Full Show Podcast: 28 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment, opinion and Mike
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news togs Head been.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And welcome today. We are back baby. Retail sales stats
are hot. Have banks passed on that cash right cat?
And how much real competition as they're actually out there
for your business. We're going to move to estcoters into
bike lanes because the ACEC bill is rocketing and Timicating
to the Week, Richard Darnel Murray olds they're off the
bench for us as well. Posking, Welcome to Friday. Our

(00:32):
simple question, with seemingly no simple answer, why aren't more
people excellent? Nayla Love reported this week that they are
cracking the one billion dollar revenue mark. They're an old
company that's never cracked a billion dollars before, Nayla Lover
and Construction. Of course, Construction is apparently having or has
had a hell of a time of it lately. So
how is it a business and a tough sector can
be so outstandingly successful. They put it down to being

(00:55):
good at complex projects. They do those well, the reputation grows,
the word of mouth spreads, and so it goes. The
other day I discovered a coffee roaster made by a
company called Cafe Logic. Their machine is made in New Zealand. Now,
the sadness is they are one of only a handful
left that produce appliances of any sort in this country.
The thing is their machine is well classed. The bulk

(01:15):
of professionals who enter roasting competitions use that machine. So
what that means is we can produce appliances but don't
Mostly that'll be a price related thing. But like wine
or beef or sheep or kiwi fret or salmon, there
seems to be there is nothing stopping us producing in
small numbers if it's at the top end quality. In
the other words, the same way there's nothing stopping Nayla
love booming in an industry that isn't booming. The same

(01:37):
way I can name you any number of restaurants and
cafes that are doing very nicely, thank you, in a
sector that, according to the press releases, is in a
world of trouble. The same way as we heard just
this week that despite all the job market downturns and
tough times, at no time did it get any easier
to find great talent, no shortage of people, just a
shortage of excellence. There seems a pattern here, don't you think?

(01:57):
It seems a truism that no matter what you are
surrounded by, no matter what the circumstances, excellence will always
shine and do well. That if you are good, or
do we suggest excellent at what you do, there is
always a place for you, not just to participate, but
to succeed and excel. And while those around you flounder
and complain and blame me a lot, excellence is your
ticket to wherever it is that you want to go.

(02:19):
But don't tell anyone Heaven forbid. It catches on.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
What's going on, which is why we're here. First, Putin's
go on talks.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
At least we can see which American sidess and minds
in some way our position, which will discuss encourage and
after Alaska.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Must be hard dealing with him' Starmer's working his tail off,
given he's broken so many promises and text everyone dizzy.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
We've asked everybody to make a contribution to make sure
that we can properly protect our NHS, which needs to
be there for them and their timeless when they need it,
and everybody understands that. We want to make sure that
we've got schools which are fit for the future.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Macrona, France's confirmed military service is back.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
We can't go back to the time of conscription, but
we do need a mobilization.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
A mobilization not.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
The nation to defend itself, not against this or that enemy,
but to be ready and to be respected.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
In Washington, they have gone to town on the shooting. Yes,
it's a crime and a reminder of what a miss
America is, but it's also got a strong political component
to it.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
We will not stop until we interview anyone and everyone
associated with the subject, the house and every piece of
his life. There is confirmation now that the subject had
a relationship in Afghanistan with partner forces.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
The attorney for DC was also there.

Speaker 8 (03:44):
These are dedicated service members who were performing their duties
in service to our nation and they are currently in
critical condition. They have undergone surgery. We pray for their
well being.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
And the New York heads on subways getting a lot
of buzz large fee. There's a new startup that can
genetically optimize your embryos.

Speaker 9 (04:05):
There are such a thing as the best baby. Right,
Bess is an eye, but the whole, the bass is
in the eye of the parents. What is best, what
is great is using if you want this advanced science
to help reduce disease risk and if you're interested, predict
something like the height of your baby.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And finally, Danish government has set up a night watch
to monitor Donald Trump. This is a new position. You
work between five at night seven in the morning local time,
provide a report to the government on anything the US
has done overnight while they slept. Now, this position was
put together when Trump threatened to take over Greenland, because
they decided anyway, nothing worse than waking up having missed
the headline. That's news of the world in ninety. As
regards France and macarn what he's trying to do here,

(04:44):
conscription ened it twenty five years ago in France. But
this is very as Catherine told us on Tuesday, there's
a very limited limited form. Its voluntary men and women
are ten months. You paid for it gradually brought in
next summer. You'll receive, if you can be bothered, about
fifteen hundred a month to do it. So we'll see
how it goes.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
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Speaker 2 (05:13):
Things aren't going well in Venezuela, but I don't think
I'm telling you anything new there. But the twist this
morning is they issued a sort of an ultimatum this
week to a number of airlines who had stop flying
into Venezuela because of you know what. And they said,
you've got until Thursday to come back, and if you don't,
we're going to ban you. And so six of them
didn't come back, and so they've been banned. So if
you want to get to Venezuela, Iberia, Tap, Portugal, Gold, Latin,

(05:36):
Abanka and Turkish airlines are no longer flying there. Fifteen
past six from Sure and Partners Andrew tellaher Good the morning.
Good morning, Mike, I reckon. We're on the verge of
presenting quite a bit of good news this morning, aren't we.

Speaker 10 (05:51):
Hey, before we start to all those folk listening online
in the US, happy Thanksgiving? Yes, Happy Thanksgiving because it means,
of course the US markets are closed. Yes, We've got
plenty to celebrate here. I think in New Zealand today
as well, Mike, because I may be compelled to discard
my search for flickers and embrace the green shoots. Let's

(06:12):
start with retail trade spend season. So it's timely incurrent,
even though we're actually just going to talk about the
third quarter retail trade figures. So three months the end
of September release yesterday by Stats in New Zealand, and
retail activity lifted one point nine percent compared to the
June quarter twenty six billion dollars spent. We're talking volumes,
actual volumes, call retail sales at one point two percent.

(06:35):
This is quite a lot bigger jump than was expected, Mike.
The market indications seem to be expectations around zero point
five percent lifts, so clearly the outcome well in excess
of that. These figures are adjusted for inflation and seasonal effects.
It is the largest quarterly increase since December twenty twenty one.
Key categories that moved here motor vehicles and electronic and

(06:59):
electric goods up seven point two and nine point eight
percent collectively. The only note of caution I would make
care is that those categories are by their very nature
quite lumpy. I mean, you don't buy a new car
every quarter. But the lift was evident across a range
of categories. So eight of the fifteen registered higher sales volsium.
That's of the categories, fourteen of the sixteen regions lifted.

(07:19):
Nelson South and the standouts there. But Mike, if you
just take out the noise and say, well, it's just
one quarter, If you take a step back and look
at and look at this data in a chart, there
is clearly an upward moving trend there. And I don't
think it's unreasonable to assume that the tail, when we've
got now of lower interest rates, should see this momentum

(07:41):
flow into Q four and into the Christmas New Year's season.
Discretionary spending does seem to be lifting, and I know
we keep saying it might, but about sort of circle
three quarters of the retail fixed mortgages repriced in the
next twelve months. That should see the aggregate rate on
the stock of mortages come which there is more money
available for discretionary spending.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
This is good news. And if we spend, that means
business feels better, does it not?

Speaker 10 (08:06):
Yeah, that's dead right now. I hope you're all sitting
down out there because there's heady stuff coming your way.

Speaker 11 (08:12):
Here.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
This is the A and z Business Uplook headline business
confidence jumped nine points from plus fifty eight to plus
sixty seven in November. That is the highest level for
that in eleven years. Eleven years. Expected own activity, so
people's own businesses lifted eight points to plus fifty three,
also the highest level in over ten years. From my

(08:34):
point of view, the most important indicator here past own experience.
This is real rubber heading the road. This isn't expectations.
That lifted from plus five to plus twenty one. It's
the highest level we've seen since August twenty twenty one.
We saw the lift across all sectors, even manufacturing. And look,
much as there's a note of caution in the retail

(08:56):
trade numbers, the only slight hint of caution here is
that in investment intentions haven't lifted. They actually fell slightly.
And so that's people just not being quite confident enough
to say they're going to spend money on their own businesses.
Hopefully that's just a little delayed. And Mike I alluded
to this yesterday. Residential property I said, I've been around
the country. I said, the real estate agents are busy.

Speaker 11 (09:18):
Well.

Speaker 10 (09:19):
In this survey, residential construction lifted from plus thirty six
point six to plus forty six point three, So has
it got some movement there? Hopefully this is happy days
for them. Cost pressures seem to be moderate, Inflation expectations
are under control. Wellington remains the weakest region in terms
of experience and expected activity. But I'll make two final comments, Mike.

(09:41):
What makes this survey to me a little more compelling
is that that divergence that we've been talking about for
months and months and months between expected activity and expectations
and experienced activity that seems to be shifting. In other words,
the here and now is starting to look a lit
little bit better. The animal spirits have woken up. Hopefully

(10:04):
they're roaring. But we'll leave the last word to A
and Z. Here they said the green shoots are looking
well established, So take that into Black Friday on the
weekend exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I'm vibing it.

Speaker 12 (10:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What are the numbers good on you?

Speaker 11 (10:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (10:16):
So thanksgiving us Max's shot. It's all about turkey, collared greens,
pumpkin pie biscuits and all that other stuff. But so
I'll give you the closes for the previous day forty seven,
four hundred and twenty seven. That was the two thirds
percent rise the for the Dow Jones. The S and
P five hundred was six eight one two about point
sixty nine, and the Nazdak twenty two hundred and forty

(10:38):
that was a point eight two percent rise. Current numbers
they fots you one hundred ninety six eight six they
lost six points. The nick A fifty thousand, one hundred
and sixty seven, that was up one point twenty three percent,
Shanghai Composite three eight seven five uper point two nine percent,
the A six two hundred, the Aussies eight six one
seven plus zero point one two percent on four. Fortunately

(11:01):
we fell yesterday. We were down one hundred and thirty
points on the insects fifty point nine six percent thirteen thousand,
four hundred and thirty two. Kiwi dollar is stronger. We're
getting a lift in the q dollar following the RBNZ announcement.
The Keywi against the US is now point five seven
to two fifth point eight seven sixty three against the
ossie point four nine three six Euro point four to

(11:23):
three to two two pounds eighty nine point four six.
Japanese yen gold is trading it four thousand, one hundred
and fifty five US dollars, brank Fruit sixty three dollars
and twenty five cent.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, great weeky match, see you next week. Andrew kelleher
share and partners Last Get Power Insurance came to the party.
Net profit eighty three. Is that good? Yes, because previously
we're seventy four. Underlying profit is up. Gross, written premiums
are up large. Event costs seven point two million dollars.
They say last couple of years have been out of
the ordinary. It's unlikely to continue, which is good and

(11:53):
from their point of view, well, they called it an
exceptional result, which we like those. But they added five
thousand new customers, So there's five thousand of us who
wanted across the tower because we liked the cut of
their jib. Six twenty one. You're a News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
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Speaker 2 (12:17):
Coup Time, Guineabassau, This time Africa? Yet again? Do you
know I read a report I think about it yesterday,
I Ritter report and it was a number of years ago,
but I have no reason to believe it. It wouldn't
be applicable today and it was a comprehensive report. It
was a global report, and it looked at Africa as
a continent. And they said, if Africa ever got attact together,
you know, and the military got themselves under control and
the crooked behavior stopped and the gerrymandering of elections, in

(12:41):
other words, of Africa became the first world they would
outgrow China, they would drive the global economy. That's how
much potential there is in that continent. Anyway, back in Guineabassau,
the president, he's been arrested. There's been an election. Both people,
the two main players, the president and the previous president.
They both claimed victory. They've taken over the television station

(13:02):
and they're going to be hanging out there until something
comes through by way of a result. So yet again
Africa letting itself down six to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
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Speaker 11 (13:14):
Oh Now.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Now in Australia, the PGA Awards have been held this week.
As in golf, so the winner of the Greg Norman
Medal for the best Australian golfer on the world stage
this year was women's world number four Minshi Lee. Now
it's least fourth time winning this particular middle and she
wasn't there because she's out there actually playing golf, So
she asked her brother to do the honest.

Speaker 13 (13:34):
The great Norman medal again fourth time. At this point,
I should probably just ask them to engrave my name
permanently on it so no one else.

Speaker 11 (13:42):
Gets their hopes up.

Speaker 13 (13:43):
Honestly, I'm starting to feel bad for everyone who had
a great season, only to remember I exist must be tough.
I'd like to thank the selection panel for continuing to
make excellent choices. Your taste is impeccable to my fellow
Ossie golfers. Keep pushing, keep improving, because one day, maybe
not soon, you might finish close to me. And of

(14:05):
course shout out to my team, my family and everyone
who supports me. You keep me grounded, which is honestly
impressive considering how high above the rest of the field
I apparently keep finishing. Anyway, I'm the best brother ever.

Speaker 11 (14:18):
Cheers very good.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
I feel like you've got a case there. She sounds
like she's completely lifted that word for word of most
of your acceptance speeches.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
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I didn't know whether to take that it was a
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(14:51):
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Speaker 6 (14:54):
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Speaker 2 (14:55):
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Speaker 6 (15:04):
Is it too early for the show? We've gone this
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Speaker 2 (15:09):
So se news for you in a couple of moments,
and then we'll look at these spending numbers as the
economy slowly recovers.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
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Speaker 2 (15:28):
We plee the logust on the ducing situation and Thanksgiving
in America. Richard Donald standing by on that. Addie sa
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by the way, not Dan Richie Carter Will Jordan's voting
baron twenty three minutes away from seven A, yet more
evidence that the turnaround is on. As Andrew mentioned a
couple of moments ago, are the retail numbers look pretty good?
Don't they? Q three out one point nine percent? That's

(15:49):
four hundred and seventy two million dollars. Electronic Goods were
loving them, up nine point eight percent, Motor Eagles and
Parts up seven point two percent. Carolyn Young, Retail New
Zealand CEO, is with us. Carolyn, Good morning, Lord Ena, Mike,
how are you very well? Indeed, do you join us
this morning with a party hatting some streamers on?

Speaker 14 (16:05):
Absolutely? Look, we take any good news we can, and
it's Black Friday today, so we're hoping all of your
listeners are going to get out there and get some
bargains in New Zealand shop.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
What happened in Q three?

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 15 (16:19):
Look?

Speaker 14 (16:19):
You know when you think about motor vehicles, when you
look at the actual numbers versus the season adjusted, you
know motor vehicles are nine point two and electronic goods
up twenty three point three. I think that you know,
largely there'll be a little bit about end of government years.
So one July is the start of the new government year,
and some people with contracts may have things that have

(16:40):
outlined in terms of that way, and we know that
with large items they can be really lumpy. So if
leases had come up and people had to repurchase new
vehicles or any of those sorts of things, that may
well clearly obviously happened, and that's that third quarter. So
that makes a signal difference when you take those out

(17:01):
on everything else. But look, you've got to take anything
where you can in terms of retail at.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
The moment, that is the truth regionally fourteen of sixteen regions.
You can't argue with that. That's that's broad based, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's good. It's you know, we haven't
been able to have conversation like this for a very
long time.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
And just to confirm this is this is inflation adjusted.

Speaker 14 (17:24):
No, the actuals would be the actual numbers, is my understanding.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
So does that take that take the spin off them?
Then in that case, have you take inflation out of
these numbers or not? I mean, is a trend. We've
got a trend here or not is what I'm trying
to work out.

Speaker 11 (17:40):
Well early days.

Speaker 14 (17:41):
But it's a you know, the whole green Shoots conversation
at the start of something, because if you take out
twenty three point two percent increase in electronic goods and
nine point two of motor vehicles, you know, it's mixed
for some of the other categories where you've still but
you know, we're still looking at a quarter. We're saying
we're up, so we haven't done that in a very

(18:04):
long time. That could give us a really good indication
that the reserve bank cuts of the official cash rate
are starting starting to have an impact for consumers.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
And so this is Q three. What's your vibe on
where we're right now?

Speaker 16 (18:18):
In Q four in terms of discretionary spend, the retailers
and those categories are still saying it's a bit mixed.
They're really needing more.

Speaker 14 (18:29):
Look, we've had some news from some of the bigger
retailers about some challenges that they're facing, and this next
four weeks are critical. So you know, if we can
see an uplift and snymptis and especially after the official
cash rate changed on Wednesday. Then you know that will

(18:51):
set us up potentially for a stronger twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, let us hope. So Carolyn, always good to have
you on the program, appreciated Carolyn Young. Who's the retail
in New Zealand. So it's I just cannot work out
the traffic. I'm assuming it's Black Friday esque. Somebody suggested
to me it's a whole lot of people hanging around
in Auckland from the Metallica constant. They can't work out
how to get home. I don't know that that part's true,
but something, something's going on and round the rest of
the country. Let me know there's a fresson about the

(19:16):
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(20:35):
commute from the north Shore MIC each day traffic over
the past three weeks heaviest I've ever experienced. Ye, I'm
feeling that too, Craig Mike have been an extremely tough
year but had to buy a daughter a laptop for
twenty six salesman said, it's been slow, very slow, even
this week. Well, see that's your anecdotal versus the stats
we've just given you. Stats don't lie. Electronics sales are
up and up significantly. So you know, at the end

(20:56):
of the day, everyone's got a story. But who's right?
Sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Still correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business which and I.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Have you thanksgiving Ah, thank you, Mike. Yes, on this
festival day exactly before we get to that, where are
we I mean I watched the press conference with the
talent car I mean where are we at with the shooting?

Speaker 17 (21:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (21:17):
Well on modern day reality is casting a bit of
a shadow on the celebration day as investigators are looking
into the background of a twenty nine year old man
who opened fire on two National Guards members just a
couple of blocks in the White House. Those Guards, twenty
year old Sarah Beckstrom and twenty four year old Andrew Wolf,
were shot in the head, still in critical condition fighting
for their lives. The shooter was a twenty nine year
old who worked with a CIA backed unit in Afghanistan

(21:39):
during the war. He was shot during this attack, but
he is expected to survive. We now find that he
drove a cross country from Seattle, where he's been living,
with a plan to commit this attack. Apparently he was
armed with a three fifty seven revolver and after shooting
one guard member, he opened fire again as that soldier
fell to the ground. So this was just grusin as

(22:00):
has a witness, a man named Patrick, who says he
heard eight or nine shots. It was just shocking.

Speaker 15 (22:04):
The one that was closest to me who was you know,
I mean, I don't want to make too many assumptions,
but he was leading from the head and the MPD
officer was applying pressure to his head. He was conscious,
he was moving his arms around. They were talking to him.
I don't know if he's responding back necessarily.

Speaker 18 (22:21):
Well, hopefully these victims will pull through. As for the shooter,
he had worked with the CIA in Candahart in what
were called Zero Units, which was a paramilitary force plane
trained for nighttime raids on televan targets and who also
were accused by human rights groups of widespread killings of civilians.
He was one of around seventy six thousand Afghans brought

(22:43):
to this country and the chaos which surrounded the American withdrawal.
The shooter now is described by someone who knows him
as being disturbed by the operations of that CIA unit
and who have suffered from mental health issues. We'll see
what more emergers on this. President Trump is saying, I.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Am determined to ensure that the animal who perpetrated this
atrocity pays the steepest possible price.

Speaker 19 (23:05):
Well.

Speaker 18 (23:05):
In a video statement, Trump is blaming Biden, while new
information shows it was the Trump administration that approved the
shooters a soylum application just earlier this year. Trump also
railed against refugees in that speech, refugees as a whole,
and he spoke out against Somalians resettled in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Hundreds of thousands of Somalians are ripping off our country
and ripping apart that once great state.

Speaker 18 (23:32):
You know, the suspected shooter is from Afghanistan. He had
nothing to do with Somalia.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Was he eating the Swans as well? Now celebration, I
mean it's Thanksgiving time for some football and some cake
and some beer.

Speaker 18 (23:45):
You were talking traffic. I'm traveling only a short way
today to have Thanksgiving with some friends, which on the
travel front is pretty good because this could be the
busiest travel day in this country's history. That's what they're saying.
Nearly eighty two million people beyond the movers. The expectation,
how they do that count, but that's what they're saying,
six million flying, seventy three million or so on the roads.
The Turkey Day, of course, features what you say, the

(24:06):
big meal, turkey and cranberries and pecan pie and so on.
I don't eat turkey, you said, seafood inside dishes and
so on, and many others are veering away from the
traditional as well. Another friend told me yesterday they're having pizza.
I don't think the Pilgrims did that. However, there are
football games rostered and the biggest of the parades is
playing out in New York City, which is hosting the

(24:27):
ninety ninth version of their Macy's Parade, which began with
since the Arivo from Wicked.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Salud, It's a new day, It's a new fee.

Speaker 18 (24:44):
They're also featuring Broadway performers like this Cuban themed cast
from the Buena Vista Social Club. So Mike ready to remember.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Good on you, mate, You have a good one. We'll
catch up next week. Appreciate it very much. Richard Arnold
State Side Lions, Packers, Cowboys, Chiefs. Imagine if the Chiefs
lose again, Ay season over, I reckon and the Cowboys
are on a roll. Ravens Bengals. I'm not overly interested
in that one, but we'll see how we go. Movie time.
By the way, Thanksgiving big big box office in the state.
I mean it's not literally a big box office because

(25:16):
no one goes to the movies anymore. But they hope
for good things that topia III. They reckon one thirty
five to one fifty for the Thanksgiving weekend. I mean,
it obviously hasn't happened. That's their anticipation. Wicked for good
they think is going to add another one hundred million.
The record is four hundred and twenty four million. This
year is going to get nowhere near it, unfortunately, which

(25:37):
once again sort of confirms that in a way, the
movies ain't what they used to be. Ten away from sep.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast were the Defender and Us Togs
deadb Mike.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
We live on the street that connects to the motorway,
so traffic gets busy. We notice that we've been seeing
longer queues on a regular basis recently. We're wondering if
that is because the economy is picking up. Well, it's
either Black Friday or the economy, or Christmas or the
where or I don't know. Good morning, Mike. There's a
real business bars. I was at Manecow Supercenter last Thursday,
packed people buying. Katie was in them all the other

(26:08):
day and she said, you can't believe the number of people.
So they're all wandering. They're either all wandering around with
bubble tea or they're actually buying things. Mike, I think
the mood has changed. Last night we went to k
Mark but Tony eight thirty, expecting a few to be there.
It was packed, trolley's full, et cetera, et cetera. Can
I just say, and this is another insight into what

(26:28):
I was trying to say at the beginning of the program,
Renailer Love and Construction. We dealt with the company yesterday,
Courier Company. I'm not going to name them. Under different circumstances,
I might, but I'm in a good mood because it's
Christmas anyway, they're bloody useless. They're honestly. So we were
expecting something on Monday and they said to be there Monday,
Tuesday at the outside. Thursday, of course nothing to be
seen and they ring up and go, you know, and

(26:50):
we needed it because we got people that are involved
in it, et cetera, et cetera. And they said, look,
we will do our best by five pm fri Our Thursday.
And we said, well, can you you know is that
and they go, well, yeah, it might be, it might
not be. And then they got all crappy with this
and they said, well, it's busy. It's peak season. And
I thought, that's not a surprise, mate. It's peak season

(27:11):
at Christmas every time. And one of the good things
about peak season, if you're on the business of transporting stuff,
might just be you're doing more business. So how about
you employ some people and get some vans and expand
to meet the market. Bloody hell, five minutes away from
seven and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
It's the fiz with business fiber. Take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Do your job, red meat. This is more good news.
October export numbers eight hundred and twenty seven million. Is
that a lot? Yes, twenty seven percent increase on last year.
US up thirty six percent, EU up thirty one percent,
UK up one hundred and thirty percent, Canada is up
fifty five. China's down. There's still a problem. They're down eight.

(27:58):
There's still a problem quality quantity because the sheep. The
sheep's really the story. I mean, we're selling way more
beef than we're selling sheep. But sheep is back to
a degree. So export's up ten percent, values up forty eight.
And that's quality for you, because you know, you go
by a withered up bit of British lamb at Sainsbury's,
it's bollocks you buy a bit in New Zealand name
you know what you're talking about. Beef export's overall down seven,

(28:20):
but the values up fifteen. We've exported more of the
sheep meat to the EU than ever than ever, twenty
seven thousand tons to the value of three hundred and
ninety million dollars worth. That's up twenty percent in quantity
but fifty six percent in value. So sheep meet is
back in a big way. The other thing that came
out of it, by the way, is that the US

(28:42):
continues to keep on keeping on in the terms that
they The official statement from the beef and lamb people
was the tariff scene not to be making any difference
because at the end of the day, and that's why
Trump's moved. And I'm going to be fascinating to see
the numbers after the drop down to one or two
percent from the fifteen percent it was after Trump capitulated,
because we weren't really being affected by the tariffs in

(29:04):
the first place, because people will buy through quality and
so if you get it back down and by the
time you get Brazil in Australia involved, then the Americans
literally cannot get enough of beef and they cannot grow enough.
There is no sign of them buying more cows. They
can't afford the cows. They don't have the land. The
lands too expense of there's no rain, it's all full
of drought. So you know they need to import it.

(29:24):
It's as simple as that. So those numbers I think
are due to get even better, which is encouraging now
due to Collins this inquiry into the Phillips situation, So
what does that mean? Also we're getting insight, so Nicolat
there yesterday as a Finance minister, Jaw boning the Bejesus
out of this business of the Reserve Bank telling the
retail banks to get on with it and do the cuts?
Have the cuts been made? Are the deals out there

(29:47):
to be done?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
We'll have a look short, credible, compelling, the breakfast show
you've con't miss it's the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities,
Life Your Way, News Talks past seven.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
So we've got a public inquiring into the disappearance of
the Tom Phillips and has children. That'll look at where
the government agencies took all practicable steps to protect the
children's safety and welfared Judith Collins as the ag and
as with us good morning, Good morning Mike. Is this
standard or driven by genuine specific concern?

Speaker 20 (30:18):
Well, the fact is that's very genuine specific concern. We
haven't had anything quite like this that I can certainly
recall children taken off by their father, essentially kidnapped and
then on the run for almost four years in the
bush with all sorts of people trying to do something

(30:40):
but actually nothing that we can see, if each way
is until he was shot and their children then saved.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
In looking at the agencies involved, the government agencies involved,
do we I mean, you will know were there agencies
involved with the family prior to the event.

Speaker 20 (30:59):
I don't actually know that one, but from what I
can see, it would be unusual if their work given
the whole family caught decisions around custody. So I think
what we do need to find out is what how
did they react? Goes? You know, obviously want to take
this back a little way, this inquiry so that they

(31:21):
can actually look at what the agencies were doing and
how they were doing it. But I think too, you know,
some we'll find that some of the agencies or the
agencies will have done some stuff that people don't know
about what was really good. The trouble is we don't
know about that, and secondly those children might not know.
I mean, this is going for the public and for

(31:43):
us all to know about how things worked or didn't work,
but actually it's really for the children. So I mean,
once they grow up a little bit, Mike, I think
there'd be a really helpful thing if they know that
some people tried very hard for them.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
How constrained Moore? How constrained is mister Moore on this given.

Speaker 20 (32:03):
He's constrained within with him within the terms of reference,
which are quite white. But they're also not going down
the pathway of reviewing the whole family court or looking
at the system as such as saying what happened in
this case, So we have to be otherwise we could
be going on for years, and factually, I think we

(32:24):
need to get this done, get some answers, and give
these kids something that when they're a little bit older,
they can say some people try their best. Some people
obviously didn't succeed, but at least somebody tried.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
And how constrained will we be, given the courts and
the legals around it, that we will ever hear the
full story.

Speaker 20 (32:45):
I think we'll know enough that we need to know.
I mean, obviously there's a lot of rumors flying around
on this, and it is important though that the detail
is to how how this was aided to happen, and
were there things that government agencies could have done better?

(33:07):
Are there any lessons there are there also some people
who might who might shine actually frankly from it. But
I think we do need to know that we don't
need to know all the gruesome details. We certainly don't
need to know what's happened with the children since we
don't need to know what's happened to the children in

(33:29):
the bush. I think meant it's my view why because
it's number one there's suppression orders, but also number two
it's just common decency. Frankly, these kids need a chance
to have a life.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Good on you, I appreciate. I have a good weekend,
Judith Collins, the Attorney General. Ten minutes past seven, the
jaw boning Post Reserve Bank cash righte movers begun the
Finance Ministy yesterday heaping pressure on the retail banks to
pass on those cuts in full. Well are they Bruce
Patten's loan market mortgage advisor and as well, there's Bruce
morning to you. Good have they No.

Speaker 12 (34:01):
No, not at all. They're like a bunch of possins
in the headlights at the moment they're waiting for someone
to make the first move. They didn't all pass on
the full floating discount, and they're holding some really good
margins at the moment we can see that we're given
they're paying one and a half percent cash if you
move to them. So I'd like to succeee them pass
them on the full Christmas everybody needs it, you know,

(34:23):
so they somebody needs to make the move.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
So if you're in the camp at the Nikola Willis
camp that we these guys are not good actors and
they're not playing their part, this is evidence to suggest
Nicola might be on to something.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Is that fair? Oh?

Speaker 12 (34:36):
Absolutely? Break cost for a client for three years at
four nine to nine it's twenty grand at the moment
and you're now only getting four point seven nine for
a three year. That tells me that they could be
doing three years of at least four and a half.
So you know, there's definitely movement. Somebody needs to make it.
I'd like to see them make it in the longer
term because if we are at the bottom of the cycle,

(34:56):
people are going to want to fix for two or
three years. So there's no reason why we shouldn't have
of those rates at leap.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Okay, so what's your vibe if you're in the fours,
If you're in the mid falls and you're locking that
up for five years, that's about as good as it gets.

Speaker 12 (35:09):
Oh yeah, Look, if you could get five years at
four and a half, I'd be happy with that. It's
self funding, if it's an investment, you know, the rents
covering the mortgage. Everybody wins at that level.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
What's your vibe on this whole break free break fee?
You know we'll give you cash. Let's change banks? Do
people change banks in big numbers? Is it easy or
too hard?

Speaker 12 (35:31):
It depends on the client and how long they've got left.
The reality is it works for the minority of people
at this point in time, but as a whole, give
us lower interest rates longer term and everybody does better.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Good stuff, Bruce, good Insight, appreciate you time very much
and you have a good weekend. Bruce Patton, who's the
loan market mortgage advisor, is really disappointed. The woman whose
name it eludes me for now on the Monetary Policy
committee that fronted up to the press conference a couple
of days ago, she alluded to it as the margins
that the banks are running the retail banks. But she
alluded to it in a I don't want to get involved.

(36:05):
I'm a bit namby pamby heaven forbid, I should say
something controversial kind of way, and I don't like people
like that. If you've got a point to make, the
bloody point, and if the banks are ripping us off,
say they're ripping us off. We need to do something
about it. So I'm more than happy to apologize to
Nikola Willis because I've argued that I can't really make
up my mind on who's the bad actor here, whether
Nicholas is overegging this or whether the banks actually actually

(36:26):
aren't playing the board. But you know, you can't argue
with the margins. Look at the margins, the margins and
the margins, and the banks keep defending it, but they're
big margins. Thirteen past. Retail retailer is back. My daily
people actually carrying shopping purchases is up significantly, underpinned by
retailer feedback. Q four will be respectable. That's Mark Thomas.
Now I'm glad Mark actually texted us this morning. Mark Knopf.

(36:48):
Thomas is the is the mouthpiece for Newmarket, which is
Nearia in Auckland, and he won I happen to know
this week the Prince Award. The Prins are the public
Relations Institute. He won the Prince Award for I don't
know officially what it is, but for the best you know,
guys who do what he does. He won the award
for the best in the country. And there I suggest well,
deserved too, because that guy hustles for his region. He

(37:11):
is a star player and we need more of those.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Fourteen past the high asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 2 (37:21):
At b head A Windsor former manager at Williams and
F one and Ferrari in if one. He's with us
with the Qatar Talk and Liam Laws with the news
on Liam this Morning or the news ish on Liam
this Morning. More later seventeen past seven. Now speaking of transport, actually,
he's scooters are still the thing. Acc claims have now
hit fourteen million this was the year so far. That's
up from say six million five years ago. So the

(37:43):
government is looking to move these scooters into cycle lanes.

Speaker 11 (37:45):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Jackson Love is the co creator of Flamingo scooters and
is with us Jackson.

Speaker 11 (37:49):
Morning, Good morning, Mike. How are you going very well?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Indeed, your ones, the purple ones is flaming to the
purple ones. Where the pink one, the pink ones. My apologies,
the key, we owned one the key. That's what we
want on some patriotism. Just give us quick insight into
the market. Is the market uses all that sort of stuff?
Is it still growing or is it settled or what.

Speaker 11 (38:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (38:08):
No, absolutely, from our perspective, it's going so yeah, good uptake,
good increase. And what we're seeing is usage move to
more genuine mode shifts, so much more travel on the
weekdays supposed recreationally on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Ah, that's interesting because I was going to say the opposite,
but you would know more than I. I'm just seeing
a bunch of people wandering around aimlessly, so you would
say the last mile thing is a thing.

Speaker 11 (38:31):
Now, absolutely yep.

Speaker 21 (38:33):
And seeing them replace those short distance car journeys as well.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So if you put these things in bike lanes or
cycle lines, you're going to need the lanes in the
first place. So how are you going to handle that?
I mean, how would that rule work if you don't
have a cycle line?

Speaker 11 (38:46):
Well, I think, yeah, we're pretty lucky at the moment.

Speaker 21 (38:48):
That scooters can be used on both footpaths or on
the road.

Speaker 11 (38:54):
We see sort of our earlier adopters.

Speaker 21 (38:57):
Wanting a comfortable location of an introduction on the footpath
and then our more experienced riders on the road, And
I think just adding the cycle paths or the cycle
lanes makes a lot of sense, you know, clears up confusion,
and it's just a wind for common sense and for
both riders.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
And people would welcome it. You would argue as opposed
to going, we'll hold on. The more rules there are,
the less likely I am to use an EE scooter
if someone's going to ping me.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
Yeah, exactly, well, exactly right.

Speaker 21 (39:24):
I think it's adding an extra option, And like you say,
biplanes definitely offer a safer environment than the road, but
also help keep footpaths clear and more comfortable for pedestrians.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Do you guys do the sit down version, like with
the seat where you sit down? Do you do that?

Speaker 11 (39:39):
Yeah, we have some of the sit down versions.

Speaker 21 (39:41):
They prove pretty popular for the slightly longer journeys and
potentially increase accessibility for those who can't stand for long.

Speaker 11 (39:49):
Periods, but not so much in winter.

Speaker 22 (39:51):
Mic.

Speaker 11 (39:51):
No one wants a wetum.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
That is the truth. That is the truth. The best
quote of the morning so far. It is only seven
to twenty, but no one wants a wet bump, And
you can't argue with that sort of logic. Jackson Love
who's the co creator of Flamingo, and they are the
pink ones, not the purple ones. It is seven twenty, the.

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credibility as they pretty much ignore the whole story? Are
the all black six? See stated better than the critics

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an F one season you thought was over, it ain't over.

(42:06):
Regional Council's eight bold call, good call. Well we'll be
better off for the call Ginny Anderson in Steak six.

Speaker 10 (42:14):
It was delicious and may enjoyed it worth a good
red wine.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Who had her down as a surreptitious food neckaray the
ocr seven. I mean we got there in the end,
Actually did we.

Speaker 10 (42:26):
Get there in the end?

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Fingers crossed? Job ads eight up and significantly up. Green Shoots,
Green Shirts, Green Shoots are All's fair? Six got a
second season? Who lose biggest hit in the years. No,
it's not our a law or Shit's Creek or Friends
or Landman. But the snobbery blinded too many of the
so called critics. If you haven't seen it, give it ago.
Rachel Reeves too.

Speaker 23 (42:45):
I know how worried families are about the cost of everything.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Have a look at her work on taxas and ask
yourself how far removed Barbara Edmonds's or isn't speaking of labor?
Michael Woods three? I mean, honestly, people who can't stay away,
they've got about them, don't they surrender? By Thursday four?

Speaker 7 (43:04):
I'm not like those other politicians, I guess in many ways.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I mean, it wasn't that yet another hair brain thought
bubble by a bloke who looks increasingly either unhinged, or
tired or rolled or mad or possibly all of those things.
The New Zealand Rural Game seven, some of the best
news of the week, The dog Show back on Tally,
I mean, come on full circle, moment past the k bars.
That's the week, copies on the website and like all
marking the weeks, this received an a from Auckland University

(43:29):
being doesn't everything pasking Mike adecent component of the bank's
cost of money is the bond markets, so not just OC.
In the last week the New Zealand ten years have
gone up, not down, as have most global bonds. So
I'd suggest this is a bit more complex than what
you think. Grant, you're right, and the more I read,
the more I listen, the more nuanced. I don't know
if it's complex, but nuanced is probably the word. And
so that's why I remained sort of broadly on the fence.

(43:51):
You can sway me either way. Nicola could spend some
time on this program and by the end of it,
I'd go, yeah, actually they're robber barons. And then equally
I get Antony Watson or Yukovich on the program, and
that swing me back the other way, because basically I'm
just a hopelessly confused Willy wofter re beef going to America.

(44:12):
Does that mean my stake here are slowly becoming unaffordable? Yes,
it does, and then that is an odd piece of
good news. It's butter two point zero because as they
pay more with their US dollars, which are vastly different
from the New Zealand peso, as they pay more, you
too will pay more for your beef, and that is
a good thing, because that is what we do as

(44:33):
a nation. No, it's not good that you can't afford
sake anymore, and wouldn't be nice if we or could,
But you can't. But we can't because we are making
our way in the world, and that is no bad thing.
Guitar Penultimate Round got a sprint race in there as well,
Liam Lawson, News to tell you Peter Windsor is next.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
No fluff, just facts and fierce debate, the my Hosking,
breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the impossible news to dead
be Just to return.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
To the beef situation. So yes, I'm reading a fascinating number.
The good thing about inflation and food as far as
I can work out as this, and I didn't realize
this is that McDonald's used six thousand tons of locally
sourced beef in this country. Globally, they serve seventy million
people a day with beef. Two percent of the world's
beef is used at McDonald's, which I thought was a
semi fun fact. Anyway, beef mints is up eighteen percent.

(45:22):
So the overall food prices last number we got with
four point seven. The good news around that is originally
it was five and then it's gone down to four
point seven, so still up but not up by as much.
But the average price of beef is up eighteen percent.
Now that is a direct result of globally, yes, but
particularly America. So an answer to the text is question

(45:43):
earlier on am I going to be paying more for
my beef? Yes, you are, and the answers on beef
mints anyway, it's eighteen percent. But here's the good news.
I mean, you might not see it as good news,
but you don't have to eat beef the same way
you don't have to eat butter, and that's for inflationary purposes.
Good news for you because you don't have to buy
the things that are more expensive. You can buy the
things that are actually a bit cheaper.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
I was going to say that the good news about
that is that I found that with both chicken and
beef getting more and more expensive, suddenly seafood and fish.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
See if it looks good, it seems cheap as salmon isn't.
Because I got an alert the other day from somebody
we deal with in the salmon department. They're having trouble
with salmon at the moment in terms of supply, and
therefore the price of salmon has gone through the roof.
And Katie was reporting to me the other day she's
on after rates. I'll tell you specifically what it was,
but it was something like seventy nine or eighty dollars
a kilo, which makes it more expensive. Then I fill

(46:35):
it at the moment, it makes I feel it look cheap.
So we're not going to have can I say, we're
not going to have Peter Windsory's gone? Unfortunately Peter Winsor
is our f one man and we can't find them,
so I don't know where he's disappeared to, so our apologies.
But I can tell you about Liam Lawson and we'll
make a call on this. Because mecheis who is the
team principal at Red Bull. I wanted to ask Peter
about the Adrian Newey thing. It's gone off in f

(46:56):
one circles the Adrian Newey decision. Yesterday I told you
about it. Esthermunt's god off and everyone seems to share
the same concern I have, which is he's a genius,
and you keep geniuses in their genius department. You don't
spread them about the whole company all over the place,
because you're going to stretch them. So that's what worries
about me. Anyway, Be that as it may. So Mechis

(47:17):
says overnight that we're going to make the decision on
the seats for next year after Katar. So what we
got originally was Marco Helmet said after Mexico, and everyone
went after Mexico and couldn't work out whether it was
literally after Mexico or just some time after Mexico like
the end of the year. Then it got pushed back
to the end of the year. So two more races.
One is this weekend in Quitar, and then Mechis Overnight

(47:39):
says after Quitar this week we will be announcing the decision.
When they say making the decision I'm assuming it's already
been made, and that will mean we will know what
happens to Liam next year.

Speaker 11 (47:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I had, funnily enough, a text earlier on this morning
from one of my better F one contacts who told me,
apart from anything else, I'm sidebarring here for a moment,
indulge me. There's an F one car in Adelaide this
weekend at the supercars, and David Coulthard was going to
be driving that particular car. Because David Coulthard's in Australia.
We were going to have David Coulthard on the program
at some point, but now we're not going to do

(48:14):
that later on next year because he's coming to the country.
But I'll tell you about that another time. Anyway, for
some reason, we can't work out why Coulthard's not now
driving the car. It's the RB seven, the Red Bull
RB seven, that was the car of Vettel and Webber.
Vettel and Webber anyway, So who's driving the car at
Adelaide over the weekend. The answer is Brendan Hartley, So

(48:35):
they're ring Brendana. Wouldn't that be good? You're sitting there,
sitting at home in Taupo phone rings and they go,
do you want to come to Adelaid for the weekend?
Drive the car? He's never driven the car, and he's
never driven on the Adelaide track street circuit of course,
but he's so he's going across the week he's going
to drive it. So that's going to be something quite exciting.
Where was I right? Liam Lawson will hold a seat.
Here's my call this morning. So it seems they're obsessed

(48:56):
with Lynn Ladd, who's the F two guy who's done okay,
but he's not you know, you're not looking at him
going oh my god, there's a talent. But it does
put weight on the idea that racing bulls is a
starter or a setup or a seed team. In other words,
you get the young guys and you feed them into
a red Bull itself. So that gives his decision weight.

(49:19):
So you then left with Sonoda and Lawson because Hedges
going to Red Bull. That's my other call. Everyone assumes
Hedges going to Red Bull hasn't announced, but let's say
Hedges going to Red Bull. So it's Sinoda v Lawson
in the seat. What's the disadvantage in Sonoda, Well, he's
not new, he's not young. He's been there for five years. Therefore,
if you're putting lind Ladden in a seed team, then

(49:40):
why would you keep Sinoda there? You go, Oh, for experience,
fair enough, but Lawson's got enough experience to help him
out and they value his engineering prowess. So that's why
I think Lawson holds a seat and will be in
there for twenty twenty six. The other story they tell
you about Sonoda and no one seems to have picked
this up, and I can't work out why is they go, Oh,

(50:01):
Sonoda's going to go to Aston Martin as their reserve driver. Well,
Aston Martin's already announced their reserve driver. It's a guy
called Jack Crawford. So Jack Crawford's their reserve driver. Why
would Snoda be their reserve driver. He wouldn't be. Hence
the weight being put on the idea that Snoda with
Honda are going off to Indy cars.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
Do we have any reason to think that Hedge is
going to do any better?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
None?

Speaker 6 (50:22):
And the Red Bull car than Soda or indeed isn't.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Very good question, Glynn, None whatsoever, apart from the fact
that the car next year is a completely new car. Now,
if they build that car to suit for stap In,
which they will, then the second car will be the
same problem. If they don't build it to the suit
for stap In as much as they have this current car,
then Hager might get lucky and he might have a
good car, and he's a good driver, and a good

(50:47):
driver will drive a good car. But a good driver
can't drive a crazy car, which is the car they've
got at the moment. That's the way Mike sees it.

Speaker 6 (50:55):
Is that one of those ones that's got the indicator
on the wrong side that will throws me.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
And the gear stick with the gear six and it's
a strange place and you've got to twist your ankle
for the pedal. It's difficult.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
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Speaker 2 (51:14):
Mike Norris is about to become McLaren's most captif one
driver at one hundred and fifty one gps, ahead of
call Time's one hundred and fifty. I didn't know that
that's a fun stat. He doesn't appear to have been
around that long, mind you. That a lot of races
these days isn't there Back in the collar days, they
went as many races, Mike, the delay isn't deciding the
third seats deciding who goes with Max? Is that true?
Are you associated with an F one team? I don't
understand that to be the case. You're saying that they're

(51:36):
still thinking Sonoda might stay. I don't know that that's
I've not heard that from anybody. Mike had just said
in an interview this morning he has a seat for
next year. That's not a surprise. Just watch the weekend
build up cover at F one TV. Do you like that, Chris?
I struggle with that. I don't know that that's a
high quality product. I watch it most times there's a race.
I just look at those and I go to these
guys anyway. Just watch the weekend build up. Yes, they

(51:58):
think Liam is safe. Note is gone.

Speaker 22 (52:01):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I know you like Lawson, but really, what's he done well?
He's done. He's in the midfield in his inaugural season.
He's in the midfield, and he's scored a good number
of points and he's done reasonably well. He's had a
bit of bad luck, but there's a good number of
others in that field. That I jettison well, before I
jettisoned him, Mike pstre might go to Redbill. No you won't.
You're making that up. Stop spreading conspiracy theories. Let me

(52:24):
ask you this quick question. I've got two questions to
ask you what I have time for, So I'll go
with this one first. Audrey Young. I'm reading her yesterday.
I love Audrey and I love her experience and her
institutional knowledge and the way she writes and what she
brings to the New Zealand Herald and discussion in general.
And the reason I say that is she handed out

(52:45):
her brick bat to Christopher Luxen and she goes brick back,
goes to Christoph Luxeon for answering playing no three times
when asked if he was worried that nine of his
MP's could lose their seats on current polling. Now this
comes out of this, this what I regard as an
increasingly infamous press conference earlier on in the week at
the school where this math's success was announced, and the

(53:08):
media completely and utterly ignored the story. Thus, yet again,
in my mind, reaffirming just an overt bias from too
many in the media. They hate this government, they hate Luxeon.
They hate success, they love labor, they love dragging us
all down because you cannot explain to me in a
way that I can understand how you can produce the

(53:29):
results in maths they have and somehow ignore that as
a non story. Anyway. Part of the reason it was
missed was one, there was a wyata from the pupils
moaning about the Treaty of Waitangi and protesting the government's
stance on it, and some of the media thought that
was a better story. And two, once again off topic,

(53:49):
one of the journalists asked Luxon about on current polling,
you would lose nine EMPs. Are you worried about it?

Speaker 11 (53:56):
Now?

Speaker 5 (53:56):
What?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Clearly because I watched it, Luxon was referred to us. Now,
I'm not remotely worried about it, not because I don't
care about my fellow MPs, but because on current polling,
current polling is irrelevant, and we're not holding an election today,
and we're not holding an election for a very long
period of time, So why would I be worried about
something like that?

Speaker 11 (54:15):
Now?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Audrey says he should have said no because I don't
think that will happen, But he was just saying no
to shut down leadership questions. Now, she might be technically correct,
but then I am the week feeling sorry for somebody.
I mean, where you can't win, can you? If we're
going to micromanage and dissect every little bit of minutia

(54:36):
that falls out of the mouth of a politician, and
if this is the way we're going to go for
an entirety of twenty twenty six an election year, shoot
me now, because if you can't work it out for
yourself and you have to regurgitate it over and over again,
we're going to get very sick of the year, very quickly,
as far as I can work out. So I am
the week feeling a bit sorry for the Prime Minister

(54:58):
because you can't win ten minutes away from Ape.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
So my coffee breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks,
there'd be Jill.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
And Courty shortly seven away from it. In the country
that loves coffee, could we grow more and actually be
a decent sized producer? Do you realize we grow coffee
in this country? The far North is where you find
all the beans. We got twelve grows apparently about seven
thousand plants. Anyway, Peter Shepard is the chair of the
New Zealand Coffee Producers Association, Peter Morning.

Speaker 11 (55:24):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
The twelve growers. Is that stable or is that increasing?

Speaker 24 (55:30):
That's actually increasing at quite a rate. Lots of people
are starting to plant a few plants and find the
right soils in the right places to grow coffee. So
that's going to grow quite a lot in its coming years.
All the Far North so far, all the fine norths
because it has to be frost free. And you know
there's a really break microclimate right up in the Far
North which pretty much ensures that.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
And so see, I'm a coffee fanatic, but I didn't
even know we made it. What does it taste like
compared with the stuff we would get from Ethiopia or
Brazil or wherever. Is it unique?

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (56:02):
Well, the whole way that the coffee industry is going
like is to have specialist coffees and these can be
brewed in different ways and including fermentations of the beans
before the process. And so what we're going for is
that really high value specialty market, collaborating with wine industry
on some of the yeasts, for example, to get these

(56:22):
unique flavors that create these really high value products.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Wow. And so you sell. What domestically are you export?

Speaker 24 (56:29):
Well, there's a couple of places selling domestically at the moment,
but our long term aim is to go for that
high value global market wherever it might be, to create
a really high value industry here.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Have you got a volume problem at the moment with
just twelve grass and seven thousand plants? I mean, is
exporting a realistic possibility, not.

Speaker 24 (56:49):
For a couple of years. But we want a walk
before we get run, so to speak. So we're learning
as we go to make the highest quality product we can.
At the moment, the stuff that's available, it helps pretty
quickly to you know, enthusiastic coffee lovers around the country.
Like all these things, it takes a few years. Plants
take a while to grow, but there's huge potential here

(57:11):
and you know, we're on the beginning of a really
exciting journey.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Are you looking at byproducts and if you are, what
are they?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
Absolutely?

Speaker 24 (57:19):
You know, the pulp that comes off be turned into
a tea, for example, and that's you know, you can
buy that from other places around the world as well.
We're looking at processing that also in the Far North
into valuable.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Products interesting well, and we're stable in that sense, because
of course the reason the price of coffee's gone up
is climatically. It's a little bit of an issue globally
at the moment, isn't it?

Speaker 24 (57:41):
Absolutely? And I think that's what brings us into play here.
And now you know we're in a zone now thirty
five degrees south in the sort of Kataya region where
you know the climate is now over the last twenty
thirty years got warm enough actually to make this extremely viable.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Fantastic Peter go, well, it will stay in touch. Peter Sheppard,
who's the chair of the News Coffee Producers Association. My
new venture at the moment is is roasting beans. I'm
up there this weekend roasting my second batch. I've roasted
so far one hundred and twenty grams, which does which

(58:16):
doesn't make me one of the bigger roasters. So I've
got one hundred and twenty grams and I put it
in my eartight container and an absolutely delicious.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
As Peter says, you've got to walk before you can run, exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
So I'm going to roast my second one hundred and
twenty grams this weekend, and so that will make me
up to having roasted a whole packet and so I
got also this week, by the way, an extender pack
for my roasting machine. So that allows me to basically
go commercial and probably roast maybe two hundred grams at

(58:47):
a time. So don't hold me back. It's all on
Tim Acadie and the business and Barnaby Joys by the way,
Murray olds, I'm looking forward to his comic yesterday, Weird
Thing in the House. This was in the sentence Barnaby
resigned from the National Party, which was not unexpected, but
he did it in ninety seconds because they all had
a rule that they had to stand up and talk
for ninety seconds. So he did that. Then he came

(59:08):
outside and he did an interview and he made you know,
for a bloke, he's got a sort of a slightly
unhinged reputation. He made what I thought was some really
really interesting comments. So more with Murray alts after a
like thirty this morning. But as I say, Tom mcchady
next after the news he Redews.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fair
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
It is time to welcome to the program, Timothy Wilson
and Moryn hawks Be. Good morning, Good morning, good.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 23 (01:00:42):
Can I just apologize if there's any banging, crashing, drilling
in the background behind me? First of all, what you
need to know, Terim is Mikes and Komotes with our
tech guy, and they are constantly scheming behind my back
on how to upgrade everything in the house and get bigger, better,
faster tech And Mike is the most brief person around tech.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
So what he's not a tech guy?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
What's going?

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
How can we scheme over tech.

Speaker 19 (01:01:04):
He's like, he's the most analogue dude you can possibly
imagine exactly.

Speaker 23 (01:01:08):
But he likes big TVs. And so we've already done this,
and now in another room we've got an eighty five
and it's so big. I had no idea how big
eighty five inches was until the two career guys who
tried to carry it in were complaining they could barely
carry it. And next you see to me, they said,
to me, next time water a smaller TV. And I thought,
And then the guys have tuned up this morning to

(01:01:29):
put in them. Been here since seven thirty, big heart.
Mike's like, it'll be a non event, though it'll be
two minutes to be non event.

Speaker 6 (01:01:34):
I'll be still a bracket.

Speaker 23 (01:01:35):
Oh my god. The lounge is like dem ode. The
bracket is coming off. Everything's going to come out. And
you know what Mike's doing. He's more walking up to
the country and who's dealing with it?

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
All the you are? You are as usual?

Speaker 23 (01:01:50):
So he can sit back and watch fouring crap like
Parliament TV.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
On Christian Time on eighty five inches.

Speaker 19 (01:01:57):
All right, okay, there's the prosecut what's the defense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
I don't actually have one. To be honest, it sounds
it sounds, it sounds salty. Disturbing part. Is there a
new arm required out of the wall?

Speaker 23 (01:02:11):
No, because it's a Samsung frame. They sit flushed to
the wall. And that was the bit we forgot about.
And you were like, oh, be nothing, because they'll just
stick it on that big bracket. But no, that bracket's
got to come out. And then somehow we've got to
do something with the skybox. And so this is now a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Quandary message from Jason the boss. Can you tell Paul
we need a white skybox, not the black one. If
we've still got a black one, we need the white
one because the white one's got the four k.

Speaker 23 (01:02:38):
Oh really, gosh, I better tell them that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
You tell Paul.

Speaker 19 (01:02:42):
Okay, sorry, you guys just started speaking in another language.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
But that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Talk to me about the how much was salmon? This week?
You told me Katie, how much is salmon? Because they've
got salmon problems.

Speaker 23 (01:02:50):
I don't know why you're worried about the price of salmon.
Have you seen the price you.

Speaker 19 (01:02:56):
Actually, i've been I've been looking into this to help you,
and I've said I've seen a joint that can do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
It for the first question, what do you like at filliting?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Mike, Oh no, no, no, no, it's going to be No.
You've been filoting the cutting your you've been filting the banks,
the pollyes.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
You can do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
No, I'm not just listening. So you're just saying you're
going to sell me like a whole fish.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but but you won't believe the price.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Well, tell me how much is a high fish perkilo?

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Twenty two bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
That's pretty good. Actually, twenty two dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Here's what I've learned about this. This is markup. You
raise a very interesting point. So if you can sell
me a fish for twenty two dollars by the time
it gets smoked a in a bit of plastic at
ninety dollars, someone's doing something, aren't they. Someone's clipping that ticket.
I was talking to Carl, my coffee guy, and so
you get your beans at Tha.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Sorry is this your bean bloke?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
You've been getting your beans from Carl? Yeah, let's just
pause on that.

Speaker 23 (01:03:53):
Carl, the coffee bloke. Now he was round because Mike
was upgrading coffee machines, and.

Speaker 19 (01:03:57):
So he was here yesterday doing this Okay, it's like
you live with a three year old. We live with
an actual three year old, but you've got sex.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
But the point he loved was good. This was the
point he made. He said, you see a lot of
craft brewers going bust, but you don't see any coffee
roasters going bust. And I thought, actually, Ago, I think
Carl true that Carl, And I said Carl true there,
So I think he's on to something. Anyway, Where will
we well, so what do you want me to say? Katie?
You want me to come home? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
I want you.

Speaker 23 (01:04:28):
No, I don't want you to come home because you'll
freak out. I want you to stay away for as
long as possible. But don't underestimate how long it's going
to take, because you and your whole you'll be five
minutes and you'll be straight up for the country behind me.
I can be here for hours. So you just go
and enjoy yourself. Get some snooker under your belt.

Speaker 19 (01:04:41):
Where you go, Yeah, get some have some coffee beans,
you know, roast another what roast another five five grams
or so?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I need to talk to shall we just a quick question?
Shall we pay? Are you excited about the Dog Show
just quickly tim coming back on television next year. Did
you want to tell us?

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Of course, of course everyone watched the Dog Show. I
do not know if it's a movie though. Here's the deal.
I'm not sure it's a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
No, it's not a movie. But I'm not talking about
the movie. I'm talking about the dog Show. The Rural
Games coming back on television next year. It will be
like country Calendar. They'll show part of the games. One
of the whighlights of the Rural Game is going to
be a dog show, so dogs will round up sheet.
Would you watch that now or is that just a
memory thing?

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
Totally?

Speaker 19 (01:05:21):
Some some some bloke holding an extinguished rollie going get.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Him behind Mongrel Morel said, Mongrel, cut it out? Could
you brilliant?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Would you confidently say you could put your kids in
front of that television now and go, hit kids, this
is what I did when I was young. Have a
look at this and see what you think and they'd go, Wow,
that's cool. Or would they just go what the hell
are you looking at?

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Dad? I think I think I don't have to work
on the offering about I might have to do a
bit of phillotine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Yeah, I think so. Now, Simon Dello, should we pay
tribute to Simon Dello after the break or not?

Speaker 5 (01:05:52):
Yeah, let's do that now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
We should because you like you, Cadie, to set this up?
You work with Simon? Am I correct in saying that?

Speaker 23 (01:05:59):
Yeah? Yeah, great guy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Have you got some really cool gossip for us?

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:06:05):
I don't really have a fun anecdote for you or
some good gossip because Simon is a very contained human.
He's professional, and he is very much workers work and
his life is outside of work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
What about you, Timm, you got some dirt?

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:06:19):
He does, he does.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Anecdote, he does, he does. It's not it's not there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
You should have said, had a little bit di and OK,
a little bit of jail now for it's gone. Moment's gone.
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Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Played first fifteen rugby with Simon Della in eighty one,
played number eight, known for his spiral goalkicking, quite the skill.
Never seen him since I think We knew that, didn't we.
I think we knew he was a rugby player.

Speaker 23 (01:07:00):
He's one of those people that are really good at everything.
He's a really he's very competent guy.

Speaker 19 (01:07:07):
And he's a he's a thoughtful guy too, Like I mean,
just in terms of he he's someone who actually understood
the weight of the you know, the role he was fulfilling,
which is sort of you know, the guy who passed
the news on. It's sort of interesting in the sense
that he has got his departure.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Is the end of an era.

Speaker 19 (01:07:27):
It's a bit like, you know, you're you're talking about
the dog show, where everyone watched the dog show. Everyone
used to watch the six pm news, and now we're
increasing our public square. You know, you could talk about
it the next day, but now our sort of public
shared square.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
It's completely fragmented that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
It was one hundred percentury. Just to explain to everyone
in case and no one knows what the hell we're
talking about, and they're not up with it. Simon is
reading his last bulletin tonight. He as far as I know,
he's retiring and going to wander off into the world
and do some travel and stuff, which is I'm in
a way kind of envious of. But you now, you, Kadie,
you worked with them? Was it on TV two?

Speaker 23 (01:08:03):
No? TV one?

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Didn't you do the TV two thing? Who did the
TV two thing? For a while there was news headlines
or news at night or something weird liked that.

Speaker 23 (01:08:11):
I did a bit of TV two briefly, but there
was cal.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
It just like you just denied working on TV two
and you just said, no, I did work on TV two.

Speaker 23 (01:08:19):
It was just a brief thing. No that was that
was a different thing. And then we went back to
TV one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
But see Carl Stefanovic. Now there's a name people are
going to go hold on. See Carl Stefanovic is like
a major name in Australian television these days. Did you
set it on the great things back in TV two
when you work for TV two?

Speaker 23 (01:08:34):
It was funny because he was on a trajectory, so
he came here and he was part of that whole
Australians who come into a stunt to New Zealand sort
of like you know, go do some time and get
some roles fronting, and then when you go back it's
you know, it's sort of it speeds up their trajectory
when they go back to Australia, so he was doing that.
So he was always on a pathway to great things.

(01:08:55):
So he was here just to kind of get some
runs on the well. But he was also a really
cool guy. But what I love about Simon and Tim
is so right. It is the end of an era.
He's old school. He's that old school professional who you know,
really thought about the job. And he was always an
incredibly gracious co host, you know, which is really I
think anyone who's worked in tandem with anyone else appreciates
when the cohurst you're working with is generous and gracious

(01:09:16):
and thoughtful. That's really key, and that's often something the
viewers may not be aware of. But it's nice to
sit on a set with someone who is so, you know,
just professional and polite and lovely and gracious.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah, I think you said it better than I was
going to Tim, and that and that is that, news readers.
He's the last of them, I say, without standing on
anyone's feet and insulting anybody who still does the job.
I think he's the last of the proper ones these days. Sadly,
it would appear that you wanted down a corridor and go,
oh you're here today, are you?

Speaker 11 (01:09:46):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
You can read the bulletin tonight. That's got that vibe
about it. And I think he's the last of them.
And I'm a bit sad about that.

Speaker 23 (01:09:52):
And here's the thing, because it's a very much an
institutionalized thing when you get locked into TVs for too
long and getting out of it, said.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Him free, said him free. The thing that it's the subliminal.
And I'll say this about him, You never doubt he
knows what he's talking about. And there's many a newsreader
you go. You clearly have no idea what you're saying.

Speaker 19 (01:10:13):
We're just reading, you're just reading shapes on the teleprompet.

Speaker 23 (01:10:16):
He's a really really really bright guy. He is smart,
super super smart.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
And to his credit, I mean, we didn't ask him
to come on the program, but now having said all
this nice stuff about him, I feel like we should have.
But the thing is that he probably would have said nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
He would have know he doesn't like talking about himself. No,
he's actually very self contained.

Speaker 23 (01:10:36):
That's for he and you difference.

Speaker 19 (01:10:40):
No one knows about how big is TV screen and
how the place is being destroyed to install them to be.

Speaker 23 (01:10:45):
Fair, you are also actually quite like Simon and that
you are also an introvert and you don't caught a
lot of external publicity at all. Infect you hate it, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
So it's one of the great secrets of modern broadcasting. Actually,
most most people are introbutes that are in the public eye.
It's it's not a widely known in fact, how long
should I wait for you, Katie to come up to
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will be good.

Speaker 23 (01:11:12):
Can you hear the drilling or is that just me?
I've shut a door so that you can't hear, but
there is drilling going on. I'm confident I'll get up today.
I just don't know.

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The effect gave me to summertime fun anyway. Nice to
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Warehouse Husky nineteen sixty nine, Simon Dallo assisted as mother
cleaning the Panmeua police station. His father was the senior
start in charge of men Are you kidding Me? Nineteen
sixty niney cleaning the Panmea police station. It's like an
episode of This is Your Life? Simon in nineteen sixty nine.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
You and I either, I wouldn't have thought he was
that old.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Well he's sixty one.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
Wow, so he's super old.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
That's super old. It's older than me. Say, he would
have been like sex or seven. Simon and his is
very committed to his old schools in Peter's College in Norkland.
He's very unassuming man. It's a very nice way of
putting it. Simon was a fine player for the North
Shall rugby team. Mike landed on the remarkables in a
helicopter with Simon at the Queenstown Festival. There you go,

(01:13:22):
that's a bit of the private life there. Guy's got
his own helicopter. Actually, I don't think he's got his
own helicopter. M So that's nice. ABC interesting story out
of Australia and I'm going to be asking Luxon about
this on Monday. The ABC alone is going to get
fifty million dollars. Who from well, all the streaming companies
that have agreed to pay for local broadcasting. So if

(01:13:44):
it's working there, why isn't it working here? And if
they've got a law passed, how come we don't have
a law pasted anyway? Murray Olds from across the Tasman
After the News, which.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Mike Simon's been a generous supporter and ambassador of the
Children's charity Variety for over ten years. Really says no
when we need him. He's a treasure to us and
we will miss him enormously. It's very nice. Thank you, Catherine, Mike.
Big weekend coming go most it in the Mustang years.
Watching him being interviewed yesterday along with Ryan Wood. That
was a fun thing in Adelaide Lawson at Racing Bulls
and Burling and the GP. Have a great weekend, Pete,

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you have a great weekend as well. Twenty three to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
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Speaker 22 (01:14:34):
Murray Old, how are you good morning, Mike, Yeah, pretty
good after a busy week final the final week of
the parliamentary City year of camera.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
What arm would you be paying for a kilo of
salmon at the moment at your place?

Speaker 22 (01:14:47):
A kilo of salmon actually brought salmon the start of
this week. And it's about low forties, low forty dollars,
you know, like it depends where you go. You can
get it at the supermarkets so on for low forties
you probably pay a bit more at a fishmonger.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Right, So we're running seventy two to ninety so yeah,
I know, it's why, it's why all the New Zealanders
are coming to Australia.

Speaker 22 (01:15:10):
It's why seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
And have you seen the New Zealand dollar at the
moment's buying eighty seven Australian seints? I mean, what's going
on there?

Speaker 22 (01:15:20):
Made a leg of lamb, you'd be spending thirty five
to forty dollars or a leg of lamb over here?

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Is that New Zealand lamb or Australian lam because there's
a big difference, Murray, as you well know.

Speaker 22 (01:15:30):
No kidding. I once had a meal in Budapest one
night and I said to the way that these lamb
chops are magnificent, the best I think I've ever had.
He said, they come from New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I love it. The inflation number now this, now, see
explain this to me. How come? Well, how come you
haven't got that under control? What's going on?

Speaker 22 (01:15:49):
Not sure? One are the reasons being put forward is
perhaps the Reserve Bank, the central Bank over here, the
Reserve Bank at of Michelle Bullock as ease interest rates
three times this year, and maybe that's kind of created
a false impression that the economy is tracking well well.
This number landed three point eight percent, the headline the

(01:16:12):
headline number underlying inflation three point three but both well
above the Reserve Bank's target range of two to three percent.
I mean, it's embarrassing for the Prime Minister. Earlier this
year he said, no, we've turned a corner on inflation. Well, well,
no we haven't. And here's the thing over here, people
groaning under the weight of the enormous mortgages that are

(01:16:32):
paying off at ever higher interest rates. Rates aren't going
to come down next year, according to economists, and in
fact that there's more likelihood might be going to go
up on the back of this inflation figure, and we're
expecting a record spend this Christmas, billions of dollars to
be spent by people who haven't got a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
And well, as long as you're bullish about it now listen.
I don't know if you can answer me this question.
But I was watching Senate yesterday Barnaby. They were all
talking in ninety second blocks, so Barnaby had to resign
in a ninety second block. So he didn't say anything.
It wasn't like a valedictory, and I couldn't understand that.
And then I saw him walk out to the journalists
in the yard there and he had a conference and
I actually I haven't heard him talk a lot, but

(01:17:09):
he talked about basically the National Party had left him,
the world is moving on the Coalition. He would love
them to win. He doesn't know they will. But your independence,
your teals, all that sort of stuff. It's like asking
for the Broadsheets to come back. They're not coming back.
You either go with it or you get run over
by it. And I thought that's actually quite intelligent.

Speaker 22 (01:17:30):
Well, yeah, the only one who probably thinks so, I
mean Brannabie Joyce is. He's a skid mark on the
underpants of Australian politics. As far as a lot of
people are concerned, He's just a joke. I mean here
he is lying on his back in Canberra. Fest is
the Lord talking and it was phone with his feet
up on the planter box. This is the guy who's
twice been the Deputy Prime Minister and now he's trailing
his coat. Oh, I've got to leave. He just hates

(01:17:52):
David Little Proud who took his job the leader of
the Nationals Party. Have here and he's trailing his coat
to up into bed with Pauline Hanson. Well, I hope metaphorically.
You know she's down there the other night cooking him
steak in her office. Imagine cooking a waggy steak mic
on your sandwich press. I mean your staff would do
that if you're camping in the Australian outback, but not
in a parliamentary office. It's just ridiculous. The two of

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them deserve each other. Although having said that, she is
now riding a wave of popularity for one nation we've
never seen eighteen percent according to one Pole this week,
eighteen percent and the Coalition at twenty four. I mean,
what the world has turned on its head and Australian.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Point on that was Barno's entire point. He's talking about
people like Farage and he's talking about people like Hanson.
And if you look at eighteen percent, translate that into
seats plus the teals plus the independence, that's a massive
wedge of Australian political life, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (01:18:46):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:18:47):
It is? I mean is that going to translate at
the ballot box for paul In Hanson? I mean, the
beer is going to come out of her balloon very quickly,
as soon as any sort of scrutinies applied to it.
She's been around for thirty years and hasn't fired a shot.
She got some seats in the Queensland Parliament, the State
Parliament eleven seats I think back in the day twenty
years ago, but realistically she's got no seats in the

(01:19:08):
lower House. You got a bunch of body tenfoil hat
wearing halfwits in the Senate with her. I mean, you
wouldn't feed any of them if it was up to me,
I just but he kick them out. They're useless, absolutely useless.
This Narroo. It remains me seen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
This Nau thing that I've become increasingly interested by this
and our other Australian corresponds Steve Price, he said the
other day that Australia doesn't broadly care because it's a
long way away and as long as he's shuffling all
the crooks off there, then what's the matter. But I
mean the more I look into this, the not the
deal itself, but the two point five billion, they're not
going to tell you what's in it. And it's thirty

(01:19:43):
years long. And now we've got this guy, this president
of Nauru. He's taking money on the backhand and Albany's
knew before he signed the current deal. I mean, how
dodgy is this?

Speaker 22 (01:19:53):
Well, on the service, it's very dodgy. I mean, Price
is right, I mean out of side, out of mind.
People don't care. That's about how much money's going to Naharu.
Broadly speaking, the Greens have made a heck of a
heck of a meal of this in the Senate. I
mean basically they said the federal government has turned a
blind eye to corruption on an epics. I mean, who

(01:20:14):
would have thought it? Hey, Nahu it's I mean, Naharu
is the size of pooka Koei two and a half
billion dollars, you know, and expect nothing to go wrong.
Oh look, this truckload of money fell off the back
of an even bigger truck. Of course is going to
be corruption. Of course, it's going to be backhanders, but
out of side, out of mind, as Price he said.

(01:20:34):
And it's not as that the Greens are just flailing
around and pointing fingers in the dark Ostrak. I mean
it's the Financial Intelligence Agency over here. OSTRAK has been
reporting on this to the government. The Greens read some
of that into handsard in the Senate and basically, yes,
the government didn't know that this money was going to

(01:20:56):
people that perhaps weren't going to be as squeaky clean
as as everybody would have liked. And really, is it
any surprise that there's going to be a bit loved
along the way. Million dollars year, million dollars they're out
of two and a half billion. It's just small change.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
I love it all right, mate, you go well this weekend.
Appreciate it as always. Murray Olds out of Australia. This
was what they write this morning about Barnaby. I think
it's a very nice piece of writing. Apart from anything.
In the end, Barnaby Joyce didn't so much leave the
Nationals as quietly concede they already left him. He stood
up from the Opposition back benches in the House of
Representatives as though he'd wandered into his own political wake.

(01:21:32):
The guest of honor, the eulogist, and in a way
the body as well put us in at sixteen too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Going to text from Paul at home as doing the TV,
asked where the shut off tap for our water man
is in case they hit a pipe? Is that?

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
Yeah, that's pretty standard when you're putting a TV up.
I think you want to make sure that the waters off.
I thought, what hopefully the gas is off as well.
Be a shame of you, Be a shame of when
you do eventually get home after the weekend that there's
just like a crater in the ground. The house is
blown up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Television's beautifully presented, but it doesn't work due to the water.
There's a very good piece if you want to read it,
if you can be bothered, if you want to sort
of lift yourself up a little bit Australia the New Zealand,
Which is better? A British traveler's verdict. This was in
the Sidney Morning Herald yesterday. Guy called Mark Chipperfield. Isn't
it wonderfully British Chipperfield anyway? At the age of nineteen,

(01:22:30):
he's working at a kitchenhand and Brisbane hotel and his
fellow potwasher was a guy called Stewart, who is a Kiwi,
encouraged him to cross the ditch and visit New Zealand.
He spent six months here, the happiest, most adventure field
and convivial of his life. He says the two countries
could not be more different, which is probably not our
view of it. Is it anyway? He goes through cities

(01:22:51):
and nightlife. He gives Australia eight, New Zealand six, So
Australia wins landscapes and beaches. I think you can probably
guess who the winner there is. Australia eight news zeale
than ten accommodation. I was slightly surprised because he scored
us even at eight each out of ten. I would
argue the very best accommodation Australia is better than the
very best of accommodation here. History and culture, what do

(01:23:13):
you reckon? He scored on history and culture. Well, in
Australia he gave them a six. He gave us an eight.
Food and drink, now I had a a well, I
thought Australia would be better, and they are Australia eight,
New Zealand seven, So that's interesting. I would have argued
once again that Australian food and culture is significantly better
than New Zealand. But obviously he disagrees with me general experience,

(01:23:33):
which is what I always It's a vibe. Do you
feel good about it? He gave Australia seven, New Zealand nine.
Value for money. Now there's an interesting one, given what
Murray's just told you about the price of salmon and
a leg of lamb. Australia better value for money at
six out of ten, New Zealand five out of ten,
where we're too expensive. That's our problem. The only thing
helping us this is the PAESO. The final result we

(01:23:54):
nicck it. So from his point of view, New Zealand
at fifty three points ahead of Australia fifty one as
a travel destination. So officially, according to one person. We
are better. But it's in the Sydney Morning Herald. It's
much more detail in it and that's well worth reading
if you want to, as I say, lift yourself up
a bit ten away from nine.

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Wish them luck. I home roast to Brazil based been
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the country. So out of her tax raideth on yesterday,
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Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
No, forty six million turkeys will be eaten today in
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turkeys do you reckon it'll be in the US today?
That would have been a more fun thing to do,
wouldn't it. And I could have offered prizes and we
could have turned it into a whole thing, but anyway,
I gave it away forty six million. However, lenit. She's
from Love and Arms, which is a turkey sanctuary. She's

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wanting Americans this year to adopt rather than neat.

Speaker 17 (01:27:26):
They have been bred by humans to get so big
that their bodies just can't handle it. Their joints can't
keep up with the weight that their bodies have been
forced to put on, and then they don't get to
live their full lives. So a turkey at a sanctuary
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get the opportunity to see how incredible turkeys can be
when they're in a sanctuary. Much like our companion animals,
they're capable of love and affection, they have complex emotions,
and they're really great to hang out with.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
That's a big cell. I don't think they got complex
emotions at all. My guests this week? How good was
my guest this week? Somebody said to me, how long
you're here to turkey libs? And I said eight years?
And it's actually was it five or ten? I think
it was five and a farm, wasn't it? Or four
months according to her. But but I guessed about right.
So it's not a long life as long as it's

(01:28:21):
a good lie, mind you. That's like the French and
the ducks. They stuffed those ducks full of stating out
for the frog, guar and the peate and stuff like that,
you know, and you fought you're for that or no,
no I'm not. No, no, I'm not for five guar.
I'm not for pet and I'm not for turkey. I
like a simple I like a simple celler.

Speaker 22 (01:28:39):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Just a couple of leaves and a few tomorrow, that's me.
I'm a simple man, simple man with a little bit
of a spoodches. That's place I go on Monday Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
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