Full Show Podcast: 26 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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commercial and rural news togs he.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Complaining sanctions on benefits arrive. We've got a new rugby
competition that left me asking why do we need yet
more rugby? Nicola Willis is in for the Prime Minister.
The lads in the sport in the commentary boats are
Richard Arnold, Steve Price. They ad flare and polish from
off shore Parsky. Welcome to the week. Seven past six
is the ground jinxt It's got to be the only

(00:32):
explanation Saturday. Auckland FC unable to lose all season, lose
when it counts. What sort of reflection do we have
of their inaugural escapades if they hadn't been so dominant
for the whole year. I think if they'd been sort
of it, they'd scraped home for the plate, it might
have been different, but they didn't. They won by a mile.
Second trick was to finish it off in the playoffs.
Of course, as it turns out they didn't even make

(00:52):
the final. I'm not sure complaining about the referee is
the way you conduct yourself. I mean, yes, the referee
and left a bit to be desired, and yes the
complaint was in fact accurate, but with dignity. And besides,
it was only one goal in the long conversation of
what might have been is pointless, so it's a disappointment.
Here's the real question. Was Melbourne aside for the occasion
when it counts, when it's do or die, they turned

(01:14):
up Auckland to learn that particular skill, and then last
night on the same ground, in wet conditions that I
was pretty sure wasn't forecast, we get the Mighty Warriors
with the chance to vanquish what was a shocking start
of the season. Oh how long ago, it seems, based
on nothing, we wandered out into Las Vegas and we
got humiliated. What a worldwigh that all appears. Until last night,
of course, when we were reminded, as if we needed reminding,

(01:38):
that that part of a winning season is about learning
and proving. And yet we didn't. They beat us again,
not as badly, but when the opportunity presented itself, when
the Bulldogs got beaten as they did last week, when
the gap was there for two points to put us
on top of the table. We couldn't wouldn't take it.
Shall we blame those missing for origin? No, I don't
think so. That's like complaining about the refereeing up soide.

(02:00):
We are still there. Of course, the Raiders go up,
but they played an extra game. They never forget that.
No real harm has actually been done. But we just
didn't seize the day. And that is what top level
success is all about. Owning it when you can, grabbing
it when you have to, being merciless and consistently merciless
when the opportunity arises. Two chances to missus, but at
least for one side, this is still very much potentially

(02:23):
our years.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Wow news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
But teake your Staff's being discussed in Britain as we speak,
the suggestions the governor are about to lift the cap
on two child benefits.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It's not a silver bullet. It's not going to alleviate
the levels of child poverty. There is a number of factors,
people's wages not increasing, the employment being insecure, their cost
of living crisis that we've faced.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
The PM has allegedly told to measure read to go
find the seven billion dollars it would cost. The Tories
not into it.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Nigel Charrage and care Starmer seeing things to please people.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
They're not doing what is right.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I am saying what is the right thing to do.

Speaker 6 (03:04):
It may not be popular, but is absolutely the right
thing to do.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Are the labor risk moves. They've renationalized a chunk of
the railway service.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
We're going to require really high standards of those regional
operators around punctuality, reducing the level of cancelations, improving the
passenger experience.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Unfortunately, the first Southwestern service, the five thirty six from
Working to Waterloo, was a replacement bus to the war.
Where Russia doesn't seem that gripped by the idea of
a ceasefire or piece talks. Zelensky not happy.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
This cannot be ignored. Silence of America, silence of others
around the world only encourages putin. The world knows all
the weaknesses of the Russian economy. The war can be stopped,
but only through the necessary force of pressure on Russia.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Meantimes outside couple of things fresh from US meme dinner,
which I'll get to later. The Trumpsters at West Point I.

Speaker 7 (03:53):
Was investigated more than the great Late Alphonse Capon. Alphonse
Capon was a it was a very hardened criminal.

Speaker 8 (04:03):
I went through.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
More investigations than Alphonse Capone.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
And now I'm talking to you as president.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And the marking five years since George Floyd's death.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
We are not decarred.

Speaker 9 (04:14):
We are recommitted.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
So do whatever you're gonna do with the Department of Justice.

Speaker 9 (04:19):
We will not.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Turn back justice for John Floyd.

Speaker 10 (04:23):
Say his name.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Finally, As the European summer unfolds, are warning from the
authorities in Bruges, don't nick the cobblestones. About seventy cobblestones
disappear each month, even more during the peak season. Costs
about a couple of hundred euros per square meter to
replace them. Politicians have said it causes tripping hazards, it's
a safety issue the local stage. It's just by the annoying.
As news of the world in ninety are Britain's economy.

(04:47):
I have got some very good news from Britain, unexpected
to momentum and that the economy retail sales up one
point two percent in April, and the consumer confidence is
on the rise as well, and sterling has lifted against
the US dollar. So I think they'll take that because
there's a poll out this morning which is not good
news for the PM. But more late at twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
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Speaker 2 (05:13):
We got the RB later on this week for US,
but Japan their core inflation they thought three point four
came in at three point five. So that whole creeping, creeping,
creeping discussion continues around the will fifteen past six Jmi
Well for Andrew Keller. Help welcome back. It's good to
be back, Mike always retail spending. Will talk about shortly,

(05:34):
but tied in with that as jobs. Do I see
some life in the jobs? Mike? Can I be slightly
optimistic or not?

Speaker 11 (05:40):
Well, you're an optimistic guy, Mike, So I think there's
a there's a you know, there's ways of looking at this.
The more conservative approach is stabilization. But yeah, now that
the excitement of the budgets and the rearview miss rearview mirror,
we can sort of continue the postgame analysis that of
course of the week. But there was data released on
Friday which gives a signals about the sort of state

(06:01):
of the nation. One of them was this Benz Seek
Employment Report. Now, now, just in talking about that budget, Mike,
within within in addition to the budget itself, you've got treasuries, budgets,
economic and fiscal update. There's one hundred and sixty one
pages of joy in there, and lots of forecasts. So
we could spend the next ten to fifteen minutes talking

(06:22):
about this. But the economic croverage is now forecast to
be slower than the half year update, and in the forecast,
unemployment is slated to peak at five point four percent
in the June quarter, then itses gradually over ensuing years
to four point three percent.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
So we're right in the Nader. We're right in the
low point of employment right now, Mike.

Speaker 11 (06:43):
According to that, So the BNZ Seek report it has
the title Signs of Stabilization. So job has increased one
point one percent in April. That is the second consecutive
month that they have increased. I think a conservative core, Mike,
it would be too.

Speaker 8 (06:58):
Early to call the bounce.

Speaker 11 (07:00):
But what you can say is the employment market doesn't
seem to be getting.

Speaker 8 (07:05):
Worse where so we are.

Speaker 11 (07:07):
Though, look if I look at the start, they might
coming off a very low base. So job ads are
still nine point six percent below levels from a year ago,
and if you look back to twenty twenty two, we
are still forty eight percent below the number of job
ads there. And there's also a shift you can see
within the Darta mark. There's a shift from full time
work to part time work, you.

Speaker 8 (07:26):
Can see in the jobs.

Speaker 11 (07:27):
And that's what people do when when the employment market
starts to get a little bit tighty and move people
to part time.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, optimism question number two better spending.

Speaker 8 (07:35):
Yeah, more money, more money.

Speaker 11 (07:37):
Sotail retails down the dumps, isn't it along with HOSPO
and the anecdotal evidence and company evidence seems to reinforce.

Speaker 8 (07:44):
The green shoots in these areas are hard to find.

Speaker 11 (07:46):
So yes, it was a little surprising in a good
sense to see better than expected retail trade.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
Numbers released on Friday by statsn's Z so these are
quarterly numbers.

Speaker 11 (07:56):
This adds to the picture the millieure that we get
from the month the electronic card transaction data. Retail trade
volumes lifted zero point eight percent quarter on quarter, stronger
than the local economists had expected, so consensus there looking
at little or no move. The previous quarter was also
revised up, albeit very small, from zero.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
Point nine percent to one percent.

Speaker 11 (08:17):
Now, look, retail trade, it isn't the biggest contributor to GDP.
I think it's less than ten percent, but this number
is moving in the right direction. Yearly retail trade volumes
increased by zero point seven percent. Also might seems to
be a relatively broad based across sectors and regions. So
ten out of fifteen categories have seen increases in volumes.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Just a wee damp.

Speaker 11 (08:38):
I don't mean to rain on the parade, but core
retail was only up zero point four percent, which is
not exactly frothy, but there are some there's some pockets
of light in the discretionary spending clothing, footwear, specialized food.

Speaker 8 (08:51):
And we keep saying it might. We keep saying that.

Speaker 11 (08:53):
Effect of lower mortgage rates slowly feeding where through their
way through the New Zealand households should provide support for
spending over the second half of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
But we're waiting. We're just waiting for that to show
up in the data.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Speaking of spending from the budget, would you if you
can write it off? Is this where we're heading with us? Sorry,
in what sense of the investment boost.

Speaker 8 (09:15):
The investment boost. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (09:16):
Look, so I was in Sydney last week, got back
Friday night and catching up on the budget over the weekend.
This investment boost seems to be the seems to be
the key talking point, doesn't it. Lots of comments over
the weekend. I just want to make a couple of
very quick comments, Mike. The cost to the government is
in the form of lower tax revenue. The government doesn't
actually pay out anything and that seems to be a

(09:37):
little bit of a misconception. Scope is very wide, captures
many many areas of spend no cap But Mike, remember
if a business is able to claim a big depreciation
expense spence, what have they done. They have invested a
lot of money and that is beneficial to the local economy.
Should be a talent to companies looking to commit capital expenditure.

Speaker 8 (09:58):
It should improve confidence. That is critical.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Fingers cross numbers please.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
The Dow Jones fell two hundred fifty six points.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
Trump more sort of tariff dramas there so took a
bit of the window of the sales of the market
forty one thousand, six hundred and three down point six
percent than as it was also down point and as
it was down one percent actually eighty thousand, seven hundred
and thirty seven, and the S and P five hundred
down points sixty seven of a percent, the forty one
hundred down twenty one eighty seven one seven a quarter

(10:26):
percent fall. The Nikke just under gained half percent actually
point four seven one hundred and seventy five points thirty
seven thousand, one hundred and sixty the Shanghai composite down
just under one percent.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
The ASX two hundred gain.

Speaker 11 (10:39):
To twelve points on Friday up fifteen point one five
percent eight three six oh the n SEX fifty down
sixty six points on Friday twelve.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Thousand, five hundred and ninety six.

Speaker 11 (10:48):
One Kimi dollar will get your point five nine seven
three against the US point nine one seven seven ossie
point five to sixty two against the Euro point four
four oh six pounds eighty five one out. Japanese end
gold is still strong three thousand, three hundred and fifty
seven dollars and fifty one cents, and break crude sixty
four dollars and seventy eight cent.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Good have you back? Andrew kellaher Joemo Wealth, Dartco dot
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average price forty two, eight hundred and fifty seven dollars
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(11:30):
one hundred thousand dollars six twenty one. The news Talk said, be.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
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Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, the Trump meme dinner was the weirdest thing, and
I'll come back to that in a moment. Some of
the stuff that's been done over the weekend. He cleared
the Nippon Steel, so the US Nippon Steel thing. The
Japanese are going to pile billions into the US economy,
So he's finally ticked that box. Biden and him agreed
for a while there that it wasn't a goer, but
it is now. The Harvard thing is major, so they've

(12:09):
gone to court and won as they were always going to,
but it sort of hasn't solved the ongoing frightening international
students bit that hasn't been solved. He's called for fifty
percent tariffs on the EU over the weekend and quote
unquote not looking for a deal. I think most people
realize this is a negotiating tactic. But he's gone after
fifty percent, so we'll see how that unfolds. Is the

(12:29):
European week and then his big beautiful bill. It's got
past the House, it goes to the Senate. Johnson, who's
a Republican, says there are enough Republican senators to quote
stop the process until the President gets serious about a
spending reduction and reducing the deficit. So there's a lot
of water to go under that bridge. More shortly with
Richard Arnold six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
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(13:17):
for the franchise, biggest opening weekend, biggest domestic box office take,
currently grossed one hundred and fifty three million. Is that good? Yes,
it is, because it only cost fifty million to make Gma.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
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Speaker 12 (13:29):
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I had a premonition that started at all.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I saw what death was about to do.

Speaker 13 (13:48):
I saved a lot of lives that night, the lives
that were never meant to be saved.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Death doesn't like it when you mess with his plants.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It all started with Grandma.

Speaker 14 (14:00):
Jack is coming for us because we were never supposed
to exist.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
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Speaker 2 (14:08):
Will it pass you by?

Speaker 8 (14:10):
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Speaker 2 (14:12):
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They got four of the five movies. In a twist,
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wasn't actually a stunt. The theater just collapsed and one
person was taken to hospital and the others too nervous
now to leave the house. Apparently news for you, And

(14:35):
a couple of moments that the prime Minister's got a cold,
so he's not turning up today. But the Finance Minister
fortunately doesn't have a cold.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
So is Mike Hosgame in stateful, engaging and vitally the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Avida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News,
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Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, the Paul I alluded to obviously Rod tomorrow, but
you guv came out over the weekend. Sixty nine percent
of people now I think that Starmer is a problem.
A Starmer has delivered key wins for the UK, So
why is he so unpopular? Not only generally but even
with labor voters fifty percent don't like them seventeen point
increase since mid April. A favorable view has gone from

(15:18):
sixty two to forty five in the period of a month.
So he's got all sorts of problems. Richard Arnold Shortley
twenty three to seven. Let's just bring it back home.
We've got more change coming to Auckland City's density rules.
In a nutshell, there's going to be a lot more
of it density. There is fight limits for buildings have
been increased, et cetera. Now Scott Cornwill follows these things.
He's with Greater Auckland, as with the Scott Morning to you,

(15:39):
Good morning. I do worry about this sort of broad subject,
one because we're a national program and I don't want
to bore the rest of the country. But two also
even for people in Auckland. I mean that it's such
a dysfunctional mess these days. You can have meetings till
you're blue in the face. Do you think any of
this is ever going to happen?

Speaker 13 (15:57):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty disappointing how long this taking.
I mean, this started off in twenty twenty. It was
meant to come into effect sort of middle of twenty
twenty three. We're now only just now talking about doing
some more stuff two years later. Raally frustrated by how
long this is all taking.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And what I know is reading a very good piece
over the weekend somewhere. It was on walk with in
that general area which is north of Aalkland, which of
course is booming. And the reason it's booming, Scott is
because people like to live in areas like that, which
is not density. It's not downtown because no one wants
to be downtown. I mean, and that is a problem
in a nutshell, isn't it?

Speaker 13 (16:36):
I disagree that people don't want to be downtown. I mean,
you know, there's about forty thousand people who live in
the city center, and we reckon that if you you know,
let people build more homes and these kind of places,
you know, not force people, you know, just let people,
you know, make choices in their own lives that they'll
take up on these choices. And I think we've been
saying that in Organs the last few years.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
And so that's the up. It's an apartment and that's
the sort of life, life style that you're looking to
see in the future.

Speaker 13 (17:03):
Yeah, lifestyle is when I think about it. But you know,
a house is a house, right, it's there. You know,
nice to have a backyard, but you know, if you've
got a nice little park nearby something like that, it's
not actually radically different lifestyle. Do you mean that people
are living like close to train stations, close to infrastructure
that they like, and they're able to get to work easier,

(17:23):
you know, less congestion, all those sort of a lot
of the things.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, exactly. So that sounds like a like a cool idea.
It's just hasn't sort of translated into the real world yet.
Where are all these railway stations. So you're telling me
that when the CRL's finished and you can live next
to the CRL, you pop on your train, you pop
downtown a couple of blocks, you go for your shop,
you eat out, and it's all utopia.

Speaker 13 (17:45):
I mean not utopia. They'll sill be problems in the world,
but I think you know, for a lot of people,
that will make their life a lot easier. And you know,
when we think about the fact that you know, over
the last thirty years, we actually haven't kept up the
supply of housing to demand. You know, basically, you know,
laws is a plant of art and tell us that, well,
you don't make enough houses, the price is going to rise.

(18:06):
And so we need to think about where we can
put houses in a way that integrates with infrastructure. And
so for us, you know, it's just where if we've
spent all this time building out, and you know, we
probably need to do more of that, but we also
need to do the up piece to really make sure
that we can get board housing affordabilities everyone.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
All right, well, let's bring you back and see when
it happens. If anybody makes a decision. Scott appreciated it.
Scott cable. Who's with Greater Auckland this morning, just briefly
twenty minutes away from seven, I'll tell to the Walkworth piece.
So here's the thing. So Walkworth is north of Auckland.
Don't even get me started on the motorway. I didn't
realize we've been stitched up on this motorway, the motorway
north of Auckland, which is the brand new piece of motorway.

(18:44):
There's a place called Johnson's Hill. Out the other side
of Johnson's Hill is the brand new motorway that was
opened about a year or so back. Revolutionary changed everything.
It's just absolutely fantastic standing by for one hundred and
ten kilometers. Now turns out, as of today that one
hundred and ten kilometers has arrived. You can go one
hundred and ten killumies. No, but wait, not on the
new bit, just on a very very small section of

(19:06):
the old bit, which hasn't changed at all. So you
can now go faster on the old bit, but you
can't go on the new bit because they're still thinking
about the new bit. Why do we need another new bit?

Speaker 15 (19:15):
So then the new bit now will be the old bit,
and then that can go up maybe.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
See normally that would just be stupid. But the way
the Sissy's right, we're trying to get into the lodge
actually quite a good idea. So that just gives you
an indication as to just how dysfunctional we are. Anyway,
Where was I with that? Yes, so I'm reading about
the north of Auckland walk with the place is booming.
It's absolutely booming. And yet what's the problem. The problem
is the planners didn't see it coming for reasons best

(19:40):
known to themselves. We happen to buy up there seven
years ago. And one of the reasons we bought up
there seven years ago, we thought this place is going
to boom. It's going to be fantastic. Now if we
could see it, and we're not that bright, how come
they couldn't see it? And how come now the water
doesn't work and everyone's taken by surprise when you can
see it coming, it's coming right. Maybe more on that
later eighteen to two the.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
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Speaker 2 (20:09):
He caught us cold. Over the weekend, Chris Luxon was
busy talking about the retirement age and how it's a
no brainer, and we've got to increase it. It's too
expensive and it's going to take it to the election,
which I find interesting. So more on that after seven o'clock.
But a note over the weekend. Denmark voted and indeed
eighty one twenty one, so cross party supporters, I'm assuming,
and so it will apply. It goes to seventy, so

(20:31):
that will apply to people born after Decembath thirty one,
nineteen seventy. The current age is sixty seven, so most
of the world's already above sixty five. We're a bit
of an outlier. But the retirement debates alive and well,
and we're going to have more of that after seven
six to forty five.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
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Speaker 7 (20:48):
Business Richard, I I'm morning to you back online morning Mane.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You're fantastic. So the year raids is no peace talks,
no cease, fine, no, nothing.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
That's right from Washington and Stoney silent to me. The
latest Russian assault on Ukraine coming as the Trump team
seems to have backed away from its core for a
thirty day seas fire. We don't hear them talking about
that anymore. Trump himself has openly speculated that the US
could remove itself entirely from any military support for Ukraine
as these body battles go on, long after President Trump

(21:19):
insisted repeatedly during his campaign that yeah, he could end
this war within twenty four hours. He said that over
and again. The latest aerial assault by Russia's being described
as the biggest since the Russian invasion began. More than
thirty Ukrainian cities were targeted by drones and missiles. Three
hundred and sixty seven Russian drones and missiles were fired.
This includes fifty six cruise missiles and four guided their missiles.

(21:41):
Along with the drones. Most were shot down or otherwise
neutralized by the Ukrainians who were still working with Western
defense systems. Still, twelve people have been killed, including three children,
in the northern region of Zatimir. Now, this follows the
recent prisoner exchange that we've been seeing one thousand prisoners
from each side allowed to go free with Washington shifting policies, though,

(22:02):
the EU and Britain have unveiled a new round of sanctions,
this time targeting what's called the Russian shadow Fleet, which
has been used to transport Russian oil exports. When it
comes to any further American sanctions on Moscow, well, the
time team sitting on the sidelines, with Secretary of State
Rubio saying that sanctions are counterproductive as peace talks are
being pressed, but little stone of Putin being too interested

(22:24):
in any peace talks. And Ukraine now is reported to
have made a bold attempt to kill Putin by targeting
him with drones looking at his military helicopter while he
was visiting the Kurk region the other day. So the
Russian defense has prevented that, but that was the intention.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
It seems interesting. And then is this an inside job?
This New Orleans thing? I mean, how many people only
knew what was going on? There's a few.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
It's not quite the scale of the Great Escape, the
Second World War saga with Steve McQueen and co. But
it's getting bigger and bigger. Seven people now have been
arrested over the New Orleans jail break. But over a
week ago this happened, ten prisoners got out, five still
on the The latest arrest come from those alleged to
have helped. That includes an inmate named Trayvon Williams who
was said to have supplied a blanket to help these

(23:08):
escapees get over the jails, raise a wire fence topping.
He's also said to have gone into their cell for
about thirty minutes while they made the getaway, after shutting
off water to the toilet and tunneling their way out.
William says he doesn't remember while he was in the
escapees cell, and he says he asked for help to
turn off the water to the toilet because it was

(23:29):
claud Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Sure.

Speaker 7 (23:31):
Meantime, others have been charged as accomplices after the prisoner's escaped,
including one who supplied the fleeing inmates with the cash
through a mobile phone app. So there's some high tech here, allegedly,
and those charged as helpers could face prison terms themselves
of up to five years.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Mate, all right, I'll catch you on Wednesday. Appreciate it.
Richard on stateside say to this meme dinner, so this
is the Trump mean coin And he said a couple
of bit And I still ask the question. And this
is applicable to the plane as well as the meme
dinner and a bunch of other activities. I mean, where's
the law in this? So anyway, he's got this meme coin,
and a meme coin's connected to nothing, of course, it's

(24:08):
just a thing that you might want to pay him
some money for. And he said, top wallet holders are
going to have dinner, special dinner, most exclusive thing in
the world. So it happened on Friday. They spent one
hundred for these suckers who bought this meme coin spent
one hundred and forty eight million dollars. So they went
to his golf club in Virginia, black tie gala, two

(24:32):
hundred and twenty of them. He was there for twenty
three minutes, so he turns up for twenty three minutes.
Nicholas Pintot was there, and Nicholas didn't have the best
time because Nicholas doesn't drink, and the only drink's on
off a word Trump wine, and if you didn't drink
wine or didn't drink there was nothing else apart from
water in his glass only got filled once, so the

(24:53):
service was crap. Trump was only there for twenty three minutes.
He didn't speak to anyone apart from a crowd where
he just reworked a lot of crypto talk and then
he left.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
So he's there for about twenty minutes longer than you
would have.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Been exactly.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
So, And man was that?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And where's all the money gone? Other matters in America,
By the way, the Congress is blocking California. California want
to buy banned petrol cars. Congress is now stepping into
stop that, which is encouraging. Meantime, the Supreme Court for
important ruling on Friday. So much going on in that

(25:31):
part of the world. So this allows Trump the president,
not to sack the FED governor, which he wants to do,
but he can sack seemingly Fed Reserve board members. So
he can sack the board members, but he can't sack
the governor. So that's from Scotus as of Friday. If

(25:54):
you're following all of this, this crazy world. Ten minutes
away from seven the Mike.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Hosting Great Best with a Vita Retirement, Communities News, Togs
dead been.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Like, I want to retire up there soon. Please don't
mention the name of the place. We camp at Martin's
Bay have done for fourteen years. Muttain Bay is beautiful.
Our walk with Snells Maticana best kept secret. Well it's
not really a secret anymore. That's part of the problem.
Won't be long before. It's one hundred and ten the
whole way. Really, I wish that were true when they announced.
So how long ago do they announce that? Whle little
Simmy and Brown Minister of Transport, Oh, it's going to
be one hundred and ten, You think when sim in

(26:24):
in my lifetime, idiots are still trying to figure out
what speed to slow down to in the tunnel. I
know it's done.

Speaker 8 (26:29):
Don't even get me start.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
By the way, Canada as a result of this whole
trade business I mentioned Trump and Europe fifty percent. He's
not even looking for a deal allegedly anyway. So the
forecasts over the weekend in Canada. So they've got major issues.
But a lot of their business, of course, goes into
the United States early stages of recession, there forecasting unemployment
to rise the exports to fall. The economists surveyed by

(26:53):
Bloomberg the output's going to shrink. They think one percent
for the second court, zero point one for the third court.
Exports will drop seven and a half percent on an
annualized basis in the current quarter. They expect inflation to
run above the Central Bank's target at two point one
percent for the third quarter two point two for the fourth.
So they got major problems. They've got themselves a new

(27:14):
prime minister who will understand all of those figures intricately.
But what he does about it is the clue, of course,
five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
While the ins and the ouse, it's the fears with
business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Now, this is where the travel comes in, because of
course it's they're unfolding into the European or Northern hemisphere
if you like. Summer and travel in the States is
proving to be really problematic. This is a company called Syrium.
They've looked at bookings between jen and early May, as
in you now, so this is for travel in June,
July and August their summer. It's down ten percent. And

(27:51):
that's from major US airports to European destination, so Americans
are not traveling. Flight's book from Europe into the US
are down twelve percent because it's that chilling effect is real.
Are you going to get frisked at the border? Are
they going to check your phone? Have you ever said
anything on social media you might regret about Trump? Whatever?
For Asia, bookings are up. Increase plights to Hong Kong

(28:12):
and Tokyo elsewhere, though down, domestic travel in the US
is down five percent. That's flying. However, the Deloitte twenty
twenty five Travels Survey, which is a different set of numbers,
shows Americans still plan to travel this summer. Data show
to five percent increase and leisure trips those trips a
value significantly chief and these are people just jumping in
their car and going from one place to another. If
you are going internationally. There was yet another piece of

(28:35):
research out over the weekend. Where would you go if
you're American? Top ten international destination for US travelers? Number
ten Cape Karna which is in the Dominican Republic, which
is close by Venice, Barcelona, put to Kana, which is
once again in the Dominican Republic. Carbo. It's always carbo,
isn't it? Where are you going to gain a carbo? Rome?

(28:58):
London is three, Paris is two, Cancun, Mexico number one,
just down the road. You're helping your car and not
the go down the cancuon. Now another sanction is coming
for your benefits if you haven't followed this one. So
we had the light system right, and you don't want
to be on a red you've got green, orange, red,
reds bad. Now we're going to take some of your
benefit money if you're not behaving yourself, and we're going

(29:19):
to wack it on a card. And that card means
it's not a financial punishment. You still get the same
amount of money, but the money on the card, which
is half your benefit, you can only use at certain outlets,
so you can forget the bathing and the booze. In
other words, so what's this designed to achieve? Is this
just bashing people over there for no particular reason. We'll
talk to Louise Upstin about that after the News, which

(29:41):
is next. There's Monday monding on the My Costing Breakfast
here at News Talk, Sad.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
News, opinion and everything in between. The mic Costing Breakfast
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Speaker 2 (29:56):
Seven past seven. More benefit sanctions coming today for those
not meeting their require It's payment cards being introduced. They
can only be used to approve retailers. Minister Social Development
and Employment Louise Upstein back with us. Good morning, Good
morning to you, Mike. So today's new sanctions was this
always part of the bigot picture or has this come
out of leftish field.

Speaker 16 (30:15):
No, this was one of the plans we had coming
into the campaign to have additional non financial sanctions and
to make sure that those on welfare fulfill their obligations.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
What do you gain by doing this, Well, we ensure.

Speaker 16 (30:31):
That those who are receiving welfare are taking the steps
they need to to help themselves find a job, and
that there's clear consequences when they don't.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Right, is this just job the people looking for jobs
or is this welfare generally? And if it's just welfare generally,
what will they have not done to get this particular sanction.

Speaker 16 (30:52):
Well, we've got a target to reduce the number of
people on job seeker benefits, so I do focus on
job seekers first, but it does apply more broadly. And
these are really common sense things that help people find
a job. Okay, turn up to MSD, turn up to
a job interview, have a CV, take a job if
it's offered.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Is it a punishment, I mean you're still getting the
same amount of money, it's just you can't go spend
it on booze, on vaping.

Speaker 16 (31:18):
I mean it's a different it's a different type of
punishment and it's non financial. And look, at the end
of the day, we want more people to be taking
the steps they need to to find a job. So
actually they're practical and common sense, and we want to
see fewer people on welfare and more people in work.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Are you wandering into people's personal rights at this particular
point in time if they're not doing you know, you're
saying you can't go here, you can't shop there, you start.
It's a fairly delicate ground, aren't you.

Speaker 16 (31:49):
No, definitely not.

Speaker 13 (31:50):
They have a choice.

Speaker 16 (31:51):
They receive welfare from other taxpayers, so they have obligations
to take certain steps. So absolutely I reject that this
is trampling on their rights. If they don't want to
have these consequences, all they have to do is comply
with their obligations.

Speaker 13 (32:09):
It's pretty simple.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
How many people on the light system and of those people,
how many people do you think will end up on
this sort of particular punishment.

Speaker 16 (32:18):
Well, in terms of the traffic light system, the great
news is that ninety eight percent are on green and
only one point two are in red, So less than
four thousand people are in red, which means they face consequences.

Speaker 12 (32:33):
That's a very small number.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Whacking them again. Is that going to help you, reckon
or are they just beyond help?

Speaker 16 (32:40):
Well, we just want them to take things, take the
steps that we believe will help them get closer towards
a job. So they're simple, they're practical and they will
help themselves if they take these steps.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Brush attat Luiz Almston, Minister for Social Development and Employment,
ten minutes past seven past game you dart around mental health.
Past two years an extra fifteen hundred kit under fourteen
have been added to our weightless medental surgery. Now that's
nearly three thousand have been waiting more than one hundred
and twenty days. Apparently. Robin Wyman's at the New Zealand
Dental Association and as with us, Robin morning to you,

(33:11):
morning mite. Is the school system not working?

Speaker 17 (33:16):
The school or what used to be called the school
edital service, the community oral health service is in some difficulty.
It is short of therapists, that's dental therapists and oral
health therapists. They're the key clinician you need to deliver
that service and so with the work force shortage, they
are very behind in terms of seeing our pre and

(33:38):
primary school children.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Is this a geography problem. There are certain areas we
can point to and know that this is where the
issues are.

Speaker 17 (33:46):
It is a nationwide problem, but there are pockets where
the numbers have been very very behind. To Auckland and
Waikato we know from the data are more behind than many.
But actually it's a nationwide problem really.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
And I emphasize the word surgery, but what is it
you're getting done for surgery apart from extraction.

Speaker 17 (34:04):
So young children who would be going to hospitals or
theaters across the country to have their teeth attended to,
a lot of the work would be dental extractions because
the teeth are past the point where we can repair them.
But we also do a lot of fillings, a lot
of repairing those teeth so we can hold onto them,
and they are important to hang on to where we
can because they help the developing permanent teeth.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Strikes me as one of those things that you can
potentially address to it agree if you got hold of
the parents and we started off doing it at home.
So in other words, you know, diet you may or
may not get ahead on, but dentistry is sort of
easily sold to the kid brushes their teeth on a
regular basis.

Speaker 17 (34:42):
Isn't it no doubt that rutbrushing teeth with a fluoridated
toothpaste twice a day, that's our absolute recommendation from the
association is an important part of this. And so yes,
early contact with parents and early understanding of what needs
to be done to look after dental health is a
very important part of preventing this disease.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Is that being done clearly?

Speaker 8 (35:03):
Not?

Speaker 17 (35:03):
Obviously it's so difficult. We have not just the therapist
delivering that service. Plunket and the early childhood providers do
provide that level of support and help to our young children,
but with workforce shortages, absolutely those contacts are not as
frequent as they should be.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Is anyone fixing this? Dentistry has always been a problem,
hasn't it?

Speaker 8 (35:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (35:27):
This is slightly different to the wider dentustry issues that
we talk about because this is the publicly funded part
of the service, and both in the community oral health
service and then what we're doing in the hospitals. There
is some glimmer of understanding in the Health New Zealand
workforce plans. So if you look at the twenty twenty
three and twenty twenty four plans. They do talk about

(35:48):
the shortage they have a viral health therapists. It's around
about twenty percent in the two thousand and three plan,
twenty three plan. The problem with this it's not joined up, Mike.
They have Health New Zealand saying they have shortages, but
you've got to then be working across into the tertiary
education sector with them being supported with additional funding and

(36:09):
a joined up plan. So we actually trained more therapists
and more dentists, so.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's not coordinated. Who would have thought that. Appreciate it?
Robin Robin Wyam in New Zealand Dental Association, thirteen minutes
past seven, Husky I Detective. So many of our own problems, Mike,
Five of us been in the US Miami for the
last three weeks. We could not get over how easy
it was entering and leaving the states, no issues whatsoever.
It's a good point, Bruce, ninety nine point nine nine
nine nine nine percent of people will go in and

(36:35):
out of the States these days with no problems whatsoever.
But it's the chilling effect that's having, the cancelation of
the tickets and people not going. Mike, well done, Liam Lawson,
It was just a matter of time. Absolutely, he did
very well. If you missed it, he started ninth, finished eighth.
But the key was the team's strategy. They sacrificed him
to a degree to get had your up the field.

(36:56):
I won't explain it now, but we'll talk about it later,
but it was a very clever strategy. He played his part,
had you played their part. As a team they scored
really well. So it's been a fantastic time in Monaco.
Overnight fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
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Speaker 2 (37:15):
B Nikola Willison for the Prime Minister this morning, shortly
seventeen past seven. New idea for rugby. We've got a
Club Rugby World Cup. As of twenty twenty eight, sixteen
teams involved, eight from the Northern Hemisphere, eight from Super
Rugby in Japan. Andrew Hawr is the CEO of the
Auckland Blues and as with us, Andrew, morning to you,
good morning, how are you mine? Very well? Indeed, how
long have this been bubbling?

Speaker 12 (37:35):
Oh for a number of years actually during COVID was
first mooted and discussed and started between the PCR and
a couple of clubs here and yeah.

Speaker 13 (37:49):
The breaque bureau cotic wheels are ready to take.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
We're at a time to turn.

Speaker 10 (37:53):
But we're excited that announcement. We haven't don't know all
the details that's been agreed.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But it's a thing.

Speaker 12 (38:01):
It is happening from their perspective that they come to
an agreement that from our understanding. So when we last
heard it was moving in a positive direction.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
When are we playing it in this world of rugby?
Which particular window were we finding to pop in another tournament?

Speaker 10 (38:20):
We see where this time is when the World Cups
on in to seventeen, there are sorry to twenty seven,
there's an extended break after that, and that will give
us that window that's available. Our windows are fixed, so
that's been part of the ongoing discussion is when to
fit that in. So you'll have to amend our competition

(38:41):
slightly and the discussions on how that will look and
then then we'll go through to this World Championship, which
will be great and it's something that fans have been
asking for. I think when we had our success at
last year, straight away to lose we're asking wanting to
their fans were wanting to have this fixture, so something

(39:03):
that people have been asking for for a long time, Mike,
and we're extremely excited by it.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
What's the quality of the competition as you would assess
it this Monday.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
Morning, our current competition.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, as in like the best side would be a
mile better than the worst side, or it would be
a tight competition, or anyone could win it, or you
go into it knowing there will be two sides that'll
make the fine laud of matter.

Speaker 6 (39:28):
Ye, it'll be extremely close.

Speaker 12 (39:29):
I think if you look even though at our competition
with the changes that are being made now, I think
there's there's four teams vying for next week for near
on one spot and going into the fine round. So
now Europe, if they take the best of the European clubs,
there is very little between to lose on a Lenster
for example.

Speaker 10 (39:50):
So it'll be eagerly con tested.

Speaker 12 (39:52):
And I think one of the issues, or one of
the exciting parts, is different brands of rugby playing one another,
and not only that, actually we don't know how far
one is away from the other, and this will give
a great benchmarking to see how we're going internationally, which
is great. And the old thing is that commercially it
brings so many opportunities. We're in a global market and

(40:14):
we need to be thinking about global revenues.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Twenty twenty eight, here we coome Andrew Precat, Andrew Haw
who's the blue CEO. What what's that oneapecific thing about?
I mean, what's going on there? So one week they
will several times this season while they're fantastic, they win,
they beat, and then they turn up and get done
like that? What's that? How do you explain it?

Speaker 8 (40:32):
Well, it's the chief.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
So no more, let's get back to this retirement business
and whether this is going to become a thing next year.
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(41:55):
Dutton right in Australia, it is suggested will never truly know,
but it is suggested lost election because of his new
clear issue and work from home policies. Now I personally
think he lost because they ran a hopeless campaign, But
it is more than possible that he floated a couple
of ideas that the voter simply would not stomach. And
I'm wondering Christopher Luxen is heading in a similar direction

(42:16):
here with the superannuation ideas. Nuclear makes sense. You can
argue that nuclear makes sense working from home headed his productivity,
you can argue cogently about that as well. But the
voter's always right, and being a voter beats logic sometimes
will the voter be right here on superannuation? Are there
enough New Zealanders who have landed on the very simple
truth that sixty five as a pension age is no

(42:37):
longer sensible nor affordable. It's going to be twenty eight
billion dollars a year before you know, twenty eight billion
dollars a year and growing, which seems worse now because
we're broke, of course, but even in the best of times,
it's a stunning amount of money. National are going to
take it to the vote next year. They may be
saved from themselves, of course by New Zealand. First of
they're still in the mix because that'll be a bottom
line for them, I'm imagining. But we reach the entre

(43:00):
point where logic and emotion collide. Super For many of
us untouchable, it's a lifetime's worth of work. I paid
my taxes, even though that line isn't actually real. I mean,
we spent your taxes years ago and then borrowed a
bit more to keep the lights on. Sixty five is
the new fifty and post COVID old older workers have
never been in more demand. The days of being out

(43:20):
to pasture are increasingly gone. Sixty five is not old.
Imagine a day where you enter the workforce knowing you
need to take care of yourself because the rules have changed.
I mean, yes, if you strike trouble, the pigion is
a welfare payment, not an entitlement. But we either have
to change the narrative and mindset from entitlement to welfare,
or we need to up the age. Even in upping

(43:41):
the age over time, even giving years worth of notice,
it's still a very, very big core Politically. It underlines
our desire for free stuff, basically or perceived free stuff.
Once you set a precedent with money, it is fantastically
hard to undo. But Luxon apparently is super again to
give it a crack, he calls it a no brainer.
First clue, there aren't many who think it's a no brainer.

(44:03):
I mean, labour learned the hard way over the capital
gains tax. For goodness sake, it took them three times
to learn that. Lesson. Luxon may be about to learn
something similar. Asking welling Mike, I've been unemployed for a year.
I don't have to work because I've got some health issues.
But I want to work. I start my new job today.
I'm fifty seven. It's full time. Well done, You go
get them. I hope you have the very best of days.
Let me know how it goes, Mike. Why isn't anyone

(44:25):
asking why parents are taking responsibility for the children's dental health? Brushings?
One teeth is not a new concept. Not We have
the same argument every single time. There are some parents
who do in some parents who don't. Diet's also another side.
I mean, you can have your kids brush your teeth,
but if you're not eating the right food, then it's
all problematic, isn't it now? Nikola Willa is doing the
business for Christopher Lexin's when he's got a cold. I

(44:45):
would have phrased it differently. If I had a cold,
I'd be here have been here with cold, So just
having a cold and not being available as the Prime
Minister doesn't really strike me as the greatest excuse them.
Nikola comes on and go, look, Mike, you've been far
too hard. I saw him. I had to resuscitate him.
He's barely a life. Goodness sake, he's on some breathing apparatus.
Then I'll happily apologize. But a cold is, to be frank,

(45:05):
not quite good enough. And then we need to dabble
in the sport. The lads and the commentary Box. After
Wright on the Mike Hosking breaks.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
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Speaker 2 (45:29):
Promote the commentary Box, of course, Jason Pin and Andrews Sebil
After eight o'clock meantime, as we've told you this morning,
the ponies are not well, so the Finance Minister is
doing the business boris Nickoler. Willison's well, that's very good
morning to you.

Speaker 18 (45:40):
Good morning, great to be on the show mate.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
How sick is the Prime Minister?

Speaker 18 (45:45):
He's got a virus, just like every human being gets
from time to time. Turns out even prime ministers aren't
one hundred percent immune to everything.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Have you checked that he shouldn't be at work and
he's a bit soft?

Speaker 18 (45:57):
Well. I actually saw him on Saturday where he head
on the bravest face I've seen, but I could see
he was in that fog of illness where you're smiling
but on the inside you're dying. And so I was
pleased to hear that he was going to take a
little bit of rest this morning.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Okay, are you cognizant what's happening on the Northern Motorway
in the speed limit one hundred et cetera or not?

Speaker 19 (46:19):
Do you know?

Speaker 18 (46:20):
I am because Chris Bishop, our Transport minister, contacted me
last night to say, if you're on Mike tomorrow, he's
going to ask you about this because he is obsessed
with it.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
And we respect your obsessions. Mike.

Speaker 18 (46:34):
The word of sess this line of questioning.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
The word obsessed is I take umbradge at that. But
what I didn't what I didn't realize is that you've
only increased a small chunk of it five kilometers and
it's not even the new But what is wrong with
us that we just can't get on with it.

Speaker 18 (46:52):
Well, look, it's all to do with PPPs and the
requirements of those. But there's still work being done on
it and there will be future developments, and Chris Biship
has said that I can promise you then when those
future developments occur, your show is where they will be announced.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Okay, So how hard is it to just simply say
we've got a brand new piece of road. It's one
hundred and ten enjoy.

Speaker 18 (47:19):
So what it's about is the requirements for maintenance of
the road and making sure that the specifications are being
met and that that speed can be accommodated within the contracts.
So that's all being worked through.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Okay, you got a timeline on this.

Speaker 18 (47:35):
I don't, but I, as I say, Chris Biship is
all over this and is quite keen to be able
to keep talking to you about it, because, as you know,
we want people to be able to drive faster on
good roads where it's safe to do so. And it
looks like a pretty good road to me.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
The simplicity thing that you did yesterday, the housing that
you're on the news for where you disappointed the bloke
who was showing you around went on the news and
said that it's that your depreciation things not good enough
because there's no pipeline anyway. In other words, you showed
you a bit of hospitality than knife Jab.

Speaker 18 (48:05):
Well, he's allowed to say what he's going to say.
But I tell you what, I have been genuinely overwhelmed
by the amount of positive feedback I have had about
investment Booth so far to the extent that as I
was flying home yesterday, I had several people come up
to me in the airport. I had someone on the
plane say to me, love that policy. We're going to
bring forward our investment and our vegetable kit that we've

(48:26):
got in the processing plant. I've had farmers telling me
that it's the nudge they need to buy a new tractor.
I've had people, even in a chicken processing plant, say
we were going to do twelve million dollars worth of investment.
It's now going to be eighteen. So we're getting great
feedback across the country that this is the nudge a
lot of businesses need to make those investments and get

(48:46):
growing again.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Do you have any sense, and I mean I think
the answers know, but how much are people going to
spend therefore, how much are they going to depreciate? Therefore
how much are they not going to pay you tax?

Speaker 18 (48:57):
Well, there's two parts to it. There's those who are
going to be making investments anyway, so for them this
policy means a bit more cash flow because there's less
tax going to the taxman, more money for them to
invest in their business. Then the second thing is how
many new investments get brought forward as a result of
this policy. That's a bit harder to judge, but when
we look around the world at countries who have done

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policies like this, the evidence is pretty clear that people
make investments they wouldn't have otherwise made. And that's what
we've reflected in our costings, that's what we've reflected in
the estimates. And frankly, if we over deliver on this
and it costs more because more people are investing, I
think the growth dividend will be well worth it because
that means bigger jobs, more pay more opportunities for New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I note also this coverage this morning on the business
of this outsourcing of elective operations to the private sector.
I can't work out what's the problem with it if
you can't do it publicly and you give it to
somebody else to do and it gets done and therefore
it reduces a waiting list. Why do people moan about that?

Speaker 18 (49:58):
Unfortunately, some people always get by down in ideology, don't they?
Whereas I think most New Zealanders just want to get
their hip operation or their cataract operation sooner, and Simeon
Brown is absolutely focused on that target, which is why
he's saying, let's make use of some of those empty
operating theaters in the private sector. Many of our doctors

(50:18):
and specialists work in those hospitals week to week anyway,
so it's not a big change in that sense. But
let's get them on longer term contracts so they can
predict how many operations they'll be doing and get more
people the care that they need sooner. So this is
a good policy, but you can ever deal with the ideologues.
They're always out there.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Before he took to his sick bed, Chrystal Bluxen called
the super debate and no brainer. And I'm assuming you
guys are going to the election next year with it.
How do you introduce it? What age do you go
to over what period of time and how much political
capital do you think you will burn.

Speaker 18 (50:54):
Well, those are conversations our caucus will need to have
ahead of the election, because we think it's very important
that if there were to be any change to this
really major entitlement that many New Zealanders are relying on
for their retirement, that one we're upfront about what we're
planning to change, but two that we give people time
to prepare and to plan because it could be a

(51:16):
significant change. We haven't had those discussions yet. Everyone knows
that at the last election we campaigned on a gradual
increase in the age of eligibility, reflecting the fact that
people are working longer and living longer, and that we
signaled that there would be several years out from the
time of announcement. So we'll have another discussion as a caucus.
The thing is, we're all realists in the National Party.

(51:38):
The cost of superannuation to current and future tax payers
is growing significantly, and at some point a future government
is either going to have to slap a lot more
tax on people or is going to have to front
up to whether the settings can be tweaked a little bit.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
What's your sense of whether people will I mean, I
looked around various countries where we are a bit of
an outlier. Most people are above sixty five these days
the exception. I'm looking at Singapore and Germany. But apart
from that, what's your assessment of whether people get it
or you're in for a fight.

Speaker 18 (52:08):
Well, I think people treasure New Zealand superannuation. Even people
who have their own retirement savings and are on good
incomes feel I think that they've paid tax their whole life.
They often haven't taken much from the government, but the
one thing that they're looking forward to is that superannuation
at age sixty five. Now, I don't think that it

(52:30):
is a terrible compromise to be able to say to
some people, well, look you are going to get it,
but you need to wait a bit longer. But we'll
need to weigh all of that up and be clear
about when that is and who that's going to affect.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
All right, appreciate it time, Nicolas Will this Finance minister
in for the Prime Minister this Monday morning. We think
the Prime Minister we're sort of sorting something out probably
for Thursday morning, sixteen two.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
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Speaker 2 (53:00):
Just for the Record, thirteen away from eight. Just for
the record. I'm not obsessed about the particular piece of
road north of Auckland because it happens to be a
piece of road that I use. I'm obsessed about it
because it is emblematic of one of the many problems
as government faces, and that is the business of talking
a big game but not delivering it. And it just

(53:21):
strikes me as a very good example of something that's
not that hard to achieve, and yet look at how
hard it is to achieve and if they either do
one of two things, either do it or then stop
talking about doing it now. Retirement Australia sixty seven, Canada
sixty five, Denmark I told you earlier on voted over
the weekend they're going to seventy. France sixty two, but

(53:44):
they're weirdos sixty three in Germany, Ireland sixty six, the
UK sixty six, sixty two in Singapore but they're wealthy.
Switzerland sixty five, Japan sixty four, Netherlands sixty six, Luxemburg
sixty five. So it's a mixed bag. Thursday, we're going
to be having the reserve, thank governor fill in part time,
whatever they want to call him at the moment Christian Hawksby,

(54:04):
who will be delivering the day before the much anticipated
twenty five point cut to the cash rate. What will
be more important about what he does on Wednesday is
not just the twenty five points, because I think that's
baked in, as they say in financial circles, but what
he says about the economy as regards Trump, as regards trade,
as regards inflation, as regards jobs, and whether or not

(54:27):
he feels or says openly the need to go below
three percent for a neutral cash rate. In other words,
has it dropped back to two seven five or possibly
even two and a half because the recovery, such as
it is, is not quite as vibrant as they once
thought it would be. So that's all important. So that's
coming up on Wednesday, and he'll be appearing on the
program on Thursday. By the way, you'll notice I didn't

(54:49):
ask Nichola willis what she wore on budget Day, And
it's one of those most unfortunate things that we still
obsess about that sort of nonsense, and they follow it up.
Another media outlet followed it up yesterday. Chris Bishop, the
aforementioned was involved and he had a three Wise Men
shirt and a tie he had bought in France, and
he had got a soup from Half Had Men's Wear
and made by rem Brandt. And then Mike Butterick, who's

(55:11):
another MP, he got involved. He talked to Grant McCallum.
McCallum was wearing something from Work in Style and Rod
and Garnan. Then Carl Bates got involved and he's got
some Arim boots. What I didn't. The only reason I
raised this, The only reason I raised this is rim
Williams boots, which are good boots, but they're Australian boots.
Most of the leather comes from Wanganui. See I didn't

(55:32):
know that. And you wouldn't adjoined those dots automatically, would you.
But that's the sort of gold you get exclusively on
this program. Ten Away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
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Speaker 2 (55:45):
Away from It not just our wine that wins international awards.
As it turns out, Bluff Distilleries London Dry Gin had
a very good day out of the Gin Guide Awards
in London five wins, including best Contemporary Gin over forty
two percent that's an alcohol, Best Australasian Gin, and Best Brand.
This follows a gold at the San Francisco Wild Spirits competition.
David Nash is the co founder of Bluff Distiller and
he's with us. David, Morning, Morning, Mike, How are you

(56:08):
very well? Indeed, what's the contemporary gin?

Speaker 20 (56:11):
So it's over forty two percent ABD, so more than
modern styles, slightly gin that tastes like gin as we
like to call us.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Okay, So how old your business?

Speaker 20 (56:23):
The business itself, we launched publicly in March of last year,
so we're just over a year on the board, but
we've been sort of in development for about three years
prior to that.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
And you come from drink or No, Yes.

Speaker 20 (56:36):
So yeah, previously in the wine business. So my background's
on the branding side. Chris Fraser, who is our distiller,
who's based down in in Vericago, he's on the spirit
side of things. So yeah, it's a good combination of
branding and storytelling and then obviously having a great maker at.

Speaker 6 (56:52):
The heart of it.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
And is that part of that branding, that storytelling The Bluff.

Speaker 20 (56:56):
Bit Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm sure we've been down
to Bluff for about four thousand people descended on it
just this weekend for the or It's defense of all.
You know, Bluff is an amazing place, just full of
incredible stories and a huge amount of talent as well.
And I think, you know, bringing the world back to
that story and back to that place is a huge
part of the Bluff Distillery story.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Gin seems to be a thing, is it? As in,
like everyone's into Gin, the whole world's awards Gin?

Speaker 21 (57:24):
You know.

Speaker 20 (57:25):
Yeah, No, GIN is a massive growth globally. I think
at the moment it's about a sixteen billion dollar business
and the projecting that to be closer to thirty by
about twenty thirty, with you know, Europe and North America
being the big growth markets at the moment, but Asia
Pacific's really catching up. So it's a huge opportunity internationally.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Why are they coming from another drink or is it
just I've never tried it, let's have a crack.

Speaker 6 (57:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (57:51):
Absolutely, I think the premieritization across you know, all alcohol
categories is really making a big play.

Speaker 13 (57:58):
And obviously, you know, GEN is.

Speaker 20 (57:59):
A great based for lots of premium cocktails. But then
I think also, you know, people are looking for you know,
those more kind of artisan boutique products to have at home.
And we've all heard the kind of rhetoric of drinking
less but drinking better. You know, people want a great
product that's got some providence and the Bluff story definitely
fits into that.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
And is winning awards worth something? I mean then, was
it like everyone's got awards and there's a million of them.

Speaker 20 (58:24):
Winning the right awards? I mean definitely for us, we
want to get some attention internationally and take the brand
offshore and attract the right partners.

Speaker 17 (58:34):
To do that.

Speaker 20 (58:34):
So getting those awards and getting the validation of those
international judges, as you touched on, we picked up Gold
at San Francisco, which is a really really old show
with great judging panels, and definitely the gin guides got
probably the best of the best from the UK, so
you're getting a kind of consistent scoring across all those
international markets.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Fantastic, Well, congratulations, go well with that. David Nash, who's
the co founder and brand directorate to Bluff Distillery, Mike
read the superage. It doesn't matter comparing age with another country.
It's not going to happen because it's an election loser.
Well that's why I raised it just before seven thirty
and Nickela with us, is it or have we moved on?

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
One of those debates Dunton thought nuclear was a win
until it wasn't. Or Dunton thought we could bring people
back to the office until he found out he couldn't.
So the National Party buying themselves in trouble. Will Winston
Clete a saving because of course I think that that's
a bottom line for somebody you like Winston Clets is them.
But it's a fascinating debate, isn't it. Now Sport, let's
get into it in the commentary boxes Monday morning, Andrew

(59:31):
Sail and Jason Pine After the News, which is next
the News?

Speaker 21 (59:34):
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the Mic coking, Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities, Life
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Speaker 22 (59:54):
That's the Crusaders who come out on top, but it's
the scoreline who shows there. The victor's final support difference
ris Church fifteen points to twelve.

Speaker 15 (01:00:04):
The referee says that will do a try at a
sixty fifth minute that it's gotten the Hurricanes home here
by thirty one points to a twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
You don't need a Conmerican that is going to make
it eighty five points to seven eighty minutes gone. Hee try,
there's just too many cries on my sheep to go.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Through and name them all. No tree have trash the party.

Speaker 14 (01:00:31):
All on the FC's remarkable record breaking first season.

Speaker 15 (01:00:34):
One Loock have a grand finale and the Raiders a
Danets that come to Hauntan and they busted the Warrior's
home record in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Oh Atamen has passed eight. We're tracking down sav at
the moment. If you how hard can it be?

Speaker 17 (01:00:57):
Save?

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I mean, for goodness sake, can you listening to the
radio going a won or somebody hasn't rung me? Just
answer your phone? Sa Jason Pine is, of course because
he's a professional on time set to go. Jason, good morning,
Good morning, Mike. Can I ask you the very simple question,
were Melbourne the side for the occasion so in other words,
they when you need to win, you have to win,
you want to win, you go and do it, as

(01:01:18):
opposed to wouldn't it be great to win? And it's
our first season, so we'll fall over.

Speaker 14 (01:01:22):
Yeah, that's possible. They do have big game experience Melbourne Victory,
but Autond FC have been very good this season. I'm
not sure that an experience comes into a market. Just
think Melbourne Victory were better on Saturday night. They came
with a plan, they reachink their formation, they got it.
Auckland f C a little bit. I think Auckland kind
of got caught a little bit between should we go

(01:01:44):
for it and try and get another goal or should
we sit on what we have and try and see
this out, because they knew if they weren't, if they
didn't concede, they'd make the Grand Final. Once Melbourne got
their first goal, it kind of yeah, it just always
felt like the momentum of the game was with with them.
There was the disallowed goal, which of course was the
big talking point of the whole thing. But yeah, I
think if you look back on it, you say, well,

(01:02:05):
Melbourne Victory were the better side and probably deserve to
go through.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yes, they did. And but here's the point. If Auckland
FC hadn't been so dominant during the season, you could
have had that argument, right. So if that scrape didn't
just won the plate and it was a tight competition,
fantastic and you just don't know who's going to win.
All they did all year was win until they needed
to when they didn't.

Speaker 14 (01:02:28):
Yeah, it's a good point and it shows you know
that you know you can be the best team all season,
but you don't necessarily win the big prize at the
end of it. Melbourne Victory were fifth in the regular
season and here they are in the Grand Final and
Aukan FC, as you say, so dominant. We'll have to
watch with the rest of us if they can bring
themselves to do that. So, yeah, it was a shame.

(01:02:49):
It was a great I mean that the occasion was
all set up and Melbourne Victory just crashed the party.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Of nice of you to join us, Savy.

Speaker 15 (01:02:59):
A few things on and I'm sorry the and your
your number one rating brick for show just dropped a
couple of pigs this morning, Sorr about that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
What have you got some domestics on you brushing the
kid's teeth or you're making them a nice.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Done all that, and actually shifted house in the middle
of last week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Is Kaying still booting you out? Have you not learned
any of your listens? How many kayane or a house?
Has you been booted out? It's that your second or third?
For goodness sake? Have you traded up? Have you got
some indoor outdoor flow?

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, good nice native bush but of a
bit of shrubbery.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
You're selling it beautifully, Sam, Not not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Quite you know, not quite many Jeremy Clarks and like yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
But but but you would you call it a lifestyle
block or just a yard?

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
Wouldn't?

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
I'd call it a half block a half block?

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Okay? And have you got a view?

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
I've got a view of the garden.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Is it a nice garden?

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
It is?

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
There you go? Oh nice? And did the moving go well?

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
It went very well? Yes? Yes, yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Did you take time off work to move?

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I took it.

Speaker 15 (01:04:11):
Yeah, I took time off work two and although I
paid the movers by the air and.

Speaker 5 (01:04:18):
It was like watching the Fox Glacier times. Anyway, I'll
leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Fair enough. Hey, did you did you see the f
one this morning? If you're not got your teley plugged in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
You I'm sorting out. I'm still sorting out the WiFi
for theation.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I'll be there in July. It was a fantastic It
was a fantastic watch the Montaka the Monaco because the
pit strategy of the racing balls was phenomenal and Lawson
paid the price, but he willingly paid the price and
they scored big points. Hed you did well, Lawson did well.
It's best ever.

Speaker 15 (01:05:02):
They've sort of missed up the strategy sometimes, haven't they
This season? Racing balls and did they had to have
two compulsory stops.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
That was the new rule. Yeah, you try and make
it spicy, which it didn't in the end, but they've
tried because the cars are too big and the track's
too small and you can't overtake, and the whole thing's
a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
It's an amazing it's still an amazing trick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
It's a beautiful I was looking at it over the
weekend and I thought, do they really want it? Because
the previous week in Italy Amelia Romana. They're probably not
going back there. But I thought, do they really want
to lose Monica? And I think they don't want to.
It doesn't matter how sort of weird it gets as
a race. The rest of it, the Frescent is worth
its weight.

Speaker 15 (01:05:40):
In gold, and the pinpoint accuracy of those drivers beside
the barriers at two fifty k plus an hour is
quite extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
A lot of it can go wrong. Tell you what, Sam,
you go put the kettle on if you can find it,
and we'll come back with some more sports. Chet just
a couple of moments their team passed eight.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Do you want to fun fact? Jason? Yes, In the
one hundred and seventeen years of the NRL, only two
sides have ever been premiers. Reigning premiers have only ever
been the bottom of the table at this point of
the season.

Speaker 14 (01:06:29):
Incredible, what's happened to Penrith And Yeah, I'm sure their
fan bases at a loss to understand it just did
just a complete drop off. It is a very close
NRL competition this year, which is you know, normally it's
Penrith Melbourne Storm and then a big gap back to
the rest. But even the Storm this year have been
a little bit off the pace. Warriors last night, Look,

(01:06:50):
I was looking forward to, you know, after the disappointment
of Mount Smart on Saturday night, I was looking forward
to the Warriors getting some Vegas ravine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Look good for them.

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Yeah they did, they did. I think they did. Miss
Barnett and Fisher Harris. You know, when it's wet, you've
got to go up the middle. It's physical. They trying
to go around the outside of it too much and
it just wasn't the night for it, I don't think. Look,
you know, compare it to Vegas and they have clearly improved,
but it's not a hammer blow. I mean they're still
on the top, well.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
In the top.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
I have them. Second. I mean people forget that the
Raiders have played one more than us, so they technically
above on the ladder. But if you played one more,
that doesn't count. So we're still sickond.

Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
The Raiders are a good team, but yeah, one of
the best Raiders teams of recent years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Yeah, they are but the problem, said is that you've
got to win the ones that really count, don't you,
And I don't think we're there is the problem. I
worry in week twenty three we're going to play the
Bulldogs and that'll be an interesting contest.

Speaker 15 (01:07:50):
I think Penrith suffered in a little of the bit
of the Crusaders from last year. Everyone expected them to
come right. No one really still wants to play them,
but they just haven't come right.

Speaker 6 (01:07:58):
Have They.

Speaker 15 (01:08:00):
Lost a lot of players last three or four years
and a huge junior talent in that Penrith club and
the players have been slowly but surely picked off by
other clubs.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
So I think that's the.

Speaker 15 (01:08:10):
Pain of success after all those years, is losing a
lot of these players. A bit of a sobering weekend, really,
wasn't it all? Losing Mowana got spanked by the chief.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Said about explaining that how can you be so good
one week and so useful?

Speaker 15 (01:08:24):
Look, as we discussed pretty much every week on the show,
Sport at that level was a lot about the mental focus,
the subconscious. They lifted immensely for the Blues. There was
huge motivation to beat the Blues. There was some stuff
said online offline between the teams, especially from one team,

(01:08:45):
So there was a big motivation to lift and then
to try to do that again and sort of almost
manufacture that motivation.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
It's hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Who's the guy who was kicking Jason for the Highlanders
at the end. I mean, first question, how did the
Crusaders let Highlanders get that close? For goodness sake? And
then next the kick I could have got that. The
Islanders lose exactly, I could have got that kick.

Speaker 14 (01:09:07):
I've been so disappointed with the Highlanders. I thought Jamie
Joseph coming into you know, to again be head coach
from that director of rugby roll last year. I thought
he would add some real steel to that team and
has a time they got close to the Hurricanes, close
to the Crusaders. Water should have could have? You know,
they they are the Warriors from last year. They're not
winning the tight ones and they're eleventh on an eleven team.

Speaker 15 (01:09:29):
Yeah, they've lost ten I think the status they've lost
ten and seven of those by within a converted tribe.
Talk about frustrating though in close calls. But they should
have beaten the Crusaders full stop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yes they should. The club rugby we were talking to
Andrew Whore about earlier on in the program, and do
we need yet more Rugby World Club competition?

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
I think it would be in mildly interesting, I don't
just interesting. Well where they going to fit it in?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
So that's what I said, and he gave me some answer,
and it was we move this here and we'll pop
it in after the.

Speaker 15 (01:10:04):
WHI whilst playing at the Champions Cup in Europe, because
everywhere is a half our flight away right or in
our flight away, but we're talking other side of the
world logistics and travel.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
I just I don't know how it's going to work anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
No, I do worry about it. What about flag football, Jason?
Flag football is going to be included in the twenty
twenty eight Olympics, and this is the American football with
a flag, you know, like with a little tag.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
And I see the leading NFL players, then they're leading.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
NFL players play one per team. So does that make
it suddenly more interesting or is it just a stupid
game of recreational sport on a beach that shouldn't be
at the Olympics.

Speaker 14 (01:10:39):
Maybe the second of those things.

Speaker 5 (01:10:40):
I think I don't know that it makes it that interesting.

Speaker 14 (01:10:44):
Yeah, there seems to be a rush by a lot
of sports to find their T twenty you know, three
x three basketball, I mean seven's rugby was the first one.
This is another example of it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
Look they're going to the US market, aren't they. That
flag football's played.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
By Yeah, just because recreational pursuit, but just because kids
play stuff. I mean they play you know, hopscotches. Making
the Olympics sport to end. Yeah, it's ridiculous. I couldn't
agree more. Christ what do you mean he's scott in
He crashed. He didn't even start the race, Jason, I know,
but I just.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
Feel like like the Brickyards almost cursed for him. He
was on pole last year, you know, dropped back this time,
didn't even get to the green flag. I heard him
this morning afterwards. He just sounded absolutely distraught, as.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
You want he should be. And that's before you that's
before you get to the team he's and then the
bloke who owns them and all the spare parts they meant,
you know, doing dodgy stuff without the back. Not a
great Djokovic won is one hundredth though that had make
him the greatest of all time on.

Speaker 15 (01:11:49):
It seth well here he'll go part I think Fitter
is one O three Jimmy Connors one O nine, so
he'll probably go past both.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Do you love him now?

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Okay, did they break anything?

Speaker 15 (01:12:00):
I can't find my Jogovich framed poster in the movie
either anything broken someone else?

Speaker 5 (01:12:10):
Someone else has organized the pantry. It may look great,
but there's no rhythm and.

Speaker 8 (01:12:14):
Flow to it. You get me, I do get you know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Yeah, the breed's up too high.

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Take another day off work and go sort that out.
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I noticed the New Zealand geographic board mucked around for
ages and Russell's still going to be called Russell. It
could have been called coorro Rareca, or it could have
been called coorro Rareca Russell or Russell coorro Rareca. But
it wasn't isn't. And what I also note with the

(01:13:54):
great deal of interest is that first of all, this
is just a gargantuan waste of time having a geographic
board that spends lord knows how long investigating this, and
then they couldn't really make up their mind as to
what it could be. And if it gets a bit contentious,
then they sent it to the minister. When they sent
it to a minister, the minister was Damian O'Connor, and
you'll go, well, hold on, wasn't he in a previous government?
Yes he was. And once Damian O'Connor got that in

(01:14:17):
front of him, what did he do with it? Answer
was nothing, didn't do anything with it. Probably felt oh
it's a bit contentious. Don't want to make a decision.
So they waited till the new government came along and
mister pink is the new Land Information Minister, and he said,
I know what I'm going to call it, and I
call it Russell. So he wins an hour book news
for you. In a couple of moments here on the
make Hosking Breakfast the News Talk set.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
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The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover Villa designed
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Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
If you were with a couple of hours ago. Andrew
mentioned it briefly that he didn't cover off. This is
the retail sales which were always looking for good positive
information around the New Zealand economy. Retail sales thirty billion,
up one point four percent. This is the lake number
for the March quarter, so this is gen Febron March
Pharmaceutical Other store based retailing is up three point seven percent.
Motor vehicle parts relating as well as clothing, footwhere and

(01:15:10):
personal accessories up three point one and three point two.
Accommodation up two point nine. Liquor the biggest drop at
six point five down. Retail industry. Eleven of the fifteen
categories are up, so this is the word. We're all
in the doldrums, not so regionally speaking, and this is
a really interesting thing. Once again. The South Island leads obviously,
but all sixteen regions around the country had retail sales

(01:15:33):
values go up. South Island increase two point seven, North
Island one point seven, Auckland one point nine, Canterbury two
point four Wellington two point five biggest growth on the
coast and in Nelson up over five percent. Take that
all day long, twenty two to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Rightly we goes to for Rice. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
Good no doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Now when we last talked about it, of course there
was divorced time. And now where are we out with
the Libs and the Nats.

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Well, it split lasted not overnight really, I mean two
or three days and they were back together. They had
to do that. The Liberal Party were just floating along them,
were about to disappear and without their coalition partners, the Nats,
they're nothing. So they're back together and the new Liberal leader,
Susan Lee, will probably announce her shadow cabinet this week.

(01:16:27):
Now that obviously is going to be minus Peter Dutton
who lost his seat. And so this is a battle
between the Conservatives which were aligned to Peter Dutton and
the Moderates which are aligned to Susan Lee. So we'll
see who gets punished and who doesn't. There's going to
be a mix. You would think the Nats must have
extracted you would reckon Micah Price out of negotiating to

(01:16:49):
get the coalition back together. So it'd be interesting to
see what front bench seats say get The recriminations on
the election loss continues during Australian at the weekend, seeing
that the President of the Liberal Party, John Olson, actually
went to Andrew Hurst, who was running the Liberals campaign
on election night and said, hang on a minute. You
told me three days ago that the swing was on,

(01:17:13):
that Peter Dutton was safe in his own seat, and
that we were going to pick up ten labor seats.
What the hell happened? So clearly the campaign and the
polling in particular just fell over and it was hopeless.
I should point out the Melbourn seed of Goldstein, even
though a blow called Tim Wilsoner used to hold it
then he lost it to a heel. He looks like

(01:17:35):
getting that back, but she won't concede. He's in front
well since finished.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
But see here's the why doesn't she hear to the rules?
Because I was following this with a great deal of
interest on Friday because it kept moving. At one point
it was down to seven votes and I thought, anyway,
so he's got it by two sixty and the rules
are if it's one hundred or less, it's a recount.
Fair enough, it's too sixty, that's not one hundred or less,
she loses.

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Yep, And the AECED has shown the Electric Commission will
be the one to make that decision. They'll make that
decision quite quickly. She's going to look pretty silly if
they say, well, bad luck, he's got enough votes in front,
didn't continue to hold the seat. You can just bad luck.
She's obviously suggesting. And you know, it's almost actionable for

(01:18:17):
Tim Wilson. She's trying to suggest someone's cheating and that
some of these votes have been incorrectly counted. So the
scrutiny is will have to go back over it. But
I don't think there'll be a recount.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
He'll to be fair and once again, and watching it Friday,
I did think to myself because the way the votes
moved and the preferences and stuff like that. One, it's
a complicated system too. It seems to take a ridiculous
amount of time. I mean, this was weeks ago the election.

Speaker 6 (01:18:42):
Yeah, and these votes that you're talking of are mainly
postal votes, people who live in that area, who travel
I mean, these could be votes in an envelope that
have been sent from London or somewhere in Europe where
there's a voting booth open for Austrainers to vote, and
not in the country. That's why it takes so long.
But it's a crazy system, and ever going to reform it.
No one's going to put their hand up and say,

(01:19:02):
let's get rid of preferential burning, let's go first buster hosts.
They should do that, but it won't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
As well as I know Melbourne, I thought I knew it, well,
where's the shopping center? I couldn't work out where it
was put.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
Northland is in the northern suburbs. Westfield has a shopping
center called Chadston, has got one called Southland. That's got
one called north Land. Now, apparently yesterday two gangs of
young males decided that they would gather in the food
court and take each other on armed with machetes. The
shopping center went into excuse me, into lockdown. Security shutters

(01:19:36):
down on most of the retail stores as these bloats
ran around wielding these long, sharp edged machete knives. There
was a ten person brawl. One of them was a
fifteen year old boy. The police Superintendent Kelly Lawson said
it was a planned to meet up between opposing groups
to have a fight. Now, the reason I raised this

(01:19:58):
and no one wi to see that happen. The state
government has decided to ban the sale of machetes. Now,
they put that through in legislation about a month ago,
but it takes until September until this becomes law. So
if you're a machetee shop seller, like you know, a
Night to ten or something, you don't have to take

(01:20:19):
these things off the shelf until September. I just don't
understand the delay. And when you see fifteen year olds
running around trying to kill each other, you would think
we could perhaps bring the machete ban forward to look
quicker than what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Is there outrage when that sort of thing happens. Because
you've talked many times before about Melbourne Victoria generally being
a problem crime wise. I mean when the sort of
madness happens to people go nuts.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Well, the people in the shopping center do, but the
rest of the community seems to get on with life.
But I mean it is very confronting. I mean, you've
seen that TV vision of the boat running down Chapel
Street and near where I will live, and I'm in
the city with a machete. I mean, it only takes
you to look someone in the either wrong way or
in my case, be stupid enough to make a verbal remark,

(01:21:06):
you get your arm chopped off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Unreal. Hey, the flooding in New South Wales and just
reading over the weekend, the one particular person thirty five
thousand dollars after last time they said, sure, if you
want to ensure your place, that'll be thirty five thousand
dollars premium. So of course obviously they can't afford it,
so they're not getting This has become seemingly a real issue,
hasn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:21:27):
It has, And you know we had the twenty twenty
one floods in lis War, which was further north. This
time it was Tari. The amount of water that came
down places like the Mounting River was extraordinary and people
simply can't afford to ensure. And so when you get
all that water through your shop, in particular a retail shop.
There was pictures of the people in Tarre on Friday

(01:21:47):
that basically they had to empty all of the stock
in their shop. Think about a little retailer, I don't
know what selling whatever. They had to empty all of
their stock out on the street, everything spoiled, and then
they had to start sweeping with broom mud out of
their store. That's all of that stuff could be worth
undred grand. They've gone and you can't and you can't
claim it on the train.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
But you can kind of trap though, aren't you, Because
if you're in a flood prone area and you can't
ensure yourself and you know it's going to happen again,
what do you do?

Speaker 6 (01:22:17):
Nothing you can do, And that insurance question. Obviously, the
insurance companies then spread the load around, so everybody in
Australia's insurance all of a sudden goes up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Are we happy about Oscar? I thought Oscar. Oscar gave
me the vibe, not this weekend but generally that he's
going all the way. But you got pipped this morning
by his mate.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
Well he started third, started third and finished third. I mean,
Monaco is a beautiful place to watch F one on
television because it's so spectacular, but it's a dreadful racetrack
because no one can pass anybody. So the two McLaren's
with the quickest car separated by one Ferrari. Nice to
see Liam Lawson get some points, exactly, but it's not

(01:22:58):
one of those races that you sit and watch them
that someone's going to come from fourth and win the row.
Max was stepping a bit, the most frustrated bloke on
the planets.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah, exactly, all right, mate, go wend go well see Wednesday.
Appreciate it very much. Let me come back on the
flooding because I read a very interesting piece over the
weekend about climate change and how quickly they attributed that
particular food to climate change. But more shortly a forty
five the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Be Morning MANE what happened to Sonoda? He got run
into by Pierre Gazly Ghasly Rector's car completely. Sonoda, I'm
assuming was affected. He didn't appear to be overtly affected.
I mean Gasly's wheel fell off. So that's a fairly
obvious clue that things haven't gone well. But things didn't
look that badly for Sonoda. But he came seventick to

(01:23:46):
whatever it was. So the racing bulls hasn't hadro and
Lawson did extremely well. Now look up this article as
well worth reading. The New South Wales floods have already
been linked to climate change. Scientists are debating if that's
too quick, that's your headline. Even before the floods peaked
on the mid North coast of New South Wales last week,

(01:24:07):
the first scientific analysts linking the event to climate change
hit the web climber Meter. It's a rapid attribution study.
They did this rapid attribution study overnight Thursday. They found
the New South Wales floods, especially around tai the aforementioned,
were significantly worsened by human driven climate change. That was
the claim they made. The thing had only been going

(01:24:28):
a day and suddenly it was climate change and they
could say now. Climber Meter is funded by the European
Union also the French National Center for Scientific Research, and
is one of the leading proponents internationally of rapid attribution studies,
which seek to provide a more timely explanation of the
link between specific extreme weather events and global warming. Now

(01:24:48):
the article goes on, and what's really interesting about the
article in this day and age of media that you
can't really trust, is even the scientists involved in the
business are deeply divided as to whether or not you
can actually make such a claim. Now, these climber meet
a people. There's a couple of them out there who
do this sort of work. They claim they've got a model.

(01:25:11):
You just plug in the current data from whatever specific
event you've got into the model and it will tell
you whether or not it's a climate related event. Now,
obviously you go into the business as the model solid.
They argue, yes, it is, and therefore they're accurate. Others,
and these are scientists in the business of studying whether
in climate change, say, we're not convinced. So even the

(01:25:34):
scientists are not convinced that what is being said is true.
And of course, if you're looking at it its value
in an overarching argument, if you're a skeptical already, and
I think increasingly people are, I don't think many people
argue these days that climate change is real. It's always
been real. The climate constantly changes. The argument is is
how much of the human impact is a part of it?

(01:25:55):
And are we able to now scientifically beyond reasonable doubt
say that within a twenty four hour period of a
weather event, Oh that's climate change, no question about it.
And even when the scientists say I don't think so.
That's where you've reached an interesting point where all you're
going to do is get The people who are skeptical
are going to become even more skeptical, and the people
who perhaps weren't that skeptical in the first place suddenly

(01:26:17):
are so another word, you start losing the debate. Nine
away from nine the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
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are famous in Australia sold here, of course, but famous

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in Australia. The leather is finished in Wanganui, of all
places in Glenn and I are discussing whether or not
the tannery's mistake trick by going, well we've got the
finished leather, why don't we make the boots? Whether Arian
Williams doesn't go why are we finishing the leather? And Wogan,
why an't we finishing the leather here in Adelaide? Such
as the mystery of business and why don't we spend

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some money and get twenty percent off? After last Thursday?
There's another question five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
So Monaco Lawson gets his first points, which is fantastic.
He finished eighth, started ninth. They thought they might be
a little bit more, but they didn't exercise it. But
they felt positive about the cow. So that's good, fabulous strategy.
If you haven't watched the race, watched the race as well,
worth watching just for the strategy. Had you was faster
higher up, so Liam's job was to deliberately slow the

(01:27:39):
pack down so that hedger when he pitted, because it
was a two pit strategy, when he pitted, wouldn't lose position.
So here's Liam post race.

Speaker 19 (01:27:47):
You were the first team that pulled that trigger and
you began to back it up, back it up, Isaac
got those two free pit stocks. Take us into the cockpit,
take us into how you managed to do that while
not making a mistake yourself and not being overtaken. I
know it's hard here talk us through that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 8 (01:28:02):
I was flat out.

Speaker 22 (01:28:05):
No, it's great, it's not. And you have a plan
and it executes perfectly and today to have done that
is great.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
There you go. So the point being to slow the
field down. You're dealing with tents of a second. But
when you're used to going flat out, it is hitting
your apexes and lines and stuff is hard work.

Speaker 5 (01:28:22):
How do you absolve the pressure from behind it?

Speaker 22 (01:28:25):
It's so different. It's we've all obviously seen Center, you
know when he drove here and he backed off and
he crashed, and it's something that honestly, when you're not
flat out, it's really difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Like for me, it was trying to keep concentration.

Speaker 22 (01:28:41):
Your brain goes off in random places and it's actually
quite difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
And so it's on to Spain as part of the
triple head that they started and literally went to Monaco
and they're off to Spain now. So this is the
European start of the season. So at last he's got
some points. At last he feels comfortable in the car.
Hedge is good. He's good. They've got points as a
midfield side. That's encouraging. Sonoda finish now where Max is
still struggling, And so goes the F one season back tomorrow.

(01:29:09):
Doctor Libby Weavers back, which I'm looking forward to. Heaven's
ahead over on the program for a couple of years,
so we'll get her in the studio after right and
talk about health and nutrition, all the usual stuff we
love talking about. But until then, as always, happy days.

Speaker 9 (01:29:27):
No I will care home weight of fifty five years
down the road.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
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