Full Show Podcast: 25 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Welcome to at seven past six of the Reserve Bank.
Appointment is not to be underestimated. We've never had a

(00:30):
foreigner will we had? The first was British, but that
was in nineteen thirty four. And that's the sort of
thing you would have expected. I would have thought, given colonialism. Obviously,
the fact she's female should not be a thing. I
think we've seen plenty of examples that essentially women can
do and do do anything, and rightly so. And the
more we continue to isolate our appointments on gender, the
more we remind ourselves how little in our minds we've

(00:52):
moved forward. But the fact we seem to have attracted
what they suggested was a good line up both numerically
and in talent from offshore. Is a good tick for
this country's reputation. I would have thought Bremen may well
use this as a springboard to big banks. Who knows,
but moving your family halfway around the world is no
small thing, and you've got to believe that the place
your landing isn't a dump and you can make a difference.

(01:12):
Small point. I don't think I'm reading too much into
the Willis comments at the press conference yesterday when she
said Christian Hawksby had done an admirable job. Admirable is
that glowing? I don't think so. He applied for the
job sadly given his proximity to Adrian Or he didn't
stand a chance and he's now off, and that in
part may have played a role in someone from outside
the joint getting the gig from Sweden. You've had nothing

(01:34):
to do with what has been a hopeless time for
the bank, riddled within competence and secrecy. Breman says, our
bank is widely and highly regarded. If I take her
at a word, that's reassuring. But you can equally suggest
she would say that, wouldn't she. What I'm interested in
is whether she can get a grip on the country
and its economic culture. I remain convinced that at least
part of the reason the RB have missed the recovery

(01:56):
up so badly is they don't get out of Wellington.
There are too many spreadsheets, not enough real world, not
enough vibe, not enough on the ground readings. I mean,
it's a challenge for a Northern European to soak up
something like New Zealand and get a gut feel for it.
I mean, flip it. How long would it take you
to suss the subtlety of Sweden? But given we are
where we are, she starts from a low base. Of course,

(02:17):
the only ways up. So let's hope she's a rock star.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Shooting in Dallas four shot too dead, including the guvernment
messages on the casings or anti ice.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Early evidence that we've seen.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
From rounds that were found near the suspected shooter contain
messages that are anti ice in nature.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
From our stuff, Trump said file we have reverberations in
the UK. Firstly, Donald's mate Nigel dancing a bit over
the til and off.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
You know, we were told to Leddimi was a very
safe drug and it wasn't. Who knows, Nick, I don't know,
You don't know. He has a particular thing about autism.
I think because there's been some in his family. It
fills it very per I have no idea Torries Widen.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
This is irresponsible conspiracy theory nonsense.

Speaker 7 (03:06):
It'll create fear and anxiety among parents, and pregnant women
will suffer unnecessary pain by believing it.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
And Sadik, who runs London, was nobly keen on the
sharia lawbit.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
But I think President Frank has showed he is racist,
he is sexist, he is misogynistic, and he's a homophobic.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Back in New York, Lord has been talking about a war.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
To protect lives.

Speaker 9 (03:29):
Ukraine deals underground schools and underground hospitals. We have to
spend more on protecting power stations from drown and missile
attacks than on building sports facilities or cultural infrastructure defense docks.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
By the way, I really urban a Trump's change of
heart on Ukraine being able to win the major medical
news This really is a big deal. They've got the
first effective treatment for Huntington's.

Speaker 10 (03:51):
Inactive virus contains a piece of modified DNA, and that
virus under DNA its cargo is injected deep into the
brain and the regions affected in Huntington's disease.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Results are amazing. I'll come back to that shortly. Finally,
in Bolzano, they've decided they need to tax dogs in
an effort to clean up their strea. Bolzana, if you
don't know, very prehy, very small gateway to the dollar
mites anyways, full of dogs. So starting next year, if
you bring your dog, there's a daily tax of three dollars.
Locals have to play a couple of hundred dollars a
year in taxing part of a wider dog plant down.
They'll also have dog owns to hate to have their

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DNA registered so any stray droppings can be matched, and
if they are matched, that will be a final felve
hundred dollars to use the world of mort Kimmel, just
briefly a tone of sorrow, they seem to suggest for
his comments without saying sorry. There was no sorry, and
I think that's important. Went on to make it clear
he would refuse to be carried, but the critics chose

(04:47):
his words carefully. The show is not important. I thought
this was a good line. The show is not important.
What is important is that we get to live in
a country that allows us to have a show like this.
So I think as the week comes to with clothes,
he wins the moral game. Twelve past six.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
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I don't know what Disney's on, but having cocked up
the Kimmel things spectacularly, they then decided, upon his return
yesterday to announce that would all be paying more for
the subscription as of the twenty first of October standalone.
This is this is out of America. I don't know
how it flies through here, but standalone Disney AD supported
planned two dollar increase premium. No ads a three dollar
increase if you package it with Disney and Hulu. AD

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supported two dollar increase Disney, Hulu and esp and three
dollars if you're going for the NFL plan. No change,
So Kimmel plus a price increase. Good week, guys, fifteen
past six, Now from Generate Greg Smith. Very good morning
to you.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Morning to you, Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
What do you make of the governor?

Speaker 11 (05:51):
Yeah, you made some great points. Of course, you know,
it was obviously making history in terms the first woman,
and ye had the second foreigner with her if you
go back to the nineteen thirties. But yeah, no surprise
of course at CNAL kendelate was chosen. Lots of upheaple,
lots of scandals this year and obviously questions around policy directions.
So she's got a mandate to restore confidence. She's well qualified,

(06:12):
its face that we're expanding since twenty nineteen. In terms
of their deputy governor, she's been a Swede bank, she's
been at Swiss Ministry of Finance and the World Bank.
And yes, when you look at foreigners, it is quite rare.
I suppose you had heard Mark Carney the Bank of England.
I mean he was Canadian. But it doesn't happen a lot.
There will be a bit of getting up to speed,
but she has overseen an economy, or helped to oversee

(06:35):
economy more than double the size of ours. But yeah,
it will be probably a case with getting around a bit.
As you say, there are some similarities between Sweden and US.
I mean their housing market, the GDP was hit hard
in the high rates. Their recovery has been fragile, and
it's fair to say it would probably be kind saying
house has been fragile. So I suppose the interesting point
she starts at December one, the two meetings before then,

(06:56):
the OCR could be at two point two five sent
by the time she takes, so first live meeting won't
be till February, so you know, monetry policy moves settling down.
The focus may be more on revising bank capital requirements
at least in the near term. But yeah, she has
said she likes the abenz's laser focus on inflation targeting.

(07:16):
But yeah, those right cuts will have been done, you much.
Christian Hawk's been no surprise he is going having one
to secure the position parently and having held the four arm.
So I've actually had another new appointee recently, so actually
looking at a pretty fresh board by the time twenty
twenty six comes around, so fresh, rare of thinking. Perhaps
Mike and your time will tell there. We probably need

(07:36):
that an event that Q market rose. The Kiwi dollar
was initially steady bit since wilted, but that's probably due
to other reasons.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Right talk to me about KMD, because I see the
numbers and yet I hear the commentary. The commentary, they
remain bullish, don't they. They think they've got a plan.

Speaker 11 (07:52):
Yeah, they remain bullish. But you know, there's the share
price has fallen around eighty five percent in the last
four years, so it gives you a bit of a
hinters to what the company has been going through. But
there has been top and tough in retail. The stentually
lost the four years ninety four million. That was double
last year. They've had to discount to get shoppers over
the line. Sales are actually up one percent nine eight
nine million. Earnings underlying down sixty five percent seventeen point

(08:15):
seven there's no dividend, but yeah, the top line growing.
Ripkeill that was up two point one suit percent, cat
Men Do that was up juster point two percent, and
the bootmaker was it was up three and a half percent.

Speaker 12 (08:26):
But again you see see.

Speaker 11 (08:28):
That comparison of Ossie versus New Zealand. So Ozzie increased
point two percent year on year, New Zealand sales were
down two point three percent. We had a tough economy.
We know that it's been tough in retail management. Yeah,
they're talking up the green.

Speaker 12 (08:40):
Shoots if you like.

Speaker 11 (08:41):
So sales are starting to pick up. So August ten
and a half percent year on year, cat men do
twenty two percent high in the first seven weeks the
new year, a new financial year, it is, So that's
positive there. Obviously they've got this transformation program going as well,
so the Tronte twenty five million cost savings. But what's
also interesting, miss also drove that share price rise yesterday,

(09:02):
is that Ozzie been in there a retailer breat Blundie
is said to be looking at taking a meaningful steak.
So you've already got the activist Ellen Gray on the boox.
You've got Brisco there as well, so you know, as
a turnaround in the offering. You know, been a huge
share price wall, but hey, you know the cost of
thing has been a factor here and and Ozzie to
a certain extent. But you know, rates for coming down.

(09:22):
Are we seeing some green shirts? You know quite possibly?
You know some are saying a dead cat bounce, but yeah,
time will tell.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Right, what happened in Australia yesterday?

Speaker 11 (09:30):
How come the inflation numbers? Yeah, they came in hot,
still a bit of mixed. So this is monthly and
the RBA has said that it doesn't place as much
weight on the monthly figures, which tend to be quite volatile,
as it does on the quarterly so all their cuts
this year have been after the quarterly inflation figures, but
nonetheless the monthly figures were were hot, so CPI three

(09:54):
percent August from two per month before, above expectations, fastest
place than year. Basically, it looks like there's going to
be potentially no more rate cut, certainly not next week anyway,
an even chance potentially still of one when they meet
in November, but they have obviously been cutting the cash
right this year. It's a little bit mixed actually when

(10:15):
you think about it, because the jobs market isn't flowing
as much as some had expected. And then on the
other side, if you look at the preferred measure of
inflation that was running at two point six percent in August,
that's actually down from two point seven percent in July.
Rents last Daniel Groves since twenty twenty two, So all
a bit of a mixed picture. Where are we at,
Probably no ratecut next week, but still a better and

(10:37):
even chance for.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
One on Melbourne capita numbers. Please the S and P five.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
Hundred is soft a little bit by zero point four percent.
Six six thirty down down point four percent, forty six
one two nine now set down half percent twenty two
four six eight. But's you one hundred up point three percent,
nine two fifty nickel out point three percent as well
A six two hundred down point nine percent, and index
fifty up point three percent on the BNZ Governor News

(11:04):
studying one eight one in gold market that was down
forty eight dollars three seven sixty seven. Oil that picked
up up a dollar fifty three sixty four spot ninety four.
And the currency is here. The key is weaker across
the board down point eight percent against the US fifty
eight point one, forty three point two against pound down
point two percent. Actually were flat against the UN but
we're down half a percent against the Australian dollar eighty

(11:27):
eight point three. I'll stop giving this news hopefully and
next week aside. But we have got something to look
for today, and it's obviously going to be about the
dairy sector. Were but four year results from Fontier.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Look forward to them, go well, might appreciate it very much,
Greg Smith, is that at eight thirty I'm assuming, say,
thirty griggs from Generate Wealth and Key we Saber specialists,
Paskings Berming Houses. Newly built houses in America much larger
than expected twenty percent increase in August alone. Average price
was four hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. Meantime, Eli Lilly
as in Farmer, they've anounced six and a half billion

(12:01):
to build manufacturing facilities in Houston to boost production. It's
all about the glps. But six and a half billion
of six and a half billion dollars, that's a lot
of facility. Six twenty one. You're at Newstalk ZBO.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
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Speaker 3 (12:22):
Just very quickly to the business of reference at the
start of the show. This breakthrough, the seeming breakthrough in
Hunting's Huntington's disease, it seems extraordinary. They describe it at
the University College London Huntington's Disease Centers spectacular. The data
shows the disease has been slowed by seventy five percent
in patients. This is all a first. They've never done

(12:42):
this before and they can't believe it. In the doctors
and explaining it to the global media this morning. We're
in teers about it. The decline you would normally expect
in one year now takes four years. So they're on
to something here. The new treatments, the type of gene
therapy it's given during twelve to eighteen hours of delicate
brain surgery, so you really we are at the cutting
edge of medicine here. We never, quote unquote, we never

(13:03):
in our wildest dreams, would have expected a seventy five
percent sloying of clinical progression. None of the patients who
have been part of this trial have been identified, but
one was medically retired and has now returned to work,
which seems extraordinary. Others in the trial are still walking
despite being expected to be in a wheelchair, so that
seems fantastic. Six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Trending now with him as well. Spring Frenzy sale on now.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Funny. I don't recognize this, probably because I've never watched
it in the first place, in a sign that surely
they have completely run out of original ideas. They'd taken
a DEFB two bay Watch A new season is going
to wear next year. It's going to run for twelve
glorious episodes when it was original. It ran between eighty

(13:59):
nine and two thousand one. Panned course by the snobs,
but globally it was about as hot as it got done.
I mean, Pamela was hot as I mean, that was
the problem. It was just really perving, wasn't it. That's
all it was about. And for the ladies, the hof
look pretty good as well. That's essentially what it was about.
Back in the days when you could say stuff like that,
know and sort of canceled, you have got it angsty
about it. At its peak, it was watched by one
point one billion people from two hundred countries, and that

(14:23):
was back in the days. I mean, how many people
were there in the world is probably only about one
point five billion people on the whole planet. Basically we
all watched it except for me. No word yet on
the cast other than they would be rising stars, whatever
that means. Now, good news on jobs. This gaming sector
thing seems to be the tech sector broadly seems to

(14:44):
be a thing we should be paying more attention to.
But within the tech sector, the gaming development part of
it seems to be a real deal. So we've got
some new numbers around these sort of job creation that's
going on in that area, So we'll have a look
at this after the news in a couple of moments,
then after eight looking forward to the catch up too.
In the studio end of the season, Ryan Fox is
with us here at News Talk send.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Setting the agenda and talking the big issues.

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Speaker 3 (15:14):
Malone, he's in New York's a many of the mar
at the moment, and you've got a plan for Palestine.
It's slightly controversial, like all plans for Palestine are, so
we'll talk to Joe about that. Shortley and Italy twenty
three minutes away from seven as part of the economy
really should be paying more attention to us, alluding to
before the news. Gaming's on a bit of a tear
at the moment and Wellington alone jobs grew almost thirteen
percent in the last year. Three locally developed games of

(15:36):
maybe global top ten now brings in one hundred and
seventy million dollars, more than Australia in terms of revenue now.
Chantell Cole is the director of Game Development Sector Rebate
and as with us, Chantel Morning, Good morning, Mike seven
hundred and ten in revenue in total see Winds at
two billion, Kiwi Fruits at four billion, China Traders at
twenty billion. So what's the growth path for your sector

(15:57):
and how quickly do you get there?

Speaker 13 (16:00):
Yeah, well, it's a really exciting time in game development
in New Zealand at the moment, and it's seven hundred
and ten million is just from the game development sector
rebate residents, so that's forty of New Zealands and medium
to large studios. On Friday, the New Zealand Game Developers
Association is going to announce the industry wide figures who
expects that will go up and a projection show we

(16:20):
could reach a billion dollars by as early as twenty
twenty seven. And it's really great to know that actually
the global video games industry is worth more than film
and music combined. Are whopping three hundred and twelve billion,
So imagine what the possibilities are and how we're going
at this rate.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Exactly are we eating other people's lunch or is the
whole sector globally booming?

Speaker 13 (16:45):
Actually the global industry, by context, grew by just two
point one percent, so we're definitely eating other people's lunch.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
The sort of games we're producing, is the a theme
or not? Do we do a certain niche or not.

Speaker 13 (16:59):
We actually produce a lot of fantastic independent games. To
eighty five percent of the games being made in New
Zealand our original I. But there are all sorts of genres.
You'll see just as many genres in games as you
will in books and film. So we're getting nature based
games that are there to educate people right up to

(17:19):
part of Exile, one of New Zealand's biggest games at Auckland,
which is more like a fantasy RPG.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
All right, what's going on Wellington? Is that a build
that and they'll come type scenario or games all over
the country or developers all over the country.

Speaker 13 (17:32):
There are it's a bit of both. Wellington's always been
a fantastic creative capital. So eleven of the forty studios
that came into the rebate this year are actually based
in Wellington. But what I'm hearing on the ground is
there are a lot of startups starting to make their
way up through the ranks. So it's a really booming space.
That actually made up thirty four percent of the eligible

(17:53):
workers that qualified for the rebate this year.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, and when you say the rebate, we've done a
number of interviews on this and that the whole came
out of the Lord of the Rings thing and you
know you get your tax and are you involved in
that now you part of that makeup?

Speaker 9 (18:06):
No?

Speaker 13 (18:07):
No, that's definitely outside of my wheelhouse.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Light should you be should the industry be available? You know,
to attract talent and you get tax rebates on stuff
you produce?

Speaker 13 (18:17):
Uh, work more with film and TV? Is that what
you mean? Yeah, well, yeah, definitely. I think we want
to build those connections across the widest screen sector so
we can raise the profile of New Zealand and really
attract more of that investment from over sphares. So yeah,
we're definitely doing our best to start to work together
and we're starting to actually see some of the games

(18:38):
being made a new do and turned into film. So
there was a game that came out of christ Chitch
called Dredge which became incredibly popular. It was actually theft
and nominated and that has now actually been found to
be turned into a live action film. So there's lots
of opportunities for awesome collaboration.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
What's the pathway structure. If you're sitting at school, do
you know about this?

Speaker 13 (18:59):
So I'm hating to see incredible initiatives like to herd
a Tech which are going into schools and helping design
game development programs for kids to learn about these sorts
of spaces. We've even seen one of the founders of
grinding their games in Auckland is actually starting a brand
new school in Auckland focused on Steam. So that's science, technology, engineering,

(19:20):
art and maths. And a lot of the game developers
are starting to be guest lecturers in the university so
that we can really raise the profile of this in
a career for future generations because it really is at
that blending edge of technology and creativity.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Fantastic, super exciting. Good to talk to you. We'll start
touched and tell Cole who's the director of game development
of the sector Rebuke. So gaming is often running, which
is good.

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you know my fascination with Malawi, the voter's on and
has been held and it was a while ago and
they counted incredibly slowly. But what's interesting about it is Motherrika.
He's got a comfortable lead sixty six percent currently to

(20:59):
twenty four. And this is what one of these If
you don't get fifty percent, you go a second time.
So at sixty six he's not going to go a
second time. He's the eighty five year old. Problem is Chaquerra,
who's the guy's got twenty four They think they've got
a couple of areas, two districts of the twelve that
are still to declare full of voters and the confident
that most of them are going to go his way.

(21:19):
A couple of other districts that muth Rika is expected
to do well, and they've had the results withheld by
the Electoral Commission because they wonder whether they might be accurate.
Hard to believe that in a part of the world
like that the election wouldn't be free and fear, But
we keep watching fourteen.

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Speaker 3 (21:40):
John mckennon's and Italy, Very good morning to you, good money,
make so the miligire. You as angsty about Palestine as
so many other people seem to be in terms of
shall we sha'n't we shell we sha'n't we well.

Speaker 14 (21:52):
I was surprised today Georgia Maloney, the Prime Minister, came
out saying Italy would recognize a Palestinian state, but he's
having it both ways, saying only if all Israeli's hostages
are released and Hamas is excluded from any government role.
So she's trying to please some of the disaffected Italian

(22:13):
voters while not disillusioning her alliance with the US President
Donald Trump or the Israelis.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Exactly, because the difficulty is what are they going to do?
I mean, this is not a question for you to answer,
I guess, but what are they going to do? All
the people have recognized Palestine, even when they have an election,
and the election tosses up her mass then what?

Speaker 11 (22:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (22:33):
I mean, I don't think anyone's thought that through on
any level. What's happened here though, in the last few
days we had massive nationwide strikes. On Monday, We're about
five hundred thousand people protested, and I think that's what
prompted GEORGEA. Maloney to actually make a statement to make
it look like she's actually doing something.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay, what's the holiday that you're trying to reseree who's
the patron saint, first of all, and what day is
it and is it worth having.

Speaker 14 (22:58):
I don't know if many people outside Issaly realized, but
Saint Francis is the patron saint of Italy and that
was one of the reasons why the late pope chose
that name Francis. But right now the far right government
of GEORGEA. Maloney is trying to revive a national holiday
in honor of this patron saint. And I think that's

(23:20):
reaching out to Italians and particularly Catholic Italians, to try
and win a few favors from them. And so now
they're talking about a public holiday being introduced on.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
October the fourth.

Speaker 14 (23:32):
You would think there would be pushback, thinking that this
is going to cost the country a little bit more economically.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, But then again the flip side is, I mean,
how does that work. We invented one in the last government.
They called it Martiriki. They just pulled it out and
nowhere and they said there's a holiday and that was
the end of that. And of course yes, business said
too expensive, but you know everyone loves a day off,
So can't you just go or the government can't just go?

Speaker 15 (23:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Another holiday?

Speaker 11 (23:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (23:55):
Well, it looks like that's what they want to do.
It's passed through the Lower House of Parliament a law
declaring this a public holiday, and now it's going to
the Senate. And I just wonder if this is a sweetener,
as we're going to regional elections in about the same
period of time, if we have a holiday in October.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Four Interesting the other day in Australia, virgin have started
their small dog small cat thing to take animals on planes,
and they're limiting it to four seats per plane and
they're allocated seats. In other words, it's Rose eighteen and
twenty and the small dogs and cats are in a
cage obviously, So how big is your big dog planet?

Speaker 14 (24:34):
Well, I'm a little nervous about this because I'm a
dog lover, but these ones now, for the first time
you can allow the big dogs over ten kilos that's
quite big to fly without being put inside a crate. Well,
I'm not sure that I want one next.

Speaker 12 (24:48):
To me on the plane.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
How mad is that? How many per plane have they
worked that bit through?

Speaker 14 (24:54):
I haven't seen a limit per plane, but they did
a try our flight the other day, Italy's hit our
airways flew between Milan and Rome. Two large dogs traveled
with their owners. That seem to go okay, but then
you have to think about other passengers that might be
allergic to animals.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, and also, well what about when they do the
big plops on the floor And I mean, what are
they going to do? Literally, what are they going to
do when the dog craps all over the floor? I
hadn't thought of that.

Speaker 14 (25:22):
They might be a little nervous.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Taking off.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
And what happens when they just sit there the whole
flight going Oh, I wouldn't be very happy about that.
I don't know about you.

Speaker 11 (25:33):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
By the way, one of our politicians is on holiday
in the northern part of Italy and she was telling
us twenty three twenty two to twenty three degrees still
this time of year, would that be about right? Still
nice and warm?

Speaker 14 (25:44):
Yeah, but we've had some massive flooding up in the north.
So I hope she's doing okay up there.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Well, I hope she is too. Nice to see you, Joe,
appreciate it very much, Joe McKenna out of Italy. Just
a quick question for you. Two people won't name one
of them, but they said to me, why didn't you
pick up yesterday on being on holiday with a family
in Italy? You know what a hypocrite? How come in
a cost of living crisis people are swanning around And
my argument was, and they're quite independent of each other.

(26:11):
My argument was people are got to be able to travel,
and just because the politicians and just because they're left
leaning politicians and all that sort of stuff. Their argument
was that they'd be the first. So if Marke had
turned up on the program yesterday say I'm just in
Italy on holiday, Ginny would have been the first to go, Oh,
that's nice for some, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Mike?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
That was an impersonation of Ginny by the way, So
should I have picked her up on that or My
argument is, if you want to go on holiday, go
on holiday, enjoy yourself.

Speaker 16 (26:37):
She might have been saving up for years ago of
that trip.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
My argument exactly night away from seven.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with rainthrowver news togs dead.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Be pessimism, It is all around us. The west Pac
McDermott Miller employment confidence survey yesterday. What can I tell you?
It's improved? Good, up one point one, but it's today
nine point nine this is for the three months to
septemp So that's understandable. That's what we've just gone through.
In other words, winter eighty nine point you need one
hundred to be positive. Unemployment is expected to wage highest

(27:09):
still five points, currently sitting at five point two. It'll
go a little bit high. Two thirds find it hard
to get a job. That's what they're telling us, especially
worrying for those under thirty and over fifty. A. Confidence
was low in most regions, weakest in Northland, strongest in Southland. Obviously,
private sector employees confidence is up six point six percent
to ninety one point six. Now that is a real number,

(27:29):
and that is encouraging. Public sector employees down two point
one to ninety four point one probably not surprising, but
that private sector, if you're feeling better about yourself, that
means the green shoots might well be real. Five away
from seven all.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
The inns and the outs.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's the fizz with business Fiber take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Research from booking dot com I think could be the
biggest pile of crap I've yet read out. This is
on food and travel. Eight thousand travelers across the Asia
Pacific region we were part of it. About a thousand
New Zealanders participated holiday homes are the new top accommodation
if you're traveling for food reasons. Seventy four percent of
US say a country's food is the reason for visiting.
Seventy one percent say they picked up a destination solely

(28:12):
to visit a particular restaurant. Now that's crap. Seventy one
percent say they've picked a destination solely to visit a
particular restaurant.

Speaker 16 (28:19):
You're always recommending flesh restaurants and flesh places.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Yeah, but you don't go to a place singularly to
do whatever you tell me to on trip. Ninety seven
percent switch up the cooking and eating habits. That doesn't
surprise me. The holiday home, but as where you get
a kitchen because you're in a holiday home and you
can cook what you want, which sounds like being at
home to me. Fifty two percent of us eat at
local restaurants when we're overseas, which strikes me as an

(28:42):
extraordinary low number. I mean, what else are you doing?
I ould I thought you'd be out eating at the
local restaurants all the time. Trolley tourism is what they
call it. We visit local markets and food festivals. Eighty
four percent of us go to the local supermarket. Ninety
one percent of holiday homebookers Whole Foods is my favorite
Canon drive Los Angeles, Beverly Hills, Whole Foods. It's the
greatest in the world. We love to take stuff with us,

(29:02):
and this is the depressing thing. Eighty three percent of
kiwis bring food on holiday, Forty one percent bring tea
and coffee, forty percent some form of alcohol that's duty free.
I guess thirty two percent chocolate, A quarter of his
pack tomato sauce. I mean, come on, a quarter of
us take pineapple lunch. That'll be to visit people, nineteen
percent marmite and veggie might. Sixteen percent take onion dip.

(29:23):
I mean, I don't believe it. It's absolute crap. I've
never met anybody who takes onion dip with them and
fifteen percent take. But I don't think they're at your
end of the plane. Do you think that's right? Honestly,
at your end of the plane, Glenn, do you find.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
People we're opening it on the plane, we're sharing, sharing
the chips and the dip, having a great time back me,
you should come back and see us.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Goodness sake, big cannabis bust one hundred and twenty houses
who knew, Well, we'll probably all it actually to be
Frank and some good news from farming more medicine. So
we'll talk to David.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
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Speaker 3 (30:06):
Seven past seven. So the new Reserve Bank governor is
doctor Anna Breman out of Sweden. Only the second time
we've had someone from off shore, of course three hundred
candidates in the field. She comes to us from the
rix Bank, which is where she's been. The deputy governor,
Selva Berziki is the Swedish economist for Bloomberg Economic cerenders
with us on this sober morning.

Speaker 7 (30:24):
Hi, good morning.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
The role of the rix Bank in terms of handling
of COVID and whether it is perceived to have handled
things generally well during that period.

Speaker 7 (30:35):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
And have they is it perceived in Sweden as having
handled that particular period?

Speaker 9 (30:41):
Will?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think it's of course looking back twenty twenty vision.
It's you can always find items of diversity of discussion
and criticism. I think that all the economies at the
time were faced with high inflation coming from supply side
shocks and a lot of the times countries like Sweden

(31:07):
small open economy, just like in New Zealand, I think
we were faced with a lot of headwind that we
weren't accustomed to in that kind of setting. Then having
a mandate that has the central bank targeting inflation law
and stable inflation, it becomes a tough choice then for

(31:28):
the policymaker to handle the growth and labor side effects
versus the inflation. So I think in that regard they've
done They've done a They've done a quite well job.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
She is an academic economist and part of the issue
we would argue here is they've misread what we would
call the real world. In other words, they're too busy
sitting in meetings and offices and not you know, taking
the true vibe of the economy. Is that an issue
or has been an issue for the Reserve Bank in
Sweden as well or not.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
In Sweden, rate transmission is very very fast because borrowing
costs are quite short term, rather flexible, especially the kind
of boring cost that matters for the household the long
term mortgage rates. So in that way, having any decision
that they've taken in terms of either the raids decision
or the guidance that they provide has transmitted quite fast

(32:22):
and through to the economy. Now in there our in
house scoring of Brayman's tenure as the first Deputy Governor
at the Rix Bank, she's quite balanced and very inflation focused,
and she considers domestic and international factors thoroughly in her arguments.
So that's going to show her quite well as she
moves to another small economy. But relative to other executive

(32:47):
board members at the Ris Bank, we rank her as
leaning slightly dovish, meaning she is, you know, first and
foremost targeting inflation, of course, but it's seemingly favoring growth
serns a little bit more than the other members. Just
an example, she was one of the few dissenters in
favor of a smaller hike in twenty twenty three. Now

(33:10):
at the time, inflation was running at multiples of the
two percent target, and she said, well, no, the team
longer term outlook actually should prevent us from going hard
on that hike. So in that way, I think she's
going to be a quite well balanced person to have
at the helm.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Great insight. Sel appreciate it very much. Selva Buziki, who's
the Sweeden economist for the Bloomberg Economics, I seemed like
a likable, approachable person and I take great hope from
the fact that yesterday, as I said, I think yesterday
on the program that we can attract international talent from
offshore still to the country, which says something about US reputationally,
which is good. Eleven past seven Pascar it looks like

(33:52):
the police were into the cannabis fight. Sting in July
and August saw ten tons destroyed, one hundred and twenty
grow houses raided across Auckland Auckland alone, So the Hall
they think about five eight million Callum mcneils, the police
detective and spectrum in charge of this and these with
us morning, Where are we at with cannabis versus any
other drug use in terms of supply and use in
this country? And how big a deal is this bust?

Speaker 17 (34:16):
Look cannabis, you know, like a lot of drugs, is
obviously I llegal. Currently our main concern around cannabis is
just the amount that has been grown by these transnational
organized crime groups. You know that money that is made
from growing cannabis has gone towards other criminal activities forward

(34:38):
money laundering and other criminal offenses. So it is a
concern for us. And as a result of sort of
sustained intelligence gathering and compete community reporting, which is a
real rise and these cannabis growth houses into organized crime recently.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Put it into context. One hundred and twenty houses to me,
sounds like a lot of houses. Is this like a
massive bust.

Speaker 17 (35:02):
It is in relation to cultivation of cannabis. It's probably
one of the largest ones we've done in the past.
Like I say, it just indicates just how many there
are out there. And I have no doubt they are
back up and running now and new houses.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Wow.

Speaker 17 (35:20):
And it's just something we have.

Speaker 12 (35:21):
To keep on top of.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Are they all linked once you start, once you start ferreting,
are they all essentially linked or are these all individuals
doing their own thing.

Speaker 17 (35:29):
There is a lot of entrepreneurs out there that will
have four to five houses each. We're not seeing. You know,
It's not like your traditional biking structure where you've got
a president an then a sergeant of arms and you've
got a whole lot of people under you. They are
quite independent in the way they operate.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
It must be demand driven. I mean everyone must be
on cannabis. I mean, you can't have one hundred and
twenty houses in Auckland alone without somebody somewhere buying a
shed load of this stuff and smoking it.

Speaker 17 (36:01):
Yeah, absolutely indicates that there is a you know, it's
that whole supply and demand. There's obviously the demand for it,
so they'll always be that supply and people growing it.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
What are the consequences here, I mean, are these people
taken out of the game now because they'll hit the
justice system and being banged up, or are they back
at it in a couple of weeks time.

Speaker 17 (36:22):
With these particular individuals, the majority we're Vietnamese. A large
amount of the food arrests that we made just during
this operation they were already illegally in New Zealand and
we're liable for the cautions, so they have been deported.
We have a few games through the court system. It's

(36:43):
one of those things where you know, if we do
arrest someone, we put them before the court, they will
get bail it's not a generally not a prisonable offense.
And we're finding these people back in these cowhouses. So
you know, we're working with our partners really close to
the immigration in the IE and we're to be deported than.

Speaker 12 (37:02):
We are deporting.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Good well done, keep the good work up, Kellum McNeil
out of the police for us. This morning I got
probably the best prize we've ever given away on this
program to tell you about. Shortly fourteen passed.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
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Speaker 3 (37:18):
At b right oh, sixteen past seven, actually seventeen past seven,
the Auckland Council voted to adopt the so called one
twenty planned yesterday. This intensification simple terms high rises focused
around public transport, replaces the idea of three three story
houses on a basic plot of land. Anyway, Morris Williams
and Auckland councilors with us morrows morning, Good morning, eighteen
to five. Good clear result was.

Speaker 8 (37:39):
It tents No, Well, it actually wasn't even eighteen to
five because the key clause Clause A, which was to
get rid of the old plan Chain seventy eight, which
had all the mdrs rubbish in it. That was pretty
much unanimous. The problem was we were being offered two choices.
One was ghastly and one was not quite so ghastly.
And it's been driven by the problem of the government

(38:01):
or insisting on planning to two million houses. Now they
openly say that. Well, first of all, you've got to
find out where they come with that number. And it
turns out if you took every plot of land in
Auckland and multiplied by the three by three that is
three dwelling at three buildings with three stories on it,
you'd get to the two million. Now they're saying for
the next thirty years we're going to need about another

(38:22):
two hundred and forty one thousand homes in Auckland turn
in forty one thousand, and yet the plan is to
build a two million. Why is the two million important?
The higher you set that number, the more you drive
intensification right down into the suburbs. I'm a big fan
of building intensely along the rail corridors and the busways

(38:42):
and even things like the Packernger Highway and around the
town centers. All of that stuff I'm fine with. But
to go into sort of suburban streets and force one
ghastly piece of junk with no car parks, everyone's parking
in the street and so on. Devalue everyone else's property
when it's not needed didn't make sense. Just the government's
lost a plot on it.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
In my dear Yeah, And is there a resentment within
the council that you've been told what to do from Wellington?

Speaker 8 (39:08):
There has to be, because you know, this should have
been a lot more of consultation, but a lot more
of negotiating around what that upper figure would be. If
we were working to a one point five million, you'd
still get all of what we're looking for in terms
of the rail corridors and around the rail stations and
so on, which I think is all perfectly sensible, but
you'd get rid of all of the three story three

(39:30):
dwellings on a parcel of land because it wouldn't be
necessary if you were working to a more realistic upper limit.
The government Still, i'd love you one day when you've
got a minister and say, how did you come up
with a two million?

Speaker 12 (39:40):
Where did that come?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Well, I'll ask Bishop next time he's on. It's Bishop.
The meaning is he the person that the.

Speaker 8 (39:45):
Manager if he could give you a reasonable answer for
where the two million come from. M'd be really surprised
because I can't get one from anyone.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
All right, So now we go to consultation and that
takes I mean, I think I'll be retired by the
time anything actually gets built.

Speaker 15 (39:58):
But you go.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Marris Williamson out of be Brooklyn Council this morning, David
Seamaw's got some good news from FARMAC. More savings means
more money to be spent on more medicine, so we'll
take a bit of that. Ryan Fox after eight o'clock
nineteen past.

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Oscar seven twenty three. Was I feeling slightly sorry for
our Prime minister lunchtime yesterday? Perhaps a little there? He

(41:26):
was another stand up. He does won most days, by
the way, a non sitting weeks, and as I keep saying,
they are well worth watching. You get detail and nuance
that you never hear in a news bulletin. He's out
at the airport more high vers being peppered with questions
ranging from decent to a name. His boardroom numbers came
up he said he was the captain of the team.
He didn't look or sound and battle to me, which
he shouldn't be. By the way, the deal made of

(41:47):
the deal made yesterday is but a twenty four hour
blip in an ever diminishing news cycle. Must be hard,
I was thinking to myself. Must be hard getting at
most days in some way shape or for me. Has
He has to feel a bit cheated that the year
of growth has not turned out that way. Although let's
be honest, Q one was fantastic if you remember, and
we haven't even got qes three and four, so maybe
he'll head into Christmas feeling half decent. Luxton seems to

(42:10):
suffer from a couple of things. I was thinking to
himself yesterday afternoon won the economy and its lack of
fire is on him. It's on him, that's fair enough.
But two, we haven't warmed to him basically have we.
We don't dislike him, but he's not John Key, and
I think in that that's really the number. But most leaders,
let's be honest, are not like us. In my life
of political awareness, hardly anyone actually catches fire. Longie we

(42:31):
loved for a while. Funny one liners the fat guy
who drank Coca cola raised cars. But Shipley and Bulgeder
and Clark, they were competent, but we didn't really love them,
did we. Key was generational. This is the problem. He
was a generational talent and it's still haunts national, especially
given he left on a high and we never learned
to get sick of him. Adune was a talent as well,

(42:51):
and fifty percent of New Zealanders and voting for it
in twenty twenty had fallen under the spell sucked and
good by one of the greatest political con operators of
the mind. She polled, well, but what did you get?

Speaker 11 (43:02):
Ah?

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Do you want window dressing? What do you want results?
For a country that doesn't actually vote for a prime minister?
We seem to have tried to turn it into a thing.
I mean, the op ed Steers can probably give the leadership.
Rumlings Bs arrest as well. Hipkins and Luxon will lead
their parties into the election. No one is going anywhere.
The upside for Luxen is when this place turns, and

(43:23):
it will, the good days will arrive, and when his
numbers rise with it, he will enjoy the success more
given success is best tasted after a few bad days
to keep it real asking got an answer yesterday raised
on the program, this time by one of the people
on the show, questioning the holidays slash sick leave changes
announced by Brooklyn Velden Wednesday. He wanted to know, you know,

(43:45):
an ordinary working day. What does an ordinary working day mean?
Good question? So we went to her office. So if
it's in the employment agreement or based on a set
pattern of work that takes care of that. If it's
not in black and white, then a worker listened to this.
This is interesting. A worker must have worked that day
of the week that the public holiday falls on for
seven out of the preceding thirteen weeks, or approximately half

(44:06):
the last quarter. So you can allegedly work it out
from that. Now, let me come to something that we're
doing as of next week and go to newstalkzb dot
co dot nz Ford slash Visa, because the very good
people that Visa are bringing this is now you're going
to need to join a couple of dots at this
particular point in time and see where you think you're heading.

(44:28):
So what we're doing is next week we're giving five
hundred dollars away a day and when you win that,
that puts you into qualification into the Grand Prize, which
is a VIP experience to the Melbourne Race. And you go,
what Melbourne Race and it's not horses, So we can
rule that out immediately. It's not horses. So the Melbourne Race.

(44:48):
Business class flights for two because I insist on that,
are no one in the show travels economy. It's business
class flights for two, accommodation, a track once against not horses,
a track experience and two thousand dollars spending money. Now
it's thanks to Visa. You should have enough there to
connect Visa and track and Melbourne to something pretty damn exciting.

Speaker 16 (45:12):
Some kind of slot car convention.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
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Speaker 3 (45:38):
Three minutes away from later. It got more funding for
new medicines from Farmac. Everything from multiple sclerosis, breast cancer,
ye conditions, laning cancer potentially affects seventeen hundred of US
in year one rises to four thousand dish by year five.
David Seymour is, of course Associatements from Health that in
charge of FARMAK and is with us. Very good morning,
Good morning mate. Broadly speaking, can we say the turnaround

(45:59):
of that particular agency has worked.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
It is working. We've made a lot of changes. We
have changed out a lot of the board. Paula Bennett's
done a great job as the chair. We have a
new chief executive who just started last week. That's Natalie McMurtry.
We did a huge global search. She's come out of
the Canadian province of Alberta. We've done a big culture

(46:25):
review which has revealed a lot of problems. And the
next step is to make sure that we are doing
really good budget bids so that instead of Farmac taking
the money it has and trying to negotiate within it,
we're actually going to the Minister of Finance each year
and saying, look, we think if we funded a few

(46:45):
more drugs, we would be able to save the taxpayer
money in other areas. And not to say this will happen,
but you look at some of these drugs, like a zempic.
If we can cut down obesity, that can save huge
amounts of money on everything from orthopedic surgery to kidney dialysis.
So it's a work in progress, but I'm really proud

(47:07):
of the way that FARMAC has responded so far, and
a lot of people are saying that it's a different
organization from eighteen months.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Let me come back to the gop ones in just
a couple of moments. You mentioned the new CEO. The
only reason become interested in this is out of yesterday's
Reserve Bank announcement. So your global search does that, and
I'm just hopeful that's all. There are people in the
world who look at New Zealand and still see it
as a good landing spot and they can contribute something positive.
Is that fair to say? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Absolutely, And without going into too much detail or being
critical of our Canadian friends, I've sat down with Natalie
talked about how the job will work for her here
in New Zealand, how it's worked for her in the past,
and I think that she's going to really be pleased
to work in the FARMAC environment. No one's denying it

(47:58):
had problems. That's why I was keen to take on
the job. But you know, our job is to make
farm AC the world leading medical technology assessor and there'll
be more announcements about that just next week. So yeah,
I think we can make it a very attractive place.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Kiwis can fly good. You talk about, you know, the
big picture on gpl ones and stuff like that. How
much of what this announcement about is simply savings. You
go do a deal with somebody and make it a
sharper deal there for instead of spending fifty bucks, you
spend thirty five. Take the fifteen spender elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
That's exactly what's happening, and it's routine. I'm not here
to jump up and down and take the credit for it,
but I am here to praise the people that do
it because New Zealand would have a lot fewer problems
if a few more people just did their job. That's
what these people at FARMAC do every year. They negotiate
really hard. They get better deals. If things come off patent,

(48:52):
they say, look, we need a better deal now. If
there's an alternative substitute that's cheaper. Sometimes they can negotiate
that now, using the money that they've saved recently to
negotiate for five new drugs that are going to help
with everything from multiple sclerosis to lung cancer, and that
I think is just a good example of people doing

(49:14):
the job. So if anyone in Farmac listens to zb public,
I'm sure they do, then you know, thank you. People
do appreciate what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
The gpl one thing. So, having followed your rationale since
you got to government, which is the idea that if
you can spend money now and in the long term
do something profound by way of saving surely the gpl
one thing is the best global example at the moment.
This seems to me to be transformational.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Yeah, it's very exciting what's happening with those drugs, and
I don't want to start predicting a particular drug because
the independence of Farmac remains absolutely key. What we're trying
to do is find a way that Farmac can make
a budget bid to the minister and say we will
save money if you give us more, but we're not

(50:04):
going to tell you exactly which drugs, because if they said, yeah,
we'll fund a zempic and that's going to save you
on hip operations, then you get back to the Minister
of Finance of the day effectively choosing drugs, and then
you get campaigns and it's a popularity contest and it's
supposed to be about medicine and science. So we're finding
a way to do rigorous but blind budget bids and

(50:27):
I think we're just about there, so we'll be looking
to make such a bid in the budget this year.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
A couple of things while I've got you willis yesterday,
as part of that boardroom thing with a Herald said
that if they'd been there by themselves, Nationals been there
by themselves, they would have focused less on Maori issues.
She cites you in New Zealand first as being the
issue around that.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
What do you say to that, Well, first of all,
I'm sure that's true. We have driven the agenda for
New Zealand to be treated with New Zealanders, to be
treated with equal dignity, regardless of their background. It's critical
that we do that because if I was to say, look,
you know what is one of the biggest reasons New
Zealand's in a funk, It's because we're a nation of pioneers.

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We all moved out here for a better life, and
yet instead of focusing on what binds us together, we
spend far too much time bickering about relatively minor, superficial differences,
and we can't be set up with a whole legal
framework that is based on the differences rather than what
we have in common. Has it been difficult to take
that on?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Some people frustrated that, they say that it's distracting.

Speaker 18 (51:32):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
Can we succeed while we continue to march down a
path of division at a deep constitutional level and at
every single government department. No, I'm glad we took it on.

Speaker 9 (51:43):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Does that show that the coalition has actually been had
value added by parties such as acts?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Absolutely right. As far as you can explain this to me,
are you tomorrow meeting is a cabinet with Peter's on
zoom from New York, having gathered the information from as
many and varied meetings on Palestine, and you will all
sit around and have an actual vote on whether to
recognize Palestine or not? Or is this just a massive

(52:12):
smoke screen?

Speaker 4 (52:16):
The truth is halfway between. It's certainly not a smoke screen.
I'm not aware that there will be a full cabinet meeting,
and cabinet has not voted in the time that I've
been a part of it. What cabinet has done is
delegated the ability to alter an initial decision to certain
ministers if need be, so that is very much an

(52:40):
open possibility. It's true that Cabinet has the ability to
change the decision through the ministers. It's delegated too, and
I guess we remain ready for the Prime Minister to
call that sort of meeting.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Given what I'm assuming he will say Saturday morning. How
does it sit with you a person who stood on
the tiles the other day and say, how do you
possibly recognize somebody that holds hostages?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Well, everybody's expressed that view. I mean, Chris Luxon said
a very similar thing on your show on Friday. How
I sit with it as a personal thing. Whatever happens,
I'm going to be supporting the government position because that's
what I signed up for. But let's just see how
it goes. I'm looking forward to seeing a sensible announcement

(53:32):
from New Zealand, and I think when we get to it,
having been the people who have seriously considered all the facts,
rather than jumped up and down perhaps for a bit
of political theater, as some other countries may have done,
I think New Zealand will be able to hold its
heat high.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Appreciate your time. David Seymour, Associate Minister of Health. What
an excellent insight that was seven five.

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Speaker 12 (54:01):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
Twelve minutes away from at Let me ask you this question,
how do you think New Zealand is going to go
Saturday morning with Winston Peters? Do you think they will
recognize Palestine or do you think they will not? Knowing
what you know about David Seymour and his view of things,
listen to this again when we get to it.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Having been the people who have seriously considered all the facts,
rather than jumped up and down, perhaps for a bit
of political theater, as some other countries may have done,
I think New Zealand will be able to hold its
yet high.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
That simply tells you everything you need to know, doesn't
it without telling you specifically it probably? My guess is
that tells you so much that if Winston Peters were
to listen to that right now, you could hear his
head exploding from New York. So we think Dave for
being insightful. Apart from anything else. Instagram's Cross three billion

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News is that's of any interest or to you. Facebook
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I will come back to it because it's worth thinking
about if you're into cars and stuff. Anyway, Hondra and
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Acura or Acura Electric crossover market conditions for evs. They

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were going to start doing their twenty six model this month.
This is in spring Hill in Tennessee. They're not doing
that now because no one's buying evs. But I go
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is very very good. Need does a couple of things
that sustainable fuels. Sustainable fuels I think are the future,

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as opposed to it all sort of jury mandar jury
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The problem is if one used them. The problem is
they run at about five hundred pounds per liter, so
that's probably a little more than the three dollars eighty
ish or whatever it is a liter two dollars eighty
ish or whatever it is at the moment, so five
hundred pounds a liter for the sustainable fuels, but that

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of course will come down. The real problem is in airlines,
and at the moment the International Air Authority, you're arguing
that everything must be the same, no matter where that
plane lands in the world, it must be the same fuel.
But there's a big race on at the moment between
making sustainable fuels out of waste and making sustainable fuels
out of water. They split the H and the O
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at the moment, so until they get that lined up,
we're going nowhere fast. But essentially he thinks that sustainable
fuels are the answer in the future, not battery electric vehicles.

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out in ten years toime. It'll be an everyday thing.
Is that how you think this will happen?

Speaker 18 (57:03):
That's what we like to think. So, yeah, to make
it nice and available to a New Zealander no matter
what sport, concussion is a real problem around our communities
and this is a device that we think can go
a long way to helping people in those bad situations.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
How does it how's it going to work? Do you
see it initially at elite level or if it is,
do you need to change the rules? I mean, you know,
when do you bring it on? What's the really you know, yes,
you've got concussion. Do you go off for two minutes
or six weeks or how it works?

Speaker 18 (57:36):
Yeah, at the moment where where we're working with the
New Zealand Roby Union and any other partner who's interested,
and we think it's a great tool to use alongside
a doctor to make those decisions in the professional game,
But we really feel that it's probably going to be
most suited in the in the amateur game where there
isn't a doctor on the sideline. Often it's a club

(57:57):
coach or a parent, even sometimes coaching junior sports teams,
and they're just in a situation where it's impossible for
them to know. So this device is portable, can be
used on the sideline, and just a quick two minute
test and it's a yes or no whether the player
can return to the field or no he or she can't.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Go back to when you were getting elite at sixteen,
eighteen nineteen whatever, and you've got a being and you
feel fine and you're about to win the game and
you're fizzing and someone comes in with a set of
goggles and goes, mate, you're off. How would you feel.

Speaker 18 (58:31):
In that moment. You're probably only getting a test if
you've taken a reasonable hit and people around you sort
of know possibly that there is being a problem before,
these coaches and whatnot, So you're probably in a situation
where you're maybe a bit dazed, a bit goggy. If
you take a hit and bounce up pretty straight away,
then there's not a lot of chance. But normally, normally

(58:54):
see with the concussions and someone being knocked out there
that they're a lying on the ground, a stumbling that
there is there a moment where they're not well. So
it's in those moments we need to test people because
if that person goes back on and receives the second off,
that that can be fatal. And that's the one that
we're really trying to stop.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Super exciting, Mate, We'll go well with Steve Devine former
All Black and three thousand dollars a pop for clubs
and stuff. I mean, it may be an impediment, but
at the highest level it certainly won't be I would
have thought, which is interesting. So this morning so far
we've had that Huntington's breakthrough. This appears to be some
sort of game changer that gp one discussion with David Seymour.
There's a lot of medicine going on at the moment.

(59:31):
Exciting times, Mike, we will recognize it. With enough conditions,
it will mean nothing could be could be a Maloney,
the Georgie of Maloney. If you missed it with Joe
earlier on, she basically says, if this, this, this, this,
and this happens, we'll do it. I get the vibe
that that's probably where we're heading. A lot of people
texting me and saying, look to Singapore. Winston loves Singapore.
Look at what Singapore has done and me as your answer.

(59:53):
News next, then Ryan Fox for.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Be it a seven plast eight A time for catch
up with Ryan Fox, who is home? I assume, apart
from anything reflecting on what has been an excellent year.
Two tour titles, PGA Tour titles of course, and you
might have seen this week a will record holder as well. Anyway,
we'll explain all of that, and Ryan Fox is But
it's good to see you, Mike, and you look well
and healthy and vibrant. And I guess that's what winning
does for a person.

Speaker 16 (01:00:25):
Yeah, yeah, it's coming back this year. I reth it
feels a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:00:30):
I've achieved a dream this year, which is pretty cool
to be able to say winning on the PGA Tour.
And now I got eight weeks off and get to
be a dad and do some fishing and hang around
in your zelle. I haven't spent much time here this year,
so looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Are you a relaxer? Can you walk away for eight
weeks or not.

Speaker 16 (01:00:46):
No, no, I got dad's jeans in that regard. Unfortunately,
he's never been one that's good at relaxing either, So
I need to do stuff like you know, I'll do
stuff with the kids, I'll go fishing, I'll catch up
with friends, and you know, I'll have some corporate days
and stuff like that to play, but I will be
able to stay away from the golf course at least.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
So you're playing before the end of the year again, yep.

Speaker 16 (01:01:06):
I've got two events in Ozzie, PGA Aussie Open, which
are last week of November, first week of December, and
then got some golf days and stuff early early December,
and then back into the PGA Tour early January.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
And you're doing the Australian thing for what reason? I
mean other than winning obviously. I mean, is that to
keep you in touch before you hit the PGA again.

Speaker 12 (01:01:26):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (01:01:26):
Yeah, So you know, if I took three months off,
I feel like it to take a while to get
back to that level. And going to Ossie. You know,
they're great events. We get to play the Aussie Open
at Royal Melbourn, which is always regarded as one of
the best golf courses in the world, and they're always
really good events to play, so it's kind of it's
I feel like that's the start of my season. This
is my holiday right now, and then you know, those

(01:01:49):
Aussie events are the start of the season and I
got another few weeks off and then get properly back
into it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
How long does it take you to get back into it?

Speaker 16 (01:01:58):
I always feel like I need a couple of events
to find it. Like I'm some guys are really good
at just practicing and turning up to an event and
they're ready to go. I tend to be one of
those guys. I need to find the confidence on the
golf course and that it's it's different playing in a
tournament pressure and you know, if you can hit some
shots that are good when it counts, that's where I

(01:02:19):
get my confidence from. So you know, I always I've
never been great like first week back. I kind of need,
you know, one under my bolt to kind of find it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
How's your year and how's you will changed with the
level of success in that sense? Do you front at
a tournament feeling different about yourself now?

Speaker 16 (01:02:37):
A little bit? I mean, I guess I can look
back on it now and go. I've always believed that
my good golf was good enough to beat the best
players in the world, and you know, especially in that
Canadian Open, it I did beat a decent chunk of
them that week. And you know, you've always got that
in the back of your mind that I've done it
once I know I can do it. If I'm in

(01:02:58):
that situation again, it's it's it's easier once you know
you've done it, but then you've also got that expectation
that you kind of expect to play well, and sometimes,
you know, expectation doesn't quite live up to reality in
that regard. So it was a tough end of the season.
But yeah, I feel like I belong a bit more
on the PGA Tour and I've got guarantee status going forward,

(01:03:21):
and you know, it's a little bit easier to play
when you don't have the pressure of trying to keep
your job on your shoulders.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Do people see you differently, treat you differently? So when
you go to Melbourne, for example, you you go as
a heavier weight now than you have previously.

Speaker 16 (01:03:35):
Yeah, definitely that has changed quite a lot in the
last well this year. Basically, you know, getting bigger groups
on a Thursday and Friday, which generally means you're more
of a marquee player and certainly get noticed a bit
more at events, and you know, definitely back home in
New Zealand than I have done in previous years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Which is is that enjoyable?

Speaker 16 (01:03:58):
Yeah, it's weird. I mean obviously I grew up with
that with dad, and I yeah, I find it strange
that people show that much interest. Like I just whack
a white ball around and I'm somewhat good at at times.
It's it's really cool, but it's yeah, I still find
it quite strange.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
I always remember Michael Campbell when he won the Big Open.
He said, the beatter you get, the easier it becomes.
Is that true? And the cheaper it becomes as well.
And I remember interviewing Mark Brown. You mean Mark So
he used to drive across Canada with his mates in
a rental car because they couldn't afford the car, and
then he'd stay at Motel six and stuff like that.

(01:04:33):
But you know, as you get more successful, it's it
all gets laid out in front of you.

Speaker 16 (01:04:37):
Yeah, it kind of goes the wrong way in that regard,
Like the people coming up are the ones that need
the help, that need the free hotel rooms, get paid
to play in all of that. But from a commercial sense,
it's the big guys that generate all the income for
a tournament, so they're the ones that get locked after properly.
I'm certainly not and Rory's shoes or anything like that,
but you know, get the odd free room and get

(01:04:58):
looked after a tournaments stuf like that, And it certainly
gets easier in that regard. But you've also got a
few more time commitments that you have to do, you know,
filming for events and social media and stuff like that
that come with being one of those top players. And yeah,
some ways it gets easier, Like the money side gets easier,
the you know, you're not playing for your job all

(01:05:20):
of that stuff, but you get a bit more asked
of your time.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
What's the difference between you and Scheffler or you and
Rory as you look at them in a tournament.

Speaker 16 (01:05:32):
I mean, in percentage, it's probably not that much, but
that percentage means a lot over four days ago. You know,
I think we're looking at someone in Scottish Leffler now
that is just crazy good, Like he's the best since
Tiger which is saying something. And Rory's been in the
top ten of the world rankings for near on twenty years.

Speaker 18 (01:05:54):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:05:55):
You know those they're just they're the best and they're
like you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
But you can't see it, and it's it's not I
played with Peter c once, you remember half and I
watched with Peter seen and I mean, I was no good.
I was just a pro am thing. But I watched
him and I thought, there's not a lot about you
that's so much clearly, so much better than me. But
it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
But it was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
I came to the conclusion it was consistency. Everything he
did worked and the reason you're not him is because
everything you do doesn't work.

Speaker 16 (01:06:26):
Yeah, obviously it's not that extreme like you know, but Scotty.
Scotty is the consistent one. Scotty is the one that
does it. He just hits every shot that you need
to have. He drives it well. He has iron plays
the best in the world by long way. Short game
is really solid. He's turned himself into a great part
of and that's why he's in contention every week. He
doesn't have a weakness. Rory is the guy that you

(01:06:51):
watch and he does the stuff that you can't quite believe,
Like Rory hits a few shots that you just scratch
your head out and go, I don't have that. And
I think for me, if Rory plays his best, he's
probably the best player in the world. But Scotty plays
his best weekend, week out, and Rory does it more
a few weeks a year. But Scott is the one
you look at and go, well, I feel like you

(01:07:12):
could kind of get to that level because it's just consistent.
Rory just hits a few shots that are just unbelievable,
and he's the guy that, you know, that's why he
gets He's still the big draw card. He can hit that.
You know, you watch the Masters, some of those shots
he hit coming down the stretch were just unbelievable, both
in a good sense and a bad sense. And that's yeah,

(01:07:32):
that's why he's so good to watch. And that's what like,
you feel like you can't compete with him when he's
in full flow.

Speaker 18 (01:07:37):
But Scott is just and.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
That's it gets before you get to the mental thing.
Let's talk about chasing the Fox and just a moment,
Ryan Fox is with a sport team past.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
H B News Talks B the seventeen minutes past eight,
Ryan Fox is with us. I could talk to you
about forever about gold, but the chasing the Fox thing
seems to me to have become a thing like something
started out nice charity of entcetera. Is a is a
big deal now, is it?

Speaker 16 (01:08:06):
It is a really big deal. I mean last year
we had seven hundred thousand people watch it on TV
on Friday night, which was pretty good impressive, and this
year looks even bigger. We've got a new naming right
sponsor in Minuka Manuka Manuka Fuel. You know, TV's back
on board. We've changed our format a little bit this
year to make it a bit more interesting, bit more
competitive for us. The guys playing their own ball have

(01:08:27):
struggled a little bit in the last couple of years,
and its six hole sprint. It can if you don't
get off the blocks quick, it's pretty hard to be competitive.
And yeah, it's it's going great, guns fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Who's who's you make you're bringing or are you're not
telling me that?

Speaker 16 (01:08:42):
Where we're still working through that right, you know, it's
it's a concept. Nick Randall, who is the brains behind it,
and I talked about for a while. Try to make
it more competitive and try to make it more interesting.
And you're still trying to figure out who we're going
to bring. But we've got some some good names in the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Mix, good and over took Horses.

Speaker 16 (01:09:00):
No, it's just just same same Royal Auckland. We're playing
six holes. It's I think we're starting at sort of
five thirty six o'clock and you'll be primetime TV the.

Speaker 11 (01:09:14):
Well.

Speaker 16 (01:09:14):
I mean that's crazy, right, but the team media is
defending champions as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
No way, yep, because they don't work.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
No.

Speaker 16 (01:09:21):
Well, Rigors dropped out. He was the star last year.
You want to take his place?

Speaker 17 (01:09:26):
No, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
He's there's something. What's the link between particularly cricket and golf.
Is it just the you can swing a bat, therefore
you will be good at both.

Speaker 16 (01:09:37):
Yeah. I think the hand eye coordination definitely crosses over there.
I think too, it's not not just cricket. Like a
lot of the sports, see golf as a really good
break from everything. That's you can't really hurt yourself, especially
if you're jumping a golf cart. It's not stressful on
your legs or anything. So a lot of the guys,
rugby guys, cricket guys all travel with golf clubs now

(01:09:59):
because they can do that day off. They get to
go to some cool places, play some cool golf courses,
and you know, I know the all Blacks have three
or four groups a week, go and play. I think
the Black Caps are pretty much the same.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Mertens was off for two I think from a memory
he was like bordering on being like a serious athlete.
The par three thing you were playing seemed weird, so
your whole you will record. So it was one sixty yards,
one sixty So three people in the team. One person hits,
next person does the second if a third is needed,
which was you? Was that a short straw for you?

(01:10:30):
Would you rather hit no shot?

Speaker 16 (01:10:32):
Paul Rank, I want it. I figured that would be
the easiest job. And I was the oldest out of
the three guys doing it. I was like, well, I
want the tap in. And Minwu Lee is known as
doctor Chapinski because he chips in a lot, so we're like, well,
he makes sense to hit the second ship second shot
if he has to do some chipping and Dan Bravery.
I think he got the short straw because I think
hitting the green ten times in a row or eleven

(01:10:54):
times a row like he did as.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
The years for one sixty yards, what it was using.

Speaker 16 (01:10:58):
It was a little bit under the winds, so I
think he was hitting like a little chip eight iron.
So it's that one hundred and forty five meters.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
That's not bad. And so how many times do you
have to tap in? How many times you hit three?

Speaker 16 (01:11:09):
I think in the record it was like six, seven
or six times. Min Wu hold a couple of parts
for Birdie which helped our score massively. Like we did it.
The first time we did it, we thought maybe we'd
get maybe seven or eight. Seven was a record. If
we could get to eight, that would be good. But
Min made a couple of parts and made it, gave
us a bit more time, and it was pretty cool

(01:11:31):
to be a record older.

Speaker 19 (01:11:31):
Not so.

Speaker 12 (01:11:33):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
By the way, I've never asked you this, would you
rather defend a big tournament? Would you rather defend the
lead or chase it?

Speaker 16 (01:11:42):
I'd rather defend the lead because that means you've you're
you've got it under control.

Speaker 3 (01:11:47):
Well, well, have you you start with a four shot
lead and it goes to three and it's two and
you're on the sixteenth and they've just birdied and it's
now one behind.

Speaker 16 (01:11:57):
Yeah, I've done that, and Raso Khimer a few years
ago to six shot lead overnight on Saturday, and I
did not sleep, Like sleeping on a lead sucks. It's
awful because all you can think of is what if?
And then I got off to a slow start. I
think I bowed you the fourth and I was standing
on the seventh tee and it was a two shot lead.
And then at that point all you're thinking of is

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no one, Like the only thing people will remember is
that you lost a six shot lead. And thankfully I
pulled my finger out on the back nine and I
ended up winning by four or five. And then it
looked comfortable, but it wasn't comfortable. But I think coming
down the stretch is better with a lead, Like, you
know what you have to do, You have to be
really solid overnight. Being the chaser, you definitely sleep a

(01:12:41):
little better if you know, you know, I've got a
could be a good day, it could be a good day.
You know you don't have that pressure leading, But yeah,
I'd rather have the lead than be chasing it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Fantastic. Always good to catch up with you mate, Go
well and good luck with chasing the Fox. Thanks Mike,
thanks for having nice to see Ryan Fox.

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at reception and you go, I've got a GP's visit

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and they go, sure, no problem. They call you a cab,
call your cab. Latest guy traveled two hundred and fifty
miles in the cab, costing six hundred pounds, and you
wonder why they've got problems in that particular part of
the world. Public transport or walking is not presented as
an option for your asylum seekers in Britain. Amazing a
rod little from the UK after the news, which is

(01:14:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
B I do bucket up and listen to the numbers.
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is Fonterra the financial year of twenty twenty five. They
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The break even yesterday was about eight sixty six something

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like that. Anyway, you're in clover collections as in the
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point six so record collections. The forecast's milk price is
ranging at this point anyway between nine and eleven. That'll
get narrowed down. Obviously, their forecast earnings range is forty
five to sixty five cents a share, and their forecast

(01:16:10):
milk collection has been revised up, so they're collecting even
more of it. They think to one point five two
five million kilos of milk solids that all day long
is a laydown massiir. If it's not a record breaking time,
it's a very good time for New Zealand and congratulations
to Fontira twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Let's go to Britain on a little good morning you
make right now, give us the background because most of
us will have forgotten this. The the Koran burner, the
man who got knifed. What's happened.

Speaker 12 (01:16:46):
Yeah, so what happened was a blow that has been
protesting about Islam is a former is Muslim himself anti
birds a copy of the Koral and shouted Islam is evil,
Islam is evil. And he was a by the police.
And you've got community service, you've got fined I think
two hundred and forty quid, but someone tried to kill him.

(01:17:09):
A Muslim ran out of the Turkish embassy with a
large carving knife and said I'm going to kill you
and slashed at him a few times before people intervened.
He's just been in court, he's got a suspended sentence
and community service, and you know, it's in this slightly

(01:17:29):
tinder box atmosphere we have at the moment over here.
But things like this, which normally might not might we
might just say, you know, the courts probably made a
mistake there. But it just plays into this idea that
there's a two tier legal system in the country. And
there are various demands that the punishment should be revisited,

(01:17:52):
that the Crown Prosecution Service should have charged him with
something more serious than simply assault.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
What are the rules, because we're having a similar debate here,
and the Attorney General has spoken to Cabinet ministers saying
you can't go around criticizing the judiciary on things like this.
Do you have similar rules then when something like this happens, No,
we don't.

Speaker 12 (01:18:13):
We're very lucky about this, and that we can be
as horrible as we like about the judges and there,
and the magistrates.

Speaker 18 (01:18:19):
And so on.

Speaker 12 (01:18:23):
What's happened. I mean, we can all criticize judges and
do so from either political perspective or a personal perspective.
There's no great problem. However, the judges get very angry.
They think they're being politicized if you do criticize them
in this way. Whereas we would argue with many people
would argue that they've already been politicized, and this is

(01:18:44):
why this sort of thing is happening. Robert Chenrick has
demanded the CPS crime prosecution. So it's explain why the
going the Muslim question, Mussakadri didn't suffer stiffer charges such
as attempted murder for example, is that I'm going to
kill you and came in with a knife.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
How did other matters? Trump said quite the week, saying
a bunch of really random stuff Sharia Laura in London
was one that caught my attention yesterday from the UN headquarters.
But the business of Thailand or paracetamol as we know
in this particular part of the world. And farage, Yeah,
how on a hit of a pinner's farage dancing At
the moment, I think.

Speaker 12 (01:19:20):
It's very very difficult for Farage. He knows that this
plays to the far right and the intellectual far right,
the qan on those people, the fringe far right, for
the rest of us, for the ordinary voter. When you

(01:19:41):
start saying, well, comparing paracetamol to solidimize the drug which
left so many newborn babies deformed back in the sixties
and seventies, and then people are beginning to raise their
eyebrows and say, is this as mad as the stuff
which is going on in America? And it may be

(01:20:01):
because in another echo from America, he is also alleged,
with no evidence that I can see, that asylum seekers
here are eating our swans, which is of course against
the law. They all belong to King Charles and you
mustn't eat them. But it all begins to ring a
bit familiar with there if you remember Donald Trump's hilarious

(01:20:25):
they're eating all the pets, which is what he's said
about immigrants. So it's a very difficult one for Faraja,
and my guess is at the rest of reform hoping
that he moves away from it very quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Indeed, while I've got you the Home Secretary, Mahmoud, I
just you need to explain how they can get themselves
into the sort of trouble. So when you're an asylum
seeker and you're in your hotel, you're given a bus
pass and you're allowed a trip a week. But if
you've got an appointment beyond your bus pass, you go
up to reception at the hotel and say, look, the

(01:21:00):
doctor's appointment one blan like Hobson for the two hundred
and fifty mile journey to the GP, costing you guys
six hundred pounds. How is this possible?

Speaker 12 (01:21:13):
To be absolutely honest, I do not know how it's possible,
but it happens, and it happens every day. And even
in this particular case, he was a six hundred pound
round trip, which is an awful lot of money, and
it makes you think, why couldn't the NHS actually work

(01:21:33):
better so that he was able to attend somewhere closer
Number one? But number two, even in this case, the
migrant himself said, why didn't they just put me on
a train or give me the train fair? Now I
don't know why he should have the train fair in
the first case. You know, we don't get train fairs
or we go to visit hospitals and so on. But

(01:21:55):
given that they're not allowed to work, he needs to
get money from somewhere. But it's not just that there
are stackering expenses. So for example, one London borough gives
one hundred quid to the migrants so that they're to
put towards the children's school uniform. These are all things

(01:22:15):
which don't happen to the indigenous population and it really rankles.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
All right, mon and you go well and we'll catch
up next week. I appreciate it very much. Rod little
out of Britain for this morning. Just by the way,
to let you know, fantastic, the one in one outs
going gangbusters. So the first migrants from France arrived overnight.
Family of three. They don't identify them or where they're
from originally, but family of three including a small child.
They successfully completed the online application. Remember this thing was

(01:22:44):
announced in July and when now at the end of September.
So the first family of three small childs successfully completing
the online application process. And as regards and I know
you want to know how many of Britains into France
for I mean, last time I told you it was two.
So it's double, just like two four just like that.
So four out three and eight forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Mike Fonterra results. Why would you want to sell off
the family jewels? Well, you know my view on that,
but I'm not a farmer and I'm not voting. So
they would argue. Fonterira would argue that the milk solids
are their family jewels and bulk products. The ice cream isn't,
and therefore you sell the brands and it's open to
the vote by the owners. And that's coming up from
everything I hear. It will not only get the required numbers,

(01:23:34):
but them some. But you know, look you look at
what Hurrle's doing to Fonterra. You look at the bottom line,
you look at the numbers. You know, who are we
to argue with that level of success. ABC, the Australian
Broadcasting Corporation, very very bad day yesterday in the court
of you have been following the Latouff case Antoinette Latouf,
complete disaster. If you ever want to listen and how
to cock something up, follow this one from the ABC.

(01:23:56):
So they hired a woman four five days so she's
a fill in on ABC Radio in Sydney. They suggest
to her she's non activist, she's known a noisemaker. They
suggest to her she might not want to get too
active on the old social media while she's working there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
She does.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
They go and sacker because they get all angsty about it.
So she takes them to court and she wins. She
won the other day and I can't remember what she got,
but she was going back yesterday for the punit of
damages if you like, and they ended up for the
judge SID one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in addition
to the seventy thousand in compensations she got back in June.
The ABC had chosen, quote to said the judge, to

(01:24:33):
surrender to the lobbyist's political campaign by sacrificing the teof
the ABC is seen as an important public institution at
a time when trustworthy sources of news and information are
increasingly hard to find. In the course of this preceding,
the ABC made much of its board statutory duty to
ensure in partiality. However, the ABC's conduct in surrendering to
the demands of the pro Israel lobbyists ignored the equally

(01:24:54):
important statutory obligation of maintaining its independence and integrity. The
TWOP said that it's well over two million dollars chasing her,
which is probably two in lawyer's fees. Her legal team,
Latus Legal Team, argued for a penalty of up to
three hundred and fifty grand ABC said, could you make
it fifty six so the judge is settled somewhere in
the middle. The ABC demonstrated limited contrition for the broader

(01:25:16):
effects of its unlawful actions. It had failed to investigate
the source of a leak in the Australian newspaper about
her removal from radio. The ABC's capitulation in the face
of political pressure means that a penalty of sufficient weight
must be imposed to deter the ABC clock up from
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parking meter or two in at Mount Cook seven months

(01:26:46):
trial from this December to June twenty five. A day
ten dollars annual pass for locals with unlimited access sixty
dollars annual for regular visitors living outside the Mackenzie District,
free parking for twenty minutes so you can drop the
people off if you want to. They reckoned. It will
generate one and a half million dollars of revenue payment.
Machines are going to be installed, Cameras record the entry
and the exit parking company hands out the notices. Why

(01:27:09):
wouldn't that? Why am' they done that years ago? For
goodness sake? Revenue generation? For doc last time I sat
Mount Cook, they threw me in a plane and they
said we're going to go skiing. And that wasn't bad
because I happened to be a skier at the time.
But they took me up onto the glacier and it
occurred to me as we were flying up to the
glacier that I'd never skied on a glacier before, and
this might be quite problematic.

Speaker 16 (01:27:31):
Sounds quick, No it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
And then that's the story. It was knee deep, and
I mean knee deep powder snow, and knee deep powder
snow basically means you don't go that fast. And I
was incredibly grateful for that because I think if it
had been a bit slick, I would have wet my pants.
Five away from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Nine trending now with cameras, Squarehouse half praised by it
would sail on? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Are you disappointed the raptu didn't happen? So what's been
happening here? On a podcast? Aren't they all? On a
podcast three months ago, clown from South Africa called Christian,
he said the rapture would happen on the twenty third
or the twenty fourth of September.

Speaker 15 (01:28:06):
The rapture, whether you are radio or not, today, what
people really here is God revealing his plan to his people,
to the people of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
Yeah, so anyways, some people believe that, and including this woman.

Speaker 19 (01:28:26):
I've been on rapture talk for like the past an hour.
Are we not scared to think that if the if
the rapture is happening, I mean, tell me have a
few with my kids.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Which is true, if it was happening, which of course
it isn't. Do we have any hope in the world
that there are people like that? I mean, if there
are enough people like that, we're done for, aren't we? Anyway?

Speaker 8 (01:28:53):
Was she implying that either she was getting raptured and
her kids weren't, or they were and she wasn't exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
They were all going to the same place together, weren't there.
Everyone knows that when the rapture comes. Gail Royce she
was one of the believers. She's been on TikTok, of
course she has. And she was showing the audience the
deed that she had given away her home and car
because the rapture was coming. So the problem now is
and you've got to go down the super religious hole
on social media. The deal at the moment is they're

(01:29:19):
saying that God delayed the rapture until that's right, the
Epstein files are released. You want to go get raptured
until you know what really happened on the island, do
you You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
You've give me a headache now, but of course I
can't take anything to make it go away.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
No you can't. Well, you're not pregnant, so you might
be all right, So maybe pop a couple and see
what happens to you. Back tomorrow morning from sex Server
always every days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
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