Full Show Podcast: 27 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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save their industry. We've got a plastic waste problem now
the Chinese don't take our stuff anymore, but we are
doing something cool with kiwifruit waste. Doctor Lebe Weaver drops
by to give us all a health check. Joe mckenners
and the EU for us Rod does the mighty UK
pasking Tuesday morning, Welcome to it. Seven past six, so tomorrow,

(00:34):
of course Wednesday. The pressures on the new Reserve Bank
fill and Governor, although given it to a committee he
in theories more the messenger we have it is reported
increased calls for a fifty point cut. Now why are
because things are not flesh. A lot of commentary if
you read business results in the current reporting season, tells
us the recovery is underway. Things are looking better and

(00:54):
certainly we can see, for example, retail spending numbers produced
just last Friday for the opening quarter of the year
are up, and in some parts of the sector up
quite a bit. We've seen manufacturing expanding for several months
in a row. So those are your fact based statistics.
The other measures like confidence, we see drops, We see
people in the doldrums. But that's a vibe. I mean,
can you find people who are in the doldrums? Of

(01:15):
course you can. But does a vibe lead to a
lack of action or a lack of spend or do
we just say one thing and do another. We also
read a lot about this uncertainty. The uncertainty is, of
course Trump. Trump is increasingly seen as insane, and it
may well all end in tears, I mean, threatening Europe
one day, then delaying it all till July. Against this,
the Reserve Bank governor has to work out is it

(01:35):
twenty five or is it fifty points? If it's fifty,
does that gs all up? And out we go and
fire things up, and then the next thing you know,
inflation's sparked up. Does he go twenty five and hint
at another twenty five and maybe even another twenty five?
What does he say about inflation and it's uptick already
not just here but globally. Do we have the growth
to support any such uptick? Is the uptick driven by

(01:56):
actual activity or still people just putting up prices? As
somebody said, who on earth would want to be a
reserve bank governor? And our one isn't even under the
constant threat of being sacked. We do think the Good
Lord indisputably have an export lead recovery of sorts, meat, wine,
Can we fruit? They're doing the business, But that's over there,
I mean over here, We're still on a funk. So
what to do? Your move? Christian? No pressure? Then News

(02:20):
of the World.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
In ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Memorial Day in America, the Great Leader has been at Arlington,
laying wreaths, attacking opponents, and psychoanalyzing people. He's killing a.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Lot of people.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I don't know what's wrong with him.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
What the hell happened to him?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Right, he's killing a lot of people.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
I'm not happy about that.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Russian's not thrilled either with the assessment.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
It is unlikely that button has gone crazy.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Maybe also needs.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
To be checked.

Speaker 8 (02:46):
It's hard to say what's going on in his head.
I don't think he knows himself, so I wouldn't react
to all his statements. That's how it seems to me.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Speaking of leaders. Macron of France has been caught in
a viral moment that's probably worth looking up if you've
got time in Vietnam. Door plane opens and it looks
like he's in a fight with his wife, a bit
like her. He's trying to fend it off.

Speaker 8 (03:09):
We were squabbling and I was joking with my wife,
and I'm surprised by it, and it becomes some sort
of geoplanetary catastrophe.

Speaker 9 (03:18):
Everybody needs to.

Speaker 8 (03:19):
Calm down and should really focus on actual news.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
We'll have a look at it, see what you think.
In the Middle East, we've got more bombs.

Speaker 10 (03:25):
My little son, just a year and a half old,
was buried beneath it. My husband was under the rubber.
All our children were too. I didn't know how to
escape or whose blood was covering us. We couldn't tell
who the remains of the martyrs above us belonged to.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
In Britain, the Liverpool fans have.

Speaker 8 (03:40):
Gone off in it like sodas.

Speaker 11 (03:42):
At the beginning, it's been the atmosphere has been different.

Speaker 10 (03:45):
It should be all ready, to be.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
Honest with Yeah, I mean last time everyone when the
talking the title is just the best feeling.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
By the way, they've been one to stop using flaars
seventeen so far been injured. And then you've got the
annual cheese rolling competition with Blake wanted people.

Speaker 10 (04:00):
At the time set they're going to steal my title,
all right, but this is mine.

Speaker 8 (04:05):
I won't for this.

Speaker 9 (04:06):
I rest my life for this.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
It's my cheese.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah. Literally, people were also hurt there as well, by
the way, finally, once again in Britain, a Portsmouth woman
is trying to get the size of fast food Burger's decrease.
So back in twenty one, as in twenty twenty one,
she was eating a KFC stacker when she opened her
mouth to what dislocated a jaw. It cause muscle damage
led to arthritis. She had five operations, twelve screws later.

(04:31):
She can only open a mouth on her mouth might
drift a little brook. She's now wanting to send a
message to fast food chain saying she wants them to
reduce their size so others' lives aren't ruined like her.
So that's that's news of the world. And a lot
of injured palms at ninety yeah, so fifty percent for
Europe until oh wa, snow, we won't do fifty percent.
So it's fifty percent for Europe and I'm not even
looking for a deal. Oh hold on July night, we'll

(04:53):
put it off. So more shortly hasn't helped Bolbo, though
they've announced globally they're cutting three thousand jobs, mainly office
space jobs. In Sweden. That's fifteen percent of the firm's
total office based workforce. Twelve pass six.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
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Speaker 2 (05:17):
A good dose of soft diplomacy unfolding in Canada as
we speak. The King and Queen have arrived at the
invitation of the new Prime Minister. Of course, they will
hold a meeting and the King will give the speech
from the Throne to Canada's Parliament. First time a Monark's
done that in almost fifty years. It's expected to include
a defensive Canada's sovereignty in reference to you Know Who
fifteen past six, Spady Dollar taking money Day, am I

(05:39):
Wealth Andrew Callahad Good Tuesday morning to you.

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, it's fifty percent please, and I'm not looking for
a deal. But I'll hang on. It's off, so I
mean here we go again. Ah yeah, the.

Speaker 12 (05:49):
Never ending tariff situation. It's also I'm also referring to
its almost like the shifting sand scenario as well. So
you got this EU situation. Now that the EU, mike
is the US, this is the largest trading partner. But
in terms of negotiating a sort of a trade or
tariff deal. Yet the problem you've got here, at which
we all are aware of, is the EU, by its

(06:09):
very definition, is a union of nations. So garnering consensus,
negotiating with that model in the background, it's obviously complex,
and I suspect it is probably quite tortuous as well.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
But so slow negotiations clearly frustrating the US.

Speaker 12 (06:23):
So on the twenty third of May, President Trump slated
fifty percent tariffs. They were due to kick in on
Dune the first, so the ninety day pause was out
the window. But then almost immediately it's been revised to
the ninth of July. Now reportedly after a request from
European Commission President Ursula vander Layan. Now US has got

(06:45):
a public holiday, as you've referred to my Memorial Day,
so their main market is not trading, but in our
time zone and overnight.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
You did have US share market futures.

Speaker 12 (06:54):
They have reacted positively to the pushing out to the
ninth of July, so they're up one to one and
a half percent.

Speaker 9 (07:02):
You might recall, though, that the EU.

Speaker 12 (07:04):
Original tariff declaration on Liberation Day was twenty percent.

Speaker 9 (07:09):
So we're seeing this escalation and tension, right.

Speaker 12 (07:11):
But if you just look at this trade relationship, merchandise
trade DEFFER is of two hundred and forty billion, so
Europe buys less from the US than the US buys
from the EU. It's close to twenty percent of imports
into the US come from the EU, so this is big.
What is also relevant here, though, Mike, is there is
a services surplus of seventy five billion, which is the

(07:31):
US selling services to the EU, and I think that
could become a point of leverage from the EU.

Speaker 9 (07:37):
There are other areas that obviously.

Speaker 12 (07:39):
I think are going to come up, agriculture, as I said,
the digital services. I think they'll become prominent in the discussions.
So this isn't great for confidence and growth in Europe.

Speaker 9 (07:47):
But it's not the only thing.

Speaker 12 (07:48):
Because you've got the iPhone thing going on as well
with the possible twenty five percent tariff on iPhones not
made in the US. So we saw the Apple share
price fall on Friday night of three percent fall, so
Trump demanding manufacturing there. So we go to the voice
of reason in the administration, Scott Bessant. He said that
there are several large trade deals that will kick in
in the next couple of weeks. So this ninety day

(08:10):
pause is the end of June. That's going to gallop
at us pretty quickly, I would have thought. So this
is just further uncertainty, really, isn't there over the next
four weeks?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
All right, bring it back home the good news. Turners
are sort of like your main freight slash Briscos these days,
aren't that.

Speaker 9 (08:24):
Yeah, that's what I was going to That's exactly what
I was going to say.

Speaker 12 (08:26):
Make So it's starting to look like what Briscoes is
to to general retailing, Turners is to auto retailing. So, yeah,
the local reporting season kicked off yesterday.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
We want to highlight Turners Automotive group.

Speaker 12 (08:41):
They gave guidance on the result back in February. They've
announced the results a little ahead of that guidance. So
net profit out attacks fifty four point three million versus
guidance of over fifty three so ten percent had of
the previous year.

Speaker 9 (08:52):
Look that there are headwinds in auto retail.

Speaker 12 (08:55):
It's not easy, but they got a solid contribution from finance,
insurance areas. Highlights sort of robustness of their diversified business model.
Twenty nine cents per share dividend no specific guidance betweeny
twenty six. In their commentary, they refer to a slowly
recovering economy but also extremely.

Speaker 9 (09:14):
Challenging economic conditions.

Speaker 12 (09:16):
Look, they want to achieve a profit of sixty five
million by twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 9 (09:19):
That's what they said. They think they'll get there earlier.

Speaker 12 (09:21):
Mike, this is just a great story, as they say,
decade of sustainable growth, good lift in time over dividends.

Speaker 9 (09:27):
Company has done well.

Speaker 12 (09:28):
Shareholders have been rewarded thirty two percent lifts in sharecross I.

Speaker 9 (09:32):
Think over the last twelve months.

Speaker 12 (09:34):
And obviously full credit to the decision making team behind
the Tina from Turner's campaign because it has.

Speaker 9 (09:40):
Been a banger.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
It is a sensination. Now what are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (09:44):
So no trading in Dow Jones S and P five
hundred or NASDAC, so they fell sort of two thirds
of a percent or three to one percent on Friday night.
They will catch up tonight. No trading in the U
and the UK either, so nothing to report there. The
n I was up one percent yesterday, up three hundred
and seventy one points thirty seven thousand, five hundred and

(10:05):
thirty one. Shangho composite three three four six and I
real move there. The A six two hundred barely moved
eight three six one. We lost forty nine points to
the NZEX fifty, which is point thirty nine percent, closing
at twelve thousand, five hundred and forty seven.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
Key is a bit stronger over night.

Speaker 12 (10:19):
Points six one against the US, point nine two five
to Ossio point five two seven three Euro point four
four two five against the pound eighty five points sixty
seven Japanese.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
Yen goal's still holding up there.

Speaker 12 (10:31):
Three thousand, three hundred and forty one US dollars and
Brentkrude sixty four dollars and seventy four cents.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
That was Sterling name jomowealth dot co dot m Z
tasking up must have been wow now Kiwi property. So
they're into all sorts of things you'll know. But they've
done well as well. So you've got Lynn mal Sylvia
Park Vo Rental Inn comes up five percent. They're into this,
this bill to rent apartment businesses. They got a place

(10:58):
called Risido that renting up faster than they expect, eighty
five percent leased in under twelve months. So they're encouraging
net profit from a loss to a profit. Revenues up
as well. Can't argue with it. Use talks it be
six twenty.

Speaker 9 (11:11):
One, do it, to do it, to do it, to do.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
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Speaker 2 (11:24):
Speaking of property as we were, a mom to go
fun fact out of Australia. I'm reading this morning Sydney's
top tier towers. In other words, this whole work from
home things become a major issue all over the Western
world and the latest thing seems to be for companies.
If you want to get the top floor or one
of the top floors, say in circular key, you're paying

(11:44):
fifty year highs for rent, you're paying sixty percent more
to be up high to give you people of view
so they can come back in from home. Sixty percent
more than you are for a lower floor in Melbourne
it's eighty percent more. This is from CBRE. So if
you go Colin Street in Melbourne and you want to
flesh building up the high bits and you can say
come on everyone, come back in and you get a

(12:06):
beautiful view, you cannot. Apparently the demand they're queuing at
the door for top level officers lives in a place
like Shiftley Tower, which you'll probably know in Siddenly is
going at two thousand dollars a square meter, same building,
lower floor twelve hundred dollars a square meter. Just to
get people back and from working from home, we had
a six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Five trending now quit Chemist's warehouse Mayhem Maga sale on
now now.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
As we mentioned Memorial die in the States, the Trumpster
was at Arlington. He decided to onn preview next year
celebration of two hundred and fifty years as a country,
but also to make some stuff up.

Speaker 13 (12:39):
These extraordinary American heroes, in their immense and ultimate sacrifices,
they offer only the faintest limps at the infinite grace
we have received from all who laid down their lives
for America.

Speaker 14 (12:55):
Over the past two hundred and fifty years. We're going
to have a big, big celebration as two hundred and
fifty years. In some ways, I'm glad I missed that
second term where it was because I wouldn't be your
president for that most important of all. In addition, we
have the World Cup and we have the Olympics. Can

(13:17):
you imagine I missed that four years? And now look
what I have.

Speaker 13 (13:20):
I have everything amazing the way things work out. God
did that.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I believe that too, David.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's just pathetic.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
God did it.

Speaker 15 (13:41):
Anyway, he spent a lot of time saying how good
looking the survivors of the Fallen were? Did he Yeah,
he would single them out and make them stand up,
and he'said, good looking guys, aren't they?

Speaker 4 (13:50):
They're good looking.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Movies Memorial Day Weekend. Last year it was Barbenheimer or
was it the year before? I can't remember. Anyway, This
year at Stitch Possible, which is a very good example
of how you take something like Barbenheim or anything. I
can live with at Barbenheimer because you made that up,
but it sort of rings. Stitch Possible is just stupid.
So it's Lelo and Stitch they've opened to record opening

(14:13):
for Lelo and Stitch. Lelo and Stich's been around for years.
When the kids were little at home, they watch Lelo
and so it's been around for twenty twenty five years. Anyways,
back one hundred and forty five million opening for the
Memorial weekend. That's domestically one hundred and forty five million
top Gun one sixty. So for all the noise around
Top Gun at one sixty versus one forty five Leelo
and Stitch, you didn't hear any noise about Leelo and Stitch,

(14:34):
did you till just Tom cruise all over the place. Anyway,
The upshot is that it's a good Memorial Though weekend
and the movies need it badly. Yeah, Andrew mentioned Turners
will celebrate some more key we success. Todd Hunter runs
Turners and he'll be with us after the news later
on the program This Business of Crime and whether or
not Mark Mitchell's given instructions to the police will get

(14:55):
to the bottom of this as well. On the Mike
Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Hip you updated with this developing situation in Liverpool, they
were celebrating the wind, of course, and they were firing
off flea as anyway, a bloke has been detained and
he seemed to drive a car into a crowd. He's
a witness.

Speaker 16 (15:21):
We head all beeping and screaming and when we looked
up there was a black people carry out driving street
towards us. I me and my friend Francesca jumped up
the way and pulled their.

Speaker 7 (15:35):
Little girl out of the way.

Speaker 16 (15:38):
And then as it must have been going about thirty
miles an hour, and as it went past, we could
see all the windows smashed in.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
With leads of people chasing down the car.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Start with being breathed, rob little with us out right
clearly this morning, with more on that, we'll go to
Europe with Joe mckinna this morning. The other's business with
Macron If you missed it at the start of the show,
everyone's talking about it, so more on that shortly as well.
Meantime back here another good sign that you can run
a successful business even of times a peer a bit tight.
This is going back to Lord Andrew Keller who was
telling us a couple of months ago. This is Turners

(16:11):
of course record yet to march profits up seventeen percent.
Todd Hunt is the CEO of the business and as
with us, Todd morning.

Speaker 17 (16:17):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
So a decade of sustainable growth. What's your secret?

Speaker 17 (16:24):
Well, I guess it's many things in the end, but yeah,
I think, I mean, I think the formula we work
to provide a great environment for our people. They provide
a great experience for our customers, and the combination of
those two things should deliver a great experience for our shareholders.
And I think the formula is absolutely proven out and
will continue to prove out.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
How on the edge of the economy are you, in
other words, you reliant on the place doing well?

Speaker 17 (16:51):
Yeah, certainly, aspects of our business are. We had a
very tough first half in our auto business. We were
having to discount cars to keep going quite heavily. I mean,
similar things that you would hear from Rod Duke at Brisco's,
I think. But we do have some diversification in earnings,
so having the finance business and the insurance business alongside

(17:12):
the auto business does help provide consistency. But certainly the
second half for us was much stronger than the first half,
and we had all our business divisions reporting ahead of
the prior year in the second half, and.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
That second half is part of a recovery or not.

Speaker 17 (17:29):
I think it is a part of recovery. I would
say it feels to us like the economy is bouncing
along the bottom. I'm a strong advocate for the Reserve
Bank doing something meaningful today, and they need to. I
think Jared Kier is absolutely on the money when he
sees interest rates are still restrictive and we need to

(17:50):
stimulate the economy for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Okay, so you'd say fifty points absolutely Okay. When you
talk about your loan book expanding, I'm always interesting that
do people borrow to buy a car because they have
to or because they're bullish or a bit of both.

Speaker 17 (18:08):
I would say more because they have to. And we
put a lot of effort into making well, firstly, making
sure people can pay those loans back, and then they've
got some buffer to withstand some surprise event that may
cause some strain and pressure. So that is one of

(18:28):
the reasons our loan book is performing so well.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
The no guidance for the year ahead, you join a
long queue of people who seemingly don't have a clue
what's going on. How difficult is it right now?

Speaker 17 (18:41):
Yeah, it's tricky for sure. And the guidance thing is
always interesting. We try and keep our investors in, shareholders
and interested people focused on the medium term. I kind
of have a view that the results may be up
and down a bit in the short term. What you
want people as focused on kind of medium growth, and
that's why we put out a three year target. So

(19:03):
we're very confident we're going to get to that, to
that number and eight of sixty five million.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
How good is Tina? The Tina thing is better than
you ever could have imagined or not.

Speaker 17 (19:14):
For sure. I mean that has been a unicorn of
a marketing campaign. She has resonated with people more than
we ever thought would happen. It's been great for our
team internally. And yeah, I mean it's just been just
a super campaign. Looking yesterday, she We've had over one
point one million views of the sixty second ad on

(19:38):
YouTube and people are watching it for fifty six seconds.
They were watching the entire ad, which is very unusual.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Good on you, and so yesterday you had your result.
Plus I'm assuming you watched Monaco.

Speaker 17 (19:51):
Yes, great result for Liam did what he needed to
do as a team player and got and got the results.
So you're very proud, very proud of his achievement last weekend.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Good stuff, nice talk you make and go well. Appreciate it.
Todd Hunter, who is the CEO at Turner's Automotive, the
reference to Lamb. They have a they have a tie
up with them. Eighteen away from seven.

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Speaker 2 (21:25):
Right, I let's go to Italy, Europe EU. Joe McKenna's
doing the business. Joe, morning to you, good moning mate.
Now this was so so the plane For people who
haven't seen it, the plane arrives in Vietnam, doors opening,
and the next thing you do is you got you got?
What do you make of it?

Speaker 19 (21:42):
Well, it looks like Brigitte mccroll, the wife of the
French president, was actually shoving him in the face as
that door opened, and you could see the shock in
the images on the president's face as he realized the
door was opened, and he quickly turned the shock into
a smile. But everyone's talking about it. Social media has

(22:04):
gone mad. I was just looking on x and I'm
seeing reactions in French, English, Arabic and Italian.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
What was interesting about the video is a is getting shoved,
but then he turned sees the doors open, and it
instantly goes oh hi, so like that's going to solve
the problem.

Speaker 19 (22:23):
And then when he spoke to reporters in Hanoi, he
tried to dismiss the whole thing as a joke, saying
he was teasing his wife and somehow people are coming
up with theories to try and explain it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh dear, is this? Are they known to have a someone.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
On social media?

Speaker 19 (22:40):
Sorry, I was going to sit on social media that
he was a victim of domestic abuse.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I don't know about that. Are they known to have
a tempestuous relationship? Is that the sort of thing that
they're famous for or we don't know?

Speaker 19 (22:50):
I well, I don't know. That's the first time I've
seen anything or heard anything about something intimate between the
two of them.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, that's random ass anyway, we'll see where it goes.
By the way, how is it possible given all I
know about Italy and what a basket case of the
economy is, how do you get an upgrade?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (23:08):
I was shocked as well.

Speaker 19 (23:09):
Credit ratings agency Moody's has upgraded Italy's outlook to positive,
moving from moving up to a B double A three
rating and saying that its update is stable and better
than expected. And last month I didn't realize this, but
s and P raised its rating on Italy to BBP
plus triple B plus from triple B. So that seems strange,

(23:34):
especially after Maloney's government slashed its forecast for twenty twenty
five GDP from zero point six percent to down to
sorry zero point six percent from one to point two percent.

Speaker 7 (23:46):
So it doesn't look that bright this year.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
And having said that, is that the sort of thing
that plays well domestically and politically. I mean, you know,
she can be seen as a big player on the
international stage, but equally, if she can run the economy
in a half decent fashion, that's good for her.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (24:02):
Look, I think that is seen by the business community
as a great positive that she seems to know what
she's doing and she's created this stability and she's doing
big deals at the big corporate level. But then if
we look at these exit polls that we're seeing from
local elections that took place across Italy today, there is
a bit of a backlash. The center left is gaining

(24:22):
some ground in those local elections. So it'll be interesting
to see the post mortem on that and whether that
is considered to be some sort of referendum on her leadership.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
And when we say local elections, what do we mean.
We're talking councils and mayoralties and stuff like that.

Speaker 19 (24:36):
Yeah, the biggest one was in Genoa, and so the
center left candidate has across the line there, and then
we've seen some others in Ravenna and other cities, smaller
cities across Italy.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Okay, just quickly, in France, this business of the sabotage
and the power I mean, is this a thing? What's
happening here?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (24:56):
Well, two anarchist groups in France have claimed responsibilities for
the power outages that we saw at the weekend. Several
thousand homes in Nice, another one hundred and sixty thousand
homes left without power in Khn, affecting the Khan Film
Festival at the weekend. No one seems to know why,
but they seem to think. The local officials seem to

(25:18):
think that it is bands of local anarchists that wanted
to disrupt the festival and also deprive establishments of electricity,
as they said in a letter that was published by
UK media at the weekend. So this is quite worrying,
I think for the local community, and I'd be interesting
to see if we see more of this in the future.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Boy's good to have you on the program. Jobill catch
up on Thursday doing the business for Rumkatherine who's off
holidaying in Finland this particular week ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
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Speaker 2 (25:51):
Speaking of Europe, they did a massive survey of Americans,
over one hundred thousand Americans. They said, where do you
want to go if you want to leave the country.
This is not on holiday, This is to get the
hell out of the place. Twenty west in assessment, our
main reason that people want to move is for quote, adventure,
enrichment and growth. Fifty six percent say the US is
two conservative fifty three percent, So it's two divided. Forty

(26:12):
one percent think guns are a problem, so they want
to get away from that. Two thirds want to leave
by next year, twelve percent want to leave within six months,
thirty percent want to retire, eighteen percent want of digital
nomad visa, and seventeen percent say they were looking for
a skilled worker visa anyway where they want to go.
Costa Rica is ten, Portugal's one, Spain is two, the

(26:34):
UK three, Canada's for Italy's five, Ireland six, Francs seven,
eight is Mexico nine, good old in Zid. You don't
see us up the top ten much anymore. So it's
a great reminder that although we might be a bit
down on the dumps at the time over various aspects
of our life, one of which we'll deal with after

(26:55):
seven o'clockless business of five hundred dollars of retail crime.
Anything below that the police aren't looking at are legit
when you come from the outside looking, and we're still
a fantastic place five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
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Speaker 1 (27:07):
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Speaker 2 (27:13):
So they've got a fifty three year old white British
man arrested. I don't know what that means, so I
don't know you know how to deliver it. All of
this is this is his unfolding thing in Liverpool at
the moment. Anyway, Rodd'll be on to it, and so
we'll catch up with him later on in the program
OCR prediction time. This is tomorrow, of course, twenty five
points baked, and everyone thinks he's going to be twenty

(27:33):
five percently that there's not a single economist. I'll give
you one hundred bucks if you can find an economist
today who doesn't think it's going to be twenty five tomorrow,
because they all do. That'll take the OCR from three
five to three two five. After that's the question, do
we get another twenty five? I say yes, either in
July or August. Well, I say in July and August.
I say twenty five and twenty five. So there's a

(27:56):
sixty percent chance will be dropped the OCR to two
point seven five by the end of the year. That's
what they call neutral, and that'll be the low point.
The two point seven five makes sense to a degree
because the RB targets inflation are run about two percent
as of March this year is sitting at two point
five percent. But that's if inflation doesn't start going back up.

(28:17):
And this is our worry. All over the world. At
the moment, we're seeing a little bit of an up tickup,
pick up stick.

Speaker 11 (28:21):
Some of it.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
You can't blame coffee prices. My coffee the other day
go right to me. His beans have gone up. When
I say beans, the green beans has been so far
this year have gone up forty nine percent. So he
had to pass that on to me. So I get that.
So that's inflationary. You see other people are just you know,
taking the mickey and they're putting the prices up. Anyway,
where was I A and Z Dave updated the Dune

(28:43):
inflation number from zero point four to zero point eight,
which would put inflation at two point eight. You see
two point eight, you're thinking, oh, sera to three got problems.
Going to have to do something about the cash Rate're
going to be looking at the monetary policy statement. This
is the big one. So it's all very well doing
your twenty five points or fifty points or whatever it is,
But what are you saying about it? What's your vibe?

(29:03):
What's to read? How much more trouble have we got?
Is it getting better on the latter part of twenty
five or or having to wait to twenty twenty six.
And then you've got the specter of old hawksby Christian,
who no one's ever heard of before, and no one's
ever heard him speak. Unless you're a won can you
follow it? You know it's select committees and stuff like that.
But he's got the job part time at the moment,
he's been given it for six months. He's on the

(29:25):
program Thursday. My first question is have you applied for
the job full time? What are you a credentials? I'll ask, No,
I won't, Well I might, you never know. But anyway,
we've not heard from Christian before. And so what's is
he like Adrian? Is he better than Adrian? Is he
one of those people you think, oh he hawksby wow? Anyway?
And yes, if you're asking, he's related in a several

(29:47):
times down the line kind of way. I don't know,
can't explain. It doesn't really matter. Don't think it's going
to change his mind.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
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Speaker 2 (30:05):
Seven past seven, so strange possibly confusing messages coming from
the police. Have a retail crime there's a directive to
police staff that tells them they will no longer be
investigating shoplifting of it's less than five hundred bucks. Are
the retailers upon hearing that, want of word, of course
with the minister our Sunday Kerschel is the chairperson of
the Ministry of Justices Retail Crime Group and is with
a Sunday Morning.

Speaker 20 (30:25):
Very good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Do you know what's going on? Have you got clarity
on this or not?

Speaker 20 (30:29):
See this police infection was a bolt out of the
blue and retailers would be concerned by this, and I'm
looking to get clarity on this matter from the Police
indist and the Police Commissioner. You know, these policies have
already failed in America and the UK, where gangs of
shoplifters exploit similar policies to make illegal gains without consequences.

(30:53):
So I want the police to clarify their position. If
they have set limits as suggested in the news reports,
we will be advocating strongly that these are immediately removed
and a police adopt a zero tolerance approach to retail crime.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
This sort of goes against if it's true, This goes
against what you're working towards, doesn't it.

Speaker 20 (31:12):
That's very true. You know, we thought we are making
a huge progress and these kind of instructions hinder the
work that we're doing. You know, getting on top of
the problems require the government adopted zero a tolerant response.
And the best deterrence for retail crime is having criminals
not they will be caught and face consequences for the crimes,

(31:36):
but giving them a free pass due to low threshold
will involved in criminals and increase retail crime exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Well, I just wonder what has been articulated is what
they do anyway, and it just happens to have leaked out.
In other words, if you report something worth a couple
hundred bucks, you kind of know they're not going to
look at it, don't you, rightly or wrongly?

Speaker 12 (31:56):
Mike.

Speaker 20 (31:57):
We need to learn lessons, you know. Even in the
UK they have gone in the totally opposite direction with
a bill in the House of Commons right now that
would repeal low value shifting. Shoplifting defined as two hundred
pounds or less, which is biscally five hundred New Zealand.
A House of Lord's committee last November described this as

(32:20):
a tribalizing theft, and the UK government responded in February
doing what we thought police did here to treat theft
as theft. To be fair to the Police Commissioner Richard Chambers,
this smacks of policy by consent and that is not
his approach.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
All right, Well, we'll stay on top of this and
see where we go. Sunny Kerschel, who's with the He's
chairperson the Ministry of Justice Retail Crime Group. I was
told this morning that we went to Mitchell and Mitchell
quote unquote is no longer doing interviews on the subject,
which I thought was ironic because I hadn't heard him
interbuted at all on the subject. But he will be
presenting himself tomorrow on this program. Ten past seven, hosking Elson.

(33:00):
They had their day in the sun yesterday, no pun
intended given them. Weather was of course rope. But the
beguns also came to town. They announced the details around
that new hospital. Half a billion is being plowed into redevelopment.
Nick Smith, of course, is the mayor of the city
and as with us Nick, morning to you.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Good morning.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
We got a great day yesterday and we're very welcoming
over the announcement.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Are you still in gumboots? Are you sorted out there?

Speaker 8 (33:21):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (33:21):
We had a torrential rainstorm for a couple of hours
yesterday morning at height toward It did cause some damage.
Reminder of the investment that councils need to make an
upgrading our store water infrastructure, but no major damage might good.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
As regards the hospital, is it one of those things
that's going to go on forever and get changed along
the way, or are you confident something's going to happen.

Speaker 17 (33:41):
Well.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
The plans that were announced by the government yesterday involve
a new and patient building. It'll be the largest building
ever built in Nelson at eleven thousand square meters. You know,
one hundred and twenty eight beds, new pharmacy, new blood bank,
new how he paired, new medical assessment. It's a massive commitment.
And alongside it as big upgrades of the infrastructure, new

(34:04):
energy center, new parking building and already we have a
new emergency department underway. Nelson health services have been under
real pressure. The old buildings go back to fifty five
nineteen seventy are earthquake prone, increasing levels of frustration that
nothing was happening. A real wed let today not just

(34:25):
to have the commitment for the over five hundred million
to do the job, but also very encouraged by this
notion of a thirty two bed temporary modular inpatient ward.
It's the first for New Zealand. The big game for
us in that is that our waiting lists are long
because of the shortage of beds. The project's not due

(34:46):
for completion the major project till twenty nine. It gives
us some immediate relief, but also because the plan involves
the earthquake strengthening of a couple of existing tower blocks,
there's been real challenges and getting that work done while
those hospitals are still being used, and so it just
enables the redevelopment to be able to be done really well.

(35:08):
That extra announcement was really the icing on the cake.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Fantastic good to hear the good news and I appreciate
it very much. Next Smith, the Mayor of Nelson thirteen
minutes past seven ask Christian Hawksby is a different man
from Adrian or as it is possible to be here
is similar to Mark Carnigan would be an excellent governor
and would be seen as a steady pair of hands.
I don't know that you know, and I assume you do.
Good luck to you, our second cousin. Apparently my wife
informs me second cousin, very nice bloke from the Hawkspeaker,
very nice bloke. Not that that makes you a great governor,

(35:33):
just makes you a very nice bloke. Mike headlines yesterday
about four quote unquote heavy hitters looking at the pay
equity decision. Heavy hitters really mahoota Wearing, etc.

Speaker 9 (35:42):
What a rabble.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I thought the same thing. I thought, what is it
with me? I mean, there's nothing. I mean Marilyn Wearing.
I've had some time with her over the years, and
she has an interesting figure, especially if you go back
far enough to the Mouldoon days. But it's got a
touch of the hell and Clarks about it doesn't It's
got a touch of the I just can't let the
business go. And you've got to understand, at the end
of the day's regards pay equity, the government of the

(36:04):
day is allowed to do what the government of the
day is allowed to do because they've got the numbers.
And who's sitting around with some people like Mahuta and
listening to people you open, go now, listen everybody. Would
you like to have a word to us on pay equity?

Speaker 19 (36:15):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Absolutely I would. And they're all union based. She knows
the unionists were hanging around with it yesterday. So what
do you reckon? The unions is going to stay? The
union is going to say, oh, it's robbery, it's daylight robbery.
It's not acceptable. They're stealing money off women. And they'll
put a report together. The report it's not due to
the end of the year. What do you think I mean, honestly,
are we taking it away on Christmas? Holidays? So you're

(36:36):
going to give a Marilyn Wearing report to your cousin
for Christmas? There, go have the report, read that over
the holidays and see how gripping it is. Is it
going to change anything?

Speaker 9 (36:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
So what's the point? Fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
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Speaker 2 (36:54):
Be news talks have been Mike not. This is a
good point. Why do the media constantly beg the police
for these outcome It's a direct result of the court's
not taking theft seriously. They might argue the police in
their quiet moments, what's the point of the paperwork, because
by the time they get to court, nothing's happening. I
get that a clear message from the police, Mike, they
are failing society and accept low level crime. If you
can call under five hundred low level, that's a lot

(37:15):
of groceries and other goods. Talk about leaving retailers to
the wolves. This is the complete opposite of the proven
tactics are like broken windows. I am disappointed at Mark Mitchell.
It may be somebody in his office spoke on his
behalf and said he's not doing any more interviews, But
I mean he hung his hat on this stuff, and
if this is what's going on, then he's got to
be a little bit more answerable than he currently is
this morning. But we will catch up with him. We'll

(37:37):
get him eventually, don't you worry. We'll put the lockers
on them tomorrow At ten past eight, seventeen past seven
now seems the greyhound scrap isn't over. Industry is off
to court. They want a judicial review on the government's
decision to close racing. This was Winston Peters, of course.
Edward Ronelle is the CEO of Greenhower Racing New Zealand
and as well as Edward Morning.

Speaker 21 (37:55):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Have you got good legal advice on this?

Speaker 21 (38:00):
Have been advised by Chris Finilison, the former Attorney General
on this.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
He's all over the place. He's down in christ you
at the High Court where the water issue now he's
doing the greyhounds. What's he told you?

Speaker 21 (38:10):
Well, we believe the ban is radical. The government took
only a few short months to make a decision that
takes away their livelihoods and lifestyles of generations. Are Kigwi's
based on selective information. We're seeking a judicial review to
expose the government's pre to determined, cavalier attitude to policy making.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
The problem with the government, the problem with the government.
I was sure Chris's advice you're given he's been in
the government is that the government are actually allowed to
do whatever they wanted. They've got the numbers of the day,
can't they.

Speaker 21 (38:38):
Yes, there's still an expectation is process, Mike. You know,
since the minister was appointed in November twenty three, we
have not been able to have a meeting with him.
We've had no engagement, We've had nothing in writing from
the government on the decision. The only way we've been
able to determine how the decision was made was based
on OIA and all the information and it's through that

(38:58):
process we've seen that the cabinet paper that went to
cabinet was highly selective and did not present the complete facts.
And when you're looking to take away one hundred and
fifty nine million from the economy in one thousand and
fifty four jobs, surely you have an obligation to review
the full facts.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, not fair enough. Having said that, though, what if
it's one of those procedural things where the court goes, Yep, no,
they didn't do their job, go do your job properly,
and they go do their job properly and you still
end up closed.

Speaker 21 (39:28):
Well, I think if they go and do their job
properly in an undertaker review, they'll see that greyhound racing
is actually leading the way in sports industries from an
animal perspective, and our animal welfare standards exceed those of Australia.
They exceed those and many other racing jurissiction. So we
believe any further review will highlight that greyhound racing is

(39:50):
meeting its expectations in the modern environment.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay, do you go into this bullish you're optimistic.

Speaker 21 (39:57):
Look, I would rather not be going through this process,
So I'd be rather sitting down with the government out
buying everything we're doing, and then in the ongoing suits
we'd be making to improve welfare. But we feel we
have to do this and we wouldn't be taking the
section if we didn't believe it was a strong cat seven.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
All right, well, I wish I wish you were with it.
It would appreciate it very much, it would renel. We'll
follow it with a great deal of entrist greyhound racing
New Zealand. It's not like they weren't warned either. Myles
Horrell gets my quote of the day as regards in
my ongoing fascination with this business of whether or not
they're going to ipo their consumer brands and that's your
tiptop something they're body sold tip top at Capiti Cheese,

(40:32):
all that sort of stuff, or whether they're going to
just flick it off. We've got an update on that
for you in the next half hour of the program.
Libby Weaver by the ways back with us after right.
Look forward to that catch up as well seven twenty.

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key Now seventy twenty four, the media, you might have noticed,
has discovered Walkworth. Now. Walkworth is the posted child for
a number of different things. For a while, it was
the posted child for the forgotten town when the new
motorway passed by it and the traveler no longer stopped in.

(42:15):
Now it is the posted child for a region that
is booming, but the stuff that makes a place boom
more hasn't been built, so it's training a bit and
the locals aren't happy. Locals, though, are rarely happy, you
might note, because Walkworth has, like lots of small places
in this country that took off, those there in the
early days liked it because no one knew about it.
Once they did know about it, it would never be
the same again. Walkworth is, in fact just a part

(42:36):
of a wider region, which is the real story and
the real story as a group of towns like Walkworth
and Snell's Beach at Mattakana and Omaha and maybe even
Lee who form the tough Atanui Peninsula a bit north
of Walkland. Actually that's part of the story as well.
It's not north Walkland, it is Auckland. It's thirty five
ish minutes drive to the city center. That's what a
motorway extension will do for you. The growth we now see,

(42:57):
I mean the upset also reported by the media over
the oyster farms having to close because of neurovirus. Told
you about that the other day. That's been coming for years.
Growth isn't hard to see. There's a subdivision on a
hill just as you arrive off the motorway, just as
you turn off, when the new motorway stops and the
road to the far north turns back into nineteen seventy three,
there are literally hundreds of plots of land six hundred

(43:19):
squaarish meters each, many with new homes, most of them sold.
The complaint, hence the media, is the place can't cope.
The infrastructure never came with the consents. The water systems
not up to it. The sewage isn't up to it.
The council knows this, They've got a plan. The plan
isn't sort of for three more years, and three years,
of course the growth will have gone next level and
the council will have the same trouble, except larger part
of it. I thought to myself yesterday, might be this

(43:41):
is the same council that took two years to give
me a consent for a pull, having lost the paperwork
several times over. Maybe it's in competence. But if you
want an example of how we cock things up despite
the fact we see the issue coming, try walk with
and the surrounding region. None of it was a surprise.
All of it's been predicted, and yet the dumpty dews
still can't move with the Times asking Mike. They've given

(44:02):
the green light for shoplifters to go for it as
long as it's under five hundred. This is why, as
a business owner and the CBD, I don't waste my
time reporting to shoplifters. See that could be part of
the problem. Your attitude, rightly or wrongly, is the reality
of life, And maybe the reality of life is you've
just seen something written down. Maybe the cops never investigated
anything under five hundred dollars. Maybe you just saw it

(44:23):
written down for the first time and now you're freaking out.
Doesn't make it right. I'm just saying, maybe that's what's
happening here. The problem, Mike, is that society thinks they
always get an opportunity to be consulted, when in fact
it's just better if people get on with it, make
a decision on our behalfs Well, don't tell that to
Marylyn wearing goodness sake? What would what would Marylyn do
with the time if we all just made decisions and

(44:43):
got on with life for goodness sake. I've got a
couple of good things going on. Actually one's not so good,
the plastic. So there's a council. I'll tell you more
about the council. But anyways, counsel's got a big pile
of plastic and they can't send it off sure anymore
they'd call that recycling. We used to send all the
stuff to China. What do you reckon China with it?
You can try to really recycle anything. Do you think
we all just deluded ourselves for years going out? Tell

(45:05):
you what we're in an excellent recycling program. We send
it off to China. Who do you know what? Anyway,
that's one story. The other story is a genius seems
a genius piece of invention, taking one thing and making
it into something completely different. That's in the next half
hour of the program after the news, which.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Is next New Zealand's Voice of Reason is Mike the
Mic asking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life, Your Way
News togs Head.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Be interesting to see how anngsty some people are. Mike,
why does your news team have to say that the
man who ran over the people in Liverpool was a
fifty three year old white man? And we wonder why
this division in the world when the media push it.
The media aren't pushing it. The media are repeating what
the police said. The police said it's a fifty three
year old white man. The reference to the white man

(45:53):
is he's not Iranian or Pakistani or of some other
description which they also use. So to say that it's
a standard police procedure that they give you an indication
as to who the person is, and that I would
have thought has been going on forever. By the way,
Banks and mortonwell up bank has moved in anticipation. I'm

(46:15):
assuming of what mister c Hawksby of the RB number one,
the Terrace and Wellington will tell us tomorrow. They're not
moving by much on the mortgage rates. What do you
want do you want to You want to standard six
months go on from five to four nine to five
three five. You want to stand at eighteen months four nine,
five to four eight nine. So they're not big moves,
are they? Four year? If you want to go long
money five six nine down to five three nine standard five,

(46:39):
you're down at five seven nine to five five nights
to pay over five. Come on, I'd hold I'd hold off,
I'd hold off. No, don't take my advice. I'm sure
that's some broadcasting rule about that. Don't get don't go
refixing your mortgage because what my ah, well, I heard
Mike saynt I don't forget what I forget what I've said.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
It was just you deliberately saying that to Kate.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah exactly. I'm just saying that there's more where that
came from. You think he's done tomorrow, He's not done tomorrow.
There's more where that came from. Twenty two minutes away
from eight. Libby Weaver, doctor is in the house after
right o'clock this morning. We're going to focus a bit
on iron. But generally when I interviewed Libby, I go
off on a strange tangent. We end up talking about
god knows what. So we'll start on iron and see

(47:19):
how we go. Could be my lack of iron that's
led to me being sort of the way I am.
I hadn't considered that until this morning. The old recycling
issue is getting another airing in the Far North, so
given the district council and now Face is sending a
year's worth of plastic to the landfill. So the Chinese
recycling plants you might remember, close their business to the
rest of the world a while back, so we're kind

(47:41):
of stuck here now. Sue Coots is worth Zero Waste
Network and she's with us. Soue morning, Good morning, Mike.
Was this a bit of reality versus theory? I mean,
what really do you think the Chinese were doing with
all our plastic? I mean they weren't really recycling it,
were they?

Speaker 22 (47:55):
Yeah, they did their best to recycle it, but people
started sending them such a lot of mad stuff, you know,
recycling everything that we wanted to throw into our recycling bins,
sending it off to China hoping that they'll be able
to sort our problems out. And I think what we
can take from what's happened in Northland is it's no
surprise that the colored soft drunk bottles are not going
to get recycled, like we've known that for about ten years.

(48:16):
I think what's really surprising to me is that producers
are still choosing to sell our strengths and bottles that
aren't recyclable exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
So here's here's the problem. This is I got this
this type one plasic, Is that right?

Speaker 22 (48:28):
Yep, that's right, yeah, and colored, So it's the brown ones.
The green ones are dark blue ones that are really
hard to recycle because obviously, once you put all that
dye into the material, it's difficult to include it as
recycled content in the next round of product.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
And when we talk about the Northern District Council, I'm
assuming it's all over the country.

Speaker 22 (48:46):
Yeah, every council, every rate player has an issue with recycling,
and I think that's one reason why we really need
to come up with a bit of a better way
of doing it, Like what well, Basically, there's plenty of
good ideas out there.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
You know.

Speaker 22 (48:57):
The reason New Zealand's got a big rubbish problem at
the moment is that we just haven't done any of
them in the last twenty years. Government's got a consultation
out at the moment looking at extending producer responsibility, which
is a really good way of putting the problem into
the hands of the people that created it. If you
if you think of people who put the packaging on

(49:17):
the market, they're the ones who decide what kinds of
packaging they use. They're the ones who have the ability
to choose types that are readily recyclable. If you know,
if you look around the world, extend a producer responsibility
as the whey all our countries are going that we
like to compare ourselves to, you know, would give us
a chance to get something if we get this law

(49:38):
in place, give us a chance to put something like
and contain a return scheme in place, which would see
us with really great outcomes for all the bottles and cans.
And then it could also set us up for things
like textiles and e waste and other things that we
want to see better recycling systems for as well.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Do you know, and you'll call me negative, but I
just don't think we're that group client. I mean, we'll
say we would if you ran a pole, you go,
oh absolutely, our love recycling fantastic, can't do enough. But
in reality, if it's inconvenient, we won't do it. I mean,
isn't that the simple truth? He's where we are, where
we are.

Speaker 22 (50:10):
It's not what the evidence shows, Like these surveys that
have done in New Zealand show that now the majority
of people, even though they don't feel one hundred percent
confident that there's good outcomes from recycling, they're rarely committed
to carrying on and they're really committed to doing the
right thing. I think the main problem we have in
New Zealand is we don't have good, simple systems for
people to be part of. And you know, that's that's

(50:30):
what the extent of producer responsibility would set us up with.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
And you know we have.

Speaker 22 (50:36):
You know, the issue in New Zealand really is that
we're not committing to putting those systems in place to
help people and businesses across the country do.

Speaker 20 (50:42):
The right thing.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Well, if you look at well, let's hope it changes so,
but the council still got a pile of plastic that's
going to the tip, haven't who's the director of external
affairs at the Zero Waste Network eighteen minutes away from
eight paskime? Like the Reserve Bank is not? But too
the terrace not number one? Well, that's probably why the
male won't get there. I mean, that'll be the problem
is everyone thinks it's number one. I'll check that out.

(51:05):
Are you sure you're right? I don't want to seekond
guess you, but I thought it was number one, Treasury
number one, Reserve Bank number two. That doesn't strike me
as right, because then are they next door to each
other across the road? Because one is not next door
to two.

Speaker 15 (51:18):
Some streets do do sort of sequential numbering, though, don't
they do? Like it will colder sacks quite often do.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Oh you go round in this? You started to beginning
to go round.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Their describe the terrace as a colder sex.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's certainly not a cold de sack. There's no way
it's a cold st I.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Sort of think of Wellington as one big colder.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Sec and certainly the city is a cul de sack.
But the terrace specifically is not a could a sack.

Speaker 15 (51:35):
Well, the one way streets, you drive around and around
and around, and then you sort of end up not
where you were meaning to go.

Speaker 11 (51:40):
Big.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
If you're coming off Mike six point nine to nine
next month, well yes it is big, but work it through, mate.
If you're coming off six' nine, nine don't take just
because it's a smaller. Rate don't take a smaller rate
and go off. Fuel think about this rate that's being
offered to. Me could it be even smaller? Again IF
i just hold off a bit, longer float for a,
while and there's there's better days.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Coming this is more and more like financial advisor all the.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Time it is sounding like financial. ADVICE i must be
if there are, RULES i don't even know there are.
Rules but if there are, rules AM i am right
on the edge this. Morning let me come back to
the coffee prices in just a second as. Well seventeen
to two The.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
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Speaker 2 (52:20):
It all came floating back to. Me you're, right so
number One's. Treasury number two is THE rb BECAUSE i
went To treasury many many years, ago and as directly
across the. Road you're, right BECAUSE i went to the.
Building it's one of those buildings that was at the
end Of. Treasury it's just down by Where radio And
New zealand used to be in The. Parliament AND i
went into the. BUILDING i, Thought i've never been in
this building, before and it was a very nice. Building
well the bit The treasury. Was it was very nice,

(52:41):
building AND i, Thought.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Jesus fancy fancy. Lobby did it have a fancy.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Lobby it had a fancy lobby and it was Very
wellington and it's old wood woodish sort of. FANCINESS i
went to lunch With Don brash once, too and that
reminded me, too and he invited a series Of it's
not just me to a lunch in his boardroom when
he was the governor of The Reserve. Bank So i've
been To number one and to the. Terrace i've been, around,

(53:08):
eh but.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
You couldn't quite remember which one was.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
WORKING i didn't quite remember which was. Which but that's
not the first, time long doesn't, exactly that's not the
first time that's happened to, me, Right So myles hurral
do you want coffee Or Miles Hurrale miles Hurrel So
fonterra they're. Building i'm reading in business desk. Yesterday this
is my ongoing fascination with them offloading their commercial, side
their consumer. Products i'm against. IT i think it's a.

(53:31):
Mistake i've Told miles. That miles disagrees with, me and
he said something, Like, mike you wouldn't have a. Clue
you just run a radio. Show he's too polite to
actually say, that but that's what he was. Thinking, Anyway
he's building the strong support For farmer. Shareholders they need
a strong mandate to proceed with the, proposal which is
quite right quote. Unquote and this is why it's the
quote of the. Day if you're getting fifty percent plus

(53:53):
a tickle, up it doesn't really give you the mandate
or the. Endorsement if you get fifty percent plus a tickle,
UP i, mean you wouldn't sell your consumer division based
on a tickle, up would.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
You?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Hey, Anyway so they talked to a couple of. Shareholders
one's Called. Lloyd lloyd says they're not selling this to
pay off. Debt and this Is. Lloyd i'm On lloyd's.
Team they're not selling this to pay off. Debt they're
selling this because they don't know how to run. It
he and others had argued unsuccessfully in the past for
a functional split that would Put fontira supply in processing
in one, company create a second entity to run the.

(54:26):
Brands that's my. Argument, Meantime, gary who's From cambridge a
skibs you an. Insight gary says he anticipated for himself
about four hundred thousand dollars of a. Shareholding he, Says
i'm seventy. Seven i've got a lot of mates of
the same. Age they're going to take it and. Run see,
now that's not the future Is if you're just going
to take it and, run especially after a tickle, up
you're not helping the, country are.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
You at seventy?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Seven though at seventy, Seven, YEAH i can't blame, it he, said.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Definitely take, it take a tickle.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Up it could take a tickle. Up take this four
hundred thousand and he's going to run with. It i've
got a good idea. Coming, well it's not my, idea
it's somebody else's, idea BUT i think it's it's got
some stuff and it's ironic because just yesterday we were
talking about THE Irm williams leather that comes out Of
wanganui that we discovered the leather was finished In wonganuei

(55:14):
and the boots made In. Australia, well we've got something
related in the. Moment tend to.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
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Speaker 2 (55:22):
Beslo seven away from a what to do with Old kiwi?
Fruit will you take the, byproduct you process, it and
you turn it into a leather. Alternative, yes we are
delving into the world of bio materials. Here Shelley, houston
founder Of Kiwi Leather, innovations as well As shelley good,
Morning good.

Speaker 11 (55:37):
Morning how are?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
You i'm extremely well AS i read your. Story you're
sitting at home In. Papamoa your, son who works In
Kiwi fruit brings a whole bunch of this stuff. Home
you make a lot of baking and then you, Think
i'm sick of baking this? Stuff what else CAN i
do with? It next, thing you, know you've got the leather.
Alternative is that how it?

Speaker 9 (55:52):
Worked?

Speaker 11 (55:53):
Yes pretty, much that's away. WRECK i used to have
a makeup brand THAT i started in my kitchen as,
well and there's just a bit of chemistry is a
bit of a hobby of. Mine So i'd seen overseas
that they were already creating other biomaterials of grapes and
mangoes and pineapples, caps anything like that you could, Find

(56:15):
SO i give it a go with the good old kiwi.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Fruit what do you need physically to take the kiwi
fruit put it? Into what that? Does what to give
you the alternative to.

Speaker 11 (56:26):
Leather there's lots of different ways that you can do,
it So i'm still kind of experimenting with that at the.
Moment but, yeah there's there's a few little tips and
tricks that they give, you some different ways of putting
in plastics and regiments and stuff like, that So i'm
avoiding all that side of. It some use polyester as a,

(56:46):
backing SO i won't be doing that. EITHER i can't
really say too much about what's in, it BUT i
can tell.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
You what's not in.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
It and, no but you've got. It you've got a secret.
Recipe you've got a thing that you know what it,
is and you could you know how it can be? Made, yes,
okay what's the mathematical? Equation how much of the Old kiwi.
Fruit do you need to make say a square meter
of the leather, alternative.

Speaker 11 (57:11):
It's about five hundred?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Grand is that?

Speaker 20 (57:16):
All?

Speaker 11 (57:17):
Yeah well at the moment to make half a square.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Meter, Gosh so that's being for buck in that, case isn't.
It you're making a lot of leather alternative With, COMPARATIVELY
i didn't. Visits you needed a skip load of the
stuff and it sort of breaks down and then the
next thing you, know you've got a small piece of
leather out the.

Speaker 11 (57:36):
End not quite so, yeah almost like. That there is
a lot of waste out, there a lot of byproducts
that usually it goes through to big stuff for. Cows
so there's definitely a lot more available THAN i thought there.
Was but we're still kind of getting through the process
of missing it up and trying different techniques to get

(57:57):
it out the other.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
End what are you going to do with? It you're
gonna make leather, pants what are you going to do?

Speaker 11 (58:03):
Clothing? SHOES i really want to get it into Automotive
so tenslers. No now only to use captives leather BN w.
YES i used to capture some pineapple and mushroom. Leathers
sunny leavers really popular at the moment and it's a great.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
One do you know if anyone else is doing this
In New?

Speaker 11 (58:22):
Zealand keith From saparateech is Doing sunday.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Leathers, yep so him AND. I you And keith. Started, yeah,
yeah you And keith have got the alternative leather market stitched,
up no pun, intended we.

Speaker 11 (58:34):
Have we definitely have good on.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
You, well we'll stay in, Touch. SHELLEY i think it's
fantastic byproducts into something else and there's a lot of
that that car. IDEA i love because there's a lot
of that stuff going. On sort of super cool not
to have leather, anymore and you know it's made of
a pop plant or whatever it was. Beforehand news for.
You in a couple of, Moments golden based on Met
micah gearing up to use some of their recycled plastic
rubbish and their no emissions kill, fuel which is. Interesting

(59:00):
they already use pelletized old. Ties. Yeah people using a
lot of tires for all sorts of different. Things roading
is a big one helping with the problem To New
zealand just needs to build a large no emissions kiln
like some Other european. Countries and we're off and running.
Right we're going to get on to health in just
a couple of. Moments we always always Love Libby weather
in the studio To we'll start with iron because iron's.

(59:23):
Critical but then in researching For, LIBBY i ran across
a couple of articles that were nothing to do with,
iron and THEN i, thought oh, WELL i better ask
her about those as well WHILE i got the doctor
in the. House you know what it's liked in saved
money and can get a bit of health. Advice so
we'll do that for you after the, news which is
next to. News togs ED.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
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Speaker 2 (59:55):
One it is seven past. Eight time for a catch
up with one of our our favorite Doctor Libby weaver
has been here and dealt to everything on this, program
from sugar deplant basedupplements as, diet energy process and the
whole thing today a little bit on iron the role of.
It her new book is Called Fix Iron. First efficiency
is holding many of us backing Doctor Libby weaver is,

(01:00:15):
well it's very good, morning good morning to you make
lovely to see iron versus anything else you can do
for yourself that's in your. Body how important does? It
where do you rank?

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
It number?

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
One and it is not top of the conversation.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Enough so it is the most common nutritional deficiency, globally
including here In New, zealand and it particularly affects women
across the menstruation year's pregnant women and very, sadly it's
estimated that around forty percent Of New zealand children are iron.
Deficient and it plays a role in everything from energy
to brain function and, development thyroid function and anxiety.

Speaker 7 (01:00:47):
Prevention so it's got a big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Job and so how come we're short of?

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
It we're not eating enough for a, start and then
we also need other nutrients to allow iron to do
its work inside our, body things like, copper, beta, carotene VITAMIN,
a so absorption gut problems can also be. Contributing and
when we talk about the, gut obviously it sounds so,
basic but when we chew our, food that's what allows
us to produce stomach acid and it is literally crucial

(01:01:12):
for iron. Absorption and then of course when the iron
actually reaches the. Gut it has to be delivered to the,
blood and for a lot of people these, days for
lots of different, reasons including eating too much junk food
is contributing to real iron absorption.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Gulps it's my favorite subject at the, Moment so gut
appears to, me to gut health has appears to have
become a. Thing is that?

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
True, yeah, well in my world it's always always, been.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
But out here in the regular world it's suddenly become
a topic djure and how.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
Fabulous AND i think we currently know the tip of
the iceberg about. It, obviously the gut microbiome plays a
huge role in our level of, wellness everything from what
calories are, worth to our immune, function our neurotransmitter. PRODUCTION
a lot of our neurotransmitters are actually produced in the,
gut but iron is actually needed for dopamine. Production so for,
motivation we need iron for gabber, production which is an

(01:02:06):
anti anxiety, agent it's sort of a chill, pill and
also serotonin for our. Contentment so my worry with this
widespread iron deficiency is that that conversation is not coming
to life. Enough you think of a teenage, girl for,
example and she might, SAY i feel really, anxious and
there's a trait in our culture right now to go
straight down a psychological or psychiatric.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
Road and that might be right for some.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
People but my concern is that if that teenage girl
is iron, deficient how do we know that her anxiety
is not coming from iron?

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
Deficiency AND i want to bring that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Too how many? People how much of this is widely?
KNOWN i mean our first port of, CALL i mean
apart from a book of yours or knowing somebody is the. Doctor,
yeah isn't? It so would a doctor go write iron is,
important let's check your iron or not? Necessarily not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Necessarily it's a very easy test to have, done and
certainly some of our gps are really aware of. It
and that's one the tests to have done are called iron,
studies and that will measure.

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Iron it will also measure.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Transferrin now transferrin is it's good to imagine it like
the bus that drives the iron. Around so when we're
iron deficient that actually goes. High then there's transferen, saturation
that's how many little units of iron are on the
bus getting driven. Around and then there's, ferretin which is iron,
storage and the normal range In New zealand pathology labs
for ferretin for adult women is twenty to two hundred

(01:03:26):
and twenty micrograms per. Lead and now that's a crazy
wide range and we need normal. Ranges it would be
chaos without. Them but the trouble is if you just
fall into that normal, range you'll be told that's, normal
and most women don't have robust health when it's fitting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
There what do we do about? This We you AND
i were talking about THE sofia so one of the
great And i'm assuming it's the same In. Australia one
of the great issues with healthcare in this country is
you can't get access to A. Gp if you can't
get access to A, gp it's fifteen minutes. Tops sometimes they're,
interested sometimes they're. Not and it's become this thing where
people don't follow their health journey the way they used

(01:04:00):
to because of the access to the. Health so what
you've already given us in the three and a half
minutes that you've been on air is a level of
complexity and detail that may well blow most people's. Minds
you see What i'm, saying and so where DO i
get this? Information if the doctor just goes you're on
the range of. Normal i'll see you in six. Months
i'm a big.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Fan for us also participating in our own health, Journey
SO i really encourage people to get copies of their
own blood test results so they can see they can
track their own levels and see patterns whether they're going
up in something or going down in. Something and then
that also with these sorts of conversations that then foster
is a patient to say to their, doctor can you
help me understand this a bit?

Speaker 7 (01:04:41):
Better and it might mean that they actually get some.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Treatment that's a hurdle for many people, too isn't, It
because if you're going to the, doctor the doctor's the.
Expert you know, Nothing so why would you. ASK i
Assume i'm like everyone. Else with THE gv you get
a portal these, days you can track your blood's on a,
portal you can see the chart and all that sort
of that standard. Practice i'm assuming WITH, gps so can.
Participate so In, iron what you also learned is that

(01:05:04):
it's not just. Iron iron does this and you need
that to help there and suddenly it gets is it?

Speaker 7 (01:05:09):
Complicated it's actually.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
NOT i, mean my whole world is nutrition and biochemistry
and that's why that spins my tires understanding all of,
this and it's WHY i tried to bring it to
life in in really easy to access kind of ways
like a. Book but it's essentially it's not complicated in
that we're supposed to obtain all of our nutrition from our,
food and sadly these days it's getting harder and harder
to do that because of a thousand, reasons including soil.

(01:05:34):
Quality so when also to copper is another really important
nutrient for iron once it's inside of. Us and we
all used to have houses with copper, pipes, sure and
now they're, plastic so when the water flowed across the copper,
pipes we've got a little. Bit there's a bit of
copper in some, foods but it can be a nutrient
that some people have a subclinical deficiency in so that
once the ion's in, them it's not getting back to

(01:05:55):
the bone, marrow for, example to make the red blood.
Cells we make two and a half on new red
blood cells every. Second it's all inspiring when you think about,
it and those red blood cells can carry the hemoglobin
which iron is required for to get the oxygen to
every cell inside our.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Body. Excellent the good thing is we've got to take a.
Break i've only got six four hundred questions. Left Libby
weaver more shortly thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Fix Iron first Is Libby weaver's new book sixteen minutes
past eight used with us as far as getting, anything
whether it be iron or, not diet or supplements or
both or it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
Well food first in my, world but it's very hard
to get enough these days of certain nutrients from our,
food and that's WHY i am a big fan of.

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
Supplementation but it needs to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Quality, okay all whether once, again whether we're talking about
iron or. Not how much is going on in, science
in the evolution of, Knowledge so what you say to
me this morning in ten year's time may well be completely.
DIFFERENT i.

Speaker 5 (01:07:00):
Agree it's a REALLY i always feel like it's. Exciting
i'm a life, enthusiast but the research world is truly,
alive and our progress in understanding human health and the human.
BODY i still think we're at the tip of the.
Iceberg but instead there's been a thought in my mind
for a long. Time do we live too short and
die too? Long so we're privileged to live for a

(01:07:20):
decent amount of. Time BUT i think that life expectancy
is going to continue to. Grow BUT i think our
opportunity will be to live much healthier lives for a.
LONGER i want to die, healthy AND i know that
sounds like a crazy statement to, make BUT i think
that's going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Possible do you think that's genuinely? Changing what's?

Speaker 9 (01:07:36):
YOU i?

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
MEAN i worry about asking people like you who operate
in your, world because everyone you would know would be
into it and, go, oh we're all healthy and. Stuff
do you think that message is getting through in general
in The western?

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
World, YES i, do BUT i feel the disparity is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Increasing SO i feel that there's this beautiful message coming
alive of let's look after. Ourselves what the impact you
have on your see today won't just affect how you feel,
today but also down also in the. Future but the
disparity between people having access to good health, care nutritious,
FOOD i think that's, widening and that's way more of a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Concersion and what's that. About is that about education or
is that about the economy or? Both, WELL i.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
WORRY i worry about the affordability of junk. Food WHEN
i was growing, up junk was really expensive and now
it's really. Cheap and THAT'S i feel that from an approach,
perspective that's where we really need to start to, focus
because the whole real food is what needs to be
less expensive so that it's easily accessible for.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
People and do you think people who, have, say for,
example bad, diet do they know they've got a Bed excuse, me,
no they've got a bad, diet or they don't. Know
they genuinely wouldn't have a.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
Clue some people won't have a.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
Clue BUT i think in, general no one's going to
polish off a whole tub of ice cream after dinner
Thinking i'm going to feel fabulous AFTER i eat. This
and it's not necessarily a lack of education that leads
people to do. That and it's why my work has
three pillars by, chemistry, nutrition and emotions or mindset if you,
Like and SO i think that mindset pillar is just
as important to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
You've got to be keen to do. It What i've
discovered is the it's a rabbit, hole and the more
you look down the rabbit. Hole the more there is
to know and. Learn and THAT'S i suppose what makes it,
fascinating doesn't? It but this is WHAT i read. Yesterday
headline is this is red meat bad for your. Heart
it may depend on who funded the. Study so that
was in The New York. Times so how much is out?

(01:09:29):
There you're, thinking that's the Way i'll hold. On, no it's.
NOT i, mean how many conflicted messages are they're out?

Speaker 7 (01:09:35):
There, well an endless, array isn't? There and you raise
such a great.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Point SO i try to bring common sense back to
these conversations around.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Food.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
Now so when we look at that at red, meat
humans have been eating consuming animal foods, forever for. Eons
what those animals, eat, though has changed in some. Countries
SO i look beyond that sort of data and look
at is that animal having WHAT i call a species specific,
Diet so other cows eating grass rather than being popped

(01:10:06):
up on other things like, grains for. Example because it
does change the fatty acid, Composition it changes all sorts of.
Things SO i look beyond that surface level of a
headline telling you that something is bad or.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Good, okay, inflammation if we could tackle there's another. Fascination
if we could tackle, inflammation how big a difference to
our lives health wise would we make game?

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Changing it's so, huge and it's the underlying element in
so many chronic. Diseases so when you think we're really
fortunate to have access to extraordinary emergency, medicine but what
we're not very good at dealing with right now is
lousy metabolic health and inflammation is one of the biggest
drivers of. That and, again to keep it really, simple
the way we nourish ourselves is the absolute foundation of

(01:10:48):
that sunlight movement. SLEEP i feel we've tried to make
health quite complex and some of the answers are actually really,
simple and we're not necessarily doing those.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Basics, well here's a funny THING i learned over the.
SUMMER a PERSON i know was a bit short on VITAMIN.
D where do you get VITAMIN?

Speaker 7 (01:11:04):
D sunshine?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Exactly so they, said go out into the sun with
no sunscreen on before ten o'clock in the. Morning but
the problem, was we've demonized the, sun and so all
we do is we slap it all over ourselves and
prevent the sun and the VITAMIN d getting. Through see
that's You mix's message, again isn't?

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
It isn't? It and it's so tricky for people to decipher,
it and it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Game.

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
WAY i love.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
Biochemistry so every cell in the human body has a
receptor for VITAMIN, d so that tells and also thyroid.

Speaker 7 (01:11:31):
Hormones but that tells.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Me if every cell in your body requ has a
receptor saying feed me some VITAMIN, d it's obviously very.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
Important Exactly see as complex as it, is actually not
that complex after. All is it can be simple if
you want it to.

Speaker 18 (01:11:45):
Be, well it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Is and that's why if we just think in a
common sense kind of, way so much nutrition information these,
days sadly is. Marketing if we bring it back to
just thinking about again a species specific. Diet same for.
Humans for so, long all we ever ate was. Food
and for, me there's no such thing as junk. Food
there's just junk and there's. Food and right now the
junk is featuring way too.

Speaker 15 (01:12:07):
Much.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Fantastic always a thrill to have you in the. Studio
thank you so, Much, mike come, again see, you. Sir
Dr Livy weaver eight twenty, Two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
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an industry of conflicting, messages common. Senses need to remember
when the food pyramid was in every classroom, fats but.
Etc we're, Bad, yes you're quite, right very good pizza
read in The Sydney Morning peril. Yesterday are the best

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foods for lowering your ld old. Levels this is cholesterol
and it's all the old. Favorites it's everything you, know, oats,
milk cereal with plant, sterols the, legumes the, salmon the.
Walnuts walnuts are fantastic for your, nuts generally as a
snack raw. Nuts you ever a bit? Peckish. Mike funnily,
ENOUGH i used to work For, fonterra managing one of
their consumer. Brands we used to do lots of consumer,

(01:13:42):
research asking people about their eating. Habits more often than,
not there was a group of people we used to
call the pizza and diet coke. Consumers they ate the,
pizza knowing it's not good for, them but they drink
the diet coke because in their mind that balances things,
up as hard as that may be to. Believe so
what don't we make Of? Liverpool they were celebrating the big.

(01:14:03):
Win they were, flying firing off flares and injuring each,
other and so that was bad. Enough but then there's
blow allegedly goes and drives into some people were still
trying to work out sort of how deliberate it. Was
is the remote of what's going? On we'll get the
update on, that we've got a winter fuel back. Down
that was With keirstarmer's suggesting over the week it's just

(01:14:23):
three and a half billion, pounds so not that it's not,
expensive so there's a backdown on. That then you've got
the benefit changes. Coming there's a lot going on In
britain at the. Moment this is why we've Got Rod
Little who's wh us after The news which is next
on the My Cosking. Breakfast The news talks every.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Talks Dad Been he's going to read on this From steve.
Tomorrow but it Seems i'm. Surprised MAYBE i sort of
forget these things and it becomes. Cyclical but The australian
is still going and they're still. Counting in, FACT i
was talking To liby Off air who lives In australia
and we were talking about the preference voting and how
you've got to rank all your votes and you've got

(01:15:12):
to rank them, all not just the ones you, know
and it's just. Anyway so now they've got an unusually
large number of votes in hospitals and age care centers
that had their votes rejected as, informal and The Australian
Electoral commissions going to examine the tripling of the rate
of informal votes collected by its special hospital. Teams, now

(01:15:32):
the interesting thing about that is not only they have
this suddenly surge of votes from these particular, institutions but
there's a series of seats around the, countries at least
three or four of, them whereby there are so many
of these votes it may actually change the results of the.
Seats so the more they, dig the more problems they.
Find but, anyway more From Steve tomorrow twenty two.

Speaker 18 (01:15:54):
To, Nine International correspondence with ends In Eye, Insurance peace
Of mind For New Zealand business on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Time we're going to get to THE, uk of, course
and wands with this Morning.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Mike good, Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Mike So i've been Watching liverpool over the last couple of.
Hours when they're, excited they have a, parade they're firing
off flaars at each. Other seventeen people are. Injured so
that's one part of the story until we get this
car and this bloke who has been. Arrested do we
know any more what?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Happened nothing at, All and my guess is we won't
know much for a long. Time what we know is
that The Daily, mail which is not usually first to say,
this has described him as a White british bloke in his.
Fifties so let's kind of rule out. Terrorism AND i

(01:16:39):
don't know why terrorists would Attack liverpool fans who are
pro a, massed you, know. Etc don't know the bridigous,
states so it's a it's a complete mystery at the.
Moment it seems like a. Grudge it could be in
evidence of WHAT i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
Know having said, that So starmer gets, Briefed does he
get briefed on anything that even looks close to this
or is this he getting brief because they know something
that's not public.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
In i'm sure they those things which aren't public. Yet
i'm sure they do, things And i'm sure That karstarmer
is told about. Them but for the rest of, us
we're in the same level of mystery as you. Are
it seems to, me you, know it's a wonderful day For,
liverpool for the city Of, liverpool not only Of. Liverpool

(01:17:26):
don very well evident they have done very well this.
Year it is a bizarre, occurrence and it seems to
me not to be connected to. TERRORISM i, MEAN i
may be proved, wrong but it is hard to imagine
why that would be a terrorist attacker from the profile
of the attacker and the profile of the people who were.

(01:17:48):
Attacked All, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
We'll see what. Happens there's winter, FUEL a couple of
things out of the. Government so there's winter. FUEL u.
Turn So stamer goes to the treasuring. Guys that'll be
three and a half. Billion you'll need to find thanks very.
Much how's this going to? Play has he solved the
problem or has he just dug himself a financial hole
or does he look like a guy can't make up his?

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
MIND i think the last of. THOSE i, mean it's
very interesting is THAT i think that refusing to give
the pension as winter fuel payments back In October September
october and then awarding doctors and train drivers a huge
pay rise was terribly bad optics for The Labor party

(01:18:28):
and for the government And Seki stama and has cost
them and cost them. Big, PARADOXICALLY i don't think that
reversing his policy gains him many. Votes do you know
WHAT i mean? THAT i think once you've made that,
decision what you made that decision to go back on,
it he looks a bit like. Weakness b you've got

(01:18:48):
it wrong first time. Around he's not going to pick
up many votes for, it and it will cost a
lot of. Money SO i think he is in huge
trouble here over. That partly over there's going to be
some sort of climb down over disability benefits as, well
which recks Completely Rachel reeves's plans to have us back

(01:19:12):
on a track for. Growth, however one is doing, abroad
But i'm not so sure he is at the. Moment
he is doing very very badly at.

Speaker 10 (01:19:23):
Home.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yeah and the funny you should say that BECAUSE i
read a piece over the weekend In american. Paper headline
Was starmer has delivered key wins for THE, Uk so
why is he so? Unpopular and so essentially it's just
what you've.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Said, well, YES i wonder if he. Has he did
at a trade deal With india which was quite good
but had. Ramifications he's now kind of negotiated a deal
with THE usa which at the moment looks very good,
indeed but we will see how it transpires When trump

(01:19:59):
has finished with that negotiating with THE. Eu the problem,
is you, Know, mike as we've talked, Before Foreign office
Of Foreign policy successes do not commend a prime minister
to the. Nation it's got to be at home and
that was true even Of Winston church in forty. Five

(01:20:19):
they couldn't have had a greater. Triumph so it doesn't
translate into. Votes what translates into votes is how much
money you've got in your. Pocket but what you're doing
about immigration? Now on immigration that's been cut in two
over the last, year but that's largely by conservative measures

(01:20:40):
which were brought in a year and a half. Ago
so he's in a very difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Spot and the other THING i Watched Angela rhino who
was on THE bbc over the. Weekends this two child
benefit cap which during the campaign or just after the,
CAMPAIGN i can't. Remember they, said we're not changing it's
a two child that's now they're backing down on. That
what's the rationale behind that and how does that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
PLAY i don't get that at. ALL i think most
of the country is behind the idea of a cap
on a two benefit on two. Children it is start
giving into his left wing at the same time as
enraging his left. Wing always statements about, migration statements About Enoch,

(01:21:21):
power or which are alluding To Enoch. POWELL i think
he is kind OF i think the compass is going
to ry and he doesn't know what he's aiming at
at the, moment AND i think that is a real
problem for the. Future it's why they're nine points behind
reforming the, polls and that gap to me seems look to.

(01:21:42):
Grow it seems likely to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Larger just real, Quick who do you reckons burning down his?

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
HOUSES i am too worried to tell, you to be,
honest there's loads of conspiracy theories on the right which
are all About Skeir, starmer given that all three of
these guys who were accused of or have worked as rent,
boys but they ARE i am genuinely really worried about, This.

(01:22:09):
MIKE i think this is a problem which THE uk
is going to have to grapple with because the sniff
Of russian involvement is too strong to be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Dispelled, well we will see where it goes and catch
up with you On. Thursday appreciate it has always rod
a little out of THE. Uk the rail WHICH i
briefly mentioned, yesterday a chunk of the rail service and
that part of the world Of Southwestern railway has been
renationalized and it reopened On, Sunday monday. Yesterday at their time,
out it's a new dawn For. RAYEL i did allude
yesterday to the fact the five point thirty, six which

(01:22:41):
was the first service From working To surbiton through the
ongoing journey To, waterloo was a bus not a, train
so they didn't start particularly. Well. Unfortunately THE swr trains
and now the responsibility of THE, dft which is The
department For transport their particular operation and it will be
integrated Into Great British RAILWAYS. Gbr the problem With Great

(01:23:06):
British railways is they don't even exist because MPs haven't
voted for it to. Exist so they've renationalized a line
that they put a bus for on day one to
be overseen by a company that doesn't exist because they haven't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
Voted so here's your new train. Service we've wrapped it
up in this nice big ball of red tape for.
You it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Level it's So, british isn't. It eight forty Five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
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B always a fan of, COMPETITION i note that quantus
over the summer period are going to end up having
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which IS i guess somewhat ironic but good for the.
Punter so up to twenty percent for the summer. Period
this is sort of Mid december to the end Of.
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(01:23:55):
auckland seven from Christ, jurch five From. Wellington if you
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(01:24:16):
going On, neglenn THOUGH i know some of some of
those provincial scent is not quite getting the love that
they might. Want now back to this coffee, Business So
Raglan roast which is in the Way catto and a
number of you have said over the, years every time
we discussed, coffee the Name Raglan roast comes. Up, ANYWAY
i got contacted by the PEOPLE i buy my beans,
from which are regular, Roasts Bitches brew And, wipa which

(01:24:38):
is a tiny settlement north Of, auckland and they're they're
the ones to go. With, Anyway i've been paying AND
i can't remember what it, is but at the Time i'm,
thinking this isn't, bad given what Everything i've heard about,
coffee this isn't. Bad then we got from The Consumer
Price index this business of instant coffee last week or
was it the week, before at eight on average eight
dollars twenty one per hundred. Gram SO i do the.

(01:24:59):
Numbers it's two twenty one bucks a, bag twenty one
dollars for two hundred and fifty, grams which is your standard.
Beanbag so twenty one dollars makes it more expensive or
did make it more expensive than the? Beans, now the
Beans i'm told by my people are over the weekend
have gone up forty nine percent green beans so far this. Year,
Well Raglan roast this morning are busy telling us their
green beans have gone by seventy. Seven SO i don't

(01:25:21):
know who they're buying their greens beans, from but they
need to go where the bitch, Is brugo because seventy,
seven eight forty nine or forty nine eight seventy, seven
that's just in six. Months so they're blaming the following
tougher growing. Conditions, yes we knew about global. Shortages yes
we knew about that rising shipping. Costs now hold on,
here that's got a touch of the old post covids to. Me,
personally we've been absorbing as much as this as we possibly,

(01:25:44):
can trimming the, fat staying. Scrappy well that's good. Anyway
but as of the end of this, month the prices
online and in store going up by sixteen to twenty one,
Percent so that's big. Bucks AND i read an article
the other day from somebody who, said, my what's it
drink you had with the coff with the milk flat?

(01:26:04):
White my flat white's just gone to seven bucks seven
dollars and you should keep drinking. It and they argued
why at seven dollars they should. Be But i'll tell
you WHAT i was also told yesterday or the day
before the true cost of coffee if you do the
flat white with milk given the dairy prices the actual
cost they were claiming if you paid everything that goes into,

(01:26:26):
it twelve fifty is the actual cost they were, claiming
and therefore they you can't wouldn't knowing it ever turn
up ever, Again so so you.

Speaker 15 (01:26:35):
Reckon the, shipping like given that quite a lot of
coffee comes from Your South american, region doesn't, it Or,
Africa and so you've got your The panama Can now
who's running that at the, Most.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Well america's Running panamaca's marchio went down there cheaper or,
well they'll be the. Teriff but but they'll be But
panama will be paying the. Tariff so unless we have
to eat. It, See i'm already.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Comma so we've got to drink the terraffs as.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
WELL i don't know what we're drinking in the meeting,
them swallowing them eight minutes away from, nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Be weally a good, Point. Mike don't forget the dollar
doesn't help the. Importer that's a very Good it's. TRUE,
bmw by the, way testing now their solid state. Battery
this is the holy grail FOR ev solid state if
you can do. It they don't know if they. Can
but they've been working for years with a company In
america called Solid. Power they've whacked it in a nice,
seven which is a big luxury, limousine and they're looking for, longer, faster,

(01:27:29):
brighter you, Know Steve boston type stuff and if it,
works then, Boom we're all going to buy AN. Ev
but they don't know if it's going to. Work but
it's the first time they've done really.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
POWER i suppose he, was wasn't he very?

Speaker 21 (01:27:40):
Much?

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Oh, yeah? No he was like a six million dollar man.
Image what you get for six million dollars you can
get a garage and who in Viabed apart from that
five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Now he used to be able to get a whole,
Person not. Anymore this cheese rolling Hill CLIMB roll seven
races over all was held In gloucester Overnight, Brockworth, gloucester
first race That german YouTuber we featured on the. Program
he won it for the second year in a. Row
no one's been taking to. Hospital one spectator in the
first race had to be. Airlifted where did they lift

(01:28:14):
them To Kentucky fried or? Something, well if you don't
get airlifted to go, nowhere you get airlifted to the. Hospital.
Anyway someone won in A superman costume women's. Race twenty
year old Called ava got the. Wind she said she
couldn't remember the journey after hitting a head and she
doesn't actually like. Cheese one woman joined the mixed, race
which is up and, downhill simply because she left her

(01:28:35):
phone at the top of the. Hill she ended up winning.
Then and this is the lead story on the six
o'clock news tonight Because Byron smith's The kiwi and he
won the third.

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
Race feels, great yeah, Before YEAH i did last YEAR
i come.

Speaker 7 (01:28:49):
Second in my head THOUGHT i could do it this,
year AND i did.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Excellent what's your technique to deep run as fast as they?

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Can try and get back Up last YEAR i couldn't
get it back up this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
Year that last YEAR i couldn't get it back, up
and NOW i. Can that's the little key where you
Could last YEAR i couldn't get it back, up and
NOW i. Can and he only came second or third
in his heat last. Year didn't even realize there were.
Heats there were heats for, races seven, races multiple. Heats,
NOW i wonder somebody got airlifted To, kentucky.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
FRIGHT i, mean it's a big, price given the price
of cheese these, days.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Well, exactly the dairy prices through the roof what once
was a six million dollar block of. Cheese you could
buy a man awesome cheese. Nake you can't get anything.
Right that's enough of that and we'll reconvene at six
o'clock tomorrow, morning as, Always Happy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
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