Full Show Podcast: 29 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Demanding the answers from the decision makers. The mic Hosking
breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial,
and rural news togs had been welded.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
COVID report, whether it means anything at all? New workplace
laws around wrongful dismissal. We got numbers around black Friday.
How important that is to a beleagued sector. Tim and
Katy be the week gur it did, Undela Murray Olds
They poney up as well, the passing right into its
Friday morning, seven past six. I'm very glad the COVID
report has been released. I mean, why wouldn't it be
it's ours? But for a while there it looked like
it might not be. We lived and we are living through.

(00:34):
It says a lot of stuff you thought it would say.
Compulsory mandates were one of the most controversial measures. No kidding,
the country was not prepared for border closures or MiQ.
Really they run the line that we had fewer infections
and therefore fewer deaths than other countries. I know. Chrishipkins
yesterday was still rejecting the idea that vaccine mandates were
a mistaken in that is the real problem. Of course,

(00:55):
in competent government leads to incompetent response. Arrogance leads to
an innerblit. He to do things differently, which I think,
in part anyway, is the point of the report. Give
us a blueprint for next time. The blueprint says mandates
were a mistake. Hepkins, who could be PM as soon
as twenty twenty six, seems to think he's more right
than the inquiry. So are we any further ahead at all?

(01:16):
You need to also factor phase one, despite what Tony
Blakeley told us on the programme yesterday, is not the
full picture. It's a comprehensive picture within the guidelines he
was given. Now the guidelines he wasn't given. Why we're
having phase two. I still argue it would have been
better if we had taken the British route, the adversarial approach.
Put Adurn and Hepkins and Bloomfield on the stand, asked
some penetrating questions. Doesn't have to be a court to

(01:38):
elicit material. This report hasn't found. The really important part
for me, though, is not what we did then, but
what the outworking of what we did then produced, what
we have now, what we're still living through and why
because what we have now so badly damaged, we must
learn not to do what we did last time. Are
the kids not at school, the behavior of so many

(01:59):
that's out of control, the moral fatigue, the social decline,
the malays that is not measure totally in stats, but
the overarching feeling this country is a shadow of what
it once was. That's the real story of COVID. But
I still maintain right all the reports you want, inquire
until you blue in the face of pandemic as luck.
If the government that is in on the day the
pandemic arrives as good, you'll be okay. If it's labor

(02:21):
twenty seventeen through twenty twenty three, well you don't need
the report. Just look at us.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds and it.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Is something for nothing. The palms are flat out this morning,
new immigration stats shore. The floodgates are open. So Kei
has signed a deal with Iraq to get tough on smugglers.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
This is a world first that will help us smash
the people's smuggling gangs and secure our borders. And we've
also announced funding for Iraqi law enforcement to tackle this problem. Upstream.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Then they have worries. It's some military bases used by
the Americans. Seems the spotting drone activity.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
We need to shoot them down, you know, rather than
have a for an adversary collecting on us which they
are in testing our response, which they have and they've
been getting away with it.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Then we got a bloke called Daniel Daniels, a former
British soldier who had court decided was collecting material for
a run. Daniel might be a bit dim.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
We went to Turkey and the plan kind of went sour.
I delivered a package to them which I don't think
I should tell you, but just don't mention it to anyone.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, despite the fact you're being recorded Daniel anyway, the
Midheaber view on.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Him, I don't think Daniel Cleif should come and work
for any UK agency. And I think Daniel Kleief committed
some extremely serious offenses. I like to think of him
as a bit of a watermittee character who ultimately had
a very substantial real world.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Impact the north of the border of the Scots. To
prove they're not like the Brits are handing out winter
payments for everyone.

Speaker 7 (03:46):
We will not abandon older people this winter or indeed
any winter, and we will continue to protect air pensioners
from the harsh reality of a UK labor government.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then from the old chib as well. Poor our Greg
Wallace of Mastership has been pinged by a bunch of
women who claim he tells rude jokes in accident a
creepy way. So he stepped down from the telly and
joins the list of the cancel.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
The BBTRE has had an incredibly bruising year really if
you think about Hugh Edwards, Jermaine Jennis j Blades from
the repair Shop, as well all high profile figures in
the BBC whose conduct off screen has been criticized. And
here we go again.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Priinally Banksy News in Bristol two thousand and six. Banks
he painted a piece well Hung Lover. It's the naked
man clinging to a window still as another man looks
out the window. It's very clever. It's living in mighty
walls with expeler. Now the building is now being put
up for sale. It's got a Grade two which means
you can't touch the bank sing so the new owner
will have to sign a lease saying that the art
cannot be removed. From the building. You don't actually have

(04:42):
to maintain it, but you would unless you're an idiot.
So anyway, you've got a building and a Banksy guess
how much one point five million New Zealand one point
five million, So the last Banksy mural sold for one
point seven so essentially it's cheap art and you get
a building thrown in. Well the world and night. By
the way, money worries this morning and heaps of them,

(05:03):
the one Chinese one. They're projecting that to week and
two seven point five to one to the dollar US
by the end of twenty five. That would mark the
currency's weakest level on record. The rupl is plunging as
we speak. There is panic in Russia. Central banks had
to get involved. That's down to one hundred and fourteen
against the greenback. And Catherine was right yesterday on the

(05:24):
program when she said, if we don't watch out, France
is going to be like Greece, and overnight because of
the political crisis brewing in France, the borrowing costs for
France have hit the same level as Greece for the
first time ever. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
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Speaker 2 (05:48):
Talksp Morning, Mike. Mainstream media is a bit quiet this
morning on the great police response to that gang funeral yesterday.
Well we're not and Mark Mitchell, the police Minister's with
us up to seven thirty fifteen past six Yes, a
business from Definite Punch Management, Greg Smith, morning to you,
Morning to Mike. How about the business confidence it's party time,

(06:09):
we're back.

Speaker 9 (06:10):
Or maybe maybe maybe not yea. There were certainly some positives,
but yeah, this is the am Z Business Outlook Survey.
It was total optimistically brightening and there were some positives,
but yeah, let's look at sort of the headlines. Business
confidence ease one point plus sixty five in November, experienced
own activity that rose a point negative ten though still

(06:31):
past employment that lifted but negative twelve still, so things
are getting slightly better, but from a position of weakness.
So perhaps not champagne corks just yet. Expected own activity
that actually rose to a couple of points, to a
decade high. Export intentions are pretty robust high since twenty eighteen.
That a weaker currency will be having an impact here,
and that's when intentions on the employment likewise particul The

(06:52):
services sector the overall jobs picture is I'm proving a
bit but still negative. So I think really what we're
seeing in Mike as an interest cuts have been put
through already, I'll see another one this week are having
a real impact. But yeah, economy is still clearly really weak.

Speaker 10 (07:07):
But I thought the.

Speaker 9 (07:07):
Really good news was an inflation so business pricing intentions
they fill a couple of points, so forty two percent
of firms expect to raise prices in the next three months,
but the amount by which they intend to raise them
ease to one point six percent, and inflation expectations this
is something that the RBNZ really does look at that
they've eased a lot to two and a half percent,
so we're getting closer to that magic two percent mark.

(07:30):
Wage increases are lower, and then a year ago own
costs pressures are easing. So that's all pretty good news
and I think it'll be welcome by the RBNZ. But
I think it actually does open up the idea, and
we talked about this obviously this week, that inflation could
overshoot on the downside, and am Z makes the somber
point that there is still real pain out there in
difference and snow this and unemployment and business phase are

(07:51):
going to continue to increase with some time. So it
sounds like we need more Rakee cats.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Mike, Yes, it does, Greg, And I don't know where
I've heard that before. Oh, that's right, it's from you,
so for sure. And Michael, I mean how good?

Speaker 11 (08:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (08:03):
I what an absolute cracker from the new zualmd's largest
listed company. So a record half years. Oult revenues up
eighteen percent to nine and fifty one million net profit
that soared forty three percent, they having fifty three million,
so both their two main businesses are on a roll.
So you look at the hospital side residuary revenue, they're
up twenty one percent, so new products and you're also
seeing patient staffing numbers back to sort of pre COVID levels.

(08:25):
And you look at their home care business as well,
so sleep aping and the like, revenues are up fourteen percent.
They were a record sour unveiled new masks this year
and accessories and like, and they're doing very well in
terms of their reception. So that've been about the outlook
revenue guidance for the full year one point nine to
two billion dollars. It will be up on one point
seven last year and net profit of three to twenty

(08:46):
to three to seventy million, they'd be around about eighty
million high and last year at the midpoint the sharing
and sports of shaholders, the dividends up slightly. Now the
shares feul one and a half percent. But just to
put this in context, I've been at record levels themselves
and had a huge run the show yet so they're
up sixty percent year to day. Investers may also be
I suppose having tariffs on their minds, I mean fishing

(09:06):
Pipal Healthy does have factories in China and Mexico. They're
adopting a weight and see approach.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (09:11):
Possibly also a little bit of disappointment guidance wasn't lifted
given how while the company is doing. But yeah, nonetheless,
a fantastic result from our largest company.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And give us a quick word on Ryven's because that
wasn't as good.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
Yes, so just very quickly that the numbers were underwhelming.
They did see a ten percent increase in revenue, but
the feeling the pinch on costs actually saying cash is
going to be negative to fifty to one hundred million
next year. Investors are still a bit worried about the
debt levels and the capital rays. There's still no dividend
and old only Mike. Yeah, they're pushing out retirement village units,
but there's a problem with the ferrals so effectively, when

(09:45):
you've got a weak property market, it takes longer for
incoming residents to sell your homes and then that sort
of has a knock on impacked to Ryman, so like
many others, will also be helping for a pickup in
the property market next year.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But yeah, shares.

Speaker 9 (09:58):
Down six percent on the you stay down around twenty
percent year to date, so in start contrast to Fisher
and Pikele numbers. Please well, the US markets we've had
a break, We've got Thanksgiving, so they are all closed.
But fifty one hundred that was flat in the UK
eight two seven eight, Direct line insurance that sored forty percent.
They're better take over bid there stocks fifty in Europe

(10:18):
that was up half percent, full seven five eight, the
nick As up point six percent, cs I three hundred
and China down point nine percent, ASEX two hundred zero
point six percent. We were down on the NZX fifty
one point two percent, but still about thirteen thoy thirteen
oh five to four, weighed by fishing pikee enryman of
course and gold flat two thousand six and sixty five
and ounce oil down ten cents, sixty eight spots sixty

(10:40):
two currencies. We were down point one percent across the
three ones. Are going to mention so US fifty eight
point nine against ki we a dollar ninety point six
and Stirling forty six point four. And hey, yeah, fingers
closs for black Friday.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
For the retail sector, good stuff mape see next week.
Appreciate at Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management, past power, good
strong bounce back profit. I'm always but circumspect about insurance
companies because of course you and I are paying for
it all. But they lost a million last year. This
year they made seventy four million. Written premiums are up,
so they brought in more money. Lack of large claims
obviously simplified the business. So BottomLine, they'll take it. Six

(11:14):
twenty one, Friday morning on the Mic Asking Breakfast, the.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, powered by
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Speaker 2 (11:27):
It be Mike and know you'll have heaps of text
on adurn and chipping. But for the listener, please, I'd
like to see them lose any honors. I don't think
you're I don't think you're going to see that. I
don't think if you read the report, it and sort
of indicates that that's what's required and the whole thing, unfortunately,
broadly speaking, is a waste of time. We'll talk to
Brook pan Belden, who's driving Phase two and the weird
story around yesterday about how it wasn't going to be

(11:49):
released and how it was released and what actually happened there.
By the way, speaking of health matters, first new treatment
for asthma in over fifty years, so we've got an injection.
It dampens part of the immune system that can go
into overdrive and flare ups and also, by the way,
chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, so does both. This is out
of King's College, London overnight. The drug's a game changer

(12:10):
stems from the realization what they've discovered that not all
asthma attacks are the same. Different parts of the immune
system are overreacting in different patients. So people treat it
with the new therapy less likely to be admitted to
hospital or need another round of treatment or indeed die.
It will revolutionize big word how we treat people when
they're really unwell. So that's encouraging to hear.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
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Speaker 2 (12:39):
Anthony Edwards ant the ant Man. He's one of your
big names in the Minnesota Timberwolls. So we're talking NBA
basketball here. They've just lost to the King Sacramento, fourth
straight loss that puts the mate in ten for the season.
So he's asked, of course, what's gone wrong?

Speaker 12 (12:53):
I mean, when everything going good, we are in let's go,
there's team and and everything go bad and everybody just
you know, come pack me. We don't know what I
did it right now, when me and Mike was talking
about I think it's we soft as hell, like a
team internally, like you know what I mean, like not
to the other team, but like internally like be soft,
like we can't talk to each other. Yeah, it's just

(13:16):
a bunch of little kids. It's just like we're playing
with a bunch of little kids. Like everybody, like the
whole team, we just can't talk to each other, you know.
The coachell the one thing we go out there and
do a whole other thing, like go out there and
like try to manipulate in our mind that be smarter
than the coaches, and everybody got a different agenda.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
I love them.

Speaker 10 (13:33):
So it's like what the bus to say to get
every you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Like, so he's off and run. That's gone viral. Obviously,
speaking of sport, by the way, Will Athletics an are
looking to create a new world championship for the treadmill,
So that's interesting. So they do have rowing into you know,
inside rowing rowing machine. They do have inside cycling, which
is my thing, that's my sport. I'm an inside cyclist.

(13:57):
And so they think there is a thing here for
in door gym equipment. So if there is a thing,
why not do treadmill, which, to be fair, is probably not.

Speaker 13 (14:05):
Unreachin when I treadmill. You like the Okay go video
where they jump from treadmill to treadmill.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
And swap if you want, if you want to do that.

Speaker 13 (14:12):
One give our artistic points.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
I also note this morning, we've got new information. Speaking
of athleticism, we've got new information. See the push up
thing they do. You've got to do x number of
push ups at a certain age, I've always found that
kind of arduous for most people. Most people don't do
push ups, and they are actually quite hard working. You
need to build into them. This morning's numbers and I'll
give them to you later. The number of star jumps
you need to do now. Star jumps to me are

(14:36):
a non event. Star jumps are like nothing. Star jumps.
You could star jump all day, in my humble opinion, which.

Speaker 13 (14:42):
Is not me, isn't it. It's not like you make
your hands connect over you here.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Your hands connect and your legs go. Is it a
coordination thing or is it is a longevity thing. Anyway,
I'll give you all the numbers in a couple of moments.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
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had been.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
We're getting a bit of this, Mike, if you've got
mister Mitchell and congratulated them for taking the gangs on.
They need to be sorted and police neemed to be
sorting them bit by bit. They're just criminals destroying the country.
Well done to the police. Yeah, no, it was I thought,
as I said earlier, I thought it was a fairly
uplifting looking day yesterday. But more on that with Mark later.
Should Addern, Mike and Shippy be arrested for abuse of power?

Speaker 10 (15:24):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (15:24):
No, I don't think they should. But in that in
part lies the problem, because people have fairly cemented views
on what happened to this country and that's no report's
going to change that view. And might I remind you
yet again that during the COVID period we had an
election and my word, you couldn't get enough of a durn.
You couldn't line up. You said that a durn fifty percent.

(15:46):
Remember we want some more where that came from. So
don't give me that now, twenty two minutes away from seven.
You love it at the times and you didn't love it.
I got some public transport ant to Inks this morning.
By the way, Thanksgiving in America, we'll go to Richard Arnold.

Speaker 10 (15:59):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So Public transport ancs MZTA have asked counsels to up
the share they pay for public transport indication. For example,
the bus ticket in the capital could go from ten
bucks a day to seventeen. So an urgent meeting has
required Transport min is to simming in Browns with us
morning to.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
You good morning.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Is this under your instruction that NZTA are doing what they're.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Doing well, The problem that we have asked them to
solve is the fact that over the last six years,
the amount that you used to pay for public transport
or through has gone down from forty percent down to
ten percent. Yes, it's started to increase again. However, what
we're saying to public transport authorities is that we need
to increase the amount that we're achieving through private share,

(16:44):
which includes fears and also third party revenues, and we're
asking them to have clear targets around how they're going
to achieve that. So, yes, we've set clear t we've
set targets, and we are setting targets, but there's a
conversation that's underway around what those targets will be, and
that's what EZTA is leading out up.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
So this is a little bit Trump Esko on the tariff.
So we'll open up with a little something, they'll come back,
we'll meet in the middle, and that's how that works.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Well, I think they've I mean, i'd put it this way,
it's a very lazy approach to just say we have
to increase fears as the only measure. There's a range
of tools that councils have, for instance, increased advertising, increased sponsorship,
corporate fear schemes, renting out space at train stations. There's
lots of different things. And at the moment of the
one point four billion dollars a year it costs to

(17:29):
run out public transport system in New Zealand, less than
one percent is coming from third party revenue. So there
is a huge opportunity to look at all of those
other opportunities to find third party revenue. And by the way,
that keeps pressure down on feares, it keeps pressure down
on rates, and it keeps pressure down on taxpayers who
have to heavily subsidize our public.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Taper that's a third party. Is that just them being
slack or is it them saying I've tried it, but
it's a type market there is no money, or they
going oh yeah, that's a good idea. I hadn't even
thought about it.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Well, to be honest, I think they've tried, and I
think it's a very lazy approach to just say, well,
the only thing we've got year is we have to
increase fear. Is actually there's a range of tools at
the disposal of public transport authorities. You go around and
you look at the number of buses going down the
road with no advertising on them, right across the country,
and you actually have to ask the question, have they
looked at all those leggers? Are they utilizing them? Because

(18:20):
the more money that's raised from where's e gon keeps
pressure down on rates and keeps pressure down on taxes.
So that's what that's the conversation we're having with public
transport authorities, and we're asking them to think more commercially.
The other thing that they need to be looking at
is running a really good operation, an efficient service which
is attractive to customers because the more people that actually

(18:41):
use the service are the more revenue they're able to make.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Okay, very good, but I've got you this is out
of leftfield. Just bear with me. I've got you in
your early thirty so a right correct? Okay, could you
do fifty to sixty star jumps?

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Probably not? I could try. Would you let me to
try it for you right now?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah? I would. What I'm going to do if you can,
we'll go to a break and you do as many
as you can, and when I come back from the break,
we'll see what you got to Okay, okay, okay, okay,
put your phone down and go to it. Simmey and
Brown Transport Minister. This is why we are number one
nineteen to seven.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
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Speaker 2 (19:24):
Ap My every Day and Partners to North to see
big flash buses proudly announced and that I'm one hundred
percent electric, followed by another sign saying sorry, not in service.
It's very good. Right now. Where are we at with Sime?
And how'd you go?

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I managed to get there?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Mike, you sound a bit out of breath, Yeah, a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
I'm probably as said as I've ever been all year. Actually,
thanks to you.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Oh fantastic. So you got to sixty in a hand
on heart and you did proper star jump so you
got to sixty.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yes, and your producer was listening the entire time too.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay to you said you need a glance of water there,
I'm in.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
I think I'll get a coffee if that's okay, You.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Go for a have a I think will being a
good sport and you have a good weekend. Appreciate it
very much. Thanks like take care there we go, Simming
and Brown. I mean, how good's that? I mean that
the default position of cabinet minister to go would you
like me to do that right now? Cannot be underestimated.

Speaker 13 (20:13):
Talk about kekas and fast tracking.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
You can't argue with that, can you? I mean, I
probably could. Would you like to do it now? Not really?
N he was into it. Good on him. He's gold
star for the morning. And we've barely begun sixteen.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
To seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business rich you know.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
In the morning.

Speaker 14 (20:32):
Hey, thanks King Daga, lodymac and you too.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
The prisoner swap that seems to have been coming for
a while now years.

Speaker 14 (20:39):
Yeah, they've been engaged in this secretly for many, many months.
So it's especially happy day for the families of three
Americans who've been set free in this hostage swap today
between the US and China. This is the result, as
I say, of these link negotiations, with the President himself
taking up directly with China's President she during the recent
summit in Peru. So what a moment it was today

(21:01):
when this trio John Rule, ky Lee and Mark Swedan
landed back here after years in custody. They arrived in
Texas and in return for these Americans, three Chinese citizens
were returned to their home country as well. One was
a Chinese intelligence officer, Shu Juan Juan, who has been
serving a twenty year prison term after what was a

(21:22):
pretty dramatic FBI sting operation six years back. The Chinese
spy was arrested in Brussels by the FBI team then
extradited back to the United States. On the American side,
Mark Swedan was held in a Chinese jail on drug
related charger for more than twelve years and at one
point was sentenced by authorities there sentenced to death, so
quite a turnaround in his life. While both Lee and

(21:44):
Leon were charged with espionage, and Lee had been held
for eight years, during which time his son Harris spoke
at a congressional hearing in Washington just weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Every day I wake up, I shudder at the thoughts
of him crammed in that tiny cell with anywhere from
seven to eleven other people.

Speaker 13 (22:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (22:03):
President Biden has made a brief appearance today speaking of
his concerns for the Middle East, including the US hostages
held by Hamas.

Speaker 10 (22:10):
I think with the grease of God.

Speaker 11 (22:12):
And grew and magiss and what we're going to get
some more progress in the mounds.

Speaker 14 (22:15):
Well, hope is eternal, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Meantime?

Speaker 14 (22:20):
Yeah, it is parade Day in New York, Philadelphia and
Detroit and many other cities. This was the start of
the ninety eighth Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, where it's been
raining a little, but millions of people turned out. One
four year old kid said, I like wet, but then
this boy's name is River River Hawley. There was a

(22:41):
brief pro Palestidian protests where some twenty one people were
arrested for briefly blocking the parade floats, but no one
supergloed they closed the road and something last year. I
think that many in this country they feel the need
for a break after this tumultuous season, especially politically. This
is a time for supposedly marking the change seasons. Approach
at Christmas dates back to the Pilgrims in sixteen twenty one.

(23:04):
Three big football games are being played today. It's also
a day for family reunions, with record numbers of flights
people going to family gatherings, which in this political season
might not always be so easy right, given the recent
political clamors. So Leslie Jones of The Daily Show comedy
show gave this advice in part for clamping down on
political chit chat at the family dinner table Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Leslie Jones will come to your house and politely interject
when the conversation becomes political.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
I'm just thankful that Roe v. Wade was finally overturned.

Speaker 12 (23:35):
That's the conversation you want to start right now at
this table while everybody's happy during Thanksgiving?

Speaker 10 (23:40):
Why are we trying to be happy?

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You know what has them dry ass turky?

Speaker 11 (23:44):
The way I see it is your generation are all
a bunch of lazy socialists.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
What did you call them? Lazy?

Speaker 15 (23:51):
You can't even bring proper pie to Thanksgiving?

Speaker 10 (23:54):
And stop kissing the kids in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'll just say these transgender people.

Speaker 14 (24:04):
Yeah, ah, no politics, folks.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Happy Thanksgiving, mate, We'll see you next week. Preciate it.
Richard Arnold, So the games he mentioned, by the way
Lions Bears this morning, that won't be much of a
game because the Bears aren't up to much. Cowboys giants,
that won't be much of a game because the Giants
aren't up to much, and neither, as it turns out,
of the Cowboys, although what uh is he playing? So
Cooper Rush? I was hoping for Trey Lance. The Trey
Lance story is an interesting story. For a while there,

(24:30):
Trey Lance, who is the third string quarterback for the Cowboys,
was going to be San Francisco's next great hope couple
of years ago. Don't have time to tell you the story,
but anyway, it all went pear shaped and he turned
out to be the third string quarterback. Has never played
a game since. He almost could have played a game
today because not only is Dak Prescott injured, but Cooper
Rush is semi injured, which meant that Trey Lance might
have played anyway. The later game is the Packers Dolphins.

(24:52):
That might be worth watching Uber. The feeds in America
are after them. This is the app. If you've got
the app and you sign on to Uber one, there's
more than twenty five million subscribers all over the world.
Thereafter this is this, this whole app. Once you're in,
how do you get out? Thing? Uber goes you get
out in twenty seconds or less. Don't make a big
deal of this, but the FTC says, well and we'll
see it. That's so in investigations underway. Turn away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
The my Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retairement Community News
togs had been but it.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Was a brilliant interview with simm and Brown. What a
delightful talent of thirty three year old, very human and
excellent at his job getting things done. He's going to
go a long way Star jumps Asidemke. You can see
there's a young man there who wants to get things
done and is prepared to have a go. He won't
always get it right, but he's trying. Future PM material
desperately needed to buy New Zealand Morning, Mike. My wife
and I need to go to Parmeston North urgently. How
can hear in New Zealand justify a charge of twenty

(25:43):
seven hundred and ten dollars returned from Funger Ray Dave.
We checked that out because even for a defender of
a New Zealand like my good self, I thought that
sounds a bit steep, so we checked it out. We've
got you for twenty two hundred dollars. Depends on where
you go and how and all that sort of stuff.
But we want you we were going today and then
coming back Sunday. We assume that's what you mean by
urgent twenty seven hundred dollars. How can they justify it?

(26:06):
Because they're the only player in town, and because everyone
else who tries to be an airline in general in
this country doesn't necessarily do well because we're a country
at the bottom of the world of five million people.
Because they don't have any engines, because they got half
their planes on the ground and they can't move them.
Because they issued a warning the other day about profit,
they're not making as much profit because of the price
of jet fuel because they can how's that for a

(26:27):
series of answers. No, I know you're not happy, but
I'm just giving you a reality check. Five minutes away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
All the ins and the ouse. It's the fiz with
business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Well, a survey this morning that tells us our companies
who want to expand overseas are being blocked from doing
so because of compliance costs. Surveys from WYS deals with
SMEs SMEs. They found thirty percent of the smee's are
already operating overseas will have plans to expand. Of those
with plans, forty two percent, so they're being held back
by the cost of international payments. Forty one percent say

(27:02):
they struggle with regular tree compliance complexities. Forty percent. You
should have seen our eighteen year old yesterday. She's got
a job and she's got to sign a contract, and
we were working through what a contract is, how a
contract works, what taxes, what withholding taxes. It was the
best fun ever. Forty percent say it's a struggle simply.
I won't get her on too. I hope she's not

(27:22):
looking to expand overseas, because it can tell you that's
going to blow her mind. Forty percent say it's a
struggle simply because of where we are in the world
compared with where the main overseas markets are. Part of
that comes with international banking services while here in New Zealand,
and also the high costs involved with all of that,
and because of these international costs forty one percent, so
they've increased the price of what they sell. Twenty eight

(27:43):
percent so they've dropped the amount that they can pay staff,
and thirty six percent have reduced the amount they can
invest in the business. That's a good pay negotiation. Look,
I'd love to pay you more, but have you seen
the price of international banking that I can't do it.
I'd love to pay you more, but account anyway, So
what are these international fees? Well, the irony is most
people don't know fifty two percent, so they've got absolutely
no idea what they're paying for. What an excellent business model?

(28:10):
On average a third we'll spend about five thousand dollars
on international payment fees, and thirty nine percent it will
spend more than five thousand dollars. He me ask you
this question. A lot of people accuse me of being
a snob. Hard to believe, I know, But say I
say to you on the radio this morning, I'm going
to go and buy a bottle of wine today and
I'm going to spend six hundred bucks. You're immediately going

(28:32):
to go, what sort of world are you living in?
You ponts, aren't you?

Speaker 13 (28:37):
Now? You took the words right out of my mouth precisely.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So, the average person today, allegedly according to price wise,
is going to spend six hundred dollars on Black Friday. Now,
if you go and spend your six hundred dollars on
average on crap and look at it, just in a
pile of crap. And I've gone and board a six
hundred dollars bottle of wine, and I'm going to open
that tonight and thoroughly enjoy at least some of it.

(29:01):
And if my wife's out all of it. Now, who's
the winner here? Am I a snob for spending six
hundred dollars on something really good that I'll enjoy and
we'll get something back from Or are you the winner
because you just found a whole lot of really useless
crap from third world countries that you can spread about
the place, probably lose half of it'll break, and the

(29:22):
other half you'll forget all about who's the winner?

Speaker 13 (29:24):
I feel like there might be a happy medium in
there where some people just you know, really make a
dent in their Christmas shopping.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Okay, that's just I'm just in flying a few ideas
around the place.

Speaker 13 (29:35):
You're giving a good deal on that bottle, by the.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Way, could be maybe not.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's Black Friday, setting the news agenda and digging into
the issues. The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover.
The la designed to intrigue and use.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Togs'd be only seven past seven. So the government did
release the COVID report despite any number of indications they
were not going to. So we've got a lot of pages,
a lot of recommendations. Will it make a jot of
difference next time around? Form a treasury set. Gregory National
Health Board member in New Zealand Initiative senior fellow these days,
Doctor Murray horns with us Murray morning, good morning mart
If this was it, in other words, we weren't doing
phase two? Is it comprehensive enough?

Speaker 11 (30:12):
I don't think so, and I think it misses some
big points. I think my view of it is at
a fairly and I've only read this summary, okay, so
I haven't read the full in how many other pages
it is, but I think it's quite a generous assessment
of what went on, and I think it misses a
couple of really big points. The first point I would

(30:33):
make is that it doesn't really pick up the fact
that the damaged done to the economy and to people's
trust in government and so on and so on was
more It was more serious than it needed to be,
because the public health response was weaker than it should
have been, and Secondly, I think you know, clearly we

(30:57):
overdid the stimulus, right, the government overdid this somewhere, and
we're paying for that now, and we'll pay for that
in terms of higher levels of debt, more inflation, the
recessions that need to be that we're going through to
try and get that inflation down. So you know the
fact that you know New Zealand the economy seemed to
bounce back strongly, Yeah, well it's got to help.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
That's what happens when you print money.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
Yeah, it's right, and yeah, and and you run up debt.
So you know, I think that there's a there's a
there's an important lesson there that we could have had
less locked fewer, fewer lockdowns, less severe lockdowns of the
public health response had have been had it been better.
And I'm thinking there about things like better testing, contact tracing,

(31:46):
you know, improving the health system's ability to cope. Using
private partners with their expertise, that we tend to help
a whole lot of things that we should have been doing.
And even though we were badly prepared to begin with,
we didn't seem to learn much as we met went along,
And I think that brings us to My second point,

(32:08):
and probably the biggest missing of the looking forward part
of it, is that the politicization of the execution of
the strategy led to the lack of adaptation and agility
in response. So you know, they come out and pick
up a couple of points at Deave Gorman and I
made eighteen months ago about the need for mosses put

(32:31):
scenario planning and all that sort of thing and getting
ourselves in better shape for the next one. But plans
don't you know, there's a whole saying and wars and
the plans don't survive the first contact with the enemy.
So yes, you've got to have plans. You've got to
do that scenario thing. Good good suggestions that they've made,

(32:52):
picked up the suggestions I made eighty months ago, and
better use of the private sector as we do for
you know, farms and biosecurity farms to protect their farms inside.
But look, you don't get any of those things if
the government takes over the execution wants to claim that

(33:15):
the best in the world, and monopoly untruth has spin
on everything, marginalized criticism and monopolized execution, which is what
they did, and none of that, none of that sort
of chest beating and propagandizing is conducive to admitting shortcomings,
to learning from them, to adapting your response, so you know,

(33:36):
it leads to a sort of add or you know
where we got to a sort of a fear based
at or cross type approach, which which excludes you know,
the private sector, which which which doesn't emit error and
learn from them.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Exactly. It's exactly what we came to. And I just
wanted to murray whether we actually needed to report because
most of us came to that conclusion sometime ago. Of course,
all by ourselves, didn't we, Murray Horn are good to
having won the program eleven past seven past get Change
in the workplace. Cabinets agreed that if we earn more
than one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a year, you
won't be able to raise an unjustified dismissal claim. It's
interesting this, what's it about a workplace relation safety? Minister

(34:12):
Brook van Belden's with us, Brook morning.

Speaker 16 (34:14):
Good morning mate, Just.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Real quick on the COVID thing, given you're in charge
of face too. The story I read Minister to sit
on COVID Royal Commission report for months as reported by
a newsroom, and everyone ran with that. You weren't supposed
to release it yesterday and you did. How did that
all play out?

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (34:32):
Look, Mike, I think this really comes down to what
I hear a lot of, which is a trust and media.
This is just a classic example. Many many months ago,
newsroom approached an office that wasn't mine and asked what
I was going to do with the report. Someone in
that office who didn't know me said I was going
to sit on it till twenty twenty six, and newsroom
ran with that. And you know, sometimes miss information can

(34:55):
go circle the globe a few times before it actually
comes back to you.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Did you come back? Any of you go wrong? Corrected?

Speaker 16 (35:03):
We did, and they did actually publish a correction, but
then was up there the concusion was laid. But I've been,
you know, for the last months or so, definitely going
to release it as.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
You should have, because it's ours after all. Now, right,
this business? What's the point of this? So if you
were one hundred and ninety thousand dollars, you can opt in.
I note so, But but what's the point.

Speaker 16 (35:28):
So what it is here is it's really paving the
way for the next generation of leadership. You know, one
of the classic cases of grievance I hear from business
is you want to take a chance on someone, but
you're too afraid something goes wrong. How on earth it
will all work out? And so what this says is,
you know, you've got someone in the workforce who's maybe

(35:49):
quite skilled, got a good attitude, but if you push
them up to that next leadership level into management, you know,
if it doesn't work out and they aren't a good fit,
this allows you to move on. I think that's really
positive for the next generation coming through. So the other
part of this is I'm sure there'll be many people
listening who have worked with a manager who has led

(36:10):
to poor productivity, low morale, and the boss and the
workers are just sitting there waiting for this person for
years and years to want to move on, and this
will boost productivity and culture within our workplaces.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
The one eighty is tied to the top tax rate.

Speaker 16 (36:25):
I take that's right, but it will only be for
the first year because then it will be indexed with
wage growth. What we're not aiming for here is that
in twenty years time, when wages have continued to grow,
everybody's been captured by this, but it is for the
top earners. It's around three point five percent of New
Zealand's workforce.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Good stuff, you have a good week. I appreciate it,
Brook van Velden. Quite a bit of reaction to my
six hundred dollars bottle of wine. Can I just with
the record say there is no six hundred dollar bottle
of wine. It was a theoretical exercise. If you're going
to spend six hundred dollars, want to spend it on
and experience or crap anyway more fourteen past the.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
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Speaker 2 (37:08):
Lease Minister Mark Mitchell after seven thirty two and Cady
after righte seventeen past seven research from our are you
really Surprised? File? Seventy three percent of online booze orders
are being delivered without ID being checked. In some instances,
it's arriving on the doorsteps within seventeen minutes. Alcohol Health
Watch executive director Andrew Galloway is with us on this.

Speaker 11 (37:26):
Andrew, good morning, Bording, Mike, carry you.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Very well, thank you. Seventeen minutes is actually good because
if you tried using a caurier lately. It's a miracle.

Speaker 11 (37:35):
Well, you could look at it from a customer zero
station perspective.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
So exactly seventy three percent. See, I got Booze to
the house ID and actually other people did, but Booze
came to the house this a number of times. Because
we're doing Christmas shopping, right, no one checks, and to
expect them to check as delusional, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (37:52):
Look? Alcohol is in New Zealand's my typical drug, so
I think we just need to look at it from
their perspective as well. When the sale unsplored alcohol like
twenty twelve was developed, it was developed for a brick
and more mortar style licensing arrangement. During COVID, one of
the other I know we're talking a lot about COVID
to day, but during over one of the things that

(38:14):
grew quite rapidly was home delivery. For obvious reasons. When
in Lockdown's almost one in five reported using online delivery
for alcoulture and COVID, It's understandable, but that trend to
keep he delivery and continue delivery is health continued. So
I think when we look at some of these results
seventy three percent of alcohol. Like you say, whether it

(38:35):
without age verification forty nine percent left contact list at
the door. While you could say that's pragmatic, we do
have really high harms from alcohol nine hundred mon deaths
per year, twenty nine thousand hospitalizations, one hundred and thirty
thousand acc claims. So it's not without alcohol and it's
not an ordinary commodity, always saying really, the recommendation from

(38:58):
this is we probably need to lot the regulations with
developed But.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
How would you do that though, because it's like going
online and ordering in the first place. Are you over eighteen? Click? Yes,
whether you are or not. It's like the Australians thinking
they're going to ban under sixteen year olds from social media.
Are you over sixteen? Yes? Click? You can't get around it.

Speaker 11 (39:18):
Correct. It's not a full proof system with a quick
box online. And I went on one remote delivery site
last night and it just is if you order, we
assume that you are. So it's I think they have
done it in many states in Australia, neighboring jurisdiction put
time delays on when it is delivered. What we do

(39:39):
know from delivery alcohol is that it can extend a
drinking session. People can drink more than they intended too,
and android heavs. So I think there can be some
simple things done just through a bit of regulation that
can produce some of those those harms.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Okay, Andrew, appreciate it very much. Andrew Galloway, Alcohol Health
Watch executive Director, You're not a snob mark buying a
six hundred dollars bottle of wine. Reiteration, I didn't buy one.
It's theoretical you're a snob for calling my six hundred
dollars purchase crap. What it was I had in mind
is a series of things you purchased for six hundred
dollars seventeen fifty here, twenty three, ninety five over there,

(40:16):
eighteen sixty three over there, and just a collection of rubbish.
That's what I'm trying to do. I'm just trying to
paint a picture in your mind as to the value
of expenditure. Mic, some of your Black Friday stuff may
end up in the rubbish bin, but all yours is
going to end up down the Duney John, interesting question
and point, But what about the experience of it? If
you love wine, if you're a wine collector and say,

(40:36):
with your six hundred dollars Black Friday money, you buy
something you never thought you'd ever have, and you experience that,
and you remember that for the rest of your life.
That's not down the toilet at all, Isn't It isn't
the experience of value as well?

Speaker 9 (40:49):
Well?

Speaker 13 (40:49):
What if you're a shopping enthusiast and you get a
buzz out of buying Star one hundred percent?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
And how do you think retail works for me? Six
twenty one.

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eighteen bet responsibly seven twenty four. Time now to mark
the week. Little piece of using current events that draws
a bigger crowd than I show speed are the war
six As far as a reason for hope, not a
lot of that has been floating about the place recently.
The UK election petition four small clue they already had
one of those. It's called an election can to sign

(42:09):
three hiding hiding behind an Australian excuse shows a lack
of gonutes. The COVID inquiry for are because the coverage
of what I would argue was as big a deal
as anything this year was was scant to say the
least Capital gains tax six. The debate and the vote
this weekend tell you what if Labour want to enhance
their chances off two, if not three terms in opposition.

(42:31):
Yes is the way to vote the coalition first year
seven some good progress, some good cooperation, not a lot
of fallout, but lacking the real bite that has needed
to turn the shambles around. Must try harder. TJ. Perrinarra four.
We didn't talk about the game or the tour, and
that's why it was a problem. Cadillacs seven number eleven

(42:54):
and f one growing every year. It's a sporting model
to follows Sport New Zealand's review though seven clearly the
government smells wastage, not a model to follow the ocr
six because it was the least they could do given
how they've wrecked the joint Black Friday three. Look, I'll
give you forty bucks forty bucks off your next purchase
if you never mention it again. Adele four. Hello, when

(43:18):
you get exhausted working Fridays and Saturdays only, you might
want to have a look at your work ethic Dei six.
Another employer this week, Walmart, because the employer in the
world actually says that that particular bad nightmare is over.
Isn't it funny how these things are so critical until
they out Karmela one.

Speaker 11 (43:34):
Don't you ever let anyby take your power from you.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I mean, honestly, I don't normally side with social media,
but the pile one is spot on. She looks crazy.
And that is the week copies on the website. And
if you listen carefully, two lines from last week's edition
of this have made it into the fortieth anniversary edition
of Feed the World, asking Mike, the tat and the
burn is nowhere near as environmentally friendly as one down
the duney. That is so true. And the bottle is recyclable.

(43:58):
See now you're on board, my well said, I thoroughly
enjoyed my a five wagu steak from a restaurant. I
think it was about three hundred dollars just for the steak.
I still think about it to this day. See now
you're with me. You're exactly right, Mike. It's much better
to spend money on experience like food and wine than
cheap junk. Mike, what is the wine Burgundy or Bordeaux?
There is no wine, Phil That Bordeau would be your

(44:21):
answer if I was going down there.

Speaker 13 (44:22):
It's a particular one.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
It's a particular one year Pavey little party, Pa vie,
look it up if you want to go crazy. Mike,
the discussion with Brooke on one hundred and eighty K
didn't actually tell us what the change means. I thought
it didn't. If it didn't, I apologize essentially what it means.
If you're at the upper echelons of employment, in other words,
you're earning big money, they can put you into the
job and it's kind of like the ninety day trial

(44:44):
period for starters. It's like, mate, we put you in there,
we thought you were going to be good. You turned
out to be a dickhead. You got to go and
instead of me going, what, I'm brilliant, I'm going to
take a trip. You know you can't do that. That's
how it just means it's easier to move the people
that don't want me more on, and the easier that is,
the better as far as I'm concerned. Mark Mitchell, Good

(45:05):
Day in the Bay is with as up of the News,
which is next.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
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Speaker 2 (45:21):
Toks Head be, Mike, it would be great if the
one eighty k extends to politicians on a bed point Mark, Mike,
I've always wanted a jute box, such a cool thing
to have in my music room. Rosie, buy one life
short morning. Mike's same reason for many of us spending
thousands of dollars traveling to Europe every year for a
bike ride. It's for the experience. I take your point, Mike.
I think a good analogy for the six hundred dollars
bottle of wine, which I'm on board with, by the way,

(45:42):
because the experience is almost certainly worth it. As a
concert ticket, I love going to concerts while living overseas,
but gigs in New Zealand four the big name extra
and extortionate prices, but I can't believe people will pay,
but they do. It's a very good point. You buy
a couple of tickets to a concert, you' boot well
over six hundred dollars twenty three minutes away from eight
come Tim Katie late, of course. Meantime, Big Gay in
the Babe of the Coppers as a large number of

(46:03):
gang members turn up for another one of their funerals.
As time under new laws around gangs. Of course, fourteen
arrests were made. An old woman I saw yelled at
the police there for a while that overall it seemed
a lot more contained than say a potoguy last year.
The Minister of Police, Mark Mitchell's.

Speaker 10 (46:16):
Back with us.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Morning mate, Good morning Mike. That Tim Anderson bloke, he's
the goods.

Speaker 17 (46:21):
Yeah, he's an outstanding district commander and yeah, I agree
with you completely, very proactive out on the street, engaged
with his front line, sort of leading from the front,
and that's what we need.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I don't want to make this too political, but I
look at somebody like him talking. He seems to have
a spring in his step. In other words, what he's
doing now is policing the way he wants to police,
and you've given him the laws to do that. Is
that fair?

Speaker 17 (46:49):
I can't talk for but what I would say is
that just about every police officer that I know has
joined the police to keep the public safe, and when
they've given the tools and the ability to be able
to do that, then they'll respond. And that's what scene.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
How much did you get yesterday? Somebody said there was
a sawn off shotgun? Was there a bit of that
about the place.

Speaker 17 (47:06):
Yeah, there were firearms, illegal firearms that were recovered. I
don't know the exact number, but yes, without doubt they
were illegal forums.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
How is it that under the new laws that I'm
assuming they know about, Maybe they don't, But they turn
up to a funeral with some guns in their cars,
knowing the police are going to be there, What do
they think is going to happen?

Speaker 17 (47:27):
Well, you know exactly.

Speaker 14 (47:28):
You know.

Speaker 17 (47:29):
That's the whole point is that if they want to
go like most kiwis do, if they go into a
funeral or a tonguey, they do it in a respectful way,
then you won't have any contact with the police. But
if you choose to come out, take over public roads,
abuse and timidate people carry illegal firearms, then you know
that the police are going to make sure the rest
of the public are safe. And that's exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Are they buy and large cooperative the gangs now that
they know.

Speaker 17 (47:54):
What there's been a very high level of compliance, so
they are the gangs are actually trying to respond. I
think fundamentally they don't want to draw attention to themselves,
certainly the leaders that they're running the organized crime groups.
So there has been a high level of compliance. You're
probably going to get some of the younger ones that

(48:16):
aren't thinking too much about it that we'll try and
you know that won't comply. But the police will respond
to that. And we've seen the strong response from our police.
I've listened for the last twelve months the narrative and
the media being that our police aren't strong enough and
they're not capable of Dean of the gangs. The gains
are too strong. You've seen a clear response from the
police in the last week on that they're doing an

(48:36):
outstanding job.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
While I've got you this rapid review report that's floating
around that says that you can, you know, kill your
five hundred extra cops, promise and you'll save some money.
But what's the point of a review like that in
the sense that I could tell you that if you
didn't hire five hundred people you would save money.

Speaker 17 (48:53):
Yeah, no, I think that. Obviously the Treasury have done
a rapid review and they'll come forward with some recommendations.
It doesn't mean that those recommends will be acted upon.
And we've committed to the additional five hundred police officers
and that's a firm commitment and we're well on track
to delivering those right.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
The five hundred is that now that you're in charge.
Is the five hundred because they're actually needed or is
the five hundred a political thing that you said at
the time.

Speaker 17 (49:17):
No, you can always look, you can always have more
police officers on the front line without a doubt, and
they'll be they'll be welcome with open arms. And you
know we're doing things like increasing visibility with beat teams.
We've got our gang disruption units, so you know they
will be welcoming the stations and it's a good commitment.
And the great thing is we've got a really strong
pipeline of people wanting to join the police good and

(49:40):
will and we're will on track for delivering.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Mat Go well, have a good weekend. See Mark Minchell,
police minister with us this morning. It is nineteen minutes
away from a subjected gangs not the gangs as we know,
but it's different sort of gangs. If you want a
bit of reading over the weekend, this ongoing union slash
gang problem in Australia. The headline that got me in
I got it's a philly, lengthy old piece. It was
under the headlines Bike's run a muck in the CFMEU

(50:05):
and they're not going to leave quietly. They were getting
to guard a site. So what's happened If you haven't
followed it, and it's well worth reading, it's just unbelievable.
Everything that's been built in Australia is cost extra because
the unions are run by gangs. And so there was
an empty site and the lads from the union slash

(50:25):
gang members said, don't worry, we'll look after that site
and no problem for you. Four thousand dollars a day
and I want free sevlaki and they got it. And
that's just how it works in Australia. So read the
article Bike's run a muck in the CFMEU and they're
not going to leave quietly. It's unbelievable. Eighteen to eight The.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
News Talks at.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Brid to tell your coffee prices on the futures market.
Currently there are two lots of futures markets. One is
in London and they deal with the I always I can't.
I don't know why I always struggle to say the
word Arabica. Why do I always struggle to say that anyway.

(51:09):
Arabica beans they deal with that. They're they're at up
four point seven percent, three twenty three a pound. They
do it. And in London they do deal with the
robust beans. They're up seven point seven percent at fifty
five hundred dollars a ton. So, in other words, they've
never seen prices like this before. Obviously, the climate and
the EU rules around deforestation mean that your coffee is

(51:31):
getting more and more expensive.

Speaker 13 (51:32):
Have you considered growing your own on your estate? Getting
into coffee? Now that you.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
It's you probably thought that was a silly question, but
it's not actually because I don't think I can. Because
I've just got my current avocado tree that we've got
planted three lost two so that's now going well. And
so the next thing is how much further down the
track to I experiment? Do I do coffee? Do I
do cherries? These things I am thinking about at the moment.

Speaker 13 (52:01):
I'd be more keen on coffee than Yeah, I would
be too personally. But a coffee seed's a lot more
useful than a cherry stone.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That's very true. Did you see the program Mike on
Saint James's and the amazing shops in London. Funnily enough,
I did, and not only I saw it advertised and
I thought, do you know what that could be a
bit of me? And I recorded it and I watched
a little bit of it yesterday afternoon when I got
home from the hairdresser. And if you didn't see it,
it's on TV one, which I assume means it's on
TV and said streaming, and they need all the help
they can get, so watch that this afternoon and it's

(52:31):
just lovely London, and it's shot in summer clearly, and
he wanted Saint James is that area of German Street,
Saint James's itself, that whole area that sort of Piccadilly
down to Saint James's Palace. It's absolutely beautiful, Mike, do
you get a bit of quality hangover seats? But a
lot of people you're talking about hangover, you don't drink

(52:53):
wine for hangovers. And it's a well known fact that
some of you, if you're dealing with the expense of
bottles of wines from France, the alcohol content's a lot lower.
And people didn't know that originally when Claret was sort
of made many many years ago, and you're going back
to the seventeen hundreds. It was all shipped out in barrels.
They didn't bottle it, and the poms got into it,
and the pom said, we need some good plant. Where

(53:13):
do we get the plank from? I know, We'll go
to the French. They make some good stuff. And you
can go back to Hope Bonne and La Tour with
the original claret producers back in the seventeen hundreds, and
it came out in big wooden barrels and they served
it in pubs and stuff like that, and it was
around eleven twelve percent alcohol, which is completely different to
some of the sixteen percent as you're getting out of
places like South Australia today in the Chiraz department, Mike,
if you watch by Now on Netflix. I haven't, but

(53:36):
I'm wondering whether it's a bit earnest. So much crap produced,
so much crap that can't be fixed or recycled, Apple
producing earbuds and batteries that can't be changed, commercialism gone mad.
There is a lot of that, which is sort of
one of the underlying things I'm trying to point out
this morning. And we're going to talk more about Black
Friday in a moment. But if you're going to spend money,

(53:57):
the quality of the spend is the critical now Number one.
I would argue that if you get genuine pleasure and
enjoyment from the expenditure, then who cares what it is?
But then the next step is how long is it
going to last? Can you pass it on to somebody else?
Is it repairable? Is it a fad or is it
a long term obsession of your See, there's a lot

(54:18):
that goes into it, and most people don't work all
of that. They just go, oh, it's cool, I'll buy that.

Speaker 13 (54:23):
See if I spend all my six hundred dollars on
the high alcohol shirazzes that you were talking about, sure,
then very quickly I won't be worried about any of
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Could be burther that it is. Let's talk more about
Black Friday in a moment. Eleven away from it.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
The my costly repasts with the Range River, the last news.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Top ele minutes away from it. I'm not sure if
you're aware of it, but it's Black Friday. It feels
like it's been Black Friday, of course for about a
year and a half. Increasingly Black Friday, though Cyber Monday
at playing an outsize role in this retail sector of ours.
Price spy. As I've said this morning, you're expecting the
average person to spend about six hundred bucks today. Retail
New Zealand Boss Carol and Young is with us CA
and very good morning.

Speaker 18 (55:00):
To you, Mona, Mike, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Thank you? How much of Black Friday is just noise
and how much of it's real in terms of what
it needs to do for you know, your average shopkeeper
absolutely real.

Speaker 18 (55:12):
You know, we're in that time of year when sales
are critical and it's become a really key focus for
that real postion to that Christmas period. So now it's
an absolute key marker for retail in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Do you have like do you send out an email
to your to your members to go, hey, guys, don't
do specials that aren't specials? Is that a thing all
that sort of beyond you?

Speaker 18 (55:37):
Well, we always talk about making sure that you are understanding,
you know, how you're advertising and ensuring that you're complying
with the Consumer Guarantees Act and the Fair Trading Act
implicit underlying things that businesses.

Speaker 11 (55:49):
Need to comply to right.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
What about the sectors within the sectors? Who does well
on Black Friday versus other people are in a sector
that you know makes no difference.

Speaker 18 (56:00):
I think, you know, food and growthroy fuel, those sort
of sectors are probably you know, it doesn't make a
significant difference in those sort of spaces. But you will have,
you know, areas within sectors where stores really go hard
out with a key headline special to get people in
store that they'll buy that item and then they'll come

(56:22):
across and get some others. And there's a couple of
different strategies. You'll have noticed stores during this yere Some
are really focused on the five days between Thursday and
Monday this week, and others have been on sale for
a couple of weeks, and different strategies are working for
different stores. But speaking to some retailers this week that
have been on sale for a week or so, said,
you know, next year, actually we'll probably just do the

(56:43):
shortened period because it's you know, it's just an elongated
period of time where you're making the same number of sales.
So they want to concentrate really and get people focused
so that people come in during that time.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
What's your vibe on the appetite for spending. Do you
think we're into it.

Speaker 18 (56:59):
I think it's next, Really, I do think it's next, Mike.
There's some people that have senior disposed of income and
you know, their appetite spend is the same as it's
always been. But we know a lot of people are
doing it hard. We look at the numbers. You know,
retailers are often about discretionary spend and it's been a
really tough couple of years for consumers and retailers and

(57:23):
so that it's really tough out there. So I think
people you know, do like to go to the shops
and they do like to buy things. It's about, you know,
what can they afford to buy. But it's a really
good time for people to be thinking about, you know,
the Christmas shopping and gifts for far now and it's good,
good opportunity to get something on sale.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Iber goes wealth. You Carolyn, appreciate it, Carolyn Young Retail,
New Zealand. Of course five minutes away from it. Order
a cherry tree now, Mike, They're in high demand. We
missed out last year. Top tip. I'm too far north. Unfortunately,
you should go to Weaponay and do the martinsend on tour.
I going to mate who did that, said it was fantastic.

Speaker 10 (57:57):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
The funny thing about the Saint James's program was a
staff member at Piccadilly Vaults is a dead ring it
to our minus for finance. Bob, You're one hundred percent right,
and wasn't Piccadilly Volts as a shop extraordinary? Just amazing, Mike,
you're too far north for cherry.

Speaker 11 (58:11):
See.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
I told you I was. You didn't need to text that.
I already knew that because I just said it on
the radio. Mike, I think you need two avocado trees.
You're right, But Carol, what you got to understand is
we had two avocado trees and one died, and then
we planted another one and that died too. So then
we've suddenly got the one that's come back to life.
So we've got that on in the intensive care and
so once we get that up and running, then we'll

(58:32):
do the second one, because you need a pair to
produce the fruit. Of course, Mike, I was thinking about
you when I watched that television program. Is that where
you bought your shoes for the coronation? Yes, it is
that Saint James's area is actually technically on Sable Row,
which I don't think technically is in Saint James the Square,
but it's in the same area.

Speaker 13 (58:47):
It's just a good place to buy six hundred dollar
bottles of wine.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You can buy a six hundred dollars bottle of wine
in that it was particular in that particular part of London.
Glent very good. You buy a nice cigar, a bottle
of wine, a fantastic six set of shoes and some
antiques and you can, you know, and you can go
get your your your go Triffet and Hill and have
a shave. I'll charge one hundred and six pounds for
a shave at Truefitt and Hill, oldest oldest barber in

(59:13):
the world.

Speaker 13 (59:13):
I'll do it for less.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Will you do that for less? See, I wouldn't trust
you with the blake. Thank Jim and Katie. In a
couple of moments after the news, here a news talk.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
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to Mike Costing, breakfast with a Veda, retirement, communities, life
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Speaker 4 (59:41):
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Speaker 15 (59:49):
You said for Firth sis.

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Speaker 2 (59:55):
This is pretty good. I quite love this.

Speaker 10 (59:58):
This has Shawn me.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Very much like his bells times working hard because I
see here he's coming back from an extended hiatus. But
this is only his fourth album, so clearly after four
albums is a bit warm out. We hadn't heard anything
since twenty twenty in wonder believe he does and Blee
won't play it because Glinn's like that a version at

(01:00:23):
the end of Hallelujah as a mina Cohen And I'd
like to hear that, but I'm not going to, of course.
My life is not my own. It is eight minutes
past eight.

Speaker 8 (01:00:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
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solutions to the table just winded up.

Speaker 15 (01:00:46):
One of the great songs at the time was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
That it absolutely is stopped.

Speaker 10 (01:00:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
That's Good's you remember we went Haitie to see Leonard Cohen?

Speaker 15 (01:01:09):
Phenomenal?

Speaker 10 (01:01:10):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Where was that at the concert hall? You didn't come
round to our place. He doesn't come around anymore, but so.

Speaker 15 (01:01:19):
Hey he might if you're pouring out a bit of
that six hundred dollars on. Hey, very rare for me
to come to your defense on wine expenditure, because you
know it's a contentious part of our relationship. But I
feel the need to defend you this wanting people. You
should never comment on what other people want to spend
their money on. Some people buy lotto tickets, some people
buy drugs, some people, by constant tickets, will travel a lot.

(01:01:40):
You don't do any of those things. So if you
want to work hard and put six hundred dollars of
your well and money towards something you will thoroughly enjoy,
why why try to justify that to people who will
never understand it, you know.

Speaker 19 (01:01:52):
But here's the point point, Kate, was that was making
this riping on what people were spending their money on.
You're wasting your money, You're blying your dough on seventeen
fifty crap from TMU blah blah blahud how about my
six hundred dollars bottle of wine? And he knew he
was lobbying at Grenade at the time, weren't you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
No, I wasn't what I was doing. What clearly happened
with my comment was I was I was introducing a
level of sophistication that some people couldn't quite cope with
on a Friday morning. And that was just when you
get home from your six hundred dollars, Because there are
many instances in life when we would spend six hundred
dollars and all I did was based on fact. And
the factor is apparently each and every one of us,

(01:02:32):
on average, is going to spend today six hundred dollars.
So how much thought goes into it? And when you've
done it? If I turned up with a bottle of
wine and went, there's what I bought, you go, what
a moron? Where see the boss came in Jason, who's
not the most sophisticated tool in the drawer, and he
comes in. Now that's a guy. That's a guy who
goes out and spends six hundred dollars without even blinking

(01:02:53):
on lotto. I'm not on lotto on lego? Right, yeah, no,
there's nothing well, not spending your six hundred dollars on lego.
But he buys his lego blocks and he makes his
rocket and then he packs it down and then he
puts it in the ceiling, never to be seen again.

Speaker 15 (01:03:08):
So what wasson saying does he not, does he? Do
you know what he called me?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
He called me a word that starts with W.

Speaker 15 (01:03:14):
Yeah, I know that, I'm sure. But here's the thing.
I actually found it refreshingly honest until you started apologizing
for it and saying it wasn't true, which I think
we all know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 19 (01:03:26):
And also, not only have I had people at the
city that's the other issue.

Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
Not only have I had people demanding to know which
particular bottle of wine he's been talking about, and of
course it was just a hypothetical bottle of wine, and
then they said, is that the name of it hypothetical?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
I've also had.

Speaker 13 (01:03:43):
People now asking me what the type of chiers is
that I'm buying, dear, it's.

Speaker 19 (01:03:50):
Actually as it's a type of wine called chateau W
word that ends in R and you can obtained.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Here's a very good point top text. You're king Charles
shoes are a case in point, aren't they. That's right,
So those shoes.

Speaker 15 (01:04:06):
Could ue I mean some people I understand because I've
been one of those people who view it and go,
but that's so much money to be on something you're
just going to drink like it's just it's gone. Your
shoes you can wear again and again and again. Do
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
And so I understand that you place right, and you
should listen to Matt's. You shouldn't listen to that Matt
guy on the afternoon show because I was driving into
the hairdresser's third Thursday, two o'clock and I was listening
to their show and Matt was talking about the value
of experience, and so, yes, the wine is gone, but
the experience isn't.

Speaker 10 (01:04:39):
Okay, But it's the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Just the wine is the experience beyond it's the time
walking place.

Speaker 19 (01:04:46):
And walking out to the avocado tree and reciting a
pole to her as you plant the wine to her.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
I think it's to him. I think that's part of
the problem. You're looking when you're looking at looking for peers.
I think that's PA bought now Here we Go, bought
a one thousand dollars bottle of wine when coming back
to New Zealand from Singapore, got a meal at Michael's
restaurant in High Street. Christ Duchu Chateau Lafitte, nineteen seventy two.

(01:05:12):
You only live with us, you see, So all of
those years later that they remember exactly now. Next story,
guess who I had dinner with at Michael's restaurant? Who
tell you? After the break thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
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The Weekend Review with two degrees fighting for fear for
Kiwi business.

Speaker 11 (01:05:39):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Many years ago, Mike I got drag kicking and screaming
to Epinay for a monch and on tour. I was
a non drinker. It was the highlight though, of a
three month European tour. You can't argue with that. Mike
popping in ninety six to mo two tonight, it's going
to be superb pairing with some Lambshanks see Tomto's a
very nice wine out of why Hecky. In case you
don't know, Mike, I buy a thousand dollars a bottle

(01:06:00):
of wine every quarter and have done so for the
last ten years for doing well for myself and I
totally get your point. VJ. Four thousand dollars bottles of
wine per year for ten years. He's got forty bottles
of a thousand dollars bottles of wine?

Speaker 19 (01:06:19):
Can we actually you know what you experience as though
they're actually free because you go Simeon Brown an experience
at twenty seven this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
How old are you, Tim?

Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
How old are you?

Speaker 19 (01:06:30):
Fifty nine?

Speaker 10 (01:06:31):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
So at fifty nine you should be doing thirty to
forty star jumps? Could you?

Speaker 19 (01:06:39):
Here's the deal when you did that challenge to Simeon
do your star jumps, I'll hit the deck and the
press ups?

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, see those you would agree with me? Would you
press ups are way harder than star jumps?

Speaker 19 (01:06:51):
I would think so, because I could do star jumps
till the cows come home.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
I think I believe that in the case. And I
don't think you're saying anything by saying you can do
a lot of star jumps. I don't think star jumps
are hard. K Do you do star jumps every now
and again? Don't you? What was that thing we were
doing the other day? I did star jumps and then
you did star jumble of wine? No, No, I'm sure
we did some star jumps together and you laughed at me,
and then you did some and your uncoordinated stuff like that.

(01:07:15):
Do you think it's the coordination thing?

Speaker 15 (01:07:17):
Were we standing on one leg? I don't think we
I think we were.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I think we were standing on one leg doing star jumps.
I think that's the sort of fun doing star jumps.

Speaker 15 (01:07:25):
Can I just start bring it back to what you
teased before the break, which is clean.

Speaker 10 (01:07:29):
You should see.

Speaker 15 (01:07:31):
You never tell us who did you have dinner with it?
Michael's I'm just kidding this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I'll give you a prize. What would prob Would you
like a six hundred dollars bottle of wine? I'll give
you six hundred dollar bottle of wine if you get
it right first time, Tim.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Oh golly, you will know the name instantly. So it's
a well known name.

Speaker 10 (01:07:57):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (01:07:58):
As?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:08:01):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Give me a name Clark healthy? So as though I
would set you in Trety twenty four and go hey,
I tell you who I had done it with a
mypell and class. When was this oh good, no good? Clue?

Speaker 15 (01:08:17):
Forties?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Nationally years ago, thirty years ago, maybe the late the
late nineties, early two thousands. Possibly there are the best
feel music point out is no longer there. It was
a very well established and magnificent restaurant owned and run
by a guy called Michael and he was the he
was he was the it was the go to place.
One more clue, Cadie so In, the very well known politician,

(01:08:40):
exceedingly well known politician, globally well known politician, but not
as global as America as an American president.

Speaker 15 (01:08:48):
Tony Blair.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Good guess, Bob Hawk.

Speaker 15 (01:08:53):
Oh, I knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
I knew that story.

Speaker 15 (01:08:54):
I can't believe I forgot. Yeah, I knew that. I'm
I'm so bummed I missed out on that six dollar
bottle of wine, particularly given I don't drink, that would
have been amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
And probably don't worry.

Speaker 19 (01:09:05):
Don't worry, I'm gonna I'm gonna pop in a six
dollar bottle of McGuigan's, Katie, I'll pop that in the curier.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
You'll be okay. There we go, and probably the nicest
dinner I've ever had, not dinner, dinner, but and he
no one was more entertaining than him. And he told
stories that I could probably repeat given his dead without
being libelous. But if he was alive, they'd be so libeless,
they'd be unbelievable, even though those stories are true and

(01:09:32):
they involve members of the royal family.

Speaker 15 (01:09:35):
Yeah, don't don't repeat them on air or do you
know that story? Well, you told me about this dinner,
so I remember it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
But are we standing on one leak?

Speaker 15 (01:09:42):
This morning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Star jumps? Yeah, we're doing startups too, I think.

Speaker 19 (01:09:48):
Can I say, can I just say you've raised an
issue though, just bringing it back to Simeon. If you
know how the cops have every two years they have
to do a fitness thing, why don't we have that,
friend Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
I don't think that's true anymore?

Speaker 10 (01:10:00):
Course for MPs.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I don't think that's true. I may be wrong,
but I thought they did away with that once it
got hard to you know, they couldn't find a cop
for love nor money. I think they did away with everything.
It used to be. Have to be five foot nine
or ten or eight or something, and now you can
be four foot three and smoke and you know they've
never done anything in your life and still be a
police officers. But you're right, we should bring it back
for MPs. A warrant of fitness is what you're talking about,

(01:10:22):
isn't it? Yes, A woff, yeah exactly.

Speaker 15 (01:10:25):
Can I give a brief PSA two people shopping today
for Black Friday? One to the retailers fifteen percent off
is not is not a sale.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Correct.

Speaker 15 (01:10:34):
The problem is we've got so much choice internationally online
now where it's seventy percent off. Everywhere that you go
is like twenty percent off, like do better two. I
was in the Auckland CBD yesterday O MG, and that
was an experience because they are they are gentrifying all CBD,
which I've been harsh about for years. So I'm a

(01:10:55):
harsh critic because it's just crap. But it's getting better
from the Buttom up.

Speaker 20 (01:11:01):
But the top half of us, the Don cutter Off said,
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over and.

Speaker 13 (01:11:17):
Blue Los canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Joe, exactly have you ever heard of I show speed? Tim?

Speaker 11 (01:11:22):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I show speeds a person okay, and was in the
country this week, dear, So you don't know. Did you
know I show speed Caddy?

Speaker 15 (01:11:32):
No, I know, I know about him being here, but
I don't I didn't know about him. Hey, sorry, courier, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
A of course it's a courier. Until I know it's
a courier. That's the mcgweigans. It's the mcwegans coming to
make sure they check your age. Caddy, say I'm not
letting you in with the booze until you ask how
old I am. Nice to see you guys, have a
good weekend. It is eight twenty two.

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Stop paying too much at chemist ware pasking him, said
he did eighty push ups. We didn't get the number.
He did aity push ups semi called bs and he
said he did admit that they weren't all nosed to law,
which of course they have to be. Mike, police a
lot of you saying they still need to do that test,

(01:13:04):
and but pleased to hear that.

Speaker 13 (01:13:05):
Actually, I mean when there's two different things. Of course
you can't compare star jumps to put agree because one's strength,
one's card. I couldn't agree more clearly, you should be
doing a combo. Do a whole body attack and come back.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
To me, glean. Don't don't sit there within the shape
you're in and talk to me about a body attack. Hey,
your body has been attacked.

Speaker 13 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I used to. I used to go to body attack.
I didn't say I still.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Do, Mike, I Mike, I spent two this is this
is takes the cake so far this morning I spent
two hundred thousand dollars on a Lexus last week and
every time I think about it, I feel sick. Never
done anything like this for myself, but did it because
the kids would do it. We're no longer here, so

(01:13:48):
you did it before you went. Well, good on you.
If you're happy, you're clearly not. You're feeling sick about it.
Hopefully you'll get over that because I tell you what,
if you're still feeling sick about it, it's you'll need
to do something about it. Sell it. M Murray so
Lydia Thorpe is even more crazy than some members of
What Well One Krmela Harris, but some members of the
Mry Party. If you're not up on that story, the

(01:14:09):
social media band went through. One of the big names
of Australian politics is quit. He's retiring, so is he
running from a sinking ship. So it's quite a bit
going on in Australia this morning and he's our man.
Oh Murray alders with us after the News, which is
next to News Talk.

Speaker 11 (01:14:22):
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Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, The Mike Hosking Breakfast
with the Range Rover bella designed to intrigue and use.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Tom's dead be Mike, you three of the best show.
You should produce a television show, sell it out every time.
You're probably right, Mike Pickering Place off Saint James Smaller
Square in London. I know Pickering Place off Saint James. Allen,
You're quite right. Loved your program, our segment. Mike kadianton
we hate shopping except miight to ten and garden places.
Well fair enough, might a ten. I feel very bad

(01:14:56):
for min to ten at the moment, given their their
debt problems. As a good reading to be done on
the herald of Anne Gibson's onto that they launched into
a computer reb jig and it seems to have gone wrong,
and so they're selling property and product and they're not
doing well, and so I feel bad about that. And
we've but back to the text. We spent a lot

(01:15:16):
on fine wine and dining experiences. It's all about the experience, Annabel,
you one hundred percent right. Twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Seven International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business make Murray.

Speaker 21 (01:15:28):
Olds just want to tell you man, very good morning, Michael,
pretty good.

Speaker 10 (01:15:31):
Thank you for now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Simon Birmingham, they sort of got taken by surprise was
mid afternoon. I happened to be watching Sky Television and
they said, oh, Birmingham's going and it seemed to be
like he said, woke up yesterday morning, called a meeting
in the caucus, said I'm off. Then he gave his
valedictory and that's that.

Speaker 10 (01:15:44):
Is that how it worked?

Speaker 21 (01:15:46):
Well, that's what it's the way it seems, you know.
Obviously this has been sometime in the making. His wife
is also involved in politics down in South Australia. He's
been there for seventeen years. He's been very significant player
in under Morrison. For example, he was what ministry did
he have?

Speaker 10 (01:16:05):
I just forget now.

Speaker 21 (01:16:06):
But look, he's the leading moderate on the liberal side
of parliament of politics in this country. He's one of
the biggest moderates and him going will as being seen
here this morning as gee whiz. Look at the right
bearing their fans, the hard right, and they're trying to
get one of their own in.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
Is that going to be possible. I'm not sure that.

Speaker 21 (01:16:25):
There's going to be a Senate selection down in South
Australia when the next election is called. You would imagine
it's going to come from the moderates, because these intra
party fights over moderates, right left factions and so on,
they never look good in public.

Speaker 10 (01:16:40):
Might know, so look, he's going to be missed.

Speaker 21 (01:16:42):
He's been a good, very good performer, I think for
the conservative side of politics here and he will be missed,
no doubt about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
The Parliament's wrapping up, of course, and they've been madly
trying to pass any number of bits of legislation with
no sort of inside look at all. But the question
being when do you reckon the election is because the
word yesterday was he elbow is quite keen to go earlier,
and he's being talked out of it.

Speaker 21 (01:17:07):
Well, I'm not privy to the internal workings of the
Federal Labor Party machine, but Albaneze says last night on
national television he said we're going to be back in
February at least for a fortnight to look at remaining
bills that it wasn't able to ram through. They got
through thirty one bills last night. As you say, bucketoll scrutiny,

(01:17:29):
just trust us. This will be fine on the day.
But you know, the election is going to be set
against the backdrop of the continuing cost of living crisis.
You've got Peter Dutton riding pretty high in the polls
and landing blow after blow on the government. Albanizy looks
pretty cheaper though, and the big line he rolled out
last night, We've got your back. This is going to

(01:17:51):
be a major campaign slogan. I suggest for Labor in
the election. Whenever it's called, it must be called Mike
by May. As we've discussed previously. But February March.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
They you know, they got off March, haven't they. Let's
say again, they got a budget in March.

Speaker 21 (01:18:08):
They got a budget in March, but there's no you
know that they could bring it down. And I mean
he could call an election, say on Australia Day the
it's about a thirty five day minimum window, so that
would take us through. Maybe you can drop a budget
in the start of March and go straight to an
election promising all sorts of things, you know, cost of
living relief, that's the biggest item. The cost of living

(01:18:30):
over here is really squeezing people big, big time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
And I reckon he's going and I'll say he is
in the I think he is on the latter part
of November, because I'm a big big believer. And we've
seen it with Trump and we saw it in this
country when you do the poll and you had one
this week. Is the country going in the right direction
the moment the majority say no, your toast?

Speaker 21 (01:18:52):
And that was a very very big line from Donald Trump,
wasn't it. Are you better off now than you were
four years ago?

Speaker 10 (01:18:58):
You know? And if if you frame it that way,
their mums and dads.

Speaker 21 (01:19:02):
Sitting around the dining table at night, all out of
Australia saying plenty, hell, we are we going to get
the mortgage this week?

Speaker 10 (01:19:07):
The kids need an ushe whatever it is, and the
money isn't going far enough.

Speaker 21 (01:19:11):
And that's going to be a very potent election campaign
slogan for Peter Dalton, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Interesting is have you seen the Karmela Harris video?

Speaker 10 (01:19:21):
No? I actually meant to look at it last night
and I got distracted.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
I was red, well, you can't answer this question. Look
at it later today because you'll know what I mean.
I was going to ask, who's crazy a Krmela Harris
Oldia Thorpe? Is she literally insane?

Speaker 10 (01:19:34):
Sheathor what's her cold? Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:19:36):
Look, I don't know, she's simply after publicity, she's getting
plenty of that. Are there issues, you know, more significant
health issues, perhaps because she is just she's almost out
of control in the Senate. I mean, they've never seen
behavior like this, you know, she stormed out of the
King's speech, you know, screaming and ranting and ravings. She

(01:19:58):
was banned from the Senate this week for forty eight
hours the last two sitting days because she attacked Pauline
Hansen's you know, there was a measure that Hansen proposed
targeting Fatima Payman, who was in fact an Afghan citizen.
You're not supposed to be anything other than an Australian
citizen to sit in the Australian Parliament. As you know,

(01:20:20):
payment was unable to renounce her Afghan citizen citizenship because
the Teleban's in power back in Afghanistan, where she was born.
So she accused Hanson of being a racist. Thorpe has
thrown this stuff up in the air and stormed out
of the chamber with a middle finger up and she
was banned for two days. While she's talking around outside

(01:20:40):
the open doors of the Senate wearing a T shirt
I think with Palestinian slogans, howling and screaming.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
I mean, just nuts and crazy, absolutely crazy. The reason
asked we had the Maori Party here, a minor party
in our parliament. They went crazy the other day in
the house and so they're still to deal with that.
And I'm hoping they'll get a band as well. Speaking
of bands, this social thing, yes you past it, and
yes every headline goes the first in the world, but literally,
how's that going to work?

Speaker 21 (01:21:06):
But no one knows, Mike, no one has a clue.
I mean, you talk to any you know, ten year old,
twelve year old. Oh, we'll get around this in thirty seconds.
And who's going to be held liable? Is it really
going to be Elon Muskin? You know, TikTok and all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Of one's going to get held libel Murray. I mean,
it's just like this is everything that's wrong with politics.
I mean, everyone agrees it's a problem, and everyone agrees
that would be nice if the social media companies pull
their finger out and behave themselves a bit better. But
the reason that's the world first is because everyone else
has looked at it already and there is no answer
to the problem. If there was, they would have done it.

Speaker 21 (01:21:40):
Indeed, so basically, anyone under the age of sixteen in
Australia will be banned from social media sites, not messaging apps.

Speaker 10 (01:21:48):
No, but the owners will be on companies to check
the age of users.

Speaker 21 (01:21:52):
Well, what's to stop a fourteen year old saying I'm
seventeen or twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
Same sounds when you go on the boot sites? You
know are you eighteen?

Speaker 11 (01:21:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
I am crazy? A does it help? Am I being unfair?
Tell me if I'm being unfair. But when I see
I look at the poor bloke who got found guilty
for tasting the woman, he looks like a guy who's
either you know, you see, so when you look at him,
going yeah, I can see why that happened.

Speaker 21 (01:22:16):
Well, the very much divided opinion in New South Wales,
it must be said, I mean he's a thirty four
year old police officer, Christian White. He was found guilty
this week of manslaughter, which carries a twenty five year
penalty in jail. And obviously Claire now and a ninety

(01:22:36):
five year old great grandmother, She was on a walking
frame in her nursing home armed with a knife. She'd
been into the bedroom of at least one other resident
of the nursing home with two knives, and they tried
to talk Hero out and then he said, oh bugger
it and zap I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Excuse my ignorance. Did they ever get in the trial
to the bottom of it, because it's incomprehensible knife not
that you can't see how old, how frail she is,
and clearly she's not well and therefore the TAAs is
not required.

Speaker 10 (01:23:09):
Yeah, I mean I get it, you get it.

Speaker 21 (01:23:12):
And there were two police officers there as well as
two paramedics.

Speaker 10 (01:23:15):
I mean, you're telling me that four trained people can't
just arm an old, ninety five year old lady. You
didn't know where the heck she was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
I mean, it was amazing, just dreadful. Or have you
done a Christmas shop? Is it Black Friday in Australia today?

Speaker 21 (01:23:27):
By the way, Oh god, I'm trying to avoid all
that Black Friday nonsense. I'll go to the golf club, Mike.
I might get a you know, a dozen golf balls
for forty bucks and that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Will do me. So what it costs in Australia tour
balls forty bucks?

Speaker 10 (01:23:39):
Yeah, you know you can get those on special.

Speaker 21 (01:23:41):
I was at I was at a golf shop yesterday,
just walking around, you know, a bit like women going
to shoe shops.

Speaker 10 (01:23:47):
I shouldn't geralize here. I love going to I love
going to the golf shops.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
It's a bit like the ladies go shopping. It's just
the top of one. I even needed to buy twelve
because I never lost the Murray. I just bought one.

Speaker 10 (01:24:01):
Ah, listen to you all right done?

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
And the thing is, I've still got it.

Speaker 10 (01:24:07):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
I keeping well. Big time catch up next week. Murray
Olds is fourteen to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
That'd be seventy five thousand more people need to lose
their job in Australia. We had eleven so when the
Reserve Bank made their announcement this week the unemployment, they're
still forecasting to go to fire point two, which isn't
five point five. So things aren't going to be as
bad they think as we originally thought. So that's another
eleven thousand people in New Zealand need to leave their
jobs lose their job. Seventy five thousand is the number
they announced yesterday in Australia. That's a lot of people.

(01:24:39):
Mind you if you look on a per head of
population basis, it equates to about the same thing, Mike.
To celebrate Thanksgiving tonight, eight of us are going to
split a bottle of twenty sixteen Grange. Isn't that wonderful?
One hundred and twenty five dollars each. It's about one
thousand dollars a bottle for an hour of great wine
conversation In entertainment, you could do worse. That's at ninety
three mills ago, which if you're splinning it eight ways,

(01:25:02):
ninety three mills is you'd want to take that slowly
because I could. I could, I could kill ninety three
mills and just oh that's nice. Where's that gone? It's
got that about it, But you enjoy it. One of
the great wines of the world. There's a very good auction.

Speaker 13 (01:25:16):
I don't think you're supposed drink it with a straw.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
It didn't really matter the auctions on for Are you
interested in Elton John's car. It's a two thousand and
four Bentley Continental. It's a for sale here. There's a
company called Sunday Drive and you can read about it
in the Driven section of the Herald this morning. So
there's a company. There's a bunch of really interesting cars,
and the auction's on at the moment. I'm just thinking

(01:25:40):
about Christmas. They're all more than six hundred dollars, by
the way, so you'll have to take your Black Friday
budget and it stretch it a little bit. But there's
two thousand and four Bentley Continental that Elton John there's
paperwork that says he owned it. It's got seventy or
eighty thousand k's on the clock, it's black. It's a
good looking car, so that's for sale.

Speaker 13 (01:25:57):
You've got looking at because he's not allowed to drive
any more.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Can't see sea out of one eye precisely. There's a
twenty one Ford Mustang SM seventeen. The SM is Scott McLaughlin.
There was only one hundred and thirty made, so you
can buy that if you want. That was part of
the McLaughlin family had it and Scott used it when
he came back to the country. And it's only got
about die I think from memory, two or three thousand
k's on the clock, so that's quite something. And then
my favorite is a Daimler SP two to fifty Dart.

(01:26:21):
I bought a nineteen sixty nine Mark one Dameler many
many years ago, when it couldn't afford one, and then
once I got my Mark one Daimler that I couldn't afford,
I then thought, jeez, I'd love him SP two fifty
Dart And they're very very rare cars and they're a
super cool looking car. And that's for sale as well.
That's up for action as well. At the moment, it's
all locally. It's often these cars come up internationally. You
don't see them here, but they're here available now in

(01:26:43):
the auctions live at the moment, apparently eight minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Mike agreed the Daimler Dart is still cool looking after
fifty years, couldn't it. It's probably one of the best
looking cars ever produced. It's a little convertible. What was
the Netflix program read the London Christmas It wasn't Netflix.
It was TV and Z Plus and it was James.
I can't remember what it's called, you know Christmas St
James or James at Christmas or you know St James
something or rather or TV and Z Plus. It's under

(01:27:15):
the segment they run called programs you might want to watch.

Speaker 13 (01:27:19):
That should offer a service where it's like as recommended,
as curated, very very favorous. It's curated by a husky.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
The Hosking Curation. Hey, come on, now there is and
that they're looking for ideas. The Hosking Curation five minutes
away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
Trending Now chemist wareuse the home of big brand fight.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
What would they do when I outrated the entire station
with my ideas?

Speaker 18 (01:27:40):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
What would they do?

Speaker 10 (01:27:42):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
Scotland is introducing this winter energy payment anywhere between two
and six hundred bucks, depending on how old you are
and what sort of benefits you got. So anyway, Sir Sky,
I thought this is good. So they went and talked
to a couple of Scots about it.

Speaker 10 (01:27:57):
Sure, I don't get in. I've got all my pensions.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Well, as a rich pensioner, you'll still get this payment
of time and I'll come back.

Speaker 10 (01:28:04):
That's fine.

Speaker 14 (01:28:05):
But as a rich pension or do you think you
should get it?

Speaker 13 (01:28:07):
Yes, because of what hard on my life.

Speaker 10 (01:28:11):
Someone entitled it that as long as they don't.

Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
Take area bush brush, you know, because I don't need
my private jet anymore, I think they should bring it back.

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
For the older people, I because they'll need jet Rod,
the volves, get up, get hi, you know that?

Speaker 10 (01:28:30):
Also bringing it back. I'd be very pleased about that
because they obviously am I'm going to be able to
accept that and do something with it.

Speaker 15 (01:28:37):
But it seems like it was all done particle, you know, standard.
But it's good that they brought it back. I think
people will really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Our son lives at the moment and he's.

Speaker 13 (01:28:46):
Taking taking the woman when she said for the.

Speaker 14 (01:28:51):
Older people, I because they'll need yet Rot, the volves,
get up, get hi.

Speaker 18 (01:28:55):
You know that?

Speaker 13 (01:28:55):
You know what I mean, Like I didn't quite come back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Anyway, Let's enjoy the f one over the weekend, by
the way, that's back for the weekend, and the some
football on today because it's Thanksgiving and life is good
and it's it's all great. So anyway, as we say
happy days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
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