Full Show Podcast: 25 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking, breakfast with the range Rover, the law designed
to intrigue and use toks.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Dead be wedding and welcome from the odd education file.
The number of kids leading unqualified still going up, but
the poping is going down. Concerns over the transportation of
drugs on regional flights in this country. The Peranara Harky headlines,
of course, are the lads in the commentary box Richard
Arnold's see price. They do the business as well Hosking.
It is Monday morning, welcome to it. Seven past six. Now,
as Cop twenty nine went into the predictable overtime to try,

(00:32):
yet again to create the illusion that something was going
to happen, I think we can fairly reasonably argue that
this is one of the least effective cops ever. The
world is tired, tired from well, a whole lot of
stuff really woars. COVID economic shambles, trying to save the
planet with the recipe of debt and ideology and restrictive
lifestyle is beyond this. Saudi Arabia was described by one

(00:53):
season participant as a wrecking ball. They are credited with
having one of the most sophisticated forms of diplomacy going
that essentially slows down the process to the point of
seeing it go backwards. It was meant, of course, as
as slight. But part of what they're doing involves consensus. Now,
obviously they've got an interest in oil, but it is
worth pointing out I think that although they are biased,
at least in part, they are biased for a very

(01:14):
good reason. We actually need oil, oil, and gas, and
we will do so for years of not decades to come.
The ideologues at the other end of the spectrum of
places like cop don't accept that, of course, and that
is at least partially why cops are the mess they are.
When realism is lacking in a debate, the debate tends
to get bogged down. Saudi Arabia wants consensus from all

(01:34):
those who participate in the climate debate about two hundred countries.
Unless they argue, we all sign up, we can't agree
now that suits their purposes, of course, sort of like
the Security Council. Voting rules suit the Security Council. Hence
nothing gets done. But here is your reality. Bludgeoning people
into submission doesn't and hasn't worked either. The Paris Accord
is a bust. We're not going to hit one point

(01:56):
five degrees, not a hope. Why because we don't have consensus.
What's the point good intent when it's not followed by
good action. How much energy in time do you want
to invest in theory when the reality is so profoundly disappointing?
How many cops do you need? Were America and India
and China don't even turn up to realize that Saudi Arabia,
although beating their own drum, actually has a fairly logical point.

(02:18):
We are either all in or Cop thirty will be
as pointless as twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yes, copp has always its struggled to come to any
sort of concrete solution, but at the last minute some
money for a fund to help poor nations with the usual.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Response three hundred billion dollars till twenty thirty five is
a joke and it's not something we should take lately,
I'd not think it's something we.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Should clap our hands.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
And foss hosts to take it.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Also not happy.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
This has been stage managed, and we are extremely, extremely
disappointed that.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
This shop clipping one of the literally hundreds of British delegates,
though he sees it differently.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
This is just an overall total for the world as
a whole. You've got new countries that haven't contributed before,
like China, that are going to be counted for the
first time, and that's important.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
If they pay actually on the climate. But it was
all over Britain.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
The weather ward of South Wales has now expired. That said,
though we've had significant rain in the area. There are
reports of over one hundred and fifty millimeters of rain
on the hills there and that's all got to go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
And then we have a boat coming this week on
a sister of dying laws and whether they change another polsay. Yes,
the church is no. The author working hard.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
The title of the bill is very very clear. It
is called Terminally Ill Adults end of Life Bill. It
cannot include anybody other than people who are terminally ill
with a number of months of their life left to live.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Tories are on board.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
I saw my mom pass away in very difficult circumstances,
and I think that choices should have been there then,
and I think other people should have that choice. And
I don't think it's right that people are prevented from
having that choice.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Finally, there have been four arrests in la after what
was initially believed to be bear attacks on cars, but
it turned out to be an elaborate ish insurance. Akin
police began Operation bear Claw after four people all reported
their cars were attacked by a bear, resulting in two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth the damage. But he
thought ol so they checked a bit of video footage.
They found that one of the friends dressed up in

(04:27):
a lifelike bear costume with some sharp metal claws made
from a saw. So each has been charged with insurance
bard and conspiracy. That as News of the World at
ninety if you want a bit of news out of Japan.
The government, as you will be well aware, the oldp
got pants in the recent election. They're still in government,
but they're a minority and they're sort of scrambling to
try and do something to make themselves popular. So what

(04:48):
they came up with on Friday was two hundred and
thirty eight billion dollars by way of a stimulus package.
They got to get it to and through the parliament,
but they're looking to do so by Christmas. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
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Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'd be broh Ki has had a very difficult weekend.
The private sector has gone into reverse. This the PMI
to number that came out, they're expecting fifty one point eight,
which is expansionary. Of course, it came in at forty
nine point nine. Day blamed the farmers and the tax
and the budget generally, and on the back of that,
we have a new record post election low by way
of support for the Labor Party, three points behind the

(05:27):
Tories for goodness sake, just six ahead of Reform. They're
down two to twenty five. So he's got plenty to
think about. Fifteen past six with geven Fund's management Monday
Morning with Greg Smith. Morning to you, morning, Am I
very very pleased to see the good news coming out
of A two at last.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
Oh absolutely, and we've had lots of good news from
the decept them wey, so more good news on Friday.
So yeah, atom milk sowed eighteen percent. Look it tip
me had it's AGM and it's been a bit of
concern heading into it whether it would maintain four year
guidance and its main market is China's most would probably know,
and therefore it's been a bit underwhelming. But yeah, any
event these concerned would put to rest and then some

(06:06):
at the annual meeting, so they said sales to day
are a head of forecasts, probably no surprise at strong.
Dairy prices are playing a big part and the infant
milk market in China is shrinking. But yeah, A two
is benefiting from being positioned as a premium product that's
actually a top five brand in China. English label sales
are doing well. There've also been strong sales from a
Terribley milk and the liquid milk business in Aussie and

(06:29):
the US is also going well. So yeah, they've upgraded
four year revenue guides to mid highest single digit growth.
That's up from mid single digit increase. And they also
this was really pleasing to invest. Is confirmed. They'll be
paying a first half year given that the first time
and it's twenty year history, and we'll pay it around
about sixty to eighty percent of net profit after tax.
And what's more, they also said they consider special payots

(06:51):
over time and might they certainly got capacity to do
so there's something on nearly a billion dollars in cash.
That's are in a bit of a dollar thirty a year,
so plenty they could return unless they use it for
things such as acquisitions. They have said that they want
to expand their manufacturing capacity in China. They're also getting
a bit of a towel wind of course from a
weaker currency, and this is also helpful with other exporters,
so fishing parkle Health here was another strong on Friday,

(07:13):
up over four percent.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Now then we got GAP and they own a number
of different things including GAP of course, but it's a
good sign for spending.

Speaker 9 (07:20):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 8 (07:21):
So yeah, it's just sort of a sign of the
uning season. I suppose that well branded used, the retailers
are doing pretty well use consumers still pretty resilient. So yeah,
that's swored almost thirteen percent on Friday, did Gap. They
also raised guidance Heather the holiday shopping season. Obviously that's
pretty important for one for them. The fourth quarters start
off very strongly. Yeah, they obviously got the namesake brand,

(07:42):
but also behind brands such as Old Navy, Banana Republic
in Athleta. The revenues of the quarter up two percent,
three point eight billion net income that was up over
twenty five percent hundred and seventy four million. And what's remarkable,
Mike about this is it was actually a quarter affected
by really unseasonable warm weather and also the hurricane Canes,
and they had almost one hundred and eighty store closed

(08:02):
at the peak of the hurricane's impact. They reckon fall,
your sales going to be up between one and a
half to two percent, and that's up from previous guidance
of being up just slightly. So Namesake, get that brand
that's on a bit of a roll. That's had now
four straight quarters of positive sales growth. Also pretty good
reflection of the new CEO. He's been in there around
about that time, around about a year so under his direction,

(08:23):
he's looking to make the brand more irrelevant. So that's
getting a tick from investors. Also a bit further to go,
they might. The shares are up strongly on Friday, but
still around about half where they were in the late
nineties early two thousand, still and near ten billion dollar
US company.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Though, Okay, what do we make of this Michigan survey
and inflation and Trump.

Speaker 8 (08:43):
Yes, this is a pretty key consumer confidence survey. So
it was little change in November. But what was interesting
was the third survey in November, and it actually dipped
in terms of the results by one point three points
from the pre election to the post election reading. And
perhaps that surprisingly actually it was a mirror image of
November twenty twenty, So expectations surged. For Republicans, they retreated.

(09:07):
For Democrats current conditions they were pretty much unchanged. It
does seem like Americans they reckon that the Fed has
inflation under control, at least in the near term. So
these fell slightly in terms of inflation expectations to two
point six percent. That's the lowest reading since December twenty twenty.
But a little bit of a different story Maine when
you look at the long long run expectations, so on

(09:29):
a five year view, inflation is seen getting to three
point two percent, that's up from three percent. That's the
highest since June two thousand and eight. And this appears
to be quite a bit of uncertainty. So his breakface
is also a function of even the Republicans not being
quite sure to what extent Trump will follow through his
election pledges, and obviously in course in terms of higher

(09:49):
tariffs and lower taxes, so I guess we've to wait
and see on all that.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I need some numbers, please.

Speaker 8 (09:55):
Well the best numbers that you like. At the start
of the there has had a new record. It was
up one percent on Friday, forty four two nine six
s and P five hundred up point four percent, five
nine oh nine, NASDA cup point two percent, nineteen thousand
and three, what's up one point four percent, Nick up
point seven percent, A six two hundred up point nine percent.
We had a cracker INSIDEX fifty up two point two percent,

(10:18):
thirteen zero four one, Commodali's goal up forty six dollars
twenty seven hundred and sixteen US and ounce oil up
a dollar forurteen seventy one spot twenty four a bear
bitcoin for what it's We've had a crack at one
hundred thousand. That's currently ninety six thousand, four hundred at
the moment. The currency markets keyw we down half percent
against the US fifty eight spot three. Against the Australian dollars,
we're down as well, eighty nine point seven, fairly fled

(10:40):
against serling forty nine point six. This week, we've got
the Fed Minutes inflation numbers in the US Euro and
for Australia as well, got results from Zoom and Dell.
And we've got on our results front here we've got
Fish and Pikele and Ryman Healthcare. They've both got a
half year numbers out. We've got retail sales trade data
and it's the big one, Mike, it's the Irby and Mate.

(11:01):
Should they do seventy five?

Speaker 10 (11:02):
Probably? What will I do?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, you keep banging the drama NY five. I'll keep
bringing good on your Gressmith Devin Funds Management asking, by
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and he wrote a book called The Prince. And there's
only eleven first editions known to be in existence. Ten

(11:26):
of them are in institutions in various parts of the world,
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Speaker 1 (11:46):
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Speaker 2 (11:54):
It b now last cap. By the way, court wise,
the New York Judges postpone that hush money stuff indefinitely.
This is one merchant, so that's boxes tick. So all
the court stuff is ticked for Trump. Last cab off
the rank for the cabinet was Brooke Rowlands. Whose Brook Roland?
She's the new Secretary of Agriculture. Does she have any
idea what she's doing? Who would know? She's formed a
think tank. She used to be a White House age.

(12:15):
She worked with him the first time around. If you
missed it Friday, I'm sure you didn't if you followed
the stuff. Gates bailed, not surprisingly, and Pam Bondie replaces him.
Bondis and ag out of Florida, old mate of Trump.
Of course, she is what they call a massive upgrade
on you. Just no one's ever going to get to
the bottom of the Gates thing. Was he some sort
of you know, Trojan haws so that Bondie looks so much?

(12:39):
Who would know? Anyway, Gates is out, Bondie's in and
he's basically completed his cabinet. Now, So Richard Arnold with
more on that for you. Shortly, Sex twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
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Speaker 2 (12:52):
Now we got news for you from the Aber WT ten.
This is the cricket of the T twenty's got a
bit much for you. It's the T ten teams ten
overs each game, all the ninety minutes. Anyway, Deli, they're
busy playing Northern. They were on over the weekend. Batsman
was given out, only for him to be referred to
the third umpire. Now see if you can spot the
issue with the third umpire.

Speaker 10 (13:13):
That's pitched outside. I think James Vince has reviewed it
straight away.

Speaker 9 (13:20):
What's happening.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Ten secs? Is that review? Yes? Okay review? Sorry, thank you?
I checked the front for first, so it's.

Speaker 11 (13:36):
Not helped, don't it's got to give thanks mate?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, okay, you're fair delivery. Why aren't you looking for
l W Yeah? I know, thanks, I was doing something else, okay,
gore was eventually overturned. So that's the t ten Bolton
went for two and a half million in the IPL,

(14:02):
different part of the world, same sort of story, two
and a half million. Conway's gone for one point two,
which is good. I noted, probably one of the more
interesting pieces of reading it did over the weekend that
Australia indo your Test, which I wasn't following at all,
but a tremendous number of wickets bail fell over on
day one, the most number of wickets since nineteen fifty two.
And the interesting thing about that they started to panic

(14:22):
because the inference was that if the Test ends early,
it's going to cost them two million bucks a day.
So if you think about the audience on the television
for Channel seven that isn't there, the beer that isn't sold,
the chips that aren't eaten, the crowds that don't turn up,
two million dollars a day is a lot of money
to lose when the cricket earns earlier. So that's that's
why they need five days. Anyway, all of that and
more in the commentary box after eight o'clock this morning,

(14:44):
this Cop twenty nine thing, is this going to solve
anything at all. This is fun for the poor countries.
Have a look at this after the news, which is next.

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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Togs had been good news on the Economy Institute of
Director's Sentiment Survey. Optimisms replaced pessimism, which is good. They're
expecting better times up at fifty two percent from twenty
eight last year, so that's quite the turnaround. Directors expectations
on their own organizations up at fifty eight in terms
of optimism from forty seven percent, so I think we'll
take that twenty three to seven. The next way still

(15:27):
has a sorted in the States off you can believe it.
I mean, the general feeling is the Republicans have got it,
that it might be a little bit close to the
many thought Richard Arnold of the latest details. Shortly meantime,
back at COP twenty nine, they stumbled across the line
with a new deal to help poorer nations. Like so
many times before, it was on the verge of collapse.
Of course, are the money raised for the funds and
what they wanted or anywhere near it that it was
better than nothing. Adjunct professor at the New Zealand Climate

(15:49):
Change Research Institute, Adrian Macy is back with us. Adrian,
good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (15:54):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Is this still useful a cop?

Speaker 10 (15:59):
In a word?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, I think the worst was sticking a number next
to it, because twenty nine just reminds you that were
twenty eight Other times it didn't quite come together the
way they thought.

Speaker 12 (16:10):
Well, we have had it has been a necessary negotiation.
Since two thousand and five, when the latest phase began,
We've had nineteen cops and been one outstandingly successful. One
was the Powers one back in twenty fifteen, which did
set us on track with a new international client regime.
It's pretty good, it looks pretty robust. This last COP

(16:34):
tidied up one of the last pieces of Powers of
Green that hadn't been final I said, as on international
carbon markets, but aside from New Zealand played a role
in that. But aside from that, this is just a
repetition of the pattern we go into each COP at
the end of the year saying this is roughly this
is the last chance to save the planet, and if
we fail here there'll be dire consequences, and we go

(16:57):
ahead and sail. This year was interesting because it's so
the first time there have been quite a few voices saying,
hang on a minute, is this really the right way
of going about things? Don't need to completely revamp this negotiation.
So yeah, I didn't take much much notice as it
was going along, but every time I checked, it was
going in exactly the same direction, heading exactly where I

(17:18):
thought it would a good political signal, you know, the
money stuff.

Speaker 10 (17:21):
But it's still not.

Speaker 12 (17:22):
You know, it's still not a it's doing nothing. It
doesn't say one ton of co two actually, no decision,
no exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I'm glad you raised that carbon market thing because I
was reading about that over the weekend and Simon Wat's
been involved in this and I couldn't quite get my
head around it because the carbon market here, to my eye,
doesn't work. Is this going to be any different? Is
that this is just a global agreement on carbon trading?
Does it work? Will it work?

Speaker 10 (17:43):
It's how the yes?

Speaker 13 (17:44):
Well it follows on.

Speaker 12 (17:45):
You might have heard of the under the Character Protocol,
what it called the Clean Development mechanism, which was where
effectively you made a commitment to reduce emissions, it was
pretty extensive in your country. So if you paid developing
country to do some good projects in their country, it's cheaper.
You can save submissions for the planet and you can
get the credit for them. So there's two aspects. There

(18:05):
is that the new new mechanism now is going to effectively,
i think, replace the clean development mechanism. It'll be very bureaucratic,
but the rules, the LULLS looks sort of reasonable. And secondly,
there is another provision they've also finalized, which is if
you want to you don't need to do it by
their complicated you and system get together with some other
countries and developing countries do the same thing, but make

(18:26):
sure you do it with proper environmental inategority and report back.
So yep, that's it's useful to have that, but it's
not a it's not a in terms of the planet.
It isn't a game changer in the actual reduction of emissions.
Just the point I makers that you've we've got this
sort of paradigm which is coming out again in some
of the commentary. It's sort of the guilty the guilty

(18:47):
rich versus the innocent core and the guilty rich not
doing enough. But the problem is that the guilty rich,
the word rich is applied only to those countries who
are roughly the OCD country. Some of the wealthiest in
the world are not included in those goals. They are
invited to contribute, but are they all the OPIK countries

(19:07):
for example, They're not considered rich in the un So
your potential there of getting that to lower of funds.
It's been asked for by just one group of countries
who recommend who represent a smaller and smaller proportion of
global emissions.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Good talk to you, Adrian, appreciate it very much. Good
insight as almost Adriaan Macy, agent and professor at the
New Zealand Climate Change Research Institute. It's a good bit
of reading. It's in the news roomsight that what was involved.
As far as I can talk about the I mean
we talked about carbon markets a lot on this program.
Our carbon market's complete bust because no one turns up
to buy anything, and so therefore the credits from auction one.
There are four auctions a year. No one buys anything

(19:47):
in auction one, so all the credits from Auction one
go into Auction two along with the credits of Auction too,
so you got twice as many credits and no demands
supply demand. It's not hard to work out. And by
the time you get to the end of the year,
Auction four and US bought anythings. So I'm not sure
really it's going to solve anything. Eight ten minutes away
from seven task, Adele burst into tears again. She spent
a lot of time crying that woman. Anyway, she's been
in the residency in Vegas. She did her one hundredth

(20:09):
and final show saw at the f one over the weekend,
actually one hundredth and final show, and she's now going
to take a quote unquote big break from music. Doesn't
know how long. She may never be back for all
you know. She started in jan of twenty two. That
remember that kerfuffle. It was at the time when COVID
was just coming along and the set wasn't ready, and
once again she burst into tears and said, sorry, it's

(20:30):
not ready, can't start. She eventually did start. She's been
performing every Friday and Saturday, but she's worn herself out,
so that's the end of that. She's gone Back Home
to Britain eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
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Speaker 2 (20:47):
A Mike Great interview with Adrians just highlighted the climate
change activism as another communist NV tax that taxes the
middle class to death. Mike giving money to developing countries
to reduce somebmissions will only work in a corruption free society.
Fat Chants having said that I'm talking about Harris Paris
was a big deal to the extent they got the accord.
But as I said earlier on in the program, part
of the accord is to one point five. If we're

(21:08):
not going to make it, what was the point six forty.

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Speaker 2 (21:17):
Tide Richard Arld morning to you what you make Gate's
out bonding in I think we're done, aren't we?

Speaker 10 (21:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (21:22):
There were a couple of others in the mix of
the weekend, but the President elect has now rolled out
the last of his florry of cabinet picks with casting
that looks well a lot like Fox News, doesn't The
two of his pic Seawn Duffy for Transportation and Pete
haig Seth chosen to run the Pentagon of Fox News
presenters Straight off the Airwaves. Mike Khuckabee chosen for Ambassador
to Israel, had a six year contract hosting a Fox

(21:43):
News show. Tulsey Gabbard filled in for former Fox host
Tucker Culson from elsewhere in the entertainment world, Doctor Oz
hosted his TV Doctor Show for many years. Now is
chosen to oversee Medicare for seniors and Medicaid for the
poor on TV. He was often accused of promoting quack
medical treatments when COVID hit. He espoures the use of

(22:04):
hydroxy chloroquin at a time when he had shares in
a couple of companies that make the anti malaria drogue. Anyway,
there is uh Lynda McMahon as well, who with her husband,
helped to run the professional wrestling Empire. They had now
chosen as Education Secretary, so a lot of cable news
regulars and entertainment folks. Pam Bondi was chosen quickly for

(22:24):
Attorney General after the Matt Gates nomination dissolved, amid that
flew of sexual abuse claims. This means that if they
are all confirmed. The top three officials at the Justice
Department will all be people who work for Trump's legal
defense in the many criminal cases he was facing until
he was re elected. Pambond was Florida's attorney general and
also defended Trump during his first impeachment trial. During the

(22:47):
first Trump convention, when the crowd chanted lock her up,
referring to Hillary Clinton, she said, yeah, lock her up.
I love that quote unquote, And now she says, of
the Justice Department.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Prosecutors will be prosecuted the bad ones. The investigators will
be investigator.

Speaker 15 (23:04):
So she is speaking there of the retiring January the
sixth prosecutor, Jack Smith, I guess and his aides, while
Trump nominee John Sower is the lawyer who argued the
immunity case for Trump before the US Supreme Court. Another
recent pick is Sebastian Gorka, another Fox News regular who
has chosen to be Deputy Assistant to the President. His
advice on the Justice Department is this part of my.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
Department, you to identify the two worst criminals.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
You arrest them, and you purp walk them out of
the building in tracles, like they did to Peter Navarro
in front of the CNN cameras and they stand trial.

Speaker 15 (23:38):
So an enemy's list. Also during the election campaign, Trump
said he had no connection with what is known as
Project twenty twenty five, which calls for entire federal bureaucracy
to be placed under the president's control. It says many
government workers should be exchanged for political appointees. Trump said
during the campaign relation to this, I don't know.

Speaker 14 (23:59):
What the hell is.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
It's Project twenty five.

Speaker 16 (24:01):
He's involved in project.

Speaker 17 (24:03):
And then they read some of.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
The things that they are extreme.

Speaker 10 (24:06):
I mean they're seriously extreme.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I have no idea what project, what D twenty five is,
I've never read it. And then other will.

Speaker 15 (24:15):
But now Trump has chosen the co author of the
nine hundred page Project twenty twenty five plan, Russell Vott,
to lead the Office of Management and Budget. Trump also
is running his transition team on secret money. We find
in a sharp break from tradition, he refused to sign
an agreement to limit fundraising in return for federal funds.
Trump is the first American president to do that. Meantime,

(24:36):
the richest man on Earth, Elon Musk, still is hanging
about Trump and Mara Lago, and he just posted a
meme on his ex or Twitter platform, joking about buying
the left leaning cable news network MSNBC, which is about
to be spun off by Comcast. Here, the Musk meme
shows a caricature of a priest looking luridly at at
a woman with a caption lead us not into temptation

(24:59):
as the priest looks at a woman's rear with a
caption elon Musk trying not to buy, and MSNBC is
tattooed on who rear?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Right house? Where are we at?

Speaker 16 (25:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (25:10):
This is ongoing, man, pretty interesting. We've heard all of
the talk about the Trump mandate, of course, and so
called landslides. Late as tally shows the Maggot team winning
about forty nine point nine percent, so under fifty percent.
That means his margin over Harris was about one point
six percentage points, which is the third smaller since eighteen
eighty eight. Also, the final count still is ongoing for

(25:30):
the House of Reps, and Matt Gates demiers could cut
into the Magat team's house numbers. The present tally shows
Republicans with two hundred nineteen seats in the dams two
hundred and thirteen, but those numbers do not take into
account the Matt Gates departure. It will take at least
three months for replacement election for Gates. Also, there are
three outstanding House races yet to be called, so that

(25:51):
as well will eat into the size of the Republican majority,
which makes things pretty interesting politically.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I reckon see Wednesday Richindnald's site side Gates by the way,
could had taken his seat back once he pinged himself
out of contention. CNN clearly had something. It all unfolowed
really rapidly on Friday afternoon. CNN clearly had something about
another person making a series of claims. He quit. He
could have gone back to a seat. He's chosen not to.
I suspect for reasons that will become clear in time.

(26:19):
So as Richard said, they've got they're going to have
a boat to sort that one out. Nine minutes away
from seven, the.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover Thelaine News Talks
Dead be one.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
A bit of reading I did over the weekend of
the Chinese and the level of spying in the American
system most serious in history. As the headline the breach
of the innermost workings of the US telecommunications system far
deeper than the Biden administration described. A new Senate Intelligence
Committee hack is able to listen in on telephone conversations
and read text messages. The barn door is still wide

(26:50):
open or mostly open. Stunned there were not mine. Stunned
by the scope and depth of the breach engineered over
the past year by a group link of the Chinese
intel diligence that's been named Salt Typhoon by Microsoft. They're
the ones who discovered the hack. The government officials have
been struggling to understand what China's actually got. At first,

(27:10):
they thought the hackers you stolen passwords to focus mostly
on the system that taps telephone conversations and text under
court orders. But in the last couple of days, investigators
have discovered how deeply China's hackers have moved throughout the
country by exploiting aging equipment and seams in the networks
connecting the disparate systems. So technologically, as I'm sure you're
well aware, America's a basket case and that's where you

(27:32):
get to the general roading infrastructure, et cetera. The Chinese
are in, They're in and away. They had no idea
how deeply, So that'll be a consternation to the new
administration five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
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Speaker 2 (27:51):
So Wicked and Gladiator too have been opening over the
weekend to end the States. They look like they might
be okay. Wicked brought in nineteen million from Advance Screening's
last week, Gladiator six and a half. That's ahead of
their opening weekend, which on as I say right now,
so it's coming up to Thanksgiving, big time, key movie period,
all that sort of stuff. So the projections are that

(28:11):
Wicked is going to earn somewhere between one twenty and
one forty on opening weekend. We'll probably have those numbers
for you tomorrow, if not the next day. Gladiator two
sixty to eighty. So Wicked's huge, Gladiator two not so much.
That's just domestically, by the way, in the US. So
how does that compare with the first time that we
got two movies together and turn them into a thing.
Barbie and Oppenheimer or what was it called off in

(28:33):
Barbie or Barbieheimer whatever it was two hundred and forty
two combined in the opening weekend. So that's how we
compare it. So two forty two if they think one
forty and eighty two, oh, it's going to be short,
and that it's going to be short anyway, Wicked's almost
certain to break the highest opening weekend for a Broadway adaptation,
biggest in movie history. So also wiki eightor wiki etor

(28:56):
very good. They've got Mowana two coming as well for Thanksgiving,
so that could be that could be good news. Right
now after seven o'clock, what can I tell you? I
can tell you that kids go to school and then
when they're about sixteen years old ago, Oh, this is
so boring.

Speaker 10 (29:11):
Let me lead.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Have you got level three? No, you've got university entrants?
Know why would I need that? Are not going to university?
What are you going to do?

Speaker 13 (29:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
And that's how it works. Unfortunately, more and more young
people are ending up leading school without the qualifications required
for the modern world. The good news, if you want
some good news, is they're not vaping as much. So
they may not have a career or a life, but
at least they're not vaping. So can we lift ourselves
up with that bit of information. Then we've got the
sport for you after eight news though it's next to
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Speaker 2 (29:53):
Seven past seven. So the damage that COVID did, as
we've said many, many, many times on this program, is
turning out to be far greater than many imagined. And
it education new numbers last year one point one in
four twenty five percent of course, school leaders are left
without level three or university entrants. Prior to COVID, those
figures were in fact rives in terms of achievement, but
it's been downhill ever since. Education Hub founder doctor Nina

(30:14):
hoodsback with us Enina, good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (30:17):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I'm assuming this is a surprise to nobody in education.

Speaker 19 (30:21):
No, I think a lot of us were anticipating something
similar to this happening.

Speaker 10 (30:25):
So what is it?

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Behavior related? Is it how they teach, what they teach?
What's happened?

Speaker 19 (30:31):
I think it's a whole combination of factors. One of
them is that during the COVID lockdowns, children were missing
out on a lot of schooling. They didn't have as
much teaching as they previously would have done, and the
result of that is that they didn't build all of
the foundational knowledge and skills that they needed. Those students
are now coming through and sitting their Level two Level

(30:53):
three INCA exam, and the result of that lower level
of teaching not having so much time in the classroom
is having an impact. I think there are probably a
few other things going on as well. We do have
anecdotal data of students showing no levels of motivation, and
of course we also know that there's a higher proportion

(31:15):
of young people leaving school before the age of seventeen.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is there good news that if this is the COVID cohort,
then the non COVID cohort are either people who start
school after COVID no no different. In other words, they're
back to normal schooling will be fine.

Speaker 19 (31:31):
That would be an optimistic view. But if we think
about the impact of COVID, right that's going to have
that's long term, that's a decade to words, because you know,
we still have children who started school even at the
age of five, who didn't necessarily get all that foundational
teaching when they were in their first couple of years
at school, so there's still ground to make up for
those children as well coming through the system.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Are we outlies and in the Western world, the OECD world,
is everybody doing the same thing? Or are we different?

Speaker 17 (31:59):
We're not different.

Speaker 19 (32:00):
There's definitely evidence coming out from countries such as America,
from England that are showing very similar statistics as well
of this decline in academic achievements.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
See because here's the problem. When you leave at seventeen
and you haven't got Level three and you haven't got
university entrance and you're stumbling and bumbling around in life,
that's you done? Sure of you waking up one day
and going, well, I'll go train is something rather than
what happens to you nothing. I mean, now, I's going
to fix it the systems. I mean, you're out of
the system. It's gone. You got, aren't you? You aren't
in your own you are And that's.

Speaker 19 (32:31):
Kind of the reasons why we need to make sure
that we get what technic in school's absolutely right, because
you know, once children do press out of young peoplegress
out of the school system, we have far fewer leaders
to be able to pull in order to be up
to bring them back into education, back into training. So
we really need to make sure that we're getting it
right before they leave school.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right, Nina, appreciate your time as a West doctor. Nina Hood.
The Education Hub found a ten minutes past seven Life
of Matter is also at school youth vapings on a
downward trend. Apparently the latest stat come from the asthmir
and Respiratory Foundation research. So the numbers of teenagers who
voked weekly has gone down fifty percent in three years. So,
in other words, it's stropped from twenty seven percent to twelve.
Apparently Headmaster of Auckland Graham and Tim O'Connor's with us. Tim,

(33:12):
very good morning to you morning. What do you reckon?
That's true?

Speaker 11 (33:16):
Our experience has dropped off out of the world. Actually,
oh well, but it's touch wood on that because anything
could tain in our school environment any day.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Good and so what have you done? Crack down?

Speaker 18 (33:30):
Yeah, look right from the oset.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
I mean you heard me bleeding on about this over several.

Speaker 10 (33:36):
Years, and.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
Our response has been to issue some pretty high level consequences.
So stand down immediately, parents and go home and then
go through a counseling process.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Good do you reckon? You've solved the problem to the extent.
There was some numbers out last week from the Health
Ministry that said vapings up, vapings replaced smoking. So if
you crack it at school, that they may be not
go on to it in later life.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
Yeah, I think so. I still think something that needs
to be done about these, you know, the real excess
of vapes, these vape stores that look like they're you know,
selling iPhone iPhones to teenagers is still differently an attraction
or a direct marketing to teenagers. And my view is that,

(34:23):
you know, if I can get them hooked at that
point in time, and then they'll carry on through adult life.
And they are the ones who are still vaping that
we're seeing right well, right now are those who are
you first, second, third year university students who are addicted.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's crazy. I don't know if you heard Nina a
moment ago on the level three in the NCA and
the numbers leaving school a you seeing that at your school?
Too many kids sixteen seventeen leaving without proper qualifications or
they no.

Speaker 13 (34:48):
No, but you don't start me on that.

Speaker 11 (34:51):
I mean, we're probably an outlier of education now because
we're still sort of three sets of internal exams a
year from the time they start at age thirteen. Get
them into a system where actually they know what a
little bit of stress is, they know what that learning
is difficult, and actually that they can succeed if they
continue to practice. Just like anything, and we have we've

(35:14):
we've lost, we've lost plot intent of just discouraging students
a credit count. Then of course they're going to count
their credits and they're going to either get what they
need and switch off and stop learning, or they just
give up because it's all just a little bit too tough.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Right, So the answer is you've got the answer. If
other people want to learn, it is there to be had.
So we don't need to give up.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
Oh not at all. I think what we see when
we put the right educational systems in place is that
we motivate students to actually learn and they understand what
they what what a difference it is they can. They're
coming through to us without a lot of experience, sorry,
a lot of success with learning and basics, reading, writing, maths,

(36:02):
and we need to change that for a start.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Good stuff, Tim, appreciate your inside as always. Tim O'Connor
Auckland Grammar headmasters the go there's something uplifting, so they
come into the school underqualified, and of course the universities
will tell you they go into the universities underqualified as well.
Thirteen minutes past seven, Paski Mike not. There's quite a
lot of this this morning, as you can imagine, is
there not a code of conduct for those all blacks
such as not entering the political field just throw the ball?

(36:25):
Well know, there's not, as we found out over the
weekend because everybody knew it was going to happen. More
shortly fourteen past the.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
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Speaker 2 (36:37):
That'd be Mike, what a breath of fresher. Tim O'Connor
as please clone them. Well, we can't cline them. It's
not very easy, but every time we have them on
the program, we get some of the feedback which does
remind us that all is not lost. So what have
we got? Sixteen past seven t J Pireanara got the
headlines on the Harker connection to last week's protest, of course,
had the backing of the team management and officials. Marie
All Blacks Cultural Advisor to where he writes is with

(37:00):
us good morning to you, good morning. You're getting into
tricky territory here. Are you completely comfortable with us?

Speaker 19 (37:09):
Now?

Speaker 18 (37:10):
I'm completely comfortable with I think it's on the surface
it seems tricky, but I think there's a real good
story of unity here. So on bad to share.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
When you say unity, unity for who, I think, well.

Speaker 18 (37:23):
It's it's probably it's a good Christian start. I think
unity for an under there's a ground. So I think
of emerging communities, both Maori and non Maori, that are
really working hard to try and showcase. I think the
beautiful country that's truly reflective of our unique cultural identity,

(37:44):
which is no longer exclusively Maldy, but it is uniquely
So I think that's what I'm I'm talking about when
I refer to unity.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
So is that the role of an all black ahead
of a Test match or not.

Speaker 18 (38:00):
I think it's a responsibility for all citizens of aldad
Wall to keep pushing where they can. That notion of unity,
I mean, context is always going to be debated, I think,
and the appropriateness I think of any political stance or
any stance in particular, regardless of the stage. But I

(38:20):
do think there is still a huge responsibility on us
as citizens of New Zealand to keep pushing where we
can that notion of unity.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
But when you say unity Tenoring and Terri Tung, it
is self determination, which is not unity. It's your own
course and way, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (38:36):
I think if you're bring into the individualistic perception of
rangata tang, which is something that we're seen perpetuated when
it comes to the Treaty Principles Bill, I mean it
can be easily read like that, but I think has
to be seen in the context of the collective. And
I think when we're moving into that kind of notion,
we're saying it's almost as if you're saying it's either

(38:58):
unity or to tang, as if they can't sit together.
And I think that's probably where the context of the
stand becomes really important, because it's about showcasing the beauty
of both of all the cultures, but particularly the two
main parties. To tidate your white and how we connect
you work together to shape unity residing in marii as

(39:18):
a collective approach to determination, but also we can still
exist together and how many and are right.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I appreciate you Tim very much to where he right,
Who's lawyer consultant Murray all Black circultural advisor. But of
course when we talk about that, as we did, and
I'm more than happy to talk about it, we're not
talking about the game, And in that I think Lie
is probably part of the problem, isn't it? Good Morning
Mike TJ might think he's clever pushing his own narrative
during the All Blacks Harker, but don't underestimate the damage
he's done to the brand with the average New Zealand

(39:48):
of the ab should never never be used to push
political beliefs. More on this for you in a moment
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(41:06):
sign at the times I would have thought, I mean,
how far back, small clue? Not far do we need
to go to think that this sort of extracurricular activity
would never have been even close to being continance by
an all black squad not long ago. Essentially sport was sport.
It got political in the spring Bok apartheid era, of course,
but that I thought, I thought to myself yesterday that
was sort of politics from the outside in, wasn't it

(41:27):
not the other way round? It was Peranara's last time
in a Jersey why not leave with a message? I
think that would be the argument for many. But what
sort of message was it? If one of the blokes
from I don't know, rural New Zealand decided to slip
in some support in the postmatch interview for the current
gun reform or the gang patch laws, how do you
think that would have gone down? A David Seymour, who
quite sensibly asked in response to the peran Aura reviews,

(41:49):
just what bit of equal rights do you not support?
Is kind of on a hiding to nothing. We eve
entrenched camps on this one, don't we. No one's in
the middle. You either believe in the idea that we're
all equal or you don't. Perhaps more worryingly, Peranara's performance
was spoken about with management and supported by them, so
i'man credit to him. It wasn't some mad spur of
the moment outburst. And for the record, when he says

(42:10):
it's important to him. I don't think anyone doubts that.
But lots of things are important to lots of people.
But within all our lives and all our constraints, and
one of the constraints around being an all black is
you represent the country as an elite athlete, not a
politician or an activist. As we saw in a much
lesser way a couple of weeks back, the woman who
may well end up hitting the content and news department
for the state owned television station took leave to go

(42:32):
on the Treaty protest. Quite rightly, many asked whether that
was wise. We can ask the same question of Peranara,
and given we had all the all black management blessing
as well, we can ask that question of them as well.
I would have thought if the criteria for protest as
an all black is passion, then we're asking for trouble.
What we want in all blacks are sports people of integrity, professionalism,

(42:54):
and preferably inability to win a lot. The rest of
it risks damaging the brand, insulting fans, and distracting us
from the main point of the arting Pasky, and so
it goes looks to me like the All Blacks are
picking a side. Mike anyway, disgusted with that Harker. I
was losing interest anyway, but now they're turning political. Not interested, Mike.
The All Blacks have damaged themselves with this wading into politics.

(43:14):
Robertson seemingly endorsed this.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
This country has never been more divided and will never
be united. I don't know that's technically true, but we're
pretty divisive at the moment. I take that on board, Mike.
Are the AB's now registering as a political party? Mike,
If is there ever a reason, if there was ever
a reason to get rid of the all Black Harker
last weekend's displays enough, Mike posing with the Maori flag
is not unity, no politics in sport, and so it

(43:40):
goes Powell. Let me talk to you briefly about that,
because this didn't get the sort of coverage it deserved.
So Tahara or Taharda, there's a massive geothermal station that
got opened in Friday at a total capacity of one
hundred and seventy four megawats. This goes back to my
ongoing theme, and I'll come back to data centers in
a moment, because I read a very interesting piece about
data since is over the weekend. Are they've got all

(44:01):
sorts of problems with data centers. Nuclear is not one
of them. Land is. The data centers internationally now are
becoming so large, you know, physically so large, they're running
out of land. So we have quite openly said that
we want to be a data center host. My question
is how we're going to power it up, because all

(44:22):
the articles are telling me that that renewables aren't going
to come even close. So nuclear is partly the answer,
or many would argue gas is partly the answer, which
is where Tahara comes in. So this was opened. It's
a garganta, it's a monolith. It's huge, so one hundred
and seventy four megawatts, it's run late, and it's a
mile over budget. It costs a billion dollars. Now, for

(44:42):
a billion dollars, this thing is now going to power
three percent of New Zealand's electricity needs. So you do
the math during the news. One billion dollars for three percent,
So one billion times thirty three, thirty four to thirty five.
There's your number. And that's why renewables are an ongoing problem.
Do we have that sort of money.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
No, we do not.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
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Speaker 2 (45:18):
Here in general is the view on Peranara Morning. Mike
Peranara was on an international stage representing all the country
was heat. Yeses he was. I sure got that wrong.
Pure self indulgence. Brought the All Blacks and the Harker
as a pre match theaterd discussed as he was permitted
to do this well, he asked, So that's his defense
and he was supported by top down. So that's where

(45:41):
they're at at the moment. But it was an unfortunately
into the whole business, and I thought it felt sorry
for Sam Kaine, of course, who seemed to be one
of the most underrated performers of all time, sort of
became he went. He didn't sort of get the headlines
for doing anything untoward. He just left the field. And
that's Sam Kaine. Thanks for coming twenty three minutes away
from it. So there will be more that after eight

(46:02):
of the lads in the commentary box. Of course, now
our lack of security around regional flying has once again
been raised as particual issue, so police and simply aviation
as in the Authority of God. Issues around lack of
screen now the concerns around transportation of drugs at this time.
Former police Detective Inspector Lance Badet is with this Lance,
very good morning to you. I'm well, thank you. I

(46:23):
don't know why we're worried about this now if we
haven't been worried about it for the last twenty or
thirty years. I mean, anyone who's ever flying from you know,
fung array of fung arrays knows that there's no screening.
You can take on board anything you want.

Speaker 20 (46:34):
Yeah, so any flights that are under ninety passengers that
doesn't require squinting. And I've always found it to.

Speaker 10 (46:40):
Be a little bit unusual.

Speaker 20 (46:41):
I mean, it's nice not having it because you can
just get throight on the plane when you're traveling a lot.
But yeah, it just concerns me. I mean I thought
PEPs it was to do worth the fuel or PEPs
the hijacking and the plane or whatever. But it makes
no real sense. We either have security or we don't.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Correct So I could have three pounds of what in
my bag and no one's looking, no one's questioning, no nothing.
I mean, that's the easiest transportation method going. Would gangs
use this or not?

Speaker 10 (47:09):
Well? Absolutely.

Speaker 20 (47:10):
The reason why then to use it is because they
don't need to use a vehicle. When they start to
use vehicles or rental cars, there's a registration number, there's
a high chance of being caught by police, et cetera,
et cetera. So when they're able to do this, I
mean they can't even do it by their own vehicle
or a vehicle going across through you know, a fury ride.
So a plane is just a wonderful way of doing it.

(47:32):
But it's not the only way. There's there's traveling on buses,
There's all sorts of other ways they come up with.
There's customized career companies that do customize pick up and delivery.
So there are ways that they will always find. But
this one is quite a big anomaly that's pretty easily fixed.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
If you started screening all flights in this country as
of tomorrow in this ere, what do you reckon you'd find?

Speaker 20 (47:56):
I would you'd find all sorts of things. I would
suggest it will slow things down absolutely. However, it's going
to make it safer for everybody to travel. That's the
big thing about this, And isn't that what we've got
avas and security for so that everyone flying is safer.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, I would have thought so nice to talk to
you again lunch lunch, But at who's the former police
detective inspector?

Speaker 13 (48:16):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Twenty minutes away from its quickly back to these data centers,
the camps they call them campuses, So you set up
on the data center. Campus could grow so large that
finding enough power and suitable land to accommodate them becomes
increasingly difficult. Renewable energy alone won't be sufficient. This is
what I'm reading over the weekend. Renewable energy alone will
not be sufficient. Natural gas will play a role, hence

(48:38):
the big field I told you about before the news
that will slow progress towards meeting carbon dioxide emissions. Of course,
because the more of anything you used from the earth
is not good for the people who go up to
COP twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty thirty one and thirty two.
Companies are in a raceable lifetime for global dominance and AI.
It's frankly about national security and economic security. Data centers

(48:58):
are out to scale where they have started tapping out
against the existing utility infrastructure. The funnel of available land
in this country that's industrialized, specifically for industrialized zoning that
can fit a data center use is becoming more and
more constraints. So we're going to have problems. They're already

(49:18):
having problems in America, so it's going to be fascinating
to see how it unfolds. But if we're going to
insist that we can't be nuclear, that we're going to
be doing it through wind and sun, I think we've
got a root a weakening coming. Nineteen two, The.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
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Speaker 2 (49:37):
Talks that be here comes the pushback. Money beats everything, Apparently, Mike,
adding security at regional airports will likely add at least
fifty dollars to every airfare. Is that what the majority want?
Will clearly not, Mike. I'm flying to New Plymouth in
a couple of weeks on a prop taking a carry
on bag. Only the gift is a bottle of malt whisky,
which I wouldn't get on if I was a jet
on a jet, Mike, so don't worry about the possibility

(49:57):
of hijackings and crime and drugs, as long as it's
cheap and you can take your whiskey on board. Mike,
please don't let these wowsers ruin a low stress travel option.
Region to region screening is a zoo. Now, EVS, when
do you want to call it? I'm calling it in

(50:19):
the next handful of years. But this is what's happened
in the last three or four days around the world.
So Nissan, we reported on the program last week. They're
laying off people in Europe left right and center, forder,
laying off people in Europe left right and center. And
it's all to do with EV's. Nobody's buying EV. So
this and got in the ear of the UK government,
not that I think that that's going to make a
jot of difference, but basically they're saying it risks undermining

(50:42):
the business case for manufacturing cars in the UK, viability
of thousands of jobs, billions of pounds worth of investment.
So and listen, they're looking to pull the trigger and
pull out of the UK if the government is insisting
on getting rid of petrol powered engines by a car.
I think it's twenty thirty five. It was twenty thirty,
they pushed it back out to twenty thirty five. Lotus
also was once a British brand. Of course, now it's Chinese.

(51:03):
Be interesting to know how the Chinese are viewing this,
because Lotus is owned by Gil and they're busy making
electric cars in China like this no tomorrow, and yet
one of their offshoots in Britain, Lotus can't sell a
Lotus for lovenal money that's electric. So Lotus announced last
week that they're scrapping their plan to go electric by
twenty twenty eight. They're now investing in hybrid technology. The
plugin seems to be the way of the future, so

(51:25):
either a hybrid non plugin or a hybrid plugin that
seems to be the sweet spot between now and wherever. Anyway,
there's no word on what they're going to do because
they've got a couple of cars out there now which
are all electric, and nobody seems to know whether those
cars can be retrofitted with a plugin. So in other words,
if you've gone and bought an EV from Lotus, it

(51:46):
might well be too lately stuck with it. Then BMW,
the global head of BMW, you said the ban on
new petrol and diesel car sales was quote unquote a
big mistake, oliver zispears his name, a misstep threatening the
livelihoods of thousands of workers. The law could harve the
size of Europe's automotive industry. So you're talking about thousands

(52:07):
and thousands of families. And this is where it gets political.
Of course, if you look at a place like Germany
at the moment where the government has collapsed and the
economy is going backwards, and what are they manufacture in
Germany by quite a lot of cars. So you're going
into the car industry and you're saying, already economy is
buggered and the government's collapsed, and by the way, we'll
just lay off a few more thousand who are making
these petrol engines, these diesel engines, and will replace them

(52:29):
all with EV's that nobody wants to buy. So how
long before a government who thinks like that's going to
get booted out of power as well? So that's just
in the last week. BMW, Lotus and Nissen. All of
it's centered around Europe. All of it predicated on the
belief that somehow, in a handful of years, the whole
world is going to be so fascinated by evs they'll
want nothing else in their lives. It's a joke. It's

(52:51):
coming to an end faster than you think. Thirteen away from.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Eight, all the my costing breakfast. It's with belies resting
us dogs.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
V the compromise. Screening should be random aviation security staff
randomly pick people the screen. It's so ridiculous queuing up
for half an hour. You have a flowing in America, America,
just have a random check ten minutes away from it.
So also speaking of America, Vegas over the week and
apart from the f one was Synthony. This is the

(53:21):
orchestra which reimagined some of the big dance hits and
they play and as a singer and that's it seems
to be. It came out of New Zealand, so David
Higgins thing, and it seems to be taking off globally anyway.
Eline Kidron is a singer songwriter, teamed up with Synthony
over the weekend. He's with us from Vegas morning.

Speaker 17 (53:40):
To you good a from Vegas?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Did did did what went on? Stay in Vegas? Was
it good?

Speaker 17 (53:50):
I'm not going to tell you all the details. You
know we're in Vegas, but it was unbelievable yet Now,
the F one was incredible. The performance was, you know,
heroic on everyone's part. But you know, we've got an
orchestra over here, and there were a few singers and
an incredible conductor and yeah, we played for everyone here.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Literally where were you and how many turned up?

Speaker 13 (54:15):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (54:16):
I mean we were in front of about twenty thirty
thousand people, I'm not sure, right in the grandsteads of
the F one and it was uncontrollably fun mate. It
was magical. I mean, just the atmosphere there is crazy
because there's just so much, so much energy. It's so powerful,

(54:36):
and I guess that's what we aim to do with
the music as well. So it was a good marriage.
I reckon a paper this morning, though.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Oh are you really okay?

Speaker 17 (54:46):
It not too bad?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Well, I'll tell you what, being an F one fan myself,
I mean it's cold, it's freezing cold there, but in
the desert, so you would have warmed them up nicely.

Speaker 17 (54:55):
That's exactly right, that's well poort. Yeah, I think it
did make a difference, the tires that they were using
and everything. But yeah, I loved it, super exciting and
congratulations to Max for winning the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Exactly What did you make of it when you first
came I was watching some of the videos this morning,
not from Vegas, but from other times. When you first
came across this as a concept, what do you make
of it?

Speaker 17 (55:16):
Well, they approached me because you know, I'm in a
band called the Pop Bellies. We've got a few big tunes.
We toured New Zealand a lot, and you know, I
was very open to anything, especially when you've got the
power of an orchestra behind you. But when you look
out at the audience and their reaction to what's going on,
because it's this completely immersive, beautiful show and super super

(55:40):
well curated, I guess like the songs that they that
they choose to take everyone on a journey is you know, mesmerizing.

Speaker 13 (55:50):
Man.

Speaker 17 (55:50):
People are jumping out of their socks, dancing really hard,
and you know, it's just it's a great experience.

Speaker 18 (55:57):
I don't think there's anything.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
Like it, do you.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
And looking at the orchestra, I always find the orchestra fascinator.
Do you think those playing the classical instruments are sitting
there going I so wish I wasn't here doing this
because this is not proper classical music. Or do you
think they're loving it?

Speaker 17 (56:14):
No, it's the opposite. No, they're totally loving it but
getting really into it. And you know what, there are
elements to it that it is proper classical music. I
mean it's a faithful kind of mash up or a
blend of two styles. That's the beauty of music. There's
always layers, so you can look at it from one
direction as a classical piece. Because the music that's been

(56:37):
composed by a guy called Ryan Ewans on top of
the electronic music which is carefully piqued by a guy
called Dick Johnson. Amazing DJ. No, No, it's a good marriage.
I mean, it certainly works out there, and I don't
think there are any I don't think anyone would go
to this show and kind of snob out, you know
what I mean. Proper it's just music and it takes

(57:00):
you on that adventure.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Good on you, mate, Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it
and had a good time. And it sounds like it
was funnel around. Elan Kidrin, singer songwriter and he was
with Synthony in Las Vegas last night, four minutes away
from a speaking lasking Mike, I see the hype around
Lawson has died out. I mean he's serious. I see
the hype around Lawson has died out from who. So

(57:22):
it was an interesting weekend in the sense that I
was just telling somebody off there. I suspect Las Vegas
has signed for three races and they've just done two.
And the difference in commentary in terms of what last
year was about. Last year was the biggest thing in
the history of the world. This year nothing close to it.
It didn't sell out, The race sold out, the preview,

(57:43):
the qualifying week days didn't sell out. The problem is
they opened the road. And that's based on the idea
that Vegas is so big, so important, and that if
one's just another event, it's like the football, it's like
the super Bowl, it's like the casinos. If you want
to come in and you do it our way. And
I would be surprised if they one don't change the
rules around how this whole thing operates, or if they

(58:05):
don't change the rules, then I would be surprised if
they resign another three years, because I just don't see
it as one of the great venues for Formula One.
I know what they're trying to do, and I know
they're trying to expand. And the really big news over
the weekend, I don't even think it was officially announced,
but the confirmation seemed to be that Cadillac, the American
branch is suddenly going to be another entrance. The Andretti
family are gone, a couple of other people high up

(58:27):
and the if One world are gone. They seem to
be the impediment to what they wanted to do, which
was introducing the eleventh team. That eleventh team is going
to be Cadillac. They will arrive in twenty twenty six,
they'll bring an American driver. They'll make their own unit
by twenty twenty eight. So the sport is on the
growth path. But it just seemed to me that there's
something not right about Vegas. The track is filthy. They
open it up during the day. Gasly had to retire

(58:50):
because he got rubbish in his engine. It's just got
a really Vegas itself. During the day. Vegas looks brilliant.
At night from an aerial shot, it looks fantastic. On
the street, it looks to be filled with reprobates and
rubbish and filth and what's all that got to do
with Liam being about useless and everybody talking because today

(59:13):
he's still got a couple of races to go. It
wasn't as best outing over the weekend, but nothing really changed.
The cub weren't competitive, is what I was trying to say.
They weren't competitive, but it wasn't their day, it wasn't
their track and so I don't think it's over. So
I don't think anything material happened, but we'll we'll talk
more about this with the lads in a couple of
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Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
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All right, let's try that again, Fellas, Good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:00:57):
To you years, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Okay, we've got the virtual director media screen up popping
up on our phone system. Anyway, I'm a shame I
can't get Guy because do you know what this is?
Andrew asked Guy where he finished in the golf tournament
he played in on Friday?

Speaker 10 (01:01:16):
And was the golf tournament? Did you say where did
he finish?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Where'd you finish?

Speaker 14 (01:01:22):
Guy?

Speaker 13 (01:01:23):
Well, I was a guy was part of the winning
team on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Guy was referring to himself as third person.

Speaker 13 (01:01:31):
And he looked at thorough Bad Breeders Association Golf Day,
part of the social racing team. We shot five under
off the stick and we won.

Speaker 9 (01:01:40):
We played and so in in teams golf, don't they
take they dropped the worst score, it counts for nothing.

Speaker 10 (01:01:47):
So you actually coned nothing.

Speaker 13 (01:01:50):
No, incorrect, Andrew that there's where you're wrong. Firstly, Ambrose.
So you all head off the tea and then you
all head off the next shot, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. You have to take four t shots from
each person and then the last two obviously you can
be from anyone. Yeah, so yeah, makes it makes it

(01:02:10):
slightly easier that you essentially get four shots four chances
at the same shot. What what was the course at
Clark's Beach out out south Southway?

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Would you describe that as a links course?

Speaker 13 (01:02:23):
Uh, semi lynxy, I suppose out out beach area. I
wouldn't say it's a traditional Lynks course, but it's semi linksy.
It's a really really nice course. It was in great
Nick And isn't that Isn't that the cause for money?

Speaker 10 (01:02:38):
Isn't that the course with that couple photographed?

Speaker 13 (01:02:40):
Is that course? Andrew? The sixteenth?

Speaker 9 (01:02:42):
Oh, so you rushed you rushed out there to see
you get send.

Speaker 13 (01:02:47):
Out just to see, just to see the terrain and
see what it was like.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
Yeah, so this was on Friday?

Speaker 13 (01:02:54):
Was it correct?

Speaker 15 (01:02:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:02:56):
Well, for the job, the job now entails trips to
the Melbourne, the odd appearance at race meetings and boozy
golf dates.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
Is that the job these days?

Speaker 13 (01:03:06):
And it's much and it's much better than sitting next
to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Right, let's deal with Andrew, you at your first and
we'll move it as quick as peranara right or wrong?
Yes or no, big deal or not.

Speaker 10 (01:03:19):
Look, I don't have a.

Speaker 9 (01:03:20):
Major personally, I don't have a major with it.

Speaker 10 (01:03:22):
Look. TJ.

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Petinada has always fronted on his heritage. He's always been
strong in his beliefs, whether it's on social media, where
it's and interviews and Mike so often from a reporting
point of view, so often we complain that these guys
are robots and they say nothing. So I don't think
you can have it both ways. However, I think you've
got to draw the line somewhere at least. Apparently he

(01:03:47):
went to management and the players knew about it, and
the management knew about it, didn't spring it on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Yep, what's your view going?

Speaker 13 (01:03:55):
I think that last point is fairly persinent. That he
didn't just go and do it self. I'm slightly different.
I think, as say said TJ. Perinada has always spoken
up for his beliefs, and I think on the whole
or every other time, he's done it very very well,
and he's done it in the right way. I'm not
overly comfortable with.

Speaker 17 (01:04:15):
I'm not up in arms about it, but.

Speaker 13 (01:04:16):
I'm not sure the hucker, something that's been a tradition
for over one hundred years for the All Blacks, has
kind of been something that's that's globally recognized, I don't know,
whatever you want to call it, a recognized thing that
they do before the game. I'm not sure that's the
right place for it, particularly in the day and age

(01:04:37):
where players have their profiles on social media all that
sort of stuff where they can put out their beliefs
whatever it might be. I'm just not sure the hawk
is the right place.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
His actions have become. But yeah, you know, his actions
have become bigger than the game, and I think that's.

Speaker 9 (01:04:52):
Where I think it's a shame it's taken away from,
but it was always going to from. It's taken I
think there's been an overreaction and personally, I don't mind it.
It's taken away though, from Sam Kane's last game. It's
taken away from the fact that the All Blacks had
an ordinary performance.

Speaker 10 (01:05:08):
That's that's that's also key as well, do they have.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
An ordinary performance Andrew, because they're a bit bored and
they're looking forward to coming home. And it was only
because we are actually quite good.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:05:17):
No, you're playing off the back of those three giant
weeks in London, Dublin and Paris. You've got one foot
on the plane no matter what the players say. I
think the back of their minds, you know, they're looking
forward to the beach or the fig and break or
whatever they want to do.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
And that and that plays.

Speaker 9 (01:05:33):
And apparently it was very very cold and very very
damp and slippery dam which might have contributed to some
of the drop ball in some of the ears. But
I just it looked like a jaded sort of performance.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
It's almost like it's a winter sport, really, isn't it
a little bit a little bit wet and a little
bit cold. Yeah, I was disappointed. I had that vibe
about it that you have sort of turned it on
specifically to watch and you thought that's a shame. Where
where guy to is? I mean, samkin is. Part of
his problem is he's not a personality, is he? And
I think, you know, when you look at All Black

(01:06:06):
captains and you look at the you know, the obvious ones,
then I just can't work out where he sits in
the grand scheme of things.

Speaker 13 (01:06:13):
I think part of Sam Kaine's problem, and it's not
Sam Kaine's problem, but part of how we might look
back on Sam Kaine's career, or how we look back
on it now, is that he had to follow straight
after Richie mccaor who is as an absolute, you know,
our greatest, arguably our greatest All Black of all time.
Sam Kaine is an excellent player, a very very good
player who has played over one hundred tests for the

(01:06:34):
All Blacks. You're not you're you're not a bad player.
If you play over one hundred tests for the All Blacks,
not many people get to do that. So I think
we should look back on his career as one of
the best. He's not he's not Richie mccaugh. With respect
to him, he's not a Richie mccaugh, but he is
an excellent All Black.

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Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
What's herbu on Samkin Andrew?

Speaker 9 (01:07:14):
Yeah, please ask me Mike. I think, bottom line, he's
an outstanding bloke. I've always got on with him well
and despite what's been said and written about him, particularly
on socials after that World Cup when he was sent off,
I think he was an outstanding player. You look at
that Irish quarter final when the All Blacks one at
the World Cup. He was amazing, outstanding defensively. He's always

(01:07:36):
been more of a defensive type player. And his guy
said he had to follow on for Richard mccaurt, who
was on a hiding from nothing. But for me, the
bottom line is always approachable, always willing to chew the fat,
and just a bloody good bloke.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Good tell me either of you why I was watching
yesterday the Phoenix play Melbourne in Sydney in front of
a crowd of no one.

Speaker 10 (01:07:57):
There's no one there.

Speaker 9 (01:07:58):
I didn't realize it was in Sydney. It was it
was it was hot about thirty degrees. Was that they
were taking water, But that's not hot. Well when you
come it's hot when you're it's hot when you're running
around playing football.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I saw the sign at the I thought, what, there's
something not right here. First of all, this is a
big stadium, because I think Melbourne played a different stadium.
I think, where is this? And so it turns out
at Ali ends and it's in Sydney, and I can't
work out why Melbourne team in an Auckland team playing
Sydney and they've surprised.

Speaker 9 (01:08:23):
Me more Kew's Maybe they thought they'd get more kiwis
to And then afterwards the name.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
It was stupid.

Speaker 13 (01:08:29):
It wasn't a part of like their equivalent.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
It's like a magic round is it?

Speaker 10 (01:08:34):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Any magic of no one's around is the mag and
forest is the magic there? If no one's there?

Speaker 13 (01:08:39):
Asar from the NRL, I think sports have to give
up on that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:42):
Yeah, l makes the work, no one else does.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
It's too random. But I mean, now listen, let me
ask you this thing, guy, does the fact that the
Phoenix and Auckland are now the top two sides in
the comp mean the sport is somehow going to be
transformed in this country to something bigger than what it
has been to point or pondering.

Speaker 13 (01:09:02):
I was actually pondering that when I saw the table
myself after they had won, and I asked myself that question,
and I still don't know the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Did you refer to yourself in the third person when
you asked yourself that question?

Speaker 8 (01:09:15):
I did not.

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
I thought to myself, Guy, what does guy make with it?
I got bloody Muhammad Ali Shah. I.

Speaker 13 (01:09:27):
I think it's got something to do with the growth
of football in this country, and I think that's slightly
evident by the numbers that have turned up to the
Auckland c games and the Phoenix in Auckland, you see,
I believe play again very soon, maybe even a week's
time in Auckland, and you've got to wonder that in
Auckland particularly, they'll probably get a very good crowd to
that what they're out top of the table. I think

(01:09:50):
the first team in a league history to have won
its first four games or.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Something like that, and no one scored against them.

Speaker 20 (01:09:56):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Now next question, Andrew Onto in their debut season they
win the title, does that make them a Hellberg winner?

Speaker 10 (01:10:08):
M certainly be certainly good nominations.

Speaker 17 (01:10:12):
Not this year.

Speaker 13 (01:10:15):
Why because I think the black Caps winning his Series
three in India and then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Probably some of the that's that's that a thing. It's
not a title. You just won a series. That's not
a title, a title beach series the Olympics.

Speaker 13 (01:10:33):
No team in cricket had even in cricket, had ever
done that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Ever, no, no football side never entered a competition and
won the first year either.

Speaker 13 (01:10:43):
I think there's a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
I reckon if you're a judging panel, you'd be the
weak link.

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
As he was sitting on the judging panel, mighty where
he's guy made of this who would go.

Speaker 13 (01:10:53):
Clearly clearly, I wouldn't be the weak link because Andrew
several agrees with me. I think you'd hey, hey, Mike.

Speaker 9 (01:11:00):
Look, football has always had booming numbers male and female
at lower levels. Right, it's massive at junior level, but
I think there's always been a drop off, like a
lot of sport. But now that they have two shop windows,
pathways kids, kids and pathways to operate off, make it
to the phoenix, make it talk. And they've seen maybe
spotted by a Premier league team or a team from
Europe or whatever that you know, this giving this is

(01:11:21):
giving kids pathways a little like basketball these days, which
is booming. There's a pathway to a possible college scholarship
and pro team. You know, there's there's the pathways exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Hey, I read an article of Joe Schmidt right and
he's only contracted to the end of the lines to it,
and he's asking himself very much like you asked you
to get the self. Guy, you're be going, Joe, do
I sign on to the World Cup? What should Andrew?
What should Joe Schmidt do?

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
I think he should. Yeah, I think that gives him
a lot more time with this Wallaby team. We've seen
what he's already done in a short space of time,
despite massive protestations and up and up all in Australia.
I think he's done, very.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Rewarded and brilliantly.

Speaker 10 (01:12:02):
Should stay on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
What does guy think?

Speaker 13 (01:12:04):
Guy, I'm never going to live that down.

Speaker 22 (01:12:07):
I think he should and I think that Rugby Australia
should do whatever they can to get him to their sets, says,
look at the improvements he's already made and with another
what two and a half years or so into the
world cut up, I think they could be a force
at that tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Great pleasure, Good to see you and we'll catch up
next week. Guy he Belt and andrews Elm eight twenty two.

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watched the whole race inside his car. Yeah, if you
get IF one TV, it's quite the experience and you

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can follow the driver the whole time. Anyway, you pick
your own driver, any one of them. You can hear
the communication from his engineer. He was told to let
Peries through twice and to let Yuki pass on turn twelve. Also,
he was told to lift and coast halfway through the
race to protect the tires and brakes. This short season,
he's handed will make or break him. But it's out
of his hands. Well, it's not out of his hands,
but I take your point. He's under instruction. A lot

(01:13:55):
team orders play a tremendous amount. Yuki ended up with
points peis I think I can't remember where they came
ninth and tenth or tenth and ninth one or the
other soperious snuck home. It's not going to change anything materially.
The fact that Mercedes were first and second and looked
fantastic all weekend long shows you just how car and

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tracks specific each and every individual Grand Prix is. Mercedes
are not that competitive that often, but this weekend they
completely dominated. And so it is off to the Middle
East for the final two meetings of the year. We
will keep you posted, of course, news for you then
Steve Price.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Your trusted source for news and views, The Mic Hosking
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Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Be Bie, Mike Andrew Sevill blaming the weather conditions for
a poor All Blacks performance. Watched in an NFL game
last week Cleveland, Pittsburgh. I watched that. It was Friday afternoon,
a blizzard came through. It was amazing and they didn't
start dropping the ball. They were making snow angels. But
it was extraordinary to what It was a cold day
to start, but nothing was happening, was just cold. And
then about halfway through the game, the snow arrived in

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a way that you could only ever happen in Cleveland.
Mike tickets to Auckland fcv. Phoenix four hundred and twenty
five dollars. You must be joking. Well, yes and no,
we've checked that out because I couldn't believe it's true.
It's not true. Thirty dollars for the south stand, so
the south stands come as you please. Four seats though,
if you want an allocated seat for that game, there's

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only a handful left. And you are right, there are
four hundred and twenty five dollars if you can charge
four hundred and twenty five dollars. As well as asking
the guys before the news if you can charge four
hundred and twenty five dollars because the game's virtually a sellout,
you're onto something good. Twenty ten minutes away.

Speaker 14 (01:15:44):
From nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It's price from Australy. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (01:15:53):
Good there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Standard of living where.

Speaker 10 (01:15:54):
You at back at the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 16 (01:15:57):
According to report at the weekend, households in Australia are
suffering the worst decline and anyone think you've moving to
Australia should listen to this worst decline in living standards
since the nineteen fifties, with the fall in real disposable
income eclipsing those of the last four major recessions. I
couldn't believe this when I read it. Analysis of the

(01:16:19):
official government stats shows the current cost of living crisis
has hit households twice as hard as our recession we
had to have in nineteen nineteen ninety one and the
eighty two to eighty three recession, and significantly more sharply
than anything going all the way back to nineteen fifty
nine reveals living standards in this country during the current

(01:16:39):
inflation crisis. And this is the importance that I have
fallen more than in any other OECD country, where the
hit to households now worse than all comparable developed nations.

Speaker 10 (01:16:52):
So there you go. That's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Can you feel it?

Speaker 16 (01:16:56):
I can't because I'm lucky, but I think anyone with
a family living in a major capital city on two
household average incomes would definitely be feeling it. And it
comes through things like the price of petrol groceries. People
are not going out as much. I definitely think they

(01:17:17):
can feel it, and the cost of living is going
to be the major issue when the election comes around, because,
of course Anthony Albernize and Jim Chalmers before the last
election said they would cut everyone's energy bills and everyone
would feel better off under labor or Peter doesn't to
do a stand up and say what Donald Trump said?
Do you feel better two and a half years on
from when Antony Albernize heed or not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
It's a classic thing. If you run a polt, say
is the country hitting in the right direction and the
majority of people say no, the government of the day
will lose. That's how it works.

Speaker 16 (01:17:46):
Yeah, but we've not seen a one term federal government
defeated since the nineteen thirty so the stats go against that.
I keep warning everybody that a minority labor government would
be complete disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Now, the big protest yesterday, how many arrests.

Speaker 16 (01:18:00):
I'm sure he probably saw the pictures last night, one
hundred and seventy climate protesters. They blockaded the Newcastle Port
Court where most of the coal comes in and out
of the country. They paddled out there at ten in
the morning. Ten of the protesters got stuck and needed rescuing.
Fourteen of those people charged with children. Can you believe
you take children out in a kayak? And paddle in

(01:18:23):
front of a coal ship seems to be not very sensible.
Opposition police spokesman up there, Poor Tool, said he was
concerned the magistrates would not hit protesters with the full penalties.

Speaker 10 (01:18:34):
Well, I never do. They give them a slap on
the wrist.

Speaker 16 (01:18:36):
Full penalties would include jail time fines of twenty two
thousand dollars.

Speaker 10 (01:18:41):
That's not going to happen, he said. They've got to
stop giving people a slap on the wrist. This ship
was forced to stop.

Speaker 16 (01:18:48):
And could not leave the Port adam Vant. The Green's
leader was there looking like a fool. They were called
numb skulls and it was dangerous, really really dangerous. And
so we'll wait and see what happens in.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Court and then what's the treaty process in Victoria?

Speaker 16 (01:19:03):
Secret I know you've been having issues with the white
hanging in New Zealand. The first treaty negotiations between the
Victorian Labor government and something called the euroch Justice Commission,
which is an indigenous elected panel, took started on Monday
this start on Monday this week today, and the Premier

(01:19:26):
has come out and said, well, look I'm not going
to rule things in or out here today. We will
have those negotiations at the table. But one of the
Assembly members has told the heroalk Son negotiations have been
kept top secret. The public and Assembly members have been
locked out. We've been told to stay quiet, do not
speak about the negotiations, clean our social media accounts up, and.

Speaker 10 (01:19:48):
Don't talk to the media.

Speaker 16 (01:19:50):
Well, this treat is going to involve everything from land
rights to compensation for previous crimes committed.

Speaker 10 (01:19:58):
Everything is on the table. The premier is not going
to let the public know that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
And that's just in Victoria.

Speaker 10 (01:20:04):
Just for Victoria.

Speaker 16 (01:20:05):
Yes, and at least two other states are also having
similar discussions. But Victoria, they went to the last election
making it clear they were going to have these negotiations,
but no one was ever told exactly what it's going
to do, and the general public has no same the
negotiation at all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Hey, this back down back to Albanza, the backdown on
the social media and lies and all that sort of
stuff that the Senate got upset about, and they back
down on that. What's driving the alban Easy, I know
how to run your life. And that's before we get
to the banning kids from social media. Where where's is that?
Just the classic left leaning labor government who wants to
run your life.

Speaker 16 (01:20:41):
Well, if you at the worst case scenario, it's about
everyone having a digital ID. So we've tried in this
country before to have you know, everyone to have a
card that says who they are and where they live.
That's what this would end up being, because you would
have to register. It's also the same with the under sixteens.
The Senate was never going to pass it. The Greens

(01:21:02):
even arped up about it, and so did the Coalition,
and so the misinformation built was going to hand over
to a bunch of public servants the right to say
what you and I can put up on social media.
It was never going to happen, so that's been binned.
But interestingly, Peter Dutton will meet with his coalition party
members in Candra this morning. He's going to try and

(01:21:23):
convince them that this under sixteen social media ban on
kids is a good thing. Now, many in his party
disagree with him, many think it's a trojan horse, so
he's going to have to try and convince him.

Speaker 10 (01:21:34):
I can't see how it's going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Well no, yeah, well that's the other thing. So the
point is it a good thing? As in like we
need to do something, but versus it can't work because
it won't.

Speaker 10 (01:21:46):
Well, I think it can't work because it won't.

Speaker 16 (01:21:48):
And the use of social media by anyone under the
age of sixteen should be up to the parents, and
the parents should be monitoring what they do and do
not do. Now, people will say I'm being naive by
saying that, but our kids will find a way around.
Of course, there's no way, I mean, And parents who
don't care will simply hand their phones over to their
kids and so go your hearts exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Might see Wednesday Steve Price out of Australia. By the way,
part of that cost of living. I found it fascinating.
If you think housing's a problem here, it's a problem
there as well. In fact, their problem is worse than ours.
Cost of building a home New South Wales and Victoria
has gone up by more than twenty five percent. So
when we say we need more homes, why don't we
building more homes? The answer is because count affordabile. No,
you've got to have a buyer at the end of it.

(01:22:30):
And if you're running up ten thousand dollars a square
meter by the time you've run a couple of hundred meters.
You've got a two million dollar home. No one's buying it.
National average has risen from three forty five thousand, four
forty three between twenty three and twenty four. It's gone
up twenty five percent in Victoria, thirty percent in New
South Wales, forty four percent in Queensland eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
So you're speaking of social media and Lebron James over
the weekend announced he's taking a break. Too much negativity
and spies that's taking him that long to work all
of that out. Here's the thing I seriously thought about
over the weekend. I'm an art fan. I'm not a
you know, I'm not one of those people whommersed in
art and can boy witness with all my knowledge of art.
I just I know what I like, and I'm the

(01:23:18):
stuff I like I'm particularly passionate about anyway. One of
the artists I like is a guy called mcgriat randomcgriat,
and he's a surrealist. And last week everyone got coverage
of the banana and the duct tape, and there was
a Matista that sold for sixty five million, And it's
sort of interesting in the sense that those sort of
sales and places like Southeby's and New York and Christie's

(01:23:40):
and stuff give you an indication as to where the
world's at, where the ultra rich are at. Are they
into art?

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Do they have so much money they don't know what
to do with it? Anyway? Matistat sixty five million is
quite a lot of money, but that pales into insignificance
to the one hundred and eighty five million US that
they bought the mcgreet for. And if you've never seen
him greet, it's well the particular series or one of
the paintings that was done in fifty four, nineteen fifty four,

(01:24:06):
it's just to my eye anyway, is as beautiful as
a painting can possibly be. The surrealist nature of it.
It's basically a house and the light is on in
the porch and there's a tree in the background. It's
a neighborhood setting. And the surrealist part of it is
it mixes night and day. Anyway, one hundred and eighty
five million dollars somebody likes it as it turns out

(01:24:29):
and I didn't realize this, and this has sort of
got me thinking what I'm going to do over the
summer period. There's an exhibition of macgreet in Sydney and
a virtual copy of the painting that was sold last week.
It's sister painting if you like, is in this exhibition
and it's part of what's called the Mental Collection. It
comes out of Houston. It's one of one hundred and

(01:24:50):
seventeen works, the most comprehensive exhibition of the Belgian artists
work ever seen in Australia. And I was just wondering
is it worth crossing the Tasman to go look at
a few mcgreets, because I always remember being in Rome
once and I stumbled upon Medigliani purely by accident. And
I walked around the corner and I thought, what's this, Oh,

(01:25:11):
it's an art gallery. I might go in and have
a look and see what's in there. And I walked
and there was a significant, major exhibition of Medigliani.

Speaker 17 (01:25:19):
I can see why you like it.

Speaker 18 (01:25:20):
There's quite a few with like wine bottles and wine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
Fantastic, very beautiful. It's the cleanliness and that's what it's
sort of I shouldn't be infuriated by these things, and
I'm not really, But when we focus on a banana
and a piece of duct tape, that well, it's it's
just bullshit. And and you look at you look at
a guy like Margreet or Matisse or Medigliani, you know,

(01:25:43):
like genuine, genuine talent, if not genius. That's what we
should spend more time talking about than idiots that come
up with abstract nonsense. Night Away from Nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
With the range rover of the line.

Speaker 10 (01:25:57):
You talks dead, be sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
It might follow you. You'll be glad you did. Something
else will come out of it. What does that mean?
Is that like a mystery comment? Something else will come
out of it? Like what what's going to come out
of it? Went to Marguerite Saturday? Definitely worth the trip
of new series. Somebody went there just Saturday? Worth the trip?

Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
I think? I just might six minutes away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Fly to the wonderful world of the NFL. I told
you about the Cleveland Browns and the Steelers moment ago
in the snow in Cleveland on Friday. Then over the weekend,
the big news has been the New York Giants. Now,
the New York Giants have been famously useless for as
long as I can remember. In fact, New York as
a sporting market is the biggest in America, of course,
and yet they are represented in football terms by a
couple of fantastically bad teams. One of them is the Giants,

(01:26:45):
the others the New York Jets. I'm reading this morning
that Aaron Rodgers no less is getting on with nobody,
and he was their great savior, and he may well
be benched in the next week or so because thereon
they were going to win everything with Aaron on board.
But then, of course he did it hamstring last year,
and then he came back and he turns out not
to be quite. He would argue that the people around
him are they're good anyway, they're looking at potentially benching him.

(01:27:07):
He wants to play next year, contract's up. He wants
to play next year, but he doesn't want to play
for New York. That's been a mistake. Meantime, across the
road at the Giants, Daniel Jones, who's their quarterback. He
came off a rookie contract last year in March and
really he had never done anything, except the Giants didn't
see it that way. So they gave him a four
year contract with one hundred and sixty million dollars and
they said, Daniel, you are the man, until of course

(01:27:29):
he wasn't, which is right now because they benched him
over the weekend. So he's gone three and sixteen three
and sixteen, meaning three wins and sixteen losses. That I'll
let you in on a secret is not good. So
ESPN host Elie Duncan said this, you guys.

Speaker 23 (01:27:45):
Think he had this saved in his note since like
twenty twenty, in all seriousness, DJ I could have saved
you like ninety seconds a rery. Sorry, you paid me
one hundred and eight million dollars for one playoff win,
and I look forward to reviving my career as brock
Perti's back up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Then ooh ooh, said the giants. They got a bit
upset about that, and they rang them up in the
sie you count say nasty things like that, which anyway
led to Stephen A. Smith, who's their biggest name, saying this,
the New.

Speaker 12 (01:28:16):
York Giants respectfully shut the hell up.

Speaker 10 (01:28:19):
Y'all are awful.

Speaker 12 (01:28:20):
As an organization, And you.

Speaker 21 (01:28:22):
Got the nerve to sit up there and put on
and call the officers that complain to executives about somebody
that went on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
National television to do their job.

Speaker 21 (01:28:32):
Why don't you do your damn job as an organization?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Y'all are sorry? Agree, y'all are pathetic.

Speaker 21 (01:28:37):
The only reason why you get away with it is
because the death have been worse.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Could they ain't make the damn playoffs in twenty ten?
And you got the nerve to sit.

Speaker 21 (01:28:45):
Up there and call the network because you want to
whine and moan about your ineptitude being put on public display.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Well, maybe if you let.

Speaker 21 (01:28:54):
People watch it for free and it charged them for
coming to watch your sorry asses, maybe you would have
done Maybe you would have been in a position to
say something, but you did it go.

Speaker 17 (01:29:05):
To break, So that was that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Anyway. The Giants are currently playing at the moment against
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ad just into the third quarter.
They're down twenty three mils so benching Daniel Jones, it's
not really improving. Matters back tomorrow morning at six as
always beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
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