Full Show Podcast: 4 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agendas and digging into the issues. Heather
Do for ce Ellen on the mic, asking breakfast with
Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial, and
rural news talks had be.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Morning and welcome. Coming up today, the grim state of
how New Zealand's books are laid bare. There are five
hundred million dollar surplus and may turned into a nearly
billion dollar deficit by midyear. We're going to ask the
chief executive how this happened after seven no trouble getting
people wanting to join the cops, the Police Association on that,
We're going to talk to Ashley Church about why we've
got all of those ghost houses, about eleven one hundred

(00:35):
and eleven thousand of them, and Carrington will wrap the
week after eight.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Ever do for Cea Ellen.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know, I don't think that we give enough credit
these days. So here's a little bit of credit. Erica
Stanford fully deserves her ranking as Cabinets MVP, Player of
the Year, Player of the Day, number one performer. Whatever
you want to give her, she deserves it. The CEOs
and the directors who gave her that ranking. In the
mood of the boardroom yesterday, can clearly see what we see,
which is that she is putting the common sends back
into education. She's getting rid of the weird stuff that's

(01:03):
been going on there, and she is doing it with
absolute haste. It's not an easy job to do, by
the way. I mean, she makes it look easy, but
it isn't. Actually. The education portfolio is a portfolio that
ranks up there, kind of not quite as high, but
not far behind education a sorry health as a no
win portfolio. You know, ministers are lucky if they can
make it through the term without being demonized, and that's

(01:25):
largely because the teachers' unions are some of the most
obstructive players out there, and us parents, frankly don't help.
We've all got an opinion on everything to do with
our kids. But Eric is almost taking the Roger Douglas
approach of moving so fast that opponents can hardly catch
their breath long enough to fight her properly. But then
it's not just the politics that she's managing to do
quite well on this. She's actually got some wins under

(01:46):
her belts already, and that's impressive. It's less than a
year into the term. Most noticeably, the ban on phones
and schools. I mean, do you remember when they first
pitched that and how we poo poed it and we
kind of made a mockery of it. Have a look
at it now, look at the success the thing has
turned out to be. But what I think is most
important here is how badly we all know that she
needs to do what she is doing. That's what really

(02:07):
makes her the MVP and cabinet. Education is vital the
warehouse is chair. Joan Withers ranked education in her top
three concerns for this country because if we don't get
it right, kids will not have the same opportunities that
we did to get ahead. Regardless of where you start
in life, education is your way out, and we know
that we're not getting it right at the moment. You
can't have more than half the kids failing maths exams

(02:29):
and thinking that you're getting it right. So Erica deserves
her ranking at number one because she's good and she
is fixing it clearly, and we badly need her to
fix it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Hurrican Helene deathtole continues to rise. This recovery volunteer describes
what she sees.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
The street is completely flooded. Everybody on the street whilst
everything there's houses that are still standing but they are
completely damned.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Which Kamala Harris is on the job though.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
There's a lot of work that's going to need to
happen over the coming days, weeks, and months, and the
coordination that we have dedicated ourselves to will be long lasting.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, but it isn't going to be easy.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
Don't have sales service email tips.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
All that have come to challenge in the cow slow
spins down. Now over to the Middle East. While Israel
are figuring out the Iran situation, they have attacked the
center of Bey Route for the first time since two
thousand and six.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
There were paramedics other emergency service workers sleeping.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
Out there, we are told.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
When it was struck at one thirty.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Last night by the Israelis, local residents saying they heard
three blasts.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Biden was asked if there is absolutely anything that the
US can actually do to stop Israel hitting back at Iran.

Speaker 7 (03:48):
What a plan to allow.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Israel's straight back and gets run first.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Well, we don't allow Israel. We the advisor is reel
and there's nothing going to happen today. We'll talk about
that later.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Now, just how far away and this is a question
everybody wants to know, just how far away is Iran
from having its own nukes.

Speaker 9 (04:05):
It's a show that it can make weapon grade uranium.
It's fishing quantities for a nuclear weapon within within days.
My own estimate is in about six months they could
put together a crude nuclear explosive device.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
And finally a piece of Beetles memorabilia could hit the
seven figure Market's an electric guitar now. It was played
by Jims Harrison in the early days of the Beatles.
Known as one of the holy grails of historic guitars.
It's going up auction now. It's a futurama guitar with
a sunburst finish, if you know what I'm talking about.
And back in nineteen sixty four, George Harrison donated the

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guard to a guitar to a rock magazine. It was
part of a competition prize, but it stayed with the
rock magazine editor because the competition winner actually didn't want it,
just wanted a cash prize instead. It is expected to
go for around one point three million New Zealand dollars
and that is the news of the world. In ninety seconds,
I mean, this will be no surprise, because this is
something that's I'm always kind of pleased when I see it,

(05:01):
though the Empire is still shrinking and unpleased. I guess
I don't know why I'm pleased. I actually have no
idea why I'm pleased. The UK is announced has announced
it giving up its sovereignty over a cluster of islands
in the Indian Ocean called the Chagos Islands. It's going
back to Mauritius, England. The UK's had it for ynks
because they had all of Mauritius obviously Ynks. But in
nineteen sixty eight they gave Mauritius its independence and then

(05:23):
they kept the islands, and Mauritius are never happy about
this because they felt that they were over a barrel.
They had to hand the islands over in order to
gain their own independence was part of the deal. But
now they're going to get it back. And what's included
in the islands But obviously they don't get to keep
this as a US government military base for Navy ships
and long range bomber aircraft. So not only is it

(05:44):
now back with them, but it's also strategically very important.
Thirteen past six.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
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Speaker 2 (05:56):
Apparently we've got, as I was telling you just before,
we've got about one hundred and eleven thousand ghost homes
across the country. This is according to this massive dump
of census data that came through yesterday. Lowest proportion of
ghost houses is in Auckland at four percent. Ycuttle's got
quite a lot eight point eight percent, but that'll be
the Corimandal Beach houses that they count as ghost houses
if you're not in them all the time, which you're not,
because it's a batch, isn't it. Northland ten percent is

(06:18):
quite high. I don't know why. Might be a bunch
of derelict houses West Coast and Marlborough more than eleven
percent quite high as well, and probably could well be
the same thing old houses no one lives in anymore. Anyway,
we'll have a chat to Ashley Churchy's with us after
half bus six getters take on it sixteen passed. Don't
want you and kelliher Jamie I Wealth JMI Wealth rather

(06:39):
is with us.

Speaker 10 (06:40):
Hello Andrew, Yeah, good morning, Heather.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Are you watching this big market moving event? Tonight in
the US.

Speaker 10 (06:45):
Oh yes, I am very excited. This is the US market.

Speaker 11 (06:48):
Yep, big market moving event, this evening their non farm
payrolls number of their monthly key labor market metric. Now,
there's a bit of context behind this, heather, and that's
the US Central Bank Federal Reserve.

Speaker 10 (07:00):
They've still got a dual mandate. Now, remember we used.

Speaker 12 (07:03):
To have that.

Speaker 11 (07:03):
Our central bank used to have to look at sustainable
maximum sustainable employment and inflation, and we got rid of
that here, but they've still got that over there. And
in the recent fifty basis point move cut in the FED.

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Funds rate, their companying commentary seemed to.

Speaker 11 (07:19):
Slightly shift the Feds focus from inflation where they're comfortable
things are moving in the right direction, towards employment, towards
ensuring that the labor market, the jobs market, isn't put
under too much stress. So in that context, the job's
number is very important. But we're also operating this environment
of central banks, or most of the central banks, who
are declaring themselves to be data dependent. So what that

(07:42):
does is it raises the stakes around these important events.
Now I'm just having a wee little look at data
that's been released this week relating to the labor market,
and it's been over in the US been pretty resilient.

Speaker 10 (07:53):
So you've had what's called jolts.

Speaker 11 (07:54):
It's their job openings data that was higher than expected,
so more jobs than expected. Then you get this think
called the ADP Employment Change, it's an independent measure of
the private set to labor market that was higher than
expected as well. And overnight we've had jobless or continuing
claims that's people receiving benefits. That's stayed pretty steady, so
it's not indicative of a weaker job market, which suggests,

(08:15):
and it's always dangerous terror to do this, that non
farm payrolls could be Okay, we're expecting a number of
one hundred and fifty thousand, that's new jobs created over
the month, and their unemployment rate to stay steady at
four point two percent, and they had a read overnight
in their services sector.

Speaker 10 (08:30):
It came in at fifty four point nine, so is
still expanding.

Speaker 11 (08:33):
I do also just need to quickly mention Heather the
oil market overnight, because they're all getting a little bit worried.

Speaker 10 (08:39):
Now.

Speaker 11 (08:39):
I haven't been able to find these comments, but apparently
Biden overnight was talking about discussions with Israel over whether
he would support Israel striking Iran's oil facilities. Now i'n't
be able to find those comments, but the oil market's
a bit worried about this general instability, So Brent Crew's
got just starting to creep higher.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yeah, I thought it came through earlier yesterday. I thought
basically he just said absolutely a flat nose. So I
don't know why they're too worried about that.

Speaker 10 (09:03):
No, exactly, I can't find the comments.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
But interesting, Okay, I'll keep an eye for it. Hey,
the IMF report on Australia. What do you think?

Speaker 10 (09:11):
Yeah, well, this is soapbox Friday. Here, the soapbox Friday.

Speaker 11 (09:14):
I'm going to I'm going to augmentor or add another
facet to the current tax debate here because this story
peaked my interest because of the sort of burgaining discussion
we're having around capital gains tax, well tax, and the
actual debate is around broadening the tax bait but tax base.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
But look, this week the IMF have.

Speaker 11 (09:30):
Released their regular audit on Australia. Now they do this
on all their member countries, the sort of health check
I think our last one sort of pointed the finger
at our terrible record on productivity and high lowed the
importance of the education system, which you've been talking about
this morning. Anyway, the IMF is suggesting a complete overhaul
of Australia's tax system.

Speaker 10 (09:51):
You know how well.

Speaker 11 (09:52):
They're suggesting that they could phase out fifty two billion
dollars worth of superannuation tax concessions, but also nine seen
billion dollars worth of capital gains tax discounts.

Speaker 10 (10:03):
Now this is heady stuff, but I think we need
to take note.

Speaker 11 (10:06):
And the reason I say this is because once you introduce,
in New Zealand's case, a new tax, say capital gains tax,
you actually open the door to ongoing refinement and adjustment.
Because what may look acceptable on introduction, you know, i's
we say, oh that's okay, we'll bring it in like that,
but remember subsequent administrations. Now you give them another leave

(10:27):
at a pull, all of a sudden, they've got something
else they can do and they can change. Now, the
issue in Australia is they can't raise enough through company
and personal tax for their projected spending, which is not
dissimilar to our challenge. I think our current tax system
is pretty simple, but it also had the highlights that
this issue of sustainability of crown or government obligations, it's

(10:47):
not a problem that we're dealing with in isolation.

Speaker 10 (10:49):
This is actually a global problem. But just be careful
what you wish for when you bring a new tax.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And I couldn't agree with you more on that, Andrew,
thanks very much for saying that. Give me the numbers, right, So.

Speaker 10 (10:59):
The Dow Jones is under a little bit of pressure.

Speaker 11 (11:01):
It's down three hundred and eightyen points as I look
at it, that's about three cores of percent forty one thousand,
eight hundred and seventy seven. The S and P five
hundred down thirty points, about half a percent five six
seven nine, and NAS that down sixty two points.

Speaker 10 (11:14):
Seventeen thousand, eight hundred and sixty two. That's about a
thirty percent.

Speaker 11 (11:17):
Overnight fort two one hundred lost eight eight to eight
two the close there, the nicket gain just under two percent.
Happy Days thirty eight thousand, five hundred and fifty two.
The Chinese market is still shut China China National Day
over there last saw week. They're not opening until next week.
A SX two hundred up seven eight to oh five.
We had a good day in the NSX fifty straight
up point nine seven percent, twelve thousand, five hundred and

(11:40):
sixty seventy two. The close there Kiwi dollar, little bit
weaker against the US dollar points sixty two one seven.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
Little bit weaker against the ossie.

Speaker 11 (11:48):
Point nine oh seven, seven point five six three seven
against the euro point four to seven three seven against
the pound one New Zealand dollars by ninety one point
twenty five Japanese yen gold two thousand and six hundred
and fifty eight. You were still stay steady there and
break crude there seventy seven dollars and forty one cents.
We don't probably don't want to see that creep up
too much more.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, too right, Andrew, go ahead, enjoy your weekend. Thank
you so much, mate. That's Andrew callaher JMI Wealth. Heather
Northland has got a huge holiday home count, which actually
is a fair point. I had forgotten that there are
lots of holiday homes. But probably the best weather in
the country up there, isn't it. More data out of
the census is what I found particularly interesting is the
working from home numbers. Now I'm not a fan of
working from home, but everybody else's apparently, because about one

(12:31):
in six of us workers mostly work from home, mostly
being I would imagine three days plus at home, do
you know what I mean? Because less that, if you're
working any more than that, then you're mostly in the office,
aren't you. So that doesn't even count the people who
are just working in the office, like working at home
some of the time. These are the ones working most

(12:51):
of the time at home. Anyway, This was twenty twenty three,
so it may have changed this year. Is probably going
to change in the next few years as we kind
of drive people back to the office. Wellington and Auckland
in the last five years between censuses have nearly doubled
in number for the number of people who are working
from home. Wellington went from twenty five thousand in twenty
eighteen to fifty six thousand last year, and then Auckland
went from seventy two thousand to one hundred and fifty

(13:12):
nine thousand. How about that six twenty.

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Speaker 2 (13:29):
Right, We've got a new Robbie Williams biopick, and this
one's a little bit weird. To get used to this,
get ahold of this ka. It's called Better Man. It's
directed by Michael Gracie. He did The Greatest Showman. Why
that's important is because when he and Robbie were speaking
about the biopick, Robbie said he often sees himself as
a dancing monkey. So Gracie took that to the next level,
and in the film, Robbie is played by a Planet
of the Apes style monkey.

Speaker 14 (13:50):
I know what you're thinking, what's with the monkey? I'm
Robbie Williams. I'm one of the biggest pop stars in
the world. For you, but I've always seen myself a
little less evolved.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
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Speaker 5 (14:24):
You've got to risk it all, whatever it takes.

Speaker 10 (14:27):
It takes hours.

Speaker 12 (14:30):
Your house is fine.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
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Speaker 2 (15:01):
Richard Arnold out of the States, is going to be
with us shortly before this half hour is through on
Health New Zealand. This is some of the biggest news
of the day yesterday and certainly today as well. Worse,
the books are far worse than we thought. I mean,
I think we knew that they were in trouble, but
probably not to this extent. They just recorded a deficit
for the year to June of a billion dollars. Nearly
now March, they thought that they had a surplus of

(15:25):
about five hundred million bucks. By June, they have a
deficit of nearly a billion dollars. How does it happen
that fast? And we were literally talking about a matter
of weeks, what's it like, twelve weeks or something like that,
and all of a sudden you've gone from having a
fair amount of cash to having absolutely no cash, and
then you're also in the red for a billion dollars. Anyway,
we'll talk to Margi Upper who is the chief executive

(15:45):
about that after seven o'clock. On the bright side, and
really is trying to find a silver lining in this.
On the bright side, they were also given five targets
by the new government. This is Health New Zealand, and
they seem to have struck most of those targets or
in pro those targets, except for one. The one that
has gone backwards is immunization coverage of kiddies at two
months or two years. Sorry, it's gone slightly down seventy

(16:09):
seven percent down to about seventy six and a half.
This is none of the stuff is moving much. Shortest
stays in the emergency department's got a little bit better,
people waiting more than four months for a specialist assessment
got a little bit better. Cancer pation starting treatment within
thirty one days got a little bit better. The one
that moved the most is people waiting more than four
months for a specialist procedure. That has increased. That's reduced

(16:30):
by three point seven percent, and so that's the biggest mover.
But you can see like we're not talking about a lot.
Having said that, it's only in the space of three months, right,
so you're only going to get incremental changes. Anyway, Margie
up is going to talk us through that when she's
with us shortly twenty one away from seven. Now we've
got a little bit of rare good news on the
property front. This is all the stuff out of the
sense to start, I'm going to run you through some
of the sense of stuff. It's absolutely fascinating what's come

(16:53):
out of it. Our homeownership rates have increased for the
first time since the nineteen nineties. Back in twenty eighteen,
sixty four to a half percent of us owned a home.
That is now sixty six percent. So it's not huge.
But the important thing here is it's turned the trend around,
right because we did not expect this to happen. Since
the nineteen nineties, we've basically watched as home ownership in

(17:14):
this country's fallen away, thought well, that's how it's going
to be, isn't it. We're just going to turn into
a nation of renters. And then all of a sudden
things just tick up in the different direction. They think
it's partly down to us going nuts during COVID building
and buying and you know, just trying to get houses
into our portfolios and trying to get ourselves into houses
and stuff like that. Carterton third highest home ownership rate
at eighty percent, then the Selwyn district at eighty and

(17:36):
a half percent, and then why Makeredi highest rate at
eighty eight percent. Basically everybody in the Weimac district owns
a house. Second lowest in the country, though surprisingly, is
Wellington at fifty nine percent, and then the absolute lowest
is Hamilton City at fifty three and a half percent.
And I don't quite know how you can explain that,
but in Hamilton most people rent by the looks of things. Now,

(17:57):
if you we're all getting excited about AI, right, I
don't know if you're like me, Oi, I this is
exactly what I'm about to say. I don't know if
you'll like me. But when people get so excited about something,
I automatically think something is wrong. And I'm not excited
about AI. And I've tried to use it. If you
try to use it, Glenn, it doesn't do your job
very well, does it.

Speaker 15 (18:17):
Well?

Speaker 16 (18:17):
This is the thing.

Speaker 17 (18:19):
There's a lot of promises being made, and you know,
and I know that whole businesses seem to change their
whole way of doing business around using it. And yet
every time I've gone and even been near it, I've
sort of gone, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Because until AI can press a button for you and
record the nonsense that comes out of Mike's mouth, I
was gonna say mine but it's actually not its Mike's.
Unless it can do that, it doesn't take over of
your job. And this is the point actually that we've
got to get to. There is a big warning about
getting too caught up in the hype around AI. There's
a chap called Darren Simoglu who is an economist at MIT,

(18:53):
not the Manecow Institute of Technology, by the way, just
in case you're wondering, he's also the guy who wrote
the best sala Wy Nations Fail. Now this guy has
he's a lot of smart stuff comes out of his head.
And the latest smart thing is that he's warning that
we're in for an AI crash basically because we're overstating
the potential, because we're telling people like Glenn that AI
is going to take their jobs from them, and actually

(19:13):
it's not going to take the jobs. It's not going
to take your job, or my job, or Glenn's job,
or basically anybody's job. Maybe it will take about five
percent of jobs, and even then it's not going to
take them over completely, right. It might just might just
massively assist in the completion of the tasks that you do.
It might not even take over your whole job. Five
percent of people's jobs affected by AI is not an

(19:35):
economic revolution in the making. But this is not how
businesses are behaving at the moment. Like business is going
completely nuts about it, aren't they investing huge amounts of
money billions in some cases going into it, building huge
data centers that they're going to cost us trillions of dollars.
It's going completely nuts. So what this chap thinks is
going to happen is that when we realize finally that
it's not going to live up to its potential, there

(19:57):
will be a massive crash. The only question is when
do we realize, and by that stage, how much money
have we put into it. The best case scenario is
that we realize in about a year's time and then
we haven't actually put all that Like, we'll put lots
of money in, but not that much, and so we
have a bit of a tech crash, a tech stock crash,
and then that's it basically over and done with, and
we carry on and we sort of, you know, use

(20:19):
it in a middling way. The worst case scenario is
that it goes on for absolutely years. We pump hundreds
of billions of dollars into it, we talk it up
we talk it up, we talk it up, the stocks
keep going up. We are wasting money, We're laying off people,
replacing them with AI or trying to, and then we
realize it's not going to do it, and then the
crash that comes after that is much much bigger. So
next time you hear the hype, go M I don't know,

(20:42):
is it just that question? If the chap from MIT,
not manic our Institute of Technology is questioning it, maybe
we should to. Seventeen away from seven, The.

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Speaker 2 (20:56):
Heather Wellington and Hamilton are both university cities that will
explaying the home ownership rates. That's from Rachel Hei the
thank you for saying that about AI. It's a nauseating
hand ringing fad. That's from David. Look at that for
Peter's a truth coming at You're fourteen away from seven.

Speaker 18 (21:11):
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Speaker 2 (21:17):
Richard Arnold, US correspondent with US Morning. Richard, Hey there, head, Okay,
what do you make of the Trump the new filing
and the Trump Jan six stuff?

Speaker 19 (21:24):
Well, there's a lot in it. We're talking one hundred
and sixty five pages that have just been put out
by the prosecutor, Jack Smith. You know, they say the
wills have justice did slowly. It is almost three years
since the Capital riots of January the sixth, So here
we are just over what four weeks from the twenty
four elections. If Trump wins this thing, he will no
doubt end the criminal case against him. If he loses,
this will go after court. But none of it happens

(21:46):
before the presidential election. So much for the justice system.
It is a race what prosecutors should do, especially after
the conservative dominated Supreme Court intervened and ruled that a
president cannot be criminally charged over official acts. Were Trump's
actions on that day of the riot? Official? Well No
argues that the prosecutor much of what Trump did then

(22:07):
could never be called official. Smith has just issued this
lengthy document making that argument, and he includes some new
details about what happened on the day. He says, when
Trump was told that the capital had been breached and
his vice president, Mike Pence was in danger for his life,
he said, quote, so what the attackers who were threatening
Pency's life came to within fifteen meters of the VP.

(22:29):
At another point, Trump was heard telling his daughter and
son in law, quote, it doesn't matter if you won
or lost the election, you still have the You have
to fight like hell.

Speaker 15 (22:39):
That's what he also told the crowd.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
We fight, We fight like hell, and if you don't
fight like hell, you're not going to have.

Speaker 15 (22:46):
A country anymore.

Speaker 19 (22:47):
Well, five people died many were injured on that day,
including one hundred and seventy four police officers. Now, Trump
says he's going to pardon those who were found guilty
of crimes. How would they decide who gets out of jail?
Trump says he the Donald would be the one who
decides it, makes the call. Four officers who responded to
the attack took their own lives Within seven months of

(23:07):
the events. Property damage caused by the attack has succeeded
four point three million New Zealand. This comes as the
Kamala Harris campaign has just released a campaign ad using
a clip from the Vance Walls to Bank this week.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
This ad, it's really rich for democratic leaders to say
that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy.

Speaker 15 (23:26):
Twenty peacefuls to the over power. He is still saying
he didn't lose the election. I would just say to that,
how did he lose the twenty twenty election? Sem, I'm
focused on the future. That is a damning non answer.

Speaker 19 (23:39):
Well, former Republican Leadership member Liz Cheney is off campaigning
with Kamala Harrison Wisconsin today, so that's how the will turns.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Well.

Speaker 19 (23:47):
Milania Trump has a memoir coming out later this week
where she defends abortion rights, so in sharp contrast to
her husband.

Speaker 12 (23:54):
Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when
it comes to this essential right.

Speaker 19 (23:59):
So Trump, the former First Lady split over one of
the most significant campaign issues.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Richard We now officially can say that Hurricane Helena is
worse than Katrina. Can't be based on the death toll.

Speaker 19 (24:10):
Well, it's getting up there. They're comparing it to Katrina,
probably second on the list because Katrina was just so, so,
so devastating. But the death toll from Hurricane Helene keeps
going up. It's now more than two hundred people dead
from the floods caused by the storm this week. Scores
of people still are missing. A local mayor says they

(24:32):
expect the numbers to keep rising. Roads and communications are out.
President Biden took a survey by air of the damage
in North Carolina and says the recovery cost will be
into the billions. No one as yet has realistic numbers
on any of this. Biden and Harris are visiting storm
effected spots in Georgioram, and Biden also is heading to
Florida today. You know, the Dixon family say they were

(24:54):
among many who were caught by surprise when the creek
behind their North Carolina home became a raging torrent before
I knew it, and the homeowner's father was swept away
to his death. Another man says his wife still is
among the missing.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
He looked outside and there was a thirty foot tall
wall of water and rocks and tree debris just coming
at us, and it just knocked out straight down with
all of us in it, and we all got washed
down river. I crawled around screaming looking for it, and
I just couldn't find it.

Speaker 19 (25:21):
You know, Biden has sent in a thousand active duty
troops to help.

Speaker 13 (25:25):
Well.

Speaker 19 (25:25):
Jose Andres also was on scene. He is remarkable. He
is the chef who in recent times turned into a
one man led relief agency. He had food set up
in Poland, you were call for fleeing Ukrainians. He had
food trucks that went into Gaza and Haiti earlier on
and now he says of the situation in North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
His hundreds, if not thousands of roads, it's hundreds of
bridges broken.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It's the devastation is so huge. But you are creative,
you don gifa.

Speaker 19 (25:53):
Yeah, this man is amazing.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Richard's good to talk to you. Enjoy your weekend. Thanks
so much, as Richard Arnold US correspondents. Seven, We're gonna
have a little chat to Principals Federation because what we're
about to find out today, we're gonna get a clear
idea today what we can afford to build on our
school properties and whether we've been doing it wrong. And
I think we know I've been doing it wrong because
we've had a bunch of school properties, classrooms, pause, relocations, moved,

(26:17):
co locations, canceled, all that kind of stuff. So after
seven o'clock, chat to the principles and just see if
there is a better way of doing it than the
way we've been doing it. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Ever, Dolzellen on the my casking breakfast with our Veda
retirement Communities News togs Hea'd be.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Hey, this is a kind of a weird one in
terms of punching above our I don't know what's the same,
punching above our weight. Yeah, that's the right one, isn't it.
We're actually doing really well in acne apparently globally, so
while the rest of the world are seeing acne rates
go up, we are seeing our acne rates decrease. It
could be a couple of things to blame for this.
Could be that we are actually just leading better lifestyles,

(26:55):
like eating better food, getting outdoors a bit more, doing
all that kind of stuff. But maybe we're just not
counting it as well. Maybe we just have stopped going
to the dermatologist. We'll have a chat to the Dermological
Society after I round about quarter past seven about that.
Here's I'll tell you what. So I've been going through
the Sense of Starter because there's some interesting stuff in there.
And it's the first time that we've counted the Rainbow community.
So we know one in five people are part of

(27:15):
the Rainbow community, and we've got you know, the tide
Al Mardi speakers increasing. It's about two hundred thousand people now,
got siggy smoking rates down half since twenty thirteen, so
you can kind of get a snapshot of what's going
on in the country. This is I can't keep my
head around this. Landline use has dropped dramatically, right, It's halved.
It's halved in the space of five years, which is

(27:36):
pretty significant. In twenty eighteen we had sixty two percent
of people with a landline. We currently have thirty one
percent of people with a landline, who has a landline,
who actually is rolling a landline in their house. I
haven't had a landline since I moved out of my
mum's house. And what was that. I was eighteen years old.

(27:57):
I went back a few times to dida't night to
get more washing done, so twenty one years old and
moved out and they have not had a landline number
since then. And I don't understand in what like Okay,
I can understand if you're sort of a certain age
you still need to have one because that's that, you know,
the cell phones are complicated. I get that, but thirty
one percent. What's going on New Zealand four away from
seven all.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
The ins and the outs, it's the fiz with business
fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Unfortunately, September was another bad month for retailers. This comes
from Worldline data. It found that last month, consumers spending
on care retail merchants excluding hospitality was down three point
four percent. That's compared to September last year. Now, it
was thought that the recent OCR cut and maybe even
another one next week, would start to open the doors
again and the spending would get going, but so far
that hasn't been passed on. Seventy one percent of members

(28:47):
failed to meet their sales targets forty two percent, so
that they're uncertain if they're going to survive the next
twelve months. So now there is big pressure on Q
four of this year, which usually has got a strong
December and also is the busiest long weekend period the
year between Black Friday and Cyber Monday. From Black Friday
until Christmas, when thirty percent of all annual retail sales happen.
There is still some hope. Regionally, the place is doing

(29:09):
at the toughest of Southland that's down twelve percent, South
Canterbury that's down seven and a half percent, and Bay
of Plenty down five and a half percent. Heather, lots
of places still don't have cell phone coverage. Hither we
have a landline as we don't have cell phone coverage. Okay,
so farmers, farmers, farmers and older people I can get that.
I think some parents have it just in case you

(29:30):
need to get a hold of the child who hasn't
got a cell phone. And that makes sense as well
child has a landline. You can't access pawns through a landline.
So yes, Health New Zealand with us next.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
They us bold opinions, Heather due to Sea Allen on
the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut
from a different clath News Talks dB.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Hey, good morning to you. Mike's back with you on Monday.
Now to the news. The dire state of House New
Zealand's books has been laid bare. It turns out the
deficit is near a billion dollars and that is worse
than expecting with us Now is House New Zealand's chief
executive Margi Upper Hey, Marjie, Oh, good morning. How did
you guys go from expecting a surplus of about five
hundred million bucks in March to then a deficit of

(30:17):
nearly a billion dollars in June.

Speaker 12 (30:21):
Probably three key drivers a comment on heaper. We certainly
recruited a head of budget, so we have ended the
year with over our four thousand more clinical staff, of
which half a round and budget. We did have someone
off that landed in Q four, which on reflection, we
really should have smoothed junior year, which would have made

(30:43):
our monthly financial show that we weren't as in as
positive a position as we were, and we've made different
decisions and of timing the we got. We ended a
period of gene still into yet about four hundred and
nineteen million pays, which has some receieve we've gotten that

(31:04):
last weeks.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So if we take take out the one offs, take
out their pay equity, and take out the staff that
you recruited early, does that mean that next year, next
financial year, the one that we're in at the moment,
we won't have a deficit.

Speaker 12 (31:22):
We're working to try to get back to budget, but
we don't want to. You know, we've got good clinical
staff and place, so we want to make sure that
we're getting really big value out of the time of
our clinical frontline people and in particular achieving targets because
that's that's the big delivery priority for Health New Zealands
to meet those short weaight times.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
That didn't sound like you were super confident you're going
to be able to get back into surplus.

Speaker 12 (31:47):
We're we're tattoed. So we've managed to stop our cost growth,
particularly in this past quarter, so we're tat title stabilized
in this quarter. The rest of the year we do
the take out some costs. We've got to also balance
that with making sure we deliver on the targets and
use the kind of call workforce that we've gone Madia.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
You guys still losing more than one hundred million bucks
a month.

Speaker 12 (32:11):
We're spending at a rate of more than one hundred
million a month. Yes, and there's some that hasn't changed
the initiatives we've got underway. It's plateaued over the last
this quarter.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Okay, So okay, So it was growing beforehand, it's now
not growing now. It's just sitting at that level. But
you've got to bring that down, don't you.

Speaker 12 (32:28):
Yes, yes, we need to reduce our call all right here.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
On the bright side, on the targets, you have managed
to hit four of the five targets now not by
a lot, right, So is that just because it's over
only a three month period, it'll just keep keep adding
all the little increments together and at the end of
the year looks bigger.

Speaker 9 (32:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (32:44):
And we also Q four is also our winter season,
so we do tend to see it's a passion of
not seeing the kind of grower improvement over this period
and there'll be a little bit of the tipstay over
the July August. Yeah, we're still seeing some winter volume
through y through hospitals in particular.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Okay, Margie, thanks very much, appreciate Marjorie Upper Health New
Zealand Chief Executive.

Speaker 15 (33:05):
Together Dup c Ellen, we should get.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
A clearer idea today of what we can afford to
build on our school properties. Back in February, you may
remember the government launched a review of school property systems
after a bunch of classrooms and buildings started getting paused.
New Zealand Principles Federation. Leanne autanais with us now.

Speaker 20 (33:20):
Hey, le Anne, oh good morning here.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, and I imagine that what we're going to find
out today is we've been wasting money and far too
much money on all of the stuff like the design
and all that stuff. Before we even get to building
the classrooms. Is that what you think?

Speaker 20 (33:32):
Well, look, first of all, I was interviewed by the
review team led by Mary mcaullay earlier in the year,
so I can share what I said at that time
to support a property plan going forward. I'm hoping they
took heed of that advice because school principles and boards
and the public have been concerned about property, school property
for some time, so we welcomed the review. We you know,

(33:54):
we're talking about school property, infrastructure, public infrastructure. There is
the response ability of the government. So I'm expecting that
money is going to be ring fenced for education because
this is a state set because at the end of
the day, we want all our children coming to healthy
and safe environments so that principles and textis can get
on with the job of tecting and learning. Our young

(34:16):
people deserved have the best.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Do you think that the answer is to go for
something a little bit more standardized than a bespoke design
for every single school, So like, this is what a
classroom looks like, this is what a school layout looks like.
We just roll that out.

Speaker 20 (34:29):
Well, look, we need a long term plan for property.
You know, we need to be proactive so that we
have quality environments. We need to have confidence in our
public schools have you know, like I said, healthy, safe,
fit for purpose infrastructure, and that just means warm and
dry classrooms. We also need to make sure that those

(34:49):
schools that are prone to flooding or poor drainage need
specific support to ensure all is done to eliminate any
of the risks going forward. So you know that's extremely important.
But you know, key to all of us Number one
firstly is the health and safety of our children as paramount.
So I'm hoping that this report and everything in it

(35:10):
is on that basis of you know, that is the
basis of all decision making. Say, for example, ventilation. We
found out during COVID that many of our schools are
not upstand it, so you know, adequate ventilation and summer
and heating and winter. Another is mold. We had an
example of where the Minister visited a special school earlier
in the year in saw mold and we thank you

(35:32):
for giving money to fix this problem. But we've got
other schools with similar problems. Rural schools. We see that,
you know, reticulation in rural schools needs to be attended
to so wastewater and freshwater is of high quality. So
it's talking about our old stock, what's already out there,
and also planning for the future because we know we've

(35:52):
got role growth as well that we have to deal with.
And there's plenty of examples of where we meet we've
got kids squashed into old dent meaning in a way, it's.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Not just about what we do in the future, is
how we fix the stuff we've already got. Leanne, thanks
very much, Leanne Ortonny, who's the New Zealand Principles Federation
President ever du for see Allen Jamien O'Connor has put
out a tweet. Damian O'Connor putting out tweets is usually
something that we should all be a little bit afraid of.
This time, it says, I removed the retweet. Now this
is the retweet that's got him in trouble about the
Palestinian situation where he basically said Palestinians he retweeted somebody

(36:24):
saying Palestinians were completely justified and doing whatever they did
in October the seventh said, I removed the retweet. Nothing
justifies torture, kidnapping or killing of innocent people. Not before,
on nor after October seven. I do not condone such behavior.
Understanding why atrocities occur is critical to prevent repeats. To
feel like a sort of trying to make an excuse,

(36:44):
champ or whatever. As UN Secretary General says, tit for
tat attacks must stop. It's not an apology, it's not
even an admission of guilt, but it's something. Something's better
than nothing, Isn't it so well done? Damien fourteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
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Speaker 2 (37:06):
The Police Association is with us after half past seven,
talk us through those amazing recruitment numbers at the moment
seventeen past seven now turns out that we are the
only country, as far as we know, in the world
where acne rates are actually falling. Everywhere else they appear
to be going up. And to explain why we have
Louise Reiker from the New Zealand Dermatological Society with us
right now.

Speaker 21 (37:24):
He Louise, good morning, Heather.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
So can we put this down to just us having
a better lifestyle, cleaner food, getting outdoors, more or less pollution,
that kind of thing.

Speaker 21 (37:34):
That would be very attractive wouldn't it that When you
look at the details of the research, they based it
on the number of people who attended healthcare appointments with
respect that they're acne. So then you think, is it
because people don't have as much atney or they're not
as bothered, they're not going for as many appointments. Could

(37:55):
it be that because New Zealand actually is the head
of the world in providing access to the best medication
for acne as a treat one that would be attractive
because that would show that having broader access to effective
treatment for people really does make a huge difference to
healthcare workload but also more importantly to patient disease burden.

(38:19):
But another explanation might be sadly, because our workforce is
so short that it's too hard for people to get
into appointments, and therefore you don't get the numbers recorded
about coming to a team to an appointment about that, yeah,
possibly an appointment.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Possibly we don't even want to pay for the appointments
because we're broke at the moment. How do we actually
find out then, how do we know for once and
for all whether we're actually doing well or not well?

Speaker 21 (38:46):
We'd have to set up a complete new epidemological study
to assess that.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Oh okay, so it's good job.

Speaker 21 (38:53):
That's not the nature of the study that was undertaken
compared to the right across the world.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Louise, while I've got you, did you see this thing
on social media the other day where they are recommending
that people that they being social media nutters who recommend
that people with acney go and get a sunburn or
sit in a tanning bed to get rid of it.

Speaker 21 (39:13):
No, I didn't see that to you. Wow, you aren't
going to sid as getting a sunburn. We do know
that the sunlight is a minisuppressive and it will help acne.
But you can get the improvement without the sunburn by
putting on a non oily sunscreen before you get out
and get to that door exit.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Ah okay, so at the heart of a bit of
sun is a good thing. Just too much sun not Louise,
Thank you appreciate it, Louise.

Speaker 15 (39:38):
Rik it.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
New Zealand Dermatological Society on the landlords, landlines, land lines?
Did I open a can of worms of water here?
The landlines are the only things that will work in
an emergency. Your cell will go down long before your landline.
Hither we've got no cell phones and coverage and we've
got spotty internet. Not all of us live in a
crappy city.

Speaker 16 (39:57):
How did they text you that?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yep, obviously you do because you send a text here.
The monitored security systems need a landline. I hate it,
but one needs one for one's home and one's batch.
It does one one does here that we get a
free land line with rural Internet provider. Isn't it okay?
Listen if you get if the if the guys say
to you, I'm going to give you broadband and you're

(40:20):
gonna get a free land line, why did you take it?
Because that's like somebody coming to you and being like,
if you buy this car, you can have this sock.
Why you don't want the sock?

Speaker 5 (40:30):
Why?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
But in your head it's a bit of deal, now,
isn't it, Because you've got a landline, but you actually
want the landline. So you know what's going to happen
as the polsters are going to call you and that's
just going to irritate you all of the time. Twenty
past seven, The.

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Speaker 1 (41:49):
Heather Do for cels.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Seven twenty four. Do you know what do you know
what's more boring than talking about a capital gains tax
is talking about superannuation, isn't it? And yet here we again,
we're talking about it again and how we need to
take the super off the sixty five year olds again
because of what happened yesterday. Now, what happened yesterday was
that for a brief minute, the two major political parties

(42:11):
almost found consensus on super but it only lasted a
few hours. So Nicola from National said to Barbara from Labor,
we should have a chat, and Barbara said, okay, we
should have a chat. And then Barbara thought about it
over the next few hours and she's like, sh nah,
don't really We'll have a chat by sh nah, don't
really agree with that idea, which I think is a
wise move from Barbara actually, to be honest, because taking

(42:33):
super off sixty five year olds is unpopular and it's
probably always going to be unpopular as long as we
keep running a welfare system that's so generous in this
country that people are now pretty much expected to spend
an average of thirteen years on the doll It is very,
very hard to convince hard working tax payers that when
they get to their golden years, they should give up
that little bonus that they get at the end of
their lives. They should give that up because we need

(42:54):
to save money. And then they look down the road
and they see some of them taking the mickey and
the sunshine forever on the doll. I think it's a
hard one to push that one. And by the way,
while we're on the consensus politics, I do not rate
this idea. I don't care whether it's in super or
housing or transport. I hate it. I think voters deserve choices.
I think you should be able to decide if you

(43:15):
want to cycle lane or if you want to road.
You might want to cycle lane. You should have that choice.
I might want to road. I should have that choice.
I think we should decide if we want to have
three story houses pop up next to us on the
property next door without any consent. I think we should
decide if we want super taking them away from us
or not. I don't want the politicians actually getting between
themselves and stitching up a little deal and then leaving
us no choice and saying deals, mate, we've reached a consensus.

(43:37):
Just gonna have to have it this sway. That's not
what I want. It's counter to the very idea of democracy,
which is that you have ideas running against each other
and you as the vote to get to choose which
one of the ideas you like. So, frankly, good call
from Babs. Consensus politics can frankly take a hike, and
good luck pushing that stupid super debate again, Heather, do
for se alan here that we got free socks with

(43:57):
our flights last week. Oh lord, imagine if that was
what they were like, Hey, if you you can either
pay one thousand dollars for economy, but if you upgrade
five thousand dollars to business class, we're gonna give you
this free pair of socks. That's basically the landline argument,
isn't it. You don't need it, got a whole drawer
full of socks, but now you want the pink socks
for me in New Zealand, don't you. On politics, looks

(44:20):
like the government's going to make a big announcement on
housing today, so just keep an eye out for this.
As being reported, it's gonna announce today it's going to
underwrite developers so they can get building because quite a
few developments recently have fallen over or being put on
hold or just canceled all together, just because it's hard.
You know, interest rates are up there and people are
not buying houses and so it's too much risks. So
from Monday, apparently the government's going to take applications, give

(44:43):
them a yes or no within weeks, and then give
them some money to help them out, basically underwrite it,
and basically we'll give the developers some certainty as to
whether they can take a risk without taking a bath.
Keep an eye it's coming out today After eight o'clock,
we'll have a chat to Kerry and Tim and wrap
the week. And next up we stalk to the Police
Association about those police recruitment numbers, news dogs that'd.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Be demanding the answers from the decision makers. Ken then
Duplessy Allen on the Mike, asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 16 (45:26):
He'd be hey, so n PC.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh, by the way, the credit card statements of all
the MP's have come out. There is some interesting stuff
going on and there I'll run you through some of that.
We'll get a minute, you know, very shortly MPC. Now
yet another MPC club is ditching the big grounds this year.
Remember how the Lions left sky Stadium, which is the Caketon.
Obviously they went to Portador and then Canterbury went to

(45:49):
the a mp show Grounds. Auckland has now decided it's
going to ditch Eden Park. It's going to go play
at Auckland Grammar's number one field. And basically the thinking
is the same for all of them. Might imagine, which
is this too many emptyc and it just makes the
whole thing look stink And it's much better if it
looks like they're actually people turning up. So they're going
to make a festival atmosphere at Auckland Grammar. They're gonna
have the face painters and slides for the kids and
the whole shebang, so it becomes more of a thing. Right.

(46:11):
The question is obviously whether this is the future, and
I suspect it may well be. I don't know that
the broadcasters are going to love it, because it's harder
to film if you haven't got that infrastructure like you
do at the stadiums. Anyway, I'll have a chat to
Jared Bear who's of Auckland Rugby. He's the CEO there.
But but I think, you know, it brings me to
a bigger problem with MPC, which is I just feel

(46:32):
like we have this is not a revelation. You've probably
experienced this which has lost interest in it having me
because when I was looking at this, so was this
said something along the lines of the Auckland goals are
going and I was like, what the hell is the
Auckland goals? It's actually our MPC squad in Auckland, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (46:49):
Well?

Speaker 2 (46:50):
The fact that I don't even know what my MPC
squad is called Towsey, there's a problem in it twenty
one away from it.

Speaker 11 (46:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Well, despite all of the doom and the gloom, it
turns out cops are having no trouble attracting recruits. More
than thirteen hundred applications were made in July. This is
the most on record. And to keep up with the demand,
the copers are going to increase the capacity at the
training college. And with me now is the Police Association
President Chris Carhill. Hey, Chris, good morning, Heather. So have
we been all proven wrong with the warnings that if

(47:18):
we give them poor pay, they're all going to go
to Australia.

Speaker 8 (47:21):
Well, I think we have to say the proofers in
the pudding.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
Definitely.

Speaker 8 (47:25):
We haven't seen a big exodus, which is a little
bit surprising because the office are good. But I suppose
the attractions of far now New Zealander are paying off.
So that's a positive. And look, you have to say
these recruit numbers. You know, there's some provisers I'll talk about,
but again it's very positive to get those sort of numbers.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
What's the what are the provisos?

Speaker 8 (47:46):
Well, I think the three reasons that we're getting this.
One is clearly the state of the economy. Police are
singers with stable employment, so that's going to be an attraction.
The second is police change the couple of rules. One
is that you don't have to have a full license
since when you're apply you have to before you get
to the college, but not befohen you apply. And the
second is you don't have to be a New Zealand
citizen anymore. You have to be only a New Zealand resident.

(48:09):
So I think that's made a change in what seen applicants.
So the real key figure will be what's the conversion
rate of applicants to actual recruits. Currently it's about twelve
percent of applicants go on to join police. So we
just need to see that those figures at least stay
the same percentage of ESE. And if they do, we're
certainly going to get a lot of recruits.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
When do they actually drop out? Do they drop out
before they go into the college or afterwards?

Speaker 8 (48:35):
Now before they go in, So there's a lot of
people will apply and then they just don't meet a
variety of standards that are required. That's the key for
us is making sure the standards stay high. I mean,
I think one of the things I'll be interested to
see and this is a positive, but hassenant issues as
well as with the residency cause I SUS speak.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
We're going to get a lot.

Speaker 8 (48:53):
Of people which have English as a second language. Now
that that's great in some ways that you're getting diversity
and they'll be different place of policing which will reflect
what New Zealand's becoming as well. So that's good, but
it does make life hard for them as an officer
and there needs a lot more support around them, especially
in the early stages.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Do we not have a language standard because surely there
should be a language standard. I mean, if you've got
somebody taking down notes about what's happening and quoting you back,
there's some nuance in the language that's really important, isn't that.

Speaker 13 (49:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (49:23):
No, And there's certainly the language standard. But I mean
it's just the fact that life, when it's your second language,
it presents more challenges and as I say, that can
be positive, but it doesn't mean there needs to be
more support around them, especially when it's how you know,
the comprehension of what someone might say and what they
mean can be different, and it's just making sure that
those nuances are worked through. It's not a bad thing.

(49:45):
It just means there needs to be a plenty of
supporter around those officers that apply. But look, we can't
get away from those sort of figures. They're quite startling
figures and as I say, we do need to see
that conversion rate.

Speaker 6 (49:58):
But it's positive.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Chris, good to talk to you. Thank you very much. Mate,
really appreciated that. As Chris car Hill of the Police Association,
Heather not what about the beers. I'm sure you're not
going to be able to buy alcohol from Auckland Grammar's fields.
That's a source of revenue, a massive one for all events. Well,
I read the press release it said Captain Beer is
still floating around. I feel like Captain Beer is the

(50:20):
beer mascot, probably an indication there will be beers there.
What do you think sounds I think you'll be It
sounds like you're gonna be okay if you need the
beers there and then you go down the giant slide
with the kids. Listen, Okay, here we go. This is
what's gone on the credit card spending list. Okay, Prime
Minister Christopher Luxen spent about nine hundred and sixty four dollars.
Don't under sixty three dollars and fifty cents. I don't

(50:41):
want to misquote the man on money because you know
he's in trouble with that already in the news this week.
So nine hundred and sixty three dollars and fifty cents
was what was on his credit card for three months.

Speaker 15 (50:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
The biggest, biggest item a harmonica, definitely the most expensive
and also the weirdest thing that he bought. It's a
super chro monica hundred and ninety nine dollars from the
rock Shop in Albany this week in Auckland, I feel
like you can buy a guitar for that price, So
I feel like that's an expensive harmonica he order for
this guy, Setavini rambooka a Fiji. So it's actually quite

(51:14):
a thoughtful present because Sitavini turns out likes to record
social media videos of how he plays harmonica after a
long day in cabinet.

Speaker 6 (51:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
I don't know about you, but most of us, after
we've dealt with our colleagues, like to go and punch
a bag, maybe run all our fears away and our
anger and just plays Christopher Luxen's lovely harmonica.

Speaker 17 (51:39):
You know, red Book has got a lot in common
with another popular leader of the past.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Is he also liked the harmonica?

Speaker 16 (51:48):
No, no, no, he played the accordion.

Speaker 17 (51:50):
This is him back in ninety seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Imagine having to work with these guys. They like, you're
just halfway through a cabinet pay then this stuff starts
up in the office next door.

Speaker 15 (52:03):
Lord.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Okay, So it just makes our politicians seem a lot
more bearable, doesn't it. Sixteen Away from.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Eight, the My Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News Talks at be Hey.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I've got a little bit of clearing up after myself
to do. Yesterday I said that jd Vance had kind
of creepy eyes, you know, like that there was kind
of and I couldn't quite explain it properly. But don't
worry because the Guardian just did an entire piece on this,
So I'm just backing myself up with this. The headline
is jd Vance is trying hard not to be weird
and it's making him seem more menacing still. And what
they nail it down to is that you can you

(52:37):
know that he's got some pretty like out their views.
I'm not dissing his views. I'm just saying that they're
out there. They're just a little bit more to the
right than the vast majority of us. But what he
was doing was he was trying to have a calm face,
and the whole thing was just a little weird, do
you know what I mean. It was like it was

(52:57):
like when you talk to somebody who's clearly a very
angy person. I'm not saying he is, but when you're
trying to talk to somebody who's a very angry person,
you could see they're trying to control themselves. It's quite unnerving. Yeah,
it was just there was a lot going on behind
the eyes anyway. That's just me one hundred percent saying.
Lots of stuff come out comes out of my mouth
and you go, what's going on there? But there's always
backed up with something. I just need to go find

(53:18):
the column that backs it up. It took me a
little while, isn't it. Twelve away from at.

Speaker 16 (53:22):
And after you said that about Tim Waltz's eyes as well,
I went back and looked.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
At it and you saw all of the men and.

Speaker 17 (53:27):
I thought, what are you talking about? And then every
now and again they'd go on full beam, wouldn't they.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
He does have eyes like.

Speaker 16 (53:36):
You've got on coming drift.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Make them offful. This is totally this is totally him.
It's just unexpectedly he goes full beam. Okay, here go.
Credit card spending David seem more well done. He's one
of the lowest spenders, only seventy five bucks on his
work credit card for three months. Seventy five bucks compared
to hold On old On.

Speaker 16 (53:53):
So does that mean just twenty five backs a month?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Twenty five bucks a month in contrast to old big
spender Judith Collins at ten thousand dollars, so just to
show how much restraint he which she's got a lot
of portfolios and she had an overseas trip. But he
is trying to be the low spending guy and it's
working and well done on that one. Winnie p spent
seventy nine dollars on getting his Twitter account verified. You know,

(54:19):
anybody who gets sucked in by Elon Musk's scheme, it's
not a good thing. And that's the vanity of that situation. However,
I'm going to give him some credit because he went out.
He went out to a New York restaurant with three
others and the four of them put on their credit
card only four drinks, two Goose Islence and two Stellar Drafts.
And I was well impressed with the level of restraint
going on there. From Winnie Nikola Willis, the Finance Minister

(54:41):
spent six hundred dollars on an Economists subscription. But I
thought that's okay because you are actually supposed to be
running the finances, so there's probably okay. Shane Retti also
bought some magazines, so didn't He bought two copies of
the same North and South magazine for twenty one dollars
sixty three. The reason he bought two was because he
was in them, so he bought one for him and
one for his, which is how you should. You should

(55:01):
always do that if you're amazing that.

Speaker 16 (55:03):
He gets really bad if you.

Speaker 17 (55:04):
Then he also find out that he also spent money
on frames for the covers of them.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Is that bad? If you've been in a North and
South and you're on the cover, don't you what it's
like New Zealand's version of time, isn't it?

Speaker 12 (55:18):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (55:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Casey Costello made a trip to London. She bought four
toasties in four days. And that is an honorable mention
of a toasty, because a toasty, I'll tell you what
toasties are underrated and so God on her. At least
she's getting that bit right. And finally, Chris Bishop three
times in three days March ten, March eleven, and March twelve,
he goes to McDonald's, doesn't He with his staff member

(55:40):
goes to McDonald's and has whatever that they're having at McDonald's.
His office was asked about this in the office said,
the minister takes seriously his responsibility to be a prudent
guardian of taxpayer money. He also really likes fast food
and his waistliner is proof of that. And I think
if you're a connoisseur of fast food, I want to
know from Chris Bishop, what is it that you're eating
that you're loving so much? Away from eight.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
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the Jaguar f Base News talks EDBH.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Hither I think Jeffrey Palmer played the trumpet he did,
which is why he was only there for four weeks
and then had to be gone because of the noise.
Six Away from eight Now Auckland's final round Robin Round
Robin NBC clash is going to look a little different
this week because it's good bye Eden Park Hallo Auckland
Grammar's number one field just the latest provincial side to
say see you to the empty stadia and take the
game back to the grassroots and Auckland Rugby CEO Jared

(56:30):
bears with me.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Now, hey Jared, morning, Heather, What a great morning in
Auckland this morning. The sun's out, blue sky is great.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
It is actually looking good after the last few days
of bad weather. So is it looking good?

Speaker 6 (56:40):
For the weekend then yeah, well it's Auckland, so the
sun will always appear during the day at some point.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
All right, what's been the reaction to going to the
number one field at a year? People loving it?

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Oh, it's great feedback. It's an opportunity for us to
get out to different corners with an Auckland and Auckland
Grahamer's got a fantastic connection to the game of rugby,
both with what they do participation opportunities, but also the
number of all Blacks and Aukroen players that they produced
over the year over the years, and this time around
we're playing by Plenty, which is for the Bay of
Plenty John Drake Boots, which has played between the two teams,

(57:15):
and John Drake was also a pupil at Aucklanmngremma, so
there's a nice king engineer as well.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Jared, how do the broadcasters feel about it? Because I
imagine it makes their job just a weave it harder
because they haven't got the broadcasting infrastructure there.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
Well, that actually gets thrown onto us to make sure
that we come up with infrastructure. So Sky's been really
supportive of us going to alternative venues. There's some incremental costs,
so it's not a plug and play that we enjoyed
Eden Park, But this time around, the cards have all
lined up and it's just going to be a great
experience that we can put on and the broadcasters are
on board. But at the event itself, it's going to

(57:49):
be a bit of a festival day. We've got a
garden bar which we'll have a DJ, we've got a
massive kids activation zone, We've got a wisty pie played
in competition, so there's going to be plenty on you
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
I'm getting a text saying Captain's Beer is an actual
beer brand. But I read your press releases if Captain
Beer was floating around like some sort of mascot, what
is it?

Speaker 6 (58:09):
No, it's a beer brand, so they're they're sponsoring the
garden bar.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
That So you're telling me Captain's Beer is floating around?

Speaker 6 (58:17):
Yes, yes, correct?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Okay, Well I'm glad you explained that Jared best of
luck with It is Jared Bear Auckland Rugby CEO.

Speaker 16 (58:23):
So it's beer bar. Just to avoid any confusion.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, that's Bear. So it's Jared Bear and it's mascot.
The beer is not a mascot. The beer is thank
God for this person. Captain's Beer is a new beer
brand owned by Jordan, Jordie and Bowden Barrett and it's
the new sponsor of Auckland Rugby. And then Sam said
to me in my ear that he can't find any
proof of that, but I can't. Can't you find proof

(58:48):
of that Captain's Beer exists? Oh, we don't know that
the Barrett's own it. We don't know that the Barrett's
own it, but we know it exists.

Speaker 17 (58:56):
Given our conversation earlier in the week about Boden Barrett
and with the peace will like him or not, it
could be a beer that leaves a nasty taste in
half the population's mouth that.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
I feel like he would be doing himself a lot
of favors if he started to be a brand, because
that's one thing most of us can agree on, us
a good time on to be a brand. All right, Listen,
after the news coming up very shortly, we're gonna have
a chat to Tim Wilson and Carrie Woodham, gonna wrap
the week that was for us and plenty to get
through still and this is my and don't forget my
last hour in this job, and then I can go

(59:27):
back to sleeping like a normal person.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Mike's back soon, your trusted source for news and views.
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Speaker 3 (59:44):
You beid a.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
Name for a plane.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
It wasn't free to be, to be exactly if she
are to be, she's sirr and curlerservers couldn't see.

Speaker 15 (59:58):
Youpid a name for a and it pretend to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
This is Jupiter, like cold Play off an album that
has only just dropped, like literally just dropped out hot
off the press. It's called Moon Music, It's called Jupiter.
They all named after me, stuff your planets, No they're not.
It feels like quite a change from the last note,
because you remember the last lot of songs that put

(01:00:22):
out a little bit dancy and like, you know, big
festival vibes and stuff. But Glenn assures me that this
is upbeat and and there are plenty of songs on
here that don't sound like this, souse. The only reason
I'm interested, obviously, is because I'm gonna I'm making plans
to go to the concert. And I don't want to
have to listen to acoustic music the whole time. Do

(01:00:43):
you carry what we can review with two degrees?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Fighting for fear for Kiwi business there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
It is not Carrie Kerry. What You've been around for
a very long time, and you were turning the wrong
microphone on the whole time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Was and I was waiting until you had finished.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Talking, but you were pressing that button. That's your button
over there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
Well, I'm never in the studio. I feel like the
dog on the couch every time I come in here.
I'm I'm in the This is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Like an F one driver complaining about having to drive
it like a twiosha.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
I'm normally with you're sitting and I am so so
grateful you've been in that seat this week.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Can I that's very kind of you just say, has
been lovely to see your face.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I'm not normally a guest starting. I'm normally in charge. Happy.

Speaker 15 (01:01:29):
But the risk of making all the sound thanks, thanks, oh,
thank you so much, thank you. At at the risk
of making this sound far too agreeable for the Friday
morning wrap up, You've done a great job here that
I was laughing out loud in the car as I
was listening to you saying how anyone who drives an
electric vehicle has been emasculated by their maiden aunt. Many

(01:01:49):
people might.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Agree with that as you drove your electric vehicle.

Speaker 15 (01:01:54):
I couldn't possibly comment because because I'm a male, But
as a female you can say that. No, no, I
agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Oh, thank you?

Speaker 15 (01:02:00):
Hey?

Speaker 18 (01:02:00):
How was so?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Did you decide? Okay, did you decide for your birthday
to climb the pinnacles? Was that you treat.

Speaker 15 (01:02:08):
Not self selected? No? We went up with a bunch
of families, some adults and about twenty five kids. We
walked up the pinnacles. You feel your glutes on the
way up and your quad's on the way down. But
I highly recommend it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
And the kids handle it okay.

Speaker 15 (01:02:23):
They loved it. They were bounding ahead and gambling like gazelle.
So what was lovely? On the morning of my birthday?
At six am, my son Roman started singing Happy Birthday,
and all of these kids, twenty five kids joined in,
and so they were all singing in this We had
occupied one one area of a heart, but they all
started singing. And then someone said how old are you?

(01:02:46):
And I said fifty nine. So they went clap one, two, three,
fifty nine claps.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
How gloriously wholesome. See, I love hearing stories like this.
We hear about bad kids all the time. There are
so many goods, there are.

Speaker 15 (01:03:00):
So many, so many good gets us, so many good carrots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
And I had I'll tell you what I had. Carry
This would have happened to you a long time ago,
because your daughter is old enough to be having children
of her own and have had.

Speaker 16 (01:03:10):
But I had.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
My birthday was last month, the first year where my
son sang Happy Birthday to me. Oh, that was the best.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
Game I've still got. Because I'm cleaning things up because
I've just had the kitchen remodeled, and I've found all
of these boxes of stuff that I didn't know what
to do with, and found all the love letters from
when they're little, oh, that have been in the drawer,
and then the special as.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Much Carrie when they are closing in on forty and redheaded,
and yeah, she just doesn't say it. She still feels
the same.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
It's just wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Keep all the love letters and the love right, Tim,
did you see what the MP's are put on their
credit cards?

Speaker 15 (01:03:44):
I was, I was, I mean, you know, I'm a
stinge and I was so impressed by David Seymour three
months and what is it? Seventy nine bucks?

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
It doesn't surprise me, no, no, but he was not
a profligate wastrel.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
And put a coffee on. Surely could put coffee on
your own credit, can't? Can't you?

Speaker 15 (01:04:02):
Well there is the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
Receipts?

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Well where are they exactly? Because he should be on
this list. You are a very good question. Yeah, we'll
start a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
That's what I was looking for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
What about Chris Bishop? Though Harry going to McDonald's three
times in three days? I feel like there's an intervention
needed here.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Well, you know, I don't want to be food judge
and you've got to eat on the go. I mean
perhaps mixing it up with a subway would be quite good.
That's healthy choice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Did you I don't know if you did?

Speaker 15 (01:04:32):
You stuff for healthy? What about KFC? Where's the KFC receipt?

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
I had KFC until my very good friendly is who's
a brilliant chef recreated KFC? It was amazing, sort of
did it like fancy Stars?

Speaker 15 (01:04:48):
You still haven't had KFC if you haven't sat in
the drive through for forty minutes. You haven't had KFC
in your whole life.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
I had this point, I had two mouthfuls of a
double down when all those fighters epidemic people said they
were dangerous.

Speaker 6 (01:05:02):
So I do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
They say they're dangerous? So you're like, I better put
that in my mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Well, it's just what a stupid thing to say. Yeah,
you know, it's a dumb thing to say.

Speaker 21 (01:05:11):
So I put.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
I had two mouthfuls just to prove they were wrong.
And here I am. You're still a like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Do you know what though, Tim, none of the stuff
like comes anywhere close to what Debbie's been doing with
her flying. I want to know where Debbie has been going.
She managed to rack up thirty nine thousand bucks in
three months.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
It's always the and who.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
It's always those guys who are like, no oil and gas,
hold on, I need the gas for my plane trip
except for me.

Speaker 9 (01:05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Here, see this is why I liked your parenting, Tim,
because there were climbing the pinnacles with the kids. You
didn't say to the kids, bugger off and climb the
pinnacles while I lie in bed and have asleep. And
for my birthday. It's leading by example and That's what
annoys me a bit about people who lecture me. I
want to see them do it before I That's why
I loved the Janet fit Simon's School of Green MP.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Yeah, but she actually did put her purpose in the garden.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
She did pay a supporter.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yeah, if you want the people to poke in the
garden doing yourself. Speaking of lecturing, I want to talk
about Chris Luckson Sole, you's deal with him. Next thirteen past.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Kerry Woodham and Tim Wilson with me. Okay, Tim, this
business about Chris Luckson selling his apartment and then making
one hundred and eighty thousand bucks off it, and then
apparently dodging text. The whole thing just feels to me
like the guy can't copper break because he's wealthy.

Speaker 15 (01:06:36):
Is that so what you think?

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:06:38):
The inference is that he passed passed amendments to bright
Line legislation to save himself seventy k of text, which
anyone who's tried anyone who's tried to sell a house.
You don't know when you're going to sell the house,
you don't know if you're going to sell it, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. What's interesting to me in terms
of his leadership style is, remember he paid back that
accommodation supplement when he was early in the job. It's like, oh,

(01:07:00):
you shouldn't be getting this, dah dah da.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
That might have beens on my fault.

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
It may remember when you guys, Remember when you guys
slapped them around the chops about the accommodation. But this time,
this time his officers said, oh, it's a private matter,
shut up, go away. I think he's become a bit
more confident as a leader in this kind of area.

Speaker 13 (01:07:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
I have no problem with people being wealthy at all
when they have created something that people want to buy,
when they have worked incredibly hard and been chosen as
the best in their field globally, and they've been remunerated accordingly. Look,
I know a few wealthy people who have been wealthy
because they had a great idea. I know people who
are wealthy because they inherited it and built on it.

(01:07:43):
The people I despise the most are the ones who
want to be wealthy and who aren't, and who just
have these trappings because they think it matters, like the
Devaul group people. Oh yeah, you know, the ones who
commission their own reality TV show about themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Do you want to know something about them?

Speaker 10 (01:07:59):
That's sick?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
And me to my call?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Do you know that my dad and Kenyan Clark's mum
were lovers for a very we're talking about your dad
like that, isn't it like they were lovers? They lived
together for a very very long time in Cambridge.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
And was she a nice woman who values Well I
can't speak to that. Well, what happened to him?

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
What the son that's.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Clearly needed your dad's influence?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Well, I don't know. Look at how I turned out.
That's half the reason you're not a big note like that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
Yes, But to lease a flesh car because all you
can afford is a Toyota Corolla or something, so you
lease a Ferrari and you have taken by other people's jets?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Was that the jemy whose gem was that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
Itsus?

Speaker 15 (01:08:45):
It's this misapprehension, it's this idea that the more money
you have, the happy you are in fact, there's a
Princeton survey that says you earn more than what is it,
seventy five k us you're actually a year you're actually no,
you're actually only tiny bit happier. Yeah, it's welless like,
I've met some lovely farmers and the shorts and the

(01:09:05):
boots and the covered and dust and driving a dungery
old Toyota and they could buy and sell.

Speaker 5 (01:09:12):
Knobs like that. And if you make something that makes
you a lot of money and generate something and you know,
make music, you'd be as rich as you like. But
please don't pretend, because it's utterly pathetic.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
And the REMI can you hear that?

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Is?

Speaker 15 (01:09:29):
That?

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Uton? Can I blame you for that?

Speaker 15 (01:09:31):
What there was?

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Oh no, don't worry. We could hear some interference.

Speaker 15 (01:09:34):
Oh wait, that might have I did. I did extend
my leg at maybe one of my knees cracking after
the good staff and.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
At your age.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
It was the back room start.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
It was Sam's put his hand up, He's going to
own this. Hey, Carrie, I know you wanted to actually
talk about this fab today this week the christ Church
where the christ Church is the coolest place in the country,
would you.

Speaker 15 (01:09:53):
Agree with that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
I didn't talk about that. That was not the one
I raised.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Well, no, no, I know, but I know that you
wanted to talk about this this week, right, And it's
a very long wounded way of me. Yet never mind
all aside, carry put it all aside. Is christ it's
the coolest place in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Well, see, I'm finding cool places everywhere I go. It
is a very cool place to visit. I was just
down there last week. But then I was in Gisbane
and I just saw the retailers have given of Gisbone. Yeah,
have given it a big kicking. I absolutely loved it.
When I went down there, fell completely in life.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
We're there for a festival or something like that. We're
just there on it, like the reg year old weekend Dangrisbone.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Yeah, like never written Emma Freeman. They went down about
a month ago, comsoletely in love with Grisbone.

Speaker 10 (01:10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I went down a month later for the Citrus Growers conference.
Like it'sn't the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Weather, it's the weather.

Speaker 15 (01:10:42):
I'm going to love of grenade here grenade. Yeah, the
pinnacles on the cooler where Thames Thames. The hospice shop
there is second to none. Absolutely brilliant. There was a
pear cut on shirt there for eight bucks that I
couldn't get because it was too big. Plus the macas
is excellent because you go there, you've been up the pinnacles.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Yes, actually yeah, I mean these are my measurements.

Speaker 15 (01:11:04):
I don't care about. I don't care about clubs, parties,
DJs or anything like that. Just give me the shops
and give me the mask.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
You know what I think has happened here, Carrier, is
that he came down from the pinnacles. He still had
that in Dalkin's high. Do you know when you get
some exercise and just feel great about life, it's basically
like clubbing. And then he was like ten's greatest place
in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
I don't think I've ever used those words in a sentence. No, what,
Oh it's too big for me.

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
I couldn't wear it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
It was too bad for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
We're gonna have to go, guys. It was great to chat.
Do you, thank you so much and have a lovely weekend.
That's Kerry would have been eight twenty one.

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Speaker 15 (01:12:28):
Heather duple Sellen Gisbon is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
A great place to good you know what, I reckon
best place in the country ever had to think about it.
But you got to do it seasonally right, because not
some places are great in one season and not great
in another season, Like who wants to go to the
beach in the winter? Do you know what I mean?
Greatest place in this country in winter has got to
be Queen's Town because it's dry and it's crisp, and
it's beautiful and you can see the snow, the cozy

(01:12:51):
little bars, like it's made for the season, cozy little
bars you can go to. If you're really, really, really rich,
you can go down to Millbrook. No, not that rich,
but you know what I mean, like you can go
and just have a fantastic time in winter and then summer, well,
we don't have a shortage of places around here, do we?
In summer we'd have a great place everywhere. Here's something
interesting that has kind of been I've been noticing it,

(01:13:15):
and I think that this guy's onto something. This is
Chris Schultz, who's a long time music journalist. He's written
a piece on his blog about how expensive concert tickets
are at the moment, but basically so pricey. He says
they're only for the rich. And he makes the point
that back in nineteen ninety five when he was a kid,
he was still at school, I think or like doing
part time jobs or something. He and three friends wanted
to go see Pearl Jam, and back then they would
have been the biggest band in the world all thereabouts.

(01:13:38):
They were playing at Mount Spartan Auckland, and he lived
in Wangananui. So he and his three mates scraped together
enough money and they bought the tickets and they caught
the train up and the tickets were fifty bucks each
at the time, which works out at one hundred bucks
in today's money, which is affordable.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
If you want to go see the biggest band in
the world for one hundred bucks, you and I would
do it right. But now you want to go see
Billie Eilish, tickets are over two hundred bucks. Pool Jam
this year no longer the biggest band in the world.
You're paying about two hundred and ten for general admissions,
double the price. Oasis standing tickets were eight hundred and
fifty dollars and this band, Coldplay five point fifty to go.

(01:14:13):
If you still want tickets at n part, you've got
news TOGCB.

Speaker 15 (01:14:22):
You've got.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. Here
the Defcy Ellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the
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Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Hey, I know I go on about the public servants
in this country. You think we've got I'm going to
give them a bit a couple of a bit of slack.
You think we've got a problem with the public servants
here not wanting to leave the comfort of their own
homes during working hours. Just do the working from home.
You think it's bad here, get a load of what's
going on over in the UK. These guys in the
UK are threatening to strike if they have to go
back to the office. Are they're promising they're going to

(01:15:01):
escalate this and they're gonna involve in all out strike
And they're using all the kinds of you're not like
fighting talk, the business fighting talk, because basically, what's happened
and this is only it sounds like it only it
only relates to members of the Public and Commercial Services Union.
They have been told to go back to the office
since May. They've just been like nh, not gonna go,
not not going.

Speaker 11 (01:15:22):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
That's six months of refusing to go back to the office.
Imagine that. Imagine being the boss of somebody like this.
You're like, can you please come into the office. Nat
I'm gonna do it from home. I don't want to
fire them on the spot. You think they had been
told some sort of unreasonable edict. No, they have only
been told to go back to the office two days

(01:15:43):
a week, not even half the week. Two days a week,
and they have a problem with that, I mean, honestly.
So anyway, our public servants kind of annoying, but not
that annoying, are they?

Speaker 13 (01:15:52):
Hither?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I have a background in music. I've started boycotting going
to concerts.

Speaker 15 (01:15:56):
Growing up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
For me, a general admission ticket was around fifty bucks.
Minimum wage was about ten bucks, so it would cost
you about five hours of work to go. Now a
general admission ticket seems to be about two hundred and
fifty dollars average, and minimum wage is twenty three dollars
an hour, so you do the mats. You have to
work over ten hours to get a ticket. Now, it's
getting ridiculous. If this, especially if this is your jam,
isn't it like if the thing that you like to

(01:16:18):
do with your spare time is head over to a
concert and bop your head in the mosh pit or whatever,
it becomes a very it's becoming like golf and skiing,
isn't it, And maybe a quick equestrian sports something that
you probably don't want to get into. Certainly dissuade your
children from picking up a guitar. Twenty one away from.

Speaker 18 (01:16:35):
Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Murray oldsy Correspondence.

Speaker 15 (01:16:43):
Now, Hey Mass, very good morning, Heather mus Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
News just coming out of Australia right now. The rally
that was off and then on is now scrapped again.

Speaker 13 (01:16:52):
Well that's news to me because police have got a
news conference scheduled here in Sydney this morning of business
last night. The rally was going ahead on Saturday. On Sunday,
I big your part, and then a candle at vigil
on the Monday evening was planned for Sydney's Town Hall

(01:17:13):
in the heart of the city on George Street. So
if that is new, you've actually surprised me because I'm
in here in the newsroom this morning and I've yet
to see any information from the Palestine Action Group. This
is the group that's been out there every single weekend,
every Sunday for the last fifty one weeks. And the
police went to the Supreme Court yesterday it was a

(01:17:36):
two o'clock start here in Sydney. By five o'clock both
sides had reached a compromise that yes, big rally would
go ahead. Police were worried, of course, about policing this
rally because tempers can get pretty frayed. Flags are being
waived and people are charting and whatnot, so police were
a bit anxious. The compromise involved the march not going

(01:18:00):
anywhere near the Grand Synagogue here in town, which is
probably you know, hello, hello, how smart?

Speaker 12 (01:18:06):
I mean?

Speaker 13 (01:18:06):
Please? Anyway, If that's the case, mate, that's news to me,
and I get off the phone on going fell them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Must I tell you what's gone on here? It's actually
the same thing. It's just a different interpretation of it.
So it's going ahead, you understand. It's going ahead as
a vigil which is what the compromise is. And it's
being reported that the rally part has been scrapped, So
both of them are true. It's still going ahead, rally scrapped,
vigils on therefore different but as you say, different route
as well. So is that the compromise is that, mate?

Speaker 13 (01:18:33):
That's my understanding. Yeah, they look police said, we don't
want either thing to go ahead. The Paliside Action Group said, well,
bugger that, we're going to go ahead anyway with the police,
you know, whatever the Supreme Gourd has to say, the
rally will go ahead. And they had, well, it depends
on you talked to last weekend. I reckon they had
thirty thousand people. Thirty thousand people. It's like the anti

(01:18:54):
Vietnam marches of fifty years ago. It's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
But the thing is that what upset them last weekend
was a whole bunch of people out there with Hezbola flags. Right,
so it's a terrorist organization's flags. Now you might have
perfectly reasonable people sitting down and saying, okay, we're going
to do this properly, we're going to have a vigil,
we're going to walk this way stuff, But can you
really stop the kind of extreme elements turning up. They
may well just turn.

Speaker 13 (01:19:14):
Up, well indeed they might and you know, to their
to be fair to the organizers, the Palestine Action Group
organizes the leadership of this group, they said, listen, we
tell everybody you can't bring flags. Waving these flags is outlawed.
In fact, the New South Wales Heather waving these flag
is the equivalent of waving a Nazi flag that's been outlawed.

(01:19:36):
I mean, the Nazi word was invoked this week, just
gone because two years ago the new South Wales government
past law you can't wear Nazi insignia, you can't wear
Nazi uniforms, you can't do Nazi salutes and so on
in public. That's how abhorrent that is. Well, the push
this week was to class flags representing Hezbollah and Hamas

(01:19:58):
in the same way. Where that's got to in Parliament House.
I'm not sure where the government is at with that.
But look, it's a very very mobile, such a fluid
situation here, lots of moving parts, fingers crossed. The weekend
goes ahead without any massive confrontations. At the same time,
of course, lots and lots of concern for people in Lebanon.

(01:20:21):
There are about fifteen thousand Australians we understand in Lebanon.
The government's got six hundred seats on flights seventeen hundred people.
As I say closed the business last night, there was
seventeen hundred Ozzies who were very very keen to get
the heck out of Lebanon and get home. So we'll
have to make checks on that this morning too. But
six hundred seats is what they didn't have yes this

(01:20:42):
time yesterday. So that's a couple of planeloads of Australians
getting out of there. Mars.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
You're going to sit down to watch the Grand Final?
Oh you're kidding, of course, are you backing?

Speaker 15 (01:20:52):
Well, look a.

Speaker 13 (01:20:53):
Lot of people are saying Penrith because it's the start
of a dynasty. This hasn't happened since Saint George won
eleven straight, going back many many decades now. But I
was the same wng on Pendris had three in a row.
It's time for someone else. And look, I think there's
a cigarette paper between the two sides. Clearly they're the
best two teams all year. The Jerome Hughes I sat

(01:21:14):
down after he won them. They had a really terrific
montage of this young fellow went for about four minutes.
The Hughes season. My god, that guy is a magician.
He's fantastic. But then you look at young Cleary behind
the Penrith pack, big monstrous pack that I've got, and
look it's two very very even sides. I honestly got

(01:21:35):
I know who's going to win. And if the storm
get up, I'll be reasonably happy, even though they're from Melbourne.
And if Pendrith get up, we'll get on them because
they've got a wonderful coach, they got a terrific halfback
with a great team around them. So I really think
it's going to be a fantastic game on Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Yeah, that's the kind of game you want one. You
don't know how it's going to go. Maz enjoy it
very much and good to talk to you. Made enjoy it,
ran you Jos Olds Ozzie correspondent. Government's just announced they're
going to pump two hundred and twenty six million dollars
into as a package are setting aside for strengthening resilience
with critical road improvement projects. That the point is really
to try to get the roads to be able to
withstand severe weather events. Good day to be announcing it, obviously,

(01:22:15):
given what to need in is experiencing at the moment.
So two hundred and twenty six million dollars. The vast
majority obviously goes to Auckland, given it's the biggest place
to about twenty four million dollars. Gisbin gets a fair
share because of what it's been through forty million dollars.
Northland gets seventeen million dollars, does need it. Wycutt will
also badly hit, you know, with all because why Cuttle
covers the what's it called comand corimandal area and that's

(01:22:38):
thirty one million dollars for them. So yeah, as I say,
good day to be announcing it, because we all just
want to see those roll roads hold up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Quarter two the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Twelve away from nine. I tell you what polling out
of the states I think is fascinating for just which
are the four of them? This is the four running
on the presidential ticket and the vice presidential ticket. Which
are the four of them? Is the most popular? Doesn't
actually surprise me to find out it's Tim Waltz, and
like by quite a margin. So of all four, people
like Tim Waltz the most, so he beats so Tim Waltz.

(01:23:16):
Is What they do is they do the neat approval ratings.
That's basically how many people like you minus how many
people don't like you, right, and it's in the positive.
More people like you than don't like you, and it's
in the negative. If more people dislike you, that's not
that unusual in politics. So it's not that, you know,
bigger deal, but this is what's going on. Okay. So

(01:23:37):
jd Vance's approval ratings come in, he's the least popular.
He comes in at negative eleven. It's the eyes. Trump
comes in at negative ten, so he's only marginally more
popular than jd Vance. Carmela comes in at plus one,
which is probably all the hype around her, and then
Tim Waltz comes in at plus four. That's quite as significant. Like,

(01:24:00):
that's a fifteen point lead on jd Vance right there,
that's not bad. And that's a fourteen point lead on
Donald Trump and a three point lead on Karmala Watts
now Kamala Harris. Now, who knows what. I wonder what
effect the debate has had on it. Maybe not that much,
maybe a little bit, just because he's been busted lying
about his past again where he said he was in
Hong Kong for the Tianeman Square massacre and he wasn't

(01:24:24):
because he was in Nebraska. And it's not the first
time he's told FIBs about what he was doing and
back in the day. But the thing that's going and
I tell you what, I'll tell you what's going from me.
He's got a friendly face. And this is the thing, right,
This is why they teach people when you go and
do media interviews, smile, smile because then people like you more.
You don't need the old bitchy resting face, which is
what I mean Trump. I want to say Trump's got

(01:24:45):
a bitchy resting face. He doesn't need, just has a
comical resting face. But anyway, this is what is going
in favor of Tim Watson, probably explains why he's got
a slight popularity thing going on here. The first time
going to a concert coming to Auckland in January. Get
a load of this Tickets, flights, accommodation for just one
night for Jamie and his wife and his two kids.

(01:25:08):
Four thousand dollars just to go to a concert.

Speaker 15 (01:25:12):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
It's an expensive sport nine away from nine either dup.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Sealent von the my costing breakfast with a Vida retirement
Communities News Tog said.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Besh I didn't want to have to leave this thing
on a sour political note. But what about this, Heather,
I'm an American citizen. I'd rather have just cinder over
KRMLA any day of the week. Karmela is a vacuum
of personality and intelligence. That's a burn, isn't it. Hey
Listen earlier on right, I was talking about how I
didn't know that the Auckland Auckland in NPC squad was

(01:25:42):
named the Gulls. Variously I've seen them called the Seagulls,
which suggests to me, not everybody knows what then. I
don't even know if it's actually called the Seagulls or
the goals. I don't know. I don't know. I didn't
know anything about this until maybe four hours ago anyway,
So then I was like, well, what are the rest
of them called? And I reckon, I reckon you not
be able to name them? So everybody knows the Wellington Lions, right,

(01:26:04):
the Lions are in Wellington, or maybe I just know
that because I lived there for a very long time.
Everybody knows the Mucor are in Tasman, and that's because
Michael is such a weird name. You often think you know,
what's that and then you remember, oh, yeah, that's anyway.
Magpies are in Hawks Bay, and you know that because
they keep on doing bad things like dropping things, don't
they They like drop a trophy and stuff like that.
Then they're all over the news and things, and so

(01:26:24):
you know that that's what they're called. The Steelers are
in counties Manecou, and I know that because I come
from counties Manicou. But I think that's the only reason
that I know that. The MoU Looser and wy Cato
and you know that because that's that's an unusual name.
But Glenn, who prides himself and knowing a lot of
things about a lot of things. Do you know what
the Otago squad is called? M No, the razorbacks? What

(01:26:53):
the razorbacks?

Speaker 13 (01:26:55):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
What is a razorback?

Speaker 16 (01:26:57):
It's a pig, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I thought it was a dog? What's the Bay of
Plenty squad called the Steamers?

Speaker 21 (01:27:05):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:27:06):
Yes, I knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Where are the turbos from?

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Okay? Where are the tunny far from?

Speaker 16 (01:27:11):
Northland?

Speaker 9 (01:27:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
And the Stags? You got to know that, Kenary, No, No,
he's sitting next to you. Look, he's look at looking
at you with those eyes.

Speaker 16 (01:27:20):
O Southland, Yeah, Southland. Sorry, once you start fly there,
I forget about them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
Yeah, no too, right, Yeah, Sam from Southland and then
the Taranak team are called what see look at this
with something going wrong here with us? This is our
national sports bulls. Yeah, well done. But what is the
Canterbury team called? What is the Canterbury tem called? Not
the Rams, the Canterbre team, That's what they're called. They
called the Canterbre team. They don't have no North Harbor

(01:27:47):
as well, they're called the North Harbor Sea Seat. Look,
I just feel like we when you have the people
who live and breathe rugby in this country unable to
name your squads, you need to ditch the competition or
do better. We'll get better names. Maybe some names for
a couple of them that don't have names would be
a good place to start. Four Away from.

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Speaker 15 (01:28:19):
You know who this is, don't you?

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
May as a banger? Isn't it as good? Mariah Carey
synonymous with Christmas? She says, now get a load of this.
She says it's too early to be playing her music
right now. She says October is not for Christmas songs
and we have the wait for Christmas to listen to
her songs. I totally think you can listen to the
song any day of the year if you want to.
So when you leave, avoid another diva steps in and

(01:28:43):
we have Kelly clarkson her new song You for Christmas
feel Us too, the same vibe, so I'm into it already. Hey,
thank you very much for having me with you this week.
Thanks for tuning in. Mike is back with you next
week and he's welcome to it. Two thirty Alarm is
just not up to leted them all already, so I'm

(01:29:04):
going to go. I need a week to recover, so
I'll see you very soon. You enjoy your weekend News Talks.

Speaker 14 (01:29:09):
Every Marry Christmas, everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
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