Full Show Podcast: 25 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Head, be bony and welcome today the new Rama replacement idea.
And if we've built something every time they change the rules,
would we have built a city by now? A New
Zealand football they're excited about the World Cup. We get
to the beef, about the beef between New Zealand and
the US and tariffs. The Prime Minister joins the fun
thing Tuesday Catherines and France. Rodd Is in the UK
asking right, oh seven pas SX, I tell you what.

(00:31):
I find myself conflicted again over the banks. Now the
government is after the banks, says I'm sure you're well aware.
The banks keep turning up at select committees and going
what us what. There's a lack of competition apparently, except
is there twenty thousand dollars twenty thousand dollars they're handing
out at the moment. If you go borrow money from
them twenty thousand dollars, why so you leave your current

(00:52):
bank and shift teams. That's called competition. The twenty k
by the way is up to and has generally worked
as a percentage of what you borrow. You would need
to borrow a lot to get the twenty thousand dollars.
Then last week we were told that the churn is
now high. People are moving, they are hustling, they're going
to where the deals are. The days of complacency apparently
are over. Then we come to the interest rates. The

(01:12):
smaller players, the Kei Wei banks, the sbss are leading
the market on specific rates. One of the smaller banks
was the one that offered you the mortgage money below
five percent, led the market with it, threw down the gauntlet.
So is that competition, which is not to say we
wouldn't like more competition. But this is a country of
five million people, for goodness sake, not twenty seven million
like Australia. The margins I often go on about that

(01:33):
are higher here than they are in Australia, but they
argue that's because of the Reserve Bank and their compliance costs.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Easy fixible to thought. Appoint the right governor of the
Central Bank and let Nichola Willis loose on the rules,
set them the way you want and that should be that,
shouldn't it get rid of the OREE anchor around compliance
costs and margins, so that should all balance up, shouldn't it?
Or will they see? Is my suspicion right that the
truth is in fact, banks are fantastically profitable here because
despite what I've just argued, there isn't enough churn, there

(02:01):
aren't enough small players, and twenty grand doesn't really move
the market. My trouble is I can't actually work that out,
so I'm a bit perplexed at the moment. It looks
to me like a half decent market, not perfect, but
half decent. The Commerce Commission doesn't agree, and neither do
the government. So the big question I suppose is what
are they actually going to do about it? Not talk,
not threaten, not announcements. If they are right and I

(02:22):
am wrong, what are they actually going to do about it?

Speaker 4 (02:25):
And win.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
News of the world. In ninety second, Bird one busy
in Turkey rounding them up.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
He says the Oppositions show will eventually end and they
will feel shame for the evil that they have done.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
There are plenty to round up as well.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
If they feel like they took our democracy and we
are trying to take it back.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
You want to freedom.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I want a good future.

Speaker 7 (02:52):
For myself and for my friends.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We don't think that our votes count. If you want
an update on where the Russia Ukraine peace are at,
Trump's favorite go to man, Steve Woodcough. He's seeing the
sights and he has learned plenty.

Speaker 8 (03:05):
Are these so called four regions Dunbar, Crimea, you know
the names, Gansk and there's two others.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
They're Russian speaking, Yep. There have been referendums, geography a
plus in Britain, a couple of things. I thought Jamie
had already done it. But Chancellor Rachel she has decided
school breakfast sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (03:28):
I don't recognize those claims that the government are looking
at means testing free school meals. In fact, this government
are ensuring that all children get a good start to
the day with a breakfast club helping working parents.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I think Jamie did the lunches, so Rachel's obviously doing
the breakfast anyway. The other thing is he throw where
the scandal grows. The Transport secretary does what transport secretaries do.

Speaker 10 (03:50):
We'll be looking very carefully at what that report says,
both about this particular incident and also any wider lessons
we might need to learn.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
The funny thing is I've got a report from a
number of years ago that pointed out the very problems
that led to what happened over the weekend, So I'll
feature that later on the program. Then we got old
Andrew Tat who was in Romania. Then he went to Florida.
Now he's back in Romania.

Speaker 11 (04:15):
I think I'm investigated everywhere on the planet because I'm
one of the most important people on the planet. And
when you're one of the most important people on the planet,
every country in the world is interested in you. I
probably have an investigation in my Anma in Kazakhstan. It
doesn't matter because I've done nothing wrong and I'm happy
to comply with all judicial authorities everywhere around the world.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Between him and Witkoff, you wonder why we're in trouble.
Japan and tourism, it's on fire at the moment. Numbers
from January show three point seven million people visited in January.
That's a recoring anyway. A lot of them want to
climb Pluji, So the pre pictures have put in new
rules to stop people trashing the place. So there's now
mandatory tourist tax of forty seven bucks for a permit
to climb. It started out as ten and it was voluntary.

(04:52):
You'll also have to take a class about hiking safety
and then you're going to pass a test to prove
that you took that information in Why because they've been well,
they've been flat out rescuing idiots who get stuck up
the mountain in jangles or those who didn't take water.
So between the jangle wearers and whit Cough and Tate,
basically we're all by It's news in the world in
nineteen those arrests, by the way, in Turkey at the moment,

(05:14):
they're busy eleven hundred and thirty three over the past
five days and it ain't over yet. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
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Speaker 2 (05:30):
Singapore. Inflation reads zero point nine consumer price and at
zero point nine, that's for Februry, lower than January one
point two core inflation zero point six. It's all good stuff.
They got themselves under control. Yeah, the airport at Heathrow,
not just that report of feature later, but the National
Grid Boss overnight said, look, there were two other substations
supplying powder Heathrow. They didn't have to turn the place

(05:50):
off at all. So it's getting worse by the hour.
Fifteen past six jm My Wealth, Andrew Kellah, good morning,
very good morning, Mike. On the broad thing that very
seemingly can do no wrong at the moment Sinley came
to the party.

Speaker 12 (06:05):
Well it did, yes, in a way.

Speaker 13 (06:07):
It was one of the problem stocks of twenty twenty four.
They released their results yesterday for the half ussin lay milk.

Speaker 12 (06:14):
Look just a bit of context here on Sinley.

Speaker 13 (06:16):
Twenty twenty three, the share price was over three dollars fifty.

Speaker 12 (06:20):
Then the troubles started to happen.

Speaker 13 (06:22):
They built a big plant in Pocono, they had a
lot of debt, the plant was underutilized, and by twenty
twenty four the share price is set around forty cent mark.
So look, there were significant concerns over the company's ability
to carry on as a going concern.

Speaker 12 (06:37):
But as you say, yes, it's back in profitability now.

Speaker 13 (06:39):
Just revenues up sixteen percent to nine hundred and seventeen million,
then eked out a net profit after tax of just
under five million dollars.

Speaker 12 (06:48):
But you might say, well that's not much of a profit, but.

Speaker 13 (06:51):
Since stark contrast to the same period last year, when
it posted a ninety six point two million dollar loss.
Now earnings pre tax, the company guided to fifty three
to sixty three million.

Speaker 12 (07:02):
It came in at sixty three point one, which is good.

Speaker 13 (07:05):
Look there's One of a number of issues was the
company's ability to retain its farmer supplies.

Speaker 12 (07:11):
So no supplies makes life very difficult.

Speaker 13 (07:14):
They've litt an incentive to their supplies and importantly most
of their South Island supplies are not looking to cease supply.
They're not out of the woods quite yet, though might
The auditors have continued to comment that there is material
uncertainty related to go and concern farmer supply has given
special mention there. In the ins OFETs announcement, the company

(07:34):
did note that their financial progress will be slower in
the second half of the year. They talked about opportunities
and risks related to milk streams and foreign exchange. Look,
but the balance sheet has been recapitalized, their debt levels alike.

Speaker 12 (07:47):
That's all good. Share prices did take a bit of
a hit yesterday.

Speaker 13 (07:50):
It went from a dollar and one down to ninety cents,
so down eleven percent, was still well above that forty
cent mark that it got to last year.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Now, let's have a look at some international numbers, because
a budget day in Australia, apart from anything else, these
American numbers this morning, you might write and reading manufacturers
of forty nine point eight and that would make it
in contraction that is correct. So yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (08:08):
So last week we had our local reads on services
and manufacturing.

Speaker 13 (08:11):
In the last twenty four hours we've had what we
call flash PMI, so these are provisional reads on services
and manufacturing around the world. Good picture in the economic
health just quickly Australia they looked pretty good. Yeah, Manufacturing
fifty two points six, services fifty one point two, so
business activity accelerating. Australia private sector output rose for the

(08:32):
six consecutive month. But yes, if we look at the US,
kind of interesting here because they're mixed. So manufacturing was
weaker and contracting you're dead right. It was expected to
print at fifty one point seven, came in at forty
nine point eight, under that magic fifty number that goes
from expansionary to contracting.

Speaker 12 (08:49):
But the services sector headline number was.

Speaker 13 (08:52):
A lot stronger fifty four point three, and they expected
that to come in at fifty one. And what the
market's done is it said, well, we only want to
look at the good stuff, so at the services. There
was a stronger reader on activity from the Chicago Fed
as well. Look, unfortunately, if you dig into these numbers,
firm's costs are rising at almost the steepest rate in
two years, so inflation is still a problem out there.

(09:12):
But the market said, we'll just look at that. UK
manufacturing though, MIC forty four point two, so pretty horrible there,
but their services sectors saved them as well.

Speaker 12 (09:22):
And actually the share markets are all looking very positive
this morning. So people just want to look at the
good stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Mike, youep, nothing wrong with that byd seventy three percent
and a lot of profit. It's they've seemingly when you
compare them to Tesla and they've come from nowhere, haven't
they kind of cracked it?

Speaker 12 (09:38):
Really, haven't they.

Speaker 14 (09:38):
We talked about it last week.

Speaker 13 (09:40):
A four hundred climeter of charge in five minutes. That
was their game changing technology. Chinese manufacturer BVS. Their sales
revenue in twenty twenty four MIC over one hundred billion.
They have overtaken Tesla. So they sold four point two
seven million cars. They think they'll do six million this year. There,
so their sales are going up high probolic. But Tesla

(10:02):
shares are falling. But you might have seen overnight TESSAs
share price has bounced. It's bounced about ten percent overnight.
That's must have got everyone together for a wee pep
talk last week. He got all the stuff together. He
sprewked the robotax, he sprewked the robotics, told him not
to sell their shares, and share price has responded. But
he's still got this little problem in the background.

Speaker 14 (10:21):
JP Morgan.

Speaker 13 (10:22):
They've got a share price target for Tesla one hundred
and twenty bucks.

Speaker 12 (10:25):
Share price is currently two hundred and seventy two.

Speaker 13 (10:27):
So, yeah, there's a few winds of there's a few
there's a few headwinds.

Speaker 12 (10:32):
In his way at the moment.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Give me some more numbers, radio.

Speaker 13 (10:35):
So the share markets was sort of kind of mixed
around the world yesterday, but overnight the US markets are
looking a lot better. The Dow Jones is up over
one percent. Four to four to two three is the
mark there. The S and P five hundred up almost
one and a half percent five seven hundred and fifty one,
and the Nasdak was up almost two percent, just coming
off a little bit eighteen one hundred and nineteen. That

(10:57):
should lift share markets around the world today. The Footso
one hundred yesterday lost nine points eight six three eight.
The Nika lost a little bit thirty seven six hundred
and eight. Shanghai Composite up small. The ASEX two hundred
closed at seven nine three six, which was only up
six points. We gained fifteen points twelve one hundred and
twenty eight. The US dollar has rallied a bit overnight,

(11:17):
which means Kiwi dollar is a bit weaker point five
seventy one five against the US point nine one one
Ozzie zero point five two nine three Euro point four
four to two eight against the pound eighty six point
oh two. Japanese yen gold has come off a little
bit three thy ten dollars and brentkrewed seventy two dollars
and eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Cent tomorrow Mate appreciated Andrew callaher Jomowalth dot co dot
n zc Intour Souvenirs from the Battlefield was sold last
night at Webb's auction house which is in Auckland. It
was Goldie's first masterpiece recognized as such. He did it
at the age of nineteen. And there's two things that
are interesting about it. One, you can see his brilliance
in it. But more importantly, it's not of a mari head.

(11:59):
It of well souvenirs from the battlefield. It's a sword
and a helmet and things like that. And I actually
like it better than anything else he did. And what
I also like is it sold for ninety thousand bucks,
which yes, is a lot of money, but it's not
the millions that the marii heads sell for. I think
it's a better painting for a cheaper price than whoever
got it did well. Six twenty one.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
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Speaker 2 (12:30):
It be from our countries that are in a bit
of poorp at the moment. So Handuck Su, who is
South Korea's reinstated acting presidents. He's been in court. The
court ruling proofs they say that the country's parliament had
abused its authority impeach officials. This is not to be
confused with the previous president, yunsuk yul, who imposed martial

(12:51):
law briefly, but the problem with the Constitutional Court was
they struck down the Prime Minister Hun Duk SU's impeachment.
He was impeached by the opposition. He reportedly refused to
appoint three justices to the Constitutional Court looking into the
impeachment of the aforementioned president. So you got the president
who is being impeached, but then you got the Prime
minister who became the president, who then got taken to court.

(13:14):
But now he's back president again.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
So thanks for clearing that out.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
South Korea sorted six twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
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Speaker 2 (13:25):
Then we come to Greenland, so that's all getting heated
this morning. A little bit of context. Big Don had
a word about Greenland.

Speaker 15 (13:31):
We need Greenland because of national security, international security, world security,
world peace, and I think we're going to get it
one way or the other.

Speaker 16 (13:42):
We're going to get it.

Speaker 17 (13:44):
Then JD chipton Denmark, which controls Greenland, it's not doing
its job and it's not being.

Speaker 18 (13:50):
A good ally.

Speaker 17 (13:51):
So you have to ask yourself, how are we going
to solve that problem? Solve our own national security if
that means that we need to take more territorial interest
in Greenland. That is what President Trump is going to do,
because he doesn't care about what the Europeans scream at us.
He cares about putting the interests of America's citizens first.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
This morning's news, JD's missus is heading there this Friday.

Speaker 19 (14:11):
Hello, I'm so excited to share that I'll be visiting
kala Letna, Greenland next weekend. I'm particularly thrilled to visit
during your national dog sled race, which our country is
proud to sincory as a sponsor.

Speaker 18 (14:23):
I've been reading all about it.

Speaker 19 (14:24):
With my children, and I'm amazed by the incredible skill
and teamwork that it takes to participate in this race.
I'm also coming to celebrate the long history of mutual
respect and cooperation between our nations, and to express hope
that our relationship will only grow stronger in the coming years.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now, the problem was she announced that but also going
with her, which is the but she didn't announce as
the team of Trump officials, including Mike whilst's problem, there's
no one knew until the Prime Minister discovered and he goes,
what the hell? So anyway, Greenland's got problems. South Carey
has got problems, Turkey's got problems, Greenland's got problems. We
might have problems beef. You know my fascination with beef
in Australia and potential teriffs with the US. What's our

(15:00):
beef situation? Are we bracing for something big from the US.
We'll get the details for you next.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
Dead be sad. Another cabinet meeting will get to the
potential teriffs for this country in just a couple of moments.
But another potential cabinet meeting underway. Yesk musters there and
I'll get to him in a moment. But Trump's will
bullish on the tariffs.

Speaker 15 (15:26):
This morning, you gave billions of dollars to companies that
already have many billions of dollars that just they said,
thank you very much. It was no incentive for them
to use it. But what is good is the tariffs
will make it so that they.

Speaker 12 (15:39):
Want to come back.

Speaker 18 (15:40):
That's why they're coming back.

Speaker 15 (15:41):
I think they're coming back because of the election that
took place on November fifth, and because of the fact
that they have to come back because the tariffs are
forcing them to come back.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
You also announced this morning that anyone who does business
with Venezuela is going to face the twenty five percent
tariff because Venezuela has been exporting people criminals from mental
asylums into America. There's no proof of any of that,
of course, but nevertheless those a teriffs will apply. I
think of as of April second, which is Liberation Day,
but liberation Day is not liberation Day because most of

(16:12):
those tariffs, it is being reported this morning, you're going
to be walked back and changed anyway. So the whole
thing is a clustered anyway. What's must doing there?

Speaker 20 (16:17):
Their cay s approught was with this more Bosinis administration
where they were handing out loans at three hundred and
thirty million dollars worth of loans to people under the
edge of eleven. I think the youngest Kelly was a
nine month year old who got one hundred dollard allder.
That's a very precocious baby you were talking about.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Here's what should Arnold suggested yesterday. That's probably not truly,
but they won't stop them meantime. Back here, so well
back here and over there. I mean, where are we
at with us this beef business and tariffs we've been
talking about for the last couple of days. The Australians
have got trouble with the American farmer who are upset

(16:54):
at the one way street on trade. So where do
we sit? Are we going to get called up in
any of this beef and land New Zealand check Alans, Well,
there's Kate, very good morning to you. Do you got
any idea what's going on? Any more than anybody else
at the moment?

Speaker 21 (17:08):
Oh, look, it's still very much too will even know
what we do know? I think, except the New Zealand
US trade relationships actually really well balanced overall. And you know,
in terms of agricultural trade, yes, we do send a
lot of high quality beef and land to the Americans,
but New Zealand farmers actually buy a lot of American
tractors as well.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
So we have got really.

Speaker 21 (17:26):
Strong relationships with the US and probably quite different to the.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Australian Okay, so the Australians are part of the Americans.
Argument about the Australians is they don't want to and
they've used a whole lot of rules and regulations not
to import American beef. Is that true here or not?

Speaker 21 (17:42):
No, Look, they are really concerned about what they call
unfair trading practices, and Zealand plades with a really straight back.
So there's no trade restrictions on American beef and lamb
coming into New Zealand. Our farmer's aren't subsidized, our exports
aren't subsidized, and our exchange rates not manipulated. So we
do have the advantage of playing with a very straight beat.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Right, we export one point according to the numbers, I've
got one point thirty seven billion to the US, so
we're booming and we're doing well. Congratulations to us, But
we only bring in thirty one million. Do we bring
in thirty one million because we've got enough of our
own beef or is there some other reason for that.

Speaker 21 (18:17):
We're an exporting nation and we're exporting ninety percent of
the beef and ninety five percent of the land that
we produced, and we're sending it all over the world.
So you know, that's only natural that we're not importing
a whole lot of meat. But in terms of that
overall trade balance, we're actually really balanced.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Would they see it that way. So if the American
farmer and the lobby groups are in the ear of
the president, are they concerned whether we buy tractors to
balance out over all trade or are they just arguing
their own corner? And if nobody looks more broadly, they're
going to go Actually, those numbers don't look right. We'll
slap a terrify on why wouldn't we look?

Speaker 21 (18:54):
They actually need our imports. I was over last month
actually in the States at the National Catamon Beef Conference,
and the conversations were there were very much they view
US as a consistent and reliable trading partner. They need
our lean trim to go into their hand earders. You know,
we're actually good for the American farmer. So I think
you know what's really clear is that New Zealand is

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not the target here. But you know, we're not naive,
and if the US does decide to introduce something that's
really bored and would impact all of their trading partners,
then it is pretty likely that we could be collateral damage. Unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay, well we'll wait and see what happens. Kate appreciate
the insight very much. Kate Acklin, who's the Beef and
Lamb New Zealand Chair with us this morning, nineteen minutes
away from seven tasking. I thought we'd dealt with this clearly.
Not so the cost of building just generation homes. Yesterday.
Are busy telling us how much prices are going up
on building products. As I say, I thought that was
sorted anywhere. But I mean, there's nothing wrong with the
price is going up as long as they're with inflation,

(19:48):
which is about two percent now. But they're telling us
three to seven percent. They reckon it's going to add
to an average house twenty to thirty thousand dollars. Numerous products.
They're claiming cladding, insulation, plaster, board, lining, flooring anywhere between
three and seventy percent, pink bats up four percent, jib
plaster three point nine. Demand for new homes remains weak,
while I wonder why because it's twenty to thirty thousand

(20:10):
dollars more. We might touch on this for the Prime
Minister in an hour's time eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
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Speaker 2 (20:22):
A little bit of this this morning.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Mic.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Very happy for the all whites, but it wouldn't get
ahead of myself. Reality is that most of our team
playing second and third division of European leagues, and there's
a huge gap which we don't realize. Playing Fiji, well,
I think we do realize. I think that when we
take on Fiji in New Caledonia we realize one we're
going to beat them, and two that'll get us to
the World Cup. But there is a sort of a
frisson around this business that we've made it to the
World Cup that I can't quite get my head around.

(20:45):
Making the World Cup shouldn't be a big deal because
they've expanded entry. In other words, entry has never been easier.
And then once we get there, we get excited about
not doing very well, which as far as I know,
is the only sport in this country for a sporting
nation that we get excited about not doing very well.

Speaker 7 (20:59):
Normally excited about you one, at the moment, aren't we
Well yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But we were, but not as excited as we were.
But I'm thinking that we unless we come first, second
or third, which we're not, that's our normal expectation. But
all of a sudden, we just just being there apparently
is all we need to get fizzed up six forty.

Speaker 22 (21:16):
Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance feace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
If you've flinging this one.

Speaker 18 (21:22):
I was looking at the Times.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I see they've reached America. Now that's the Linam Lawson
stories are being covered by Fox. I mean it's a
global story at the moment, I work you through some
of those numbers in a moment meantime, Catherine, how are you?

Speaker 5 (21:34):
I'm fine, Thank you mate.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Now look, I'll get to Dierard in just a couple
of moments' court appearance. Let me ask you a couple
of things about Turkey. First of all, and this includes
X and all of that sort of stuff. Where does
Europe think Turkey's going? Are we deeply worried about this?
Or is this just more d one being at one
deeply worried?

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Really? What what has been said, particularly in Brussels where
foreign affairs ministers met regularly, and then that just the
last few hours, is that Edigan has seen how much
back inside the tent that Putin has got that now
is the time it's good to be a good time
to if you like to be a sort of a
dictator to push aside would be successes. So yeah, it

(22:15):
is concerning. Let's not forget Turkey as a member of NATO,
the European Union spends a lot of time and a
lot of money trying to keep Turkey on side. And
for something which they consider to be so illegitimate, such
as putting a political opponent in prison and taking away
his ability to be able to contest an election, they

(22:36):
consider that is beyond the payals. So you're not just
closing down social media size making it difficult fever to
communicate with one another. But the fact that this basic
fundamental democratic writer is being taken away by an opponent
does worry them, and it really is for them a
sign that you're Edigan has really got the win that

(22:58):
sails after seeing Putin be almost rehabilitated in some parts
of the world.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
And that's before we get to Musk, who's been suspending
a number of accounts. Does the view of Musk in
Europe change dramatically now that he's not just expertise Donald's mte.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
Yeah, I mean everyone is still if you like my
recovering and I don't even think actually they're recovering that
well from that speech that vice President Vance made in February.
Remember that Munich speech where he accused the EU regulators
of being afraid of free speech and forcing content moderation policies.
So when it comes to things like Musk and ex

(23:36):
Twitter as that it used to be known as, they
really do take a close look at this because, as
they rightly say, there has been a big information war.
The Russia has been using social media networks to sort
of undermine institutions, and that's why you've had remarks such
as in the last few hours Romania, the social media

(23:58):
regulator there, has said, look, you know, it's not just
against Musk, it's against an information more. It's bigger than Musk,
but he is part of it, and he's the most
obvious part of it. We've had just in the last
couple of hours the Belgian Foreign Minister, a big voice
in the European Union, saying, look, this just cannot go on.
We've already got Musk facing what is that three charges

(24:19):
against the EU for digital services, saying that they should
be hitting them more. The Belgian FOREGA minister says that
big Tach is the best option for the European Union
to get back at Trump, to get back at musk
to try and make them, as they say, treat European market,
which is four hundred and fifty million people, to treat
them differently than they have done so far.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Right, So, Jira Depadiu Fried Green Tomato is not a
bad movie, it seems to me. Yet again, it's been
coming for ages. This court case. Is he there? How
long is it going to take and what happens?

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Okay, yeah, it opened just a few hours ago. He
turned up wearing a black suit, no tie. He came
into court a company by his lawyer. He will only
have to be in caught for six maximum six hours
every day. His doctors have said that's all he's able
to sit through because of his diabetes and last year,

(25:14):
of course, he had that quadruple bypass surgery. His lawyer
says that the allegations against him are false, part of
a campaign of slander. Of course, Depadu faces two cases
in this particular court, two allegations of sexual assault by
two separate women. This happened during the filming of Green

(25:37):
Shutters back in twenty twenty one. But of course it's
much bigger than that, because it has always been the
allegation that the French cinema industry has protected people like
Depardieu from the Me Too movement, has covered up, has
said that it's all part of being an artist, being
an actor, of being a celebrity in France, and that
he was just so much of a just this giant

(26:01):
of French cinema that the courts, despite having had these
allegations come to them before prosecutors putting them forward, that
they've shied away from it. And that's why you also
today outside the court here in Paris, you saw so
many people coming out and demonstrating in support of those
who have come forward, those two women, saying that more
needs to be done by the film industry to police itself,

(26:22):
because then any film set, you've got so many witnesses,
so many people see this, that they're all too scared
to come forward.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Always a pleasure. Catherine seen ext Tuesday, Catherine Field in
France at nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
The Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Talk, z'd be Heathrows. Fascinating because we'll talk to a
rod about it later. But they will warned a decade
ago about what happened over the weekend would happen. So
Thomas Walby, who runs Heathrow these days, goes, I'm personally
quite proud of how quickly the airport responded to the
power outage. This situation was not created a teeth throw,
It was created outside the airport and we had to

(26:56):
deal all the consequences. Go back a decade to the
Jacob's report entitled Operational Risk Ground Infrastructure Heathrow Airport. It said,
quote beyond the management of supplying grid services which lie
outside the airport's control, the responsibility for managing electricity supply
risk lies with the airport and businesses operating from the airport. Whoops.

(27:18):
Outages could cause disruption to passengers, baggage and aircraft handling functions,
and could require closure of areas of affected terminals and
potentially in the entire airport. Even a brief interruption to
electricity supplies could have a long lasting impact on systems
and take much time to recover. That was ten years ago.
Then three years ago, warnings were also raised about demand

(27:38):
out stripping supply at the substation supplying Heathrow. So it
wasn't like they hadn't had plenty of warnings and they
still did absolutely nothing about it. And so they'll do
another report in which will point out the obvious and
they will still end up doing nothing about it. Five
minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
All the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with
business tiber take your business from activity to the next.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Slide out What are we doing for Easter booking dot
com this morning? Domestically internationally, domestically, where are we going?
Where we going? We'll go ten through one Napier tenth
New Plymouth, Hamna Springs, I Love Hamna Springs, Towering and Wellington,
Tawerpo christ you to ride a rua Auckland and Queenstown.
Queenstown's always number one. Search numbers are doubling and trebling,
So I mean a search is not a booking, but

(28:21):
you would have to say that a lot of people
are looking. So Easter could be big news for the
tourism sector internationally. Where do we want to go? Bangkok, Brisbane, Bali, Fiji, Singapore, RaRo, Melbourne, Tokyo,
Sydney and the Gold Coaster is the number one search
at the moment for the international travel if you're traveling
over the Easter period. They also collected data, interestingly from Australians. Now,

(28:43):
where are the Australians looking to go. Let me read
you ten through one and see if you can spot
a See if you can spot a theme here? Where
are the Australians looking to go?

Speaker 18 (28:50):
Well?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Number ten is Bali or one place in Bali Osaka
Partong Beach in Thailand. They've been watching White Lotus, Ubert
and Bali so too. Bali actually chango in Bali. They
can't get enough Bali, semgnac Bali. They just love Ballei.
Oh my jeez, Mite, let's go to Bali. Where would
you like to go, Sharon? Bali? Fabulous? Where's not Bali? Tokyo,

(29:17):
Singapore and Queenstown. Queenstown's the only New Zealand destination that
Australians are looking for. What does that tell you about
my Je's not Balley?

Speaker 21 (29:26):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Hey? You can't compete with Barley? Now after seven o'clock?
What are we looking at this rama? Things? Should we
get excited about this? I mean, in theory it sounds exciting,
but I got excited when David Parker said, to tell
you what I'm going to reform the rama? Then he
produced an encyclopedia over nine hundred pages long that went nowhere.
So is anything actually going to happen this time around.

(29:47):
We'll have a look at this after the news which
is next here at News Talk.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
SAT me the only report you need to start your
day on my casting breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate altogether
better across rest csidential, commercial and rural news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Seven past seven? Has anything been changed? Talked about? Fought
over more than the Resource Management Act for goodness sake,
and now more change. We'll have new planning laws which
allegedly will come in well, it will overcome the culture
of no allegedly big claimers. Administrative and compliance costs will
be cut by forty five percent. Chair of the government's
RAMA Expert Advisory Group, Janette Campbell, is with us. Jeanette,
morning to.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
You, Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Are you guys still a thing? I thought you'd been
disbanded and sorted out? Or am I completely wrong on that?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (30:30):
We have delivered our report to the government and that's
the end of the main work of the EAG, but
some of us are staying on to help with the
next phase of the reforms.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Broadly speaking, are we heading in the right direction?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I think so? My report so yes, I think it
is headed it's in the right direction.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
So I got excited over David Parker who said we
need to sort this out. This is a mess, and
he went and produced nine hundred plus pages of an encyclopedia.
Is this going to be any different?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, I absolutely hope.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
So I too was excited about that reforms and I
think we have drawn on what happened there and one
of our key ambitions is to simplify matters.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Can you.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, I think we can.

Speaker 6 (31:10):
I think there's a lot that can be done. We
looked at overseas examples, the Scottish and typical Tesciturn Scott's
fashion have got national policy which runs to a couple
of pages.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
I think there's a lot that we can move from
from overseas.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
So it is fair to suggest that the complexity of
the rules has weaponized what's going on. And I cite this.
I assume you're up with it. There's k road building
in Auckland that was turned down. The wind farm last
week was turned down under fast track in Southland. There
seems to be no end of ability for people to
hire lawyers and stall stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yep, absolutely fair criticism.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I and so how do you get around that? You're
just simply not allowed to stall stuff anymore. And if
you want to do something, you can do it. Can
you make it that simple, or does the pendulum and
then swing so far back the other way you end
up building monstrosities you later regret.

Speaker 6 (31:59):
I think there's two parts, so that the first part
is about that k road building. Under our recommended system,
we're going to make use of nationally standardized zones, which
are set nationally with public input. I would imagine that
site would have a commercial zoning that would commit activities
like commercial buildings, So it would be very unlikely to

(32:20):
even need a consent in a case like that, so
there wouldn't be opportunity to weaponize the legislation and to
hold it up.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
So that's the first thing. The second thing in terms.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
Of the environment is our direction from the government was
really clear that we did need to protect environmental bottom lines,
and we've done that through the Environment Acts. So we
are hoping that we can walk that tension between development
and protecting what's really important to us as a country.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
And we think we've done it. We've walked that line.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Hope you're right, Jeanette go well appreciated. Jeanette Campbell, RMA
Advisory Group Chair with the k Road building a verse
effects from building height and form new buildings to be
complementary to the existing and planned character of precincts. I mean,
what does that even mean complementary? Is that complementary? You
ask me? Yes, yes, Bob no. So I mean that's
the sort of nonsense you're dealing with. You don't know

(33:14):
what the building is. It doesn't matter. I'll broach it
with the Prime Minister later on, but it just seems
a lot of waffle and if you want to find
an excuse not to do something, you can. As for
the wind farm in Southland, I literally don't understand it.
Once again, I'll ask the Prime Minister under the fast
track and when I say fast track, the previous government's
fast track under the fast Track renewables wind Southland got

(33:35):
turned down. How's that possible? Eleven past seven PASKI super
depressing news around drugs. I'm here to tell your new
police annual wastewater drug testing ninety six percent spike in
meth seven hundred and thirty two kilos of the stuff.
It's gone to one point four tons last year. Massy
drug researcher Chris Wilkins is with us. Chris, very good
morning to you.

Speaker 16 (33:55):
Yep, good morning mite.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Different people, all the same people doing a lot more drugs.

Speaker 16 (34:01):
Well, that's one of the big questions. I think it's
a little bit of both. But certainly the price has
gone down and their availability is higher, so to expect
your regular users are using more unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
And do we know if it's I've given up the
coke for the meth or the weed for the meth
or we don't know that either.

Speaker 16 (34:20):
This is predominantly meth. So cocaine went down a little bit.
And this just represents the changes in the drug market
that we're seeing when we're moving from a local brick
and mortar store to a global online platform, and the
kind of changes people have seen in the retail world
and the legal economy that's coming to the drug market

(34:41):
at the moment.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Unreal. And obviously this is wastewater, so we don't know
the minutia. But does it gangs? Do we know if
it's gangs mainly gangs.

Speaker 16 (34:49):
Gangs for playing their part, But as I said, really
we're drug trafficking is now leveraging off the digital world.
So there's been changes in all the different levels of
the market from production all the way to retail where
they're leveraging of social media platforms. So it's a real
changing environment now and I think we've got to accept

(35:11):
that and start to reconceptualize what a drug market's about.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Are the police behind the eight ball on this, Are
they on top of this in an ee way, shape
or form or not.

Speaker 16 (35:21):
Well, their job is to respond to the effects, so
things like greater wastewater, declining prices. But I think there's
a real challenge about distinguishing between effects and root causes
what's driving these changes, and that takes a bit more
of analysis about knowing how that market has changed, as
I said, changing from that bricks and water to this

(35:42):
digital platform and large scale industrial production, and that takes
a bit of analysis.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Are we a drug add old country? I mean, do
we compare ourselves to other countries in terms of tonnage
in the water?

Speaker 16 (35:56):
Well, it depends on what rug we're talking about. So
if we're talking about are very much high up there.
But of course we have really low reel sort of
heroin use, which is a really great thing, and cocaine
is very low So it's a little bit of both
but I think we're in the eye of the storm
a little bit in the sense of that we're part

(36:18):
of a region that's now under a lot of competition
for drug manufacture, for meth and fedamin macufacture from Southeast
Asia and Central America. So there's a real price war
now going on in this the area of the world.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes, all right, Chris, appreciate it. Chris Wilkins, who is
a drug researcher at Massive University, world hopeful cerently thirteen
minutes past seven. You're a hypocrite, not that I support football,
but how can you criticize the all rights when you
wax lyrical about the Warriors. Well I can wax lyrical
about the Warriors because we've been to the final twice.
And yes we have poor years, but we've been to

(36:50):
the final twice. If you can cite me the particular
tournament at the World Cup we went to the final,
then go for it. But you know that's what I'm
talking about. Go get excited about it if you want
to get it inside about football, and we'll talk about
in a moment. Britaant go for it. But we seem
to get excited, we seem to give ourselves in a
completely different criteria when it comes to the World Cup,
because the World Cup's the biggest thing in the sport

(37:13):
world and the fact that we just get to turn
up seems to put us into this fizz. I've also
got a question round mevo and byd for you. In
a moment fourteen passed.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
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Speaker 2 (37:29):
At b Mike over five years to get a resource
consent through for a second birth at Gisbane Port. Two
and a half years to get a car park consent
of for Gisbane Port. Thank you, Rob. I don't think
there's any shortage of examples of how badly wrong this
whole thing has gone. Mike and January. I wanted to
build a replace a fifty year old aluminium window in
my villa with a wooden one. Auckland Council said I
needed to get a ten thousand dollars resource consent fee
with the consultant report. See I don't believe that. I

(37:52):
think that's not true, and yet it's so bizarre. Maybe
I do believe it. At the end of the day,
I followed the tower on the port with a great
deal of interest, and that's a joke. Beyond a joke.
That's the most successful port in the country. They want
to expand. Why do they want to expand so they
can do more business? Is doing more business for New Zealand? Good?
Yes it is, So why don't we do more business? Well,

(38:13):
because they've been held up in court after court after court.
It's been going on for years. It's just literally ridiculous.
The BYD and mebo thing yesterday. So I'm wondering downtown
and there's a lot of me those around the place.
We're talking about. I'll come back to that. We're going
to do Andrew. Now, all right, we've had a problem
with Andrew pregnall of the football, but now we've got
it sorted. Andrew Pregnell is the boss of New Zealand Football. Andrew,

(38:34):
morning to you much, thanks for having me, not at all.
Twenty five thousand, Glenn and I were arguing off here
about there's twenty five thousands not a big crowd. Why
wasn't it sold out? Is football really that bigger? We
over fizzing ourselves on this or not.

Speaker 23 (38:49):
We're definitely huge in terms of participation. Obviously the biggest
sport in the country by a fairly long mile. I
think there's a lot of things going on. Monday night
it's always a bit tough, but you know, to see
twenty plus thousand sharp and WELLINGDN forty five thousand across
the couple of days, the amount of content going on
and the atmosphere in the crowd last night phenomenal. So yeah,

(39:09):
look we're in a pretty heavy space.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Long as long as you please. As far as the
World Cup is concerned, what are you expecting to do?
Because the other thing is we get excited about draws.
Are we going to win? Are we going to win
something and do well and get out of the main round?

Speaker 23 (39:24):
Look, I think this is the greatest group of talent
that we've seen in the mainspase for well, probably ever.
We've got four players signed the Premier league clubs. They're
all professionals paying around the world. Now, the expectations should
be high. We're certainly not going to participate, but yeah,
the script, there's the capability not only to win games
but get out of the group.

Speaker 16 (39:44):
Key.

Speaker 23 (39:44):
We should be very very excited.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
And very proud of a scrip of young men. And
every time we go and I remember Lady two for
a start, and that was genuinely exciting. But every time
we go, does it parley into kids playing you know, balls,
getting kicked on streets and the whole thing.

Speaker 23 (40:00):
Yes, yes, yes, I mean I think the participation side
is just anonymous, so I mean the having a quit
see here now, you know, with like a third day
league club. To be frank, the growth of the game
is sort of unstoppable, so I don't have a foreign effect.
I mean last night the kid's going crazy have a
Crestworad who is now a global headlines around the world. Yeah,

(40:23):
it's a phenomenal time for us.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Good stuff. Andrew and Joy appreciate it very much. Andrew pregnant.
As regards the crowds Auckland get the same number for
a regular league game. The Warriors get the same thing
Saturday and Saturday out was my only reason for the
question for a World Cup follow.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
The Warriors get twenty five thousand people to turn up
on a Monday.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Night, easy and then some watch them. Any to name
a day name of stadium, I can give you twenty
three to twenty five seven.

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and nine Pasking seventy twenty four. So June twenty twenty
six right, June twenty twenty six not far off. In fact,
it's next year, and next year's election year. Of course,
by that time, it has been reported this week the interest,
the interest bill on our national debt will be eleven
billion dollars. You see how this works. Not long ago
I was sitting here on this program, the warnings were
being issued that it might reach ten billion, ten and

(42:20):
at the time it was pointed out that that ten
is about two lots of the police budget, two times
the police, just an interest. Once we pay the ten billion,
our debt doesn't diminish. It's exactly the same. We've gone nowhere.
We've just kept the wolf from the debt door for
another twelve months. Well the ten has now gone. We're
heading towards eleven, two lots of police and another billion
dollars on top. Why because, as the Finance Minister is

(42:41):
pointing out and keeps warning, she is doing this, by
the way, because it's budget's getting closer but as she
keeps warning, the cost of borrowing is going up. Why
because we're a greater risk risky people who want money
have to pay a higher price. It's why credit card
debt is more expensive than mortgage money. The government sells bonds,
they ask for money in return, and they will give
you interest for you to give them the money. You
want a decent return, don't you, Yes, you do. Last

(43:02):
time they put out ten year bonds. The other week
they were paying four point six two percent big interest
bill on billions and billions of debt. Remembering also that
they're adding to that debt each and every year until
they reach an annual surplus. And even if they reach
an annual surplus, which they aren't, they're not going to
for years. All you've achieved is not adding to the
pile of debt. Even if you add not one more

(43:24):
dollar to that debt, the debt doesn't shrink. It demands
another eleven billion dollars from you to pay the interest bill.
The mistake that is so often made as we look
at other countries and go, oh, look at their debt.
It's more than ours, either in dollar terms or a
percentage of GDP. What isn't pointed out is how small
and how vulnerable and how unable we are to grow
our way out of this particular problem we owe a lot,

(43:44):
and ratings agencies, although not alarmed, are these days alert
to the problem. This government were left with a shedload
of debt from an economically criminal previous government, and that
bill is now sitting about to hit by June next
year eleven billion dollars a year, or if you want
to put it another way, over thirty million dollars a day,

(44:04):
every day forever, Lasking. I'm in town yesterday. It's Monday
really a thing? And Glenson is Monday a thing anymore?
I mean everyone's working from home, if we're working at all.
And when Luke Holmbs and Coldplay and Taylor Swims come
to the country and they're a concert on a Wednesday, going, oh,
would have gone if it wasn't for a Wednesday, it's

(44:25):
no longer a thing. It's just days and days.

Speaker 24 (44:27):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I'm in town yesterday for a meeting, and I want
to pass these Mevo cars And if you don't know
Mivo around the rest of the country, they're sort of
subscription cars and they sit on the street and you
through an app, you grab it for an hour and
drive it around town and park it somewhere else. Anyway.
Suddenly occurs to me, they're all filthy now, not just Meba,
I'm not picking on mevo. Any car that sits in
a city outside for days on it is filthy. And

(44:50):
what about inside? When you pay money for a car?
What if the pig before you spilt coffee on it,
left you and gum under the seat and the place
is a mess and it's all dusty and dirty in yuck,
and you paid good money. I don't know that they are.
I'm just wondering. As I wanted past the Meeba, I thought,
why am I paying money for a dirty, filthy car?
Do I care? Maybe? I don't care? But do they
ever clean them? When do they get washed? Who comes

(45:12):
by and washes them? Who picks them up? Who cleans them?
What's the understanding you have as a hier that it
will be in good fit state? Let's ask the Prime Minister.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
Next.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, togs Head,
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Speaker 2 (45:31):
Murray's on the program oprot hasn't been here for seventeen years.
When he's back for a series of cons You've got
a major tour of Australia in New Zealand over the
next couple of months anyways, with a shortly meantime of
twenty three minutes away from make the Prime Minister joints us.
Good morning to you, morning, Mike how I I'm very well. Indeed,
I would, at the risk of being overtly political, I'd
like to congratulate you on what you did last week

(45:52):
because I read a lot about it, and what everyone
seemed to agree on was it was exhausting. There was
very little downtime, and I noted in your voice by
at the end of it you could barely speak, so
it seems to have been a success.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Yeah, Look, it was a really great week, Mic. I mean,
you come away from a place like India, going, man,
there's so much opportunity. I mean, this is a country
it doesn't You can debate their growth rates and whether
it's enough and all that sort of stuff, but the
bottom line is, you know, man, in the next twenty
thirty fifty years, this place is going to go from
low to middle income and it's working hard. To get
to higher income and there's just you got four hundred
and fifty five million people sitting in the middle class

(46:29):
there that actually have a huge demand formw zeone products
and services. So and you know, you've got a population
the size bigger than China, and yet we've got probably
one twentieth of the trade being done with India. So
I was really pleased. We had a really good connection
with Promeinis to Modi. We got on very well in
that we did some extra stuff together which was great
than planned. We managed to launch the comprehensive FTA. That'll

(46:49):
be a pretty tough conversation now, but we will do
the best deal we can for New Zealand. And then yeah,
we just we had a good community business delegation who
made some good connections to you, which was great. So no, really,
it's just a good reminder, Mike, sometimes you can get
out of the bubble and go out in the world
and actually feel, man, there's no reason we should be
thinking opportunity not not problem.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Quite great. So you're doing that, Peters is doing Rubio
and then you come back home to a pole that's
got you. I can't remember the number. Is that one
of those issues poles that everyone hates you anyway, So
is that deflating.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Well, I didn't come to politics four years ago to
worry about poles. I came here to get the things
sorted and faxed it on the right track. So you know,
I know what my mission and purposes, which is yep.
It's tough for Kiwi's yep. They want us to go faster.
People like you keep pushing me to go even faster
and faster. I get it. We've got some good things
starting to happen. I mean, we are starting to turn
the corner. I reckon. I mean, you saw the GDP

(47:44):
numbers up in the fourth quarter last year. That's a
year after taking government. You've seen interest rates come down.
We're expecting another cuts in April and May. You're seeing
inflation get under control. I mean, I don't know when
you saw the numbers out of the primary sector, but
you know, dairy's looking great. Red meet us talking to
Nathan guy the other day, they reckon there's another one
point two billion in red meat this year. Even the

(48:05):
wool guys have been in really a lot of pain.
You know, they're doing a lot better this year. So
you know, agriculture's looking good, Services and Manufacturing group the
first time. Recently, tourism's up twenty three percent, So it's coming,
it's coming. I know that's hard for people to hear,
and it is really difficult and it's frustrating, but my god,
this is what happens when you inherit a hell of
a mess from that, and I've got to fix.

Speaker 18 (48:26):
It, can you.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I know what you announced yesterday, and I applaud you
for that as well as long as something comes off,
because the announcements on a rem are more fulsome than
the results on RMI. Tell me how you can have
a wind farm? The wind farm was rejected under the
previous government's fast Train I know what you're talking about
it right, So how is it you can't have a
renewable facility under fast I mean, what do you need

(48:48):
to do well?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I mean, first of all, that's under Parker's old fast
track provisions, which that one I can't come on. This
was a project, but by what I will say is
like that was insanely stupid. And I mean what we've
got under our fast tracked legislation because our priority is
on economic growth that trumps everything. And I know people
give me grief on that, but I'm sorry. We are
over it and we have to grow.

Speaker 10 (49:09):
And so.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Our our priority and fast track legislation is what's going
to drive economic growth regionally or nationally. Projects of that
should be approved. We need more wind farms in this country.
That was a great location for it. You know, let's
see what happens next with that project.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Okay, but then you've got these issues. For example, the
Council's stopping the clock on building is one, and the
fungal rate Court decision that came out yesterday on flu
ride is another. How much resistance are you facing from
people who will use every mechanism possible to stall you,
slow you and run their own agenda.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Well when we're pretty clear right about it or I am,
which is that we're facing a massive culture in New
Zealand of no everyone gets to weaponize the RMA, everyone
gets to say no to everything, everyone gets to comment
on everything, even if it's on people's own property rights.
So you know, the council stuff's classic. I mean, Chris
Penkas for some reporting, they're supposed to know a pre
building consents. I think within twenty days buy and large

(50:04):
up and down the country, and then what happens is
they issue a request for more information about your debt,
bracing or whatever it is that they're trying to get
a building consent for, and then it gets stalled out
and it's insanely stupid. I mean, it now takes us
nineteen months to build a standard three to four bedroom
house in this country and it's fifty percent more expensive
than Australia, forget the land. So you know we have

(50:25):
we've got housing crisis. But either you choose to get
to the root cause the problem, which is it's this stuff.
I know, it's insanely frustrating and it's bureaucracy and it's
just treacl but we have to keep pushing against it.
And that's why we're saying, look self certification of builders,
certainly about embracing overseas products, the RMA reforms that we're
going to do. I mean RMA has been religion for

(50:46):
the last twenty years or so and just wittering and
talking about it, but we've whacked and fast tracked within
the first few weeks we kicked that off, get into
government that's working well or will work well, and then
the RMA reforms without yesterday is we're going to have
legislation the House by the end of this year. I
mean normally it goes on for years, like decades, and
you know the last lot made changes under Parker and
the implementation was over a ten year period. I mean,

(51:07):
you can't have that. We've got simplified, We have simplified
planning laws big time to make things, get things done.
So but you're right, there's this, I mean there's just
a culture of no. And that's what I said earlier
in the year. We have to fight that and say
let's start with yes and then then work from there,
not not no, which is what's been happening.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
So another example was o ring A Toma Ricki. So
so the under the previous government literally literally know when
got evicted. So the rules change and they can evic.
So they're starting with people. And yet the other day
you want to go because you're in India, of but anyway,
there's a case I tom Riki go to the tenancy tribunal.
This bloke's dealing with drugs. He's shooting people literally, this
is kayang Aria. Sorry sorry my apologies. And so he's

(51:44):
there is there's gun violences, threats, Yes, drugs is the
usual thing. Anyway, There's there's a litany of stuff against
the bloke. The tenancy tribunal goes, no, he can stay
because you haven't proved any of it. I mean, you
know that's what you're up against. So you go, yep,
shouldn't trush. So what do you do?

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Yeah, where you got to keep pushing and having that fight.
I mean, you know, we started that fight again early
on and when we first came to power around you know,
Chris Bishop did a good job on that around unruly tenants.
There have been endless complaints and I think three people
or something ridiculous evicted from Crown government houses. These are
houses that your taxpayer colleagues citizens are paying for you
in a tough time to get a state house. And

(52:21):
if you don't treat it with respect, there's twenty thousand
people on the wait lists who desperate would love to
go at having a.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
State But you say that you agree, But by the
time you get to the tenancy tribunal, Brian's there going, oh, no,
you didn't prove, so he can stay. So the problem
is not solved, is it.

Speaker 8 (52:37):
No?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
But then you've got to you've got to keep pushing
at it, and you've got to keep taking on the
it's a cultural problem we've got right in New Zealand.
We are culturally saying no to stuff and finding excuses
for stuff, and we've actually got to push back on
the culture and when we need to, as we've been
trying to do. Then you're rushing through a lot of
legislation under urgency to come in over the top. So
we know this is what we are going to do
in this country. This is the law of the land.

(52:58):
We expect it to be uphold. But that notion, whether
it's been I've faced the same challenge on benefit sanctions. Right,
I'm sorry, but if you're not out there looking for
a job, which is your job, you're not going to
get a resume together, you're not showing up to interviews,
you're not many with your case manager, then we are
sanctioning your benefits. Now, that's rights and responsibilities. That's a
culture that we had growing up in New Zealand we
need to put back into the country again. And that's

(53:20):
where a lot of this gets into. It's culture of
rights and responsibilities, and it's a culture of yes not no.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I was reading Niicola Willis has got the red flag
up at the moment on the cost of servicing dead.
How worried are you it will approach in the middle
of next year eleven billion dollars on the interest just
as gone from ten to eleven billion dollars just to
service and interests, and you're still not running surpluses, so
you're adding to it. How big handbreak is that on success?

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Look, it's really hard. I mean, you know the story,
but it's one of the things I don't think the
public have registered from the last lot is that they
inherited five billion of dead and I thought they run
it up over one hundred and ten billion. We've now
got an interest bill, which people's mortgages have been but
now we've got ten to eleven billion of interest. Think
about that. That's more than what we've probably spent on education, policing, justice,

(54:06):
you know, at schools, hospitals, roads. We can't build because
we're just paying a debt back and we've got nothing
for the debt that was run up by the last lot. Nothing,
no better schools, roads, housing, nothing, nothing, productivity enhancing whatsoever.
So that's why you'll hear me often say it and
get pretty fired up about it's economic mismanagement and vandalism
from the last lot, and they just sort of gas
lighting and pretending it didn't happen. It did happen, and

(54:28):
it's caused huge pain and suffering for us and then
puts massive pressure on our books. So it's hard. I mean,
it's hard, but we've got to get the books back
into order over time. It's going to take time, there's
no doubt about that. While we're also trying to sort
of change the we're sort of like driving the car
and changing the wheel. At the same time, we're trying
to get the financial discipline place to get the books right.
But that's not easy. I mean, it's easy to spend

(54:48):
the money. It's easy to take on debt. It's the
easiest option in the world. Debt is good if it's
for productivity, enhancing infrastructure and good stuff like that. But
it wasn't used in that way. It was just pure
consumption and it was out of control, and it leads
to the situation we've got now with a hangover of
an interest bill that is money we can't spend setting
the country up for even more success. So yep, that's
the reality of the cards that I've been dealt and

(55:11):
my government's been dealt. We're working our way through it,
but it does give people a sense of how difficult
it is. But we're determined to put financial discipline back
into the joint again.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Appreciate your time. Prime Minster, Christopher lux Than thirteen to Wait.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
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Speaker 2 (55:28):
Be turned away. Our reference briefly Fungaray District Council and
their session with fluoride or lack of it in the water.
They went to court with money. They didn't have your
money if you're in the region, and they hadn't set
any amount aside. They just decided or cocka Rulo decided
that he'd liked to go to jail rather than floridate
the water. And so that went back and forth, and

(55:49):
they had all their angsty meetings that I outlined on
the program. The other day. They went to court, court
came back yesterday, just as Karen Grau, the council's refusal
demonstrated regard for legal obligations. No kidding, because Ashley Bloomfield,
if you didn't know the story before he left, said
a bunch of councils around the country. You got to
fluoridate the water. He was allowed to do that. He
has the power to do that. Twenty four page judgment

(56:12):
demonstrated a concerning public disregard for the legal obligations of
a local authority for four months. Cocker RULEO, funnily enough,
wouldn't comment. I wonder, why what a dick. So you've
wasted everybody's money, you've wasted everybody's time, and then you
won't even be held to account. So I hope you're

(56:33):
happy fung array, and I hope you turn up and
vote the appropriate way. Nine minutes away.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
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Communities News togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Sicks away from it. The Jeremy Clarkson writing in the
British Press is very funny because he's had a run
in with Musk. Years ago. He reviewed an early Tesla
and he said, and it was a straight up and
down review. He said, basically, it doesn't work very well,
doesn't drive very well, it's not a very good car.
And Musk suedom and he lost. And so anyway, there's
been this back and forth and anyway, rights over the
weekend as cluts. And what makes it so juicy, this

(57:05):
is the Musk demise at the moment, as everyone around
America seems to be setting tesla's on fire. What makes
it so juicy is that he's being pecked to death
by the very people who put him on the pedestal
in the first place. The eco hippies, the zero disciples
of Ed Milliband and Al Gore. They love designed ear
of electrical cars running on nothing but wind and sunshine.
And they swooned when he provided a eco fresh starling

(57:26):
communication technology to those poor beleaged soldiers in Ukraine. How
do you feel now as you sit in your Tesla
while an army of like minded souls kicked the door
mirrors off. And what people don't seem to have understood
and these idiots setting charges and cars and stuff on
fire and booting them in, is that they're probably attacking
their own because they've decided that just because you bought

(57:46):
a Tesla, you must be a fan of Musk, which
is not the case at all. It was an environmental
decision for many people, of course, and they tend to
be lefties and greenies. It's not just the left rights
Clarks and that get their knickers at a twist. But
they are by far the most rampant pro active, mainly
because so few of them have jobs to distract them
from whatever prevailing political wind blew through their tent flat
that morning. Then you got all those deluded fools who

(58:08):
bought one of the company's cars. They make their purchasing
decision and good faith, and work hard to make the
repayments each month, even though I think it's nothing more
than a weeeled white good. It's their pride and joy.
It's not fair for someone with hairy armpits and no
job to set fire to it. Of course, I'd love
to remind you all Tesla drivers that I warned you
seventeen years ago that no good would come of your
buying choice, but you didn't listen. You chose to believe

(58:31):
mister Musk. So he's all coming. It's all coming right
for Jeremy at the moment now, Mike, listen, lux and
starting to hit a strike. I tend to agree Mike.
Today's call with the primers to confirm what I've been saying.
It's going to take a generation to get over the
six years of economic and social vandalism by labor not
one political term. Will you say that? But look at

(58:51):
the poles. There's enough people in the polls at the
moment to say we'll have some more of that labor please,
and toss a little bit of green, Toss a little
bit of the tomato to party. Mario on board. We're
loving that. Look at the poles, Look at the numbers.
Did the numbers lie? How do you sit here in
the quagmire that we have economically knowing who did it
and going, oh yeah, we'll have some more on that please.

(59:11):
So that's going to be a contest in the debate
next year. Mike Little Weimakarrera United has nine hundred and
thirty registered members across all greats, turned down a further
thirty du to stretch facilities. Peter Little wymaka Little Wymac United,
She's hot in the Wymac newsw in a couple of moments,
and then Pete Murray for a song.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Cat Mike has game will be stateful, engaging and vital,
the mic casking, breakfast with the range rover, the law
designed to intrigue and use togs.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
He'd bakes.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
You know how you say.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Lao Littil You fault. Now, there's been seventeen years since
Murray turd here. His first EP was released way back
in two thousand and one, but it was two thousand
and three when the oldum feeler with the hits on
Beautiful met A put a rocket under proceedings. He's at
last coming back. There's a fifty five day tour in
Australia which includes four stops here. He's got famous recently though,

(01:00:14):
as well for his appearance on the cover of Men's
Health All Ripped and is the beneficiary of healthy living
and good diet, So we've got to talk about that.
Pete Murray's with us from the Mighty Byron Bay. Good morning,
Thanks Mike in sane back. First of all, Byron Bay,
have the Hemsworth wrecked it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:00:32):
I don't think so.

Speaker 24 (01:00:32):
All that's it's I think, look, I know the guys,
they're good fellas and they get a lot of attention
of course anywhere they go, but you know, being Byron
and so it's pretty hard to to not stand out
when you're Hemsworth, I guess.

Speaker 18 (01:00:47):
But look, good guys, they're.

Speaker 24 (01:00:51):
Lovely family, actually really nice, So no, I don't think
they pricked the place at all. It's a lot of
people have come and changed the place over time. For me,
it's really the thing I loved about when I first
moved here to Byron was that it was had such
a real bohemian feel, and that's kind of lost the
loot now because a lot of hippies that with it
were here can't afford to be in the place anymore.

(01:01:13):
And it needs to be the drumming circle up near
the main beach that the guy there'd be like, you know,
fifty to one hundred people just drumming and dancing and
you know, jingling and jangling, and it was just that
was kind of a lot of fun.

Speaker 18 (01:01:23):
But we missed that.

Speaker 24 (01:01:24):
And I first, when I first moved here, I had
a Coombe. I've still got my Combie in nineteen seventy seven,
So you'd be driving past Comby Homers all the time,
you know, doing the Combe sign. And there's not too
many combies left on the roads anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So I was going to ask you about that. I mean,
do you have Byron Bay kred because you were in
Byron Bay before it became you know, Byron Bay, Well,
who knows.

Speaker 18 (01:01:46):
I mean, I feel like I do.

Speaker 24 (01:01:47):
I feel like I came here, you know, in the
early days when there weren't too many artists and well
known people living in the area or too much wealth
in the area. Well shouldn't say that's still very wealthy
place for a lot of peop people, but there was
also you know, the hippies could live here and the
people that were kind of made the town what it was.
I think they were able to live here and they

(01:02:09):
can't afford anymore, which is a shame. That's the thing
I really missed about the place now. But it's still
a beautiful part of the world. And that's why, you know,
people want to come and live here because it is
such a stunning place. So the beaches are incredible, and
you know, the town itself is just a beautiful town.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
And was it creative and is it still creative for
a person like you?

Speaker 24 (01:02:25):
Look, I think it's just evolved over time.

Speaker 18 (01:02:29):
I think Byron and I came here in the early nineties.

Speaker 24 (01:02:33):
For me, I came and saw this place and the
first time, you know, it's changed a little bit, still
the same at what it is, So I think it's
just evolved over time. I remember friends who were my wife,
for example, who was born and raised in this area.
You know, the Beach Hotel was the main hotel in
town there that looks over the ocean. There used to
be a bit of a rough, rough pub years ago,

(01:02:55):
I think, a bit of a bikey hang out.

Speaker 18 (01:02:57):
But it's changed a bit now.

Speaker 24 (01:02:58):
But it's like I said, it's evolved what it is,
but it still has this Really it's a peaceful spot
to be. Everyone sort of chills out when they come here,
and that's the that's the beautiful thing about it. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Was it affected by that big storm the other day
By the way.

Speaker 24 (01:03:12):
There was a few trees that were blown down here
wasn't as bad as what everyone was thinking. Unfortunately, I
wasn't even here well fortunately, but I think for me
being away, I was in West Australia doing a show
and I had my family over there so we had
a holiday when it was all coming through, it was
a bit hard not being here to help people and
just sort of hoping for the best. And you know,
but our place was fine. We had a massive gum

(01:03:33):
tree went down. Lots of gum trees went down actually
in those in that storm. So but look, I think
the place wasn't as bad as what they thought it
was going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Okay, listen, hold on, we'll come to this health kick
here on in just a couple of moments. Speak Murray
out of bar and By in Australia, eleven past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
You talk to me thirteen past eight. Pete Murray's with us.
He's on his way here. I'll give you the other
dates and times of just a couple of months. Now
listen to this health business. And now you're big on health,
and well what have you done for yourself? And that
sort of culminated in the cover of Men's Health and
I come to that in a moment. But what have
you done for yourself? And what would you say to
people by way of a health journey as to its
value life wise?

Speaker 24 (01:04:17):
Well, look for me, Mike, my dad died when I
was he was forty seven, I was eighteen. So for me,
I've always been involved in athletics and swimming and rugby.
That was they were my you know, three big sports.
I love them and I always remained sort of healthy.
I never wanted to be unfit so you know, when
dad died, it was even more of I guess a

(01:04:39):
factor for me to go make sure they look after
my health, make sure they eat well, and I look
after himself because his dad also had a stroke and
we started to go, Okay, there's a bit of hereditary
heart diseases, so we've got to be careful. I've been
tested and I'm fine. You know, they've been told I shouldn't,
I shouldn't drop out of a heart attack, so let's
hope that doesn't happen. But I feel healthy and fit,
and look, you know in Byron Bay have healthy food,

(01:05:01):
your organic food. We try to eat as organic food
as possible. And I think just keeping you know, as
you get older, you really got to keep up your
strength and your and your fitness, otherwise you start to
fall away. And it's harder as you get older, harder
to sort of keep to maintain that once you start
to lose it.

Speaker 18 (01:05:19):
But I've always been kind of kept healthy and fit.

Speaker 16 (01:05:23):
I just like it.

Speaker 18 (01:05:24):
I feeling that way now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Of course, the color of men's health. I mean a
lot of us, you know, are healthy and do well
and all that sort of stuff, but we don't eat
up on the cover of Men's Healthy. You really, I
mean looking at you, you look not far shorter than
the donners. How did how did you get to that point?

Speaker 18 (01:05:38):
Well? That was you know, that was just kind of
luck how that happened. I had.

Speaker 24 (01:05:43):
I was buying some shoes off the trainers who I
was doing that with M and Chief and the shoes
didn't arrive. So they've felt really bad. And the said, look,
can we can we at least off you a fitness program?
And and I said, well, look, you know what, You've
actually got a few of my friends on the cover
of Men's Health, So I'll take a fitness program for sure.

Speaker 18 (01:06:04):
And they said, well, let's make let's make it our
goal to get you on the cover. So I did this.
It was diet. It was the biggest thing for me.

Speaker 24 (01:06:11):
I'd always been sort of working hard with my training,
but I wasn't probably looking after the dietary side it
that well, to drop the fat.

Speaker 18 (01:06:19):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:06:20):
So I've got a full carbs and all sugars, and
I don't have a lot of sugar anyway. But when
you cut all sugars out on your diet, man, do
you start craving sugar in the first week, I just
was dreaming of Mars bars and ice cream.

Speaker 18 (01:06:33):
I couldn't get out of my head, you know, like
I never think about that stuff.

Speaker 24 (01:06:36):
But once you drop all that stuff and then all
the carbs, I just really sort of had a really
lean diet, lean meat, salads and gus and that's what
I stuck too.

Speaker 18 (01:06:45):
So that was with my training.

Speaker 24 (01:06:46):
We just changed a bit to really sort of increase
my heart rate while I was still doing my strength work,
and the weight just dropped off. So in twelve weeks,
I was I think I was ninety three kilo, which
I'm normally at most of the time. I dropped down
to eighty one. So on that cover, I was like,
I was quite too lean for me, I thought, But
you know, sticking to that program, I just shreaded down

(01:07:09):
and you know, you've got to see six pack back
there again, which is nice. I've kind of maintained that
a bit now, not probably to that level, but I'm
still maintaining.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
This because one of the things correct me if I'm wrong.
Once you put the energy in the effort and you
don't want to go.

Speaker 18 (01:07:22):
Back, correct, yeah you don't.

Speaker 24 (01:07:23):
And I think, just like I said, with m got
me on this on this diet, which I still stick
to pretty much, you know, and just taking a lot
of sugars and carbs out and I like that.

Speaker 18 (01:07:37):
So I like you feel a lot leaner. You're not
carrying you know, I think you carrying a bit of
weight around your face. Just don't do that anymore, you know.

Speaker 24 (01:07:44):
So and at you're training, I just I have less
breaks in between the sets so that I kind of
keep the heart rate up and you just keep you
just keep burning that fuel and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Good for your performance as well, apart from anything I'm assuming.

Speaker 18 (01:07:56):
Oh absolutely, mat Yeah, we'll look, you know.

Speaker 24 (01:07:57):
Coming into this tour that I'm about to do, it's
like I think it's fifty nine sixty dates out in
the New Zealand shows in there, so it's a lot
of shows coming up. And so you know, by the
time he gets to sort of halfway through there, you
start getting pretty tired.

Speaker 18 (01:08:13):
That the travel starts to get to a little bit.
But like I said, I eat well.

Speaker 24 (01:08:18):
And if I can get to the gym when I'm
a camera of a land in the next place, I
get to the gym and keep healthy, you always feel better.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Now, listen, what is what the I haven't been to
New Zealand for seventeen years. What's that about?

Speaker 18 (01:08:30):
Was that seventeen years?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Well, that's what i'm that's what i'm reading. You haven't
been there for years. Clearly you're going to tell me
that's not true.

Speaker 18 (01:08:36):
That's wrong.

Speaker 24 (01:08:37):
Well, the last time I played there, Well, let me
just check this up. I'm trying to think last time
I played there? That could be right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Well, well, hold on, don't come on this program and
tell me I'm wrong. It's like, you know, twenty five
minus seventeen, what have you got two thousand and seven,
two thousand and eight, something like that?

Speaker 24 (01:08:51):
You know what?

Speaker 18 (01:08:51):
That might be right there? You go think of that long.

Speaker 24 (01:08:53):
But I think the last time I remember playing there
was probably around that time. I think someone can correct
me if I'm wrong here, some of them can make
a call and let me know. But I think that
was the last time I remember playing. I've been back
there before, love New Zealand, getting back over and holiday
with family just recently too. In fact, when COVID hit
a few years back, I've got the last flight out
of the place back to Australia. In fact, we were

(01:09:16):
probably disappointed that we've got on that flight because it
would have been nice to stay in New Zealand for
that time.

Speaker 18 (01:09:21):
But yet playing shows. It's been a long time I've
been back there years, could be right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
I go back to the original question. What's with the
seventeen years Pete since your last play to you?

Speaker 18 (01:09:33):
You know that's been too long, hasn't.

Speaker 24 (01:09:34):
We've got a correct that now, make sure I get
back there and certain and I'm coming back to correct
that now.

Speaker 18 (01:09:39):
So looking forward to it.

Speaker 24 (01:09:41):
Actually doing four shows over there in New Zealand. I
May one, two, three and four. So yeah, it's gonna
be good, fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Brilliant to talk to you.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Listen, maybe when you get here, bring your guitar and
come in and see us and sing us a song.
That'll be nice.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Ah.

Speaker 18 (01:09:54):
Absolutely yeah, I'm totally out for that, mate, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Good on you go well, Pete Murray, so coming to
the country. He's got that wrong. One, two, three and four.
It is the thirtieth of April's in Queenstown. I mean,
first of all, he didn't know when he was last year,
so let's me. You know, it's a miracle who's coming. Mean,
in fact, for all we know, he may not May
just think he's coming. He may not dinner. So thirtieth
of April's in Queenstown. Then it's one, two and three Littleton,

(01:10:18):
Wellington and Auckland. If you're into a bit of Pete Murray,
which we are, this is I am fire. This version
he's done specially for us.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
I am fired.

Speaker 25 (01:10:30):
I will say.

Speaker 18 (01:10:50):
I'm here. Say just know that I'm not too far.

Speaker 25 (01:10:59):
I take my hand.

Speaker 18 (01:11:01):
I hope you can see me. I am fired. I'll
stay the.

Speaker 20 (01:11:07):
Night and I'm staying, and feel.

Speaker 7 (01:11:18):
And I'm staying.

Speaker 25 (01:11:20):
Then I will never let you down.

Speaker 18 (01:11:27):
And I'm staying.

Speaker 25 (01:11:29):
Then I'll never let you down. Oh, I'll never let
you down. No, I will never let you down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
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go fantastic. Mike Pete Murray opened for David grind too
and six. Mike saw Pete Murray up for David grat
the Civic approximately ten years ago. Well it wasn't a program.
I wasn't. He wasn't ten years ago.

Speaker 18 (01:13:07):
It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
We've just established that he was the main act for me,
David Gray. Funnily enough, we had him on the program.
Were we have David Graan in the program? Be over
a decade ago now? And it was one of those
interviews and I thought, David Gray, Okay, let's get anyway.
It turns out to be a lovely bloke. I thought, Jeesey,
you're a lovely bloke. I didn't say that in the
interview because that would have been weird. He would have gone,
what's this guy? This guy on a weirdo? Twenty fourteen?

(01:13:30):
There you go? Eleven years ago? Is right, isn't it?
I'm good with time. I thought it was bad.

Speaker 7 (01:13:33):
I just put out a new album out recently.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
David Gray, Well, why isn't he on the program? Glenn?

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
He's got an apartment?

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Where's Sam? What the hell's he doing? Sam? Where's David Gray?
Breaking news? David Gray's got a new album, Sam's going?
Who's David Gray? I mean, for goodness, sex were the
nicest guy's've ever interviewed. I'm just saying this. I didn't
think he was, but he turned out to be a
bit bloke. By the way, fifth anniversary of the first lockdown,
speaking of cheery news five years ago today we were

(01:14:02):
locked down for the first time Level four until the
twenty seven of the April. Anyway, the reason I tell
you that, apart from the fact that's so suh, so
much fun to wander down memory lane and tell our
COVID stories. As Brook Vanvelden is reminding us that phase
two of this inquiry, which is underway, she's encouraging the
public to submit. Do you submit with a genuine belief
that anything's going to happen out of this and things

(01:14:22):
will be completely different next time? What do you reckon?
Let me know Rod little Pee, Well, he's a good
bloke as well. He probably knows David Gray anyway, he's
with us after the news, which is next tier at
news talk, zb.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Dead b right, So I referencedly and Lawson earlier on
in the program. It's got to Fox in America. So
it's a truly global story. There's a tremendous amount of
interest in what has happened or what is happening. And
this was the first article i'd really whereby times were
in play. And it doesn't make it any better, but
it's just an interesting comparison. It's the sort of data

(01:15:08):
they're going to be looking at, and it does reference
back to people like Perez, back to the whole vistappen
versus whoever's alongside them. But let me come to that
in just a couple of moments, because meantime, at twenty
three minutes away from.

Speaker 22 (01:15:20):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
To go to Britain and my friend Rod Littles willis Rod,
very good morning.

Speaker 14 (01:15:29):
To you, My good morning to you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Just quickly he throw airport. I've become fascinated with it
over the weekend because first of all, everyone went, all
that'll be terror, then it wasn't terror. And then the
guy runs the airport said, oh, well, it's not really
my fault because the power poles down the road. And
then there was the report that was written ten years
ago that said to tell you what you might be
in trouble here and then so where does this go?

(01:15:53):
And does anybody get held accountable or do we just
ignore everything and it'll happen again.

Speaker 14 (01:16:00):
One does get held accountable in the enda, I mean,
it was a remarkable story and full of non secreteurs. Yeah,
there was a worry, as there would be. I don't
blame people for worrying that it could possibly have been
a foreign agent, i e.

Speaker 18 (01:16:17):
Russia.

Speaker 14 (01:16:18):
You know, I don't blame them for thinking that. But
basically it was just a substation that went on fire.
And quite clearly, I think Richard Tice of Reform UK
had a point when he said that the airport might
have been all right if it had had its regular

(01:16:38):
non net zero backup stuff. Now Heathrowers said, look, that's
not true. They switched to a biomass combined generator. That's
not true. It just that they just said, it just
takes a lot of time for us to sort out

(01:16:59):
the the problems and to bring the back up into effect. Well,
you know that's not a backup, is it.

Speaker 19 (01:17:08):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:17:09):
If you're in a hospital and you're on you're on
my support and the electricity goes down, then something kicks in.
Every hospital has that Heathrow doesn't for whatever reason. And
I think that the boss of Heathrow Airport is going
to be in the firing line. He was kind of

(01:17:31):
held out to dry, hung out to dry by the
Labor Party this afternoon. And I think that when push
comes to shove, that's where the problem will be and
that's who will face a cup for it. And you know,
probably rightly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
All right, the economy. So I'm watching Rachel Reeves over
the weekend with Missus Crumbsburg, and a couple of things
came up, not least of which were free tickets to
the Sabrina Krpenter show. But be there as it may, Yes,
where is she at in terms of one one thing?
I'm reading that the borrowing was higher than expected for Fibruary,
so they're still not getting the under control and other
things that she's going to get fifteen percent cat to

(01:18:07):
the civil service. Where are we at economically? Is she
in control of this or not?

Speaker 14 (01:18:13):
Not remotely in control of it? And in real trouble?
And frankly, if a politician does not understand, after all
we've been through, particularly in the early part the first
one hundred days of Starma, that taking a free being
a box of a Sabrina Carpenter concert doesn't play well
with the audience. This woman has no grasp either of

(01:18:34):
economics or of popular political support, just no grasp at all.
So our economy is lamentable. I'm a nationalist, obviously, you know,
we all love our country. But when an American commentator said,
you know its economy is in free for there weren't

(01:18:55):
far wrong. There is no growth whatsoever, but an awful
lot of that is down to that budget which she
produced in the early days of the Starmar administration, which
which effectively disincentivized businesses from hiring anyone, from raising wages,
et cetera, et cetera. She is a real problem. I

(01:19:18):
don't think that the Office for Budget Responsibility, which is
what this is all about this week, will do that much,
either for or against her. But the knives around for
I was talking to some people who do have the
year of Kiars darm I really do, and they said, look,
this is a pretty good cabinet apart from Reeves and Milliband,

(01:19:40):
and that was it. That's that's where it is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
And so do they shuffle her eventually or not?

Speaker 14 (01:19:47):
I think they do. I think given that I don't
think Sir Kars Starmer has an ideological bone in his body.
It isn't probably not a kind of a bond of
loyalty to anyone particularly. It really is a peculiar individual
who is doing quite well at the moment. Nonetheless, I
think that sooner or later they will have to get

(01:20:08):
rid of her, and I think it's probably sooner rather
than later. There has to be an upturn in this economy.
We have to see a degree of growth. If we don't,
she's failed on Labour's first test and therefore has to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Go give us an update on the war. So I
know that you guys and the French are having a meeting,
and where where is this going? Where are we are?
We just standing by for whatever happens in Saudi Arrivia
between the Russians and the Americans, and you get told
what to do and et cetera.

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
I think, Mike, you probably have a better idea of
this than any of the government ministers involved. And then
I do not. I just I'm sorry, mate, I just
simply do not. It is good of Sakire starting to
try to galvanize the Europeans, but galvanizing the Europeans is
like trying to sort of taste custard on a wall.

(01:20:55):
They are ungalvanizable, And you know, Coalition of the willing
already gave you a clue as to the fact that
the majority were actually not willing, and what they will do.
As the Americans have said us, the Russians have sniggered,
as the Ukrainians have said, what exactly you doing? There
is no clear strategy involved, there's no clear purpose for

(01:21:18):
what they're going to be doing. The heads of military
meeting decided nothing at all. And you kind of feel
for both Starma and Macron. And I'll tell you the truth, mate,
I've never felt anything for Macron before in my life,
but I do feel a degree of sympathy that they
are trying to hold a kind of European military unity

(01:21:40):
together in the face of what I suppose we might
call reality.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Yeah, exactly, all right, might we'll catch up this They
appreciate it as always right little in Britain Tuesdays Thursdays.
By the way, just before we leave that particular part
of the world, I know, and I gave you Japanese
numbers early on for Mount Fuji. So the tourism industry
is booming I that London's is booming as well. One
of these tourist attractions. I'll give you the numbers because
they did a sort of a top twenty six point

(01:22:05):
four to seven nine million visitors last year, which is
an eleven percent increase. Overall, there's an uplift of three
and a half percent on visitor numbers to the great
visitor attractions of Britain Great Windsor Park or Windsor Great
Park most visited outdoor attraction five point seven million people.
That's a three percent increase. I won't give you all

(01:22:25):
of them. Some of them aren't that some Paul's Cathedral
surprises me. It's number twenty. I would have thought it
was high. But the number seven is the National Gallery,
the Tate Modern, which is a must that was visited
last year by four point six million people. I mean
that's tourism, isn't it. Win's a great Park five point six.
As I told you, the National History Museum is number
two at six point three. So what then is the
most popular.

Speaker 7 (01:22:46):
Tourist attraction Street Seat?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Surely it's not a bad guess, but it's in Manchester,
not London, but good go British Museum six point five
million people went to the British Museum eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
B twelve I from nine year, just quickly on Lawson
and this morning's commentary. If it's an interesting way of
putting it. If insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly
and expecting different results. Red Bull's Young Driver program is
a certified case. We're now in the seventh year of
the brand trying to replace Daniel Ricardo in its flagship
Red Bull burnt through Pierre Gasley, Alex Elbon, most recently

(01:23:30):
Sogio Perez. Liam Lawson is the latest driver to step
into F one's most heavily cursed seat. So the differences
they've gone through in races, So in Australia for Staff
and came third Lawson K eighteenth, the difference in time
between them was over a second, almost one point one second.
So the argument from Helmet Marco and Christian Horne has
been very clear, you need to be within point three.

(01:23:50):
Has he been within point three, Yes he has. He
wasn't testing at Silverstone last year when they gave him
the big test. They said stay within point three you've
got the job. It's on drive to survive. You can
see it there. He goes to point two. Hadn't driven
the car, same car, hadn't driven the car for seven months,
got in, got it within point two, so they know
he can do it and that's the bit that will

(01:24:12):
saver ultimately. China, we had two races in the Chinese
Grand Prix. We had the sprint race in the Grand Prix.
In the sprint race, Vestapan came second, Lawson came twentieth
and it was point eight one to three, so nowhere
close to point three. It was point eight. And the
Grand Prix itself, Astappen was fourth, Lawson was twentieth. It
was point seven five. Oh, so they've got timing problems.

(01:24:32):
If you compare it to the average of twenty twenty
fourth for Perez on average over all the races, it
was point seven and that was enough to get them sacked.
So the race results themselves. In Australia, Lawson didn't finish.
In the sprint race, Lawson came fourteenth, thirty five seconds
down on Verstapin, and in the Grand Prix he came twelfth.

(01:24:53):
Lawson elevated but sixty four and a half seconds down
on Vistapen. If you want to go back to Perez,
the average over the races was five point two one seconds.
But it's all about the point, so you can look
at the data, and data is what drives it. So
it's not really an opinion based job. It's a job
of numbers, and the numbers don't lie, and they know
what he can do, and this is their conundrum. They

(01:25:15):
know what he's done for the first two meetings, but
they know what he can do, and both of them
have a set of numbers around them. So that's where
the that's where the pinch point comes. My guess is
they'll let him do Japan and maybe then move on
to Bahrain because he knows both tracks, and that would
be a fair argument. You've been there before. You know Japan, well,
you know bar Rain. Well let's see what you can

(01:25:36):
do on tracks you know, and then we'll reassess. But
let's see nine away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dogs,
there'd be the good point's been made to me a
number of times over the last couple of days Mike
regarding Liam Laws, and I hope that Red Bull are
wrapping some support around him to protect him from the
ridiculous social media speculation.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Despite his talent, there's nothing worse than the corrosive impact
of their negative medias. And he's not been on social media.
He said this over there was it China or Melbourne?
Can't remember, but he's not been on social media for
a couple of weeks and wisely, so you also got
to remember that these guys have lived this their entire life.
This is not new. This is not like he wasn't
a mechanic or working at McDonald's and they said, do

(01:26:15):
you fancy driving a car? He's been in this environment
his entire life, so they're toughened up to what they're
in for. Obviously, there's a massive step from where they've
been to where they are and f one, it's a
whole different ballgame, and yes it breaks certain people, but
nevertheless they are to some extent anyway reasonably used to it.
And he's had helmet Marco and is he literally since
he's been in a go kart, So this will be

(01:26:36):
uncomfortable and not fun, but at least it won't be
unheard off from his point of view. But I think
they're reasonably good at protecting them and things like that.
Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Now George Clooney is he's been back on sixty minutes.
He spoke about the government. He's promoting his Broadway show.
He's talked about the government being full of lies and
how they negotiate the facts and they're using the position
of governments to you know, scare corporations and journalists. And
he was asking about anyway they got around to asking
him about Knife and Biden. You know that famous letter
that he wrote.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
I make it kind of easy. I was raised to
tell the truth.

Speaker 26 (01:27:19):
I had seen the president up close for this fundraiser,
and I was surprised, and so I feel as if
there was a lot of profiles and cowardice in my
party through all of that, and I was not proud
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
And I also believed I had to tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
So that's what he said. Did he talk about a
show on Broadway at all? Do they get to that?
Not really?

Speaker 7 (01:27:47):
Sorry, I haven't had time to watch the entire sixty minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Has he got us read here? He's died?

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
He was normal, sort of salt and pepper, normal, sort
of in you are a really good looking game.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
He is good look but I saw him with his
new brown hair and he looks ridiculous, and a Mile
doesn't like it at all. Why would the now highly
discredited sixty Minutes be doing a total puff piece on
George Clooney, a second rate movie star and failed political pundit.
He fought hard for Sleepy Joe's election and then right
after the debate dumped him like a dog. Later, I assume,

(01:28:22):
under orders from the Obama camp, pushed all out for Carmela,
only to soon realize that that was not going to
work out well. Sixty Minutes even fraudulently inserted fake answers
into her disastrous interview aired just before election day and
one of the most embarrassing and dishonest events in broadcast history.
And now George Clooney again, his press agent should be
making a fortune. The prize for this morning is who

(01:28:43):
said that?

Speaker 24 (01:28:45):
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
A guy who just can't let things go, who came
out on truth social with that particular spray. So he's
suing sixty Minutes at the moment. There's great ankst within
sixty minutes over that aforementioned Carmel Harrison interview, there's great
angst within sixty minutes as to whether there could be
some sort of settlement over that, and that sort of
means that you would acquiesce to basically illegal bully or

(01:29:09):
whether they're going to fight it out in court. Anyway,
that is us for a Tuesday morning, which means tomorrow
is Wednesday, which means we'll be here at the same time,
and there's no excuse why you shouldn't be either, So
six o'clock is start time. We'll see you then, as always,
happy days.

Speaker 24 (01:29:24):
We did.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
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