Full Show Podcast: 29 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar,
the art of performance news talks had been.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Welling and welcome today the Greens and their inability to
make a decision. A free speech looks like it's coming
to our university campus near you. Will Jordan back in
the All black, so we have a word with him.
Military academies are underway officially as of today. Mitch McCarn
and the States and Steve Prices are Australian for us
as well. PASKI, welcome to the week seven past six.
Pleasure to be able to start the week in fact
with the Warrior's dissertation has been far too long. A

(00:30):
good win, yes, I mean yes it was over the Tigers,
but surely we've loarned yet again in this competition and
its tightness, that the worst of teams, so the Titans,
can tip us up, and the best of teams, say,
the Panthers can be beaten. So the traditional look at
the ladder and work it out from there doesn't apply.
The best try was the last try to vas to
check half the field pretty much as a Lesni act.

(00:50):
The rest of the field flair and pace that keeps
the crowd coming back in At twenty five thousand full house.
Never ceases to amaze me how much crowd you can
get to a team that at times. Let's be honest,
this year's struggled a bit anyway, Five games left, ten points?
Is that enough for the eight?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Will we make it? I think so. Lessons from Friday
A one. You need to start well, and we did
fourteen a half time. This is a world away from
watching the other team pile points up early and we've
got to chase. Having said that, we had a lot
of ball, a lot of territory early and not a
lot of points to show for at four after thirty minutes,
Harris to Vita, Harris to Vedia, steady on, Harris to Vita.

(01:28):
Take it easy, Glynn only halfway through, for God's sake,
turn yourself down. Harris to Vita. Kicked a few, but
only when they are in front. Out wide, he was
no good. See Pompey cannot be a team's only kicker
at the sharp end of the season. Aside, that leads
four plus points unscored can be the difference, of course,
between winning and losing. Also two, we learn when the

(01:48):
heavyweights are on fires a Lesniak two of Vasischeck Blake,
We're a better sight. So all in all, we did
what we needed to do. We kept the season alive.
It's not where we should be, no, I get that,
but there is still hope and points and prospect and
as long as the mass balance is out, we can
enter the next five weekends with genuine belief that this
has Brace yourself, Glenn, here we go, build up to it.
This is our year.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
News of the world in ninety seconds, right, we.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Can start with the apology that was always going to
have to come. If you saw the games opening that
hit last supper thing was a bit ott.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
We we intend to celebrate community tolerance.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
That was his word yesterday, and if people.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
Have taken any offense, we are of course really sorry.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Then the war yet again runs the risk of blowing
out into the wider region that is Lebanon.

Speaker 7 (02:39):
That is where they Israeli say the weapon was fired
from just behind those hills. The Israelis telling us that
the weapon went up, went up in the air and
then it came straight down onto the football pitch.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Blinking yet again has been dragged in.

Speaker 8 (02:54):
We're determined to bring the gas a conflict to a close.
It's gone on for far too long, it's cost far
too many lives. We want to see Israelis, we want
to see Palestinians, we want to see Lebanese live free
from the threat of conflict in violence.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Then broke a couple of things. One the mirror of
Manchester still trying to hose down that attack at the
airport video.

Speaker 9 (03:14):
It's still a disturbing, disturbing image and it's right therefore
that the matter has been referred to the Independent Officer
Police Conduct, that an individual has been suspended.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And two the new Chancellors tomorrow going to reveal in
the Parliament what a fiscal miss she's been lived with
by the Tories.

Speaker 9 (03:29):
The inheritance from the previous government has been catastrophic. They
were spending money like there's no tomorrow and then they
called an election. They've run away and they're trying to
deny it.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
That was the Environment Secretary who they rolled out with
some rich flags. Then State Signe got a little bit
of bankst but just what it was Old Joe was
looking to do with the Supreme Court when you mentioned
reforming it last week.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Who've had liberal courts and all of US who am more.
Conservatives have complained about that.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
But never suggested that you clearly got the Constitution and
got the Supreme Court of the United States. And finally,
Brazil looking to tax the rich in their attempt to
tackle climate change. The g twenty was held in Brazil,
it was revealed, but they're looking to impose the two
percent tax on the one hundred richest families in the country.
If they did that, it would raise about four hundred

(04:16):
billion New Zealand dollars and that was a usually the
world in ninety breaking. In the last hour or so,
Prince Michael of Greece, Prince Philip's first cousins, died over
night at the age of eighty five, renowned writer and
a story and of course passed away in hospital in Athens,
our last remaining grandson of George. Buried in the Greek
capital Athens this coming Thursday, eleven past.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
Six, costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Speaking of South America, as I was with Brazil, Venezuela's
having a bit of a vote as we speak, Madeiro's
after a third term. The opposition has selected a guy
called Udatia Edmundo. He's seventy four years old, so it's
Edmudno versus Maduro, so we'll see how that unfolds. Maduro
has been running the place since twenty thirteen, since he
took our from Higo Charby, so I'm assuming some sort

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of indication in the next twenty four hours. Fourteen past
six David and d vents from daven Punt's management. Greg Smith,
Monday morning, Welcome to the week, morning, Mike us. June
inflation looked very good, didn't it.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
Hey, Investors loved those inflation numbers for sure. So down
Jones it was up over six hundred and fifty points
S and P five hundred nas. They're both up over
one percent. So what kind of ves is excited? Well,
is this personal consumption expects price index that was up
just zero point one percent on the month in June.
Headline basis two point five percent higher than a year ago,
so that was down on May's two point six percent

(05:37):
core inflation. That was alignment for expectations at both the
monthly and your annual basis. Goods prices they were down,
services up slightly. So it's really important metric. As we've
talked about before, it's the feeds preferred gauge of inflation,
and the Princes really doesn't disrupt the view that we're
going to get that first rate cut in September. Inflation's
getting close to the two percent targets. We've got the

(05:58):
first meeting this week. They're not expected to do anything
that they'll be interested as always and what they say,
they'll also be encouraged. Expectations around inflation continued to four
MIC so the July University of Michigan serve they had
inflation on a one year view at two point nine percent.
That's the lowest since December twenty twenty. It is having
an impact on consumer conference. It's also the eight month

(06:19):
low and part of the reason perhaps is that consumeers
are spect pulling back on their saving a little bit
to spend. But overall, pictures one of resilience. We had
that strong GDP forrint last week as well, so that's
good news and also good news for older economies stocks
they MIC. You seen this rotation continue to play at
a bit. The mag seven we're on fire early and year,
but that sort of dissipated a little bit, so rotation occurring.

(06:42):
Dow has been doing better. The Russell two thousand, that's
a small cap index. That's up ten percent of the
past three weeks nasdeck over the same period as seven
percent lower, So quite a big difference stand by for
the soft economic landing.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, indeed, and what have we got? Post it notes
and toothpaste?

Speaker 10 (07:00):
That's right, so let's talk post it notes versus three
m So that led the dow high. They actually had
the best and more than half a century. They're up
twenty two percent following their innings result. Now it's not
just post it notes that they do, right. They do
a bunch of other staff healthcare, con shemer, goods, work safety,
So it seems a bit of an economic bell weather.
Revenue six point three billion dollars, it's about four in

(07:22):
a million more than mark was expected. Need income that
doubled to one point one four billion. They raised guidance,
so they like that. There was some positive comments around
the CEO about reinvigorating the product line for a company
that's been around for since nineteen oh two. Another old
economy doing stopped doing Welsh you mentioned was Colgate Palmolive,
though she is about three percent record high after the results.

(07:44):
Sales up five percent, need income seven and thirty one million.
That was five hundred million higher than a year ago.
Volumes on the up. They raised guidance. One of the
big businesses they have MICA's pet Food, so we're all
the more Americans at least are spending more on their pets.
It seems cost of living pressures that's doing pretty well.
Has been a bit of a switch to wet from

(08:04):
dry food and yes, glistening with the toothpaste outlook there
mic so they're still a global leader there. They've actually
got market share of just under forty two percent.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's a lot of share, it's a lot of teeth.
So consumer confidence so it's I mean, is this some
light at the end of the tunnel. We've seen a.

Speaker 10 (08:21):
Little bit light at the end of the tunnel, I
think so. So this is the A and Z Roy
Morgan Consumer Conference Index that was up five points in
July a seven point nine. So it's still very low
in terms of conference but as the report suggestion, things
are getting a little brighter. Does put the crawback a
little bit of that fall for March, April and whenever
was talking about the recession improving expectations rather than about

(08:42):
the here and now. So the Future Conditions Index that
was up nine points. Perceptions around the economic outlook lifted.
Current conditions index actually was lower. Perceptions of current poinancial
financial situation rebounded four points, still negative eighteen percent, but
in the twenty percent expect be bit off this time
next year.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
That was interesting.

Speaker 10 (09:02):
Still, is it a good time to buy a major
household on it? No, retailers won't be popping the champagne
corkse here this year, and net thirty percent think it's
a bad time. But yeah, house price inflation that dropped
a four percent to two point four percent, so yeah,
the consumer is still very cautious. The good news mic
around here, which sort of dovetails what we've been talking

(09:23):
about earlier, was inflation expectations on the two year outlook
fell from four point two percent to three point seven
So that's the lowest since September twenty twenty, and it's high.
Obviously we're inflation. Is that currently with an important thing
that is falling and that's what the aben Z looks at,
And yeah, obviously it's overall I suppose it shows YEA,
we're still very cautious. Conference is still very low, but
there is some light perhaps at the end of the

(09:45):
tunnel with it aben Z rate cut before the end
of the year to lift the mood.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
All right, what are the numbers?

Speaker 10 (09:51):
So Darres mentioned was up one point six percent some
p f I've uned up one point one percent, Naan's
deck up one percent. Stocks fifty in Europe at one
point one percent, foot see up one point two percent.
Net we spent had a great actually up seven percent there,
Nickel down half percent in Japan A six two hundred
up point eight percent, seven nine two one NZ fifty
we were down point four percent, twelve three four nine.

(10:13):
Oil markets upper dollar ten seventy seven spots, sixteen for
crude gold up twenty two bucks. It's good news their
precious medals us dollar versus the Kiwi. We're Philly flat
fifty eight point nine eight dollars eighty nine point nine.
That was point one percent lower as it was against
sterling forty five point eight. We heard my quite a
bit going on with the with the Bank of England,

(10:33):
got the Bank of Japan euro GDP inflation numbers. They've
got non farm payrolls, a few big ms apporting McDonald's
met up MasterCards, a couple of Big A's as well.
Apple and Amazon. We've got business confidence here. I've also
got building permits and the Ryman AGM.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Fantastic go well ketchups in Greg Smith Debon funds management
at the movies Dead Pull and Wolverine. That's the same thing.
It's just the one movie absolutely smashed box office records
to hundred and five million. That was the domestic market
in America. And I'll give you the comparison to the
international market in the moment highest ab of twenty twenty four,
highest R rated film debut ever. So they thought one

(11:11):
sixty to one eighty came in at two five internationally
two thirty three, so a global hall of four thirty
eight just for the weekend. But if you look at
the Americ size of the American market, two thirty three
for two to five, so the international market, Billy Barey
touches the science. Anyway, it's a hit and they'll be happy.
More movie news for you. Shortly six twenty one, it

(11:32):
was used dog.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
ZB the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Text Through the Truth of the Pruer of Truth Mike
on Colgate New Zealand is heading to Kansas City to
take a position SBP Marketing of the hills pitfit business
see New Zealand is doing well all over the world.
The barber endorsed Harris. I'm sure you're aware of that
very staged phone call. If you saw that, that was
embarrassing some what they're calling bombshell pole on Carmel lamentum.

(12:03):
That's the other word that've invented over the weekend, which
I quite like, Karma lamentum. So US voters who think
Karmela is to blame for Biden's health cover up, sixty
eight percent think there's a great deal to blame with her,
seventeen percent somewhat to blame, seven percent a little bit
to blame, four percent not at all, and four percent
aren't sure. So if you add sixty eight and seventeen

(12:24):
and seven, that's a tremendous number of people. This is
you govern the times of London, by the way, that's
a tremendous number of people who think she is directly
involved in the cover up of Joe Biden. As regards
the States, we've been digging over the weekend, there's some
excellent polling out over the weekend and the what they
call the swing states, and I'll have those for you
shortly six, twenty five.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Trending now with Chemist Wars, great savings every day.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Mitch McCann's all over it from the States for us shortly.
How about the Marvel news over the weekend. I totally
had more movie news. I've got more movie news for you.
Off the back of Deadpool and Wolverine Comic Con San Diego,
they've announced the new villain to carry the Avengers films
through until twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 11 (13:05):
As proof of the unimaginable possibilities in the Marvel multi universe,
we give you the one person who could play Victor
von Jo.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
That's pretty good as far as unveils go. Robert Downey Jr.
Took off his mask, so he's going to come back
because you're already dead. Of course, he died as Iron Man,
so but you can come back to life and the
Marvel world, you can come back to life. And he's
going to play Doctor Doom New Mass.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Same times.

Speaker 11 (13:54):
I'll tell you I like playing complicated characters.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I lover her of it. Johnny Junior. I think Letterman
did him, almost certain Letterman did him, and he came
across as deeply, deeply eclectic. I think he lives in
Malibu from memory, but he had a lot of acreage
in Malibu, high above the high above the ocean there
where he runs a lot of unusual animals. He's almost
got a zoo in that particular part of the world. Anyway,
other matters, they've done a report into Auckland. Turns out,

(14:22):
and I'm going to there's a theory versus reality thing
going on here. So they released some numbers over the
weekend into the world of Hospo. HOSPO will tell you
it is miserable to beat the band, that no one
can make a living, and yet the numbers tell a
completely different story. How do we explain that? Then we
come to Auckland, They'll tell you Auckland's completely buggered. I'll

(14:43):
tell you if Auckland's completely buggered, Yet the numbers tell
the different story.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic asking
breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real estate differently since
nineteen seventy three, news togsad be.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Other polling the This morning Steve Price and a couple
of ours for us the coalition now two party preferred
as surged ahead of the government. So this whole discussion
that there's a possibility of an early election. I assume
it's out the door, because there's nowhere in the world
that albaneze you can go to the people of Australia
with these sort of numbers anyway, Coalition at fifty one
point five versus the Labor Party's forty eight point five.
So well, we'll catch up with Stephen a couple of ours.

(15:20):
Much mccannon the state shortly as well, twenty three to seven,
so we get a five year snapshot of Auckland's economic situation. Today,
the region grew ten percent, which matched the national adverse.
I suppose that's good. One hundred and forty three billion
dollars of GDP was generated last year, so that's the
fastest in the country. Auckland Unlimited Director of Economic Development

(15:40):
Pam foards with us on all of this. Pam, very
good morning to you morning Mike. Does this take in
last year, which was a recession or sort of or
not really?

Speaker 12 (15:49):
Well, a lot of the data is to the March
twenty three year, so we're expecting that, you know, what
we've seen in the last few months will be quite different.
That's why the monitor has quite a lot of narrative
that accounts for what's been happening since that time.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, so when we talk about ten percent growth one
hundred and forty three billion dollars, do we have direct
comparisons to other areas of the country as well?

Speaker 12 (16:10):
Well, we know that we've compared that to the rest
of New Zealand, and so overall Auckland was on part
which was quite unusual given the extended lockdowns and what
we had, you know, kind of imagined that Auckland would
have done worse than the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Does that surprise you in that sense, because the commentary
around Auckland is not that positive, is it.

Speaker 12 (16:30):
No, you're right, it didn't surprise me so much because
we know that the Auckland economy is so diversified, and
just through our scale, the size of the population, the
fact that we rely on high value services, so a
lot of technology firms, media information, we were still producing
international television production and movies, and people who are selling

(16:53):
services as in software as a service, all those sorts
of things we're still able to trade. Diversification of Auckland's
economy that makes it more resilient compared to the rest
of the country.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
What you'll read overall, because when you say we did
better than the rest of the country, it's important to
remember what the rest of the country did. So when
you say ten percent over five years, that's an average
of two percent a year, which is not actually that
good of growth, is it.

Speaker 12 (17:17):
Well, no, not at all, But the rest of the
world was suffering as well through that COVID you know,
the impact on supply chains and closed borders and the like.
So no, it wasn't that great, and we're in a
very challenging part of the cycle, as we all know.
It was good to hear a bit earlier that there's
life at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yes, it was exactly, and so that's my next question.
Suddenly I've got fascinated in this because the restaurant or
the hospow Association have been telling us for years now
how miserable it all is. And yet when you look
at the actual numbers they've put out, there's growth, and
there's five percent growth in the year. And you take
that any day of the week, wouldn't you.

Speaker 12 (17:55):
Well, that's pretty good. And I did hear from them
last week that there are pockets of growth in some
places are doing well. I guess it's is it natural
that we focus on the poor performing areas or some
of the dramatic changes. So, you know, I think it
is that cycle that we're in and the next twelve
eighteen months could be really tough, but opportunities emerge. So

(18:19):
I think Auckland and News we're in a good place.
You know, we still remain attractive for talent and visitors
and investors.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It's encouraging you do your positive findings. Positive finding number
three was the region's economy grew faster. Is that that
how much of immigration is to play there? In other words,
people stay where they land.

Speaker 12 (18:37):
Yeah, it has quite a huge implication. So when people
stay here and land, they go into companies, all businesses,
so they're earning salaries and wages. They are needing houses,
are needing transport, so immigration plays a huge part.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And then positive finding number two, the average Aalkland earned
eighty one four hundred dollars. The reality is and that
was fourteen point eight percent greater than the average across
the rest of the country. But the fact is in
a big city, you need to earn the big money
because it's expensive to live in the big city, isn't
it well?

Speaker 12 (19:07):
Correct? But you also have the bigger companies, you have
the higher value services, so they tend to pay higher wages,
and certainly you do need that.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And what would you information tell or say or use
by way of phrase around Auckland. It's growing, it's booming,
it's productive, it's healthy, it's well.

Speaker 12 (19:31):
I think it's having a challenging time right now, but
I'm incredibly optimistic the population is going to continue to grow.
We've got some exciting things coming on with city rail
Link opening in twenty twenty six. I was down in
one of those stations last weekend, very very exciting things
like the international convention centers coming on stream end of
next year. So look, I think around twenty seven twenty

(19:52):
eight the city will be back on track and doing
fantastic good stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm nice to talk to you, appreciate it very much.
Pam who was excuse me with Auckland Unlimited, Director of
Economic Development eighteen minutes away from seven past get Claibert
came sixth, by the way, And might I just say
for Auckland, the weather, it's virtually like palm springs at
the mind of its most extraordinary weekend. It was warm
when I left the country. Yesterday it was twenty degrees

(20:19):
twenty degrees and it was clear blue sky and Sunschina.
Both Saturday and Sunday were astonishing. I told you Friday
before I left, watch out for the Lawyers, Warner Brothers Discovery.
This is the NBA. I don't know how many people
are actually interested in this, but anyway, they had they
had this clause. The NBA went to Amazon. They said,
we'll give you the games along with Disney and NBC,

(20:42):
at which point Warner Brothers, who had a match it clause.
In other words, if you go to somebody who go
to some other provider, they can then match it to
stay in the competition. So Warner Brothers said, yep, we'll
match it, to which the NBA said, tough luck. We're
still going with Amazon. And I said Friday, watch for
the lawyers, and by Saturday day they're off to court.

(21:02):
Seventeen to two. The Mike Costing Breakfast Mike armatruck Driver.
Things are slowly starting to pick up a traffic at
the quarries are starting to pick up again after a
three month low. That's encouraging to hear, Mike. I'd use
SPQR reference as a reference for hospital. Very well known
Auckland restaurant's gone into liquidation. There's a lot more to
do with mismanagement rather than a downturn of spending, Mike,

(21:23):
five percent growth with twenty percent increased cost doesn't equal
a good place, Alan, What I'm trying to say, and
I'll give you the complete numbers in just a couple
of moments, is that everyone shutting up shop, No one's
at a cafe, and it's misery and it simply isn't true.
So more shortly fourteen to.

Speaker 13 (21:39):
Two international correspondence with endsit Eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business right.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Makes McCanns whether how are you mate? I'm good, Mike,
how are you very well? Indeed, so they seem to
Obama came to the party eventually over the weekend, of course,
and they got a couple of hundred million dollars. So
so far, so good for Harris.

Speaker 14 (21:58):
Yeah, it's looking very good for Kamala Harris. Like it's
hard to believe it was only seven days ago that
Joe Biden dropped out of the race. Her campaign seed
this morning they've now raised two hundred million US dollars,
two thirds of that money is from first time donors,
and one hundred and seventy thousand new volunteers have signed
up to assist the campaign. The focus for Kamala Harris
now is who is she going to pick as her

(22:19):
vice presidential candidate?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Does it matter? I mean in the sense will people go,
oh my god, I wasn't going to vote for Harris,
But no I am because I've got Whitmeral winning any
of the others. I think where it matters, Mike, is
it might be someone from one of these swing states
that might about to put the Democrats over the.

Speaker 14 (22:35):
Top, somewhere like Pennsylvania. One of the people looked at
there is the governor Josh Shapiro. He is incredibly popular,
he's a former lawyer, and he's one of the top
three people talked about. So if they can win Pennsylvania,
that will help the Democrat Democrats out A lot have we.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Put to bed. And this is where Obama comes in.
The people who wanted some sort of open contest, is
that now gone, that's no longer going to be will
be a problem at the convention.

Speaker 14 (23:02):
I thought what we first saw wh Kamala Harris came
out last weekend was a couple of people who were
rumored to be wanting to take her on, so to
bide their time to see if there was an opening.
I think that opening has closed now. The Obamas, the Pelosis,
the Shumers of the world, Joe Biden, they are all
behind Harris. So I think if anyone trying to take
her on it would be seen as a spoiler. And

(23:23):
the Democrats are also trying to get this done before
the convention. They're going to have a virtual role call
in the coming weeks where they're going to try and
lock this in before the convention.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Okay, And then you come to Trump in the business
and dem and needing to vote again. I think he's
explained himself, doesn't I mean he didn't literally mean you're
never going to vote again, did he? No, this is
what he said.

Speaker 14 (23:41):
Well, Trump said on Friday at a rally, you've got
to get out and vote. In four years, you don't
have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good.
You're not going to have to vote now. Democrats have
been flapping their arms claiming that this means that Donald
Trump wants to take over like a dictator. He's not
going to allow future elections but Republicans have come out
and see that's ridiculous. When he said he wants it fixed,

(24:03):
he means the country being repaired, not fixed for a
certain outcome, exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Give us quick update on the wildfire in California. How big,
how bad? This is massive.

Speaker 14 (24:11):
It's a fire in the city of Chico, northern California,
seven hours drive north of Los Angeles. It's burnt three
hundred and fifty thousand hectares. It's growing at a size
of twenty square kilometers every hour, the largest fire in
California this year, the seventh largest in history. Earlier this week,
a forty two year old man was arrested suspected of
starting the fire by rolling a burning car into a gully.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Jeez, is it a burning hot summer there in general?
I mean, is that the vibe in America at the moment?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
It is.

Speaker 14 (24:41):
It's about thirty thirty two degrees here in New York today,
but we've been getting up to thirty eight, so I mean,
it is a concrete jungle. It is bloody hot, but
we are expecting it to probably be a bit hotter
in the coming weeks as well.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
All right, mate, go well, we'll catch up Wednesday. Appreciate
it very much, much of a cownd. The reason I'm
asking you that is, of course, in most of Europe
at the moment, it's doesn't seem that I was watching
the Belgian Grand Prix over the weekend, spent most of
the weekend reigning. Polling quickly states in the so called
swing states that Mitch was talking about. And this is
post the high drama of the last week or so.
Pennsylvania Fox put a pole out on Saturday our time,

(25:15):
Trump forty nine Harris forty nine. Interesting immersion College poll
taking two days after Biden quit Trump forty eight Harris
forty six. So that's Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. Fox did it fifty
to forty nine to Trump. The Emerson College poll forty
seven apiece, five percent undecided, Michigan forty nine apiece, Georgia

(25:38):
forty eight, forty six Trump, Arizona. We've got the Merson
College polling since Biden quipped forty nine forty four Trump.
That'll be his North Carolina forty six, forty three Trump.
And then I can give you the national poles, but
I don't really believe in the national poles. So it
gives you some sort of indication things haven't moved, and
where they have moved it is still super tight.

Speaker 15 (26:00):
Ten to seven the mic hostle breakfasts where the Jaguar
use to v.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
I might been traveling around a bit recently. What I'm
seeing is the smaller local hospital businesses are doing okay
destination sites and the CBDs are struggling people staying closer
to home. I never agree with you. We're at the
pub on Saturday night and to say it was booming
is not true. But it was very busy, It had
a good buzz about it, and there were no shortage
of people spending money. By the way, just before we
leed Karmela Karmel Lamentum is what they're calling a Karmel lamentum.

(26:29):
Very good piece out of the New York Times and
I think reprinted in the Sydney Morning Herald. So depending
where you were subscribed to, you might want to read this.
With the surge of support for Harris and the candidacy,
you can sense an effort to overcome divisions in the party,
to reassert the establishment's anti Trump consensus, to recover the
unity of twenty twenty. It means squelching any chance of

(26:50):
an intra democratic conflict or a convention fight, while delivering
hype from every corner. What the Carmel lamentum effor it
shares with that of two one thousand and eight phenomenon
is one of Barack Obama's favorite words, audacity, but not
the audacity of hope this time so much as the
audacity of desperation. It's a very good read. Carmel momentum

(27:12):
is masking the desperation of the Democrats. Look that up
five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
All the ins and the outs, it's the biz with
business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Right hospital, let's get into it. Restaurant Association, what have
you believe? It's miserable, and yet we've got sales of
fifteen point seven billion, that's to March this year, annual
growth of five point eight percent. Can't argue with that
vast majority that came in Auckland six point two billion,
which is growth of seven point two percent. Catering industry
is absolutely booming. Catering's up nineteen zero point four percent. Regionally,

(27:50):
there's only three areas down in sales, Taranaki, Wellington and Northland.
Gisbon though largest growth year on year twenty point six.
That's masked a little bit by the flow and the
recovery and all that sort of stuff. So we get
that next best regions for growth, all driven by a
continuing return of the international visitors. So Queenstown up fifteen
plus percent, West Coast up fourteen percent, kai Kura up

(28:11):
fourteen percent, Canterbury up nine, Marlborough eight and a half,
Hawks Bay eight and a half. There's over one hundred
and forty five thousand people who work in hospo. That's
an increase of seven point three percent. You can't you
can't mask these numbers. There are more people working, there
are more people eating, there are more people spending. These

(28:31):
are reasonable numbers. Cafe and restaurant sector. They hire hires
at an eighty one thousand increase of five point nine percent.
Queenstown hired the most. That's an increase of twenty eight
point six percent. That's just over nineteen and a half
thousand hospoit outlets around the country. That number stayed basically
the same, So I suppose that's where there's twenty seven

(28:52):
new ones. That's a net gain. By the way, I mean,
there's hospow places opening and closing every five minutes, but
a net gain of twenty seven. So when you look
at the numbers, you've got to delve into it. Were
they in the wrong area of town. Were they in
the wrong town, Did they serve the wrong food with
the service crap, with the price is too high? Did
they mismanage their business as opposed to just the generic

(29:14):
Oh well, it's hospo. So things aren't going well. When
you look at those numbers, you simply can't.

Speaker 16 (29:19):
Argue with them.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Now, Chloe Swarbrick, why wouldn't you want to spend your
whole weekend sitting on a Maria Darlene Tarner And what's
the outcome of all of that? Nothing? What did they
do about Darlene Tanner over the weekend? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (29:34):
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Speaker 2 (29:46):
Bly seven past seven. So the Greens got together over
the weekend to sort the Darling Tanner shambles and ended
up not sorting the Darling Tanner shambles. The leadership's written
to miss Tarner and given a twenty one days to resign.
Go leader Chloe Swarbricks with us. Good morning to you,
very well, thank you to deal with the Pacific thing.
Have you got some senior members walking out? And if
they did, how many and why.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
So?

Speaker 6 (30:09):
As you may have seen in the report, there were
three members. And look, as far as I'm concerned, no
one is beyond approach. So when somebody makes accusations like this,
I want to take time to sit with them. Obviously,
it's a pretty charged atmosphere and people have come from
a place of upset. And when people feel hurt, I
tend to take with you that we should take that seriously.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
And what have they heard about?

Speaker 6 (30:32):
They feel hurt about their views and their perspective on
how things have been handled. Once again, you know, as
particularly I've said throughout this time when some have made
accusations or upheld there or said to their views with
regard to how things have been dealt with. With regard
to Darlene Tanna, I've been really clear that obviously I
am the parkier in the room, and the honorable Mardam

(30:54):
and Davidson is literally on cancer leave, but she has
been really actively involved through this process. So we'll take
time today's stats and we'll work through it and look
to the point that I'd make here, Mike, democracy can
be messy. It means that people have different opinions, and
the Greens are actually really proud of halving space for
those different opinions so that we can work through those

(31:15):
different perspectives to come to more enduring, stronger and sustainable decisions.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Is it a bit more messy given it to the
Greens than anyone else would deal with it?

Speaker 6 (31:24):
Well, I mean you might think but a second that
this is this growing pains. This is actually part of
the call to action that I put out to the
party membership and my speech on Saturday. Right, Look, we
have a long, proud history in the last thirty years
of campaigning for ecological and economic justice, but all of
that stuff means nothing if we cannot put it into practice,

(31:46):
if we are left clinging to our mountains of evidence,
feeling and knowing that we were right when the last
three is cut down. That's why I've said to the
Greens that it is our job to actually reach out
to communities and to gain the trust of the people
who we believe the life will bestibly improved by our policies.
Because I genuinely believe that most New Zealanders to actually
care for each other in the planet that we live on.

Speaker 17 (32:07):
But obviously we've got looks to do.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
What's your vibe on the numbers when because she's not resigning,
So in twenty one days when you have you another meeking,
do you have the numbers to enact the walker jumping
or not?

Speaker 6 (32:17):
So just I think it's really important to care things up,
especially with the way that you frame things about that
letter for myself and Madam miss So there are two
separate processes that are happening at the same time. In
order to use the electoral integrity colloquially known as the
party hopping or walker dumping legislation, you actually do need
to under legislation right to the member of Parliament that

(32:37):
you believe is distorting proportionality and provide them with twenty
one working days to respond. So that's twenty one working days.
Obviously weekends not included in that. That is a pretty
on part time frame for what we've called and given
the notice for our special General Meeting.

Speaker 17 (32:54):
For our members. So we will be and our members
will be.

Speaker 6 (32:58):
Going out and talking to their branches and works and
provinces in that time, but they will also have hopefully
that response from Darling Tana to consider.

Speaker 17 (33:05):
Well, and the evidence at that is.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
See she's not responding having said that, so you don't
have a vibe. I mean, I'm not holding you too.
I'm just saying, did you get a sense that it
will be enacted.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
Or people are pretty frustrated? My people are pretty frustrated.
But as I think I've discussed with you in the
past on the show and with many reporters and commentations,
this is obviously something that we have a vexsistory with
and we've got to reconcile that. And I think that's
the point of why we're in the Greens and the
Greens we do like to talk through issues and we
like to genuinely consider each other's opinions. That's the point

(33:36):
of democracy. We very loudly and proudly uphold that into
anal democracy, it's not just empty words.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
More importantly for me, given you didn't release the whole
report and there's other investigations going on, what's your view
of Darling Tana. Did she abuse migrants?

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Something really clear, as has Madama and our caucus unanimously
that we do not believe that she's to be a
member of Parliament, and as.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Rele's a migrant abuser.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
I don't think that it is helpful for me to
weigh in in such a way which could potentially open
legal cases or otherwise. The point of that report was
to ascertain what Darling Tanna knew and when, and obviously
the subject of those allegations were those which include the
likes of migrant exploitation. And as I made the point
in my media stand up yesterday, we've also heard from

(34:25):
some of those workers who want me to make the
point really clearly in the public domain that one of
them is still owed at least thirty six thousand dollars
from an ar case that has been concluded, which has
not been paid back. So I want to send to
the real victims here. And we've never been confronted with
a situation like this. So we are working through a
process to make sure that we hold our values and

(34:47):
have a sustainable and enduring conclusion and solution which we
can rightfully defend because we know that natural justice was upheld.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
All right, appreciate time very much. Chloe Sawbrick, the co
leader of the Green Party, is twelve and it's past
seven Oscar. Mike, your hospitality figures are right, but you
failed to mention their bottom line profitability, which is still
well down. Max. I didn't mention the bottom line profitability
because we don't have it. No one knows what the
profitability of a business says. I take your point. Interesting
commentary on HOSPO where one of those responsible for the
catering boom nineteen percent up. We now prefer to stay

(35:16):
at home, have a function catered. It's easy, not too noisy,
and safe.

Speaker 18 (35:21):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
My feeling is that the hospital spend has changed to
more informal, more sociable craft brewery as opposed to a
flash restaurant. Reasonable point, Mike. Wednesday night, my wife took
me up for a birthday dinner downtown Mount Monganui. Walked
into a nice Italian at five thirty hours for a table,
no reservation. It was packed, people spending having a ball.
It's interesting insight, isn't it? Thirteen past Sevenski, now it's

(35:42):
still to come on the program free speech as coming
to a university near you. But on the broad done
economic situation that we have confidence consumer confidence, it bounces
back to a degree in July. This is the a
and z Roy Morgan Survey Improving expectations. We're up five points.
Future conditions is up nine points, still only at ninety five.
Anything above one hundred's expansionary, ninety five's contraction, so it

(36:04):
still ain't great, but it's better than what it was.
Perceptions of the current personal financial situation. You're feeling good. Well,
it's up four to minus eighteen, a net twenty percent,
which isn't many expect to be better off in a
year's time. That's up twelve. As regards the economic outlook
generally in twelve months, that's up seven. But it's still
at minus thirty two. So we're still in the doldrums,

(36:26):
but we think things could get better. Right to the
Universities in a moment thirteen past.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
The Mike Costle breakfast.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yes, small selection of what you knew was going to
come in Morning might Chloe Swallbrick, what a waste of
be a time that was? I tend to agree. I'm
bordering on banning her from the program morning might. Let
me complete Chloe Swawbrick's statement. Democracy is messy, so let
the Green Party help prove it with our inn competence. Mike,
this is a shambles from the Greens claiming a democracy
where they're just fluffing around and wasting everybody's time and money.

(36:58):
Will anyone disagree with it? And as Glenn quite rightly
points out, twenty one working days? What's with twenty one
working days? Working days are divisible by five or four
if you're at Guardian Perpetual, not by seven. So weird
does that? I mean, that's not Chloege's fault. That's whoever
wrote the law's fault. Anyway, let me come back to
that change is coming to a campus near you. This
could be good news. After implementing a free speech and

(37:20):
academic freedom policy earlier this year at a Tiger university,
more looking to follow suit. Apparently, Free Speech Union has
been engaged with the major universities and the majority of
the universities around the country. The chief executive, Jonathan aliens
with us on this. Jonathan, very good morning to you,
Good morning to now. This is a result of the
new government, right, so they're wanting people to put a
free speech So you're going around, what's the vibe you're

(37:41):
getting off campus?

Speaker 19 (37:43):
That's not exactly right. Actually, like a lot of universities,
most of the Universe actually were already working on free
speech policies of some kind. They has got their am
to do really around the Coalition Agreement statement, and what
they're doing now is trying to get out ahead of
the government agreement requirements. And so as we've been going
around for the most part, actually a lot of universities

(38:07):
feel a bit annoyed really as a government would have
the audacity to try and require them to defend free
speech on their campuses. They insist there's no problem at
all and there's no requirement for this. If that were
the case, I would suggest there would be no problem
with requiring it. And the FREEFIDG Union has worked on
this issue for over three years now and we're really
concerned about the same for free speech and academic freedom

(38:29):
across the university sector, all eight universities. But there are
some universities in particular that seem to be really dragging
the chain. And of course a Victoria University earlier this
year gave a pretty poor showing for the defensive free
speech and Massive University is another that kind of consistently
seems to let the team down.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Which is why I was going to ask you, is
everyone on the same page on free speech or it's
your interpretation of what free speech might be.

Speaker 19 (38:53):
Well, no one ever says they don't like free speech.
But of course there's that famous nome Chompsky quote Stalin
or in favor of free speech. You know, so was
Gebels as long as there was speech they agreed with.
And unfortunately our vice chancellor around the country they seem
to have a similar interpretation, and so they say, of
course free speech matters, but not people who are sharing

(39:14):
disinformation and cert whatever definition you want of that. And
they're not those that are you know, even VIC has
in its draft principles those who reduce the manna of someone.
You know, it's vague stuff like that. What does that
even mean?

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Are we going to get there?

Speaker 19 (39:28):
Well, if a free speech union has anything to say
about it, we will look international examples in Germany and
in Quebec, and up until recently in the UK gave
us a bit of a pass forward. It's a bumpy
one and so we're going to continue to work with
government and with the vice chancellors. Our ideal solution would
be that universities would identify the fact that without free
speech they actually have no purpose in existing free speech

(39:52):
is intrinsic in the idea of education and research and
the development of knowledge. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that they
are actually going to form themselves and we will meet
extra influence. And by that I mean the government coming
in and putting in some requirements in order to remain
eligible for their funding.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Good stuff, Jonathan, go well with it, Jonathanaling, who's the
Free Speech Union chief executive and having just threatened to
ban Chloe from the program. Of course I could probably
learn a lesson at up free Speech. Good n't I.

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five seven twenty four. Nicely timed day, So how these
things work? You send out the message on a Friday
and hope the wider world doesn't notice. Andrew Costa, probably

(41:24):
the most talked about police commissioner of not of all time,
certainly of recent times, will not serve a second term.
Not many will miss him. He seemed in our dealings,
for what it's worth over the year, pretty decent sort
of bloke. But he wasn't a bloke for the times.
The head's up was the fact he was a cinder,
a dunpeck, and that was always trouble. The last government's
world view on all sorts of things have turned out

(41:45):
to be catastrophic, of course, for this country in crime
is as bad as any. The cost of appointment was
a reflection of the adun Kumbaya approach to life, where
bad buggers weren't really bad, just misunderstood, and if you
hug them long enough and sent them home with a bracelet,
they would eventually see the error of their ways. It
all turned to shite, of course, and Costa seemed to
embrace the approach, despite the fact that these statistics were undeniable.

(42:05):
As the country went to rack and ruin. They kept
insisting letting people out of prison early, or deliberately lowering
the prison muster, or allowing judges to hand out god
knows how big a discount was all good stuff that
would eventually prove its worth. Costa must have had a
hell of a job telling his staff that this was
all good news because I tell you something but nothing
His staff were telling us it was hell and it
wasn't working. By the end, even Labour conceded it was

(42:28):
a mess and a new government with a new approach
were going to make major change. We expected part of
that change to start at the top, of course, but
being the sort of a point that it is a minister,
I e. Mark Mitchell couldn't sack him, so we had
to wait. On Friday, we got to see how that
particular conversation had played out behind closed doors. And the
cost of years are about to come to an end,

(42:49):
as I say, A decent enough bloke. So I don't
want to be mean about it all, but let's be honest.
How long is the queue of those who think he's
been a success asking you'll show your choice? Mind? Like, yeah,
I tend to think that. Actually, older, I get a
little more dictatorial in my view of them. Your show
your choice. I think that'll be my argument when somebody
raises it. Do you really think it's good to Ben

(43:09):
Chloe Mike, I go, No, my show my choice. The
Green Party just needs to go back to grassroots advocating
for the environment. I've said that for years, but they're
not going to. Mike. When you discuss Tana, keep reiterating
how much he's cost the text way, Why would I
do that? I mean, you and I understand that, but
do you think you think the Greens are remotely bothered
by any of that? For goodness sake, It's just look,

(43:30):
I had just the most delightful weekend and a whole
lot of sort of esoteric slash profound conversations we had
at my house about a variety of matters.

Speaker 20 (43:41):
Did you get a case of something good?

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Nope? No, no, never drunk less of life by the way, Glenn,
that could have something to do with it. Actually, anyway,
where was I? Yes, conversations at our house and you know,
about the future of life and times and all that
sort of stuff. And I bounced in here today feeling
full of the joys of life, had a fabulous sleep.
I'm living the dream. Everything's going my way. I've never

(44:05):
been happier with my circumstances. I texted my wife as
such this morning as I left the house in my
daily I Love you text. Anyway, on comes Chloe, and
just a big cloud of why do I need to
deal with this crap comes across me, and I'm thinking,
why do I need to deal with this crap? I mean,
what's the point?

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Life is?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Surely life as she just wanted to. I mean, God
bless her, I've got nothing against her, but she just
comes on and speaks gobbledygook and nonsense and you're listening
to it and going, what's this mean? And I'm listening
to it, going what's this mean? And it's my show.

Speaker 20 (44:39):
My choice shake it off.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Or I can shake it off. Will Jordan's back in
the side and he's had a big injury, so he's
done the rehabit. He'll be excited. We'll talk to him
in the next half our meantime.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
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into the issues.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jackie you were the art
of performance news togsa'd.

Speaker 17 (45:02):
Be, Mike.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
By having Chloe on your show helps expose how crazy
the Greens are. Mike, don't ban Chloe. She reminds me
of why I should never vote for the Greens. I'm
not sure that's a useful exercise is and it might
get some balls. He's such a wemth Thank you for that.
Thoughts on the opening ceremony, Mike, Mike applied the three
strikes for all to Chloe. Some bad idea. Three strokes
opening ceremony only saw parts of it, the part that

(45:23):
got most controversial. I thought, my word, that's controversial. It'll
get some social media backlash, followed by the apology. It
turns out I was right. Twenty three minutes away from
eighty commentary Box Andrew Salvaguy have helped a lot of
good stuff over the weekend. The F one this morning,
if you're not up on it, was spellbindingly interesting, And
of course the Olympics. Is it too early to suggest,

(45:46):
let's be controversial, is it too early to suggest that
we look a bit ordinary at these games that by
the end of it we might, as we used to
do twen twenty thirty years ago, have a conversation about
how some of our athletes don't quite perform at the
moment they really need to perform. I mean, a medal
table may well prove me wrong, but just in these
early days, things aren't looking that that auspicious.

Speaker 21 (46:08):
Can we just also garner a little bit of hope
that there were some quite good finishes and some rowing
heats in the middle of the night last night.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
You know, that's good. So later on the week we
might be having something and that's exciting. So it might
it might come right for us. But my initial concern
was that company, whoever they were, that had us at
fourteen medals, that alone was a problem. One of the
medals was a gold from a team that plays rugby
that turns out not to have been that good, so
that medal's gone. So hence my hents my concern. Now

(46:35):
day one of the government's new anyway the sport with
the lads after eight, Day one of the government's new
Academy's pilot. Of course, next three months ten offenders going
to stay to Parms North facility. The following nine will
be spent transitioning back into the community. The person in
chargeable or this is the Children's Minister Karen Shaw, who
is with us.

Speaker 22 (46:52):
Good morning, Oh morning, hope your morning's going well?

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It is so far. Do you do you enter this
with a level of confidence.

Speaker 21 (47:04):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (47:04):
Yes, I do because what I inherited was absolutely depressing
these young people who were sitting in these youth justice
facilities with absolutely no hope. Now I know that ten
of these young men actually have some hope as of today.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Have you been surprised at the amount of pushback you've got?

Speaker 22 (47:27):
Actually no, because I do understand the trauma response, especially
considering the Royal Commission inquiry into care and the boot
camps in that inquiry, so I can understand how it
can concerns some people.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
You're very charitable. I watch you and question time. You've
taken a lot of heat in question time. They're almost
desperate to prove you wrong. Do you feel that, Oh?

Speaker 17 (47:52):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 22 (47:53):
And it's actually quite disappointing because what I would want
to see is them to want to see these kids succeed.
That's what we all want. We all want a better
life for our young people, and we all want it
safer community. So really can't understand why people are wishing
this will not succeed.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Have you been able to explain to their I mean
clearly you haven't to their satisfaction, but the idea that
we've been here before it didn't work according to them,
but somehow this is going to be different.

Speaker 22 (48:24):
Yeah, And we talk about all the wrap around support
and the nine months transition back into the community which
we've never done before. That are asking for community to
take this on board. That's exactly what we're doing. So
it's like talking to a brick wall sometimes when you
want something to fail so badly, you're just not willing
to listen.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
How do we know that if it does work, what
will it look like? How will we be able to
go look at that it worked.

Speaker 22 (48:53):
And when we start seeing less harm in our communities.
That's my aim. I'm thinking about the victims of the
crow of these young people too. We need less harm
in our communities, and the more we can do to
turn these young people's lives around so they're not creating
victims and harming people, that's no very successful.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
That one person that you've got along with these kids
when they come out after the three months, is that
the critical bit that they've got that one person to
stay in contact with the whole way.

Speaker 22 (49:24):
I think that's just part of the whole picture. But yes,
it is really important that this young person house that
has somebody to help them navigate the world when they
come back into the community.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
What's your assessment on these kids? Is it genetics? So
in other words, it doesn't matter what you do with them,
they cannot be helped, or can all kids be helped?

Speaker 22 (49:47):
All kids can be helped, Mike, I could have been
one of those kids. I could have gone down the
wrong path, but I had that one person in my
life that told me I was worth something and helped
me to stem myself done the right pathway. So hopefully
we can put that right person in front of this
young person and show them that actually somebody does care

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about them.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Let's hope. So Karen appreciate it. So I'm Karen Shaw,
who's the Children's Minister. Eighteen away from eight Pasketight was
in the program in the Northern Australia. Ninety percent success, right, Yeah,
it's often it's not just the idea, it's the execution
of the idea, of course, and there's been just a
tremendous amount of negativity around it that is not just
what they're right. As I asked on the program last week,
what if they're right, Mike, the Kimchee sprinkles they're on

(50:30):
back order. Interesting story about the kim Chee sprinkles. Mum
and Dad operation out of way. Kato had no idea
what was going on. The whole world blew up last
week when I mentioned them, and orders were going left,
right and center. They were at a food show over
the weekend. One of the organizers of the food show
went up to them and said, oh, the kim Tree
sprinkles that they go. We don't know what's happening. They
were busy on Friday. They do the sprinkles, but they've

(50:50):
got a contractor doing the air drying, so they had
to get onto the contractor with the air drying to
dry some more so they could fulfill the back order's
business was booming, and so there was an increasing number
of people who are getting frustrated that they couldn't get
hold of their Kimchi sprinkles, so they bumped. As far
as they know, they bunt production.

Speaker 20 (51:07):
I hope that Danvin's, you know, like, spit up the
drying process.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
You don't want you don't want to rush it.

Speaker 20 (51:12):
You don't want a soggy sprinkle.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
You don't want to you don't want to rush a
kimchi sprinkle. I think that's why I'd be known in
the kim Chi sprinkle circles seventeen to two, the Mike
costing breakfast Mike. Even there's a small number of successful cases,
it's worth it. I I tend to agree Mike listening
to Karen, even if nothing else, she gives them hope.
I think there are two people who are overtly dedicated
to their task in this current parliament. One is Karen

(51:35):
Suaw the others Mark Mitchell. And I know he's regulus
to no favors, but I mean that these are people
who are living, breathing their jobs at the moment and
hopefully turn up some decent results. Mike max ve As
just posted a picture of himself and Danny Rick leaving
spar and a chopper. They look like best of buds.
Well they probably are. Most of them get on very
well together. Most of them fly in together because they
share the cost of choppers and plants. By the way,

(51:56):
Ricardo and Liam Lawson are going to be head to
head in a couple of days at I've completely forgotten
the name the most famous race Italy. Give me a
track in Italy. Anyway, they're going to be there and
in the same car, same equipment, head to head, with
the possibility that Perez gets you know.

Speaker 20 (52:17):
What about Monza.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah, I can't tell you. I don't know when that's happening,
but it's head to head, so it's a test. It's
a promotional day officially it's a promotional day, but it's
it's head to head testing. So it's all coming to
a head. As they say, I can't tell you where
I got this from, but I've got some information on Hospow.
There seems to be a lot of banks around Hospow
this morning. So we go back a year. This is
a very well known Auckland establishment, whoevery kindly provided me

(52:42):
with the numbers, but I can't tell you who they are.
A year ago they had four point four to seven
seven accounts open, they had an average spend of a
bit over thirty dollars, and they had a total take
of one hundred and seventy eight thousand. Right, remember those numbers.
Four point four seven seven accounts open, average spend of

(53:04):
thirty bucks and a total return of one hundred and
seventy eight thousand dollars. Fast forward to this year, they've
got more accounts open, in other words, people with cards
eleven point nine, so it's gone from four point four
to eleven point nine, so more people are there. The
average spend has gone from thirty dollars down to twenty dollars,
so more people are there spending less. But their total

(53:28):
take has gone from one hundred and seventy eight thousand
dollars to three hundred and seven thousand, so there's more
money coming in now. What we don't have here are
the costs, So we don't have how much food was
brought and what they paid for it. Now that will
have gone up, the drink will have gone up. Everything's inflationary.
I get all of that, but it does give you
the backup to what we're seeing in these figures that
there are more people out there. No, they're not spending

(53:49):
as much as they used to because they don't have
as much as they used to, but there are more
people out there. So the outtake for the establishment is
they're making more money. So that backs up what we
were telling you earlier on. Then we come to the
business of Peter Teal, who's a billionaire with an association
with New Zealand. And he wanted to build a place
in Wanaica, and that place in Wanaka could have thirty

(54:11):
guests and they'd have somewhere between fifteen and thirty staff.
This is all to do with tourism. It's all to
do with people investing in the country. It's all to
do with business and growing New Zealand. Note but he's
given up. Why is he given up? Because he got
resource consent rejected by the Queenstown Lakes District our subsequent
rejection from the Environment Court. The proposed tree planting would

(54:31):
not adequately cover the buildings or protect the buildings from
several public viewpoints on a nearby public track. So if
you're just wandering along in your public track on a
Sunday afternoon. You looked over there and went, oh my word,
what's that. Is that Peter's place? Well, yes it is,
and that is why he's not building a lodge now
and why we miss out and why New Zealand continually

(54:54):
shoots itself in the foot, tripping itself over with endless
rules and regulations. We'll talk to the I'm innister about
that tomorrow.

Speaker 15 (55:01):
Turn Away from eight, the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's
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Speaker 2 (55:07):
Having away from it, We've got the thirty six man
squad for the Rugby Championship. Among the names, Will Jordan's back,
along with Sam Cane, David Heavily and the newcap Jordan
Love of course, and Will Jordan's with us morning, Mike.
Is it good to be back.

Speaker 5 (55:20):
As good to you that? Yeah, it's been a wee
while in the wilderness this year, bit of a long
road back from the shoulder injuries, so had a bit
of a taste with ads over the last three or
four weeks being in camp. Yes, nicely, finally, yeah, properly.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Definitely group when you go through what you've gone through
and it's a major both in time and terms of surgery.
How much can you do physically by way of rehab.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
It was a pretty quiet couple of months to be here.
It was in a sling for about six weeks, so
you're pretty limited in that time. And then even the
first five or six weeks once I got that off, yeah,
the shotter wasn't able to kind of get through too
much range or too much strength work, so even passing
and that sort of thing was tough work. So yeah,

(56:09):
the first three or four months are pretty slow going,
just building into the rehab and some by waits really
and then probab the last month or two I've been
able to train with the team a bit more and
then finally the last two or three weeks back into
full contact training. So wow, yeah, there's a little bit
slow going. So yeah, trying to get as many reps
I can at this stage now.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
And is that mental or is it physical or is
it both?

Speaker 5 (56:33):
It's a little bit of both. I think, Yeah, it's
a bit of a journey long term injury like that,
so you have the ups and downs and different motivation,
and I think now as I closer to playing, you
start to dial and the meedtalk a bit more kind
of trusting that your shoulders in a good place so
been able to take the bumps and bruises that come
with playing rugby and being confident that all stand up

(56:57):
to that. So that's kind of where the last two
weeks is, Yeah, trying to get as much contact into
it as possible, and yeah, trust it.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
And do they give you tools around that, because I
don't want to bore you will, but I've had a
knee issue and so I second guess manie all the time.
Do you second guess your shoulder or is that a
natural thing that you can go back into it and
hit contact or does someone have to tell you trust
believe it. I'm a doctor and I know, or how
does that work?

Speaker 5 (57:22):
It is definitely a huge amount of that. We've a
pretty good team around us, the abes, the crusaders of
physicist doctors who are there to give you that and
follow and trust it. And I think there's different titms
where you want to push a little bit more and
sometimes you get held back at it as well. So yeah,
definitely have put in a bit of confidence in the

(57:43):
team experts around you, and I think I finally a
point where you just got to yeah, have faith in
what you've been doing, take more steps, and then yeah,
take the plunge in your back out there.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Good stuff. What do you make of the All Black
so far this year? From what you've seen England and Fiji.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
I've been pretty impressed, I think, you know, I looked
at that English side that came game to you. I
thought they were pretty good outfoot that tests us in
a lot of ways, particularly around their d so I
think to come away with two wins against them with
a real credit to the group. It's always a huge
thing for you have to win those pipe test matches
and when it comes down to the last ten to

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fifteen minutes, been able to find a way, it's hugely important.
I was pretty impressed that bench in that space and
how they were able to come on and create a
real impact, and I think that's been a key thing
of good All Black teams in the past. And then
I got a chance to New Boys against Fiji, which
was great ms opportunity and I thought they played really well.

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So I think it's a group that's finding their feats
and excited to get back in there.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Good stuff. Go well, well, well, Jordan back with the
All Blakes for the Rugby Championship. The reason I mentioned
my injury not to bore you witless, was I watched
on the news last night Andrew Savile, a man well
beyond his prime, out on the rugby field raising money
for charity, said God bless them for that. But looking
in us in the sort of shape he shouldn't have
been actually physically involved in the game of rugby. What

(59:08):
was he doing out there for goodness sake? And how's
he feel this morning? More shortly in the commentary.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
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Speaker 15 (59:30):
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Speaker 18 (59:33):
Come the Warriors keep this season alive, even as a
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Speaker 14 (59:45):
This has been outstanding for George Russell and for Mercedes
and so one two Russell wins.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
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Speaker 2 (59:53):
Hamilton comes home. It's a pretty said second.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Indeed, Dandrius sa Wilga, I have helt both with us
this morning. Fella's good morning to you, morning, my good morning, guy.
Give us the inside word so far. Your vibe on
what's happened with the Games? Are they all you thought
they would be? The weather, the opening, the events, the victories,
the losses, the spying, the scandal. What's your encapsulation?

Speaker 17 (01:00:22):
Well, first of all, I thought I would probably get
a formal apology from your show this morning after the
planned that I copped last week. I landed in Dubai
and to a numerous amount of decks saying that I
copped absolute grief about not telling you I was going
to be on Which is.

Speaker 16 (01:00:40):
That is true?

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
True?

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
That is true? Let me know what I've done, guy.
To be fair to you, I've set aside a portion
of the second part of this because I got to
the bottom of it this morning and it is shameful
on our behalf. So an apology will be coming back
to the games.

Speaker 17 (01:00:56):
No, yeah, that's fine. Look, I heard you talk before
more about New Zealand results, and yes they have been
slow off the park, and maybe a couple of results
that have been quite disappointing. I'd say particularly the men
and sevens, and then Lewis Clearbert this morning, who I
think would be incredibly upset at how our haeswam. I

(01:01:16):
had heard and I reported this that he had been
going very well and they didn't deny it that his
times were going well, and he certainly didn't live up
that this morning. So I've seen some quotes from him
and he does sound pretty gutted, so you've got a
feel for him. Look, the vibe here is outstanding. I
thought the opening ceremony was pretty boring, but aside from that,
the vibe the venues are just incredible. The French people

(01:01:39):
are getting behind their athletes and other athletes as well.
There is some controversy obviously, the spying the state of
the river, which I wouldn't even throw you in there
after the last week's slandered towards me. That's how bad
it is. Look yeah, But other than that, it's so
far an outstanding games and then they're hosting it pretty well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
In metals, are the trains still a major or they
haven't got to the bottom of it? But are the
trains a major or not?

Speaker 17 (01:02:06):
Well, we were quite fortunate because our whole team was
in Paris by the time that happened, so none of
our team was really impacted by it. I did hear
from a couple of people who were trying to make
their way. I can't remember where they're coming from, but
they said they were slightly impacted from it. It didn't
sound as bad as it was initially made out to be.
Put it that way, I think people have found ways

(01:02:28):
around it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Has anybody got to the bottom of why you would
spy on a team that was never going to beat
you when you went.

Speaker 17 (01:02:37):
I mean, it's a big story because mainly because of
the security I think, and also the integrity of the
sport as well. But that is the number one question,
isn't it. Why on earth would you spy on a
team that, frankly is rubbish. They haven't won anything for
a while. Although in saying that, it sounds like not
only the Canadian women's team has been doing it, but
the men's team has been doing it as well, and
it sounds like they've been doing it for an elongated

(01:02:59):
period of time. So I think there might be more
to this, which is not very good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Okay, sav explain yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
I was just gonna ask guy, how many how many
MalCon and mouth pastries as you had?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Good question?

Speaker 17 (01:03:13):
No no, no, no, no no no, let's get onto
the finger. I have had a few, though pastes pizzas
I struggled to actually find French food around here. I've
had Japanese and Italians and that's pretty much where I've
been going, and amongst pastries obviously. But yeah, other than that, speaking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Speak, pardon, speaking of pastries, explain yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Hey mate, all I can say is I was the
player of the after match.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
I bet you were. I bet you were. So for
people have missed it. This was obviously a charity event
in Russell. Was it yesterday or the day before?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
The game was played on Saturday. It was for a
charity called Rugby for Life and they do some fantastic
works Fishop in the North and Northland in the province,
helping rugby clubs. Basically employ people to look after each
club and to get people back involved in rugby clubs
and to get kids playing again here. So it's great. Yeah,
it was a primitarian team, but heaps of ringings in

(01:04:11):
this parliamentaring team. But I've never seen such a big
young mob of MPs in my life. Mitch play.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yes, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
I didn't realize he was actually playing until I shook
his hands in the game. I said, where have you been?
I wanted to nail you for all the poor, underpaid
police around the country, and he said, I hit the
he hit the first ruck in the start of the game,
and he went and he did his back and he
never didn't see another minute of action. So goodness, I asked,
at that position, did you play?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Good question?

Speaker 16 (01:04:43):
Position?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I packed down in a couple of scrums at Locke,
the one at Blindside, I was in a couple of
line I was just in the everything.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
Guy, I tell you what though.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
The first four parted up. Some guy in the opposition
is about six foot eight with a beard, weighing about
one hundred and fifty. Yep, he screened out my name
as he went to tackle me, so I knew something
was about to give and I got absolutely nailed. The
crowd went up. I think it might have been the
heartlight of the game, but.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
No, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
It was a fantastic occasion and day and then the
evening at the fantastic duke of Marlbret and Russell. Got
a spot, got a spot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
More details in just a moment. Guy have held Andrew Seville.
Sevell's sporting exploits plus the Olympics. It doesn't get any better.
Thirteen past eight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
The Mike Husking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
It is a quarter past eight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Guy have elt and Andrew Sevil just the only reason
I'm interested in giving your age and everything. Andrew, how
did you pull up?

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Not good? No, not good?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
I've heard a rumor.

Speaker 17 (01:05:52):
Yeah, a finger.

Speaker 18 (01:05:55):
Not good.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I should be able to work tomorrow and tap on
the keyboard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
So it's an injury as opposed to seizing up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Well, there was a lot of seizing up. I had
to drive back from Russell to Auckland yesterday and I
had to get some gas and fung out a and
people were staring at me walking across the forecourt. I
looked like a half shut pocket knife. Things went good,
But what the story of the game, though, was we

(01:06:25):
were well led by Tane Randall. Once a captain, always
a captain. He revealed to me later that night that
he'd blown his hamstring in the warm up, but he
still played most of the gap. He said it didn't
affect this pace at all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Those are the days. Those are the days.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
And the great half time speech from our coach, Ian Jones,
he said, look, you fat pricks up front of doing
a wonderful job, but for God, he said, for God's sake,
get the ball to Nehe Milner's scudder, who was one
of our wingers.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
And but you won, though, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Yes, we did thirty three. I think it was it
was it was. It was a blowout. I didn't. It's
the lay that the labor MPs. You could tell those
guys because they were backpeddling at a fair rate of
not precisely national, national and z first trying very very
hard to change the way the game was going.

Speaker 20 (01:07:11):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
But you know some of those guys, like I mean
you you you might do I mean, did you get
doctors clearance? What about Shane Jones? I mean really, I mean,
with all due respect to him, I mean, at that age,
to be doing that sort of thing is you're running
a risk, aren't you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
There were there was an ambulance in a team of
paramedics on standby. I think there was a there was
a defibrillator on both sides of the field. No, it
was Bundy got Actually yeah, no it was I didn't
nail penny. He know, rre at one stage that felt
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Yeah, well done, well done. Anyway, going back to you,
one of the things you notice when you cover events
in big cities is that a big city can absorb.
It's not like New Zealand, I mean New Zealand if
we ever held the Olympics, it would closed the place down.
Does France feel like it's immersed in Olympic noise?

Speaker 17 (01:08:00):
That's a very good question. Elements or parts of it are?
Sections of it are. People are very very into it,
but some other people that you talk about couldn't give
a toss that it's on. You know, you go into
the middle of the town around the arch tree on
from that sort of thing, and people are going to work,
going about their normal lives, barely even registering that the
Olympics are on. In terms of traffic, you know, parts

(01:08:24):
of that towards venues are bad, but overall they've got
it pretty good. They've got Olympic lanes and that sort
of thing. So the traffic in terms of that flowing
pretty well. Overall. Yeah, I think it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
And what's your vibe on see if things don't go
well for us. Here and new reference that I can't
remember the name of the company, the company that does
the predictions for all the metals. They had, Yeah, they
had us at fourteen. We're not going to get fourteen
unless something dramatic happens. If we don't do well, well,
will you go? Oh you argue with me, you think.

Speaker 17 (01:08:55):
Well, I just think.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
Yes.

Speaker 17 (01:08:57):
It's been a slow start, but you've got to remember
Rowings coming up, and they were quite heavy underdogs and
a lot of quarters heading into these games. But they've
been excellent in the heats and shine pretty strong results
in the heats. The men's four Emma Twig, Tom Macintosh,
the Light Way women double I believe of all one
their heats, and then the women's fall finished second, so

(01:09:21):
there should be some medals coming in there. The cyclists
are heading into these games looking pretty good. The kayakers
obviously Dame LESA. Carrington, she will win at least a
medal or two, and the women's sevens would have to
be favorites for gold. So yes, it's been slow, but
there are still medals to come.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
This sort of happens happens just about this sort of
happens about every games, that isn't you know, It's a
slow start and everybody gets hasty and concerned, and then
all of a sudden there's a flood at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Well, well, as long as there is a flood at
the end, that was my point. Guy, Do you think
I were of an age now where once upon a
time we used to have a really angsty conversation in
this country about before wants elite athletes funding, winning, being
champions or are we just sort of not into that anymore?
And as long as they turned up and had a
good time, that's fine.

Speaker 17 (01:10:09):
I think in some sports there is still that question.
There are a lot of you know, like sailing gets
big numbers in terms of funding, and well and they
haven't got anywhere near their medal races yet, but leading
into it, you'd have to say that they are looking
unlikely to win any medals. Rowing obviously gets big numbers,
and they will need to prove that they deserve that funding.

(01:10:33):
So I think in terms of some sports there are
you always here from basketball people for example, they don't
get enough money and so if these sports that do
get a lot of funding don't live up to the hype,
at these games, then those calls will come. I don't
think it's maybe as as fervent as it used to
be in that regard people who's to get very fired
up about it. I don't know if it's quite as

(01:10:55):
bad as it is here.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
You sad? Are you ready for the good news? What's
that Rams National Basketball title two in a row?

Speaker 13 (01:11:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Yes, yes, I watched that yesterm fantastical stadium going off and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Lynwood Rugby got the christ Premier Competition yesterday as well
years I think, wasn't it Yeah, nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Fantastic And it's on your point of just on your
point of pressure in that just if I can relate
back to Russell on Saturday, you know, Tane Randalls in
the huddle and once the captain, always the captain. But
these guys, whether it's charity game, whether it's a Test match,
they played to win and they never lose that attitude.
I was, it was so fantastic to be that close

(01:11:35):
to those sorts of guys and playing with them, if
I can use that to him loosely, but Renny Ranger
was playing for his near him and was got a
feel all blacks and those guys played to win whatever
game they're in.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
That's why it never changes. You know, that's one of
the champions, and you are in association with champions, so
a little bit of that champion could have rubbed.

Speaker 17 (01:11:55):
Has raised given you a call? Yet?

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Well I did see Graham Henry later that night and
he said hap, he said, I'd pick you and my
team any days sah, And I said, okay, Graham, it's
probably late at night, mate, are you are?

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
You can trust Sef? So you're sure, but justpe to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Justpec to Russell, what a stunning you know you can't
you guys probably here, that's a stunning little place.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
It's it's a Duke of mart It's as good as.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
A hospitality and fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
If I put you on hold now, Sef, can you
tell yourself some more stories for another half hour? See
how you go? Andrew zevil the guy have felt at
day twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with alda retirement Community News togs,
he'd be twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Yeah, as regards guy, and we do owe him an
apology because it was entirely our fault. It's it's it's
it's hard to pinpoint down there's a little bit I
suspective systemic failure involved in the inability to communicate with Guy.
So we accused Guy of leaving the country last week
and not contacting us or letting us know he wouldn't
be available for the commentary box. It was indeed our

(01:13:01):
fault because the combination of Sammy, who's just still learning
the email system here at work, and the email system
which had installed he claimed this is his story, had
installed or found itself with some sort of spam facility
that took emails and put them into the wrong folders,
so nobody ever heard anything, and when it was investigated,

(01:13:21):
there was indeed something in that system, and there was
a whole lot of backfilled emails sitting there waiting to
be delivered. Than one of them, of course, or several
of them were to Guy who had emailed and we
had emailed head.

Speaker 20 (01:13:32):
Why I've been having to pretend to be all the
guests for the last very very.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Much an exhaust Your impersonations of them have been good,
and I don't think anyone's really picked up on so far.

Speaker 21 (01:13:42):
Like I feel like, you know, when I was pretending
to be Chloe this morning, you were really exasperated.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I was getting really wound up by the time you
finished being her. I thought, that's good on you for anyway,
upshot was guy was clean and guilt free. We let
him down so that.

Speaker 20 (01:13:56):
That Sam should have just said, CrowdStrike, Crow.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
CrowdStrike bound to be. My pool still affected by it,
by the way, my pool still we're still not back
properly one hundred percent because of CrowdStrike. What can I
tell you? We've got a poll out in Australia and
a reshuffle.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Talk to Mike Casking Breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life
your Way, News Talk sad Be Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
I was talking to a good friend over the weekend
who's heavily involved in the setting up of these military
academies and palms in the North. He said, the boys
are fizziting at the chance to turn their life around.
They all know that this is their last chance and
if they fail next time, it'll be big boys prison
for them. Obviously not in the tractive thought. I hope
you're right, Mike Shablet is best performing like a sports
commentator champion deserves a gold for this morning's performance. Yep,

(01:14:43):
we all love Sam, don't we? Twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 13 (01:14:45):
Nine international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business, we'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
In Australia at the moment, How are you mate?

Speaker 16 (01:14:53):
I guess you'll have to start supporting the Aussie swimmers.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Really, I knew this was coming I knew this coming out.
I was reading over the weekend. Suddenly yet not only
you winning goals, but you were the top of the
middle table in the whole world.

Speaker 16 (01:15:07):
Correct, we were, and we won another one overnight with
Jess Fox. In the kayaking of courts. We all become experts.
I know nothing about kayaking, but it's a wonderful sport.
Every four years I pay a lot of attention to it.
And of course we have area and tipnas is just unbelievable.

Speaker 19 (01:15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:15:24):
So we are on top of the world here and
the Matilda's managed to survive in the women's soccer winning
six goals to four.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
So now it's exciting.

Speaker 16 (01:15:33):
We're enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Good on you as you should. What's your success because
we were talking about Swool. We haven't won a Middle
and the pol since nineteen ninety six. And swimming for
US is one of those sports where every now and
again someone unusual comes along, so they're not represented ave
of the sport. They just happen to be a freak Catholic,
whereas you seem to churn them out like a factory.
So you must put shed loads of dough into swimming.

Speaker 16 (01:15:57):
No, Gina Reinhart the Australians, which is women, puts shed
loads of money into swimming. She personally sponsors all of
the female swimmers in the Australian Dolphins swimming team, and
she spends millions of dollars. She actually pays these people
not to work so they can go and train and
be gold medal swimmers. I mean, that's the bottom line

(01:16:17):
of it. I mean, yes, the government does put in
some money, but Queensland turns these people out. They've got
great coaches, they've got great conditions. It's all as warm
and I guess most of your swimmers, I don't know,
maybe they're over here. I don't know why. It seems
very odd, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
It's interesting talk to me about the reshuffle yesterday. So
a couple of the people who needed to be moved
aside to just for the record they didn't get booted
out of cabinet. They lost their portfolios.

Speaker 16 (01:16:43):
Is that right? One got booted out of cabinet. But
these are people you have never heard of, so I
won't concentrate on their names. But two of them were
involved in Home Affairs and immigration. Now that's been a
complete disaster. We've got so many migrants coming into the country,
the ill legal boat people operations again flowing out of
Indonesia toward Australia. We're turning boats around, we're actually buying

(01:17:07):
brand new boats to put people who are trying to
get into the country back to Indonesia so they get
back there and don't try and come back here again,
so they're gone. That's Claire O'Neill and Andrew Giles. I
guess the promotion is Tony Burke, the leader of the
government in the House. He's now taken over on the
whole Home Affairs portfolio. Some suggesting in the media this

(01:17:29):
morning that this might be again another hint at an
early election, because Anthony Albanesi, when the announcesis yesterday said
this is the team I'll take to the election. Well,
if the election is going to be eight or nine
months away, then that's a pretty bold statement because anything
could happen. So I've given up on predicting when the
election is going to be. But the new faces are there,

(01:17:50):
and Anthony Alberanisi is probably now ready to fight an election,
although there's some polls around them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Well, I I was just going to ask how does
he go to an election? With the poll that I'm
looking at right now.

Speaker 16 (01:18:00):
Redbridge was in the weekend papers yesterday Coalition leading fifty
one and a half to forty eight and a half Labor.
It's a huge change. Labour's gone from fifty two percent
ahead to forty eight and it's completely flipped since April
of Coalition's primary vote's gone from thirty seven to forty one.
And some interpretation of this is that the Coalition's policies

(01:18:24):
are starting to work with working class and outer suburban
voters now without getting too deep in the weeds. That's
where they need to win it. They've given up on
inner city seats that they lost to the teel movement
last time, and they're now saying it's all cost of living.
Your electricity builders blog can't give you a cheaper cost
of living, and so you've got a vote for US,
and it's starting to work, particularly in outer metropolitan Melbourne

(01:18:47):
and Sydney where people who have probably been at some
stage union members, blue collar workers. They're starting to listen
to what Dutton's having to say. And there's a big
day to Wednesday when the latest inflation figure Mike comes out.
If that is still stubbornly high, you could then see
an August interest rate rise and that would be a

(01:19:07):
disaster exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
So the polls interesting to the extent people earning less
than one thousand bucks a week, the support for the
coalition's up six percent. For those earning one thousand to
two thousand dollars up by four percent. So that is
a policy thing as opposed to I'm just sick of
the government.

Speaker 16 (01:19:22):
Huge turnaround. It is a huge turnaround. Those people would
normally be voting labor, labor, labor, but they don't see
that the policies of the current government have been there
for two years, are actually putting any more food on
their table.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Wow. Speaking of the Olympics, is the strike by the
Sydney Morning Herald and the age and stuff all tied
in the Channel Ie Given that all of the same owners.

Speaker 16 (01:19:44):
Yes nine owns the free Towere TV network, the Freeware radio,
and it also owns the left leaning newspapers Sidney Moony Herald,
The Age Financial Review. They've got one hundred and fifty
staff in Chants to cover the Olympics for print that
is not television and prints, so the TV is separate,

(01:20:05):
and they're all on strike. I mean they've sent these
one hundred and fifty people over there, paid for their
hotel accommodation airfares, and they've done months and months and
months of work to get the papers ready for great
coverage and nothing. They're on strike for five days. I mean.
The other thing about this, when was the last time
you had a major strike in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
We done well a little bit in the last government,
but we don't tend We're not like you and that
unit heavily unionized. I mean we had some nurses and
teachers last time, but that was about a year ago
over pay. But it's not the same. You guys do
seem to go on strike a lot more.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Than we do.

Speaker 16 (01:20:40):
Yeah, we do well used to. I mean I can't
recall the last big strike. I mean there's been a
couple of ghost slows from as you mentioned, people like
ambulance drivers, nurses, but there's not been a big all out,
let's walk off the job strike as this one is.
And so the papers have been produced by management, presumably
all of the hard work that they put in there

(01:21:01):
to cover the Olympic Games out in the Window Nine's interurmoil,
the chairman was the CEO, folk called Sneezeby, who's over
in Paris running with the Olympic torch while Harpy's staff
going out on strike and getting sack was not a
good look. And they haven't had a chairman of the
board since Peter Costello, the ex treasurer, ran over that
reporter in the camera airport.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Can I just ask you, because I was reading over
the weekend, you've got a COVID report out, and you've
got an investigation like everybody else in the whole world's
got an investigation is COVID and it's sort of you know,
having a look at it and how you handled it
and whether you're going to learn your lessons? Is that
a thing for people or we've just all moved on,
removed on, I think, although COVID is still around.

Speaker 16 (01:21:46):
But look, if you live in Victoria, you'll forever remember
what Daniel Andrews did to Victorians locked them up boarding
anyone else in the world. But who cares now it's
gone past. No one wants to think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
All right, mate, we'll catch up Wednesday very much. Deeprice
out of Australia. Gladys Veragiclian was the other thing, by
the way, forming New South Wales premier. She lost her
court bit on Friday to overturn the i CAC thing,
that corruption thing she had the boyfriend gave some money.
It all got taken to court and had the investigation
she'd lost. She appealed. She lost again sixteen to nine.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
The Myke hosting Rekist.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Twelve Away from Mind just pot we leave the Australian media.
Andrew Bolt, who's on Sky News. You may watch him.
He's available on you here through the Sky platform. He
says that if Murdoch and his oldest son Lachlan lose
control of Sky in other words, it goes to James says.
If you're not following, this is the big scrap once again,
the Murdoch family out of control of the company. If
James Windsy's quitting, so that's the end of that. Did

(01:22:44):
it strike you as not much money to divert a plane.
So this is the prime minster if you missed the
numbers this morning. So this was lux and going to
Japan right and the whole thing fell apart and Papa
in New Guinea plane wouldn't start and he had to
dash off. He and his wife Amanda, three staff par
Pur to Japan via Hong Kong. Thirty thousand dollars for

(01:23:05):
five people. That's not bad. I thought, that's not bad.
I mean you'd be up the front of the plane.
I'm assuming unless they had to stick them down the
back because it was so last minute he couldn't get
up the front of the plane. But five people for
thirty grand to six grand a person and from Papur
to Hong Kong to Japan is not bad going given
the cost of an airline these days. Anyway, the main
point of this is the diversion of that air New

(01:23:26):
Zealand plane the next day from they were going up
to Japan Auckland to Japan, but it was via Brisbane.
They diverted. The plan to Brisbane only cost sixty three
thousand dollars to divert an entire plane. I would have
thought it would if you'd asked me, how much do
you reckon it cost to divert a plane off to
the left for a considerable amount of time and then
get it back on track, I would have said two

(01:23:47):
or three hundred thousand dollars at a guess, so sexty
three is not much further. The government are busy undertaking
cost recovery from the business delegates themselves, so they reckon
by the time they've cleaned it all up, it's going
to cost us thirty six thousand dollars, which, given the
inconvenience and the embarrassment, I get all that part of it,
But as far as the so called extra cost of

(01:24:08):
having a junker of a plane, thirty six thousand dollars
isn't actually a lot, is it. I wouldn't worried about it,
sav says the text. Very humble. He got absolutely smoked
twice and got straight back up again. Massive respect. Good
on him. I don't know if that's a compliment.

Speaker 20 (01:24:31):
Yeah, I'm trying to figure that out too. It's getting
absolutely snacked twice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Not showing a lot of form.

Speaker 20 (01:24:39):
But at least he was the little down it was
on a number of occasions.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
He's the little engine that could, I think is what
they're saying. Nine away from nine.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
The costas Jue, Well, what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Of the Invercargol council achieved by censoring nobby? Again? Many
many times do you censor a democratically elected mayor before
it sort of becomes a waste of time? Mike, was
that swem not not condoning what he necessarily did? I
don't take a view on it. I'm sort of it's
one of those things that you're not interested in anything.
Come and just get on with running the place, will you?

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Might?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Was that swim Taestic yesterday? Our granddaughter started at two,
now eleven, she's in the silver lane. I observed the
swim of sixteen plus potential Olympians coaching, amazing breathing action. Wow, Rosie,
I've been there as well. I've been in the old
swim Testic watching them up and down? How many times?
How many parents have not taking their kids to swim
Testic over the years or something similar? Up and down,
round around they go. Everyone wants to be an Olympian,

(01:25:37):
don't we. We all wanted to be an Olympia at
some point, whether we hit a ball or ran round
a track or swim up and down. We all wanted
to be an Olympian until we weren't. That's why we're
all doing what we're doing. And we're not in Paris
at the moment winning medals or getting through in op PA.

Speaker 20 (01:25:51):
You're a gold medalist in the Olympics of radio.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Thanks Glenn. Quite overcome now, and that's six minutes.

Speaker 20 (01:26:02):
I meanwhile, I just strive to try and beat my personal.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Best exactly six minutes away from nine.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
Trending now with Chemist Warehouse, stop paying.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Too much the plucky little tech that could.

Speaker 20 (01:26:18):
I like that little part.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Trending right now with Chemist ware House, the home of
big brand fightamens.

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Bob Ballard is a British commentator and things have not
gone well for Bob at the Olympics. He was com
commentating on the women's four x one hundred relay final
won by Australia. At the end, when the medalists were
walking out, he said, now this has been scrubbed from
the audio. Hence we're not playing you the audio. He says,

(01:26:46):
quote the women are just finishing up, as in receiving
their medals. The women are just finishing up. The women
are just finishing up so how he talks the women
are just finishing up.

Speaker 20 (01:27:00):
He's British, not Pakistani.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Sorry, you know what women are like hanging around doing
their mechup. So he's been canceled for that. I should
be canceled from impersonating bad commentation. Yeah really anyway, they've
removed him from the roster effective immediately. Then there's this
bit of commentary ten thousand k entry fee. They're talking

(01:27:22):
about the ten thousand k entry fee to the World
Series of Poker. So Jonathan Tomato, he's just won ten
million as the first prize. Plus he's also won the
half million dollar bracelet because everyone every man needs a
half million dollar bracelet. Don't worry anyway, when he said this.

Speaker 8 (01:27:37):
Front lifetime grinder to lifetime world champion for Jonathan Tomao.

Speaker 20 (01:27:46):
He's going to be making it rain in the street
club tonight. He's going to be making it what he's
going to do, He's going to be making it rain
in the strip clubs tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Did she know something we don't? Is that how that works?
I don't know anyway, there's too much random stuff. If
you haven't and I didn't mention this until much earlier
on this morning, if you haven't watched the f one,
watch it because it's one for the ages. So what's
happened this morning? And I still haven't got to the
bottom of it one hundred percent for sure. But Mercedes

(01:28:22):
cocked it up and their car came in underweight and
George Russell won, and he won in the most spectacular fashion.
It is just too good for words because right up
his tailpipe was Lewis Hamilton and then right up his
tailpipe was Piastre. It was the closest finish you've seen

(01:28:42):
in years, bing bing, bing, about a second between all
three of them. So and Russell was just beside himself
with what he had done. It was literally the drive
of his life, you know, speaking about performance in the
Olympics and living up to your expectation. He's never driven
so well, he's never won so well. This was his
moment until it wasn't watch it, you won't believe it.

(01:29:06):
Back tomorrow morning. There's always Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
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