Full Show Podcast: 27 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
Been morning and welcome today. New sentencing rules for judges.
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Joe mckennon's and rymander Brady, he's in the UK. Posky
Welcome to the day, seven past six, so little something

(00:31):
from the old perspective file. I thought this morning. Although
things are die and do and straight up and down
bad in some areas, they're not as bad as headlines
would lead you to believe. The best line of high
drama that I've read this week was around jobs. It's
like the Hunger Games, they said, is it really? A
lot of press has been given to those who have

(00:51):
lost jobs of like the reason for this is because
we haven't gone through a job lost scenario for a
while in this country. But if you've been around a while,
it isn't like the Hunger Games or anywhere clas to it.
The unemployment rate is four point three percent. It might
be a little bit higher, given some of our data
is a bit out of date, but at worst it
is thought it may get to five percent. Five percent
in historic context is little more than normal. What we

(01:11):
are living through is moderately normal. The same with interest
rates at about six points something maybe seven percent. Yes,
a lot higher than what they have been, but in
context not remotely unusual at all. And in these examples
is the value of institutional knowledge. Much of the coverage
of job losses and the ensuing Hunger Games has been
based around the public service, which brings in another interesting

(01:32):
aspect of jobs and choices. I read the plight of
a person recently laid off who was off to Australia
because the work they did no longer existed here. They
were going to Melbourne, where the government puts more funding
into the social work they do, which is great if
that's your calling. But choosing a job so specialist it
no longer even exists surely was a risky choice in
the first place. Like the person whose story I also read,

(01:55):
who got laid off from the Auckland light rail project.
Surely when they applied they knew that wasn't going to
be long for this world. Having lost a couple of
jobs myself over the years, there is no question it sucks,
especially if it comes as no fault of your own.
But the job adds may be down and the applications
may be up, but at no point is what we
are going through any more arduous, difficult or unusual than

(02:15):
we have been through many a time before, and indeed
will go through again. What I suspect has changed is resilience.
There isn't as much of it about these days, and
that's why normal seems like the Hunger Games.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
News of the world. In ninety seconds, well.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
The private jet is landed in Canberra. Julie is back home.
Julienne is back home, but he left the missus to
do the talking.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Julian wanted me to sincerely thank everyone. He wanted to
be here. But you have to understand what he's been through.
He needs time, he needs to recuperate.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
And this is a process.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Speaking of journos who've had a tough time in Russia,
the Geskovitch trial is underway now.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
This trial is being held behind closed doors in the media,
there's only given a brief glimpse of the Wall Street
Journal reporter. He's being held in a glass cage, he's
been given a prison style shaved haircut, and he's not
permitted to speak.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And then we come to the big dibide, a couple
of old guys slugging it out to be the most
powerful man of the world. The Republicans are not leting
up on the Mountain View theme.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
I've did a lot of media over the last several days,
and everybody wants to know which Joe Biden's.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Going to show up.

Speaker 7 (03:24):
And look, my summary is this, it doesn't matter if
he drinks a whole gallon of energy drinks. He's not
going to be able to match the pacumen and the
readiness of Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But vic he once wanted the big job is handing
out advice to the big dog.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
My best advice to President Trump is just be yourself.
The American people are sick of being fooled by the media.
Just tell the people what your record was. Compare that
to Biden's, and I think that President Trump is still
going to be able to succeed in a big way.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
And the big dog himself is waxing lyrical about himself.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
I've been preparing for it for my whole life. If
you want another truth, and I'm not sure, you can
lock yourself into a room for two weeks or one
week or two days and really learn what you have
to know. And I've been through it. I've been a
popular president. We had some great elections and some number
of votes nobody got more than we got.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
He rolled out his we won't have a country lift
line throughout all the world.

Speaker 9 (04:17):
You have to be respected. I hate to use the
word feared, but that's not so bad either. And once
we get it going, and once we're in power, and
we have to be because we're not going to have
a country if we don't win this election, we won't
have a country lift.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Told you he also has insight into how's opponents preparing.

Speaker 10 (04:35):
Well.

Speaker 9 (04:36):
If I have to practice standing, we have his solves
a big problem.

Speaker 10 (04:39):
Now.

Speaker 9 (04:40):
I had heard that too. He's practicing how to stand
or something standing.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Finally, in a small area of cornball, they want the
posts to be given protection gear. They' stelf receiving the
mile because of the attacks by seagulls during nesting season.
The residents they want hot hats handed out at Royal Miles.
They say, well, look, we're monitoring things daily. But I
told the people they go to white until the NISTing seasons,
or choose another address for delivery. So that's news of
the world and helpful advice. In ninety you'll be pleased

(05:05):
to know Kenya sorted. The President's Paul the Penny said,
I don't worry about the taxes. We'll send them back
to Parliament. This is Rufo. William Rufo will not sign
that finance bill we're talking about this time yesterday, including
the hikes on taxes. Violent clashes. Place was set alight,
the youth went nuts. So that problem solved for now.
Twelve past six the costing breakfast. Speaking of debates, the

(05:28):
last of the British ones begins in about an hour's
time Starma versus Sunac and we've got a little bit
of scandal. Let me come to that in the moment.
Fifteen past six.

Speaker 11 (05:37):
Eleven.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Funds Management, Greg Smith, how are you good?

Speaker 10 (05:40):
Thanks boying.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
What happened in Australia there it.

Speaker 12 (05:43):
Was absolute shocker. So this is the inflation number for May.
So jumped to four points four percent in the twelve
months that was up in three point six percent on April,
so unexpected price rises across the board. Housing it's up
five percent, Food and non alcoholic beverages that's up three percent,
Transport up five percent, Alcohol and tobacco ups almost seven percent.

(06:07):
So yeah, it's a problem for the RBA. Headline inflation running.
It's fast distance novem, but it's meant to be going
the other way. Fred and vegie costs are up. So
the investors pretty much agree, and you saw the market
sort of dip in response that the RBA meeting on
the August six is now live. There's a third chance
that she the Central Bank is going to raise rates
and the probability of a rise in septem is now

(06:28):
over fifty percent. So it's going to be some pretty
important quarterly inflation numbers on July thirty first, So these
are the monthly ones, of course, but yeah, the last
mile of inflation is proving difficult. The RBA was expecting
inflation to fall, it's going the other way. You've got
labor intensive services sector that's been pretty strong. Cost of
going to a vetna was up seven percent. Prices getting

(06:49):
a haircut that's upbout over five and a half percent,
resturant meals becoming more expensive, and you've also got other
inflationary sort of drivers on the way. You've got the
government budgets, the stimular see that's going to We had
around about fifty billion to the economy. You have got
electricity rebates, which should help things, but yeah, a lot
of things going the wrong way might rent inflation that's
still running at the fastest rate since two thousand and nine.

(07:11):
You've got some of the problem to your lack of
home building and low, very low vacancy rates. So you're
all putting a bit of pressure on the RBA, and
that meeting is certainly live. Rate cut is off the.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Table, all right. And then we come to FedEx, who
must be grateful that COVID wasn't their finest out.

Speaker 10 (07:29):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 12 (07:29):
So it's interesting and obviously a pandemic beneficiary. Look that
shares are still up ninety percent on where they were
entering the pandemic, but obviously they did very well during COVID.
Things have turned around, the economy softening, and they're in
cost cutting mode. But she is up strongly overnight, up
around about fifteen percent, So results being an expected quarterly

(07:50):
revenues over twenty two billion. They're up slightly. Need income
that was one and a half billion, that was up
as well. They're retiring some jets and looking to modernize
their fleet. But they actually are cutting back on spending generally,
so capital spending down around about sixteen percent of five
point two billion. They're expecting some growth this year despite
the decline and I suppose the economic conditions, but that's

(08:11):
a lot of that's due to cost cutting MIC so
they're actually looking to cut four billion dollars out by
the end of fiscal twenty twenty five. The consolidating parts
of their business as well. They did up the dividend,
but they've certainly got some head wins. They've lost their
US Postal Service contract and that's their largest customer for
their exclusse sement segment. They lost that to rival ups

(08:31):
and also this week pilot Star and Strike they're saying
they paid a lot less than those and that United
and Delta. Our Delta's actually put up at pay rates
of pilots by over thirty percent, So got some issues there,
but year shares up strongly.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Right, What do you make of VW and Rivian So
Rivian needs the help. They're going to get five billion potentially,
they've got one billion now, so what does all this mean?

Speaker 12 (08:51):
Yes, I think it's probably a case of Volkswagen sort
of hedging their bets, so this is riving. The startup
actually listed back in twenty twenty one. They had Forders
in initial investor. They actually exited last year, and Amazon's
an investor as well. Has really struggled. As we know,
the adoption of EV's has been a lot. There's some
men expecting. You've got companies traditional order makers like Volkswagen

(09:12):
actually pulling back on their production. You know, we want
to still want the gas guzzling vehicles, it seems. But yeah,
they're sort of having per perhaps sort of like adult
Jhue almost here with this investment in Rivian playing a
bit of catch up. So Volkswagen's actually falling behind. And
you look at their share of the EV market globally,
it's around about eight percent. It's about half of where
Tesla sits, and also China's bid and you look at them,

(09:34):
they've sort of falling behind on evs themselves, but also
on autonomous driving and other software. So they've got a
JV going with Rivian which is strong on both.

Speaker 10 (09:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (09:44):
Yeah, Votsav actually said ZED deliveries are down three percent
in the quarter. But I suppose it's sort of looking
to the longer term and the opportunity some risks have potentially.
Mike Ribven's actually focused on premium cars, so that's traditionally
has been sort of evs and pickup trucks, so that
you know it's potentially potentially risk but also an opportunity.
And then also we're going to see where these trade

(10:05):
frictions go between US, Europe and China, and I suppose
that the anti dumping tariffs that are going on, so
you're plenty going on in the sector.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, numbers please, yeah, I S the S and P.

Speaker 12 (10:15):
Five hundred at the moment is flat five four six
six and as deck cup point two percent, seventeen and
one five five down up point one percent, thirty nine
one fifty six foots the up foot situally down three
point three percent for in the UK A two two
five nikkei up one point three percent Japan and the
beck of those inflation numbers across the Tasman the ASEIXS
two hundred was down point seven percent. Our goal down

(10:37):
eighteen dollars two thousand, three hundred and one and now
it's all up fifty cents eighty five spots sixty currency
markets against the US for sixty point eight weeker week
also against GBP forty eight point two. Also lower against
Ossie ninety one point seven. Just back to the extics
fifty great session. We're up one percent, ridiums up over
three percent, and main freight on that after ours result

(10:57):
from FedEx was up over two percent.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Nice you have good weekend catch up soon, Appreciate it
very much. Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management, Tasking Inside Out
Too seven hundred and twenty four million globally highest grossing
film of the year so far soon going to crack
one billion. They reckon the first since Barbie, so it's
been a while between drinks one of only seven across
one hundred million in its second domestic weekend in theaters
in the state. So at last they got a hit.

(11:21):
Are you thinking about movies over the long weekend? Six
twenty one on the Myke Cosking.

Speaker 13 (11:24):
Breakfast, The Mike Hosking Breakfast, our newstoxid but yet a
bit of a problem with the Labour Party will come
up almost certainly in the debate in about an hour's
time between Starmer and Sonic.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
This time next week they're voting in the ukf you
haven't followed this anyway. Reaching Labour's target for decarbonizing the
economy is going to cost hundreds of billions of pounds.
The telegraphs got hold of a of a recording hundreds
of billions of pounds. How much have they put aside
for it?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Four?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So Darren Jones, Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, it
was originally twenty eight billion per year, and he said
it's in a tiny amount, tiny quote unquote tiny amount.
Star has already downgraded the investment plans from twenty eight
to four point seven. Made it sound as though we
basically junk the whole thing. So this goes into the
suspicion of labor. They say one thing, do another. Where

(12:13):
have we heard that before? The Labor party is saying
one thing and doing another. I can't remember meantime, And
it's good we've got Joe on this morning in Italy.
Maloney's blown a gasket because URSUV and delayane is while
she was always expected to retain her job at the EU.
But of course you'll be well aware that things went
very well for the right wingers. Unfortunately it doesn't seem

(12:33):
to be reflected that way in the top jobs. The
Estonian prime minister, a woman called callous is going to
be the chiefs diplomat, blocks chief diplomat. The former Portuguese
Prime minister Costa is going to be the president, and
ersuvan Delaine holds onto a job. And Maloney, of course
was wanting other people or Bun's not happy either, and
they're going, what's happening here? Hold on? So things not
good in the EU, and Joe will reflect that to

(12:54):
us in the next half our six twenty five trending.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Now we have chemist wells, great savings every day.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
This is good. Hugh Grant back, he's got more villain
He's got This guy has transformed his career like nobody anyway.
This time he plays a man who captures a couple
of Mormon missionaries and subjects them to psychological tests and games.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Are you interested in learning more about the Church of
Jesus christis.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Come on it, we can't come in side.

Speaker 9 (13:19):
And let's know the woman is present.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
My wife is home.

Speaker 14 (13:21):
Does that come you like pie?

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (13:24):
Wife?

Speaker 15 (13:24):
By any oven I.

Speaker 16 (13:25):
Can tell that you are a very spiritually curious person.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think it is good to be religious, to find
your faith in a doctrine you actually believe.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Well, our work here is done.

Speaker 12 (13:37):
I will go and check on the pie.

Speaker 17 (13:44):
We just need to go home.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I won't keep you a few wish to leave, but
I want you to choose which daor to go through
based on yourself.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
What does this have to do with us leaving everything?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
It will make your parts will beat faster America.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I watched it, not the whole thing, but the trailer.
It's brilliant. He's brilliant. It's called Heretic. It's in theaters
November fifteen. I don't know i'd want to go to
a theater and watch that. I might just be alert.
But Nooby, but how he's transformed. For you think about
a boy and four weddings and a funeral and all
he became famous for. And you look at his work
now and I know the pop tart things, you know,

(14:27):
slightly out of left field and all that sort of thing,
but that he really is an exceptionally good actor. And
I do wonder if he wonders at times whether he
shouldn't have stretched himself further. I mean, if you look
at the gentleman, that's another brilliant character as well. If
he shouldn't have stretched himself further earlier in his career
and done a more wide ranging body of work. But
then again, what does he care? He seems happy anyway,
us for you in a couple of moments. Then we'll

(14:48):
head to the farm.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to
like my costume, Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
With Jaguar, the art of Performances.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Tom Mike, here's the next to Anthony Hopkins. Very good
point may well be, Mike, do you have a man
crush on you? Grant? Yes, I do, an unashamedly so.
George Maloney, not happy at the moment, will go to
Italy Shortley Joe McKenna in a couple of minutes. Twenty
three to seven. Now it has been the most expensive
season for dairy farmers in a decade and that has
left operating profits down twenty seven percent. This is from

(15:21):
the Dairy New Zealand survey that shares farmers are contending
with they drop and milk solids reduction and the stocking
rates and a list and farm expenses head of Data
Science and Modeling at Dairy New Zealand. Mark Neil's done
all these numbers. He's with us Mark.

Speaker 15 (15:32):
Morning, Morain and Mike Good to talk with it.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Andre too. Have you got a word for this? Is
it arduous? Difficult, troubled? What's what's happening on the farm
and a word?

Speaker 15 (15:43):
Well, I think farmers are a bit like the rest
of us in New Zealand at the moment, really battling
with inflation and that led to lower profit margins and
so farmers have to be really cost conscious in this
in this environment.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
How review is this given? I'm hoping that the increase
in prices is dropping. So the yes, they're increasing, but
not by as much as they have been.

Speaker 10 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (16:09):
So the economic survey that we've just released was for
the twenty two to twenty three season, so that finished
twelve months ago. We've got forecasts for the most current
season where we've seen a reduction in milk price relative
previous season, again which has put pressure on margins. And

(16:29):
what we've set, what we think we've seen is that
feed prices have ease back a little bit, fertilizer prices
of ease back a little bit, and farmers have in
their budgets pulled back a little on the repairs and maintenance.
So the net effect though is for the season just
gone a further ten percent lower operating profit per kilo

(16:52):
milk solids.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And when they're down, the whole town around them is
down right.

Speaker 15 (16:56):
Yeah, I think that's safe to say that dairies is
a very important sector for New Zealand. Twenty five to
thirty billion dollars of export revenue, a one in four
of our export dollars, so it's important for New zealand
success and the success of rural communities as well.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
As we said here at the moment, the auctions of
late have been reasonable. The Sinlay story not a particularly
good one. Is Are you optimistic for dairy as an
industry generally?

Speaker 10 (17:25):
I think so.

Speaker 15 (17:26):
We've got a program of work at darien Z that
is really looking towards our international competitiveness going forward. We
need the research and development into productivity and sustainability that
helps us retain that competitiveness, so it's a key part
of our role. I think farmer sentiment has improved a

(17:47):
little over the last six months. They're feeling a bit
more in control of their businesses. Even though they're cautious
with respect to the wider economy. Yeah, I think I
think we can have a positive view of the few
should willing. It's quite tight at the moment.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, you say down twenty seven percent that comes from
the operating profit per hector, which is threeenty seventeen dollars.
How much should you make per hector to be able
to go tell you what? Things are? Pretty good?

Speaker 15 (18:16):
So out of that operating profit you have to pay
first operating profit before interest in tax, and so what
we've seen in twenty one twenty two, farmers had to
put twenty five percent of that operating profit into interest,
and then with increasing interest expense and a declining margin

(18:39):
in the year that's just finished, that's probably been closer
to two thirds of their operating profit has gone into
the interest expense. So that's probably a lot more than
farmers would like to be putting into interest, leaving a
lot less for themselves.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It's the old story, isn't it? Good insight, make appreciate
it pretty much. You have a good long Weekendreciate your time.
Mark Neil, head of Data and Science Modeling at During
New Zealand. Just to give you a CeNSE. It's nineteen
minutes away from seven. Work you through little scheme, through
a couple of numbers. So milk solids payouts down six
percent sold per cow, Milk solid sold per cow increased
to percent sold per hectare decrease two percent. That's a

(19:18):
three point four percent reduction. And animal stocking rate so
they're not having as many cows. Average heard these days
has gone from four nineteen down to four oh seven.
Also contributed to the reduction of livestock income per kilo. Obviously,
there are a few achilos working expenses. Operating expenses at
five seventy five to six sixty seven per kilo, respectively,
highest in ten seasons. That operating profit number of threeenty

(19:42):
seventeen that I gave you per hectare. The cash surplus
of forty four, five hundred and forty one dollars was
above the ten year average of ten thousand, six hundred
and fifty four. But the cash surplus cash remaining that's rent, interest, tax,
capital transactions, debt repayments, drawings, discretionary expenses that's been deducted.
So that is a picture life on the farm, and
life on the farm is very different to life in

(20:02):
the city when it comes to expenses and inflation. As
we've told you many times before eighteen.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
To two, the Mike Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Speaking of farmers, you can be grateful that Labor aren't
still in office because this is where you were going
farmers in Denmark. Overnight has been announced. There's an annual
tax ninety six dollars per cow. And I told you
how many cows there were, There's hundreds of them. This
is the Coalition government. It's a world first carbon emissions
tax on agriculture, new levees starting in twenty thirty, country's

(20:31):
biggest source of emissions. Of course, just like us. They
got three point seven billion. They're going to put it
into reforestation, establishing wetlands, all the stuff that the Labor
Party here we're going to do. And so I imagine
if we'd gone down that track of ninety six dollars
per cow, so you have fewer cows because you can't
afford to do it. If you have fewer cows, you're
not profitable. Or if you keep the number of cows,
you're going to pass that on to people. Can they

(20:52):
afford to have it passed on to them? And so
it goes and so Denmark's fallen for it. Fortunately we
got out of it in time. Six forty five.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Joe mckennabvery good morning to you, Good money mate. Mss
Maloney not overly happy with I don't think the deal's
officially been announced, but I think it's as good as
isn't it.

Speaker 17 (21:14):
Yeah, I think it's still going backwards and forwards. Italy,
Hungary and Slovakia are apparently very unhappy with this agreement
that's going on to decide the top jobs at the
European Union. Under the reported deal, commissioned President Ursula Vonderlein
of the European People's Party would remain in her position
and a socialist from Portugal would become the European Council president.

(21:37):
So Maloney's not happy about it. She's heading off to
a summit tomorrow and she's ahead of a very powerful
European Conservatives and Reformists group which was strengthened from the
June elections. So it'll be interesting to see how much
clout she has as these jobs are divided up.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So we're dealing with ideologies, aren't we because Macron and
shultze I supported this. So the left like what they're seeing,
the right not so much.

Speaker 17 (22:03):
Yeah, And there's even talk Mike of some of these
right wing coalitions fracturing even further because they all want
their own little faction inside the parliament. But she's responsible
for a group that has around eighty three MPs in
the European Parliament, and she's really in command of the

(22:25):
third biggest political force. So I'm not sure she's got
enough numbers to change the outcome.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
By goes to credibility too, because I mean, you can't
argue the right didn't win in terms of you know,
there was the search, and so she needs to sort
of The supporters will be expecting her to back that
up in some way, won't they say?

Speaker 10 (22:41):
He is?

Speaker 12 (22:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (22:42):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Indeed, all right now, Mattarella and he signed how much
autonomy regionally? What do you get for that?

Speaker 17 (22:51):
Well, this is something that the wealthier right wing led
regions of Lombardy and Veneto up in the north of
Italy have been pushed for. They want more control over
how they tax their residents and how that money is
spent over services such as health and education. It's an
unusual thing in Italy to see that kind of division.

(23:13):
Although we have some regions, like around Bolsano, they have
their own deal, but this is seen as something that's
very divisive and is unfair to the poorer southern regions
of Italy. It's been passed by the President tonight. I
don't know if that gives any room for the MPs
that oppose it to push for a referendum, but might

(23:34):
be too late for that. But it's certainly a victory
for the right tonight.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Good stuff, and then we got the Vetican going going
solar powder, So so where are all the panels, for
goodness sake, are they on top of the dome? It's
early days.

Speaker 17 (23:46):
The Pope has just announced construction of a plant, plans
for a solar powered plant at a site on the
edge of Rome. We know the Pope is very big
on climate change and saving the planet. How big is
the Vatican State. It's one of the smallest, if not
the smallest, in the world. So we're only talking about
a few hundred people that live inside the Vatican. I'm

(24:08):
not sure it's going to make a big difference, but
he thinks it's important.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Do you have solar power at all in Italy? And
what do you do when sola?

Speaker 10 (24:15):
What do you do?

Speaker 17 (24:16):
You would think that there'd be a lot more since
we have so much sun. We tend to see a
lot more of wind of farms popping up all over
the place rather than sola. I think Italy could really
do a lot more with that.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
By the way, exactly where are you going on holiday?

Speaker 17 (24:32):
I'm off to Croatia for a week, first time, never been.
Lots of swimming and lots of sun.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Now tell me why you're going because everybody says it's beautiful.

Speaker 17 (24:42):
I'm a keen swimmer and I do swim tours, so
we get up every day and we swim. So we're
looking to go to a bunch of islands called the
Kornati Islands off the coast of Zada. Yes, and I
don't know much about it, but I'll tell you more
when I get.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You go on a swim tour. So it's a gro
for people. You don't know these people. You just turn
up in a cup of whatever and you jump in
the water each day and you just swim in different areas.

Speaker 17 (25:06):
Yeah, you have a lot of support and it's lots
of fun and you've got a support boat there to
make an keep an eye on it.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Like a depotion swimming.

Speaker 17 (25:15):
It's open water swimming. I wouldn't say deep, but coastal,
close to the coast.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Fantastic And of course the forecast at the moment is sensational,
isn't it.

Speaker 17 (25:25):
Yeah, looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Good on you go well, Joe. Joe mckennethy, who was
in Italy this morning, I've got family members heading to
her part of the world in the next couple of
weeks as well. I'm not going on. I'm here, but
I love being here, really love being here. Ten minutes
away from seven.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
The My Costing breakfast with Biley's real estate news talks.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
They'd be got an update only and laws in this morning.
Gave you the update yesterday. The hot rumor of the
week has been he's off to hears and helmet. Mark
has been talking overnight. He's been talking to Klein Zakdung
in Austria. The shareholders have made it known that it
is a junior team and we have to act accordingly.
So what he's saying there is that RB which is

(26:11):
one of the teams, he's a reserved driver before he's
a reserve driver for Red Bull and RB being the
second team, the team designed to feed through younger drivers,
which is the great dichotomy that many people have around
Daniel Riccardo. He's not a new and up and coming driver.
What the hell is he doing there? Sonodors? So what's
Ricardo doing there? And as he says Helmet Marco, the

(26:31):
goal was that Riccardo would be considered for Red Bull
with exceptional performances. That seat now belongs to Perez, so
that plan is no longer valid. We will have to
put a young driver in there soon. That would be
Liam Lawson. So under normal circumstances, that's extremely exciting because
once upon a time, Helmut Marco what he said went Unfortunately,

(26:54):
today isn't Horner's grabbed the power. Helmut Marco is still
part of the mix, but not the same mix that
it used to be. Horner for reasons best known to himself,
as in love with Ricardo, So I said, has I
was wrong? Saba Saba, which will become Audi is where
Lawson was allegedly going. They're waiting for Carlos signs. They
want Carlos signs. If they can't get Carlos signs, they

(27:15):
might take somebody like Lawson signs now is allegedly, I
don't know why expected to sign for Williams because William's
got a long way to go before they get to
the front of the grid. Anyway, maybe signs will make
them get there. But anything from Helmet Marco helps and
if it means obviously there's a bit attention within Red
Bull and they know that the clock is ticking and

(27:35):
they know they need to do something. So there's a
fresh song there. So that's exciting and potentially it works
out well for Liam Faman. It's away from seven, all.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
The ins and the outs, it's the fizz on the
Mike Husking Breakfast on News tog zed B.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Streaming numbers versus traditional TV. It's a Nielsen monthly report
called the Gauge Media Consumption. What do we know? This
is out? Is this global or America America? YouTube made
up nine For May. YouTube made up nine point seven
percent of ble viewership on traditional tellies, which is the
largest share of TV of any streaming platform ever nine
point seven percent. Netflix at seven point six percent second.

(28:12):
Other streaming came in third with five point nine Amazon
beat Prime or Amazon Prime beat out the likes of
Disney Plus and HBO, Max TV As a whole, streaming
sites on your TV now make up thirty eight point
eight percent of all viewing. This of course doesn't include
your phone. I watch YouTube on my phone, which is
not on my TV, very rarely watch YouTube by my TV.
Cable twenty eight, broadcast channels twenty two then are smattering.

(28:37):
Others make up the rest. So just think about that,
the streaming followed by cable, followed by the broadcast channels,
linear television. That's dead in the water. It's dying right
in front of your eyes. Among streamers only, YouTube takes
out a huge chunk of twenty five percent of the
market share. Each day, one hundred and fifty million Americans.
It's about roughly half of Americans watch more than a
billion hours of YouTube on television. Isn't that depressing? It

(29:01):
shows in YouTube's financial results. So last year they took
in thirty one and a half billion in AD revenue,
which was up eight percent on twenty twenty two. Funnily enough,
speaking of YouTube, I watched A week in the Life
of Charlotte Claire. Speaking of one and a weekend's life
wasn't that interesting. He was in Japan, he was in Australia,
he was in Bali, and he does quite a bit
of it. I don't know who cuts up with social media,
but he went from Australia, this was the Melbourn Grand

(29:21):
Prix up to Bali for a holiday. Seemed to muck
around a lot in Balley. Didn't do a lot of training,
a lot of exercise, didn't do any of that. Went
to Japan, played some video games. I thought, what an
odd guy here is playing video games in Japan. Couldn't
get a taxi because the language was a bit of
a problem. I don't know, but that was the last
thing I watched on YouTube, Charlotte Clair's Week and the
irony being because that week was so boring. I probably

(29:42):
won't watch another week. So the justice system, what are
they looking to do?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Put more criminals away, will at work more?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Shortly the breakfast show you can try us the Mike
Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently
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Speaker 2 (30:00):
In past seven's have changed. Coming to the courts in
our justice system, sentencing discounts will be capped at forty percent.
New aggravating factoris that are in play to address offenses
against soul charge workers people like dairy owners. Judge is
no longer giving repeat discounts for youth or remorse and
a victim's interest must be taken into account now. The
convenor of the Law Societies Criminal Law Committee, Chris Macklin's
with us on this. Chris Morning, Good morning thoughts.

Speaker 18 (30:25):
Oh well, look it's early days. You say those things
are coming, and of course they are. They do still
need to go through selectmmitty. The signal is clear that
tougher sentences are coming. Quite whether that achieves exactly what
people want will be the yesid test, and that will
be reducing people's experience of crime. There's a worry that

(30:49):
some areas of ascending might be less accurately reported as
to the fair I think there's a concern about undermining
restorative and replative purposes and the profession it probably needs
to highlight as well that the extent it can. It's
by no means clear that tougher sentences to effectively some

(31:09):
of the crimes are talking about.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I take them from your comments. You guys are against
it or worried about it.

Speaker 18 (31:16):
Look, I wouldn't say worried. The profession simply wants, as
a matter of principle, for those making these policies to
be aware of some of the limitations in society's role.
Here is just to say, look, this is where the
government is going with its mandate, so be it to
some extent, but it would be remiss not to highlight

(31:36):
some of the grave concerns that those that the cold
face have about unintended consequence.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
How far down the track are we discretion the prescription.

Speaker 18 (31:46):
That's a really interesting one, and we're moving slowly towards
being more prescriptive, but there's still discretion afforded. I noted
in the reforms that have been tabled at the Hardcat
in terms of discounts has been removed and there is
still discription in terms of that praising menacedly unjust. So

(32:07):
we're not entirely prescriptive on any front. Yet, it's just
a small step towards being more prescriptive, signaling I think
to the court the expectation of Parliament rather than prescribing
an outcome.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Would you expect pushback from judges on this, Look, I'm.

Speaker 18 (32:26):
Not certain That's probably a question for the judiciary, and
one that even struggled to answer themselves, because they do
earnestly try and sentence people individually on a case by
case basis. So I'm not sure that there'll be pushback
so much as judges doing nearly will best to apply
whatever comes out the other end of select committees and

(32:48):
the legislative process as fairly as possible as they see it.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
In particular case, let's talk again when the law has passed.
Chris pushed it very much. Have a good weekend. Chris Macklin,
a convener of the Law Society's Criminal Law Committee, speaking
of which, ten minutes past seven at a bit of
this this morning, mic of Golders get to discharge without
conviction today. What message does that send to would be
criminals that committing a blatant crime at least three times
and then claiming post trauma means zero legal consequence as well.

(33:14):
Let's wait and see till the sentencing has been held
and delivered before we jumped to too many conclusions, shall we, right, weather,
Let's check in on the East Coast wirero specifically, we've
got the state of emergency, the evacuations, the multi multiple
orange warnings. The chair of the Wireroah Business Association, Sue
Wilson with us. So very good morning to you them,
aren't I do we greet you on a wet, miserable morning.

Speaker 19 (33:37):
Store rating quite heavily where we are at the.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Moment, and so what happened overnight, Look, it was pretty.

Speaker 19 (33:43):
Calm, the river was store flowing. High tide was at
around nine o'clock and we've got another high tide later
on this morning. So hopefully the weather will come down
a little bit and we'll see this rain.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Any assessment of the damage so far calls to businesses
and homes and so forth.

Speaker 19 (34:05):
Look, the majority of our main street businesses we're not
affected this time. However, there are a number of other
businesses that have been hugely impacted and it's going to
be some time before they're up and running again, and
we really are feeling for them. We've got, you know,
some agricultural businesses that are affected. Had two major angus

(34:30):
bull sales that were meant to be held this week.
There's going to be huge impact for them. Yeah, So
it's ongoing and I look counsel doing a great job
and they'll be talking to businesses as they've got.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
That's the vibe I got right up the East coasts
there that the response this time was we learned from
last year, we did it better this time. Is that fair?

Speaker 10 (34:51):
Absolutely?

Speaker 19 (34:52):
Yep, there's been lots and people were prepared to Talking
to a couple of business Association members, they were prepared,
their staff were prepeed. Even though there was powered as yesterday,
some of them got by. So that's really good to hear.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Good to hear, Sue, go well this weekend, we're thinking
of you, Sue Wilson, Chair of the way Rower Business
Association twelve and it's past seven. Like I'm going to
do Brovnick in ten weeks if you missed it, Joe mckenner,
they're telling correspondence going to Brovnick for the second time.
I'm not a swimmer, but it's most beautiful part of
the world in the must visit, yea, everyone says. So
Rod stewartsun got married there the other day and it
looked absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
How is it?

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Mike the masm oh I love a good MESM text
day on a Thursday and of a long weekend. The MSM.
The mainstream media is so silent when it comes to
the greens investigation in Tatana, are you taking the piss mate?
Are you honestly wake up and get off telegram Pale
and tune into this program. No one has been more

(35:50):
on the Tanner investigation than this show. Don't insult me
with your dumb, dumb texts if you've got no evidence.
And furthermore, I know with the great deal of interest
that Bryce Edwards he's got on to it as well
and is quoting us extensively this morning. Are his article
his summation? I shall come to shortly thirteen past.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
The Mike costing Racist Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
The simple truth is the public is safer when criminals,
especially violent ones, are locked up. It's about public safety,
not criminal feelings. I tend to agree with that. There
are some people who simply, I mean, if you're watching
the television last night, some five ozho one had killed
somebody and he had a meth problem, and you know,
is he going to get rehab? No, Mike, the goal
was sentencing was delayed until thursd I'm not on social media,

(36:32):
so I'm just asking you this question. Is this the
go to conspiracy theory of the week on social media?
The goal is sentencing was delayed until Thursday afternoon before
a long weekend. Is that what everyone's saying is that
the buzz on the Facebook chat whatever the hell do
you call it? Sixteen past seven Now the old food
Wasted chargument is back. We're throwing away three point two

(36:53):
billion dollars some food every year. Governor being issued twenty
seven recommendations to reduce the waste, including formulating a national
plan of back and a reduction target. Now, the executive
director of New Zealand Food Waste Champions, Caitlan Dawson, is
with this Caitland morning to you.

Speaker 15 (37:08):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Do you reckon? We're ever capable?

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Quiet introduct Well.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I'm figuring if you're going to call yourself instead of
calling yourself New Zealand Food Waste you know, Incorporated, and
you're going to throw Champions on the end, it deserves
a bit of bit of.

Speaker 20 (37:20):
Umpha and absolutely I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Good on you. So how do we get around this
because this is not new three point two but it's
billions every year, has been for years, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 20 (37:30):
But I will just say that that number you're talking
about is actually just at the household level. So that's
not the amount of food waste that is occurring up
and down the supply chain from farm to fork. That's
just what we waste at household. So it's a lot
more money than three point two billion.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I reckon if we actually got our act together, we
wouldn't have a cost of living crisis, would we Because
it seems we have no money and yet we can
throw three billion dollars worth of food away.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 20 (37:56):
And so food waste is really it's a system problem,
and we've never taken a system view. We've had quite
a focus on household, like you've just been talking about,
and so these reports are providing us with the evidence
to tackle it in the system way. And so what
I mean by that is that you know, there's waste
on farm, there's waste in manufacturing and retail, and often

(38:19):
decisions that are made at one of those stages affect
waste in another part. And so, like you've just said,
food waste is costed in at every single part of
the food system. And so if we just look at
it in that way and get everyone pulling in the
same direction, we'll actually be able to shift the dial.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
How much is not our fault. I buy four bananas,
one turns out to be a bit dodgy. I throw
it out, so that this sort of wasn't my fault,
or it was my fault, you know what I'm saying.
It's not like I buy a big roast, I only
have one meal there or four others and I think, oh, well,
it can't be bothered. It's in the bin.

Speaker 11 (38:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (38:53):
I mean, so much of what we do at home
is impacted by what we see on the retail shelves
or what we see on the packaging. And you know,
you might be buying four bananas because we'll probably not bananas,
but you might be getting two for one specials and
that kind of thing, which seems like a good idea
at the time, but then when you get home, you
actually don't need, say two heads of broccoli. So sure,

(39:15):
there are mechanisms that are in place that might influence
waste at home, and I wouldn't say it's necessarily anyone's fault.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
It's just a behavior that's that's.

Speaker 20 (39:24):
Kind of baked in. Just like in business processes upstream
and manufacturers, the processes are baked in and it's not
even identified until they start measuring or looking at it,
which is why these sorts of directives are so integral.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
I've enjoyed talking to you. You have a great weekend.
We'll talk next year, Showy. Caitlin Dawson, executive director of
the New Food New Zealand Food Waste Champions. Mike, my
fascination with Labor and the Greens is when they're doing
things that they're not supposed to be doing. They've got
radio silence, but then you guys allow them to be
on the station when they're trying to get votes. What
a very good point. I actually think I'm going to
ban these clowns. I think I think we're going to

(39:59):
ban the Greens for the election campaign. I'll get myself
in trouble because it's against the rules. There are rules
in a certain part of the election campaign that you've
actually got to give some balance. I gave up on
balance years ago. What a waste of time balances. Speaking
of which, the BSA are issuing a report that involves
me today. I cannot say anymore because it's embargoed, but
it's a very good read. Seven on My cost Your Breakfast. Now.

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Speaker 5 (41:35):
It is unprecedented that so many nuts were removed at once.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
If you make it up, they wouldn't believe you. The
fairy three.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
I think it's time we had a lot and see
if there's a Toyota Corolla that might be able to
do the job.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
A little bit more believable given the track record leading up,
but still no less depressing the worries one.

Speaker 12 (41:53):
Sixty six points to.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Six, almost as bad as taking too many nuts. It's
out exports eight. Oh, yes, as high season, and yes
we set a lot of stuff this time of year.
But a record's a record, and given circumstances, will take that.
The TV one pole seven yet another reminder that no
pole is actually that important given the methodology means it's
open to a fair bit of variation. You take one
pole too seriously, you might run the risk of him

(42:18):
making a fall of yourself.

Speaker 16 (42:19):
Auckle up braceful impact free fod bang may day plummeting
a nightmare. Is the honeymoon period over this pole will
absolutely rock the entire parliament.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Far Mac seven because on balance and I you promise
that was broken got rectified in a pretty impressive way
and a lot of people get the help they need
because of it. The debate eight.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Jack him up on mountain dew or whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
So much is on the line. It's the first in
so many ways. And can you really rule out the
use of mountain dew? Juliana Sange Six On balance, probably
Fairies a crook, he served jail time, he endangered a
lot of people. The debate over that or whether he's
a hero, will never settle. At the cases, Thank the
Good Lord, agree to disagree.

Speaker 11 (42:59):
Six The Hoskins quote my words.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
A refreshing example of how the Coalition agreement might actually
be a proper template. Are the UK votes seven I'm
gripping at in a year of democratic exercise, this is
one of the more interesting ones this time next week,
a little bit of history is going to be unfolding.
Jet Star six good week. I'm not sure about Ken's personally,
but more domestic choice is always a good thing. Fast

(43:25):
track Poul six.

Speaker 14 (43:26):
Gone are the days of the multicolored skink.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Proof that a little bit of common sense is actually
what a chunk of New Zealanders want and maybe the
media can reflect more of that instead of seeking out
the moners all day long. The mary Ward Bill six
more common sense, backed by the majority of New Zealander's
cops on the beaten boot Camp. Second, I'm sick of it,
Kiwi's a sick of it? Stop it more common sense.
We're seeing some momentum at last, the announcements into real

(43:51):
actual action. Scott robertson eate the era has begun. He's
originally straight up and down as successful. We like that
Marino seven. Now you thought large forgotten Last week we
said go by a Marino jersey and support the industry.
Did you I did? It is warm and beautiful and
soft and that is the week copies on the website.

(44:12):
And if you read this over the long weekend accompanied
by a glass of MacArthur's Ridge Southern Tour, are you
sleep better? Feel better? And indeed, after half a bottle
you think you look better as well. Pasking Mike, I
think Ricardo was given the seat to RB to help
teammates Sonoda, who's matured considerably. He's fast, consistent and reliable

(44:32):
things in part of Riccardo's guards. That's probably true. But
the main thing was, of course, to shake up Perez.
They've given Perez the job. It's time for Ricardo to
move on. That aforementioned wine by the may of the
MacArthur Ridge Pino Southern Tour, one best wine and show
at the Decanta Wine Awards. If you missed that story
and wondered what the hell I was talking about? Won
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(44:53):
the most influential wine awards in the world, and yet
again New Zealand wine in this case specifically pin and
Wire boxing a mile above the away met Tyrrel, who
was Marca Rubio's chief of staff. He's with us shortly.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
The news Bold opinions the mic asking breakfast with our.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Veda live the age you feel news togs.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
End keeping an eye on the debate. This is Sonic v. Starmer,
of course, which is underway as we speak, final of
two debates. The second of two debates. The beating scandalot
brought up early. They both bettered them away, given them
both involved, of course, not specifically, but generally with the
party saying look, it's under investigation. What more can we do?
They've moved on to how to get money into Britain.

Speaker 14 (45:37):
Yes, it is absolutely right that we want to get
in investors to come alongside that government money. And we've
been talking you won't be surprised to eye this to
global investors for the best part of two years to
say that if we put down this money set out
in our manifesto, will you come alongside it and put
down many more billions of pounds so that in part

(46:00):
ship with the government, we can make the change that
we need.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
No, let me just finish this.

Speaker 21 (46:05):
I'm trying.

Speaker 22 (46:05):
Am I going to come back to the I'm going
to get to hundreds of Just be straight with the
how many hundreds I'm going to tell I'm going to
take the question is.

Speaker 14 (46:18):
It four hundred? I think the Prime Minister that's what
the best hour of the times is going to interrupt me?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Right, So the moderator is not doing a very good
job and probably one of the reasons why they've got
the rules in the American debate for tomorrow, which we
will come to in a second. It's being held in
the town hall. Probably an audio mistake given the echo,
but the noise in the background also was there's a protest.
So you've got a town hall, you've got a moderator
who's not doing a very good job, and you've got
a protest in the background. So we'll see how that
goes in the next done hour or so. Twenty two

(46:44):
minutes away from h speaking which history of being made
tomorrow afternoon, of course, on the stage Joe Biden v.
Donald Trump, they face off for the first time head
of November, first time this time, of course. Former chief
of staff for Marco Rubio Matt Terrell is back with
It's Matt, very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (47:00):
All right, great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Not at all. I'm excited. Are you excited?

Speaker 21 (47:07):
If exciting times? You know, we got this debate coming
up tomorrow and the election is just a few months away.

Speaker 10 (47:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
As far as the debate is concerned, does it Michael Brike,
Can it Michael Brake or not?

Speaker 21 (47:22):
You know, I think if these candidates both have strong
performances or relatively solid performances tomorrow night kind of meet
or exceed expectations, probably not going to change the race
too much. But if one of these candidates has a
bad night Tomorrow night, does not meet expectations, then back
to likely change it. You're going, you know, the course

(47:44):
of the race. So look, it comes down to both
candidates have to perform well. If they do, probably not
going to change the race too much. But candidate has
a bad night Tomorrow night putting me for President Biden,
that could change the course of the campaign.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
That's basically the crutch of it, doesn't it. Everyone's going
to say, cannonight, one year old, handle the pressure and
look like he can last the distance still in that avam.
But that's what it boils down to, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (48:07):
He certainly has to show present. Biden certainly has to
show up tomorrow night with energy really kind of alleviate
some of those questions are out there, both among voters
and even members of his own party as it comes
his ability to perform in the job as president. And
that means he's going to come with that energy, with
that stamina more or less, you know, the same energy
and stamina he brought to that State of the Union

(48:28):
address just a few months ago. He's got to bring
that to tomorrow Night's debate as well.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Having watched that, Having watched that particular speech, I couldn't
believe it. Do you subscribe in any way, shape or
form to the Mountain jew theory, the you know, enhanced
drugs theory, the behind him in a cabin and pump
them up theory at all or not.

Speaker 21 (48:47):
I'll leave those questions at the White House and President
Biden to answer. But look, you know, it comes down
to at the end of the day, performance as americanise debates.
But also you know, look, I think both candidates going
to have their strategies. For President Biden certainly got to
bring energy. For For President Trump, I think it's folks
and the policies demonstrating steadfast leadership and really focus on

(49:07):
inflation and immigration. Those two main issues I think you'll
likely to see foreign President Trump really narrow in on
direct tomorrow night's debate. Those are two issues that are
really top of mind, particularly for those independent undecided voters
at Foreign President Trump and President Biden as well need
to win over.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
And what about Biden on abortion? Are they praying that
to major.

Speaker 21 (49:30):
Well, look, that's certainly an issue I think President Biden
particular will we'll bring up during the debate. I think
there's no question on that. But I think for foreign
President Trump, you know, if you look at the issues
where he's doing well and outperforming President Biden is on
the economy, inflation, immigration, and look, you know, the issue
of abortion. That's going to energize the political basis on

(49:51):
both sides of political issle. But at the end of
the day, this elections have come down to roughly three states,
just a handf of independent undecided voters. What do they
care about a lot of issues, but top of mind
for them are immigration, inflation, the economy. The candidates who
can win on those issues and the candidates that win
this race.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
You think the rules are going to kill up Microsoft nwadience,
couple of d brikes, etc.

Speaker 21 (50:14):
It's a different format, and certainly for form President Trump,
you know he's used to having kind of that rally approach,
the big crowds. In a different format for both of
those candidates, We'll see who that helps or hurts. I
think at the end of the day, it's going to
come down to how do these candidates really do they
meet the expectations or exceed the expectations that have been
laid out for them. That's the folks that be watching

(50:35):
for throughout this debate, and I think finally talking about
the future. This election, like all elections, are now going
to be a referendum on the incumbent office, President Biden,
about the future, the candidate who can really demonstrate and
leave this country forward into the future, partic on the
issue of inflation, immigration, That's what those independent on the
side of voters you've got to win over in this race,
That's what they're focused on.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I was reading a list of potential vps for Trumpey
allegedly as might up as mind and he just hasn't
told anybody yet. Your man Rubio was on it. I
don't know. I don't think it's going to happen. But
Ney of list, do you have a view on who
it should beg and doesn't matter?

Speaker 21 (51:09):
Well, certainly sound of Rubio is a very talented individual.
There's a lot of talented individuals that four prosident Trump
is looking at for that VP selection. You know, look
VP selection, vice president selection, it matters, it's important. So
they can help with pupping up the base, reaching out
to some of those independent on the side of voters,
helping with donations and fundraising, all the things that occur

(51:29):
with that, with that position on the ticket, on the campaign,
ultimately needs to be some of that foreign persident Trump
is comfortable with, not just campaigning with, but eventually if
he does win this race, governing with. That's just going
to matter. At the end of the day. It's foreign
President Trump's decision. But ultimately, you know, these vice president roles,
they don't really make or break these elections. They can help,
but ultimately it's the top of the ticket. Voters are

(51:50):
voting either for President Biden or four President Trump. Those
two individuals aren't have to win this race, not their
running mates, not their surrogates. It's I'm done at the
end of the day, and a race across the finish
line with the bakery.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
You're good man, appreciate it as always. Matt Yrel, who
is the Marca Ruby's former chief of staff with us
out of the States. This morning seventeen.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Too, the Mike Costing Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Mike have met on again and he's great. Yea, We've
had him on a number of times. It's fantastic. We
like morning Mike. Do you know when the Julian Genter
Front of Privileges Committee, it's today is our understanding question
of privilege concerning the conduct of a member during the
Committee of the Whole House that's coming at twelve thirty today.
Now Parliament is sitting question in time at two o'clock.

(52:31):
Of course, Rwanda has been raised in the debate. Michelle Hussain,
by the way, is the barbrator in this particular debate.
It was always going to come up Rwanda. Rishie sounds
like a man who is fighting for his life.

Speaker 23 (52:43):
You spent all this time when I first got this
job saying call an election, Call an election. Then when
we call an election, you spend all your time saying
why did you call it an election? This is about
the future. I can tell everyone what I'm going to
do with a legal migrants you come to our country,
they will be on planes, be sent away because they
shouldn't be here. What will you do with the illegal
migrants that arrive to the UK? What will you do
with them? You've had three weeks to think of an answer.

Speaker 10 (53:05):
What is it?

Speaker 14 (53:06):
We've got tens of thousands of people here who've come unlawfully.
The premister that says he'll send them all to Rwanda.
The Rwanda scheme takes a few hundred It would take
literally three hundred years to get all the people here unlawfully.
So they don't say what would you do? Would you
say at the moment, but what would they do with them?
We've got to process the club. You're sitting there with

(53:26):
tens of thousands of people, the legal migrants come to
our What will you do?

Speaker 23 (53:32):
What will you do with the legal migrants who come
from our country? What will you do with them? It's
a simple question. His plan is what do you do
with them? They need to be processed at the moment.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Process.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
There you go. That's a winder him. He's running the debate,
as it turns out, by the way, while we're on
the broad subject to politics and interesting things happening and
a fascinating will the Honduran president, former one Orlando Hernandez
Crook sentance two forty five years in prison this morning.
Eight million dollar fine. Somehow, I don't think he's going
to be paying that drug trafficking was the problem. He
denied the charges. Don't they always back in March, this

(54:06):
is New York. He was found guilty on three drug
trafficking charges. Memberi's president of the country. Extradited from Honduras
when the DOJ filed three drug trafficking firearms related charges
against him back in twenty two conspiring with drug cartels
during his tenure, moved more than four hundred tons of
cocaine through Honduras through to the States. In exchange, he
got millions in bribes that he used to fuel his

(54:28):
rise in Honduran politics. President between twenty fourteen and twenty
twenty two. And you wonder why that place isn't functioning
particularly well. Actually, while reading a very interesting piece, and
I got so interested, and I went and looked up,
went on YouTube again. I've been on YouTube a lot,
went and looked up. Who was this clown anyway? Zoomer's party.
He isn't, of course in government. He's back former judge

(54:48):
in South Africa. This is out of the South African
vote who was impeached. A former judge who was impeached
formist conduct four months ago has been sworn in as
a an MP. He's a guy called Holfee or halfee,
John Holfey. He's among fifty eight MP's in the MK party.

(55:08):
And you wonder, you know, Honduras is a basket case.
But I've often looked at South Africa and thought it's
got potential. But as long as you've got the crocs
running the place that run it in the A and C.
Although they don't have the outright majority, they used to
have enough power to still be in government. And then
you've got former judge I mean, you know, come off
some fairly easy ways to tidy yourself up. It just

(55:29):
appears I don't want to tend to await.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
The Mike hosting breakfast with.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
We'll give them the debate around infrastructure this past week
or so, what are a left to have a few
entrepreneurs about the place with news of something bold and progressive.
One hundred million dollar surf park in Auckland's been given
the green light. Full precinct in Dairy Flat got a
wave poll at its heart. You got a farm to
table restaurant, accommodation of the high performance facilities. There's a
data center, renewable energy. So John Kerwin is one of
the partners, and listen he's with us morning.

Speaker 15 (55:56):
Mate, Mike.

Speaker 10 (55:58):
I'm I'm going to take you surf. I going to
have you surfing, like in about a month.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
You'll be out there for entertainment purposes. Only I can
assure you how long has this been in the pipeline.

Speaker 10 (56:09):
The boys first contacted me about four years ago. Now,
I mean the wavepark sort of boom has taken off
around the world. You probably remember seeing Kelly Slater's wavefall,
but Kelly's was you know, Kelly's is probably not as
expensive as commission, not viable because can't produce enough waves.
So these waveparks produced a thousand waves, a thousand waves

(56:33):
an hour and you can do you know, sort of
teen fifteen different settings. So we've probably been a year
in the consent. We went for fast track consenting, which
which was really interesting and yeah, so it's been going
now for probably three years as concept and money and
then a year for consent. So just absolutely stoked. Yesterday

(56:55):
we've been out to the you know, to Dairy Flat,
spoken to the community. We've got another meeting with them
next week. They're really excited.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Good. It's just when you talk about the money, the
international money. Is there international money coming in for good ideas?

Speaker 10 (57:10):
Yeah, there'll be a little bit, but probably more New
Zealand money. You know, we'll now start to raise some
money to pay for it. There's a little bit of
overseas money. The Aventur, the overseas companies run by New Zealander.
So we'll be looking to raise some money for some investment. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Sure, don't need to be more than just a wave park,
did you need? You know, obviously going to have somewhere
to meet the hotel I find interesting. The data centers
a stroke of genius. So you've got a data sent
to eats up a lot of power, creates a lot
of heat that'll heat the water. All of that's clever.
So you put all these pieces together, I.

Speaker 10 (57:44):
Think you have to. Now is it a thing like this?
For me? It's about community. So what does the community
want now? They want somewhere you know, just can't be
for surfers, you know, although there's fifty four thousand surfers
in Auckland alone. So the data center makes it sustainable.
We're very keen to try and put a solar farm
up there as well, try and make it as off
the great as possible. You know, if Mike, if I

(58:06):
take you to surfing, you know, maybe our beautiful wives
will go to have dinner while we're having a self
you know, it's got to be for the community. So
for us, it was sustainability, community.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
And fun, fantastic. So it's a destination in itself in
that sense. You build it, they will come because deary
flat for people listening around the country, you don't know
it's in the country is and there's not remotely near
the water at all.

Speaker 10 (58:34):
Yeah, exactly. And you know the thing with New Zealand
surfers as we all travel. You know, if you're an
Auckland surfer, you travel out to me, DOAI up to
it's charity places like that. So yeah, we think it's
a destination. We want to put you know this forty
on acres, so we want to put some bike tracks
up and just make it a real community center.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Super exciting. Go well this weekend, make good to catch
up as always brilliant ideas John Kerwin that opens in
twenty twenty seven is the thinking once aga again. I
bore you witness with my YouTube experience on Charlotte Clair.
Charlotte Clair went surfing in a water park. In the
video I watched and I was amazed to learn he's
not that good because you would think think about what
you need for surfing, balance, natural fitness, flexibility and agility.

(59:16):
Would an F one driver have all of those things?
Absolutely can he surf. No, So it's an acquired skill.
It's a very specific skill just goes to prove. Because
you're good at one thing doesn't mean you're good at
everything athletically speaking, although Tim Wilson and Kate Hawksby undoubtedly are.
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the twenty twenty four albums the last album, followed by
the news that the last album will, in fact from
Chris Martin be twenty twenty five. So which is it?
Why doesn't anybody proof read anything anymore? Anyway? Moon Music
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you followed them, you know, they're on anico friendly world tour.
They plant trees all over the place. They've reduced their
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asked Julian Assange. They're reducing their emissions by fifty nine percent.
They've perform Feels Like I'm falling in Love live for
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Headed Andy the Week interview with two Degrees bringing smart
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(01:01:59):
Tim Wilson hawksby will us, Good morning to both of you.
Here you go, how going? I'm going? Good? Tim? How
are you going?

Speaker 11 (01:02:08):
What's wrong with a bit of energy? You can't be
the one that schmucked heads all energy?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Sounding like you're leaning on a fence. Pase am I here?

Speaker 11 (01:02:15):
Actually you know what? I'm standing by a rubbish bin
at our school Martariki celebration. So I'm just outside. Everyone's
hereon's gobbling fried bread and having a good time. But
I'm out here doing the hard yards with you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Lovely, it's not hard yards, it's a joy and a blessing, Timothy,
always remember that.

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
Absolutely, No, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Here's the news I've got for you this morning, Catherine. Yes,
Joe mckinna. Did you hear Joe mckinna earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
On Yes, she's up on a swimming tour.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Okay, good. So I'm thinking we've got interesting people on
the program, and do interesting things lead interesting life? So
Joe goes on swimming tours. I've never heard of such
a thing, but God bless her for doing so. Into Brady,
who's our British correspondent this morning. Guess what he does?
What he runs marathons?

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Oh yeah, no, I didn't know that here, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Joe's on swimming Kate hawks interesting? Oh yeah, oh no.
It's challenging your body, it's living the dream, it's pushing
yourself to the limit. It's all that sort of stuff.
So Kate Hawk's you were what do you bring to
the table?

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Well, I put up with you and your Friday morning. Yes,
it's a marathon and stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:03:24):
Absolutely, Kate Breacher.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Okay, and Tim you bring.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
What I bring?

Speaker 11 (01:03:30):
What I'll ten hundred press ups to day?

Speaker 10 (01:03:33):
What do you bring?

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
You're still doing one hundred?

Speaker 10 (01:03:35):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
I'm so proud of you. That's a sense that you're
doing that one hundred. I know this bores everybody every
time we talk about it, but it's one hundred in
one go remind me or two fifty. That's absolutely Now
I bow down to you. My current regime by the
way of fitness and took to talk to tell them,

(01:03:56):
talk them through, Katie, my regime at the moment, and
what's doing for my weight in my life books?

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
What are you doing the bike? Your corner is the
day you left weight?

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:04:07):
Kicker kick go, oh you do.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Squad?

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, that's what I was leading to. Now now tell
tell me, tell me what the breakthrough news on thigh strengthens.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
It's a good indicator of longevity.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Boom, there you go, the thigh. And why is it
a good indicator longevity cap.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Well, because because back in the day when we lived
in the cave and we had to run fast from animals,
your thigh strinks was a good indicater with your surmise.
But more recently it's about stability and you're more likely
to not have a good health outcome if you end
up falling and breaking a hip in your old age.
So if you can stay stable and mobile and balanced

(01:04:51):
and not fall over, And a lot of that is
due to your five strength. You keep your thigh strong,
then you're less likely to fall over an into yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
There you go, Tim, so push. I'm rate for hearts fantastic,
your upper body strength and heart health. You need to
work on those thighs.

Speaker 11 (01:05:06):
Honestly, if I think about my thigh strength, I'm done.
I'm done. You know what, I might as well go
back on the dories.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
It's over exactly fried bread?

Speaker 10 (01:05:14):
What is that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I don't know what that is? Is that literally a
slice of white loaf tossed in butter?

Speaker 11 (01:05:19):
I don't know because I'm out here doing the reporting
and it's inside.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
It's almost like a donut, but not sweet.

Speaker 11 (01:05:26):
Yeah, I think I saw one travel past.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
You haven't lived you clearly neither have you ever been Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Do you put a sign? Can you do it with
a German? Rye?

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
I don't really dealt with rye?

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Chicky, little chicky, little kumrasado.

Speaker 5 (01:05:43):
Probably not a beautiful wildweare cumbrado? No, that shame?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Okay? Pop quiz Cadie. How many people? How many protesters
were at Seinfeld last night?

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yeah, I raised this earlier on the program, clearly caught
you out there. So when I raced it earlier on
the program, how many protesters were in christ your Seinfeld
last night?

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
I would have thought none because there were barely any in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Auckland one oh you go march you thank them for
paying so much money.

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
So we had none inside the venue. In Auckland they
had really really type security and the protestors were just
all outside, completely harm just leaving flags on events. But
we had no one inside. Did Christ have someone actually
pay it? Because it's like it's wine cheap. I don't
know why you'd pay all that money to just go
in and yell and get thrown.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Out because you're an attention seeking idiot or something like.

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
That, because freedom of the freedom of expression is expensive.
I know they're in the wrong place.

Speaker 10 (01:06:42):
How was he?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
How left? Now? If you left right now, rush to
the fried bread? Could you get back in a couple
of minutes?

Speaker 10 (01:06:50):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:06:51):
On the break I'll try and do it, but but
I'll have to trample a bunch of kids. Are your
responsible for the health? And say do it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Mike, you have lessings of butter and golden syrup on
fried bread. Mike, Mike, how have you not had any
fried bread before? I don't know. I think Katie's George
Foreman things in the shop. I don't know what's happened there, Mike, Mike,
what what's wrong with Katie? She doesn't seem as perky
this morning. Katie from the audience here, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Oh so funny? I just heard Tim Off here saying
it was like listening to an episode of the Castle.
You know what we call this results. My aunt goes, so,
what's this bread?

Speaker 10 (01:07:37):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
White bread?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Such?

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Fried bread?

Speaker 11 (01:07:42):
I've got I've got some actually, I'm holding at my hand.
Do you want to hear the noise inside?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Please do?

Speaker 10 (01:07:48):
Hang on.

Speaker 11 (01:07:49):
I'm going to show and bring you in live.

Speaker 15 (01:07:50):
Here we go, just right in the middle of it.

Speaker 24 (01:07:53):
Can you hear?

Speaker 11 (01:07:54):
Here we go? I'll say about two hundred cabs have
me adult, maybe fifty sixty adult? Absolutely, jampack, you know
right coming now, I've.

Speaker 15 (01:08:07):
Got I've got the fry bread.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I'm thinking that's that lost a little bit in translation.
That seemed like a fairly low level, low mood crowd there.
I don't know, some sort of sugar comba going on.
Put some in taste, some for us, don't see give
a review.

Speaker 10 (01:08:22):
Hey on?

Speaker 11 (01:08:24):
Okay, crunchy on the outside, bretty on the inside. It's
basically white bread that's been dumped in a deep ror. Okay, yeah,
enjoy right, I think I don't have I don't have
the butter or the maple syrup. Unfortunately, not quite what.

Speaker 10 (01:08:39):
It could be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
If McDonald's were to cut it up into six pieces
and put it in a box and call it a mcbread,
would you buy it?

Speaker 11 (01:08:47):
How much is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
It's three ninety nine, but I can upgrade you with
a big milkshaken. The cheap seats that Seinfeld fifty bucks?
What happened, Katie?

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
I don't know. I thought I was in the cheap seats.
They certainly weren't fifty bucks exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:09:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I think you've been ripped off by the way. You know,
the money you trans to Sam last week, the big
bucks for the coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
Coffee money.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Very interesting, very interesting story. So here's what happened. Andy
says about seven past day, says where's the coffee? Sam?
And that was such a good question to ask because
where is the coffee? So the money's been transferred. Kadi
worked this thing, so money's transferred, No coffee, So what
do you call that apart from a ponzi scheme?

Speaker 5 (01:09:32):
No, No, here's the thing, Sam, so mush that he
doesn't even check his account because he didn't even know
the money was in there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
That'll bit.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
So one of those people, like one of my sons,
which I'm constantly on about, you must check your accounts.
How can you live not knowing what's coming in or out?

Speaker 10 (01:09:48):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Good question. Hey, quick question for you, Tim. How many
times this week did aforementioned said son say, quote unquote, mum,
stop being a helicopter unquote?

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
No great phone number in his phone is just a
helicopter emoji exactly?

Speaker 10 (01:10:06):
Oh are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Here comes mama?

Speaker 11 (01:10:08):
Are you there's a there's a bit of sass in
this family. By the sound of it. You want to
hear some says from the Wilsons.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Give me, give it to me.

Speaker 11 (01:10:16):
Okay, So we've got this. We go to mess. We
wear these shoes right and nice mess shoes down uncomfortable.
There hard to put on.

Speaker 10 (01:10:23):
Wolfy.

Speaker 11 (01:10:24):
Wolfy rocks up wearing sandals on Sunday morning to our bedroom.
We look at him, He looks up at us. He says,
Jesus war sandals.

Speaker 21 (01:10:32):
He's got a point.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Well, I think he's argue with that fact. He's factually correct.
Apart from anything, Hey, tomorrow to am you going to
watch and relive your old days and your old job
and your old life. You're gonna watch Biden v. Trump.

Speaker 10 (01:10:44):
Oh it's like.

Speaker 11 (01:10:46):
Going to the stock cars, isn't it very much?

Speaker 24 (01:10:48):
Are you going to watch it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:50):
I'm picking Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, I'm going to pick Trump as well. I'm watching
Sonic and Starmar. This morning's Sonics killing him. So that's interesting.
And if you if you mix said in with the
the F one and I'll tell you something, you'll appreciate this. Today, Tim,
I'm having at lunchtime, I'm having lunch with my daughter
and dinner. I'm having dinner with my wife. And you
could not ask for a more perfect day. How lovely

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is that?

Speaker 11 (01:11:13):
That's the best day in the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
World, best day in the world. Fried bread or no
fried bread. Hey, Katie, do you want to have dinner tonight.
I actually hadn't arranged that part. Do you want to
have dinner to night?

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Yeah, of course I don't really want bread? Probably not great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
No, no, we won't go fried bread. Do you have
a lovely weekend? You too? Kate hawksby Tim Wilson, eight
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year other than Biden Trump? No, I'm not buying into

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the Biden think. If he blows up tomorrow, as in
like really everyone goes, oh my god, they'll then have
to roll him out. They can't now always talk about
you know, they're going to pull them and put gatherm
new cement and all that crap. It's all, it's all,
it's all conspiratorial nonsense. He would need to front up
himself and go folks. So I've had a look at
myself and I'm not up to it. So bye bye.
That's not gonna happen, though, Mike surely the best before

(01:13:01):
dates scam is the biggest problem with food waste. That
goes back to our discussion just after seven o'clock this morning. Yep,
people get a bit fixated with the old best before.
Best before does not mean it's off. So it's the
day after the best before. You can still eat it perfectly, safely,
or I've had been able to, and people get all
too freaky about it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:16):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Let's not forget New Zealand's white Burgundies that achieved greatness
at Decanta four Gold Medal. New Zealand, Shardonay, Saint Clea,
the Landing Askern and Esk Valley fantastic results. That's Phil
who works at the Landing Wines, which is fair.

Speaker 10 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
No, I'm glad I mentioned MacArthur Ridge. They were the
best wine and show, but obviously New Zealand and particularly
well in that particular part of the world. Speaking of wine, Mike,
did you see Kumu River twenty sixteen chardonnay served at
the The King Charles and the Eper of Japan. I didn't,
but I'm hoping it's the Matty Shardoney and that's the
sort of wine that served. But I mean to think
that that is that the highest table in the land,

(01:13:53):
and the king is offering a little bit of that
to the Emperor of Japan. That's fantastic, isn't I mean
that tells the New Zealand story better than anybody else. Mike,
the surf break in Monaco probably not the best, just saying, yeah,
the surf break. I hate people who quote Monica. You know,
I quote Monica. I got an email I mentioned it
the other day. Got an email from a bloke who
spent half the year in Monica and half the year

(01:14:14):
in New Zealand. I mean that's living, isn't it. Isn't
that living? Inde Brady is standing by, will give you
the wrap on the debate tonight as it's unfolding as
we speak. But Inde Brady in the UK after the News,
which is next your newstalgs.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I might have a coup unfolding as we speak. In Bolivia,
the current president, who is Louis sas a regular deployment
of troops taking place in the capital as we speak.
The former president Morales. He says the movement outside the
palace is a coup in the making. The commander of
the army, who's a guy called the Zeniga, he's there.

(01:15:03):
He confirmed the movement and said we are upsit by
the affront. Enough is enough. He talks of a text
on democracy without elaborating, so we'll keep our eye on that.
Also unfolding the debate between Starmar and snak Sonic fights
desperately to save it texts. Starmer seemed to get the
beast of this exchange.

Speaker 23 (01:15:24):
But I'm going to tell you, do not surrender your
family finances to labors.

Speaker 14 (01:15:28):
To let me address this directly, because the Prime mister
said he warned the country of out Liz trust and
the damage that she was going to go to our economy.
And then in the next breath he said, we must
unite behind her and support her. Why on earth which
unite behind.

Speaker 22 (01:15:44):
Someone that you you know what it's like, you know
what it's like to fall in behind a leader of
your party.

Speaker 14 (01:15:48):
But he's repeating the repeating the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
He's repeating the problem.

Speaker 14 (01:15:55):
He's said, two knights behind her she's one of his
candidates of his election and pitch to you seems to
be my predecessor, a Tory prime minister broke the country,
did huge economic damage. Please vote Tory.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Rush sheep and got it back when they started talking
about gender.

Speaker 23 (01:16:13):
This is about the courage of your convictions and principles, right.
I believe when it comes to these matters, sex means
biological sex. Of course, we should have compassion and tolerance
for people who are going through questioning that. But fundamentally,
when it comes to women's safety, women's only spaces, sex
means biological sex. For me, that is the only way

(01:16:33):
to make sure you can deliver the protections that Vicky wants.
And on this question, Keir Starmer, when one of his
own female MPs made that point a while ago, he
said that she was wrong, right, But I've been clear
with you. Sex means biological sex. You have to change
the Equalities Act to deliver the security of women's spaces
and women's services. That's what I believe the right thing

(01:16:53):
for our countries. We don't agree with that much, that's
why I will.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Then we came to closing statements.

Speaker 23 (01:16:59):
I understand and while you're frustrated with our party, with me.
I get it that this is not a by election.
It's a choice with profound consequences for you and our country.
And before you make that choice, think what a labor
government would mean.

Speaker 14 (01:17:18):
My message to you is simple. If you want your
NHS back, you have to vote for it. If you
want a growing economy, you have to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Vote for it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
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Speaker 24 (01:17:34):
Indeed invitings we uspning mate, Good morning micros.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And you too, Stama. The Rishi sunk this time next
week we're going to be voting the final debate. How
much weight do you place on the bike. Do you
think this is swinging things or this is a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 24 (01:17:48):
I look, if we believe the polls, I think it's
a foregone conclusion. I think Starmer is nailed on to
be the next British Prime minister. If soon acquare to win,
it would be the biggest political cock I could ever
imagine in European history. I mean, he is so far behind.
You're looking at twenty six twenty seven percentage points by

(01:18:08):
some polling. He's had a terrible campaign. Sumac there's been
no imagination, no idea, is no creativity, and pulling out
of D day and going home early just look terrible.
So look he's limping towards the conclusion. It does feel
like the end of an era. At the end of days.
Someone said to me the other day from inside the

(01:18:29):
Conservative Party, they're just wondering about what's left of their party,
how many numbers they can get. And the best possible
forecast for them now is one hundred and twenty five seats,
and that would Puss Stammer in with a majority of
two hundred plus.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
We must also remember, and this is not fair to say,
when you look at Reform Reform, of them particularly well
on the polls, but they won't win as many seats,
for example, as the Tories, and being a first past
the post system, a national number does not a local story, make.

Speaker 24 (01:19:00):
No So look, if you look at all the polling
for Reform, and I've been speaking to people at the
highest level in Westminster for weeks now, the feeling is
that Forage will get elected and it might just be
a party of one. He may have as many as five,
It could be five seats in Parliament for Reform. But
I think the big problem for the Conservatives is what

(01:19:22):
he wants. He wants to be leader of the Conservatives now.
He was asked a couple of weeks ago would he
consider a merger and he actually answered it and said no,
it'll be a takeover. And I think the Conservative Party
are running scared of him because he attracts the media.
He lands a punch and whether it's for right or wrong.

(01:19:42):
He's been praising Putin this week, which is terrible, and
yet he still seems to get no kind of flat
for it. In a way, he's almost like a politician
who can get away with you know, messaging murder is
the phrase I would use a media hat on a
very strange guy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
All right, So this time next week we'll leun start
to get an understanding what's going on. Maintime, Princess Ann
how's she doing?

Speaker 24 (01:20:07):
So not as good and not recovering as quickly as
we would have hoped, that's according to our husband. So
we still don't know what has gone on. You know,
this incident with the horse the other day. We were
told she wasn't riding, she was out walking. We don't
know whether her horse is run into her or whether
it's just someone you know where she's gone to kind

(01:20:28):
of pat the horse and its head is reared up.
The bottom line is she's still in hospital, still recovering.
There was a lovely Melia other night for the Emperor
and Empress of Japan who were in town visiting. She
was not able to attend that, and next week's trip
to Canada where she was meant to represent Charles that
has been called off. So difficult time for Anne, and

(01:20:50):
it's a shame for her because she is absolutely the
most favorite royal after Kate and the hardest working and
she has carried a lot of the work the last
two years when her brother and Kate have been obviously
under very severe health restrictions.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Exactly. I hey, listen, I was looking through the list
of people at Glastonbury this year, and no, I mean Coldplay,
I get and Shania Twain, I think, Sir and all
that sort stuff. But there seem to be a lot
of now names as far as I'm consumed, But at
least as far as I can work out, the sun's
going to shine.

Speaker 24 (01:21:21):
Twenty seven Celsius, would you believe?

Speaker 10 (01:21:22):
So?

Speaker 24 (01:21:23):
I'm in court in Ireland and I had a police
escort through the airport last night for reasons I won't
bore you with. And they said to me that Shania
Twain had arrived just before me. They were laughing their
heads off, Shania Twain and me in the same sentence. Look,
it's going to be twenty seven Celsius, it's going to
be sunny. There's going to be none of the headlines
of misery and mud and everything we've previously seen at Glastonbury.

(01:21:45):
So in all honesty, it's the kind of event my
children dream of going to. You could not pay me
enough end z dollars to set foot in Glastonbury. I'd
rather watch it on TV in my house with a
cold beer, my own bathroom, my own shower, my own freedom.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
I'm surprised you don't get a police ayscord everywhere you
go in in Cork. I heard some honking in the background.
Are you on the streets already? A night on the
town for you?

Speaker 24 (01:22:13):
Yeah, I'm just having dinner with a very old friend.
And I love Ireland. Everyone says hello and yeah. You
get the occasional honk of a horn and a high five,
a selfie request. I've wrought a marathon here in Cork. Actually,
last year, and it's a beautiful city. They call it
the real capital of Ireland, and it's not far off

(01:22:33):
the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
If I'm honestor right, I'll let you get back to dinner.

Speaker 10 (01:22:36):
Might you go well?

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Appreciate it very much. He seems to have run a
marathon everywhere in the Brady eight forty five is twelve
away from nine right, as I alluded to earlier on
in the programme, has finally got onto the Green Party problem,
and he writes a very good point the headline, if
you want to pick it up and read it this morning,

(01:22:56):
a Green Party needs to front up on fascicle his
word bicicle. Darlene Tana inquiry. It's time to call out
the Greens for their continued refusal to front on the
allegations of migrant exploitation involving one of their MPs. The
party appears to be dragging the chain. Do you reckon
one hundred and four days? One hundred and four days?
Surely the lawyer is cognizant of this and is becoming

(01:23:21):
personally embarrassed that this is unless, as I keep saying
at the conclusion, if the lawyer is able to go,
I couldn't believe what I found once I started digging.
What shambles, What a Pandora's box. They announced this back
in March fourteen. March fourteen, he quotes US News talks.

(01:23:43):
It'd be Mike Hosking spoke about this last month last month.
I speak about it every day, almost on this program.
I'm determined to be on top of this because there's
something here. Because at some point, and I can't remember
what day it was, we passed the point of no return.
If it had been quick, short and sharp, and they'd
go one had a bit of a look, are not
really anything to see? Or maybe there's a little bit

(01:24:03):
of this and a little bit of that, you know,
we would have been done by now. Something stinks last
month in the Turner case. It is not the questions
around her behavior and alleged treatment of people. It's the
approach the party's leadership has taken to getting to the
bottom of it. It's quite right. I like reading what
I've said. I think, actually that's quite good. Now I

(01:24:24):
reflect it, Yep, absolutely, I agree with myself. It begins
to look like the Greens are guilty of exploitation of democracy.
That's what Bryce is saying this morning. It begins to
look like the Greens are guilty of exploitation of democracy
and how can you argue with that? The update I
gave you this very weak as they went and had
a meeting with Jerry as In, the Speaker's officer, and
there's no more funding coming from them, so they're funding

(01:24:46):
it themselves. That doesn't make it right, It doesn't make
it better, It doesn't make it any more transparent, it
doesn't make it any less embarrassing. And for people who
are into allegedly transparency and the political process and honesty
in being up front, it's going to be amazing to
see them explain their way out of it. When you

(01:25:09):
reckon that will be I think we'll get through the
weekend and reconvene. No, I think nothing will have happened. Still,
turn away from nine.

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sent a short video of Glastonbury beautiful looking day, no

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mud in sight, and for once you're write what a
crap lineup, have a great day. I will Steve, thank
you very much here that the streets are there, Cyndy Lauper,
is there cold plays there? But I'm struggling beyond that.
But the weather is just absolutely glorious. I wish Jka
and company well as in John Cowan, But surf parks
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(01:26:47):
operating cost of the wave generation is significant and the
alternative for surface is free. At the beach, you can
only charge so much for convenience. Well, if you follow
the story, read the story, it's a good story. There's
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(01:27:07):
So they've thought that stuff through. So I think it's
going to work. Five away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Now to Kelsey Brothers done the first podcast overnight since
meeting Prince William. The other night, they made global headlines
of course the selfie with old Tea Swims and the kids,
et cetera. So what elegant way did they describe meeting
the future.

Speaker 25 (01:27:28):
King Hard to be a down to earth human being.
I would assume.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
I can't imagine, but came off that way completely very cool.
Taylor Roanor to be there to meet.

Speaker 25 (01:27:39):
Taylor, like Sea Taylor. I think they had already met before.

Speaker 10 (01:27:42):
Yeah, he was the coolest, he was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
He was so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Then they had a full English for the first time.

Speaker 25 (01:27:51):
I feel like I got to go beans and toast
after Jesse's strong endorsement from her husband, I'm MICHAELI Jesse.
I don't get the big deal about it. I've never
understand it's Yeah, it's what you think it is. It's
beans and toast.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
It's not bad.

Speaker 25 (01:28:11):
It's very bland.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
But that's not a full English. I mean, that's a
bunch of idiots. They had time to talk about Bill
Belichick's new relationship. Apparently there is one with a twenty
three year old former staffer.

Speaker 3 (01:28:23):
Belichick's a smooth operators his girlfriend.

Speaker 25 (01:28:26):
I must not go there, please Jesus Christ.

Speaker 10 (01:28:31):
He's killing it. See.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
This is the thing about podcasts that I just cannot
get my head around. I mean, they're moderately interesting, I get,
but it's just it's just babbel. Why you heard the show? Sometimes, really, honestly,
have you heard the show? Sometimes you gotta wonder, You've
got to wonder why money flows my way for this nonsense. Now,
if went over the weekend, they're in they're in Austria
and we got the Warriors. Do I need to mention

(01:28:54):
the Warriors? Should I mention the Warriors? I mean it's
bounced back timers, and I mean, you know how the
right Warriors right and get a sixteen sixty six and
then next team that you don't want to be the
team that they're facing this weekend. I'll tell you what,
There is a sharlacking coming their way. Debate tomorrow, long weekend.
I mean, what more do you want? Life is good?

(01:29:14):
Back on Monday, as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
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