
uniform on and go and fight anymore, which I think
is a bit of an insult. But anyway, a year ago,
Albanezi government says, right, we're short on soldiers, sailors and
airm and what we're going to do is the Five

(01:21:16):
Eyes countries, which is Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the UK
and the US. If you've been living in Australia and
you're from one of those countries, you've been living here
for a year, we'll let you join our military, and
you know we want you to come and fight for us.
A year on, the only country that delivered us any
soldiers was New Zealand, thank you, and there was three

(01:21:37):
of them and no one else has put their hand up.
I mean, it is quite laughable and on a serious
note when you look at it. I mean, if you're
going to join the military as an individual from a country,
I would have thought you'd joined it that the country
you're from. Yes, I mean, wouldn't you feel weird?

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Don't Well, apart from the.

Speaker 24 (01:22:00):
Thing I putting on, all blacks know it is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
But but the only thing I would say is that
if you were genuinely determined to be part of a
military that was active, you wouldn't join the New Zealand
military because they're not particularly active outside of a bit
of peacekeeping and stuff like that. You might see action
if you joined Australia.

Speaker 24 (01:22:18):
Yeah, I didn't think you had al Have you got
to military?

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
No, but there are some bits and pieces. We're keeping
a car park somewhere that they call military. Hey are
you on Reddit? By the way?

Speaker 24 (01:22:28):
No, well I don't even know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
No, exactly, and so but there's a do you know
Australians are on Reddit more than anyone else in the
entire world. Australians are obsessed with Reddit. It's it's a
lot of In fact, it's just it's just stuff. People
have stuff and they say stuff and they put it
together and it's a thing that you go read apparently,
but you're obsessed with it.

Speaker 24 (01:22:47):
Yeah I am.

Speaker 15 (01:22:48):
I've got a tip for you. Weekend viewing HBO Box Office. Yes,
two part documentary on Billy Joel Now you music.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
So you've seen it and you'd thoroughly recommend it.

Speaker 24 (01:23:03):
I would recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
As is it current as in like he's ill.

Speaker 24 (01:23:09):
He's sitting at a piano with a very long interview
as an older Billy Joel, and it's got incredible vision. Wow,
what he went through to Gideon's career up and running Gordon.
It's a great story.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
HBO, well done, appreciate you have a good weekend and
we'll catch up next week. Steve Price, Now help me out, Glenn.
What's HBO here? Disney?

Speaker 12 (01:23:28):
Well, no, Apple, it's confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
I didn't ask that. That's not I don't want that.

Speaker 12 (01:23:34):
So there is an HBO channel actually on Sky.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Yeah, I know, yes, but it won't be there.

Speaker 12 (01:23:40):
Well, we'll probably is on demand maybe and then and
then of course you've got your supplementary Neon subscription.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
Will be on the on. It's on the onf you
want HBO with that sort of thing. Bill Maher did
a thing with him the other day, Billy Joel, not
Steve Price, and it's Bill Maher is hard to watch.
He really is hard work to watch. But Joel's quite
funny and highly entertaining and very insightful. Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Twelve Away from nine It was melt Water's new July
Global stat Shot report of Reddit. I've never been on
Reddit in my life, but thirty three percent of Australians.
The global average is eleven, so three times more Australians
on average are into Reddit, followed by Ireland, followed by US.
So we like Reddit as much as Australia. Is it

(01:24:36):
a cultural thing given that we're close to Australia in Ireland,
the US thirty two, Canada thirty one. You look at
places like Japan, China, France, Italy, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, all
of which under ten percent Lwest figure in the worlds
Japan they couldn't give a monkeys one point two, So
maybe it is a cultural thing. By the way, I
happened to stumble upon yesterday Scott Morrison in front of
a congressional hearing in the US, which I found interesting

(01:24:59):
to the extent he was telling the hearing that Australians
are at risk of going to sleep on the security
threat posed by China. They were looking into the congressional
hearing the Chinese Communist Party generally, and he was citing
polling by the Lowe Institute the fifty percent of Australians
said China was more they're more of an economic partner
than somebody to worry about. Forty seven percent it was

(01:25:21):
more of security threat, so more people think they're a
partner than a threat. This is the objective, he said
of the CCP, that Western democracies will go to sleep
on the threat. You need to build the internal resilience
and that means an appreciation of the potential threat and
that is somewhat in jeopardy in Australia, which is interesting.

(01:25:41):
The other thing out of Australia I got yesterday their
housing market is absolutely on fire and it gives you
an interesting juxtaposition between New Zealand and Australia. Their argument
is that there's been two interest rate cuts and we've
had any number now, four or five, whatever it's up to,
and the two have fired up the market. People have
gone nuts borrowing money like this no tomorrow, whereas in

(01:26:02):
New Zealand it hasn't happened. And that's all psychological, that's
in our heads. And so the average price now, the
median house price in Sydney has gone past one point
seven million dollars, which is up four point two percent.
There was a time when Auckland and Sydney, maybe Queenstown
and Sydney were on a par we're below a million.
Now they're at one point seven and climbing nine to nine.

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Mike Starling's down globally. Yes, I knew that. We were
just talking about that before. And I'm one of the
people affected. Not that you care, but I'm just telling
you how I'm one of the people affected. But anyway,
hopefully not something Centius to. I don't go to fault
all the time on that. It's probably just a technical
fault and I'm sure it'll be fine.

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Have you seen that Liam Lawson has shorter odds to
be in the points in the Yuki Sonoda at four
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at four and Sonoda at four fifty. At the fabulous
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that there's anything better than spar possibly silverstone, but al
rouge as they rocket up a rouge, I mean that
alone just paints a picture, doesn't It's just amazing. What
have we got? Six away from nine?

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Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
So Jerome Powell has been touring. If you don't know
about this, Jerome Palell Fed chair. He's renovating the FED
Reserve at the moment. So Trump's been all over this,
and there's been some sort of conspiracy thinking that he
could use this. Ethinks's corruption there and too much money
being spent and so he could probably sack him. Anyway,
It's this whole back and forth between Trump and Powell.

(01:27:55):
So Trump's gone down to the building site with Powell
to have a look around at what's going on. He'd
just been handed a piece of piper would apparently showed
things were even worse than Etho's.

Speaker 21 (01:28:06):
So we're taking a look and it looks like it's
about three point one billion, one up a little bit
or a lot. So the two point seven is now
three point one.

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
Yeah, it just came out. Yeah, I haven't heard that
from anybody to fit. It just came out.

Speaker 6 (01:28:28):
I know about three point one.

Speaker 8 (01:28:29):
That's well three what this game from us? Yes, I
don't know who does that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
You're in cleaning the Martin renovation. You just added our
retire capital.

Speaker 11 (01:28:41):
Yeah, you just you just added in a third building.

Speaker 6 (01:28:43):
Is what that is? That's a third building.

Speaker 8 (01:28:46):
It's a building that's being built, which.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
It was built five years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:28:50):
We finished Martin five years ago and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Sat over as part of the oldall.

Speaker 8 (01:28:54):
So you know, so we're going to take a look.
You can't buy that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
It's a building that's been built. That's the president of
the United States of America. It's a building that's been built.
That's the advantage of actually having a few facts in
front of you. And that's why Jerome Power I was
probably wedding his pants with excitement. Anyway, just through the miles,
Hurle isn't the only one who gets ask stupid questions.

Speaker 14 (01:29:18):
That's a real estate developer.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
What would you do with a project manager.

Speaker 14 (01:29:22):
Who would be over budget?

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
Generally speaking?

Speaker 15 (01:29:26):
What would I do.

Speaker 24 (01:29:27):
At fire him?

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
So we want to know who that person was, whether
or not they were planted. But you got to watch
the whole thing, is what I'm saying. Because the two
of them standing just for the hard hat, just for
the hard hair. He looked, he looked very red. Didn't
he to be fair to Trump? He looked, he looked
uncomfortably hot and sweaty. And he's not good in the

(01:29:50):
hat at the best of times, mind you, who's good
in the hard hat? I mean, be honest, who's good
in a hard hat?

Speaker 12 (01:29:55):
And then after the tour it came out to do
some more press stuff with Tim Scott and there was
no sign of your own power after that, and I'm
worried that he pushed him down an empty shaft shaft
or something, and we need to see him again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
You have the very best of weekends because we got
the Warriors tomorrow. Titans. Nay, I mean that's not a
big deal, but you know so a couple of more
points sold out by the way, out of twenty nine games,
twenty six of sold out. How good is that number? Anyway,
you enjoy your weekend. We'll see you Monday. Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
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