Full Show Podcast: 30 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Welling in Welcome Today. New numbers a show we're still
dreadful at treating our kids. Canada new PM majority looks
a loosive though. Stephen Joyce on how to run a
budget with no money, the changing rules on prisoner voting.
Richard Arnold State sides d Price on the election trail
in Australia. Hosking is seven perst. Yes, it is seven
past six. Now I think I'm encouraged. I think I

(00:31):
am anyway by the numbers of submissions into the COVID inquiry,
were remembering This is COVID Inquiry Part two. Submissions closed
Sunday now. The Part two is to try and rectify
the stitch up that was COVID Part one from the
previous government who were determined to set criteria that would
not expose the true damage they brought upon most of us.
Now thirty one thousand have had their say this time.
It has pointed out they've come from all ages, all locations,

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and they were both positive as well as negative positive
as interesting give it I mean, given Health New Zealand
submitted on whether one should have a McDonald's do not
underestimate the establishment's ability to spend an indecent amount of
time and money and putting a best case scenario forward
in a but covering exercise. This part of the inquiry
looks into masks, mandates of axes and lockdowns, and thirty
one thousand tells me we are still very much exercised

(01:16):
about the historic nature of the event and our keenness
to try and come up with something that sees nothing
like a repeat of the last exercise. I note the
other day, poor old Chris Hopkins still tries to walk
that very fine line between admitting they are in charge
of a balls up and pretending it went mostly well.
He's in, of course, an unwinnable place, as the last
SAP left standing given a Durna and Robertson a long

(01:36):
gone He's got the sorry task of defending what really
were some astonishingly poor decisions. But that doesn't mean the
inquiry will come up with answers me what answers answers
to what will a pandemic be the same or similar
or not similar at all. What sort of government will
be in Will that government be competent or experience? What
role will the public service play? Will epidemiologists become household
names all over again? Will New Zealanders sink into a

(01:57):
myopic funk waiting for a leader to tell what sort
of stuffed animal to put in the window. What made
last time so bad was the control, and out of
the control came the anger and the fear. I'm not
sure an inquiry can dictate answers or solutions around emotion,
but thirty one thousand submissions tells you the emotion is
still very, very real. At least in putting the part

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two part on, we attempt to recognize how profound those
dark and troubled days really were.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
News of the world In ninety six, the voter.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Trump saved the Liberals. As it turns out, Mark Carney's
your prime minister. They don't have a majority. They're still counting.
But outside the collapse of the US relations policy wise,
what were they offering?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
He has made all these promises to make Canada the
strongest economy in the G seven, is going to build
pipelines for energy, become a super energy power, so there's.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
A lot on the agenda.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
We'll go to Canada the latest south of the border.
They're marking one hundred days of you know who.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
The American people trust in President Trump. Since his first
day in office, President Trump has focused on defeating the
Biden inflation crisis, bringing down the cost of living, and
making the United States the best place in the world
to do business.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
The folks of Detroit have bilt mixed reports.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
Give me ten, I would say ten too.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
I mean he's human, he's doing his best.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Oh zero, if I can do lower than zero.

Speaker 8 (03:18):
Lower.

Speaker 9 (03:19):
We're all so angry because we're under angry leadership and
that's not good.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Tradsy Secretary spending some cool thinking.

Speaker 7 (03:26):
We are the deficit country. They sell almost five times
more goods to us than we sell to them, so
the onus will be on them to take off these tariffs.
They're unsustainable for them.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Them being China. The doge coach here clearly have been
listening and drinking a bit of business cool life.

Speaker 10 (03:48):
The China content, I do believe, despair where it deals
with Mexico, where it deals with Canada. Our friends in
the EU, there is an understanding that we've got the
quickly resolved that, and I think it has taken a
little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Then in Britain. Lovers in the air in Scotland, as
Will and Kate celebrated their fourteenth wedding anniversary.

Speaker 11 (04:08):
This is a significant moment for them. Since Kate's cancer
diagnosis and subsequent treatment, we really haven't seen them out
and about together. In fact, this is the first time
they've had a joint overnight visit for more than two
years now.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
News of the World in ninety six White House, by
the way, Apart from the Amazon staush which I'll tell
you more about in just a couple of moments, Amazon
have tried it on and Miss Levitt was not happy.
That's a hostile political action, she is claiming. But I'll
detail that in the moment. Then we've got what they're
now calling stacked tariffs. This is how mental this has become.
So current tariffs of twenty five percent on imported vehicles

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this is cars, will continue. But there are new measures
announced this morning that will prevent other adjacent levies, i e.
On steel and aluminium stacking up on top of them
so you can have a terraf on a cab. But
because some of the car is made of steel and minium.
You don't put that on top of the car tariffs.
So tariff's on tariffs. You can't have tariffs on tariffs
plastic bits, and so I don't know what's going on.

(05:06):
Twelve and it's past six.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
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Speaker 2 (05:18):
On the tariffront Eddie dess Obernight this globally said, listen,
as far as the US stuff is consumed, we're just
going to put the price up. Now. Whether that works
for them, I don't know. But the White House theory
is that, of course Americans consumers don't pay for tariffs,
because that's part of the Trump magic. But unfortunately Eddi
Das haven't brought into that. As far as guidance is concerned,
they wouldn't have a clue what's going on. So if
you're looking for guidance from large global players these days,

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forget it. Fifteen past six, right open, JOm Wealth Andrew
hell I heard, good morning, very good morning, Mike Jobs.
Are we happy with these numbers?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
It's subdued, is the word.

Speaker 8 (05:52):
So there's some key words for twenty twenty five, aren't
they subdued uncertainty, you know, you pick your word.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, lot's going on around the well. But let's talk
about the local jobs make at first.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
So this is the monthly filled job series, Mike, We've
talked about it before.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Not a survey.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
This is hard data. It's drawn from in then revenue information.
So in the March quarter, phil jobs rows zero point
two percent and zero point two percent of the month
of March as well. Now, we haven't seen a material
increase in this data series for quite some time. That's
the first quarterly increase in a year. So if you
take a sort of step back from this, the water

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cooler takeaway this morning is that the employment market looks
subdued year on year. Here's the illustration of that. The
employment for philled job is one point six percent lower
than it was a year ago. Look the worst and
downward revisions to previous data as well. Downward revisions seem
to be commonplace for this data series. So a zero
point two percent rise for the quarter, well, that's pretty skinny,

(06:52):
could get revised away quite quickly. Quick Look at the
different sectors transport, retail, hospitality.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
They've seen some in increases.

Speaker 8 (07:01):
I think better travel, bit of tourism numbers would be
a factor there. We've seen some increases in public services,
that's healthcare probably is where you point the finger there.
Construction and business services a week the primary sector, so
we all know that's going good.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Filled jobs there jump zero point four percent.

Speaker 8 (07:20):
The one notable point from this data series though, we
say the jobs market employment marker is subdued.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Who's bearing the brunt of that? Young people?

Speaker 8 (07:29):
Fifteen to nineteen year olds a year on year down
ten percent, twenty twenty four year olds down three point
six percent, twenty five to twenty nine, and down four
and a half cent. So it's a tough jobs market
for younger people at the moment. We get a big
data dump next week, seventh of May. That's the or
the household labor force series, et cetera. So well that's
the that's we'll wait for that.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I reckon the young people's a skill story there. What
about Nikola yesterday? Is she braver insane?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
I think she's.

Speaker 8 (07:55):
Set themselves some fairly challenging targets here. So the key
takeaway on this one, Mike, was a continuation of physcal discipline.
We sort of talked, we thought that was what she
was going to say, and I think we were accurate.
The operating allowance is under very strict control. Two point
four billion was already skinny one point three billion. That's

(08:15):
a very challenging number to achieve. Do we dare use
the austerity word here, Mike? They're sticking to their half
year economic and fiscal forecast for when they returned to surplus.
I'm still waiting to see how they're going to afford
all this new defense, Kip, but no doubt we'll get
lots of updates over the next three weeks.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
She better have found some spectacular savings somewhere, because I
don't know where the money's coming from us. What happened overnight?
What have we got there? What do you make of
these automotive things, tariffs on tariffs on tariffs on terrorism.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
Well, it's just what I will say, Mike, and I
sort of haven't really prepared them about this. But if
you ask about that, my concern here is he came
out with this sort of kindergarten show and tell a
piece of paper, and what you're actually going.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
To end up with. It as an incredibly complicated system.

Speaker 8 (09:02):
It's going to be country by country, it's going to
take a lot longer, and it's starting to become incredibly
it's got to become administratively onerous, doesn't it. Look you've
had jobs numbers what they call these jolts. This is
job openings and labour turnover points to the state of
the labor market. That's fallen to a four year low.

(09:22):
So the labor market continuing to cool. Seven point one
million jobs open. That was seven point four eight in February.
You're looking to sort of similar levels you saw in
COVID there conference board.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
This is a survey.

Speaker 8 (09:34):
This is more concerning consumer confidence fell for the fifth
straight month there, so that similar level is seen in
the dark days of the early COVID period. The confidence
index eighty six. It was ninety two point nine previously,
I thought it was eighty eight. Let's just let's have
a little look here. The expectations index. I thought this
was really interesting. So this is consumer short term outlook

(09:57):
for income, business and the labor market.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
That felt a fifty four point four. It was at
sixty five last month.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
That's the lowest level they've seen since October twenty eleven. Now,
Scott Vessant might not like surveys, but he needs to
take notice that when this number is below eighty, it's
historically been a recession warning signal and inflation expectations of
seven percent.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Direction of travel is important here.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
It keeps climbing so and then tariffs, Well, you've covered
all of the Scott Vessont trying to put the pressure
back on China. They said they're close to a deal
with India, and I think Lutnix in the last few
minutes has said they've got a deal ready to go.
They continue to talk to Republic of Korea, Japan, Europe.
Sounds like it's stalled. Look, we'll just get continuing your

(10:44):
headlines on this one.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
We might these are fun times. What are the numbers?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Well, they've jumped.

Speaker 8 (10:48):
The US market's jumped on the basis that you're going
to get one trade deal and there's obviously another one
hundred and ninety nine to go, aren't there.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
For five hundred and seventy four on.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
The Dow Jones, it's up three hundred and forty eight
points eighty seven, the S and P five hundred three
quarters of percent five five seventy one, and the Nasdaq
uper point six eight percent seventeen thousand, four hundred and
eighty four overnight. The foots he gained over half a
percent eight four sixty three, the nick gained point three
eight thirty five thousand, eight hundred and thirty nine chang,
how com is that relatively unchanged?

Speaker 4 (11:19):
The Ozzie's had a good day yesterday up.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Point nine of one percent point nine two actually eight
thousand and seventy. We however, fell seventy three points.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Twelve twenty five and the six.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Fifty key we dollar point five nine four five against
the US point nine three zero to Ossie point five
two one seven Euro one point four four three five
pounds eighty four point five Japanese end gold three thousand,
three hundred and twenty one.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Brent crud coming back a bit. That's growth issue, a
US growth issue. Sixty four dollars and ten cents.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well, see you tomorrow, Andrew kellahead Joe am my wealth
dot MASKI nine en Z general motives. They had a beat,
but they said, hey, what about guidance, and they went,
wouldn't have a clue, get a dark board. Deutsche Bank,
by the way, biggest lender in Europe. They had a
get They went gangbusters, ten percent jumpinnet revenue. All of
that's good, best quarter and fourteen years of note they've

(12:05):
up their credit provisions to navigate turbulence. I think that's
a wires move. Six twenty one Your News Talk.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
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Speaker 2 (12:24):
B one hundred days S and P five hundred and
seven point nine percent drop? Is that historically bad? Yes
it is. It is the worst market performance for a
president in their first one hundred days since Nixon, and
Nixon's got his own story to tell. Normally, on average,
the S and P five hundred on a new president
for the first one hundred days since nineteen forty four

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goes up two point one percent, So numbers don't lie.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Six twenty five Trending now with Chimis ware House book
in your Flu Vaccination Today.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Fortunately you're ready to isshoes of which ip you on
a hold on another one. Back to the White House,
Miss Livett, who was part of the one hundred Days,
had to lay out some home truths for the previously
compliant tech sector. Know ande sucked up to Trump more
than the tech bros, of course, Psychoberg, Musk and Bezos anyway,
dark clouds have emerged as a new report has Amazon,
in the interest of transparency, looking to put a new
mobile only shopping section in their app showing how much

(13:21):
the tariffs were adding to each item. Will mis Libt
was having none of that. She came prepared. She had
clearly shoulder taped a reporter to ask a random question
about it that allowed her to produce the previously arranged
printouts of stories from twenty twenty one saying Amazon had
partnered with China in the propaganda arm.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
This is a hostile and political act by Amazon wide.
And Amazon do this when the Biden administration hated fleation
to the highest level in forty years. And I would
also add that it's not a surprise because, as Reuyers
recently wrote, Amazon has partnered with a Chinese propaganda arm.

(13:59):
So this is another reason why Americans should buy American.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
They love you until they hate you. Ay. Amazon deny
the report. They say the idea was considered, but it's
never been prove got some very good polling. By the way,
there's a I think there's a scandal brewing in Coojong.
This is the Australian vote. So see, we'll do the
business on that. But some polling up this morning in
Australia or country. Through those numbers, it looks very bad
for Dutton, looks dreadful for Dutton. As each day passes,

(14:25):
it seems to get worse. Then we've got some polling
up in the UK this morning. They're interesting numbers as
well because they've got their local body elections coming up
on Friday. It looks like reform could do something quite
historic if the poles translate into real votes. So all
of that's still to come, and they'll'll take you to
did you see the pictures yesterday that solar farm being opened,

(14:45):
massive solar farm in the South Island on the Canterbury Plains,
And you know how I love the Canterby plans. Who
doesn't love the Canterbury planes? Anyway, we'll talk to Genesis
about that in just a couple of moments. The question
I want to ask Malcolm John's is as big a
fan of solar as I may be. Do you get
to to a certain point where visually it becomes an
eyesore and we might be buying ourselves trouble that we

(15:06):
haven't even quite thought about yet. Anyway, renewables after the News.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
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Speaker 2 (15:21):
Voting in Britain on Friday Local body elections UGO poll
out overnight Faraja's Reform Party at twenty six, Labour twenty three,
Conservatives twenty who would have believed today, lib DEM's fifteen,
Greens nine. The Conservatives are potentially facing a loss of
five hundred councilors. That it was a high watermark with
Boris Johnson back in twenty twenty one, if you remember
labor They think he might not do any better either,

(15:43):
despite the fact they're doing okay in government, So it
could be a big day for Reform. Speaking, which twenty
three minutes away from seven when you're polling around on
Trump's first one hundred days, Richard Arnold stateside on that
shortly meantime, back here a very interesting insight into how
we produce power in this country. Yesterday Genesis opened the
country's biggest solar farm. But they're also in the business
of cold bringing in seven hundred and seventy killer times

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and the stuff to top up the four hundred and
sixty five killer times already here the Genesis Energy boss,
Malcolm John's is with us. Malcolm, very good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (16:12):
I'm like, how are you.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I'm very well. Indeed, I was watching yesterday is nice
day in Canterbury but rainy. But nevertheless, I'm a fan
of the solar But I looked at that yesterday. Are
you getting close to an I saw there?

Speaker 12 (16:24):
It's pretty big, it is, but the visual impact has
been managed. It's obviously Canterbury's flat, which helps. But you
can't actually see the solar farm from the road and
it has no visual impact on the landscape.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
All okay? Can the farm still operate as Sertney can?

Speaker 10 (16:43):
So?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
A lot of people argue with me on that. My
understanding is the sheep grays and life carries on. Is
that true?

Speaker 13 (16:50):
That's correct?

Speaker 12 (16:50):
And so effectively the farmer receives income from the solar
farm and from grazing sheep under the solar farm.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
What's your cost going forward in terms of replacing panels
and all of that.

Speaker 12 (17:03):
The panels will last between twenty and twenty five years.
They're cleaned regularly and so their hail proof and et cetera,
et cetera. So it'll be relatively minimal.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
How many more of those type of operations does this
country need solar wise to get renewable?

Speaker 12 (17:21):
Our soul is part of our overall mix. It's not
a replacement for everything. But the advantage it gives you,
particularly in mid Canterbury. Mid Canterbury has a demand for
electricity which peaks in the summertime. The rest of the
New Zealand the demand peaks in the winter time. So
the soul is perfect for that part of New Zealand.

(17:43):
But the advantage it gives you more broadly is it
allows you to hold water back in the lakes and
so your lakes become more like giant batteries than having
to generate electricity every day of the year. And to
the van solar gives.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
You Okay, let me come back to that in just
a couple the moments. But as regards the rest of it,
So the reason I ask is you're bringing in coal,
and we've got a shed load of coal because we
need it because the renewable dream is not quite here.
How long before you're not bringing in the sort of
coal you need to bring in O.

Speaker 12 (18:12):
Well, there's two things with coal. New Zealand will reach
about ninety five percent renewable generation and sold on a
wind or play a big part of that. But there
will be periods of time when the wind's not blowing
and the rain hasn't come, like last winter and like
the start of this year, et cetera. So we will
need back up from flexible thermal generation for many decades
to come. The largest place we store electricity in New

(18:35):
Zealand is actually our forests. We store about three times
as much energy in our forests as we do in
our lakes and in the coal stockpilot Huntley, and so
we're progressively moving to displace coal with biomass over the
next five years or so. But even in a really
dry year, even with that biomass, New Zealand is likely
to need some coal reserve and back up for some

(18:56):
decades to come.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Does bio mass work in terms of heat real heat
as opposed to all heat.

Speaker 12 (19:02):
Yes it does. So biomass actually burns hotter than cold
because it has a lower moisture content.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
As regards you mentioned transfer transpoer on this ongoing discussion
they're having with access to reserves, I can't quite work
out where their heads at. If we've got these emergency
reserves and they don't yet you have them, what's the
point of having them?

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Well, my understanding from what Transpower is published is the
emergency reserves are there as a last last resort, and
but what you use them?

Speaker 2 (19:32):
What's the trigger though? I mean the last last winter
is last last I mean we've had a couple of winters.
Now looks like we're going into another one where things
are too tight. We look a bit third world. So
at what point do we actually trigger it?

Speaker 12 (19:44):
Yeah, so if you look at a major plant failure
or a major gas well failure, those emergency reserves are
there to cover that. If you use them and then
you have a major plant failure, a major gas well failure,
or you have geopolitical disruption, you can't port coal and
to New Zealand, you've nothing left. And so the reason

(20:04):
those reserves are there as a last last resort. And
so you really need to talk to Trendspower in terms
of the thinking behind the way that's structured. But that's
that's why those reserves are there.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Good stuff Malcolm and us to talk to. You appreciate
it very much. Malcolm John's Genesis Energy CEO nineteen minutes
away from seven Tasking seriously fascinated by that stuff. I
think in another life I might come back as a
boss of power company DHL. By the way, I told you,
they had suspended their deliveries of more than let's call
it a thousand bucks ish into America. They couldn't handle
the administration, all the problems that came with the tariffs.

(20:37):
They've clearly cut a deal because overnight they've lifted at
values this positive development and the support of the federal
government and making these changes. Obviously, the government blinked on
that and DHL are back in business. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 14 (21:06):
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Speaker 2 (21:06):
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Speaker 2 (21:21):
So it's not what you do on Good Morning, Mike Happy.

Speaker 15 (21:25):
One hundred days Oh yes, one hundred days in and well,
not a pretty picture, say a lot of Republicans. See
Murrock run Wall Street Journal saying in its editorial today,
quote Trump two point zero is in trouble. He will
fail unless he heeds the warnings. They continue, quote presidential
second terms are really successful, and on the evidence of
his first one hundred days, Trump's won't be different. That's

(21:48):
especially true on tariff's, which could sink his presidency. End
quote longtime Republican strategist Carl Rowe the saying this what
it gets to the economy.

Speaker 16 (21:57):
He is in very bad shape. And it's not only
that he's in the short term in bad shape. There's
also evidence in the poll that no matter even if
he gets his way on certain things like tariffs, that
he's not good in the long run.

Speaker 15 (22:11):
Well we'll see. Trump has seen the slew of horrible
polls in the last few days. As we know on
the numbers, Trump now in the worst shape of any
presidents here in the history of modern polling. So of
course Trump is attacking the polsters. He posted they are
fake polls from fake news organizations. Posters are sick. He added,
they should be investigated for election fraud, says Trump election
for it? What election? May you know? What also made

(22:33):
Trump unhappy today, as you've been saying, is Amazon, as
they went ballistic over the online giant, suggesting they might
list see Trump tariff as an extra costs on goods
Jeff Bezos and backing down that after a Trump call,
as you've been outlining, the White House got word that
this was happening. But apparently they're still the best of friends.
Right now, Trump is giving a wonder to day speech

(22:54):
in Michigan soon he's just about to head off, and
as a backdrop to that, he says he will soften
some of the cart but not much. They will only
remove the extra tariff on steel and aluminium, not the
basic card tariff of twenty five percent. Consumer confidence is
on the skids, goting to report out today, it's dropped
eight points to those levels since COVID. Confidence in political

(23:14):
leaders also is a rock bottom. Approval of Republicans in
the Congress just four in ten. Only the Democrats do worse.
Their approval rate is just three in ten, the lowest
ever for the Democrats. The Democratic Senate leader Chuck Schumer
drew some slams when he revealed it he has written
an angry letter to Trump, an angry letter Mike that

(23:35):
should have a big impact. Right while Illinois Governor J. D.
Pritzker is uping the ante a little, telling his audience.

Speaker 17 (23:41):
Never before in my life have a called for mass protests,
for mobilization, for disruption.

Speaker 12 (23:48):
But I am now.

Speaker 17 (23:53):
These Republicans do not know a moment of peace. They
have to understand that we will fight their cruelty with
every megaphone and microphone that we have.

Speaker 15 (24:04):
Right now, though the polls show a pox on both
the houses, yes, exactly what do they make of Canada? Well,
it's one of the most remarkable political turnarounds that we've seen,
isn't it. Thank you Trump. Mike Contney has become PM
as leader of the left wing party strangely in Canada,
called the Liberals the opposition leader. Body even lost his
own parliamentary seat two months ago. Of course, the Conservatives

(24:26):
had a twenty four point leaders they tried to become
mini Trump's. A cantie made Trump his target, saying.

Speaker 18 (24:32):
You're over the shock of the American betrayal, but we
should never forget.

Speaker 15 (24:37):
The lessons betrayal. That is strong language. Cantie also ran
a brilliant campaign commercial with the Canadian born and comic
Mike Myers as the two were at an ice hockey game,
Cantie speaking first in this commercial.

Speaker 13 (24:51):
Do you live in the first Yeah? But I'll always
be a Canadian. But you live in the state.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (24:59):
So if you remember Mister dress Up, the children's show
on TVC, what were.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
The names of Mister dress Up's two puppet friends, Casey
and Finnegan Bud s Bud, Howie sneaker Capitalist Saskatchewan Vagina, Tragically.

Speaker 19 (25:12):
Pip, you're defenseman depending a two on one?

Speaker 6 (25:14):
What do you do?

Speaker 13 (25:15):
Pick away the pass? Obviously? What are the two seasons
in Toronto? Winter and construction?

Speaker 8 (25:20):
Wow?

Speaker 13 (25:21):
Really are Kennedy?

Speaker 17 (25:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (25:23):
But let me ask you, mister Prime Minister. Will there
always be a Canada?

Speaker 18 (25:27):
There will always be a Canada, all right? Elbows out,
elbows up.

Speaker 15 (25:31):
Elbows up, meaning fight back in Canada these days, I
left wing is there saying thank you, President Trump. And
we'll see what happens in Australia, even if the Donald's
ghost is yet to go for Oz to become the
fifty second American state.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
But don't you mind, See you're frid Of Richard Donald Steed.
So I watched a county speech last night. It couldn't
work out whether it was bullish or foolish. Ultimately, the
Rice is close to the mini A'm making out. They
currently in a minority. They got one hundred and sixty
eight seats the Liberals they need one hundred and seventy
two they're not going to get.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
It.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Doesn't seem to think that they're going to get one
forty four to the Conservative So it was forty three
and a half to forty one and a half percent.
The New Democrats were the real losers apart from anything else.
But we'll go to Canada. After seven o'clock this morning,
ten to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
The mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News
Talks head Vadas.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Which it said Trump's off to Michigan for a speech
to mark one hundred diyes. Here he is as he's
about to leave on a call of Bezos.

Speaker 14 (26:23):
Jeff Bezos was very nice. He was terrific. He solved
a problem very quickly, and he did the right thing.
And it's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, very good guys. What's he achieved in one hundred dies.

Speaker 20 (26:36):
Either we've done everything or it's in the process of
being done.

Speaker 14 (26:40):
For instance, the border is in great shape.

Speaker 20 (26:42):
Ninety nine point nine percent came out again today, ninety
nine point nine that I would say that was my
number one thing. The economy would be certainly right up there.
And I think it's doing great. We were losing billions
and billions of dollars a day with Drey, and now
I have that down to a very low level.

Speaker 14 (27:03):
And two, we're going to be making a lot of money.

Speaker 20 (27:05):
We're going to be reducing people's taxes.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You reckon anyone actually believes that. Having said all of that, though,
what he did say in an article I read in
The Atlantic is he's not only running America, he's running
the world. When you run the world, you need to
know what's going on with the pope.

Speaker 14 (27:19):
I'd like to be pub that would be my number
one chose No, I don't know. I have no preference.
Say I must say.

Speaker 20 (27:27):
We have a cardinal that happens to be out of
a place called New York's very good.

Speaker 14 (27:31):
So we'll see what happened.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
So I got a letter overnight from somebody who works
at Sky. I won't give it away in case they
get themselves in trouble. Anyway, this snooker thing's been going
on within the company for a sustained period of time.
This bloke says, he claims there's a bunch of them
that have been talking to the Sport content planning team
about the snooker. Where's the snooker? How come you don't
have any snookers? So anyway, we finally got the snooker
on air and Sky released their schedule and it's all

(27:53):
over the place. I don't know why they do this.
I don't know what the point of this is. But
it's on Sky five and seven, then five and seven,
then five and seven, then five, five and six, then
five and six, then five and six, then four and
four and seven and seven and seven and seven and
seven until you get to the final day seventeen, final
session one and two it's on three. So anyway, it's
all over the place on Sky. So but we are
grateful that it's actually landed there, thank the good Lord.

(28:14):
Five away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
While the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with
business fiber and take your business productivity to the next
level instead.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Office Perks report this morning, twenty twenty five work Monitor
report looked at what employees could offer or employers rather
could offer when pay rises and bonuses are off the table.
So obviously people want pay rise and bonuses, but they
can't have them now because there's no money. Seventy five
percent of respond and said training and development are important
for them, either in their current role or when they

(28:44):
look for a new one. And do you think that's
true If you think that's a suck up answer, you
think I'd really like to be developed. Further, forty two
percent say they wouldn't accept a job it didn't offer
the chance to develop their skills. Fifty four percent, so
the employer has provided them with opportunities to grow, like
learning about AI. Is it the employer's responsibility all of this, Yes,
it is. According to thirty nine percent, they say the

(29:05):
employer must take the lead in helping them grow, and
twenty three percent say they are willing to upskill themselves.
So that's where we are on the workplace of the monment.
We'll talk to Stephen Joyce about this funnel enough after
a seven thirty what as I mentioned to Andrew earlier.
I can't quite work out what whether what Nicola did
yesterday was brave or insane, or impossible or a combination

(29:26):
of all three. But there is no money in this country.
That's becoming increasingly clear. That's why she gave the speech
she gave. Of course, it's to curtail any expectations you
might have. And we are at long last, I think,
in the presence of a government that is prepared to
take some pretty tough decisions around a lack of money.
And because I've already pushed these surplus out to twenty
twenty nine, and I don't know that I believe it's

(29:48):
ever going to be twenty twenty nine. It could well
be the twenty thirties before they get back to that.
But anyway, more with Stephen Joyce. I don't want to
spend too long with Karen Shaw, despite the fact I
do like of the Children's Minister. There's just more depression
around rang At Mariki and kids being abused in this
country is just a nightmare that doesn't seem to want
to end. But they are changing the rules, the Justice
ministers with us on prisoner's voting and we will go

(30:09):
to Canada as well. So a busy morning continues right
here on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
News, Opinion, and everything in between. The Mic Hosking Breakfast
with the Range Rover. The law designed to intrigue and
use talks dead.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Be morning and welcome into seven past seven. So the
Liberals when in Canada, they're still short, as far as
I can work out, at the moment of a confirmed majority,
they may not in fact get there. But Mark Carney
was bullish last night.

Speaker 18 (30:35):
Our old relationship with the United States, a relationship based
on steady increasing integration, is over.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
The system of open global.

Speaker 18 (30:47):
Trade anchored by the United States, a system that Canada
has relied on since the Second World War, a system
that well, not perfect, has helped deliver prosperity for a
country for decas is over. These are tragedies, but it's
also our new reality. We are over, We are over

(31:11):
the shock of the American betrayal, but we should never
forget the lessons.

Speaker 14 (31:17):
Cool.

Speaker 18 (31:18):
We have to look out for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Glebin Miles onto a bureau chief. Robin five is back. Well,
it's Robert. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (31:26):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Is he going to be a good prime minister.

Speaker 21 (31:30):
Well, that's a very hard question for me to answer.
One really doesn't know because we've seen him as Prime
Minister for only a few months and only nine days
before he called an election campaign. He certainly has the qualifications.
He headed the Bank of Canada during the two thousand
and eight economic meldown, and based on his handling of

(31:52):
that crisis, Great Britain approached him to run the Bank
of England and he managed to get Great Britain through
the Brexit crisis. And since then he's been a chairman
of a major investment bank, non investment investment vehicle worth

(32:12):
about a trillion dollars US. But we don't really know
how he's going to perform as prime minister. He's not
He has no experience, he's never held elective office, he
has no experience in retail politics. So one would assume
that given his credentials, he should do okay. But I
wouldn't put the I wouldn't put any money down on

(32:33):
any of this because we haven't had a real opportunity
to see him perform as prime minister.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
He needs one seventy two seats, he's got one sixty eight.
Do they get there or not.

Speaker 21 (32:41):
He's got one sixty nine right now, that's just come in.
I don't know whether he's going to be able. I
don't think he's going to get the one seventy two.
He may get up to one seventy maybe one seventy one,
but he's not going to be able to do that.
If he gets to one seventy one, what they can
do is to elect a Conservative as a House of
common Speaker and then he'd have his majority. But I

(33:05):
don't think he's going to reach that.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Paully had lost his seat. I assume he's gone. Way
did the Conservatives go here? What a disaster?

Speaker 21 (33:14):
Well, it actually hasn't been a disaster as much as
you might think. Certainly they expected to roll to victory
with a massive majority government for the last two years
well justin Trudeau was in power, and then when Trudeau
was pushed out by his political by his own party,
and then Donald Trump came into the White House and

(33:36):
launched a trade war against US and talked about an annexation.
Mister Carney just went way up in the polls and
looked like he was going to win a majority government.
But at the end of the day, mister Paully has
Conservatives have done pretty well. They have about one hundred
and forty four seats. He did lose his seat, but
he's going to I think he's probably going to be

(33:57):
able to survive because verily he has won more seats
than the Conservatives have won in twenty nineteen and twenty
twenty one, and the just over forty percent of the
popular vote. The last time the Conservatives said that was
in nineteen eighty eight with Brian Rooney when he won
a majority of government. So I think he's probably going

(34:18):
to be able to hang on. So it hasn't been
a disaster for the Conservatives, but obviously they wanted to
win exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Robert apreciate your inside as always, Robert five globe and
may a lot of a bureau chief the other one.
By the way, the new Democrats lad a bad night
as well. The guy sing who's the leader of that party,
he got rolled as well. It's eleven minutes past seven.
Paski government revisiting prisoner's voting rights under the last government
that changed the law, of course, to allow those in
jail for less than three years to vote. Current government
intends to flip that. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has well,

(34:46):
that's very good morning to you. Good morning, uber. I'm
well the urban myth that labor liked that because the
crooks vote for them and they don't vote for you.
Is that real or not?

Speaker 19 (34:55):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 16 (34:56):
Ah?

Speaker 19 (34:57):
No, I mean the numbers are very more in terms
of the overall vote, so it doesn't change the outcome
of elections. But what is about sending a clear signal
there Being a member of society is about rights and responsibilities.
If you breach those responsibilities to the extent that you're
sent to prison, you know, we think you lose the
right to vote temporarily until you get out.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
What about the counter argument, which says, at the lesser
end of the prison spectrum, you're going to go back
into society, you feel a part of something, you don't
want to lose too many contacts, et cetera. Is there
something in that or not?

Speaker 16 (35:29):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (35:29):
I don't think so.

Speaker 19 (35:30):
I mean, voting's not about losing contact with society. It
is a civil sort of right and an opportunity. I
think it's about sending a clear message that if you
breach those responsibilities, you should lose the right to vote. Now,
that's what it was, you know, back in twenty twenty,
at the height of Desindra Dun's soft on crime approach.
They took it that they reversed our ban and we

(35:51):
don't agree with that, and so we're going to.

Speaker 14 (35:53):
Put it back right.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
What's the timeframe we've.

Speaker 19 (35:56):
Got at once every three years is a piece of
legislation dealing with electoral matters and we're going to be
introducing ours in the next couple of months and so
it'll be passed before the next election.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Appreciate it. Paul Goldsmith won't be retrospective too. By the way,
Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister, thirteen minutes past seven asb
interesting forecast. They don't come up with a number. What
they are suggesting is regards the economy, and this goes
back to Nicola Willis's speech yesterday and the operating budget
at one point three not two point four, and two
point four being skinny anyway, in other words, painting the
picture that things are tighter than a type thing. So

(36:29):
what ASP is suggesting this morning is neutral. For the
cash rate from the Reserve Bank is not three anymore.
They're going to get to about three by the end
of the year. So a cut coming in May, maybe
a little bit more by the end of the year,
but we're about done at that point. They no longer
think that that's the case, and they're going to have
to go down further faster. They're suggesting we may follow

(36:52):
the Bank of Canada and the European Central Bank in
not issuing guidance on interest rates when that May twenty
eight monetary policy statement comes up. Because literally we have
no idea any more. What's going on? Thirteen past the.

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Of course, sixteen past seven. Now the business of treating
our kids badly seems to be growing. Oranga Tamariki have
thirteen hundred and nineteen one thy three hundred nineteen children
currently overdue to be allocated to Social worker. That in
part is because there's been apparently a forty five percent
increase in reports of concerns in April of last year,
so we've got a total of eighty one thousand reports

(37:35):
that need looking into. Now. The Children's Minister, Karen Chaw's
with us on this. Karen morning morning, How are you well?
Thank you? Is this depressing and close to overwhelming?

Speaker 22 (37:46):
I think we have to put things in perspective. What
reports of concern have increased by forty five percent? Both
case numbers you're talking about have actually decreased by twenty
four percent. The start are working really well bringing the
numbers down of those unallocated cases of social workers to children.
We're working smarter. We've got better focus in different regions

(38:10):
with their challenges and why these unlacated cases are happening.
So whilst the reports are concern are increasing, our social
workers are doing an amazing job to bring those numbers down.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Would there be multiple reports of concern around singular children?
Hence the eighty one thousand looks more alarming than it
may well be.

Speaker 22 (38:29):
Yes, some children may be counted more than once if
there's more than one reporter concern around that young person.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
How many children in this country, in some way, shape
or form, have some sort of alarming set of circumstances
around them that would require a government agency to help.

Speaker 22 (38:47):
I don't have that exact number in front of me,
but it is quite high and it is quite alarming.
But what we've also got to remember, is it's a
positive that people are reporting their concerns because when we
know about it can actually get them in front of you.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well, that's true, what's to concern them? I'm just trying
to get my head around this because I mean, this
just this is a different world than the one I
live in, sadly, But what's the report of concern? I mean,
what does that mean? Does a kid get beaten or
as you've just looked over the fence and gone, and
that looks a bit suspect.

Speaker 22 (39:18):
So a reporter consun can include all of those and
that's why they triage when they come in, and their
triage to hire a serious need to lower needs. When
their lower needs. We can often use the community, which
I've been doing in the last twelve months, setting up
more enabling community partnerships where communities can get involved so
that autoatomiticque doesn't have to intervene. Not all these cases

(39:43):
will require autoatomatic key intervention.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Does the judicial aspect of this whole thing suit you
at the moment? I mean, in other words, if these
people end up in court in some way, shape or form,
are they being dealt to appropriately or is there a
weak link there?

Speaker 22 (39:58):
I think that's where the investment with putting a massive
investment into making sure that our young people are seen
and there's a prevention for the youth justice system. We've
increased the funding when it comes to the fast Track program,
where multiple agencies will get involved early. We've increased the
funding to upgrade to the frontline technology system to enable

(40:21):
our social workers to be able to work smarter and
faster and be in front of children rather than behind
a desk. And we've increased the support staff alongside our
social workers. So whilst those numbers might sound concerning, that
twenty four percent decrease in the last twelve months of
unallocated cases shows that we're actually making progress and that

(40:43):
our social workers are doing a fantastic job keeping up
with the amount of reports concern that are coming in.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
All I can do is wish you well with it.
Karen appreciated Karen Shaw, who's the Children's Minister. There's something
profoundly wrong with this country. Speaking of things that are
profoundly wrong, I feel a bit delige to talk to
you briefly shortly about Tory seven.

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in her seemingly never ending ability to surprise, Tory Farnaw
fronts on the local ZB morning show in her beleaguered
capital yesterday and scores herself. Scores herself. What would you

(42:21):
score yourself, Tory? She scored herself nine out of ten. Now,
if she'd come from comedy, I could have seen the
joke she was making. But she doesn't come from comedy,
which is not to say her reign hasn't been comedic.
She is the Meagan Markel of local body politics, so
self absorbed she doesn't appear cognizant as to just how
destructive and useless she is. I know I wasn't even
going to comment on far now, given it's a local issue.

(42:42):
She's announced she's off, and the sooner the far era
of terror ends, the better. But but flying the ointment,
she is still standing, as you well aware, for a
seat and bringing potentially all her nine out of ten
madness with her. Now the guard rails on this part
of her future are, of course in the hands of
the public of the Capital. You don't have to have
more of this. You can, in fact vote for somebody else.

(43:04):
But I suppose the flip side of that is, in
a democracy, she's free to take her record and put
it in front of you and put it to the test.
But it takes a special sort of narcissist to think
of herself so highly having just been bundled out of
the big race, because she knows she can't win. If
she is nine out of ten, she should be bolting home.
But that's the problem with narcissists, isn't that they continue
to bluster her even when they know the game is up.

(43:25):
She has also got the wider problem by remaining as
part of the wider picture. See she puts people off.
Local body politics is crying out for decent, hard working,
competent contributors, But who in their right mind is interested
in sitting around a table with buffoons a bunch of
do gooding lifers who as often as not and not
actually able to get work in the normal real world.

(43:47):
Not all of Wellington's many problems, of course, are on Tory,
but she led the team that wrought the havoc and
the stuff she inherited. She didn't help her advice to
poor old Nick Mills, who had to listen to this
tripe yesterday was every time you see a road cone,
you see progress. See it's that sort of fairy tale,
fanciful nonsense most of us realize isn't remotely true. Maybe
that's an ultimate problem. Maybe she lives in her head.

(44:09):
In her head, Wellington is a riviera and Tory's the
queen of that riviera. The pipes didn't burst, the city boomed,
and Tory oversaw a renaissance. Maybe that's how all narcissists
delude themselves.

Speaker 14 (44:20):
Hosking.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I've got the rating for Wellington and Auckland as far
as the world's best liberal cities. This is the IESE
Cities in Motion Index, if you can call Wellington in motion,
one hundred and eighty three cities, ninety two countries, nine
areas of marking human capital, social cohesion, economy, governance, environment, mobility, transportation,

(44:43):
urban planning, international profile, technology. How you measure harp that stuff?
I got no idea. It's raught, it's crap, It's complete crap.
I don't know why they waste their time on it,
mainly so people like me can fill a couple of
seconds on this program. I suspect looks at more than
one hundred different metrics. Anyway, Auckland forty two, Wellington's sixty.
The best cities in the world. Let's go ten through one.
San Francisco. See, that's why it's crap. I've been to

(45:04):
San Francisco recently. Is it is a dog's breakfast? Singapore,
love it Oslo, Copenhagen or Copenhagen, Washington, Berlin, Tokyo, Paris,
New York, and the number one city in the world, London.
And I think we'd go so, say all of us.

(45:25):
My daughter's moving to London. She got a job the
other day. We're very proud of her. She's moving from
Melbourne to London. I thought that's a good's see they're
all leaving, they're all going. I'd done up the river
coming back. So forty percent of our children are now
in Europe. Forty percent says something, doesn't it. Stephen Joyce
on how to do a budget with no money some
tips shortly to.

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Speaker 2 (45:55):
Jiman and now I will talk to two Price about
the closing moments of the Australian election campaign. The latest
poll out this morning, which was done between Wednesday and Monday,
margin e ERA two point two. Labour's got a greater
lead than the margin of EA, although they claim and
I find it hard to believe that nineteen percent of
voters still to describe themselves as uncommitted. Labour's gain ground

(46:19):
on key policy questions around the best party, who's the
best leader, cost of living, They've all gained their voter's
favored Dutton, though on this question back in December, suddenly
they favor Albanesi, So Australians have literally changed their mind
on that. Albanesi and Labor. On key measures political performance,
communicating United teams, strong leadership, honest, competent, blah blah blah,

(46:40):
they're all leading. I don't know that that actually means
anything material. Labour's primary vote remains weaker than it was
last election, down from thirty two to thirty one, although
the preferencing will help them out State by state, party's
primary vote in Victoria has fallen. Labor is slightly higher
in New South Wales as far as the coalition primaries concerned,

(47:00):
steady in Victoria fallen in New South Wales and fallen
substantially in Queensland, and that essentially is why they will
lose on Saturday night with Steve as with as shortly
twenty two to away.

Speaker 24 (47:12):
As to date social Worker is dealing with Stephen, where forwards.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
It let's flag that shall We still trying to work
out whether what Nicola willis announced yesterday was braver and possible.
This is the budget of course coming later on next month,
possibly both. I suppose the operating allowance for the budget
next month, which was already tight at two point four billion,
has been slashed one point three paints a picture of
a country in a very tight physical spot. Politically is

(47:37):
a hard seller. Well, of course, Former Finance Minister Stephen Joyce, well,
this is very good morning morning Mike.

Speaker 13 (47:42):
How are you very well?

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Indeed, the two point four to the one point three
double question, would you have done the same and two
is it foolish or not?

Speaker 13 (47:50):
No, it's not foolish, and I probably would have done
something similar because there is huge capacity to still reduce
the outwards trend of government spending and I'm assuming in
that move they've found quite a bit of waste and
they'll be able to do something with it. And I
think in the context of that, you've got to remember

(48:12):
that the government spending is pretty much doubled since twenty
and seventeen in nominal terms, and inflation's only gone up
to thirty percent at the same time. So there's got
to be capacity there because I think most people would
say that putting out public services haven't improved that much
in seven years. It's definitely costs more because of inflation,

(48:34):
but nothing like nothing like the sort of numbers that
the PAS government are ramped it up to. So I
think there'll be capacity there. The trick is to find it.
As John Key used to say, there's a constituency for
every bit of existing government spending. So no matter what
you do, you're going to have challenges because there'll be

(48:54):
somebody missing out, but a lot of it. They should
be able to find some good opportunity.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
When she says she's found billions, I guess most of
us thought they were found last time round. Do you
believe she's found billions and we will go, oh, so
that's where it's been.

Speaker 13 (49:11):
I'm encouraged by that because actually the last time around,
you know, you didn't have a lot of time government
came in at the end of the year, you know,
budget proposals in February. Frankly, the public service is still
getting aligned with the new government. This is the first year.
Would be the year they throw out what we used
to call the Washington monuments, which is, yes, you could cut, minister,

(49:33):
but you know it would be the police, the police
boat in Wellington, which of course would be completely politically unsustainable.
So they throw up the things first that you that
you know that you can't cut. And then after a
year of work, as will have happened in the meantime,
the ministers have got a lot more familiar with their portfolios,

(49:54):
a lot more familiar with the spending buckets, and they'll
be able to make some choices. I remember the example
for me that came to mind was the tertiary budget.
When I was minister. We made a large number of
small changes to the student loan scheme over a period
of four or five years, and we funded the increase

(50:14):
in tertiary budgets across that time out of that and
gave some money back to the Minister of Finance. And
a few people were upset with some of some of
the changes that we made, but none of them were
reversed by the next government because they were all sensible changes.
So it just requires quite a lot of work, and

(50:35):
it requires ministers to have good political radar and know
what they can't shut in what they can do.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You believe the twenty nine surplus thing or not.

Speaker 13 (50:43):
Well, I think it's a good goal. Of course, it's
back from where it was, but it was found to be. Yeah,
I think you've got to have that as a target.
A lot of it will depend on the state of
the world economy over the next couple of years, but
you've got to set it. There are those already that
are saying, ah, it's the end of the world. We
should be spending more normal suspects. But that's not the
thing to be doing right now. You've got to get

(51:05):
our own books into shape. That's really really important.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
See, that's the interesting thing. So it's economics versus politics.
Is she spending political capital here or are There are
enough New Zealanders who go, yeah, it's hard, but life
is hard and it's about time we did this.

Speaker 13 (51:20):
I think the constituency for controlling government spending is if
anything increased in the last twelve months. I mean, obviously
there's things you can't touch and you shouldn't, like the
health sector and education, but in all the other areas,
I think there's a lot of things that people looking at.
I'll give you an example. The other day, the Ministry
of Education announced teachers registration costs have been covered by

(51:44):
the Crown as a pre budget announcement. I don't think
there was a massive constituency for that. More broadly, I mean,
it doesn't change much at the end of the day,
and I'm sure the teachers will be happy, but it's
not like there's a lot of constituency for the government
to announce a whole lot of extra spending for one
group or another, as there often would be at the

(52:05):
stage of the cycle. There's no great enthusiasm for it,
and that's because the public knows that our finances are tight.
The world is in a difficult place. We've got to
be careful.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
We do, indeed appreciate your time as always. Stephen Joyce,
former Finance Minister, seventeen away from eighty. I was listening yesterday.
We're talking to Shane Jones on the program. Little do
we know the upset that was been caused in another
program on this very fine station of the Country, which
is hosted by Jamie McKay. Of course, had Shane Jones
on later in the day, and this, of course proved

(52:37):
to be slightly problematic.

Speaker 24 (52:40):
Shane, You've got to do me a favor. Hoskin keeps
cutting my lunch. I arranged an interview with you a
day or so ago. This morning I hear you first
thing on Hosking.

Speaker 25 (52:49):
Have you no shame well? I and my leader, Winston Peters,
have a deep level of affection for your listenership and
you in particular. However, one third of the country's population
do live in Auckland and a facewag them do listen
to Mike Hoskins, So you know, needs must.

Speaker 13 (53:09):
What a prick?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Where do you get the name from?

Speaker 24 (53:15):
What is it about uniw Zealand? First, guys, you all
call Hosking Hoskins.

Speaker 25 (53:20):
Yeah, it could be a dialectoral thing from us from
the north. Too much Pooh and power and Delhi red wine.
I can't pull the account.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
For that, Yeah, partling fact is wrong. I just copies
Winston anyway. By the end of it, Jamie got it
back together.

Speaker 24 (53:35):
Hey, Shane Jones, thanks very much for your time on
the Country. Always entertaining. And next time mister Hoskins asks
for an interview, tell him you've already been booked for
the country.

Speaker 25 (53:44):
Okay, country first, Hoskins. Second, Bye bye, Mike.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Since you mentioned Singapore, why don't you give usn update
on their election, Well, they can't do that yet. They
haven't held it to this Saturday. And if you do
follow Singapore and politics, what tends to happen is that
the same party runs the place year after year after
year after year after year after year. In fact, the
last time they had an election, the incumbent party got
eighty something percent of the vote, and one suspects nothing's
going to change this coming Saturday, seven forty five.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
by News Talks at Me.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
It is twelve minutes away from eight. My favorite part
of the Herald, I mean, apart obviously from the regurgitation
of the Met Service press releases, is Audrey Young's annual
marking of the government. And my word is Audrey in
love with the government. As it turns out, everybody I'm
looking at here this is a must read. Everybody is

(54:42):
getting a very good score from Audrey, and Audrey knows
what she's talking about, because Audrey has been there for
three hundred and twelve years. Luxinate Winston night, Nikola Willis seven.
I'm I'm a little disappointed in that. I would have
given her an eight. Personally, Bishop nine I tend to
agree with because he's omnipresent. Simeon Brown eight, because he's omnipresent.

(55:02):
Erica Stanford eight or nine. I would have given her
an eight and nine's favorite of mine. Paul Goldsmith at
seven fair enough. I could do better, Paul. I should
have told him that if I'd read the article when
he's on the program earlier, I do better, Paul. Judith
Collins nine. Very comfortable. Probably not a leader, but in
her own realm, very very comfortable. Shane Retty, you have six.

(55:22):
See that's the worst score you've got. Guy got sacked.
He got sacked because he was useless, and he still
gets a six. That's how much Audrey loves the National Party.
Mark Mitchell eight, Todd McLay eight, done a lot of deals.
I would have given a nine personally, he's been out
there hustling for the country. Doocey. Sorry, my apologies Doocey's
you were performing national minister at five invisible. He's got

(55:44):
mental health, but I mean, what do you do with
mental health? For goodness sake? Shane Jones, the aforementioned Shane Johns,
I'm going to call him Shane.

Speaker 13 (55:52):
John's swag them do listen to Mike Hoskins eight.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Fair enough like Shane Costello six okay. C c Seymour's
and eight. Brook van Veldens are seven to Cole mckey's
a seven. They're all good scores. People outside of cabinet.
Gregg Nikola got five, but she was away for six
months on parentally, you can't blame her for that. And
Audrey also marks her down for press releases. She goes,
he's only released eight press releases in seventeen months. Well,

(56:19):
I mean is that a thing?

Speaker 26 (56:20):
Are you allowed to make people down when they're away?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
No, of course you can't, exactly, And I'd mark her.
I'd mark her up for putting out no press releases.
It's like the Met Service. The Met Service put out
premier press releases.

Speaker 26 (56:31):
Look, you know, I mean, I'm marking her down for
having a kid.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Chad Karen Chaw for seven, that's okay, mark Patterson six.
He's big on the wall.

Speaker 14 (56:39):
I like man.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
So overall you can't really find anyone within a government,
a three party government that Audrey sees is not doing
a pretty reasonable job. But anyway, I've worked through the detail.
Anytime you like, go go immediately to the latest with
the alert. There'll be one there, and then you can
read Audrey's piece nine away from eight.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range of a villa
news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
We'd have seen I was reading yesterday. Inbicago has no polls.
Cost of getting a poll registered and in Picago irks.
Some people are doing some local feedback in Inbicago. Anyway,
it comes out that cost turner forty five to register
a pull. Turner forty five dollars to register a pull
and Inmbicago, but there are very few pulls. Guess how
many pools are on inbic caagol. I'll tell you shortly

(57:23):
meantime up the road to christ Church, I've got more
good news from christ Church Electric Avenue. Remember that in
February Music Festival ten and a half million dollars and
visitors spend, so that would be a record A fifty
one year record in fact, because that would make it
the biggest spend since the nineteen seventy four Commonwealth Games.
Seventy five thousand people walk through the gates at Hagley Park,
sixty three thousand visitor night's ninety eight percent of the

(57:44):
city's accommodation book. That's not bad. A christ Church, New
Zealand or christ Church ends it's general manager for Destination
and Attraction. Lauren Aberhart's with us. Lauren, a very good
morning to you.

Speaker 23 (57:53):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
What's the magic Because in Australia music festivals are dogs.
They've gone No one goes anymore because they like to
go to a singular event. What's the magic of Electric
I think.

Speaker 23 (58:04):
It's a mix of getting really good content but also
the location, the fact that we've got inner city urban
environment with the park where you can go and have
a festival experience that stay in nice. Accommodation is what
people are paying for.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
And has this got growth left in it or is
this as big as it gets? Do you think.

Speaker 23 (58:25):
We're looking at what options are for growth. It certainly
had the city bursting at the sete, So we're currently
undertaking some accommodation research to see you know whether or
not we can grow, and certainly planning a head for
one New Zealand stadium opening to make sure that the
city's got the capacity to cope.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Because ninety eight percent's full for all essential purposes, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (58:46):
Yes, and not just commercial accommodation. We're sort of talking
about people's backyards with vans and you know, all sorts
of billeting going on.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Isn't that exciting? The stadium and yours were you or
your sense of what it's going to do as far
as visitor standing and people coming to town are concerned.

Speaker 23 (59:07):
Yeah, we're incredibly exciting. We're looking at about fifty million
dollars as the economic impact pouring and from the stadium.
I think that's really conservative. The visitors spend will be
quite significant, especially in twenty twenty six. We've got a
huge program of events that we're working with the News
Autotacky on. Then we're going to get that place pumping.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
It feels very exciting. Every time I talk to someone
in Christchurch, you get excited about Lauren. Appreciate Lauren Aberhart,
who's the gem of destination attraction for christ ten and
a half million dollars I don't have time to give
you the poll number for Rimbercargill. But here's the interest. Well,
actually I do. There are sixty three on the council's register.
But wait, the majority of them are spars, because spars

(59:48):
are polls, which is a stupid rule. It's a stupid rule.
You've got to register your poll anywhere. It's an even
more stupid rule than a spa is a pool. So
if you take the majority, the majority beings from sixty three,
I reckon, there's twenty pools in Umbergau in all of
them piccago is I think that's twenty pools. What would
you do with a pool and in Vocago swim? What
are you saying, Glenn? What are you saying? In Vericago's

(01:00:09):
so cold, miserable you don't want to pull? Is that
what you're saying, Glenn?

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I don't think Lynn likes some Boccado does he Politics Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Shortly setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the
mic HARKing breakfast with al Vida, retirement, communities, life your
Way news tog said, b.

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
Talks out of school, making.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Waking up in hospital. It been in the seventies now
would't he ah.

Speaker 14 (01:00:42):
Ar kiss the girls, smokes the mag.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Smoked some h smote a bit of h for the
idol dreaming into it. Hard to believe this is only
his ninth studio oil, But I don't know what he's
been doing. It's not like he hasn't been around a
long time. He's got April Levine, He's got Allison Mosshart,
who's from the Kills. He's got Joan Jet could be

(01:01:07):
of a similar age to him. I suspect it go
the old mates. Nine tracks as that is, so he's
only done nine albums. In honors, night held me drums
up nine tracks for thirty four minutes and forty five
seconds worth of Billy.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
I quite wake.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
So it's got us something about it that I mean.
I won't listen to it. It won't be on my stick.
I'll never hear this again. But for here and now,
I'm just in the other. If I was at the
Matacana Pub with a pillsner and this came on, I think, yeah, no,
this is a good said halfnon. That's one thing. Now
where am I? Jinny Anderson's with us along with Mark.

(01:01:46):
Make sure good morning to you both. Good morning morning,
good morning now Mark, have you read the Audrey's Annual
review of I just got a visit, so.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
Might's probably going to ask you about Audrey's in your
review's cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Yeah, is that from directly from lucxn's officers. That was
one of my Well she's got Now I got a
text and I'll declare it. I got a text from
my wife who goes it should have been a nine,
and I texted her back and said, I agree because
my I don't mind. I don't mind on this very

(01:02:24):
neutral radio program espousing my love for you because I
love you and I think you're doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
So thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
What would you Jenny, Jenny, in the in the spirit
of the morning, what would you mark them?

Speaker 21 (01:02:40):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (01:02:40):
Where do I start?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Well with a number, that's what I'm just asked. Well,
we have your market out of team.

Speaker 9 (01:02:46):
I think that organized crime being out of control means
you can't have a night. I think you can't because
organized The Ministerial Advisory Group have said that they've lost
the fight on organized crime.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
So we still you one off, one off for the
lone organized crime. So you're down to it.

Speaker 9 (01:03:01):
I think at least at least two point five. So
I would say, given the fact that he's yet no sex,
I think the point five is we can go into
other things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
On the point five, there's been the most of your cabinets.

Speaker 9 (01:03:14):
The bomb bomb, the bomb tasting, the young person whose
stocks brings them down point five.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
So he's okay, So we Jenny hard, JENNI hard sex
hard six. I've got say, Jenny, if you read have
you read Audrey's piece?

Speaker 9 (01:03:31):
I read it. Yeah, I thought it was very generous.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
I have to say, well, you would say that, and
I get why you would say that, but but she's
a seasoned pro and when you compare her marking of
this lot to her marking of your lot, she sees
something there that I suspect you guys should be a
bit worried about, doesn't she.

Speaker 9 (01:03:50):
Well, I felt that there were markings of some of
those ministers that were ignoring some pretty blindingly obvious failures.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Tea Audrey is our most experienced press gallery journalist. She
is tough, she's hard, and you can't get much past.
For that reason, I'll take Genny six because that was
probably the highest previous leaving.

Speaker 9 (01:04:16):
I think it was a bit more than that. Being
Margnet so very generously. I was pretty kind with my sex.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I felt you, Mark will not give anything away. But
are you happy? Do you know what you're getting in
the budget?

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
I do, But yet, like you said, I just can't no, no, no,
I'm not going to ask you to so you know
what you're getting. Has Nikola found the billions in savings
that she claims she has.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
Well, I mean I can talk about the savings that
she's had to make immediately, and that was quite simply.
Obviously we've gone We've had to reduce the operating allowance
from two point four billion to one point three billion,
and of course primarily due to the lower forecasted growth,
and that's the result of we've had to change administration
in the States. With the tariffs sort of happening around

(01:05:04):
around the world, we've projected lower tax revenue. However, the
reality of it is we have to do that because
in twenty fourteen, we went from fifty eight billion, sorry
from twenty seventeen, we went from fifty eight billion dollars
in debt for US as a country to one hundred
and seventy five billion through to twenty twenty four and
we're paying We went from a three point six billion

(01:05:26):
dollar a year interest bill to an eight point nine
billion dollar a year. We cannot afford that. That's more
than the annual core well, it's more than the annual
core grant expenses for police corrections, Ministry of Justice and Customs.
We just can't afford it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
What are you going to do, Jenny? Because on on
budget and I saw chippies trying to warm himself up
for this task. You can't, honestly, on budget day go
we were have spent more here, more there, more there,
and more over there and borrowed yet more.

Speaker 9 (01:05:56):
Or will you do you think I still want to
know one point three with she's left that that's still
got to have the cancer drugs taken out of it?
Isn't that creak?

Speaker 10 (01:06:06):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
So does that leave likeero point three billion for the
entire budget? I think that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
If you're correct the cancer was six the cancer was
six hundred, So it leaves you with one point three
minus six, which is seven right, not point so that
my question.

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
I read one article this morning that said it was
down to point it's problem what would have been promised?
My question is what's left for the keeping the lights on?
I mean they needed about one point.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
For I'm asking Jenny, I think it's the savings. If
she's found, if she's found billions in savings, and we
can you know, go, I get it as opposed to
the problem.

Speaker 9 (01:06:44):
We've got the same problem. So the savings last time,
just in the Wellington economy are locally so they cut jobs.
There's a lower text take. They've got less money, they
make more cuts, they lose jobs, there's a lower text take.
There's less money, and we keep going in a downward spiral.

Speaker 16 (01:06:59):
What is it?

Speaker 9 (01:06:59):
What's going to be the thing that stops this downward
spiral and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Taking a break? And you can answer that in the moment, Mark,
Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Talks a B.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Well, it's next Wednesday, sixteen past eight. Right, Oh, Mark,
your answer to that, I mean, it's true about Wellington.
But if you haven't got the money, you haven't got
the money, have you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Oh, it's just going to say the reason our debt
is so high is because labor had no appetite to
control spending when they're in government, and that's why we
now have an increase of one hundred and seventy five
to one hundred and seventy five billion dollars in debt.
We have to start returning ourselves to service, which means
that we are to surplus, which means that we have
to be responsible.

Speaker 27 (01:07:40):
And this government is.

Speaker 6 (01:07:41):
Measured careful and purposeful in the way that we're doing that,
whereas if you look at the other side, when Trump
came out with his tariffs, they panicked and said, oh,
we're going to start borrowing that. That's their default setting
is borrowing more money and splash it around. We cannot
afford as a country. We're a small country in the
bottom of the world. We do extremely well. We've got
a great future ahead of us, but we've got to
be responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Our research department, Jenny got on to your zero point three.
Was it the ASP's reconfiguration of the economy suggesting the
government cutting to one point three would take zero point
three percent off the economy.

Speaker 9 (01:08:13):
No, it wasn't. I was reading the car Cup by
Bernard Hackey, and he deducted what they'd promised so far
to look at what the overarching amount was that they
had to work with.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
And he's Bernard Hickey worth reading. I haven't read him
for a long time.

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
Yes, I think he's good. He is a mid summary,
he is a bit left leading. He lives on one
hecky island.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I just watched them last time out. I watched him
at the Reserve Bank press conference and he asked these
really wonky questions and I thought, Bernard, you're a bit wonky.
But then again, I suppose that's what you do at
the Reserve Bank press conferences, don't you.

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:08:46):
But to get back to your point before, there's no
plan from this government on how we get growth. Saying
growth again and again isn't a plan. So we want
need some wealth generation in our country in order to
be able to afford the services that have been cut
left right, and see in term the different the gap.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Is that they would argue the economy will provide the growth,
as opposed to the government providing the growth, and that
is the contest of ideas, isn't it the leader?

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
But we're not seeing that, and we're not seeing any
plan or any proposal on how to get key industries
on New Zealand growing, So talking about it's a good
example is the video game development rebate forty million invested,
there is a of the rebate and that industry will
go to approximately seven hundred and fifty million for our
economy this year, and that's from about four or five

(01:09:32):
hundred million. So that's an example where government support in
an area has paid off well in advance of what
was put in. We need more examples of that to
grow economy, not just Nicola talking about going for growth
has got to be more to it than a slogan,
and right now they don't have that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Well, let's just look at what she's done.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
She's in the.

Speaker 9 (01:09:56):
Closing today.

Speaker 6 (01:09:57):
Well, hang on a second. We've got an trust rates
are coming down, Inflation is now down within the target range.
We're delivering free trade agreements around the world, new markets.
We're making sure as a government we get the settings
right to allow a private sector to grow and flourish
and have confidence to continue to invest. And we inherited

(01:10:18):
a very difficult set of books. We inherited a few headwinds,
but we're optimistic, we've focused and we're working hard to
make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
We do question quick question for you, Mark. Have you
had a word to James mega At about his brain
explosion suggesting somehow the government was going to help fund
regional affairs up and down the country and what he
was thinking of when he said that, No, no, I haven't,
but it's normal to South Island.

Speaker 9 (01:10:42):
It's I've noticed behind the camera, like a vigorous nod.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Important when the lead with Ginny, as you would well
know when the leaders doing a press conference, to not
and here's a tip for you, Mark, by the way,
get on to them. And despite the fact that Audrey
gave him nine, Chris Biship looked as bored as the
old proverbial when he was standing behind Erica the other
day making her announcement, he looked like he wanted to
kill himself. He's got a smile, he's got to stand
up straight, and he's got a nod. I'll provide it feedback.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Look, James's doing the outstanding job.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
He's been a great gyman of the Justice Sleek Committee,
deeply passionate about the South.

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
The treaty princes outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
He's doing a great job. Okay, if he comes up
with something specific on how to get to Parmeston to
Omooru directly at a really cheap price, do let.

Speaker 14 (01:11:28):
Us know it's good that.

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
I think it's good that it's good that he's out
there hustling in trying to look for solutions to the regions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
That's good news. All right, Nice to see you guys,
Mark Mitchell Juniors.

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He chatted about many topics with our early twenty year
old kids. He was both interesting and interested. It's a
nice report, isn't it. Speaking of airlines.

Speaker 20 (01:12:59):
This way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You should never report on social media as stuff did yesterday.
And this came out of the Air New Zealand thing
and how expensive it is to go from nowhere to
nowhere and all that, you know, the usual thing. So
they were comparing on social media a newsroom. Grabbing stuff
from social media and purporting it to be news these
days is the laziest form of journalism and unfortunately it's
too often the case anyway. So on social media people

(01:13:21):
were bitching as usual about Air New Zealand b Jetstar,
so Jetstar prices for flights on the same day from
Auckland to christ Church. So there was one flight at
ten past four on Air New Zealand three hundred and
thirty four bucks seventy dollars with jet Star at eight
pm four hundred and eleven dollars with Air New Zealand.
Jetstar was sixty. The person online said, seriously, in New Zealand,

(01:13:44):
you need to think about your pricing. So here's the
antity your problem. And this is why I don't understand
why people don't join a couple of dots.

Speaker 16 (01:13:51):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
If you see a flight on Air New Zealand for
three hundred and thirty four dollars and you see a
flight on Jetstar for seventy, what's the your problem? Book
the flight on Jetstar for seventy and your problems now solved.
Bitching about something that you weren't going to spend your
money on solves nothing. And if you want to go

(01:14:13):
at eight o'clock and you see four hundred and eleven dollars,
but then you can see Jetstar ten minutes earlier at
ten to eight for sixty dollars. Once again I offer
you this piece of advice, pay the sixty and go
with Jetstar instead. Of sitting on social media all day.
Game debates In Australia, there have been four of them.

(01:14:35):
The first one was on Sky. Four hundred and ten
thousand people watched, which gives you an indication of how
few people watch Sky because it's behind a paywall. In Australia.
The ABC ran the second one at one point seven seven.
These are one point seven seven is and okay, that
was not a great number for a leader's debate, trying
to tell you how interested or otherwise people may or
may not be in the Australian election. Channel nine held
the third one at two point one that's a real number.

(01:14:57):
Your two point one year, the top program at the week,
Channel seven last one a couple of days ago two
point four million. So the interest is building, the numbers
are there, the polls are out and the days are closing.
The campaign trail will wrap it up with Steve Price
in a couple of moments after the news Your News
talks hereb.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,
the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the la
designed to intrigue can use togs d B.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Well, I'm going to raise this story this morning, because
it's my main question is how does it get to court?
So there's a truck driver, a guy called Leon, and
the question that's not answered in the story, which I
think is the most pertinent one. So Leon, back in
twenty nineteen, was on a swing in Marterton's Margaret Street Reserve.
So Leon's a truck driver. Why is Leon on a swing?

(01:15:48):
Surely that's the question of what answered, isn't it If
I was the judge? Good morning, everybody, please be seated now.
My first question for you Leon is why were you
on the swing in the first place. That's what I
want to know. Swing broke, fell off, hurt his tailbone.
As a result of that, he decided to sue the
council for two point four million dollars, claiming, of course

(01:16:09):
the council didn't do any work on the thing and
they shouldn't step anyway. He affected his ability to work
as a truck driver, couldn't get any sleep, mental health
was affected as well. Originally it was one point seven million,
but then he upped it to two point four. Unfortunately,
the council produced its maintenance locks, which deserves me. There's
that much paperwork floating around about swings. But anyway, they've
got maintenance logs for the two years prior to the incident,

(01:16:31):
showed that the two requests to fix the swings, a
broken seat and a twisted chain, were quickly followed up.
So things are happening in Marsterden. Congratulations here anyway, caught
through it out? How's this stuff gets to court? And
you wonder why? Obviously the wheels of justice turned slightly
and too there's a massive backlog in courts in this country.
It's because people like Leon are falling off swings and
suing the council for two point four million dollars and
losing twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of
mind for New Zealand business in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Are a good friend, Stephen Price, Very good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (01:17:02):
Good day there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I was reading the poll or one of the polls
this morning. It seems aforegone conclusion. Are you going to
tell me it's still too close to call? They also
claim nineteen percent of voters undecided. Do you reckon that's true?

Speaker 27 (01:17:15):
Probably? The election campaign's probably been the worst in history.
No one has been inspired by either of the leaders.
That's a real part of the problem. I went and
voted yesterday at a pre poll in the Teel seat
where Monique Ryan's in all sorts of trouble will get
on to her in a moment, and the number of
people there was extraordinary. I mean the queue meant that

(01:17:36):
I didn't care, but I had to stand there for
about thirty minutes being harassed by Green's candidates laughing because
I was there voting and trying to shove out of
vote cards in my hand as I told them to
all bugger off. But the last count was four million
people who voted already. Now that's an extraordinary number. And
I've been trying to work out exactly why all these

(01:17:58):
people are going to pre pol including Meat. Well, I'm
not going to be in my seat on the weekend,
so that's why I did it. And you have to
have a reason. But the AEC, this Electric Commission doesn't
seem to ask anybody, and so the number of people
voting early would be bad news, particularly for Peter Dutton,
who probably is going to try and pull a rabbit
out of the hat in the next forty eight hours,
and anti Albert Easy, who's just hoping everybody ignores the

(01:18:21):
election and goes back and votes, so they did last time.
It is too close to coll I mean, you and
I might speak on Monday and I might look like
a fool and Poles have got these things wrong. But
there seems to be some sort of a comeback this
week for the coalition. A lot of people have parked
their votes with one nation which is surging in its Senate,

(01:18:43):
its candidates in the Senate, which they may pick up
four or five senators. So these things are always fluid,
you know what. It's like something can happen in the
next forty eight hours. I remember very famously one of
the John Howard elections where an illegal refugee boat end
up in Darwin Harbor on and suddenly it all changed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
So yeah, that is true, but although correct me if
I'm wrong soon. But what I always think of Morrison,
of course, but there was that. I just don't get
the sensors that mood. They don't hate Elbow enough to
make history and boot them out after one term. They
don't love Dutton enough to go you're our man and

(01:19:22):
you can fix all the problems. We were allegedly worried
about six months ago until Elbow called the election.

Speaker 27 (01:19:28):
I buy half of that argument. They don't like Albanez,
they think he's a weak leader, but they don't believe
that Peter Dutton is their guy. Peter Dutton is a
person that's quite hard to sell you personally up close,
and personally is a very nice chap. He's been police officer,
worked as a detective domestic violence. He attended lots of

(01:19:50):
domestic violence cases. As a businessman, he and his dad
did very well in childcare centers and Queensland. So he's
got all of the attributes. But he's a tall, bald
headed broke and people, women particularly go I don't like
the look of him. I mean, and as stupid as
that seems, it's real. That's what quite often happens in
these elections. I don't like to look at the person.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
It's funny you say you're standing in line. Yesterday I
got a text I was in Brisbane over the last week,
saw the voting line at the town hall. It's bordering
on immoral. The amount of political party workers harassing people
in the voting line. Is that true? Because we in
this country are laws. Nothing happens on voting day. You
can't talk about it, you can't interview people. No one
hands out anything, no one does a thing. It's almost

(01:20:34):
like a religious experience, which is in stark contrast to
your life. Are you hassled and does it bother you?

Speaker 15 (01:20:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:20:40):
Well I'm hal because I've got to face that people recognized.
But yes, people do get hassled. I mean you had
to park four blocks away from this pre pol yesterday.
It was extraordinary. The number of core flutes they call them,
those election posters everywhere were extraordinary. And you mentioned volunteers
harassing people well too, Ti Olimpis, Manique Ryan in particular

(01:21:03):
in the seat that I was in yesterday. And now
we find out Clara O'Neil, the Housing yes doctor Manik
Ron the Housing Minister, they've been caught out using Chinese
Australians as recruits to go and hand out how to
vote cards on election day. And there's a real concern
about the Chinese influence in all of this. I mean,

(01:21:25):
if they're ringing up Clara o' neil, the Housing Minister,
saying will Manu polyingboot's on election day, this sort of
shady Chinese group that influences what Chinese people do when
they live here in Australia. Then what's the quid pro
crow back the other way if she wins the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Seat exactly so they are investigating. There's a ACO and
Federal police and AAC and all thats INVESCO. So Monique Ran,
how would you describe her? Because she took Freinberg's seat
and became famous for that, and yet she just seems
to be trouble.

Speaker 27 (01:22:02):
Google Monique Ryan and put your masks on. That'll tell
you everything you need to know about doctor Menique Ryan
standing in the House of Representatives during COVID, shouting at
the opposition. Put your mask on. Put your mask on,
like some schoolmar who wants to tell everyone what to do.
And now she'd been caught with these Chinese recruits as well.

(01:22:24):
She's been running away from TV cameras. She refuses to
talk to Sky News because she thinks we're the right
wing demons of the Australian media. I just hope of
all the results got I care, of course, But if
one reason I want to see his young eMedia Haymer
knock off doctor Monique Ryan, that would make me a
very happy man. The other one just quickly a teal

(01:22:45):
MP on the northern beaches of Sydney by certain name
of Soapey Scamps, another one of the two Climate two
hundred people. She's in all sorts of trouble. A young
rugby league player up there during the summer training period
by the name of Keith Tipmus died after training. She's
been on tape at a doctor's for the Environment conference,
suggesting that poor Keith Titmas passed away because of the

(01:23:08):
effects of climate change. Now his family has just absolutely
hit the roofs and if she survives, I'll be very surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Very interesting, just real quickly. Do you know Kim Williams
personally the chair of the ABC.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Is he a good bloke? It's just I know that
he's a mate. As it turns out, there's the funniest story.
He's a mate of Ostentatious, who is a guy in
real life, and Sandy Gutman, who he's a comedian anyway,
because he's a mate. This guy Ostentatious is doing his
tour around Australia and it ended up eleven times on
the ab SE stations regionally promoting his show and at

(01:23:43):
pears Old Kim rings the local radio stations and going.
The mate ostentatious is in town. Can you do an
interview that doesn't strike on as potious Stephen, No.

Speaker 27 (01:23:52):
He might renew if he's doing a tour in New Zealand.
He seems to have an extraordinary relationship with mister Williams
Kim Williams. For a brief period of time, time was
the Australian see of News Limited. The editors of the
various papers managed to shove him out the door. He
worked at the Sky for a while as well. He's

(01:24:12):
a lover of classical music. Composer right and a pain
in the neck.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Really good to see you, mate, We'll catch up next week.
I appreciate it very much. See Price Out of Australia
eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Two minutes away from NME. Mike, awesome to watch Higgins v.
Williams live. Last night shows the power of the media.
Mitch very pleased we're able to help this as the
snooker on Sky. They're covering all of the sessions from
here until the end of it. All you've currently got
when we say Higgins and Williams Mark Williams the Welshman
class of ninety two, Higgins of Scotland class of ninety two.

(01:24:56):
So that's the shame is the other The fourth quarter
is Wakeland the joo so to be blunt, a couple
of nobodies who have somehow scraped through the quarterfinals. The
other three are fantastic. Ronnie's up against She's your Way
and he's up six to two. Trump's playing Brissel, he's
up five to three. And then you've got the aforementioned

(01:25:18):
Williams Higgins. So you'd be hoping, I'm sorry to lose
a Williams Ora Higgins, because they're both brilliant. But Ronnie's good.
Ronnie's in the state of mind. Is watching an interview
with Ronnie yesterday, still in his own head, you know
how some sports. But I remember Michael Campbell used to
sort of second guess himself all the time. Lando Norris
is the same. He sort of second guesses himself all
the time. And things are going well, but keck.

Speaker 26 (01:25:40):
Michael Campbell used to call them aliens, didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Yeah, alien head but they think too much about it.
And Ronnie's doing this, he thrashes the other guy kills
him and he comes down. He goes, oh, he's all right.
Lock hughes, God, Lock hughes. I don't like any of
m U's. I haven't got tips for this. I don't
know what's going to happen.

Speaker 26 (01:25:55):
Have we ruled out that he might actually be suffering
from multiple personality disorder?

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
And he may well be a lot of things. But anyway,
the upshot is he's beating si Jahwai six to two,
so he's going to be a good number. Is he's
almost through to the semi finals, so a lot of
people are backing him to win. Anyway, the important point
is I'm very pleased you're pleased that the snooker is
on the television, as it should be. More importantly than that,
I've done a little bit more research into the Inbicago

(01:26:21):
pool situation. When I last left you just before eight,
it was sixty three registered pools in Inbicargo, the majority
of which were sparples. Glenn suggested to me he would
be surprised and they weren't all sparples. I have the
definitive number of actual polls for you next nine to nine.

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pasking twenty four. In all of Inbocargo, there are twenty
four pools. How many do you think are indoors? You
think indoor outdoor polls? There are different rules for indoor
outdoor pools. I saw a house the other day with
an indoor pool. I thought, is that a good thing
to have an indoor pool? Mind you? I saw a
house the other day with a climbing wall, like a

(01:28:10):
professional climbing wall, not just to muck around climbing wall,
a professional climbing wall inside, and I thought, how many
times would you use that before you thought a bit boring?
And you can't do anything about it at that point, Kingdom,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 26 (01:28:27):
I don't, and I don't know if it's a good
idea to train your kids to do that sort of
thing too professionally, because before you know it, they'll beat
they'll be trying some kind of takeover.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Ye, that's true. It's very good point Glinn didn't think
about that five minutes away from Nome trending.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
Now with the squarehouse, you're one stuff for Mother's Day
fragrances and you have.

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
To register your climbing wall with the council. That's what
I want to know. Now you see me movies there
were two of them, made one point two billion on
a budget of one fifty million, so they got a
third one. That's what they do. It's called now you
see me. Guess what they call it? Your now you
see me? Now you don't. Who wants to see a
magic trick?

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
According to that card?

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
For some reason, I need you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Why about the other horseman?

Speaker 13 (01:29:10):
The other horsemen are dead?

Speaker 14 (01:29:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
What no, no, no, they're like dead to me. Things
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Speaker 24 (01:29:15):
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Speaker 27 (01:29:20):
Well, what makes this diamonds so special?

Speaker 26 (01:29:22):
Because a magical tarot card told her, if you want
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lift her wallet.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
My horsemen, they were brought together for a reason.

Speaker 24 (01:29:34):
We'll be getting brings down two generations of criminals with
a single slide of hand.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Eight magicians against a worldwide criminal network.

Speaker 27 (01:29:46):
I like our chances.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Sounds fun. Eisenberg. I picked his voice as well. He's
annoying but quite clever. Does the same thing every time.
But then that's the thing I guess, isn't it, Like
ask you, Grant Isle of Fisher's in there, Rosamond Pike,
I love her, Woody Harrelson's love him Freeman, same every time.
Daniel Radcliffe, I'm off him. I like jk Rowling better
on the rolling the Redcliffe side, I take rolling in theaters.

(01:30:09):
November the fourteenth, we'll return tomorrow morning with even more
of this, as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
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