Full Show Podcast: 28 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your source of breaking news, Challenging Avillion and honors backs,
the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Veda Retirement, Communities, Life
Your Way News, togs headb.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning and welcome today. The Prime Minister on his time
in Gallipoli and rhyme changes to the way we roll
out those charges for the EV's. We got gang trouble
in hawks Bay. We've got celebration of the author the
FC speaking of sport the lads in the commentary box,
of course. Richard Arnold state side. Steve Price on the
election trail in Australia pasking, I welcome to the new week,
seven past six. Tell you it's going to be quite
a sight in christ Church when the new stadium is

(00:32):
full of Warriors fans. I mean, yes, it was a
sellout on Anzac night, but you suspect the seventeen thousand
is not the maximum amount of love that the Warriors
have in that particular part of the world. But the
deal signed for several years. It does seem the idea
of a second team now and the NRL is gone.
But that's before you get to the news also that
the NRAL had pretty much stitched together this arrangement that
we'll see a team from Western Australia into the competition anyway,

(00:54):
with a side like the Warriors to support. No matter
where in the country you are, who needs another team
for goodness sake? Then the celebrations Shan's nickel clock start
signs up until the end of twenty seven. Jackson Ford
played his fiftieth game Starred with the Ball on the
night the Knights got put to the sword. The Knights
aren't that good, of course, and when good sides play
not so good sides, what you're wanting to see is
a disciplined professional display that shows the gap between the two,

(01:17):
and that is what we got. We know this because
we've been here before. But on the other side of
the equation, I mean, in past years we've been the
bottom of the table, operated done like a dinner by
a quality side that showed no mercy. Once again, if
you forget Vegas, we've won every game bar Melbourne. Melbourne
was a brain explosion that got rectified at half time,
but by then it was too late, so we deserve
the lost. But that aside, How goold do we look?

(01:39):
How together do we look? For goodness sake? This week
it was over at halftime, the result never looked in doubt,
and with the dogs falling the top of the table
gap has closed and we are right there. It would appear,
even with the injuries, were a very solid side with depth,
capable of beating pretty much anyone. There is now a consistency,
don't you think that's been missing in other years? And

(01:59):
at the risk of Metcalf and his kicking is still
an issue and something needs to be done about that.
You can hide that stuff on good days, but there
will be plenty of games. Last week was one of
them where points left on the table had the potential
to haunt us. But for now five from seven right
up the top of the table pointing into the table,
good vibes all round. We can increasingly, I think confidently,
say this is our use.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
News of the world in ninety seconds on.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
The Canadian election carnage and Vancouver, as you will, where
I'm sure eleven are killed as a nutter drives a
car into a crowded market.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
I saw that one man on the ground and I
went up.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
I go further towards the end where the car went.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Then there's more.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Cut loppy, and I can you can see straight away
there's about twenty thirty maybe twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
People down a local councilor so it's a great, wonderful bad,
huge community pan.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And have ending tragedy like this.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
It won't make us for the community, but.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
The Prime Minister, we will comfort to grieving, we will
care for each other, we will unite in common purpose.
A couple of things in Britain. The London Marathon has
been run and one but not without the obligatory Palestinian protest.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Two demonstrators from a group called the Youth Demand. They
jumped over the barrier and appear to throw a red
powder paint over the bridge. Now fortunately it didn't seem
to descrupt the runners as they were making way through
the course.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And then this ongoing rumor come theme, come idea that
for the Tories to get competitivet the gain they're going
to need to cut some sort of deal with the
Reform Party. Now that it's poor audio, but that is
the Tory MP Robert Jenneric, this is the Tory leader,

(03:56):
Kimmy Bednot.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
We need to bring back all those people who left
the Concert Party to go to Reform. We do need
to bring that coalition back. Just as I want to
see the people who left us to go to lib
Dams or to go to liber coming back. That doesn't
mean I want a coalition with liber or Libdams.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Finally, proof that anything Titanic is still worth coin if
you're figure. I got a letter maya passenger and survivor,
Colonel Archibald Gracie, days before the ship sank. It's gone
under the hammer it was expected to fix. They thought
about one hundred and thirty four thousand ish dollars went
for six hundred and seventy thousand highest piers for any
on board correspondence. A. Gracie's account of the sinking is
among the best known from the survivors. He later wrote

(04:31):
the book The Truth About the Titanic. Here's the world
in ninety seconds ago. Good news and bad news. You
want bad news first, let's the bad news for South
Korea's quarterly GDP, first contraction since twenty twenty, so they're
not particularly happy about that. The better news for us,
especially as that China's industrial profits returned to growth for
the fourth first quarter. Cumulatively, industrial firms in China up

(04:52):
zero point eight percent, bringing in about four hundred billion
dollars in that quarter. So We'll take all good news.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Twelve minutes past.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
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Speaker 2 (05:08):
I have further reasonably good news the negotiations. I'm sure
you're where the Americans and the Iranians are getting together
on an increasingly a third round. We're up to Muscat
was where the talks were held, six hours worth of talks.
This time they're saying negotiations extremely serious and technical. There
are still differences on both major issues and on detail,

(05:30):
but they remain confident, which is good. Fifteen past six
seven Management, Greg Smith, Morning to you, Morning to Mike.
So tariff's story, according to Trump's done over two hundred deals,
so things must be coming right. Would that be true
or not? Greg?

Speaker 10 (05:45):
Yeah, they might be stretching it a little bit, but
we're worth to see, won't we. But you're talking about negotiations,
it seems a little bit of brightness, suppose on both
sides this obviously game of tariff chicken run.

Speaker 9 (05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (05:55):
That big development last week was Trump saying that one
hundred and forty five percent TAOS on Chinese imports wouldn't
be that high, or that Chinese that need to give
him something though clean be able to having more use
goods being sold. So it does seem like the stance
is softening a bit. You know, you have to think
that you know the numbers and he put on that board,
you know, the triple digit tariffs. Yeah, pretty ridiculous when

(06:16):
you sort of think about it. So reports that China
obviously it's been going toe to toe. They're mulling the
suspension of the one hundred and twenty five percent tariff
and stuff like medical equipment, industrial chemicals. So he just
won the mic. We've passed peak trade warfare and to
invest his have less calls to be terrified about the outcome.

Speaker 11 (06:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (06:33):
Perhaps, so there's been a lot of bravado from the
Trump administration. But yeah, that I was thinking a lot
of it was doing with the initial tariff tantrum, which
might be settling down a bit. You know, maybe Trump
realize there's a lot of stuff that the US can't
make and the quantities they need at anytime soon, particularly
from China, and iPhones is just one example. So he
obviously wants to back down without losing face. And so

(06:54):
it was all part of the master plan. But you know,
he said also over the weekend that he considers tariffs
of twin need fifty percent on foreign countries a year
from there as being a victory. And as you said,
he reckons is around a bit two hundred deals coming.
He said China as in fact that was Scott Beast
in the traity sectory over the weekend said that there
was a special negotiation underway with China. So maybe more

(07:16):
twists and turns. I note that also reports that China
is preparing contingency plans in case things don't work out.

Speaker 11 (07:22):
So yeah, stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, So how domestically is that affecting America?

Speaker 9 (07:26):
Yet?

Speaker 10 (07:26):
If it is, it is so I think, you know,
part of the softening of the stance is obviously the
stock market volatility, but it is also having a real
impact on the economy. So a few numbers here, So
on Friday use existing home sales, they fell almost six percent,
four million units. Immature of existing homes jumped eight percent.
Supplies up nearly twenty percent on a year ago, So

(07:46):
we got higher borign costs. And of course, you know
the terror policy is also complicating what the Fed looks
to do on on bringing down rates further. You've got
lumber prices are shooting up thanks to tariffs. You got
general concerns over economic slow down. You got new homes
in the tree at the high since late two thousand
and seven. Then you look at durable goods orders, so
you look at the proxy for business spending plans and

(08:09):
you exclude aircraft from the equation. Eached up just zero
point one percent in March. So my businesses are cautious
this is going to filter through to the economy. We've
got GDP out this week for the March quarter. We're
expecting growth of just half percent, and that compares to
two point four percent in the fourth quarter. On the
manufactured goods print that did serge nine point two percent.

(08:30):
That that was driven by commercial aircraft orders and they up
one hundred and thirty eight percent buying head on its
website that it receives one hundred and ninety two aircraft
orders in March from thirteen and thir Of course, China
has a ban on the miss things stand and ironically,
tourism is looking like another drag in the economy.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Mike.

Speaker 10 (08:49):
So foreign visitors to the US by AFOL nearly ten
percent in March four and a half million now This
is a big concern for the US travel windustry. It
brings in a trillion a year and meanwile inflation expectations
as we know. Picking up the final University of Michigan
survey had the one year outlook at six and a
half percent. Now that's the highest since November ninety eighty one.

(09:09):
So yeah, tough spot for the feed MIC or at
least Jerome Powell isn't in the firing line anymore according
to Trump.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
No, and then we got Alphabet who came to the
party with some some nice eye watering numbers.

Speaker 10 (09:21):
Yeah, that's what Lots of big tech stocks on the
up on fighting, including Tesser it was up nearly ten percent.
But Alfabet their owns Google that was up one and
a half percent. That be on the top and bottom line.
Search and advertising units going pretty well. Revenue for the
quarter about a billion more and expected ninety two point
two billion. YouTube's going pretty well. Google Google Cloud revenue
was strong.

Speaker 11 (09:41):
Alfabet said.

Speaker 10 (09:41):
Aiovu's overviews, which is its AI tool, place at the
top of the Google search page and now has one
point five billion users per month. That's going pretty well.
They did talk about the tariff situation. They said there
will be some headwinds, including the ending of this deminimous
trade loophole, which stops are on May second. So that
basically means that shipments with less than eight hundred bucks

(10:05):
ken into the US duty three not anymore, and that'll
fit advertising from likes of Timur and Shine. Despite some
caution of the outlook here now is going pretty well
for Apple. Crawling needn't come up forty six percent to
thirty four point five billion, so she is a high
one tech which was lowers. Intel down nearly seven percent.
The chip maker issued disappointing guidance and talked about very

(10:27):
fluid trade policies as the reason. So we'll see what
other companies are saying this week. We've got a delu
jaburnings lots of big tech names as well, so that'll
be interesting.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Good stuff. Numbers please, so they're on the up.

Speaker 10 (10:38):
On Friday, the dawn I was up twenty points forty
or one one three s and P five hundred point
seven percent five five to two five, Nastick up one
point three percent, forty one hundred one point one percent,
nick I up one point nine percent. So Japanese PM
announced some measures to conflict what we're seeing on the
on the tariff and trade front. Acex two hundred and
INSIDEX fifty of course closed for day. Ut lest we

(11:01):
forget spot goald down thirty dollars three three twenty wtiol
up twenty three cents sixty three spot O two. In
the currency's key, we lower against the US fifty nine
point six, strain dollar ninety three point two. Lower also
against the pound forty four point eight, but we were
high against the end eighty five point seven. This week,
Mike Lot's going on locally business confidence building, permits and offshore,

(11:24):
We've got GDPN inflation data of the US and the Eurozone,
China manufacturing data also for the US and the US
non farm payrolls Bank of Japan. They are also meeting,
and big week for earnings. We've got in the supercap
tech names, we've got Microsoft, Meta, Apple and Amazon. And
then the more sort of traditional end of the scar
we'll got Visa, Caterpillar, Coca Cola, and McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So Lot's going on, jeez, we'll look forward to it
all well. The mate grief Smith. Devon Funds Management IBM
was the other big player who reported that it's some
very nice numbers. They performed well this year. The nasdacks
down fourteen percent, but they're up eleven percent. So they'll
take that revenue at fourteen and a half billion dollars.
They're amazing numbers, aren't they Revenues up half a point
for twenty five. They think I'm going to continue to
travel very nicely.

Speaker 9 (12:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
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Speaker 1 (12:14):
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Speaker 2 (12:21):
Poles Galore. This morning Richard Arnold with a bunch of
them as Trump approaches one hundred days. Of course, the
final debate was held last night on Australian television. I'll
work you through that in a couple of moments. But
to poll out to back that up this morning, and
once again it is not good news for one particular party.
And then of course we've got the polls this time
tomorrow will be basically wrapping up the Canadian election. Polling there,
I'll work you through shortly. That's interesting as well. Six

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twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
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Speaker 2 (12:48):
If you follow the NFL, you will have been watching
over the last couple of days the annual draft. So
outside of the top handful of prospects, the big noise
was around this guy called Sanders. Shedua Sanders. He's a quarterback.
He's the son of the great Dion Sanders. Holds Colorado
single season passing yards, completions, touchdown records, along with the
host of other stuff. It's also the Big twelve Offensive
Player of the Year. That's one of the top three

(13:10):
awards in college football. In some NFL draft scenarios, he
was supposed to be as high as the third pick
and the second quarterback behind the number one pick, which
was a guy called cam Ward. Except none of us
came to pass, and before you knew it, it was the
fifth round and he was Pack one hundred and forty four,
and he went eventually to the Cleveland Browns and they thought, well,

(13:30):
if he was at the top of the draft, he'd
be earning about forty million dollars by way of a contract.
So the rumor mill started at that point, as this racism,
is it collusion by team owners not to pick them?
What's his dad's role in all of this? But now
we hear the other side There are multiple reports suggesting
his team interviews didn't go particularly well. He demanded the
world he had a higher opinion of himself, told teams
he was going to play the way he wanted to play,

(13:51):
not going to change. Is he cocky or is he confident?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Goat Annabel teams me, goat athlete to do a.

Speaker 12 (13:57):
Sander goat musician actor Tyler Sanders goat TV show Close Fronts.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
So that's where he's at. Anyway, you compare it to
a guy called Keon Coleman, who's a wide receiver. He
was taken by the Bills in the thirty third pick.
The Bills like this, what do you.

Speaker 11 (14:12):
Do ours on football? Chill at has no bowl A
little bit, I ain't.

Speaker 13 (14:19):
I'm tager.

Speaker 11 (14:19):
Wishy could and I tager would control chaos.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
You know you frustrated, but you can't get mad.

Speaker 11 (14:26):
So it forces me to stay calm and just swing.
Just have some funds.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Not a bad line, isn't it, Tiger wish you could?
The ev charging business will get into in just a
couple of moments. The idea is and what I can't
work out. Here's the problem we're going to face. So
the government of changing the rules very simply. It goes
from a grant to a loan. Is an interest free lione,
so you're gonna have to pay the money back. This
is for the private sector who want to put charges
up and down the country. Now, my problem, and it
may well be resolved in a couple of moments. My

(14:51):
problem is going to be is that charges aren't really
the issue to EV's in this country. The issue to
EV's in this country is we don't like EV's, we're
not interested in and you can put charges up and down.
And the other thing is what sort of charges are they?
Are they the slow charges that you don't want to
use anyway? Or are they the super fast charges? And
do we solve the problem with us anyway? More on
this after the.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
News, the News and the news makers the Mic Hosking
Breakfast with the range Rover villa designed to intrigue and
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Speaker 2 (15:22):
Is It All Over? Last debate last night on Australian television.
More than half of all voters in this morning's poll
believe Dutton and the Coalition not ready to govern. Sixty
two percent of Australians if you believe the pole, don't
think Dutton's up for it. They do not believe he
can run the country, a seven point increase since polling
started asking that question in February, strongest among women, sixty
six percent don't believe it in fifty eight percent of men.

(15:44):
So is it over before it's over? Steve Price with
us after eight thirty twenty three minutes away from seven ten,
one hundred days, and does Trump there's a slow poles
there as well to deal with. Richard Harndeld shortly meantime
back here, a little bit of a change up to
the way the government is approaching evening. Infrastructure grants will
now turn into loans, interest free loanes, sixty nine million
dollars worth of them for the private sector to build

(16:05):
charges up and down this beautiful country of ounce. The
promise is ten thousand. Of course by twenty thirty. Charge
Netboard member Stephen England Hall is whether Stephen, very good
morning to.

Speaker 14 (16:12):
You, Good morning mine.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Does the loan grant thing change the landscape or not?

Speaker 9 (16:17):
Really?

Speaker 14 (16:18):
I think it does. Yeah, it certainly makes more capital
available for the development of infrastructure networks like ev charging.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
What should, in your view, the government's role in this
whole thing be? If he needs I think a government.

Speaker 14 (16:31):
Yeah, the government's role here is really an enabler, and
I think the approach with concessionary loans does make that
because it makes that role more formal. Grants are really
helpful to get us industry catalyzed and off the ground.
But we're at a point where we're trying to emerge
into a scalable, rough bust sustainable model, and so moving
to a loans structure, almost a public private partnership structure,

(16:52):
really means that capital is going to be allocated under
competition to those people with great business plans, good models,
and and good know how to make these things happen.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Is the money at risk? Is anyone going to not
pay it back? Do you think?

Speaker 14 (17:05):
Well, the money is always at risk when it comes
to a loan type facility, But we would expect that
with the appropriate structures and governance in place, the right
people will have the right decisions will be made, the
money will be presented to the people with the right
capabilities and skills and sufficient capital themselves to see it through.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Of all the hurdles facing EV and the big EV story,
where do you reckon charges on the road side fits,
I don't think it's.

Speaker 14 (17:29):
Going to be one of the bigger ones. Particularly as
EV's continue to increase their share of overall transport, the
availability of charge points for consumers would maybe individuals or
businesses becomes increasingly necessary to ensure that EV adoption continues
to grow at a reasonable page.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
So you would say that I would disagree with you.
I think most people who've got EV's charge in the
garage at night, don't they they pop out to their
ten k's to work, their pop home, they charge it
up overnight. That's really what people are charging. The number
of people who charge on the street is minimal or
am I completely wrong?

Speaker 9 (18:02):
No?

Speaker 14 (18:03):
I think at the current level we are seeing most
of eighty percent of charging, generally speaking, happens at home
because it's genly convenient. It's like having your own petrol
station garretts right downstairs. It's it's easy, it's convenient, and
it's really really cost effective, given that you know, running
an EV versus a petrol diesel car can be as
much as you know, seven times cheaper per kilometer of use.

(18:23):
If you're charging at home, that becomes very economic. But
what you sort of there's two things really happening. One
is when you're not at home and you're on the
road doing things, or you're running a business. You need
high capacity, high speed charging. You're not going to do
that over a twelve hour periods. You want to do that,
you know, five or fifteen minutes to get decent range.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Which was my next question. Are these charges being rolled
out top of the line, in other words, they're going
to pump you full of gas fast or are we
going to get caught out? Technologically, well, the.

Speaker 14 (18:51):
EV technology continues to change. But the key thing is
the charging unit itself is a relatively inexpensive part of
the installation of charging ecosystem. It's connections to your local
rhymes companies that's building their infrastructure and transformers that's clearly
wide to the ground to put your charges in. That's
also really expensive. So long as that's well planned. The

(19:11):
EV charge itself will evolve over time. They're getting new
one and fast ones and bigger ones. But I'll just
use the same underlying infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Okay, text for you texts, We've got text you ready.
EV use the stations as car parks, you plug in
your park, you do it for free? Is that true
or not?

Speaker 14 (19:27):
Well know, because the EV charger you usually pay. The
company that runs the EV charge point will be paying
ground rent for that for their parking space for that car,
And when you're charging, you're effectively charging both for parking
as well as for the energy.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Okay, second question. The trouble with super fast EV charging
stations is you need a small nuclear power plant EA
charging site true or not?

Speaker 13 (19:47):
Not true?

Speaker 14 (19:48):
You need you need proper distributed energy management, so you've
got proper tools to make sure you balance the demand
balance the network needs not just for EV charges but
for all ultracy users.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
All right, seven, appreciate your expertise very much. Go well,
Stephen England Hall, who's the charge net board member? I
can tell you, by the way, speaking of cars and
EV's European car sales and March, you're up.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Now?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Why am I telling you this? Because it's interesting because
Tesla's in the same market over the same period of
time went backwards twenty eight point two percent. So if
you don't think he's got an image problem, you're not awake.
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the way, weimo an Outstaird of the weekend are two
hundred and fifty thousand paid robot taxi rides per week
in the US, which is up from two hundred thousand
and February. They're in Austin. They've expanded into San Francisco,
so they're at two hundred and fifty thousand. Is that
a lot? Is that the future? I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
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Speaker 2 (21:34):
State, Tid Richard Armandery, Good morning to you, morning Mike.

Speaker 7 (21:37):
Speaking of Waymo, someone told me the other day they
saw one of these things running around in San Francisco
and the only thing on board was a dog with
no dogs have credit cards.

Speaker 13 (21:46):
But there you go.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
What do we make of the photo the two cheers
and the funeral? I mean, is this leading anywhere?

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Nice cheers went't there?

Speaker 13 (21:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:55):
No, This could be a significant few days in determining
whether the Russia Ukraine peace effort is getting anywhere. Marco Rubio,
the US Secretary of State, says that Trump this week
will decide whether to continue the process.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
As Rubio, this week is going to be a really
important week in which we have to make a determination
about whether this is an endeavor that we are wanting
to continue to be involved in, but we want to
see it happen. There are reasons to be optimistic, but
there are reasons to be realistic of course as well.
We're close, but we're not close enough.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
So that's a diplomatic talk for you. Trump just came
away from those private talks with Ukraine Zelenski at the
Vatican where both, of course, we're attending funeral services for
Le Pope Francis. Zelenki was cheered by the crowd when
he arrived. Trump walked into that stony silence. They were
shown all over here and standing out as the only
person because wearing a blue suit in sead of the
black suit the Vatican had advised. These talks were the

(22:43):
first between the two since the debacle at the White
House back in February, when Trump accused Zelensky of gambling
with World War three potentially and Zelenski left without signing
that rare earth minerals deal that they had mapped out.
This time, the two were leaning in and zelenskia said
it was a good, perhaps even quoite, a very symbolic
meeting with the potential to become historic if results or

(23:05):
a chieve. Zelenski has said a little beyond that, except
saying it was amitting.

Speaker 15 (23:11):
I didn't want to go to Pelloto details.

Speaker 14 (23:14):
If it's possible because two questions were a sensitive icialess.

Speaker 13 (23:19):
On of course, totally, it's a wild how to bring this.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
What we do see is some atmospheric changes. Russia's foreigner
is de Laverov gave a rare interview to an American
network today CBS, asserting that Russia is ready to talk
and to reach some deal. Trump, of course has opened
the endorsed even before there's any direct negotiation, seating CRIMEA
and all recently taken Ukrainian territory over to Russia and
a nine Ukraine NATO memberships. So that's the art of

(23:45):
the deal? Is it surrendering before you even negotiate. So Trump,
for the first time has posted on social media some
costic criticism of Putin's attack on Ukrainian civilians last week,
The Deadliest Sense of July of last year. Trump wrote quo,
maybe maybe Putin doesn't want to stop the war and
is just tapping the Americans along. Huh. Former US National
Security advisor under Biden, Jack Sullivan says of the Trump post.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
It gives me the first fliver of hope.

Speaker 13 (24:10):
I've had in a while.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
But again, are we heading for a breakthrough or a breakdown?

Speaker 9 (24:14):
So far, of.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Course, we do not know.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
No, we do not, but we do know. Come Wednesday,
our time, Tuesday, you'll time it. One hundred days, big day.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah, there's a sewer of polls out now in advance
of that one hundred day marker. Most showed Trump underwater.
Several give Trump the worst favorability of any US president
at this one hundred day point in eighty years. In
the ABC poll, Trump has thirty nine percent approval. That
is down by six points since February. On Trump's signature issues,
the poll has seventy two percent thinking it is very

(24:43):
or somewhat likely that Trump policies will lead to a recession.
Seventy three percent in this poll say the economy is
in bad shape. Fifty two percent say it is worse
since Trump took office. On immigration, of course, another signature
Trump issued, fifty three percent in that poll say they disapproved.
Two percent say they do not think Trump respects the
rule of law. So that's one survey. Fox News also

(25:05):
has a poll out which Trump is attacking, as you've
been noting. They ask you, is the Trump team competent
at managing the federal government?

Speaker 9 (25:12):
No?

Speaker 7 (25:12):
Is the response by a nine point margin. Do they
approve of his handling of the economy. No, by an
eighteen point margin. Do you approve of what Elon Musk
has been up to in terms of federal government cutbacks? No,
by a seventeen point margin. Are the Trump tariffs helping
the US economy?

Speaker 10 (25:28):
No?

Speaker 7 (25:28):
By a twenty three point margin. Do you approve the
way the Trump team is dealing with inflation?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
No?

Speaker 7 (25:34):
By a twenty six point margin. Can Trump ignore the
courts when it comes to immigration issues?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
No?

Speaker 7 (25:40):
By a forty nine percent margin. And all the poles
are done a similar the NBC CBS Pure Economists polls
or put Trump Underwater. The Trumps team says, actual consumer
spending is up, but a lot of that, as we've
been saying in recent days, is fueled by panic buying
before car prices and other big ticket prices go up. Meantime,
Trump team says, only the media puts faint polls. And

(26:01):
as for the media, typically on this day we'd be talking,
wouldn't we about comedy sketches and jokes from the annual
Correspondent's Dinner last night? But this year, with Trump threats
to the media, they canceled the comedian at the dinner
with President Trump refusing also to attend, so apparently no
time for jokes.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Good on you, mat ketch up in a couple of days,
Richard Arnold State site for It's just also this morning
out of that same part of the world, the Agriculture
Secretary Brooke Rowlins, government's preparing to cut a deal for
American farmers with China. So they're bleeding because of China.
They've also got this understanding that nobody seems to be
able to explain. Certainly Rolands couldn't the claim from Trump

(26:36):
and Time magazine that he's made two hundred deals in
the wave of wake up sweeping teriff reforms. He's made
two hundred trade deals. Bessent Scott Bessent was Treasury Secretary,
was asked about it as well. He goes, well, they
could be sub deals, whatever the hell that means. And
the real story that no one seems to have picked
up on that I cannot believe that somebody hasn't been arrested.

(26:58):
So the Trump Mean coin. They announced last week that
if you're one of the top wallet holders, you get
to have dinner with the president. So everyone starts buying
Trump memes and guess what happens to the price, Oh gosh,
it goes up. So you go on the twenty second
of May to the dinner special reception for the twenty
five wallet holders, a VIP white house tour. The following

(27:19):
day market caps at two point seven billions, down seventy
percent since it's peak in January. But the presidents saying,
the people who buy the most number of coins get
to come to dinner with me and have a white
house tour, and no one from the feeds anywhere is
looking for handcuffs.

Speaker 13 (27:35):
Do you remember how angsty we got when one of
our prime ministers signed a picture.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Once exactly and this was before Trump said it's a
good time to buy. Somehow, the rules don't seem to
apply in America. Nine minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
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Speaker 2 (27:53):
Morning, Mike is the Prime Minister on here today or
later this week? Please confirm, Gary, I can confirm, Gary,
I can confirm the primes is going to be with
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away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
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Speaker 2 (28:14):
Now more economic insight. The uncertain economy continuing because a
bit of worry for the US citizens and their grocery bills.
This is the economy under both Biden, didn't Biden look
dreadful than Rome and now worsened under Trump. More and
more Americans are turning, if you can believe this, to
buy now, pay later, to buy groceries. So this is
a survey conducted to people aged between eighteen and seventy nine.

(28:34):
About half of them said they'd use by now, pay later,
so that's probably not unusual. Let's buy our pay later
just for anything. Of those half, twenty five percent half
of a quarter of half said that we're using them
for groceries, which is up from fourteen percent in twenty
twenty four and twenty one percent in twenty twenty three.
Forty one percent made a late payment on their loan

(28:55):
in the last year. That's up from thirty four percent.
So things are tightening and the great debate is on
as to whether we're going to be heading a recession
or not. I know, by the way, just before I forget,
the Bank of England had Andrew Bailey over the weekend.
He sort of backed up what the IMF was saying
last week, and that is the whole world is slowing
down because of this taroff mess. But he doesn't in
Britain see a recession, So that's the encouraging part of that.

(29:16):
But speaking of buy now, pay later, the most disturbing partner.
I don't know whether it's the sign of the times
and we've all given up or we're just hopeless with
our money and we don't know how to behave any better.
But a growing number of travelers are using buying our
pay later for flights and hotels and cruises and a stall.
That seems to be the most ridiculous thing in the
world to carry debt to pay for a holiday, a house. Yes,

(29:38):
if you're desperate food, I can understand it, but a
little sojuned to Mi Yorker, are you serious, gen Z Millennials,
of course they are most likely to use a bit
of debt. The value of travel bookings has increased by
fifty percent on buying our pay Later in the last year.
There now there's one firm called our firm. They're volumes

(29:59):
up thirty eight percent. They've crossed the billion dollar mark
a billion dollars worth of holidays spending on buy now,
pay later. Is it old fashioned to suggest if you
can't afford a holiday, taking out a line is probably
not the smartest thing you ever did. Police Minister Mark Mitchell,
we've got a couple of things to cover off with
him and Chris luxon after seven thirty.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
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Speaker 2 (30:30):
I'm onring seven past seven. Got gang trouble in Hawks Bay.
A gang conflict warrant has been invoked twenty six times
since Thursday, which has led to eight to rest. It's
the mongrav via the Black Power, three shootings and forty
eight hours if you can believe at the police. Minister
Mark Mitchell with us very good morning.

Speaker 12 (30:43):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So the response so far in its effect on these
gang conflict warrants do they work?

Speaker 9 (30:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (30:49):
Absolutely, And look you know the police both in Tyrafiti
and in the Eastern Police, they're outstanding at getting on
top of the gangs. Obviously there's been a bit of
conflict to wire and they've responded quickly and getting on
top of it.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Does it build or is it just explode?

Speaker 12 (31:07):
Sometimes it can build. It can be just one incident
that sort of starts to build tension between the gangs.
The reality of it is, you know, us as as
a government have said that we're not going to tolerate
that anymore. So the expectation is there's police, there's quick
and decisive police action, and that's exactly what's happened here.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Are you disappointed that you've still got to use these warrants,
that these people are still going out and shooting each
other and they haven't got the message or are they
just beyond the No.

Speaker 12 (31:31):
I hate it. I mean me personally, I hate it.
When I was my own police and career, when I
was in Gismond as a dog can and I was
often sent down to war or to help deal with
this stuff, and it's tough, very tough on the community.
We've obviously got a zero tolerance from it as government,
and we're working on starting suppressing and get rid of
it in our country, but it just takes time.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Have you got the resource on the coast, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
They have got the resource. I was thinking about that
actually in the last couple of days and just talking.
I hate talking about when I was on the job,
but I do remember going down there. There was myself
in the scene sergeant to deal with again a situation
where they connect to young girls and we're raping them.
There's two of us to deal with it with about
thirty game members. So with our police are in a

(32:12):
much better position now. They do have the numbers, they
have the powers, they're asserting themselves outstanding leadership. Like I
said down there, they're doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Good this investigation that you'll be aware of this morning.
The police have launched into this. Allegedly you're letting people
through without the fitness test. Is this true?

Speaker 12 (32:28):
Look that is in terms of has there been any
pressure from the government, there's been a very clear target
set by the government and the funding and the support provided.
There is definitely no interference around standards that is operational effect,
quite the opposite. Both myself and Casey Costello, who both
were police officers, ourselves are very adamant about their attention
of standards and I find it a bit rich hearing

(32:51):
the Labor Party come out when in twenty seventeen they
dropped the swimming standard. They dropped standards around low level
offenses drink driving and drugs offense. Is that that meant
that seventeen percent of applicants went through instead of nine
percent we have. We haven't dropped any standards at all.
We've been adamant about the fact that we.

Speaker 11 (33:09):
Don't want to do that.

Speaker 12 (33:11):
We you know, we've got a we've got a world
class police service. It's important that we retain that. But
you know, obviously there was three that went through that
hadn't reached the fitness standard. The police are looking at
that and that's the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
If there's more than three. Have we got a scandal, No,
not at all.

Speaker 12 (33:26):
I just think that I mean, like I said under labor,
which by the way, I at the time said, look,
they shouldn't be doing that. They dropped the swimming standard,
and they said the reason why they dropped it is
because they trained them at college. They'd get them up
to speed at college. So you know, there's there's precedent
for that. We don't want to do that. We've been
very clear that we don't want to drop standards. Every

(33:46):
conversation that I've had with the executive, I've been very
clear about that. I know, like I said to you,
when I joined myself, I didn't know I had to
learn how to type, which meant that helped me find someone.
I went out and I learned how to type so I.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Could join the I having seen all of that, if
they have been let through, who would have let them through?
How does this happen?

Speaker 12 (34:05):
I don't know that that will be on a ground level,
so they'll go back and they'll have a look at that.
But the one thing I did want to say, Mike
is that there's lots of people, there's police officers all
around the country that are trying to recruit out of
their own communities and they'll identifying young people as they
come through school and they're giving them additional help to
make sure that they do reach those standards. They're doing

(34:25):
outstanding work. So you've got three cases here. The police
have said they'll go back and have a look at it.
But you know from my experience getting around the country,
they're doing a really good job and identifying good appligence
in a strong pipeline of people coming into the police.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
Appreciate time. So your Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Police Minister, eleven
past seven to get to the next step in selecting
the new pope. We have no official datas yet, but
tradition dictates the conclavors no earlier than sixteen days after
the pope's passing, no later than twenty one. That takes
us to really may, of course, that it can Correspondent
Edward Penton back with us. Edward, morning to you, Good morning.
I'll tell you what. Saturday was quite the picture, wasn't it.

Speaker 16 (35:01):
Yes, it was certainly quite a spectacle. Yes, yes, always
papal funerals are like that, and this was no exception.

Speaker 13 (35:08):
Yet.

Speaker 16 (35:08):
We had a huge, huge numbers of people I think
two hundred and fifty thousand came to pay their respects.

Speaker 13 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
How much political chet is going on now? How many
deals behind doors? What's going on and how does it work?

Speaker 16 (35:22):
Well, we don't know for sure, because a lot of
it is done, you know, behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
But we know that well.

Speaker 16 (35:29):
For example, President Emmanuel Macront had lunch on Saturday after
the funeral with four French cardinals. Quite possibly there was
some sort of discussions there about who would be the
next pope. And I know that President Macron would very
much like Jean Marc Avelene cardinal Avelene who's a French cardinals.

(35:51):
So yes, there's certainly some of that going on. But
we'll know certainly more this week when the General Congregations
get fully underway, because that's when the the cardinals get
to meet and discuss the challenges facing the church, and
then it'll become quite clear which cardinal is up to
facing those challenges.

Speaker 11 (36:12):
So we'll know much more this weekend.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
When we last talked, there was no clear favorite. If
there's no clear favorite, does that mean we're waiting a
longer period of time or we can't say that either.

Speaker 16 (36:21):
Yes, well it's likely that will take longer. Yes, because
there are more cardinals. There one hundred and thirty four
cardinal electors, which is the highest for I think it's
been records on records, so it's you know, there's a
lot of cardinals to be heard in these general congregations,
and then they're all from very disparate parts of the world,
so that also adds a level of complexity to it,

(36:45):
and so it could be quite protracted. It could go
on for quite a bit, a bit longer than people expect.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Does geography play any role at all, Like, you know,
the United nations. It's sort of Europe's term, it's sort
of South America's turn or not. Yes.

Speaker 16 (36:58):
Yes, it's a good question because often, well up until Benedict,
there was it was considered to be very Eurocentric and
there was a push to move away from that, which
is why they chose Cardinal Bergoglio from Latin America, the
first pope from the Lattin from Latin America. So yes,
And whether there's be a push to bring it back

(37:19):
to Europe Le's Some say there would be particularly back
to the Italians because they a lot of cardinals want
a greater sense of calm in the in the Sacred
College and in the Vatican. So yes, that could be
quite It could be very significant. Also in this it
will be very significant the geographical location.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yes, and we follow with interest. It would appreciate your time.
Once again, it would paint in Vatican. Correspond to fourteen
past seven asking Mike, I disagree a little regarding the
BNPL the buy now, pay later. I personally hate the
product and not use it, but in essence you're paying
it for over six installments zero interest. It keeps the
money in your pocket a little bit longer. Borrowing money
for food or alcohol is a shocker and rock bottom.

(37:57):
Now I take a number of you see that it's
interest free. But at the end of the day, you
either got the money or you haven't. If you haven't,
then you you know, and you're paying more for the product.
Of course, because somebody's clipping the ticket. It's not you're
getting the best bargain when you got the cash. Cash
is king, of course. Fifteen past seven The.

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Speaker 2 (38:18):
It'd be Crystal Luxton in about fifteen minutes seventeen past seven.
Great scenes yesterday if you're watching, Go Media Stadium. Auckland
FC ran onto the field knowing they'd already won the
Premier's Plate in the debut season. The players for finishing
top of the round robin. The playoffs are still to come.
The Auckland f C CEO as Nick Beckery's back. Well,
this Nick, very good morning.

Speaker 9 (38:34):
To you morning Mike. Are you doing very well?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Indeed? Do you celebrate yesterday? I mean it was a
bit of a party or is this just part of
the overall equation?

Speaker 9 (38:42):
No, I certainly did it. I'm Philly bit Dusty this morning.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
To be honest, good on you. How Dusty begs pretty
dusty On.

Speaker 9 (38:51):
A one to ten dust I'd say about an eight.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Although jeez, well, thank you for turning up at this
particular time on the program live and you've got to
win one mill as well. So what happens next in
terms of will the season be a disappointment if you
win this but don't win overall or not?

Speaker 9 (39:06):
Well, it feels like we're one done, one to go right,
So we go into the finals. We're gonna We're gonna buy.
We play away in Melbourne next week and then we
have a bye week in the finals. Our first semi
final will be away on the seventeenth of May somewhere
in Australia, either have Melbourne or Sydney I suspect, and
then we have a home semi final the twenty fourth,

(39:27):
and if we make it through the Big Dance, it'll
be at Go Media the following Saturday.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I was going to say, is that the prize for
winning the plate so far? Because you're away. For a
person who's done well, you should be at home every week,
shouldn't you?

Speaker 9 (39:40):
Exactly? Yeah, I mean the home and away semi finals.
Quite it is a very football thing, so so you
just have to accept it. The big benefit is if
you if you win the semi final, you've got the
you've got the home grand final, which is that's a
massive opportunity. It's a massive thing from your Hilm football.
It'll be a massive thing for Auckland SC fans as well.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So I had a good look at the game yesterday
and I know I've been critical about all the drawers
and football and stuff, but I looked at that game yesterday.
You were peppering the goal. You were clearly a vast
and superior side to Perth, and yet to look at
the score at one nil you would have gone, oh
that was a bit closer than I thought. And it
really wasn't, was it.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
It was.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
It was very squeaky one time, to be honest, I
wanted to be about ten nil. It should have been
at least four or five nil. But we did dominate
and the boys, you know, they ran out there as
premiers and you sort of, you know, they kind of
had that lifted off their shoulders so they didn't have
to worry about the I think I would today or not.
They played really well it was just one of those days,

(40:35):
you know, a wet day in go media and they
should have scored through four more, but one that would do.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Yeah, you take it, good one, Well done, Nick, appreciate
it very much. We'll let him go get some oxygen
before he keeels ivery. He sounds like hit of the
got a bit of the asthma, hasn't he? Nick Becker,
who is the Auckland FC CEO. And having watched the game,
the ground held up beautifully. I'm looking forward to talking
to Jason about it. Up to eight o'clock seven twenty.

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(42:11):
It is being reported as a scrap, which I'm not
sure as accurate, but if it is, it is a
shame and probably a lesson for the combatants who are
both supposed to be on the same side. But under
the MMP, I ask you this simple question, is anyone
really on the same side? See what's happening here is
act are concerned about acc and their current desire to
solve safety issues. In the manufacturing sector. But by putting

(42:32):
a race based lens across it. Here we go again.
ACC want people who have got some answers or run
some programs for injuries to MARI and PACIFICA. This, of course,
is not what the government is supposed to be about,
and a cabinet eded says, so the shame of this
is both sides. In fact, all three sides I thought
were on the same page on the same issue. They

(42:52):
campaigned on the issue. They campaigned on it because the
last government got so obsessed with MARI issues and language
and acquiescing to everything cultural a large sway of it
has got thoroughly secin tired of it all. So why
are we here after a year and a half, and
while we're here in a cabinet instruction, why are we here?
It's beyond me the fact ACC or any government department
is still trying this on. I would have thought it's
the real problem and goes to a theme that we've

(43:13):
highlighted too often this term and on this program, and
that is a public service who don't appear to be
neutral or operating under the instruction of the government of
the day, but rather to their own beat. There is
no good news in two parties seemingly debating a formally
agreed approach with each other. And there is no good
news in a department continuing to do something they shouldn't
be doing. We have enough to deal with at the moment,
don't you think without previously agreed approaches being relitigated or disavowed. Obviously,

(43:37):
work safety is not a race based problem. It's an
industry problem or a sector problem. Acc should know this,
and even if they didn't, they should be following instruction
act or on the right side of this. But they
shouldn't have to be given the point of government is
enactment of policy, not endless relitigation asking Mike, buy now,

(43:58):
pay later on the surfaces interest, but actually interest has
been built into the purchase price for everybody. That's what
I'm trying to say. There's no good deals. I mean,
just because you think it's interest free, it isn't interest
free because somebody is clipping the ticket. A third party
will almost always be clipping the ticket. Mike, have you
seen the five parts series braun GP It's on Disney
plus Fuily enough I have. That's not new, it's old,
which is one of the weird things we talk about

(44:19):
these days with streaming, something can be old and you
think it's new. The braun Gp Things a very very
good program, a very very good story. Kenno Reeves, who's
a motor racing geek, hosts in fronts it, and he's
not particularly good talent. I'm glad you can act because
he's certainly no host. But it's a wonderful, wonderful story.
Tell you what I started to watch but then I

(44:39):
got put off, so I can probably alert you to
this now. Also on Disney was the Freddy Flintoff thing,
which has been made much of globally and flint Off
of late was the third player in the top Gear
show horrific accident, and nobody knows what happened to him,
how bad it was. He went underground, he's disappeared for
the last year. He's spoken now for the first time.

(45:02):
Hence the hype around this program. What I suspected was
going to happen did happen, and that is it's actually
a story of Freddie Flintoff. The accident is but a
by product of the program itself. So if you're looking
for accident, accident, all accident and nothing but accident, you're
going to be disappointed. There's a lot of friend also,
should you just need to have a good hard look
at yourself offense what you're looking for? Well, well no,

(45:24):
because it's one of the biggest stories in the entire
world and what happened to him and how it happened
is the interesting part. But they don't focus on that enough.
So be prepared. Yes, you get the detail, but there's
a lot more to the program, but that's on Disney
Plus at the moment. Now, the Prime Minister is winging
his way back to the country. We find him in
an airport lounge in a couple of moments after the

(45:44):
news which is next here, News Talk s head be.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News Talks
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Speaker 2 (45:59):
Three minutes away from mate. What has been quite the
week of the ploman is Thy started out on a
trade come business trip to Britain that involved meetings with
King at farm or a visit to our troops training
the Ukrainians. Of course, an ANZAC service at Gallipoli and
ended with a trip to Rome and a papal farewell.
Christopher Luxen is with us. Very good morning, Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
Good to be with you.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Well, normally, of course we were going to start with
Anzac Day first, but events overtook it all in the week.
It looked in Rome quite the scene.

Speaker 17 (46:23):
Yeah, it was pretty special to represent New Zealanders there
and pretty powerful guy and to see all those little
leaders show up to recognize him and appreciate him with
quite something.

Speaker 11 (46:33):
Did it feel like a moment, Yeah, it did. I
mean I looked out over.

Speaker 17 (46:37):
The square and new Ditchies, a sort of people just
jam packed everywhere, down the roads, down the alleyways.

Speaker 11 (46:43):
Really quite something.

Speaker 17 (46:45):
Yeah, And then applause would break out as different things
were said, and as this coffin was moved, and it
was quite moving.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
If people haven't been there, and I'm assuming where you
were sitting us up towards the Vatican itself, you're on
the top, there's a slope, the whole thing's on the slope,
and you look down and you can see way back
down the streets for miles exactly exactly.

Speaker 17 (47:05):
I was sort of literally two rows in the second
or third row from the altar and very very close
to seeing this ceremony and obviously very close to the coffin,
and then you just look out to the left and
you could just see people, just streams of people, and
I think there were reports there was something like two
hundred and fifty to four hundred thousand people there.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
What was security like and how was it handled?

Speaker 17 (47:26):
It was a lot of security, and as you expect,
it was tricky getting cars and delegations in and out
of the cathedral, and then it was very difficult getting
back out again. Everyone was there waiting for their cars
and delegations to come out the other side. But it's
a big movement, trying to deal with all those world
leaders that were there, and.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Who did you run into and who did you talk to?
And any business was done or was that not really allowed?

Speaker 17 (47:53):
No, it was really I ran into probably fifteen or
so leaders and had good conversations with them. But it
wasn't place where we did formal bilaterals or anything like that.
But you know, I had a good catch up with
the President of the European Union, Philippines President as well,
Sir Keir Starmer, obviously the Dutch Prime Minister. I ran

(48:15):
into President Biden, who was there.

Speaker 11 (48:19):
Yeah, so it's just there's just a few people to
talk to and have touch base with. And what do
you make of it?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You were listening the photo, of course of Trump and
Zelensky huddled together. Does that Does that bring us all hope?

Speaker 9 (48:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (48:30):
I mean it's an incredibly challenging situation, as you well know,
but it was quite powerful and evocative imagery. I thought,
seeing those two together sitting on the chairs having a
conversation at the cathedral at a funeral of the guy
that was was talking about will peace And.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Isn't it ironic? I suppose you go back to Anzac
Day and what we commemorated Anzac Day, and you look
back at the world and wars and at that moment
and the trouble we're all in these days. Maybe if
we spent more time thinking about Anzac Days, the world
wouldn't be where it is at the moment.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (49:00):
That was another highlight of the week.

Speaker 17 (49:02):
Mike was doing the dawn service, but I had exactly
the same reflection, was that, you know, one hundred and
ten years ago, we were on a peninsula and the
data nails at Kallipoli with the Australians and with the
Brits and then one hundred and ten years later, we're
with the Brits in the south of England training Ukrainian soldiers,
fifty four thousand of them to go back into a
warfare in a matter of days after being trained by

(49:24):
New Zealand troops and British troops, yet again entrenches, albeit
with drones.

Speaker 11 (49:29):
And so it was, yeah, it was a big thought
that process. We haven't come that far, have we?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
In some ways she's speaking of drones. The thing that
took my attention with this trip to Britain and Starmer
and your visit to the troops who were training for
the people in Ukraine, this business and tech stuff that
we do. So there's a small company in Mount Monganui
and the next thing you know, they're doing multi million
dollar deals with the UK. I mean, that's a story
worth telling, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (49:54):
Absolutely.

Speaker 17 (49:54):
I Mean the highlight of the UK trip for me
was that we've got all this historical stuff that ties
us to Brits, but we're obviously a long away from
each other, but we've actually got new things now in
the relationship that we can continue to build and propel
this relationship on. And so one is really around defense
and security awesome Krewe company SIOS that's actually did a
thirty million pound deal with the Ministry of Defense in

(50:16):
the UK unmanned uncrewed equipment and what we want to
do in our defense capability plan some aspects as well.
But then also the free trade agreement Mike has been fantastic.
In the last twelve months. We've had twenty one percent
growth in New Zealand exports to the UK. I did
a day with investors in tech and also with infrastructure investors,

(50:36):
and we've got a lot of British investors putting it
renewable energy and projects into New Zealand as well. So
it's good to have not just the historical stuff of
a sheared outlook. She had value, she had histories, but
also now have real drive and ambition about what we
can do more together going forward.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
And if you talk to a British audience, generally they
know about sheep, they know about shipping on blanc of course,
do they know about tech automatically That's.

Speaker 17 (51:02):
What I spent a lot of time doing in the Gala,
don't We had two hundred and fifty people there just
telling them exactly you know us for exactly those things
and Marks and Spencers and Waitros. But do you know
that we are top five country on renewables, We're the
fourth biggest launcher of rockets. Who've got amazing tech companies
there that are already operating well in the UK as well,

(51:22):
So you know that message is getting through that we've
got traditional sectors, but we are also modern country with
lots of the emerging tech as well, which is very
interesting to them.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
So back in Ryme, you mentioned the president of the EU.
You know when you talk about the EU, and I
guess you're up with this. Rachel Reeves mentioned over the
weekend that Britain needs to trade more with the EU.
They need to worry more about the EU than they
do about the United States. Does that broad theory dubtail
with where we're at or not?

Speaker 17 (51:48):
I think for us it's an and and and not
an OAR. And you know, we want a positive, constructive
relationship with the Americans. We've got good connections to that administration.
Our exporters are actually still feeling very positive about the market.
Posts the tariffs. We're not imposing retaliatory tariffs because it
will just hurt Newsealanders and we'll continue to make the
case for New Zealand. But then it's an end. And

(52:09):
that's what we've been doing the last sixteen months is
getting to the UAE, getting to the GCC, kicking off
in going to the UK, powering up the FTA, bringing
the EUFTA into force the season.

Speaker 11 (52:20):
Earlier than when planned.

Speaker 17 (52:22):
All that stuff that I've been doing, Comprehensive streach at
putch of vietnam Ic owned countries, Singapore, all that stuff
is really important.

Speaker 11 (52:30):
We've got to sell more and more things to the world.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
A couple of domestic things. China got very upset at
New Zealand MPs who visited Taiwan. Should they be and
is there a problem there?

Speaker 11 (52:38):
Will not.

Speaker 17 (52:39):
No, we've got a long standing commitment to our One
China policy, which we hold to. But we've had always
a long tradition of backbench MPs going off to Taiwan.
It's the legislator, not the executive that goes.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Now the family boost where what was it three four
or five families whatever? I mean, how did you cock
that up?

Speaker 9 (52:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (52:59):
I mean there was a real challenges around there, obviously,
the assumptions and around as to what was who was
going to get what and what was who was entitled
to what? Good to see Nicholas come out and said, look,
we want to make sure that you'll look at the
system and make sure it works. But we did get
you know, forty two million dollars out to fifty five
thousand people or families, which was actually really important. We

(53:19):
were trying to put it out as quickly as possible
rather than make an IT system that would then take
year a year and a half to do. But yes,
clearly some assumptions from my ID based off some incomplete
information led to LEDs some challenges there. But you know,
Nicolay wants to make sure that we get that money
out into those families.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
And does that then sit with the ID because they
didn't have the numbers, or does it sit with you
because you got very bullish on it, sprooking it and
selling it when you really didn't have the details to
do that.

Speaker 17 (53:45):
Now, I think we get off the assumptions that we
had in the models that we had built and from
assumptions that we had. But clearly, you know, some of
these assumptions are offering complete information or wrong information. But
the key thing is the intention was to get money
out the door. Quickly to families that actually are dealing
with the costs of living crisis and high early child
education costs, and we want to do that as fast

(54:07):
as possible.

Speaker 11 (54:08):
So we did it through the rebate sort.

Speaker 17 (54:09):
Of model, but obviously there's more that we can do there,
and Nicholas going to keep looking at it and see
what else we can do.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
So the idea is the money will eventually go out
to people you intended it to go to. It'll just
be slightly different by way of mechanism.

Speaker 9 (54:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (54:22):
Absolutely, I mean we want that money going to those
working families that actually have got very high childcare costs.
We want to do everything we can to support them.
The system has worked as well as it can to
get the cash out to them. Obviously some of the
assumptions were wrong as to how much people would receive
and when how they.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Do that, But we can fix that up, all right,
and then acc an Act and MARI Procurement.

Speaker 11 (54:45):
Are you up on this or no?

Speaker 17 (54:47):
I sorry, I haven't been briefed a little bit on
the ACCIE and I know Scott Simpson's asked the team
to look at that again.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
So on the surface act to claiming that acc is
still trying to procure services based on race, and there's
this cap a piece of paper that says you can't
do that.

Speaker 17 (55:03):
So I act, right, well, we've got a circular that's
about making sure services public services delivered.

Speaker 11 (55:08):
On the basis of need.

Speaker 17 (55:11):
ACC have obviously got a procurement exercise up and running.
The Minister Scott Simpson, as I understand, it was quite
comfortable in the first instance, but obviously it's an operational
decision for them. But he's and now asked them to
go back and reassure themselves and him. But that's been
handled well.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
So I'm up the week in totality, oh very I
do know how to sell them up.

Speaker 17 (55:32):
Big week, really excited about the UK relationship moving forward
and having new things to feed it. Blowing away by
Gallipoli and being there on the dawn service. Highlight for
me was talking to Kiwis, who had made the trip
basically as pilgrimage were a.

Speaker 11 (55:48):
Tired folk on a tour.

Speaker 17 (55:50):
There was school groups there from all over New Zealand
that had come to show their respects to the Gallipoli
and ANZAC troops, and then obviously the Pope's all just
very special to beat there representing the country and just
seeing all those people and what he meant to them.
And I think a leader who had massive determination for
the church and for his cause, but also had massive

(56:11):
amounts of personal humility.

Speaker 11 (56:12):
And that's always a sign of a good leader to me.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
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Speaker 1 (56:17):
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Speaker 2 (56:25):
It'd be Mike, have you had any further update from
Sky on the possibility of the snooker coverage?

Speaker 9 (56:30):
No, now I have not.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
They dip their head or dip their tone to the water,
pop their head above the pulpit, and they said, Mike,
we're working on a deal for the quarterfinals. On mind,
you were not at the quarterfinals yet, so I hold
out hope. But I have been watching a lot of
snooker over the weekend and a man with some geniuses
at the table, Luca Brossell's a named to watch. He
won a couple of years ago. He has done nothing
this season, but I watched him over the weekend. He's
he's just a He's a magician and as for Ronnie.

(56:55):
Ronnie is back in a big way. Mike acc is
wasting money on race based advertising, emailed Minister Simpson about
this and no response, Sam, I know what you're referring to.
I happened to see the add over the weekend. That's
part of their program, which I think is separate to
going out and procuring services based on race. I mean,

(57:15):
and in many respects it's an academic argument because you might,
for example, go forestry is a problem. There's a lot
of injuries and forestry. Are there a lot of Mari
people working in forestry? Yes they are, so the two
sort of dovetail together. But the point that actually trying
to make, and I think they're right, is there is
an agreement from the government, rightly or wrongly, forget the politics.
It is what it is. It's a policy statement that

(57:36):
says you can't go use race for the procure them
a service. You can't do it. The government's instructed, So
why then are these people doing it? Then we come
to the Australian race, which is coming into a conclusion
final debate last night, neither leader, one review, neither leader
tried to take a deep breath, show the pace or
slow the pace and give a thoughtful answer that departed
from their daily lines. Dutton was provocative on the Welcome

(57:58):
to Country. He had to go at that and see
it's dividing the country, which is probably true. Albaneze played
it safe in his response. Debate was uneven, full of
carping and might not influence many voters. Albanese knew the
price of beggs better than Dutton, but it's hard to
see that changing the election. It was entitled the Final
Showdowns was on Channel seven. The debates thus far had

(58:20):
been so lackluster that a new gimmick was required to
heighten the drama. So a strict sixty second time limit
was placed on their answers, putting a soundtrack of Stagy
music to their answers. As their time ticked out, the
music swelled to a crescendo. So that was Channel seven
last night. More from Steve after eight thirty eight to.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
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Speaker 2 (58:45):
Mike, any idea on the government is paying for the
ev charges to be installed? Did they pay for the
petrol stations? I would have thought that the electricity companies
were responsible for the infrastructure. Well, they're not necessarily responsible.
They could be responsible that they saw a market in it.
But it's all part of Paris, it's all part of
the climate thing. You one hundred percent right. The government
doesn't need to be involved. It's part of the ongoing encouragement.
It's just how much encouragement you make or use or have.

(59:09):
Under the previous government, of course, they literally gave away
our money so people would go and buy cars. This
government decided that wasn't particularly good use of money we
don't even have, which is true. So now it's a loan.
It's an interest free loan, so there is a cost
in that, so it'll be money they don't have that
they will have borrowed at an interest rate to lend
out to people. But it's a fair question. If you
want to buy an EV and you want some infrastructure,

(59:30):
and you want to charge and stuff like that, then
you know, go for it, but don't necessarily have the
rest of us pay for a stunning reversal of fortunes
in Canada's historic election. That was the headline yesterday, and
it really is. It's this time tomorrow. It's a Monday
they're voting for. I don't know why they do it
on a Monday, and I'm not sure whether it penalizes people,
whether a workday is an issue in Canada, but nevertheless,

(59:52):
they are voting tomorrow. There's been record numbers of early votes.
People like to get in early, but the polls are
tightening forty two point nine to thirty nine point three.
This is to the Liberals, this is to Karney, this
is to the incumbents. At one point they were twenty
points behind behind. It was over. It was a foregone conclusion.
It wasn't even a race. Hence the headline a stunning reversal.

(01:00:16):
Trudeau quits, Trump gets elected. Bang, the whole thing flips
on its head. So this time tomorrow we'll be talking
about the Canadian RACEO.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
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Speaker 15 (01:01:08):
That is the end of the game and is the
Crusaders who are squat six tries to two after leading
back twenty one points.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
The Nilo half time had.

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
Hard grafted well deserved winds four tries to stree the difference.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
Eric in Sight, They've been gutsy tonight bringing out the play.

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Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Jason pinners with us along with Andrews Hevil Fellers. Good
morning to you, good night, very good scenes yesterday Jason
at Go Media as they call it, the ground looked
as though it held up nicely, lot of green on
the turf. And what happened to the crowd because they
I thought it was a seller. Did people not turn
up on the rain?

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:02:02):
I think that was probably yet twenty four thousand still
pretty good turnout, but yeah, they sold it out, and
I guess people looked at the weather and thought we'll
watch it on television instead.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
But what an occasion, Mike.

Speaker 11 (01:02:12):
It was.

Speaker 15 (01:02:13):
It was tremendous. You know, the game probably a little
bit secondary. Really, they already knew they had the Premier's plate.
They played the game, they got the goal, they got
the win, which would have pleached you. I'm sure I
would have hated to have turned up this morning and
be talking about another draw with you. But they got
the win, lifted the plate, and now they can go
on to the finals with a real, real sense of confidence.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
We had Nick Becker on earlier. He was hungover, did
you hear him.

Speaker 15 (01:02:37):
I'm not surprised they would kicking, honestly. I think it
had started about the time the final whistle win.

Speaker 8 (01:02:43):
He was.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Mike, Yeah, you asked them what was the dusty level?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
It was eight out of ten? He was eight out
of ten dusty, And I thought, good on him for
at least being honest. Most blokes would have gone on,
I can handle it. I'm fine, Probably just an easy
one or two, Mike, But no, he said eight, and
he was pretty He was weez.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Too, and he's still fronted and he was wheezing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Yeah, anyway, it was all very good. I've got them,
are you okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
I'm one about a number two?

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Fair enough? And that's just a Sunday, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:03:15):
Really?

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Now, I've got very good news for both of you.
Sky I have been victorious and successful sky Sports seven
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Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Oh one, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
That's a that's a victory. Have you, Jason, have you
been watching any of the snooker over the weekend? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:03:33):
I have, I have, And I love it that the
that the old guard are still you know, yeah, absolutely,
And I think what Ronnie O'Sullivan's one frame away from
making the quarters?

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
What eight time?

Speaker 15 (01:03:45):
Or he'd be an eight time he'll.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Be a TV wins And what's interesting Barry Barry Hearn
who's the promoter, Eddie Hearn's father, and Ronnie White, who's
a legend of the game, both picking Ronnie to win.
And if you've watched Ronnie over the weekend and you've
watched Luke Brazil's the other one to watch either of
those two. They look unbelievable. They just look magic on

(01:04:06):
the table at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
So how are you watching it if it's not on
team I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
You've got allows me to beam into euro Sport with
a were the Kazakhstan commentary. But you know you get
you get the gist. Now listen, Can I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Just stick my Can I stick my five cents worth
an over Aukland? Like like I've said just about every week.
That game again, Okay, it was only one nil. They
had a lot of opportunities.

Speaker 9 (01:04:40):
But you never die.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
You're never gonna die wondering with this team.

Speaker 11 (01:04:44):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
They're very entertaining side, and players like Sakai and some
of the other imports are outstanding footballers, and and and
to have such a strong New Zealand flavor as well,
balancing out See, this is an.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Important point to make. You make a very important point, Andrew.
And for research purposes, I watched the better part of
that game yesterday, Jason, that you'll be thrilled to and
and so what I got out of that one Nill
does not tell the story. They peppered the goal. They
were a vastly superior side to Perth and Therefore, it
doesn't really tell you how that game unfolded. I suppose
they could have should have scored more, but nevertheless they

(01:05:23):
look at high quality side.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
What was the commentary like commentary commentary that was on
the Dusty on the Dusty one out of teen level.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
No, No, there was one guy who was really good.
The other one sort of carried him.

Speaker 15 (01:05:38):
Yeah, that's usually the case.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I don't want to mention names anyway, but I was
watching a halftime who's the really good looking guy Jason?

Speaker 15 (01:05:46):
Oh yes, that's Tom Doyle. Oh yeah, former All White
and Phoenix defender. And actually, funnily enough, like my wife
actually texted me during the game and said, who's that
guy on the pan?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Who's a looker? He's a looker. If you got the
looks at me, and come on say if you wouldn't understand,
but if you've got the looks, you got the looks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
When your wife tictions is, get off the TV. I'd
rather look at the other guy's right anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Do you know what my wife said to me last
night as I kissed her good night, She said, you look?
She said, you look and then she paused and went,
so haggard, what do you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Do with that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
How do you did you? Did you sleep?

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
I mean, of course not.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Sleep after that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Your moisturizing regime would put a Parisian hook Itto shame
and and and the amount of vitamins and exactly rids
vitrol plus your stick in your body and to have
your wife call you haggard? What do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Sir, what's your assessment of the Major League cricket do
you reckon? Do you think is this a go? We're
putting money into it?

Speaker 11 (01:07:26):
Is this going to work? Look?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
I think major League cricket will probably work ahead of
Major League rugby. I think primarily due to the fact
that there's a lot of expats living in the States
who love their cricket and want to watch a local
form of cricket. But I don't know if it's going
to be like one of the booming T twenty around

(01:07:50):
the world. Least they sign all the superstars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Yeah, but what I couldn't get. The other day, Jason,
we had the head of cricket on Wienik and I
asked him and he didn't answer it properly. But the
idea is, I understand it is that I'm as opening
batsman and I'm going to nap off to an IPL somewhere,
and they're going, well, look, if you go to America,
you can still stay in touch with us and play
for the black Caps. But I would need an amount
of money in America to offset anything I could get

(01:08:14):
at another IPL type tournament. Wouldn't I or else? Why
would I bother?

Speaker 15 (01:08:18):
Yeah, and there are so many options around as well
for you to do that. I think what they're trying
to do, Mike, is to get they understand that T
twenty is here to stay. They would rather their players
went to a franchise league. That happened outside of our summer,
because over the summer just gone, of course, Devan Conway came, Williamson,
just a couple said we're going to South Africa's T

(01:08:39):
twenty competition, and that took them out of out of
commission for our summer Major League cricket happens in June
and July.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
I think that's a big part of this. Its mean,
it's a smart movement, but if it's got to work
this lift, if there's bigger money.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Elsewhere, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
The Americans don't get the big TV dollars, dollars in
the money.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Does Blake Lively remind you of Megan Markel or is
that just me just watching the Wrexham thing and she
was there with her husband, and you know when the
camera goes on people, certain people sort of light up
in the oh god, there's a camera on me kind
of way. And she's got that kind of annoying quality
about her.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Do you think do you think it's a wonderful sporting
story given.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
It's a fantastic sporting story as far as the sporting story.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Made for TV, so of course.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
It's made for They've already made it for TV safe.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
So that doesn't that But they need romance, doesn't that
remove some of the romanticism that was sporting?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Well, it's they got to get to the Premier League.
If they get to the Premier League, then then then
you're talking and if they went on then to win
the Premier League, that would be I don't know what
you'd do with that. That's just the greatest thing in
the history of the world. But to be promoted the
way they have season after season is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Around it not only a football team, but it's turned
around a small Welsh town, right and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Good on them for doing it and going in and
doing it. I noticed that Tom who was the bloke
who bought the Gronkowski? Was it Gronkowski who bought one
of the British or invested in one of the British
football teams as well?

Speaker 9 (01:10:17):
Sort of?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
It became a thing after Missus Lively and her husband
went and bought him to Wrexham. Was it Gronkowski? It
was Tom Brady?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Was it Birmingham City?

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yes? Tom? Tom Brady brought in and he did a
big Instagram post about who look at me? I bought
a football team and you've never heard from him since
he's not at least at least Reynolds and Co. Turn up,
don't they.

Speaker 15 (01:10:38):
Yeah, the Wrexham stories, you know, you're right, it's made
for TV. Wrexham will never win the Premier League.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Call Jason well done. So I can see that that
that football genius coming to before there.

Speaker 9 (01:10:51):
I know it's not.

Speaker 15 (01:10:52):
Particularly bold came who needs Tom Doyle?

Speaker 19 (01:10:56):
Remember when you heard it first Wrexham al ever won
the Premier League? J Pine Wellington, Hey what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
About the Warriors? What about the Warriors? How good are
the Warriors? I tell you what. Let me say this
right here, right now. This is our year. This is
our year quality side quality, when we're virtually top of
the table. The Claimers this morning were fourth, we're not
because the Raiders are above us. With one more game play,
we're virtually second. May as well be first.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Look, there's no doubt that, no doubt about it. Might
that they played very well in christ jud sort of
slipped my mind that the game was in Creage. It's
great crowd, it had been sold out for months exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
And wait did they get the new stadium? Twenty five thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Leagues Rugby Leagu's farewell to old Eddington's Showgrounds, which has
seen a lot of broken bones and blood and sweat
and tears and rugby league games over the year. So
great way to send.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Also good good for the amp show with the candy
floss and the tractors, SA, don't forget that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah, just over the back there, tomato, think that proper
thick tomato saw something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Used to used to go and pat the little baby goats,
little sad and the school trip and pat the baby goat.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
The two dollars surprise? Was it two dollars bargain surprise
thing where you'd hit in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
And Mum wouldn't let you on the firest wheel gets.
You used to chunder and cry.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
And then pat the goats and you'd get the I'd
get the two five to two from pages road to
go and watch on the mat.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
There you go with Barry Holland. A remember Ernie Leonard
and Barry Holland on the mat. Were you nervous?

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
I used to prance around in my bedroom and my underpants,
singing I was King Curtis Mite, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I was Big Mulumba. Actually I was Mark Lewin. I
used the sleeperhole. It was fantastic, did you I went
along there one night to the actual on the mat,
and I was nervous that it was I knew it
wasn't real, but I was nervous that it could be
real and I could get injured.

Speaker 15 (01:12:55):
Were you in it?

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Were you in it for just in the crab? And
then you obviously took up wrestling and the representative team.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I was in the Canterbury Under eighteen wrestling side. Not
many people know that, you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Is that where you get your haggard looks from.

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positive one hundred is what we need to see one
hundred plus. So we rose five, which is significant in
April to ninety eight point three. Inflation expectations are up
half a point to four point seven. That's the conversation
for the year. I reckon. It's your councils, it's your
realign charges, it's all that sneaky little stuff that they go.
It's at the moment, so we're going to have to

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pop the bells up.

Speaker 9 (01:14:44):
It's that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So our expectations are climbing, which is a major problem.
More people continue to feel it was a bad time
to buy a major household item. I don't know why
it's always a good time to buy a major household item.
I love household items. Maybe it's just my fascination with them.
Net twenty three percent expected to be better off this
time next. Yeah, that's an improvement of seven points. So
we're starting. It's fragile, it's on the edge, but we're

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starting increasingly. More and more of us are starting to
feel like there might be better days. A hit. I
need to just tap into Steve Price's expertise. It looks
like Dan Andrews has been banned from another golf club,
so and I think it's a golf club near Steve's place.
It might be that Steve Gottam banned. Anyway, Steve Price.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Head be Now there's a debate, and we had the
now who do we have on? Was that the Airways Corporation?
I can't remember a couple of weeks ago, So there's
ongoing debate. And I talked about inflation before the news
and this is where it's all coming from. So airways
New Zealand is proposing a s point seven annual increase
in fees and they're going, well, you know, hold on,
wait a minute, and they're opening up to submissions. Airports
have come along. You can imagine what the airports are saying.

(01:15:57):
Then the airlines came along. You can imagine what the
airlines are saying that the airlines groups came along, whether
people represent all the airlines, not just one airlone like
in New Zealand, and you can imagine what they're saying.
So they've all said exactly what you said that'd saying.
As a result of them saying exactly what you said
that'd say, they say, oh, well, what're going to do
is extend the time for consultation, which is ultimately going
to lead to exactly the same place, which is going

(01:16:18):
to be more feats. Now, ask yourself what the current
inflation rate is in this country, and ask yourself whether
it's anywhere close to seven point seven percent, and it isn't.
And it's that sort of thing that continues to drive
expectation around inflation. And until we get that nipped in
the bud, we're going nowhere fast twenty ten minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
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to you, good idea, good to be video? Is it
over or is it? You can't say that yet.

Speaker 13 (01:16:51):
Well if I say it, it won't work out that way,
so I'll be a little cautious. But it would appear
to be. Everybody you speak to thinks that the election,
which is in five days time on Saturday, is probably
done and dusted. The Poles are saying that the mood
seems to be saying that the only person I think
he still has the confidence that he can possibly win

(01:17:13):
is Peter Dutton, and that's what he has to do.
He has to show for the next five days of
campaigning that he still believes that Anthony Ivenezy needs to
be the first first term government thrown out since nineteen
thirties in Australia and not be given another three years.
The polls suggest otherwise. News poll out this morning says
that nothing's changed in a week pretty much now. The

(01:17:34):
problem for the coalition with that is that every pre
polling booth that I go past, and I go past,
the number of them are crowded with people. That means
they've made up their mind. I mean the one down
the road for me. I haven't been out to vote yet,
although I wanted to, because the car parks full and
there's too many people queued up to do it, and
I don't want to get in a queue. So if
that's the case, Mike Peter Dutton's left is run too late.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
I would suggest, okay, so how much weight do you
place on the I won't be around Saturday. I can't
be bothered Saturday. I've got a bigger thing to do
on Saturday. I might as well take the first couple
of weeks that get Is there any abt in it?

Speaker 12 (01:18:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
I think so.

Speaker 13 (01:18:11):
That's probably the reason. I mean, a lot of the
people that I observed at the poll where near where
I live, where elderly people who just don't want to
wait around for twenty minutes half an hour in a
Q on Saturday. You do miss out on the sausage sandwich, though,
which is a great pity because the only good thing
about voting sometimes is that you get a nice sausage

(01:18:32):
sandwich and a bit of white bread. With some sauce,
mustard onions and all of the above. So look, I
think Peter Dutton. Last night there was a debate on
and you know, if you want a small example of
how disinterested general Australians are in the election, the debate
was on the seven network last night. Due to start

(01:18:53):
at eight o'clock, it started at twelve minutes past eight
because Channel seven decided it'd be better to run to
minutes of the one percent club. I don't know if
you know what the one percent.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
It's a game show. As a game show, yeah correct, yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
Correct, And so I didn't start on time. It started
at twelve minutes fast at that gives you some small
indication of the level of interest in the election.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
So I'm also reading in what they did is I
think one of the others must have been Channel nine
did the sixty second thing because the ABC was so boring,
so they limited the answer to sixty second. The suggestion
is last night, not only did they limited the answer
to sixty seconds, they played music under the answers that
crescendoed as the sixty seconds came up? Is that true?
And did it sound as horrific as it sounds?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Me?

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Telling it to you.

Speaker 13 (01:19:38):
Yeah, it was last night. It was on the seven
that were in the speaking of game shows, That's what
it was like. I mean, there's a bit like deal
or no deal at times, and poor ol Peter Dutton
was asked what is the cost of a dozen eggs?
And I think his reply was something like four dollars
seventy or something like that when the real cost is
about double that. And the PM got close that were

(01:20:01):
telling people what it does and eggs cost. And so
the interpretation that this morning is that Anthony Alberaniese is
more in touch with people. I mean, give me a break.
Both of them were getting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
What's the awesomation of this? Because I mean, I thought,
those we don't do those questions here anymore because the
world has changed and the price of milk varies greatly
depending on what sort of milk you're buying, and the
same with eggs, and the same with rice and all
that other crap. This isn't nineteen seventy two when there's
a singular bag of beans to buy. Why do you
still ask those questions? And does it tell you anything

(01:20:31):
about the people concerned?

Speaker 13 (01:20:33):
No, it doesn't. It's got your questions, and why you
would want to ask that is simply to get the
headline that they got this morning that somehow Anthony Alberaneese
is more in touch with common people than Peter Dutton.
I mean neither of them. I wouldn't have thought so
at least the last six weeks would have been into
any sort of supermarket to buy anything, let alone buy
a dozen eggs, because they would have been followed by

(01:20:55):
you know, three hundred reporters and forty two camera crews.
So it tells you nothing at all about what what's
going on. Look, you and I both have been around
send a lot of elections. You often then just go,
what are the book He's saying, where's the money going
with the bookmakers? Well, the bookmakers have got the Labor
Party at about a dollar twenty in the Coalition at

(01:21:15):
five dollars. So anybody who's having a genuine bet with
their own money says that Peter Dutton and the Coalition
have no chance at all. On the weekend, we may
be proved wrong, but maybe not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Okay, this rally, the pro trends rally, has there been
a lot of coverage Unior Country out of the Scottish
or English decision a week or so back about you
know what is a woman?

Speaker 13 (01:21:37):
Yes there has been though, I mean this is a
repeat you might remember of the rally about a year
ago where there was a pro women's rally where women
let women speak, it's cooled. And this is where people
who are concerned about trans people playing in female sport
and using female change rooms at sporting facilities. They don't

(01:21:59):
like that, they protest against it. So then this radical
pro trans crowd turned out. This happened on Saturday in
the streets of Melbourne. It got really ugly and for
some strange reason, once the two rallies split up, the
pro trans people decided to march through the middle of
Melbourne and the police all disappeared. I mean, I'm not
quite sure why they then didn't monitor this rally, but

(01:22:20):
it ended up. I mean, you had a woman who
jumped off a tram which has been blocked by these protests.
So she started screaming at these pro trans people to
get out of the way and threw a punch at
one of them, and it got extremely ugly and the
Victoria police had no answer as to why they weren't there.
There was two people arrested, thirty eight people searched for weapons.

(01:22:41):
I just don't get this. I don't get why there
is this really vicious physical dislike between these two groups
of people that I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
What can you tell me of the Moona Links golf course.

Speaker 13 (01:22:57):
It's about twenty about fifteen minutes from where I am
speaking to you this morning, to eighteen hole golf courses there.
It's available for people members of the public if you
want to pay around about one hundred and twenty dollars
a round of eighteen holes, and you've got to add
your card on top of that. And one Daniel Andrews Now.
I got tipped off about this a week ago, and

(01:23:19):
so that's why it ended up in the media. A
friend of his, a property developer called Max Beck, had
a corporate membership at the Moona Linx golf Club in
his name and his wife's name. Now Max Beck, the
property developer, I decided it would be a smart idea
to drop his wife's name from that membership and add
Daniel Andrews. And all hell broke lous not just at

(01:23:41):
the golf club, but at mister Beck's house when his
wife found out because he hadn't told her. She demanded
to be put back on the list and didn't speak
to him for a week, and the members at Moona
Links Golf Club decided that they would flood the social
media page Dog Club and demand that mister Andrewsby denied

(01:24:02):
being able to be a member there. And that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Good on you, okay, make We'll see you Wednesday. Get
your final prediction for the election. Steve Price out of
Australia Mondays and Wednesdays On the Mic Hosking Breakfast. We're
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Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Be, Mike Applied, Mona Linx, Great course, Huge Bunkers, make
you cares. The other thing that was exercising was a
funny thing Australia. You know that question about the eggs
and stuff, But I mean that's so old world. I
mean that the world of eggs and the world of milk,
and the world of right and the world of you know,
general supermarket goods has changed so dramatically since we used
to ask those sort of questions you can't possibly answer
because there's a million different answers. That's sort of silly.

(01:24:41):
The other thing was they did a big sort of
doop dive and to how many MPs have got shareholdings.
And I would have thought that was irrelevant as well,
because at the end of the day, most people own
shares these days, with things like shares, these superannuation schemes,
you know, in one way, shape or another, we're all
to a degree lesser or greater involved in shares, the
share market, buying, investing, saving for our retirement. But sixty

(01:25:03):
percent of the Federal Coalition of their families have shares,
just under half of Labor and Peace have shares. Eleven
percent of parliamentarians have shares in ten or more companies.
I mean, does that matter? Who cares? What I didn't realize,
which is interesting, is lower house MPs must declare their
financial interests of themselves and their partner. I don't think
they've got to do that here. They've got to declare
their financial interests they I don't know, they have to

(01:25:25):
declare their partner necessarily, perhaps by inference, but senators only
need to declare their own interests. So you can, presumably,
if you were nefarious, get away with a lot. But
how many shares you hold or don't hold. There's the
same as you know, how much does a thing of
eggs cost? As far as I can work out, it

(01:25:47):
makes no difference. The other thing quickly I noted over
the weekend as regards Dan Andrews, and you see why
just Cinda doing left the country country because I mean,
imagine being Dan Andrews, as much as you may dislike
what he did to Victoria, being treated the way he
does from any number of pubs. He can't wander around
rural Victoria without being abused. He can't join a golf
club because no one wants him there. So I mean
you sort of you're a pariah in the state. You

(01:26:11):
once run ran. Then you've got the problem with this
guy Muelman, who was run over by Dan Andrews and
his wife a number of years ago, fifteen years ago,
and they've been sort of the things bubbled away and
the last we heard was an investigation was done on
behalf of mister Mulman, and it came up with the

(01:26:31):
inference that the police investigation into it was a cover
up and that there is scandal at play. The Victoria
former Assistant Commissioner for traffic in operations. Guy called Raymond
Shuey did this review report was released last year. Featured
it on this program at the time. Found that the
andrews Ford Territory was traveling at speed on the wrong
side of the road. Claimed the police engaged in an

(01:26:53):
overt cover up to avoid implicating a political figure, resulting
in an investigation that was deeply caught unfounded and contrary
to the available evidence. It was released over the weekend
that this bloke muleman from the law firm that had
been involved to this point. Anyway, Slater and Gordon, which
is the name we know here, I think, and as

(01:27:14):
they claim in this article I read, is linked somehow
to the labor party. Anyway, there was a payment negotiating
and negotiated his eighty thousand dollars TAC compensation payout at
the time. But he's also got from them an undisclosed settlement.
So that story all these years later, remembering of course
it happened in January of twenty thirteen, all these years later,

(01:27:36):
refuses to die ate away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Told you so file. My interest continues into met his
quest VR Headset department, its Reality Labs division with its
weird headwearing glasses that keep producing, with a promise that
one day they're going to be doing amazing things and
we'll all sort of get on board with us. And
ever since they've opened that particular division, they announced over
the weekend that they're laying off more people. And they're

(01:28:05):
laying off more people because they keep losing money. In
the fourth quarter, they lost just four point ninety seven
billion for the quarter, so things really still haven't going
that well for them. Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Trending now with m Squarehouse, you're one stuff for Mother's
Day fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Yeah, London Marathon overnight and there was the pro Palestinian
protest we've told you about earlier on Sky News had
their reporter Elis. They sent Ellis along to report on
this and the protest, but she got a little bit
distracted by the records attempted to be broken by people
in costume.

Speaker 6 (01:28:40):
I'm keeping my eyes and ears very much out for
those four people trying to cross in a Scooby Doo
mystery machine outfit that s J was interviewing earlier in
the week, they're trying to set a record for the
four people crossing the line in a poor person costume.
There's also somebody on shares, somebody in a full firefighter outfit,

(01:29:03):
including a breathing uprat is that last one will be
particularly difficult because of the weather. There would be warnings
that it's about twenty one twenty two degrees here in London,
but there's no wind at all and it feels much
warmer than that. And since I've been here, I'm only
two hundred meters from the finishing line and fortunately you've
seen a couple of people collapsed, clearly finding the feat

(01:29:24):
their heat too hot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Funny that sons in London from Edinburgh earlier on sid
how was it he goes roasting? That was when it
was eighteen degrees so he's turned into a pom already.
What was also disturbing about that is that Sky News
head not only reported about the Scooby Doo outfit, but
it actually interviewed somebody about it earlier, so it was
double coverage. This is the fire out of the Scooby

(01:29:48):
Tooth Fastest Marathon dressed as a rotating puzzle cube that
was won by a female. Most underpants worn during a marathon.
Male got that one fastest marathon dribbling a field hockey
ball that was male for as marathon dressed as a
book Mail, fastest marathon on crutches, Mail fastest Marathon dressed
as a postbox Mail Fastest marathon in a ten person costume.

(01:30:10):
They were test tubes in a rack. So fun times
in lunchon I like.

Speaker 11 (01:30:13):
The two people dressed as a slinky dog.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
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